Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the first episode
of the Alien Earth Review.
Speaker 2: We gotta get our names up there. I forgot. We
haven't even recovered from the GM day.
Speaker 1: I am catin hook at Trasnail and I'm I'm just
trusted now.
Speaker 2: Get Yeah, I'm rusty.
Speaker 3: Ever done that before?
Speaker 2: I'm rusty new decade. I've lost it already, you know.
Speaker 4: But I'm joined by I'm the ball boy crick compouncer
in the SMI Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: Yes, ladies and gimen, we are here to talk about
Alien Earth. We'll be reviewing all the episodes, some combination
of us, because honestly, the end of summer can always
get a little bit busy, but some combination of us.
I'll hopefully always us three. But things happen because we
got this happening. We got Dexter.
Speaker 2: Still going, Me and Taylor got jen V soon we
got Peacemaker.
Speaker 1: That's why when this starts happening to two shows, you'll
you'll this is where, yeah, a bit more common of
two people on a review. Because Taylor, I'm gonna say
this background you chose for us is awful.
Speaker 2: For the audio listeners.
Speaker 1: He chose like the Alien after Earth logo, but it's
in the middle and we block it all so it's
just a black screen.
Speaker 5: See everyone coming in.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's gonna be alien cock, but yeah, we'll be
doing that if you like what we do here. We
have reviewed every single thing of Alien known to men,
other than the com books, which we're gonna try and
do some in November.
Speaker 2: Forgot the time to do some.
Speaker 1: Retros for the Marvel like Alien and Preadtit versus different
Marvel characters. But we've reviewed all the Alien movies, We've
reviewed all the Predator movies, AVPs, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: So if you like what we're talking about here, go back.
Those were very fun.
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talk more about later. And just a quick thank you
to everybody because it's me and Taylor's first podcast since then.
Speaker 2: Just again big.
Speaker 1: We'll probably wait for a newscast do like another big overall,
but yeah, big thank you to everyone that came out
and listened for GB Day. It was just as I've
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I couldn't even describe it could feel from people in
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maybe in December, but most of our falls pretty packed.
But yeah, so again, just a big thank you, and
I'm excited to start off this decade. You guys, you
know year eleven now going in the next decade, we're
double digits.
Speaker 2: Now you feel bolder? Nothing? And what is this? What
is this background you got? Now? Taylor is worse? This
is just as bad.
Speaker 5: That's not worse or so just like some green stick.
Speaker 1: Until you find something. I'm just using the fucking stars.
Bridge wouldn't even tell any otherwise. Those are two he's
clear and photos, yeah he's he's clearing photos for two
awful ones. But yes, we're here to you know, let's
make the next decade as good as this podcast.
Speaker 2: You know, but I'm a throw to mister Kirkhan Patz
or what do you think is awesome?
Speaker 1: This is I can't remember this was announced, but it
feels like this show has been cooking for a long time.
I feel like we've be talking about the alien. Yeah,
it's it's going to the crock butt over there, and
you know, lift it up, give it a big smell, Kirkle,
And you like what you're smelling so far, You're like, oh,
that needs.
Speaker 2: A couple more hours on the on the baker.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it smells good there there, and then
maybe like first bite, it's like, Okay, I I think
I need to add a little bit more something to this.
Speaker 3: We're just doing this a little bit longer.
Speaker 4: Off the hop, like you know, jumping into it. I
was definitely really looking forward to this overall, just because
as what you're kind of mentioned there, how it's just
been cooking for a long time and us going through
like the Retro series and then leading up to Alien
Romulus and then uh, like was it after Romulus when
this was announced?
Speaker 3: I know, I.
Speaker 2: Think we knew.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think they're pretty close symmetry. I
could try to find out, but I think they if
it was before or after, it wasn't too far gone.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I feel like I went through how I always do
with these, whether it's Alien or like the Predator show
that came out. I just assumed that it was like
a movie at some point and then interchanged. We got
a Predator shows and then yeah, animated one.
Speaker 3: Right, we were reviewed it.
Speaker 1: It's not a show. God damn Kirk, this for the
whole year. Here's a movie again, here's a movie.
Speaker 4: I also thought this was gonna be a lot shorter episode,
so like part of me it was pleasantly surprised by
by it being longer for just content wise. Yeah, no,
it was just it was just a mixed bag of
feelings going into it, and we're right at the stop,
Like I was really just vibing with what we're getting.
It's like almost shot for shot, like a remake of
like the first like I guess not shot for shop,
but like very similar to the opening of the First
Alien with them just like mm minor spoilers waking up
in their ship and just like transitioning that scene to
them like eating breakfast. I'm like, Okay, this is a
little bit too samesis for me personally here. There's obviously
some things that happened quickly after that that make it
very different than the first movie. But I just like
the vibe of it being on like a Whilan w
Tawny ship, and I mean, that's one of my favorite
movies of all time, the First Alien, So anytime that
you get some similarities to that, I'm getting excited. And
then kind of right after that, I was really disappointed
with the show and I was really not vibing with
it like at all.
Speaker 3: Pretty much for the whole first episode. I think it changed.
Speaker 4: Kind of a little bit near the end, and then
definitely episode two, I was in a completely different ballpark
of feelings and.
Speaker 3: In a good way. I was vibing with it a
lot more.
Speaker 4: I feel like, maybe just the initial this is what
the world is, and this is what the world is
of this story, I just wasn't really loving.
Speaker 3: I wasn't loving the characters that were introduced to besides Wendy.
Speaker 4: I absolutely love Wendy, like, no complaints at all. I
think with that character, maybe when we break down the
details of what's going on with her character, maybe I'll
have a little bit of nitpicks here and there. But
for the most part, like performance wise ten out of ten,
she seems so familiar.
Speaker 3: I looked up the NDB.
Speaker 4: I'd only seen her in Uh, don't worry, Darling, that
disappointing film. Yeah, but I thought there was something else
I had seen her in.
Speaker 3: Just because her face.
Speaker 1: You confirm or not if she was related to Kyle Chandler.
I have no evidence that she was, just because her
last name was Chandler. When I saw it, I was
wondering if it was her.
Speaker 4: I'll take a look at it, But no, I didn't
see that when I was doing my quick little IMD peruse.
But yeah, I don't want to say too much because
like just getting into like the structure of the world
and the different factions that we have. At first glance, yeah,
I wasn't vibing exactly with what was going on. There's
one character in Particla that I just despise and I'm
just just such a mustache TWIRLI villain that's like, are
you fucking Kimmy, Like do we really have to do this?
Speaker 3: But it's like the younger Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Right, just not what I wanted. And it just seems
like he fits like a certain archetype. Reminds me of like, uh,
like the CEO and Avatar, like that type of guy,
and it's just piece of ship, like.
Speaker 3: Billionaire and here it's a trillionaire type character. He's just
so annoys.
Speaker 4: I don't want to have like any scenes with his character.
And I've already had too much radio. But but you know,
I like by by episode two, I was a lot
more into it. I think it was mostly just like
setting expectations, like maybe I just thought I was gonna
be getting a different piece of of media than I
than I was getting. But it's not all bad by
by any means. There's some good juice here. I think
at times the show goes from being the best looking
show and also the worst looking show at times.
Speaker 1: I can't get you with you with worse, but I
can definitely see there's a nose dive that sometimes because
I feel like we're watching much worse stuff on Dizzey
plus sometimes you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like sections is like log truck level.
Speaker 4: There's nothing a lot of like daytime CGI, and I
love big hater of that big time like there go
when you're doing CGI, you do it in the dark
like this background, and I thought some of those like
especially they have like CGI you know, minor spoiler, a
CGI creature in the darkness and it looks perfect like
it looks like it's so well refined. But then yeah,
I think it's mostly episode one when you get a
lot of that more bright CGI blending.
Speaker 2: Oh really, I thought two was a bit more rougher.
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe a lot of back to back them,
so maybe I'll I'm misrememboring some of it, but you know,
like just the practical sets and once we're on a
I'll just say, like the ship sequences, like, I think
all of that looks really really good, like the practical
usage of everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sets, I think there's no issue with sets and I
other than one.
Speaker 1: There was one shot at the end of episode two
that was looking really rough. There's two characters standing behind
like definitely green screen, and it did not blend at all.
It was I'll give you that. I'm not sure if
that's log truck level, but it might be just one
below it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then I don't know, like maybe I was
wanting like a little bit more of like a slow suspense,
like scary thriller, whereas this is at times feeling more
I don't even I'm gonna save that for the spoiler
section because I don't want to reveal too much here.
But yeah, Oh, last thing I was gonna say is
Oliphant's character.
Speaker 3: I man, I love it.
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
Speaker 3: I really really love it.
Speaker 4: I think it's more so just the fact that it's
him being this like synth character, and there's times where
I'm like, I don't buy that he's a synth at all,
but it's just hilarious with the Oliphant so that definitely
helps Who's moments where he just feels like a human.
It's like he's very obviously like trying to be like
a robot and I'm like, oh, man, like like what
are you doing here?
Speaker 3: But he's just got this crazy like white hair.
Speaker 4: And I don't know, I'm enjoying it more so than
like it being a clean execution.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I am looking forward to next week.
Speaker 4: I think it left with an interesting cliffhanger, and but
I don't know, just thinking about like I mean it,
the Alien series is a tough one to kind of
like compare everything together because like when you get in,
like if you want to count like the David stuff
with the Alien Covenant, and it's just like that is
just the most disappointing reveal I would say, of just
like his interaction with the Xenomorphs and like him being
spoiled for Alien Covenant, like being just like the creator
of all these unimors, Like I just hate that in
my mind, like I would rather not even have those
answers given to us, And just thinking about that, this
story takes place like two years before the first Alien
I believe it is twenty one oh two. It would
have been the dates for the first Aliens. I think
this one's twenty one zero zero. I also just don't
love that, Like, I just don't love that. There was
like just you know more, it's like running through the
towns of Earth here. So I do have like other
hold ups beyond the show that I think also hinders
some of my enjoyment of the show overall. But I'll
pass the baton because that was a long overall and I.
Speaker 3: To get it to the spoilers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was two thousand. It's two years before the
first Alien.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess before Ripley goes to uh, well,
I guess she's.
Speaker 2: Six what'd you say?
Speaker 5: LV four twenty six?
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, So before she goes into space, I guess
she's up in space right now. And then I guess, yeah,
here just getting bombarded it and she's just up there
chill them all. Another one pops up and stuff. So yeah,
who knows, But I agree with you that's always an aspect
we're like, yeah, we're doing a lot here that I
I just don't know if I enjoy as far as
that aspect, But I gotta try and check out the door.
I'm gonna go next because Taylor made a comedic background
before we made the thumbnail, which you know, thumbtail one
of the biggest keys to a successful podcast to just
you know, you look at YouTube right now. He just
got Terot photos that's probably frozen doing something off like, oh,
I'm not gonna look at that unprofessional. But you know,
we got Harry Morgan from Deck's Original Sin looking alien,
So I'm glad.
Speaker 2: We got that.
Speaker 1: People never people won't click on it to find out
people won't click on it because I look at this.
Speaker 5: Thumb's later appearing in this episode.
Speaker 4: Christian Slater's part of the show. I loved him in
Original Sin. I'm definitely gonna.
Speaker 2: See one star false advertisement.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's funny that I feel like I'm similar
to you, not on harsh in some situations, but I
feel like for this show for the most part, I
think people are gonna have lots of different opinions on
I don't have anything. I said, I don't think I
have anything that I extremely dislike because even the boy Genius,
I'm like, oh, I like that actor enough and I
get it they're going for so it was fine. So
I don't think I have anything I actively really like, oh,
this has turned me off. I don't know if I
actually really have anything I really love either, because even
like the Wendy character, like yo, yeah, I like that
so far, but I'm not like, oh, I can't wait,
like I'm excited for the show because I know Noah
Holly is big on the slow burn legion was tough
for some people. That was the X Men show did
a couple of years ago about Xavier's son, and that
was very tough for some people because that was a
mega slow burn. But even then, because I talked about
talking about this with making the discord, who really loved this.
He was talking about the dialogue and there's some of
the dialogue he's talking about with the kids that he enjoyed.
Speaker 2: But that's one thing where no Holly usually has some like.
Speaker 1: Really great speeches or great moments or even in this
episode there's a or an episode two, there's a moment
where a character like finds a ball and it's like
this reminiscing of it. It's a minerspoort, but like about
a baseball game you watched with his dad, and usually
know a Holly shows that's like a big like, oh man,
this is like a big moment. I'm really feeling it,
but I haven't got that yet. With the two episodes,
I feel like there's definitely some and I'm a big
fan of his, I guess, just of Legion. I've never
watched Fargo, but I haven't gone to that point where
I'm like, oh, I really feel like it's him.
Speaker 2: But that's a tough thing to do with Alien. But
what are you show me here?
Speaker 3: Daughter of Kyle Chandler.
Speaker 2: There you go, Nepple baby knew it. But anyway, so that's.
Speaker 4: Just good sometimes, right, yeah, quality, you know, there's some great,
great examples of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just got to back it up, you know,
and just accept it, you know, don't don't get all
mad about it, like some slubs too and stuff.
Speaker 2: It's like walk away. But that's to be the tough thing,
I would know, Holly.
Speaker 1: It's like, I feel like this is tougher than anything
with Legion named Fargo, which I've heard great things and
we'll watch one day. It's just like I've always thought, Okay,
I'm down for him to do this, but Alien TV
shows like that's a tough one to crack because most
Alien movies obviously there's some different ones, like I'd say
Cognific Covenant is very different, and I'd say Aliens is
very different. But then for the most part, all the
other Alien movies are you start in a ship, there's
a slow build in the first act. Then the second
act is th are getting revealed, and oh fuck, what's
going on in the third act? Craziness right, lots of blood
and escaping and stuff where it's very tough to do,
and like if these episodes are looking to be all
an hour, to do that for eight hours, it's very
interesting because there's a lot of I feel like engage
and not engaged, like all the broken, low loose and
done a bunch of craz stuff. But then we gotta
pull back and find a reason for the alien to
disappear away for a bet, and then all we're doing
again and all we're pulling back.
Speaker 2: And so I'm gonna be very curious at the end.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll really know how I feel about
the show over all emotion shows, but I like, really
in general, like sometimes I start off like, oh I
love these episodes that they keep doing this, Uh they
got me, this is like Okay, most of the stuff
I really have to see how execute and see where
we are when we get to that finale, because I
think they've provided a lot of interesting things that whilst
I'm interested in every storyline, which is a good thing
because I feel like with most shows, like look at
us reviewing Dexter right now right, I got issues, but
most of the stuff I'm at least interested in, except
for when we get.
Speaker 2: Those cops, We're all like, ah, fuck and me all
check out.
Speaker 1: Even people are comments are like yeah, the cops suck
and you know, no disrespect the actors. But sometimes that
happens in we were just like, oh, this is a
moment I could pull my phone up or do something
because I really don't care about this so far.
Speaker 2: There's nothinglike that.
Speaker 1: I have some questions, some things where I'm like, I
don't know if this makes entire sense, but I still
need to show the go show going forward, because like
I said, I trust kind of Holly in general.
Speaker 2: So I enjoyed these two episodes.
Speaker 1: I'm not throffing at the mouth for episode three next week,
but I'm still interested and like I said, there's some
things that I really enjoyed here, but there's nothing that
I absolutely.
Speaker 2: Loved, but yeah, we'll have.
Speaker 1: To see because it's just to me, even horror shows
in general, that's TV shows and horror that's a very
tough tat, like in this sense non anthology, know on
like a crime drama like and that's where it became
a very popular show for many reasons. But that's like
American horror story would always fall off because like they
could just never expand the story, right, and same thing,
it's like, Okay, we got six more hours of this.
Luckily they introduced a lot of things, so let's see
where they go. So yeah, no, I you know, I
agree with hearing lots of the set it look good.
I think for the I'm gonna actually say seventy five
percent of the effects look good, but I think the
twenty five percent that didn't.
Speaker 2: Look good really didn't look good.
Speaker 1: I won't say log truck level, but I will say
that background did have some log truckiness. And yeah, and
that's a tough thing with this ping eight hours, and
that's where it's like, oh, man, in a movie, you
can hopefully save some of that budget, right, But we've
also seen bad CGI and stuff in those movies, So
uh yeah, I'm I can say overall, I liked it
quite a bit, but I'm more intrigued than on board.
I want to say, Okay, what's next, and think Cliff
Ader didn't really do too much for me because I'm like, okay, fike,
I know we're gonna resolve this, and if we don't
resolve a certain way, that's some really bad storytelling in
my opinion. But yeah, it's it's a lot of things
that are introduced that I agree that some are interesting
and some are like eah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Because I'm always we were tumblous with.
Speaker 1: Clay today because they announced that Weapons prequel and it's like, yeah, prequel.
It's like, they're a tough spot I do fix. Since
we started the podcast, we have got some good ones,
but usually I do straight to like, I don't like this,
especially with the stuff that you know it's called Alien Earth,
no big spoilers, a xenomorphous on Earth, and it's like, yeah,
it's I don't know about some of this stuff, but yeah,
we'll see so taor Field, how do you feel about this?
Speaker 5: Ooh, it's it's very very interesting to be seeing this.
I guess this kind of spacey villain kind of brought
into this long segment just with all these other backstories
and narrations are a narrative, sorry, And so when you
look at how they've incorporated these different storylines on top
of having this alien in here, it's there is a
lot of pressure because I mean you're going from something
that's such a simple concept, like when you look at
the first alien and even Aliens, it's it's pretty simple.
So how do you expand upon that? I mean you
can look at Alien versus Predator, and I mean you've
added a whole other dynamic, dynamic because you got the
Predator in there. So just to flush out this world
that really doesn't have a lot of back story. I
mean I don't know much about the comic books, so
I can't speak to that, but just based off the movies,
I don't really know a lot about Earth. They haven't
really covered a lot of what's going on here and
where we're at with even the company. I mean, the
only time you ever see you Donnie is an Alien
versus Pride requiem, and you get a whole bunch of
Bishop or sorry Wayland in all the other different franchise
or versions, like you get Bishop and then you get
all like him popping up everywhere else, but in here, Yeah,
there's just a lot that they really have a sandbox
kind of access to, like they can just kind of
create whatever they want because there isn't anything pre existing,
so we don't really know what to expect, and I
think the best thing to go about it, and it's
not a spoiler, but just kind of hitting those beats
that we're familiar with that are in the original Alien.
That's something I wish Prometheus and Covenant did was kind
of use technology that didn't look a thousand times better
than what was an alien which was supposed to be
in the future. They should have maybe kept the technology
a little bit more closer to that kind of that
theme that that's odd.
Speaker 1: Because I feel like you've never brought that up with
the prequels, because that's always been an issue with me
in Star Wars, that everything looks so great and then
jump thirty years later.
Speaker 2: It's like, man, we really digress for some reason, you know.
Speaker 4: Also, I also like think of it with like Ripley's
ship is like it's not the high end crew, it's
not a research festival. Like they're just a couple blue
collar workers just trying to get their their.
Speaker 3: Their pay cuts. So and even the ship that we
well spoilers, I guess we're on that.
Speaker 2: There's the ship at the beginning.
Speaker 4: It's pretty similar in ways to that sam A stuff,
even though it is a research vessel, and I believe
that would just because it's more of the whaling Utawny side.
But I guess in that vein the Prometheus and Covenants
were also they were very.
Speaker 3: Different in company, right, but they were.
Speaker 5: Exactly the same company, but completely different designs and whatnot.
And it's like we don't know for certain obviously which ones.
I'm not even gonna say retcon, but which ones. This
is kind of overlooking in terms of the other films,
and it's pretty well apparently.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be for me, the in Covenant.
Speaker 1: But then I've heard conflicting things where it's like they
don't like retcon it, but they still choose to kind
of go their own path, which I guess you could,
which I don't like because I'm some of that. I
don't mind the David because I'm I see Kirkin point.
I get because I have that stuff too. I get
people's point if to go, hey, I don't want to
orger for aliens.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 1: I don't actually mind the David stuff. The thing that
I wouldn't like though, if they're like, oh, well, you know,
these other events just happen to like create this exact
same type of alien that David also did, It's like
to me, it's like, if you're doing this, it's like
either you know, kind of like put your balls on
the table and say, hey, those don't exist, or it's.
Speaker 2: Like, you know what David did that we're gonna find
a way.
Speaker 1: So if at any point, if they kind of go, oh, well,
you know three different things happen on this planet that
also made these aliens, it's like, all right, fuck off,
you know, especially when we've seen so many variations of
the aliens, It's like, I feel like this has to
become like a exact science that David helped.
Speaker 5: But that's the thing. When you look at the original
Alien and even whatever they were doing with Prometheus and Covenant,
that first Alien movie, you're dealing with alien eggs on
this derelict space jockey ship that were there for like
a thousand years. They predated whatever, Like the guy was
fossilized into his freaking ships that predates David doing his
his things and creating the eggs. That's the other thing too,
is that when you tamper with this goop, the black goo,
like you're just the ultimate end result is you're going
to get a form of xenomorph.
Speaker 3: That's what it is.
Speaker 5: That's why again when they go to the planet, I
can't remember the name of it, but they see all
the black goo tubes, you see an alien kind of
representation statue up on the wall. Like it's just that's
that's where it eventually goes. And you can headcanon this
part however you want to that David like he just
created a modified type of Zeno because he that's just.
Speaker 1: What he created, like the Zeno morph, right, like that
we see because even in the.
Speaker 5: But he was like the creator creator because that's.
Speaker 1: No but I mean like the variation of what like, yeah,
he didn't create your Reich is obviously that was the
engineer in the alien right, But I'm saying his events
is what got us to like the alien prime that
we got in the ripley one, right in the seventy
nine one.
Speaker 5: So you're saying that David's David's actually just chest burst
first chess it's just gone, oh, I never seen him again. So, like,
the thing with that is though, because I'm assuming he's
implying that what David created was the xenomorph that we
get in the Ripley series, which is not true because
those eggs, that darrel like ship, that's all that was.
That predates David, like that predates the events of Prometheus
and Covenant.
Speaker 2: Fucking bug.
Speaker 1: So trying to that's that's what happened to those people
in Prometheus. Goddamn whoever know Logan Marshalls hag.
Speaker 4: Sleep with.
Speaker 5: So you're saying that the events of that David did
in Prometheus is what gives us the Primes, you know,
And yeah, because.
Speaker 1: We've seen so many variations, because even at the end
of Prometheus that's like a very different looking right, But
I would say that, yeah, I would say.
Speaker 5: After the crash there like ship though. That's the thing,
because that crash ship predates that they say in the movie.
I'm like, oh, it's so old. It's older than the
events of Prometheus.
Speaker 2: But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm not talking
about that.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about at the end of Prometheus when the
engineer and the other whatever alien kind of form they create,
like a xenomorph looking thing. I'm saying that his tampering
gets us like that exact version that we get an
alien just because I'm, you know, same guy that directed
Prometheus directed Aliens. I'm gonna say that was his intention.
We made the movie like, Hey, this is how we
get this type of xenomorph.
Speaker 2: There's a bunch of variations right.
Speaker 1: Even after the fact a VP, there's like the perde
alien right now, right, But like I feel like, and
I don't know where this is coming from, like in
the Alien Earth Show, but I feel like Ripley meant
that as like not really fuck Riddley meant that. It's like, uh,
this is how you get to that prime form. Even
if there's X, Y and Z, it doesn't matter because
they never he never explains the space shockey stuff, right,
so it's like, who knows what's really going on with
that situation and what other variations there were.
Speaker 5: So ultimately though, I'm I can see what you guys mean.
There's definitely some scenes that stand out CGI wise, not great,
but I'm kind of blown away by some other things
that they were showing. I wasn't expecting certain things to
be kind of shown as much as they are and
it kind of caught me off guard, but yeah, no,
I'm I'm digging at it's it's it's cool. There's some
they're very brief action sequences, but they just had like
the hair setting up on my neck. It was very intense,
and I will say I absolutely love how much peripheral
shots that they have or you're just you're watching something
and I probably did like two A B repeat moments
where I was like, oh fuck, that was good right there.
That was that was some crazy shit that just happened
on screen. So I think that they're doing a good job.
And I was.
Speaker 1: Doing the avy Repegal was going, yeah, the episode took
them fifty more minutes to watch.
Speaker 5: I will say the specific narrative with the characters on
It's not a spoiler Prodigy. I wasn't sure how I
was going to think about our I feel about it,
but I kind of quickly it grew on me and
I'm kind of I'm driving with it and I'm very
much hooked on what episode three is going to bring
to the table.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is everyone not spoiler episode drops or no?
Speaker 2: Luckily it's one.
Speaker 1: So what do you think makes sense because like they
there's some stuff that happens in episode but I feel
like episode two is where a lot of the action happens,
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Speaker 2: So what I was going to say is I was
kind of surprised with the.
Speaker 1: Way No Holly's because it's funny with the Legion, uh pilot.
Speaker 2: I guess it's some of the Legion pilot.
Speaker 1: It was very like heady and lots of dialogue and talking,
and then the last five minutes like the Immune just
pop off and it's a crazy like kind of escape sequence.
I'll say, right, And I thought we're gonna get something
like that, And obviously it's the second episode, but even
in episode two, the amount of carnage of violence we're
gonna get from the main Xenomorph here. I did not
think they'd be coming for a while, so I was
kind of caught up guard. I thought, okay, maybe a
little bit, maybe a couple victims here or there, but
the fact that it's just on Earth, going through apartments
and hotel rooms and buildings, just taking people out in
a way, We're like, I guess they do that. I'm
just kind of unsure, and I guess it's more just
because of like a budgetary thing where it'll pop out,
just become like a tornado, will be like five seconds,
and then when they look everyone's kind of dead. It's like,
I feel like I could be wrong if they've never
felt that with alien before, where they definitely take a
bunch of people out. I guess sometimes maybe some of
those chase scenes and like maybe Coven and whatnot, but
I feel like they're they're always a bit more play
with their food.
Speaker 2: But I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: So we got lots of scenes of the alien though,
just wrecking havoc on our poor main characters. Stuff you'ple
have weird you know, old school sex parties, whatever they're doing.
I don't know, which said, yeah, well that's where we
got some bad CG the guy when he was crawling
and he's half a body has like a you know,
didn't need to show that.
Speaker 3: You just on that list.
Speaker 5: So no, I thought that was fine.
Speaker 1: There a few scenes for turn the brightness on on
that dude crawl and it's h it's not like good
because that's what.
Speaker 5: Your brightness said.
Speaker 2: Well, how perfection is perfection just like light?
Speaker 1: Because my my problem always with that is it's like
they show the legs, that's fine, and then with that
stuff on, it doesn't look good.
Speaker 2: It's just like you could just zoom in on his
upper body crawling. You don't need to show that. But
it walks the.
Speaker 4: Living room and it's just that scene of Willing Dafoe
like in front of the light.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's me on the TV. That's how I noticed it,
you know.
Speaker 5: So like he was dialed in with that gun. Obviously
he was moving forward. He wanted to eliminate this day.
That was his intent. But why the fuck would you ever?
Speaker 3: I obviously do it pretty pure medic Are you going
into that room with that gun?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not close the doors and run?
Speaker 5: If I have basic military training, which is this guy,
I'm sure obviously he does. He knew how to handle
the weapon, like because he picked it up, he was
holding it right, so he obviously knew what to do
and he knew, okay, he had to eliminate this threat.
But at the same time, we have pre existing knowledge,
so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
But still, that's pretty I'm running. I'm sure the fact
that he walked under like you could see the stairs
going up and you knew there was a top floor.
My first thought was, mad, It's it's fun. It's above
you these things, that's how they roll. They're always above you.
Can he had it happened earlier in the elevator, which
that scene in the stairwell was fucked and fantastic. I
really like that. I was really cool. But I just
don't go slowly walking out and then the thing like
jumps over him and whatnot, and yeah, just brutal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm up to minds when it comes to how
much Alien we've had so far. I mean, it's one
of like just the best monsters in like sci fi,
like ever designed.
Speaker 3: So it is cool to see it.
Speaker 4: I think my like, one of my favorite versions of
the alien is the one from the first AVP movie,
just because of the design and like the sleekness of it,
and this one really much, really much really reminds me
of of that version. I think it has to do
with just the level of slobber and like the oh h,
just the saliva that it's spewing on those close up shots.
Speaker 3: I just really like the look there.
Speaker 4: I prefer when it is kind of what you're maybe
mentioning or talking about, Travis, of just like maybe more
of like the predator aspect of it and not trying
to be confused with the the the kaijuice what are
they called the ouches, those predators, but just like it
like stalking its prey and like hiding in the shadows
as opposed to just going in there and being a
tornado of blades and just slicing everyone up. I think
it's definitely capable of doing that. I mean, we we've
seen it do that. It's like the perfect killer, the
perfect creature, as David would say and many others. But
I was just maybe wanting more of a slow burn
of of of the tension and and he just pops
off and we've seen like full chase scenes already in
these first two episodes the one where it's chasing. Is
the character's name actually hermit, like the brother they kept
calling him hermit. I wasn't sure if that was like
a call sign or something, but just a hermit, Hermit.
Speaker 5: It's a it's a call sign. I think his name
is Joe or something like that. I think that's what
the others calling Hermit calls him that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're totally right.
Speaker 4: And that's see when they meet, that's what she called them.
So the Hermit, he's he's running away from from the Zeno.
And in my mind, I'm like, like fuck off here,
Like this guy's not even like a synth or anything
like this perfect creature can't catch this dude that like
got like a five foot head start. I'm like, fuck off.
Just the plot armor on this character alone is bugging me.
Not even to mention how this episode two ended with
him just getting fucking football tackled by the Zeno morph. Like, dude,
this guy if he's not missing an arm, Like, I'm
taking some points off of this.
Speaker 1: It's tough CD, right, because you need a cliffhanger. And
I imagine.
Speaker 2: He's not dead because this thing like.
Speaker 4: And like when Ergren flies off the fucking the cliff.
It doesn't die, but like it's an orc that fell
down with him, not the perfect killing machine the Zeno morph.
Speaker 2: Like and into water too.
Speaker 1: I imagine these two aren't landing in the water, you know, like,
and that's the thing where I'm up two minds, right,
because my my logistical mind says, well, yeah, they should
land and the aliens should just fuck him up, especially
with this it'd be different. This is the first time
we see them, or it's been a couple more quiet kills.
But this alien or the Xenomore specifically, let's just say he, he, she,
whichever gender, is just tearing through this place, right, ultimate fighter,
this one, This one's ready to go. So my logistical
mind says he should be dead. But then my storymine says, well,
if you were to kill him off, that would be
very dumb for the plot because he's not dead, right,
But that's what I mean, Like, I imagine if they
did just open up next week he was, they'd be like, oh, well,
what the fuck was the point in the brothers sister story? Right,
So it's like you're innna lose lose situation where it's
just like I think the Cliffhanger could have just been
like it jumping and then you cut there. It's tough
because you've done that before, right, So that's where it's
very tough with like I said, Alien and TV, because
you're gonna have to do that every week to get
people engaged. It's half the reason why I think the
Alien so much in these first two episodes, because I
think they know it's not like a movie where hey,
we can slow burn them, but the third act, if
we're just fucking deep throwing the ship. Then with the Xenomorph,
we got them right where it's like with the show,
you can't like, let's say third act. Let's say you
do the exact same struct a TV show then and
this shows eight episodes, so let's just say like for
the first six or I'll go down first five, it's
all the slow burn, and then the next three or
like the third act, you're probably gonna lose a lot
of people that aren't like the major They.
Speaker 2: Just like, oh, I like Alien.
Speaker 1: Then it's just like what the fuck is this Peter
Pan shit, you know, like that type of stuff where
it's like that's where you need.
Speaker 2: And that's why I think it's a very difficult.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see at the end of it, like
because I bet there will be some episodes that are
primarily human android synth related, but they're probably just trying
to reel the people in first, you know, even though
there's like I have to say this to the friends
of overall, don't because I talked about Peter Pant, I
think I'm kind of fine with that one, you know,
very legendary classic movie based on many tales.
Speaker 2: Wasn't really sure how I felt about seeing ice.
Speaker 1: Age, and I think it feels to me he would
feel different if this wasn't a Disney product, but because
it is a Disney product, seeing Peter Pan and ice
Age definitely was legitimately just taking me out.
Speaker 2: I was like, this feels like weird, corporate like advertise.
Speaker 5: There's that baden of Sid the Sloth at one point. Yeah,
playing the brother.
Speaker 1: It's like, even though some people might say, like, oh,
this would be cheesy, I don't honestly just make it, like,
just make it also Peter Pant, because then there's a
weird thing.
Speaker 2: When she sees Peter Pant, she goes back to.
Speaker 1: When her brother watching them, and it's like an overall
thematic thing. It's just like the fact that we have
like this screenshot, like I'll pull it up here of this,
like this is a real shot from Alien. I just like,
I won't say, rolled my eyes, but it was just
weird of just there's a phade in of our main character.
Speaker 2: And then sid the sloths right behind, and that's what
it's like. And this was like very odd for me
to know.
Speaker 1: I probably we're like really like And again, if it
wasn't Disney, I'd say, okay, maybe there's his kids like it.
I mean, but because it's Disney, just feels like a
little off, a little weird.
Speaker 2: You know, it takes me out of it.
Speaker 4: Uh you missed the Ice Age Easter egg from the
original Alien? Can you imagine if he does like a
George Lucas and they like splice in those.
Speaker 3: Those little it's like, oh, it's all connected.
Speaker 1: All that's what the the to the next one next December,
that Ice Age six that's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: They're like, what's that frozen over there?
Speaker 3: Just yeah, like animated thought.
Speaker 1: Raymond, Oh my god, that's a wharf. I got no
good war no, no good raymondough.
Speaker 3: Is he the mammoth? I haven't seen I say, no.
Speaker 2: I'm a mammoth. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then is it what's his name? Michael doug As
uh die?
Speaker 4: You go?
Speaker 1: No, that's Dennis Leary Quinn Stacy's that for an amazing
Spider Man rescue me?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I can see how you got there. Yeah. And
then who's the Lady Mammoth?
Speaker 3: Is she in the first movie?
Speaker 1: No, but she's gonna be in Sick, So who's the
Lady Mammoth? I gotta do my retro Queen Latifa?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, I remember that now. I didn't remember it, but.
Speaker 2: Susy said, and then who's who's sid John likes Amo.
Speaker 3: I'm just aunts you thought I could pull that name,
and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like I could. I just answered for you. Before you
get a one star like they're talking about.
Speaker 3: You're looking at the right now, you know, I'm not
looking at the roster.
Speaker 2: I've seen the movie a bunch of times.
Speaker 5: We're still going, you guys highlighting the the kind of mindset,
you know, And I completely agree. It's not They're not
supposed to be really running around going all out of
war like from what we've seen. But it's up to interpretation,
of course. But what we've seen aliens. They are self preservation, right,
They got to think about the hive and getting themselves
set up. So they got to get hosts, put the
host down, start setting up home base. That's what they do.
But this thing is just going on a killing rampage
for who knows what reason. My thought though, was that
we saw a lot of people with chests bursted out.
Obviously a few other people that were experimented on that
you know, it wasn't looking good for them, but we
definitely saw more than one person have a chest blown out,
and so it made me think, Okay, well there's got
to be maybe more than one xenomorph.
Speaker 2: Kind of fucking the idiots.
Speaker 5: The the storage compartment with the eggs, it was weird
to see just them out in the open and not
in like a containment unit. And then we keep getting
flashes of like one container with an actual egg inside
that container. But I did appreciate that callback to how
the eggs were being stored, just like how they were
back in the derect ship. In the first Alien movie.
Speaker 1: You had your boy h Kirk with some of the
guy him plot arm or think of this guy right,
things fucking pulsating open his little lips up and he's
like right in there, like, yeah, he's not the not
the smartest chap.
Speaker 5: If he if he had a face hugger in him,
or a face hugger like impregnate him, then the alien
wouldn't be killing him, of course, because it would be
keeping him alive. We've seen them do that before. But yeah,
that's just that's wild. There's no like something to look
it's perfectly safe, I asshow you it's like, fuck, no,
this thing looks so unnatural and you know you're already
dealing with invasive species or whatever on this ship. Like
it's just you don't be looking at something like that.
Speaker 1: But that I don't care even if it's an egg.
I know I'm never getting that fucking close to it
like in this guy. And I'm not even trained like
Army medic guy. This is a guy like I know
that they probably don't know.
Speaker 2: I know they.
Speaker 1: Probably don't know all this type of stuff, but you'd
feel like they're so advanced with their androids and synth,
like they might have a bit more training than we
would in the Army Medics right now.
Speaker 2: But not this guy. He's but he's going in to
take on as.
Speaker 1: You know, more if he's looking at eggs full frontal,
you know, so.
Speaker 5: He knew that they were dealing with foreign species. He
says it like alien. He knew, Okay, there was something
in this guy's gi track that's not there anymore, and
he knows there's some definitely some freaky things moving around,
especially this giant bear that's following him and shit. So
the idea of him just looking over at that that
egg is not cool. So we'll see how that goes.
But the idea though that they pitched were Okay, ship
crashes on Earth and you have all these different species
on there. I was always apprehensive for it. I wasn't
sure how was gonna like it with the alien kind
of being on Earth in this sense, because this is
unlike AVP. You can look at that and you can
know it's not really tied to the Alien movies. It's
just their own standalone universe thing, right, And so when
you look at this, they're trying to really go there
and make it a canon kind of story. But Alien
is just the way I see. It's just filled with
anthology stories. I mean, that's how the comic books really are.
It's all just different stories. Oh, aliens pop up here,
colonial marines here, so forth, so forth. But the idea
here that this one's just running around. I'm curious if
we'll get something like a I don't think they'll go
as far as a queen at the end of it.
But if I had to make a prediction, I think
that the alien is gonna somehow obviously get to never Land,
that Prodigy Island, and just be roaming around free there,
because it looks like I remember the trailer showed like
in a xenomorph, like in a cave and there's forest
around it. It was like all alone and stuff. So I
think it's going to get to that island and just
kind of live there forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: I was for it, But then I think I'm a
little more iffy on like all the other species in
the ship, because I just don't want my worries they're
going to be used for, like, well, we don't want
to use this, use the xenomorph too much, whether it's
for story reason or budget reason. Let's make these little bugs,
Let's make this eyeball thing like I don't want to become,
you know, like the what's.
Speaker 2: That conjuring movie? Too?
Speaker 1: Like Animal Comes Home or something like that, where it's
like it's another conjuring movie and and and it's an
annibel movie. But it's like it's at the House of
the Warrens and it's like, oh, all the things come alive.
Speaker 2: And for me, that's funny because it's like an hour
half movie.
Speaker 1: I just don't want them to be a crutch of like, well,
what other weird alien eyeball thing can we make up here?
Like I like, I guess, don't get me wrong, right
it We make sense for them to be collecting a
bunch of species, but also think that would be very,
I don't know, very risky to have multiple It's not
just like, Okay, we got the xenomorph and that's the
killer and the rest of these species are tame whatever,
let's study them. These all look to be nightmarish things.
Speaker 5: I want it, but it's it's interesting because I thought, Okay,
they wanted the ship to go to Earth, but that's
not the case. The ship just fucked up and was
crashing in Earth. It was supposed to dock of that
space station that it just like skeetered by. It couldn't sew.
Speaker 4: Down you like, like purposely sent it to Earth, though
the whole idea is to get the specimens to Earth.
Speaker 2: I think he did. I don't think that was the
mission plan though it was.
Speaker 3: He was like talking to the mother, right, and he's like, yeah,
because I crashed to Earth.
Speaker 5: Because I think the ship was fucked at that point,
I think, okay, like the only way to actually ensure
this the species all survive is to you know, land
on Earth, which is fucked. But obviously it's neat to
know too. You have multiple different companies that are running
the planet now, and certain companies own other planets in
the Solar System, and here we go, we have this
territory of the Prodigy and when and Utani legally they
can't go into this territory because it's owned by the
other company, and so the ship crashes there and then
this company is dealing with it, which kind of is
interesting because well, maybe I'll say that to the end.
I'm just trying to connect the dots to like aliens,
but I'll bring that up at the end of the
episode for conversation.
Speaker 1: But is that something Kirklan that interests you, because I
feel like that's like a clone Trooper thing for Taylor,
where he's really invested in, like the corporation's way tawny. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And for me, I'm like.
Speaker 1: That I'm not interested, but like my worries in a
show that we're gonna get a lot of like that
phone conversation he had with the other you know you
tony representative.
Speaker 2: I was like, none of this is working for me,
Like if this is gonna be.
Speaker 1: This type of stuff of like oh, let's get lawyers,
it's like I don't have really any interest. That's where
I think it works in the movies because you get
like little spices of it, but then it continues on
with our main adventure where I could see an eight
hour show like oh, this is gonna be subplot number three,
and that's potentially to me could be like a I
don't care about what one billionaire arguing with another billionaire
about bad stuff that they're gonna get. It's like, where's
the crux of like why do I ca right? Where
most of the other stories have somebody that I care
about or character? Sure route for it's like why do
we care about which billionaire owns this ship?
Speaker 2: Right? You know?
Speaker 4: Yeah? That And that's where I was like pretty much
at the start of episode one, or in that first
quarter of that episode when when we're getting like to
Earth and they're they're breaking down.
Speaker 3: Actually that's in't like the crawl.
Speaker 4: I think it's like the text breakdown of what's going
on on Earth at this point in time. And I
was interested until maybe it was revealed and it was like, Okay,
maybe this is something I would have enjoyed, like the
possibilities of it, And now that I'm getting the explanations,
it's just like, oh, yeah, this is a little bit
uninteresting for me. But like, I don't know, I am
still a little undecided, because there is some things that
are interesting, Like.
Speaker 3: I I do like the setup of just this is
the state of.
Speaker 4: The world, Like it is just these massive companies, and
there is a reason why there's all these different types
of synths because they're kind of making their own versions, whether.
Speaker 3: It's the Sinse, the Cyborgs.
Speaker 4: I can't remember what the new ones are called, just
the Neverland Kids, I'll.
Speaker 2: Use, Yeah, I can't remember what they were.
Speaker 4: They're like humans in a robotic body now and they're
basically just can't die, which is kind of a God
mode version.
Speaker 1: Big canon thing to add to Like, yeah, like I
know it's not Aliens, but I feel like that's just
as big as Case, just as big as David, but
like it's under that tier of like, oh, we now
have these because it's never happened in the other Alien
movies where we have these people that have their mind
transport into a robot pretty much.
Speaker 2: Like that's crazy.
Speaker 5: Why I think it's not going to exceed this show.
I think it's only going to exist here and they'll
die off or something.
Speaker 3: I hope.
Speaker 4: So I think that's where it's going down, Like certain
areas of Oh, in the back of my mind, I
thought I knew I wanted those answers.
Speaker 3: Kind of like, oh, I want to know more about both.
Speaker 4: With that, and then I get what I get and
I'm like, oh, man, I didn't I didn't want to
know about both of that now in hindsight, and I
don't want to know about these corporations because of just
ball boy, you know, boy Wonder.
Speaker 3: Like, I fucking hate that character so much.
Speaker 4: So now when I'm watching you know, one of my
favorites of all time Alien, am I gonna be thinking
about him?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
Speaker 4: Luckily, his name is not littered all over that that
movie title but as of right now, it hasn't been
the best execution for me personally of getting invested in
this world. And I also just like the design of Earth, Like,
I know, we've been here a couple of times in
the series Alien Romulus or no, they're not even on Earth,
right there are we've been on Earth as the a
VP movies didn't.
Speaker 2: So where where were we.
Speaker 3: When she woke up? Like in Aliens.
Speaker 5: She was in a space sabot.
Speaker 1: Okay, where was Guy Pearson Prometheus at the being that movie?
Speaker 5: Not Earth?
Speaker 2: How do you know? How do you know? You prove it?
I asked you, and you because your one says never,
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 4: Chance it could be, but let me let me so
I am in I think in my mind, I'm also
just like, oh, what does Earth look like in this
in this dystopian universe?
Speaker 2: It's like a c GI TV show budget that's that.
Speaker 4: It looks We're like Thailand, you know, like like I'm
pretty sure when I had somebeds on it said like
speaking Thie, and I'm like, Okay, I guess this could
just be a different area of Earth, and maybe there
is areas that maybe look more of the more cyberpunky,
like I guess maybe that's not even the right one,
like a retro punk more more like what the aesthetic
of like the.
Speaker 3: First Alien would be. Well even then, like bulk tech,
that's futuristic.
Speaker 2: We weren't on we weren't on Earth, imagine, but do
you know where we were for Romulus when they left
off there?
Speaker 1: And Kaylee Spainey goes like she does a similar thing
where she tries to get her.
Speaker 5: Report remember that planet?
Speaker 1: No but that and I guess that's not Earth, right,
But it's almost something like that were that to me,
like like all this it feels like something far advanced
with something different in spacey where it's like I'm not
saying it didn't look different, but I think it's just
because one, like I said, to me, it looks a bit.
Speaker 2: More I would say, cheaper, but just not not immaculate.
Speaker 1: And it's just like, okay, some high tech buildings, you know,
which is gonna maybe that's the best run to go
so they don't break the budget everything, But it's not
like you know, I don't know, stretching the.
Speaker 2: Imagination, but I want to go back to here.
Speaker 1: Why are you so certain you would not see this
concept that never lying kids in anything else.
Speaker 5: It depends at this stage. I'm just I'm feeling that
they're not going to be You don't sound like confident,
you know, but it depends what they're choosing to act.
So are they going to act Alien three in Resurrection?
Because if they do, then that changes things. I mean,
when you look at the resurrection resurrection you have with
on a rider's a since but you learn, okay, like
most of the Sins are kind of acts at this
point in the future, and that's like twenty three hundred
or something, and then it's like, okay, some of us
are still high under the radar, you know, most sins
are not allowed to be we're operating these days. They're
all just decommissioned. So it depends how they're going to
go forward here and change the narrative. Right if they're
going to ask those movies and kind of you know,
do something new, and maybe maybe that's what they do.
Maybe they decide, Okay, we're not going to follow that
that path. That's my only my only hang up because
I feel like, okay, right now I'm bowed by that
that foundation of Alien Resurrection and the sense just being
kind of decommissioned and whatnot. But again, they could accent
and if they do, then sure I'll run with that.
I got no problem with that. And it makes sense
because you have the Alien franchise focusing on the synthetics
that weighing you tiny creates, right, they didn't have these
sins that were human consciousness that were poured over into
these synths, right, it's their creation was just ais right,
that's what I did with the robot bodies.
Speaker 1: So well, and I guess the way it could work
of one obviously, because it's probadgy. You think that's new
for the show right here, that's Proudy's never been a
faction as far as.
Speaker 5: I know, I'm gonna say it's new, but I can.
Speaker 1: Okay because to me, I thought like, and I'm all
down for I kind of get it when he's like, oh, yeah,
we're gonna do this just because we can control them.
See what they're doing yet da da da. But to me,
it's like, so you're sending a munch just sense we
have the mind of a child to get like this
very big cargo, and that to me would be like
a thing where maybe they could all get killed off
and they could say like, hey, this is why that
program shut down because they say, hey, they said adults
can't do it right because their minds are like too
straight and they can't be fluid like that. So they
can say, oh, that's why this program's also shut down
because they can only be kids. But kids in these
situations are not fucking good because like, why would you like,
how's this happen?
Speaker 2: Yeah? How'ses? What do you think too? The old font?
Speaker 1: Since would rather have you know? These kids are just
six more versions of him. I feel like shoot them
like this. I mean like I feel like I get
what he's trying to say, right, and you know they're
trying to advance technology and I don't know, I wasn't
into that scene. He's like, I'm trying to find someone
that's programmed the all smart people, and they're gonna train
this so I canna finally have a smart conversation. The
problem was, I don't think whether it's writing or acting wise,
they've portrayed that this character, the Genius boy, is that
two level genius.
Speaker 2: I can believe. Okay, he's like a Mark.
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg like savant where he's younger in credit this program, right,
But to the fact like.
Speaker 2: I can't speak with anybody and not be challenged.
Speaker 1: And I feel like even in that same scene, he
was already being challenged by the woman he was talking to.
Speaker 2: So I just I didn't buy that. So I think
that's my question too.
Speaker 1: I just didn't I didn't fully buy the I bought
sending old font and the god what's her name, Wendy.
He's like, Okay, that's fine, that's one of them. But
when he sent them all, like, so this project, which
I'm sure cost, I'm gonna just say billions of dollars revolutionary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's like revolutionary, Like.
Speaker 1: This is your first crop, this is the first class,
and ah, let's send them all in to this unknown situation.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I know, granted you probably think it's just a ship
crash and there's no xenomorph that's gonna be moving like
a fucking tornado. But still I just felt like that's
very irresponsible. So that's where even then to the character.
If he's supposed to be this very smart guy, I
would have liked if they gave some sort of reason,
but he just like threw the ball and he was
all like snotting, like yeah, whatever, send them, let's see
what happens. I would I wish they would have reeled
it back, whether he'd made as a choice or dialogue
to be make them see all the benefits of Oh
if we send them there, they could learn this, they
could advance this way into that.
Speaker 2: But just it almost felt like, oh they die whatever,
fuck it.
Speaker 1: You know they did, but his performance, his performance didn't
strike that as like to me, his performance strike this.
These are just regular androids, like whatever, send them. These
are like to move the consciousness from one body to another,
especially in the alien like cannon, which has never happened.
That's a huge tale they're talking about, like this can
revolutionize everything. Well whatever, I could just sacrifice all six
of them. So it's like, I know the programs worked,
I guess, but I just I just didn't buy him
sending them all. And I felt like the motivations were
all over, the dialogue was all over.
Speaker 2: Just and same thing.
Speaker 1: How is this any better than just sending six versions
into the olfon this seems like it's more trouble than
it's actually. So I think just all over that segment
just nothing was really working for me at all, And
I think it was writing to me.
Speaker 5: I think he's not a great character, and it is
some of the writing. And I think at this point
it's purely how you will individually interpret the scene because
there's a lot of different contexts from it. I think
I took it as Okay, he wants to put them
in this situation, and he pre established because she was
doing the computer screen stuff and was able to override
and hack into the little AI dude at the teller station,
and that's an unpredictable variable that he wasn't expecting from
creating these things, these new stents, and I think that's
exactly what he wants. Like if some of them die,
sure they're gonna die, but he's hoping for, okay, one
of them out of the six that comes out after
this rescue op. I mean, that's that's huge. That could
be again getting to that stage where I don't want
to have a conversation with the AI that I create,
but like, what is THEI going to create? Uh? And
then that AI creates another thing, and then that's what
I want to have a conversation with. It's going to
be getting better and better and better. And I think
that's obviously what they're trying to show is Wendy being
because these other kids, kids soldier people, like I think
they're gonna die. It's just the way they're being afraid,
Like that one scientist guy who was just measmerized by
the fucking plant thingy, like, I'm assuming that was the
mosquito that was changing into another form, which the little
fucking mosquitoes. That's what it was on GBDA and your
fucking porch. Those things are just going to tell me, yea,
they sucking your blood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I was standing here last night. Give them
some more, you know, and like David, all small.
Speaker 2: Things, all big things, that's yeah, they suck it in.
That's broods, non strange blood.
Speaker 1: But let's say that breaking them and throw a circling
about genius boy because he said, look of discuss multiple times.
Speaker 2: So will be right back and we're back before you go, Kirkland,
because I might forget about it. I will say I
think all the actors.
Speaker 1: Are doing a good job of portraying kids and like
human synth bodies, and I like that story and at
least I think that's something new and fresh to the franchise.
Speaker 2: We'll see where it goes.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say never they can never do anything
because you know, a couple of years ago, I don't
think we would have thought like a Predator movie is
just gonna randomly have a Waylandani.
Speaker 2: Since like as a backpack all the right. So it's
like you never know whatever's a hit.
Speaker 1: But tay or Kirkland, I take it from a few
comments your name not not a big fan of boy
genius and some of.
Speaker 2: The stuff going on. So how do you feel without him?
Speaker 1: Ho do you feel the stuff we talked about, like
he sims being sent all that stuff to him?
Speaker 2: And I just kind of went back and forth on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, uh, might be, might be, might be
a little extreme, but I think it's all bad with
that character. I would rather him just being like complete
one out there. It's like he's the one funniness and
then you have some just like scientists in this role.
Like I just hate that they put so much emphasis
on it. It's like the youngest trillionaire ever and of course,
like we're in the trillionaires at this point in time,
and like I it's hard enough for me to fathom
what a billion looks like, and this guy's just just
sitting on a trillion brillion and just being like the
most like bland version.
Speaker 3: Of those characters of like he's so rich, he's so smart,
he's so involved in every science experiment.
Speaker 4: He's always carrying a ball with him, he's always chewing
an apple, he's always condescending and being an asshole to everyone.
Speaker 3: That he's talking to.
Speaker 4: He's got these god complex and like already it's just
been way too much screen time for him. I think
if we had this amount of screen time that we
had with him in the first two episodes, like spread
over the whole season, I would have liked it a
lot more because it would have been you know, sample size,
little amuse boosh versions versus this just this is your
main course, and I fucking hate it and I have
to eat it because it's that's just what was given
to me. And yeah, really not interested in like his
company beyond like the children, that's like the main draw
there everything you already mentioned Travis with like just like Okay,
this is like super important and super rare, first time
this has ever happened. We're gonna send the whole fucking batch,
not just just one or two, the whole batch. Maybe
they're confident that they can just replicate it. But it
seems like they have to find like certain like children
to even qualify for it. But I don't know, maybe
they just find lost children.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a hot take too. I'm not a big
Peter Pan fan, so just like the tie with that too,
I'm I'm not not super super interested there, But I
don't know. I do really really like the character of
Wendy and just I think like performance is uplifting every like,
like her character is interesting with with the brother dynamic,
she's reminding me of I think her name is Ava
from ex Makana, like that.
Speaker 3: Type of character, and just her her because it's like, like,
what's her name? The Conda was her first name?
Speaker 2: My gosh, Alicia. There you go, like Alicia Fastbender.
Speaker 3: Now she still got her performer name, you know, just
like it is.
Speaker 2: Kind of fun. I've actually never sometimes or the hyphen
I've actually never put two.
Speaker 1: Two together that he did Dave and she did that
like two peak ai like synth performance. That's kind of funny,
Like you could argue both their best performances are playing
fun used to be like the romance version where they're
like David and then me fuck yeah, David's looking.
Speaker 4: For love.
Speaker 3: Out of a crazy three way amongst like two David's maybe.
Speaker 2: More.
Speaker 3: No, I think both of those. The reasonhy I brought her.
Speaker 4: Up is because she does a good job of just
showing like the youthful, like awe of the world, of
like she's learning everything. And I think Wendy is also
doing a good job with that, and not so much
that she hasn't interacted with the world before because she
has been a human up until the age of twelve
I think it was. But she's got a supercomputer as
a brain now, so she's just like digesting all this
information and just stalking her brother and uh just she's
got god mode with quotes and there was basically like
fucking Ultron with just those monitors, Like she's just getting
all this into It's it's also funny how like this
boy Wonder is supposed to be so fucking smart. I'm like, man,
like she's already just like crack like hacking your own systems,
Like you have no control over this with this one.
Speaker 2: Well, no, they gave her. They did say, they gave.
Speaker 1: Her permission to have access. So that's where they screwed up,
because they they they said.
Speaker 3: Mistake, not like hack, like the the like the worker bot,
and well, no, I.
Speaker 2: Think they just gave her access to like the web
and they're like those resources.
Speaker 1: But I think they didn't figure out that, like, oh
she would just figure that out, just kind of just ohestly.
I don't think it was like a sap of the finger,
but quicker than they anticipated.
Speaker 3: So it might be. Yeah, it's not so much like
end of the world for them yet.
Speaker 4: But I feel like it's also just like an AI
trope that I don't like in media, where it's just
like we never thought that it is going to be
taking like, you know, just just going this far, you
know what.
Speaker 1: I feel like we live in that world right because
I'm one of those people that we're gonna we're gonna
get fun.
Speaker 5: You can't know that term.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think that's gonna be the case.
Speaker 2: But anytime I say that A is gonna take over,
she's like, no, No, that's that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 5: But I'm always terrified. No, I'm always terrified of the
bill said the AI is not going to take over.
Speaker 3: I probably said that, So.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're interchanging, dyl.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't trust the AI.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, AI.
Speaker 5: Every time, you know what I always say, I always
say thank you and hello. I'm very friendly because that,
you know what, the AI could be pointing a gun
at me in ten years, like you were nice to me.
I'm like, yes I was. And he's going to go
And so it hurts even.
Speaker 2: More than I kill you. I kill you first, I
kill you quickly, Taylor.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't really have any positives to say
on this character, and I'm we're seeing him dying. I
think it'll be by one of the lost people, like
like one of the children versus the Zeno.
Speaker 2: But what what do you mean he's gonna die by
the children?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, people, that's actually interesting theory. Oh really, I think
get pissed at him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's gonna he's gonna do the same thing
that all these characters do where he just starts showing
his true colors and then you know, being an asshole
and abuser to like maybe he's gonna harm someone that's
I don't know, he finds.
Speaker 5: It, I'll say, kills him.
Speaker 3: I'll raise you all the fun Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I say, just the Zeno get them. I
think they're gonna give this piece of ship character like
he gets teared up. Are you gonna threw a pizza?
Speaker 2: Bet?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, you have more than one a year going on?
Speaker 5: Yeah, the whole month, sir.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, let's see what else they talked about the
pure Pan people. Yeah, I'm enjoying that so far. We'll
see where it goes. I think it's at least something
new to it. So talked about that storyline. Yeah, they're
all fucked in this mission. They're all looking scared, and
that the redhead one just looks like she wants to
get out of there.
Speaker 2: See got that going on?
Speaker 3: She reminded me of is it Lambert from Fromillion one?
Speaker 2: Just like, don't go there?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Other right? I was gonna ask, because maybe we'll see
more of it.
Speaker 1: So you talked about in the non Spoils, But we
get this setup of a very alien you know, the
movie type of setup of a crew, some fucking weird
fellow just watching one of his fellow castmates.
Speaker 2: And then but I found it interesting that.
Speaker 1: So we get a little set up and then as
they're all kind of getting to be frozen in the Cairo,
they show that all their like flashes of their deaths.
Right other than our main kind of Synthia, that's who
knows what his mission is because like maybe he's trying
to get back to Yeah, maybe he's trying to get
a mother base. But he felt like he was being
David like stingy right, like he was he's doing the
data thing where it's okay, something's not right with this
this ai like he has his own motivation here. He's
killing his own crew. He's saying everyone's dead before they're dead.
It's like, what the fuck's going on? But you see
them all on they get flashes of that. I'm hoping
that we get continual flashbacks to the past because if not,
I really would have liked the show to start off
with just that scene solidified and then move forward. So
that's where it's like a wait and see for me.
But if it's just that, I'm like, oh, that's a
litle disappointing. I think that would have been a really
good cold opener, and then you could save the Xeno
more for like episode two, you know, but I'd agree.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I completely agree. That's where I was saying,
And the non spoilers were, like the show started really
hot with me, because it was just showing me, you know,
a different version of the start of Alien where they
wake up from their cryo, Like I shit, you not
even like the fading into the breakfast scene.
Speaker 3: They're like sitting in the exact same spot. They're having
the same type of dialogue they have in the Alien one,
and like, I love that movie. It was reminding me
of it.
Speaker 4: But that's where it was like, Okay, like this was
a little bit too Sames, He's from my liking here.
But I was still excited to just see another a
new set of crew and their own complaints with the company,
and I wanted to elaborate on that a little bit.
And then we just kept getting these flashes of what
was to come, and it just seemed like it was
quickly wrapping that up, and the next thing we knew
we Hadmorrow. I think it is the character's name in
the mother room, poor lady knocking at the door with
the alien coming there, and it just it just was
really really quick, and I was a little bit I
wasn't disappointed at this point in time. It was just like, oh, wow,
we're really just hitting the gas pedal here on how
we're going to get this alien to Earth. And yeah,
following up on what we were talking about of like
this this synth is he a synth?
Speaker 3: Is that what he is? Or is he a cyborg?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay because his arm like changes, right and you can
get like fucking terminal.
Speaker 1: So the Sith is just like a David ashing right
where they're just purely robots their fore mission.
Speaker 2: The cyborg is like, is this guy.
Speaker 5: A human with mechanical augmentations?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, because he was sweating and everything like that.
And then the Neverland people those are something different, I
guess right there new hybrid conscious right, yes, so right
the hype right, they are hybrids technically, that's the credit said.
You're right, fucking hybrids.
Speaker 3: Can get rid of them.
Speaker 2: The Dzenomorph coming up soon.
Speaker 4: It says that they're directive is like these specimens to
get them back to whalan Utawni.
Speaker 3: And it's like, are they not just going back to
Earth right now? And like doing that?
Speaker 4: Like why does he have to crash the ships? Like
I imagine maybe we'll get some more answers because that
character he didn't die, right, how did they dismantle them?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 3: I can't remember nothing.
Speaker 1: They arrested him, but then the Xenomorph popped off and
killed the guards there sweating still, and then he left,
and I guess he's just still.
Speaker 2: On the hunt of the Xenomorph. Yeah, that'shere. I'm confused.
I'd have to watch this.
Speaker 1: I didn't know they were going to Earth or the
main mission. I think I thought that was maybe him
doing some fuck reab but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe that
was the plan the whole time. It was strange because
it's the plan the whole time. Yeah, why does he
wouldn't kill everybody? So that's why I think there's something.
Speaker 4: Maybe it was like the David thing where he's like
purposely infecting everyone because there were some some chest bursts out.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: There was definitely something that was foul play, I'd say
for sure, because those people were in their cryout tubes
and yet they got hit by the face huggers and
yet like what would have went wrong? Right, Like that's
what we need to see. I think we're gonna get
flashbacks because I hope like two episodes and we're done
with the crew. I don't think so, because they highlighted
and they emphasized a few people in that crew a
little bit, So I think we'll get as time goes on,
some flashbacks to show at least what happens, because that
girl was kind of like sitting at the table. The
eyeball thing was staring at her and she was like
doing a test on the wasp thing. So there's some
more storytelling there.
Speaker 1: Or they do like a single episode where they just
get that all done one shot, right, like maybe at
some point, you know, he gets arrested or he tells
the story of the crew and then it's okay. Episode
six is just a full on that crew because yeah,
to me, they're already sending us up, like the guy
being creepy towards the other girl. It's like, okay, that's
the storyline effect you dive into. Even though he met
his fate terribly as well. Do he died, so watch
it'll just open up on David's there, he's he's fucking
and everything again.
Speaker 2: Show how he died. Who No, it just shows up
like stream like.
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, just and then I think they showed like
a dead body and stuff, so I think everyone's dead obviously, right,
So yeah, no, I'd fucking do a backflip if David
was revealed to be on one of these ships or
something like that.
Speaker 3: But then behind him, look who I found.
Speaker 5: That that scene. I really liked it when Morol that's
his name. I think he's in the mother He's in
the mother room and the girls like bang on the
door and he just turns around. He starts like sealing
the door off, and then like the zeno just kills
her and then like slowly just backs up to where
window is and looks and just like smashes through. And
then he has that little like impact slot that he
can go into and as soon as that just closes
and the drool just like drops on his face and
then it's just this fucking thing. It is just bang
and scraping at the door and he's just you know,
like that just the perspective of him sitting there and
like looking up and seeing like the fucking like the
your ceiling panel just shaking as this thing is fucking
hitting at it and losing its fucking dogging. That was
a terrifying scene. I really liked that.
Speaker 1: Do they have to choose to project acid because a
lot of people are getting drooled on this episode?
Speaker 2: But no acid all? Is it usually another attack?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 2: Is it their blood or right is the maybe it
is the blood, right, I.
Speaker 5: Think your blood. But some of them have the capabilities
of spinning acid dispatch.
Speaker 3: Yet it's a different thing.
Speaker 1: No, not yet, but uh yeah, okay, So we talked
about number one kids, talked about billion your boy, we
talked about yeah, so old I I agree with you quickly,
And I'm not sure if it's a choice or not
yet where I like him and sometimes he feels like
a since and sometimes he doesn't. But I don't know
if that's them trying to like blend reality where you
have him working with other like the hybrids that are
actually people and robots together, right, So this this thing
that he's kind of, oh, we've trained this way to adopt,
this way to be almost human like, so he can
you know, work with the other people that are type
of humans.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: For me, it was interesting because I talk about this
withe Mike where you know, there's a big speech he
gave on the ship and there's always a bigger animalists
and the like they're just fucking doing the qui gon
bigger fish speech right here, you know, and I thought
it was gonna There's a couple of times where I
without these big speeches from him or other characters were
gonna hit, but they felt very basic. So I liked
him with the old font. So I kind of like
him and generally and everything he does. But yeah, I
agree that sometimes feels human. Sometimes he feels like a sense.
But again I'm waiting for the whole serious because I
felt like that it might have been a purpose full
choice just of who the people he's working with, right,
because I.
Speaker 2: Think it'd be a little more morph to have that
going on.
Speaker 1: But I think he's got some funny one liners, especially
in the second episode one of them on the ship
and looking for stuff, So we'll see what happens. I
don't think he seems to be like a Morrow or David,
where I don't think he has his own as of
right now.
Speaker 2: Motives. Right seems like he's just a mission guy. Maybe
that'll change right as things go on.
Speaker 1: To me, we'll see a longer version of that, but
right now I seems like he's just running his ragtag
of you know, weird synth hybrid people.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I just I big Timothy Olavon fan, so
I think that helps for sure, and just just having
this like crazy hairdew on him and just just his
I don't know, there's something about him that just makes
me drawn into the performance. And yeah, I like the
lines when they're in the ship and they're all like
all the Neverland children or they're kind of freaking out
and he's like fears for animals, We're not one of them.
He's like keep moving and just just those types of lines.
The other one is when he calls Wendy when she
first finds her brother and she's just like tripping out
and then he's like he's like get.
Speaker 3: Back here, blah blah Blah's like I found him. It's
like I do not care about that.
Speaker 2: That was good. Yeah, Yeah, that's good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see and then he'll be I guess
around next week with the other since we'll get that
going on.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, they did reveal that.
Speaker 1: Which I actually don't mind that the that because I
was worried for a bit when she didn't ride away
reveal the sister or she was a sister as we're
gonna get a mission possible, you know you ever fucked
your sister ethan situation, because why he was looking at
her going yeah, and then I like, next to you
and say, oh, yeah, that's your sister says okay, good
right there like asked some.
Speaker 3: Question twelve, Like I kind of forgot about yeah, twelve
year old in this body.
Speaker 1: I like that he already asked her questions. So like, again,
I know, we have eight episodes, so you could have
strung that long. But to me, the meat and potatoes
is in that situation because like I think, and we
won't talk about that tonight because we're already going longer.
But I think that's an interesting, you know, quandary of like, okay,
is it right to put your consciousness in this different body?
And but it's like, well, but if you're already dying,
what does it matter?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: It's like that becomes a very science versus spiritual slash
like religious sort of debate, right because many cultures, if that,
if that became a real thing in our world, you
could see millions of people saying that's like you're going
to hell for doing that and X, Y and Z.
Speaker 2: Right, But it's like, I think, so if I was
already dying, if if legs, I.
Speaker 4: Forget to a point where it's maybe I got my healthcare,
you know, I bubb up my knee, or something already
don't have the best knee, they get just robotic leg replacements.
Speaker 3: I'm like, fucking sign me up, let's do that. If
just just whatever, that's a whole different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a whole different.
Speaker 3: I'm six foot eight.
Speaker 5: You're giving up, you're giving up sleep, you're giving up eating.
Speaker 2: Look, she's gonna looks so small if you're the size
of Lebron James.
Speaker 1: Now too, you're already taller than her, and now you're
gonna be six foot eight, just town over her. Uh No,
So with the body and leg no, I think yeah, obviously,
like maybe bierplacement.
Speaker 2: Sure, if I couldn't walk or be injured, I don't think.
Speaker 1: Then it always depends on the severity of the issue, right,
But yeah, if I was dying and then you could
flip over, then yeah, sure, why not because it's just like,
especially at that age, right, I think it maybe might
be different if you were older and you've lived a life,
and maybe because that would like the guy said, you
could create well he's said they're talking about creating immortality.
But then I don't understand what happens when Wendy's alive
for like thirty years is she always gonna have the
mentality of the children the child or not because take learning, right, Okay,
But then if it's.
Speaker 5: They're giving her hormone kind of like things to kind
of simulate that aging.
Speaker 1: So if you stung about immortality, but then they set
up that adults can't make that process anymore. Right, So
if you make her more adult like and let's say something,
yeah yet, so that's the thing. But if you're making
her more adult like and something happens her body, you
can't move that consciousness as of right now because they go, well,
her mind's too rigid.
Speaker 4: Right, So that's where it's like scenario they just keep
printing her out.
Speaker 1: Well exactly right, you technically could like in that's an
area you could like in our life. That's why I
love to sand Junipero back then Netflix and Black Mirror.
It's like, if they were to create this technology work,
you could technically just live forever. Right, you probably have
to pay a bunch of money and life insurance and
all this type of stuff. So no, I think I
think I would. I'm a man of science, you know, so,
but I don't think we're anywhere uh near that crickling.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't if it was.
Speaker 1: You just said you were. You say you would for
a bum knee. So if you're dying, what do you
mean I'm saying no? Oh you just you just smiled
when I said that. You just made it look like
you were saying no.
Speaker 3: But I was like, you know, you've heard of science.
Line threw me off. You know something of scientists myself,
I realized.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think I lean that way more to
spiritual stuff, as we talk about on GV Day. There's
just because I've had a lack of spiritual stuff. I've
never said it's not out there, but I've never had
that when Pizzella, you know, been touched by God or
had them out with Jesus or people that talk about
ghosts and shit like that, like I'm waiting.
Speaker 2: I'm ready, you know that, persons singing in the streets.
Speaker 5: I'm ready for these pot me to take you to
a haunted house.
Speaker 2: That's a different situation.
Speaker 5: But see, look at this guy. Yeah, we'll talk the talk,
won't walk the walk.
Speaker 2: But but I I described three good scenarios right.
Speaker 1: A ghost to me is like some community game from
the other side and a moment from God or jeez,
I on think they're coming down being like raw, like
those are moments like okay.
Speaker 5: That's find some demons.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be the person.
Speaker 1: But see that's where that's where I don't think that
pleads my case tore where I said, like, oh, there's
still parts of me that are not completely non spiritual,
and that pleads like I'm not gonna kick the horns nest.
I'm not saying I don't believe. Could I believe enough
to know I wouldn't want to go that situation. That's
the spiritual thing I get. That's the situation where you like,
don't want that.
Speaker 5: You can buy possessed alls on eBay and I'll buy
you one and you can put in your house.
Speaker 2: If you want. Why would I want one?
Speaker 5: Well, you have your moment with God.
Speaker 1: No, I think those movies they never get their moment
with God. They get their moments with fucking hail Satan.
Speaker 5: Well, I was reading a description of some of them,
and they have like some of them are friendly personalities
from the.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sure the good guys are fucking possessing bruise.
Speaker 1: It's a fucking guy. The big red horns. Here's a
big dick, and he's gonna like fucking make me not be.
Speaker 2: All the walk. That's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need some knee replacements after I get this
doll and like, hey, bend over.
Speaker 5: I totally make the jump though I have a few
more kids. I just worried about being a se.
Speaker 3: That you're taking.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, give me the deer heads.
Speaker 2: If you would take a deer head. I'm not taking
a deer.
Speaker 5: Legs, but look at those legs that you get. No,
I have a body like that, and then you just
have to have a deer head.
Speaker 2: You couldn't keep a bye like that because you don't
go to the gym. So that's the problem if you
if you have that with that muscle and you let.
Speaker 5: The tear eight but it's a robot, Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Okay, So if it's something I take the deer head off,
then give me cat.
Speaker 5: You want a body like well, then I don't want that.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be a deer head. I'll die.
I'm good.
Speaker 1: Just let me, you know, just give me a good grave,
you know, or freeze me until we figure out the
dear head situation. Yeah, uh, here we were talking about
the well because you said if we were do right,
because we're talking about the moving over, we're talking to
the brother and sister dynamic.
Speaker 2: And anyways, my last one is.
Speaker 1: Just I'm happy that that that story's already done, that
they know each other, and they said, I think that
should be like a good bonding storyline and you know,
face storyline, all that type of stuff. So as long
as he's not just fucking decapitated come episode three, I'm
excited to see them. Glad we didn't get like like
over half a season of like is she gonna tell
him she's brother? Because we've seen shows do that all
the time. It's like, no, get to the this is
an interesting storyline. Get to the meat potatos of it now.
Speaker 3: And here we are reminded me of what was it
Apocalypse at the end there?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, two movies were quick Silver. It's like, maybe
I should tell him and he.
Speaker 1: Never does, and then you and then you get fucking
Dark Phoenix where his legs broken the first act.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, he's not even in this movie. S
doesn't mean we've seen that in many.
Speaker 1: Franchises where they go, we got this really interesting, but
let's just let's keep delaying, let's build it up, and
then the anticipation it dies.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah, I already mentioned my my complaint
with the plot armor on that character. One with the
chase scene where he ends up in the elevator which
is like the fastest closing elevator uh in the world,
able to get away from the xenomorph there obviously gets
football tackled out of the window. That we haven't seen
his fit yet, so maybe he just shredded to bits
like I think he should be. Also, like you know,
I don't know all the facts, but I'm pretty sure
like these these xenomorphs, like they're a light I would
imagine they're like, no thousand pounds, just just the impact,
even if it didn't have blades or teeth or anything, like,
just tackling this this fragile, frail individual down.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe looked at were they in like tons
or something like that.
Speaker 5: Do I know how much they weigh?
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: Over a thousand pounds.
Speaker 5: Specifically, the common warrior type typically weigh four hundred six
hundred pounds, Okay.
Speaker 2: Less than a thousand, but the queens they are like
tons I think or something like that.
Speaker 4: It's like the biggest football's foot football linebacker with a
lot of equipment. But anyways, he gets tackled out the
window and then you know he's probably gonna be fine,
probably a couple of cuts next episode. But he also
Marrow shows up and dismantles a Xenomorph in a quicker
fashion than I think I've ever seen in the history
of like just alien in general, like even when the
Predators were fighting the Aliens. Actually, no, I take that back,
because there's one seguence. I think Wolf like just sliced
the whole head of a xenomorph off, which was pretty badass,
and then you know, the Predators, Yeah, come on, now,
do my research for the new movie. But yeah, I
like it's one thing for him to just like tase
this the xenomorph, And I'm also telling myself like, oh,
this is a very specific weapon that is like meant
for this, because he also cocoons him afterwards, you know,
makes a little sack dragging the xenomorph out out the door.
Speaker 3: It's like, what's in there?
Speaker 4: Oh, just just supplies looking like the most sketchiest man
ever when find.
Speaker 2: Big weird girls fish skin net, you know.
Speaker 4: But fucking Joe the Hermit gets like chess blasted by
the same gun that takes out the Xenomorph, and.
Speaker 3: He's like, like, you know, he's he's not dead and out,
like like he's.
Speaker 4: Getting up quicker than the Xenomorph is like are you
fucking kidding me? Like, why are we getting hybrids? We
can just have Joe the hermit. That's like the most
durable thing in existence. That that it was like more
than a triple whammy of just pretting back to back.
This guy is just invulnerable, and that one was very
very much bugging me. And I also just didn't like
him in the first episode. I grew on him a
little bit more in the second episode when we do
get the meet up with Wendy. So, yeah, I'm hoping
just having the two of them together. I'm assuming for
the rest of the season they'll be they'll be together.
Maybe there'll be another moment where they kind of separate,
but yeah, hoping I'm able to enjoy their story somewhat so.
Speaker 3: And the plot armor is a little little egregious. I
think it needs to be town down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I didn't even think about that whole
laser thing, but you're completely right.
Speaker 4: It was like it reminded me of in the Matrix,
went fucking Cipher, what the hell you're supposed to be dead?
Speaker 3: That he takes it to the chest.
Speaker 5: There's a similar looking weapon, I will say in his
defense because I was kind of curious about that. The
shot that he shoots on the alien is like a
solid beam and then he does like a quick tap
of it on Hermit's So it's sure he should at.
Speaker 3: Least be bald or so you should be looking like
this after that laser beam hit him.
Speaker 2: I saw him?
Speaker 3: You saw him today?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the villain in that Head of State movie
that Johnson and iders Elbow won. Even Johnson is a president. Yeah,
he just Brandoly pops up. He's the Russian bad guy
in it.
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, there's is he good?
Speaker 3: Patty? That's his name, right?
Speaker 2: No one's good in the movie. The best one in
that movie is like, are you guys are gonna see this?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Jack Quaid has a surprise camera and he's probably the
best one. He's like a fanboy john Sincas johnsona plays
a movie star turned president.
Speaker 2: He's like a fanboy of him. And there's just this
moment where they're like, Oh, what are we gonna do?
He's like, Oh, don't worry, I got it. And then
he walks out the door and he just turns like
John Wick and just like is a complete.
Speaker 1: Badass and like what the fuck you? Like the whole
five minute setup is like he's a loser, nerd guy.
And then it's like he's like a mega Like don't
fuck he's all these guns and stuff.
Speaker 2: So that's it.
Speaker 1: There's a my review of Head say, perfectly fine, two
point five out of five right there.
Speaker 5: So Travis Salen queen didn't care about ten tons.
Speaker 2: I knew someone was tons.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I'm sure this guy could have taken
him with their hands on the face by the alien Queen.
Speaker 2: All right, anything else that we missed her? I've covered
the score.
Speaker 3: I like the score.
Speaker 5: There's some good beats.
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe I need to re listen.
Speaker 4: It wasn't anything topping as much as maybe I was
hoping for, because I think that first Alien is like
one of the best just sound design in general. So
I maybe had my expectations a little bit too high.
And you know, there's some glimpses of like maybe in
the more tense moments that did they did stand out
a little bit, but.
Speaker 5: The credit music doesn't stand out to me.
Speaker 3: I don't like it that much.
Speaker 2: I'm indifferent. I'm like some stuff. Yeah, you know, anything
else so far?
Speaker 5: What do you guys think about the other alien species
or anything that you like? Like the eyeball thing and
like the mosquito.
Speaker 1: They stand that's fine, I like, so I need to
wait and see what they do with them. If it's
just kind of those two things, the like, Okay, I
just don't want every episode vehicle and there's this, and
there's this, Like I'm I'm there for the Xeno morph
and I get it because it's a TV show and
its long, so we gotta spread out at the same time.
Speaker 2: Don't think the bug ones looked the greatest. I thought
the cat looked.
Speaker 1: All right in the light and they had it, you know, Yeah,
I questionable once it stepped out a little bit.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It didn't didn't do much for me because I know
we're not getting like the Bug movie or anything like that.
So I'm not there for the bug.
Speaker 3: What are you? I uh, how do I feel about it?
Kind of in the middle. I don't know. Yeah, I
don't know. How to feel about it.
Speaker 4: I'm also like in my mind, like I imagine there's
a lot of a lot more species on the ship
than we saw, and it's like, man, like, what is
this kind of worms of Like are they just gonna
maybe not find all of them and they're just gonna
be on Earth now going forward? Like like you know,
some three legged eyeball thing gets gets through the cracks
and it's just just spreading its seed on Earth now.
I mean you were pitching it earlier on like you
think maybe the final resting place for the Zeno is
going to be in that Paradise area, Like that would
just mean that there's a xenomorph on Earth from the
time that like Ripley's doing her whole adventure in the
future and beyond, Like I don't know, maybe maybe that
is going to be the case, but.
Speaker 3: And I don't know if that's a positive or negative.
Speaker 4: Thinking that of just there's gonna be aliens species living
on this world. I mean it's in the future already,
it's a sci fi universe. I don't know why that
would be an issue for me, But as of right now,
I feel mixed on that whole ordeal. So I am
curious how much of an emphasis there is going to
be on those little subspecies that's not just the Zeno,
because I kind of thought, because we were introduced to
them like before, well before the research vessel like crashes
on Earth and like that, one lady's doing her research
and I'm seeing these new types. I'm like, Okay, these
are going to be kind of our side bosses before
we meet the Zeno. But the Xeno is popping off
from the gift go, So I don't really know how
much of a place the gonna have now beyond the Zene.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess what's his what's his name?
Speaker 4: Morrow did give those two guys a pretty brutal death
of just zip tying them there, and then.
Speaker 2: He didn't even need to do that, he could just
knock them out.
Speaker 4: It was basically us, you know, final hours of the
GV day of on on the patio there, just getting
slurped on by mosquitos.
Speaker 3: I think it was we were chained down in that spot.
Speaker 5: I think it was him trying to keep them locked
up in there for a reason of keeping the invasive
species other aliens actually like staying on this ship there,
you know.
Speaker 2: Close the door to that's sucking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have fucking sowd's that coming my arms while
you sacrificing the two guys just doing their job here,
you know.
Speaker 5: Just a touchback on the Zeno being possibly left on
the Neverland island the Prodigies kind of turf, I think
if we're going to see if the general theme here
of the way and Utani trying to go into their
territory get the Zeno or get something and then bounce back,
but it's obviously not gonna work, and that's why they
then try and the alien movies. So I think them
keeping an alien alive on that Progigy island is smart
if that's the last thing, and then they can kind
of pull from that possibility in the future if they
want to dock another alien movie or something that takes
place on Earth, or another Season two or something with hey,
there's a Zeno still here, and whaling a Tany is
going to go and try and get it again, who knows.
I think that's just kind of a cool thing to
have in your back pocket if you were to jump ahead,
maybe like what we're going to do is show after
the events of Aliens, and it's going to touch back
on Earth where one of these things is still kicking
around there again, they have time they can jump with.
It's not like an alien is going to get old age.
They last for a long long time. And the other
thing too, Oh what was it I was gonna mention
that's gone. Fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be curious to see what we because obviously
they're doing the wrongless sequel, and then I think we
kind of figured that they're gonna do like an AVP three,
and I'll be very curious to see if they ever
go past Alien Resurrection, like do a sequel, not saying
you have to get Ripleys everything. And that's why I
would recommend if they actually do an Alien Versus pread
or movie, is that's where you can because even the
first aavps those were prequels, right, so it's like go
for But I don't know if they're gonna I think
they might do the full Dark Times thing and be like, hey,
this is where we want to play. We don't want
to go past the original four but which is weird
because like not like Ridley directed that fourth one. That's
when they were doing stuff without them, right, So yeah,
we'll see, but uh, holt, there you go laisho. And
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it will.
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