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for you. We know who we're playing in the NCAA tournament.

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We're gonna be breaking it down the Longhorns, Baby Texas.

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When you think Texas, what do you think about Cougarnation

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Do you think about the Longhorn leap. BYU has stuck

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a two Texas on the football field in the last

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decade or so, But Texas also gotten b YU back

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on the gridiron. On the hardwood, b YU has maybe

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struggled against Texas. We'll get into a couple of things

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and we're gonna be breaking down that Texas NC State game.

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this Wednesday, March eighteenth edition of March Maddness edition of

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architect up the show producing for us. Liz Welcome in

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Ronald the three man Weaver. What's up, Ronnie? What up?

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Speaker 1: Look? We all thought that they would play Texas. That's

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who they're playing. But I'll say this though, Ben, I

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was not entertained into the last five minutes. I was bored,

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almost fell asleep. I was agitated by other stuff. And

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then the last five minutes they made me sit up.

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In the last two minutes, I got off my couch

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and I went down the hallway and I said, those

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are tough buckets, but that ptty much sums up the

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game last night. That's the only game been last night

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that I feel like you could actually watch the highlights

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and it would tell you what actually happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I watched this game and you

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could tell. I mean, Texas was less than efficient offensively.

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NC State the first go around when they played I mean,

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it was a high flying, high scoring game, right and

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and and this game was the opposite of that. You

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saw a lot of great, good defense, but not a

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whole lot of bucket making, with a lot of misses

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and you know, contested shots, yes, but missshots, missed opportunities,

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and you felt that Texas probably should have won by

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ten plus points. But she n C State came roaring

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back man and they got some tough buckets, got to

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some shots in one of the best three point shooting teams,

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and Texas was able to hold them off and stiff

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arm him from surviving and advancing. Texas moves on. And

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we had predicted here at Espen the Fan that Texas

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wrong athletic, physical, and a really good team. So there

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next in that round of sixty four game. How are

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you feeling right now? What's your level of confidence? Kugarnation,

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let's broke and welcome into the show. Brett Hammer, Brett

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I avenue nickname today. By the way, what is case?

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Speaker 3: Y'all hadn't heard somebody on my YouTube said that I

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be for this height. So I just kind of use

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my body in a way that's not super athletic, but

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Speaker 1: He talked like that.

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Speaker 2: You know, Luca is much more athletic than he give

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and Luca. We both we look at it. You we

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Cheez bigger, Che's bigger. Yeah. You and Andy Reid love

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them cheese burgers. Whenever you get the dubs, whenever you

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have to win. Brett always bringing the hammer by my side.

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We got a great show for you. We gotta start

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the Texas NCU state game, so stay tuned for that.

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dot com com. Don't miss that. Kelly Pipingo addressed the

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media as well yesterday, we'll get into that. Darnell Dixon

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for a Cougar Beat at four thirty, and then David Nixon,

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So a lot of football, a lot of basketball, and

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I have to clarify. Side hustling. He loves them Longhorns.

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It's like every everybody's everybody's got a side hustle. Everyone's

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hard enough, you lazy piece of you know. I mean,

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I'm just playing. Hey, if you have the time, side hustle.

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Jaylen Brown not the Celtics ball player, but uh, men's

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so tram Mark hit a nice fadeaway jumper from just

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inside the three point lineup, beautifully executed fade away left

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handed with one point one seconds left. This thing was

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cardiac to the max. We we had heightened quartisol levels.

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lively with it. At any rate, Texas survived a late

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rally to beat NC State sixty eight sixty six on

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last six games these they were not playing good basketball,

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Mark scored seventeen points to leave the Longhorns, who are

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now nineteen fourteen on the year, and Texas moved into

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the bracket as the eleven seed in the West Region

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to face the BYU Cougars at that sixth seed on

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Thursday night in Portland. So they got to take a trip,

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right they have to take their talents out to Portland.

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Oregon coach Sean Miller a very very good coach. We're

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very very familiar with his game. BYU has faced Sean

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Miller in the past. Coach Sean Miller's Longhorn Longhorns are

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typically talented, right, he recruits extremely well. So they are talented,

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they are long, they are athletic, they are physical, and

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BAU by any means. But guys, I saw this game

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as two talented teams that that just couldn't buy a bucket.

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was in control for most of the game, as Ronald

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pointed out, a little bit boring. They just weren't hitting shots, right,

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they just weren't hitting shots. But BYU, I think matches

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Texas Longhorn versus NC State wolf Pack matchup. What did

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Speaker 3: I didn't get I missed most of this game and

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my phone was off, so I didn't know anything that

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Speaker 2: And I come out and.

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Speaker 3: I see a text from Ron and he's like, bro,

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this game is a bleep believe like it is not good.

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This is so trash, and I was like, dang man.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, holy cow, that was like a really bad

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Speaker 2: Mission Impossible too, honestly, with the motorcycles at the.

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Speaker 3: End, great ending, incredibly horrible first three quarters. The one

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tournament last year. So my hope is from last night,

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Speaker 3: As for the game itself, I wonder based on the

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struggles early in the game last night, and look, both

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of these teams shot horrifically from three yeah twenty six

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for sixteen for NCI State and five of seventeen for Texas,

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they did make, came in the final minutes when it

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was just Haymaker after Haymaker. It makes me a little

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nervous for BYU, because it makes me wonder, is this

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gonna be one of those tournaments where everybody has got

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to find a way to get their feet underneath them,

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and everybody is starting slow.

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Speaker 2: And Texas walks into this game.

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Speaker 3: With a little bit of an advantage because they have

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already played a game. And it's so interesting when we

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talk about rest, right because rest you can really make

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out of it whatever you want it to be. You

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can have the same amount of games played and the

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same amount of timeframe, and you could say, oh, well,

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you know what, they haven't played for so long, so

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they're rested, they're ready to go, or you can completely

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flip it on its head and say, oh, you know what,

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they haven't played in forever. So it'll be really interesting

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to see if what the narrative is on Thursday night,

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if it's hey man, Texas played on Tuesday, so that's

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why they were able to take advantage of the BYU

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slow starts that they typically give.

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Speaker 2: I'm really fascinating to see how it goes.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, the hope is that there's none of that and

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that it's all much to do about nothing. I kind

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of like getting Texas, though, I we're being honest, I'd

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actually rather Texas than NC State because NC State in

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those final few minutes kind of reminded me of UCF

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a little bit, where you had a bunch of guys

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who like, if you give them an inch, they'll take

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a mile. In terms of just making ridiculous shots. They

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have a lot of individual elite performers, whereas I felt

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like Texas was more playing through a system than they

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were isoball, and I feel more comfortable by you taking

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on a team in a system than I do a

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bunch of guys who can isoball you and go get

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their shot whenever they want. Not that I think Texas

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is going to be an easy win by any shot,

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but I think I would rather give the edge to

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wanting Texas from that standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Ronnie, give me your thoughts. What did you learn about

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Texas in this matchup? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Look, they got they got grit, right, Ben, and they

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didn't give up. I mean, like bridge Bred just pointed out.

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N C State McNeil junior hit two the most probably

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contested threes I've seen in a long time with the

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guy in his face, probably the best defense he can

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play without fouling, which is tough to do, and he

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knocks him down. Then a guy that the all b

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A fans don't like. Remember my Twitter post, Ben, Yeah,

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I was talking to Ish and got him forgot. Darren

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Williams hits one. You're like, is Texas gonna blow this?

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And I said, please, don't blow this a BYU has

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to play n C State team that's a veteran team

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that just needs one ball to go in to get confident.

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I was like, please don't, and then Texas end up winning.

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So I learned that Texas has grit. But you don't

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want to put him at the free throw line. Ben,

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That's what you don't want to do because they'll they'll

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make a lot of free throws. NC State put him

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at the line way too much last night. They shot

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twenty nine free throws Ben, twenty nine, twenty one. So

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that's gonna be an issue for Byu. Uh because look,

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when you struggle a gardener three in the past. And

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this is talking about the season as a whole. This

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is not the last week and a half, Ben, but

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as a whole, that could shape its face and Texas

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could be shooting a lot of free throws. Don't think

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that would be the case, but just want to point

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that out for BYU. And look, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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be honest. You have to do everything you can to

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stop Swaying. He's the best player on this team. Ben.

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I know only shot two of nine, but he hit

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eight of nine free throws, So I think Texas is

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your best matchup. They turn the ball over quite a

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bit last night, Ben, and then again, like I said

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a couple of days ago, they foul a lot. They're

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big man, uh he foiled out of the game, and

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then they had two other dudes in foul trouble with four.

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So that's the team that you want to face because

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they're long. If they have to guard Aj Ben and

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they are a step too slow and AJ gets them

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in foul trouble, which I assume that's what is gonna

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be on the game plan, then you have to when

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they when Sean Miller has to go to this bench,

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she doesn't want to do that. So I like Texas

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facing Bou won't be an easy matchup by any means.

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They open up I think as a two and a

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half point favorite, as BYU. But I like this matchup Ben.

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I think they can compete. But I will say this,

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Kabe and Hadeem have their work cutout though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you guys both bring up some really good points.

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You know. I'll start from the back end here. Texas

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fouls a ton. They're like three hundredth in the country.

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Like with team fouls, they are almost eclipsing twenty fouls

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per game twenty so AJ that bowes well for a

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J Botes, well, for Rob Wrightkennard Davis, anyone that's putting

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it off the putting it on the on the on

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the hardwood, off the bounce, they're they're gonna they're gonna foul.

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What I thought was interesting, So that's kind of like

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the pro for BYU right now. What I thought was

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interesting is Texas has been horrific in three point defense

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all season long. But and look, NC State actually shot

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their percentage at thirty eight percent. NC State's one of

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the best three point shooting teams in the country. They're

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top ten guys, They're a top ten three point shooting team.

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They only took nineteen, i think shots from the three

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point line last night though, or sixteen sixt they took sixteen, okay,

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and they shot thirty eight percent. Texas was running them

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off the perimeter. They were not allowing three point shots

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in volting.

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Speaker 3: Actually even though shots. At the end of the game,

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you heard Charles Barkley say, like Texas actually defended them

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really well well minutes they just made those three. So

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they were three of thirteen going into that final shot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. So I'm like, okay, Like Texas is like

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one of the worst three point defenses in the country.

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Ken Palm puts them their overall defensive efficiency at like

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ninety fifth. So you know, if you look at the

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Ken Palm, you're like, this is gonna be one hundred

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to one hundred. And remember the first Texas NC state

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matchup was like one oh two to ninety five or

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ninety seven. Texas ended up winning that game. It was

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like a freaking frenetic race to one hundred. It was insane,

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and both teams shot lights out. This one was a

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little bit defense, a little bit difference. The defense really

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stepped up. So I think that Texas has their March

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madness hats on, and I think you're gonna play better

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defense versus versus bright Now, I still think they're gonna foul. Luckily,

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for BYU, they're not three YU this year, meaning they

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don't have to really heavily rely on the three point

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shot to win ball games and to get into the

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eighty point threshold songs. They play defense. They play some

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good defense, yeah exactly. But like that's that's what makes

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me optimistic that they can uh they can match tit

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for tat what Texas is bringing down offensively and not

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have to be heavily reliant on the three. But look,

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if they're not closing out, depending on how defense how

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Texas is scouting BYU, I mean they may not. They

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may allow BYU to take shots from the perimeter. They

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may allow things of that nature. They may double, they

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may blitch, they may allow for Alexi in Canard to

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get shots, and you just hope that they can keep

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them honest. The reason why Texas was so effective is

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because they scouted NC State. They were well familiar with

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their game, and so they were closing out a whole lot.

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They only allowed thirteen three point shots in this up

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until those final writing moments where they were more forced

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within those half court sets. NC State was forcing those

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three point shots because they had to get back into

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the game. Ronald, your thoughts here, Yeah, you think.

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Speaker 1: You bring up a good point. I think Brett would

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want to get his thoughts as well. If you talk

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about it, and this is specifically about the scout, let

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me make sure I clarify what I'm in preface, what

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I'm gonna say. If the scout and they new NC

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State haven't played them. That's why the game was low scoring.

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The scal for Bilia is gonna be what don't let

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the bounce and get to the free throw line of that?

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So I have to think that because they closed out

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so hard, there's gonna be some lack of discipline at

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times with Canard and a Lexi and leaving those guys open.

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So those guys, like you said, Ben are going to

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have to hit shots and keep and it can Texas

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keep him? Honest, I don't know, because if you close

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out and throw four, if you throw three or four

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it Aj and then Canard and Alexi, youre hdding, what

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has that dude been? Now the defense has to play

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one on one because you can't leave them open. So yeah,

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I think I did that. I was gonna say, if

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I'm Kevin, yeah, I agree with but I think you

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have to. If I'm Kevin young, Aj and Rob can

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get going whenever they need to Ben. This is what

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it is for me. Get Canard an Alexi play, get

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both of them on the floor. If you want to

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go with Mihilo for spacing and size, I understand that,

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but then Mahilo, Canard and Alexi have to get going.

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Like right away in the first four minutes where they

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have to have two threes, and then Shauna is like, Okay,

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that's not gonna work. We can't sell out on number three, Noney,

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we have to go back, like you have to force

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the coach to make an adjustment because then when Aj

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is getting down here and getting in foul trouble, Texas

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will be at by you have metro mercy. But I

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think that's what has to happen at three point shot.

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I think it is going to be critical been in

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the first ten minutes to play tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing about what you're saying, Ron is like,

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if you so, like pretend we're a Texas show and

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we're saying, hey, how does texts beat BYU?

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Speaker 2: And you're saying, well, we know we foul a.

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Speaker 3: Lot because uh Vokatitis fouled out last night, and we

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know that Aj Debonsa has been playing in the Big

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twelve where he's frankly been underfouled, and he's gonna be

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in the NCAA tournament against the team who fouls a lot.

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Speaker 2: Our options are either we either have to pull a little.

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Speaker 3: Bit back and let them shoot as to not send

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guys to the free throw line, or we just go

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all out on everybody and we make AJ beat us

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at the line. And if you're telling me that as

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a BYU guy, either one of those, I'm like I

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can live with, because there's no way you're gonna say, well,

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we're just not gonna do either. We're just gonna play

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really great defense without fouling, and we're not gonna send

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AJ to the line. That just doesn't seem like it's

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in your DNA, especially when we're talking about a team

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with a high propensity for fouling, which equates to lower discipline.

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Speaker 2: You don't get rid of that. Do you think the

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SEC is a little bit more whistle happy than the

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Big twelve? And what are we getting in the NCAA

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tournament in Portland? I don't know if that's been announced yet.

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Who are reffing crew is going to be? Is it,

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you know, is it a conglomerate of Big twelve SEC?

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Is it a West Coast Conference crew? Is it a

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neutral crew? You know what I mean? That that's going

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to be determinant. That's going to be a determinate factor.

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Vokatitis went to the free throw line six times last night. Yeah,

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and I think what we don't may not know who

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the officials are.

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Speaker 3: But the bottom line is it's going to be more forgiving,

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I believe than Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: If it's not, then it's an anomaly and it is

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what it is. You live with it.

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Speaker 3: But my guess is, and also these refs, these refs

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don't know AJ. Yeah, and I'm sure they do Scout.

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I'm sure they do their research and everything. But like,

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I think there was some meeting at Big twelve HQ

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that says, hey, man, don't let AJ take advantage of

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getting to the free throw line. I think AJ is

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playing smarter basketball now where he's not playing two get foul.

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That just happens to be the case. That was who

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he was earlier in the season. It would be really

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if we're sitting here on Friday and we're like, how

472
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today a J only take eight free throws, I think

473
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I'll be really shocked. I'd be willing to bet money

474
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against Yeah.

475
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Speaker 2: If the over under stid eight, I'm picking the over, guys.

476
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And the reason being is because I don't know if

477
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you were here when we were talking about this. I

478
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put on my conspiracy theories at like very rarely I've

479
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been doing this show and I've been a part of

480
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Cougar Nation since two thousand and five. I started doing

481
00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:31,799
this show in two thousand. Well, I've been Sports Rader

482
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two thousand and eight and then the show eleven twenty twelve.

483
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Up until this point, there really has been little to

484
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no advocacy in the sports sports media world, of the

485
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conference affiliation world. There's been little no advocacy for BYU

486
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as an entity. Athletic directors like BYU, but those aren't

487
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power brokers of the sport. Does that make sense? They

488
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:58,480
like BAU because they'll sell tickets and everybody, they'll fill

489
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the stadium always, But we we've had very like, very rarely.

490
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J T mentioned this too when he was putting out

491
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his prognostication, because it's been a real thing every single year.

492
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Whatever your potential seating is, if you're a sixty your

493
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five seat, you're getting the seed drop and you're going

494
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to the Thursday Saturday matchup that you and you're and

495
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they're trying to won in Dunia. The Committee's trying to

496
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win in Dunia. This is the first time I think,

497
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I mean maybe like you can make an argument for

498
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like the Dushane like that was that that was a

499
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,079
good match. We shot we should have won that game,

500
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that du Shane game. But other than that, like I

501
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,720
always feel like this is like one of the first

502
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okay where you actually had an advocate and they're like,

503
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we gotta have jj AJ survive in advance. We gotta

504
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have And so I believe the whistles will come. I

505
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really do. And I think the nc double A and

506
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the power brokers, the puppeteers of the sports entertainment were

507
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they want and need AJ to get to a Sweet sixteen,

508
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and they gave a pathway for it to be attained.

509
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Speaker 3: The tournament does best when it's superstar against superstar or

510
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big brand against big brand eat it. So I think

511
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if the NCAA could pick, I think they would take

512
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this year BYU over Purdue because as.

513
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Speaker 2: Great as well they want that Bau Purdue game.

514
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Speaker 3: But I'm saying I think they would even take BYU

515
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over that because as cool as Purdue is, Braden Smith

516
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,920
is not the name that AJ Debonta is. Because if

517
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you're trying to market the NCAA Tournament, this is the

518
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easiest year to say, man, we have superstars all over

519
00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:50,920
this thing. Arizona has two first round picks projected to

520
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go in the top twenty. Like everybody on this tournament

521
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,680
has a superstar. We want to make this thing the

522
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tournament of superstars.

523
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Speaker 2: And and that's why they obviously would.

524
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Speaker 3: Want BYU to win because the further AJ goes, the

525
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further people talk about the tournament, the NBA people are

526
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:09,160
now watching who don't normally.

527
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Speaker 2: Watch college basketball.

528
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Speaker 3: This is the easiest year if you're the NCIBULA to

529
00:26:13,519 --> 00:26:15,880
market this tournament, and it's because of guys like.

530
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Speaker 2: A Give them the whistles. Give them the whistles. If

531
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,720
it's a foul, it looks like a foul, it smells

532
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:26,680
like a foul, it sounds like a foul. Is a foul. Okay,

533
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,160
if we hear it, that's a foul. A thud, a swipe,

534
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,519
a laceration, a bump, a flick at arrest, you know

535
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:39,559
what I mean, all of it. Give me that whistle.

536
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,680
Get them to the free thrown at least ten. At

537
00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:46,160
least ten, That's what I think my I put it.

538
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,079
I think it'll be twelve.

539
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: That's where I if I had to bet on the dot,

540
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I think it'll be twelve.

541
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, BYU Texas will continue to scout this Texas team.

542
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As I mentioned earlier this week, Texas on the season

543
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,519
forty second in net and then in Ken Palm they

544
00:27:09,519 --> 00:27:16,880
were thirty seven, so ninety fifth defensively inefficiency eighteenth offensively.

545
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,599
So they've been a high powered offensive team all season long.

546
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:25,160
In their Quad one in Quad two games, if you

547
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,359
haven't looked at their resumes, six and nine in Quad

548
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,839
one opportunities, their best wins neutral site, NC State away,

549
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:39,079
versus Alabama home game, versus Vanderbilt, Oklahoma away. They won

550
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,599
on away away course. That's what's so crazy to me,

551
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:47,000
Miszoo away, Texas and Texas A and M away. Now

552
00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:50,279
you wonder, is the SEC overrated by the way, they're

553
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:53,240
one in four in Quad two games. So they pooped

554
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:55,839
the bed a little bit in their Quad two opportunities

555
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,680
neutral home games, they just weren't that. They just weren't

556
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,960
as good. They did get a win versus Georgia, but

557
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,000
they lost Arizona State, they lost to Texas A and M.

558
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:08,160
They lost Oklahoma and Ole Miss Okay. So that's the

559
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,759
resume of Texas. We'll continue to break it down. Please,

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When you hear that song, what do you ponder? What

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do you think about?

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Speaker 3: Takes me back, Ben, takes me back to the year

602
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twenty eleven, twenty twelve. I went to Walmart with my

603
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aunt to pick up my first copy of NBA two

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K NBA two K twelve with Michael Jordan on the cover,

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and this is the opening songs. Every time you boot

606
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it up, You Got Basketball is my favorite, and so

607
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the whole wrap, the whole thing. And yeah, I mean

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I think from that point on I can tell you

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that the opening song to every two K. So yeah,

610
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shout out to that song because it takes me back

611
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to being in high school.

612
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Speaker 2: I feel like all the band of the days they

613
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take me back, So I appreciate it. Hey, yeah, buddy,

614
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,640
appreciate Brett always bringing the hammer being by my sat Ronald,

615
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,759
the three man weaver behind the glass. We're gonna get

616
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into a few commentaries here in our Band of the

617
00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:00,960
day Question of the day, Say, man, what's your level

618
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,519
of confidence as you get into the NCAA Tournament with

619
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:06,759
this bou men's basketball team. I feel like we've had

620
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:10,079
the undulations, the ups and downs, the Jekkolin hiding of

621
00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:13,400
it all. But BYU against tournament teams, I was pulling

622
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,440
some data. Right, you got one one seed that you've

623
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,799
faced in Arizona a couple of times. Right, you have

624
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,480
a couple of two seeds in Yukon, Houston, Iowa State.

625
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:26,400
You've seen so much Kansas, A four seed, Wisconsin and

626
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,240
Texas Tech five seeds. You're seven through ten seeds. You

627
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:32,160
got Miami, Villanova, Clemson, TC, and UCF and then a

628
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,240
thirteen seed in cal Baptists. So you've been through the

629
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:39,319
refining fire eight and eight versus tournament teams. What's your

630
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,079
level of confidence right now heading into the NCAA tournament

631
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,440
Hammer Time Show and then Ronnie get your give me

632
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:44,920
your thoughts.

633
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,359
Speaker 3: I'll be confident based off of how BYU plays Texas.

634
00:31:50,359 --> 00:31:52,839
Like what version of the team are we getting? Are

635
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:55,400
we getting Big twelve tournament BYU? Because if that's the

636
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,400
BYU getting we're getting, then man, I think this team

637
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,279
can make a Sweet sixteen run. You know, maybe they

638
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,720
maybe they see Arizona, they get a get back. I

639
00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:07,960
don't know, but if that's the team we're getting, then

640
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,880
my confidence is probably at a seven seven and a half.

641
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:13,599
Speaker 2: If we're getting.

642
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 3: UCF, BYU Baylor, BYU West Virginia BUYU.

643
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: Then I'm really not confident at all.

644
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,079
Speaker 3: What I will say is I feel like this team

645
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:28,160
has gone through phases, They've gone through eras, and frankly,

646
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:31,720
if we're being honest, we only have one year of

647
00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:33,920
sample size to work off with Kevin Young and that's

648
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,000
last year. Don't we feel like Kevin Young did his

649
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:40,400
best coaching and his team played their best basketball closer

650
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,119
to March.

651
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,319
Speaker 2: Than they did the beginning of the season.

652
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: Yes, So all of that makes me think like if

653
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,480
we were sitting here on a Wednesday, March eighteenth, and

654
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:53,359
boy had gotten run out of the gym in the

655
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:55,759
first round of the Big Twelve Tournament, I don't think

656
00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:58,000
I'd be able to say that. I think Kevin Young

657
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,000
can replicate what he did last year. But given the

658
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:04,359
run that they went on at during that Big Twelve Tournament,

659
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,200
that makes me think, Okay, this is where Kevin WoT

660
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:11,000
Young was last year, albeit with less continuity on this

661
00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:15,279
team than he had last season. I think he can

662
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:17,359
figure it out. He told us he feels like he

663
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,480
does his best coaching whin his backs against the wall,

664
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and that is said by two groups of people, the

665
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,200
greatest procrastinators in the world who always say it never

666
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,559
do and some of the most successful people in the world.

667
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And I believe that Kevin Young is the latter. I

668
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:33,720
think Kevin Young is gonna do some of his best coaching.

669
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I think they're gonna find a way to get the

670
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:38,039
ball to aj Debonta as opposed to the final minutes

671
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of that Houston game.

672
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Speaker 2: But it all to me depends on what do we.

673
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Speaker 3: See against Texas on Thursday, Because like we said in

674
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the last segment, Texas has played a game, they got

675
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one under their belt. BYU, I guess has the rest.

676
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But however, BYU has had some notable slow starts throughout

677
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the season that really just left them kind of punching

678
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:02,599
air for a while hoping they could get back.

679
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,759
Speaker 2: Into the game. And some games they did, some games

680
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:05,480
they didn't.

681
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:09,199
Speaker 3: I think we will know, and maybe this is too

682
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,840
early to tell, but like I think we'll know in

683
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,639
the first ten minutes tomorrow what version of BYU were.

684
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: Getting So BYU fans shining in on this particular poll,

685
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,840
Trent Reid, my blue goggled friend akin to Braden day

686
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,519
of Odeon Mensworth says I shouldn't expect a national championship surprising.

687
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, you see me at a dobe.

688
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,239
Come on, Trent, I know you're listening. Come on, I

689
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:35,920
expect better.

690
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: I like my Sam Jacobs too, also a big friend

691
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,480
of the prom. Two and one against BAAS, two and

692
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,360
one against five seeds, five and one against seven through

693
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,880
thirteen seeds. We did beat a two seed and play

694
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,239
one seed to a one score game, So I think

695
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:53,719
we have as much of a chance as anyone b

696
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:59,239
yu's eight and eight versus NCAA tournament teams. So yeah,

697
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,159
you know what your love of confidence right now? I

698
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,760
I dude, I'm coming in pretty swaggy. I'll be honest,

699
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,800
I'm pretty confident, like like you know, like combining the talent,

700
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,800
right you hear K Why say things like we're too talented?

701
00:35:13,159 --> 00:35:18,599
I had to simplify. It's the simplification longer, harder, faster, stronger,

702
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,559
down to get the friction on or it's happening anyway.

703
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,800
I take that into account, right, I take him to

704
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,960
the account. Like, like I said, my conspiracy theory of

705
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,159
like finding a path for BYU to get to a

706
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:35,039
Sweet sixteen and maybe even an elite eight. I think

707
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:37,800
they're gonna call the game differently for aj who has

708
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,639
not gotten as many whistles. It's been it's been infrequent.

709
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,119
It's been up and down. Sometimes he gets a call,

710
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:46,920
sometimes he doesn't. You know, he gets bodied a lot,

711
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:49,920
and he can absorb that. The thing is for being

712
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,440
as swelt as he is, he actually he absorbs energy

713
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:55,920
pretty well. And maybe that's one of the reasons. If

714
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,960
he was lebron a bitch, excuse me, Lebron James, then

715
00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:02,960
and then you know, he'd probably get more calls, right

716
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:06,440
and he'd either the the flop the lebron a flop

717
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:10,239
La flop James. He just needs to flop more. I

718
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,280
don't know. Maybe he'll get those calls. I think he

719
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,639
will get those calls in the n C Double A tournament,

720
00:36:14,679 --> 00:36:16,360
is what I'm getting at. Yes, I agree, I don't

721
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,320
think flopping more is the way to go. But other

722
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:18,920
than that, I do.

723
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,079
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no to flop here debansa flop

724
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:26,800
flops the flops. So there I like that, bro the FLOPSA.

725
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,159
Speaker 2: That's a aj deosa a p.

726
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,519
Speaker 1: If you're listening to put that out there, aj De

727
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:36,239
FLOPSA no Ben, Look, I think a J will and

728
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,760
he does do a great job of absorbing contact. I think,

729
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:42,639
like you both said, he's gonna get calls in Texas

730
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:44,519
when you folll out like that, and look, Brett always

731
00:36:44,519 --> 00:36:47,559
punts it out. These officials meet before they get together.

732
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,360
They know that Texas foul fouls. If AJ is in

733
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,119
a position they're shooting and they hammer him no pun intended,

734
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:55,320
then there he's going to get to the free throw line.

735
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,559
So I do believe that. I think the BAU team, Ben,

736
00:36:58,639 --> 00:37:00,840
I I'm I'm camp. You know, if we were to

737
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,519
pull out a poll of oh, you know, very confident, confident,

738
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,039
not confident on whatever we I'm confident. I think this

739
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:08,280
BYU team will do what he did in the Big

740
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,880
twelve tournament. And look, if they do what they did, Ben,

741
00:37:11,159 --> 00:37:14,280
that's two wins. That's that's that's sweet sixteen. That's above

742
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,519
quarter with the top king not playing now if he

743
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:19,159
was playing obviously, but let's say, you know, magic happens.

744
00:37:19,199 --> 00:37:21,280
You do get Purdue right, you know the behind the

745
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,360
scenes they want AJ in the Elite eight and you

746
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,000
get matched up with Arizona or John Calipower, you know, Arkas,

747
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:29,519
who knows what could happen, Ben, But if you get

748
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:30,840
do what you do in the Big twelve, you get

749
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,840
two wins, you lose to Purdue in the Sweet sixteen.

750
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,199
Brett just pointed it out. Let me re emphasize it

751
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,320
for people just tuning in, or if you want to

752
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,400
ignore it. This is the man's second year back to

753
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,159
bat Sweet sixteens. If that were to happen, you need

754
00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:45,079
to shake that man's hand. You need to you need

755
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,119
to buy his family ice cream. Just condonded that I'm

756
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:49,039
joking when I said it, but you need to be grateful.

757
00:37:49,079 --> 00:37:51,599
Sometimes people get a little greedy. And I think if

758
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:53,800
Kevin Young gets BYU to the Sweet sixteen again and

759
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,199
they get bounced, you gotta you gotta look at that like,

760
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:57,880
because then look at who they knocked off the last

761
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,280
two years to get there. A big team was onsin

762
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,280
Big Ten team who is really good and is playing

763
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,639
good basketball right now, and then Gonzaga who runs a

764
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,159
WCC who everybody says to join the Big twelve along

765
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:09,679
with Yukon. So in my opinion, I think, you know,

766
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,519
if that were to happen, after tip Mike hat to

767
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:14,280
Kevin Young and I have no I have no qualms.

768
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me give you a little snapshot here. I

769
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,360
am optimistic. I'm pretty swaggy heading into this. I think

770
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,719
b Lee gets to win. BA is twenty three and eleven.

771
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,199
Right Ken Palm their they're ranked twenty third. Their net

772
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,199
ranking is twenty third. Texas nineteen and fourteen. Ken Palm's

773
00:38:28,199 --> 00:38:31,320
thirty seventh, The net is forty second. Bou enterest this

774
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,280
game as a very very slight favorite at one and

775
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,239
a half. That's the spread right now, and ken Palm

776
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,719
is actually predicting a three point win for the Coup,

777
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:45,079
so about a sixty or so percent win probability. Texas,

778
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:49,119
who's a really good offensive team, and uh an a

779
00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:51,360
lead offensive team, I say as a as a top

780
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,079
twenty Ken Palm efficiency rating. They get heavy on the

781
00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:58,719
free throws too, top five free throw rate nationally. Uh

782
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,960
and they get second chance points. Remember the long athletic

783
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:09,519
you know, guys that have physicality. They if we're not

784
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:14,079
boxing out on the defensive rebounding game, like, we may

785
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:17,920
get bossed, we may get sauced, you know what I mean?

786
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:23,159
Like that. I chatted with a number of individuals over

787
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:26,159
the last forty eight hours and they said, Ben, if

788
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:29,079
we're having to play b too for a lot of

789
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:32,440
minutes in order to win, we're probably gonna lose. Does

790
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,920
that like in order to rebound who you may have

791
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,559
to play be Doo and he's really not an offensive

792
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:41,159
threat and he's an okay rebounder, but he's your only

793
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,119
close to seven footer out there, you know what I mean? So, uh,

794
00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:49,360
that's that's intriguing to me. B what who has improved

795
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,280
very very I think very well in the Big twelve

796
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:58,719
Big twelve tournament defensively, So we'll see how plays out.

797
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: But running your thoughts, ye, look and look I know

798
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,960
b Hammer time he does a lot of data. He

799
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:06,920
he takes your point of data points. We have multiple

800
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,719
data points, even Ben, I can't ignore it to beat

801
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,519
who struggling. This is what I'm going to say though,

802
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:13,400
And this is not just for for Bread, This is

803
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,280
for myself, just for you, Ben, because I don't want

804
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,119
to be frustrated at the television, but I feel like

805
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:23,760
I'm going to Kaba Kita, please stay out of foul trouble.

806
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,960
That is what's gonna happen if if if Keba gets

807
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,920
in foul trouble or hadeem beat, Who's going to play.

808
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,719
They have no choice. So I just I have to

809
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,920
point that out, Ben, I have to.

810
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: Botch My thing is. Let me couple that, And I

811
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,760
think you bring up a really good point there. We

812
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,079
don't have a back to the basket guy. That's that

813
00:40:41,079 --> 00:40:43,280
that puts and I always mess up his last name,

814
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,360
Modus is uh. You know, Modus gets to the foul

815
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,199
line a lot. But Voca titus vocatitis. He he gets

816
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:52,400
to the foul line a lot, and he also fouls

817
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,119
a lot. But where are we gonna A J's got

818
00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:57,920
to go right at him when he's under the rim

819
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,960
and go get fouled. Other I I don't know who's

820
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:04,239
drawing fouls for vocat.

821
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: It's not Rob. Rob's not gonna draw fouls on voc right.

822
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,119
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? So I'm like, okay, how do

823
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:12,480
you get him in foul trouble? Who is it besides

824
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:12,800
A J?

825
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: Canard? Uh goes up pretty you know, goes up pretty level.

826
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 2: And probably it's gotta be like two bags, you know,

827
00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:23,360
where where Caba is maybe getting after rebound, but we've

828
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,039
seen like seven footers get to Caba. Remember you of

829
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:29,760
a you know, sometimes a gay get the rebounds. You

830
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,920
know what I mean, with a big seven plus footer

831
00:41:32,039 --> 00:41:33,960
that has decent jumping ability.

832
00:41:33,639 --> 00:41:36,039
Speaker 1: It's a gonna found vocal Titus out and and by

833
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:39,199
the way, shout is the tightest because he couldn't say

834
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,000
vocal Titus last night.

835
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 3: It was an interesting call last night, by the way,

836
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,199
with Dick vital right, and I love both of those guys.

837
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: Just final minutes to the game. Again, five minutes of.

838
00:41:51,199 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: The game is great.

839
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: But I went back and I was listening to the

840
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,599
rest of the game. I was like, why are we

841
00:41:54,639 --> 00:41:58,280
talking about? Like how defen like the eighties than he did.

842
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,000
I'm like, what is going on?

843
00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: And they got political too. I was like, what in

844
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,480
the world now? Yeah, I was like, what are we doing?

845
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:06,800
I say, guys, focus on the game. But then you

846
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,440
know that's I'm not trying to be this way, but

847
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,880
that's how pp you know how you know, poor the

848
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,599
offense was. But in the last five minutes, like brid said,

849
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,280
there was no nothing else. Swain's got to take over.

850
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,880
He's got to be locked in all you can found

851
00:42:18,039 --> 00:42:19,639
like you know, but Voca Titus.

852
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: And by the way, Swain is their best all around

853
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,440
player seventy point eight points per game, seven point six rebounds,

854
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:25,480
three point four assists.

855
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: That dude is is the real deal? S interesting note

856
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,360
on Voca Titus ron just real quick. In his last

857
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,000
seven games he has had four more fouls. Yeah, so

858
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:40,199
this isn't like, hey man, this was an anomaly for him,

859
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:44,480
like seven and go back even further, like a majority

860
00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:46,400
of his games he has he finishes with four and

861
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,119
more fouls, and I think three of his last seven

862
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:52,519
he's fouled out. So there is a world with aj

863
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,639
that's not It doesn't even have to be an anomaly.

864
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,239
In fact, I'd probably say it's a forty chance that

865
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,719
Voca Titus fouls out of the game, especially when you're

866
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,320
having to stop a rim runner like AJ.

867
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 4: So.

868
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:08,159
Speaker 2: Texas is one of the best rebounding teams in the country,

869
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,760
especially on the offensive blast. There's seventeenth in the nation

870
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,079
and rebounding percentage right, so total rebounded percentage rebound rate

871
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:23,280
seventeenth BYU is forty four forty four not bad, right,

872
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,480
higher than honestly I think I would have expected, right,

873
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:28,079
because it feels like, I mean, there's times that k

874
00:43:28,159 --> 00:43:29,960
Why says like, hey, we're a pretty good rebounding team.

875
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,639
We're gonna have to be like you're gonna be chesselet

876
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,360
Richie was a huge part of that, So I'm really

877
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,840
watching that too. I mean, you have a disparity of

878
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,599
about you know, twenty spots there seventeen you know, seventeen

879
00:43:42,679 --> 00:43:44,679
forty four little more than that, about thirty spots. So

880
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,599
BYU gonna be tried. There's a reason why guys analysts

881
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:56,800
out there are picking an upset in this game. There

882
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:01,559
are talking heads and analysts and bracketeers and bracketologists and

883
00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:07,679
so called armchair basketball you know, analysts. They're gonna pick

884
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:13,039
this upset right because they still feel that BYU's a

885
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:15,800
mid major. Even though all the aj you know, all

886
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,599
the rob Riot, all the Transferport, all the Hullaballo, all

887
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:21,159
the articles, et cetera, they still view BYU as a

888
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,519
bit of a mid major. Which is interesting because they're

889
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:26,000
gonna be going up another team that has sweat equity

890
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,599
of merit as a as a former mid major that

891
00:44:28,679 --> 00:44:31,880
is now considered one of the blue bloods, right because

892
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,199
they've earned that right. BYU's on its quest, on its

893
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,719
trajectory to earn that blue blood power conference upper echelon

894
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:44,480
brand in the basketball world. And I'm intrigued to watch

895
00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:49,320
them knock off Texas and to beat another former conference

896
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,639
teammate in the West Coast Conference, gonzagu who's dominated all

897
00:44:53,639 --> 00:44:55,719
that time. We're gonna we get to see like remember

898
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:01,800
in the gym or era, we knocked off Gonzaga, Okay,

899
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,679
and that was a Sweet sixteen. Could have been an

900
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,119
elite It could have been a Final four if all

901
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:07,800
things would have stars would have aligned. This is one

902
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,079
of those situations where it's like, how far have we come?

903
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,880
How far have we come? Have we progressed at a

904
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,199
level where we are now better than Gonzaga, who has

905
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:21,360
been a perennial. They have made runs year in and

906
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,719
year out in the NCAA tournament for the last like

907
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:30,679
Ian seince, fifteen years, fifteen years of like consistency dominance

908
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,880
in the West Coast Conference. But I'm very much intrigued.

909
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,199
And then you face Purdue, who has become a powerhouse.

910
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,400
That has become a powerhouse. I think it's Palm's number

911
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,440
one offensive rated team. Yeah, I mean it's one of

912
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,000
those teams that is you know, you got about eleven

913
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:48,719
teams that supposedly from the metrics, can win a Natty.

914
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,199
Buyu is not there, But They're one of the teams

915
00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:53,960
that that's kind of right there, right there that could

916
00:45:56,159 --> 00:46:01,320
this year you have some elite basketball teams, elevated play,

917
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:06,039
elevated efficiency, elevated professionalism too, because a lot of these

918
00:46:06,039 --> 00:46:08,800
guys are still they're staying back. They're not going to

919
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,239
the league, they're not going to overseas. They're staying in

920
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:14,480
the NCAA because that's where the money is. So it's

921
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:16,880
much better than it has been. And look at all

922
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,079
the Gleague players that were coming back to anyway, that's

923
00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:24,079
neither here nor there, but a little preview here as

924
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:28,239
we get ready for this BYU Texas game. As I

925
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,440
mentioned by you, only a slight favorite. It's going to

926
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,760
be a five to twenty five pm Mountain time tip off, Okay,

927
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,239
March nineteenth, Thursday in Portland, Oregon. It's going to be

928
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:44,400
broadcasted on TBS, I believe, So make sure you're watching

929
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:47,639
with your friends and family members. Brad Nessler going to

930
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:50,719
be on the play by play and while the Serbiak

931
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,440
analysts as well as Jared Breenberg Greenberg on the sideline.

932
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,280
Do you like that crew?

933
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 3: I do like Jared Greenberg. I grew up on well

934
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:00,840
I don't need to nerd out with the people. But

935
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:02,639
when I was a kid, I would watch the NBA

936
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,880
Top ten on the NBAS YouTube channel every day, and

937
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,440
Jared Greenberg would narrate those.

938
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: And he moved on to bigger and better things. So

939
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,239
I really like Jared Greenberg and then Brad Nesler.

940
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:13,039
Speaker 3: Everyone else didn't grow up an SEC country, but I

941
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:16,679
grew up on the SEC on CBS, and every Saturday,

942
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,119
Brad Nesler was the sound that I heard.

943
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: Is there gonna be some SEC bias? Then I'm just.

944
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,679
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I honestly, men, like this might

945
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,800
be the year where it's like the bias is going

946
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,320
away from the SEC because the innsid play looks at

947
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,719
Texas and they're like, look, man, we want to give

948
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,960
it to you, but like they have a superstar and

949
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:39,360
you don't, and that's better for our brand.

950
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: So do with that, which you will. I'm so excited, man. Yeah.

951
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,199
Speaker 3: The Thursday of March madness when you get to flip

952
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,840
on your TV and turn on the quad Box and

953
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,880
you have ten games going on at the same time

954
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:55,480
and there's so much information, so many games going on.

955
00:47:55,519 --> 00:47:57,519
Speaker 2: Your phone's blowing up. You just can't handle it.

956
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,159
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, man, like the third said Friday in March, Madness,

957
00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:04,360
are the best days in the sport that's stay in sport,

958
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,880
probably not even just the sport.

959
00:48:06,079 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be so much fun. And then the

960
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:09,639
only thing.

961
00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 3: That worries me are like, are we gonna be so

962
00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:14,840
tired of basketball by the time that this five twenty

963
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,639
five tip off rolls around? That were like, Okay, I

964
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:19,119
need a little bit of break, I need to walk

965
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:21,440
away from the TV. But I also think like watching

966
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,920
your team gets you amped up in a way that

967
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,679
that not everything else does. And obviously we're gonna watch

968
00:48:26,679 --> 00:48:28,840
the game, but I'm excited. Man, it's so much fun.

969
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 2: It's the best. Timmy. We got an SEC fishonado here.

970
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,559
As you guys know, he's from Georgia, so you know

971
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,239
he's gonna be like, oh, there's no SEC. Buys, there's

972
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,840
no SEC. But it's not a thing. It's literally a thing.

973
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,760
There's no such thing as everything you know, only a football.

974
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,840
Check this out conferences that sent two plus teams to

975
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,760
the Big Dance, right, this is how many multi big conferences.

976
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,000
Obviously the SEC did Big ten, uh ACC, Big twelve,

977
00:48:55,039 --> 00:48:59,079
Big East West Coast conference, et cetera. The SEC got

978
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:01,440
ten bits to the NCD, the most out of any

979
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,320
power conference, nine to the Big ten, and eight to

980
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,480
the ACC and the Big twelve. And guess what check

981
00:49:08,559 --> 00:49:11,079
this out? Like this is what's so insane to me

982
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:17,280
as you look at the SEC, UH was the worst

983
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:26,000
I believe non conference winning percentage against power conferences. SEC

984
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,840
had like a like a twenty two percent winning percentage.

985
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,599
They had the lowest They had the lowest winning percentage

986
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,360
in like quad one, Quad two, Quad three, Quad four opportunities,

987
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,920
UH quad one a, quad one, Quad one and two. Like,

988
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,360
they had the lowest winning percentage in non con all

989
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,119
season long and every single like. So I just don't know,

990
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,440
I don't know, you know who had the best winning percentage.

991
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,039
It's not even close, like by multiple percentage where the ACC,

992
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:59,239
Big ten and SEC. I mean they're close enough you

993
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,280
can say, okay, but like it's significantly better in their

994
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,400
non con Big twelve is way better than in their

995
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,840
non con than the ACC Big ten. At SEC, Yet

996
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:13,639
the SEC got ten bids, two more than the Big

997
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,280
twelve and the ACC and one more than the Big ten.

998
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: The SEC, again, as a man who grew, they the

999
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:24,320
SEC is the biggest echo chamber on earth, Like they

1000
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,320
just all drink their own kool aid. And but then

1001
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,360
again they go play non con games and they suck.

1002
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,920
But then when they're in conference, like, well, it's just

1003
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:39,280
we were the gauntless. It's always the gauntlet.

1004
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: And that's why they don't want to play any other

1005
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,639
conference anymore. In basketball, Okay, we have so much talent here,

1006
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,519
we can't play like we don't want to get injured,

1007
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,559
we don't want to get exposed. I mean, look at that.

1008
00:50:52,679 --> 00:50:54,800
I mean that's what they're doing. That's it. That's exactly

1009
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,639
their And I called it too, Ronnie. It was like

1010
00:50:57,679 --> 00:50:59,400
two years ago. I called it. I've been calling it

1011
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,920
every year, like, are gonna continue to just play themselves

1012
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,079
in their little sandbox? Back where are the best?

1013
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:06,079
Speaker 1: This is truly a bunch of like this at the

1014
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:10,119
start of Yeah, so it has been two years. Yeah,

1015
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:10,559
I called that.

1016
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,679
Speaker 2: This is what they're gonna do because they've been exposed.

1017
00:51:12,679 --> 00:51:16,480
They can't the sweat equity and that they've built through

1018
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,960
buying players and.

1019
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,079
Speaker 1: Code they put well people putting this over.

1020
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,159
Speaker 2: The last twenty years. They can't let that go away.

1021
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,119
That's why they keep on just go. We'll just play

1022
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:28,960
ourselves over here, and like, oh, Gauntlet, Gauntlet, Gauntlet. They

1023
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,639
got ten freaking bids. So my question is how I

1024
00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:35,800
hope BYU freaking detroys Texas. I hope they beat them

1025
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,360
by twenty.

1026
00:51:36,639 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: I agree, it's a good point now that I think

1027
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,199
about that. But here's the thing. If everything that here's

1028
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,800
this is what happens in Marshamados, everything that can go

1029
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,199
wrong will go wrong right just for an upset or

1030
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:50,159
for the right like b Y, you very well could

1031
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,559
be blowing Texas out at like the you know, the

1032
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,519
tenth minute mark in the second half, because if you're

1033
00:51:55,559 --> 00:51:58,119
in foul trouble in the first half, if AJ is going,

1034
00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:01,360
if he's in fuego, like I'm a rram. He almost

1035
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,440
dropped twenty in every game in the first half. You're

1036
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,280
telling me, if Texas is a better basketball team, you

1037
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,639
can't stay. Probably let's go there West Virginia. Maybe maybe

1038
00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:13,800
West Virginia with Taal Honnerhoff shoots and how great they

1039
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,719
offensive rebound. Ben Look, I love the SEC and I

1040
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,760
think it is a great basketball conference to a degree.

1041
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,360
I don't want to knock it. You know, they got

1042
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,599
the most teams in the tournament. But I keep saying this,

1043
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,800
put the Big twelve in the SEC, see what happens.

1044
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:27,480
Take the SEC and put him in the Big twelve

1045
00:52:27,519 --> 00:52:29,559
and see what happens. Like you don't want to play

1046
00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:31,960
these teams, like I guarant like Texas don't want to

1047
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,519
see Houston, they don't want to see UCF. You don't

1048
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:37,079
want to see Arizona. I'm sorry, but you're gonna have

1049
00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:39,639
to see BYU tomorrow. I just I agree with your point.

1050
00:52:39,639 --> 00:52:41,239
I think if it gets ugly Boor, you can win

1051
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,519
by twenty. And if that's the point, then get AJ

1052
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:46,800
some fresh legs, get him out the game, get robbed out,

1053
00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:48,679
and let some of these other guys get to work.

1054
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,639
I would love to see in a game been where

1055
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:52,639
ajs thirty five or he's not even the guy they

1056
00:52:52,639 --> 00:52:54,400
talked to in the post game. I would love to

1057
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,320
see it be Kenardo or Alexi. That's what I would

1058
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,480
love to see. Will be where he puts belt to booty.

1059
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:00,320
But I don't think that will happen. And I got

1060
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,920
a eight point victory, I got seventy six sixty eight cougars.

1061
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,159
I'll be out for the next two days for a

1062
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:07,480
programming note. But don't believe that if I'm on a plane,

1063
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,039
I'm not gonna be watching BYU. I'm gonna be tuned

1064
00:53:10,079 --> 00:53:11,719
in wherever I'm att even if that is the great

1065
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:12,559
city of Chicago.

1066
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, oh man, goodness great. So anyways, I had

1067
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,960
to go off on a die trap on your SEC.

1068
00:53:19,159 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: It was a good die tride, you know what I mean.

1069
00:53:21,519 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 3: I feel like, as far as SEC people, Brett Brett,

1070
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,119
why are the SEC corrupt?

1071
00:53:26,199 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: Why are they so corrupt? And had they corrupted you?

1072
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,800
Do we have to have talk? Do you need to

1073
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:31,719
go talk to your bishop?

1074
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 3: Do you feel like there's a character within your I

1075
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,920
feel as far as SEC fans go, I probably the

1076
00:53:37,039 --> 00:53:40,119
least biased SEC fan. And I'm not saying I'm unbiased.

1077
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,480
I'm just saying least bias. And I know the bar

1078
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:45,360
is really high, but I'm probably on the lower end.

1079
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,079
Speaker 2: Broddie, I'm beginning to question, you know, my hiring process

1080
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:51,360
with bringing in an SEC advocate.

1081
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: Well, if your question is hiring process, can I be honest?

1082
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,440
That means you have to question your producer because I vouched?

1083
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,239
So that's not good?

1084
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,159
Speaker 2: That is that's true?

1085
00:53:58,199 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 1: That means I mean we have to go back to

1086
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,280
the drawing board. Look, look, this is all in the fun.

1087
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:03,639
Speaker 2: Don't we all want cannon catching?

1088
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: Dang, why you gotta take my took my take it

1089
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,840
straight away. I was gonna give cannon catches a stray.

1090
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,000
I was gonna say, look we had maybe it's a

1091
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,559
cannon catching situation. We made a mistake. Maybe he took

1092
00:54:16,599 --> 00:54:18,880
my strength. Da he's playing fantastic.

1093
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,639
Speaker 2: I am a guy that says once a cougar, I

1094
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,440
was cougar. But I don't even remember. I don't even

1095
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:26,840
know him.

1096
00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:33,599
Speaker 1: I never do the I never Hey, watch it, watch

1097
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,119
you tell my seven Luke Warm?

1098
00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: Can I can I give?

1099
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: Can I get some insight to that? Let me give

1100
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,920
you this. Brett, you guys know that I was at

1101
00:54:41,679 --> 00:54:44,519
you know, the the the Sweet sixteen, and that I

1102
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:46,920
asked cannon catches with Sam Foster. Brett and I both know,

1103
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,519
and Ben, I'm pretty sure you've had him in passing.

1104
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:51,800
He used to be the Daily Universe editor. We both

1105
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,800
sat there and asked him, how would you describe your

1106
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,199
freshman season? He says, just that my freshman season, Ben,

1107
00:54:57,639 --> 00:54:59,519
I had to walk away from the interview as a

1108
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:01,920
reporter because before I was even getting out the locker.

1109
00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:03,719
Must said that man already in the portal.

1110
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, indeed. Anyways, well, Cougar Nation, I want to

1111
00:55:08,519 --> 00:55:10,119
give you a five hundred dollars gift card. What do

1112
00:55:10,159 --> 00:55:13,599
you say it's it's a little giveaway to Ruby's In

1113
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,920
at the gates of Bryce Canyons. It's beautiful rubies In

1114
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:20,159
Bryce Cannon National Parks. The best place to go. I

1115
00:55:20,159 --> 00:55:22,199
think hike, bike, rais or horseback right through the hoodoos.

1116
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:25,440
It's good for lodging. Five hundred dollar gift certificate, good

1117
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,440
for lodging, food and beverage, and or a gift shop.

1118
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,320
All you gotta do is head on over to espnfan

1119
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,400
dot com espnfan dot com and enter and win for

1120
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:38,679
a five hundred dollars gift certificate. Really nothing nobody does

1121
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,400
it better than Bryce Canyon and Rubies In. You're gonna

1122
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,800
have a grand old time make members of friends and

1123
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,119
family member. Get that five hundred dollars in your pocket.

1124
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,320
All right, guys, let's take a time out. We're gonna

1125
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,159
say farewell to hammer time. Right, you're taking off, and

1126
00:55:54,159 --> 00:55:56,800
then we'll welcome in the g man Brandon C. Gurney

1127
00:55:57,039 --> 00:55:59,639
to the show. We'll get into Aaron Roderick commentary,