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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, good morning, good morning. Welcome, welcome, welcome. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time now for city matters right here on K one,

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<v Speaker 1>the one you trust. Going a little early today, we

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<v Speaker 1>have we have our city councilor Aaron Kirkpatrick here with

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<v Speaker 1>is how you doing there, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great, tim and good morning Bartlesville.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good to be back with you again.

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<v Speaker 1>Bright sunshiny day. We got a bright sunshiny future. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess we're looking at that a little bit here with

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<v Speaker 1>the strategic Plan. I guess tell us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, So tonight the Planning Commission meets at City

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<v Speaker 2>Hall at five point thirty and one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that that we're going to be discussing is the long

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<v Speaker 2>Term Strategic Plan. The City Council will approve that back

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<v Speaker 2>in November, and then some people wanted to look it

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<v Speaker 2>over and I guess, you know, suggest some changes and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, see, I don't know. Basically, some people kind

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<v Speaker 2>of I guess discovered it about that time and decided

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<v Speaker 2>they need to they wanted to look it over, revisit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we got a it's been redlined by a

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<v Speaker 2>small group of folks and sent out to the Planning Commission,

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<v Speaker 2>and so tonight we'll be discussing, you know, the red

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<v Speaker 2>lines that we're put into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so when we have a strategic plan, this takes

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<v Speaker 1>a look at things like how the city may grow

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<v Speaker 1>and how we're going to grow it, perhaps infrastructure needs

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<v Speaker 1>down the line and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really just a lot of guidelines, you know, possibilities.

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<v Speaker 2>None of us can predict exactly how Bartlesville is going

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<v Speaker 2>to grow, what it's going to look like in twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you don't have a general target, then you're

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely not going to hit it right. And when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to city planning, when it comes to community organization,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to make sure that you're not just doing

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<v Speaker 2>it totally chaotically or sporadic, because that's that is a

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<v Speaker 2>super easy way to become very inefficient, to waste a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of money, to waste a lot of time, and

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<v Speaker 2>to end up with unintended consequences. So a long term

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<v Speaker 2>strategic plan just helps you say, generally, we want to

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<v Speaker 2>move in this direction, and then you know, as things change,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, it can be adapted. So they're not laws,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not ordinances. It is just a roadmap. For the

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<v Speaker 2>future in very general ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, one of the things you ran on was the

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<v Speaker 1>issue of homelessness, and now you're on the committee, correct, Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have the honor of chairing the Unsheltered Homelessness

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<v Speaker 2>Task Force. This is a six month action team whose

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<v Speaker 2>goal it is to understand the homeless crisis that we're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at and then to propose things that the city

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<v Speaker 2>can do, that our organizations can do to help people

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<v Speaker 2>get out of homelessness and hopefully into stable housing, stable

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<v Speaker 2>economic situations, and improve their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And well, something happened about three or four sundays ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at this kickoff for a fundraiser for a great cause,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm seeing a lot of people from the city

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<v Speaker 1>council there, and I'm seeing, you know, a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody even brought it up.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as that event was over, Facebook was flooded

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<v Speaker 1>with We're gonna throw homeless people in jail?

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<v Speaker 3>What is that? That was wild.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was there with you, and I walked out

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<v Speaker 2>of that that event, I sat down in my.

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<v Speaker 3>Car, pulled up you saw. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I pulled up Facebook and I saw a post and

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<v Speaker 2>it said the Bartlesville City Council is considering ordinances to

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<v Speaker 2>fine homeless people five hundred dollars or more per day

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<v Speaker 2>for being homeless.

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<v Speaker 3>And like, I'm on that team.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm I'm was involved in helping put those

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<v Speaker 2>ordinances together. I know all the people on that team,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, this is.

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<v Speaker 3>Not in there.

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<v Speaker 2>But by the time I saw it, it had been shared

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<v Speaker 2>over fifty times already, which is about as locally viral

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<v Speaker 2>as you can go, I mean, as crazy, and I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the comments and you know, I'm I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 2>engage people and you know, share information, help and it

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<v Speaker 2>was way too late. So yeah, so that I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if that had been true, I'd have been upset too.

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<v Speaker 2>And also if that had been true, it would have

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<v Speaker 2>made the most expensive lodging in Bartlesville outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's crazy. So of course that's not real.

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<v Speaker 1>There are hotels that would love five hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got Airbnbs, I would love five hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>not like you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't get that.

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<v Speaker 2>So and obviously, you know, finding homeless people out of homelessness,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that is as insane.

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<v Speaker 3>As it sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me tell you a little bit about this,

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<v Speaker 2>about this team that we've got together. This team is

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<v Speaker 2>led by local nonprofit leaders that work daily with our

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<v Speaker 2>homeless neighbors. It is led by people who work in

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<v Speaker 2>homeless shelters. The Arrow from the Lighthouse Keith and Christie

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<v Speaker 2>from Be the Light are involved in it. It is

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<v Speaker 2>staffed by mental health professionals. It is staffed by a

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<v Speaker 2>police officer who deals with and interacts with our homeless

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<v Speaker 2>neighbors regularly. We have multiple formerly homeless people on our team, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a team that is steeped in compassion from

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<v Speaker 2>the very beginning. So these when people read, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they saw the number five hundred dollars, you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>a potential up to five hundred dollars a potential fine

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<v Speaker 2>for certain violations, things like you can't camp in Sooner Park.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're camping in Sooner Park. Here's what actual happens.

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<v Speaker 2>The police interact with this person and give them at

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<v Speaker 2>least forty eight hours to vacate, Okay, So it's not

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<v Speaker 2>even like we're kicking you out right now. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>camped in Center Park, like, you can't do that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>unsafe for everybody. And they say you've got at least

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight hours to get out of here. If that

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<v Speaker 2>person refuses, then there's a process for cleaning up the

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<v Speaker 2>trash because there's always a lot of trash.

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<v Speaker 3>In these encampments.

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<v Speaker 2>For what happens with our actual police force when they

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<v Speaker 2>interact with these folks, as they say, do you have

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<v Speaker 2>a place to go? Can we try to get you

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<v Speaker 2>into a shelter? Do you need mental health help? They

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<v Speaker 2>do all of these things. But that five hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>number that people latched onto is actually very strategic. And

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<v Speaker 2>what that does is that is the jurisdictional limit for

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<v Speaker 2>the municipal court. So what that means is if one

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<v Speaker 2>of our homeless neighbors is, you know, in a situation,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they're having a mental health crisis, they can't comply,

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<v Speaker 2>or they're not complying whatever, we don't want them going

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<v Speaker 2>to a higher criminal court. We want them to be

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<v Speaker 2>in our municipal court because our municipal judge already knows

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these people by name, and the the

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<v Speaker 2>finds of the penalties are there, so that he has

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<v Speaker 2>leverage to incentivize them getting help. Because we see a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who have a mental health crisis, they

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<v Speaker 2>have a drug addiction, and so regularly what what are

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<v Speaker 2>What Judge Gentist will do is he'll he'll tell these people,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll say, listen, I'm gonna have to find you one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred bucks. Or if you'll go to you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>of our mental health facilities that Grand Lake, meet with

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<v Speaker 2>your caseworker and then bring me back a note, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>wave the fee. And it's just it's a way to

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<v Speaker 2>incentivize people getting the help that they need, because when

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<v Speaker 2>you have somebody in a schizophrenic break or a psychotic break,

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<v Speaker 2>they they are they can be so detached from reality

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<v Speaker 2>that that if you don't give them a push in

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<v Speaker 2>a helpful direction, they are they're on a path that

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<v Speaker 2>is really destructive for themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>And the community around them. So it's a steering Mechadi. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And and the goal from start to end with this

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<v Speaker 2>thing is to treat individuals with dignity, to treat them

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<v Speaker 2>with compassion, which is which is being able to empathize

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<v Speaker 2>with what they're going through, but also then saying I

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<v Speaker 2>want to help. The challenge is and where where you

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<v Speaker 2>tend to start to find disagreement. And I think we

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<v Speaker 2>saw some of this on that Facebook blow up, was

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<v Speaker 2>people feeling like, hey, you're not helping the individual. But

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<v Speaker 2>we have to balance the needs of the individual, the

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<v Speaker 2>health of the individual with the needs and the health

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<v Speaker 2>of the community. It's fine for me to be a hoarder.

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<v Speaker 2>I can hoard stuff in my house. I can fill

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<v Speaker 2>my house with stuff, yes, But if I fill up

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<v Speaker 2>my house with trash, it's not okay for me to

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<v Speaker 2>start throwing my trash over the fence into your yard.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't externalize the negative consequences of my choices. Once

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<v Speaker 2>you start doing that, the whole community structure begins to

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<v Speaker 2>break down. That's not different for our homeless neighbors. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that we don't want them to. If you

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<v Speaker 2>want to live outside in a tent, I'm fine with that,

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<v Speaker 2>assuming it's not in a place that's going to become

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous for the people around you. Our city crews or

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<v Speaker 2>police officers sometimes are firefighters. They end up interacting with

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<v Speaker 2>these folks when there's a fire in the woods or

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<v Speaker 2>a homeless encampment that is sprawled and spread out, and

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<v Speaker 2>they deal not just with trash. They deal with drug

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<v Speaker 2>paraphernalia and needles. They deal sometimes with sharp objects and weapons.

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<v Speaker 2>They also deal with like you know, five gallon buckets

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<v Speaker 2>of human waste.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like it's really this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like there's no consequence if this stuff just

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<v Speaker 2>is allowed to spread. So we are balancing trying to

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<v Speaker 2>help the individuals get help and get off the street

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<v Speaker 2>while also making sure that the rest of our community

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<v Speaker 2>is also protected. And that's a tricky balance. But the

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<v Speaker 2>group that we have put together, this team is Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I walked in the first meeting really not sure, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what can we accomplish and how's this going to go?

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<v Speaker 3>And that group is phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 2>I've walked away every single time from those meetings feeling

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<v Speaker 2>so filled up, like man, this group is getting it done,

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<v Speaker 2>Like these are the right people having the right conversations,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're making breakthroughs and coming up with ideas that

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<v Speaker 2>have never.

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<v Speaker 3>Been shared before like this. So it's just really, really,

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<v Speaker 3>really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd encourage anybody to come to We meet on the

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<v Speaker 2>second and fourth fridays of the month at eleven o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>and we have a drop dead of no later than one,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's two hours maximum, and we have new people

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<v Speaker 2>there every time, watching the commonversations, and every time I

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<v Speaker 2>talk to somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>Afterwards, they are encouraged by the progress or making.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I imagine is that everybody knew something,

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<v Speaker 1>but not everyone knew everything, and putting those pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>the puzzle together had to be, you know, a big moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I assumed that these organizations just always communicate.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, surely they must. Of course they don't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's now that I know they don't. It makes perfect sense, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm a pastor, you know, and I've got

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<v Speaker 2>lots of other friends and connections in the community to

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<v Speaker 2>do similar work. But you know, if we don't force

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves to get together once a month, we're all working,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ministering to our churches. Well, the same thing

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<v Speaker 2>is true for these helping organizations. They are nose to

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<v Speaker 2>the grindstone day in and day out, helping individuals. So

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<v Speaker 2>what this team has been able to do is put

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<v Speaker 2>these people around a table sharing information and resources and

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<v Speaker 2>perspectives that have not been shared in this way, at

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<v Speaker 2>least to my knowledge. And I would say that pretty

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<v Speaker 2>confidently because I've seen people around that table light up

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<v Speaker 2>and they go, oh, like the data that I have

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<v Speaker 2>and the data that you have, Like they didn't seem

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<v Speaker 2>to line up and then somebody comes in with a

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<v Speaker 2>third piece of data and all of a sudden, everything

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<v Speaker 2>clicks and we go, oh, man, if that's like there's

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<v Speaker 2>real potentially here. So for instance, and I'll use myself

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<v Speaker 2>these people are the experts. I just get to facilitate,

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<v Speaker 2>which is fun for me. Last week, as we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about okay, where we started looking at what resources

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<v Speaker 2>does Bartlesville offer and where do we have gaps? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>are their hindrances to getting to the resources, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>And so we kind of came up with, like with

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<v Speaker 2>the one that was at the top of the list

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<v Speaker 2>was transportation. Our homeless neighbors spend a lot of time

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<v Speaker 2>walking from place to place, waste their entire day just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get from one resource to another, because even

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<v Speaker 2>though most of them are on the west side of town,

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<v Speaker 2>they're still spread out.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have you know, great resources like.

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<v Speaker 2>City Ride, but we're finding that that it doesn't always

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<v Speaker 2>match up to the to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Movement patterns that people need.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the things we're looking at right now

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<v Speaker 2>we're explore or is there a way and we're learning,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is research still ongoing. Is there a way

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<v Speaker 2>to streamline the ability for people to use public transportation

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<v Speaker 2>to get from place to place so they can meet

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<v Speaker 2>the needs, so that our resources can meet the needs

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<v Speaker 2>they have, and that maybe through a public entity, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>something like city right, or it may be through volunteer

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<v Speaker 2>organizations or churches with veh because we don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, Like it's just once you get, once you see

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<v Speaker 3>the need. I have this a hot on.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, I'm here and everybody say, like, transportation is really

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<v Speaker 2>a challenge, and like the entire room with yeah, I'm learning.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that because I had not been sitting

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<v Speaker 2>around a table like this with people who are working

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<v Speaker 2>with these folks and go, this is a need.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we're looking at that need. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what will come of it, but it's.

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<v Speaker 2>The right people having the right conversations, making progress hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>on the right issues.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Folks want to get a hold of you,

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<v Speaker 1>ask you a question or maybe offer some advice. How

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<v Speaker 1>can they do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 2>You can always email me at Aarin Forward four at

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<v Speaker 2>gmail dot com. I've got a website Aaron for Ward

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<v Speaker 2>four dot com My Facebook is Aaron for Ward four

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and then of course you know my phone

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<v Speaker 2>numbers on the city website or actually tonight at seven

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock I will be out at Oak Park, the Methodist

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<v Speaker 2>Church out there doing a town hall.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody who'd like to come participate. Love to have you.

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<v Speaker 1>There, all right, see you then, take care, folks. You've

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<v Speaker 1>been watching and listening to our community connection.