WEBVTT 1 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:27.760 So it's gonna be one of those days. All right, 2 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:30.519 Basis dropped on a new round of SDH. John hear 3 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.840 you there, apologies for the voice hot cold, hot, cold, 4 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:38.759 hot cold reconstituted air, and it caught up with me 5 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:40.880 this weekend. I am now in the land of the 6 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:45.280 homeopathic stuff, and so we'll see what happens. 7 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:47.479 But it's gonna be an interesting day. 8 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:49.119 So Abe Gordon's gonna join us here in just a 9 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:52.640 little bit and we'll break down everything that's on your 10 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:56.600 collective mind when it comes to what happened this weekend. 11 00:00:57.359 --> 00:01:00.159 And there are a couple of different things that we're 12 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:02.280 going to be getting into. Obviously, a will come in, 13 00:01:02.359 --> 00:01:05.280 we'll talk about all of the activity and what's on 14 00:01:05.359 --> 00:01:10.159 Abe's mind. After that we'll get into highlights and literally 15 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:13.519 it's just the carlis Heel moment. But then there are 16 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:15.439 the other things that we need to get into and discuss. 17 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:17.959 And Bart's going to join us an hour number two. 18 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:22.959 But what I want to do is I want to 19 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:27.519 do the discussion that we're gonna have about cards and calls. 20 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:34.680 I want to do it in a way that is constructive. Sorry, 21 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:37.400 I'm pouring my caffeine for the morning. So where do 22 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:39.840 I put this so it doesn't spill? I'm sure wherever 23 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:42.719 I put it's gonna spill anyway, all right, So in 24 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:45.319 hour number two when Bart comes in, obviously we've got 25 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:47.959 to do cards and calls, and there are a couple 26 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.079 of different things that we've got to get into. And 27 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:56.319 what I want to do is I want to look 28 00:01:56.439 --> 00:02:00.599 at it from the perspective of going over the call 29 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:06.959 and what could be going through an individual's mind in 30 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:08.680 that moment. And there are a couple of things that 31 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:11.080 I want to get into with Bart about decision making. 32 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:15.439 And what I want to do is get into a 33 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:17.800 discussion with Bart once again about the laws of the 34 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:21.719 game and what folks might be thinking about in those moments. 35 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:25.400 So it's going to be one of those where you're. 36 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.639 Going to be looking at the laws of the game 37 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:32.439 and going through the moments of the match and then 38 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:41.400 remembering or reminding ourselves about in those moments what is 39 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:45.479 transpiring and what the call can be one way or 40 00:02:45.520 --> 00:02:47.919 the other, and then try to walk through the call. 41 00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:51.199 And so we have and the and there are a 42 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:54.479 couple of philosophical issues that I want to get into 43 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:58.439 that are a part of it where you're looking at 44 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:04.639 the idea of Okay, well you've got game management we've 45 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:09.520 got to get into. You have just the the idea 46 00:03:09.680 --> 00:03:12.680 of controlling a match that we've got to get into. 47 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:15.719 So in reughing down here, when we get into cards 48 00:03:15.719 --> 00:03:19.879 and calls, then it's gonna be it's gonna be that discussion. 49 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:22.639 So we'll bring that in with Barten hour number two 50 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:27.479 and kind of walk through it and take the events 51 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:29.759 of what happened on the weekend so we can all 52 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:33.439 be more informed or just and just you know, I'm 53 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:36.639 not gonna say better educated, but just know where folks 54 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:39.960 are coming from in these particular in these particular instances, 55 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:43.919 and what folks are seeing. And so it was not 56 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:46.919 a good day for Alexis to Silva. I'll go ahead 57 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:50.039 and say that I don't think it was. I'm sure 58 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:52.400 if you asked Alexis to Silva, he would probably tell 59 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:57.599 you otherwise. But we'll take the information that we have 60 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:04.000 from his I'm not gonna say it's not manner, but 61 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:08.520 just how he called the match, and then we'll take 62 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:11.240 that information and go forward just about so we can 63 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:13.919 all be better informed and can understand. It's almost like 64 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:17.519 a defensive driving course, so we can understand where folks 65 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:21.600 are coming from and where the gaps can be, and 66 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:23.680 where the gaps can be in a situation like this. 67 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:26.279 So we'll get into that with Bart now number two, 68 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:29.079 and so we'll go over everything that's on your mind 69 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:31.240 from what happened this past weekend. Like I said, doesn't 70 00:04:31.279 --> 00:04:33.040 have to be at Land United, but at Lanty United. 71 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:35.519 It's obviously number one on the board. So we can 72 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:37.639 talk about it Lanty United, we can talk about anything 73 00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:38.560 else in Major League Soccer. 74 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:40.160 We can talk about anything else going on in. 75 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:44.560 The world of soccer, killing and Bape with you know, 76 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:48.120 there's you know, Killian and Bape got a red and 77 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:52.160 obviously the world was falling down about it, but it 78 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:53.639 points to a larger picture. 79 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:56.360 And I'll see if I can. 80 00:04:56.240 --> 00:05:00.439 Find the Luis Enrique conversation that he had in the 81 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:02.680 film room with Chillian and Bope, and that has always 82 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:09.839 stuck with me about how and Bope is right there, 83 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:14.360 but then he could he could be so much more. 84 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:17.040 But there's, like I said, that conversation that Luis Enrique 85 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:18.800 had with him in the film room that was caught 86 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:20.879 on tape. I mean it wasn't one of these hidden 87 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:23.079 camera things and someone's like sneaking a cell phone in 88 00:05:23.199 --> 00:05:26.519 or anything, but it was. 89 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:26.920 It was. 90 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:30.240 It was a nasty challenge, and it's just anytime you 91 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:33.680 have a moment like that. And I swear to god, 92 00:05:34.600 --> 00:05:37.160 I was looking at the Big fifty five this morning 93 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:41.120 and it was on it was on a Spanish speaking 94 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:46.480 sports network, and in that Spanish speaking sports network, they 95 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:48.839 were wondering out loud, and of course I know this 96 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:51.160 particular program and they like to kind of gin things 97 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:53.959 up and they go they work in the extremes and it's, uh, 98 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:58.639 you know schlock talk sports talk radio that is on 99 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:03.839 television in Spain, and it was one of those is 100 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:05.839 this read a good thing for Killing and Bope? And 101 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:09.639 I'm like, oh my god, are you kidding me? So 102 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:13.439 Killing and Bape gets a red and there's a moment 103 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:15.160 that with Louis and Rique when he was at PSG, 104 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:17.560 it's like, you know, dude, we need you to help 105 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:18.920 out in other places. I'll see if I can find 106 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:21.279 the conversation. But when Killing and Bape has a moment 107 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:24.560 like he had that conversation that Luis will it wasn't 108 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:26.519 really a conversation it was more in Boppe listening and 109 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:29.560 Luis and Rique trying to make Killian and Bope understand 110 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.480 about who he can be and how he needed to 111 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:36.639 help PSG at the time, but it was it was 112 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:41.240 an intriguing conversation, and so we'll get into that also. 113 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:43.920 An hour number two, Jared Smith joining us early on 114 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:45.199 a Monday morning. What's on your mind? 115 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:48.240 Oh that's just chaos of. 116 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:50.839 Course, uh so, uh feel free? 117 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:51.720 Uh? 118 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:53.600 Abe set to join us in a couple of minutes, 119 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:55.160 So I do not hang up and be a part 120 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:57.800 of the conversation when Abe joins us, and Abe was wondering, 121 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.040 I think Abe was working early this morning, and so 122 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:01.560 he said he might be joining us off of his 123 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:04.319 phone as opposed to a normal computer laptops. So we'll 124 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:06.800 see how we'll see how effective that is when it 125 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:09.399 comes to Abe setting to join us here in just 126 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:09.839 a little bit. 127 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:11.480 But you've had a couple of days to think about it. 128 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:12.839 What's on your mind after the weekend? 129 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:21.839 Just it's disappointment, I think, I mean, it's it's it's 130 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:24.319 as far as much frustration as anything. But I think 131 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:30.240 it's kind of this weird feeling that everything's a juxtaposition 132 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:35.079 in your head because it doesn't feel like it's a 133 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:37.759 team that should have the worst start in their club's history, 134 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:40.319 but it is. And you are what your record says 135 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:44.360 you you are after eight games. It's just what it is. 136 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:48.120 You can you can push back on it. And I 137 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:49.920 think they're better than what their record is, but they 138 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:53.879 are what their record is. And it's coming down to 139 00:07:54.879 --> 00:08:01.120 mental mistakes again. It's coming down to little moments, some misfortune, 140 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:05.600 which we'll talk to Bart about at some point. I 141 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:09.199 think pro has pro has spit the bit a couple 142 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:12.800 of times. But in a game where you had two 143 00:08:12.839 --> 00:08:15.399 goals wiped out, one of them correctly for sure. The 144 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:17.959 Latte lo Ca call that one's now even that one's 145 00:08:17.959 --> 00:08:20.639 weird where I'm like, he's offside even if he wanted 146 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:22.240 to get back on side. He wasn't getting back on 147 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:24.959 side because he was getting held, but he was offside. 148 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:28.519 To fine with that. And you have two goals wiped 149 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:32.840 away and you hit the woodwork twice, you generate almost 150 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:35.759 three x G and it's one of those games where 151 00:08:36.039 --> 00:08:39.240 like I will put SoC into x G. You have to. 152 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:41.080 This is the thing with statistics is you got to 153 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:44.399 pick your spots with what you consider to be a 154 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:47.279 worthwhile statistic and a not worthwhile you know, ex g. 155 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:52.080 Statistic you generated almost three. We had two goals wiped away, 156 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:54.799 hitting the woodwork, forcing a couple of really good saves. 157 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:59.519 You feel good if you if you would set that 158 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:04.559 unfl good about what your offense was doing the area. 159 00:09:04.600 --> 00:09:06.440 For me, John, that you got to like take a 160 00:09:06.480 --> 00:09:13.919 really hard look at is going to be the defense. 161 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:18.240 And yeah, we'll get into the officiating because one of 162 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:20.480 my least favorite things on the face of Earth's one 163 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:22.720 of my pet peeves is this whole thing of like 164 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:25.320 you have to overcome the officiating. It is this bullshit 165 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:31.480 American ideal that we have that that like you're supposed 166 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:34.559 to overcome all adversity and that you can't ever like 167 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.720 point to any university when the literal mantra we used 168 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:40.759 all the times correctly and it worked this way too. 169 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:42.559 Goals change games. 170 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.399 You get an early goal there, you've changed the tenor 171 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:47.080 of the game. Against the New England team that had 172 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:49.519 no interest in really playing, they came out with one 173 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:53.159 particular idea they exploited based off of you made adjustments 174 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:55.519 they had no interest in making further adjustments and going 175 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:58.080 and actually playing that game because they hacked it down 176 00:09:58.120 --> 00:09:59.600 in the midfield like they were but like they were 177 00:09:59.600 --> 00:10:01.799 going to stop town trying to take trees down. Yeah, 178 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:06.000 it's zero interest in actually playing. Modern day Caleb Porter 179 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:08.679 will never see the gates of Heaven. I think old 180 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:12.080 school Caleb Porter from ten years ago would fight modern 181 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:14.720 day Caleb Porter on the touch line, right, and he 182 00:10:14.720 --> 00:10:18.840 would do it proudly. But goals change games. You have 183 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:21.799 a goal wiped away, it changes the game. That's how 184 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:22.559 it works. 185 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:24.279 Yeah, you don't have to. 186 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.399 Pretend like like, well that got taken away, but we 187 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:30.440 should still be able to do Yeah. Yeah, you would 188 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:32.039 love to. You would love to live in that world, 189 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:37.559 but you don't always live in that world. So yeah, 190 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:39.600 goals change game. But for me, I think the thing 191 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:42.120 is that the back line. You got to have some 192 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:46.480 serious conversations about. I thought you looked better at three 193 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:48.159 at the back, and I'm sure like there's gonna be 194 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:49.720 a call to go to three at the back this week. 195 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:54.759 But styles make fights, and you're gonna have to figure 196 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:56.919 out how you want to attack this Philadelphia team on 197 00:10:56.919 --> 00:10:57.240 the road. 198 00:10:57.440 --> 00:10:59.600 Yeah, I mean it's Bradley Carnell you know what you're 199 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:01.960 getting in too. But it's basically the same Philly. It's 200 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:03.799 just with a different head coach and a Saint Louis Twitch. 201 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:05.360 Tom, we're gonna talk about the ref man, We're gonna 202 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:06.759 talk about it because it's a goal that changed the 203 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:10.039 full of the game. Like, I don't know what you want, man, Yeah, 204 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:12.039 we'll talk about the other mischances. I mean, I'm here 205 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:14.360 to talk about the problems with the defense, the problem 206 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:17.200 that Miggy did not drop back into defending. So you 207 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:19.399 had a manual latte a lot dropping back into defending. 208 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:26.679 It makes a careless challenge on uh On, on Carlos Hill. Yeah, 209 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:29.120 because he drops back and he defends Miggie's staying up 210 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:31.960 the field. He makes a careless challenge. It's the right 211 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:34.519 call because there's contact. I'm not gonna argue that call 212 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:37.320 at all. Like there's contact, it's at the edge of 213 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:40.440 the box. Puts in the box. He nailed that. They 214 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:43.240 went to var in his ear. They got it right. 215 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:45.960 Is used perfectly there, Man. I give him, I give 216 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:48.279 him all their flowers for that one. But you do 217 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:50.279 change the game. Win. You don't give a first goal. 218 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:54.000 You hit the woodwork twice. You forced a couple of 219 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:54.600 good saves. 220 00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:56.519 That sucks. 221 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:59.759 I don't know how you didn't find a breakthrough. I don't, 222 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:02.840 but you are what your record says you are right now, 223 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:05.360 and you got to figure out the defense because as 224 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:11.000 your offense is going to keep misfiring, as your offense 225 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:14.679 is going to keep missfiring, you need your defense to 226 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:18.240 stay locked in. And you haven't had that consistently. And 227 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:21.159 it's been different guys like Look's been up and down. 228 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:24.559 Derek Williams is banged up right now. But Derek Williams 229 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:30.639 had a couple of really rough games where he made 230 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:33.840 mistakes that you can't make. I am personally of the 231 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:35.799 opinion I would be fine. If you want to go 232 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:37.759 through at the back with a Broms Sion and Noah Cobb, 233 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:39.639 do it. If you want to play Noah Cob and 234 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:43.080 Efrian Morales together and go twenty seventeen Philly style, do it. 235 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.159 Put the kids out there. If guys are gonna make 236 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:48.480 mistakes anyway, put my kids out there. Let them make 237 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:50.120 the mistakes and let them grow. Because one of them 238 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:52.799 is already a comic ball national team player for Bolivia 239 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:54.840 and the other ones a youth American national team player 240 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:57.320 who has the potential to be more than that. Yeah, 241 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:00.759 I'm fine playing those guys, but defense has got a 242 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:01.159 not up. 243 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:02.399 Yep, he says. 244 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:04.600 If your offense is gonna misfire, the most important number 245 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:05.840 you're gonna be able to have to you're gonna have 246 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:07.519 to put up is that gooseg on the other end. 247 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:09.200 And only once this year have you done it. And 248 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:11.080 you did an amazing job of against Red Bulls. You 249 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:12.679 didn't give up a shot on goal. You give up 250 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:14.759 one shot on goal the entire weekend to both Red 251 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:17.200 Bulls teams and walked away with one point because they 252 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:19.799 got a deflected goal against the twos and didn't put 253 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:22.039 a shot on frame against the first team. That was great, 254 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:24.360 but you've got to build on that, and you have 255 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:27.639 to be better defensively. I mean this is getting back into, 256 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:29.919 like Frank the Board's territory of I know what I 257 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:32.639 have defensively, I know what I have offensively, and while 258 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:34.759 we put the pieces together, we're going to be a 259 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:37.879 little bit more pragmatic and then we'll open the engine 260 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:38.919 up when we get a chance. 261 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:41.799 So you see how fired up jerib is ab. 262 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.879 Yeah, I agree with some of it. And I'm reading 263 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:51.000 the comments and some of them I agree with and 264 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:53.360 and some I don't. I don't know how much you 265 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:57.159 guys got into before I popped on in regards to 266 00:13:57.200 --> 00:14:00.960 the goal that was taken away offside and all that. 267 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:02.679 No, and I'm getting yelled at when I bring that up, 268 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:04.759 and not just here but anywhere, So I don't know. 269 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:07.240 It's this thing like you know where I apparently if 270 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:09.120 we bring that up, we'll make an excuses as opposed 271 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:11.639 to telling a guy to do his job correctly. Well, 272 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:15.039 I mean, look, actually be scoring more goals. I agree, 273 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:17.279 but we're gonna talk about the shit that happened on Saturday. 274 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:18.960 Yeah. 275 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:22.879 Look, this is not the first instance of you had 276 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:25.759 opportunities to put a game away and didn't do so, 277 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:28.559 and obviously this costs you points, not just one, but 278 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:32.159 potentially three. You hit the crossbar at you know, a 279 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:34.519 half inch lower, and that's a goal from antay Lot. 280 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:37.240 You hit the post a half inch a quarter inch 281 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:41.159 to the left, that's a goal from Jamal Tray. And 282 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:43.519 I just disagree with this mindset that it's not a 283 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:47.039 good team, they're not getting results, and I don't think 284 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:50.759 those are the same things, and it's not here sitting 285 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:55.519 and making excuses and this or that. A team that's 286 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:58.679 not good has no hope. A team that's not good 287 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:03.039 can't turn it around. I still feel like this team 288 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:05.399 can turn it around. I do still feel like this 289 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:08.559 team has hope. And as we learn from the postseason 290 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:10.840 run last year, if you could just get in and 291 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:13.919 be healthy, you could see what happens. 292 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:14.159 Now. 293 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:16.399 No one's gonna sit here and say they'd be happy 294 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:21.039 if the Lanta United it comes in as a seven 295 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:24.000 seed or an eight seed and has to deal with 296 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:27.960 that again, like, obviously that's fall falling short of expectations. 297 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:31.200 But if that's what we're dealing with at the time, 298 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:36.600 then so be it. And so look, if we're sitting 299 00:15:36.639 --> 00:15:40.120 here ten more games in and saying the exact same 300 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:43.799 thing that they're putting together good performances but not getting results. 301 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:46.480 Now I start to maybe sit here and say, now, 302 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:48.840 hold on, like, are the results ever gonna come? 303 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:51.879 But it has been disappointing, there's no way around that. 304 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:54.519 But I still think they're gonna find a way to 305 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:58.039 turn it around. And at some point I will lose 306 00:15:58.080 --> 00:15:59.840 faith that they will turn it around. If it does 307 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:04.200 come I'm not there just yet. And in terms of 308 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:10.960 the quote controversial calls or whatever, I stand by this. 309 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:13.399 It sounds like Jared, you're probably close to me on 310 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:16.000 this as well. PK has to be given. 311 00:16:16.519 --> 00:16:21.320 It just does oh for Carl's heel, Yeah, oh yeah, 312 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:24.000 one hundred percent. He absolutely got that right. You cant 313 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:25.320 be mad about it, but he got it right. 314 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:28.360 It starts in the box. There was contact to take 315 00:16:28.360 --> 00:16:30.639 a player down. Now is it bad defending in that 316 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:33.960 moment with a player that's not even really running across 317 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:36.519 the face of goal but almost away from goal. Yeah, 318 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:40.720 it's bad defending. You can't create contact there, but it 319 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:43.279 has to be given. I'm not mad at that call. 320 00:16:43.320 --> 00:16:45.440 I don't blame that call. I think it's the correct call. 321 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:48.559 It hurts you, but it's the correct call. I do 322 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:52.000 have some issues with how they officiated the off sides 323 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:56.080 and it just maybe I've all, maybe we've all it's 324 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:01.399 not just me misunderstood the rule of intent and. 325 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:03.559 Stuff like that. 326 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:07.240 But I just don't see a world in which it 327 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:11.920 was a deflection or reactionary play from the New England defender. 328 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:15.240 He played a bad ball, but he played a ball. 329 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:18.759 It was intentional. I just don't see how you give 330 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:23.160 that as off sides. But whether or not that's off sides, 331 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:26.319 whether or not it takes a goal off the board. 332 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:29.480 The team's got to stay focused. They can't concede four 333 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:33.440 or five, six minutes later, whatever it was, and they've 334 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:36.279 got to find a way to finish opportunities. This is 335 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:39.920 another one that is two to one, three to one 336 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:43.799 at worst, and you're just not getting there again. You 337 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.799 know how much I love XG there, John, but two 338 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:51.559 point eight is not insignificant. Two point eight to be 339 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:54.960 clean sheeted is something you have to address, and the 340 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:57.400 players are saying the right things. Rodnie dla is saying 341 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:01.680 the right things and trying to hold optimism that at 342 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:04.240 some point it will take a turn. At some point 343 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:07.359 some of the luck will bounce Atlanta United's way, but 344 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:09.720 so far it hasn't. They're off to the worst start 345 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:14.440 in franchise history, including a home stand of three games 346 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:16.039 against two of these teams. 347 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:18.759 Really bad. If we're gonna be straight honest, and you're 348 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:20.640 only able to muster four points. 349 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:24.079 And I think Atlanta United fans have reason to be angry, 350 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:27.480 they have reason to be frustrated, But I'm just not 351 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:30.279 yet to where we have reason to lose hope or 352 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:34.119 be pessimistic over the course of a season. If I 353 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:36.480 have to get there, I will trust me, I'll turn 354 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:39.279 but hopefully they'll bring me to that. 355 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:49.960 No, it's I'm gonna nuance this a bit, because that's 356 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:58.400 what sports is. It's it's nuanced. Ultimately, it's a right 357 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:01.839 now as we stay and I think it is an 358 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:08.119 incredible selection of players and an incredible roster. They are 359 00:19:08.160 --> 00:19:13.200 not consistently playing like a team for me. They have 360 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:16.480 moments where they are, but then there are too many 361 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:22.240 moments where they are off balance, not on the same page. 362 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:27.799 And it just doesn't it doesn't feel like, it does 363 00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:30.960 not feel like, to belabor the metaphor, it does not 364 00:19:31.000 --> 00:19:33.119 feel like whatever we are putting in that mixing bowl 365 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:37.400 is mixing the way we need to. Will it very likely, 366 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:41.720 like I think there's too much talent for it not to. 367 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:45.960 To your point about Rodnie dla and look, I watched 368 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:49.640 that man manage at Celtic in twenty fourteen through twenty sixteen. 369 00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:53.000 Let me preface that by telling you twenty fourteen through 370 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:57.359 twenty sixteen, there was no Rangers. Rangers had ceased to 371 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:02.160 exist like whatever fantasy you have about your greatest rival 372 00:20:02.240 --> 00:20:04.839 falling apart, was what happened to Rangers if you're a 373 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:08.319 Celtics fan, because the club literally went into administration and 374 00:20:08.400 --> 00:20:11.319 bankruptcy and cease to exist at the restructure and start 375 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:14.319 at the very bottom of the ladder. He was playing 376 00:20:14.400 --> 00:20:20.359 and coaching the far and away the most uh, the 377 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:25.079 highest revenue and highest rostered team, and every single loss 378 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:31.759 was met with like brimstone and death. So I as 379 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:34.759 far as Roddy goes, I don't think he's gonna be 380 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:37.599 like I don't I personally don't think he's gonna be 381 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:41.319 like sweating out, like, oh man, I gotta get this point. 382 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:45.720 Like he's seen some shit. Now, does that mean that 383 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:47.720 he's not gonna work shrug it that he's gonna shrug 384 00:20:47.720 --> 00:20:50.440 it off. No, I don't think so at all. I 385 00:20:50.559 --> 00:20:54.079 just think for me and my expectation from him is 386 00:20:54.119 --> 00:20:58.039 that he's seen some shit. He is going to have 387 00:20:58.119 --> 00:21:01.880 a different toolbox maybe than other people on how to 388 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:05.559 address that, and the trick is gonna be actually doing 389 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:07.319 it and actually getting guys to sync up. 390 00:21:07.640 --> 00:21:10.240 Well, a couple of things here, and that is from 391 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:13.480 Ronnie Dila and from the players. There's frustration, but there's 392 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:16.640 not panic, and I think that goes to what you're suggesting, Jared, 393 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:18.880 and I think that's important. And the other thing, John, 394 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:21.559 is something I told you and I've reminded you that 395 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:25.319 I've told you as the season started, before it got going, 396 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:27.480 and that is that you have to have patience and 397 00:21:27.640 --> 00:21:30.319 just look, I'm not gonna lie. It's taken a lot 398 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:32.519 longer for this team to figure out what exactly is 399 00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:34.559 going on, and they haven't figured it out yet. There's 400 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:38.480 no doubt about that. I was hoping within four or 401 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:41.400 five matches they would start to look like the team 402 00:21:41.440 --> 00:21:43.920 we need them to look like. That hasn't happened yet, 403 00:21:43.920 --> 00:21:46.640 and we're now through eight matches, so it's taken longer 404 00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:49.319 than I thought. But I've warned people at the very start, 405 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:51.519 it's like, hey man, this feels like it's gonna take 406 00:21:51.960 --> 00:21:54.000 quite a long time for it to come together. And 407 00:21:54.039 --> 00:21:56.480 so we're not gonna panic at the start of the season. 408 00:21:56.640 --> 00:21:58.680 Now we're getting to the point where it's a little 409 00:21:58.680 --> 00:22:02.279 bit beyond just the start the season and it hasn't 410 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:05.240 come together. It doesn't mean it's not going to come together. 411 00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:10.480 And I think we've seen in recent seasons. You don't 412 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:15.079 have to be that good for that long in stretches 413 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:18.240 of the MLS season to make it to the playoffs. 414 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:21.000 I mean, this is a team that fired a manager 415 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:25.000 last season, had a horrible run under an interior manager, 416 00:22:25.359 --> 00:22:28.440 turned it around for a five game stretch, gets into 417 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:32.000 the playoffs and goes on a run. And so we 418 00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:36.119 are not even close to being in the desperation mode 419 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:39.240 that last season's team was in. I still believe that 420 00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:41.480 they will figure it out. Can't figure it out, and 421 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:45.240 when they do figure out, will be increasingly dangerous. Now 422 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:48.359 that means they're no longer to play for the supporter shield. Fine, 423 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:51.400 they're probably not going to leave the MLS in scoring. Fine, 424 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:53.519 But as long as we get to a point where 425 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:56.319 they figure it out and they start to put stretches 426 00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:59.799 not just in games, but stretches of the calendar to 427 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:03.039 get other where you're knocking off three point three point 428 00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:05.119 one point on the road, three point three point on 429 00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:08.200 the road, you're right and start to kind of get 430 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:11.759 to where this team needs to be. But I think 431 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:15.079 it's important that they are unified. They have the exact 432 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:18.680 same messages from manager onto the veteran players onto the 433 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:23.160 younger players as well. And again, it's okay to be frustrated, 434 00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:28.599 It's it's okay to be, you know, bothered by the results. 435 00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:32.200 It's not okay to panic, and it's not okay to 436 00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:34.880 lose focus and lose the message. And they haven't been 437 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:39.160 doing that, And that gives me a little bit of belief, 438 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:43.839 because yeah, I am just like everyone else, emotional, frustrated 439 00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:48.039 and becoming increasingly pessimistic about the chances. But I also 440 00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:50.200 have to remind myself, like I'm the I'm the one 441 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:52.799 that said, hey, it's gonna take a while before this 442 00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:55.720 team is up and running full speed ahead. They haven't 443 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:59.920 gotten there yet. I just hope that they can. And again, 444 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:04.680 it's just a matter of finishing, right, Like you talk 445 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:08.079 about the chances created and how dangerous they look, and 446 00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:11.680 they're just not getting the end result. And I don't 447 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:13.680 know how big of a difference it is between getting 448 00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:15.640 the end result and not getting the end result, but 449 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:17.519 it just feels like if they start to get that 450 00:24:17.640 --> 00:24:20.599 end result, you can start to roll off three goal games, 451 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:21.480 four goal games. 452 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:23.039 But they haven't been there yet. 453 00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:28.200 And look, everyone's gonna say recent seasons, this and recent 454 00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:31.799 seasons that every season's different. I don't play by these 455 00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:35.359 nonsense trends when you're turning over half the team and 456 00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:39.160 your entire attack is new and Pedro Robindor played six 457 00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:42.200 games last year, whatever it was. I just don't go 458 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:44.599 with these recent trends and what the team was last 459 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:47.079 year or what the team was in twenty twenty two. 460 00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:50.720 This is this year's team. We're focusing on what the 461 00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:53.440 problem is now and how to address it. 462 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:56.200 You didn't know if you were going to be getting 463 00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:57.839 into something like this this morning, did Jabe. 464 00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:01.000 Look, I've already fired Here's what the people don't know. 465 00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:03.920 I've already fired off three hours of live radio. We 466 00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:06.599 got to cry about a cy Young Award winner who 467 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:10.799 throwing robs and bags faster than he's throwing fastballs. 468 00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:13.079 So I'm fired up, We're ready. 469 00:25:13.799 --> 00:25:15.880 I'm in playoff mode because of the Hawk's got a 470 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.440 game tomorrow like I'm I'm I'm ready to roll. 471 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:21.279 And uh, people, I don't know if they were ready 472 00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:22.000 for me today. 473 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:23.039 It's all good, brother. 474 00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:25.279 Look, Spencer Swellenbaker is gonna win the cy Young this year, 475 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:30.240 and it's going to be tragic because I'll take it yeah, yeah, yeah, 476 00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:36.039 an important storm brother, But yeah, it it's a lot 477 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:37.720 of it is just like I said, I think a 478 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:39.799 lot of it is you have a The collection of 479 00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:44.160 talent you have is very good. The youngsters you have 480 00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:47.119 are also very good, which is why I am very 481 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:50.160 much the proponent of like, if if guys are not 482 00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:53.720 going to give you the performance you're looking for, then 483 00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:57.720 go with the kids, because they seem very interested in 484 00:25:57.759 --> 00:26:02.519 doing just that. Full marks to Tristan, Melli and Ba 485 00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:07.200 who struggle last year is not good and proceeded to 486 00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.440 uh proceeded to once he once he got hurt, not 487 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:14.759 be a guy who could stay on get back on 488 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:17.519 the field because Jay Fortune just basically took his cookies 489 00:26:17.519 --> 00:26:22.759 from me. Tristan reacted the right way this year. It's 490 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:28.559 been good. I need more from Sleash consistently. I'll tell you, man, 491 00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:31.119 the thing that I was begging for in that game 492 00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:33.000 and I didn't get it till like the eighty seventh 493 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:40.000 minute was Mattea's click absolutely putting someone on their ass. Yeah, 494 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:42.440 I'm not saying you punched somebody or bite someone. By 495 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:46.440 the way Luis Suarez bit someone this weekend, it was Yeah, 496 00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:50.079 that's honestly what makes it even better. But I'm not 497 00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:54.759 saying you got to hurt somebody, but this you gotta 498 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:59.440 you got to you gotta get stuck the hell in 499 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:01.599 on a tack when it's feeling. When you're in a 500 00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:05.079 game like this, when you're playing a team that has 501 00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:08.400 really no interest in playing, they don't call it what 502 00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:11.279 it is. Man like you, you can you can spin 503 00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.200 it and say whatever you want. I've watched way too 504 00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:17.440 many of these kalb Porter teams that even his comments 505 00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:19.480 after the game about like convincing the players to buy 506 00:27:19.480 --> 00:27:23.000 into it, like there's no interest in doing jack shit. No, 507 00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:25.759 Like you got your penalty and you were able to 508 00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:27.799 get out there with a one nil Like okay, I 509 00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:31.279 mean it worked. You know when you people park the 510 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:34.319 bus and bunker and break up play because it works, 511 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:36.480 They wouldn't do it if it didn't work. But in 512 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:38.559 a game like that where the play is getting broken up, 513 00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:42.480 you're unable to find something even though you're creating chances. 514 00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:45.559 You're getting hacked down in the midfield to the tune 515 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:47.480 of twenty fouls but two yellows, and none of them 516 00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:51.960 were for persistent infringement. When you're getting that game. It 517 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:55.920 shouldn't take to the eighty something if minute for your uh, 518 00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:58.799 for someone to come off the bench and just put 519 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:01.480 someone on their ass and try and change the tenor 520 00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:04.160 of things. I guess I'm not saying you got to punch. 521 00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:05.359 Somebody, but. 522 00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:08.240 Bring some fire, damn man. 523 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:14.000 I mean, look, I get that you want to bring 524 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:17.559 the attitude and all that stuff, but like, none of 525 00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:20.119 that's relevant to me if you're not able to score 526 00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:23.039 up top, Like you want to feel better about your 527 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.319 team because you're spelling up to the physical challenge and whatever, 528 00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.960 like fine, but like you're still behind, Like like you're 529 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.319 not in my opinion, you're not behind because you didn't 530 00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:35.359 bring a physical mindset or physical attitude or go toe 531 00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:37.279 to a toe to with a team that was fouling 532 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.400 you twenty times. Like finish your chances, man, and I 533 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:44.319 think you'll start to see things go differently. I mean, 534 00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:46.079 I get what you're saying, you want to see a 535 00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:47.839 little bit more fight, but like I just want to 536 00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.079 see chances created turn it into goal created. 537 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:52.039 Like that's that's the bottom line. 538 00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:54.200 Like I think this team, and I mentioned this, I 539 00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:57.000 think this team is playing okay defensively. I don't think 540 00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:58.480 they're right now at the top of their game. And 541 00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:00.880 a lot of that did had to do with mistakes 542 00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.839 from Derek Williams and some mistakes made on the road 543 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:07.920 at Charlotte not from Derek and whatever. But like, this 544 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.799 team's not a mess defensively, Like the breakdowns have been individual, 545 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:14.519 not as a unit. You've had some bad luck, some 546 00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:19.200 bad bounces, a couple things like that, but like, ultimately 547 00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:24.000 the attitude for me is irrelevant, Like you just need 548 00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:27.799 to score goals, and there's that's not an attitude thing. 549 00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:30.759 I think it's just maybe a little bit of confidence, 550 00:29:30.839 --> 00:29:34.359 maybe certainly some chemistry, and quite frankly a little bit 551 00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:36.279 of bad luck. And I think you can get one 552 00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:39.079 or two of those things to change in the right direction. 553 00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.200 I still think this team can really move ahead quite 554 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.680 quickly and start to rack up points, but they've got 555 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:50.279 to get closer in terms of chances created turning into goals. 556 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.599 So a, what else is going on now that we've 557 00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:55.200 held you over and I apologize for that? 558 00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.880 Well, no, I mean, look, I think we're all frustrated, 559 00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:02.039 and I mean we see this sometimes in other sports. 560 00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:04.880 Homestand didn't go the way you wanted and I'm just 561 00:30:04.920 --> 00:30:08.519 hoping that a two game road trip against two difficult teams, 562 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.359 and like we've seen this from the Atlanta Hawks all 563 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:13.160 season long. I think at times we saw this from 564 00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:16.160 the Atlanta Falcons, like Ken United at least showcase that 565 00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:18.200 they can play up or down to the lever or 566 00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:22.119 the competition. Obviously against New England they played down to 567 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:25.400 the level of the competition. But a very difficult road 568 00:30:25.400 --> 00:30:28.519 trip Philly and Orlando City and you're looking to play 569 00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:31.799 up to your level of competition, and maybe that's the case, 570 00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.160 but getting away from home maybe is some good news 571 00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.440 for Atlanta United. I'm actually gonna be out this week. 572 00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.319 I'm on a vacation with my father, but Garrett, we'll 573 00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:44.880 have you for a pregame and post game on Saturday, 574 00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:47.160 and just like always, is gonna be on ninety two 575 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.519 nine the game. He's got Madison Cruz hanging out there 576 00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.200 with him, so you'll be covered head to toe with 577 00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:55.039 the soccer down here. Family, and I look forward to 578 00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:58.440 watching this one kind of from afar and seeing if 579 00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:01.359 they can just convince Like I see all these messages 580 00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:03.400 that we got going on there, and it just feels 581 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:07.000 like one win on the road can kind of change 582 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:08.759 things and and and we'll see if they can put 583 00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:09.319 that together. 584 00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:13.319 Uh, Saturday night, all right, so uh it's another minor 585 00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:15.599 league baseball or another baseball tour with your dad. 586 00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:17.359 Yeah, minor league baseball. 587 00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:19.880 We're heading to uh we're actually heading to Charlotte and 588 00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.119 uh so we'll see the Charlotte Knights, We'll see the 589 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:27.319 Durham Bulls. Might even check out Greenville. We'll we'll see 590 00:31:27.319 --> 00:31:30.279 if we stop by on the way back. But uh, yeah, 591 00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:31.920 it should be pretty fun obviously. 592 00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.799 So if you can hit the bull, hit bull, I'll 593 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:37.640 work on it. Hit bullwind steak, hit to hit grass 594 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.240 wind salad. That's how it always goes. As always, my friend. 595 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:41.640 Great to see you on Moneys. We'll catch up with 596 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:42.000 you soon. 597 00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:43.200 Yep, see fellas. 598 00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:43.480 Thanks. 599 00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:45.119 All right, there goes Abe. And I know that we 600 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:45.759 kept him long. 601 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.400 And I know that everybody there at Colony Score is 602 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.039 gonna sit there and go where were you? And Abe's 603 00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:51.519 gonna have to sit there and say, well, you know, 604 00:31:51.559 --> 00:31:52.279 I was kind of busy. 605 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.400 No, Mike's probably sitting in his office going you just finished, 606 00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.279 didn't you, Because Mike's also Mike is also in the 607 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:02.440 mode of getting ready for the Atlanta Hawks to do 608 00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:07.920 some very stupid basketball things, because to his point, I 609 00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.480 watched that Hawks team lose two games to the Washington 610 00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:14.279 Wizards this year, who were an abominable franchise, and then 611 00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:19.519 beat the Cleveland Cavaliers twice. Yeah, I can never sit here. 612 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:21.920 I will never endorse the Atlanta cannot go on the 613 00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:24.119 road and be Philly. I think it was two year ago, 614 00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:25.839 last year or two years ago they went up to 615 00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:29.000 Philly and went down like two or three nil, and 616 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:36.079 damn near came back won. It's they're too Part of 617 00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:42.000 part of being maddeningly inconsistent is that at some point 618 00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:47.079 you're gonna do really good, stupid things. The part that's 619 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.480 gonna make you want to pull your hair out is 620 00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:53.319 the fact that it's just not gonna because you might 621 00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:55.440 you might get that in Philly. Like if you told 622 00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.400 me in Philly or Orlando, one of the two they 623 00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:01.920 put together the most complete performance of the season and 624 00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.839 get a road wind that is one of your signature 625 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.920 performances of the year, and then follow that up with 626 00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:11.640 something mind numbingly frustrating. I would buy that for ten 627 00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:13.799 dollars because that's right now that's who they are. 628 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:18.039 Yeah, and that's what we're talking about this morning. I 629 00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:21.480 know everybody's fired up. Okay, So Abby wanted Niggy's stats. 630 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:27.240 So here's Miggy's numbers from Saturday ninety minutes. The XG 631 00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:31.119 plus XA is a point seventy three, two shots on target, 632 00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:34.240 one shot off target, one block, one successful dribble, sixty 633 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.480 one touches, seventy one percent accurate passing at twenty seven 634 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:39.960 to thirty eight, three of four in his long balls, 635 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.359 four of eight on his ground duels, and fouled three times. 636 00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.359 And that's Migy's numbers. So there you go. So Abby 637 00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.519 wanted Miggy's numbers. On the day, punched. 638 00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:52.559 A seven point one, which puts him in the higher 639 00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:53.640 range of folks. 640 00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:56.200 No, it didn't count. Those one of the prettiest finishes 641 00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:58.359 of the year. Yeah, just foot around a ball. Yeah 642 00:33:58.440 --> 00:33:59.200 really nice. 643 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.920 Yep Out at a seven point nine, Brooks at a 644 00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:05.880 seven point eight. Uh midn' chook at a seven point two, 645 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.760 Miggy slash and Gregorson at seven point one, Tristan at 646 00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:11.519 a seven point zero, and then everybody else was in 647 00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:14.480 the sixes. So that's your that's your rundown. We'll go 648 00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.000 into individual numbers if anybody else wants, So there you go. 649 00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:18.920 Yeah. 650 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.000 Yeah, he had a couple turnovers that were bad man, 651 00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:26.800 and like I said, everybody did right now. It just 652 00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.559 it feels out of it feels I said in the discord. 653 00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.840 It feels like watching someone play music and they're like 654 00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:38.360 one sixteenth note behind the beat. Oh, and you can 655 00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:41.920 hear it and it's going to drive you up a wall. 656 00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.400 Yeah. 657 00:34:44.760 --> 00:34:48.000 So this was so because Tom's touching on this. This 658 00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:50.440 was one of my concerns when you brought Miggy back, 659 00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:55.159 is that al Maron is is. This is twenty twenty 660 00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:57.840 five version, and I'm not saying anyone here had this. 661 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:03.039 So don't get defensive if you were expecting twenty eighteen Mickey, 662 00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:04.039 I have bad news for you. 663 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:05.079 He's not that guy anymore. 664 00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:07.159 He's just not the same player, and you weren't asking 665 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:11.519 him to do the same things. If you decide to 666 00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:13.760 go get wild, I know, I know there is the 667 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:17.239 push to have the push to have Mickey play as 668 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:19.960 the ten, have Manonchouk plays the eight. You better go 669 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.400 get a destroying six then, because you're gonna have hemorrhage goals. 670 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.400 More than you already are if you do that, because 671 00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:27.840 Benon Chruk is like you're you're asking him to play 672 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.960 a deep line playmaker. I'm good with that. I think 673 00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:31.639 that fits him. 674 00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:31.920 Well. 675 00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:34.960 You need to make sure that you have a killer six, 676 00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:37.559 and I don't think that's that's Tristan's game. I don't 677 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.599 think that's Bart's game. I think Jay can do it. 678 00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:44.360 But that's just like you need a different kind of 679 00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:46.880 six to sit man like as you are going to 680 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:50.840 hemorrhage chances in that situation. Not to say that guys 681 00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:53.400 won't try and defend, but you're gonna need like a 682 00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:57.000 flat out destroyer to pull that off. And if you 683 00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:59.400 can do it, and if you decide to do it 684 00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.719 and take a risk, I'm not opposed to it. But 685 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:04.559 that's just something you got to consider about it, because 686 00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:09.199 like you just it's the same thing with like, hey, 687 00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:11.840 let's bring this back. It's the same thing like with 688 00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:14.800 watching with watching the New York Yankees at times last 689 00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:18.360 year and in the World series, where they decided, what 690 00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:22.320 if we had this amazing offense, great, what next? What 691 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:24.559 about defense? We'll worry about that. What's the worst that 692 00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:25.039 could happen? 693 00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:27.880 You get outscored eleven ten. 694 00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:30.960 Well, know, the worst that could happen is the World 695 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:34.440 Series where the Yankees just basically refuse to play defense consistently, 696 00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:36.960 including your center field or just dropping a ball and 697 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:42.639 your pitcher refusing actively refusing to cover first base on 698 00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.039 a ground ball to the first baseman that wasn't going 699 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:49.280 toward the bag. Oh my god, I I was over. 700 00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.159 I was like, I was my blood was boiling when 701 00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:56.760 everyone was blaming Aaron Judge for that. As if Garrett 702 00:36:56.760 --> 00:37:00.119 Cole doesn't literally do like you. One of the the 703 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:02.719 first things you do in spring training is PfP MH 704 00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:04.960 ball hit the first base. But if he's going away 705 00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:06.920 from the bag, or if it's a runner with speed, 706 00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.960 you get to the line and you you get to 707 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:12.159 the first base line and then you cut up and 708 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:14.119 you run along the line to the first base bag 709 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:16.000 and you make yourself available for your pitcher. 710 00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:17.280 Yeah. 711 00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:21.079 So anyway, yeah, no, one of the drills that we 712 00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.119 did when I was in ball, that's what you did 713 00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:26.639 when you were a pitcher, balls in between first and 714 00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:28.800 second first baseman can't get to the bag in time, 715 00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:31.320 you you as a pitcher, or to run a straight 716 00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:34.920 line to the first base side run or run an 717 00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:35.760 arc and get there. 718 00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.519 Make sure that you're in line and you're following to first. 719 00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:40.920 Base being you have to keep in mind the defense 720 00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:44.400 with it. Yes and no, no, there, I don't mean 721 00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.840 like that. It's a I don't mean that. It's it 722 00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:49.519 is a flat out poorly constructed roster because you don't 723 00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.519 have a destroying six like what you had in what 724 00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:56.559 what what you had in mind was to play with 725 00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:00.679 those guys interchanging, and it doesn't they they do not 726 00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:04.480 tend to be interchanging in rhythm. So if the way 727 00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:06.519 to make it work is gonna be to do that, 728 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:10.559 then you need to have someone who can sit back 729 00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:14.039 and be an absolute wall defensively. And it's if that's 730 00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:16.480 not what you were expecting, that's not what you were expecting. 731 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:17.239 And that stinks. 732 00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:20.360 But and then if you do you intended to play 733 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.880 with two. You intended to play with two holding midfielders 734 00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.480 back there and let everyone else get forward. But if 735 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:27.239 that's not working, you've got to make adjustments and you've 736 00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:28.800 got to figure some stuff out. You're gonna have to 737 00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:32.159 start like shaving puzzle pieces. Yeah, I mean, does it's 738 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:33.079 very annoying? 739 00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:35.920 Does it turn into a you know, does it turn 740 00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:37.199 into a three two three two? 741 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:37.639 Does it? 742 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.920 You know, does it turn into something like that? You know, 743 00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:42.320 do you start with your three center backs? And if 744 00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:44.440 you say, if you want your marauding six and you 745 00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:46.440 think that Jay's doing it, then that means that somebody's 746 00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:49.679 sitting unless you're gonna have like seventeen midfielders and play 747 00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:52.599 like a three seventeen to two one. So there's gonna 748 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.599 be questions when it comes to the lineup. If you 749 00:38:55.639 --> 00:38:57.719 if you want to do certain things, then you're going 750 00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:02.320 to have to rearrange your cards and figure out, okay, well, 751 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:05.199 if if I want my six and I think it's 752 00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.519 Jay and it's a solo six, then someone's sitting. And 753 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.000 so that's what you're looking at here. It's not just 754 00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:14.920 you know, if then it's okay, If it's not this, 755 00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:17.159 then it's this, and then you've got to figure out 756 00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.280 all these other pieces and how they're gonna try and fit. 757 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:25.159 Yeah, it's yeah, it's not that simple. It's unfortunately, and 758 00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.679 I think because because here's the thing as well, when 759 00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:34.679 we saw it in preseason, we everybody was excited. And 760 00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:39.199 what you were seeing in preseason was what basic structure 761 00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:42.840 of what you've done this year. It's not like you 762 00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:46.559 practice something in preseason. This isn't Ted Lasso where you 763 00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:49.599 decided to change your entire philosophy and went to like 764 00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.519 Dutch total football in the span of a week and 765 00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.559 made it work. Because it's a fictional TV. 766 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:58.239 Show, episodic characters, so one episode you get. 767 00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:00.840 Yeah, but it's it's not like you. It's not like 768 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:03.960 you went through preseason doing one thing and decided to 769 00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.199 just do an entirely different thing in the season I have. 770 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:11.880 I have no idea how to fix them though, and 771 00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.480 if I did, I'm sure I would not be sitting here. 772 00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:23.079 But I'm also I'm also not sure, uh how you know, 773 00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:26.480 I'm not sure how how they go about dealing with that, 774 00:40:26.519 --> 00:40:28.679 and I'm I and abe and I will disagree with it. 775 00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:31.679 I'm still angry about the lack of a fight and 776 00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.239 this and honestly, John, for me, it goes back to 777 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:36.639 the Nashville game last year. We talked about, you know, 778 00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:41.760 the performances that were lackluster under Rob Valentino. That Nashville 779 00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:43.519 game at home where you lost I think two nil 780 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:50.159 was one of the most disappointing performances I've ever seen 781 00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:53.559 from anyone in Atlanta United shirt because you lost to 782 00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:59.519 what was an objectively bad Nashville team and then proceeded 783 00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:03.360 to get like get manhandled by them, like they were 784 00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:07.559 throwing tackles at you, trucking your guys from behind. You 785 00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:10.519 had knocking guys down left and right, and nobody did 786 00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:12.960 a damn thing about it. Now this goes back to 787 00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.480 like y'all want to take it back to like another 788 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:17.840 sport again back in the day when the Falcons had 789 00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:20.599 these issues after Harvey Dahl left, where like Matt Ryan 790 00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:23.679 would get roughed and there was no offensive lineman like 791 00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:26.679 coming up to fight somebody. Nah, you got to protect 792 00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:29.599 a quarterback. And if in that game was Ron Rnandez, 793 00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:33.199 I think got absolutely annihilated. If Ronal Hernandez is getting 794 00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:35.719 annihilated with a cheap shot, you don't have to go 795 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.159 throw a punch, but you better damn well be in 796 00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:39.920 somebody's face and ask them if they want to have 797 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:43.199 a problem about it. And I don't think you have 798 00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:45.800 those balls right now, and that's not okay for. 799 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:49.639 Me, And that to me is another issue. 800 00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.880 You know it's well And then when Bart comes in 801 00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:55.559 an hour number two, and we'll discuss the after effects 802 00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:56.760 of that particular incident with you. 803 00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:58.039 Tom, you might want to put it on met bud, 804 00:41:58.039 --> 00:41:59.719 because we are gonna have to talk about the not 805 00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:01.960 just that game. We'll talk about other officiating, but we 806 00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:05.760 are literally bringing Bart on it. We always talk about officiatings. 807 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.960 Yes, well, and so Tom just this is just a 808 00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:11.320 fair Yeah. 809 00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:16.519 Well, but Tom, I want Tom and other stand that 810 00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:20.239 we are working two lanes of traffic. We're not combining 811 00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:24.400 the issues to create one thing to talk about. We're 812 00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:30.920 talking about instances that happen, understanding where pro is coming from, 813 00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:34.719 looking at the laws of the game, and understanding things philosophically. 814 00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:38.559 It happens to be in the context of the Atlanta 815 00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:42.280 United match, but I'm pulling it to the side. 816 00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:44.960 I'm not. I'm not. You know, the the match itself 817 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:45.599 is one thing. 818 00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:51.000 Understanding where officials are coming from with their calls, and 819 00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:53.599 understanding the laws of the game so we can all 820 00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:57.159 look at the look at the game better. That's where 821 00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.480 Bart comes in in these discussions. Yes, Bart does come 822 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:01.280 in with opinion. 823 00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:04.039 Yes, the part's gonna be mad about the team in general, 824 00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:04.800 so you'll get that too. 825 00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:08.599 Yeah, so you'll you'll get you'll get Bart's displeasure. But 826 00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:10.559 what I wanted to do and what we do with 827 00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:13.199 this segment, it just so happens. At this time, it's 828 00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:15.800 going to be more focused about events that occurred inside 829 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:19.480 the Atlanta United match. It's to understand where referees are 830 00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:23.360 coming from, where the decisions are being made and specifically 831 00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:27.000 involving review and laws of the game, and where it 832 00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:32.639 comes in. It's not necessarily putting the fault on the official. 833 00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:36.239 It's understanding where the official is coming from and understanding 834 00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.400 the laws of the game so in the future we 835 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:41.280 can all be more informed when it comes to events 836 00:43:41.480 --> 00:43:43.800 like this. That's why that's what we're talking about here. 837 00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:46.280 It's two lanes of traffic. It's not going to be 838 00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:49.199 blending them together. It just so happens that it's in 839 00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:51.599 the Atlanta United match and it gives us things to 840 00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:53.360 talk about, So that's why we do it. 841 00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:59.280 And again it's there the two lanes of traffic thing 842 00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:00.079 is also the fact. 843 00:43:59.920 --> 00:44:02.159 That yeah, like it's. 844 00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:09.480 Well ANLIO in this case, it's understanding why the call 845 00:44:09.559 --> 00:44:11.360 was made as well. And this is also why one 846 00:44:11.360 --> 00:44:13.960 of my favorite things every week and why I get 847 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.280 really pissy with this league and with pro One of 848 00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:20.039 my favorite things every week is the Saturday when they 849 00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:25.960 do like the inside video review where they talk about, 850 00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.840 you know, here's the var calls that happened this week. 851 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:33.360 And sometimes not consistently enough, but sometimes they'll like post 852 00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:35.360 the audio and the video of you can hear the 853 00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.679 var and the center RAF talking about it. And that's 854 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.440 what I want more of. I want that transparency, and 855 00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:42.440 not just transparency so we know what they're saying. This 856 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:46.719 isn't like a black a black helicopter conspiracy of I 857 00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:48.920 need to know what they're saying. So they're going, hey, 858 00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:50.840 we gotta we gotta rig it against them. No, none 859 00:44:50.840 --> 00:44:53.599 of that shit. It's a Hey, what was the process? 860 00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:56.360 What the Oh, that's what they're looking for. That's why 861 00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:59.599 they called that. Now we know going forward, Hey, if 862 00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:02.159 we get an situation like that, this is what we 863 00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:04.880 need to look for as fans because the laws of 864 00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:09.360 the game are changing every couple of years and they 865 00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.559 update descriptions and definitions, and we need to be as 866 00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.679 fans and as people in our case who are just 867 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:23.039 people yelling at clouds, we need to be aware and 868 00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:30.239 need to be educated on why Yeah, like why did 869 00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:32.480 you make Oh, you made that call because X, Y 870 00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:36.199 and Z absolutely the right decision. Cool, now we know 871 00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.599 for the future, Yeah, man, Like. 872 00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:40.719 We'll talk. 873 00:45:40.880 --> 00:45:43.280 Yeah, so yeah, we'll talk about the calls. We'll figure 874 00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:45.840 out like why they were made, what was the logic 875 00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:46.280 behind it? 876 00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:46.559 Cool? 877 00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:50.679 And again I am happy to keep talking about the 878 00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:53.920 fact that I am disappointed with and it's not the 879 00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:59.159 be all end all, Like my complaints about like my 880 00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:04.800 complaints about the the the physicality are not the be 881 00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:06.400 all end all. Obviously you have to put them on 882 00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:10.480 the back of that that's not the be all end all. 883 00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:12.840 But that is one of my complaints is that I 884 00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.920 wanted in a game like that where where I felt 885 00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:19.039 like in New England was doing what New England was 886 00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:21.760 gonna do, and that they got stuck in in the 887 00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:24.760 middle of the second half they had like they had 888 00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:28.079 like I think like five or six foulsand like a 889 00:46:28.679 --> 00:46:32.119 hilarious short amount of time they are able to break 890 00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.239 up play, and it's hard to build a rhythm when 891 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:40.280 play is getting broken up constantly. Yeah, how do you 892 00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:44.559 deal with that? If they're going to break up play 893 00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.400 on you and knock you down every time you try 894 00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:50.519 and you know, like ah we oh you want to dribble, 895 00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:53.480 you start going to the midfield. Okay, you played a 896 00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:57.519 pass and it's not a true transition moment, So it's 897 00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.079 not gonna be a yellow card situation. How do you 898 00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:02.960 deal with that when a team is just going to 899 00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:08.159 be like bashing your skull in? It's hard because yeah, 900 00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:10.360 if persistent in fringeman is gonna get called, and that's 901 00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:14.079 a discretion of the official. John. There are times for 902 00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:18.800 me like I'm I'm taking matters into my own hands. Brother, Yeah, 903 00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:22.440 that's me. That's how I'm gonna deal with this. Is 904 00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:24.559 And not to say you're gonna fight somebody, like I said, 905 00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:26.960 You're not saying you're gonna fight somebody or try and 906 00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:29.239 hurt somebody, but you're gonna get stuck in a tackle. 907 00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:33.760 You're gonna throw somebody down. And if you gotta eat 908 00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:35.559 a yellow card to do it, even if you feel 909 00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:37.400 like you shouldn't have got a yellow card, if I 910 00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.719 gotta eat a yellow card to do it, and if 911 00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:42.559 that wakes people up or maybe changes the tenor of 912 00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.400 the game a bit, then so well be it. Man 913 00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:48.400 Like yellow card received and mission accomplished. 914 00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:52.320 Yeah, And I mean, to your point, you're going into 915 00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.159 two matches on the road in Philly, and we know 916 00:47:55.159 --> 00:47:57.559 what Philly's gonna bring to the table. Philly's gonna be 917 00:47:57.559 --> 00:47:59.840 the same thing. It's gonna be slightly it's gonna be 918 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:03.039 bullsy in with Bradley Carnell with a bit of a twist. 919 00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:04.880 So we know what we're gonna have with Philly. 920 00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:08.159 With Philly, with offense and ty Baribou, it's almost like 921 00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:11.400 two separate things. It's like they've cut they've cut a line, 922 00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:13.639 and it's like there's the Philly part and then there's 923 00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:16.440 this Offense that we were trying to figure out. 924 00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:21.320 And Philly's gonna be weird too, man, because Daniel Gazdag's gone. Yeah, 925 00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.960 Like Daniel Gazdog was one of those difference makers for Philly. 926 00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:27.239 They just shipped him over to Columbus for four million 927 00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:32.519 for whatever the hell reason. I'm sorry, Rich, Sorry sorry, Rich, Like, 928 00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:35.760 I don't know why Philly does some of the things 929 00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:40.280 they do, Like I work. My concern for people like Rich, 930 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.800 the Philadelphia fans of the world, as there are a 931 00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:46.840 few of them, My concern for Philly is that they 932 00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:50.119 are going to basically end up being what Red Bulls 933 00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:57.360 were before before last year, which is a team that's 934 00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.599 gonna put together some really good stretches, some really stretches 935 00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:04.599 because it's just part of the style, I think. But 936 00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.239 then I'm worried they're not gonna have that difference making 937 00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:10.800 like Emil Forstburg was that difference maker for Red Bulls, 938 00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:12.920 like that guy who could grab the game by the 939 00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:17.000 throat that Red Bulls missed four years, Like they went 940 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.119 years without having that guy, and they tried so hard 941 00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.320 to make it work. But Philly had it, Like go 942 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:26.039 back to the the the MLS Cup final against La 943 00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:30.679 Philly had those difference makers. And if that, if that, 944 00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:33.360 if that MLS Cup haunts you the same way like 945 00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:36.679 the Super Bowl haunts me. I don't blame you because 946 00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:39.639 it was there, it was yours to win. You had 947 00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:42.400 it and Gareth Bale got off the back nine just 948 00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:46.679 long enough to ruin your hopes and dreams and that stinks. 949 00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:50.119 But I worry that Philly is not going to have 950 00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:53.840 those difference makers when it come push comes to shove 951 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:59.960 in the playoffs. But they're winning games right now, so. 952 00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:04.239 That's nice. Yeah. 953 00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:08.760 I think they lost this weekend. They lost in New York. 954 00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:11.599 Oh Philly, did they it was a one? 955 00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:13.760 Did they win or lose? There's one nil? Hang on, 956 00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:15.920 Philly has been kind of weird. Philly has been weird. 957 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:17.719 But again that's that. I think it's that style, like 958 00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:19.039 you're gonna have good and bad. 959 00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:22.920 Yeah you are, And I mean that's just it's you're 960 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:26.199 gonna have pressing, have ty Brebo scoring like nine goals, 961 00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:29.079 you know, in format, and then it's gonna be shut 962 00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:29.880 down completely. 963 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:32.199 Uh Philly lost in my C one nil. 964 00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:36.400 Yeah. Man, Okay, So this is the other thing I 965 00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:38.280 wanted to to get one of the other things that 966 00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:38.840 made me mad. 967 00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:39.119 John. 968 00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:44.079 Yeah, go back to that New York game in Atlanta, U, 969 00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:49.320 the one where everybody had their stomach pumped. Yes, I 970 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:51.840 said as that game ended, that's the kind that was 971 00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.880 the kind of game that can galvanize, galvanize a locker room, 972 00:50:55.519 --> 00:51:02.800 like you're down by two goals, you come back. That 973 00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:04.679 was the kind of thing that could have gal that 974 00:51:04.679 --> 00:51:08.199 should have that can galvanize a locker room, and then 975 00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:13.920 to draw and lose the next home matches. It just 976 00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:17.079 feels like you you let the air out of the 977 00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:20.639 balloon as quickly as possible and It's disappointing because on 978 00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:23.280 the back of that New York game, that felt like 979 00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:25.840 the kind of game where you look back on it 980 00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:27.760 and like, oh, that's when things got that's when things 981 00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:36.719 turned around, and just didn't. Man, that's disappointing, yes, because 982 00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:38.840 it felt like those should have been the moments. 983 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:42.280 Yeah, so anyway, go ahead. No, I mean, no, you're 984 00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:42.719 on a roll. 985 00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.559 I'm I'm I'm just sitting here and letting everybody what 986 00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:47.440 what else. What I also like to do with Reaction 987 00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:49.639 Mondays is just let everybody speak their piece, whether it's 988 00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:51.440 in the twitch pitch or you know, guess that come 989 00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:53.679 on on the show. I just look, say your piece, 990 00:51:53.719 --> 00:51:55.000 get it off your chest, because I don't want you 991 00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:57.920 to hang on to it. It's it's count it's counterproductive 992 00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:01.280 to the the the physical and emotion well being. So look, 993 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:04.079 whatever's on your mind, get it off your chest. Mondy toozy, 994 00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.159 that's what it's there for. Just get it bent and go. 995 00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:08.320 I mean, because you don't want to hang onto something. 996 00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.880 That's just bad bad juju. If you hang onto something 997 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:13.960 and it's all it's all there but it, you know, 998 00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:16.719 just get it off your chest. That's what reaction Mondys 999 00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:19.960 are for and you've been reacting well this morning. 1000 00:52:21.199 --> 00:52:28.119 I'm just sad. Well it should, but but it should. Yeah, 1001 00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:30.119 I mean that's the thing that it should have. That 1002 00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.559 felt like the kind of thing that would have galvanized you. 1003 00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:38.280 And then the the Dallas game was the Dallas game 1004 00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:40.360 felt more like a microcosm of the season than this 1005 00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.119 did this for I think it's the thing for me, Like, 1006 00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:45.599 my frustration is obviously about like you know, getting stuck 1007 00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:47.800 in on stuff, and I my my my issues with 1008 00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:51.760 like Caleb Porter teams in general, notwithstanding a modern Caleb Porter, 1009 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:54.639 like Portland Cable Porter was actually a lot of fun. 1010 00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:04.719 My issues with with all that basically being that Dallas 1011 00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.880 game felt more like a microcosm of Atlanta than and 1012 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:14.440 then this because that Dallas game was, that Dallas game 1013 00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.880 was you got the early penalty, great, you dominated the 1014 00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:23.119 first forty five minutes, like you should have absolutely blown 1015 00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:24.920 Dallas out of that game, and the second half should 1016 00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:27.679 have just basically been for kicks and giggles, and that 1017 00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:31.920 you didn't, you didn't finish it off. Yeah, that to 1018 00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:36.440 me felt more like that to me felt more like 1019 00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:38.079 the issue that we've seen this year of a team 1020 00:53:38.119 --> 00:53:41.559 that is really good early in games. Can't put teams away, 1021 00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:43.440 let them hang around. Somebody makes a mistake, and all 1022 00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:48.320 of a sudden, you're not winning games. So that that 1023 00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:52.559 that one felt more like it to me, and this 1024 00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:54.960 one just felt like a Oh, we gave up a 1025 00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:57.719 dumb penalty and had a really weird game against a 1026 00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:02.320 team that really had no interest in playing, and and 1027 00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:04.800 being on the back of all the other stupid stuff 1028 00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:05.800 just made it so much worse. 1029 00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:06.199 I guess. 1030 00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:09.719 Anyway, Yes, time to bring in Bart because Bart was 1031 00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:12.239 That's like I caught Bart. I surprised he was doing 1032 00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:13.599 something in the green room and I thought he was 1033 00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:16.199 diving off camera. All right, Time to bring in Bart. 1034 00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:20.159 It's our number two and Bart this morning. It's been 1035 00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:25.519 interesting because they're sad. Yeah, he's Jared is sad. He's 1036 00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:30.880 also pissed off. And what I want to do with 1037 00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:36.079 you in addition to uh talk about PTJ and another 1038 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:39.719 you know, big f a cup, get into happy thing. 1039 00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:41.039 That's John. That's a happy thing. 1040 00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:41.559 Yeah. 1041 00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:45.440 Rory mckelroy won the Masters and it was Grand Slam. 1042 00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:49.079 He looked so that was such a beautiful moment. Yeah, 1043 00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:54.719 that guy dropped to his knees crying after he Uh so, 1044 00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:58.079 I my complaint being this morning that like Bryson day 1045 00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:02.079 Chambeau is complaining into Yahoo, Rory didn't talk to me 1046 00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:04.360 the entire time. Like, yeah, Rory's trying not to throw 1047 00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:09.119 up the entire time because actively choking away the masters, 1048 00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:11.400 hitting an amazing shot and then choking it back at 1049 00:55:11.480 --> 00:55:13.760 alternating in the last five holes. He was just trying 1050 00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:14.280 to throw up. 1051 00:55:14.320 --> 00:55:17.840 Brother, He's kind of focusing on something that, ain't you. 1052 00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:20.559 Yeah, he he didn't want to talk and he has 1053 00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:22.480 a green jacket. You did want to talk and you 1054 00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:23.599 choked on the back nine. 1055 00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:28.679 Yeah, yeah, anyway, had a Bryson probably needed to focus 1056 00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:30.719 a little bit more on his own play, that's for sure. 1057 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:34.800 Yeah. So anyway, so here here's here's here's Rory's back nine. 1058 00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:42.159 By the way, Bertie Bertie Bogey Parr double Bogie, Bertie Parr, 1059 00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:44.119 Bertie Bogey. 1060 00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:46.199 That's his back nine. 1061 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:50.719 Yeah, and that double was at best. 1062 00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:52.920 Double was one of the worst shots I've ever seen 1063 00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:53.440 in my life. 1064 00:55:53.920 --> 00:55:55.639 Humboy just needed to say. 1065 00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:58.000 Dry Uh yeah, no, didn't. 1066 00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:00.840 Yeah, I was listening to it, you know. I will 1067 00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:05.840 say the golf coverage, especially on the Masters on radio 1068 00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:10.199 is really awesome. Mike Trico anchored that cover. I was 1069 00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:13.199 listening to it on my way back from refereeing last night, 1070 00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:16.760 and props to Mike Trico, Man, I think he's probably, 1071 00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:21.159 for my money, the best play by play guy out there. 1072 00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:24.599 And then you get the TV commentary with Jim Nance, 1073 00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:27.679 who is definitely the best when it comes to golf. 1074 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:32.039 That was that was fun. Hello friends, all right, so 1075 00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:34.920 what you know what we want? 1076 00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:37.119 John? What are we talking about this morning speaking of 1077 00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:38.320 up and down performances? 1078 00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:38.840 Yeah? 1079 00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:42.400 Well, what I want to do, and I mentioned this 1080 00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:46.000 in our number one is lead off is when we 1081 00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:49.960 do cards and calls and reffing down here, I want 1082 00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:52.199 it to be an education. I wanted to look at 1083 00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:56.360 the philosophy of officials and get into the thought. 1084 00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:59.199 John, how am I supposed to teach theory when they 1085 00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:00.000 don't teach practic? 1086 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:04.000 You know? And that's yeah, that's what Derek in the 1087 00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:05.239 chat this morning. 1088 00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:08.920 Uh So what this may end up being is trying 1089 00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:12.320 to get inside the head of Alexis to Silva and 1090 00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:13.440 apply it to. 1091 00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:16.519 The I don't think well, okay boy. 1092 00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:19.239 Well, but like I said, what I want to do is. 1093 00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:22.119 Or has a dusty tone that he's going to pull 1094 00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:24.159 out of like a hole in the wall that. 1095 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:28.559 Just you know, to scare, right. I feel like that's 1096 00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:31.360 what's going to happen. I used to so back in 1097 00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:33.519 a previous life when I was in grad school, I 1098 00:57:33.679 --> 00:57:38.679 tutored the student athletes of you. That was my grad assistantship, 1099 00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:42.360 if you will. And because at Lenora Ryan University they 1100 00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:45.000 made us take out least two philosophy classes on top 1101 00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:47.360 of the political philosophy class I had to take for 1102 00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:52.719 my polycy degree, you know, I got to I got 1103 00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:55.960 to tutor a lot of kids in their philosophy classes. 1104 00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:01.639 All that to say is it don't mean shit if 1105 00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:05.280 you don't apply it right. So, and that's where I 1106 00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:09.280 think we're at today with this particular conversation right on 1107 00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:11.960 multiple levels. And I hope we do go through the 1108 00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:16.480 physical thing we saw happen on the field right offside, 1109 00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:20.840 but then further, I think the more philosophical conversation. And 1110 00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:23.719 I'll shout out rob Us three, who's kind of doesn't 1111 00:58:23.760 --> 00:58:25.360 like to talk referees, but I think he hit the 1112 00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:26.480 right tone with this is. 1113 00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:29.440 Why was var. 1114 00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:33.920 Intervening here? And I think that is the philosophical conversation 1115 00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:36.880 we do need to get into is clear and obvious error? Yes, 1116 00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:40.079 where was the clear and obvious error here? 1117 00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:42.039 Right? And that's and so. 1118 00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:45.519 Let me see if I've labeled the play correctly, and 1119 00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:47.280 if I haven't, I'll dump out of it. But this 1120 00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:49.760 is the play that I wanted to get into to 1121 00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:53.199 discuss things and our starting point here with cards and 1122 00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:57.119 calls and reffing down here. If I'm not mistaken, this 1123 00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:00.000 is let me see. I think it's Josh and Jamie 1124 00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:04.119 on Apple TV and Season Pass a. 1125 00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:06.760 Lot trying to put it in on the surface I'm 1126 00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:07.079 at or. 1127 00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:14.079 Another cross going back post flipped away by Pison almroon. 1128 00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:16.280 The Galoberone. 1129 00:59:20.559 --> 00:59:25.000 Get to Albarone, so quickly just touch it back first time. 1130 00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:27.760 It gives him the space and his body positioning to 1131 00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:31.119 open up as he receives it, sets it perfectly in. 1132 00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:33.559 And this is still being checks. 1133 00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:42.840 This is going to var for possible offside. 1134 00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:46.760 And so what happened in this moment was when that 1135 00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:50.400 ball initially came in from Latte Lot, the player received 1136 00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:55.079 it for Atlanta was offside. So now before it gets 1137 00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:57.239 to Almaron, there has to be a decision. But I 1138 00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:00.639 think that ball was intentionally played back. Shouldn't a gate 1139 01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:03.840 the off side? How was an interesting decision to fall 1140 01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:04.719 with the other direction. 1141 01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:12.159 I reveal eighteen was offside position. 1142 01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:14.519 Prior to the g right on that decision. 1143 01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:21.800 So Jamie was on it from the absolute yes on 1144 01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:22.960 the call from Apple TV plus. 1145 01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:26.000 All right, let's go from the beginning. Let's walk through it. 1146 01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:31.559 So, all right, so the the part in question is 1147 01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:35.280 in Josh's call where he says the ball is flicked 1148 01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:39.239 away by Tanner best threat. That is in in Josh 1149 01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:43.760 this I'm using Josh's words here since we're since we're audio, 1150 01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:46.639 So Josh says the ball was flicked away by Tanner 1151 01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:51.800 Beeson and that was the defining action of this particular call. 1152 01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:54.559 I'm not going to get the bar yet, but that 1153 01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:58.519 is why it was referred to as off side. 1154 01:00:58.840 --> 01:00:59.280 Correct. 1155 01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:02.719 Now, well, we got into the discussion. I wanted to 1156 01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:06.679 get into the idea of deliberate action, and that is 1157 01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:10.519 where I think the defining idea is here, is defining 1158 01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:14.920 action versus basically self defense. So run through the differences 1159 01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:18.800 first and then we'll apply it to what happened in 1160 01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:19.800 the match this weekend. 1161 01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:23.119 So here, let's start with what happened as we saw 1162 01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:25.280 it on the field right, and the fact that there 1163 01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:29.880 was a bad cross set into the box shocking. That 1164 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:35.559 was the storyline for Atlanta on that day. And the 1165 01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:44.559 defender in some form or fashion gets in the way 1166 01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:48.880 of the ball, causing a deflection that goes off to 1167 01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:52.920 an offside Pedro Amadora. Pedro was in an offside position 1168 01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:58.159 when the ball was originally kicked by his teammate. What 1169 01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:00.639 we are looking at here is why did that ball 1170 01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:04.159 get to him? Because if it was a pass from 1171 01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:08.199 a kick from his teammate right, he would be in 1172 01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:15.960 an offside position in this incident, the defender I have 1173 01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:18.719 a lot of issues with this, mainly physics. 1174 01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:20.400 We got time break them down. 1175 01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:26.239 It doesn't matter mainly physics, but the defender in this case, 1176 01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:31.679 the ball clearly hits the defender. Yeah, and then the 1177 01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:35.519 ball goes not just through his legs or close by, 1178 01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:44.679 it makes a very long travel to Paedrominor And I 1179 01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:46.400 think that to me is where I'm going to get 1180 01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:51.159 the most problematic like with this interpretation. So when we 1181 01:02:51.199 --> 01:02:54.719 talk about a deliberate action, so the laws of the 1182 01:02:54.719 --> 01:02:59.800 game say a player in an offside position receiving the 1183 01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:04.119 ball from an opponent who deliberately played asterisk the ball, 1184 01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:09.000 including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained 1185 01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:14.639 an advantage unless it was a deliberate save by the goalkeeper. Right, 1186 01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:17.000 So we know that if the goalkeeper saves it, you 1187 01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:20.960 can still be offside. We know that part asterisk deliberate 1188 01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:25.920 play excluding deliberate handball, because that would obviously be a 1189 01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:30.440 free kick, is when a player has control of the 1190 01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:35.639 ball with the possibility of passing the ball to a teammate, 1191 01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:40.519 gaining possession of the ball, or clearing the ball by 1192 01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:45.760 kicking or heading it. That is parentheses. An example, if 1193 01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:48.679 the pass attempt to gain possession or clearance by the 1194 01:03:48.679 --> 01:03:52.480 player in control of the ball is inaccurate or unsuccessful, 1195 01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:55.519 which I think we can all agree that clearance was 1196 01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:57.880 both inaccurate and unsuccessful. 1197 01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:00.840 It looked like a media game clearance someone who makes 1198 01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:02.679 media game clearances. 1199 01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:08.440 If the possession or clearance is inaccurate or unsuccessful, this 1200 01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:12.119 does not negate the fact that the player deliberately played 1201 01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:17.360 the ball. So that is the general thing. Now we 1202 01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:20.719 need to get into more of the kind of referee training. 1203 01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:23.159 Part of this the following criteria should be used as 1204 01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:26.039 appropriate of indicators of when that a player was in 1205 01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:27.679 control of the ball and as a result, can be 1206 01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:30.559 considered to have quote deliberately played the ball. The ball 1207 01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:32.960 traveled from distance and the player had a clear view 1208 01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:38.920 of it. John, the cross shot whatever traveled from outside 1209 01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:40.679 of the box to about two feet in front of 1210 01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:45.119 the six right and as far as I know that player, 1211 01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:47.760 the defender, there was no one really in between him 1212 01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:50.679 and the shot. So I think that is very clearly 1213 01:04:51.760 --> 01:04:54.800 a criteria met for a deliberate action. Okay, the ball 1214 01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:56.920 was not moving quickly this one. You could have a 1215 01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:59.480 little bit of you know, it wasn't like it was 1216 01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:02.480 just pass to him. It was moving somewhat quickly, but 1217 01:05:02.519 --> 01:05:07.159 I think when you look at distance traveled, it wasn't 1218 01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:11.039 that quick. The direction of the ball was not unexpected. 1219 01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:13.920 I mean, look again, I can joke about Atlanta Nighted 1220 01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:15.960 putting in bad crosses or whatever you want to talk about, 1221 01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:18.039 but that was. 1222 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.360 And those jokes will land better than the crosses will. 1223 01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:25.119 I mean they did, but I don't think that the 1224 01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:28.320 direction of the ball was not unexpected. Right, you're defending 1225 01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:33.000 from across slash shot from the top of the penalty area. 1226 01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:36.519 That's not unexpected, and the player had time to coordinate 1227 01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:39.519 their body movement, and I e. It was not a 1228 01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:42.840 case of instinctive stretching or jumping. Now, I do think 1229 01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:46.920 that you could say this was instinctive stretching or jumping, 1230 01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:49.679 right like, that's totally a fair thing. But I think 1231 01:05:49.679 --> 01:05:51.639 when you look at the distance traveled and the speed 1232 01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:54.400 the ball was going at, and also the fact that 1233 01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:59.880 he clearly stretched to try to block a shot or 1234 01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:02.039 clear the ball, one of the two, right like, this 1235 01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:06.239 was an intentional in my opinion act. Now, intention doesn't matter, 1236 01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:08.559 but I'm saying from my view as someone who has 1237 01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:13.599 played this game for thirty years, this was intentional. 1238 01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:23.079 Right. 1239 01:06:23.639 --> 01:06:25.760 I've been playing this game since I was four, so 1240 01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:30.599 it's been a while. Again, intention doesn't matter. We're talking 1241 01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:32.960 deliberate versus attention. We can talk about John, you can 1242 01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:35.440 go argue with you know, all the other English scholars 1243 01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:38.639 about intentional versus deliberate. But anyway, for me, it was intentional. 1244 01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:40.800 But we don't care about intentional. We're looking at deliberate. 1245 01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:43.480 I think that the player had time to coordinate their 1246 01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:48.679 body movement. This clearly looked like an attempt to deliberately 1247 01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:52.360 affect the flight and travel of the ball in some 1248 01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:55.239 manner that was more than just deflect a shot. That's 1249 01:06:55.280 --> 01:06:56.960 what we're kind of looking at here, right, Like, it's 1250 01:06:56.960 --> 01:06:58.840 not like he's just getting the way to deflect a shot. 1251 01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:03.159 The ball is outside of his frame of body, right, 1252 01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:05.519 he has to type a step and a lunch to 1253 01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:09.199 get it. Yeah, he's fully fully there were multiple deliberate 1254 01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:12.800 actions here, in my opinion, beyond just playing the ball 1255 01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:16.280 and the other one John, And this is where when 1256 01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:19.400 we talk about two things that we talked about specifically 1257 01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:26.519 in this training. Playing with our feet or legs specifically, yes, 1258 01:07:27.320 --> 01:07:34.280 we give less benefit of the doubt to the defender. 1259 01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:36.960 Let's put it that way, because the sport is played 1260 01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:41.239 with our feet and legs. So a header, we're not 1261 01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:44.119 as like, yes, if you're trying to head the ball, 1262 01:07:44.119 --> 01:07:46.360 that can be deliberate, but we're understanding that heading the 1263 01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:49.039 ball is kind of like a we're just trying to 1264 01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:51.920 make a defensive action and let's see what happens. Not 1265 01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:54.199 as much in control, whereas when the ball is at 1266 01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:58.119 our feet in a sport of soccer, we assume some 1267 01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:00.760 level of control can be had because that's how we 1268 01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:06.800 played this sport. The last part is important to me 1269 01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:10.639 here the ball moving on the ground is easier to 1270 01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:14.039 play than a ball near now, John, Yes, sir, Was 1271 01:08:14.039 --> 01:08:15.360 this ball on the ground or in the air? 1272 01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:18.520 Oh? 1273 01:08:19.239 --> 01:08:21.560 I would say yes to both at times during the play, 1274 01:08:21.600 --> 01:08:25.479 but specifically specifically when Tanner Beaston touched it. 1275 01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:28.119 Where was it? It was very much to me a 1276 01:08:29.199 --> 01:08:33.319 on the ground situation, right, Like I mean again, this 1277 01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:35.319 was not something he had to control with his chest, 1278 01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:37.039 like the ball was not above his waist. 1279 01:08:37.159 --> 01:08:39.600 Yes, real point, you know, Yeah. 1280 01:08:41.159 --> 01:08:47.159 I just genuinely think that this was a missed opportunity, 1281 01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:51.359 a missed call. Now we do have provisions that you know, 1282 01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:53.399 they maybe could have said this was a safe. I 1283 01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:56.840 don't think this is a safe because while it was 1284 01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:02.600 an attempt to stop a shot, I don't think this 1285 01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:05.760 was one of those times where this was just getting 1286 01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:08.159 the way of a shot. Does that make sense? 1287 01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:08.399 Oh? 1288 01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:12.039 Absolutely, And I think his actions leading up to that 1289 01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:21.319 to me, indicate intention to try to clear the ball. Now, 1290 01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:26.720 when we talk about deliberate play, again, Walla is on 1291 01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:29.720 the ground, he is trying to play it with his feet. 1292 01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:31.760 To me, he is in control of this, whether or 1293 01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:34.199 not he actively does it, well, it says it in there. 1294 01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:38.239 This clearance doesn't have to be successful. The fact that 1295 01:09:38.359 --> 01:09:40.680 you're bad at soccer doesn't mean the offside isn't the 1296 01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:44.039 gate It because you performed the act itself doesn't matter. 1297 01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:48.119 If you're bad at performing the action, correct. 1298 01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:50.760 I think that is my problem the other thing, So 1299 01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:52.600 that is the problem with the call on the field. 1300 01:09:52.600 --> 01:09:56.359 But here's the thing. Call on the field was no offside. 1301 01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:00.960 So whether or not the ar I saw that Amador 1302 01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:04.399 was in an offside position or not, or whether or 1303 01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:06.880 not the ar assumed, well, that looked like an intentional, 1304 01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:13.239 deliberate action right from the defender, deliberate play. The call 1305 01:10:13.279 --> 01:10:15.840 on the field was no offside. So that brings us 1306 01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:16.439 to part two. 1307 01:10:16.880 --> 01:10:20.000 Okay, Part two, Var Yes. 1308 01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:23.079 And that's my question here is why did var intervene 1309 01:10:23.119 --> 01:10:24.800 in here when this did not seem like a clear 1310 01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:28.479 Because if there's debate over whether this was an attempted 1311 01:10:28.479 --> 01:10:30.720 clearance or a save, right, because we talked about that 1312 01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:32.680 save could be you just get in the way of 1313 01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:36.399 a shot. If there's even a debate of that, well 1314 01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:42.359 this is not clear and obvious then so I'm going 1315 01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:44.079 to get to Michael Hedge Commas in a second when 1316 01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:45.800 John allows me to put on my fan hat. But 1317 01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:48.479 for right now, as a referee, I think the problem 1318 01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:51.960 here is you can debate whether or not this was 1319 01:10:52.479 --> 01:10:56.319 a deliberate action, right. I don't think it's that debatable. 1320 01:10:56.359 --> 01:10:59.199 I think it's very, in my opinion, clearly a deliberate 1321 01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:01.560 action on the ball, an attempt to clear the ball. Right, 1322 01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:04.960 he had the time, he had control of his body 1323 01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:07.239 to do it, and the ball was on the ground, 1324 01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:12.359 right feet. This was an attempt to clearance with his foot. 1325 01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:14.760 That's number one. The ball was on the ground, it 1326 01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:17.039 came from a far distance, all these things that we 1327 01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:21.319 kind of go through, This was a deliberate play, right. 1328 01:11:21.479 --> 01:11:23.560 It just so happened that his bad clearance went to 1329 01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:24.720 Page romidor yeah. 1330 01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:27.079 But that's the thing. 1331 01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:29.520 It's like, just because the clearance is bad doesn't mean 1332 01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:32.560 it wasn't a yeah, it doesn't matter a clearance, and 1333 01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:34.279 it doesn't matter that it went to a player who 1334 01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:35.359 was in an offside position. 1335 01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:36.640 Correct. 1336 01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:40.479 So that is my issue then, is why did var intervene? 1337 01:11:40.800 --> 01:11:45.199 Because as we always say, and what is always told 1338 01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:49.920 to viewer slash listeners, it has to be a clear 1339 01:11:50.479 --> 01:11:57.119 and obvious error for var to intervene correct play. 1340 01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:02.119 So my issue here is John m hmm, clearly and 1341 01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:05.319 obviously Pedro Amador is in an offside position. I think 1342 01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:09.159 we all agree that we're not debating that the problem 1343 01:12:09.239 --> 01:12:13.359 is the action by the defender is neither clearly nor 1344 01:12:13.439 --> 01:12:18.960 obviously a save or a deliberate action. At very best, 1345 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.600 we can say it's somewhere debatable, which therefore means it's 1346 01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:25.960 not clear and obvious an error. It is not clearly 1347 01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:28.600 and obviously an error from what the decision on the 1348 01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:33.319 field was, and Alexis of Silva screwed it up. That's 1349 01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:35.439 just I'm sorry. I don't have anything better to say 1350 01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:38.720 about it. He deserves to be reprimanded for a lot 1351 01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:41.439 of things in this game. He poorly managed the game 1352 01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:43.600 from start to finish. And I'm sure we'll get into 1353 01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:46.800 a penalty kit call later or a lack thereof. Yeah, 1354 01:12:47.039 --> 01:12:49.159 because John, you were talking on the postgame show and 1355 01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:52.600 I was nodding over well well the ninety two nine 1356 01:12:52.680 --> 01:12:54.680 while I was both yelling at people in front of 1357 01:12:54.760 --> 01:12:57.560 me to move their butts in the h in the 1358 01:12:57.600 --> 01:12:59.479 line to get out of the parking lot. I was 1359 01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:02.600 agreeing with you, John, because but we'll get into that, 1360 01:13:03.640 --> 01:13:07.880 Alexis of Silva did not get this correct. VR should 1361 01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:11.039 not have intervened and the goal should have stood. Period 1362 01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:15.760 in a story. I'm sorry. That is not, in my opinion, controversial. 1363 01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:16.760 That is not a homer take. 1364 01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:17.600 This is a. 1365 01:13:17.720 --> 01:13:21.760 Bad application of the laws of the game and VR 1366 01:13:21.800 --> 01:13:25.199 procedure and Alexis of Silva and his specifically, I'm calling 1367 01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:27.880 him out because he was bad the entire He was 1368 01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:34.319 bad the entire game. I counted three times before halftime, 1369 01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:38.760 John that he told the new England goalkeeper to let's 1370 01:13:38.760 --> 01:13:44.520 play ive. Did he ever get any real warning for 1371 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:47.760 a yellow card? I believe you know damn well that 1372 01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:51.760 as soon as Brad Guzanne would have wasted two seconds 1373 01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:55.039 on a goalkick yellow card to him. And this continues 1374 01:13:55.079 --> 01:13:58.840 my issue with with referees clearly not understanding what the 1375 01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:00.439 hell of players trying to do in the field. 1376 01:14:02.359 --> 01:14:05.439 Okay, so now that we have gone through that particular play, 1377 01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:06.399 do you. 1378 01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:07.800 Want to put your fan hat on or do you 1379 01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:10.560 want to talk about your your PK question. 1380 01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:13.079 Yeah, well I'll talk about the fan I'll do the 1381 01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:14.039 fan hat after we've. 1382 01:14:13.920 --> 01:14:17.479 Talked about it. Because yeah, you do both some fun because. 1383 01:14:17.920 --> 01:14:20.920 Because we have well you got forty minutes, we got 1384 01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:21.680 forty five minutes here. 1385 01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:24.239 Well, my fan hat is just he's was terrible all game. 1386 01:14:24.359 --> 01:14:24.560 Yeah. 1387 01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:27.239 The referee hat is he did not manage the game 1388 01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:30.319 well right from start to finish. And something we'll talk 1389 01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:31.680 about when it comes to penalty kicks. 1390 01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:33.640 Right, So we'll get to the penalty kick in a bit, 1391 01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:36.960 because that's down the line of game management. 1392 01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:40.439 Yeah, I want to. I want to get into when it. 1393 01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:42.720 There's another term we talked about. It was the word 1394 01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:43.199 of the day. 1395 01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:47.560 John, Yes, game management when you have and when you 1396 01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:52.239 have I you know, I don't I frankly do not 1397 01:14:52.479 --> 01:14:57.359 know how Alexis de Silva manages a match. 1398 01:14:58.520 --> 01:14:59.960 And I don't know if. 1399 01:15:00.039 --> 01:15:00.920 The neat party doesn't. 1400 01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:06.119 Well, yeah, that's there, It's right, So I mean it's so, 1401 01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:07.239 what was it? 1402 01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:08.359 What was it? Pro reference? 1403 01:15:08.560 --> 01:15:11.960 There were thirty fouls called in the game total, which 1404 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:15.159 is a lot even for what's his name that we 1405 01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:19.399 had against Cincinnati. That would be a lot for him. 1406 01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:22.920 Yeah, because he loves well you re Senda Mendosa. I 1407 01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:25.199 think it was twenty seven and a half. Yeah, thirty 1408 01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:26.960 fouls is a lot of fouls to call. 1409 01:15:26.880 --> 01:15:27.199 In a game. 1410 01:15:27.399 --> 01:15:30.039 Let's just not quick trigger, Chris pencul. 1411 01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:32.560 Yeah, right, that was a lot of fouls, like clearly 1412 01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:36.319 when the when the the problem is when the the 1413 01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:38.880 allocation is ten to twenty. 1414 01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:40.920 Yeah, that's bad. 1415 01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:45.079 And only one time did I see anything so new 1416 01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:47.119 only got two yellow cards. One is for a very 1417 01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:50.439 deliberate foul, it seemed like, and I don't know if 1418 01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:51.600 the other one was for. 1419 01:15:51.640 --> 01:15:54.840 The other one was for time wasting because it was 1420 01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:57.199 after it was in that series of fouls, and I 1421 01:15:57.199 --> 01:15:59.279 thought it had been given for a persistent friendship. 1422 01:15:59.279 --> 01:15:59.760 I thought it was. 1423 01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:02.960 It was not. One of the players kicked the ball 1424 01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:06.159 into Henry County after the whistle blew. 1425 01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:09.760 Okay, so then that's we don't talk about that. There 1426 01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:12.479 was a time, John that I think what stuck out 1427 01:16:12.479 --> 01:16:13.920 to me was it was in the second half. It 1428 01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:16.840 was not super late, but it was late enough. Alexi 1429 01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:20.640 got taken out, and I mean taken out. There was 1430 01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:22.239 no attempt to play the ball. To me, it was 1431 01:16:22.279 --> 01:16:28.119 a very reckless challenge. And Da Silva decides that instead 1432 01:16:28.119 --> 01:16:30.159 of giving a yellow card for a reckless challenge, he 1433 01:16:30.239 --> 01:16:33.600 warns the player, that's your third time no more. That 1434 01:16:33.720 --> 01:16:38.119 is a yellow card Foulah, that wasn't a persistent infringement. 1435 01:16:38.159 --> 01:16:41.439 It wasn't because one thing New England, the entire game 1436 01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:45.720 got to just run people over with no real uh 1437 01:16:46.640 --> 01:16:49.840 you know, punishment for it other than a foul sometimes 1438 01:16:50.279 --> 01:16:53.159 sometimes because there could have been way more fouls called 1439 01:16:53.199 --> 01:16:56.079 let's just put it that way on New England. But 1440 01:16:56.159 --> 01:16:58.079 that moment, right there was an example of the silver 1441 01:16:58.279 --> 01:17:00.960 not managing this game while at all because he was 1442 01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:03.239 it felt like he was so in over his head. 1443 01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:05.680 He didn't know how to deal with this. Because that 1444 01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:07.960 was a moment I forget the player. But it was 1445 01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:10.239 on Alexia Moranchuk and it was in the middle of 1446 01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:13.239 the field, but it was Moran Chuck's running by him 1447 01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:15.000 and the guy just sticks his leg out in Tripson, 1448 01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:17.960 there was no attempt to win the ball. It was 1449 01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:20.119 just to rind a foul. So it's not stopping a 1450 01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:23.159 promising attack, but it's a reckless foul. It's a yellow card, 1451 01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:26.399 especially that the game right when you can go what 1452 01:17:26.439 --> 01:17:29.680 are you doing here? But instead he tries to warn 1453 01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:32.880 him about persistent were past persistent infringement? One that was 1454 01:17:32.920 --> 01:17:35.680 your twenty eighth fucking fallib game. 1455 01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:40.159 Sorry, I already blew, already blew the I blew the 1456 01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:43.600 language thing like good again, like a couple a couple 1457 01:17:43.640 --> 01:17:44.319 of minutes in here. 1458 01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:48.000 Monologue, Jared already gave us the EA. It's all good. 1459 01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:50.520 Look at the standings and I'm allowed to say that word. 1460 01:17:51.359 --> 01:17:53.399 Yeah, I mean again, you are as good as your 1461 01:17:53.399 --> 01:17:54.880 record is right now. 1462 01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:58.920 But that was not a persistent infringement thing. That was 1463 01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:02.880 a yellow card foul in the moment, and he decided 1464 01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:06.479 to talk about that just it showed how out of 1465 01:18:06.520 --> 01:18:09.640 his I don't I don't know if he was locked 1466 01:18:09.640 --> 01:18:13.399 in or not, but like it was bad. It was 1467 01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:17.560 just bad refereeing from start to finish. You know, you 1468 01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:21.119 you can you can. Look, you're gonna have games that 1469 01:18:21.119 --> 01:18:23.079 are gonna have a lot of fouls, right, especially against 1470 01:18:23.119 --> 01:18:25.680 New England and Klea Porter. Calea Porter is a bad 1471 01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:27.439 soccer coach at this point in time. I don't know 1472 01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:30.199 why people keep hiring him. He had great success in 1473 01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:30.920 in Portland. 1474 01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:32.439 Portland teams were fun man. 1475 01:18:32.600 --> 01:18:35.439 Yes, name a successful stint he's had since sint. 1476 01:18:35.640 --> 01:18:40.319 You can't he won a Cup in Columbus during COVID, Right, 1477 01:18:40.359 --> 01:18:44.239 he did do that, but that was also like that 1478 01:18:44.439 --> 01:18:47.319 was kind of at the leading edge to Columbus is 1479 01:18:47.399 --> 01:18:49.640 actually spending money and doing fun things. 1480 01:18:49.760 --> 01:18:53.159 Yeah, that's right. He did win a COVID. 1481 01:18:52.920 --> 01:18:57.840 Cut, Yes he did. And that was also that that 1482 01:18:57.920 --> 01:19:00.479 team was very good. Yeah, and but the but they 1483 01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:03.800 were more defensive because he has. 1484 01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:07.479 Gotten more and more and offensive he has. I mean, 1485 01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:11.600 you look at you remember those he just I mean, look, 1486 01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:14.079 he just hasn't, in my opinion, been a great coach 1487 01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:15.560 and quite some time. 1488 01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:18.880 I know he won a game like this here a 1489 01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:21.159 couple of years ago with Columbus. It came to it. 1490 01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:23.239 Go back and look up. There's a game that Columbus 1491 01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:25.880 being Atlanta to nil at home. They scored like the 1492 01:19:25.920 --> 01:19:28.920 third minute on a long ball that connected. Oh yeah, yeah, 1493 01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:32.399 didn't he basically shut up shop. They chose basically not 1494 01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:35.119 to play and were just hitting long balls. Connected on 1495 01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:38.000 another belong ball late in the game and won it 1496 01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:41.560 to nil and like just like they were time wasting 1497 01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:45.960 from like the twentieth minute. Yep, he had no it 1498 01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:49.439 was if I get an early lead, were shutting up shop. 1499 01:19:49.640 --> 01:19:54.119 Yeah, that was like the the Schmitzer match with Seattle 1500 01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:55.479 at Mercedes Bens as well. 1501 01:19:57.039 --> 01:19:57.439 You have. 1502 01:19:57.920 --> 01:20:01.239 You know, we talk about and we talked about game 1503 01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:07.960 management and missing calls and misapplication of rules and VAAR 1504 01:20:08.039 --> 01:20:12.359 interventions and it's just it was, Frankly, it was all 1505 01:20:12.399 --> 01:20:15.840 over the place when it came to when it came 1506 01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:21.880 to this particular crew. And I'm going to and I 1507 01:20:21.880 --> 01:20:23.319 will go ahead and say this, I'm going to go 1508 01:20:23.359 --> 01:20:27.439 ahead and send a note and ask about the review process. 1509 01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:29.199 I want to know if it is a yearly. 1510 01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:35.199 Hopefully we get the Saturday Inside Inside the Pro thing 1511 01:20:35.199 --> 01:20:36.399 for Greg Barkley, but we'll. 1512 01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:39.119 See inside the inside the ref studio where it's a 1513 01:20:39.159 --> 01:20:39.880 news Yeah. 1514 01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:43.000 Well James Lifton should be brought back from the dead. 1515 01:20:42.800 --> 01:20:45.279 And host that though. Yeah, that'd be pretty good. 1516 01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:47.600 So John, I do want to before we move on 1517 01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:51.279 to Yes, to David's point, Lucas Lerian was on those 1518 01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:54.720 Columbus teams and Lucas zell Rion was basically a banshee 1519 01:20:54.840 --> 01:21:00.720 possessed by the devil himself. And yeah, that those Columbus 1520 01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:02.680 team was unholy anyway, go ahead. 1521 01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:04.680 Yeah, Columbus was. I mean that, look you get one 1522 01:21:04.680 --> 01:21:06.159 of the butt I mean he has one now with 1523 01:21:06.199 --> 01:21:09.439 Carlos Hill, like right, like he the entire game plan 1524 01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:11.840 for New England, Carlos Hill does something brilliant. 1525 01:21:12.239 --> 01:21:13.880 Yes, and to be. 1526 01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:16.880 Fair to Atlanta, he had one one shot that was 1527 01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:19.960 like oh and it really wasn't even that bad. 1528 01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:20.720 John. 1529 01:21:20.760 --> 01:21:24.680 I want to say this, how many fouls? What was 1530 01:21:24.840 --> 01:21:29.159 how many fouls was the highest total do you think 1531 01:21:29.199 --> 01:21:32.079 New England had coming into this game per like one game? 1532 01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:33.640 What was it you think the highest total of all 1533 01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:40.840 let's see so season this season. I'm guessing probably sixteen sixteen. Yeah, 1534 01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:43.199 that was again, that was in a loss to Columbus. 1535 01:21:43.800 --> 01:21:45.479 Oh wow, I got it right, like out of the 1536 01:21:45.880 --> 01:21:46.840 that was a loss. 1537 01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:51.399 To Columbus at home back in March. First. Okay, sixteen 1538 01:21:51.479 --> 01:21:52.439 is a lot of fouls. 1539 01:21:52.640 --> 01:21:55.279 Uh huh, Yeah, that's true. 1540 01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:00.000 Twenty fouls in one game. That's obscene, that's that's grotesque, 1541 01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:03.039 and for the referee to only give two yellow cards 1542 01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:04.319 is embarrassing. 1543 01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:06.760 So we talked about this. I talked about it after 1544 01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:11.880 the game, and God, I don't have the I don't 1545 01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:14.319 have enough headache medicine for this today. To get to 1546 01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:17.039 get shouted down on this, not by YouTube but everyone else, 1547 01:22:17.119 --> 01:22:19.560 not just on the chat, but in the world, I 1548 01:22:19.560 --> 01:22:21.359 have to get on an airplane in like a couple 1549 01:22:21.479 --> 01:22:26.279 hours anyway, to your point, the well, the thing I 1550 01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:28.560 think the thing that annoyed me about the game management 1551 01:22:28.600 --> 01:22:30.880 side of not just one particular call, but like the 1552 01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:33.600 game management side of it is you have and this 1553 01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:38.760 goes to a thing with Red Bulls, with Philadelphia all 1554 01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:42.079 those things. You have to know who you're I think 1555 01:22:42.199 --> 01:22:45.479 I think referees have to know who they're officiating, yes, 1556 01:22:47.079 --> 01:22:50.279 because like if you're officiating Philly or New York, you 1557 01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:52.079 know you're going to be in for like, oh my god, 1558 01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:55.399 I'm like that I'm gonna have like blisters from blowing 1559 01:22:55.439 --> 01:22:57.399 this whistle because I'm gonna be doing it so much. 1560 01:22:57.439 --> 01:22:59.960 Because everybody in their mother is going to be commit 1561 01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:05.560 a foul a day. But a Caleb Porter team is 1562 01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:09.399 going to commit all of the fouls in this situation. 1563 01:23:09.439 --> 01:23:10.800 When they have a one, they'll lead on the road, 1564 01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:16.960 and they basically refuse to If Atlanta turned on the 1565 01:23:16.960 --> 01:23:18.840 ball in the midfield, played more than one pass in 1566 01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:21.039 the midfield, it was hack them down. Hack them down. 1567 01:23:21.800 --> 01:23:23.760 It's hard to get a I don't know how to 1568 01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:26.000 also explain that it's hard to get a flow in 1569 01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:29.880 a sport when in a sport that's built on rhythm 1570 01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:33.279 when there is no rhythm. 1571 01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:35.239 Correct, which was the entire point of their second half. 1572 01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:39.319 Yes, and that's not like to make an excuse because look, 1573 01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:41.399 yeah Atlanta Ship put the ball in net. Yes, I 1574 01:23:41.439 --> 01:23:43.520 agree with this, the thing that people keep yelling at me, 1575 01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:45.000 I'm not disagreeing with you. 1576 01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:49.319 We have Yeah, we haven't a fan reaction part yet. 1577 01:23:49.359 --> 01:23:52.880 Well you have, like we're talking referring at this point 1578 01:23:52.880 --> 01:23:53.159 in time. 1579 01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:56.119 Yes, I agree, but it's tough. It's tough to build 1580 01:23:56.159 --> 01:24:01.880 a rhythm when when you're literally anytime you try and 1581 01:24:01.960 --> 01:24:06.000 build anything positive that you just can't. We see it 1582 01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:08.600 in basketball when you're like and we get pissed off 1583 01:24:08.560 --> 01:24:11.640 from basketball if a referee starts getting a really tight whistle, 1584 01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:14.600 like let the game flow, well, but we want to 1585 01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:16.479 see what we want to see the game. Uh. 1586 01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:18.880 By the way, d Silva averages courtesy of our friends 1587 01:24:18.880 --> 01:24:22.039 at who scored. I finally found it. Da Silva averages 1588 01:24:22.079 --> 01:24:24.199 twenty three fouls per match called. 1589 01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:26.640 So he should have felt that this was a lot 1590 01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:33.000 of foul. Like seriously, as a referee, you should have 1591 01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:37.199 an awareness of, oh, this is getting too many fouls, 1592 01:24:37.399 --> 01:24:40.439 and you should also have an awareness of silly fouls 1593 01:24:40.479 --> 01:24:43.239 the other one or two one or either team or committee, 1594 01:24:43.239 --> 01:24:49.840 because this happens all the time where one a team does. 1595 01:24:50.479 --> 01:24:51.800 They may not do it all the time, but it 1596 01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:53.399 just comes up to a game where they're doing a 1597 01:24:53.439 --> 01:24:56.159 certain thing a lot and you're like, we can't be 1598 01:24:56.199 --> 01:24:58.840 doing this, y'all. And at no point that he say, hey, 1599 01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:00.920 you can't actually run through the back of a guy 1600 01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:03.560 and go and it foul him because he called that 1601 01:25:03.640 --> 01:25:06.880 a lot. John another set when it comes to fouls. 1602 01:25:07.359 --> 01:25:10.520 Leo Campana, Yes, on the field for thirty three minutes, 1603 01:25:10.560 --> 01:25:13.479 replaces Max Rudi, by the way, who got a yellow card. 1604 01:25:14.039 --> 01:25:18.359 Rudy committed two thousand and fifty seven minutes. Compana committed 1605 01:25:18.479 --> 01:25:22.000 three fouls in thirty three minutes. Let's a foul every 1606 01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:24.640 eleven minutes on top of everything else. No, yeah, no 1607 01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:25.359 yellow card? 1608 01:25:25.680 --> 01:25:27.920 Right, yeah. 1609 01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:29.920 That's one of those things, is three fouls over the 1610 01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:33.840 span of ninety minutes. Like Matt Polster, Okay, sure that's 1611 01:25:33.840 --> 01:25:37.600 not three thousand and thirty three minutes. You committed three 1612 01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:40.039 fouls after you came onto the field halfway through the 1613 01:25:40.079 --> 01:25:43.439 second half. Bro, you gotta do something about that. And 1614 01:25:43.479 --> 01:25:48.319 that that kind of encapsulates Alexis of Silva's inability to 1615 01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:50.399 manage the match that was played in front of them. 1616 01:25:50.520 --> 01:25:54.239 Yeah, and I think it was Michael's quite you know 1617 01:25:54.199 --> 01:25:56.920 a thing about like it if owner would ownership like 1618 01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:02.520 ownership complaining about pro and two pro and look, one 1619 01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:06.239 of the things that I think put Atlanta in trouble 1620 01:26:06.600 --> 01:26:11.640 at one point in like twenty nineteen was when Darren 1621 01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:14.199 Eels used to do his weekly segment on ninety two 1622 01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:17.800 to nine. More than once he went on ninety two 1623 01:26:17.840 --> 01:26:20.720 to nine and put PRO on blast, Like there was 1624 01:26:20.760 --> 01:26:25.640 a sequence of games in twenty nineteen where Atlanta got 1625 01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:29.760 screwed by the whistle and back then PRO didn't have 1626 01:26:29.960 --> 01:26:32.640 like the whole transparency thing about. Here were the calls 1627 01:26:32.680 --> 01:26:35.920 this week. Apparently the league just reached out to Atlanta, 1628 01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:39.560 was like, hey are bad, like PRO likes prose apologizing 1629 01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:43.560 for this and like did it quietly And apparently Darren 1630 01:26:43.560 --> 01:26:46.000 Eils used to just put that on blasts for anyone 1631 01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:48.439 who wanted it on the radio. That Pro reached out 1632 01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:50.479 to us this week, it said they screwed up, not 1633 01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:53.960 that it doesn't sitny good now so they are ready. 1634 01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:57.039 They've never really been afraid of doing that. 1635 01:26:58.479 --> 01:27:01.439 Well, and that's them. Here is what are we gonna 1636 01:27:01.439 --> 01:27:01.880 get from pro? 1637 01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:02.039 Oh? 1638 01:27:02.159 --> 01:27:05.760 Sorry, and this is where I'm I'm gonna pro You 1639 01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:09.439 need to do better at training your referees in week 1640 01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:11.600 in and week out. Alexis to Silva needs to be 1641 01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:15.079 meeting with someone to coach him through why this game 1642 01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:19.760 what happened? Because I'm sorry the application of OAR was terrible. 1643 01:27:20.199 --> 01:27:23.560 But that's besides the fact that he managed this game 1644 01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:28.119 poorly from start to finish. He just did especially John 1645 01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:30.279 to your point that I loved when we were talking 1646 01:27:30.279 --> 01:27:37.199 about the penalty kick that didn't happen that Carlos Hill 1647 01:27:37.279 --> 01:27:41.319 got right, Okay this one, yeah, because they're connected, Yeah 1648 01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:44.520 they are. Your point was sure it's a foul and 1649 01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:46.439 Abe was like, yeah it foul. Yeah, it's a foul. 1650 01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:49.319 Within the grand scheme of things that was not a 1651 01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:55.239 foul for New England multiple times, including a late game 1652 01:27:55.319 --> 01:27:59.520 foul where Stean Gregorson has stepped on from behind and 1653 01:27:59.560 --> 01:28:01.520 then Newlyn almost gets the second goal out of it. 1654 01:28:01.640 --> 01:28:04.479 So you mean, where was var to interview in that place? 1655 01:28:04.680 --> 01:28:05.600 So you might want to know? 1656 01:28:05.880 --> 01:28:08.319 So you mean this play late in the match courtesy 1657 01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:10.560 once again of Josh and Jamie on Apple TV plus 1658 01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:12.279 an MLS still. 1659 01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:14.960 Alive Ringgerson goes down, there's. 1660 01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:18.359 No whistle and now it's a playaway for New Englands. 1661 01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:24.479 Lookmppana for the Revolution one on one with Gusin camp Pana. 1662 01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:34.399 It's taken by Gusin. Yeah, so that was the play 1663 01:28:34.399 --> 01:28:36.119 for it. That's the play I think you're referring to. 1664 01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:38.880 Yeah, so if you're gonna call that penalty kick for 1665 01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:43.039 an offensive player who's again same thing, kind of right, 1666 01:28:43.159 --> 01:28:48.960 dribbling away from goal out of the penalty area, But 1667 01:28:49.159 --> 01:28:50.840 then you're not gonna. 1668 01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:51.680 Call it there? 1669 01:28:52.600 --> 01:28:54.520 What are you doing? What are you doing? 1670 01:28:54.840 --> 01:28:55.199 That is? 1671 01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:58.159 That is the lack of consistency And again, why didn't 1672 01:28:58.159 --> 01:29:00.319 a vaer step in there? Was it not a foul? 1673 01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:03.600 That's a clear and obvious area. But it's clear and 1674 01:29:03.600 --> 01:29:07.640 obvious to call back a goal because you may or 1675 01:29:07.680 --> 01:29:09.760 may not think that there possibly maybe it was the 1676 01:29:09.840 --> 01:29:11.239 same versus a deliberate action. 1677 01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:14.079 Also, I'm gonna put my bro I'm gonna put my 1678 01:29:14.119 --> 01:29:15.800 broadcaster hat on for a minute. 1679 01:29:16.119 --> 01:29:16.560 Yeah, and. 1680 01:29:18.399 --> 01:29:24.279 Bitch about the I think is it Louisa brom who 1681 01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:25.880 comes back and makes that stuff? 1682 01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:29.479 It is Louisa Brom gets on his horse. 1683 01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:31.520 Oh yeah, that's the only time he's ran in his 1684 01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:32.199 entire career. 1685 01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:34.079 Here careful, Yeah. 1686 01:29:33.960 --> 01:29:37.600 Brom was Brom is a quiet little field mouse, But 1687 01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:42.279 a Brom isn't making bomb scared decisions like Derek Williams 1688 01:29:42.319 --> 01:29:44.960 has been. So I'm good with it to an extent. 1689 01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:52.439 But dude, like the broadcast, like you know, saw Louisa 1690 01:29:52.520 --> 01:29:56.199 Brom running eighty five miles to take that ball off 1691 01:29:56.239 --> 01:29:59.039 of him in a one v one What the hell? 1692 01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:02.560 Like you don't know, soul that don't know sell that 1693 01:30:03.880 --> 01:30:06.760 there's just I was irate at the at the at 1694 01:30:06.760 --> 01:30:09.640 the play by play call there of like it goes 1695 01:30:09.680 --> 01:30:12.720 Ane stops it. No, Louisa Brom rate eighty five miles 1696 01:30:12.760 --> 01:30:14.760 and pulled it back and kept his team in it. 1697 01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:20.159 I would dude, I am still irate at the way 1698 01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:23.079 that moment was called. And yeah, like Guzanne gets to 1699 01:30:23.159 --> 01:30:26.800 it and like turtles over it. Great job that defender, 1700 01:30:27.079 --> 01:30:31.800 Like he in that situation, I've seen defenders say as 1701 01:30:31.840 --> 01:30:36.800 screw it, I got better things to do with my life. 1702 01:30:37.079 --> 01:30:40.720 Don't know, Sell this dude running that far back and 1703 01:30:40.840 --> 01:30:46.640 trying to keep his team in it. Yep, just absolutely 1704 01:30:47.000 --> 01:30:50.319 awful play by play work, and you should be embarrassed. 1705 01:30:51.520 --> 01:30:55.439 A man that has nothing to do with the game. 1706 01:30:55.720 --> 01:30:57.960 I'm just pissy about it right now because you get 1707 01:30:57.960 --> 01:31:00.520 a cool moment like that and you know, sell that shit. 1708 01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:05.319 No, no, Jared's not allowing no selling when it comes 1709 01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:08.800 to effort Lake the man. All right, So we have 1710 01:31:08.880 --> 01:31:13.199 discussed var We have discussed uh, the laws of the 1711 01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:14.960 game or nothing else. 1712 01:31:15.119 --> 01:31:17.199 If you didn't see it, and you didn't see the 1713 01:31:17.239 --> 01:31:20.800 brom take it, didn't dunk on Campana for just being 1714 01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:22.920 bad at his job, because. 1715 01:31:25.079 --> 01:31:27.319 I mean he dribbled that ball into Brad's chest, no 1716 01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:28.039 offense to Brad. 1717 01:31:28.199 --> 01:31:29.319 That was bad. 1718 01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:32.439 It was like, don't on him for that. Oh man 1719 01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:39.159 didn't do that. I'm cool with it, But come on, man, 1720 01:31:39.239 --> 01:31:41.640 like you're no selling that moment of a game. If 1721 01:31:41.680 --> 01:31:45.760 Atlanta had gone down and found a late equalizer, you 1722 01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:48.840 had nothing of that call to use as being a 1723 01:31:48.880 --> 01:31:53.119 turning point or a defender backtracked his ass off to 1724 01:31:53.239 --> 01:31:58.359 try and save things. Just come on, give me the 1725 01:31:58.399 --> 01:32:02.640 emotion the moment deserve. For God's sake. I'm not asking 1726 01:32:02.680 --> 01:32:06.199 for a lot from you, just but apparently I am. 1727 01:32:06.399 --> 01:32:11.239 Apparently you are yes, So I'm trying to think of 1728 01:32:11.960 --> 01:32:14.039 So we talked about game management. We talked about the 1729 01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:18.319 iniquity of calls, and that to me, the the the 1730 01:32:18.439 --> 01:32:23.359 lack of logic applied. If once and once again I 1731 01:32:23.399 --> 01:32:27.680 will I will stipulate that to me, the Carlos heel 1732 01:32:27.720 --> 01:32:29.840 call was correct. It was just inside the eighteen where 1733 01:32:29.840 --> 01:32:32.079 you call that for a penalty, I'm fine. I know 1734 01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:33.600 that there were some angles where he gave you a 1735 01:32:33.640 --> 01:32:36.199 bit of a question about contact and lack thereof, but no, 1736 01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:38.199 but if you're gonna call the Carlos heel and that 1737 01:32:38.319 --> 01:32:40.680 being soft, that was I mean, it was a bump, 1738 01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:42.800 but it was soft. Then at the same time that 1739 01:32:42.840 --> 01:32:45.680 logic needs to be applied and it wasn't across the 1740 01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:50.279 board here in multiple correct, So that was not applied. 1741 01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:52.479 When it came to that. And then just the the idea. 1742 01:32:52.279 --> 01:32:56.960 Of game management, where you know, and and I think 1743 01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:59.760 that you're going to see in the next couple of 1744 01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:01.880 months on the road. You're gonna see it in Philly 1745 01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:05.479 because of how Philly operates. One surprised me if you 1746 01:33:05.479 --> 01:33:07.880 saw it in Orlando, because Oscar pere Hi is no dummy. 1747 01:33:07.920 --> 01:33:09.560 He's gonna look at film and he's gonna sit there 1748 01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:11.399 and go, okay, we can bump them around and it's 1749 01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:14.920 not gonna get called. And so you're setting you're setting 1750 01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:18.239 an idea up the next couple of matches here where okay, 1751 01:33:19.239 --> 01:33:21.199 and I think that this is a test of pro 1752 01:33:21.359 --> 01:33:24.039 and whoever's going to be in the middle here okay. 1753 01:33:24.159 --> 01:33:28.119 So the teams were physical and it wasn't called until 1754 01:33:28.119 --> 01:33:29.479 it was and then it was too late. 1755 01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:31.920 The other the other element that I have in here. 1756 01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:39.680 Is this, among others, the matteas click yellow first it well. 1757 01:33:39.560 --> 01:33:42.600 He earned it. We hearked about this, We talked about 1758 01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:44.880 this part. I was happy with it. I needed someone 1759 01:33:44.880 --> 01:33:47.000 to put someone's ass on the ground and he ate 1760 01:33:47.039 --> 01:33:50.000 that yellow, and good. Someone needed to do it. But 1761 01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:51.880 someone needed to do it forty minutes earlier. 1762 01:33:51.920 --> 01:33:55.359 But the issue separate from that discussing it from a 1763 01:33:55.399 --> 01:33:58.159 refereeing standpoint. 1764 01:33:58.279 --> 01:34:01.880 Is jumping to the ground. It's yellow up. You're eating 1765 01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:04.920 that yellow intentionally. You're eating that yellow to send a message. 1766 01:34:05.439 --> 01:34:08.359 It's the right call. Call the yellow. It's fine. I 1767 01:34:08.359 --> 01:34:12.039 have no beef with it. Sorry, John, but I'm but 1768 01:34:12.079 --> 01:34:14.039 I'm not I'm not. I'm not debating that one being 1769 01:34:14.079 --> 01:34:15.319 a yellow man. 1770 01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:18.000 No, no, the game, No, I'm not. I'm not debating 1771 01:34:18.039 --> 01:34:20.319 the yellow either. I'm glad that Mateya's Click ended up 1772 01:34:20.359 --> 01:34:23.800 hip checking somebody and sending a message. But the notion 1773 01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:27.399 that you're going to give that card that late and 1774 01:34:27.479 --> 01:34:31.279 not considering the other action that happened in the match. 1775 01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:34.640 You're gonna give a yellow late to Matea's Click for 1776 01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:37.159 what he did, but along the line of the match 1777 01:34:37.239 --> 01:34:42.359 going backward for other for other events that were just 1778 01:34:42.479 --> 01:34:43.279 as physical. 1779 01:34:43.520 --> 01:34:46.399 You did nothing right and that again that's my issue, 1780 01:34:46.399 --> 01:34:48.800 as there were other There is at least two other 1781 01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:55.920 obvious cautionable offenses that New England committed. Yeah, that we're 1782 01:34:56.000 --> 01:34:59.560 not cautioned. Click did what he did because he knew 1783 01:34:59.560 --> 01:35:02.000 what he was doing. I'm gonna I'm gonna switch into 1784 01:35:02.119 --> 01:35:05.000 fan mode real quick here because I'm sorry. I'm pissed 1785 01:35:05.039 --> 01:35:10.720 as hale. That is the stuff that Bart Sleish needs 1786 01:35:10.720 --> 01:35:13.039 to be doing. I'm real sorry, and. 1787 01:35:13.319 --> 01:35:15.880 Don't be because we're we're I think we are about 1788 01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:17.479 to have the same conversation. 1789 01:35:18.199 --> 01:35:23.720 Because I know Click has been sick, hurt sick again, right, 1790 01:35:23.800 --> 01:35:26.760 He's the dude has not been healthy for five minutes 1791 01:35:26.800 --> 01:35:32.319 since coming into Atlanta apparently, John, I think my issue 1792 01:35:32.680 --> 01:35:36.680 and Jared, it seems like Bart Sleish is a very 1793 01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:39.479 good soccer player. The dude is talented, He's got skill. 1794 01:35:41.399 --> 01:35:43.960 My question just comes to and this is where we're 1795 01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:46.039 at at the season, right because, Jarrett, as you said, 1796 01:35:46.039 --> 01:35:48.319 and I've said plenty of times during the last couple 1797 01:35:48.359 --> 01:35:50.159 of years, when y'all swear to tell me that these 1798 01:35:50.319 --> 01:35:52.720 this team is good, you're only as good as your 1799 01:35:52.760 --> 01:35:56.920 record shows. Correct, Yeah, right now, right now, you are 1800 01:35:56.920 --> 01:36:00.399 not a good soccer team because you are well below 1801 01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:03.000 the playoff line. You don't win consistently at home. You're 1802 01:36:03.039 --> 01:36:07.520 coughing up points at home right to bad teams. Dallas, 1803 01:36:07.640 --> 01:36:11.319 okay whatever, still should have beat them, right. 1804 01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:12.640 I don't know if you. I don't know if you 1805 01:36:12.680 --> 01:36:15.119 were here. When I said earlier Dallas felt like the 1806 01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:17.479 real micro cosm of the season, where you dominated the 1807 01:36:17.520 --> 01:36:19.760 first forty five minutes, didn't put the game away, did 1808 01:36:19.760 --> 01:36:23.720 something stupid and correct and gave it away. This one 1809 01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:26.479 felt more like just a like we are in mister 1810 01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:27.159 Magoo land. 1811 01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:31.000 Correct, But you're a bad team right now, sorry, you 1812 01:36:31.079 --> 01:36:34.520 just are. Yeah, what does the record show? Because if 1813 01:36:34.520 --> 01:36:37.359 we're calling new England a bad team. You're not that 1814 01:36:37.479 --> 01:36:39.199 much better and they just beat you. So you know, 1815 01:36:39.439 --> 01:36:41.359 it is what it is. We haven't scored from open play. 1816 01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:43.359 Now you can debate if it should have counted or not, 1817 01:36:43.479 --> 01:36:46.000 but haven't scored from open play in two damn matches. 1818 01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:52.720 At some point someone has to start making decisions because 1819 01:36:52.720 --> 01:36:54.880 we're past the Oh be patient, they'll figure it out. 1820 01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:59.640 I'm sorry, we just are because you're not getting results, 1821 01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:02.119 and you can talk about, oh, well, you know, we're 1822 01:37:02.159 --> 01:37:05.920 dominating matches, we're controlling matches, we've got possession, we're keep fine. 1823 01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:09.119 You ain't winning, and I'm sorry. That just happens, right. 1824 01:37:09.199 --> 01:37:11.960 Sometimes we see this in baseball all the time. Guys 1825 01:37:12.039 --> 01:37:14.720 might be hitting all right, but you're not scoring runs. 1826 01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:16.319 Sometimes you just got to adjust the line up a 1827 01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:18.479 little bit, you know, you move someone to another spot 1828 01:37:18.479 --> 01:37:22.359 in the lineup. In this particular case, Ronnie Dila has 1829 01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:24.640 some big decisions to make and it's one of two things. 1830 01:37:24.680 --> 01:37:29.760 It's formation or personnel. Pick one. I don't think you 1831 01:37:29.800 --> 01:37:31.760 do both. That would be a little too much, but 1832 01:37:32.239 --> 01:37:37.880 one will probably also dictate the other. Are you going 1833 01:37:37.960 --> 01:37:40.960 to change in formation from you know, the the four 1834 01:37:41.800 --> 01:37:45.279 three three you know the three Yeah, you know, whatever 1835 01:37:45.279 --> 01:37:48.640 you want to call it. Are you going to change 1836 01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:51.239 from that or are you going to change players? Because 1837 01:37:51.319 --> 01:37:54.399 if we're if we're making personnel changes, I'm sorry. There 1838 01:37:54.399 --> 01:37:57.079 were two to three players that I think you need 1839 01:37:57.159 --> 01:38:00.600 to make changes on. One of them is bart Slash 1840 01:38:00.760 --> 01:38:05.840 because he just is not cutting it as a defensive midfielder. 1841 01:38:06.479 --> 01:38:07.960 Sorry, just how it is. 1842 01:38:11.800 --> 01:38:14.399 Sorry, that's just where I'm at. The other one, and 1843 01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:17.079 as much as I love him and I think the 1844 01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:21.479 problem here is he is a fantastic offensive weapon, but 1845 01:38:22.279 --> 01:38:25.239 holy hell, Brooks Lennon needs to we need to figure 1846 01:38:25.239 --> 01:38:27.279 out how to run an attack that's not through Brooks 1847 01:38:27.319 --> 01:38:32.119 Lennon crossing the ball, because that was the that was 1848 01:38:32.159 --> 01:38:35.720 the sickness that had festered in this team all game 1849 01:38:36.039 --> 01:38:38.279 was it was get the ball wide to Brooks, watch 1850 01:38:38.359 --> 01:38:41.439 him cross the ball in where are we going? And 1851 01:38:41.479 --> 01:38:45.000 then to Milio's point, the next question is Alexian Miggy, 1852 01:38:45.159 --> 01:38:48.279 you can't be on the field at the same time. Sorry, 1853 01:38:48.399 --> 01:38:52.720 you got to figure out who's starting because and that's 1854 01:38:52.760 --> 01:38:54.720 just what I'm looking at, because right now the problem 1855 01:38:54.840 --> 01:38:59.159 is Alexiamiggy both like to occupy more central spaces and 1856 01:38:59.199 --> 01:39:01.760 you're clogging things is up, you're running into each other. 1857 01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:04.359 You're not able to combine because you're too close to 1858 01:39:04.359 --> 01:39:07.479 each other, which sounds counterintuitive, but when you start close 1859 01:39:07.520 --> 01:39:09.479 to each other, the combination is going to work because 1860 01:39:09.479 --> 01:39:12.079 you've got all the defenders there. It's just too easy 1861 01:39:12.079 --> 01:39:14.479 to defend right now. And Atlani and added continues to 1862 01:39:14.520 --> 01:39:16.840 create a lot of chances, but not a lot of 1863 01:39:16.920 --> 01:39:19.319 quality chances. I mean, the goal we scored was a 1864 01:39:19.319 --> 01:39:22.680 great goal, right, but that was a shot from distance 1865 01:39:22.760 --> 01:39:24.640 and that's not the type of quality chances you want 1866 01:39:24.680 --> 01:39:26.680 to keep creating. You need to create more chances inside 1867 01:39:26.680 --> 01:39:28.079 the penalty area. We're just not doing it. 1868 01:39:29.119 --> 01:39:33.560 Okay, go ahead, no, no, no one. 1869 01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:37.000 One of the things that it stuck out to me 1870 01:39:37.039 --> 01:39:43.680 in preseason and listening and look, I know as as 1871 01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:46.319 he does this for a living, I think Ronnie dial 1872 01:39:46.359 --> 01:39:49.600 is and crows mark guy. I think he's an incorrectly 1873 01:39:49.760 --> 01:39:54.840 smart soccer coach. He has again seen some shit in 1874 01:39:54.920 --> 01:39:59.199 Celtic and in Scotland and Belgium. He has been through 1875 01:39:59.199 --> 01:40:01.800 some wars that I think think I don't know if 1876 01:40:01.920 --> 01:40:06.279 y'all fully at times understand how psychotic like the Scottish 1877 01:40:06.319 --> 01:40:07.279 and Belgium. 1878 01:40:06.920 --> 01:40:11.359 Media can be. Anything we do to him here is 1879 01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:12.079 just going to be. 1880 01:40:12.159 --> 01:40:14.920 Like a Sunday walk for that dude. Compared to what 1881 01:40:14.960 --> 01:40:18.199 he's dealt with. I don't think that bothers him nearly 1882 01:40:18.199 --> 01:40:20.800 as much as the performances. And I think he's a 1883 01:40:20.800 --> 01:40:23.000 smart guy because in pre when I'm getting at here 1884 01:40:23.039 --> 01:40:24.960 is in preseason. One of the things he harped on 1885 01:40:25.840 --> 01:40:29.800 in the Birmingham game specifically was he made a point 1886 01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:33.560 of building up Sleish. He talked a lot about him, 1887 01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:36.039 about what he wanted from him, what he needed from him, 1888 01:40:36.039 --> 01:40:42.000 and I think he understood that he needed Bart, not you. 1889 01:40:43.399 --> 01:40:47.239 I think he understood that he needed Sleish to be great, 1890 01:40:48.199 --> 01:40:50.239 that that was going to be a fulcrumb with what 1891 01:40:50.359 --> 01:40:53.880 this team did. And it hasn't been there. 1892 01:40:54.720 --> 01:40:57.399 And I hate I've really because I think again you 1893 01:40:57.439 --> 01:41:00.600 can see he's very talented. He's actually pretty decent possession. 1894 01:41:01.319 --> 01:41:05.039 It's just it's not to your point there where it 1895 01:41:05.239 --> 01:41:08.600 needs to be. And the other problem is, as much 1896 01:41:08.640 --> 01:41:10.560 as I love watching him on the field because he 1897 01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:13.439 does move around a lot, but Yamba is not as 1898 01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:18.159 dynamic when it comes to making progressive passes the way 1899 01:41:18.199 --> 01:41:21.159 that bart needs, so you're just not getting that a 1900 01:41:21.199 --> 01:41:26.239 lot from that central midfield spot, and it's it's what's hurting. 1901 01:41:26.279 --> 01:41:28.039 And then you add the fact that you know, I 1902 01:41:28.039 --> 01:41:30.359 think if I could summarize this team in one incentive, 1903 01:41:30.439 --> 01:41:33.439 it would be we're very good at giving up stupid goals, 1904 01:41:34.319 --> 01:41:36.399 but by god, we cannot punish a team for this 1905 01:41:36.640 --> 01:41:41.439 for our lives. And teams make so many stupid mistakes 1906 01:41:41.439 --> 01:41:43.720 in MLS. That's just how this works. MLS is not 1907 01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:47.239 a great defensive league. We all know this. At Landing added, 1908 01:41:47.279 --> 01:41:50.000 every goal we've scored this season seems like it's some 1909 01:41:50.760 --> 01:41:53.399 magic effort that we had to create instead of just 1910 01:41:54.199 --> 01:41:55.920 a lot of the goals that we get conceded where 1911 01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:57.720 we beat one player and then all of a sudden 1912 01:41:57.720 --> 01:42:02.000 it's we're in on goal against brad and and they've conceded. 1913 01:42:02.479 --> 01:42:05.640 And that is the frustrating part as the fan is going, 1914 01:42:05.760 --> 01:42:08.560 why are we giving up goals so easily? Yet it's 1915 01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:11.640 a monumental effort for us to get even a shot off. 1916 01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:23.159 You know, yeah, it's it's exhausting. I don't I don't 1917 01:42:23.159 --> 01:42:27.199 know what you do because I mentioned earlier, if you want, 1918 01:42:27.319 --> 01:42:29.039 because I know I know it's been the article and 1919 01:42:29.079 --> 01:42:30.359 it's been kind of the flavor of. 1920 01:42:30.359 --> 01:42:31.439 The last few weeks. 1921 01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:32.560 To do. 1922 01:42:34.479 --> 01:42:36.479 To play in the key at the ten drops, let's 1923 01:42:36.520 --> 01:42:40.159 say back to like a deep lying climaker. I will 1924 01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:45.680 repeat again, that's fun offensively. Yeah, but if you think 1925 01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:49.439 you're shipping goals now, you don't have a destroying six 1926 01:42:49.479 --> 01:42:52.319 who can sit back there as the other midfielder and 1927 01:42:52.359 --> 01:42:53.319 you're gonna need that. 1928 01:42:54.239 --> 01:42:57.439 No, And that's one of those things too where we 1929 01:42:57.479 --> 01:43:00.560 talk about patients, and I think there's patients for like 1930 01:43:01.560 --> 01:43:05.680 I do think we're approaching from a coaching even aspect 1931 01:43:05.720 --> 01:43:09.279 of the patience of hoping things just met like gel 1932 01:43:09.399 --> 01:43:13.239 and the system and everything takes hold. I think we're 1933 01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:17.199 either past that or approaching being past that. Is that 1934 01:43:17.479 --> 01:43:22.199 a fair situation evaluation? So then, Jared, I think for 1935 01:43:22.319 --> 01:43:26.359 me the question is again, what does that change? Because 1936 01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:31.279 I agree with you. I think Alexi being a deeper 1937 01:43:31.800 --> 01:43:37.000 player I think would be fun. Like I think, actually yeah, 1938 01:43:37.199 --> 01:43:39.800 because I mean, look, the dude is not fast, bless 1939 01:43:39.840 --> 01:43:42.960 his little heart, but he is not that Fun's possibly technical, 1940 01:43:43.479 --> 01:43:46.279 but yeah, and having that as a kind of an 1941 01:43:46.279 --> 01:43:50.640 eight or a deeper lying playmaker could be fun to watch. 1942 01:43:50.680 --> 01:43:52.399 And then you have Miggi up top, which I do 1943 01:43:52.479 --> 01:43:55.079 think that we've seen Miggy wants to be more central, 1944 01:43:55.399 --> 01:43:57.399 and I think that's actually a great, a better place 1945 01:43:57.399 --> 01:44:01.479 for him to play in this league because Homeboy can 1946 01:44:01.520 --> 01:44:03.720 just blow by some defenders more than anyone else can. 1947 01:44:04.000 --> 01:44:07.359 I mean, he loves to take someone on, and I 1948 01:44:07.359 --> 01:44:08.920 think doing being able to do that in the middle 1949 01:44:08.960 --> 01:44:10.560 of the field with a guy like Latte a lot 1950 01:44:10.560 --> 01:44:13.119 who if you just slip them, you know, a nice 1951 01:44:13.119 --> 01:44:17.479 little slip in can undo a defense because he's just 1952 01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:21.079 so quick, not even fast quick, dude is quick. I 1953 01:44:21.079 --> 01:44:23.680 mean that there. It is fun to watch him get 1954 01:44:23.720 --> 01:44:26.520 like somehow three steps on a player before the ball 1955 01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:29.000 has been passed, you know. And I just don't think 1956 01:44:29.039 --> 01:44:32.720 Alexi is able to do that whereas Mikey can. So 1957 01:44:32.800 --> 01:44:35.279 that that is certainly the question of what do you 1958 01:44:35.319 --> 01:44:38.560 do with both of these really expensive, good attacking players. 1959 01:44:40.359 --> 01:44:41.520 Don't I don't, I don't know. 1960 01:44:43.680 --> 01:44:45.920 I think it's I think it's also safe to say 1961 01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:48.600 Jared that right now, again, what eight games in the season, 1962 01:44:48.680 --> 01:44:53.880 nine points, it's not great. I think if I could 1963 01:44:53.920 --> 01:44:57.199 identify two things that we need to change, three things 1964 01:44:57.239 --> 01:45:00.560 really one is figure out who's who you're attacking. People 1965 01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:02.640 are and were because I think we've all agreed that 1966 01:45:02.920 --> 01:45:05.760 Miggie and Alexi playing together is just not causing. It's 1967 01:45:05.800 --> 01:45:09.880 not creating the fluidity we thought it would. But I 1968 01:45:09.920 --> 01:45:11.760 do think that when you look at the summer, because 1969 01:45:11.760 --> 01:45:14.159 we know Garth loves the summer transfer window, we know 1970 01:45:14.319 --> 01:45:15.359 Garth loves the summer. 1971 01:45:15.399 --> 01:45:16.439 This summer could be bloody. 1972 01:45:16.600 --> 01:45:19.359 Just so we're clear, I think when you're looking at 1973 01:45:19.359 --> 01:45:22.119 the summer, you have to look at two specific positions, 1974 01:45:22.159 --> 01:45:24.239 and one of them is a defensive midfielder and the 1975 01:45:24.319 --> 01:45:26.199 other one is center back. Because I'm sorry, right now 1976 01:45:26.239 --> 01:45:29.560 we have half of a starting center back because I'm 1977 01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:31.319 gonna call out Sion a little bit too. I think 1978 01:45:31.319 --> 01:45:34.000 he's been good, he should be called out, but I 1979 01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:35.960 don't think he's been great. He's been culpable for some 1980 01:45:36.000 --> 01:45:39.079 of these defense firs. Luisa Brom refuses to engage on 1981 01:45:39.119 --> 01:45:42.279 a defensive action and that annoys me more than anything. 1982 01:45:42.479 --> 01:45:44.239 And Derek Williams can't judge the fly of a ball 1983 01:45:44.359 --> 01:45:48.159 to save his life. So those are center backs right 1984 01:45:48.199 --> 01:45:50.159 now are not what they need to be to be 1985 01:45:50.920 --> 01:45:53.319 competitive in this league. And that's causing more problems than 1986 01:45:53.319 --> 01:45:55.479 it should, especially when Brooks and Pedro are going up 1987 01:45:55.479 --> 01:45:58.000 the field so much so when you look at the 1988 01:45:58.039 --> 01:46:01.319 summer transfer window, which again we're our April, we're looking 1989 01:46:01.319 --> 01:46:05.479 forward to June already or July already a better center back. 1990 01:46:07.199 --> 01:46:08.720 And I mean, as much as we want to have 1991 01:46:08.800 --> 01:46:11.399 pretty you know, pretty passing, great, you kind of just 1992 01:46:11.439 --> 01:46:13.399 need a dude who's gonna knock someone over now then, 1993 01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:16.039 you know, And that's unfortunately what Bart's not willing to do. 1994 01:46:16.600 --> 01:46:18.279 Maybe you go get some of the someone like that 1995 01:46:18.359 --> 01:46:19.199 in the transfer window. 1996 01:46:19.640 --> 01:46:22.279 You need a he would I shouldn't say you need 1997 01:46:23.279 --> 01:46:25.359 it would be I would be okay if you went 1998 01:46:25.399 --> 01:46:27.640 and found a Jose Martinez. 1999 01:46:27.159 --> 01:46:30.800 Like I think the problem is Yeah, I think the problem, 2000 01:46:30.880 --> 01:46:33.119 Jared is that works in MLS. You know what I'm saying? 2001 01:46:33.479 --> 01:46:37.640 Yeah, absolutely, yes, I mean, and you. 2002 01:46:37.920 --> 01:46:40.079 Can try to play like you're playing in the Dutch League, 2003 01:46:40.119 --> 01:46:41.720 but you're not. You're playing an MLS. You gotta have 2004 01:46:41.760 --> 01:46:42.279 a destroyer. 2005 01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:49.319 Ye Is there anything Bart that we missed when it 2006 01:46:49.399 --> 01:46:52.920 came to laws of the game game management? 2007 01:46:55.800 --> 01:46:57.720 I still think they missed that handball in the box. 2008 01:46:57.760 --> 01:47:01.000 But what I yeah, I'm with you, Jared, I think 2009 01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:03.800 what bothers me is that wasn't reviewed. Does that make sense? 2010 01:47:03.960 --> 01:47:04.319 Yeah? 2011 01:47:04.399 --> 01:47:08.039 Yeah, It's one of those that because I I do 2012 01:47:08.119 --> 01:47:12.880 remind people they review everything. Yes, like VARs Var is 2013 01:47:12.920 --> 01:47:16.560 not like sitting there with a sandwich and doing nothing 2014 01:47:16.600 --> 01:47:20.439 with their time there sandwich. To be fair, I would 2015 01:47:20.520 --> 01:47:23.319 love if I was Vara beating a sandwich all the time. 2016 01:47:24.119 --> 01:47:26.079 But I'm also of the opinion. 2017 01:47:25.720 --> 01:47:28.960 That for that initial that initial shot where they're inside 2018 01:47:29.079 --> 01:47:31.079 yeah and you're you're sitting there in your head just 2019 01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:32.399 having a sandwich. 2020 01:47:34.399 --> 01:47:39.119 Beginning, that's one of those where personally, I would have 2021 01:47:39.239 --> 01:47:43.600 been very happy if we talk about this with like 2022 01:47:43.840 --> 01:47:48.920 managing the managing the game you're in. Take it to 2023 01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:53.000 the monitor just like just because the game is calling 2024 01:47:53.039 --> 01:47:54.239 for in that moment, you know. 2025 01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:57.000 And like yes, because there wasn't even a referee, the 2026 01:47:57.039 --> 01:47:59.479 ref going up to his you know, even like hey 2027 01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:01.439 they're checking, because if you go hey they're checking, you 2028 01:48:01.479 --> 01:48:04.159 go no, it wasn't because again, is that clear and obvious? 2029 01:48:04.960 --> 01:48:06.399 That's the key? 2030 01:48:06.880 --> 01:48:07.359 I don't know. 2031 01:48:07.560 --> 01:48:09.279 But then you're telling me that the off side was 2032 01:48:09.319 --> 01:48:11.119 clear and obvious, So which one is? You know, if 2033 01:48:11.119 --> 01:48:15.760 we're if we're going based on what our gut tells us. Fine, 2034 01:48:15.960 --> 01:48:19.119 but I man, that's not a I'm with you, Jared, 2035 01:48:19.199 --> 01:48:21.000 like that that to me the handle because it happened 2036 01:48:21.039 --> 01:48:24.000 right in front of me. Yeah, I don't. I couldn't 2037 01:48:24.039 --> 01:48:27.640 tell exactly how far away from the body his arm was, 2038 01:48:28.920 --> 01:48:32.079 but it hit his arm. 2039 01:48:32.239 --> 01:48:35.199 I mean you know, yeah, I thought it was away 2040 01:48:35.199 --> 01:48:39.560 from his body. I thought, Okay, I thought I do too, 2041 01:48:40.119 --> 01:48:42.520 because it's coming off with deflection and maybe that's what 2042 01:48:42.560 --> 01:48:44.960 their thinking was with it. But I felt like that 2043 01:48:45.079 --> 01:48:46.560 was like one of those like you take it to 2044 01:48:46.600 --> 01:48:48.760 the like, take it to the monitor, let them know, like, hey, 2045 01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:49.520 they're looking at it. 2046 01:48:49.680 --> 01:48:49.960 Yeah. 2047 01:48:50.840 --> 01:48:53.520 No one really seemed to notice anything until like the 2048 01:48:53.600 --> 01:48:56.000 next things to play anyway, So whatever. 2049 01:48:56.439 --> 01:49:00.520 Well, and also to to this is where Atlanta needs 2050 01:49:00.520 --> 01:49:02.560 to take a beat too, because I think we get 2051 01:49:02.840 --> 01:49:06.840 again game state. We're very frantic at that point. Settle 2052 01:49:06.920 --> 01:49:09.920 down and wait to take that corner kick. You know 2053 01:49:09.960 --> 01:49:13.159 what I'm saying, Allow var and the referee an. 2054 01:49:13.079 --> 01:49:15.800 Opportunity to have given time to think about Yeah. 2055 01:49:16.399 --> 01:49:18.239 I mean we see this in the NFL a lot 2056 01:49:18.239 --> 01:49:23.680 of times where a team will wait a beat to 2057 01:49:23.760 --> 01:49:24.479 get the play in. 2058 01:49:24.800 --> 01:49:28.600 Right you know, or or what they'll do is if 2059 01:49:28.600 --> 01:49:30.680 they think that it's going to get flipped, you're going 2060 01:49:30.720 --> 01:49:32.520 to try to get up there and do a quick huddle. 2061 01:49:32.239 --> 01:49:34.079 And get a quick snap so it doesn't get reviewed. 2062 01:49:35.239 --> 01:49:37.520 Well, Aaron is so good at that when he was not, 2063 01:49:37.800 --> 01:49:40.039 like on his vision quest like a raccoon on. 2064 01:49:41.079 --> 01:49:45.520 Yes, all right, so in cards and calls and anything 2065 01:49:45.520 --> 01:49:48.600 else that we've missed now that we've discussed everything this week, anyway, 2066 01:49:49.119 --> 01:49:52.159 my my plan is to try and catch up with 2067 01:49:52.399 --> 01:49:55.840 pro and just find out about the review process and 2068 01:49:55.920 --> 01:49:59.680 find out, Okay, how many times you know, is it 2069 01:49:59.800 --> 01:50:01.760 the end the year? Is it a consistent thing? Do 2070 01:50:01.800 --> 01:50:03.399 you help you know? Do you call folks? 2071 01:50:04.520 --> 01:50:04.720 You know? 2072 01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:06.560 I would like to know that too, is what is 2073 01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:09.199 the continual education process? Because there should be. 2074 01:50:09.359 --> 01:50:12.239 Yeah in the and so right now, just looking at 2075 01:50:12.239 --> 01:50:16.199 the numbers, Alexis de Silva has had six matches where 2076 01:50:16.199 --> 01:50:18.399 he's been the man in the middle twenty three on average, 2077 01:50:18.880 --> 01:50:22.000 and that man well, but but the thing is twenty 2078 01:50:22.039 --> 01:50:26.159 three is eighteenth out of twenty six. He is eighteenth 2079 01:50:26.199 --> 01:50:28.880 out of twenty six center reps for fouls per match 2080 01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:34.479 called and right, the number one is Alio Raghin, who 2081 01:50:34.520 --> 01:50:37.000 has only had one appearance in the middle, and he 2082 01:50:37.039 --> 01:50:38.000 called thirty three fouls. 2083 01:50:38.039 --> 01:50:39.000 He is far and away. 2084 01:50:39.279 --> 01:50:40.239 You know the game did he have? 2085 01:50:40.840 --> 01:50:45.520 Oh, let's find out, shall we? It was. 2086 01:50:47.319 --> 01:50:53.880 Chicago Fire and CF Montreal January February, March thirtieth. Interesting, 2087 01:50:54.239 --> 01:50:56.520 so he called the Fire in Montreal match and called 2088 01:50:56.520 --> 01:50:57.399 thirty three fouls. 2089 01:50:58.039 --> 01:51:00.000 Interesting, that was such a high foul game. 2090 01:51:00.079 --> 01:51:06.279 But yeah, yeah, and after that it's Rosindo Mendosa who 2091 01:51:06.359 --> 01:51:10.159 averages thirty point eight, Joe Dickerson who averages thirty in 2092 01:51:10.199 --> 01:51:13.840 a quarter, Philip Duyich who's twenty eight point one four 2093 01:51:14.159 --> 01:51:16.279 over seven matches, that's why it's a point one four, 2094 01:51:16.279 --> 01:51:19.239 and Ricardo Fieriro at twenty seven and a half. We 2095 01:51:19.359 --> 01:51:24.439 have had Rosindo Mendosa, Philip Duyich, and Ricardo Fieriro in 2096 01:51:24.520 --> 01:51:26.800 the middle for the matches against Atlanta United. And this 2097 01:51:26.920 --> 01:51:31.000 was a point that was brought up in the chat, 2098 01:51:31.800 --> 01:51:36.159 is that you would think that center refs know what 2099 01:51:36.199 --> 01:51:40.840 they're getting into with the teams that are on the field. Yet, 2100 01:51:41.640 --> 01:51:44.840 even if you don't have four knowledge at least bart 2101 01:51:44.920 --> 01:51:48.600 to your point earlier in this discussion that if there's 2102 01:51:48.640 --> 01:51:49.960 a lot of fouls being had. 2103 01:51:50.239 --> 01:51:52.880 There are a lot of fouls being made, then you. 2104 01:51:52.840 --> 01:51:55.600 Should kind of, oh, I don't know, use your card 2105 01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:58.039 a little more than you would otherwise. 2106 01:51:58.840 --> 01:52:04.119 Yeah, there were Atlanta United the most. The player that 2107 01:52:04.159 --> 01:52:09.039 committed the most fouls was Peter Armador at two. No 2108 01:52:09.079 --> 01:52:10.199 one else committed more than. 2109 01:52:10.239 --> 01:52:12.000 I was expecting to hear of Manuel Latte a lot, 2110 01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:14.359 to be honest, because he's a he is a bit 2111 01:52:14.399 --> 01:52:16.279 of a spark plug. 2112 01:52:16.079 --> 01:52:18.479 When it comes to So here's yella committed one foul. 2113 01:52:18.479 --> 01:52:19.479 You know what that foul was? 2114 01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:20.439 Yeah, I do. 2115 01:52:20.800 --> 01:52:24.000 Yeah, you know why because Miguel decided to hang back offensively. 2116 01:52:24.520 --> 01:52:27.600 Here's here's your numbers in the middle of the match, 2117 01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:30.399 when Caleb Porter just decided to pack things up, go 2118 01:52:30.479 --> 01:52:33.359 to the Laredo garage, grab as many Marta buses as 2119 01:52:33.399 --> 01:52:37.399 possible and bring them on. So it was seven fouls 2120 01:52:37.520 --> 01:52:40.800 from New England in the first eleven minutes of the 2121 01:52:40.840 --> 01:52:46.399 second half, one yellow, twenty fouls, two yellows. Between the 2122 01:52:46.439 --> 01:52:51.159 fortieth and the sixtieth minute, New England committed ten fouls. 2123 01:52:51.840 --> 01:52:55.439 So that's five minutes leading into halftime and the first 2124 01:52:55.520 --> 01:52:56.920 fifteen of the second half. 2125 01:52:56.960 --> 01:52:59.920 It was a lot. John New England committed ten fouls. 2126 01:53:01.760 --> 01:53:03.560 That's a lot, and I want people to understand that 2127 01:53:03.680 --> 01:53:06.640 is a lot of fouls within a short period of time, right, 2128 01:53:08.199 --> 01:53:10.439 and he did nothing to manage that. And that's kind 2129 01:53:10.439 --> 01:53:16.279 of again. The problem is is there was no hey, 2130 01:53:17.079 --> 01:53:19.560 call the captain over, Hey, that's enough, we fouled to him. 2131 01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:23.199 Alexi got foiled five times five. 2132 01:53:23.600 --> 01:53:28.119 I don't know Ezekiel Barco led the universe in fouls 2133 01:53:28.119 --> 01:53:29.520 when he was here at all I heard from people 2134 01:53:29.560 --> 01:53:31.560 was complaining that Ezekiel Barko gets filed a lot and 2135 01:53:31.600 --> 01:53:34.319 goes down a lot. Well, carls Hel could have kept this, 2136 01:53:34.560 --> 01:53:36.199 like I said, this story of the game, carls Hel 2137 01:53:36.239 --> 01:53:37.840 could have kept his footing in the box if he 2138 01:53:37.880 --> 01:53:41.399 wanted to. He understood the moment he went down, which 2139 01:53:42.039 --> 01:53:46.119 good for him. He understood the moment it Land almost 2140 01:53:46.119 --> 01:53:47.399 gave up a goal in the end of the first 2141 01:53:47.479 --> 01:53:51.359 half where Manuel lat got very clearly fouled, but he 2142 01:53:51.520 --> 01:53:55.000 tried to keep his feet And this is this, this 2143 01:53:55.079 --> 01:53:58.720 is very much like the Alpharetta Dad shit of like 2144 01:53:58.880 --> 01:53:59.359 keep your. 2145 01:53:59.279 --> 01:54:03.960 Feet in the game. This weekend fit. 2146 01:54:04.279 --> 01:54:06.359 Well, he tried to keep his feet and you know 2147 01:54:06.439 --> 01:54:10.159 what happened. He lost his balance, fell down, They picked 2148 01:54:10.239 --> 01:54:12.640 up the ball almost scored going the other way. So 2149 01:54:12.720 --> 01:54:13.159 there you go. 2150 01:54:14.119 --> 01:54:14.319 There. 2151 01:54:14.439 --> 01:54:21.720 I got like, keep you don't have to feel contact, 2152 01:54:21.760 --> 01:54:23.760 you go down man. You don't have to be enough 2153 01:54:23.760 --> 01:54:24.279 for red Dad. 2154 01:54:24.640 --> 01:54:26.199 No, of course you do. 2155 01:54:26.399 --> 01:54:28.640 I mean see, And we haven't even talked about like 2156 01:54:28.720 --> 01:54:30.760 the killing and bape Rad. We haven't talked about the 2157 01:54:30.840 --> 01:54:34.880 latitiate contact from behind in the Women's FA Cup. I 2158 01:54:34.880 --> 01:54:37.840 haven't talked about oh, the head injuries that happened in 2159 01:54:38.079 --> 01:54:41.680 Columbus and Saint Louis, where the time that players were 2160 01:54:41.840 --> 01:54:45.439 off the field was completely and totally apparently just random. 2161 01:54:45.479 --> 01:54:48.479 And uh one was forty eight seconds and the other 2162 01:54:48.520 --> 01:54:50.199 was two minutes before they were allowed back in. 2163 01:54:51.159 --> 01:54:54.640 So there's there's still there's still stuff on the table. Bart. 2164 01:54:54.680 --> 01:54:56.840 We had barely scratched the surface, but I thought it 2165 01:54:56.920 --> 01:54:58.319 was but but I thought. 2166 01:54:58.199 --> 01:54:59.600 It was also kept Bart for an hour. 2167 01:55:00.279 --> 01:55:04.720 Well yeah, But the thing is, when there's a lot 2168 01:55:04.760 --> 01:55:07.840 to talk about and set and like I said, I 2169 01:55:07.840 --> 01:55:09.960 wanted to take it with two lanes. I wanted to 2170 01:55:10.479 --> 01:55:12.800 it just so happens that they intersect. Yes, we were 2171 01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:15.880 talking about the match. Yes, we're talking about the refereeing 2172 01:55:16.159 --> 01:55:17.840 but I wanted to talk about the refereeing in the 2173 01:55:17.880 --> 01:55:21.000 sense of the overarching ideas, and yes, they happened to 2174 01:55:21.039 --> 01:55:23.159 apply to the match that we were all a part 2175 01:55:23.199 --> 01:55:25.319 of on Saturday. So that was that was why I 2176 01:55:25.319 --> 01:55:28.640 wanted to do this this way today, and I borrowed 2177 01:55:28.720 --> 01:55:29.319 you for an hour. 2178 01:55:29.359 --> 01:55:31.079 Are you gonna get in trouble now? 2179 01:55:31.600 --> 01:55:35.319 I'll be all right, I will, But I was I 2180 01:55:35.399 --> 01:55:36.960 was answering emails and a response to. 2181 01:55:37.079 --> 01:55:40.800 Though, you know, okay, all right, I will support bart 2182 01:55:40.880 --> 01:55:45.760 in the sense that I agree that, and I agreathing 2183 01:55:45.840 --> 01:55:49.600 fully that. Uh, as you go into the summer, this 2184 01:55:49.640 --> 01:55:52.880 summer window could get see in terms of players coming 2185 01:55:52.920 --> 01:55:55.319 in and out, because if guys aren't doing the job, 2186 01:55:55.960 --> 01:55:58.239 I am always a proponent of it. If guy doing 2187 01:55:58.239 --> 01:55:59.880 the job, I'm gonna find someone who will. 2188 01:56:00.119 --> 01:56:00.359 Yeah. 2189 01:56:00.560 --> 01:56:02.840 If ain't you, I'll find I'll find something. I'll find 2190 01:56:02.840 --> 01:56:08.159 your replacement for you. Six and center back is where 2191 01:56:08.199 --> 01:56:12.279 I'm looking as well. I think Derek Williams just lost 2192 01:56:12.279 --> 01:56:15.720 a step and I love I love Derek. Good dude. 2193 01:56:15.760 --> 01:56:16.920 I thought he was really. 2194 01:56:16.680 --> 01:56:17.439 Good last year. 2195 01:56:17.800 --> 01:56:21.079 Oh yeah before yeah, so finish your point. 2196 01:56:22.600 --> 01:56:24.479 I thought, Derek, I thought what Derek was really good 2197 01:56:24.520 --> 01:56:27.199 last year. I think Derek's losing a step and I 2198 01:56:27.560 --> 01:56:30.199 I like him as a clubhouse guy. I don't think 2199 01:56:30.239 --> 01:56:33.159 the number is very big on him. I'm fine with Derek, 2200 01:56:33.840 --> 01:56:38.640 but Deane hasn't been healthy or consistent enough. I like 2201 01:56:38.680 --> 01:56:42.000 a bron but he's more of a passive defender. I 2202 01:56:42.079 --> 01:56:44.479 would be fine if you went and if you went 2203 01:56:44.560 --> 01:56:47.479 and got someone and started them next to Noah Cobb 2204 01:56:47.600 --> 01:56:48.720 and let the kid play. 2205 01:56:49.319 --> 01:56:52.640 I'm here for it, man, Okay. One point that we 2206 01:56:52.680 --> 01:56:54.600 didn't get into. David brought it up in the in 2207 01:56:54.640 --> 01:56:59.119 the jet. I'm glad he did the late sub involving 2208 01:56:59.319 --> 01:57:02.600 you get to get mad at Campana. The sub involving 2209 01:57:02.680 --> 01:57:06.960 Campana in a Rudy where Maxi and Rudy decided he 2210 01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:10.319 wanted to take his time, and you know you're supposed 2211 01:57:10.319 --> 01:57:12.800 to be leaving the field in a certain length of time, 2212 01:57:13.520 --> 01:57:16.800 and Maxia Rudy when he was told to hurry up 2213 01:57:16.840 --> 01:57:21.239 to go off, he slowed down. So the substitution rule, 2214 01:57:21.319 --> 01:57:24.079 once again, you're milking the clock and you're doing all 2215 01:57:24.079 --> 01:57:26.199 these things and you're not getting carted for that either. 2216 01:57:26.239 --> 01:57:29.399 So once again it gets back to game management and 2217 01:57:29.439 --> 01:57:32.640 reading the room and it was not read very well. 2218 01:57:33.239 --> 01:57:35.119 I mean, that's not even reading the ring, John, that's 2219 01:57:35.159 --> 01:57:37.359 applying the rules as MLS has listened. 2220 01:57:38.520 --> 01:57:39.720 It's like, dude, get off. 2221 01:57:40.039 --> 01:57:42.319 But you know, hey, alexisis Silva did whatever the hell 2222 01:57:42.319 --> 01:57:43.920 he wanted to do that game, and no one could 2223 01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:45.600 tell him different. That was just the problem is that 2224 01:57:45.680 --> 01:57:48.680 he was out there vibin. That's what I mean. He 2225 01:57:48.760 --> 01:57:51.279 was just I mean, that's sincerely. The dude seemed like 2226 01:57:51.279 --> 01:57:53.359 he was just cashing a page, collecting a page. 2227 01:57:53.680 --> 01:57:54.279 He was vibing. 2228 01:57:54.399 --> 01:57:56.359 And I'll be honest, I've had games like that, but 2229 01:57:56.439 --> 01:57:59.479 usually no offense of the U ten. You know, tournament 2230 01:57:59.520 --> 01:58:01.560 games where I just out there to run five games 2231 01:58:01.560 --> 01:58:03.399 and six games in a row and make sure that 2232 01:58:03.560 --> 01:58:07.119 you know, the players aren't picking their noses too much. 2233 01:58:07.359 --> 01:58:13.680 Ew they're nine years old, John, what else do you 2234 01:58:13.720 --> 01:58:14.680 expect them to do? 2235 01:58:14.720 --> 01:58:15.800 You? John? 2236 01:58:15.840 --> 01:58:17.000 I had I had a game. 2237 01:58:16.960 --> 01:58:17.319 My game. 2238 01:58:17.439 --> 01:58:19.760 Luckily I wasn't the center for this seven minutes then 2239 01:58:19.840 --> 01:58:21.840 we had a kid get hurt to the pat point 2240 01:58:21.880 --> 01:58:23.119 that he had to leave the match and go to 2241 01:58:23.159 --> 01:58:29.199 a hospital. Non contact injury. Non contact injury, had to 2242 01:58:29.479 --> 01:58:31.439 throw out a parent because I decided to come onto 2243 01:58:31.479 --> 01:58:36.479 the field. Wow, had a red card in the final 2244 01:58:36.520 --> 01:58:39.079 minute of we were in like five minutes of stoppage 2245 01:58:39.079 --> 01:58:42.159 time because said parent had to give a red card 2246 01:58:42.159 --> 01:58:46.520 for a dog so penalty kick. So had an interesting 2247 01:58:46.520 --> 01:58:47.199 Sunday as well. 2248 01:58:48.119 --> 01:58:50.319 Yes, so again I wasn't the. 2249 01:58:50.239 --> 01:58:52.119 Center, so the reporting wasn't my job. 2250 01:58:54.560 --> 01:58:56.600 Do you ever have those where you like, you have 2251 01:58:56.640 --> 01:58:58.239 a game like that and you look at the center 2252 01:58:58.279 --> 01:59:00.039 and go, oh god, I'm. 2253 01:58:59.880 --> 01:59:00.520 Not you today. 2254 01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:03.600 Yeah. I literally said that to him. Afterwards. I was like, well, 2255 01:59:03.600 --> 01:59:05.199 don't call me if you need help with the reports. 2256 01:59:05.680 --> 01:59:05.880 Yeah. 2257 01:59:05.960 --> 01:59:10.600 Not Yeah, Hey, listen to all parents. Don't come onto 2258 01:59:10.600 --> 01:59:13.079 the field. That's not where your space is. Your spaces 2259 01:59:13.119 --> 01:59:15.520 on the sideline. And when you're four yards under the field, 2260 01:59:15.560 --> 01:59:17.239 and then get bad at me for telling you to 2261 01:59:17.279 --> 01:59:20.039 get off the field, Oh my god, you don't get 2262 01:59:20.079 --> 01:59:24.000 to do that. So I hope that person enjoys his 2263 01:59:24.920 --> 01:59:26.039 hopeful suspension. 2264 01:59:26.239 --> 01:59:30.520 Wow. That's tremendous soccer for USPOD. You gotta plug. 2265 01:59:31.880 --> 01:59:38.319 Recording tonight about the women's national team performances and not results, 2266 01:59:38.720 --> 01:59:40.399 performances evaluating players. 2267 01:59:40.880 --> 01:59:43.319 How did you feel about Mariusia Puchatino being there for 2268 01:59:43.399 --> 01:59:44.439 that game Saturday? 2269 01:59:45.039 --> 01:59:45.279 Wow? 2270 01:59:45.760 --> 01:59:50.119 I'm sure some Spurs fans felt very familiar. 2271 01:59:51.760 --> 01:59:54.720 Yes, all right, so hopefully we didn't get you into trouble. 2272 01:59:54.720 --> 01:59:58.119 I'm glad you were answering emails and making sure that 2273 01:59:58.159 --> 02:00:00.560 everything was fine. Which one of the two of you 2274 02:00:00.640 --> 02:00:02.720 had the dog that would that had just had the bath. 2275 02:00:04.239 --> 02:00:05.840 Oh, it's not a dog, it's a rabbit. 2276 02:00:06.159 --> 02:00:08.680 Okay, So oh so the rabbit just had a bath. 2277 02:00:09.560 --> 02:00:12.720 No, we didn't have a bath. He just uh, she 2278 02:00:13.000 --> 02:00:18.119 was sent by Mephistopheles to punish me. It's her entire 2279 02:00:18.239 --> 02:00:21.640 her entire existence is built on making me suffer and 2280 02:00:22.000 --> 02:00:25.920 her So with with a rabbit, you you, we feed 2281 02:00:25.920 --> 02:00:29.199 them Timothy hay throughout the day, and so I just 2282 02:00:29.199 --> 02:00:33.640 given her some Timothy Hay and she decided that she 2283 02:00:34.560 --> 02:00:37.760 was just going to grab the metal hayholder that hangs 2284 02:00:37.760 --> 02:00:41.279 on her letter box and just start yeating that thing 2285 02:00:41.319 --> 02:00:42.199 around the cage. 2286 02:00:43.119 --> 02:00:48.279 So that's what happened, okay, all right, So Bart, thanks again, 2287 02:00:48.479 --> 02:00:50.520 have a good time recording tonight, and obviously we will 2288 02:00:50.520 --> 02:00:53.159 turn that as quickly as humanly possible as we always do. 2289 02:00:53.560 --> 02:00:56.359 That's my that's my job, John, all. 2290 02:00:56.319 --> 02:00:58.439 Right, Uh, be good, my friend. Thanks for hanging out 2291 02:00:58.479 --> 02:00:59.800 for an entire hour because I know there was a 2292 02:00:59.800 --> 02:01:00.600 lot to talk about. 2293 02:01:03.159 --> 02:01:04.760 I'm glad I get to talk about with y'all here. 2294 02:01:05.399 --> 02:01:08.880 I hope everyone Monday go outside and touch grass today. 2295 02:01:08.880 --> 02:01:11.880 I mean, that's sincerely not in it's kindescending way. Enjoy 2296 02:01:11.880 --> 02:01:14.319 the weather. If you can't take double up on those 2297 02:01:14.319 --> 02:01:18.079 allergy degrees. Yeah, double up on the allergy medicine had outside. 2298 02:01:18.319 --> 02:01:20.800 Yes, and don't go from hot to cold. The hot. 2299 02:01:20.920 --> 02:01:22.359 By the way, this is my coffee mug, but I 2300 02:01:22.359 --> 02:01:24.319 can't drink out of it on this side. So I 2301 02:01:24.359 --> 02:01:26.119 acquired a waffle House coffee mug. 2302 02:01:26.119 --> 02:01:28.920 Finally, I need to get one before I leave. 2303 02:01:29.359 --> 02:01:32.920 Yes, yes you do. Uh, I don't. 2304 02:01:32.960 --> 02:01:33.560 I won't tell you. 2305 02:01:33.479 --> 02:01:34.239 How I cured that. 2306 02:01:36.199 --> 02:01:37.720 John, There's not gonna be a waffle house. 2307 02:01:37.600 --> 02:01:40.199 In my life, but you will have in and out. 2308 02:01:40.760 --> 02:01:44.239 I believe this is true. So there's a there's a 2309 02:01:44.279 --> 02:01:45.560 trade waffle houses. 2310 02:01:45.680 --> 02:01:47.319 I need to open a waffle house, that's what that's 2311 02:01:47.359 --> 02:01:47.880 what I want to do. 2312 02:01:48.279 --> 02:01:52.119 See that would be tremendous. Oh, that'd be great. 2313 02:01:53.159 --> 02:01:57.279 Jared is a franchisey for waffle House in Utah. 2314 02:01:57.359 --> 02:01:59.600 Yeah, we're doing it. Yes you are. 2315 02:02:00.600 --> 02:02:02.399 I believe that you can match the energy you needed. 2316 02:02:02.560 --> 02:02:04.960 So absolutely, Well what you do. 2317 02:02:04.920 --> 02:02:08.479 Is you you just decaf coffee because Mormons. 2318 02:02:08.319 --> 02:02:10.720 Well no, but what you do is you make sure 2319 02:02:10.760 --> 02:02:13.640 that you find some great prospects here and you use 2320 02:02:13.640 --> 02:02:15.239 your waffle house allocation money. 2321 02:02:15.279 --> 02:02:16.720 You use your wham to. 2322 02:02:16.720 --> 02:02:20.239 Get them over Georgia to work the waffle houses in Utah. 2323 02:02:20.359 --> 02:02:21.279 That's how you do it. 2324 02:02:23.439 --> 02:02:25.039 Yeah, yeah, Derek, it's a lot of it's a lot 2325 02:02:25.079 --> 02:02:27.239 of rabbit poop, it is. But we we they're they're 2326 02:02:27.479 --> 02:02:30.319 they're litter box trained, so we uh we just have 2327 02:02:30.359 --> 02:02:34.279 a like a big plastic litter box and just use 2328 02:02:34.479 --> 02:02:38.520 equine pine corse pellets from like tractors supply at a 2329 02:02:38.520 --> 02:02:40.079 couple of days. And yeah, you're good. 2330 02:02:40.399 --> 02:02:44.279 Wow, Okay, all right, Bart, be good to see thanks again. 2331 02:02:44.399 --> 02:02:46.399 We'll catch up with you tonight. Socker for us po 2332 02:02:46.479 --> 02:02:48.000 D thanks for all of the intel. 2333 02:02:49.359 --> 02:02:50.800 Be good. All right. So that's Bart. 2334 02:02:51.399 --> 02:02:54.159 Jared let me go through gossip rumors and want to 2335 02:02:54.199 --> 02:02:57.119 watch And it's been a fun day. And I know 2336 02:02:57.199 --> 02:02:59.079 that we hit the E rating in the first four minutes, 2337 02:02:59.119 --> 02:03:00.319 but sometimes you got to do that. 2338 02:03:01.039 --> 02:03:03.159 Fun is a fluid term, but carry. 2339 02:03:02.880 --> 02:03:05.520 On, Yes, thank you, sir. The fact that we had 2340 02:03:05.600 --> 02:03:07.760 Jared for the full two hours. That was always fun. 2341 02:03:07.960 --> 02:03:10.159 Soccer on TV today will go over rumors as well. 2342 02:03:10.199 --> 02:03:11.920 And if you saw the killing and Bape challenge that 2343 02:03:11.960 --> 02:03:15.119 was pretty nasty. Go back in social media if you 2344 02:03:15.159 --> 02:03:21.039 can and find the uh if there's a Luis en 2345 02:03:21.119 --> 02:03:25.039 Rique when Mbope was at PSG had him in the 2346 02:03:25.079 --> 02:03:27.880 film room and he was talking him up and down, 2347 02:03:28.399 --> 02:03:32.079 trying to instill the star that you know, what he 2348 02:03:32.119 --> 02:03:33.920 really could be, but that also meant helping out on 2349 02:03:33.960 --> 02:03:37.079 defense and being a two way player, and you can 2350 02:03:37.199 --> 02:03:42.119 it's Enrique, Luis en Rique. He was letting Embape have 2351 02:03:42.239 --> 02:03:45.279 it and Boppi was just like, uh huh, I don't 2352 02:03:45.279 --> 02:03:48.760 think that ever sunk in. But so when you have 2353 02:03:48.800 --> 02:03:52.359 a moment like we saw with Himbappe this past weekend, Yeah, 2354 02:03:52.399 --> 02:03:53.840 so go back and see if you can find the 2355 02:03:53.920 --> 02:03:56.359 Luis and Rique conversation where he literally is in in 2356 02:03:56.439 --> 02:03:59.319 Bape's face about being a two way player. That was 2357 02:03:59.319 --> 02:04:01.039 the first thing that stuck in my head when I 2358 02:04:01.039 --> 02:04:03.079 saw the challenge from Mbappe on this weekend. All right, 2359 02:04:03.079 --> 02:04:04.520 what to watch, where to watch it, how to watch it? 2360 02:04:04.560 --> 02:04:09.079 Gossip BERMANINU window and we're out of here uh and 2361 02:04:09.159 --> 02:04:12.960 being an Espanol simulcasting League du Bastia and Lavallet two 2362 02:04:13.000 --> 02:04:15.640 forty five. If you don't have BN Newester tel a 2363 02:04:15.720 --> 02:04:18.000 CEO for the fans LEGA one, LGA one, Max Pro, 2364 02:04:18.079 --> 02:04:20.800 Our buddy Nino Torres at Gold TV, tay say all 2365 02:04:20.880 --> 02:04:23.039 of that, you can get it at Finances FNTZ, dot 2366 02:04:23.039 --> 02:04:26.479 co slash Soccer down here helps them out, helps us out, 2367 02:04:27.039 --> 02:04:31.119 and it helps you out with your continuing degenerate viewing habits. 2368 02:04:31.159 --> 02:04:33.920 When it comes to leagues around the world, CBS Sports 2369 02:04:34.000 --> 02:04:37.000 Network has Monday Night Football in the Championship Whole City 2370 02:04:37.000 --> 02:04:38.960 in Coventry. Our buddy John Nason, I'm sure he is 2371 02:04:38.960 --> 02:04:40.640 gonna be watching that one. At three o'clock Borne North 2372 02:04:40.720 --> 02:04:41.079 and Fulham. 2373 02:04:41.159 --> 02:04:41.600 Is it three? 2374 02:04:41.640 --> 02:04:45.479 On USA Network Espen deport This, Atletico Madrid and Via 2375 02:04:45.520 --> 02:04:49.000 Delite is it three? Fox deport This, syriatt two forty five, 2376 02:04:49.079 --> 02:04:53.399 Peru Promira at eight o'clock, a Lean Zelma and Deportivo Garcia, 2377 02:04:53.439 --> 02:04:57.520 Laso Gold TV, Portuguese Premiara Rossing and Liverpool and Defense 2378 02:04:57.640 --> 02:05:00.720 or Defense or Sporting in Sero doubleheader two thirty and five. 2379 02:05:01.000 --> 02:05:06.199 Universo simulcasting the Premier League ESPN Plus simulcasting Athletian via 2380 02:05:06.239 --> 02:05:08.479 the Lead, as well as at two twenty Huesca and 2381 02:05:08.560 --> 02:05:15.960 Malaga and League du League Spanish Loliga Dose, NBC Sports 2382 02:05:16.000 --> 02:05:19.079 dot Com simulcasting Premier League Paramount Plus simul casting the 2383 02:05:19.119 --> 02:05:22.239 English Championship. Generation Adidas Cup is going on right now 2384 02:05:22.680 --> 02:05:26.439 on MLS's YouTube channel to LUSA Minnesota United You sixteens, 2385 02:05:26.800 --> 02:05:29.800 followed by Bayern Munich in Saint Louis City's U sixteens, 2386 02:05:29.840 --> 02:05:33.000 Monterey and FC Cincinnatis U eighteens and Paul Marrison the 2387 02:05:33.079 --> 02:05:37.039 Dynamos U eighteens at four thirty women does own USA 2388 02:05:37.119 --> 02:05:40.199 German fron Bundesliga at noon, Bayer Livercusan and Cologne Vick 2389 02:05:40.279 --> 02:05:46.279 s Heslega, Mxfeminial at ten o'clock, Monterrey and Cadetto now 2390 02:05:47.239 --> 02:05:51.439 also Gossip Berman and Nuendo for today. Let's see if 2391 02:05:51.439 --> 02:05:55.880 there's any I know this will shock you, but Accorea. 2392 02:05:56.000 --> 02:05:59.279 According to Florid Plettenberg at Sky Sports Germany, Messi and 2393 02:05:59.319 --> 02:06:01.920 friends are very interested in signing Kevin de Brune on 2394 02:06:01.960 --> 02:06:05.359 a free We've talked about it and we've talked about 2395 02:06:05.399 --> 02:06:07.880 how it could work. It would have to be one 2396 02:06:07.880 --> 02:06:09.920 of those Latani deals, or it would have to be 2397 02:06:11.000 --> 02:06:12.720 one of the just if you're going to sign him 2398 02:06:12.720 --> 02:06:13.960 for a long term deal, it's going to have to 2399 02:06:14.000 --> 02:06:15.840 be one of those where he slides in under the 2400 02:06:16.880 --> 02:06:20.439 AM this year and he's an AM player, and then 2401 02:06:20.479 --> 02:06:22.520 you sign him because you don't know who's coming back 2402 02:06:22.600 --> 02:06:25.479 among the Gulfstream Galacticos next year because they're thirty four 2403 02:06:25.479 --> 02:06:28.319 to thirty six and thirty seven, so we'll see. Al 2404 02:06:28.399 --> 02:06:30.640 Nasser could make a move for Luis Diaz as an 2405 02:06:30.680 --> 02:06:34.680 alternative to Venisius Junior, Everton and Ipswich and the Three 2406 02:06:34.760 --> 02:06:37.439 Letter Paper latest to join the club. U twenty one 2407 02:06:37.439 --> 02:06:41.239 striker Liam de Lapp could be Ipswich. Newcastle interested in 2408 02:06:42.000 --> 02:06:46.600 racing gink In Grease midfield or Constantinos corretzis facing competition 2409 02:06:46.640 --> 02:06:48.840 from Bayern munichnopoly in the Premier League. That's the Three 2410 02:06:48.920 --> 02:06:51.840 Letter Paper. Take the information at your own peril. Newcastle 2411 02:06:51.880 --> 02:06:55.119 sent scouts to watch ya Ya Fofana at Anger as 2412 02:06:55.119 --> 02:06:59.000 they want to strengthen their goalkeeping options. Arsenal's interested in 2413 02:06:59.039 --> 02:07:02.159 i Ax's nineteen year old Jarell Hatto this summer, although 2414 02:07:02.199 --> 02:07:04.520 any potential deal for the defender likely to Hinge in 2415 02:07:04.520 --> 02:07:07.640 the future of Yaka. Kivior Gunners also have no plans 2416 02:07:07.920 --> 02:07:10.720 to sign on loan Chelsea as rahiem Sterling on a 2417 02:07:10.720 --> 02:07:13.520 permanent basis Chelsea and born with willing to pay thirty 2418 02:07:13.520 --> 02:07:16.960 five million euro to sign Johnny We know him as 2419 02:07:17.000 --> 02:07:19.800 Johnny or Johnny Cardoso from Raal Bettist and that's from 2420 02:07:20.039 --> 02:07:23.840 shahes in Spanish. 2421 02:07:24.000 --> 02:07:26.760 Jared's joining us again? What did I miss? 2422 02:07:27.720 --> 02:07:36.079 Uh? No, I think that's it. Yeah, man, I don't 2423 02:07:36.119 --> 02:07:39.359 know what to do with myself now that now that 2424 02:07:39.800 --> 02:07:41.000 most of the laws signed this deal. 2425 02:07:41.199 --> 02:07:41.600 Yeah, I know. 2426 02:07:42.199 --> 02:07:43.680 Now where am I going to get my drama? 2427 02:07:44.479 --> 02:07:47.239 Well, you're probably gonna get your drama with de Bruna. 2428 02:07:48.319 --> 02:07:51.399 We talked about this. We talked about this off air. 2429 02:07:52.840 --> 02:07:55.520 I think it was Jason said that Lionel Messi is 2430 02:07:55.560 --> 02:07:59.520 about to get the world's most expensive babysitter and they're 2431 02:07:59.520 --> 02:08:01.840 gonna fit under the cat like debrun is gonna be 2432 02:08:01.880 --> 02:08:04.960 on like a vet minimum getting paid an Apple stock. 2433 02:08:05.479 --> 02:08:07.479 Well, I mean they've got an is, They've got an 2434 02:08:07.560 --> 02:08:11.119 ish ton of AM so for this half season they 2435 02:08:11.119 --> 02:08:15.359 can pay him and he's an AM player and everything's fine. Uh, 2436 02:08:15.439 --> 02:08:17.279 it's it's gonna have to be one of those lots 2437 02:08:17.319 --> 02:08:19.560 ony deals where he's an a player in year one 2438 02:08:19.600 --> 02:08:21.600 and then you figure out who's not staying and then 2439 02:08:21.600 --> 02:08:23.600 he turns into a DP or something like that. 2440 02:08:24.159 --> 02:08:27.119 You let me tell you if that's what they do. 2441 02:08:27.279 --> 02:08:29.640 And I think you're right, John, I think you're right. 2442 02:08:32.520 --> 02:08:34.800 The other owners in this league are going to be 2443 02:08:34.880 --> 02:08:36.640 so pissed off they won't be able to see straight. 2444 02:08:36.800 --> 02:08:40.199 Of course, if you manipulate this into a one year 2445 02:08:40.279 --> 02:08:43.600 Kevin de Bruyn, a deal where he's making not a 2446 02:08:43.640 --> 02:08:47.479 lot of money for the half year, and then you 2447 02:08:47.600 --> 02:08:49.960 brand to bring him in as a full DP next year. 2448 02:08:51.279 --> 02:08:55.119 Mm hmm. They're uh, not confirmed coming to Miami there, 2449 02:08:55.640 --> 02:09:00.720 but but he's he's been Miami is allegedly interested in 2450 02:09:00.720 --> 02:09:01.399 bringing him in. 2451 02:09:01.640 --> 02:09:04.239 Yes, but they don't have it. 2452 02:09:04.359 --> 02:09:07.520 They to do it, he'd have to be on a 2453 02:09:08.039 --> 02:09:11.479 very very friendly number. But because of as John said, 2454 02:09:11.640 --> 02:09:14.760 John's I think John's dead on. Because of the the 2455 02:09:14.800 --> 02:09:17.680 am they have. You could do him on a six 2456 02:09:17.760 --> 02:09:21.720 month deal for not a lot of money, have him 2457 02:09:21.720 --> 02:09:26.079 come in and be a super friend and then uh 2458 02:09:27.479 --> 02:09:30.079 and then signing to a DP deal. No, Derek, I 2459 02:09:30.079 --> 02:09:32.680 couldn't let it go, because the only thing funnier than 2460 02:09:32.760 --> 02:09:34.640 Kevin de Bruna coming here is if Kevin de Bruna 2461 02:09:34.680 --> 02:09:37.000 comes here and Messi and Friends still lose in the 2462 02:09:37.039 --> 02:09:38.399 first round. 2463 02:09:39.359 --> 02:09:43.359 That right now, Messi and Friends have just over that. 2464 02:09:43.479 --> 02:09:46.079 Messi and Friends right now just have over three million, 2465 02:09:46.119 --> 02:09:50.960 one hundred thousand and AM available, so they can If 2466 02:09:50.960 --> 02:09:52.680 you want to spend two and a half on that, 2467 02:09:53.560 --> 02:09:55.920 two and a half of it and get Katie b 2468 02:09:56.560 --> 02:09:58.840 then you, yeah, two and a half for half a season. 2469 02:09:59.039 --> 02:10:01.479 Then that's like that getting paid five next year whatever, 2470 02:10:01.479 --> 02:10:02.640 if you want to extrapolate it. 2471 02:10:02.680 --> 02:10:03.359 But I think it's. 2472 02:10:03.239 --> 02:10:07.479 Gonna be an AM deal and you've got AM to spend. 2473 02:10:08.680 --> 02:10:12.760 LAG does not, and so it's something like. 2474 02:10:12.880 --> 02:10:15.760 G LAG went all in on the playoffs last year 2475 02:10:15.960 --> 02:10:18.760 and they got a trophy. Like, I know, it's fun 2476 02:10:18.840 --> 02:10:22.159 to make fun of the Galaxy right now because they're bad, 2477 02:10:22.840 --> 02:10:27.479 Like they're bad bad. I know it's fun, but guess 2478 02:10:27.520 --> 02:10:29.159 what they hung a banner. 2479 02:10:29.760 --> 02:10:31.560 Yeah you can. 2480 02:10:31.720 --> 02:10:34.439 You can sit there and smile through it all when 2481 02:10:34.439 --> 02:10:37.479 you hung a banner, at least for a while. 2482 02:10:37.560 --> 02:10:37.840 Yeah. 2483 02:10:38.199 --> 02:10:40.720 So yeah, But right now, looking at the AM numbers 2484 02:10:40.760 --> 02:10:44.720 as of the end of February, three point one three million, 2485 02:10:44.720 --> 02:10:48.119 one hundred and fifty and forty two dollars. So if 2486 02:10:48.119 --> 02:10:50.039 you signed Kevin to Bruna for eight hundred and forty 2487 02:10:50.039 --> 02:10:53.760 two dollars a GAM and then you know, extrapolated at 2488 02:10:53.800 --> 02:10:55.560 whatever next year, it's gonna have to be again, it's 2489 02:10:55.600 --> 02:10:57.560 gonna have to be an AM deal for the half 2490 02:10:57.600 --> 02:11:01.000 season he comes in, helps him out out, signs to 2491 02:11:01.039 --> 02:11:03.279 the MEGA deal next year for two years after that 2492 02:11:03.439 --> 02:11:05.640 or whatever. So I mean, that's I mean, that's that's 2493 02:11:05.880 --> 02:11:09.000 you know, if if if, and that is once again 2494 02:11:09.039 --> 02:11:10.800 it has been it has been shared by a bunch 2495 02:11:10.840 --> 02:11:14.720 of different sources that there's interest shocking that that would happen. 2496 02:11:15.000 --> 02:11:16.960 Yeah, David, there is an AM liment that you can do. 2497 02:11:17.000 --> 02:11:19.239 But what But what we mean by that is like, yeah, 2498 02:11:19.279 --> 02:11:22.640 you could you could pay him more than like the 2499 02:11:22.760 --> 02:11:25.159 league minimum because they have the AM to eat it. 2500 02:11:25.560 --> 02:11:28.840 But you couldn't put him on a DP deal obviously, 2501 02:11:29.279 --> 02:11:31.279 but you could. You could have him eat a bunch 2502 02:11:31.279 --> 02:11:35.720 of AM for half a year and then decide, uh, 2503 02:11:35.960 --> 02:11:39.840 you know, in in January that ah, well so well 2504 02:11:39.880 --> 02:11:41.920 you know so and so is leaving. So now we 2505 02:11:42.000 --> 02:11:43.840 got an open DP spot. So now here's Kevin the 2506 02:11:43.840 --> 02:11:46.159 brawn on a full year deal. And yeah, if you 2507 02:11:46.359 --> 02:11:47.920 tell him, I, hey man, you want to come play 2508 02:11:47.960 --> 02:11:50.960 with us, take some take a little less money and 2509 02:11:51.000 --> 02:11:56.319 come play with us for half a year, you know, 2510 02:11:56.359 --> 02:11:57.520 and try and win a trophy. 2511 02:11:57.920 --> 02:11:58.199 Yep. 2512 02:11:58.560 --> 02:12:02.079 And when you're Miami, you're able to in this current situation, 2513 02:12:02.680 --> 02:12:04.960 this current iteration of Miami is able to do that. 2514 02:12:05.039 --> 02:12:09.840 With guys like that, we'll do all right, We're out. 2515 02:12:09.880 --> 02:12:12.159 That's a funday, Jared, you get the last words. 2516 02:12:13.199 --> 02:12:17.279 Oh, to reiterate Bart's thing, make sure we're touching grass 2517 02:12:17.319 --> 02:12:19.439 and not in the mean way, but like, go outside, 2518 02:12:19.520 --> 02:12:22.640 enjoy the weather, get some fresh air in your lungs. 2519 02:12:24.520 --> 02:12:28.560 Of course you're alergi medicine, yes, miles may vary and yeah, 2520 02:12:28.760 --> 02:12:29.199 have fun. 2521 02:12:29.479 --> 02:12:29.680 Yes. 2522 02:12:30.039 --> 02:12:32.520 So for Jared, I'm John. Thanks to Bart, thanks to 2523 02:12:32.560 --> 02:12:34.720 a Thanks to y'all. It was a spirited discussion. It 2524 02:12:34.760 --> 02:12:36.880 always is on Mondays. Whether that's why we call it 2525 02:12:36.920 --> 02:12:39.840 reaction Monday's one way or the other, it's a reaction. 2526 02:12:39.960 --> 02:12:41.640 Back at it again tomorrow, we'll talk about the rest 2527 02:12:41.680 --> 02:12:42.399 of Major League Soccer. 2528 02:12:42.399 --> 02:12:46.039 If there's anything left over from everything that happened today, 2529 02:12:46.039 --> 02:12:48.920 we'll talk about that then. So for Jarrett, who is 2530 02:12:48.920 --> 02:12:50.600 here for the entire time except for when he had 2531 02:12:50.600 --> 02:12:52.079 to dump out to take a meeting and then leave 2532 02:12:52.119 --> 02:12:52.520 the meeting. 2533 02:12:53.600 --> 02:12:56.439 I'm John. Play safe, everybody, moch aplatyall since the seen 2534 02:12:56.479 --> 02:12:56.800 of the show. 2535 02:12:56.800 --> 02:13:02.479 That means they didn't