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<v Speaker 1>We live in Spokane, Washington. One night, my husband and

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to run away like a couple of kids

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<v Speaker 1>with a day of freedom with no grandkids to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>We ran around checking out some local host towns and

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<v Speaker 1>ended our day going up to Mount Spoken. We were

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<v Speaker 1>halfway up when nature called and we hit a pit stop. Afterwards,

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<v Speaker 1>we were checking out the trail maps, amusing about our

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<v Speaker 1>younger days, when a park ranger walked out of a

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<v Speaker 1>trail and struck up a conversation. As he was answering

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<v Speaker 1>some of our questions, we heard aloud whoop. We looked

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<v Speaker 1>at the ranger and watched him turn pale. I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to lighten the mood by saying, looks like Bigfoot's home,

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<v Speaker 1>but the ranger didn't find that amusing. He started to stutter,

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<v Speaker 1>So there must be a dog loose on the trail.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking, this is his first day. My husband

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<v Speaker 1>and I are always camping and doing something in the woods,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know that there was no dog. He and

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at each other and we winked. We both

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<v Speaker 1>have plenty of stories from when we were kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>we know you don't have to see Bigfoot to know

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<v Speaker 1>one's there with you in the woods. Ooh, what's up everybody? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>my name's Cam Buckner. This is the Dixie Crypted podcast

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<v Speaker 1>that you can also find out on the podcast network

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<v Speaker 1>Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Podbean. That's the one I use, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>app you use on your phone, and it's called the

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<v Speaker 1>what If It's True? Podcast. You can also search for

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<v Speaker 1>Dixie Cryptied it'll pop up. We do story after story

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<v Speaker 1>after story from real people who tell about strange things

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<v Speaker 1>that have happened in their life. A lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>are Bigfoot. Most of them are Bigfoot, but some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are UFOs, some of them are demon encounters. Ghost stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Did a story the other day about a mad trapper

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<v Speaker 1>who was called by the local native people to be

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<v Speaker 1>acousta Kai, which is a spirit that they recognize that'll

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<v Speaker 1>just grab people's personalities and drag them into death. So

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<v Speaker 1>we do all kinds of stories, but they're all really good,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope you guys will stick around and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this whole podcast. I've got six good stories and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put an archive story or two in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a big snowstorm coming. Today is Friday, the I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the date is. The twenty third, everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be snowed in across the south in the east,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe this podcast will break the monotony a little bit. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if everybody's staying warm, I expect that we will be

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<v Speaker 1>out of power for if we get as much ice

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<v Speaker 1>as they are predicting, we're gonna be without power for

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<v Speaker 1>at least a week. It could be two weeks. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been through these ice storms before. We're ready plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>pro paying. I got a generator with about twenty gallons

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<v Speaker 1>of gas. Over the last few years, I've cut down

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<v Speaker 1>every true that could possibly drop a branch on my

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<v Speaker 1>house or my office or my fifth wheel. Chicken houses

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<v Speaker 1>could get clobbered, but you know, we'll just deal with

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<v Speaker 1>that if that happens. Anyway, it's if you're listening to this,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably snowed in somewhere. I hope you enjoy it,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'll quit rambling. How about some good stories?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Here we go. In twenty ten, my family

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<v Speaker 1>and I relocated to Colorado so I could pursue a

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<v Speaker 1>new job with better pay and benefits. Every year we

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<v Speaker 1>would venture into the local wilderness to take in the

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<v Speaker 1>vastness of the rockies and check out the critters. One day,

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<v Speaker 1>I found the perfect camp site on Google Maps, and

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<v Speaker 1>I decided that we would try it starting in the spring.

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<v Speaker 1>The location bordered between Rawa Wilderness in northern Colorado and

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to be an old hunting camp. Coincidentally, the word

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<v Speaker 1>Khowa is a Native American word meaning wild place. Not

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<v Speaker 1>many people are seen in this area because you'd need

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<v Speaker 1>a high clearance, a vehicle or an ATV just to

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<v Speaker 1>get there. Even the road getting there is mostly overgrown,

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<v Speaker 1>and often you'll find yourself having to move down to

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<v Speaker 1>trees and creating makeshift bridges over creeks. Motorized vehicles are

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed in the Rabble wilderness, but we found our

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<v Speaker 1>camping spot on its border on Forest Service land. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a combat veteran and I'm a little paranoid. I

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<v Speaker 1>go to the woods heavily armed with full tactical gear.

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<v Speaker 1>They say paranoria is just the overactive sense of awareness,

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<v Speaker 1>and in my case it might be true. My son

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<v Speaker 1>and I went to check out the camping spot in

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<v Speaker 1>the spring of twenty nineteen. It took us five hours

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<v Speaker 1>to get there. The place was beautiful, with a panoramic

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<v Speaker 1>view of the surrounding mountains in the valley below. It

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<v Speaker 1>was right about nine thousand feet in elevation, and it

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<v Speaker 1>could get very cold in the early spring or late summer. Thankfully,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a large firepit built, built, built, built, Let

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<v Speaker 1>me start over. Thankfully there was a large firepit built

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<v Speaker 1>beneath an old, towering pine tree. Hey, y'all, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I mess up on these stories, I really

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<v Speaker 1>do sometimes. Anyway, on with a story. We spent four

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<v Speaker 1>days there hiking around. We saw moose with a calf

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<v Speaker 1>and a few elk, and we were really enjoying our trip.

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<v Speaker 1>But we also saw some weird things that we couldn't explain.

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<v Speaker 1>In the middle of the forest, two hundred meters from camp,

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<v Speaker 1>we found some old, ripped up pajamas in a nearby tree.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw a backpack fifty feet up and it was

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in the branches. My son and I both couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how the hell that happened, but we moved

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<v Speaker 1>on and the rest of the trip was beautiful and

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<v Speaker 1>serene and uneventful, hiking and eating MRIs, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>was time to head home. A year later, my wife

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<v Speaker 1>and son and I went back to count that same location.

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<v Speaker 1>Since we were fans of the show Vikings, we decided

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<v Speaker 1>to have Viking Night during our stay wearing period Viking clothing, armor, shields,

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<v Speaker 1>swords and spears. Whoa. We had a blast the first night,

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Viking music and sipping on mead and hanging

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<v Speaker 1>around the fire till about two am. My son, just

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<v Speaker 1>an hour before, blew our Viking horn, which echoed through

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains in the valley below. Now. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if something came to investigate, but right when we were

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<v Speaker 1>about to call it a night, a powerful guttural scream

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<v Speaker 1>from the ridge directly behind us cut the silence. We

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<v Speaker 1>thought we were hearing a woman being murdered. It was horrible,

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<v Speaker 1>It scared us, and it put us on alert. Ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes la later, the scream tore through the night again.

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<v Speaker 1>A pack of codes started yipping along and then went

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<v Speaker 1>abruptly silent. Right as I grabbed my night vision goggle,

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<v Speaker 1>something started attacking the coyotes. We could hear them yelping

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<v Speaker 1>and whimpering and pain and then silence. I told my

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<v Speaker 1>or it could be a bigfoot. I was joking The

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<v Speaker 1>next morning, we woke up and walked around to see

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<v Speaker 1>if there was anything strange to be found. From the

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<v Speaker 1>south of the camp there was a horrible smell of

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<v Speaker 1>grass and rotten meat. My son and I hiked over

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<v Speaker 1>the southern ridge line and we found a dead cow

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<v Speaker 1>in a small meadow. It looked as if it had

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<v Speaker 1>been dead only a few days. It was bloated up

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<v Speaker 1>from decay, but had no bite marks on its body

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<v Speaker 1>from predation. Nothing seemed to want to go near it.

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<v Speaker 1>This was strange to me, knowing plenty of creatures in

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<v Speaker 1>the wilderness out there would have loved a free meal.

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<v Speaker 1>I figured it must have been sick and passed by

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<v Speaker 1>natural causes where it lay until I saw its head,

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<v Speaker 1>The bottom jaw, and its whole tongue were missing. There

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<v Speaker 1>was nothing natural about this. That evening, around the campfire,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about the screams and the dead cow. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what didn't help the situation was that we were listening

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<v Speaker 1>to bigfoot in alien abduction stories from various podcasts. That night,

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<v Speaker 1>we went to bed armed with booby traps around the

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<v Speaker 1>perimeter of our camp with trip wires and twelve gay

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<v Speaker 1>shotgun blank rounds. Weapons were good to go, and thermal

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<v Speaker 1>and night vision goggles were prepped and ready to rock

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<v Speaker 1>and roll if we needed them. If anything decided to

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<v Speaker 1>come into our camp. I had assault shotguns and buck

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<v Speaker 1>shots and slugs and flamethrow arounds ready not to mention.

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<v Speaker 1>By nineteen eleven, I was on wick of the wilderness

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<v Speaker 1>anyone paranoid yet very good. That night we slept well,

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<v Speaker 1>no shotgun blasted or blood curdling screams in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the night. The outside temperature was pleasant, and we

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<v Speaker 1>heard the sounds of the owls hanging out with us

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<v Speaker 1>in the camp. But the next morning we woke up

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<v Speaker 1>to the smell of something burning. We quickly got out

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<v Speaker 1>of the tent and we saw smoke and fire off

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<v Speaker 1>in the distance. My son and I were walking up

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<v Speaker 1>on the ridge line where we saw the dead cow

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<v Speaker 1>the day before, when he screamed, what the hell is that?

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<v Speaker 1>We were in shock and disbelief. I couldn't make sense

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<v Speaker 1>of what I was seeing. Right in front of us,

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<v Speaker 1>clear as day, we saw a creature at least seven

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<v Speaker 1>feet tall, walking on two legs, dragging a decaying colcarcas

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<v Speaker 1>toward the woods. It was covered in dark hair and

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<v Speaker 1>its hand had fingers just like mine, but much bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>had a strange profile, had a small nose and a

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<v Speaker 1>strong brow line, and a conical shaped head. At that point,

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<v Speaker 1>we needed to pack up and leave, not because of

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<v Speaker 1>the encounter, but because of the encroaching camera and peak

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<v Speaker 1>force fire. The smoke was so thick that it was

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<v Speaker 1>gagging us and burning our eyes, and when we got

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<v Speaker 1>into our vehicle, forcing us to take an alternate route

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<v Speaker 1>through Wyoming to get home. My family now believes that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes legends may be true. We've all discussed this encounter

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<v Speaker 1>and depth. At first, I thought I was a few

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<v Speaker 1>fries short of a happy meal, until my son gave

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<v Speaker 1>me his account of what he saw. Well. A few

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<v Speaker 1>years later, he and I went back. We went to

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<v Speaker 1>the spot where we saw the creature enter the foliage

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<v Speaker 1>and actually found the cow's remains. After that long, it

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<v Speaker 1>was impossible to tell what the creature had done to it,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were able to retrieve the ear tag, and

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<v Speaker 1>we kept it as a souvenir. We still go to

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<v Speaker 1>that spot to leave apples and candy, bigfoot action figures,

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<v Speaker 1>and marbles, just little gifts to say thanks for letting

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<v Speaker 1>us camp in their woods, and each time we return

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<v Speaker 1>everything is usually gone. We were never afraid, we were

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<v Speaker 1>just in total awe. I grew up in Sonora, California,

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<v Speaker 1>and was an avid out doorsman and hunter. As a child,

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<v Speaker 1>I spent many nights around the camp fire, listening intently

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<v Speaker 1>as my uncle told bigfoot stories in and around the

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<v Speaker 1>Yosemite National Park area. So I'm not new to the

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<v Speaker 1>sasquatch topic. But never in my wildest dreams could I

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<v Speaker 1>have guessed I would actually see one of them with

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<v Speaker 1>my own eyes. I'm still paranoid about stuff sneaking around

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<v Speaker 1>our camp and by nature. I still pack weapons, never

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<v Speaker 1>with the intention of killing anything, unless it's in self defense.

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<v Speaker 1>My goal is to observe nature and hope to again

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<v Speaker 1>witness a Bigfoot, the myth and the legend. Thanks Cam

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<v Speaker 1>for all you do, and he signs off Mountain Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great story. Sometimes it may seem like a

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<v Speaker 1>pope fund at people who see a shadow in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods and they claim they've seen Bigfoot, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of understand that, But this guy actually saw the Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 1>The way he writes is, I don't know. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>there's something about the way some people write, maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>a little self deprecating. They don't act like an expert.

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<v Speaker 1>They just act like an innocent, humble witness to something

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<v Speaker 1>that does not fit in the woods, at least in

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<v Speaker 1>our minds, it does not fit in the woods. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this was a good story. Had somebody comment the

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<v Speaker 1>other day about all these fake stories on Bigfoot. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't He's probably up somebody else's butt on some other channel,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a It's like, my response was, can you

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<v Speaker 1>give me one Bigfoot story that you can absolutely, without

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<v Speaker 1>a doubt, prove is true. Nobody in this audience can

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<v Speaker 1>give me a story they can prove is true. You

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<v Speaker 1>either believe these stories or you don't. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe them, just enjoy them. I'm just reading them the

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<v Speaker 1>way people send them to me. But this particular story

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<v Speaker 1>from this guy, I kind of tend to believe what

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<v Speaker 1>he saw, just basically because of the way he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>the story. Anyway, I really appreciate the writers sending at

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<v Speaker 1>Mountain Mike, thanks for taking the time to write this down.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been particularly interested in Bigfoot or sosquatch until recently.

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<v Speaker 1>I sometimes wondered how they could possibly be real, because

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<v Speaker 1>I thought people had roamed and explored every inch of

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<v Speaker 1>this country. I'm retired now and I love to research

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet. At I came across information that made

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<v Speaker 1>me want to research Bigfoot, and that led me to

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<v Speaker 1>your stories. That got me started, and I listened to

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<v Speaker 1>many accounts, and I saw photos and footprints, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been particularly impressed by this tree structures. All of that

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<v Speaker 1>research that I had been doing made me remember something

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<v Speaker 1>Many years ago. My two daughters told me about a

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<v Speaker 1>creature they saw in their bedroom. As I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>had never been particularly interested in Bigfoot, so I brushed

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<v Speaker 1>the event off to the imaginations of my children. But

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<v Speaker 1>everything I've read about recently made me take a hard

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<v Speaker 1>second look at what they saw. If I had only

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<v Speaker 1>known then what I know now, I would have taken

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<v Speaker 1>them more seriously. In nineteen eighty we moved on to

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<v Speaker 1>about forty five miles east of San Antonio. Big ranches

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<v Speaker 1>and forests surrounded us, and our land was so heavily

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<v Speaker 1>a few years, our home was built and we quickly

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<v Speaker 1>fell in love with the peace and quiet. My girls,

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<v Speaker 1>who were six and eight at the time, slept in

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<v Speaker 1>we slept with the windows open with screens to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the bugs out. One day, my older daughter, Amy woke

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<v Speaker 1>up in the middle of the night and saw a big, black,

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<v Speaker 1>hairy ewalk alike creature standing over her little sister. It

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<v Speaker 1>said she opened her eyes wide and stared, and then

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<v Speaker 1>she accidentally moved and made a rustling sound with their sheets.

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<v Speaker 1>The creature was startled and looked at her, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it just disappeared. Poof, it was gone. She woke her

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<v Speaker 1>little sister up and told her what she had seen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it scared them or not, but

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't come and wake me up. They just told

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<v Speaker 1>me about it. The next day. I figured Amy had

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<v Speaker 1>just had a bad dream. I didn't make much fuss

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and life went on. But now, after listening

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<v Speaker 1>to so many stories and other accounts, I wonder was

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<v Speaker 1>this a bigfoot? After discussing it with my husband. He

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<v Speaker 1>reminded me of a time that our son came running

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<v Speaker 1>out of the woods behind the house. He was terrified.

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<v Speaker 1>He told us that he had seen a great, big, black,

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<v Speaker 1>hairy creature in the woods. But we reacted just like

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<v Speaker 1>most people do today when you say that you may

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<v Speaker 1>have encountered bigfoot. We just rolled our eyes and told

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<v Speaker 1>our kids that there was no such thing as big

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<v Speaker 1>hairy monsters. Go figure. Thank you for sharing everyone's stories.

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<v Speaker 1>You may use my name if you want. There may

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<v Speaker 1>not be any blood or guts or terror in this story,

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<v Speaker 1>but it did happen, just like I've told I was

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<v Speaker 1>hired to drive for a Midwestern trucking company. My first

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<v Speaker 1>truck was a single bunk freightliner and I had a

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<v Speaker 1>load going west. The truck drove well. It was night,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite time to dry because it was less traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>It was around two am in New Mexico when I

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<v Speaker 1>had driven into a storm like I'd never seen. It

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<v Speaker 1>rained so hard that I could barely see fifty feet

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the truck. The lightning lit up for miles.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed I was the only vehicle on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing too unusual, but it was isolating to say the least,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I couldn't hear my engine anymore. It died

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<v Speaker 1>right in the middle of nowhere. I pulled over and

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<v Speaker 1>set the brakes and turned off the headlights. I put

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<v Speaker 1>on the four way flashers and cursed to myself, Now

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<v Speaker 1>what do I do now? No mechanic. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>computer in the truck for dispatching in formation or emergencies,

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<v Speaker 1>but I knew it would be hours before any help arrived.

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<v Speaker 1>I grabbed my flashlight, stepped out of the truck, and

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<v Speaker 1>I started looking around. Good instinct told me to check

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<v Speaker 1>the power cord running under the trailer from the rear

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<v Speaker 1>of the truck. The cord had a seam, and I

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<v Speaker 1>pulled it apart, and I found that water had crept in,

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<v Speaker 1>and I dried off everything with my handkerchief, and I

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<v Speaker 1>put it back together. I hopped in the truck, soaked

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<v Speaker 1>wet from the rain, and I looked heavenward and I

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<v Speaker 1>said I could use some help to get my truck

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<v Speaker 1>to the garage. I turned the key and hit the

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<v Speaker 1>starter button, and the engine fired to life. I looked

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<v Speaker 1>up again and I said, thank you. I stopped for

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<v Speaker 1>the night. It took some carry new Mexico and changed

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<v Speaker 1>into some dry clothes, and I fell asleep in the sleeper.

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<v Speaker 1>I was out in an instant. Hauling a truck takes

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<v Speaker 1>it out of you. Driving through the storm didn't help.

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<v Speaker 1>I slept hard, and I dreamt too, first time in

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<v Speaker 1>a long time. And in my dream I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful Native woman dressed in white fur, bright and vivid

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<v Speaker 1>and full of color. There was an older Native man

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<v Speaker 1>beside her, wearing a full headdress, only he was black

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<v Speaker 1>and white. There was no expression on his face. In

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, I went into the little store nearby for coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the heck of it, I told the clerk

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<v Speaker 1>about my strange night. She turned pale. Asked her what

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<v Speaker 1>the matter was, and she pointed to a postcard right

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<v Speaker 1>behind me, and she told me there was a card

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<v Speaker 1>there that I should take a look at. I found

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<v Speaker 1>the one she meant. I saw the picture of a

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<v Speaker 1>woman who looked a whole lot like the woman in

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<v Speaker 1>my dream, and I read the text on the back.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the history of Tucumkayrie, New Mexico, and how

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<v Speaker 1>it got its name. An Apache chief was preparing himself

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<v Speaker 1>to step down, but he couldn't up his mind between

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<v Speaker 1>Tucum and Tonopah, two warriors competing to be his successor.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end, the chief settled on a duel. The

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<v Speaker 1>winner would not only become chief, but he would also

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<v Speaker 1>marry his daughter Carrie, but Carrie was already in love

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<v Speaker 1>with Tokum. The duel began and both warriors fought and

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<v Speaker 1>Tokim was killed. Carrie was so distraught that she killed

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<v Speaker 1>Tonopah and then she took her own life. Her father,

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<v Speaker 1>in his grief, killed himself too, but not before calling

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<v Speaker 1>out Tokum Carrie, hence the name of the town. I

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<v Speaker 1>left that town rested, but I wasn't really rested. I

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<v Speaker 1>had never been to that town before. But the dream

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<v Speaker 1>I had was vivid and real. Somehow I was blessed

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<v Speaker 1>with a visit from Carrie and the chief, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will never forget it. Okay, that's not a bigfoot story

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<v Speaker 1>or any kind of monster story, but I had read

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<v Speaker 1>it before send it to Rebecca. She cleaned it up

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<v Speaker 1>and did a great job on it. And the writer's

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<v Speaker 1>original story was fine, but we just sometimes we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of rearrange things to make it more story Like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very interesting story. Some of these Native American legends

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<v Speaker 1>and the oral history of the Native people. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Native people don't have a written language, they never did,

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<v Speaker 1>so everything was an oral history. This is one that

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<v Speaker 1>goes I don't know how far back, but it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And that story if it's put on the back of

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<v Speaker 1>a postcard, I don't know. I guess some of them

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<v Speaker 1>could be made up. I remember reading I love to

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<v Speaker 1>read about wildlife, and I was reading a history of

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<v Speaker 1>the coyote. As far as we know about the coyote,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Native people out west almost look at the

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<v Speaker 1>coyote and almost all the animals is some kind of deity.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go deep into that because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't fully understand exactly how they see wildlife. But the coyote,

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<v Speaker 1>he was considered a wily you know, wiley cody was

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<v Speaker 1>crafty and knew how to survive, and boy do they

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<v Speaker 1>know how to survive. But anyway, there were so many

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<v Speaker 1>different takes on the cody, and one story the cody

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<v Speaker 1>might be the highest deity or the highest spirit that

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<v Speaker 1>they look to, maybe for guidance or for teaching them

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<v Speaker 1>how to approach life. And then in other ones, the

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<v Speaker 1>coodi is the lowest, so I guess from one tribe

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<v Speaker 1>to another, they look at different animal spirit animals in

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<v Speaker 1>different ways. Anyway, I don't know why I told you.

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<v Speaker 1>That just made me think of the what I had

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<v Speaker 1>read about the CODI because when I got to the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the book, I'm like, Okay, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any definitive information really on the coyote, other than different

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<v Speaker 1>tribes think different things about it. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That probably wasn't that interesting, but it made me think

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Anyway, this story about this man's dream is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you sending it. I come from a devout

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<v Speaker 1>Mormon family, and I was raised to believe in the

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<v Speaker 1>spirit world, angels, and demons, and I always saw these

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<v Speaker 1>experiences through the lens of my faith. The supernatural ist

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<v Speaker 1>something I believe in deeply, and the spiritual aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>my religion gave context to what I was experiencing. One night,

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<v Speaker 1>up feeling tingly and cold and unable to move. I

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<v Speaker 1>was scared and I didn't know what was happening. And

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly I saw something right in my face. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a man, and after a few seconds he disappeared, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was left terrified and paralyzed with fear. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>move until sunrise. This happened again another time, and oddly enough,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom had the same experience, and not too long

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<v Speaker 1>after mine. The last experience in my parents' room was

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<v Speaker 1>when I woke up from a nightmare and I opened

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<v Speaker 1>my eyes and I saw awe man without a face

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on my mother's dresser. She couldn't see him, but

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him. I think I scared the crap out

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<v Speaker 1>of her when I told her. My faith told me

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<v Speaker 1>that this wasn't just a bad dream, but possibly a

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual warning or a manifestation of something unseen. Years later,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in the fourth grade, I had outgrown

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping in my parents' room and I now shared a

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw a giant man standing in my closet.

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<v Speaker 1>He watched me, and as I stared at him, he

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<v Speaker 1>moved into the closet, and when I looked away, he

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<v Speaker 1>kept peering out and staring at me, and he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>disappear until daylight. This went on for months. I was terrified,

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<v Speaker 1>and my belief in the supernatural made it feel real

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that I couldn't explain. My last experience

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<v Speaker 1>in that house happened in the same room. My brother

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<v Speaker 1>and I had shared an an L shaped bed in

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<v Speaker 1>I opened my eyes and I saw something right in

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<v Speaker 1>it was my brother playing a trick, but then I

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<v Speaker 1>realized he was asleep. The thing disappeared shortly after that.

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<v Speaker 1>It solidified my belief that what I encountered was more

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<v Speaker 1>than just my imagination. It was something real, something spiritual.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was a teenager in the suburbanserve, Toronto, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let me start that again. When I was a teenager

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<v Speaker 1>in the suburbs of Toronto, my friend and I would

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes sleep out in a pup tent in the backyard

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<v Speaker 1>on hot summer nights. We would drag the sleeping bags

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<v Speaker 1>out onto the lawn where it was cooler and we

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<v Speaker 1>could watch the sky. Now this was back in the sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>so there wasn't much like pollution. One night was so

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<v Speaker 1>clear and had no clouds. We talked, pointing out interesting

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<v Speaker 1>things as we saw them. There was a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time between those moments, and we mostly quiet in our

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<v Speaker 1>own thoughts, even though we were shoulder to shoulder. When

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<v Speaker 1>it was good and dark in the southern sky, my

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<v Speaker 1>eye caught what I thought at first to be a star.

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<v Speaker 1>It moved slowly and smoothly for a few seconds before stopping.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't alert my friend because once it stopped it

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<v Speaker 1>was next to impossible to pick out. But within a

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<v Speaker 1>few seconds, another light from the other direction did the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing, moved steadily in the direction of the first one,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it stopped. That's when I could make out

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<v Speaker 1>a pattern with a third star that moved toward the

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<v Speaker 1>others until they formed a perfect equilateral triangle. Nothing else

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<v Speaker 1>in the sky was as perfectly arranged. After a few seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>all three of these lights rotated slowly as a triangle

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<v Speaker 1>and then shot off information out of sight. The disappearance

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't immediate, like a light going off. I could see

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<v Speaker 1>some acceleration was involved, but it was still over in

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<v Speaker 1>just half a second. What I still remember to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>more than fifty years later, is when I turned to

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<v Speaker 1>tell my friend. He was already looking at me, silent,

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<v Speaker 1>with his mouth open. It was like one of those

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<v Speaker 1>scripted moments you see in the comedies. He had seen

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<v Speaker 1>it too, the whole thing. That was the satisfying part.

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<v Speaker 1>This wasn't something I got wrong from a few mixed

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<v Speaker 1>up observations or my eyes playing tricks on me. He

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<v Speaker 1>told me what he saw happen, and it was exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what I had seen that same summer and about the

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<v Speaker 1>same area of the night sky. I watched one star

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<v Speaker 1>go haywire. It seemed to arise from outside my field

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<v Speaker 1>of vision, and it stopped right over us. It rapidly

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<v Speaker 1>moved up and down and left and right in diagonals

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<v Speaker 1>and so on, and then it stopped moving all together.

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<v Speaker 1>These moves transversed the sky only with the width of

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<v Speaker 1>two fingers of my outstretched hand, and were incredibly fast,

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<v Speaker 1>And then, like the previous sighting, it zoomed like a

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<v Speaker 1>bat out of hell into the darkness. By two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and five, I was an adult and I was living

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<v Speaker 1>in a small town over an hour north of Toronto.

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<v Speaker 1>The night sky was even better for stargazing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>made a point of taking the dogs out at eleven

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<v Speaker 1>PM because I knew that some satellites traveled overhead around

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<v Speaker 1>that time of the night. I'd sometimes see other things

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<v Speaker 1>going on different paths and blinking. I knew they weren't aircraft,

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<v Speaker 1>and I later found out through much research that they

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<v Speaker 1>were likely space junk, and the blinking effect was due

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<v Speaker 1>to it tumbling as it orbited. One night, walking the

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<v Speaker 1>dogs and getting a wicked cricket my neck from having

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<v Speaker 1>to turn my head toward the sky for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw something that weirded me out, and it took

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<v Speaker 1>me back to my childhood. There were three lights on

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<v Speaker 1>the eastern sky, traveling slowly in an equilateral triangle. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't mistake what I was seeing. They were moving from

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<v Speaker 1>north to south, staying level, with one light in the

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<v Speaker 1>lead and the other two behind, like wingmen. If they

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<v Speaker 1>were aircraft, which I knew they were definitely not, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't wait to get back to the house to browse

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<v Speaker 1>for an answer. I'm a real science guy. I have

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<v Speaker 1>been since grade school and I completed four years of

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<v Speaker 1>science at university. I don't jump to conclusions, a weigh

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence, even if it's not what I want to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't go on hearsay or conspiracy theories. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>browse for UFOs. I browsed astronomy topics, and I got

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<v Speaker 1>my answer in less than an Hourtional Oceanic and Atmospheric

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<v Speaker 1>Administration is a branch of the US Department of Commerce

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<v Speaker 1>and has been deploying satellites for a long time that

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<v Speaker 1>survey all kinds of information about the oceans. What I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was a system that I think has been discontinued.

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<v Speaker 1>They put up trios of satellites that were tethered by

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<v Speaker 1>cables to a fixed triangle, and they orbited in that way,

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<v Speaker 1>running in a path from pole to pole. What I

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<v Speaker 1>was seeing was then passing north to south over the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlantic Ocean. My inquiry got some replies from enthusiasts who

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<v Speaker 1>were pleased to read I had seen them, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were surprised that I could spot them without the use

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<v Speaker 1>of a telescope, because that is rare. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>happy that I had gotten a rational answer and that

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't getting a replay of those strange nights as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid in my parents' backyard. My friend from back

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<v Speaker 1>then never brought it up, and I didn't either. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I could have told him about the satellites. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all I have. Cam have a good one. Signed Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>here's a guy who saw lights in the sky and

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<v Speaker 1>could have made this a big deal. He could have

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<v Speaker 1>made it like, oh man, it's absolutely aliens and all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. But he did a little digging, some extensive digging,

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<v Speaker 1>when I say extensive, more than I would ever do,

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<v Speaker 1>and he finds out that these are satellites tether together

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<v Speaker 1>to map maybe map out the ocean or study the

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<v Speaker 1>Atlantic Ocean. I thought that was cool. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot people ever do that. I wonder if Bigfoot people

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<v Speaker 1>ever go Maybe what I saw was the light moving

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods. Maybe what I saw was a tree stunk.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe what I saw was this or that. Maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go back and look in that same area

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<v Speaker 1>and see what it looks like at different times of

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<v Speaker 1>the day and make sure that lights and shadows aren't

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<v Speaker 1>playing tricks on me. Nope, Bigfoot people never do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but these UFO people do. Obviously, Charlie did it, so

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was pretty cool. Charlie. Thanks for the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed it.
