Speaker 1: So apparently Mike Florio said on one O five to
Speaker 1: three of the Fan Thursday morning, and this is a
Speaker 1: quote I did hear yesterday. You hear all sorts of stuff,
Speaker 1: and I don't like to traffic in stuff I've only
Speaker 1: heard because I don't know how accurate it is. But
Speaker 1: I did have somebody tell me that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: talked to the Titans about moving up to the number
Speaker 1: one pick.
Speaker 2: That is crazy. I mean, that is just crazy on
Speaker 2: every level this team.
Speaker 1: That I just I mean they first of all, look,
Speaker 1: I don't know what they would be trading up to
Speaker 1: number one to get. That's why I don't think there's
Speaker 1: any truth to it. I mean there's in other words,
Speaker 1: So he goes on there and he says, look, I'm
Speaker 1: about to say something crazy. I can't verify, and I
Speaker 1: don't do it, but I'm going to go ahead and
Speaker 1: say it.
Speaker 2: Watch this. So I don't think there's any validity.
Speaker 1: Too that the guy who's gonna go number one is
Speaker 1: basically a Micah Parsons starter kit.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Uh well, Travis Hunter, No, I don't have number one
Speaker 1: on that dual carter. Yeah, I thought Travis Hunter he
Speaker 1: number one. He wears number eleven. Is he from Penn State?
Speaker 2: Penn State? Yeah, the problem is he's got a foot
Speaker 2: thing that he's gonna have to drop foot, get a
Speaker 2: surgery on or something. Maybe he will, he will be
Speaker 2: ready for training camp and all that. So no worries.
Speaker 1: So is this a new development? I guess I had
Speaker 1: spent all year thinking Travis Hunter was the number one picks.
Speaker 2: Best off, it's a player, so yeah, okay, but also
Speaker 2: is he the best defensive player? That's the whole thing?
Speaker 2: Oh like that why you wouldn't draft him number one?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I mean Bill Carter as a pass rusher?
Speaker 1: Right, so yeah, just hypothetically, what if the Cowboys did
Speaker 1: want to move up to the number one pick?
Speaker 2: How expensive would that be? What would they have to
Speaker 2: give up Michah Parsons? Uh, next year's first, maybe this
Speaker 2: year's second or next year's second rounder?
Speaker 1: Wait, they wouldn't have to give up this year's first also?
Speaker 1: Well yeah ye yah twelve? Yeah yeah, so Micah twelve
Speaker 1: and next year's first. Unless Nico's running the Titans than nothing.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, orts joke. You can have to Marcus Lawrence
Speaker 2: is he under contract? I'm not sure what the deal
Speaker 2: is on him, I know. I think it's he's got
Speaker 2: to decide if he's coming back or not. Caivins made
Speaker 2: comments that sound like he's probably not. I thought he
Speaker 2: I thought his contract was over, but had it too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm actually not sure on that. I just find out. Uh, okay,
Speaker 2: So this is absolutely ludicrous. No matter. They're not doing
Speaker 2: that in a million years.
Speaker 1: There's there's not a guy that makes sense to go
Speaker 1: do that for right if they if they needed a
Speaker 1: quarterback and there was a quarterback there that made sense,
Speaker 1: you could understand that. But that's not what their situation is. Honestly,
Speaker 1: what they need to do is trade the other way.
Speaker 1: They need to trade back and go get more picks.
Speaker 1: What are you saying, Okay, well, I gotta disagree with
Speaker 1: what Skin just said. Okay, I don't know, but if
Speaker 1: you need what you could use a wide receiver and
Speaker 1: a cornerback. Right, he's not playing every down two way,
Speaker 1: maybe not every down, but he doesn't have to play
Speaker 1: every down, so your ways to So you think he's
Speaker 1: a full time cornerback that occasionally plays receiver.
Speaker 2: Who ends up making what the top tier pass rushers
Speaker 2: make thirty five million dollars a year, which that'll soon
Speaker 2: be forty or whatever once Mike I signs his deal.
Speaker 2: But the point is, if you thought you were getting
Speaker 2: a two way player who's still giving you snaps on
Speaker 2: both sides, doesn't matter. He's giving a good to a player,
Speaker 2: and he's good or really good at both ends, right,
Speaker 2: then you don't have to pay him like thirty million
Speaker 2: dollars for your wide receiver work and thirty million dollars
Speaker 2: for your cornerback work.
Speaker 1: But you know you're saying it's a bargain. You're saying
Speaker 1: it's a bargain, So go get the player that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and every NFL team besides the Titans, I believe
Speaker 2: has been reported besides the Titans have him as a
Speaker 2: two way player. The Titans think he's just a cornerback.
Speaker 1: Okay, but you understand what I'm saying, right, if you
Speaker 1: have to be primarily one, like Dion was a two
Speaker 1: way player, but he just kind of did some offense
Speaker 1: every now and then, but he was an everyday cornerback,
Speaker 1: you would not spend them. You would not trade Micah
Speaker 1: Parsons and and.
Speaker 2: Your number one?
Speaker 1: Are they twelve? Trade Micah Parsons? You're twelve and a
Speaker 1: second round pick to get a full time wide receiver,
Speaker 1: you would and you probably wouldn't do it to get
Speaker 1: a full time cornerback.
Speaker 2: But it's a starter on both sides. He's not going
Speaker 2: to be a fude.
Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 2: I mean he every college game he played like one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty snaps. But he's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: The other thing is this, the Cowboys defense is only
Speaker 1: good when Mike is there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you so you'll probably sign Micah and
Speaker 2: you know, just move on. But that's what it would
Speaker 2: take unless you wanted to do maybe there was a
Speaker 2: way to do it. So let me all in picks
Speaker 2: and you signed Micah. Let's now, let's let's make this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would well I don't know, uh, but
Speaker 1: let let's leg at it this way.
Speaker 2: Let's look at it at all.
Speaker 1: Right, we're going to give up Micah and the number
Speaker 1: twelve pick and a second round pick next year to
Speaker 1: do it. All right, So how much better is defense
Speaker 1: without Micah Parsons? But you've added a cornerback of course? Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, yep, yeap. So there's nothing that makes sense
Speaker 1: for them to do it. They need to trade back
Speaker 1: and get more picks. They might have just missed on
Speaker 1: their last two first round picks. I have opinions on
Speaker 1: what they need to do, and it definitely involves offensive
Speaker 1: line and defensive line, the boring stuff.
Speaker 2: And twelve's fine, that's a good spot to be there
Speaker 2: for that. I think.
Speaker 1: If the running back conversation gets tricky and it is interesting,
Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of it there, but maybe,
Speaker 1: And that's where I think this is.
Speaker 2: I think you could stay there at twelve. I don't
Speaker 2: want them to get it backwards like they like, this
Speaker 2: is the fear right. You had Travis, you had Zach,
Speaker 2: you had Tyron, you built it up, then you took Zeke,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what Zeke looks like if he's
Speaker 2: playing behind the New York Giants offensive line, which this
Speaker 2: might be, and then you have Saquon running for three
Speaker 2: yards of carry. So I want them to get it
Speaker 2: right that way. And I think you can do both.
Speaker 2: I think you can get a running back later in
Speaker 2: the day and you can get off it's a lineman
Speaker 2: or if it's a blyman. The other thing is are
Speaker 2: they going to sign Osa? And that's what they got
Speaker 2: to figure out too well. Mike Fisher reported this morning
Speaker 2: they're gonna give him a twenty plus million dollar deal
Speaker 2: and it's not gone. I haven't heard another word on
Speaker 2: that since I saw Mike Fisher's tweet at eight am
Speaker 2: this morning. So you've been do you have his do
Speaker 2: you have his account? Start pops up? You know it
Speaker 2: pops up? Yeah? What is he reporting that for? Um?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. I don't even know.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, it probably smart of Florio to throw that
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: I've never thought of him as that kind of guy.
Speaker 2: Maybe he is that, Oh Florida, that's just oh, the
Speaker 2: biggest dotion media. I hate that guy. Just total fake story.
Speaker 2: He has a son of a bitch. Just fake story. Guy.
Speaker 2: They can't tell you something. So I missed the first
Speaker 2: thirty seconds of the show that it was much more
Speaker 2: than that. It wasn't a minute, really, I just mistimed it.
Speaker 2: I miss timed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in my coffee as walking on holl You know
Speaker 1: how we have like promotions girls over there. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: distancing from this too. I wanting to do with this
Speaker 1: conversation of whatever you're doing. I like when you like
Speaker 1: yell that I'm distancing from something. You're kind of saying.
Speaker 1: I am guilty. Hold on, man, I gotta get away
Speaker 1: from this one. But you know how we have like
Speaker 1: three four like part time. They're not up here every
Speaker 1: day and they're you still there. Sometimes I'm like, are
Speaker 1: they doing arts and crafts?
Speaker 2: I mean I said literally the other da I saw
Speaker 2: him cutting something and I was like, what's happening? So
Speaker 2: I was walking in the hall down the hallway right,
Speaker 2: I just had my coffee, moved everyone, and as I
Speaker 2: turned the corner, I hear the loudest burp of all time.
Speaker 2: My god, what?
Speaker 1: And I walk and I see the two promotions girls
Speaker 1: who are probably college aged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm making eight dollars an hour. They're by the
Speaker 2: printer trying to fix the printer. And I go, WHOA,
Speaker 2: what happened over here?
Speaker 1: And I was walking because I kind of knew I
Speaker 1: was cutting it close so and thinking I was thinking
Speaker 1: more about the show than I was.
Speaker 2: And I think I embarrassed him. Who was it?
Speaker 4: I don't know, I.
Speaker 2: Never I mean, I've seen him. I know there's always
Speaker 2: out there doing the work.
Speaker 1: Do you think it was one of our promo girls
Speaker 1: just had to have been the only people in the hallway.
Speaker 4: Amazing, but there and they acted.
Speaker 2: And they kind of acted like okay, but.
Speaker 1: There was two together, why wouldn't one throw the other
Speaker 1: one under the bus?
Speaker 2: Go yeah, Jesus Jamie.
Speaker 1: And there's some guys and offices over there, could have
Speaker 1: been one of the guys on this is in this
Speaker 1: hallway right here, where is like this corridor that's the
Speaker 1: vacant one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's really never anyone there right right edited
Speaker 2: right by that printer. Whoa, what happened over here?
Speaker 4: You should have complimented them then they would have admitted
Speaker 4: to it.
Speaker 2: I should have got adapt him. Yeah, man, that smells great.
Speaker 2: That whole encounter reminds me of the intro.
Speaker 1: About the Cowboy song said.
Speaker 2: Dark time bocus right now you're ready's.
Speaker 1: Right, it's right right, right time to do one.
Speaker 5: Poor came with Effan with ill show you're gonna ruling it,
Speaker 5: except with similar street pursuing it. Donold out Shaw shank
Speaker 5: through the sewer, kid now what chilling at the eagle? Yeah,
Speaker 5: we're doing it. Three a clock on the dock, got
Speaker 5: a habit for my house, a goat status. Howard starting
Speaker 5: to get craddic shows that enough multiplied like a rabbit
Speaker 5: to the end.
Speaker 2: Zone out crank it up, beat the habit.
Speaker 3: I want a hang out with my friends, rocking on
Speaker 3: the radio, my home on Moy's hands, talking on the radio.
Speaker 1: It's time to to this wall kid.
Speaker 2: All we got team radio, all right.
Speaker 1: I want to get your opinion on how do you
Speaker 1: even deal with something like this? So I have a
Speaker 1: cabin that you can rent or you know, lease or
Speaker 1: whatever on Airbnb. It's in the Broken Bow area. So
Speaker 1: the way that whole thing, I don't really handle it
Speaker 1: day to day. We have a management company that deals
Speaker 1: with it, and it's sort of a hands off thing, like,
Speaker 1: for example, my daughter's going there this weekend. Right, So
Speaker 1: in the whole Airbnb world, if there's a bad review,
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, all hands on deck, what do we do?
Speaker 2: What are we going to do here? So I want
Speaker 2: to read this review.
Speaker 1: Oh and I want to see what you how you guys,
Speaker 1: would how do you even address something like this? Because
Speaker 1: you can go in there or I can't. The management
Speaker 1: team can go in there and they can respond. Three
Speaker 1: out of five stars. The cabin was deaf, only beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's located in a great area with lots of fun
Speaker 1: things to do.
Speaker 2: Only bad thing. I have to say, is the cabin
Speaker 2: is haunted.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, everyone in my family had experienced something,
Speaker 1: even our service dog.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's the review. Are you allowed to have
Speaker 2: a dog there?
Speaker 4: We do allow yeah, but also three out of five
Speaker 4: because it's haunted.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I mean it's beautiful, there's lots of
Speaker 1: great things to do, but every the dog had a
Speaker 1: haunted experience.
Speaker 2: Do you think a dog for their service if their
Speaker 2: service dog, I do, absolutely, Okay, I do too.
Speaker 1: Okay, So this ultimately, yeah, this type of publicity could
Speaker 1: be great for your cabin, Like I think it would
Speaker 1: lead to more people renting it than less. Right, yeah's
Speaker 1: looking for some fun to do and broke a book,
Speaker 1: Go rent this haunted cabin.
Speaker 2: I mean theoretically yes.
Speaker 1: And then I thought about, all right, can I send
Speaker 1: a link to this to haunted house hunters or whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's the thing out there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the way that the Airbnb works, like, ooh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna pull your cabin down when we start showing people
Speaker 1: cabins because here's a bad review because of a ghost,
Speaker 1: because of the ghost that the dogs, even the dog
Speaker 1: saw it well.
Speaker 4: And it didn't even hurt them like, did you have
Speaker 4: a bad experience with the ghost?
Speaker 2: Right? That's that's all Daisy left? So I really don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, can we get them on the show?
Speaker 1: Can you get a contact number and we could reach
Speaker 1: out to him and just say, hey, Fin, what happened?
Speaker 1: Are you willing to come on the show and let's
Speaker 1: talk about what went down?
Speaker 2: That's possible. Maybe I don't know. Let me look into that. Okay,
Speaker 2: did the girl from the ring crawl out of the
Speaker 2: TV screen like that?
Speaker 4: I would understand a low review.
Speaker 2: It was haunted. It's very vague.
Speaker 1: I was talking to the guy who runs the management companies, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's out in the wilderness. There's possums and things, right,
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you supposed to even like I
Speaker 1: don't even know how to respond. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: let me come up with something and I'll send it
Speaker 1: to you and you can decide if you want to
Speaker 1: post it or not. So everybody was haunted? So a
Speaker 1: husband or wife, kids, and service dog? All How was
Speaker 1: the service dog haunted? Service dog sounds like a real pee, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a ghost dog was there?
Speaker 4: Maybe the dog was growling at nothing right or what
Speaker 4: they think is nothing when actually it was probably a
Speaker 4: possum or squirrel or any other I mean it.
Speaker 1: Said everyone in my family had experienced something.
Speaker 2: Now how vague is that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone in my family experienced something, even our service dogs, oh,
Speaker 1: multiple service dogs.
Speaker 2: Is it mandatory to leave a review? I don't think so.
Speaker 2: All right, So if you're going to take the time
Speaker 2: to leave the view, you should detail it. Yeah for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean most of these reviews are really good, line.
Speaker 1: Short in I think you should leave their situation where
Speaker 1: somebody has a service dog and he goes, what do
Speaker 1: you even have?
Speaker 2: And she goes, what like to need a service dog? Like,
Speaker 2: what do you even have? I mean, nice to find out.
Speaker 2: I would like to find out what Daisy has.
Speaker 1: It is very much like the Bill Birthing where they're
Speaker 1: letting people go at the very front of the airplane.
Speaker 1: He's like, wait a minute, which one of you guys
Speaker 1: actually saw action? I don't think everyone who serves should
Speaker 1: get this treement as long if you saw action.
Speaker 2: Okay, I get it, but you know she's gotta doing
Speaker 2: some desk work. We'll get the pro shops.
Speaker 1: Do you do you have any Are you hesitant to
Speaker 1: let your daughter go up and stay at your haunted cabin. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I think she needs a good scaring now. She's stayed
Speaker 1: there before, and she's never been haunted, and she her
Speaker 1: and her friends take great care of it.
Speaker 2: So, oh man, this might get booked out for the
Speaker 2: next five years if please start branding this as a
Speaker 2: haunted cabin rightously. Vin's got a point, right name, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't murder happened here or something I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the old haunted cabin on the hill. We'll call
Speaker 1: it terrified in the trees. Come on out and experience
Speaker 1: the scariest day of your reviews.
Speaker 2: To be like, dude, nothing happened. I was promised you
Speaker 2: good haunting.
Speaker 1: Well, then we'll hire someone to be a fake ghost.
Speaker 1: Right all right, there you have it. There's the intro segment.
Speaker 1: We are off and running today on a Thursday, February
Speaker 1: twenty seventh. Coming up next, KT, where you gonna take
Speaker 1: some in the Hollywood Shuffle.
Speaker 2: A confusing story here one of Hollywood's greatest actors found
Speaker 2: dead with his wife and dog. What happened next? All right,
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Speaker 1: You know we're the home of Dallas Mavericks basketball, the
Speaker 1: game with the Hornets. We'll be on our airwaves tonight.
Speaker 1: You can hear pregames starting at seven and then the
Speaker 1: tips at seven thirty. And we got Mavericks tickets to
Speaker 1: give away. It is the Detroit Pistons game Man. The
Speaker 1: Pistons are good and they will be in town March
Speaker 1: twenty first, and that's a Friday night.
Speaker 2: We got tickets to give away to it.
Speaker 1: So the first person using the iHeart app, there's a
Speaker 1: talkback feature on it. That iHeart app allows you to
Speaker 1: stream content and play podcast, listen all that stuff, and
Speaker 1: we like to use that to give away stuff and
Speaker 1: reward people that listen to the show. So the first
Speaker 1: person that uses the talkback feature leaves their name, their
Speaker 1: phone number, and their email address and the answer to
Speaker 1: the question. We talked about it the first segment, What
Speaker 1: was the reason that someone left a bad Airbnb review
Speaker 1: on my cabin up in Oklahoma and broken bow?
Speaker 2: We told you why.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, you know, first person that leaves that
Speaker 1: talkback message, bam, you are going to get those tickets.
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Speaker 1: The Today game, which is never podcasted. You have to
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Speaker 2: But right now it's time for this juicing news hot God.
Speaker 1: Live.
Speaker 2: Come stay on top in the shovel shut right. Actor
Speaker 2: Gene Hackman, ninety five years old, was found dead in
Speaker 2: his New mex To go home with his wife, Betsy Arakawa.
Speaker 2: She is in her sixties. She was a pianist. Apparently
Speaker 2: Jeane was found in something called a mudroom. This is
Speaker 2: in Santa Fe Now a mudroom. I didn't fully know
Speaker 2: what that was.
Speaker 1: We used to have a mudroom. My mom always had
Speaker 1: names for rooms and pieces of furniture and like whatever.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 1: I think it means like for us, our mudroom was
Speaker 1: in between like the garage and the rest.
Speaker 2: Of the house. He has to take your shoes off. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we have a mudroom.
Speaker 1: It's basically it's like you've been described, and usually there's
Speaker 1: it's basically a transitionary where you hang coats and you
Speaker 1: put your dirty shoes A good idea. Yeah, Usually they'll
Speaker 1: come off like a garage into a laundry room or
Speaker 1: something like that. Most of the time it's for areas
Speaker 1: where there's a tremendous build up of mud.
Speaker 2: I gotta say, man, the Gene Hackman death might be
Speaker 2: the best thing that's happened to mudroom sales in years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're going to skyrocket. Betsy Arakawa his wife. Why are
Speaker 2: you saying it like that? Oh? Betsy all right?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: She was found dead on the floor of a bathroom. Oh.
Speaker 2: A dead German shepherd was found between ten and fifteen
Speaker 2: feet away from her in the closet of the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Christina had no reaction to Betsy ar Okawa being found dead,
Speaker 1: but the German shepherd elicited a reaction.
Speaker 4: Look, it's just like movies. When people die, I'm like, okay, man,
Speaker 4: that kind of sucks, But when a dog dies, no,
Speaker 4: I'm out.
Speaker 1: I've mentioned this before. It was the made for TV
Speaker 1: movie about the Hindenburg. It was probably a seventh grader
Speaker 1: and at the end of the movie they showed the
Speaker 1: faces of everyone that died. I'm just sitting there watching it,
Speaker 1: and then they showed the dog that died on the Hindenburg,
Speaker 1: and I just lost it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is that because we think that humans probably have done
Speaker 1: something bad at some point, so it doesn't bother us
Speaker 1: as much. But the dogs are always hundred percent innocent.
Speaker 1: I think that probably has something to do with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is that why you didn't have any sympathy for any
Speaker 1: of the other deaths.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's very sad. But yes, all dogs
Speaker 4: do is love you. That's all they do.
Speaker 2: You think about I'll say not true to the stray
Speaker 2: dog that ran up to me yesterday when I went
Speaker 2: on a walk.
Speaker 1: He was also attacked by dog. Christina, what do you
Speaker 1: have to say to defend that dog? That dog attack
Speaker 1: Kevin Turnerman shepherd too.
Speaker 4: He might have smelt something on you or something.
Speaker 2: Did you have a did you have a bunch of
Speaker 2: ham in your pocket? Yeah? I think I was hearing
Speaker 2: some mutton the other the thing two years ago. Dogs
Speaker 2: you never go, oh, who's a bad boy. They're a
Speaker 2: good boy.
Speaker 4: But the owners could ruin the dog. And that's why
Speaker 4: people are horrible.
Speaker 1: So this is how we're gonna remember Gene hack Shean's
Speaker 1: in the mudroom dead, Betsy's in the bathroom dead, German
Speaker 1: Shepherd ten feet away in the closet of the bathroom dead.
Speaker 2: Huh, all right, really weird. Then, and then it gets
Speaker 2: reported by the way that no foul play suspected. So
Speaker 2: what happened was a maintenance worker was scheduled to come
Speaker 2: to the house yesterday afternoon. He walked in. I guess
Speaker 2: the mud first sees Gene goes in and he calls authority,
Speaker 2: so that's that's who's found them. The Then then later
Speaker 2: in the day, so it's reported early this morning, no
Speaker 2: foul play suspected, and then by about noon I saw, well,
Speaker 2: suspicious play, a suspencion. This says they're ruling this suspicious
Speaker 2: and they're launching an investigation. They did find an open
Speaker 2: prescription bottle and scattered pills near the body of Betsy
Speaker 2: on the counter in the bathroom. But scattered pills is
Speaker 2: that two pills? Is that nine pills? Is it fifteen?
Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't really say. The fire department did
Speaker 2: not find signs of a carbon monoxide leak, and there
Speaker 2: were no obvious signs of a gas leak in the home.
Speaker 2: I have a prediction. Shoot shoot score.
Speaker 1: Gene Hackman, who is ninety four five ninety five, passed
Speaker 1: away in the mudroom from being ninety five. Betsy saw
Speaker 1: this and was so distraught she couldn't move. She couldn't
Speaker 1: live without Gene Hackman. She went to the bathroom and
Speaker 1: took her pills to ode and hit the ground, and
Speaker 1: then the dog ate some of the remaining pills, and
Speaker 1: so Betsy and the dog died of prescription pill death.
Speaker 2: Okay, there's two other dogs that did not eat any
Speaker 2: of the pills.
Speaker 1: They were smart enough, not because they were like, oh
Speaker 1: that dog over there didn't the pills didn't work out.
Speaker 2: We should go in here and hump something. I imagine
Speaker 2: they weren't living in a small adobe either, because they
Speaker 2: did say two other dogs found on the property. No, go, okay,
Speaker 2: you know they were writing a tractor. Okay, I do
Speaker 2: worry about that.
Speaker 1: Anytime I dropped anything on the ground, I assume my
Speaker 1: dogs are gonna eat it.
Speaker 2: So if she dropped pills on the ground, there's like, I.
Speaker 1: Can't remember what it is now. We had to do
Speaker 1: with Rocksy or Luca not too long ago. So one
Speaker 1: time it was your dog, Yeah, Luca's my dog. Luca
Speaker 1: ate a bunch of asprint or something. I don't remember
Speaker 1: what it was, and we're like, ah G did it. No,
Speaker 1: we had to take her to the vet and they
Speaker 1: do this thing and it costs fourigner bucks or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's way too expensive. Then she did it again like
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. She was eating this like bone thing
Speaker 1: you know that you're supposed to chew up and it's
Speaker 1: good for your teeth. And she was panning really hard,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that thing's lodged inside her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I was like, I don't want to go
Speaker 1: to the vet at for you know whatever. It was
Speaker 1: late at night. I want to go to the vet
Speaker 1: and pay him the money.
Speaker 2: So we gave her.
Speaker 1: Some little oxide something or other to make her throw up,
Speaker 1: and she threw up this thing that had been lodged
Speaker 1: inside her.
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 2: It was that bone.
Speaker 1: The bone got stuck in her in her passageway, and
Speaker 1: that thing made her throw up and it cost us nothing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you can, if you that's a dog trick.
Speaker 1: If your if you think your dog took a bunch
Speaker 1: of ass brand or ate a bunch of chocolate, just
Speaker 1: give them the stuff and they'll throw up and you'll
Speaker 1: be good to go.
Speaker 2: So I have a few more details, but I would
Speaker 2: first I do like detective waves premise here thank you
Speaker 2: hypothesis both. In fact, I would like to award him
Speaker 2: a fake mustache and a magnifying glass temporarily, you know,
Speaker 2: you'll take it back if he's wrong. Yeah. If he's wrong,
Speaker 2: you'll be removed. But for now enjoying it. Yeah, use
Speaker 2: him on the LA broadcast tonight. Why would you want
Speaker 2: to give me a badge, a new watch, a hat? Okay.
Speaker 2: So once the Sheriff's got there, they found Betsy, Betsy
Speaker 2: lying on her side on the bathroom floor with a
Speaker 2: space heater near her head, which might go to your thing.
Speaker 2: Maybe she was trying to keep her head warm while
Speaker 2: she was dying out.
Speaker 4: That doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: The deputy terrible, detective man, give me a coffee. The
Speaker 2: deputy did say that he suspected that the heater could
Speaker 2: have fallen with her, like she could have fell, which
Speaker 2: now pills fall hurt her body showed signs of decomposition. Oh, already.
Speaker 1: He could have been there for okay, I could have
Speaker 1: been there for a while. So in this case, I'm
Speaker 1: changing my theory. Gene Hackman went in there and found
Speaker 1: Betsy had taken pills and the dog had taken pills,
Speaker 1: and he was rushing to go get help. And because
Speaker 1: he's ninety five, he died in the mud room as
Speaker 1: he was running to get help.
Speaker 2: Are you changing it? If you're changing it, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have to take away the fake mustache, the hat. You
Speaker 2: don't buy that one. I just like the original. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna stay with your original. So the detectives have a
Speaker 2: gut feeling they don't really know what happened, but they
Speaker 2: do kind of.
Speaker 1: She she was so much younger, She had plenty of
Speaker 1: life to go, not a ton, but she was nothing
Speaker 1: before she met Geene. Yeah, she was aist. She was
Speaker 1: about to have the whole Gene Hackman empire. Allder herself
Speaker 1: apparently a.
Speaker 4: Famous penist, though she didn't want to live without him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think also he lost a lot of
Speaker 1: money in real time sports action.
Speaker 2: I don't think he did. I don't think that's true,
Speaker 2: and not a good thing to spread about him on
Speaker 2: this day. Yeah, she was a businesswoman, former pianist in
Speaker 2: decades long companion. Much more on her than that. It's
Speaker 2: a tragedy. Man's yeah, incredibly said, that's a tough deal. No,
Speaker 2: it really is.
Speaker 1: You want someone that you've admired their work forever. You
Speaker 1: want them to die peacefully. You don't want them to
Speaker 1: have a death. And now there's a bunch of controversy
Speaker 1: and weird stuff going on around.
Speaker 2: Although to live to be ninety five hell of a run.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, made it, you know, And he he aged
Speaker 1: really quickly, at least in my brain, because he just
Speaker 1: stopped making movies at some point two and four. Okay,
Speaker 1: so he's quit making movies in two thousand and four,
Speaker 1: even though he was arguably one of the greatest actors
Speaker 1: of all time. He just stopped when he still had
Speaker 1: you know, I guess, So how old would he have
Speaker 1: been this seventy five seven? Oh, she's aboubout at the
Speaker 1: retirement age unless he was going to run for president
Speaker 1: sixty three or whatever.
Speaker 2: So but he still could have kept making movies. He
Speaker 2: was choosing not to be in movies, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, I it seemed like he was still
Speaker 2: around because he's on TV all the time because of
Speaker 2: all these movies are on.
Speaker 1: But the other thing, But the other thing about Gene
Speaker 1: Hackman is go watch Bonnie and Clyde in nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 1: He looked to be about thirty years older than he
Speaker 1: was and then stayed that age forever. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: pictures showed up of him, I don't know, about six
Speaker 1: months ago and I was like, damn, yeah, Like he
Speaker 1: suddenly looked like he had aged like forty years overnight.
Speaker 2: Honestly, him and Hoosiers compared to him and the Replacements
Speaker 2: as the coach looks about the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, look at him in the French connection. It's
Speaker 1: like fifteen years. Hoosiers is fifteen years later, and he
Speaker 1: catolics the same. Yeah, but Hoosiers and the Replacements are
Speaker 1: they kind of near each other. Hoosiers would have been eighty.
Speaker 2: Seven, Replacements was two thousand, Okay. I would have thought
Speaker 2: Hoosiers was in the seventies, so Hoosiers was late eighties.
Speaker 1: And then coming up later, we'll talk about the films
Speaker 1: of Barbara Hershey, who of course was in Hoosiers. Well,
Speaker 1: didn't really care for that casting. Oh not a huge fan.
Speaker 1: Interesting did you like her in Last Temptation of Christ?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yep.
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, coming up next and around the sports,
Speaker 1: where are we going to go? KTI media fight? Oh
Speaker 1: we've got a media fight. Oh we got some cowboys
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Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: It's worldly attitudes, living gorgeously, regretfully, engaging everything nearly soundly.
Speaker 1: So I had lots of different things that happened to
Speaker 1: me yesterday that my brain was just not there skinning.
Speaker 1: I had a meeting. I forgot all about it. I
Speaker 1: couldn't remember the name of three eighty. But this was
Speaker 1: the weirdest thing that happened. These are normal things, maybe
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Speaker 1: because I was sitting at an intersection on my way
Speaker 1: to the office and I pulled forward to move through
Speaker 1: the red light, and I was like, why aren't the
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Speaker 1: I was at Spring Valley. I was at Spring Valley
Speaker 1: getting ready to go under the toll way and take
Speaker 1: a left on the service road of the tollway to
Speaker 1: head towards the office, okay, And I'm sitting there to
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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it is red.
Speaker 2: Smoking bottom of me. After effects are you on? Gunn?
Speaker 2: Thank God?
Speaker 1: Thank god that I survived that. That could have been
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Speaker 1: you were actually representing the other guys. I've been dying
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Speaker 1: long Yeah, brain fog yet, But right now it's time
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Speaker 5: Listeners, here comes KT tweets were around.
Speaker 2: Now, it's cool around the sports. KT fun Tweets has
Speaker 2: all the sports. Yeah, do you want to hear about
Speaker 2: the sports media fight?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: Jordan Schultz works for Fox. Here's what he put out
Speaker 2: a tweet yesterday. And by the way, everyone in the
Speaker 2: NFL world is at the Combine in Indianapolis, which is
Speaker 2: all together, like everything is close to each other in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy. Is Eric Dickerson there? He's probably not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you never know, and I still consider
Speaker 1: him a part of the NFL world. But if he's
Speaker 1: not there, I understand.
Speaker 2: I have his location on let me just find out
Speaker 2: his location tracker and just on your phone where Eric Dickerson? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I never know. I'm tired with a lot of former
Speaker 2: NFL out Yeah, I'm a big deal Raiders Raiders minority
Speaker 2: owner Tom Brady. This was Jordan Schultz, reported. Jordan Schultz
Speaker 2: is a reporter for Fox. Raiders minority owner Tom Brady
Speaker 2: recently hosted Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford at his home in Montana,
Speaker 2: where they spent time together and went skiing. Brady has
Speaker 2: been actively trying to commit Stafford to join the Raiders
Speaker 2: and discussions are ongoing. Several teams are interested in Stafford
Speaker 2: if the Rams decided to move him.
Speaker 1: Okay, so he's still under contract, but there's just a
Speaker 1: lot of chatter that they want to part ways.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, and maybe he doesn't want to go back,
Speaker 2: and who knows.
Speaker 1: I'm question no, and I realized, you know, the other
Speaker 1: team has to be upset for this sort of thing,
Speaker 1: and maybe they've said no, no, go out there and
Speaker 1: see who wants you.
Speaker 2: But that used to be called tampering. Well, just keep
Speaker 2: in mind when Matthew Stafford was traded from the Lions
Speaker 2: to the Rams as a member of the Detroit Lions,
Speaker 2: he ran in too. Sean McVeigh and Hawaii, Yeah and
Speaker 2: resort together, dude, they were hanging out yeah, and they
Speaker 2: were plotting their trade that they knew was going to happen.
Speaker 2: They were like Hackey sacking together. And everyone kind of
Speaker 2: knows that Tom Brady's got a lot of pool and
Speaker 2: for the Raiders right now, now that could go away
Speaker 2: based on what Tom wants to do. But Tom's yeah,
Speaker 2: he's a minority owner, but he's got a lot to say.
Speaker 2: He has more say than Cuban does as a minority
Speaker 2: owner of the Mavericks right now. I was even didn't
Speaker 2: win six Super Bowls. I guess you can prove that.
Speaker 5: Ye.
Speaker 2: Here's the point though that report by Jordan Schultz other
Speaker 2: they the wording is very important. Hosted him at his
Speaker 2: home in Montana, where they spent time together and went
Speaker 2: skiing Ian rapaport of the NFL network. Thirty four minutes later, okay, tweets.
Speaker 2: Raiders minority owner Tom Brady and rams Quebeck Matthew Stafford
Speaker 2: ran into each other at a ski resort in Montana.
Speaker 2: Sources say the meeting, unplanned, was not extensive or in depth,
Speaker 2: and did not include Brady quote hosting or quote recruiting Stafford,
Speaker 2: despite reports saying otherwise. Dun So, that's yesterday, but again,
Speaker 2: the whole NFL world is in Indianapolis, except Dickerson. I
Speaker 2: know exactly where this Starbucks is. That's right by Lucas
Speaker 2: Oil Stadium where everyone is in the Convention Center. There's
Speaker 2: a Starbucks. There's an interesting note that doesn't really matter much,
Speaker 2: but Jordan Schultz's dad is apparently the former CEO of Starbucks,
Speaker 2: Howard Schultz. But that's insane.
Speaker 1: It's just just a weird He's the man responsible for
Speaker 1: the Seattle SuperSonics no longer existing.
Speaker 2: What a jerk. Yeah, this is a report from Pro
Speaker 2: Football Talk. King Douche again, Mike Florio. I don't like
Speaker 2: this guy, but whatever. Rapaport was talking to an agent
Speaker 2: at the Starbucks Bucks right Schultz approached rap Report and
Speaker 2: said we need to talk. Rappaport replied, we don't need
Speaker 2: to talk. I do want to point out that Jordan
Speaker 2: Schultz is about six to two Ian Rappaport is about
Speaker 2: five to five. Like not the if they were gonna
Speaker 2: get physical. Schultz then made accusations about rapp Report. Rap
Speaker 2: Report regards these accusations as unfounded. The two men were
Speaker 2: essentially face to face. This is Florio saying all this, Yes,
Speaker 2: Schultz said, if you have anything to say, say it
Speaker 2: to my effing face. If this continues, we're gonna have
Speaker 2: an effing problem, Schultz says via text to Pro Football Talk.
Speaker 2: They does not recall using profanity. Rappitport then asked Schultz
Speaker 2: to step back. The incident was reported to the NFL Security.
Speaker 2: NFL Security has taken statements from multiple witnesses. Okay, Schultz
Speaker 2: told Pro Football Talk via text message, it really isn't
Speaker 2: anything too much. Ian and I had a verbal confrontation.
Speaker 2: It lasted a little over a minute. Multiple agents and
Speaker 2: reporters were nearby. Rap Report was the one who called
Speaker 2: security shortly after, but it never escalated further.
Speaker 1: I don't think, Yeah, I don't think you can be
Speaker 1: a football reporter and being around all those meatheads. If
Speaker 1: you're going to call security because someone's coffee is too
Speaker 1: close to you, it's over and he's already left, and
Speaker 1: he called security to say he worried it was a
Speaker 1: physical altercation.
Speaker 2: That's already over week. So so here's what happens. Probably
Speaker 2: is Brady's team, I'm assuming here or the Raiders. Text
Speaker 2: Ian Rapaport and go, dude, that is not what happened.
Speaker 2: When he needs you to text tweet this out. They're
Speaker 2: not hosting, you know, whether it happened or not to
Speaker 2: clear the tampering. But very pretty juicy, pretty funny, you know,
Speaker 2: in terms of a media fight, like we're all working
Speaker 2: in media, i'd love us. I want to say one,
Speaker 2: two three, and then say a name of the first
Speaker 2: person you'd like to punch in media.
Speaker 1: You have to punch one person in media. Yeah, say one,
Speaker 1: two three, and then everyone say their name. Okay, one,
Speaker 1: two three, MD.
Speaker 2: Who'd you say, Christine?
Speaker 4: I said myself, because you said you have to say
Speaker 4: their name or your name you.
Speaker 2: Want to punch yourself.
Speaker 4: I don't want to punch anyone in media beside, so
Speaker 4: I said myself.
Speaker 2: You know what, I gave up on punching people a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago to right like there's it kind
Speaker 2: of hurts the hand. Yeah, I mean I just like
Speaker 2: to punch people right before they're eating something.
Speaker 1: Though. Yeah, there's like ten people here in the on
Speaker 1: iHeart floor three I would punch before Christina.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's three or four? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, So who did you say? I think I said Kat,
Speaker 1: but I can't remember Kat.
Speaker 2: Who did you say? I don't remember Uh huh. Who
Speaker 2: do you think Kat said?
Speaker 4: I heard of McDowell somewhere.
Speaker 1: Say what you said, Dan Dallas? Yeah, Dann mcdell. Dam
Speaker 1: mcdell's in media. I would punch him so hard. He's
Speaker 1: in He's an independent, non corporate streaming. He's a creator. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a content creator. He came over to my house
Speaker 1: one time and refused to eat a delicious roast that
Speaker 1: my wife made.
Speaker 2: Kiss salmon and broccoli for that guy because he's a baggie. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm a bitch. This is The NFL Players Association does
Speaker 2: this thing every year, and I love it because it
Speaker 2: tells you some details about how the players are feeling
Speaker 2: about things. We're gonna have to listen to spend from
Speaker 2: the owners of the front office, and they ask all
Speaker 2: these player to give him a big poll. The treatment
Speaker 2: of families, food and dining area, nutrition is training room,
Speaker 2: all that stuff. The owner just all this stuff. The
Speaker 2: Cowboys finished tenth out of thirty two teams. They you know,
Speaker 2: fourth and treatment of families, which that actually makes sense.
Speaker 2: It sounds like a very Jerry Jones thing. Absolutely families, Yeah,
Speaker 2: sixth in the locker room you go through. So what
Speaker 2: I found though that was interesting to me is a
Speaker 2: couple of things they got in the locker room an
Speaker 2: A six out of thirty two teams, but a third
Speaker 2: of the respondents report ongoing plumbing problems in the locker room.
Speaker 2: Oh even since Travis Reddick retired. Yeah, it's crazy, right,
Speaker 2: that's insane. That was strange.
Speaker 1: So wait, I want to make sure because every body
Speaker 1: that leaves the Cowboys organization and ends up playing for
Speaker 1: the Texans goes and does a report with the ESPN saying, man,
Speaker 1: it was so hard to be in the locker room
Speaker 1: because people are looking at us all the time.
Speaker 2: But they got an A, they got an AM all right,
Speaker 2: because overall it is good. Head coach Mike McCarthy fourteenth
Speaker 2: out of thirty two teams. The players feel that McCarthy
Speaker 2: was highly receptive to locker room feedback on the team's needs.
Speaker 2: It last you know what, I don't know, but I
Speaker 2: gotta cherry too. It's got to be the coach of
Speaker 2: the North Carolina tar Heels. The players think ownerships contributes
Speaker 2: to a positive team culture committed to building a competitive team.
Speaker 2: But what I also like during all this is the
Speaker 2: teams that have some really crazy things to say, boy,
Speaker 2: the the Bengals seem like a trash organization. They do
Speaker 2: not provide daycare for their players and kids. They're well paid.
Speaker 2: The Rams too. They charged seventy five dollars for one
Speaker 2: kid and fifty dollars for each additional child got to pay?
Speaker 2: What the person? Why would that just be assumed that
Speaker 2: that's free. I just figured NFL, that's not the NFL.
Speaker 2: They billions of dollars. Just assume everything was taken care
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: That a lot of corporations will do that, like that's
Speaker 1: part of their benefits package. Hey, we have daycare here
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. But you usually think about it
Speaker 1: for people that are, you know, working in an industry
Speaker 1: where they're making you know, like sixty grand a year.
Speaker 1: Not guys were the lowest paid guys making a couple
Speaker 1: hundred grand. Yeah, the players aren't giving them a discount.
Speaker 1: Yeah true True food and dining area and Cincinnati. The
Speaker 1: Bengals gave it an f. They said the food is
Speaker 1: not fresh. Oh, the taste of food a four point
Speaker 1: eight two out of ten.
Speaker 2: I think. Uh, let's see where the Cowboys did struggle
Speaker 2: was training facility and an amount not not the facility
Speaker 2: but the number of like strength coaches and things like
Speaker 2: that which we'd heard had been reported training staff. They
Speaker 2: didn't feel like they had enough, not enough time for
Speaker 2: one on one treatments, not enough people on staff, things
Speaker 2: like that. That's where the Cowboys struggled. There was one
Speaker 2: that was funny about the chief coach.
Speaker 1: Came through there and cleared out a bunch of their
Speaker 1: strength coaches. The Chiefs had a have it.
Speaker 2: You know, they have a home game hotel, like a hotel.
Speaker 2: They say four home games. Cowboys used to do this.
Speaker 2: I don't they still do it. I don't think they
Speaker 2: they did with Garrett. They got an f on that
Speaker 2: they're saying, like these hotel beds are like not good
Speaker 2: to sleep on sometimes, like some of the previous occupants
Speaker 2: stuff was in there. And then the Patriots team team
Speaker 2: playing team travel, they're like, man that they've got the
Speaker 2: oldest team plane. They got enough. There's no Wi Fi
Speaker 2: on their team plane, so they can't binge watch TV
Speaker 2: shows or you know, just watch tape of their game
Speaker 2: or whatever. There's ashtrays on the seats and things like that,
Speaker 2: so Bob Kraft hasn't updated as a team plane. So
Speaker 2: there's your NFL fantastic work, Kevin.
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Speaker 2: know where Greenville is, isn't it out by?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: It's east of like love Joy, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Green Greenville runs Greenville runs parallel with seventy five, and
Speaker 1: it's basically kind of goes all the way down into
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Speaker 2: Greenville, Texas. Right, Yeah, yep. I think you guys kind
Speaker 2: of nailed it, honestly. I mean there's a you said
Speaker 2: love Joy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like east of love Joy, right, Like, it's
Speaker 1: just it's further east. It's further east, but it's it's
Speaker 1: I think it's significantly further east than Lovejoy. I think
Speaker 1: you're just saying, as a point of context, you went
Speaker 1: up north seventy five and went east on three eighty,
Speaker 1: you'd run into Princeton, Farmersville, and then Greenville.
Speaker 2: Okay, But if you were going up thirty Fate a
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Speaker 2: you've under ground. The point is there are people in
Speaker 2: Greenville listening right now, okay, and shout out to them.
Speaker 2: But also it's going on in Greenville. Man students at
Speaker 2: a middle school in Greenville gave each other tattoos using
Speaker 2: timperary ink with the same needle. Uh oh measles. Now's
Speaker 2: off the time kids. They said the teacher's role in
Speaker 2: this matter will be reviewed to determine further disciplinary action
Speaker 2: is warranted. But I don't know if it's like the
Speaker 2: teachers just allowing that to happen. I think kids are
Speaker 2: just gonna do what they do.
Speaker 1: But they're giving each other like prison tattoos and glass Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably not good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very strange.
Speaker 4: A sewing needle like Yeah.
Speaker 2: The details are foggy, and it's probably because they don't
Speaker 2: want to do that with kids. But temporary ink with
Speaker 2: the same needle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we used to do that with pens, but not
Speaker 4: actual needles.
Speaker 2: Drawing, Yeah, I guess I didn't think about that. Tattoos.
Speaker 2: They're they're going into you with the tattoo when they
Speaker 2: do the art. I never thought about it over Yeah, wow,
Speaker 2: how long does the scabbing last?
Speaker 4: Not that long?
Speaker 2: Maybe a week by the way, Stabbing Westward NBFD not
Speaker 2: Scabbing Westward, that would be a different band.
Speaker 4: That is.
Speaker 2: Why are we going to start the segment. We did
Speaker 2: it with the first story okay, egg stuff boys, we
Speaker 2: got egg problems. USDA has come out and said egg
Speaker 2: prices could jump forty this year. Oh god, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a lot, right. If your business is based on eggs,
Speaker 2: it's a tough time. So what about all these people?
Speaker 2: It's I remember this got real trendy.
Speaker 1: People were going out and getting chickens and having their
Speaker 1: own chicken coops, like even out in the burbs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is that still a thing? And are are your Are
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Speaker 1: If you want to do that, you can, but the
Speaker 1: price and cost of doing that and getting the food
Speaker 1: for the hens of the chickens would cost you more
Speaker 1: than just buying the eggs.
Speaker 4: My mom, she she visited me last night. She actually
Speaker 4: brought eggs from their hens. He and they have like
Speaker 4: different kind like the different type of chicken. I don't
Speaker 4: I don't remember what kind, but they're like smaller. The
Speaker 4: eggs are smaller, and they're pink and blue, and they're
Speaker 4: really cool looking. I haven't ate them yet.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of scared to do hens just crank out
Speaker 1: eggs or does the rooster have to keep going in
Speaker 1: there and.
Speaker 2: Roosters pounding.
Speaker 4: If roister does that, then it's going to hatch an
Speaker 4: actual baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, which could be problematic. But yes, they just
Speaker 2: kind of they're just always popping out the eggs. They eat, bang,
Speaker 2: and poop. Yep. Now this was this is I'm glad
Speaker 2: you just because this was a this was a thing
Speaker 2: I read today and I'm trying to find exactly where
Speaker 2: I had it. There we go. So the USDAS says
Speaker 2: that the bird flu is obviously the big problem. Egg
Speaker 2: prices could surge over forty percent. The bird flu outbreaks
Speaker 2: have led to the cutting of over one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty six million birds. So, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 2: how many birds are out there, right, but that sounds
Speaker 2: like a pretty huge number. But just because you hear
Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty six million, who knows what if
Speaker 2: there's five hundred million birds, how many bird I don't
Speaker 2: understand how that all works.
Speaker 1: There's more birds than there are people according to me
Speaker 1: making it up. Yeah, but the story I read was
Speaker 1: about people who would as a guy who had done this,
Speaker 1: it's probably a farmer, honestly, but he was basically saying,
Speaker 1: you just go buy your eggs like they're gonna get
Speaker 1: a little more expensive. Just go buy your eggs, because
Speaker 1: buying the coop, buying the food to them, to tend
Speaker 1: to them, the responsibility goes into it will cost you more,
Speaker 1: oh than buying the eggs.
Speaker 2: And defending it against snakes, wolves, cotes. Snakes is the
Speaker 2: big one.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants to get in there and eat those hens.
Speaker 1: Chicken thieves, chicken thieves. Absolutely, that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 1: Now does your mom you said they have different kinds
Speaker 1: of chickens. Do they have the boneless kind?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, those are the best, Those are the best kind. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they just lay there yeah yeah, but they're so tender. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 2: So McDonald's though apparently has not heard about this bird
Speaker 2: flu going around by they now jacking up the egg McMuffin. Well,
Speaker 2: they're celebrating the egg McMuffin turning fifty and they're throwing
Speaker 2: a big birthday bash next week March second. What's March second?
Speaker 2: I guess that's going to be a saurday. I guess
Speaker 2: it's Sunday. Yeah, yeah, it's fat Sundays. Mars the twenty eighth,
Speaker 2: they're having eggs McMuffin Day on Sunday where fans can
Speaker 2: snag an egg McMuffin or sausage McMuffin for just a
Speaker 2: buck through the McDonald's app.
Speaker 1: That is the greatest sandwich of all time, the sausage,
Speaker 1: egg and cheese McMuffin. Really, it's the best. You know.
Speaker 1: I'm not an anti egg person, but I don't love egg.
Speaker 2: That's a place I don't like their egg. What I
Speaker 2: feel like it?
Speaker 4: Okay, When I saw that they didn't have to like
Speaker 4: do a surcharge on their eggs, I did think. I
Speaker 4: was like, how much of that is real egg? And
Speaker 4: that's why they're not worried about it?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they have mass produced fake egg. Damn
Speaker 1: they're delicious then if they are, I mean, I thought
Speaker 1: about that they treat their eggs same way they treat
Speaker 1: their ribscrib Have you guys ever gone in the back
Speaker 1: of a McDonald's and seeing like a butcher just chopping
Speaker 1: up some brisket and some rib By the way, speaking
Speaker 1: of ribs, is it true it's maybe to help the
Speaker 1: blood clot for Wimby, they might have to remove a rib.
Speaker 1: What I didn't know that does he have thracic syndrome
Speaker 1: like Matt Harrison. Are they trying to make it to
Speaker 1: where he's able to take care of himself? Men Manson,
Speaker 1: Well we can do that surely.
Speaker 2: Well really, dude, he's very limber removing a rib. You know,
Speaker 2: the first thing we all think of, the wiless thing
Speaker 2: is the guy from Nickelback. I claimed he could do it,
Speaker 2: but never showed proof. Yeah, I mean, do you really
Speaker 2: want proof of you doing that out there in the world?
Speaker 2: If you're a lead singer of a band making a
Speaker 2: bunch of money, like, do you need that publicity? I
Speaker 2: would other that then be known as a liar.
Speaker 4: Oh and if you're Nickelback, you could probably use that publicity.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: They'll take care, They'll take all they can get. Hey, guys,
Speaker 2: you want to see me do porn, but it's just me.
Speaker 2: No programming. Nine one one's gonna air overnight due to
Speaker 2: mads and hornets tonight catch that. Oh no, wait, what
Speaker 2: is this kind of I've been obsessed with this lately.
Speaker 2: Whenever the MAVs do air on WFAA, they have a
Speaker 2: like programming note and tonight it's rescue. It's a nine
Speaker 2: to one one. It's gonna have to air overnight. Okay.
Speaker 2: I wonder how many people at home are just like,
Speaker 2: damn it, so again this basketball MAVs Hornets is knocking
Speaker 2: nine one one. Reno off the air? No nine one one?
Speaker 2: Oh the show nine one one? What does that show? Yeah?
Speaker 2: But I think they do have different locations.
Speaker 1: Marino nine one one was a comedy show, but lone
Speaker 1: Star nine one one was the one that had Rob Lowe.
Speaker 4: I'd be upset if it was Reno nine one one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god, I would be upset. We need
Speaker 2: to bring that back. By the way, have you been
Speaker 2: watching a lot of that on ABC?
Speaker 4: I mean, they don't have new episodes anymore.
Speaker 2: But I don't think you'd be that upset. Ben, you
Speaker 2: once said that Wendy's made a craft burgers. They did.
Speaker 1: They were making craft burgers for about three weeks. You
Speaker 1: mass produced craft burgers. No three years. They were into
Speaker 1: it for a while. They were into it for a while, dude.
Speaker 1: They even served it on the Butcher's Paper.
Speaker 2: Story. Here is AI had been used at their drive
Speaker 2: through at one hundred locations. They were testing it, but
Speaker 2: they are now expanding AI and their drive throughs at
Speaker 2: Wendy's six six hundred locations. Now and if it's going well,
Speaker 2: they're going to keep adding it. Honestly, it's not compute.
Speaker 1: There's somebody of me placing an order earlier today. It
Speaker 1: look I hate for any humans to lose jobs, but
Speaker 1: that's the way it's going. And if anything, drive throughs
Speaker 1: need this more than anything else in the world. It
Speaker 1: is so hard to communicate in a drive through at times.
Speaker 1: Have we thought about just the next five years of
Speaker 1: people losing their jobs, Like, what are people going to do?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is there stuff to do? Well?
Speaker 1: Vault?
Speaker 4: So I went to a Taco bell that used AI
Speaker 4: in the drive through. But then you drove up and
Speaker 4: there was a person there to you know, collect your
Speaker 4: money and actually give you your food and make sure
Speaker 4: you had everything.
Speaker 2: Robots can't do that. Yeah, And now it's pretty common,
Speaker 2: the automated thing, Hello and welcome. Would you like to
Speaker 2: try out whatever the new special is? And you just
Speaker 2: say no, and then a real person comes to talk
Speaker 2: to you. Yeah, and then it's just two beaten people
Speaker 2: talking to each other.
Speaker 1: Robots cannot force mayonnaise on my Jimmy John's no matter
Speaker 1: what I order, So you go in?
Speaker 2: Do you like going in? Nope?
Speaker 1: Most of my food decisions when I'm in a hurry,
Speaker 1: or based on whether or not there's a window, I'll
Speaker 1: eat lesser food if there's a window to pull up to.
Speaker 1: We are technology is happening so fast, the need for
Speaker 1: people to do jobs is gonna lessen, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: be overpopulated. It's just the way I mean, those two,
Speaker 1: all those things happening simultaneously can't be good. The one
Speaker 1: guy saying that it's not is Elon. Yeah, Elon is like,
Speaker 1: we don't have enough people. We need to populate the earth.
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna have an army of slaves, I need
Speaker 1: people to keep cranking out. I mean, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: didn't mean to say that, but I'm good. I can't
Speaker 1: help myself. So seriously, though, Elon is been out there
Speaker 1: on the front line saying we're actually we have a
Speaker 1: population crisis. As he is on the wave of technology
Speaker 1: companies that are eliminating jobs.
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like we need that many people, but
Speaker 2: we will, like like just people to hold down jobs
Speaker 2: like population. This is why I'm very interested in And
Speaker 2: you end up sounding like old man yelling at the sky,
Speaker 2: and I'm not being that way. I don't want me to.
Speaker 2: But I do truly wonder how the future generations who
Speaker 2: have been using a phone since ten are really going
Speaker 2: to where's the work ethic gonna come from? And will
Speaker 2: they need it? Will technology be so good that having
Speaker 2: a work ethic doesn't matter. The tools that you are
Speaker 2: playing with will do the work for you. You just
Speaker 2: have to be the person that you know instigates the
Speaker 2: tools to do the work. That's where I do. I
Speaker 2: think it's a fair like thing without like crapping on
Speaker 2: the younger generation, like will they need to have a
Speaker 2: work ethic? This whole thing that we've been o if
Speaker 2: we need.
Speaker 1: This is an incredible philosophical question. Do people relying on
Speaker 1: AI need a work ethic?
Speaker 4: No? Right, they don't.
Speaker 2: It's very it's weird. It's weird that we're there, but
Speaker 2: we are. Yeah, well I think that.
Speaker 1: But I think that's the argument that Elon's making. You
Speaker 1: still need a work ethic, You're just going to redirect
Speaker 1: that work ethic in other ways. You would not need
Speaker 1: a work ethic for quote unquote busy work. The problem
Speaker 1: to me is I see it with AI or just
Speaker 1: hey Siri, you know, replacing learning something? Is that then
Speaker 1: you don't even understand the basic fundamentals of what you
Speaker 1: need and what you don't need. Like the old argument
Speaker 1: about why do I need this geometry? I'm never going
Speaker 1: to use this in a real world. It's because it
Speaker 1: trains your brain to function a different way. And if
Speaker 1: we're going through this process of you're no longer training
Speaker 1: your brain to function, you're just asking a question to
Speaker 1: a wall. Yeah, I feel like that's an existential problem. Sure,
Speaker 1: Like if you you don't even realize the need for
Speaker 1: what you're asking the information for because you didn't do
Speaker 1: any of the work in the first place. But if
Speaker 1: there's no going back, what is the solution. No, there's
Speaker 1: no solution. We just continue to downtry to have as
Speaker 1: much fun as you can work. This is totally idiocracy already.
Speaker 2: It's a problem for us as people because we think
Speaker 2: we created the world. Y'all got it easy though. Your
Speaker 2: kids are out almost like your kids are all you
Speaker 2: guys have almost done your responsibility.
Speaker 1: And I'll be dead in five years so I won't
Speaker 1: have to watch them suffer. You've lived your life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're good.
Speaker 2: And then for people who have had kids, I've had
Speaker 2: kids out, but you know, you know people who do,
Speaker 2: and you're like, God, I don't know what you're gonna
Speaker 2: do with that nine year old. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Most people my age look at the world is okay,
Speaker 1: how can I get out of here before I have
Speaker 1: to watch a lot of suffering. I feel like I've
Speaker 1: had a good run. I don't want to experience the
Speaker 1: suffering part. Yeah, so, okay, my kids are how old,
Speaker 1: they're probably not gonna have There's not going to be
Speaker 1: a labor force, you know.
Speaker 2: I think I'll check out in five years. Damn. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's not the brightest thing I've ever heard. But that's okay. No,
Speaker 2: it's okay. It's just dark comedy. Kept talking, No, is
Speaker 2: that comedy?
Speaker 1: Or is that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I'm not gonna live forever. I hope it
Speaker 2: was comedy. I mean, I've been wondering too. I guess
Speaker 2: carbon monoxide death? Is that a good way to go?
Speaker 4: Jesus?
Speaker 2: Is that peaceful? We might have more on Gene Hackman next.
Speaker 1: We're all right coming up next, we'll talk a little
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Speaker 1: We heard the news in the Hollywood Shuffle that Gene Hackman,
Speaker 1: his wife, and one of his dogs were found very,
Speaker 1: very sad, And this particular segment, we don't want to
Speaker 1: spend any time getting into the news story or any
Speaker 1: of the things that surround that. We just wanted to
Speaker 1: kind of tip our caps to the great Gene Hackman
Speaker 1: if we could and skin How did we ever stumble
Speaker 1: into the debate between that classic old rivalry who's a
Speaker 1: better actor, Gene Hackman or Michael Kaine? I don't remember,
Speaker 1: but I think it had to do with the idea
Speaker 1: of a starting quarterback.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, does that sound right?
Speaker 1: So I the way I the lens in which I
Speaker 1: look at a lot of these actors is I turn
Speaker 1: it back to sports, and I'm like, Okay, if Gene
Speaker 1: Hackman is your starting quarterback, you can win that movie,
Speaker 1: you can win that game.
Speaker 2: He is a great leading man. And it really comes
Speaker 2: down to I mean, look at it, like PJ.
Speaker 1: Washington the other night against the Lakers, he was forced
Speaker 1: into being the MAVs second most important player. That's a
Speaker 1: little better when he's your third or fourth most important player.
Speaker 1: Right now, you've got some serious depth. But if you
Speaker 1: have to have PJ. Washington as the lead actor, if
Speaker 1: he's your best player, then you're kind of.
Speaker 2: What the Hornets used to be.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I'm remembering this really well because I think my contention
Speaker 1: is that Gene Hackman was a system quarterback, and so
Speaker 1: if you put him in a system like Hoosiers, where
Speaker 1: you know, it's not contingent on being about the leading man,
Speaker 1: it's about the story. Because you know, one of the
Speaker 1: things that Gene Hackman was known for is that he
Speaker 1: was He did a really amazing job of playing the
Speaker 1: quote unquote everyman. And when he really got on people's
Speaker 1: radars was with Bonnie and Clyde, and he was just
Speaker 1: sort of all right, this is just kind of a
Speaker 1: middle American. I mean, here's Warren Batty over here looking
Speaker 1: like a matinee superstar sex machine. But Gene Hackman was like, man,
Speaker 1: this guy's an amazing actor. He's the everyman. He's all
Speaker 1: of us. But depending on the season, if you have
Speaker 1: the right system and a really good defense, he could
Speaker 1: quarterback you to a super Bowl. Right, And you think
Speaker 1: that Michael Kaine is a better system quarterback than Gene Hackman, No,
Speaker 1: I think they're I think Michael Kaine's the equivalent to
Speaker 1: Jama Hackman. They're the equivalent, Well, they're the same base.
Speaker 1: And that became a second that became a secondary debate
Speaker 1: because I would maintain that Gene Hackman is a far
Speaker 1: superior actor to the great Michael Kine. But then you
Speaker 1: get into a situation where you're being forced to take
Speaker 1: the position that tears down someone who's awesome. I don't
Speaker 1: want to tear down Michael Kaine. I think Michael Kaine's great,
Speaker 1: but I do want to talk about some of the
Speaker 1: white you tearing down Michael Kaine. It's Gene Hackman's death.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about a lot of these great movies.
Speaker 1: Need to see Blame It on Rio again. Oh God,
Speaker 1: such a good film with Joseph Mologna. Okay, so ask
Speaker 1: a quick Michael Kaine questions, Yes, exciting. Is it bad
Speaker 1: that all I know him from? Is he one of
Speaker 1: the Alfred's?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in the Batman movie. Okay, no, not
Speaker 2: that's not bad at all. But you're young.
Speaker 1: Gene Hackman died at held ninety five, and he hasn't
Speaker 1: His last movie was O four, Okay, and so my Cocaine,
Speaker 1: I think is ninety one or ninety three?
Speaker 2: Is he not?
Speaker 4: Old?
Speaker 1: Kaid's ninety one? Okay, Okay, so he's ninety one, So no,
Speaker 1: it's not you're a young man. That's not a common
Speaker 1: But this is an older actor in Mine and Skins
Speaker 1: Lives and we're older dudes. But if you wanted to
Speaker 1: see a good Michael Caine movie to really get the
Speaker 1: full scale of the greatness of Michael Kine, I would
Speaker 1: recommend Dirty Rotten Scoundrel Steve Martin.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, was he in gold Member? That's great?
Speaker 1: What was the movie he was in where he was
Speaker 1: a psychiatrist and he's dressed to kill, dressed to kill badass?
Speaker 2: That's a Brian de Palmer. Oh, that was a good movie.
Speaker 2: Okayeteen eighty he was.
Speaker 1: He was in the original Get Carter that Sylvester Stallone remade.
Speaker 1: He was in the nineteen sixty nine British version or
Speaker 1: something like that. So if you had to guess which
Speaker 1: actor was in has been in more movies, Gene Hackman
Speaker 1: or Michael Kaine, I would say Gene Hackman because he's American.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I would say Gen Hackman because he's four
Speaker 2: years older when he died than Michael Kannero's ninety one.
Speaker 4: I'm going Gene Hackman just because I know more movies
Speaker 4: besides just Alfred.
Speaker 2: Like Kat said, I'm a pivot. I'm gonna say Michael
Speaker 2: Kain because, as I told you, Gene Hackman's last movie
Speaker 2: was two thousand and four Welcome to News Sport. So
Speaker 2: Gene Hackman.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because when I googled this, they didn't give
Speaker 1: me an exact number. They said Gene Hackman was in
Speaker 1: about eighty movies, and then so I looked it up
Speaker 1: for Michael Kaine, they said he was in about one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty films.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, however, we volume shooter.
Speaker 1: You know, we can look at their report cards in
Speaker 1: this now before we get to their comparative report cards.
Speaker 1: I do want to mention some of the greatest movies,
Speaker 1: and it would love to get anyone's thoughts. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure Skin and I are far more familiar with these movies.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna throw some of my favorites out. Royal
Speaker 1: ten and Bombs. Yeah, she's dating Wes Anderson Acolyte, so
Speaker 1: I would think that she's very familiar with that.
Speaker 4: I love that movie great.
Speaker 2: Oh, good. Have you ever you want to talk some jive.
Speaker 2: Let's talk some jive.
Speaker 1: Coltrane, He goes, and he hasn't call me Coltrane. No,
Speaker 1: but but if I did, yes, Yeah, so that's great.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 2: He was perfect in that role.
Speaker 1: I man, I kind of want to see if Kati
Speaker 1: has the stamina to make it through the conversation.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Uh. There are so many other films of his that
Speaker 1: I love. Uh, there's gonna be some of these you
Speaker 1: haven't seen, because I see every terrible movie.
Speaker 2: Enemy of the State with Will Smith. I never saw that.
Speaker 1: I remember that being promoted heavily in the late nineties.
Speaker 1: Heist with Sam Rockwall. Never saw Rockwell. I love Sam Rockwell,
Speaker 1: but I never saw that the firm. I did see
Speaker 1: that a long time. Unfortunately, Wilfred Brimley was the bad
Speaker 1: guy in that, which isn't believable. But God, Gene Hagman
Speaker 1: was awesome that. Of course Hoosiers, he was such a
Speaker 1: believable basketball coach. He was great in Hoosier's Fantastic. Probably
Speaker 1: that in Mississippi Burning were probably the roles he's most
Speaker 1: known for.
Speaker 2: I would think Get.
Speaker 1: Shorty, which was a comedy. It's really really good. He's great,
Speaker 1: he's great and everything he's in. Unforgiven was his one
Speaker 1: of his westerns. He was great in that, directed by
Speaker 1: Clint Eastwood, No Way Out. I love SNR film. I
Speaker 1: love him in No Way Out. He plays a corrupt
Speaker 1: senator and he's really really good in that. He was
Speaker 1: great as Lex Luthor and Superman badass in that.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: I went back and watched this one recently. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, but the French Connection, that movie's badass. It's
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: See, he gets connected addicted to heroin. They forced him
Speaker 1: to get addicted to heroin or something, and then he
Speaker 1: has to snap out of it and still solve all
Speaker 1: the crime. So he was on a run. Basically. It
Speaker 1: started with Bonnie and Clyde. But when he did The
Speaker 1: French Connection, which was a Landmark film, I mean it
Speaker 1: was a Landmark film. You want to talk about the
Speaker 1: whole anti hero dirty cop thing, I mean it goes
Speaker 1: back to the French Connection.
Speaker 2: And then he did which was a William Friedkin movie.
Speaker 1: And then he did The Conversation, which was as a
Speaker 1: Coppola movie that he did after the success of the Godfathers,
Speaker 1: and that movie is badass, and it really the whole
Speaker 1: movie centers around Hackman's performance and how he starts going crazy,
Speaker 1: is he gets more and more intertwined in the surveillance life,
Speaker 1: like that's a he's setting the stage in the early
Speaker 1: seventies for the kind of work he's gonna do forever.
Speaker 2: He was also in the Poseidon adventure.
Speaker 1: You know, the ship, the big ocean liner gets turned
Speaker 1: upside down and one brave hero has to, you know,
Speaker 1: guide everyone to safety.
Speaker 2: Was he the hero? He's that guy, He's the Gene Heckman,
Speaker 2: He's that guy.
Speaker 1: And then you know, see, I maintain that Michael Kaine
Speaker 1: is one of the greatest actors of all time.
Speaker 2: But he's one of the greatest.
Speaker 1: It's like saying he's Scottie Pippen to me, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's ever gonna be Michael Jordan. And in some cases,
Speaker 1: Gene Hackman could morph into being Michael Jordan for your
Speaker 1: squad and if it was Hoosiers, so the two yeah,
Speaker 1: like so the obviously, when you start talking about who's
Speaker 1: the greatest actor of all time, a lot of people
Speaker 1: think it's Denzel Washington. And if you take Crimson Tide
Speaker 1: now You've got Denzel and Gene Hackman squaring off, and
Speaker 1: that is a badass movie. He's generally, I think this
Speaker 1: is what the imvidence of the conversation was. I think
Speaker 1: he's a character actor for the most part. There's very
Speaker 1: few films where he was the leading man in it, right,
Speaker 1: but he's always a prominent part of it. Like, for example,
Speaker 1: you just mentioned that Denzel was the one A in
Speaker 1: that No Way Out. Kevin Costner was the one A
Speaker 1: in that. Actually during the French Connection, Scheider was your
Speaker 1: one A in that right Now, he was the lead
Speaker 1: in the Conversation for example. But he was generally more
Speaker 1: of a character actor than a lead dog. I'd say
Speaker 1: he's not really a character actor, but he's also not
Speaker 1: really a lead dog. He's more of a but to
Speaker 1: me build movies around him, you could there was roles
Speaker 1: that he was great for a movie, good enough to
Speaker 1: take you to a super Bowl, but he could in
Speaker 1: the right place. Michael Kaine is like was even Michael
Speaker 1: Kaine was definitely a character actor. Like not he's not
Speaker 1: even on Gene Hackman's quite on his level, but he's close,
Speaker 1: but he's not quite there. But what we're gonna say, well,
Speaker 1: I feel like we're kind of talking about these guys
Speaker 1: like their Trent Dilfer or Carry Collins or something.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're more in the Dak Kirk Cousins
Speaker 2: realm Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, maybe so maybe so maybe that's where
Speaker 1: this conference.
Speaker 2: I think Hackman is Dak.
Speaker 1: I think he's Dackman, and I think I think I'm
Speaker 1: blanking on the other dude, Michael, Yeah, Michael Caine is.
Speaker 2: Who do you think is that like Dak? I mean
Speaker 2: maybe Gene Hackman's romo.
Speaker 4: And Dak is for an older crowd.
Speaker 1: Dak is Shane Falco in the replacement. I think I
Speaker 1: think gen Gene Hackman is Danny White. Okay, I can't
Speaker 1: expect that he got you do some uh he got
Speaker 1: you to some conference championship games, but he was also
Speaker 1: the punter and no one ever expected you to get
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl with Okay, So let's just look
Speaker 1: at it like this. In about eighty films, this is
Speaker 1: Gene Hackman's report card compared to in about one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty films, Michael Kaine's report card Academy Awards, and
Speaker 1: he guesses on what the score is nominations or wins wins.
Speaker 1: I think Gene Hackman won for Mississippi Burning.
Speaker 2: I believe. What do you think the score is there
Speaker 2: between those two ecturs.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, one to nothing. Gene it's two to two.
Speaker 1: Each of them has two Academy Awards. Okay, well are
Speaker 1: they both for Supporting Actor.
Speaker 2: I don't have all that inforcation. Okay, we'll get back
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: On that Golden Globes, the score is four to three
Speaker 1: Michael Kaine, because globes are more global.
Speaker 2: Gene Hackman has four and Michael Kaine has three.
Speaker 1: Okay, British Academy Film Awards Michael Kaine, Gene Hackman has two,
Speaker 1: Michael Kain has won even the Brits, and then in
Speaker 1: Screen Actors Guild Awards they each have one. And so
Speaker 1: basically Michael Kaine, at the age of ninety one now
Speaker 1: has a few years to go get some films, and
Speaker 1: if he could win one British academ Me Film Award
Speaker 1: in one Golden Globe, he will tie the great Gene Hackman,
Speaker 1: and I think he will knock that out this year.
Speaker 1: Rest in peace, Gene Hackman. I'll never forget the time
Speaker 1: that Kat had a chance to be a presenter at
Speaker 1: the SAG Awards. He looked the entire audience dead in
Speaker 1: the eye. He stood up on that podium and he said,
Speaker 1: Jane's oscar was for the French Connection.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: He said that confirming a thought from an earlier time.
Speaker 1: Was it best supporting actor.
Speaker 2: Supporting actor was unforgiven. He was best actor French Connection.
Speaker 2: That's what I told, in your face, skin in my face.
Speaker 2: Christina's next here on the eagle. Here you going, well,
Speaker 2: I want to get my sack back. Dude that I
Speaker 2: had to take a poop.