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Speaker 3: Sports Talk seven ninety. I got a little distracted because
Speaker 3: I do find myself questioning my ability to be objective
Speaker 3: and fair. I've kind of been in this spot for
Speaker 3: the last, you know, a couple months, and it's been
Speaker 3: discussed right like Louisville football. I can't tell you that
Speaker 3: I believe that they're being disrespected. I can't tell you
Speaker 3: that they're going to shock the world and prove a
Speaker 3: bunch of you know, haters wrong, because I'm not really
Speaker 3: sure they have many haters. Them being right outside the
Speaker 3: top twenty five makes total sense, especially considering, you know,
Speaker 3: anytime you really depend on the transfer portal in a
Speaker 3: major way, like Jeff Brohm has done the last two years.
Speaker 2: You really never know. Right. Last year worked out well.
Speaker 3: They brought in a good mix of transfers that really
Speaker 3: helped them have a great first season of the brom Era.
Speaker 3: No reason to think that can't happen this year. But again,
Speaker 3: you never know. They also started the season nine to
Speaker 3: one and then lost three straight games, and these were
Speaker 3: games where they were actually supposed to win.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't remember.
Speaker 3: I could just be completely wrong here, but weren't they
Speaker 3: favored against Florida State given the circumstances.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong with that because Florida State, even without
Speaker 3: Jordan Travis like, they were still a team.
Speaker 2: That everybody viewed to be a lot better than Louisville
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: But I know they were favorite against USC and they
Speaker 3: were certainly favorite against Kentucky and they lost. So you know,
Speaker 3: had they won one of those three, maybe they'd be
Speaker 3: in the top twenty five. So again I find myself
Speaker 3: having these urges like, let me give you the latest example.
Speaker 3: There's an email that came in from betonline dot ag
Speaker 3: that gives us the odds for the passing leaders in
Speaker 3: each Power four conference and there are eight quarterbacks listed
Speaker 3: ahead of Tyler Shuck as far as the best odds
Speaker 3: to lead the ACC in passing yards, And I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: that's well, they got against my guy, Tyler Shuck. I've
Speaker 3: never watched Tyler Shuck play. I have no problem telling you
Speaker 3: guys that, but you know, I'm feeling like he's going
Speaker 3: to be way better than that, And it's like, what
Speaker 3: am I basing that off of? Just me being a
Speaker 3: fandel Again, I think he does have a really good arm,
Speaker 3: and I think if he's healthy, he has shown that
Speaker 3: he's a guy that can be more.
Speaker 2: Than just a serviceable quarterback. He's a guy you can
Speaker 2: win with.
Speaker 3: And they're not going to use him the way that
Speaker 3: the other coaches used him at Texas Tech in Oregon.
Speaker 3: So I have good reason to feel good about Tyler Shuck,
Speaker 3: but like again, putting him at fourteen to one odds
Speaker 3: to lead the ACC in passing yards with cam Ward
Speaker 3: at the top, Haines King at Georgia Tech, Kate Club,
Speaker 3: Nick Clemson, Grayson McCallen, C State, Preston Stone, SMU dj
Speaker 3: Ugala Leiley.
Speaker 2: Florida State.
Speaker 3: Although he's always stunk like, why does he still continue
Speaker 3: to get like benefit of that. Dj Ugla Leley's been
Speaker 3: in the acc before and he was lousy Malik Murphy
Speaker 3: at Duke like those are all the guys ahead of him,
Speaker 3: and like it's not blasphemy, it's not you know, criminal
Speaker 3: to have shuck where they have him.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think more than anything, as I give myself sort
Speaker 3: of a self psychological diagnosis here, I think I'm just
Speaker 3: like I got the bron fever.
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
Speaker 3: You know, I've always tried to be and I say
Speaker 3: this being serious. I know at times, I you know,
Speaker 3: can be sarcastic, like I'm a Louisville fan one thousand percent.
Speaker 3: Have never shied away from that. In fact, sometimes I'll
Speaker 3: be honest, right, I'm a Louisville fan, but I'll tell
Speaker 3: you what I think things are bad.
Speaker 2: I'll say it.
Speaker 3: And that led to people thinking, oh, no, he's you
Speaker 3: guys heard the lineup on seven ninety guys a UK fan.
Speaker 3: They just they just told him not like a Louisville fan,
Speaker 3: so they can have, you know, a little bit of
Speaker 3: both fan bases. I saw him at lunch with Matt
Speaker 3: Jones one day, he's in no way he's a Louisville fan.
Speaker 3: So like you know, I try to be really objective
Speaker 3: and just tell you like it is and also no
Speaker 3: deep down like I do have an allegiance as a fan,
Speaker 3: like I'm a Louisville fan. I want to see him
Speaker 3: do well. I want to see Kentucky lose every game.
Speaker 3: But I can also at least I try to be
Speaker 3: objective about both sides. That I'll take my digs when
Speaker 3: I can get them in about Kentucky because you know
Speaker 3: it's part of the rivalry. But I'll be honest at
Speaker 3: least I try to be he's best I can. And
Speaker 3: now is being closer to football season, I kind of
Speaker 3: I find myself wondering.
Speaker 2: Like are you are you? Are you turning into the
Speaker 2: ultimate honk here? Like are you are you being? Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you a fanboy? Which what's wrong with being a fanboy?
Speaker 4: I mean there is a very high negative stigmatism, I
Speaker 4: guess with being a fan boy.
Speaker 3: I think it's just what it sounds like. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's just so demeaning, right.
Speaker 4: Yes, it sounds like you have, you know, all of
Speaker 4: your eggs in one basket. When it comes to just
Speaker 4: like you know, you can do no wrong with the
Speaker 4: team that you like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And when I think of fanboy, I think of
Speaker 3: someone honestly, well, I don't know, I don't mind. I
Speaker 3: was going to go down a path we don't need
Speaker 3: to go down. When I think a fanboy, I think
Speaker 3: of someone who is unwilling to criticize their team, their
Speaker 3: coach at any point, and they always play the disrespect
Speaker 3: card and always act as if there's a conspiracy to
Speaker 3: you know, hurt their program in some way or discredit
Speaker 3: their program. And when their team loses, you know, it
Speaker 3: was about the rest like that. When I when I
Speaker 3: think of what a fan boy is, that's what I
Speaker 3: think of. And there's no mirror in here. But am
Speaker 3: I looking at Do I need to look at one?
Speaker 4: Because I mean I don't feel like and I know
Speaker 4: that there hasn't been a lot for you know, and
Speaker 4: especially when you when it comes to Louisville basketball, for
Speaker 4: you to be truly upset about other than I mean,
Speaker 4: you could be upset about what with the team, but
Speaker 4: like in terms of like a controversial play call a
Speaker 4: reason to be upset about a loss, I don't think
Speaker 4: I've seen that side of Nick calls.
Speaker 2: You mean football, No, you said basketball.
Speaker 4: Well, I was referring to just in general, the fan
Speaker 4: boyinous of your you tube in general.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like last year, I think I was. I
Speaker 2: guess I was geeked up because it was.
Speaker 3: Just a fun ride at the first year, right and
Speaker 3: they were already had a schedule. I mean again, I
Speaker 3: felt uncomfortable knowing they were in the midst midway through
Speaker 3: of a very special season, and I wasn't thinking about
Speaker 3: this is going to be a special year. We're going
Speaker 3: to remember forever. They might make the playoff, Like I
Speaker 3: was just thinking like, hell, yeah, this is awesome. Man,
Speaker 3: there's life back in the foot ball fan base. Satterfield
Speaker 3: wasn't an awful coach, but I think it was pretty
Speaker 3: clear we we capped out with him and it was
Speaker 3: only going to get more difficult to win with him.
Speaker 3: So now you know, if they don't meet expectation, like
Speaker 3: we're gonna.
Speaker 2: Have to be critical.
Speaker 3: And one thing I do like about like you know,
Speaker 3: because I've had there's been coaches that have been here.
Speaker 3: Not to say that I was ever on their minds,
Speaker 3: but like you know, they didn't like me because I
Speaker 3: was honest, maybe among other things, I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 3: they don't like me because of other things. I don't know,
Speaker 3: But you know, like with Jeff brom if people if
Speaker 3: Louisville stunk this year and they were like six and six,
Speaker 3: clearly way below expectation, that would be it would be
Speaker 3: it'd be a bad sign. That would be concerning, right.
Speaker 3: I guess it's possible. But like if anybody was out
Speaker 3: there trying to act like things weren't bad and they
Speaker 3: had a platform like this one, Jeff Brown wouldn't respect
Speaker 3: them because you know, he would know that that's just
Speaker 3: people kissing his ass.
Speaker 2: So I do.
Speaker 3: I do like the fact that both coaches, I think
Speaker 3: Pat Kelsey, who I don't know as well as Jeff,
Speaker 3: but you know, from what I can gather, I think
Speaker 3: they are very excited about the you know, Jeff's a
Speaker 3: little different, he's one of us, but I think they
Speaker 3: love that. Fans do always have high expectations, right, and
Speaker 3: you don't have coaches they, let's be honest, Centerfield would
Speaker 3: act as if fans we were over the top and
Speaker 3: out of line for expecting more than what he gave us.
Speaker 3: Like it sounds mean, but like he had a lot
Speaker 3: of loser in him, and like that's not how these
Speaker 3: coaches are wired. So like, even when the criticism is there,
Speaker 3: I think these guys are gonna be so bothered by it,
Speaker 3: so driven to win to where they're not gonna listen
Speaker 3: to it. They're gonna and they're gonna know that it's
Speaker 3: out there, and they're gonna probably think that it's expected, right, Like,
Speaker 3: you don't want somebody that's going out of their way
Speaker 3: to create negativity. And that's what people accuse me of
Speaker 3: doing with Kenny Payne. No, that guy did it all himself.
Speaker 3: Like you think I had anything to do with the
Speaker 3: many disasters from a pr standpoint that Louis of basketball
Speaker 3: went through during that era. I know by the way
Speaker 3: they lost a lot, they never won. So this year
Speaker 3: is gonna be different with Jeff because the expectations are there,
Speaker 3: like it or not. And what I do know is
Speaker 3: that he likes it. He wouldn't want I mean, he
Speaker 3: can't control it, right, you can't control what expectations are
Speaker 3: nationally or even from your own fan base. But like
Speaker 3: if fans were like, man, I just hope we get
Speaker 3: to a Bowl game this year, Like if Jeff heard
Speaker 3: somebody say that he might punch him in the mouth.
Speaker 3: Probably not, because you know he wouldn't do that. That'd
Speaker 3: be a no no. But you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I just need football season to start because I'm
Speaker 3: getting more and more like, you know, I'm questioning myself, like, hey,
Speaker 3: why am I feeling so Why am I being so
Speaker 3: thin skinned to people not putting more love on Louisville's name.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing, they're not. Like it'd be different
Speaker 3: if somebody said they're going to be a five and seventeam.
Speaker 3: In fact, the AP voters put Louisville at twenty six. Right,
Speaker 3: they're the first team outside of the top twenty five,
Speaker 3: which means if they take care of business, right, if
Speaker 3: they end up getting passed, I say getting passed, I
Speaker 3: mean they they should curb stomp Austin p and Jacksonville State.
Speaker 3: And when they do that, because of just losses that
Speaker 3: are gonna happen within the top twenty five, by the
Speaker 3: time they get to week three, their first against a
Speaker 3: conference opponent, they'll be ranked. And once again we're looking
Speaker 3: at that Notre Dame game. You start, you should start
Speaker 3: three and zero. Notre Dame should also start three. And
Speaker 3: although I think they have Texas A and M beforehand,
Speaker 3: and that one probably won't be it won't be built
Speaker 3: up like last year. But still that'll be a big
Speaker 3: opportunity to go get a big win in South Bend
Speaker 3: and then from there. Sim used this team that people
Speaker 3: think is going to be, you know, super competitive right
Speaker 3: away in the ACC. So you know, I think Louisville
Speaker 3: being at twenty sixth is probably right on track with
Speaker 3: what a lot of people expected objectively, because again, despite
Speaker 3: the special season, they didn't win their last three games,
Speaker 3: and they were expected to win at least two of those.
Speaker 3: And again I thought, because of the Florida state situation
Speaker 3: with and look, let's be real, they could have won
Speaker 3: that game.
Speaker 2: I mean, that was It.
Speaker 3: Was one of those games where you reminded you had
Speaker 3: you had to remind yourself, Oh yeah, we got a
Speaker 3: quarterback that you know, in the worst out there, but man,
Speaker 3: he doesn't come through when we need him at times.
Speaker 3: And that's that's Jack Plumber, which, by the way, I
Speaker 3: didn't watch a second of his preseason game for the
Speaker 3: Panthers on Thursday, but I just did a quick search
Speaker 3: to see, like, HM, wonder what people are talking about
Speaker 3: with Jack Plumber. I know he got some reps for
Speaker 3: the Panthers in their first preseason game. Good god, I mean,
Speaker 3: Panthers fans were ruthless. He must not have played well.
Speaker 3: I haven't even looked at the stats. Maybe we should
Speaker 3: pull it up here to see what Jack Plumber did
Speaker 3: in his first game.
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: Like he's clearly not a great quarterback. He does not
Speaker 3: have a future in the NFL, I don't think. But
Speaker 3: for some reason, I feel like any other quarterback could
Speaker 3: have a similar bad throw, bad play, bonehead move, and Plumber,
Speaker 3: for some reason, just is a bigger target for people.
Speaker 3: They just unload on him. See what he did here
Speaker 3: now now I'm curious to see what he did.
Speaker 2: I see it right now.
Speaker 4: It's not as bad as you'd expect based on you
Speaker 4: saying the backlash. But he threw it twenty one times,
Speaker 4: he complete little seven times, no interceptions, but no touchdowns either,
Speaker 4: only eighty six yards.
Speaker 3: And that's what's crazy is he was an All acc
Speaker 3: guy last year, like third team I think it was,
Speaker 3: and his numbers at the end of every game you'd
Speaker 3: look down and they weren't bad. In fact, sometimes they
Speaker 3: were pretty good, but you'd watch them and you'd know, like, hey,
Speaker 3: that's a little misleading. So anyways, no more Jack Plalmer.
Speaker 3: Now we got Tyler Shuck and I think he's going
Speaker 3: to have a special season. All right, this is some
Speaker 3: sound I wanted to play for you guys earlier, but
Speaker 3: I didn't get around to it just yet. You want
Speaker 3: to hear from the man himself, mister Jeff Brohms. So
Speaker 3: he talked after practice on Saturday, which was a scrimmage.
Speaker 3: They had their first legitimate scrimmage of fall camp. They
Speaker 3: do a handful of these. I'm pretty sure every program
Speaker 3: in the country does this to where they try as
Speaker 3: best they can to replicate a real game situation in camp.
Speaker 2: They bring in refs. I'm not sure how.
Speaker 3: I'm sure different I'm sure different programs keep scoring differently,
Speaker 3: or maybe they don't keep score. But this is where,
Speaker 3: until you get to a game, you get a chance
Speaker 3: as a player to actually, okay, under the lights, real
Speaker 3: game situation again, as close as you can get. This
Speaker 3: is where you have a chance to show what you
Speaker 3: can do. And knowing what I know about Jeff, I
Speaker 3: feel like he's somebody that you know what you see
Speaker 3: is what you get. Like, I don't think he's being
Speaker 3: I don't think he's being super strategic here to try
Speaker 3: to motivate his guys.
Speaker 2: I think he is knowing.
Speaker 3: I think he's being honest, and I think he probably
Speaker 3: knows that by saying this, he is going to motivate him.
Speaker 3: But you know, he says he needs more playmakers out there.
Speaker 5: You know, even new guys of the teams, they've emerged
Speaker 5: in fall camp and they did it today. So that
Speaker 5: was good guys who maybe needed a chance in a
Speaker 5: scrimmage setting to step out and newly emerged did not happen.
Speaker 5: So that is what we've got to work through. So
Speaker 5: the guys that are new here, they're pretty much all
Speaker 5: up to speed for the most part. That might be
Speaker 5: a couple of mental bus that we got to make
Speaker 5: sure we don't have happened again. But you know, the
Speaker 5: ones that have stood out in fall camp stood out today,
Speaker 5: and I just think we need more guys. It's not
Speaker 5: enough yet right now.
Speaker 3: So I mean, where I hear that, because I've listened
Speaker 3: to that a few different times so far. Today when
Speaker 3: I was cutting it up, I mean, I think that's
Speaker 3: probably just a very direct and honest answer about what
Speaker 3: he thinks of his team after one scrimmage. He's not
Speaker 3: being dramatic, he's not you know, calling anybody out specifically.
Speaker 3: He's actually acknowledging that the guys who have stepped up
Speaker 3: so far in camp stepped up once again in the scrimmage.
Speaker 2: But he's wanting to see more. And here's here's the
Speaker 2: gist of what I can gather.
Speaker 3: And again, I'm not the closest as far as being
Speaker 3: connected to what's going on in practices that aren't open
Speaker 3: to the public or that kind of thing, but it
Speaker 3: sounds as if they feel like they have really good
Speaker 3: depth on the defensive line, they feel like they have
Speaker 3: good depth in the secondary, mostly due to the transfers,
Speaker 3: and then you know what you have with certain guys
Speaker 3: back defensively, it sounds like in that scrimmage there were
Speaker 3: a few plays that really and this is where it's
Speaker 3: kind of tricky for me, because there were a couple
Speaker 3: of plays in that scrimmage apparently that the defense, you know,
Speaker 3: it was a letdown. They had a big play somebody,
Speaker 3: you know in the run game. I don't know which
Speaker 3: running back it was, broke free, you know, just a
Speaker 3: just a big chunk play that can really just be
Speaker 3: a momentum swinger and kill you. And the defense gave
Speaker 3: up those last year towards the end, the defense from
Speaker 3: being so reliable and just really the strength of this
Speaker 3: team to where once she got towards the end of
Speaker 3: the season, that just wasn't the case as much. I
Speaker 3: think these guys got gassed a little bit and they
Speaker 3: started playing better teams, let's be honest.
Speaker 2: So you know, I.
Speaker 3: Think they want to limit those defensive you know, big
Speaker 3: you know, those defensive breakdowns. And Brom actually talked a
Speaker 3: little bit more in that Q and A there about
Speaker 3: you know, could sometimes it could be scheme, which when
Speaker 3: he says that, you guys realize he's calling on his
Speaker 3: own coaches, right, Like he's done that before. Like sometimes
Speaker 3: questioning when there was a defensive letdown, a defensive breakdown,
Speaker 3: you know, he mentions maybe they were in the wrong scheme,
Speaker 3: which I mean I remember Jeff brob directly. I think
Speaker 3: of halftime of the Georgia Tech game in the opener,
Speaker 3: his first game as the head coach, when they looked
Speaker 3: like they were going to get beat bad, you know,
Speaker 3: but halftime he was doing an sideline interview on his
Speaker 3: way to the locker room and basically just said, like,
Speaker 3: you can't. You know, you can't stay in the same
Speaker 3: thing and not expect a good team to figure out.
Speaker 2: How to counter it.
Speaker 3: And you know, I think he really likes his defensive coordinator,
Speaker 3: Run English and Run English. I mean, for the most
Speaker 3: part last year did a damn good job. I mean
Speaker 3: it didn't end well, but I mean, for the most part,
Speaker 3: the defense was really good. But I think from a
Speaker 3: personnel standpoint this year like they have good personnel defensively
Speaker 3: to where I feel like if the results aren't there,
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of criticism towards Run English.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that that will be the case,
Speaker 3: because I have no reason to think that they won't
Speaker 3: be good. They have more depth than they did a
Speaker 3: year ago. They've got guys healthy. I mean your trio
Speaker 3: of Ashton Jilotti, Quincy Riley and MJ. Griffin who's now healthy.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a lot of talent right there. Not
Speaker 3: to mention stan Clon Clark, who I think is going
Speaker 3: to really emerge as a as one of the better
Speaker 3: players in the ACC defensively, and then Ramon per Year,
Speaker 3: who I want to talk about a little bit later,
Speaker 3: rarely gets a whole lot of love because he's a
Speaker 3: former walk on, but he's a guy that has been
Speaker 3: valuable on the defensive line for quite some time. Every
Speaker 3: year there's a there's a defensive lineman that come in
Speaker 3: the portal that you just expect to beat him because
Speaker 3: Ramon per Year was a walk on, and you know,
Speaker 3: he was just a guy we had to use because
Speaker 3: we didn't have anybody else. And that's not the case
Speaker 3: that all this guy can play, so you know, defensively
Speaker 3: they should be good. So back to the big chunk
Speaker 3: plays that broke free in that scrimmage. If it was
Speaker 3: a running I keep hearing that there's so much concern
Speaker 3: about the running game because there hasn't apparently been somebody
Speaker 3: that has really emerged. You have Cheney from Miami, who
Speaker 3: you know, people act like he's slow as molasses. And
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's not a guy that's known to turn
Speaker 3: on the jets and just beat guys in a race,
Speaker 3: but you know, people like handing the ball off to
Speaker 3: him is like handing it off to a bowling ball
Speaker 3: or something. I mean, again, he's not one that's just
Speaker 3: going to break free in any given moment. But I
Speaker 3: feel like he's showed enough at Miami to where you
Speaker 3: know he might break free for a twenty five yarder
Speaker 3: when you get close to the red zone for a touchdown.
Speaker 3: And then obviously, Maurice Turner's been around a while, and
Speaker 3: I think there's been the expectation that if he was well.
Speaker 3: I think I think a lot of people thought if
Speaker 3: he was ever going to turn it on and be
Speaker 3: the guy for you, then he would have already done it.
Speaker 3: And I understand why people have that mindset, But I've
Speaker 3: said it for weeks and I'll say it again. I
Speaker 3: think they have enough in the running game to where
Speaker 3: if in fact, you're utilizing the tight end position way
Speaker 3: more than you were a year ago, your quarterback is
Speaker 3: clean in the pocket and he can establish some good
Speaker 3: chemistry with his receivers.
Speaker 2: Hope Chris Bell has a breakout year.
Speaker 3: I think Colin Lacy it sounds like he's getting more
Speaker 3: and more acclimated with Tyler Shuck. And then obviously Jacorey
Speaker 3: Brooks from Alabama. If your offense is different this year,
Speaker 3: because again those things your quarterbacks a little more sharp
Speaker 3: you can trust him to go to be more vertical
Speaker 3: and you're utilizing the tight ends.
Speaker 2: If all that works.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying they got to go out and
Speaker 3: those units specifically got to be the key to you
Speaker 3: putting up thirty five and a half, No, but if
Speaker 3: you've got that balance, I think your running game is
Speaker 3: gonna be fine.
Speaker 2: Now, maybe you don't have.
Speaker 3: A Jordan, but you are. Jordan was a really, really
Speaker 3: special player. Although it sounds, in fact Jeff Brom said it,
Speaker 3: said it word for word that Isaac Brown the true
Speaker 3: freshman running back from Miami, that you know he's got
Speaker 3: a little Jair Jordan in which, hey, that's that's that's
Speaker 3: a that's high praise. So you know, maybe I'll be
Speaker 3: proven wrong, but I do believe that from a personnel standpoint,
Speaker 3: Like I think offensively, you know, you've got you've got
Speaker 3: the pieces to be good, and you've got depth in
Speaker 3: areas you haven't had depth in in a long time.
Speaker 3: When's the last time you heard a coach around here
Speaker 3: talk about how much they like their depth in the interior.
Speaker 3: I mean some of it is from the portal, so
Speaker 3: you really, you know, have to wait and see how
Speaker 3: much of that translates, but overall, I mean again, here
Speaker 3: we go again. This is where this is where I'm
Speaker 3: starting to get insecure about Fanboy, because I think Louis
Speaker 3: has got a chance to be pretty damn good. I
Speaker 3: really do. All right, what we'll do on the other side,
Speaker 3: we'll let you hear from Mark Stoops. We heard from
Speaker 3: Jeff brom Let's hear from Mark Stoops. He talked about
Speaker 3: the vacated twenty two one season, and it wasn't something
Speaker 3: you know, he didn't. I mean, in fact, I think
Speaker 3: he probably addressed it later than he should have, but
Speaker 3: probably addressed it perfectly as far as there's so much
Speaker 3: you can say after that happens. But we'll get to that,
Speaker 3: because I actually think you're gonna start to see Kentucky
Speaker 3: as we get closer to the season because of how
Speaker 3: loaded the SEC always is and how challenging their schedule is.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna hear anybody predicting them to be in
Speaker 3: the playoff. But I do think Kentucky's got a chance
Speaker 3: to be better than I think people realize. But will
Speaker 3: that result in wins? That's where it gets tough, all right,
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Speaker 3: All right, So this tex says Nick, I, And by
Speaker 3: the way, the text line is five O two sixty
Speaker 3: five three zero seven ninety. It's the L and N
Speaker 3: Federal Credit Union text line. This text says Nick. I'm
Speaker 3: a lot older than you, but you said something earlier
Speaker 3: that I rarely hear anybody around your age mentioned. Louisville
Speaker 3: Athletics has always been built on being the underdog, back
Speaker 3: against the wall, nobody giving us any credit. I don't
Speaker 3: know why we don't embrace that every year. You're right,
Speaker 3: I mean, I think you know that there's some truth
Speaker 3: to that, especially in football, because of where Louisville football
Speaker 3: once was. I mean, historically speaking, louis football is a
Speaker 3: baby compared to other programs that you now compete with
Speaker 3: in your own league that have history and tradition that
Speaker 3: is just much different than yours. We got thrown in
Speaker 3: the microwave, and you know, I'm fortunate for that, right
Speaker 3: Like Louisville football.
Speaker 2: Let's be real.
Speaker 3: I mean, they had a program for you know, a
Speaker 3: long time, and fans were into it and supportive of it.
Speaker 3: But basketball had won a couple of national championships before
Speaker 3: Louisville football really had made any kind of an imprint,
Speaker 3: any kind of an imprint nationally. So sure enough, Howard
Speaker 3: Snellenberger comes around. Obviously didn't have a winning record when
Speaker 3: it was all said and done, but really started talking
Speaker 3: about Louisll football haw having a legitimate program.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if we'll ever accomplish what Howard Snellenberger
Speaker 3: discussed as far as you know, winning a national championship,
Speaker 3: but hey, he talked about it enough, people were starting.
Speaker 2: To dream big.
Speaker 3: And then you know he moves on, obviously, and things
Speaker 3: weren't good at that point. But Tom Jurich, you know,
Speaker 3: he really I means a lot Tom jurch did here
Speaker 3: that changed everything about Louisville athletics. But clearly making football
Speaker 3: such a priority and investing in it, and you know,
Speaker 3: getting the stadium put together or you weren't playing on
Speaker 3: a baseball stadium anymore. Within gosh, I mean it really,
Speaker 3: it sounds like a long stretch of time you know
Speaker 3: for it for you know, you and I right, like, hey,
Speaker 3: ten twelve years, that's a big chunk of our lives, right,
Speaker 3: But historically speaking, that's a really small amount of time.
Speaker 3: And to see where Louisville football was from this school
Speaker 3: that you know, at some point there was talk that
Speaker 3: they may get kicked out of Conference USA because of
Speaker 3: how awful the stadium was. There was no real investment,
Speaker 3: no real priority for football. It was just basketball. I'm
Speaker 3: not sure how legitimate that was. That was long before
Speaker 3: I was old enough to know what was going on,
Speaker 3: but that was that was what's out there. That was
Speaker 3: the noise about Louisville football, how they were perceived nationally
Speaker 3: within their own league again, the league that they outgrew
Speaker 3: pretty quickly, but again around that time to where you're
Speaker 3: playing on a national televised game with the top five
Speaker 3: matchup with West Virginia in a blockout, you go to
Speaker 3: the Orange Bowl, knockoff Wake Forest, get a BCS Bowl win.
Speaker 3: I mean, like that is that's a microwave type result
Speaker 3: to where there was questions if you'd even have a
Speaker 3: program fifteen twenty years before that and now you are.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's to be honest, that season. Had they
Speaker 3: not slipped up against Rutgers, they'd played for a national championship.
Speaker 3: I don't know if they would have won it, but
Speaker 3: you know that was a special team. So you're right
Speaker 3: on the text line. That was your first text, by
Speaker 3: the way, unless you got a new phone number, because
Speaker 3: it doesn't show that there's any other texts that have
Speaker 3: come in from that number. So thank you for participating
Speaker 3: and contribute I guess maybe not participating. Thank you for
Speaker 3: contributing to the show. Good stuff?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Uh, Mark Stoops, he talked after practice on Saturday. Not
Speaker 3: sure if Kentucky had a scrimmage like Louisville did. But
Speaker 3: this is the first time Mark Stoops says in this setting.
Speaker 3: You know, in fact, I don't know if he's talked
Speaker 3: about it to anybody else, but on the INSTABA violations
Speaker 3: that Kentucky football announced earlier this month that they were
Speaker 3: vacating the twenty twenty one season. And again, I'll let
Speaker 3: you guys hear this in its entirety. And and you know, clearly,
Speaker 3: I'm pretty I'm pretty outspoken about where I stand within
Speaker 3: the rivalry. But I don't really know if Stoops could
Speaker 3: have I mean, I feel like this is this is
Speaker 3: probably the best way you could have addressed it. Again,
Speaker 3: it probably could have come a little sooner. However, it
Speaker 3: sounds like he was, according to him, kind of told
Speaker 3: not to talk about it right after it had happened.
Speaker 4: Talk to your reaction.
Speaker 6: To the revolution. Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously, you know,
Speaker 6: I really can't say much, so I'm not trying.
Speaker 5: To dodge it.
Speaker 6: But I mean, you know, you're you're you're disappointed, you know,
Speaker 6: because people did a lot of her work and want
Speaker 6: to get to that place. And obviously, you know, three
Speaker 6: years ago now things have changed traumatically, but you know,
Speaker 6: it doesn't make it okay, and uh, you know mentioned
Speaker 6: and Doc cup Ludo commented on that, and in the
Speaker 6: ends Double A has asked me not to say anything
Speaker 6: about it.
Speaker 5: I'm not dodging it.
Speaker 6: And heck, it was three years ago. I'm really worried.
Speaker 1: About right now, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: And uh uh, but we you know, work tirelessly to
Speaker 6: educate our kids and make sure they're doing things right.
Speaker 6: And it worked really hard. We're far from perfect, but
Speaker 6: we work at it, you know, and we try to
Speaker 6: try to do the best we can. And you know,
Speaker 6: I know the compliance in general at this university is
Speaker 6: very diligent, and uh, you know, you know, so we're
Speaker 6: again work, we work at it, and you know we're
Speaker 6: not perfect, and certainly in today's world, we wouldn't be
Speaker 6: on these conversations. You do flat given to them. You know,
Speaker 6: I shouldn't say that you gotta send a tweet get
Speaker 6: a million dollars, but if you call that one.
Speaker 3: So, I don't know if I buy the inst of
Speaker 3: AA is telling him not to say something. But if
Speaker 3: you are going to speak, you gotta be calculated, you
Speaker 3: gotta be careful. And you know, to hear him say that,
Speaker 3: you know it is disappointed, and of course you would
Speaker 3: be disappointed. But he's not acting as if it was unfair.
Speaker 3: He's not acting like it was the wrong decision.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: He said something there that really was relatable for me
Speaker 3: as a Louisville fan, because those dudes getting money for
Speaker 3: jobs they weren't working. Ghost employment, I think, is what
Speaker 3: it's referred to as. That had nothing to do with
Speaker 3: Kentucky winning ten games, nothing to do with it, and
Speaker 3: vacating anything is stupid. But for guys who you know
Speaker 3: did work hard for that special season for Kentucky, and
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not. This isn't this isn't like a
Speaker 3: backhanded compliment. I'm being serious. Kentucky went ten football games
Speaker 3: is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I mean it is.
Speaker 3: It's just it's something that again I never thought would happened,
Speaker 3: and it happened twice according to the record books. Now
Speaker 3: it'll only show that it happened once with Mark Stoops.
Speaker 3: But that's a special thing that people when they become
Speaker 3: professionals in other walks of life post football, they should
Speaker 3: be able to bring up their senior year where they
Speaker 3: were maybe I don't know, not the star, but they were,
Speaker 3: you know, an interior you know, an offensive lineman or something,
Speaker 3: or you know, maybe you just played special teams, but
Speaker 3: you played every play special teams and you were part
Speaker 3: of a ten win season at Kentucky. It is unfortunate
Speaker 3: that now there may be people, oh, yeah, isn't that
Speaker 3: the team that had a bunch of dudes working jobs
Speaker 3: they weren't really working and getting paid and the NSAA
Speaker 3: made you vacated. I just think it's unfair to That's
Speaker 3: why such a stupid punishment, like that's why I get
Speaker 3: and I'll admit it. I'm sensitive and a little bit
Speaker 3: biased towards guys like Peyton and Russ and Gorgee and
Speaker 3: Luke in those guys, because again, they did something insanely
Speaker 3: special and they worked so hard for it, and what
Speaker 3: went on in Minority Hall had nothing to do with
Speaker 3: them actually competing and winning, and so many of those
Speaker 3: guys were not involved in any way in any way.
Speaker 3: So like, I just think it's unfortunate for those guys
Speaker 3: too when they bring it up around here, they won't
Speaker 3: have to worry about it. But you know, let's say
Speaker 3: you're let's say you're Russ Smith in twenty twenty or
Speaker 3: in twenty years. I should say it's way past twenty.
Speaker 3: Let's say in twenty forty four, Russ Smith now has
Speaker 3: the best and biggest bourbon brand in the world, because
Speaker 3: you know, he's already a bourbon entrepreneur himself, and it
Speaker 3: seems like things are going well. But let's just say
Speaker 3: in twenty years it's taken off to where he's now
Speaker 3: just known for being this bourbon mogul. And he starts
Speaker 3: talking about his time as a national champion, and people think, oh, oh,
Speaker 3: in that the only college basketball team that had a
Speaker 3: title vacated because there was stripper party in the door. Like,
Speaker 3: I just think that's unfair to those guys who had
Speaker 3: nothing to do with it, that now like their legacy
Speaker 3: in some former fashion, in the eyes of some is
Speaker 3: attached to that. That's unfair to them. We're not going
Speaker 3: to think about it that way because you know, we
Speaker 3: know it had nothing to do with it. And I'm
Speaker 3: hopeful that at one point, well we'll all realize collectively
Speaker 3: how stupid vacating seasons and wins is to where it
Speaker 3: isn't even thought of anymore. But it is wild how
Speaker 3: Kentucky you know, their twenty twenty one season is not
Speaker 3: comparable to Louislle winning a national championship and them getting
Speaker 3: a season vacated three years later and a season that
Speaker 3: unfortunately didn't really matter in college football in the grand
Speaker 3: scheme of things, Like it's it's not something.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be.
Speaker 3: Part of trivia Louisville basketball being the first team to
Speaker 3: ever have a national championship taken away from them because
Speaker 3: the n S DOAA. That's history. It's the wrong side
Speaker 3: of history. And that's where I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's not to like Mark Stoop said, it's not it's
Speaker 3: not to say that it makes it okay, because clearly
Speaker 3: there was at least an ounce of truth to what
Speaker 3: she was saying, and that's that's disgusting. But to act
Speaker 3: as if that means that the title was not legitimate,
Speaker 3: like d n SAA tried to tell us, it's just nonsense.
Speaker 3: So you know, I didn't realize this until Kin Spencer
Speaker 3: said it last week because we were talking about the
Speaker 3: whole NIL stuff and just how you know, cause Stoops
Speaker 3: right around SEC media days was I've I mean again,
Speaker 3: I just read quotes from the on three KSR story
Speaker 3: as well as what we could give from Darryl Bird's article.
Speaker 2: I believe Darryl Bird's with Rivals.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong there, but either way, like just from
Speaker 3: what I could read, it's he sounded as defeated as
Speaker 3: ever as far as like just how tough it is
Speaker 3: with Nil. Well, you know, Kin Spencer mentioned it last
Speaker 3: week that everybody knows that like it's pay for play.
Speaker 3: Now that's exactly what it is. But there are only
Speaker 3: two coaches here locally in the in you know, the
Speaker 3: area that seemed to really just address it that way,
Speaker 3: and Kin said, one is Mark Stoops and the others
Speaker 3: Jeff Walls, And I mean he's right, like you can
Speaker 3: pay players now. In fact, you have to pay players
Speaker 3: if you want to get good players. This day and age,
Speaker 3: it's changed. It's changed dramatically real quick before I get
Speaker 3: to our next break and potentially vomit. Because I do
Speaker 3: think Kentucky football, if their schedule wasn't so loaded, I
Speaker 3: think you could look at them a little bit differently
Speaker 3: this year because they're one of many teams Clemson's in
Speaker 3: this same category as well. Kind of a not Clemson
Speaker 3: didn't use, doesn't use the portal at all. Kentucky did,
Speaker 3: and they added some guys in the portal. They got
Speaker 3: Ohio State running back to transferred in, obviously, Brock Vandergriff
Speaker 3: from Georgia. You know, we'll see what he can do
Speaker 3: now that he gets a chance to start. He's got
Speaker 3: some good weapons to work with. But Kentucky defensively for
Speaker 3: years now has developed really good players, but developing guys
Speaker 3: who come in as a four star or a three
Speaker 3: star in those guys developing into being all American caliber players.
Speaker 3: Maybe not all Americans, but you know, really good players
Speaker 3: that can that you can win with that is not sexy,
Speaker 3: that is not talked about. It's all about the instant
Speaker 3: gratification from the portal to where you can still keep
Speaker 3: good players around that were talented when you recruited them,
Speaker 3: and if you can coach and develop, you can win
Speaker 3: and have a lot of success with big time players
Speaker 3: that just are not in the news cycle like other
Speaker 3: guys because they don't hit the portal. And I think
Speaker 3: if you look at Kentucky defensively, they should be pretty deep.
Speaker 3: They should be pretty damn good. And that's not a
Speaker 3: huge surprise because again Mark Stoop says, that's if there's
Speaker 3: one thing, well there's a couple.
Speaker 2: If there's two.
Speaker 3: Things he's done really well is in the later half
Speaker 3: of his tenure here he's really dominated the rivalry, which
Speaker 3: I hate to say, but it's true. But also they've
Speaker 3: recruited and developed really well defensively. And I mean, again,
Speaker 3: if their schedule was a little bit different, I think
Speaker 3: you might see people talking about them not as like
Speaker 3: a sleeper to win the SEC or to make the playoff,
Speaker 3: but a team that you know could be pretty good.
Speaker 3: But their schedule, I mean a fourth of their schedule,
Speaker 3: this is wild, But really, I guess it's not that
Speaker 3: wild considering the SEC is the SEC. But Kentucky in
Speaker 3: the AP pole that came out today, one four, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: one third of their schedule is top fifteen teams. They
Speaker 3: play number one Georgia, number four Texas, number six Ole
Speaker 3: miss and number fifteen Tennessee. Not to mention, they play Louisville,
Speaker 3: who is twenty sixth if you factor in those that
Speaker 3: are receiving votes but not ranked, so you know, they
Speaker 3: could be one of Stoops's better teams he's had, but
Speaker 3: the wins are gonna be tough to come by. All right,
Speaker 3: quick break before I throw up, just gassing up Stoops gross.
Speaker 3: All right, stick around, it's coffee and company. We'll talk
Speaker 3: some Louisville football. Coming up at about five thirty, we'll
Speaker 3: bring in the one the Only mister Alex Cupper, former
Speaker 3: Louisville cardinal. I mean, I mean, you guys know Cup, right,
Speaker 3: But I feel like now when I reference Alex Cupper
Speaker 3: and his playing days, like he's been a while since
Speaker 3: he played, like he's getting a like me. I'm not
Speaker 3: sure if he feels that way, but anyways, quick break,
Speaker 3: stick around right here on.
Speaker 2: Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3: I don't know a whole lot about this song, although
Speaker 3: you know I've heard it, I can recite it, I
Speaker 3: could sing it. Don't know who sings it, but it
Speaker 3: just it gets me moving a little bit, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 2: Just gets me.
Speaker 4: It gets me up and around, a good default track
Speaker 4: whenever I just need something to come back.
Speaker 1: What did it?
Speaker 2: What era did this song come from? I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess seventies, but I could be way off.
Speaker 1: That's yea.
Speaker 4: So this one I'm actually playing off the button bar,
Speaker 4: believe it or not. The one thing I know about
Speaker 4: this song is it was in the Shrek Too movie,
Speaker 4: and that's what I always think of when I hear it.
Speaker 2: So is this the Lips?
Speaker 4: It sounds correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think. I think that's who it is.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna guess we go.
Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy nine, Okay, good year as the year my
Speaker 3: dad graduated high school.
Speaker 2: The Lips, So they're still around, I would assume not,
Speaker 2: but it might be a one hit wonder could.
Speaker 3: Be all right, let's see here, not a lot of
Speaker 3: time left in the four o'clock hour, But I do
Speaker 3: want to to go to Texa on just to to
Speaker 3: tell you or I guess, let you know how different
Speaker 3: you can get when it comes to reactions on certain things.
Speaker 3: You know, I talked at the beginning of the hour
Speaker 3: here about how I find myself really needing to kind
Speaker 3: of woosaw and calm down before losing my mind about
Speaker 3: Louisville football being disrespected coming into the twenty twenty four season,
Speaker 3: because they're really not being disrespected at all. And I
Speaker 3: don't know why I have this eagerness to like, wait
Speaker 3: a second, they don't think Louis is gonna, you know,
Speaker 3: win ten games again, they don't think Louisves is a
Speaker 3: top twenty five preseason, and again it's all justified. So
Speaker 3: like I think, I just am so excited about year
Speaker 3: two of the bram Era, knowing that they were off
Speaker 3: to such a great start. But it got me talking
Speaker 3: about how, like, you know, I do try my hardest
Speaker 3: to become to be very objective despite clearly having because
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that claim if you're a
Speaker 3: fan and you have emotion involved, meaning you have an
Speaker 3: emotional investment in a program to where you are very
Speaker 3: happy if your team wins, and very sad if they lose,
Speaker 3: that keeps you from being able to be objective. I
Speaker 3: think that's the dumbest thing ever. I think it's nonsense.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of people that claim that you
Speaker 3: shouldn't have a platform to talk about these things if
Speaker 3: you can't be objective and be honest, which again nonsense.
Speaker 3: I think I clearly have have you know, made it,
Speaker 3: made it? I mean it's obvious. I'm a Louisville fan. However,
Speaker 3: if Louisville stinks, I have no problem saying it, right, Like,
Speaker 3: if Louisville is a team that is looking like, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe they're overrated, I may not come out and you know,
Speaker 3: lead the show with it and just start parading Louisville
Speaker 3: stinks they're overrated, but I'll at least acknowledge Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure if they're as good as others think they are. Like,
Speaker 3: I have no problem shared modest opinion. So I kind
Speaker 3: of pride myself on that I liked, you know, because
Speaker 3: I just feel like if you if you're not gonna
Speaker 3: be real and honest regardless if it's good news, bad news, whatever,
Speaker 3: then who would want to listen to you? They would
Speaker 3: just think you're they would know every every time out
Speaker 3: what you're gonna say. They would know you would be
Speaker 3: so predictable. So anyways, when I talked about that earlier,
Speaker 3: I cut two every time messages on the text line
Speaker 3: five O two six five three zero seven ninety is
Speaker 3: the lln N Federal Credit Union text line. But this text,
Speaker 3: the first one says, I'm not kidding you, Nick. I
Speaker 3: was introduced to your show by a co worker who's
Speaker 3: a Diwhard Louisville fan, and they swore up and down
Speaker 3: that you're a UK fan. They have finally come around
Speaker 3: to believing that you're not a Kentucky fan.
Speaker 2: And then, you know, the.
Speaker 3: Other side is you should really stop acting like your objective.
Speaker 3: You are the biggest homer on Cards Radio. Those two
Speaker 3: texts came in within two minutes of each other.
Speaker 4: Fun fact, we're not even Cards Radio.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think they just call it cards Radio.
Speaker 3: Maybe they are referring to the brand that once was yeah,
Speaker 3: cards Radio seven ninety, or maybe they just you know,
Speaker 3: they call all Louisville Homer's card Radio bird Brain Radio.
Speaker 3: Somebody said that to me one time. I thought that
Speaker 3: was creative, very clever, because it's you know, you can
Speaker 3: only I mean Loserville like that.
Speaker 4: Come on, Like, has anybody ever asked you in person like, hey,
Speaker 4: are you a UK plant?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Never like directly like that.
Speaker 3: But I have had, like I've had UK fans, some
Speaker 3: that I know, like some people that I know, and
Speaker 3: then others like cause again, it never fails. And I
Speaker 3: appreciate anybody who listens, regardless if you hate me, love
Speaker 3: me in between Louisville fan, Kentucky fan, butthole tech fan,
Speaker 3: whoever you're a fan of. If you listen, I appreciate
Speaker 3: it because that's that's what you want is to get,
Speaker 3: you know, people that'll tune in, and we need listeners
Speaker 3: and we have listeners, So.
Speaker 2: Thank you guys.
Speaker 3: But the same people who call in that say hey,
Speaker 3: UK fan, but you know, wanted to say this, they
Speaker 3: say it in person too, Hey man, I'm a UK fan,
Speaker 3: but I really do like your show.
Speaker 2: So again, I do appreciate that.
Speaker 3: But there have been some that have said that that
Speaker 3: and are like, man, like do you cause whenever I
Speaker 3: lose my mind and I just rail on Kenny Paine
Speaker 3: or you know, I guess it really was that because
Speaker 3: that was that was a level of bad that I
Speaker 3: never thought i'd experience. And I'm the person that's got
Speaker 3: a three hour show every day and have to do
Speaker 3: a postgame show for a basketball program that was going
Speaker 3: through just again something we never thought we'd experienced. So
Speaker 3: Kentucky fans like they look, they like that right like
Speaker 3: when we lost to who was it? Arkansas State last
Speaker 3: year and it felt like right before Christmas, Kenny might
Speaker 3: get the boot. We had listeners to that postgame show,
Speaker 3: probably more listeners than I've ever had at any point
Speaker 3: in radio other than the day that Rick and Tom
Speaker 3: got effectively fired and they put me on Hasa and
Speaker 3: seven ninety at the same time. That might have been
Speaker 3: a bigger window because that was a big story, and
Speaker 3: of course we were on.
Speaker 2: The big stick, as they say.
Speaker 3: But those people are like, man like, it's almost like
Speaker 3: they're bothered that I'm not being homer enough, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like they because they want to hear
Speaker 3: a homer.
Speaker 2: They want to hear somebody, you know. They want my tears. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And that's like and that's like want the emotion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I do take pride in not giving them
Speaker 3: that at times. It's not that I'm you know, a
Speaker 3: sore loser. But like when Louisville lost to Kentucky and
Speaker 3: football last year and I do the postgame show, I
Speaker 3: mean I was. I'm sure they enjoyed it because I was,
Speaker 3: you know, I was devastated. But it wasn't like I was.
Speaker 3: It wasn't anger, it wasn't you know, the ref screwed us.
Speaker 3: It was just you know, like man, Yeah, I said
Speaker 3: it all week. I said it for weeks. This is
Speaker 3: the one game you don't want to lose the in
Speaker 3: the series here because it's set up for you to
Speaker 3: take care of business. They have no confidence, they don't
Speaker 3: even like their own team, and Louisville lost.
Speaker 2: And it sucked.
Speaker 3: So anyways, we got another hour to go, so stick around.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk some Louisville football with mister Alex
Speaker 3: Kupper coming up here around five thirty, So stick with
Speaker 3: us again.
Speaker 2: It's coffee and company.
Speaker 3: Feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety