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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, this is Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety taking you up until

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<v Speaker 2>six o'clock, a game day edition of Coffee and Company

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville and action tonight in the acc SEC Challenge taken

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<v Speaker 2>on Chris Beard and Ole Miss. I mentioned this yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know some of you may not have

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<v Speaker 2>been listening towards the end of the show, but Drey

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<v Speaker 2>Davis making his return to Louisville tonight, a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>I was always a real big fan of, loved his game.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a good run there at Seton Hall for

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<v Speaker 2>seen Holloway, who I thought was really just a perfect

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<v Speaker 2>fit with those two guys, and like a lot of players,

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<v Speaker 2>he took advantage of the extra COVID year and the portal.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's now at Old Miss so I know him.

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine his family is probably going to be

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<v Speaker 2>here tonight to Indianapolis is their hometown, so I hope

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<v Speaker 2>they lose tonight. But you know, I always always been

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<v Speaker 2>a big Drey Davis Scott. I've also always been a

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<v Speaker 2>big Seal Brown guy, and he joins us now here

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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety cl What I need to

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<v Speaker 2>do first is say thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know, do you know why I'm thanking you?

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<v Speaker 4>No idea?

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<v Speaker 2>You You helped me enjoy Thanksgiving by our conversation last week.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm a lunatic when it comes to Louisville and

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky the rivalry. I try not to make that as obvious,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have a tough time.

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<v Speaker 3>And we had a.

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<v Speaker 2>Conversation last week and it was something you said that

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of I don't know why, but it just

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of brought me down to you know, reality

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<v Speaker 2>and realized that, you know, Louisville really isn't they should

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<v Speaker 2>have no trouble with Kentucky. Like I was just worried that, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they can't beat him this year, they're never going to

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<v Speaker 2>do it. And you mentioned how okay Louisville defense. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they've had some games where they weren't great, but for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part, they've actually been pretty consistent. Down the

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<v Speaker 2>back stretch of the schedule, they've just been a much

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<v Speaker 2>better team. And at that moment, I was thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, He's right, like it would be the

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<v Speaker 2>worst case scenario to lose to them under these circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was just really not something that you could

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<v Speaker 2>see happening, just considering how different the seasons were going

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<v Speaker 2>for both teams. So I was still on edge, but

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't as stressed during Thanksgiving as I would have

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<v Speaker 2>been had it not been for you putting me at ease.

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<v Speaker 5>So thank you, cl I appreciate glad I could help out.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I think a lot of what we said

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<v Speaker 5>in that conversation it was like Pat Kelsey heard us,

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<v Speaker 5>and Chucky Hepburn heard us, because I mean Chucky had

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<v Speaker 5>his basically his his coming out in the Bahamas. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>he stepped forward kind of like how he talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I guess when it comes to I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>did you you would know more than I would. Was

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<v Speaker 2>there a conversation with him within like the staff or

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<v Speaker 2>somebody he did mention Peyton Peyton Siva being somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>he really has has has enjoyed having as a mentor.

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<v Speaker 2>But the the talent that he showcased and just the aggressiveness,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he looked sensational in those three games, especially

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<v Speaker 2>the first two, and I don't think, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think we saw anything close to that in the

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<v Speaker 2>games prior to that, not because you know, he was

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<v Speaker 2>playing poorly, but like he just as they say, he

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<v Speaker 2>reached in his bag and showed some things that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean he played. What he did against West

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia is one of the best performances you'll see from

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<v Speaker 2>a guard so far this year in college basketball. And

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<v Speaker 2>it was awesome and it's gonna be needed for sure

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the way. But like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>where the hell that came from.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't I'm not privy to any conversations that he

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<v Speaker 5>had with maybe a staff member or somebody he trusts

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<v Speaker 5>in basketball circles, even going back to high school or

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<v Speaker 5>at Wisconsin. But he definitely took more ownership. I think

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<v Speaker 5>I think this team essentially became his in the Bahamas

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<v Speaker 5>and well as they.

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<v Speaker 4>Moved forward, he'll be the guy they look too.

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<v Speaker 5>And that was the thing I was wondering early on

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<v Speaker 5>in that Tennessee game when Tennessee, you know, Louisville couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>make a shot. Tennessee got off to a lead and everything.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, who's the guy, Like, who's who's the

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<v Speaker 5>guy you give the ball to and say stop this run,

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<v Speaker 5>get us a bucket to stop the bleeding. And I

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<v Speaker 5>kind of felt like, I mean, it's the second game

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<v Speaker 5>of the season, so I give him a pass on this.

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<v Speaker 4>But I kind of felt like everybody was just kind.

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<v Speaker 5>Of playing team ball and there was no like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>I need to step forward here.

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<v Speaker 4>It was everybody still kind of on the same level.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think we got a level in the Bahamas

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<v Speaker 5>at the Battle for Atlantis and watching Chucky hepburn play.

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt about it, and he answered the question as

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<v Speaker 2>far as who's going to kind of be the guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you said it best, like the team

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<v Speaker 2>kind of became his team, and everybody around him kind

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<v Speaker 2>of got I mean, I feel like it everybody got

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<v Speaker 2>better from that he was he was taking the lead

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<v Speaker 2>and in the half court they had to play a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more half court than they probably wanted to. But

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<v Speaker 2>when he's able to create for himself or for others,

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<v Speaker 2>and really just I mean he was a pest defensively

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<v Speaker 2>to where even if you're not you know, teams can

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<v Speaker 2>try to slow you down, and I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of teams are going to try to do that with

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<v Speaker 2>louisvill because they just want to take him out of

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<v Speaker 2>their comfort zone. But if he is hounding your opposing

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<v Speaker 2>guard the way he has been defensively, you can try

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<v Speaker 2>to slow it down, He's just going to speed it

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<v Speaker 2>up because he's just going to be a pest. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he was certainly one of the many bright spots,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think two out of three games in the

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<v Speaker 2>Bahamas was something that a lot of fans would have said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take that.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>What you don't like is that you lose case In

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<v Speaker 3>Prior for the year.

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<v Speaker 2>We find out that Korin Johnson is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>out the entire season, going to have shoulder surgery, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>a big blow.

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<v Speaker 3>For Pat Kelsey in this team.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we get into maybe who's going to be relied

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<v Speaker 2>upon more than expected because of these injuries, just your

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<v Speaker 2>initial thoughts on this, I mean, are you somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>now just thinks this ceiling for this team is substantially

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<v Speaker 2>lower than it was prior to these injuries?

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<v Speaker 4>I do.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Prior was the I mean, Prior was probably

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<v Speaker 5>my favorite player in the rotation. And not because he

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<v Speaker 5>was necessarily the best guy, but he just did a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of things. The energy that he brought to the court.

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<v Speaker 5>I did think he needed to stop taking threes, Like

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<v Speaker 5>if I was Kelsey, I would have stopped him from

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<v Speaker 5>shooting a long time ago. But he's still just such

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<v Speaker 5>an intangible on the court with with the many things,

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<v Speaker 5>the block shots he passed, well, you know, rebounding and

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<v Speaker 5>the front court was the biggest question I had about

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<v Speaker 5>this team coming into the season, and his absence means,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, somebody's got to step up big time in

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<v Speaker 5>the front court for this not to be a problem

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<v Speaker 5>moving forward.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's just.

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<v Speaker 5>Just from a depth, depth perspective, I feel like it

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<v Speaker 5>really hurts them, and you know, an energy perspective, just

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<v Speaker 5>kind of having that person that excites not only his

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<v Speaker 5>teammates but the crowd and you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>like having that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's he's a big part his personality. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>big part of your of your identity as a team,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know that's going to be missed in

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<v Speaker 2>a major way. And he's just I think to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to I don't hear many people talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but what I think really is special about him is

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<v Speaker 2>his skill set and his ball handling. For a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that big, you know, he's not he can make a shot.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm with you. I think he shoots. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he shot the third most amount of threes on this

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<v Speaker 2>team and is shooting fifteen percent. So you're not losing

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who was really nailing threes efficiently for you.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean he's the guy. He is the

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<v Speaker 2>prototypical guy that Pat Kelsey loves, the thought of, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need no outlet passes. He's going to get

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<v Speaker 2>it and go and he's got the ability to do

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<v Speaker 2>that and you and you've certainly lost you lost talent.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's probably one of your most talented guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's really no way to minimize the loss of

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<v Speaker 2>case in prior. But am I crazy to think that maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>just maybe when Trey Or gets back whenever that is, like,

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<v Speaker 2>he could he could help you defensively, he could help

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<v Speaker 2>you on the backboard. He's a decent distributor as well.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not casing Pryor, but I feel like if he's

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<v Speaker 2>able to get back sooner rather than later, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that could at least help him a little bit right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's kind of you kind of don't really know

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<v Speaker 2>what you're missing because he's only played in two games

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<v Speaker 2>this year. But I do think when you look at

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<v Speaker 2>what he did at Long Beach State and just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of knowing, you know, what what his resume is, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, you know certain areas where you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>miss case and I think Treira could could kind of

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<v Speaker 2>help fill that void a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he could help the void.

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<v Speaker 5>But I also think, you know, we don't know when

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<v Speaker 5>he's coming back, Like that's the hard hard thing to

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<v Speaker 5>kind of predict. And even when he does come back,

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<v Speaker 5>you figure that it's going to take a few games

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<v Speaker 5>for him to really get back acclimated into playing, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>not only playing with his teammates, because he's only played

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<v Speaker 5>two games this year so far, you know, just just

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<v Speaker 5>the whole conditioning, everything that goes with coming back and

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<v Speaker 5>playing at a high level, you know, in the in

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<v Speaker 5>the ACC. So I I would like to see what,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, somebody like Roots is gonna do, Somebody like

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<v Speaker 5>James Scott, like, does does this mean he kind of

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<v Speaker 5>obviously he's probably gonna have to log more minutes, but

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<v Speaker 5>does he try to expand his role as well. It's

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<v Speaker 5>got feel like it's going to be tough for them,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, inside with with Scott and Waterman really having

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<v Speaker 5>to take on a much bigger responsibility.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I hate saying this because it's gonna make

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<v Speaker 2>some people think that I'm speculating that it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But in this new world of college sports, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>January and that's when Trey Ore is back to getting healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it would not be a surprise if if

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<v Speaker 2>he decided, Okay, I'm just gonna go ahead and red

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<v Speaker 2>shirt this year as well so I can salvage another

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<v Speaker 2>year and play here next year, play elsewhere and continue

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<v Speaker 2>to make money. I mean, that's still something that makes

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<v Speaker 2>people uncomfortable. That's that's that's where we are. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>Colin Lacy did in football. He was injured late enough

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Pat Kelsey built this team to play

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't have the bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they already brought into scholarship guys that were

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<v Speaker 2>mean you might have answered the question by mentioning James

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<v Speaker 2>And of course Corn Johnson.

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<v Speaker 5>All Right, Hadley's ability to rebound is going to come

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<v Speaker 4>If he's going to be needed a lot more. It's

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<v Speaker 4>not going to be like, you know, kind of not

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<v Speaker 4>quite a novelty. But if he got thirteen what was it,

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<v Speaker 5>But now it's more like he needs to be consistently

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<v Speaker 5>losing both offensive rebounds in and overall losing the rebounding

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<v Speaker 5>battle the teams. So he's gonna have to get in

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<v Speaker 5>and mix it up a little bit more, especially against

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<v Speaker 5>probably against guys that are bigger than he is too.

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<v Speaker 5>In a lot of cases, he figure what Duke is

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<v Speaker 5>gonna roll out? They basically have NBA sides in their lineup,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, so that's that's gonna be a big test,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think Ole.

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<v Speaker 5>for from here on out, I feel like they have

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<v Speaker 5>and so everybody's gonna have to really be on.

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<v Speaker 4>It as a team. And I think Javon Hadley might

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and when you in a perfect world, when you've

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<v Speaker 2>got depth and everybody's healthy, you could have Hadley give

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<v Speaker 2>you thirteen on the backboard and then maybe for the

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<v Speaker 2>next night, and it's no big deal because trejore or

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<v Speaker 2>prior was cleaning the glass and now it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So you got to you gotta come ready to work.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's just the more I'm looking at the roster,

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<v Speaker 2>the more I realize just I mean, prior he was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just walk into some rebounds because of his athleticism,

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<v Speaker 2>because of his size, and yeah, it's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 3>So let's switch gears here and talk some football.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Brohm, I think at this point has has done

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good job at adapting to the new world

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<v Speaker 2>of college football, really college sports when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>transfer portal. Is it safe to say that right now

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be one of I'm sure he's not the only one,

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<v Speaker 2>but he'd be one of the coaches that if you

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<v Speaker 2>are in the portal as an offensive players, especially that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's for a couple of years, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>in both seasons at Louisville there have been some guys

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<v Speaker 2>that really finished strong in their careers and not to

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<v Speaker 2>say that it's all Jeff's doing, But Jeff gave him

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity and they fit well with what he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do. I feel like in the portal Louisville's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be should be an attractive school for a lot

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think if I'm an offensive skill player, especially,

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<v Speaker 5>he would be someone I would I would look up

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<v Speaker 5>because I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean, he's got a track record of it, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Way that he's his offense can sometimes feature guys.

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<v Speaker 4>And really put him out there.

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<v Speaker 5>That would be intriguing to me if I was.

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<v Speaker 4>In that situation.

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<v Speaker 5>And these two years at Louisville, you know, you look

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<v Speaker 5>at what he's done with quarterbacks, bringing them in. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to talk down on Jack Plumber, but

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<v Speaker 5>I was very surprised that he even made the practice

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<v Speaker 5>squad for the Carolina Panthers. You know, I did not

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<v Speaker 5>think he was an NFL quarterback. And because of the

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<v Speaker 5>amount that that just throws at his quarterbacks and expects

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<v Speaker 5>them to retain and and just the things that they

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<v Speaker 5>can do in terms of pre checks and coming to

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<v Speaker 5>the line of scrimmage. That that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 5>where I interviewed Jack Plumber way back when in the

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<v Speaker 5>summer during during their training camp. That's one of the

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<v Speaker 5>things he said that the Panthers were most impressed with

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<v Speaker 5>him his ability to just kind of make those reads

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<v Speaker 5>and it was expected under Jeff Brohm. That's one of

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<v Speaker 5>the things that that basically Plumber learned being in this system.

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<v Speaker 5>So h and then you look at how he brought

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<v Speaker 5>Tyler in, and you know, he defied these.

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<v Speaker 4>Questions about can he stay healthy for a full year?

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<v Speaker 5>And part of that was because obviously, you know, you

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<v Speaker 5>had the best for tection and still get one shot

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<v Speaker 5>to knock you out. But part of it is Jeff

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<v Speaker 5>didn't put him in those compromising positions like Texas Tech

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<v Speaker 5>did when he was running on some cases, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen times a game. You know, he didn't put them

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<v Speaker 5>in those positions where he's going to get hit and

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<v Speaker 4>A position to get injured.

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<v Speaker 5>So I do think and I think Tyler's going to

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<v Speaker 5>because he played here.

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<v Speaker 3>Or totally agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, David blau is still in the league. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not even sure if you know who that is, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was a quarterback at Purdue before Jeff got there,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and you know, wasn't lighting it up and

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a big time recruit, but he found some success

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<v Speaker 2>and learned a lot about that position, and he's he's now,

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<v Speaker 2>I think with the Commanders, And I just think this

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<v Speaker 2>was a big year for Jeff to go get a

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<v Speaker 2>guy like Chuck, because if you look around the country,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many other quarterbacks that ended up the bigger

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<v Speaker 2>program and probably got a lot more money that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have looked at Shuck, and he probably had a better

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<v Speaker 2>year than them, not just because Louisville wasn't eight and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>but I mean statistically, I mean he was good. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he made some plays, especially when they played really

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<v Speaker 2>good teams. I mean I kind of feel like he

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<v Speaker 2>played his best ball when they were playing the better competition,

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<v Speaker 2>which of course has to help you when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to being attractive to the NFL. All right, on the

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky side, obviously, they had a miserable season in football.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm really not trying to kick him other down here.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I think it's a legitimate question at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, I mean I am kicking

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<v Speaker 2>him other down, but it's been a rough five six

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<v Speaker 2>years when they just kept winning in football and it

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<v Speaker 2>was just something I never thought i'd experience in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm glad that's over and hopefully they never went again.

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<v Speaker 2>But they got embarrassed against Louisville, and I think they

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<v Speaker 2>honestly played their worst game of the season, like Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>did enough to have a factor in that, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they could. Kentucky was terrible and

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<v Speaker 2>every aspect of the game, I feel like, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I should have expected because they were one

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<v Speaker 2>and seven in league play going into the game. But

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<v Speaker 2>you have Mark Stoops saying he's coming back. There was

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<v Speaker 2>rumors that he was gonna lose Vince Marrow to Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm not sure if that was ever really gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Today there's players entering the portal and that happens everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you have a bad season like this and

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<v Speaker 2>the momentum is gone and it seems as if it's

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<v Speaker 2>heading in the wrong direction, any little thing is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be really under the microscope by fans. They're losing

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<v Speaker 2>another offensive coach, a wide receivers coach, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>is leaving to take the same position at Nebraska. So

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<v Speaker 2>some of these things may just not they may not

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<v Speaker 2>even be that big of a deal. But I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of feel like this thing has snowballed for Mark Stoops

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<v Speaker 2>to where I just I would challenge somebody to give

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<v Speaker 2>me a realistic scenario where next year Kentucky fans feel

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<v Speaker 2>like he's still the guy long term. I know they

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel that way now, and he's going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to prove it to him next year, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's gonna be harder for him to

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<v Speaker 2>get players than ever because of the lack of momentum

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<v Speaker 2>they have right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's an interesting situation with Steups because I do

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<v Speaker 4>Like he can get the job done there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>what he's done in.

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<v Speaker 5>His tenure is unprecedented at Kentucky, and you know, having an.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight game I mean, an eight year bull streak.

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<v Speaker 5>Is something that shouldn't be just taken for granted there,

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<v Speaker 5>because if they made the wrong hire, got rid of

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<v Speaker 5>suits and made the wrong hire, you know, who knows

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<v Speaker 5>when they would be able to flip it and get

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<v Speaker 5>on a run like that again. But I also kind

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<v Speaker 5>of question and I don't know if this year is

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<v Speaker 5>what did it for him, and he's having a four

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<v Speaker 5>and eight year is going to rejuvenate him to where

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<v Speaker 5>he's coming back stronger next year.

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<v Speaker 5>Felt like he's just in a place where the motivation

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<v Speaker 5>and the juice just isn't the same, Like he's not

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<v Speaker 5>stirred in the same way that maybe he was when

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<v Speaker 5>he was, you know, younger and hungry if you will.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I kind of compare it to like to

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<v Speaker 5>like an entertainer, a rapper or a singer, like when

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<v Speaker 5>they first come out, they're so hungry and you hear

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<v Speaker 5>more mixtasting in it all over the place, and they're

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<v Speaker 5>doing great things, and then once they had the big

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<v Speaker 5>albums and the big success, it's like it falls off

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<v Speaker 5>and it's like, yeah, the same drive from them, Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of feel like Stoops is in that place now,

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<v Speaker 5>Don't know if there's something that that gets him back.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I've li liken it to Patino when

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<v Speaker 4>Hold here and there.

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<v Speaker 5>There was the team twenty ten to twenty eleven with

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<v Speaker 5>Preston Nose kind of leading the charge. I've made this

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<v Speaker 5>comparison before, and that he talked about how that team

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<v Speaker 5>they played together, they believed in what he said, you

426
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<v Speaker 5>know what I mean.

427
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<v Speaker 3>Like you got the most out of that team.

428
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<v Speaker 4>Sure, yes, And then he got it going again.

429
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<v Speaker 5>He got his swagger back marks swagger again.

430
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<v Speaker 2>What it sounds like is that I think Stoops just

431
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<v Speaker 2>became and I would get I will say this, I

432
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<v Speaker 2>can appreciate this about a guy in his position coaching

433
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<v Speaker 2>at a place like Kentucky to where what she sees

434
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<v Speaker 2>what you get. I don't think there's any strategy to,

435
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<v Speaker 2>you know, be super happy or super set. I think

436
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<v Speaker 2>he wears everything on his sleeve, and I think he

437
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<v Speaker 2>really did not like his team this year. As far

438
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<v Speaker 2>as the character, I know, Vince Mara was on one

439
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<v Speaker 2>of our shows here earlier this week yesterday on with

440
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<v Speaker 2>Matt Jones and kind of talked about how they started

441
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<v Speaker 2>prioritizing talent more so than character and it backfired on him.

442
00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:29.000
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine he may go get some blue collar

443
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<v Speaker 2>guys that are kind of cut from the same cloth

444
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<v Speaker 2>Youngstown tough. That's sort of the brand that Stoops has

445
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<v Speaker 2>run with for a long time to maybe that is

446
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<v Speaker 2>what is what energizes him. But you know, you're right,

447
00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:39.319
<v Speaker 2>he just kind of seems like he's been you know,

448
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<v Speaker 2>he just kind of hasn't had the same level of like, Hey,

449
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go prove you guys wrong. I mean, he

450
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<v Speaker 2>was almost like it was he was letting people know, Hey, sorry,

451
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<v Speaker 2>I know you want me gone, but I'm gonna be here.

452
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's not the way he meant it, but it

453
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<v Speaker 2>just kind of sounded like that on Saturday. But you're right,

454
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<v Speaker 2>you know, to say that anybody when ten games at

455
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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky and football is crazy. I mean I remember saying

456
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<v Speaker 2>this after the second ten win season. Actually no, I

457
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<v Speaker 2>think I said it after their first ten win season Understoops.

458
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<v Speaker 2>If you'd told me the Kentucky football is gonna win

459
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<v Speaker 2>ten games, I would have assumed that Nick Saban ended

460
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<v Speaker 2>up coaching there for whatever reason. Like so he's he's

461
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<v Speaker 2>done a phenomenal job, but man, it just seems like

462
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<v Speaker 2>in a three year span, especially this past year, it

463
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<v Speaker 2>really it really went uh went sideways for him. A right,

464
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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a lot of time left, but I

465
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<v Speaker 2>got to get your thoughts on this one.

466
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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, go ahead, Like the whole character versus talent

467
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<v Speaker 4>thing is overstated.

468
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<v Speaker 5>If they would have been winning games, nobody would be

469
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<v Speaker 5>talking about.

470
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<v Speaker 3>Care That's a fair point. That's a fair point.

471
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<v Speaker 2>I think it's an easy thing to throw out there

472
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<v Speaker 2>when you lose with good players, Right, that's a really

473
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<v Speaker 2>good point.

474
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<v Speaker 4>Was picking the wrong quarterback? Yeah, that's what.

475
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<v Speaker 3>You are spot on?

476
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<v Speaker 2>Better, you are spot on because however, if you yeah,

477
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<v Speaker 2>when you say that, it's it's the one you know,

478
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<v Speaker 2>it's the one cop out you have because there's really

479
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<v Speaker 2>no reason to be as bad as you were, especially

480
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<v Speaker 2>when they had good players that are probably going to

481
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<v Speaker 2>either go to the NFL or transfer and probably be

482
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<v Speaker 2>good elsewhere. So yeah, no, I think that would be

483
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<v Speaker 2>a really good counter to that, to that that comment.

484
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<v Speaker 2>All right, real quick, your thoughts on this Ole Miss

485
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<v Speaker 2>team Chris Beard in his second season. They're off to

486
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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good start. They won loss on the year.

487
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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a close one to Purdue. Uh,

488
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<v Speaker 2>just your thoughts on on this matchup tonight.

489
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean I think it's gonna be I know,

490
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<v Speaker 5>Louisville's favorite, which I feel like that's all home court.

491
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<v Speaker 4>I think it's gonna be tough.

492
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<v Speaker 5>I got a lot of respect for Chris Beard and

493
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<v Speaker 5>kind of what he's done in his stops. They definitely

494
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<v Speaker 5>have these transfers that have come in and done well

495
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<v Speaker 5>in his system, and they got you know, Virginia Tech

496
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<v Speaker 5>transfer Padula, Taran Padula.

497
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<v Speaker 4>Shoot a three point specialists basically, yeah, they got.

498
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<v Speaker 5>I remember covering uh Jami and Braakfield when he was

499
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<v Speaker 5>at Duke his first year.

500
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<v Speaker 4>Back in like.

501
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<v Speaker 3>One season.

502
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's it's like that's what I was like. Dang,

503
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<v Speaker 4>he is still playing.

504
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<v Speaker 5>As you mentioned dray Davis earlier, you know, he's he's

505
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<v Speaker 5>an integral part of their their.

506
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<v Speaker 3>Team, is he not?

507
00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Like dray Davis played for two guys after he left Louisville,

508
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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like are perfect for him, Bo Shaeen

509
00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Holloway and Chris Spirit. I feel like dray Davis is

510
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<v Speaker 2>the kind of player that was like created to play

511
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<v Speaker 2>for those two guys.

512
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<v Speaker 3>Just tough.

513
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you create some money in the video game, you know, Yeah, yeah,

514
00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:26.039
<v Speaker 4>so you.

515
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<v Speaker 5>Know, I mean, I think I think it's gonna be

516
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<v Speaker 5>a scrappy game. I'm looking at the big picture too.

517
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<v Speaker 5>I think it's gonna be a blood bath for the ACC.

518
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<v Speaker 5>Louisville is one of the games that I had the

519
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<v Speaker 5>ACC winn and I had.

520
00:23:38.480 --> 00:23:41.680
<v Speaker 4>The a CEC for like four games. I was looking

521
00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:42.279
<v Speaker 4>at that.

522
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:46.160
<v Speaker 5>I feel like the ACC should win, and three of

523
00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:47.720
<v Speaker 5>them are because they're the home team.

524
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<v Speaker 3>But I just uh's gonna be tough.

525
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<v Speaker 5>I think it's gonna be tough, especially just mentally knowing

526
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<v Speaker 5>that prior isn't there and hearing the Corn Johnson news today, Like, mentally,

527
00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:03.480
<v Speaker 5>the kids are gonna have to come in with a

528
00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:06.240
<v Speaker 5>level of toughness, you know what I mean, knowing.

529
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<v Speaker 4>That their guys aren't aren't.

530
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<v Speaker 5>Coming back this season periods, So it's gonna be a challenge.

531
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<v Speaker 5>But I also like to see these situations just to

532
00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:16.839
<v Speaker 5>kind of see.

533
00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:19.119
<v Speaker 4>How Kelsey reacts too, because you.

534
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<v Speaker 5>Know, we're learning him as well as we're learning the players,

535
00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:25.039
<v Speaker 5>and now they react in situations. So I want to

536
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<v Speaker 5>see what kind of wrinkles he pulls out for this game.

537
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<v Speaker 2>See all good stuff, as always, appreciate the time, keep

538
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<v Speaker 2>up the great work, and we'll talk sooner, right brother,

539
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<v Speaker 2>All right, appreciation it, Take care of that's Ceel Brown

540
00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:39.359
<v Speaker 2>or the Courier Journal. Always appreciate him making sound for us.

541
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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we got to get out of here for

542
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<v Speaker 2>a quick break. We'll come back a couple of shorter

543
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<v Speaker 2>segments here in the rest of the four o'clock hour.

544
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<v Speaker 2>We still got a lot to go. We're halfway there,

545
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<v Speaker 2>and trust me, there's a lot more fun to be had.

546
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<v Speaker 2>If you don't believe me, stick around and find out.

547
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<v Speaker 2>How about that for a tease. You'll miss out if

548
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<v Speaker 2>you don't stick around, So don't go anywhere. It's coffe

549
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<v Speaker 2>and but if fuel about Thorton's on Sports Talk seven.

550
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<v Speaker 1>Ninety, you're listening to Coffee and Company with Nick Coffee

551
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<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven ninety.

552
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<v Speaker 2>Apologies for the poor clock management once again, but we

553
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<v Speaker 2>can sacrifice a couple of shorter segments to wrap up

554
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<v Speaker 2>at four o'clock hour if that means we get a

555
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<v Speaker 2>lengthy conversation with the one and only cl Brown. Good

556
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<v Speaker 2>stuff there as always from cl And he's right when

557
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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the comment made and I'm paraphrasing here,

558
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<v Speaker 2>but I know it was said something like this as

559
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<v Speaker 2>far as prioritizing talent more than character. Vince Mayer said

560
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<v Speaker 2>something similar to that when he was on with Matt

561
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<v Speaker 2>yesterday on KSR. And you know, I don't think that

562
00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:47.880
<v Speaker 2>that's really you know, it's not crazy to say that

563
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:51.359
<v Speaker 2>that is that that you know isn't real, because I

564
00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:55.359
<v Speaker 2>think they did have some internal stuff going on and

565
00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:57.799
<v Speaker 2>the culture just hasn't been good. But at the end

566
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<v Speaker 2>of the day, the culture is the responsibility for the

567
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<v Speaker 2>core is the guy leading the program and that's Mark Stoops.

568
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<v Speaker 2>But see, how is exactly right Kentucky. I think they

569
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know. I don't have a clue

570
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:09.160
<v Speaker 2>what goes on like behind the scenes, But like, I

571
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<v Speaker 2>think they've always acted like they've had a sense of

572
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:13.960
<v Speaker 2>entitlement that really I don't know where that came from.

573
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what they like, I don't know what

574
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<v Speaker 2>would make the Kentucky football program internally have this sense

575
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<v Speaker 2>of worth that like isn't there.

576
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<v Speaker 3>And again I'm I'm I don't. I mean, I'm trying

577
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<v Speaker 3>not to.

578
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<v Speaker 2>Make it about a rivalry thing here, but I think

579
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:31.759
<v Speaker 2>they would beat Louisville and feel as if they were

580
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot better than they actually were. And you know,

581
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:38.079
<v Speaker 2>to be fair, that's on Louisville's that's Louis's fault for

582
00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:42.319
<v Speaker 2>not beating them, you know. But I think what he

583
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<v Speaker 2>said is so true when it comes to the lack

584
00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:48.559
<v Speaker 2>of like if they if they acted the way they

585
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:50.559
<v Speaker 2>acted and everything was going on the way that it had,

586
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<v Speaker 2>Like if they were winning and everything else was still

587
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<v Speaker 2>the same, you wouldn't hear about the culture problem and

588
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:02.400
<v Speaker 2>about guy that Stoops is basically going to say, I

589
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:04.279
<v Speaker 2>don't need to have a conversation with you.

590
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:05.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you you need to leave.

591
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you know this, this isn't going to work.

592
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<v Speaker 2>So you know, that is a little bit of a

593
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<v Speaker 2>cop out there. But which what I think your you know,

594
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:15.960
<v Speaker 2>coaches are going to learn is that like put it

595
00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:17.359
<v Speaker 2>this way, Mark Stoops, when he had a lot of

596
00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:19.480
<v Speaker 2>six when he was when he had success at Kentucky

597
00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>to where they started to break through and no longer

598
00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:24.200
<v Speaker 2>be the worst team in that league and in the

599
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:27.279
<v Speaker 2>bottom tier of Power five football. Yeah, he brought in

600
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:31.119
<v Speaker 2>some good players, But I feel like Mark Soops is

601
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:32.960
<v Speaker 2>the kind of guy where he's going to get the

602
00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:37.519
<v Speaker 2>most out of a three star that has talent, right, Like,

603
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 2>you can't expect a two star that nobody's heard of

604
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:41.839
<v Speaker 2>to come in and be really good in the sec

605
00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Like you need to bring in talent.

606
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:44.599
<v Speaker 3>Recruiting matters, and you're never going.

607
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:48.559
<v Speaker 2>To bypass a five star recruiter, a four star recruit

608
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:49.839
<v Speaker 2>that wants to play for you, that you feel I

609
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:53.359
<v Speaker 2>could help you. But it may be a compatibility thing, right,

610
00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 2>these guys that are big time recruits, maybe they're divas

611
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.000
<v Speaker 2>prima Donna's. Maybe they got a bunch of nil money

612
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.480
<v Speaker 2>because they transferred to you, and they're not willing to

613
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.839
<v Speaker 2>kind of conform to your culture that you want. I mean,

614
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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you the best example, Rick Patino. His best

615
00:28:08.480 --> 00:28:11.799
<v Speaker 2>type player was a guy that was talented. Trust me,

616
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:15.319
<v Speaker 2>you need talent, but not the guys who were already

617
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>propped up as one and done's no matter what happens

618
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:22.480
<v Speaker 2>in college, the you know, the.

619
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<v Speaker 3>Five stars or the forest.

620
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>And he didn't get many five stars, but the five

621
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<v Speaker 2>stars he did get, it just didn't work out. Like

622
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 2>they didn't like they couldn't handle Rick. Maybe they didn't

623
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<v Speaker 2>know what they were getting themselves into. They weren't as

624
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<v Speaker 2>hungry and they weren't willing to do what it takes

625
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>to play for Rick Patino, which I've never played for

626
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:39.279
<v Speaker 2>a Patino. But I know people who have and he will.

627
00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:41.359
<v Speaker 2>He will bring more out of you than you knew

628
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.480
<v Speaker 2>you had. He will challenge you in a way that

629
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<v Speaker 2>you never knew possible. And to this day that I

630
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.200
<v Speaker 2>mean Donovan Mitchell's killing it in the NBA right now,

631
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.799
<v Speaker 2>and any chance he gets when he's asked about sort

632
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>of you know, I guess his success and everything, he'll

633
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:55.799
<v Speaker 2>he'll find a way to sneak in his time at

634
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Louisville playing for a Patino because Patino challenged him in

635
00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:02.160
<v Speaker 2>a way he didn't know possible, and it brought out

636
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<v Speaker 2>the type of player he is now that like maybe

637
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:07.359
<v Speaker 2>he didn't even know he could be so. Terry o'zeer

638
00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:10.200
<v Speaker 2>another guy, he wasn't a top ten, top fifteen player,

639
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 2>but he was a high four star who was really

640
00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:17.079
<v Speaker 2>good and really succeeded. Taekwandan, Francisco Garcia. I mean, these

641
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>are guys who again had other options. They were talented.

642
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:21.960
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like a you know, Russ Smith is a

643
00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:24.839
<v Speaker 2>diamond in the rough. Ruff Smith's a guy who nobody wanted.

644
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:26.839
<v Speaker 2>He lied to Rick about a scholarship offers when he

645
00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.000
<v Speaker 2>was being recruited by Rick and he almost left, and

646
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:31.799
<v Speaker 2>to be honest, Rick didn't try to stop him, and

647
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:33.599
<v Speaker 2>I think he understood at that time if you wanted

648
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:35.839
<v Speaker 2>to go home and play at Manhattan for Stevie Mass,

649
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 2>I get it. So, you know, coaches are having to

650
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:43.599
<v Speaker 2>learn about themselves later in their career than they ever

651
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:46.039
<v Speaker 2>would in a previous world. But the new world is

652
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:49.880
<v Speaker 2>going to give you a big mixed bag of players,

653
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>high school kids that you know you're hoping develop grown

654
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 2>men playing it in the fifth and sixth year of

655
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:58.480
<v Speaker 2>college because of the new rules in the COVID year,

656
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:00.839
<v Speaker 2>and you're just gonna have to find a way to

657
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>make it work. I think getting the culture you want

658
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 2>in your program is probably going to be more difficult

659
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.559
<v Speaker 2>than it's ever been for coaches because again, you're bringing

660
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.000
<v Speaker 2>like example, Jeff Brom, there were some dudes they brought

661
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:20.519
<v Speaker 2>in that are that enrolled last year in January that were, uh,

662
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, I hate using this word because it's a

663
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>it just it shouldn't be used in something that's not

664
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<v Speaker 2>as serious as you know, cancer. But they were toxic,

665
00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:29.960
<v Speaker 2>if you will, They were toxic to the locker room,

666
00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>toxic to the culture, Jeff Brom snipped, it out, packed

667
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:34.640
<v Speaker 2>their bags and told them to get the hell out

668
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.039
<v Speaker 2>of here. And that's exactly what they did because he

669
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:38.960
<v Speaker 2>could sense that, hey, this is not going to be good,

670
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:42.240
<v Speaker 2>and you know, you got to be able to and

671
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:44.400
<v Speaker 2>it's and it's tough because you know, you got to

672
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 2>really keep an eye on that kind of stuff and

673
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:48.640
<v Speaker 2>you really got to do your due diligence to figure out. Okay,

674
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:50.559
<v Speaker 2>I know what I'm bringing in as far as talent

675
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:54.839
<v Speaker 2>and production from the portal, But what's this guy like

676
00:30:54.920 --> 00:30:55.640
<v Speaker 2>between the ears?

677
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 4>Right?

678
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:57.759
<v Speaker 3>What is he? What kind of guy is he?

679
00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Is he a good guy that's going to be somebody

680
00:30:59.920 --> 00:31:01.400
<v Speaker 2>that can fit with what we want to do, because

681
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:04.119
<v Speaker 2>you can't have guys come in and they start establishing

682
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.960
<v Speaker 2>a different culture than what you want. So I always

683
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:09.160
<v Speaker 2>say this all the time, and I know it's sound

684
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:11.119
<v Speaker 2>like a broken record, but we are in a new

685
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:13.920
<v Speaker 2>world college sports. When I watch college basketball, like I'm

686
00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:16.720
<v Speaker 2>going to tonight, when I watch college football on Saturdays

687
00:31:16.799 --> 00:31:20.200
<v Speaker 2>between the lines, it's the same thing, right, We're watching

688
00:31:20.319 --> 00:31:23.799
<v Speaker 2>the same sport. And maybe every now and then you'll realize, damn,

689
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:25.920
<v Speaker 2>that guy's still in college and that's when you realize,

690
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:27.759
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, they can transfer, they get all these you

691
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 2>know they I forgot about this guy. Well he's been

692
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>at three schools in four years or something. So occasionally

693
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.039
<v Speaker 2>you'll see it something, you'll see it and you'll realize, Okay, yeah,

694
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:38.599
<v Speaker 2>this is different. But everything else outside of when you

695
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.000
<v Speaker 2>watch the sports, when it comes to just roster management,

696
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:45.799
<v Speaker 2>off season talk everything money like in il, like your

697
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.279
<v Speaker 2>collective's hitting you up, wanting you to not only support

698
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:50.400
<v Speaker 2>the university and buy tickets, but give them money too.

699
00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Like it's such a different world and everybody's trying to

700
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:56.599
<v Speaker 2>find their footing. Some have been able to adapt better

701
00:31:56.599 --> 00:32:00.519
<v Speaker 2>than others, and some have just left the industry. Rights.

702
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:03.759
<v Speaker 2>That's what's happened. So all right, quick break, Sorry for

703
00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 2>the short segment. We'll come back, wrap up the four

704
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:08.960
<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour. Talk a little bit about tonight's spreads. We've

705
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:10.640
<v Speaker 2>got some, I mean, we've got an unloaded amount of

706
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 2>college basketball games to bet on. And I feel like

707
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:14.920
<v Speaker 2>a real I feel like a real ace right now

708
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:16.839
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to college hoops, because last night, you

709
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:19.759
<v Speaker 2>know what I did, Rhode Island minus three.

710
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:23.680
<v Speaker 3>And a half? Got it? Oh, how about UT Arlington

711
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 3>against somebody I don't remember Moneyline one B twenty. Never

712
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:29.519
<v Speaker 3>a doubt, Never a doubt.

713
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>But there are some good games tonight that I'm looking

714
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:33.519
<v Speaker 2>forward to betting on because it's teams you know that

715
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:35.640
<v Speaker 2>I've actually watched a little bit, because you know they're

716
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.839
<v Speaker 2>from real leagues. All right, quick break, don't go anywhere,

717
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:41.640
<v Speaker 2>let's ride, let's do. It's Coffee and Company. I'm Nick Coffee,

718
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:43.960
<v Speaker 2>he's Austin Montgomery. We're taking you up till six o'clock.

719
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 2>So hang out right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

720
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.920
<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Coffee and Company with Nick Coffee on

721
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I gotta be honest with you, but I'm looking

723
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:03.240
<v Speaker 2>here at the the lines for all the college basketball

724
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>action tonight. I mean, I mean the most intrigued. I

725
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>mean the play I think is to fade the ACC.

726
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:15.279
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not trolling anybody, but I did get a

727
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:16.759
<v Speaker 2>lot of pushback on the text line about what I

728
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.680
<v Speaker 2>was saying about the ACC, And again, I think it's

729
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:21.799
<v Speaker 2>a reminder for me that I'm not like I don't

730
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm I want the ACC to do well because I'm

731
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:28.279
<v Speaker 2>clearly a Louisville fan and that the better the league

732
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:30.359
<v Speaker 2>is the better it is for Louisville. But I'm not

733
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 2>like a fan of the ACC. Again, it's almost by proxy.

734
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:36.119
<v Speaker 2>It's by default because that's the league that Louisville's in,

735
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:38.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, But I don't have any I don't have

736
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:41.279
<v Speaker 2>any love for a league like I do my team,

737
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:44.039
<v Speaker 2>and I think most are the same way.

738
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:46.559
<v Speaker 3>But I guess I don't know. I mean, look, if

739
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 3>you there's.

740
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:49.759
<v Speaker 2>No benefit at all, if your league isn't good now,

741
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.359
<v Speaker 2>potentially you could take advantage and win a lot more games.

742
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.279
<v Speaker 2>But you know, if you're winning a league that nobody

743
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:55.680
<v Speaker 2>thinks is good, there's not going to be as much

744
00:33:55.759 --> 00:33:58.079
<v Speaker 2>value there. So when I talked about it earlier, which

745
00:33:58.119 --> 00:34:00.200
<v Speaker 2>we can reset it in the five o'clock hour, the

746
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>ACC is a basketball league has fallen off substantially. And

747
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm not bringing it up to clown anybody. I mean,

748
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 2>it's just the truth. And yes, I'm aware that Louisville

749
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:12.159
<v Speaker 2>is one of the biggest factors in the league not

750
00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:16.360
<v Speaker 2>being now what it was eight ten years ago, But

751
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:19.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it is what it is. It's not really

752
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:22.159
<v Speaker 2>a debate, I don't think. I mean, you can find

753
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>whatever data point you want to try to convince yourself otherwise.

754
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:28.400
<v Speaker 2>But NC State making the Final four last year does

755
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:30.280
<v Speaker 2>not mean that the ACC is just that good of

756
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:30.639
<v Speaker 2>a league.

757
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.559
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't. You you can tell yourself that.

758
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:36.519
<v Speaker 2>But just just like if a team wins thirty games

759
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:38.159
<v Speaker 2>and loses in the first round of the tournament, that

760
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.239
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that team's not good. It just means they

761
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:44.840
<v Speaker 2>got upset and in college basketball, were weird. I wouldn't

762
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:46.599
<v Speaker 2>have it any other way, but it makes no sense that,

763
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:49.440
<v Speaker 2>like we you know, what makes it weird is what

764
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 2>makes it all so special, is that, like your thirty

765
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:53.840
<v Speaker 2>wins mean nothing if you lose in the first round

766
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:56.440
<v Speaker 2>to a fifteen seed, right, I mean, doesn't mean the

767
00:34:56.440 --> 00:34:58.800
<v Speaker 2>team's not good, but you didn't show up when it

768
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.280
<v Speaker 2>mattered the most. And it really makes people not care

769
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:03.199
<v Speaker 2>at all about what you did for the previous three

770
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:05.800
<v Speaker 2>and a half months. It's not it doesn't make sense,

771
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>but it is just the way we are in college basketball.

772
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:12.360
<v Speaker 2>So anyways, tonight you've got This is not a part

773
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:16.480
<v Speaker 2>of the ACC SEC challenge. Uh, But Austin I like,

774
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I like Cincinnati minus three and a half at Villanova.

775
00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:23.599
<v Speaker 2>Villanova has fallen off substantially and they did what a

776
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of these other ACC teams did where when their

777
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 2>coach just decided to walk away, they just gave the guy,

778
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:31.440
<v Speaker 2>gave a guy the job who has been around, And

779
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:34.400
<v Speaker 2>what's the guy Kyle Neptune at Nova. I mean, I

780
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:36.639
<v Speaker 2>don't know how he survives the rest of this season

781
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:38.320
<v Speaker 2>or even you know, he'll probably spot the rest of

782
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:39.960
<v Speaker 2>the year unless he gets terribly bad.

783
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:41.519
<v Speaker 3>But Cincinnati's got a good team here.

784
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Wes Miller has done a really good job and feels

785
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:46.679
<v Speaker 2>like this is the year where they finally broke through

786
00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>to where he's got Cincinnati in a pretty good place,

787
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:50.639
<v Speaker 2>the ranked number fourteen in the country right now. But

788
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:53.119
<v Speaker 2>I think minus three and a half is the play

789
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 2>here in that one. And then I don't know how

790
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:57.920
<v Speaker 2>much you've watched as some of these other teams in

791
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:00.880
<v Speaker 2>the UH, in the ACC, in the SE but have

792
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:02.480
<v Speaker 2>you seen much of cal in Arkansas?

793
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:05.920
<v Speaker 6>I just know that it's he's kind of becoming a

794
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 6>mad man and a lot of a lot of Arkansas

795
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 6>fans aren't really in favor of it. But I haven't

796
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:12.000
<v Speaker 6>actually watched them play.

797
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:12.079
<v Speaker 4>Well we are.

798
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:14.800
<v Speaker 2>You're not missing much because it's really the same. It's

799
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the same type of team, and I don't mean, well,

800
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:19.960
<v Speaker 2>it's not the same type of team because he doesn't

801
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.719
<v Speaker 2>as good players. He had three NBA player, I mean

802
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 2>he had more than three, but like last year they

803
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:28.760
<v Speaker 2>had three insanely talented guards with Reeves and Shepherd and Dillingham.

804
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:32.480
<v Speaker 2>But at Arkansas he's playing the same style and it's

805
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:35.199
<v Speaker 2>just I mean, it's with DJ Wagner running the show

806
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:37.679
<v Speaker 2>and not those three guards I mentioned, which you know,

807
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:39.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm not picking on the guy, but like DJ Wagner

808
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:41.880
<v Speaker 2>at best is like a second team All Conference player

809
00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 2>by his senior year. He's just not that good. And

810
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:46.400
<v Speaker 2>then Nellie Davis, the transfer from FAU who was the

811
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:48.519
<v Speaker 2>number one or number two guy in the portal depending

812
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:50.960
<v Speaker 2>on where you looked. He's averaging like eight a game

813
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.800
<v Speaker 2>and has not done anything to look anything other than average.

814
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>So Miami they've been bad too this year. I mean Laraennega,

815
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean that guy. He took a team to a

816
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:04.119
<v Speaker 2>final four that they paid for, and they paid good

817
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:06.280
<v Speaker 2>money because they got to a final four with Isaiah

818
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Long Nigel Pack. And then I can't think of the

819
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:11.400
<v Speaker 2>guy's name who was at Miami for two years and

820
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:15.159
<v Speaker 2>now he's actually a Baylor. But man, Miami, you know,

821
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:17.840
<v Speaker 2>they don't have the talent they've had in previous years.

822
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.320
<v Speaker 2>They just still love Nigel Pack and they're three and

823
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.800
<v Speaker 2>four right now with losses to So I can't say

824
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>that I trust Miami to cover against Calipari in Arkansas.

825
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:29.119
<v Speaker 2>If Miami wasn't as bad, I might Are you.

826
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.119
<v Speaker 6>Signed four and a half for years on that game?

827
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:31.519
<v Speaker 1>Yep?

828
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.599
<v Speaker 3>Yep? So, by the way, check this out.

829
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:39.519
<v Speaker 2>Miami got three wins to start the season against Fairleigh, Dickinson,

830
00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:44.559
<v Speaker 2>Binghamton and Coppin State. Since then, an eleven point loss

831
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 2>to Drake, a double digit loss to Oklahoma State, a

832
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:51.480
<v Speaker 2>seven point loss to VCU, and they lost to Charleston

833
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Southern over the weekend.

834
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:57.119
<v Speaker 3>Wow. So like Miami is Again, I didn't even.

835
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Know this before I talked about the ACC sucking, so

836
00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:03.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised now. I want to just hammer Arkansas minus

837
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:05.639
<v Speaker 2>four and a half because Miami's that bad.

838
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 6>Good God, I like the under in that game. I'm

839
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 6>seeing one five. I like under.

840
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's way too many points. Yeah, I'm with

841
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 2>you on that. I'm gonna crunch. I'll look at the

842
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:15.079
<v Speaker 2>kin Palm numbers.

843
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:15.880
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I like that.

844
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I like that. We might have just built our first

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<v Speaker 2>parlay together for college basketball on the show. It kind

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<v Speaker 2>of feels like it kind of feels like we're having

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<v Speaker 2>a moment here. We're taking Cincinnati minus four and a

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<v Speaker 2>half and then the under in the Miami Arkansas game.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's ride, baby, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I like it.

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<v Speaker 6>What about what about Northwestern to cover five against Iowa?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know enough about him. Northwestern has been in

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<v Speaker 2>closer games this year against bad teams, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>they've avoided big upsets. And then with Iowa, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's to me, that sounds more like an under. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'll have to look at the number. But we'll keep building.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll keep building, baby Big n conege back. So far,

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<v Speaker 2>we got another hour to go, So all right, five

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock hours next. A lot to get in here before

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<v Speaker 2>we wrap it up and call it a day.

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<v Speaker 3>So stick with us.

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<v Speaker 2>We got one more hour to go right here on

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Talk seven ninety mm hmm