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<v Speaker 1>Well here we are back here. Let me get back

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<v Speaker 1>over to Twitter. Let's bring up our co host. Welcome everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>last ever my cast episode UFL Championship Reactions. John just

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<v Speaker 1>discovered like five, I'm like, John, that was the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the episode. What do you meet? John's like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the end anyway, John, Welcome, How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great. I don't believe it, but I'm doing well.

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<v Speaker 2>It was interesting championship game. Great way to wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish more people had tuned in to watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do all that to that. Yeah, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Mitchell's TV ratings, we have attendance stuff, we have

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<v Speaker 1>the championship reactions, and then we'll say goodbye. I already

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<v Speaker 1>put out you know, we're not doing the CFL and

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<v Speaker 1>then it feels like it's time. It's twenty percent down

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<v Speaker 1>UFL Championship ratings year over year. We'll get to it later.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to all of that. Welcome everyone, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will note we might have a what did I call

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<v Speaker 1>it a pressure washer coming to clean the deck here?

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<v Speaker 1>What do we want to go out?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Back, so I couldn't even be on the deck. So

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<v Speaker 1>really just a perfect way to kind of end all

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<v Speaker 1>of this today. But anyway, welcome. Make sure I can

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to John's channel. You know, I might pop up

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<v Speaker 1>back up on there every once in a while, or

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<v Speaker 1>PATS channel. I know Anthony Miller is working on CFL

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<v Speaker 1>stuff as well. So yeah, we'll still you know, propagate

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<v Speaker 1>everything and I'll still be your But I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>have this. I just didn't want there to be this

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<v Speaker 1>lingering question forever of like when is like when am

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<v Speaker 1>I coming back? So John, it was an exciting the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess football we're here Tuesday, we'll do all that

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll do kind of the year end stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was hosting my mother's seventieth birthday party. Many

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<v Speaker 1>reasons why this is podcast. But I watched the game

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday. I texted you was it? You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit of a slog in the rewatch

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<v Speaker 1>just because we kind of know the outcome. What was

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<v Speaker 1>your reactions watching the game live because you had a

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<v Speaker 1>different opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought it was I thought it was entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you kind of look at the final

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<v Speaker 2>score and you're you know, and and maybe if you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just rewatch some of the highlights or or

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<v Speaker 2>just maybe a cut and you know cut down. I

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<v Speaker 2>know UFL is really good about putting up longer form highlights.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was completely entertaining. Now about five minutes left,

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<v Speaker 2>I did, I was, I was starting to nod off

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, but I thought it was I really

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<v Speaker 2>really thought it was an entertaining game, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a great way for the UFL to kind of wrap

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<v Speaker 2>up the season. Those were two incredible quarterbacks, Jordan Tom

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<v Speaker 2>who had the game of his absolute life and then

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce Perkins. You know, it kind of got overshadowed because

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<v Speaker 2>like every time, I think for the first ten possessions,

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<v Speaker 2>why DC scored so but what Bryce Perkins did you

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<v Speaker 2>know in that game also might have got an overlooked

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<v Speaker 2>but he had really had like a he had an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible game too. So they even said after after the game,

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<v Speaker 2>like his teammates and Shannon Harris, the coach felt like

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Tom who should have been the Offensive Player of

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<v Speaker 2>the Year and the MVP, but he did win the

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<v Speaker 2>MVP of the championship, so that that did go a

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<v Speaker 2>long way.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just bizarre to me that, like the Panthers

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<v Speaker 1>just seemingly kind of forgot to play defense or just

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, it was every time you know, Tamu

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<v Speaker 1>was throwing it down. Well, did you just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>not the Michigan team maybe that we were used to

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<v Speaker 1>or what was your thoughts on just kind of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It really felt like they kind of fell apart here.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they some points at the end, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not a good show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well they I think they got punched in the mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's you know, they old Mike Tyson quote about

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<v Speaker 2>everybody has a plan to they get punched in the mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>and but that's what Jordan Tamu and that offense did.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Fred Kayes had an absolutely incredible game plan

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<v Speaker 2>for the Michigan Panthers because it was kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not to that extent, but it was kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite last time these two played. And so there were

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of things I thought that d C wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to prove. And when they they just got hot and

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<v Speaker 2>they and they never cooled off. And you don't see

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot in football. A lot of times you'll see,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a team come out pretty strong and they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to hit a slog now and then d C

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<v Speaker 2>never felt like they did, and they all and and

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan just could not counter punch with them Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of the Tayomu of it, I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>off season a long time and then we talked to

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<v Speaker 1>pres and all that. I mean, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Taomu is kind of a little bit longer

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<v Speaker 1>in the tooth as well. Here Similarly, in the Mark

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<v Speaker 1>has like, do you feel like he I just like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is left.

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<v Speaker 2>For him here?

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<v Speaker 1>You know he's he was right the game MVP won.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what else is left for Tamla at

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I mean, when you have a

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<v Speaker 2>game like that, it would be hard for me to

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<v Speaker 2>think that he's just gonna stop playing, like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot. It felt like that there's still a

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<v Speaker 2>lot left in that tank that you know, that wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some slappy team they were playing. They were

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<v Speaker 2>playing a really really good Michigan team in the championship

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<v Speaker 2>game of the UFL. You know, I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>he gets you know, I would think he would get

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<v Speaker 2>another look in the NFL. But you're right, Age might

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<v Speaker 2>play a factor in that. But we're you know, assuming

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, things line up for the UFL in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six. I would just be shocked if he

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<v Speaker 2>just if he didn't get an NFL look and he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't catch on, you know, whether it's on an active

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<v Speaker 2>roster or a practice squad, that he would just quit

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<v Speaker 2>because it just feels like that he's got a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a lot left to me, at least on

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's twenty seven. I mean that's I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you kind of go to the UFL fan zone

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<v Speaker 1>said twice, I was, well, of course twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I still getting wrong here last day, but like it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like he I just feels like he's he's I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, just have kind of gone through it. Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>here says you a masterclass and play my guys. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't Cassious or whatever. What was the Fred Cassius or whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>The Brandon mad On the I could get that. What

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<v Speaker 1>is what do you this championship game right lopsided by

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<v Speaker 1>all accounts, score looks a little whatever. I was there

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<v Speaker 1>last year, blowout, right, we all remember, I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was it wasn't a game, yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean really I'm trying to remember, like what was it

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<v Speaker 1>the Star Stallions, like that was a good one back,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Cookiss leg break. I'm just trying to think of,

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<v Speaker 1>like what is it about these championship games that and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you know there's only been a couple of it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like we have a little bit more lopside here,

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<v Speaker 1>like were these two the best two teams? And why

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that there was such lopside in this

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<v Speaker 1>year in the.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that happens to the super Bowl. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen it more more often than not that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the super Bowl ends up being a complete blowout. So no,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just there are a lot of I

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<v Speaker 2>think there are a lot of factors in there. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, who is the who's the better play caller,

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<v Speaker 2>who gets hot, stays hot, who's got you know, who's

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<v Speaker 2>who's got the uh, who's got the right game plan?

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<v Speaker 2>But also this might have been for a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>these players the first time on a stage like this,

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<v Speaker 2>like in a championship game. Now granted it wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>super Bowl. It certainly wasn't a super Bowl crowd there

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<v Speaker 2>or a super Bowl TV audience, but that none of

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<v Speaker 2>that really matters. It's like a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 2>are asking these NBA players about, you know, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think about like the TV ratings being down? And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think it was like Halliburton, there were

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<v Speaker 2>some other players saying, well, we're we're playing in the finals.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't care about TV ratings because this is their sport.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, I just think that this might have

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<v Speaker 2>been I'm not saying that Bryce Perkins or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some of that didn't live up to it. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you play a little differently when you're in a championship game.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes that's better and sometimes that's worse.

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<v Speaker 1>They're talking here at Commander's back. I assumed for a talent,

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<v Speaker 1>but well, you know they got married other right, we

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<v Speaker 1>got them one more because Commander's my team. We got

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<v Speaker 1>married of that, I would I mean, guys, love Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>right now and I'm glad that we got him back

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<v Speaker 1>on there, but he's not going to be a backup forever.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be cool. Do we want to

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<v Speaker 1>do ratings and kind of move that into this? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to any more general thoughts about the game

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<v Speaker 2>I just again, I thought like if you if a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people might just have seen the score, they

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<v Speaker 2>would have thought, well, that wasn't very interesting, or boy,

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<v Speaker 2>there were a lot of points score, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>still wasn't a close game. I just really thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was entertaining to me from beginning to end. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a dog in the fight, even though

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I mean, I had a panther shirt ready

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<v Speaker 2>it was a really interesting game and it showed like

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<v Speaker 2>high how high level that a lot of these players

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<v Speaker 2>can play and have played this season.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Sunday and I finally texted you

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<v Speaker 1>because again we had had people over on Saturday. Kind

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<v Speaker 1>of right during the game, I thought, well, like so

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<v Speaker 1>much for that Tom Brady halftime announcement and expansion the

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<v Speaker 1>new markets. And I did not see the halftime show.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not included in the recaps that I watched.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it did not feel very high budget was

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<v Speaker 1>with the vibes that I got. I saw pictures from

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<v Speaker 1>the stadium, like do we see any of that? Or

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<v Speaker 1>I guess how is your thoughts on the overall TV

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<v Speaker 1>presentation Joe Testaturus style here?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean like, those guys did a great job,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, the halftime show probably would have been better off.

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<v Speaker 2>It looked like somebody was televising a free concert at

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<v Speaker 2>the State Fair. I mean it was you know, three

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was three guys. They were good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna take that away from them. I just

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<v Speaker 2>it looked low budget and it looked amateurish. And again

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about how this league is a TV product

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<v Speaker 2>and they have got to embrace some of this with

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<v Speaker 2>like with optics, if you're putting on a TV show,

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<v Speaker 2>it did. It didn't look good. It was there was

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<v Speaker 2>no special lighting or anything. It was just those guys

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<v Speaker 2>out there playing. Again, I thought they were good. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they got mixed reviews from a lot of people, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that they could have they could have found something maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Seemed like that would have been a that would have

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<v Speaker 2>bring out Tom Brady and and Fred Smith and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>that they're going to buy these teams, but none of

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<v Speaker 2>that happened. We got a I don't the black Moods, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, well more like the bad moods here coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of the well. No, but I mean I agree

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<v Speaker 1>day of there and it my enternet. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why it keeps them light the one time I'm inside here,

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<v Speaker 1>so hopefully it's fine. I'm just getting there a mess

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<v Speaker 1>just but yeah, like spotlight some of that or you know, pregame,

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<v Speaker 1>Like not one person in the world except for the

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't And I don't think they're paying for that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think the Black Moods are like, hey

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<v Speaker 1>we got twenty gram we'll pay, so like you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gaining anything from it. So I and I did see

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers and like, yeah, but you know, and and I

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<v Speaker 1>was at the time like, well, this is the CFL

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna look and it looks like a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks so good, Like even like you said, with

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<v Speaker 1>the UFL dim the lights bring some fans to stand

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<v Speaker 1>in front of them. Do we have it, like, do

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<v Speaker 1>we have a stage? Like can we just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of stuff to make it feel like it's more?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's brutal for I mean, I don't make

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<v Speaker 1>any fun Like what do you what are you supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do if you're those guys Like I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>photo like he's standing on a guitar case or something

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<v Speaker 1>to be three feet up. He's got a little Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Daughtry kind of short thing going on. But I just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but this whole like it just it killed me.

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<v Speaker 1>The you know, we're the last times, Like yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>whole halftime and expansion and everything, and then but like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we got all our views off it, so I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you know, there was also the talk, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the UFL's making this big announcement, be sure to stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, earlier in the season when they were in

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<v Speaker 2>Saint Louis and everyone, all of us knew what it was,

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<v Speaker 2>but there were a few of us who were just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe this is it. This is when they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>announce that it's but it was just Danny Garcia announcing

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<v Speaker 2>that it was the UFL Championship was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>played in Saint Louis. That we all knew about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So but yeah, I just you know, again, it's optics

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<v Speaker 2>and you had fourteen thousand people there or fourteen thousand

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<v Speaker 2>tickets sold. It just it's I mean, maybe it's good

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<v Speaker 2>that the ratings were low that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see that, because I don't know that they would

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<v Speaker 2>return if that's what they thought. The championship game should

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<v Speaker 2>have looked like, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's yeah, let's talk to that and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know, deep dive here at the

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<v Speaker 1>game Tuesday, you know, going and all that. But I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was I just it was just really curious

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<v Speaker 1>to me because I knew the outcome. But like you said, well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it was you know, the game itself was entertaining because

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<v Speaker 1>it felt like every time DC got the ball, they scored.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's just I mean, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>arena football there for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was it was certainly better than last year.

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<v Speaker 2>With the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like so I would, Yes, I would, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>because that was I came down and sat with Andy

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<v Speaker 1>and them at halftime last year. I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>brutal because I was up in the stands. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>uh in the press box, I'm what's the point of

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<v Speaker 1>sitting up here? Lift? But let's get some mic posted

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<v Speaker 1>this today and then Abdul's got a chart here. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we have our charts and our attendance, but nine hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty three thousand viewers for the championship game. It

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<v Speaker 1>peaked at one point two from eight to eight fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That means it peaked in the first fifteen minutes. Greg

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<v Speaker 1>Parks had tweeted out that last weekend repeat of the Connors,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can pull up the tweet it had a

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<v Speaker 1>million viewers for a similar timeslot. So just to give

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a retrospect for that, we saw the Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey Friday Night step before. I think Mike has on here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a twenty percent, or I'd do a twenty percent,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yack. I didn't think it was very good,

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<v Speaker 1>but down nineteen percent overall, but the attendance here was

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<v Speaker 1>one point five to nine. You know, so one point

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<v Speaker 1>six to nine eighty three year over year, Like that

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<v Speaker 1>was my reaction. What was your reaction to this, John,

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<v Speaker 1>Because this was not good.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it wasn't good. And I went back and like

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<v Speaker 2>looked at some numbers. So the twenty twenty two USFL

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<v Speaker 2>Championship that was on Fox, that was on July third,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of like the July fourth weekend got

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<v Speaker 2>one point five million viewers, and then the next year

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<v Speaker 2>it got one point one million. XFL Championship in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three one point four and then we're just talking

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<v Speaker 2>about how you went from one point five to nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty three thousand, and that's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you also look at the over the season,

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<v Speaker 2>it had an average of six hundred and forty five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand viewers, and that was down from eight hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twelve from the year before. So something has to change here.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, you know, we we heard from Russ Brandon

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<v Speaker 2>and Danny Garcia and Daryl Johnston Friday before the game

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<v Speaker 2>that everything is on the table and they're taking a

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<v Speaker 2>look at some things they and they said, well, we're

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<v Speaker 2>not worried about the ratings. I think Russ Brandon said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there are a lot of leagues that would

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<v Speaker 2>give their eye teeth that to have the viewers that

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<v Speaker 2>they had, And that might be true for some, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's just not sustainable. I mean, I don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>question that I shouldn't say this. I've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Spring leagues just disappear all overnight. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to happen with the UFL. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's we've got a twenty twenty six, but you can't

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<v Speaker 2>have numbers like this and have a twenty twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>It's well, that's like the thing. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had tweeted just again in the response to the

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Cardinell that Mark Perry had wrote up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the ratings aren't down, you know, or whatever he said.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked and at least, you know, Daryl Johnston was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more you know, he feels a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more honest about it. But like, so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my point is we talked all the time TV and attendance,

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<v Speaker 1>and they go, attendant, doesn't matter who cares, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the attendants here. So then you go look

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<v Speaker 1>at the ratings and you go you're halfway. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you did sixty percent of what you did last year,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five percent of that? Like, so so what does

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<v Speaker 1>matter then? Like that's what I just don't like if

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<v Speaker 1>the attendant sayesn't matter, but then the ratings are down

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<v Speaker 1>fifty I mean that what is the math on that

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<v Speaker 1>one point six and nine eighty three? I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>a that's a was it forty percent drop?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And you know it also I think speaks to

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<v Speaker 2>we've talked about this before. I think it also speaks

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<v Speaker 2>to interest in the markets, you know overall, when you

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<v Speaker 2>start to see attendants drop and then you start to

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<v Speaker 2>see you know, and they're there are a bit you

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<v Speaker 2>know large some you know, mid size to larger markets

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<v Speaker 2>that are these home teams and I don't you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Mike Mitchell can probably break it down who

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<v Speaker 2>he's got, you know, by market by market through Nielsen ratings. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, this is you. You you start to worry

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<v Speaker 2>that interest has waned, and you know, and then when

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<v Speaker 2>you see numbers like that, you you know, you start

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<v Speaker 2>to have those thoughts again, like interests might be waning

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<v Speaker 2>in this overall, not just not just from the casuals

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<v Speaker 2>who might not have caught on, but maybe some people

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<v Speaker 2>who watched it last year and just kind of gave

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<v Speaker 2>up on it this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's the problem is now we're getting and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a comment from a sky here and he's

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<v Speaker 1>just asking about, you know, the stallions and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we come back? Do we move?

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<v Speaker 1>It's so now that we've done the championship game, that

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<v Speaker 1>was when you were going to make the announcement. That's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I don't know, like so spoiler, that

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<v Speaker 1>announcement isn't coming right, So that's not coming. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how you drum interest in year three now

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<v Speaker 1>of this UFL. And I'm not saying that, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>expansion is the answer, but obviously that's the break glass,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we need. I just don't know a natural

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<v Speaker 1>way to grow interest in this league now going into

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<v Speaker 1>year three if you're gonna have all eight markets back,

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<v Speaker 1>because like we said that, half these markets are ones

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<v Speaker 1>that I would have ever picked anyway to put that

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<v Speaker 1>in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, from the sounds of what they were,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, at least saying publicly that the trio that

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<v Speaker 2>did the news conference, it sounds like they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take a pretty conservative approach. But you're right, it's I

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<v Speaker 2>wonder if if you can have a two conservative approach,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you don't signal some kind of growth and

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<v Speaker 2>read you you said this, I think even after last

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<v Speaker 2>season that to signal some growth you need to have

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a couple of new teams. And it just and

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<v Speaker 2>it just it didn't never came to fruition. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Russ Brandon said they did put out you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>RFPs and said that they've had some conversations. I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>surprised we haven't heard anything that some kind of news

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't leaked out, or if it has, I haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>So that doesn't mean that it hasn't happened. I just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know if location is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the answer, although I've said before, like the Memphis

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<v Speaker 2>situation doesn't seem sustainable, and you know, Birmingham still getting

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<v Speaker 2>you know when when they need some help with scheduling,

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<v Speaker 2>so they can't use that as an excuse next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one. But you know, you can't have those Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>noon games down there. You just can't do that. So

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<v Speaker 2>that I think these again, these are things that it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to they'll use this as a learning process. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>let's see if they act on that and see really

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<v Speaker 2>what comes to fruition and in the off season now

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<v Speaker 2>and in twenty twenty six, well, yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Saw it back It was at the USFLA that season

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<v Speaker 1>two and then we talked about, you know, the hub

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of adding to Memphis thing like I just

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, it's kind of the break glass whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw USF whether they now UFL news, it was

421
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<v Speaker 1>the USFL. I mean, everyone hates me, but they were

422
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<v Speaker 1>all it was like the USFL news account and was

423
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<v Speaker 1>UFL news, but they were posting we had like a

424
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<v Speaker 1>a the out or Oklahoma whatever. And then they're you know,

425
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<v Speaker 1>another trademark, right, like another trademark was filed, and of

426
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<v Speaker 1>course and everyone runs and all this stuff, and I'm like,

427
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<v Speaker 1>this is like not how you league build of like

428
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<v Speaker 1>well we were able to get this old trademark or

429
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<v Speaker 1>like well this one we bought this one from Brian Woods,

430
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<v Speaker 1>so we should put a team Like that's just not

431
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<v Speaker 1>I just this is all backwards, just how like how

432
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<v Speaker 1>you would ever go about doing any of this or

433
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<v Speaker 1>even like putting the request out like well if you'd

434
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<v Speaker 1>like to come to our cities, like, you know, we're

435
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<v Speaker 1>open to it. Like I don't know. I watched fourteen

436
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<v Speaker 1>thousand people go into Saint Louis, Like why would I

437
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<v Speaker 1>for the championship game? Like why would I want that?

438
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<v Speaker 1>And we'll do ratings in a second, but I just

439
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<v Speaker 1>I to me, like, as I've said before, you kind

440
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<v Speaker 1>of lose all that momentum. I have one more comment

441
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<v Speaker 1>about the trio here, but go for it, and then

442
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<v Speaker 1>I'll make that No.

443
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<v Speaker 2>I you're right, and you've brought up this point before

444
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<v Speaker 2>and we've talked about it. If you want to sell

445
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<v Speaker 2>these franchises, keep it in the market. You have what's

446
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<v Speaker 2>your product? Now? We saw some absolutely great gameplay on

447
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<v Speaker 2>the field, especially after Week three. It seemed like, you know,

448
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<v Speaker 2>that was when offenses are catching up to defenses. Everything

449
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<v Speaker 2>was going great, you know, play wise, it wasn't going

450
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<v Speaker 2>great attendance wise. So you can have you know, and

451
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<v Speaker 2>I've used this this before talking to people. It's like

452
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<v Speaker 2>you can have the best food you know and have

453
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<v Speaker 2>the best restaurant, but if nobody's coming in to sample it,

454
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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna make any sales and you don't stay

455
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<v Speaker 2>in business. So the gameplay has been good. It's just

456
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<v Speaker 2>a matter of they've got to figure out a way.

457
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<v Speaker 2>And Darryl Johnson has said as much. In places like

458
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<v Speaker 2>Birmingham and places like Memphis, what is the disconnect here? Now?

459
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<v Speaker 2>I know Memphis struggled, there's no question, and that you

460
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<v Speaker 2>know a lot of people aren't going to show up

461
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<v Speaker 2>to watch a bad team. But there are a lot

462
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<v Speaker 2>of things that they can fix. Ticket prices is won

463
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<v Speaker 2>They keep saying it's affordable, it's affordable, but ticket prices

464
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<v Speaker 2>went up in a lot of places. They started doing

465
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<v Speaker 2>specials later on, but that's also what restaurants do. Before

466
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<v Speaker 2>they go out of business, and you start doing two

467
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<v Speaker 2>for one specials, you know that they they're in trouble.

468
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<v Speaker 2>So there are some things that they've got to look at.

469
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<v Speaker 2>I think that the product is good, but there's got

470
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<v Speaker 2>a way to make it better and make it connect

471
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<v Speaker 2>not just to the communities, but also you know, to

472
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<v Speaker 2>the casual fans as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They just the comment I wanted to have was about

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<v Speaker 1>the trio just kind of the media day in general,

475
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<v Speaker 1>and if you want to share any thoughts or not,

476
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<v Speaker 1>but you know, if you're going to be a League

477
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<v Speaker 1>moving forward. I was getting the emails and the zoom

478
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<v Speaker 1>links didn't work, and then we needed to do and

479
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<v Speaker 1>the audio wasn't working, and you were trying to send

480
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<v Speaker 1>me links so I could watch. Like, it's not a

481
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<v Speaker 1>professional way.

482
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<v Speaker 2>To handle that.

483
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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if anyone from ufl it makes

484
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<v Speaker 1>it this far into this final episode, but like, this

485
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<v Speaker 1>is not a This is not a professional way to

486
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<v Speaker 1>run your media day. So you need to have links

487
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<v Speaker 1>at work and microphones and cameras at work, and people

488
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<v Speaker 1>get like, I don't. I think we saw more from

489
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<v Speaker 1>Maddie and I think Stefan and them were doing cell

490
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<v Speaker 1>phone videos than I saw the League posting any of

491
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<v Speaker 1>that stuff, and it would just was garbage anyway. So

492
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<v Speaker 1>just it's always just kind of like the least amount

493
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<v Speaker 1>of effort. It's the same with the halftime show. It's

494
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<v Speaker 1>the same with the media day. It's the same with

495
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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. It's like, well, we kind of kind

496
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<v Speaker 1>of tried to do it, so now what we can

497
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<v Speaker 1>just move on to some of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would have liked, you know, I know a

499
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<v Speaker 2>guy who's like really good at video and has cameras

500
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<v Speaker 2>and like knows how to live stream. I bet, I

501
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<v Speaker 2>bet I can. I'll have I'll get in touch with

502
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<v Speaker 2>him and see if he can get in touch with

503
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<v Speaker 2>the UFL next time. But yeah, I mean again, you know,

504
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<v Speaker 2>it looked kind of amateurous. Now here's the thing. You know,

505
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the people out there weren't going to

506
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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to see that anyway. But I'll also

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<v Speaker 2>say on the converse of that, if you are a

508
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<v Speaker 2>local station, a local TV station or anything, you're not

509
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<v Speaker 2>going to use somebody's cell phone string. You can't use

510
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<v Speaker 2>it on television. I mean, I used it in the video,

511
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<v Speaker 2>my last video, and you can say it's just you know,

512
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<v Speaker 2>I tried to fix it. I spent thirty plus minutes

513
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<v Speaker 2>trying to fix their audio so you could actually hear it.

514
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<v Speaker 2>You can't see it. It looks terrible, but you can

515
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<v Speaker 2>hear at least hear the audio what they're trying to say. So,

516
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<v Speaker 2>but you're right, it's just they're they're they need to

517
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<v Speaker 2>step up in some professionalism. Again. I'm going to lean

518
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<v Speaker 2>on the side of optimism that, Okay, here's something that

519
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<v Speaker 2>they've learned. This is what they need to fix for

520
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<v Speaker 2>next year.

521
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<v Speaker 1>I am going to have to talk to this deck

522
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<v Speaker 1>watching guys super quick, Why don't you I'm going to

523
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<v Speaker 1>flip over to the attention super quick, Why don't you share?

524
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<v Speaker 1>Because we gotta have duetts thoughts here or I his charts.

525
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<v Speaker 1>We'll do that, but give your thoughts on this. I'm

526
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<v Speaker 1>going to drop out for thirty seconds, not.

527
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<v Speaker 2>Right back, sure, you know, so we'll you know, I mean,

528
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<v Speaker 2>we'll take a look there with the attendance at fourteen

529
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<v Speaker 2>five point fifty nine, and that is you know, that's

530
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<v Speaker 2>tough for a championship to me. Number one is because

531
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<v Speaker 2>it it shows that, you know, people weren't interested. And

532
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<v Speaker 2>we thought like, okay, what if we you know, what

533
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<v Speaker 2>if we have in Saint Louis where we think that

534
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<v Speaker 2>everything you know, where it's it's a football crazy town,

535
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<v Speaker 2>and then there's gonna be a lot of people there.

536
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<v Speaker 2>But it didn't happen. And you know, I was talking

537
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<v Speaker 2>to a friend of mine today and say, well, if

538
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<v Speaker 2>it's not in their team, then why why should they care?

539
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<v Speaker 2>And I said, that's your first problem right there, that's

540
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<v Speaker 2>your problem, because it's just showing that there's not a

541
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<v Speaker 2>lot of you know, a lot of interest, you know,

542
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<v Speaker 2>even for people who would come to that game even

543
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<v Speaker 2>in Saint Louis, and you know they were given tickets

544
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<v Speaker 2>and everything else. So I don't know what's going on,

545
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<v Speaker 2>uh with that, And I just think that that's another

546
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<v Speaker 2>indicator of they've got to work this out. Also, Stephen Johnson,

547
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<v Speaker 2>I saw you. I see you here. I gave you

548
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<v Speaker 2>a shout out. It's not on the lie I think

549
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<v Speaker 2>it's not on the last video but the one before.

550
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<v Speaker 2>So check it out and thank you for joining much channel.

551
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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like that. Who oh, it was funny today

553
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<v Speaker 1>I saw one of my Washington Commanders reporters was something

554
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<v Speaker 1>and he was in there like you need to get

555
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<v Speaker 1>this right, like you get paid millions of dollars to

556
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<v Speaker 1>talk about sports. And I was like, he's a beat

557
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<v Speaker 1>reporter for the Commanders that like has like very good,

558
00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:09.839
<v Speaker 1>but like he's not making millions of dollars talking about this.

559
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<v Speaker 1>I just the one comment I had on this in

560
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<v Speaker 1>just the fourteen thousand whatever. Just today they open and

561
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<v Speaker 1>like this is Apple Sapple or not Apple samples, but

562
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<v Speaker 1>the they just open the Ireland UK tickets for the

563
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<v Speaker 1>NFL game. There are six hundred thousand people just in

564
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<v Speaker 1>the Q on line to buy tickets and like, so

565
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<v Speaker 1>we bought our tickets for the Madrid game. I go,

566
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<v Speaker 1>we bought them through the league, like early, through a

567
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<v Speaker 1>you know, their hospitality department or whatever the heck you

568
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<v Speaker 1>want to call it. And I'm like, gosh, so like

569
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<v Speaker 1>people do travel again today, They're like it does. And

570
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<v Speaker 1>I understand that, like the UFL is not the NFL,

571
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<v Speaker 1>and I understand all of that, but the point is

572
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<v Speaker 1>you need to make it be something that people were

573
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<v Speaker 1>worth while to travel to. And if any year, like

574
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<v Speaker 1>if I wasn't going to travel to Saint Louis lash

575
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<v Speaker 1>for the Birmingham you know, maybe I had gone to

576
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:06.079
<v Speaker 1>the other Birmingham Championship games. Well shoot, I'm I'm a

577
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Defenders fan. I can go now, I'm I'm a.

578
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<v Speaker 2>Panthers, you know.

579
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, at least there's there's that thing on that.

580
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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, people will want to do anything if

581
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<v Speaker 1>you give them the reason to do it. So it

582
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<v Speaker 1>kills me this lag, Well, no one who would travel

583
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<v Speaker 1>to like a lot of people travel the games.

584
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, and somebody made a good point here.

585
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:25.599
<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe Saint Louis fans did do their part,

586
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<v Speaker 2>and but you can't ask them to fill up the

587
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>stadium when the BattleHawks aren't there. But I'll still say,

588
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:36.519
<v Speaker 2>like fourteen thousand for a championship game. You know that

589
00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 2>that's just that's not good. I mean, that's that was.

590
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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I think the last Saint Louis game, people

591
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<v Speaker 2>said that was a low that might have been like

592
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<v Speaker 2>one of the lowest attended games. And that was a

593
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.720
<v Speaker 2>playoff game. So yeah, there were some I mean there's Christopher,

594
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:51.319
<v Speaker 2>he traveled from DC, so there were some.

595
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is excuse me. So now you can hear

596
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<v Speaker 1>the pressure rusher. Really, she's weast were all squared away here.

597
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<v Speaker 1>Last year they had Tom Brady do his first ever

598
00:27:59.240 --> 00:28:01.599
<v Speaker 1>game announcement. I that is a good point, Like what

599
00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:04.359
<v Speaker 1>was the Brady bump last year for the USFL? Like,

600
00:28:04.680 --> 00:28:07.759
<v Speaker 1>but hey, I'm there was there was more people watching

601
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady last year than watching the Bad Moods this

602
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.000
<v Speaker 1>year play in Saint Louis at halftimes.

603
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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just telling you, yeah, I mean I don't

604
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<v Speaker 2>know what ABC does, I mean, do they bring Steven A.

605
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<v Speaker 2>Smith out there? Like what do what do they do?

606
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<v Speaker 2>Like to drum up interest? And I I don't know.

607
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<v Speaker 2>I just I was just really shocked, you know you

608
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<v Speaker 2>you sent that to me earlier today Mike's tweet. And

609
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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I almost joined Twitter this weekend, but

610
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<v Speaker 2>then I saw some cesspool stuff that I was not

611
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<v Speaker 2>interested in. But but when I saw that, I was shocked.

612
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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I couldn't believe that sat on a

613
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<v Speaker 2>Saturday night, it's a championship game on ABC, which has

614
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<v Speaker 2>had like really good ratings for their UFL games that

615
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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't even top a million. And that's that's just

616
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<v Speaker 2>that's tough to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's look here through I just real quick, I'm doing

618
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<v Speaker 1>if you're not following that due on all this. Yeah,

619
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<v Speaker 1>he kind of takes Mike Mitchell's numbers throughout the course

620
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<v Speaker 1>of the season and breaks it down. I share this out,

621
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<v Speaker 1>but you'll see down twenty one point seventy two percent

622
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<v Speaker 1>year over year, you know, ABC down, I mean everything,

623
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<v Speaker 1>ABC down ten percent, Fox down thirty percent, ESPN down

624
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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight percent. ESPN two wasn't the FS one window

625
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<v Speaker 1>because I think there was.

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<v Speaker 2>Only the one.

627
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:22.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was only one game each and whatever. But

628
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Fox really, you know, taking kind of the biggest dip

629
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:30.519
<v Speaker 1>here the Friday games go into that, right, because you

630
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:32.559
<v Speaker 1>figure if that, you know, if you're getting seven hundred

631
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to Friday, you're you know, those were generally averaging more

632
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.799
<v Speaker 1>like eight fifty to nine right during the course of

633
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:42.319
<v Speaker 1>the season last year. Anything stand out from this just

634
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I just appreciate a due kind of doing this. Obviously,

635
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>everything down, but anything stand out.

636
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Abdul might make me join Twitter because he has

637
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:54.319
<v Speaker 2>some good content here. I think what he posted is overall,

638
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Speaker 2>like we were saying, it's just showing that there's a

639
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 2>drop in interest, and I don't know why that. That's

640
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 2>why I would I would like to know why not.

641
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I do understand that, you know, there are a lot

642
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 2>of us out there who are going to watch no

643
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>matter what, so you know, we'll we'll see. But but that, yeah,

644
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.559
<v Speaker 2>when I saw those those numbers, it was very surprising

645
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:19.319
<v Speaker 2>to me, and I don't know, I don't understand like

646
00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:24.359
<v Speaker 2>why that it just overall and then and then for

647
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:27.640
<v Speaker 2>it to culminate with ABC of the issue and like

648
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 2>in the championship game, it's just I don't know. I

649
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:32.200
<v Speaker 2>want to dive into it and read a lot more

650
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 2>on it because I know we just got these numbers today,

651
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:38.799
<v Speaker 2>So there's there's probably a bigger story, uh that I

652
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:40.039
<v Speaker 2>just don't know what it is yet.

653
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, at least just a couple of my takeaways here is,

654
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:48.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, we got the big jump last year going

655
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:49.839
<v Speaker 1>in when they you know, because they had said we're

656
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:51.839
<v Speaker 1>going to merge the leagues. We want to give the

657
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:53.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, the best TV and you tell me of

658
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>this is unbearable and the pressure washing and you know,

659
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:59.119
<v Speaker 1>they said they wanted to prioritize you give the TV

660
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:01.559
<v Speaker 1>windows and that's what we had to merge everything. So

661
00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:04.079
<v Speaker 1>you saw forty versus forty one this year, and now

662
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.519
<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of those Fox Friday ones taking

663
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:09.039
<v Speaker 1>the part of that. So all to me, the biggest

664
00:31:09.119 --> 00:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>question mark will be is if they keep this Fox

665
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Friday Night experiment going on in the year two, because

666
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:19.480
<v Speaker 1>that's where Fox had the biggest drop in my opinion.

667
00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>But you do still have those forty plus you know

668
00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:24.720
<v Speaker 1>game windows, if that makes sense.

669
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:27.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just felt, you know, we've talked about it before.

670
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought Fox could have dressed it up. I thought

671
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Fox could have made it a thing. Instead, we got

672
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:37.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, Kurt Menafee, you know, messing up players names,

673
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.039
<v Speaker 2>and team names and it was just like any other thing.

674
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.279
<v Speaker 2>It just felt like it was low effort to me.

675
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 2>And then you had ABC and ESPN on the converse

676
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:47.920
<v Speaker 2>of that, who put in a lot.

677
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Now.

678
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:50.000
<v Speaker 2>I know some people didn't like all the betting stuff,

679
00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:54.319
<v Speaker 2>but they those games felt much bigger to me than

680
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:56.559
<v Speaker 2>the Fox Friday Night game, which should be the game

681
00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:58.680
<v Speaker 2>that you would think, like, that's the spotlight game, and

682
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:00.359
<v Speaker 2>that's what we thought it was gonna be. It just

683
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>really it never came to that. And yeah, I agree,

684
00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:06.440
<v Speaker 2>and I agree with pro catch here who says that

685
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:08.799
<v Speaker 2>in the chat that there should have been some kind

686
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:10.519
<v Speaker 2>of pre game thing, And that's what I thought, like,

687
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:13.440
<v Speaker 2>even if you're you're already gonna have a three hour broadcast,

688
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:15.920
<v Speaker 2>why don't you spend five to ten minutes, you know,

689
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:17.960
<v Speaker 2>telling a little bit of a story, doing a pregame,

690
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.839
<v Speaker 2>making it a thing, dress it up, and then you've

691
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:23.440
<v Speaker 2>got the game. Because the gameplay was good, the product's good.

692
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:24.799
<v Speaker 2>You got to get people to watch.

693
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 1>This is I guess we're and this will kind of

694
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>dictate the conversation here to kind of round out all

695
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 1>this is. You know, so, so where do you go

696
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>from from here? Right? And Fox wants to be in

697
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>this market because they want to own, you know, the programming, right,

698
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:44.759
<v Speaker 1>have cheap, repeatable programming, and that they have the the

699
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:47.039
<v Speaker 1>you know that they own and so I get that,

700
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:48.599
<v Speaker 1>But then when you're gonna have it and not put

701
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:50.519
<v Speaker 1>in the effort, and then you see stuff like Gordon

702
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.759
<v Speaker 1>rams here or ABC with the Connors getting I guess that.

703
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 1>My question is where does that leave Fox? And obviously

704
00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>we don't know. I saw the comment earlier. You know,

705
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Fox decide that they go in in twenty six and

706
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of they basically they kind of dictate all this.

707
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:06.519
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know where you go from here or what.

708
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:10.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what marketing strategy you come up with

709
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:12.599
<v Speaker 1>here in a dark room to kind of figure out

710
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 1>how what your game plan is for next year besides

711
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:18.079
<v Speaker 1>really overhauling and spending a lot of time and money

712
00:33:18.079 --> 00:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>to get the messaging now. And I just don't see that.

713
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I don't even know that it's it would

714
00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:25.119
<v Speaker 2>even be that expensive. It's like you've got producers for

715
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>these games, You've got people who know how to put

716
00:33:27.680 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 2>together you know, NFL broadcasts. I'm not saying that there

717
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:33.079
<v Speaker 2>was like a bunch of NFL personnel that were doing

718
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>these Fox broadcasts. I mean to me that they were

719
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.759
<v Speaker 2>mostly you know, as we used to stay in the

720
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:40.240
<v Speaker 2>TV business, they were clean broadcasts. You didn't see like

721
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:42.519
<v Speaker 2>a ton of technical mistakes. There wasn't. It wasn't that

722
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing, although that first season or that first

723
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:49.240
<v Speaker 2>game was a little bit shaky. But but yeah, I

724
00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:51.319
<v Speaker 2>don't even know that it's that expensive. You just change

725
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.799
<v Speaker 2>the format a little bit and that's free. But you've

726
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 2>got to get some some talented producers who who probably

727
00:33:57.160 --> 00:33:58.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, I would think a lot of them wanted

728
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>to do a lot more. But maybe it's just like

729
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:04.200
<v Speaker 2>it's just not they just said, let's just put this

730
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:06.240
<v Speaker 2>on and get it over with. And when you have

731
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 2>low effort things like that, or what at least appeared

732
00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:12.000
<v Speaker 2>to be low effort, it's just not going to catch on.

733
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:14.599
<v Speaker 2>It's just it would be like anyone flipping around and

734
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, watching they flip around to ESPN on Sunday

735
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.639
<v Speaker 2>afternoon and they're showing X throwing. Well, you might watch

736
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:21.880
<v Speaker 2>it for a few minutes, but you're not going to

737
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 2>watch the whole thing. I mean, there was darts on

738
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>there one day and I was like, okay, this is

739
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:28.039
<v Speaker 2>interesting for about ten minutes and then I was like, okay,

740
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:28.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna move on.

741
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think, and the RIX told me, he's like,

742
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you need to mute your mic when you're not talking,

743
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>So let me know if anyone if But like I

744
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>just I don't know who is someone has to advocate

745
00:34:41.559 --> 00:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>for this, right like someone at Foster or at ESPN,

746
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.679
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know who that is anymore. And I

747
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:50.159
<v Speaker 1>think that the fact that we as you said, you know,

748
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:55.079
<v Speaker 1>you flipped aroundside darts or saw whatever whatever the peak was,

749
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:58.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, saw x amount during the first fifteen minutes

750
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>of the thing and then decided that was enough of

751
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>it and moved on right like it peaked in the

752
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:04.800
<v Speaker 1>here let me pull it up again, you know, peaked,

753
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>so you know, I mean they're doing that, you know,

754
00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:09.679
<v Speaker 1>and they lost three hundred thousand that way. I just

755
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, if we're gone, if who's gone, Like,

756
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know who advocates or who you know,

757
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:19.519
<v Speaker 1>you need like a Sam Schwarztein or someone like in

758
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>this regime of this kind of feeling, maybe you feel

759
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>like it's advocating for the fans and more. I don't know,

760
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:27.760
<v Speaker 1>like it just it feels like we're very disconnected from

761
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.159
<v Speaker 1>this now and I just don't know where that advocation

762
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:31.119
<v Speaker 1>is going to come from.

763
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good question. And if they I guess

764
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:35.559
<v Speaker 2>also if they do it like they've done, you know,

765
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:38.400
<v Speaker 2>next year, you know, is the championship game going to

766
00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:41.559
<v Speaker 2>be on Fox? So I don't know, but yeah, you

767
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:44.440
<v Speaker 2>you there, there needs to be. It feels like to

768
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:47.320
<v Speaker 2>me now we're outsiders. We don't know what, as you said,

769
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:50.480
<v Speaker 2>what goes on in the dark room, and we don't

770
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.199
<v Speaker 2>know what these meetings are like. They're supposed to have

771
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.719
<v Speaker 2>leadership meetings this week, they're supposed to be more throughout

772
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:57.360
<v Speaker 2>the summer. But you feel like they need to bring

773
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 2>in someone who has some TV knowledge. It's not just

774
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Speaker 2>football knowledge. They have the football knowledge people, they need

775
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:07.159
<v Speaker 2>some people who have some TV knowledge who can say, listen,

776
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:09.559
<v Speaker 2>I watched all your broadcasts and here's what I think

777
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.079
<v Speaker 2>you can do better and get that and and but

778
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.960
<v Speaker 2>who's the person at Fox to do this? Eric Shanks

779
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.480
<v Speaker 2>is that he's the main guy in Fox Sports. He's

780
00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:20.320
<v Speaker 2>the guy who wanted to restart the USFL and that

781
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.519
<v Speaker 2>was his pet project and it didn't cost I mean

782
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:25.960
<v Speaker 2>for what it costs Fox again, this is it was

783
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.199
<v Speaker 2>a rounding area. It's pocket change for them, So it

784
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 2>wasn't it's not a big expense. And you know, but

785
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.199
<v Speaker 2>you but you have investors involved in this also. You

786
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:40.079
<v Speaker 2>know in this now with the USFL, it was only Fox.

787
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Then with the XFL, you had you know, the Rock

788
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.679
<v Speaker 2>and Danny, and you had the Redbird Capitol. Now you've

789
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:48.599
<v Speaker 2>got you know, those two entities together. And then somehow

790
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I guess ESPN is doing some things, but I don't

791
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:55.199
<v Speaker 2>know how financially invested they are in it. So I

792
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:59.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know what. And I see someone mentioned they're Oliver Luck.

793
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:02.000
<v Speaker 2>You could pick a lot worse people than Oliver. Look

794
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:03.800
<v Speaker 2>there you go, absolutely.

795
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:05.679
<v Speaker 1>Best the interview we ever did in one of them

796
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:09.519
<v Speaker 1>last year, the talking and you know, and like I said,

797
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of I was like, I feel like

798
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of done with a lot, Like I've climbed

799
00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 1>the mountain of I don't know, you know, like even

800
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 1>the CFL now they have a new UH, they have

801
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>a new UH commissioner, and I'm like, God, I got

802
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:23.559
<v Speaker 1>to go through the ranks again and work my way.

803
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I've done all this, But no, I do agree with

804
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Max here because you said bring in the TV people.

805
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 1>But you need, you know, you need to get and

806
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.480
<v Speaker 1>and we've seen the comments here. Talk to the Savannah

807
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Bananas people or talk to the you know, the Harlem

808
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:39.599
<v Speaker 1>Globe tribe. People will talk to me like, how how

809
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:43.079
<v Speaker 1>can you you need to sell more just as entertainment

810
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.039
<v Speaker 1>than this football. You almost need to have it more.

811
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:45.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just that product.

812
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:48.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's you know, something we've talked about too.

813
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:51.800
<v Speaker 2>You've been to games. I've been to games. It's some

814
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.960
<v Speaker 2>you go there and watch football, that's fine, but if

815
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:57.840
<v Speaker 2>you're going there for some kind of you know, game experiences,

816
00:37:57.880 --> 00:37:59.760
<v Speaker 2>which is what you need to have, you don't get

817
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 2>that a lot of places. Now I didn't go to

818
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:03.760
<v Speaker 2>all eight venues, so I don't know I can. You know,

819
00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I've been to Saint Louis and they had you know,

820
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 2>they had some stuff outside. You know, was at Memphis

821
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know they tried, but they had a very

822
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.679
<v Speaker 2>small crowd. But it's not it's not a you know,

823
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>that's a they had a good tailgating section out there,

824
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:20.079
<v Speaker 2>but there's not this you know, we're gonna go and

825
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:22.840
<v Speaker 2>have all like minor league baseball, Like there's always something

826
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:24.760
<v Speaker 2>with minor league baseball. We brought it up before, and

827
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:28.719
<v Speaker 2>like you said, Savannah Bananas, there's there's entertainment for everyone.

828
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.320
<v Speaker 2>And then oh yeah, also you've got a game I

829
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.039
<v Speaker 2>had just in in Since the twenty twenty two USFL,

830
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:38.039
<v Speaker 2>I just have not seen a whole lot of that

831
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>atmosphere game atmosphere or you know, fan atmosphere at some

832
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 2>of these games because there's just not a lot to

833
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:46.119
<v Speaker 2>do there.

834
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I know they couldn't, but even even fourteen thousand and

835
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:54.599
<v Speaker 1>Audi Field would have looked tremendously different than fourteen. I

836
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:58.159
<v Speaker 1>mean that's that's that's a completely different Yeah, and then

837
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:01.559
<v Speaker 1>that helps build and excitement, you know, I mean we

838
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:03.920
<v Speaker 1>just I know we're talking not just a championship game,

839
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:05.599
<v Speaker 1>but you know we've talked to venues and all that. Yeah,

840
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean having the right, but you don't have you

841
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.159
<v Speaker 1>see all the time if they can only get this

842
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.760
<v Speaker 1>venue in this like yeah, I'm sure they're sitting there too,

843
00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:15.159
<v Speaker 1>like we we I mean, you can't. We had one

844
00:39:15.199 --> 00:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>of the comments and said that you know, they had

845
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>talked with the people at the Roughnecks and they know

846
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.039
<v Speaker 1>that like they're like, oh, yeah, they know it's a problem.

847
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure everyone on the ground does know it's a problem.

848
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:27.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's the same thing when you work in the corporation.

849
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I Pam in the county might know that

850
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 1>there's a problem, but you need you know, Jenny the

851
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.599
<v Speaker 1>CEO to make that decision or whoever. Like it doesn't

852
00:39:35.840 --> 00:39:38.239
<v Speaker 1>That doesn't do any good that you know that the

853
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>San Antonio people know, and marketing is rough and San

854
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:46.559
<v Speaker 1>Antonio you need, but I don't continue and I just

855
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.039
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know when they run out of Karen.

856
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:53.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And and that's we talked about. Someone brought it

857
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:55.920
<v Speaker 2>up to and it's a great idea, but that's the

858
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:58.880
<v Speaker 2>problem is that you would want to have like the

859
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:02.000
<v Speaker 2>higher seeded team host you know, host a playoff or

860
00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:05.559
<v Speaker 2>host a championship. But it's it's a venue problem. And

861
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.239
<v Speaker 2>that's one of the things that Russ Brandon said that

862
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:10.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, they were trying to look at at He

863
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:13.280
<v Speaker 2>talked about venue problems. And I don't know if it

864
00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:17.239
<v Speaker 2>was city problems or if it was venue problems, but

865
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I think they want to be they want to be

866
00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.480
<v Speaker 2>more involved and be a bigger star on a bigger

867
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:26.440
<v Speaker 2>platform in some of these communities, but you have to

868
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:29.920
<v Speaker 2>have availability. And I know, you know, like this has

869
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:33.280
<v Speaker 2>happened a few times where you know, it happened with

870
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Michigan like last year and the end this year where

871
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:38.199
<v Speaker 2>even if they had one home field advantage they wouldn't

872
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:40.039
<v Speaker 2>get to play. It happened with the d C with

873
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:43.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, Audi Field this year because you're right, like

874
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:47.519
<v Speaker 2>it would have been incredible to see fourteen thousand people

875
00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:49.639
<v Speaker 2>at Audi Field. I mean it just would have been

876
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:52.880
<v Speaker 2>it would have it would have been something else. So

877
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:55.480
<v Speaker 2>they got to look at the venues and as Russ

878
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:58.199
<v Speaker 2>Brandon said, everything's on the table. So I'm going to

879
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.760
<v Speaker 2>be interested in some of these off season announcements, assuming

880
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 2>they come.

881
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:06.280
<v Speaker 1>So I'm watching, I'm watching, my bread, my breath, watching

882
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 1>so everyone can see. I'm not like, we got got

883
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.519
<v Speaker 1>years of building out there. Yeah, Christopher here, we got

884
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Audi original. Aldis here at Aldi West. Yeah. So I

885
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:18.719
<v Speaker 1>like that that they were calling Aldi West, Yeah, Sat

886
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Louis so okay. So when Russ Brandon says that, right,

887
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:29.280
<v Speaker 1>everything is on the table, we're having leadership tops, we're

888
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:33.599
<v Speaker 1>having off season talks. I what does that look like

889
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:35.960
<v Speaker 1>or does that. I don't know. That doesn't fill me

890
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:39.679
<v Speaker 1>with a tremendous sense of enthusiasm that like I like

891
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>that everything's on the table, but then that feels like

892
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:44.039
<v Speaker 1>nothing's on the table. And then I don't know if

893
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:46.360
<v Speaker 1>if registering new marks is the way I found the

894
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>one just a weekend, I can give credit here, but

895
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:52.599
<v Speaker 1>like the first comment was like they have yeah, this,

896
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>like they have trademarks for everything, like so you can

897
00:41:56.360 --> 00:42:00.280
<v Speaker 1>read into it, you can read not but I I

898
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.599
<v Speaker 1>just it doesn't excite me to still have Russ and

899
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:04.599
<v Speaker 1>Darryll and them in charge of this, Like I feel

900
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:06.760
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like I've seen what this is now.

901
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Well I would say that I don't mind them being

902
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:12.920
<v Speaker 2>in charge, but as you brought up earlier, they need

903
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:14.679
<v Speaker 2>to have somebody else has to be in that room.

904
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Somebody that can, you know, as as Max said, somebody

905
00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:21.480
<v Speaker 2>that can knows how to bring fans. They need somebody

906
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.239
<v Speaker 2>in there who knows how to fix these broadcasts, some

907
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:27.719
<v Speaker 2>of these broadcasts. So I know, I think that to me,

908
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.719
<v Speaker 2>I think they've got the football thing that they got.

909
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:32.599
<v Speaker 2>They got the football thing down, because I don't think

910
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:36.119
<v Speaker 2>anybody can complain about you know, overall like what the

911
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:39.320
<v Speaker 2>football looked like, even from the first three weeks, but

912
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:42.280
<v Speaker 2>certainly after week three, when again we talked about I

913
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.440
<v Speaker 2>think some of the quarterback issues started to show in

914
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.320
<v Speaker 2>the first three weeks and then everybody got on the

915
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:50.960
<v Speaker 2>same page. But you also can't go into it what

916
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:53.920
<v Speaker 2>we saw with the XFL, where that said Okay, we're

917
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:55.719
<v Speaker 2>going to have a team in Las Vegas and then

918
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:57.920
<v Speaker 2>they worked backwards. You can't do that because it was

919
00:42:57.920 --> 00:42:59.800
<v Speaker 2>a complete failure. You got to do it a much

920
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.519
<v Speaker 2>different way. And I think that's why they did the

921
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:05.679
<v Speaker 2>whole RFP process was to say, Okay, we're going to

922
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:08.280
<v Speaker 2>talk to these cities, make sure there's interest, make sure

923
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 2>there's the right venue, in the right situation, and the

924
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 2>right fan base. I'm trying to give them the benefit

925
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:14.960
<v Speaker 2>of the doubt here read.

926
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, and and I completely agree. I mean, that

927
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>is more how you have to do it. But again,

928
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:26.199
<v Speaker 1>it still feels like I am read and I am

929
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:28.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to get Sidney Sweeney to date me, or trying

930
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:30.599
<v Speaker 1>to get whoever to date me, you know. I mean,

931
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.599
<v Speaker 1>it's still and I'm a happily mayor maybe, but it

932
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:34.760
<v Speaker 1>still just feels like you know we're the UFL, like

933
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.440
<v Speaker 1>would you like us to come? And I don't. I

934
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.119
<v Speaker 1>think I think the CFL would have a higher stance

935
00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:41.639
<v Speaker 1>and saying like, hey, we want to host a Gray

936
00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Cup in you know, Tulsa and really blow it out

937
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 1>and bring a lot of people in then get the

938
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:49.599
<v Speaker 1>tunors going there without like I don't, like, you know

939
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like, I don't. I don't know what

940
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:53.159
<v Speaker 1>they're mean. We said this for I just don't know

941
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:53.760
<v Speaker 1>what they're selling.

942
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean maybe this maybe we have Like it's

943
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:00.000
<v Speaker 2>been what thirty years since the CFL has been here

944
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.159
<v Speaker 2>in America? Is that what we need? I know there

945
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.639
<v Speaker 2>was somebody there was who kept saying like, well, the

946
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.360
<v Speaker 2>CFL and UFL need to merge and then they could

947
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:10.559
<v Speaker 2>do that, And I was like, I don't think that's

948
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:14.880
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen. But yeah, I mean I don't know, Like

949
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:17.280
<v Speaker 2>you're right, Like that's a great question. Where do you

950
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:21.519
<v Speaker 2>go from here? Again, On the positive side, the gameplay

951
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:25.119
<v Speaker 2>is good, the structure's already in place. But on the

952
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:28.199
<v Speaker 2>negative side, you've got to get more people involved and

953
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.239
<v Speaker 2>you have to get eyeballs from casual fans. And I

954
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:33.880
<v Speaker 2>think there are a lot of us in this niche

955
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:36.760
<v Speaker 2>that they're saying like, well, we don't need the casual fans.

956
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:39.400
<v Speaker 2>This is for us. Well that's not sustainable. I mean

957
00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:41.719
<v Speaker 2>it can be for us, but it's six hundred thousand people.

958
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, watching network TV is not gonna do. You

959
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 2>can be on Evergreen TV and right now TV like

960
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:53.599
<v Speaker 2>these arena football leagues are or whatever, so which would

961
00:44:53.599 --> 00:44:55.159
<v Speaker 2>be fine, I guess, but you know you got to

962
00:44:55.159 --> 00:44:56.639
<v Speaker 2>lower your expectations after that.

963
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.800
<v Speaker 1>It is wild and I know it's different, but like

964
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the Europeian League of Football like has a TV network

965
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.039
<v Speaker 1>or has a deal and the YouTube deal and is

966
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:10.679
<v Speaker 1>adding teams and all this, and then the UFL. How

967
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:13.679
<v Speaker 1>would you grade this season of the UFL because we

968
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:15.440
<v Speaker 1>heard a lot of well, we couldn't look through it

969
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>year one because we you know, we merged the late

970
00:45:18.039 --> 00:45:19.639
<v Speaker 1>and we didn't even know we were doing. So now

971
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>you know we went through the whole year. How would

972
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you how would you rate this?

973
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, all grade on a curve because you know we

974
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:26.719
<v Speaker 2>saw it, like you said, we saw what happened in

975
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:30.079
<v Speaker 2>year one and and as as I think it was

976
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Danny Garcia or Darryl Johnson, one of the said like

977
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:34.599
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of murky. We were still trying to

978
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.519
<v Speaker 2>figure it out. They got it off the ground, so,

979
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:40.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, so to me, when I see season two,

980
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I have to give it at least a B because

981
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:49.719
<v Speaker 2>you everything, you know played out. They worked out the

982
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 2>labor strife, they worked out that issue. We got good gameplay,

983
00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:57.960
<v Speaker 2>they didn't put stuff on, they learned don't put you know,

984
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.400
<v Speaker 2>games on FS one and you know, but I know

985
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:02.440
<v Speaker 2>there were some issues with weather and things like that.

986
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:04.880
<v Speaker 2>That's out of their control. The things I thought that

987
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.559
<v Speaker 2>were in their control, I thought they handled well. So

988
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:09.719
<v Speaker 2>to me, it's got to be at least a BE.

989
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know, And I was trying to kind

990
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:18.320
<v Speaker 1>of formulate the way around this. I'm just I think

991
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:20.679
<v Speaker 1>they did a good job, right, I would agree with

992
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you and B and then we accomplished this. But going

993
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.239
<v Speaker 1>back and I'm just really trying to formulate my thoughts

994
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.320
<v Speaker 1>to kind of get out of this is I'm just

995
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.440
<v Speaker 1>afraid that like the UFL is going to end up

996
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:35.639
<v Speaker 1>being like a suits or something for like USA or

997
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:38.760
<v Speaker 1>one of these channels that's just on for like fifteen

998
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 1>years and then just doesn't and then you're like oh,

999
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize, like suits was on and then like,

1000
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm just afraid that this is going to be on

1001
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Friday nights on Fox for the next like fifteen years,

1002
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna go, well, it's cheaper than paying Gordon

1003
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:55.320
<v Speaker 1>ramsay another show, and we'll do this. I just that's

1004
00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:58.360
<v Speaker 1>my fear, and that's what I don't want. But given

1005
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:00.360
<v Speaker 1>year two, now we have that, do we just get

1006
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>a four hundred dollars super chat? Like, what's happening here? John?

1007
00:47:03.719 --> 00:47:06.639
<v Speaker 2>I think it disappeared though Steven might have been kind

1008
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:07.599
<v Speaker 2>of go for four there.

1009
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe it is a mistake, but someone's screenshot out

1010
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:15.159
<v Speaker 1>I'll take it. I'll take that in their early retirement here.

1011
00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:17.400
<v Speaker 2>You've just broken Steven.

1012
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:20.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, they say I know that Tulsa has

1013
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:21.840
<v Speaker 1>a high. Yeah, so we went through kind of all

1014
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:23.599
<v Speaker 1>of that. Do we want to do that? Do you

1015
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>want to do that really quick before we get out

1016
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:28.079
<v Speaker 1>of here? All right, so Van for a second and

1017
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:30.119
<v Speaker 1>let me pull that up because that actually would be

1018
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.360
<v Speaker 1>a good article to get into. This guy is killing

1019
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>me now.

1020
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there's a talk to me. I think

1021
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:39.719
<v Speaker 2>if you don't have two new teams, at least this

1022
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.280
<v Speaker 2>year in which we you know, we talked about before.

1023
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:46.000
<v Speaker 2>If you if you don't add some teams or you know,

1024
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:48.079
<v Speaker 2>try to fix the problems and you just go in

1025
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:51.480
<v Speaker 2>status quo. I mean, that's when you start to get sagnet.

1026
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:54.679
<v Speaker 2>And that's my concern that they say they the approach

1027
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:58.360
<v Speaker 2>is almost too conservative. It's okay to shake things up,

1028
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:00.840
<v Speaker 2>but I think there's some markets up there that this

1029
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.440
<v Speaker 2>will this would work. And you know, as Daryl Johnson said,

1030
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:06.239
<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, they're trying to find out the

1031
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:08.920
<v Speaker 2>disconnect but between some of this some of these markets.

1032
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:11.920
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I just like i'd really like to see,

1033
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, some change. You got to they need change,

1034
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:16.599
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know it has to be radical change,

1035
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.039
<v Speaker 2>but there needs to be some change. The football is good,

1036
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:24.440
<v Speaker 2>they've got to they got to catch some attention there.

1037
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:27.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm muted now. I realized I hadn't muted that whole

1038
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:29.559
<v Speaker 1>time there when I was looking at that article. But

1039
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:33.119
<v Speaker 1>this is interesting. On here, Mike just talked through kind

1040
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:36.679
<v Speaker 1>of the top top UFL markets, uh per Fox Sports,

1041
00:48:36.760 --> 00:48:39.320
<v Speaker 1>and this is on that Birmingham up here, and this

1042
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:41.800
<v Speaker 1>is this is the share kind of in that market.

1043
00:48:41.880 --> 00:48:45.079
<v Speaker 1>So I would say that the you know, if it

1044
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.400
<v Speaker 1>was New York or Seattle, that's you know, you see

1045
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>here Dallas has has a three share, you know, so

1046
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:53.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's anyway you see, Birmingham of the todd, New Orleans,

1047
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis no surprise, and there a Tulsa, A.

1048
00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Lot of you just really just use like just completely

1049
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Nord Louisville in there.

1050
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 1>VELL know, Well, what's your thoughts on this, because that

1051
00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:08.039
<v Speaker 1>at least this gives you the direction to go more

1052
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:10.440
<v Speaker 1>than just like we own the trademark. But I still

1053
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.760
<v Speaker 1>don't think that, like, you know, point aid in Louisville

1054
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:16.360
<v Speaker 1>as a reason to put a team there. What's your thoughts?

1055
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, I would one hundred percent disagree with that. No,

1056
00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm kidding. Uh No. New Orleans still is the biggest

1057
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:26.320
<v Speaker 2>surprise to me. It's like it's just crazy that the

1058
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:30.480
<v Speaker 2>two markets that get over a one rating are Birmingham,

1059
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:32.920
<v Speaker 2>which I guess people are watching on TV rather than

1060
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:36.840
<v Speaker 2>going to the games, and New Orleans, Like, I don't

1061
00:49:36.920 --> 00:49:40.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, I guess there had to have been there

1062
00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:43.760
<v Speaker 2>had to have been some some kind you know, when

1063
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:46.679
<v Speaker 2>when they they started the USFL and they started the

1064
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:51.400
<v Speaker 2>with the uh New Orleans breakers that thought, Okay, well

1065
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:53.960
<v Speaker 2>they did they did some homework here, and they know

1066
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:57.159
<v Speaker 2>that New Orleans is wanted the foot, wanted football because

1067
00:49:57.159 --> 00:49:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I think that was the original attend of the USFL.

1068
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Here's some teams. We're going to sell these franchises off,

1069
00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, in the long term. Uh but yeah, but

1070
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:09.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean when you look at Memphis, it's like a

1071
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:12.519
<v Speaker 2>two share is still not bad, but it's you know,

1072
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 2>you don't have people showing up and you're still even

1073
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:18.679
<v Speaker 2>in the markets, you're still the lowest one. So yeah,

1074
00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:21.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously no surprise with Saint Louis there, but

1075
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:23.440
<v Speaker 2>the New Orleans one just seems like such an outlier

1076
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:23.639
<v Speaker 2>to me.

1077
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:27.880
<v Speaker 1>We had a lot of anti Becked comments here and

1078
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:32.239
<v Speaker 1>I joke with you earlier. Didn't he back down followed

1079
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:35.840
<v Speaker 1>me today? So either he's leaving the UFL or just

1080
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 1>my my negative comments about Saint Louis has has finally

1081
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.119
<v Speaker 1>gotten to him. But people don't seem too happy with

1082
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:45.599
<v Speaker 1>back there. I know the problem, John, and we've taught

1083
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:49.599
<v Speaker 1>this market share and everything else is these non NFL markets,

1084
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:51.599
<v Speaker 1>it's the reason why they're not there. And yeah, so

1085
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:54.000
<v Speaker 1>you can draw a large percentage of the people there,

1086
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:57.400
<v Speaker 1>but the overall number. Yeah, it's still not this large,

1087
00:50:57.599 --> 00:50:59.320
<v Speaker 1>massive people that you're moving them there? Is that your

1088
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:00.000
<v Speaker 1>similar thoughts?

1089
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:01.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could see that. I mean, you're not going

1090
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:05.880
<v Speaker 2>to have you know, Louisville and Tulsa and New Orleans

1091
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:10.000
<v Speaker 2>probably in the league next year. But uh, you know,

1092
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:12.800
<v Speaker 2>there's been some talk with Nashville, like there's there was,

1093
00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:16.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, not I wouldn't even say rumors, but discussion

1094
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:19.679
<v Speaker 2>that maybe Memphis needs to go to Nashville. You know,

1095
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that works or not. But but yeah,

1096
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:25.519
<v Speaker 2>you're right, it's just there. There there's some outliers in there,

1097
00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:28.480
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think that necessarily means that they're outliers

1098
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:30.079
<v Speaker 2>where they're going to put a team in there. I'd

1099
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:32.360
<v Speaker 2>love to see it. I'd love to have season tickets

1100
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:35.559
<v Speaker 2>to the Louisville whoever's.

1101
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Max year had that, I think it was a D

1102
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:42.079
<v Speaker 1>plus for the obviously seeing some ratings in your D

1103
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:46.159
<v Speaker 1>plus Jenna has a B minus. Uh Max year. How

1104
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:48.840
<v Speaker 1>can you drum up excitement when you can't expand let

1105
00:51:48.840 --> 00:51:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the fans be involved. I just, to me, the hardest

1106
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>part of all that is going in the next season,

1107
00:51:53.960 --> 00:51:57.119
<v Speaker 1>and just I don't know what you're I just shouldn't

1108
00:51:57.119 --> 00:51:58.880
<v Speaker 1>know what the talking point is. Now that we've moved

1109
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:00.559
<v Speaker 1>past the merger and now that we move past the

1110
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:01.559
<v Speaker 1>rock and all that.

1111
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, I feel like if you if you don't expand

1112
00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:07.400
<v Speaker 2>and it's the same eight teams, I think you you roll,

1113
00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:09.679
<v Speaker 2>you roll the dice. You're you're running a real risk

1114
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:12.039
<v Speaker 2>of losing your core fandom too, because I think there

1115
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:13.679
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of core fans who would say, like,

1116
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.079
<v Speaker 2>you're just gonna do this again. I'm just I'm not

1117
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:18.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna be that interested, and and that that's a worry

1118
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:20.519
<v Speaker 2>to me because that that that's the end of the

1119
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:22.320
<v Speaker 2>league when you start to lose the core, because you

1120
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:24.239
<v Speaker 2>have to build from the core and then go out

1121
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:25.960
<v Speaker 2>to the casuals. And when you start to lose this,

1122
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:27.440
<v Speaker 2>that's it.

1123
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they had the comment here, and I'm doing kind

1124
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:33.519
<v Speaker 1>of better than what I had said. I don't think

1125
00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:36.039
<v Speaker 1>these shares are big enough to actually expand. These markets

1126
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:37.880
<v Speaker 1>are so small. You're getting the small share in the

1127
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:41.199
<v Speaker 1>smaller market. But that's how you're going to kind of

1128
00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:44.280
<v Speaker 1>gauge the fan. I think that's how people are gonna

1129
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.360
<v Speaker 1>they take that information, they're going to use that to

1130
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:46.840
<v Speaker 1>look for it.

1131
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're right, Yeah, you get a one point five

1132
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:52.400
<v Speaker 2>share in uh, you know, a top ten market that

1133
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:55.519
<v Speaker 2>get that you're you're talking numbers, but you're right. Yeah,

1134
00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:57.599
<v Speaker 2>these when you start to look at the like the

1135
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Nielsen markets, like for instance, you know, Louisville is forty set,

1136
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:04.960
<v Speaker 2>forty eight, forty nine. It's so that's a different for

1137
00:53:05.079 --> 00:53:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Birmingham is probably in that area as well. So these

1138
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.599
<v Speaker 2>are you know, now New Orleans, actually New Orleans I

1139
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:14.320
<v Speaker 2>think is maybe fifty one. So you're looking at, you know,

1140
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:18.119
<v Speaker 2>these mid size markets that are not necessarily the ratings

1141
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:21.679
<v Speaker 2>are good, but but overall numbers when you see them,

1142
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:25.320
<v Speaker 2>if you you you know, you put shares to actual population,

1143
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:26.559
<v Speaker 2>that's a different story.

1144
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:31.199
<v Speaker 1>I still to see so many anti backed comments here.

1145
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's really just crazy that way.

1146
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:36.599
<v Speaker 2>Well that that's fine if you want to get rid

1147
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:39.400
<v Speaker 2>of BECT, but you know, who's who's your upgrade? It's

1148
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:42.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, i'd say that on a from high school

1149
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:44.960
<v Speaker 2>to college to any pro level, Like if you want

1150
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:47.360
<v Speaker 2>to fire your coach, that's fine, but who's your replacement

1151
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:50.559
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be better, that's gonna do what he's done.

1152
00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:53.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not you know, trying to defend back.

1153
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:56.000
<v Speaker 2>He can do that himself. But to me, like there

1154
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.199
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of coaches in this league that you

1155
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:00.079
<v Speaker 2>know that you might be able to improve on, I

1156
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:02.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know if if there's one for Anthony Beck, I

1157
00:54:02.920 --> 00:54:06.360
<v Speaker 2>think there's a lot of frustration. I get that, but

1158
00:54:06.639 --> 00:54:10.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know that how. I don't know

1159
00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:13.360
<v Speaker 2>like how you're going to improve on him. Not to

1160
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 2>say there aren't great coaches out there, but you know,

1161
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:17.199
<v Speaker 2>I just can't see it.

1162
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:19.760
<v Speaker 1>And and he had a funny guy. It's all fun

1163
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:22.159
<v Speaker 1>and games firing the coach until you win two games

1164
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the next season. But you know, if it was me

1165
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:28.400
<v Speaker 1>and I had to sell this league and you got

1166
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:31.079
<v Speaker 1>rid of I don't know, a couple of coaches and

1167
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:33.559
<v Speaker 1>try to bring in someone that's got some college and

1168
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, Cachet and those markets, or I mean,

1169
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't you know, I'm not smart enough with the

1170
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:42.440
<v Speaker 1>college football brand, you know, off the top of my head,

1171
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:44.599
<v Speaker 1>But I just can't think of any other way you

1172
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:46.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of get people to go out unless you deal

1173
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:48.639
<v Speaker 1>with like Zorn and all that, with the Sea Dragon

1174
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:50.639
<v Speaker 1>or with the Dragons, like I think you got to

1175
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:52.559
<v Speaker 1>have maybe that connection then yeah.

1176
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:55.079
<v Speaker 2>But the problem is with that, as you know, like

1177
00:54:55.159 --> 00:54:57.559
<v Speaker 2>there's a reason Reggie Barlow went to Tennessee State. He's

1178
00:54:57.559 --> 00:55:00.360
<v Speaker 2>probably gonna make thirty times what he was making, you know,

1179
00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:03.159
<v Speaker 2>as a head coach in the UFL. So you're gonna

1180
00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:05.960
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to, uh, you're gonna have to spend

1181
00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:07.760
<v Speaker 2>some money to get some of that. I mean. And

1182
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:10.199
<v Speaker 2>it's not like Tennessee State's Alabama. I mean, you know,

1183
00:55:10.760 --> 00:55:14.519
<v Speaker 2>it's it's so there's there's a lot of money in

1184
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:17.760
<v Speaker 2>college coaching right now, and I don't know if the UFL,

1185
00:55:18.079 --> 00:55:20.360
<v Speaker 2>even with just eight teams, is going to try to

1186
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:23.039
<v Speaker 2>keep up with those coaches salaries like that. Because there

1187
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:24.880
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of good coach like Peyton Party, you

1188
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:26.800
<v Speaker 2>can say say whatever you want to about him. That

1189
00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:29.159
<v Speaker 2>guy is going to be a head coach somewhere on

1190
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:31.960
<v Speaker 2>a on a big level. He's a young dude. You know,

1191
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:33.800
<v Speaker 2>they didn't have a lot of success, but you look

1192
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:36.679
<v Speaker 2>at his journey just this season, what he had to

1193
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.079
<v Speaker 2>go through and what he did. It's like, man, he

1194
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:42.199
<v Speaker 2>had those guys. He had those guys playing when there

1195
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.679
<v Speaker 2>was nothing to play for and he's a young dude.

1196
00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:47.519
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, is he gonna stay in the UFL? I

1197
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:49.639
<v Speaker 2>mean he might next season. He might be a head

1198
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:52.960
<v Speaker 2>coach next season somewhere. Uh you know that. So you've

1199
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:54.800
<v Speaker 2>got to you got to spend some money if they

1200
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:56.840
<v Speaker 2>want to keep guys and get guys like.

1201
00:55:56.800 --> 00:56:00.679
<v Speaker 1>That, well they're gonna do with the defense. Do you

1202
00:56:00.719 --> 00:56:03.360
<v Speaker 1>think they're gonna just have to rebuild or open up

1203
00:56:03.400 --> 00:56:05.679
<v Speaker 1>the pocketbook? I mean that to me, you have your

1204
00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:08.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean imagine now if Sharon Harris, Shannon Harris goes,

1205
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:12.440
<v Speaker 1>it's makes it worse now that they won the championship.

1206
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you're right. I mean it's it's funny.

1207
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Or don't you say, oh, look he got this big

1208
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:21.679
<v Speaker 1>promotion because he Look look it could even happen to you.

1209
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean right, yeah, you're right because you look at

1210
00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:29.760
<v Speaker 2>the optics that were bad because Reggie Barlow left before

1211
00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:33.239
<v Speaker 2>the season and now with that same team, like the

1212
00:56:33.280 --> 00:56:36.960
<v Speaker 2>interim coach who all the players said, well we want

1213
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:39.320
<v Speaker 2>to take that interim tag off. But it's like, well,

1214
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:43.800
<v Speaker 2>how much is he going to make? You know, will

1215
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:47.480
<v Speaker 2>he follow you know, Reggie Barlow or will he come

1216
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:50.960
<v Speaker 2>back and add like more to this, you know, to

1217
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:54.679
<v Speaker 2>his coaching resume, Like what's going to be better for him?

1218
00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:57.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know, I don't, I don't. I

1219
00:56:57.159 --> 00:56:59.480
<v Speaker 2>would love to talk to somebody in the coaching community

1220
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:02.840
<v Speaker 2>to see what they really think about if if someone

1221
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 2>like Shannon Harris, who like obviously should have been coach

1222
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:07.719
<v Speaker 2>of the Year, there's no question about that, and he

1223
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:11.360
<v Speaker 2>won Coach of the Year. So it's like, does that

1224
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:14.039
<v Speaker 2>increase his resume to stay there and try to repeat

1225
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:16.880
<v Speaker 2>on that, or does he go to Tennessee State and

1226
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:20.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever position coach or what are a coordinator

1227
00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:22.199
<v Speaker 2>that he is there? So you know, I don't know,

1228
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:24.679
<v Speaker 2>but you're right, that's going to be kind of a

1229
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:29.000
<v Speaker 2>he's got he's got some decisions to make and what

1230
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:31.440
<v Speaker 2>DC could be a total rebuild and that would be

1231
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:34.199
<v Speaker 2>that would be tough for that team to have to

1232
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:36.440
<v Speaker 2>bring in a whole new staff. And then you got

1233
00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:39.199
<v Speaker 2>to wonder too, how many of those players, like a

1234
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Tom who does he want to play for and

1235
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:44.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, for a third coach. I don't know if

1236
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:44.440
<v Speaker 2>he does.

1237
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:48.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's kind of holding the cards. I mean

1238
00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I kind of like that. I like that, but Max

1239
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:53.199
<v Speaker 1>had a thing here. You know, there's no way that

1240
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you could get paid more to be the head coach

1241
00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:58.840
<v Speaker 1>in the pro league. Well, that is the UFL. I mean,

1242
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:00.000
<v Speaker 1>is the UFL get out paid?

1243
00:58:00.159 --> 00:58:00.239
<v Speaker 2>That?

1244
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:01.559
<v Speaker 1>Is that right? Is that your question?

1245
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:06.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean it's I don't know. I don't I

1246
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:09.639
<v Speaker 2>don't know, Willie like it. I don't know what the

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00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:11.920
<v Speaker 2>salary structure is. I mean, I know, I know what

1248
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<v Speaker 2>uh what? You know what Barlow? I mean, that was

1249
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:18.519
<v Speaker 2>a pretty big that was a pretty big pay raise

1250
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:20.360
<v Speaker 2>for him to be head coach there. And that is

1251
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 2>a and that's a school who's actually financially struggling right now,

1252
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:25.920
<v Speaker 2>and he knew it going in. So I don't know

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00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:28.559
<v Speaker 2>what the what the staff pay is like, but you

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00:58:28.599 --> 00:58:32.519
<v Speaker 2>know there's I don't and so you got to understand,

1255
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:34.639
<v Speaker 2>like are you going to compare that to the UFL structure?

1256
00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Like what that going to look like? And as we

1257
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:40.199
<v Speaker 2>talked about before, also what does it mean for you know,

1258
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:42.159
<v Speaker 2>when you're talking about a coaching resume and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>enhance that move up.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything else we want to talk about here we got

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00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:49.199
<v Speaker 1>just a couple of minutes left. Anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say that one of the reasons

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00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:56.360
<v Speaker 2>that I got into YouTube was because of you and

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00:58:56.360 --> 00:58:58.559
<v Speaker 2>and you know, because I'd watched you a lot, and

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00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:00.519
<v Speaker 2>you did a lot of you know, in interviews and

1266
00:59:00.559 --> 00:59:03.639
<v Speaker 2>everything else, and you were like one of the reasons

1267
00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:06.880
<v Speaker 2>that and you were super supportive of me, like starting out.

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00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:10.280
<v Speaker 2>In fact, you were on the first episode that I did,

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<v Speaker 2>which by the way, I think still has like twenty

1270
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:14.760
<v Speaker 2>thousand views, and I thought like, okay, I'm about to

1271
00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 2>blow YouTube up. It didn't really kind of sustain that way.

1272
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:19.719
<v Speaker 1>It never does. They give you the line.

1273
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:22.079
<v Speaker 2>But but you, like you were like one of the

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00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:24.840
<v Speaker 2>like kind of champions in my corner, and you always helped,

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00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:26.760
<v Speaker 2>You always gave me good advice, and we got to

1276
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:29.119
<v Speaker 2>be friends over this. You know. That was in December

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<v Speaker 2>of I think twenty twenty three, or yeah, or twenty yeah,

1278
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:37.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, I guess so, or maybe even twenty

1279
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty two. It's been it's been a few years.

1280
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was back. The twenty two was when, you know,

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00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:44.159
<v Speaker 1>that was when Andy Murray kind of joined the world

1282
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:46.119
<v Speaker 1>in you and kind of that was really when we

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00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:48.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of I think just a lot more people got

1284
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:50.480
<v Speaker 1>into the space with the U. I mean the USFL

1285
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:54.920
<v Speaker 1>BABA twenty two is I think the biggest.

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00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:56.760
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent you ever had, Sinse Yeah, and it

1287
00:59:56.840 --> 00:59:58.800
<v Speaker 2>was just it was it was fun to do, and

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00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:01.119
<v Speaker 2>I just continued to do it, and I just you know,

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01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I always appreciate your support and certainly appreciate your friendship.

1290
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:07.800
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'll never publish the text that we

1291
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:10.840
<v Speaker 2>My promise to you is I'll never publish the text

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01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:12.880
<v Speaker 2>that we send to each other. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>No, well, no, I appreciate it, and it's just yeah,

1294
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm I mean, I'm burnt out. John probably knows that,

1295
01:00:18.679 --> 01:00:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and the people and you know, at least it made

1296
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:26.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense to the beginning of the CFL

1297
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:28.360
<v Speaker 1>season coming out here and the fact that we're not

1298
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:30.039
<v Speaker 1>going to be here for Great Cup and we're not

1299
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:31.440
<v Speaker 1>going to go do that. That made a lot of

1300
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:34.920
<v Speaker 1>sense and that made that decision easy. And this summer

1301
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:37.159
<v Speaker 1>is terrible for me. And it's not fair that the

1302
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:39.679
<v Speaker 1>people listening to the show to expect us to have

1303
01:00:39.880 --> 01:00:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, full your watching, or you know, to expect

1304
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:44.920
<v Speaker 1>me to have a full rewatch or be informed and talk.

1305
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:47.360
<v Speaker 1>It's just kind of getting to the point where it's

1306
01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:49.719
<v Speaker 1>not fair and I never want to be like the

1307
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.760
<v Speaker 1>stephen A. Smith playing not to that level, but like

1308
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the playing solitaire at the game and like not. You know,

1309
01:00:57.800 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 1>it's really hard to talk about this stuff when you're

1310
01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:02.760
<v Speaker 1>not fully mbressed, and I feel like I've kind of

1311
01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:05.719
<v Speaker 1>cheated my way through that the last year or so,

1312
01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:08.639
<v Speaker 1>just kind of trying to rely on Jason Hussey a

1313
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:10.599
<v Speaker 1>lot last year with the CFL and then you and

1314
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:13.280
<v Speaker 1>everything with the UFL right now. So it's just gotten

1315
01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:15.119
<v Speaker 1>to a point where I don't think it's fair to

1316
01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:17.599
<v Speaker 1>the fans and everything else. So yeah, people are like, oh,

1317
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it's just like, yes, it's said the last episode of film.

1318
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:25.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like, what's happening here? But anyway, so I yeah,

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01:01:25.519 --> 01:01:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I think we'll see. I mean, if they come out

1320
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:30.920
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow and say the league's going the way, But I don't.

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01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I just don't want there to be that expectation that

1322
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:36.360
<v Speaker 1>we're coming back on. So John will continue to do

1323
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:38.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff on his channel and like I said,

1324
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:40.320
<v Speaker 1>off the top, but we'll promote kind of anyone else

1325
01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:42.679
<v Speaker 1>new with that. But it's just not fair to the people,

1326
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:45.400
<v Speaker 1>and I don't have the time to do six interview

1327
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:49.079
<v Speaker 1>two and a half hour shows anymore like it was fun.

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01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was a really fun time and that

1329
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<v Speaker 1>was it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well again, I appreciate everything that you've done, and you know,

1331
01:01:56.639 --> 01:02:00.480
<v Speaker 2>you introduced me to this whole YouTube world and yep,

1332
01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:03.679
<v Speaker 2>and we just have to say, yep, salute to you man.

1333
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:06.760
<v Speaker 2>It's it's been fun and I appreciate you this whole season,

1334
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:08.440
<v Speaker 2>like having me on and we got to talk to

1335
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:11.840
<v Speaker 2>UFL you know, online and offline. So I appreciate that.

1336
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:13.719
<v Speaker 2>It was it really was fun.

1337
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Ah yes, says everyone saying goodbyes as the yeah, as

1338
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the pressure washers here. But I will say so I've

1339
01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:22.280
<v Speaker 1>left everyone if you've made it to this point, I've

1340
01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:25.239
<v Speaker 1>left everyone a little boats present here at partying gift.

1341
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:28.960
<v Speaker 1>John knows about this last week and we could change this,

1342
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:32.079
<v Speaker 1>but this is just the gift that is always going

1343
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:36.559
<v Speaker 1>to give. And so as we know, the the UFL,

1344
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:39.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, football league doesn't own UFL dot com. I

1345
01:02:39.199 --> 01:02:42.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's a shipping line, right, It's like United freight line.

1346
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:46.000
<v Speaker 1>And they also don't all now, so their website is

1347
01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:51.079
<v Speaker 1>the UFL dot com. So I have purchased UFL football

1348
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:54.360
<v Speaker 1>dot Com and if you go type that in right now,

1349
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I left you a little present. So if anyone and

1350
01:02:56.760 --> 01:02:58.400
<v Speaker 1>if anyone ever wants to get ahold of that, but

1351
01:02:58.840 --> 01:03:01.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll change that, maybe we'll do other stuff with it.

1352
01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:05.480
<v Speaker 1>But John, I really appreciate it. We'll still talk and

1353
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:07.320
<v Speaker 1>like I said, if anyone ever wants me to come

1354
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:10.559
<v Speaker 1>on or anything. If anyone and you might say read

1355
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:12.440
<v Speaker 1>we don't want to ever see again, and that's great too,

1356
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:14.639
<v Speaker 1>but I'll still be I just don't want the pressure

1357
01:03:14.679 --> 01:03:15.039
<v Speaker 1>of doing this.

1358
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:19.360
<v Speaker 2>But no, you will definitely be on my when you're available.

1359
01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I will definitely have you on.

1360
01:03:21.480 --> 01:03:26.159
<v Speaker 1>And don't what was I gonna say to Streamyard definitely

1361
01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:30.079
<v Speaker 1>already charged me. I think it was yesterday for this month.

1362
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:32.079
<v Speaker 1>So I'm so glad. I'm like, damn it. We couldn't

1363
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:35.480
<v Speaker 1>even get through one more episode. I'm the streamyrd account.

1364
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:39.599
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I really appreciate it. Go check out John's channel.

1365
01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:43.679
<v Speaker 1>We'll see everyone. Be nice and you know, like online

1366
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:46.519
<v Speaker 1>and stuff and just be nice to people. All right,

1367
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:48.960
<v Speaker 1>We'll see you guys. How do I get out of here?

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<v Speaker 2>All right,