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Now let's dive in to today's episode. I like to
welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Karen Bell you, hey, Alex, thanks for having me back.
So thankful to be here.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for flying down from the great
White North.
Speaker 1: Yes, to come down.
Speaker 3: So white right now, but yeah, thank you careing up.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming down to Next Level Soul Studios.
Speaker 2: We've been busy.
Speaker 3: We've been so busy and having so much fun. I
feel like you're my new best buddy.
Speaker 1: Ah, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Have so much time together in the last few days.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's the intensity with the productions and things that
we're doing together. Yes, which we'll talk a little bit
about in a bit. But yeah, it's intensity of like
you're being in the room ten hours, twelve hours, just
working with somebody.
Speaker 2: It's a filmmaking. That's what we do, is filmmaker.
Speaker 1: The carney is now you're a carne now. Oh yeah, yes,
even now you're a carneie now. So that's what happens
when you go on a set is like you bring
a group of people that you never knew and they're
putting them all together, and then you're going through war together.
And then you have all this intensity and you do
that for a month, a week, a few days, it
depends and then you just band.
Speaker 3: There's a bond that happens. So I was thinking this morning,
I'm like, oh, I'm gonna be really sad to leave tomorrow, right.
Speaker 1: And you see them and you see them ten years later,
you see them ten years later.
Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, dude, it's like I remember that time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there is a there's a beautiful thing about it.
But we'll talk about that stuff afterwards. But you so,
for people who don't know you, you've been on the show
a couple of.
Speaker 3: Times, I have, I think this is number three.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is the third time you've been on the show. Yes,
and call everybody for if they haven't seen the other episodes.
Speaker 2: Just a quick little bit about you as.
Speaker 1: A channeler, as an intuitive and Sarah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I'm my name is Karen Bell. Obviously, I'm
a clairvoyant and a channeler and I'm from Canada and
I've been doing. I've been doing intuitive work for about
twenty years. And so the way that started, if people
don't know my story, is that I was working as
a makeup artist at that time when I started to
receive these very unusual impressions about people. I started having
psychic impressions while they were sitting in my chair and
I was doing their makeup, and so that's how it
really started. Started really small. That got me really curious
about intuition and psychic ability and spirituality and consciousness, and
so I just started studying. And around that time I
started giving free readings, just more as an experiment for myself.
So it was just like I would put out on
Kojiji at the time, you know, free readings. It was
just really a test alex to see if this was
a thing. It was a thing, So the path unfolded.
I got really interested in mediumship, started having mediumistic experiences,
and then that led into channeling because I started studying
trance mediumship, which is basically mediumship in an altered state.
And then SARAHI, who's one of my guides, she came
through probably late twenty seventeen twenty eighteen in a morning meditation.
I just became aware of this presence to my left
hand side, and it just looked like a glowing orb
of light at first, so I didn't really understand that
this was a being. Took a little bit of time
to get there, but it was very similar to the
spirit world where I would start to receive these telepathic communications,
and so I just started writing down what she was saying,
and that's really how it started. And then it evolved
into me actually vocally channeling her. That started about three
years ago. So it's been a really interesting journey, not
something I planned. Everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you were five year old, was like, do
you know what I want to be a channel when
I grow up?
Speaker 3: Exactly? I was like, I wanted to be an artist.
I want to be a musician. That was my life
plan and it took a turn and I love it.
It's my greatest passion. But it's just funny how you
start out doing something and you really have no clue
where life is taking you exactly right, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, this is not what I envisioned, but you just
show up and your guide and you're right it.
Speaker 2: Feels so it's my bliss.
Speaker 1: I love doing this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really do love doing this work. But I
didn't expect it.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing, And I think that's an important
thing for people to realize, because if people are feeling
lost or that they don't really know what's happening, it
doesn't mean that you're off track, right, It could just
mean that you haven't fully blossomed yet. And so when
I look back, I see and I think you do too,
how everything just unfolded perfectly, and there are these little breadcrumbs,
you know, all the way, just leading me to this point.
But at the time sometimes I was really confused. I
was like, I don't really know.
Speaker 1: I don't want this bread. I don't want this bread,
I don't want cars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, where are we going, universe? I don't really understand this, right,
And so eventually, looking back on it, you see you
were guided the entire time, and there were reasons why
you met certain people and why you were placed in
the certain positions or had certain experiences. You realize that
looking back, but in the moment sometimes it can be
very confusing.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So you have a very deep, obviously a very
deep connection with Sarai I do, Yeah, is there a
moment in recent history where you doubted your connection with her?
Speaker 3: Well, I think in the beginning I did, because again
the way that I think of our guides and even
you know, any being that we're connecting with, it's like
you're forming a relationship, and it's the same as just
forming a human relationship, like it requires trust and it
requires your actual human self what Sarah calls your human avatar,
to have enough experiences so that you start to trust.
So it took some time. And when I look back
on the experience of her just very gently appearing just
as a light, that was a very gentle presence, just
more as a sensation. So she didn't show up like
I'm a being and this is what you're gonna be
doing and you're gonna be channeling me. It wasn't abrupt.
It was very gentle, and so it took time to
develop that trust of Okay, I am this is a
real experience. And I think that when I started to
see the transformation with people that I would channel four
is when I started to really deeply trust because I
was like, Okay, something bigger is happening here. Again, I'm
not this isn't me doing this right, this is something
so much bigger, And I mean, I'm just so grateful,
But yeah, there have been definitely moments where it's I
think it's just taken time to evolve into this.
Speaker 1: This is a thing. I think this is a fear
that most channelers have, not all, but I think at
a certain level, of a certain amount of time, this
doesn't this fear doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, but do you
ever like are in front of a bunch of people
and all of a sudden, you're like, I got a channel, Like,
is something going to show up?
Speaker 3: Like? Sit?
Speaker 1: How does that work?
Speaker 3: Well? I've often had that before I do some sort
of event. I'm like, are you going to show up? Sir?
I like, seriously, But I mean I had a lot
of experience leading up to channeling. I had a lot
of experience giving mediumship demonstrations. So I'm so grateful that
I found a spiritualist church and I was able to
develop mediumship in that environment because it was a safe environment.
But I had so many experiences of that exact thing
what you were saying about, Like God, I hope you
know when I I hope when I stand up in
front of this group of fifty people, that somebody comes
through right to let alone. I hope that it's accurate,
and I had practice leading up to that, so I
definitely understand what you're saying. But now I'm to the
point again where I've had so many experiences. There's never
been a time when she hasn't shown up, and so
I have no reason to think that she's not going
to show up when I need her.
Speaker 1: So is there a part of your human self that
still struggles with this part of your life?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Because what I have experience, and I think many
people will relate to this, is that as you go
through this spiritual awakening experience, and as you start to
shift and heal and grow and change internally, then a
lot of external things start to shift and drop away.
So relationships and things like, things that are no longer
a match for you start to shift. And I think
I knew when Sir I started coming through like vocally,
I mean, so I was no longer just sitting by
myself in meditation, just you know, receiving guidance and it
was just for me. But when I started to be
more public with it and I started to really feel
that this was my calling, there was a moment where
I knew that there was a lot that was going
to change, right, And so I think that's what I
struggled with and what I still sometimes struggle with is
just like the part about, Okay, I have to be me,
I have to be authentic and share my authentic experience.
This is what I'm experiencing that I channel this being.
Not everybody gets that, not everybody resonates with it, but
that doesn't mean that. You know, if I were to
forego this path just for the sake of keeping everybody
happy or comfortable, you know, I would just hate my life. Right,
So I think I'm at the point where I just
have to keep stepping into it and even just facing
that fear of change, or facing that fear of you know,
not belonging or whatever it is, and just let everybody
have their own opinion. And you know, the fulfilling aspect
is well, at least I'm at peace with myself.
Speaker 1: So is there ever a moment that Sarah said something
to you that you just did not want to hear?
Speaker 3: Oh, that is such a good question. Let me think
about that.
Speaker 1: Because she's truthful.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you know what comes to mind is,
as I have stepped into this, it was sort of
like an explosion, Alex, like it was sort of like
I again, I feel like there was a moment where
I had a choice point like Okay, are you going
to do this or are you going to not? And
I really felt her pull or her guidance, like this
is really your calling. But again I felt that hesitation
of like okay, but like that means that I'm going
to be out there doing this, right, So I guess
that's what comes to mind is just again that hesitation
of Okay. If she's really calling me to do this
and I say yes, yeah, then what's going to happen?
But thankfully everything has been so positive. I mean, I've
only been doing this for a little over three years,
and I've had the most amazing opportunities, Like being here
with you is an amazing opportunity. I've had other incredible opportunities,
and so I kind of know that this is the
right path just because of again the incredible amount of
flow that started to unfold in my life when I
said yes to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also just for people to know it's like,
you know, we've spent the last few days together and
you've channeled a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot
of channeling and probably.
Speaker 3: More channeling than I've ever done in like period.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not the only one. Angie was here, Genevieve
was here. Like, we have a lot of people who
come and do our courses, and when they're here, it's
like it's a boot campling. All right, Yeah you're a channeler.
Speaker 3: Let's let's see to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see how you're doing.
Speaker 3: There was only one night and was it last night
of the night before where I started to fade at
the end of it, But like, I.
Speaker 2: Think it was a first day, your first day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I did pretty good, but definitely
towards the end of the day, I was starting to
be like, and I got back to the hotel and
I was like, I am really tired right now.
Speaker 2: But it pushes you.
Speaker 3: It was great though. It kind of like pushed me
to see, Okay, how much can I do? Right?
Speaker 2: And you are free to leave at any time?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, locking me in the room saying ch channel, channel,
channel No. It was great because and I think I
told you this, but I wouldn't have been able to
do that maybe two years ago, because when she first
started coming in, it's a lot so exhausting. I would
channel for an hour and then have to I remember
needing to go lie down for about three hours, so
again my body had to build up the capacity to
just allow that energy broadcast to come through. So it
was actually really cool to see how long I could
channel while I've been here.
Speaker 1: Well, if there's a channeler that wants to come on,
we put them to the test here.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: And it's fascinating to watch because when we were building
these courses together, our mastery courses together, we kind of
put it together to get us you know, we were
sitting down organizing things, and then channel. You just channeled
most of the courses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean the second course we didn't even
plan really, you know, the second course. We were just like.
Speaker 1: Having lunch and we're like, hey, let's.
Speaker 3: Let's what do you think of maybe just doing another one.
I'm like, yeah, that sounds good, and I mean literally
just channeled it without as.
Speaker 1: You showed up the next day and we're like, these
are I think this is what we could talk.
Speaker 2: We'd like emailed a couple of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was in the morning. I got up early yesterday morning.
I meditated. I was like, SORRAI, what do you want
to talk about? She gave me a list, I email
it to you, and then all of a sudden, we're
like doing this, whereas the other one I was thinking
a lot, planning, preparing, you know, trying to think of
the concept for like a month before, and it was
just hilarious that this.
Speaker 1: Just it went out the window of a sudden.
Speaker 3: And I bet that it'll be like you know the
one that like people are like whoa, right, because it
was just when you tend to be in the flow
like that, don't you find that you get the best
results sometimes when you're just like, well.
Speaker 1: You let go because you've let go of all the
preconceived notions of what it is you have, you have
no attachment.
Speaker 3: To outcome exactly. I think that's like I.
Speaker 1: Don't really have an attachment outcome this work. Yeah, I
just put it out there and see what happened. So
I think you and I when we were creating this
stuff together, it was just kind of like, hey, let's
let's just put this together and see what happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's a good point. It's like, well,
let's just try it and see what happens. And I
think that's good for everyone to hear too, is like,
you know, you can just try something right and if
it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: It's not live.
Speaker 3: At least you try it right. So I'm so glad
that we did that and we followed that call.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we have the two master courses that we
did together. Is one about finding your soul's blueprint and
the other ones about tapping into your intuition. So to
talk about intuition for a second, has there ever been
a time when following your intuition led you somewhere painful
or confusing?
Speaker 2: Because we always look at it, but oh, the good
instincts trying to protect you, and these instincts.
Speaker 1: Are all about that, but they might be guiding you
in a painful path because that's the path.
Speaker 2: You need to be on.
Speaker 3: So sure, well, I mean one that.
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and now back to the show.
Speaker 3: I have a few stories about that, but one that
really I mean, the first experience, a really strong experience
of intuition happened and I was working as a makeup
artist and I loved my job. I really had no
reason to leave. I thought I'd be doing that forever.
But I started to have this subtle feeling in the
background that it wasn't a fit for me. And I
was so confused because I was like, but I like
this and this fits me and it fits my personality
and it's what I always envision myself doing, so why
would I leave it? And then my soul was over
here saying, yeah, but it's time to go. But it
wasn't giving me the why. Wasn't saying like why you
need to go. It was just a feeling like, Okay,
I needed to leave. So I did what we all do.
I ignored it as you do. I was just like, yeah,
I'm just going to ignore this feeling because it doesn't
make sense. I'm confused, So I ignored it. But what
happened was my body started speaking to me. So I
started getting sick and I started losing weight, and I
just was like having this response so much so that
I had to take time off work. I had to
just stop and just go on a bit of a
leave so I could address my health. And thankfully, when
I did that and I had quiet time by myself,
I was like, oh, that really was my intuition, because
all of a sudden, when I was away, I just
felt better and I don't know, I felt more expansive.
So when I finally decided that I was going to
follow that voice, it was really interesting because all of
those physical symptoms disappeared and my health came back and
I was fine. But it was really confusing because it
didn't make sense. And to be honest, it didn't real
It didn't really make sense until a few years later.
It wasn't like, Okay, I made the decision and then
it all made sense again. It was like, but I
look back now, and I think, well, I needed to
leave that job to have a quieter environment so I
could start to study what I'm doing now. And if
I hadn't left that sort of busy environment, which you know,
there was a lot of activity and a lot of
external stimulation all the time, so there was less focus
on inner state. So if I hadn't left that, then
I probably wouldn't be doing what I do now.
Speaker 1: Was there an emotional cost to becoming who you are now?
Speaker 3: An emotional cost because you.
Speaker 1: Followed your your bliss? It wasn't an easy path.
Speaker 3: It was really hard.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're a.
Speaker 2: Channeler, for God's sake.
Speaker 1: This is not something that's like doctor lawyer, channeler that
it's not a path that most people take, so I
have to imagine there's some challenges there. So what emotional
cost or costs in general that this going down your
authentic path, your soul blueprints, your your soul's purpose is path,
because not everyone agrees with it in your world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well definitely, I mean definitely, Yeah, there's all sorts
of things. I mean, I think of there was a
lot of fear that came up because again, and this
is really interesting and this isn't unique to me, but
often our souls are calling us into uncertainty in order
to get us to trust. And so I've always thought
that one of my main life lessons is trust. And
so again that idea, Okay, just leave this job where
you get a secure paycheck and you have the vacation
and you know, blah blah blah. You know, that was confusing.
But then it also invoked fear because it's like, well,
I don't know what I'm doing really, and I didn't
know for many years how the path was going to unfold.
I never at that time, I was giving intuitive readings,
but I never felt called to do that full time.
I actually didn't feel called to do that full time
until just a few years ago, it was just like,
you know, it just wasn't my calling. It felt more
like I was supposed to be studying and learning and developing,
but not really you know, jumping into it. So there
was a lot of fear of uncertainty. And I still
sometimes feel that because I still sometimes feel like this
path is expanding, but I don't exactly know where she's
guiding me. I mean, I have a lot more trust
now in Saran and my intuition, but yeah, fear of
uncertainty and then that sense sometimes, you know, I've lost
friends definitely that don't understand what I do right, or
don't agree yeah, or don't agree they don't get it,
or think it's a little bit outside the box, which
it is, you know, but some people just don't resonate
with that. But thankfully, Alex, you know, when I've had
people that don't resonate and leave my life, I've been
so so blessed to discover that people are drawn in
that are the complete opposite, that completely love it, get it,
support me, love me, love Saraye. And I think I've
had more of an influx of that than I have
the letting go but that's not to say that the
letting go wasn't hard, right. So sometimes there's a cost
to being your authentic self, right, and so you have
to find courage within you to just ask yourself how
important is this? Like to me, it was really important
and it still is for me to just be me
because I have to live with me, right, So if
I don't feel like I'm being truthful or honest or authentic,
then you know, I'm not going to be happy in
my day to day life. So that's always been important
to me.
Speaker 1: Well, and following your path and following your soul's purpose.
Is there something unexpected that you had to let go
of that you didn't even think about?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question. Yeah, something unexpected that I
had to let go of. Well, there's been a lot
of things. I mean, I think I've had to let
go of my attachment to certain outcomes because again, there
was a part of me in my twenties that I
did I did really want just a simple life and
not a lot of attention and just you know, I
just wanted to work, go to work and come home
and have dogs and right's you know. Yeah, So I guess, my, my,
what I've had to let go of is just this
this vision of what I thought my life would be.
But the thing is, like, what I'm doing now I
could never have envisioned. And so sometimes when people are
thinking about, you know, well, I don't know what my
what my dream is or my purpose is. Most sometimes
that's because from where you are in this moment, it
would be possible for you to understand or envision where
you're going. So I've had to let go of attachment outcomes.
I guess it's a long winded save way of saying that.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, because I mean, we're talking
a lot about our soul's purpose. Yeah, following you intuition.
Speaker 2: I wish that a lot of the.
Speaker 1: Leaders around the world would follow the same passion. Oh man,
wouldn't that be listening to their inner higher self?
Speaker 3: And it would be a different planet.
Speaker 1: It'd be different, But we'll get there eventually. Yes, But
what is what is your take? What has Arived said
about And I'll ask her when she comes on. Yeah,
but like, what's your feeling about where we're going? Because
there's so much fear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so much fear and there's a lot.
Speaker 1: Of chaos going on, and there's more chaos happening on
a daily basis.
Speaker 3: I know, it just seems like it's just avalanching, doesn't
it like snowballing. Yeah, well, I can only relate it,
relate that collective journey of what we're all going through
to like my individual journey. And and what I would
say is that when I look back at some of
the most chaotic or difficult times, although I hated it
in the moment and would have wanted to be out
of it, it was those moments that actually led to
my awakening experience and led me into what I'm doing now. So,
for example, I had a really difficult time in you know,
twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and that's what got me started
meditating every single day. Like that's when I committed to meditation.
So in terms of where we're going, well, I'm not sure.
But this amplification of chaos, I feel like maybe there's
purpose in it, and maybe that's the reason it's like
to get people to wake up, because sometimes we don't
wake up until things get really hard and we have
to search somewhere for those answers, right, And for me,
that was searching inside myself or asking those huge questions
like who am I? And why the heck am I
on this planet? Right? So I think some of the
chaos is inviting us to ask those questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, we get dropped into that video
game and it's a very chaotic scenario. Yes, and we're
just trying to figure ourselves out, yes, exactly, figure our
part in it.
Speaker 3: And it takes time. It doesn't always happen overnight.
Speaker 1: So you've mentioned awakening a few times. Is there something
is awakening, something you choose, or something that happens to us?
Speaker 3: Ooh, another good question.
Speaker 4: For me.
Speaker 3: It was something that happened to me, and then once
it happens to you, then I think it's a day
to day choice, right, because there's the experience of awakening
I had. I've had a few different experiences that were
not something that I chose, but just sort of happened
in my life. I had my first mystical experience when
I was nineteen, when I separated from my body and realized,
you know that my consciousness or my spirit was separate
from my body. That just happened. I didn't choose that,
but I mean that's the seed. So that's the seed
that then continually it's like, well, what are you going
to do with that information or what are you going
to do with that experience? Are you going to ignore
that that happened and just go back to your day
to day life or you're going to actually take that
in and ask yourself what that means. So I think
it's a combination of those two things you.
Speaker 1: Were mentioning, you know, awakening and alignment, But alignment is
asked for a word that's kind of misunderstood a little bit.
Are people misinterpreting alignment as for comfort?
Speaker 3: Ooh yeah, some are. Yeah, I mean it's that difference.
Here's the thing. I think our soul, as I said,
I really think our because our soul is here for
expansion and evolution, that part of that is leading you
into a zone that is not comfortable, so outside of
your comfort zone basically, And so I think that can
be a little bit confusing because it's like, Okay, your
intuition gives you an idea that feels uncomfortable. That doesn't
mean that you're not supposed to do that, right, So
it can be really confusing. I think we just need
to get out of our heads and feel the energy
in our bodies when it comes to that question, because
it's like alignment is something that you feel, it's not
something so much that you think about. It's like when
someone is moving forward towards their passion and feeling what
their passion is, well, then they feel that that alignment
inside themselves. Right, But that doesn't mean that you're not
going to be led somewhere that's not comfortable and that
you're not going to feel that discomfort sometimes.
Speaker 2: And I think that's what's happening to all of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going into a space of discomfort discomfort, yeah, completely,
And that's the only time you really.
Speaker 3: Move in life exactly. I mean, if everything we're comfortable,
then you don't have to do anything right, you don't
have to expand you don't have to ask those questions.
So and I think I was joking with you this
week because I was saying that, like, Okay, your soul
moves you into that that zone that sound comfortable, and
so you follow the call and you do the thing,
and you face the fear and you dissolve it and
then it's almost like the soul is just playing a
funny game and then the zone just expands some more,
and then you're called to move into it again. So
it's almost never ending, this experience of expansion on the
spiritual journey. But I mean, when you really ask yourself
what's happening in those moments of expansion, it's usually you're
being caught. You're being asked to look at some sort
of limiting belief or something inside yourself that is maybe
creating that fear or that discomfort, and then you have
to dissolve that and that's when your soul can express
itself through you more fully beautifully.
Speaker 1: Now I have to ask you, because we talked a
little bit about intuition. Can someone be deeply intuitive but
yet deeply unconscious?
Speaker 3: Ooh, deeply intuitive and deeply.
Speaker 1: Uncy Listen to them their gut, but they are completely
in on the three D world?
Speaker 3: Right? Well, I mean that raises the question of like
instinct versus intuition, because I think those two are two
different things. But I mean, yeah, I think someone I
think there are people that cannot be spiritually awakened and
and not have a sense of who they truly are,
but just have a good sense of their inner compass
and just move forward in that way. I mean, sometimes
we see that, I think in the world through people
that you'd least expect, like having a lot of success
or a lot, right, And you're like, hmm, like why
is that person Maybe they don't have the.
Speaker 4: Best values or that's whatever it is in the world
with that part, right, but that that person seems to
be following some sort of inner guidance that's creating you know, Oh,
there's a lot.
Speaker 1: Of billionaires in the world that that created something out
of nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're not particularly maybe the nicest people their companies.
Speaker 3: Not exactly what I'm talking about, but.
Speaker 2: It's something guide to them in that exactly.
Speaker 1: So they're playing a part in this play exactly, but
without them.
Speaker 3: Without them really recognizing that they are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of fascinating.
Speaker 3: Totally fascinating. Yeah, and it's something to learn from too,
I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, even like you look you look at
history and you like, obviously some dictators and hit throughout history.
Speaker 2: You know, someone was guiding Alexander.
Speaker 1: The Great right, right, you know, to do what he did,
and and Genghis Khan and stuff like that. So they
were completely i'd say disconnected from higher conscious rates, right, right, Man,
were they driven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. I mean it's it's an interesting exploration
for sure.
Speaker 1: It's a deeper, deeper, philosophical conversation.
Speaker 3: On the plane tomorrow, I'll be like the things that.
Speaker 2: I would love to bring Saray in.
Speaker 1: I would have all sorts of questions to ask her
about the world and all sorts of different things.
Speaker 2: So can you explain to.
Speaker 1: People how you do it, what you do, what's your process,
and what they could expect when they come in because
you have this emotional support Crystal.
Speaker 3: Emotional support Crystal. My two tools here everyone, emotional support
Crystal and my essential oil.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor
and now back to the show.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so yeah, when I channel STRAI I actually
do use the central oils. And the way that I
use them is it's sort of something I do every
morning when I meditate and I'm practicing my connection with Sarra,
I use that scent as an anchor. It helps my
body memorize that altered state. And then when I'm channeling
for other people, I use the same oil and it
just helps my body understand that this is what we're
doing now, We're shifting our state so I do channel
in an altered state of consciousness. All that means is
my brainway state is slowing down. And when Sarah comes in,
I mean you've experienced it this week. She tends to
offer a message, but it's really experiential. It's almost like
a meditation most of the time. So she guides people
into the experience of their true self, not as a concept,
but as an actual somatic experience and as a state.
So I invite everyone to she participate. Right, She's asking
you to close your eyes or breathe deeply, and you
want to follow along, then I would invite you to
do that and then just notice what you experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is almost a transmission exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you do feel the energy coming in and
you can feel the shift.
Speaker 1: Oh and I've definitely feel some energy this week with Sarah.
And she's a very lovely, lovely energy that comes through.
And she hasn't knocked me on my butt yet.
Speaker 3: No, she's very loving, she's a very motherly presence, right,
and she can be funny. I don't know that she's
like and that actually surprises me with you of all people,
that she hasn't brought through any humor.
Speaker 2: Yet, well, we also have not spoken.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, we haven't had a conversation yet.
Speaker 3: You've been filming her.
Speaker 1: I've been filming her, but I had not been having
a conversation. This will be the first conversation we've had
in this journey. So, now you've said it, and now
she's going to come in with it. What happens You're
going to channel Don Rickles. All of It's going to
be like.
Speaker 3: Go, I need a joke. Now I need to say
something funny.
Speaker 1: Let's bring Oak.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll just take a moment. And so we've very
much been looking forward to this interaction and we appreciate
your participation with this interaction. And to begin with on
this day, in this moment, we'd like to ask each
and every one of you to take a very deep
breath with us. Hold that breath at the top, and
then as you exhale, deeply relax your physicality, focus all
of your energy and attention on deep relaxation, noticing where
there is tension in your physicality and creating very deep relaxation.
Continue to breathe very fully, another deep breath. As you exhale,
relax and start to draw your energy awareness attention towards
yourself in this moment. So as we are speaking, you
are listening to this voice, and at the same time
you are drawing your attention inwards, starting to become aware
of yourself, of your body, of your energy body, your
mental body. And where we'd like to begin is we'd
like to offer you this idea that your human avatar
self is very much like a computer. We use this
analogy often. Your human avatar self is very much like
a computer, in which your physical body is the hardware
and your mind is the software, and you are the
one sitting at that computer. In other words, you are
the witness, the watcher, the observer, and so in this moment,
see if you can center yourselves as the witness. You
are an emanation of source, You are pure consciousness itself,
You are a being of light. In this moment, we
ask you to remember, on a very deep level, who
it is that you are. Feel yourselves as vibration, more
non physical than you are physical. So become aware of
your physicality, your physical body, and do a very gentle
scan from head to toe, just noticing what you are
experiencing physically, what sensations are arising in your physicality, and
then draw your awareness to the software meaning your mental body,
your mental construct, what thought forms are present in your
mind in this moment, if any, and as you're witnessing
those thought forms, just be aware. It's as if you
are looking on that computer screen and you're watching that
thought form stream by as a word or a sentence.
Don't get pulled into it. Just witness it. It's a
unit of energy. And then become aware of the frequency
of that thought form. Feel into the energetic emanation of
that thought form. Every thought form carries a frequency, so
begin to use your feeling sense, your emotional body to
feel into that frequency of that thought form. So here
you are the witnessing consciousness, witnessing the physical body, the
mental body, and the emotional body. This is your human avatar.
It is not your identity. It is the vehicle, the
vessel that you, the soul expresses through, but it is
not your identity. This energetic emanation, this essence that you
feel in this moment. As you draw your awareness towards
your breath, as you draw your awareness to the present moment,
use that present moment as an access point, as an
access point to this true identity self, This soul self. Again,
it's a vibration, it's an essence, it's non physical. And
be aware that this essence of who you are is
very much like a sun ray. You are an emanation
of source. So just as you could trace the sun
ray backwards and find the source, which is the sun,
begin to begin now to trace this emanation of light
that you are, and feel into the source of this
ray that you are, this ray of light, you are
source energy expressing through and as this physicality, as this
human form. In this moment, Source energy loves to express
itself in form. And so just feel a sense of
gratitude and appreciation that you get to be the expression
that is you, which is completely unique, completely one of
a kind, and therefore completely precious. Feel into your value
as this one of a kind, unique emanation of source energy,
as unique as a snowflake, no one else quite like you.
Just feel into your preciousness and then take a very
deep breath and have the sense of how loved and
appreciated you are in this moment. That love and appreciation
fills the room, whether or not you are aware of
it or not, it fills the room. It's a vibration
again of love and appreciation for who you are and
begin to direct that love and appreciation towards this human avatar.
So the body, the mind, the personality, the life story
that is you, holding the sense of gratitude and appreciation
that you get to be here at this point in time,
you get to express itself. You get to be a
point of light, a point of awareness, a point of consciousness,
holding that sense of gratitude and appreciation in your heart's center.
And so with all that in mind, how may we
serve you on this day? What questions do you have
for us?
Speaker 1: Yes, Sarah, thank you for being here. What is your
take on what is happening right now? The chaos that
is happening in the.
Speaker 3: World, Well, we would say that the chaos that is
unfolding is perfect. Even if your minds disagree, or even
if your minds do not understand, we would say, underneath
the chaos there is order. And just as Karen was
speaking earlier about her personal experience, what's true is that
oftentimes it requires chaos in order for each and every
one of you to wake up. So collectively, what is
occurring right now is a wake up call, a wake
up call, And so once again, moving back to the
conversation that you had earlier about whether awakening is a
choice or it just happens naturally, Well, the answer, at
least in our perspective is both. But as this chaos unfolds,
it's giving you a choice as to what you pay
attention to, where you place your attention. And what's true
for most is that the chaos is going to become
so intense, and for some it already is so intense
that they have no choice but to take their attention
off the external because it's too disturbing and start to
focus inwards, start to focus internally. And this is where
the answers are when you start to focus on an
inner level, asking those questions, who am I? For? What
purpose was I bor? And why am I here this?
These are the questions that lead to transformation, both individually
and collectively. So we would say, although it's very difficult
for some of you to hear this, we would say
nothing has gone wrong, everything is on track. We would
say this is a call to draw your attention towards
yourself and really do some soul searching and again awakening
as a choice point. Are you choosing to move forwar
connected with your soul self, or are you choosing to
be hypnotized by what is going on externally?
Speaker 1: Where do you see the wars that are going into
right now around the world. Where do you see them
going in the next year or two.
Speaker 3: Our senses, there may be and it is likely that
there will be an amplification, because again it feels to
us like it needs to get worse before it gets better.
And so for many beings, what they are being called
to do is hold their higher frequency. Those that are
listening to this broadcast may find this a little bit difficult,
but you would understand that the frequency of war, or
the we should say the manifestation of war, arises from
a very specific frequency. So we're just leading into some
advice in terms of the amplification of the chaos. If
you are experiencing an amplification of that chaos, then what
we are suggesting you do is to understand energy and vibration,
and in some sense you need to remember that the
light workers that are here are here to hold a
higher frequency, and so they must start to acknowledge that
lower frequency that is creating war and then very gently
start to draw their awareness towards an energy or a
vibration that would be of service to the collective. Understandably,
the most impactful or important energy or frequency that would
be of service at this time is the energy of peace.
But you need to feel that peace as a very
real state of being in your own mind and body
before you can emanate that outward. So we would say,
be at peace no matter what the external world is
doing in terms of chaos, and remember your purpose here
as your purpose here to be a frequency holder and
see if you can retain your energy and attention on
that vibration of peace within your heart center.
Speaker 1: Where do you see the economy going?
Speaker 3: We see the economy shifting and changing and transforming. That
is what we see. And we really hesitate to speak
certain words or give a projection about this because you'd
understand that we would never ever want to invite or
invoke an energy of fear. Yes, and we are not
saying that what we would say would invite fear, but
we would say it's a tender topic. And here's what
we would say about that. For many, if not most
of you, you equate safety with money, and that is
really the problem because if your safety is dependent on
something externally, you will never never feel safe. What if
your safety were to arise from your anchor with who
it is you are on the deepest level, your anchor
to source energy and your creation and deliberate cultivation of
beliefs that invite and invoke safety in your body. I
am always safe, I am guided, I'm guarded, I'm protected,
feeling into the essence of who you are as this
non physical being that can't be harmed. We understand this
is difficult for some, That's why we are smiling. But
what we are saying is very impactful if you really
get it. You cannot depend on something outside of yourself,
And again this speaks to all the chaos that's happening.
If you cannot depend on the external world for a
sense of safety, or security or stability, then where are
you going to source it from.
Speaker 1: With all the awakening that is happening and the humanity's
consciousness that it's evolving so rapidly right now, so many
people are starting to ask questions, where does traditional religion
have a place in this new awakened populace that is coming,
Because it's going away from what I see is going
away from the old religions and dogmas and things like that,
and opening themselves to new idea. He is an also
exploration within themselves. So yes, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 3: Well, we would say the main benefit that we see
with organized religion is the sense of community. And again
we would focus on the positive aspects of anything that
you bring to our attention, but we would really say,
and we would recommend that any being exploring spirituality or
religion really starts to draw their attention inwards as they
are exploring these topics and really get a sense of
what is resonating with them, meaning does this idea of
this belief system feel resonant or does it feel dissonant?
And for some organized religion or traditional religion still feels resonant,
And that idea of community really is the resonation point,
meaning that is the benefit for that being. So we
would never talk anyone out of something that resonates, but
we would say it's only you that can decide. And
we would also say just to point out that with
organized religion, oftentimes there's a pressure around it because let's say, well,
my entire family practices this, so there's a pressure for
me to practice that. Also, we would say be aware
in those situations whether you really feel resonant with that
belief system or that religion, or whether you're just following
in a sense, just following, not necessarily blindly, but just
following just to keep the peace, or just to be
part of the community or the family that you were
used to.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. Now, what is something
that humanity is getting completely wrong about awakening right now?
Speaker 3: That is somewhere in the future.
Speaker 1: Interestining you elaborate.
Speaker 3: We would say, away is always right here right now.
So again, going back to your beautiful question, is awakening
a choice or does awakening happen? We would say, once
you've had an experience of awakening, which is more of
something that does happen to you, then again, awakening is
a choice that you make in this present moment, as
I'm going about my day, as I'm moving forward into
all of my experiences, my relationships, my circumstances, my environments.
Am I going to move into those environments and those
relation relationships with deliberate choice, with the deliberate awareness of
who and what I am? Because your condition mind is
always going to be there and be present, So you're
always going to have these two aspects active within you
then condition mind and the higher self. And so that
offers a choice. Am I going to fall back into
my habitual way of reacting and interacting or am I
going to choose a more awakened way of being? But
understand that is happening right now today, in this moment.
You have these choice points. It's not that I'm going
to awaken at some point in the future, it's now now.
Speaker 1: What are people misunderstanding about intuition at a deeper level?
Speaker 3: What are people misunderstanding about intuition at a deeper level, Well,
we would say again, people think that intuition is some
mystical ability that they have to develop or that only
a few people have. We would say that's not the
case at all. Intuition is a natural ability. It's a
vibrational ability. You're all vibrational. Intuition is your ability to
pick up on vibration from different sources from your higher self,
source energy, your non physical guides, guardians, your energy, feel,
your future self. These are all sources of intuition and
they are available to all of you. And we would
echo what care And said in terms of intuition is
not something you develop. It's right here, right now. Your
intuition is leading you, guiding you, speaking to you in
this moment. The question is are you in the state
where you can receive it? And if not, then what
is required of you is to very gently and easily
shift your state. Shift your state. That's the missing key.
It's not that you have to go quote unquote developing
it or learning more or even reading a book. Is
that you must learn how to shift your physio physiology,
your physiology so that intuition can flow in.
Speaker 1: Is there a point where too much reliance on guidance
weakens the self?
Speaker 3: Which self? Are you speaking about.
Speaker 2: The self in this incarnation?
Speaker 3: So the avatar self, yes, well that would be a
good thing, so we would say yes. So when intuition
comes in, and oftentimes the experience is that it conflicts
with the conditioned mind because the condition mind wants to
stay small, it wants to stay safe, it wants to
stay in the box, it wants to stay where things
are familiar. And then the soul steps in and wants
the opposite. The soul wants expansion, evolution, authenticity. So when
the intuition comes in and begins to weaken that conditioned self.
That is actually a good thing. It's not that the
conditioned self is ever going to go away, but it
comes more translucent and more transparent, so the energetic frequency
of the soul self can shine through that human avatar
without any distortion and without any limitation.
Speaker 1: What is the next stage of human consciousness that people
aren't talking about yet?
Speaker 3: The next stage of human consciousness that people aren't talking about, Well,
we would say, are people even talking about the evolution
of human consciousness of us?
Speaker 1: Are? We would say overall.
Speaker 3: It's not a common party topic. It's not a conversation
that many people want to have because again, there are
a lot of beings who feel more comfortable, staying safe,
staying small. Again, there's nothing wrong with that. So we
are not bringing through any criticism or judgment. It's just
the state of the collective. The state of the collective
very much. It's like there's labor pains right now. So
there's difficulty, and some are all in, some are willing
to move forward and step into it, and some are
still very afraid. And so we are not exactly sure
how to answer that question. We would just say that
be courageous, be bold, to those that are listening, that
are willing to have the conversation, would say, have the
conversation and speak to others about it, but most importantly,
live your authentic, bold life in accordance with your higher self.
That speaks more than the conversations do. That speaks more
more than words do.
Speaker 1: Is that why there is I feel and I love
to hear your thoughts that humanity is avoiding unconsciously some
of these timelines that are a little bit more evolved
because they want to stay safe and small, because they're
afraid of the unknown.
Speaker 3: We would agree with that. We would say, again, keep
in mind, you're always either under the influence of your
conditioned mind or your higher self, And we would say
it's easier to stay under the influence of your conditioned
mind because it's more familiar. So it's comfortable. Doesn't mean
it's fulfilling, it doesn't mean it's authentic, but it's comfortable,
and your human avatar self favors that comfort because familiarity
equals safety. If I've made it this far, if I've
made it this far and I'm still alive, then I
better just keep doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Is that kind of like what it's like to be
in a bad relationship, but you've just has been in
so long that you're just comfortable in it, and it's
more scary to leave it than it is to stay
in it.
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yes, So many people have experiences in a relationship
or even a job situation where they know that it
is not a fit. They know it feels like a
puzzle piece that they're trying to jam in that doesn't
quite fit, that that hole that they're trying to push
the puzzle into. They know that they feel it in
every cell of their being that this isn't a fit
for me, So why don't they make a change? This
is a very very common experience. And the answer is because,
in that moment and in that situation, the condition mind
is at the driver's seat, it's not the soul. And again,
nothing has gone wrong, because what we would say to
you is that you all incarnate for a variety of
different experiences. So some of you incarnate and have experiences
where the conditioned mind is completely in the driver's seat
the entire incarnation. That's an exploration of frequency, that's exploring
what it's like to live in that state of that
condition mind. But we would say, for those of you listening,
what's likely true is that you want a different experience.
You've been there, done that, for lack of a better term,
you know what that's like. And so now you're curious,
what would it be like to connect in with my
authentic self and invite and invoke more of that to
express and make my decisions. What would it be like
to follow that? Now, that takes a lot of courage,
that often, if not always, invites you into the unknown. Again,
your avatar does not like the unknown. It's a threat,
and so it's a choice point that you make. Am
I going to follow the call? And we would say
it's also a muscle that you practice strengthening, because in
Karen's life, what she has found is that the more
she follows that call, even in the face of uncertainty
and fear, and she notices, well, everything actually works out
better than I could have planned. Well, then that's like
strengthening that muscle, and then the next time it becomes
a little bit easier.
Speaker 1: What advice do you have for somebody who is lost
right now and feels lost not only because of the
chaos that is surrounding them, but the belief in the
chaos at the surrounding them, but also just lost, like
why am I here? What is my purpose? Finding that
sole purpose? Finding that sole blueprint? What advice do you
have for them?
Speaker 3: What we would say, always always the first step when
you are experiencing that is to start to draw your
energy and awareness inwards. So when people say they feel lost,
what's often true is that they are looking outside for
the answers. They are looking to the external world. They
think there's some action they need to take. They think
there's something they need to do, and they haven't found
that yet, and they are lost. We would say, primarily
what you want to do is start to draw your
energy and awareness inwards so you can reconnect with the
essence of your true identity. The feeling tone, the vibration,
again not as a concept, but as an actual felt
experience in your body, in your energy body, so you're
having the sensation that who I am is more than
my physicality. Actually feel that vibration and then quiet the
mind because the mind tends to ruminate, so the mind
will take that thought form I'm lost, So in this moment,
really see that as a thought form, not an absolute truth.
Is it absolutely true that you're lost, you know that
for sure? Or could that just be a thought form
on repeat in the mind, because the mind, the condition mind,
will take that and run with it, and all of
a sudden, you're ruminating on that. You're finding all the
reasons why you're lost, all the reasons that you made
the wrong choices in the past, and all of a sudden,
there's this mental rumination that completely takes you out of
connection with this energy, this essence of your true self.
So reconnect with your essence slower, stop the mind, and
then question those thought forms. Is it actually true that
I'm lost? It looks like I'm right here? Actually am
I really lost?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: We under we were joking with you because we understand
what is meant by that, But we were saying that
there's a lot of thought forms that the condition mind
runs with that aren't necessarily true. The answer is always
finding the essence of your true self and shifting your
state into connection with your true self so that the
actions you take from that point are in alignment and
are expansive and open. And we would say, when you're
in that state, if there is an action that is
required of you, you will know it and you will
take it, and you will move forward with it. Doesn't
always mean that it is comfortable, but you will feel
that impulse and you will move forward. But again, if
you move forward, or if you take action too soon,
when you haven't shifted your vibration or you haven't shifted
your state, then you're just going to be on a
hamster wheel and you're going to feel lost and lost
and lost. It'll be like if you're in a man
and you keep going down different paths to have these
dead ends. That's what it's like when you take action
before resolving the energy.
Speaker 1: First, what is the illusion that we must wake.
Speaker 3: Up from that you are separate?
Speaker 1: Can you elaborate a little bit?
Speaker 3: None of you are separate. You are all interconnected with
the web of life. You are interconnected with each other,
you are interconnected with source. There is no separation in
this moment. Really feel that some of you may wish
to close your eyes and really feel the truth. Now,
feel for the truth. We're not offering you words. We're
offering you a broadcast and a divine truth that there
is no separation. So right here, right now, you are
interconnected with every other being, every grain of sand, every animal,
every tree, every star, every planet, the entire universe. There's
an interconnection. There's a quantum field that interconnects each and
everyone one of you, and so what you do affects
the entirety of this web. And we feel that if
you truly understood that at a very deep level, that
it's likely some of you would make very different choices.
Speaker 1: What is the real purpose of this human experience?
Speaker 3: Joy? Fun? But we've shared our three e's with you before,
we'll share them again. And so we like to say
that the purpose of life is experience, expression, and evolution.
And so number one, the experience of just being here,
just being alive, just being human. In the same way
that you go to a movie theater and watch an
incredible storyline and you witness all the characters and you
see all of the sets and all of the colors,
and you lose yourself in that story. Well, that's what's
happening here. You love. Whether you believe us or not,
you actually love the experience of this storyline, and you
love the experience of being human. It's exciting, it's fun.
What's going to happen next? And so that's the first
E experience. The second is expression. You're here to express
your unique soul frequency through and as the human construct,
through and as your human avatar. First you must discover
what that is, feel who you are beyond form, feel
that authentic vibration, and learn how to express it through
and as you. And then the third is evolution, which
is what occurs naturally as you follow those first two ease,
as you have your human experience, as you express your
soul frequency, you very naturally expand and evolve.
Speaker 1: If humanity could feel one thing collectively that would shift everything.
Speaker 3: What would it be, Well, that's an easy one. It
would be love. So if you could feel love, and
will lead you through an exercise in this moment, each
and every one of you listening, if you draw into
your awareness a being that you love deeply, see or
sense them in your mind's eye. Now, choose someone that
is easy to love. Don't choose someone that you love
but you've had difficulty with. Choose someone that's easy to love.
It could also be a pet and animal, and just
bring them into your mind's eye and focus on them
in this moment. Just feel that love for them. They
could also be in the spirit world. Just feel that
love for them and feel the love they have for you.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 3: Focus all of your energy and attention on your heart
center as you do this, and feel that love expanding,
feel the vibration the frequency of love. What does love
feel like? Is the question. It's not a thought form,
it's a vibration. It's right here right now. What does
love feel like as a sensation, an experience, and most
of all a state of being. As you bring all
that love of into your awareness and into your body
as a state, then just drop the focus on the
being and focus on the energy, the frequency. Now, if
you could anchor that energy, that frequency and not necessarily
need an excuse of a being to focus it towards,
but just anchoring that as a state, and you walk
through the world in this way, well that would be
it would be a very different planet. Let's put it
that way. So that feeling tone of love is a
very real vibration. And you would understand that many beings
who have what you call a near death experience, that's
the first thing that they experience as they cross because
all of the limitation that is has to do with
the human construct. It's not that that love frequency isn't
right here right now. It's that there are so many
limitations in the human avatar, so in the mind, in
the energy body, that prevent you from experiencing that even
though it's right here right now. So in the moment,
can you even just imagine what it's like to make
that transition and to just drop all of those limitations
and just feel that presence of love it's right here
right now.
Speaker 1: And finally, is there any one thing that you would
like to leave the audience with that they need to
hear right now?
Speaker 3: What we would like to offer the truth of how
speaking of love, how deeply loved and appreciated each and
every one of you are. Some of you have forgotten
this truth, and that is why you feel lost. You
forget who you are, but you also forget that you
are deeply loved and appreciated. We'd also like to communicate
that if you are here, if you are here on
planet Earth at this particular point in human history, that
means that you embody quite a bit of courage. Even
if you don't feel courageous or feel that sense of
courage right now, we promise you that you are courageous indeed,
thank you.
Speaker 1: So much for being here, and thank you so much
for your joy, your love, and your wisdom. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: It has been our pleasure and our honor to interact.
We appreciate you and all the work that you are
doing to elevate and uplift, and we will leave you
with a greeting sat Na, meaning true identity. We see
in sense and feel and know your true identities as
beautiful beings of light. We being in broadcast this frequency
to you in this moment and in every moment until
you're able to anchor that energy for yourselves. And so
sat Nam on this day, Satnam to you.
Speaker 1: She's back.
Speaker 3: She's back. My back just cracked.
Speaker 1: I not heard it.
Speaker 3: Sorry. I gave you a little adjustments there it is.
Speaker 1: It's a free adjustment.
Speaker 3: That was nice.
Speaker 2: So when you come back your bit.
Speaker 3: Loop, I yeah, I can meet well, as you know,
as you wins the last few days. Yeah, I definitely,
you know, I often don't remember what it said, you know.
Sometimes I remember for a few minutes and then it's
just like the same as when you wake up from
a dream and you remember and then it's totally gone.
So I definitely know that I'm in an altered state
because of that.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we recorded it, so you can go back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I love to record things and I can like, oh.
Speaker 1: That was pretty profound. That was pretty profound.
Speaker 3: It's good. Good jobs to Ry. My best friend always said,
good job, good.
Speaker 1: Job, good job.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's fascinating.
Speaker 1: I mean, you also did an episode of season one
of Channels Masterclass right with Sarai and it was beautiful,
but you actually broke down. I lost it yrying.
Speaker 3: I did. Yeah, so last time I was here, we
filmed that together, and you know, I came out of
the altered state and it just hit me and I
just lost it and I bawled my eyes out and
it was so funn because I think it was one
of the people in my Patreon emailed me to say
that they had seen it because I hadn't seen it,
and they were like, I love that you cried at
the end, and I was like, oh, he left that in.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I left it all in.
Speaker 3: I totally thought you were going to cut it out.
So anyways, now you call me the Weeping Channeler.
Speaker 2: The Weeping Channeler dot com.
Speaker 3: That's right, So you handle but I've only cried once
this week, So yes, I cried this morning.
Speaker 1: Yes, a little bit, but yeah, but it.
Speaker 3: Wasn't actually channeling when I was.
Speaker 1: When I was, it was just yes story. You were
telling a story for one of our other shows that
we were doing on Next Level Sold TV.
Speaker 2: And you will be in season two of Channels.
Speaker 1: Masterclass as well, which will come out sometime this year.
Thanks because a lot of stuff cooking at the moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a lot of puts on the stove.
Speaker 1: Alex Ferrari so and that brings us to the amazing
mastery courses that we put together.
Speaker 3: I'm so grateful to get a part of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were. It was a joy having you.
Speaker 1: It was a joy watching you and sar I work.
And we did a course on how to find your
soul's blueprint and another one about how to tap into
your intuition.
Speaker 2: And there's links in the.
Speaker 1: Description below if you're on YouTube or on anywhere else
you're watching this that they can watch a free webinar
on one or both of those, depending on how we
set it all up. But you'll get at least one
webinar depending on which one gets released. I think because
we're not going to release both at the same time,
so we're going to probably release one or the other one.
We haven't determined which one yet as of this recording.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're figuring it all out.
Speaker 1: We're figuring it all out right now exactly. But by
the time it comes out, the link will be in
the description and people can watch it there. So I'm
super super excited. One last question I have for you, Well,
first of all, where can people find out more about
you and the amazing work you're doing?
Speaker 3: Any work you Yeah, Well, my website is intuitivekb dot
com KB Karen Bell, that's my nickname, so intuitivekb dot com.
You can search me on YouTube and subscribe to my channel,
and all my links are on my website, so social
media links are at the top of my website.
Speaker 1: So simple. Is that?
Speaker 3: Very simple?
Speaker 1: And of course they can see you on Next Level
sol TV and we have all sorts of stuff that
we're going to be doing with you in the future
as well. So excited. One question I want to ask
you before we go is what is the deepest truth
Sarah has ever shared with you that still sticks with
you today.
Speaker 3: Ooh yeah, that's good. I might need a minute for
that one the deepest truth that she shared with me.
I think it's that nothing has gone wrong. I know
that sounds so simple, but she's brought that through quite
a few times, both to me personally and to others.
So you know, I think sometimes our mind interprets what
we've gone through in our lives, like if we have
a hard time, or even if we have a regret,
or maybe we made a decision that we would have
done something different. Later, she often just says, well, don't worry,
nothing has gone wrong, right, it's either there's purpose in it,
for sure, but if you really look it, it's like, well,
that led me to this moment. And I know, for
me personally, I'm so grateful to be in this moment,
so like decisions that maybe I would have done differently
from this standpoint, well, no, but nothing went wrong because.
Speaker 1: I'm here, everything everything is happens exactly the way it's
supposed to happen.
Speaker 3: Exactly, fun, painful, all of this, the whole spectrum. She's
also said, and this is along the same lines, but lately,
she she'll plug this, it'll pop into my head. She says.
Everything is managed by a higher perspective. Everything is managed
by a higher perspective and I can see that, and
I'm sure you can. When you describe how you know
everything exploded and it's your success, is like and I
have that too. I'm just like, I'm so aware that
everything is managed by a higher perspective because some of
the things that have come my way, there is no
way I could have orchestrated that, right, And I'm just
so grateful too. I mean, it brings a person comfort
to understand that.
Speaker 2: Oh, no question.
Speaker 1: When when our when next level soul kind of started
to take off, I realized I'm like, oh, I'm not
in control of this. Yeah, that was that was a
slightly scary moment, by a freeing moment at the same time. Yeah,
because the brain is going like, what, you're not in control,
but something inside like you're finally getting it. Yeah, you
kind of have to let you kind of have to.
It's a big it's a big thing. So something that
intense had to happen for me to kind.
Speaker 3: Of yeah, understand yourself is just sort of steering the
ship or just going with the flow, or how do
you see yourself.
Speaker 1: In that just like well, yeah, I mean you have
to work. Yeah, exactly a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Make the mistake of like, oh, the universes like care
about like you.
Speaker 1: Gotta it's it's you gotta work action. You have to
take action. You have to get out of your couch,
you know, stop watching you know, something on Netflix or
something like, you have to actually go out and do it.
Speaker 3: So, even with your mastery coourse, I knew that there
was a plan, and I told you this I think
yesterday the day before. But what was really interesting to
me was that someone had emailed me or messaged me
and said, this was like probably six months before we
talked about doing the course, and they said, you know,
I keep seeing you doing like channeling Sarai for Alex
and doing like some sort of like meditation series. I'm
not even kidding. And then so when all this happened
this week, I was like, this is just kind of unfolding,
like it was in you know, it was the Divines
Idea obviously, and then it's all unfolding. But that premonition
that he had, he saw that this was going to
happen or not going to happen. But he suggested that
I talk to you about it, and I never did.
Speaker 1: No, you did not I came to you I came.
Speaker 3: To you, I was like, yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Then I showed it to you and You're like, oh
my god, let's do it. And as of this recording,
it hadn't been really hasn't been released yet, right, so
we're we're going to release this interview after master gets released.
So well, I just don't know what's going to happen.
So if it sounds like what are you talking about, Alex,
it's all over the place, everyone's seeing it. I have
no idea as of this recording at this moment, this timeline,
this timeline.
Speaker 2: Is that I have no idea.
Speaker 3: It would be interesting.
Speaker 1: But when it's when you get released, we've already would
have released and launched Next Levels, so masteries and stuff
like that.
Speaker 3: So and I'm excited. I actually want to watch all
of those. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I've told you some of the topics.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the teachers, Yeah, there's definitely some teachers that I
love and I'm super excited. So I can't wait to
dive in and watch right courses exactly.
Speaker 1: And the good thing is, and for everyone listening, if
they don't know at this point, if you have a
Next Levels, so if you have next levels of TV
and you have an annual membership right now for for
a while at least, you will have access to all
of the Mastery courses for your membership or if you
just want to pick up a couple of years off, yeah,
the one off. You can buy them individually as well,
So it gives everybody an opportunity to and we keep.
Speaker 3: It pretty pretty affordable a deal.
Speaker 2: It's actually kind of people have been like, Oh, that's
what's wrong with you? Why are you doing this so.
Speaker 3: Che No, it's an amazing deal. I mean, i mean
just compared to other courses.
Speaker 1: That are out there too, horses, other platforms, other things.
I'm like, now, you know, we want to kind of
get this to everybody, and I mean for the kind
of I mean, this has been a.
Speaker 3: Lot of work, A lot of work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a it's a lot of work.
Speaker 3: I mean I'm watching you. I'm like, it's been I'm
seeing you editing, I'm seeing you doing the web design,
I'm seeing you do this that like you're doing a
lot over there, Alex.
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot.
Speaker 2: It's a lot, but it's what I'm supposed to be doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's your calling.
Speaker 1: It's my calling. But it's been such a pleasure.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. It's been the best week.
Speaker 1: It has been the best week. And as of as
of when as soon as we're done with here, you're
going to leave?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I'm kind of sad, Like.
Speaker 1: It's like we're all like, but we're playing all the
way home?
Speaker 3: Can I just stay here and slay and you're not.
Speaker 1: And you're not the only teacher that said that all
the tas. I don't want to go. This is like
so much fun. I feel it when I'm on on
a film set. I like, I just like I'm in bliss.
Speaker 2: I don't want to, I don't want I want.
Speaker 1: This to keep going.
Speaker 2: I know we have to.
Speaker 3: It feels shit, It's amazing. It's just really felt like
home this week. So I'm so grateful.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate you and everything you're
doing to help awaken the planet, and I appreciate you
coming and playing with us and creating some amazing content
that hopefully will help awaken people around the world.
Speaker 3: So thank you so much. Appreciate you, Alex, thank you, Thank.
Speaker 1: You for spending this sacred time with us today. If
you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll find
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Speaker 4: M HM.