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Now let's dive in to today's episode. I like to

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welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Karen Bell you, hey, Alex, thanks for having me back.

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So thankful to be here.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for flying down from the great

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White North.

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Speaker 1: Yes, to come down.

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Speaker 3: So white right now, but yeah, thank you careing up.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming down to Next Level Soul Studios.

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Speaker 2: We've been busy.

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Speaker 3: We've been so busy and having so much fun. I

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feel like you're my new best buddy.

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Speaker 1: Ah, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Have so much time together in the last few days.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's the intensity with the productions and things that

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we're doing together. Yes, which we'll talk a little bit

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about in a bit. But yeah, it's intensity of like

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you're being in the room ten hours, twelve hours, just

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working with somebody.

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Speaker 2: It's a filmmaking. That's what we do, is filmmaker.

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Speaker 1: The carney is now you're a carne now. Oh yeah, yes,

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even now you're a carneie now. So that's what happens

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when you go on a set is like you bring

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a group of people that you never knew and they're

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putting them all together, and then you're going through war together.

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And then you have all this intensity and you do

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that for a month, a week, a few days, it

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depends and then you just band.

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Speaker 3: There's a bond that happens. So I was thinking this morning,

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I'm like, oh, I'm gonna be really sad to leave tomorrow, right.

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Speaker 1: And you see them and you see them ten years later,

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you see them ten years later.

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Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, dude, it's like I remember that time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there is a there's a beautiful thing about it.

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But we'll talk about that stuff afterwards. But you so,

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for people who don't know you, you've been on the show

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a couple of.

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Speaker 3: Times, I have, I think this is number three.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is the third time you've been on the show. Yes,

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and call everybody for if they haven't seen the other episodes.

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Speaker 2: Just a quick little bit about you as.

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Speaker 1: A channeler, as an intuitive and Sarah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I'm my name is Karen Bell. Obviously, I'm

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a clairvoyant and a channeler and I'm from Canada and

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I've been doing. I've been doing intuitive work for about

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twenty years. And so the way that started, if people

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don't know my story, is that I was working as

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a makeup artist at that time when I started to

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receive these very unusual impressions about people. I started having

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psychic impressions while they were sitting in my chair and

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I was doing their makeup, and so that's how it

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really started. Started really small. That got me really curious

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about intuition and psychic ability and spirituality and consciousness, and

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so I just started studying. And around that time I

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started giving free readings, just more as an experiment for myself.

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So it was just like I would put out on

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Kojiji at the time, you know, free readings. It was

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just really a test alex to see if this was

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a thing. It was a thing, So the path unfolded.

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I got really interested in mediumship, started having mediumistic experiences,

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and then that led into channeling because I started studying

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trance mediumship, which is basically mediumship in an altered state.

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And then SARAHI, who's one of my guides, she came

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through probably late twenty seventeen twenty eighteen in a morning meditation.

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I just became aware of this presence to my left

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hand side, and it just looked like a glowing orb

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of light at first, so I didn't really understand that

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this was a being. Took a little bit of time

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to get there, but it was very similar to the

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spirit world where I would start to receive these telepathic communications,

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and so I just started writing down what she was saying,

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and that's really how it started. And then it evolved

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into me actually vocally channeling her. That started about three

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years ago. So it's been a really interesting journey, not

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something I planned. Everyone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you were five year old, was like, do

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you know what I want to be a channel when

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I grow up?

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Speaker 3: Exactly? I was like, I wanted to be an artist.

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I want to be a musician. That was my life

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plan and it took a turn and I love it.

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It's my greatest passion. But it's just funny how you

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start out doing something and you really have no clue

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where life is taking you exactly right, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, this is not what I envisioned, but you just

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show up and your guide and you're right it.

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Speaker 2: Feels so it's my bliss.

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Speaker 1: I love doing this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really do love doing this work. But I

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didn't expect it.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing, And I think that's an important

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thing for people to realize, because if people are feeling

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lost or that they don't really know what's happening, it

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doesn't mean that you're off track, right, It could just

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mean that you haven't fully blossomed yet. And so when

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I look back, I see and I think you do too,

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how everything just unfolded perfectly, and there are these little breadcrumbs,

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you know, all the way, just leading me to this point.

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But at the time sometimes I was really confused. I

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was like, I don't really know.

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Speaker 1: I don't want this bread. I don't want this bread,

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I don't want cars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where are we going, universe? I don't really understand this, right,

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And so eventually, looking back on it, you see you

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were guided the entire time, and there were reasons why

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you met certain people and why you were placed in

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the certain positions or had certain experiences. You realize that

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looking back, but in the moment sometimes it can be

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very confusing.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So you have a very deep, obviously a very

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deep connection with Sarai I do, Yeah, is there a

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moment in recent history where you doubted your connection with her?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think in the beginning I did, because again

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the way that I think of our guides and even

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you know, any being that we're connecting with, it's like

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you're forming a relationship, and it's the same as just

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forming a human relationship, like it requires trust and it

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requires your actual human self what Sarah calls your human avatar,

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to have enough experiences so that you start to trust.

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So it took some time. And when I look back

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on the experience of her just very gently appearing just

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as a light, that was a very gentle presence, just

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more as a sensation. So she didn't show up like

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I'm a being and this is what you're gonna be

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doing and you're gonna be channeling me. It wasn't abrupt.

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It was very gentle, and so it took time to

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develop that trust of Okay, I am this is a

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real experience. And I think that when I started to

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see the transformation with people that I would channel four

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is when I started to really deeply trust because I

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was like, Okay, something bigger is happening here. Again, I'm

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not this isn't me doing this right, this is something

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so much bigger, And I mean, I'm just so grateful,

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But yeah, there have been definitely moments where it's I

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think it's just taken time to evolve into this.

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Speaker 1: This is a thing. I think this is a fear

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that most channelers have, not all, but I think at

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a certain level, of a certain amount of time, this

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doesn't this fear doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, but do you

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ever like are in front of a bunch of people

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and all of a sudden, you're like, I got a channel, Like,

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is something going to show up?

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Speaker 3: Like? Sit?

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Speaker 1: How does that work?

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Speaker 3: Well? I've often had that before I do some sort

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of event. I'm like, are you going to show up? Sir?

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I like, seriously, But I mean I had a lot

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of experience leading up to channeling. I had a lot

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of experience giving mediumship demonstrations. So I'm so grateful that

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I found a spiritualist church and I was able to

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develop mediumship in that environment because it was a safe environment.

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But I had so many experiences of that exact thing

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what you were saying about, Like God, I hope you

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know when I I hope when I stand up in

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front of this group of fifty people, that somebody comes

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through right to let alone. I hope that it's accurate,

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and I had practice leading up to that, so I

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definitely understand what you're saying. But now I'm to the

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point again where I've had so many experiences. There's never

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been a time when she hasn't shown up, and so

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I have no reason to think that she's not going

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to show up when I need her.

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Speaker 1: So is there a part of your human self that

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still struggles with this part of your life?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Because what I have experience, and I think many

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people will relate to this, is that as you go

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through this spiritual awakening experience, and as you start to

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shift and heal and grow and change internally, then a

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lot of external things start to shift and drop away.

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So relationships and things like, things that are no longer

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a match for you start to shift. And I think

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I knew when Sir I started coming through like vocally,

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I mean, so I was no longer just sitting by

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myself in meditation, just you know, receiving guidance and it

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was just for me. But when I started to be

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more public with it and I started to really feel

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that this was my calling, there was a moment where

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I knew that there was a lot that was going

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to change, right, And so I think that's what I

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struggled with and what I still sometimes struggle with is

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just like the part about, Okay, I have to be me,

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I have to be authentic and share my authentic experience.

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This is what I'm experiencing that I channel this being.

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Not everybody gets that, not everybody resonates with it, but

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that doesn't mean that. You know, if I were to

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forego this path just for the sake of keeping everybody

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happy or comfortable, you know, I would just hate my life. Right,

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have to keep stepping into it and even just facing

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that fear of change, or facing that fear of you know,

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not belonging or whatever it is, and just let everybody

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have their own opinion. And you know, the fulfilling aspect

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is well, at least I'm at peace with myself.

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Speaker 1: So is there ever a moment that Sarah said something

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to you that you just did not want to hear?

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Speaker 3: Oh, that is such a good question. Let me think

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about that.

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Speaker 1: Because she's truthful.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you know what comes to mind is,

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as I have stepped into this, it was sort of

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like an explosion, Alex, like it was sort of like

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I again, I feel like there was a moment where

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I had a choice point like Okay, are you going

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to do this or are you going to not? And

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I really felt her pull or her guidance, like this

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is really your calling. But again I felt that hesitation

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of like okay, but like that means that I'm going

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to be out there doing this, right, So I guess

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that's what comes to mind is just again that hesitation

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of Okay. If she's really calling me to do this

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and I say yes, yeah, then what's going to happen?

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But thankfully everything has been so positive. I mean, I've

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only been doing this for a little over three years,

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and I've had the most amazing opportunities, Like being here

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with you is an amazing opportunity. I've had other incredible opportunities,

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and so I kind of know that this is the

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right path just because of again the incredible amount of

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flow that started to unfold in my life when I

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said yes to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and also just for people to know it's like,

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you know, we've spent the last few days together and

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you've channeled a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot

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of channeling and probably.

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Speaker 3: More channeling than I've ever done in like period.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not the only one. Angie was here, Genevieve

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was here. Like, we have a lot of people who

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come and do our courses, and when they're here, it's

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like it's a boot campling. All right, Yeah you're a channeler.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's see to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see how you're doing.

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Speaker 3: There was only one night and was it last night

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of the night before where I started to fade at

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the end of it, But like, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it was a first day, your first day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I did pretty good, but definitely

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towards the end of the day, I was starting to

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be like, and I got back to the hotel and

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I was like, I am really tired right now.

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Speaker 2: But it pushes you.

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Speaker 3: It was great though. It kind of like pushed me

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to see, Okay, how much can I do? Right?

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Speaker 2: And you are free to leave at any time?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, locking me in the room saying ch channel, channel,

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channel No. It was great because and I think I

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told you this, but I wouldn't have been able to

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do that maybe two years ago, because when she first

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started coming in, it's a lot so exhausting. I would

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channel for an hour and then have to I remember

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needing to go lie down for about three hours, so

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again my body had to build up the capacity to

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just allow that energy broadcast to come through. So it

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was actually really cool to see how long I could

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channel while I've been here.

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Speaker 1: Well, if there's a channeler that wants to come on,

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we put them to the test here.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And it's fascinating to watch because when we were building

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these courses together, our mastery courses together, we kind of

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put it together to get us you know, we were

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sitting down organizing things, and then channel. You just channeled

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most of the courses.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean the second course we didn't even

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plan really, you know, the second course. We were just like.

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Speaker 1: Having lunch and we're like, hey, let's.

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Speaker 3: Let's what do you think of maybe just doing another one.

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I'm like, yeah, that sounds good, and I mean literally

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just channeled it without as.

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Speaker 1: You showed up the next day and we're like, these

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are I think this is what we could talk.

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Speaker 2: We'd like emailed a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was in the morning. I got up early yesterday morning.

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I meditated. I was like, SORRAI, what do you want

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to talk about? She gave me a list, I email

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it to you, and then all of a sudden, we're

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like doing this, whereas the other one I was thinking

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a lot, planning, preparing, you know, trying to think of

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the concept for like a month before, and it was

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just hilarious that this.

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Speaker 1: Just it went out the window of a sudden.

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Speaker 3: And I bet that it'll be like you know the

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one that like people are like whoa, right, because it

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was just when you tend to be in the flow

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like that, don't you find that you get the best

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results sometimes when you're just like, well.

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Speaker 1: You let go because you've let go of all the

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preconceived notions of what it is you have, you have

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no attachment.

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Speaker 3: To outcome exactly. I think that's like I.

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Speaker 1: Don't really have an attachment outcome this work. Yeah, I

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just put it out there and see what happened. So

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I think you and I when we were creating this

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stuff together, it was just kind of like, hey, let's

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let's just put this together and see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's a good point. It's like, well,

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let's just try it and see what happens. And I

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think that's good for everyone to hear too, is like,

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you know, you can just try something right and if

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it doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: It's not live.

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Speaker 3: At least you try it right. So I'm so glad

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that we did that and we followed that call.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we have the two master courses that we

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did together. Is one about finding your soul's blueprint and

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the other ones about tapping into your intuition. So to

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talk about intuition for a second, has there ever been

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a time when following your intuition led you somewhere painful

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or confusing?

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Speaker 2: Because we always look at it, but oh, the good

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instincts trying to protect you, and these instincts.

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Speaker 1: Are all about that, but they might be guiding you

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in a painful path because that's the path.

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Speaker 2: You need to be on.

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Speaker 3: So sure, well, I mean one that.

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Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 3: I have a few stories about that, but one that

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really I mean, the first experience, a really strong experience

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of intuition happened and I was working as a makeup

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artist and I loved my job. I really had no

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reason to leave. I thought I'd be doing that forever.

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background that it wasn't a fit for me. And I

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was so confused because I was like, but I like

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this and this fits me and it fits my personality

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and it's what I always envision myself doing, so why

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would I leave it? And then my soul was over

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here saying, yeah, but it's time to go. But it

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wasn't giving me the why. Wasn't saying like why you

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need to go. It was just a feeling like, Okay,

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I needed to leave. So I did what we all do.

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I ignored it as you do. I was just like, yeah,

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I'm just going to ignore this feeling because it doesn't

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make sense. I'm confused, So I ignored it. But what

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happened was my body started speaking to me. So I

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started getting sick and I started losing weight, and I

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just was like having this response so much so that

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I had to take time off work. I had to

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just stop and just go on a bit of a

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leave so I could address my health. And thankfully, when

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I did that and I had quiet time by myself,

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I was like, oh, that really was my intuition, because

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all of a sudden, when I was away, I just

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felt better and I don't know, I felt more expansive.

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So when I finally decided that I was going to

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follow that voice, it was really interesting because all of

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those physical symptoms disappeared and my health came back and

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I was fine. But it was really confusing because it

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didn't make sense. And to be honest, it didn't real

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It wasn't like, Okay, I made the decision and then

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it all made sense again. It was like, but I

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look back now, and I think, well, I needed to

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leave that job to have a quieter environment so I

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could start to study what I'm doing now. And if

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I hadn't left that sort of busy environment, which you know,

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there was a lot of activity and a lot of

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external stimulation all the time, so there was less focus

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on inner state. So if I hadn't left that, then

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I probably wouldn't be doing what I do now.

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Speaker 1: Was there an emotional cost to becoming who you are now?

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Speaker 3: An emotional cost because you.

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Speaker 1: Followed your your bliss? It wasn't an easy path.

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Speaker 3: It was really hard.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're a.

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Speaker 2: Channeler, for God's sake.

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Speaker 1: This is not something that's like doctor lawyer, channeler that

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it's not a path that most people take, so I

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have to imagine there's some challenges there. So what emotional

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cost or costs in general that this going down your

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authentic path, your soul blueprints, your your soul's purpose is path,

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because not everyone agrees with it in your world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well definitely, I mean definitely, Yeah, there's all sorts

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of things. I mean, I think of there was a

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lot of fear that came up because again, and this

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is really interesting and this isn't unique to me, but

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often our souls are calling us into uncertainty in order

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to get us to trust. And so I've always thought

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that one of my main life lessons is trust. And

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so again that idea, Okay, just leave this job where

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you get a secure paycheck and you have the vacation

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and you know, blah blah blah. You know, that was confusing.

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I don't know what I'm doing really, and I didn't

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know for many years how the path was going to unfold.

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I never at that time, I was giving intuitive readings,

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but I never felt called to do that full time.

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I actually didn't feel called to do that full time

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until just a few years ago, it was just like,

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you know, it just wasn't my calling. It felt more

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like I was supposed to be studying and learning and developing,

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but not really you know, jumping into it. So there

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was a lot of fear of uncertainty. And I still

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sometimes feel that because I still sometimes feel like this

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path is expanding, but I don't exactly know where she's

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guiding me. I mean, I have a lot more trust

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now in Saran and my intuition, but yeah, fear of

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uncertainty and then that sense sometimes, you know, I've lost

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friends definitely that don't understand what I do right, or

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don't agree yeah, or don't agree they don't get it,

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or think it's a little bit outside the box, which

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it is, you know, but some people just don't resonate

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with that. But thankfully, Alex, you know, when I've had

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people that don't resonate and leave my life, I've been

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so so blessed to discover that people are drawn in

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that are the complete opposite, that completely love it, get it,

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support me, love me, love Saraye. And I think I've

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had more of an influx of that than I have

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the letting go but that's not to say that the

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letting go wasn't hard, right. So sometimes there's a cost

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to being your authentic self, right, and so you have

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to find courage within you to just ask yourself how

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important is this? Like to me, it was really important

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and it still is for me to just be me

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because I have to live with me, right, So if

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I don't feel like I'm being truthful or honest or authentic,

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then you know, I'm not going to be happy in

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my day to day life. So that's always been important

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to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, and following your path and following your soul's purpose.

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Is there something unexpected that you had to let go

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of that you didn't even think about?

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question. Yeah, something unexpected that I

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had to let go of. Well, there's been a lot

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of things. I mean, I think I've had to let

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go of my attachment to certain outcomes because again, there

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was a part of me in my twenties that I

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did I did really want just a simple life and

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not a lot of attention and just you know, I

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just wanted to work, go to work and come home

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and have dogs and right's you know. Yeah, So I guess, my, my,

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what I've had to let go of is just this

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this vision of what I thought my life would be.

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could never have envisioned. And so sometimes when people are

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thinking about, you know, well, I don't know what my

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what my dream is or my purpose is. Most sometimes

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that's because from where you are in this moment, it

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would be possible for you to understand or envision where

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you're going. So I've had to let go of attachment outcomes.

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I guess it's a long winded save way of saying that.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you, because I mean, we're talking

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a lot about our soul's purpose. Yeah, following you intuition.

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Speaker 2: I wish that a lot of the.

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Speaker 1: Leaders around the world would follow the same passion. Oh man,

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wouldn't that be listening to their inner higher self?

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Speaker 3: And it would be a different planet.

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Speaker 1: It'd be different, But we'll get there eventually. Yes, But

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what is what is your take? What has Arived said

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about And I'll ask her when she comes on. Yeah,

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but like, what's your feeling about where we're going? Because

477
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there's so much fear.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so much fear and there's a lot.

479
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Speaker 1: Of chaos going on, and there's more chaos happening on

480
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a daily basis.

481
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Speaker 3: I know, it just seems like it's just avalanching, doesn't

482
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,000
it like snowballing. Yeah, well, I can only relate it,

483
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,000
relate that collective journey of what we're all going through

484
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to like my individual journey. And and what I would

485
00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:02,400
say is that when I look back at some of

486
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,559
the most chaotic or difficult times, although I hated it

487
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,880
in the moment and would have wanted to be out

488
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,559
of it, it was those moments that actually led to

489
00:23:11,599 --> 00:23:15,559
my awakening experience and led me into what I'm doing now. So,

490
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,079
for example, I had a really difficult time in you know,

491
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,559
twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and that's what got me started

492
00:23:23,599 --> 00:23:26,400
meditating every single day. Like that's when I committed to meditation.

493
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,640
So in terms of where we're going, well, I'm not sure.

494
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But this amplification of chaos, I feel like maybe there's

495
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purpose in it, and maybe that's the reason it's like

496
00:23:36,759 --> 00:23:39,359
to get people to wake up, because sometimes we don't

497
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,359
wake up until things get really hard and we have

498
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,279
to search somewhere for those answers, right, And for me,

499
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,000
that was searching inside myself or asking those huge questions

500
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,119
like who am I? And why the heck am I

501
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,880
on this planet? Right? So I think some of the

502
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,440
chaos is inviting us to ask those questions.

503
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, we get dropped into that video

504
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,599
game and it's a very chaotic scenario. Yes, and we're

505
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,480
just trying to figure ourselves out, yes, exactly, figure our

506
00:24:07,559 --> 00:24:08,200
part in it.

507
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,759
Speaker 3: And it takes time. It doesn't always happen overnight.

508
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Speaker 1: So you've mentioned awakening a few times. Is there something

509
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,839
is awakening, something you choose, or something that happens to us?

510
00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:21,319
Speaker 3: Ooh, another good question.

511
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,039
Speaker 4: For me.

512
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:26,799
Speaker 3: It was something that happened to me, and then once

513
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,839
it happens to you, then I think it's a day

514
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,359
to day choice, right, because there's the experience of awakening

515
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,839
I had. I've had a few different experiences that were

516
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,200
not something that I chose, but just sort of happened

517
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,839
in my life. I had my first mystical experience when

518
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,880
I was nineteen, when I separated from my body and realized,

519
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,039
you know that my consciousness or my spirit was separate

520
00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:51,440
from my body. That just happened. I didn't choose that,

521
00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:54,920
but I mean that's the seed. So that's the seed

522
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,319
that then continually it's like, well, what are you going

523
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,079
to do with that information or what are you going

524
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,279
to do with that experience? Are you going to ignore

525
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:03,559
that that happened and just go back to your day

526
00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:05,680
to day life or you're going to actually take that

527
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:07,960
in and ask yourself what that means. So I think

528
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,160
it's a combination of those two things you.

529
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: Were mentioning, you know, awakening and alignment, But alignment is

530
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,440
asked for a word that's kind of misunderstood a little bit.

531
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,799
Are people misinterpreting alignment as for comfort?

532
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,759
Speaker 3: Ooh yeah, some are. Yeah, I mean it's that difference.

533
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,559
Here's the thing. I think our soul, as I said,

534
00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:32,000
I really think our because our soul is here for

535
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,680
expansion and evolution, that part of that is leading you

536
00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:41,759
into a zone that is not comfortable, so outside of

537
00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:45,880
your comfort zone basically, And so I think that can

538
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,440
be a little bit confusing because it's like, Okay, your

539
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,680
intuition gives you an idea that feels uncomfortable. That doesn't

540
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,000
mean that you're not supposed to do that, right, So

541
00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:58,839
it can be really confusing. I think we just need

542
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,960
to get out of our heads and feel the energy

543
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,519
in our bodies when it comes to that question, because

544
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:06,759
it's like alignment is something that you feel, it's not

545
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:08,640
something so much that you think about. It's like when

546
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:15,039
someone is moving forward towards their passion and feeling what

547
00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:18,519
their passion is, well, then they feel that that alignment

548
00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:21,440
inside themselves. Right, But that doesn't mean that you're not

549
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,920
going to be led somewhere that's not comfortable and that

550
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,880
you're not going to feel that discomfort sometimes.

551
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,599
Speaker 2: And I think that's what's happening to all of us.

552
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going into a space of discomfort discomfort, yeah, completely,

553
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,039
And that's the only time you really.

554
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,039
Speaker 3: Move in life exactly. I mean, if everything we're comfortable,

555
00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:41,039
then you don't have to do anything right, you don't

556
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,359
have to expand you don't have to ask those questions.

557
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,160
So and I think I was joking with you this

558
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,279
week because I was saying that, like, Okay, your soul

559
00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:52,640
moves you into that that zone that sound comfortable, and

560
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,920
so you follow the call and you do the thing,

561
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,240
and you face the fear and you dissolve it and

562
00:26:58,279 --> 00:27:01,920
then it's almost like the soul is just playing a

563
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,799
funny game and then the zone just expands some more,

564
00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:07,279
and then you're called to move into it again. So

565
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:12,000
it's almost never ending, this experience of expansion on the

566
00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:15,119
spiritual journey. But I mean, when you really ask yourself

567
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,160
what's happening in those moments of expansion, it's usually you're

568
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,559
being caught. You're being asked to look at some sort

569
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:24,119
of limiting belief or something inside yourself that is maybe

570
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,720
creating that fear or that discomfort, and then you have

571
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:29,799
to dissolve that and that's when your soul can express

572
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,400
itself through you more fully beautifully.

573
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: Now I have to ask you, because we talked a

574
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,599
little bit about intuition. Can someone be deeply intuitive but

575
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:40,839
yet deeply unconscious?

576
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:44,599
Speaker 3: Ooh, deeply intuitive and deeply.

577
00:27:44,319 --> 00:27:47,759
Speaker 1: Uncy Listen to them their gut, but they are completely

578
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,640
in on the three D world?

579
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: Right? Well, I mean that raises the question of like

580
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,839
instinct versus intuition, because I think those two are two

581
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,279
different things. But I mean, yeah, I think someone I

582
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:03,680
think there are people that cannot be spiritually awakened and

583
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,319
and not have a sense of who they truly are,

584
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,400
but just have a good sense of their inner compass

585
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,720
and just move forward in that way. I mean, sometimes

586
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,599
we see that, I think in the world through people

587
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,119
that you'd least expect, like having a lot of success

588
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,359
or a lot, right, And you're like, hmm, like why

589
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,400
is that person Maybe they don't have the.

590
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,559
Speaker 4: Best values or that's whatever it is in the world

591
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,079
with that part, right, but that that person seems to

592
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,240
be following some sort of inner guidance that's creating you know, Oh,

593
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:32,839
there's a lot.

594
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: Of billionaires in the world that that created something out

595
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:36,359
of nothing.

596
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:36,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

597
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're not particularly maybe the nicest people their companies.

598
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 3: Not exactly what I'm talking about, but.

599
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: It's something guide to them in that exactly.

600
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:47,279
Speaker 1: So they're playing a part in this play exactly, but

601
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,279
without them.

602
00:28:48,279 --> 00:28:50,559
Speaker 3: Without them really recognizing that they are.

603
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of fascinating.

604
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,799
Speaker 3: Totally fascinating. Yeah, and it's something to learn from too,

605
00:28:58,039 --> 00:28:58,400
I think.

606
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, even like you look you look at

607
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:06,119
history and you like, obviously some dictators and hit throughout history.

608
00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:08,599
Speaker 2: You know, someone was guiding Alexander.

609
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: The Great right, right, you know, to do what he did,

610
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,839
and and Genghis Khan and stuff like that. So they

611
00:29:14,839 --> 00:29:21,319
were completely i'd say disconnected from higher conscious rates, right, right, Man,

612
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,839
were they driven.

613
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. I mean it's it's an interesting exploration

614
00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:27,200
for sure.

615
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: It's a deeper, deeper, philosophical conversation.

616
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,119
Speaker 3: On the plane tomorrow, I'll be like the things that.

617
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: I would love to bring Saray in.

618
00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: I would have all sorts of questions to ask her

619
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:44,240
about the world and all sorts of different things.

620
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: So can you explain to.

621
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,599
Speaker 1: People how you do it, what you do, what's your process,

622
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:51,240
and what they could expect when they come in because

623
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:53,720
you have this emotional support Crystal.

624
00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:58,319
Speaker 3: Emotional support Crystal. My two tools here everyone, emotional support

625
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:00,559
Crystal and my essential oil.

626
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:04,519
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor

627
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,400
and now back to the show.

628
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:14,839
Speaker 3: So yeah, so yeah, when I channel STRAI I actually

629
00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:16,960
do use the central oils. And the way that I

630
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:19,960
use them is it's sort of something I do every

631
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,839
morning when I meditate and I'm practicing my connection with Sarra,

632
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,680
I use that scent as an anchor. It helps my

633
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,079
body memorize that altered state. And then when I'm channeling

634
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:30,920
for other people, I use the same oil and it

635
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,400
just helps my body understand that this is what we're

636
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,079
doing now, We're shifting our state so I do channel

637
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:38,599
in an altered state of consciousness. All that means is

638
00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:41,880
my brainway state is slowing down. And when Sarah comes in,

639
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,119
I mean you've experienced it this week. She tends to

640
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,480
offer a message, but it's really experiential. It's almost like

641
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:51,400
a meditation most of the time. So she guides people

642
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,119
into the experience of their true self, not as a concept,

643
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,240
but as an actual somatic experience and as a state.

644
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,960
So I invite everyone to she participate. Right, She's asking

645
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,960
you to close your eyes or breathe deeply, and you

646
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,039
want to follow along, then I would invite you to

647
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:09,240
do that and then just notice what you experience.

648
00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:12,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is almost a transmission exactly.

649
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:15,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you do feel the energy coming in and

650
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,359
you can feel the shift.

651
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,079
Speaker 1: Oh and I've definitely feel some energy this week with Sarah.

652
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:25,319
And she's a very lovely, lovely energy that comes through.

653
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:28,680
And she hasn't knocked me on my butt yet.

654
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:33,079
Speaker 3: No, she's very loving, she's a very motherly presence, right,

655
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,200
and she can be funny. I don't know that she's

656
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,480
like and that actually surprises me with you of all people,

657
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,160
that she hasn't brought through any humor.

658
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,079
Speaker 2: Yet, well, we also have not spoken.

659
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, we haven't had a conversation yet.

660
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 3: You've been filming her.

661
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,359
Speaker 1: I've been filming her, but I had not been having

662
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,319
a conversation. This will be the first conversation we've had

663
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:55,039
in this journey. So, now you've said it, and now

664
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:56,920
she's going to come in with it. What happens You're

665
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,839
going to channel Don Rickles. All of It's going to

666
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:00,200
be like.

667
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: Go, I need a joke. Now I need to say

668
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:03,400
something funny.

669
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: Let's bring Oak.

670
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,519
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll just take a moment. And so we've very

671
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:12,240
much been looking forward to this interaction and we appreciate

672
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:17,240
your participation with this interaction. And to begin with on

673
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:20,119
this day, in this moment, we'd like to ask each

674
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:22,039
and every one of you to take a very deep

675
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:26,680
breath with us. Hold that breath at the top, and

676
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,359
then as you exhale, deeply relax your physicality, focus all

677
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:35,920
of your energy and attention on deep relaxation, noticing where

678
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,640
there is tension in your physicality and creating very deep relaxation.

679
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:46,799
Continue to breathe very fully, another deep breath. As you exhale,

680
00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:52,240
relax and start to draw your energy awareness attention towards

681
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,640
yourself in this moment. So as we are speaking, you

682
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,279
are listening to this voice, and at the same time

683
00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:02,720
you are drawing your attention inwards, starting to become aware

684
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,319
of yourself, of your body, of your energy body, your

685
00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:11,640
mental body. And where we'd like to begin is we'd

686
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:16,160
like to offer you this idea that your human avatar

687
00:33:16,319 --> 00:33:20,240
self is very much like a computer. We use this

688
00:33:20,359 --> 00:33:24,359
analogy often. Your human avatar self is very much like

689
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,039
a computer, in which your physical body is the hardware

690
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,440
and your mind is the software, and you are the

691
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,039
one sitting at that computer. In other words, you are

692
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:38,960
the witness, the watcher, the observer, and so in this moment,

693
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:43,480
see if you can center yourselves as the witness. You

694
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,000
are an emanation of source, You are pure consciousness itself,

695
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:50,200
You are a being of light. In this moment, we

696
00:33:50,319 --> 00:33:53,480
ask you to remember, on a very deep level, who

697
00:33:53,519 --> 00:34:00,279
it is that you are. Feel yourselves as vibration, more

698
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,279
non physical than you are physical. So become aware of

699
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:08,039
your physicality, your physical body, and do a very gentle

700
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:12,119
scan from head to toe, just noticing what you are

701
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:19,719
experiencing physically, what sensations are arising in your physicality, and

702
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,599
then draw your awareness to the software meaning your mental body,

703
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:27,920
your mental construct, what thought forms are present in your

704
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,480
mind in this moment, if any, and as you're witnessing

705
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:34,920
those thought forms, just be aware. It's as if you

706
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,159
are looking on that computer screen and you're watching that

707
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,480
thought form stream by as a word or a sentence.

708
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,880
Don't get pulled into it. Just witness it. It's a

709
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,760
unit of energy. And then become aware of the frequency

710
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:56,760
of that thought form. Feel into the energetic emanation of

711
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,840
that thought form. Every thought form carries a frequency, so

712
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,119
begin to use your feeling sense, your emotional body to

713
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,679
feel into that frequency of that thought form. So here

714
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,679
you are the witnessing consciousness, witnessing the physical body, the

715
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,480
mental body, and the emotional body. This is your human avatar.

716
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:20,639
It is not your identity. It is the vehicle, the

717
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,239
vessel that you, the soul expresses through, but it is

718
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,760
not your identity. This energetic emanation, this essence that you

719
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:34,920
feel in this moment. As you draw your awareness towards

720
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,199
your breath, as you draw your awareness to the present moment,

721
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:43,480
use that present moment as an access point, as an

722
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:49,280
access point to this true identity self, This soul self. Again,

723
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:54,840
it's a vibration, it's an essence, it's non physical. And

724
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,039
be aware that this essence of who you are is

725
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:01,719
very much like a sun ray. You are an emanation

726
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,239
of source. So just as you could trace the sun

727
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,599
ray backwards and find the source, which is the sun,

728
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,480
begin to begin now to trace this emanation of light

729
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:18,000
that you are, and feel into the source of this

730
00:36:18,119 --> 00:36:21,360
ray that you are, this ray of light, you are

731
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,599
source energy expressing through and as this physicality, as this

732
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,360
human form. In this moment, Source energy loves to express

733
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,639
itself in form. And so just feel a sense of

734
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,440
gratitude and appreciation that you get to be the expression

735
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,920
that is you, which is completely unique, completely one of

736
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,480
a kind, and therefore completely precious. Feel into your value

737
00:36:48,519 --> 00:36:51,480
as this one of a kind, unique emanation of source energy,

738
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,360
as unique as a snowflake, no one else quite like you.

739
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:02,440
Just feel into your preciousness and then take a very

740
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:08,159
deep breath and have the sense of how loved and

741
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:14,239
appreciated you are in this moment. That love and appreciation

742
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:17,440
fills the room, whether or not you are aware of

743
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,960
it or not, it fills the room. It's a vibration

744
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,800
again of love and appreciation for who you are and

745
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,559
begin to direct that love and appreciation towards this human avatar.

746
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,519
So the body, the mind, the personality, the life story

747
00:37:36,559 --> 00:37:41,239
that is you, holding the sense of gratitude and appreciation

748
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,639
that you get to be here at this point in time,

749
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:47,800
you get to express itself. You get to be a

750
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,039
point of light, a point of awareness, a point of consciousness,

751
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,480
holding that sense of gratitude and appreciation in your heart's center.

752
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,440
And so with all that in mind, how may we

753
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,519
serve you on this day? What questions do you have

754
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:04,360
for us?

755
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,559
Speaker 1: Yes, Sarah, thank you for being here. What is your

756
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:11,159
take on what is happening right now? The chaos that

757
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:11,920
is happening in the.

758
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,079
Speaker 3: World, Well, we would say that the chaos that is

759
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:19,480
unfolding is perfect. Even if your minds disagree, or even

760
00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:23,440
if your minds do not understand, we would say, underneath

761
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,519
the chaos there is order. And just as Karen was

762
00:38:26,559 --> 00:38:31,239
speaking earlier about her personal experience, what's true is that

763
00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:35,280
oftentimes it requires chaos in order for each and every

764
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,480
one of you to wake up. So collectively, what is

765
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:42,159
occurring right now is a wake up call, a wake

766
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,719
up call, And so once again, moving back to the

767
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,880
conversation that you had earlier about whether awakening is a

768
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,199
choice or it just happens naturally, Well, the answer, at

769
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,079
least in our perspective is both. But as this chaos unfolds,

770
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,360
it's giving you a choice as to what you pay

771
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,199
attention to, where you place your attention. And what's true

772
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:07,719
for most is that the chaos is going to become

773
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,639
so intense, and for some it already is so intense

774
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:13,840
that they have no choice but to take their attention

775
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:17,360
off the external because it's too disturbing and start to

776
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:22,239
focus inwards, start to focus internally. And this is where

777
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,000
the answers are when you start to focus on an

778
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,840
inner level, asking those questions, who am I? For? What

779
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,239
purpose was I bor? And why am I here this?

780
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:38,280
These are the questions that lead to transformation, both individually

781
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,079
and collectively. So we would say, although it's very difficult

782
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:44,000
for some of you to hear this, we would say

783
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,559
nothing has gone wrong, everything is on track. We would

784
00:39:48,559 --> 00:39:51,000
say this is a call to draw your attention towards

785
00:39:51,039 --> 00:39:56,159
yourself and really do some soul searching and again awakening

786
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,960
as a choice point. Are you choosing to move forwar

787
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,840
connected with your soul self, or are you choosing to

788
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,840
be hypnotized by what is going on externally?

789
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: Where do you see the wars that are going into

790
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:14,480
right now around the world. Where do you see them

791
00:40:14,559 --> 00:40:16,199
going in the next year or two.

792
00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 3: Our senses, there may be and it is likely that

793
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,199
there will be an amplification, because again it feels to

794
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,400
us like it needs to get worse before it gets better.

795
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,079
And so for many beings, what they are being called

796
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:35,119
to do is hold their higher frequency. Those that are

797
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:39,519
listening to this broadcast may find this a little bit difficult,

798
00:40:39,639 --> 00:40:43,840
but you would understand that the frequency of war, or

799
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,280
the we should say the manifestation of war, arises from

800
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,760
a very specific frequency. So we're just leading into some

801
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,920
advice in terms of the amplification of the chaos. If

802
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,079
you are experiencing an amplification of that chaos, then what

803
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:04,719
we are suggesting you do is to understand energy and vibration,

804
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:08,440
and in some sense you need to remember that the

805
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:11,000
light workers that are here are here to hold a

806
00:41:11,079 --> 00:41:15,280
higher frequency, and so they must start to acknowledge that

807
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,559
lower frequency that is creating war and then very gently

808
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,239
start to draw their awareness towards an energy or a

809
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,920
vibration that would be of service to the collective. Understandably,

810
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,480
the most impactful or important energy or frequency that would

811
00:41:31,599 --> 00:41:34,199
be of service at this time is the energy of peace.

812
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,960
But you need to feel that peace as a very

813
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:40,239
real state of being in your own mind and body

814
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,920
before you can emanate that outward. So we would say,

815
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,039
be at peace no matter what the external world is

816
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:53,119
doing in terms of chaos, and remember your purpose here

817
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,239
as your purpose here to be a frequency holder and

818
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,880
see if you can retain your energy and attention on

819
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:02,679
that vibration of peace within your heart center.

820
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,119
Speaker 1: Where do you see the economy going?

821
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: We see the economy shifting and changing and transforming. That

822
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,679
is what we see. And we really hesitate to speak

823
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,679
certain words or give a projection about this because you'd

824
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,119
understand that we would never ever want to invite or

825
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:25,320
invoke an energy of fear. Yes, and we are not

826
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,880
saying that what we would say would invite fear, but

827
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,760
we would say it's a tender topic. And here's what

828
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,039
we would say about that. For many, if not most

829
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:39,480
of you, you equate safety with money, and that is

830
00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:44,599
really the problem because if your safety is dependent on

831
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:49,440
something externally, you will never never feel safe. What if

832
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,760
your safety were to arise from your anchor with who

833
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,440
it is you are on the deepest level, your anchor

834
00:42:55,519 --> 00:43:00,159
to source energy and your creation and deliberate cultivation of

835
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,719
beliefs that invite and invoke safety in your body. I

836
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,719
am always safe, I am guided, I'm guarded, I'm protected,

837
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,159
feeling into the essence of who you are as this

838
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,840
non physical being that can't be harmed. We understand this

839
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,760
is difficult for some, That's why we are smiling. But

840
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,480
what we are saying is very impactful if you really

841
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:23,079
get it. You cannot depend on something outside of yourself,

842
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:25,400
And again this speaks to all the chaos that's happening.

843
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,559
If you cannot depend on the external world for a

844
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:31,760
sense of safety, or security or stability, then where are

845
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,239
you going to source it from.

846
00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:37,519
Speaker 1: With all the awakening that is happening and the humanity's

847
00:43:37,519 --> 00:43:40,719
consciousness that it's evolving so rapidly right now, so many

848
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,639
people are starting to ask questions, where does traditional religion

849
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:50,360
have a place in this new awakened populace that is coming,

850
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,519
Because it's going away from what I see is going

851
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:57,400
away from the old religions and dogmas and things like that,

852
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,599
and opening themselves to new idea. He is an also

853
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:04,000
exploration within themselves. So yes, I'd love to hear your thoughts.

854
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: Well, we would say the main benefit that we see

855
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,320
with organized religion is the sense of community. And again

856
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,719
we would focus on the positive aspects of anything that

857
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,559
you bring to our attention, but we would really say,

858
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:23,360
and we would recommend that any being exploring spirituality or

859
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:28,239
religion really starts to draw their attention inwards as they

860
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,320
are exploring these topics and really get a sense of

861
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:36,039
what is resonating with them, meaning does this idea of

862
00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:39,559
this belief system feel resonant or does it feel dissonant?

863
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:45,880
And for some organized religion or traditional religion still feels resonant,

864
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:50,760
And that idea of community really is the resonation point,

865
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:54,199
meaning that is the benefit for that being. So we

866
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:57,679
would never talk anyone out of something that resonates, but

867
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,599
we would say it's only you that can decide. And

868
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:03,440
we would also say just to point out that with

869
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:09,199
organized religion, oftentimes there's a pressure around it because let's say, well,

870
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:13,199
my entire family practices this, so there's a pressure for

871
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,800
me to practice that. Also, we would say be aware

872
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:21,280
in those situations whether you really feel resonant with that

873
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,320
belief system or that religion, or whether you're just following

874
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,480
in a sense, just following, not necessarily blindly, but just

875
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:31,760
following just to keep the peace, or just to be

876
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:36,440
part of the community or the family that you were

877
00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:36,840
used to.

878
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:41,079
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

879
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,920
and now back to the show. Now, what is something

880
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,679
that humanity is getting completely wrong about awakening right now?

881
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 3: That is somewhere in the future.

882
00:45:57,199 --> 00:45:59,199
Speaker 1: Interestining you elaborate.

883
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 3: We would say, away is always right here right now.

884
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,559
So again, going back to your beautiful question, is awakening

885
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:08,760
a choice or does awakening happen? We would say, once

886
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,159
you've had an experience of awakening, which is more of

887
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:15,599
something that does happen to you, then again, awakening is

888
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:18,639
a choice that you make in this present moment, as

889
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:21,400
I'm going about my day, as I'm moving forward into

890
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:25,880
all of my experiences, my relationships, my circumstances, my environments.

891
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,960
Am I going to move into those environments and those

892
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:36,639
relation relationships with deliberate choice, with the deliberate awareness of

893
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,599
who and what I am? Because your condition mind is

894
00:46:40,599 --> 00:46:43,360
always going to be there and be present, So you're

895
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,320
always going to have these two aspects active within you

896
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:51,239
then condition mind and the higher self. And so that

897
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,000
offers a choice. Am I going to fall back into

898
00:46:54,159 --> 00:47:00,039
my habitual way of reacting and interacting or am I

899
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:03,960
going to choose a more awakened way of being? But

900
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:07,639
understand that is happening right now today, in this moment.

901
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,800
You have these choice points. It's not that I'm going

902
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,559
to awaken at some point in the future, it's now now.

903
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: What are people misunderstanding about intuition at a deeper level?

904
00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 3: What are people misunderstanding about intuition at a deeper level, Well,

905
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,800
we would say again, people think that intuition is some

906
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,880
mystical ability that they have to develop or that only

907
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,000
a few people have. We would say that's not the

908
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:40,519
case at all. Intuition is a natural ability. It's a

909
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:44,880
vibrational ability. You're all vibrational. Intuition is your ability to

910
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,719
pick up on vibration from different sources from your higher self,

911
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,280
source energy, your non physical guides, guardians, your energy, feel,

912
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,639
your future self. These are all sources of intuition and

913
00:47:55,679 --> 00:47:58,639
they are available to all of you. And we would

914
00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:02,800
echo what care And said in terms of intuition is

915
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,679
not something you develop. It's right here, right now. Your

916
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:10,079
intuition is leading you, guiding you, speaking to you in

917
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:13,719
this moment. The question is are you in the state

918
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,760
where you can receive it? And if not, then what

919
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,960
is required of you is to very gently and easily

920
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:24,960
shift your state. Shift your state. That's the missing key.

921
00:48:25,599 --> 00:48:28,000
It's not that you have to go quote unquote developing

922
00:48:28,039 --> 00:48:31,199
it or learning more or even reading a book. Is

923
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,119
that you must learn how to shift your physio physiology,

924
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,679
your physiology so that intuition can flow in.

925
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: Is there a point where too much reliance on guidance

926
00:48:43,519 --> 00:48:44,639
weakens the self?

927
00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: Which self? Are you speaking about.

928
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:50,079
Speaker 2: The self in this incarnation?

929
00:48:50,519 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 3: So the avatar self, yes, well that would be a

930
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:59,519
good thing, so we would say yes. So when intuition

931
00:48:59,639 --> 00:49:03,320
comes in, and oftentimes the experience is that it conflicts

932
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,159
with the conditioned mind because the condition mind wants to

933
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:09,960
stay small, it wants to stay safe, it wants to

934
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,079
stay in the box, it wants to stay where things

935
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:16,000
are familiar. And then the soul steps in and wants

936
00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:20,559
the opposite. The soul wants expansion, evolution, authenticity. So when

937
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:23,719
the intuition comes in and begins to weaken that conditioned self.

938
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,000
That is actually a good thing. It's not that the

939
00:49:26,039 --> 00:49:28,920
conditioned self is ever going to go away, but it

940
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:34,800
comes more translucent and more transparent, so the energetic frequency

941
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,239
of the soul self can shine through that human avatar

942
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,639
without any distortion and without any limitation.

943
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: What is the next stage of human consciousness that people

944
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,400
aren't talking about yet?

945
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,559
Speaker 3: The next stage of human consciousness that people aren't talking about, Well,

946
00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:58,719
we would say, are people even talking about the evolution

947
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,440
of human consciousness of us?

948
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: Are? We would say overall.

949
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:08,039
Speaker 3: It's not a common party topic. It's not a conversation

950
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:11,159
that many people want to have because again, there are

951
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:14,639
a lot of beings who feel more comfortable, staying safe,

952
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,440
staying small. Again, there's nothing wrong with that. So we

953
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,400
are not bringing through any criticism or judgment. It's just

954
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,679
the state of the collective. The state of the collective

955
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:27,400
very much. It's like there's labor pains right now. So

956
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,960
there's difficulty, and some are all in, some are willing

957
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:35,679
to move forward and step into it, and some are

958
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,519
still very afraid. And so we are not exactly sure

959
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:42,960
how to answer that question. We would just say that

960
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,599
be courageous, be bold, to those that are listening, that

961
00:50:47,679 --> 00:50:50,719
are willing to have the conversation, would say, have the

962
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,599
conversation and speak to others about it, but most importantly,

963
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:59,719
live your authentic, bold life in accordance with your higher self.

964
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,559
That speaks more than the conversations do. That speaks more

965
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,000
more than words do.

966
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,639
Speaker 1: Is that why there is I feel and I love

967
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:13,320
to hear your thoughts that humanity is avoiding unconsciously some

968
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,199
of these timelines that are a little bit more evolved

969
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,960
because they want to stay safe and small, because they're

970
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:20,880
afraid of the unknown.

971
00:51:21,119 --> 00:51:23,199
Speaker 3: We would agree with that. We would say, again, keep

972
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,960
in mind, you're always either under the influence of your

973
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,679
conditioned mind or your higher self, And we would say

974
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,000
it's easier to stay under the influence of your conditioned

975
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,519
mind because it's more familiar. So it's comfortable. Doesn't mean

976
00:51:35,559 --> 00:51:39,320
it's fulfilling, it doesn't mean it's authentic, but it's comfortable,

977
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,920
and your human avatar self favors that comfort because familiarity

978
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,159
equals safety. If I've made it this far, if I've

979
00:51:49,199 --> 00:51:52,119
made it this far and I'm still alive, then I

980
00:51:52,199 --> 00:51:54,119
better just keep doing what I'm doing.

981
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,519
Speaker 1: Is that kind of like what it's like to be

982
00:51:57,559 --> 00:52:00,440
in a bad relationship, but you've just has been in

983
00:52:00,639 --> 00:52:03,239
so long that you're just comfortable in it, and it's

984
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,239
more scary to leave it than it is to stay

985
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:05,559
in it.

986
00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yes, So many people have experiences in a relationship

987
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,760
or even a job situation where they know that it

988
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,159
is not a fit. They know it feels like a

989
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:17,599
puzzle piece that they're trying to jam in that doesn't

990
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:20,760
quite fit, that that hole that they're trying to push

991
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:24,559
the puzzle into. They know that they feel it in

992
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,159
every cell of their being that this isn't a fit

993
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:29,400
for me, So why don't they make a change? This

994
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,199
is a very very common experience. And the answer is because,

995
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,079
in that moment and in that situation, the condition mind

996
00:52:36,159 --> 00:52:39,840
is at the driver's seat, it's not the soul. And again,

997
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,800
nothing has gone wrong, because what we would say to

998
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,559
you is that you all incarnate for a variety of

999
00:52:44,599 --> 00:52:48,400
different experiences. So some of you incarnate and have experiences

1000
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,679
where the conditioned mind is completely in the driver's seat

1001
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:57,079
the entire incarnation. That's an exploration of frequency, that's exploring

1002
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,480
what it's like to live in that state of that

1003
00:52:59,559 --> 00:53:02,760
condition mind. But we would say, for those of you listening,

1004
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,960
what's likely true is that you want a different experience.

1005
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,760
You've been there, done that, for lack of a better term,

1006
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:13,800
you know what that's like. And so now you're curious,

1007
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,679
what would it be like to connect in with my

1008
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,920
authentic self and invite and invoke more of that to

1009
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,599
express and make my decisions. What would it be like

1010
00:53:23,679 --> 00:53:26,480
to follow that? Now, that takes a lot of courage,

1011
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:31,519
that often, if not always, invites you into the unknown. Again,

1012
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,760
your avatar does not like the unknown. It's a threat,

1013
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,280
and so it's a choice point that you make. Am

1014
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,800
I going to follow the call? And we would say

1015
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:48,000
it's also a muscle that you practice strengthening, because in

1016
00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:51,239
Karen's life, what she has found is that the more

1017
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,800
she follows that call, even in the face of uncertainty

1018
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:59,000
and fear, and she notices, well, everything actually works out

1019
00:53:59,039 --> 00:54:02,280
better than I could have planned. Well, then that's like

1020
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,239
strengthening that muscle, and then the next time it becomes

1021
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,440
a little bit easier.

1022
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,039
Speaker 1: What advice do you have for somebody who is lost

1023
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:12,440
right now and feels lost not only because of the

1024
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:15,599
chaos that is surrounding them, but the belief in the

1025
00:54:15,679 --> 00:54:18,639
chaos at the surrounding them, but also just lost, like

1026
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,559
why am I here? What is my purpose? Finding that

1027
00:54:21,639 --> 00:54:23,679
sole purpose? Finding that sole blueprint? What advice do you

1028
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,159
have for them?

1029
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,199
Speaker 3: What we would say, always always the first step when

1030
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,679
you are experiencing that is to start to draw your

1031
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:36,039
energy and awareness inwards. So when people say they feel lost,

1032
00:54:36,199 --> 00:54:39,079
what's often true is that they are looking outside for

1033
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:42,320
the answers. They are looking to the external world. They

1034
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,840
think there's some action they need to take. They think

1035
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,960
there's something they need to do, and they haven't found

1036
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,360
that yet, and they are lost. We would say, primarily

1037
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,000
what you want to do is start to draw your

1038
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:55,519
energy and awareness inwards so you can reconnect with the

1039
00:54:55,679 --> 00:54:59,119
essence of your true identity. The feeling tone, the vibration,

1040
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,360
again not as a concept, but as an actual felt

1041
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,079
experience in your body, in your energy body, so you're

1042
00:55:06,119 --> 00:55:08,480
having the sensation that who I am is more than

1043
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:13,199
my physicality. Actually feel that vibration and then quiet the

1044
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,559
mind because the mind tends to ruminate, so the mind

1045
00:55:16,599 --> 00:55:21,199
will take that thought form I'm lost, So in this moment,

1046
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,039
really see that as a thought form, not an absolute truth.

1047
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,119
Is it absolutely true that you're lost, you know that

1048
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,599
for sure? Or could that just be a thought form

1049
00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:33,239
on repeat in the mind, because the mind, the condition mind,

1050
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,480
will take that and run with it, and all of

1051
00:55:35,519 --> 00:55:37,800
a sudden, you're ruminating on that. You're finding all the

1052
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,400
reasons why you're lost, all the reasons that you made

1053
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,519
the wrong choices in the past, and all of a sudden,

1054
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:47,079
there's this mental rumination that completely takes you out of

1055
00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:51,159
connection with this energy, this essence of your true self.

1056
00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:54,559
So reconnect with your essence slower, stop the mind, and

1057
00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:57,960
then question those thought forms. Is it actually true that

1058
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:03,519
I'm lost? It looks like I'm right here? Actually am

1059
00:56:03,519 --> 00:56:04,400
I really lost?

1060
00:56:04,599 --> 00:56:04,679
Speaker 1: Now?

1061
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 3: We under we were joking with you because we understand

1062
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,320
what is meant by that, But we were saying that

1063
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,280
there's a lot of thought forms that the condition mind

1064
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,960
runs with that aren't necessarily true. The answer is always

1065
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,079
finding the essence of your true self and shifting your

1066
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:24,639
state into connection with your true self so that the

1067
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,400
actions you take from that point are in alignment and

1068
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,440
are expansive and open. And we would say, when you're

1069
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,280
in that state, if there is an action that is

1070
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,119
required of you, you will know it and you will

1071
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:39,519
take it, and you will move forward with it. Doesn't

1072
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:42,039
always mean that it is comfortable, but you will feel

1073
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:45,159
that impulse and you will move forward. But again, if

1074
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,000
you move forward, or if you take action too soon,

1075
00:56:49,159 --> 00:56:52,039
when you haven't shifted your vibration or you haven't shifted

1076
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:54,079
your state, then you're just going to be on a

1077
00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:57,920
hamster wheel and you're going to feel lost and lost

1078
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,960
and lost. It'll be like if you're in a man

1079
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,159
and you keep going down different paths to have these

1080
00:57:03,199 --> 00:57:06,320
dead ends. That's what it's like when you take action

1081
00:57:06,519 --> 00:57:08,000
before resolving the energy.

1082
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: First, what is the illusion that we must wake.

1083
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 3: Up from that you are separate?

1084
00:57:15,039 --> 00:57:16,519
Speaker 1: Can you elaborate a little bit?

1085
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: None of you are separate. You are all interconnected with

1086
00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:22,840
the web of life. You are interconnected with each other,

1087
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:27,679
you are interconnected with source. There is no separation in

1088
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,840
this moment. Really feel that some of you may wish

1089
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,280
to close your eyes and really feel the truth. Now,

1090
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,880
feel for the truth. We're not offering you words. We're

1091
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,519
offering you a broadcast and a divine truth that there

1092
00:57:41,639 --> 00:57:45,800
is no separation. So right here, right now, you are

1093
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:51,119
interconnected with every other being, every grain of sand, every animal,

1094
00:57:51,199 --> 00:57:55,519
every tree, every star, every planet, the entire universe. There's

1095
00:57:55,519 --> 00:57:59,679
an interconnection. There's a quantum field that interconnects each and

1096
00:57:59,719 --> 00:58:03,639
everyone one of you, and so what you do affects

1097
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:08,559
the entirety of this web. And we feel that if

1098
00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:12,840
you truly understood that at a very deep level, that

1099
00:58:13,079 --> 00:58:15,679
it's likely some of you would make very different choices.

1100
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,639
Speaker 1: What is the real purpose of this human experience?

1101
00:58:19,239 --> 00:58:25,719
Speaker 3: Joy? Fun? But we've shared our three e's with you before,

1102
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,000
we'll share them again. And so we like to say

1103
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:34,559
that the purpose of life is experience, expression, and evolution.

1104
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:38,920
And so number one, the experience of just being here,

1105
00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:42,079
just being alive, just being human. In the same way

1106
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:44,360
that you go to a movie theater and watch an

1107
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,039
incredible storyline and you witness all the characters and you

1108
00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:49,280
see all of the sets and all of the colors,

1109
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,559
and you lose yourself in that story. Well, that's what's

1110
00:58:52,599 --> 00:58:56,599
happening here. You love. Whether you believe us or not,

1111
00:58:56,719 --> 00:59:00,519
you actually love the experience of this storyline, and you

1112
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:03,880
love the experience of being human. It's exciting, it's fun.

1113
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:08,199
What's going to happen next? And so that's the first

1114
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,159
E experience. The second is expression. You're here to express

1115
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,639
your unique soul frequency through and as the human construct,

1116
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,880
through and as your human avatar. First you must discover

1117
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,159
what that is, feel who you are beyond form, feel

1118
00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:25,400
that authentic vibration, and learn how to express it through

1119
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,920
and as you. And then the third is evolution, which

1120
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,639
is what occurs naturally as you follow those first two ease,

1121
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,119
as you have your human experience, as you express your

1122
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:37,960
soul frequency, you very naturally expand and evolve.

1123
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: If humanity could feel one thing collectively that would shift everything.

1124
00:59:42,519 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 3: What would it be, Well, that's an easy one. It

1125
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,159
would be love. So if you could feel love, and

1126
00:59:48,239 --> 00:59:51,400
will lead you through an exercise in this moment, each

1127
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,960
and every one of you listening, if you draw into

1128
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,519
your awareness a being that you love deeply, see or

1129
00:59:57,559 --> 00:59:59,800
sense them in your mind's eye. Now, choose someone that

1130
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,440
is easy to love. Don't choose someone that you love

1131
01:00:03,519 --> 01:00:06,400
but you've had difficulty with. Choose someone that's easy to love.

1132
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,280
It could also be a pet and animal, and just

1133
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,920
bring them into your mind's eye and focus on them

1134
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:15,159
in this moment. Just feel that love for them. They

1135
01:00:15,159 --> 01:00:17,840
could also be in the spirit world. Just feel that

1136
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,880
love for them and feel the love they have for you.

1137
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1138
01:00:28,039 --> 01:00:29,320
and now back to the show.

1139
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 3: Focus all of your energy and attention on your heart

1140
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,000
center as you do this, and feel that love expanding,

1141
01:00:37,199 --> 01:00:42,400
feel the vibration the frequency of love. What does love

1142
01:00:42,719 --> 01:00:46,719
feel like? Is the question. It's not a thought form,

1143
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,639
it's a vibration. It's right here right now. What does

1144
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:54,159
love feel like as a sensation, an experience, and most

1145
01:00:54,239 --> 01:00:59,480
of all a state of being. As you bring all

1146
01:00:59,559 --> 01:01:02,400
that love of into your awareness and into your body

1147
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,599
as a state, then just drop the focus on the

1148
01:01:05,639 --> 01:01:10,920
being and focus on the energy, the frequency. Now, if

1149
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,679
you could anchor that energy, that frequency and not necessarily

1150
01:01:14,719 --> 01:01:17,920
need an excuse of a being to focus it towards,

1151
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,119
but just anchoring that as a state, and you walk

1152
01:01:20,159 --> 01:01:23,360
through the world in this way, well that would be

1153
01:01:24,119 --> 01:01:26,239
it would be a very different planet. Let's put it

1154
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,239
that way. So that feeling tone of love is a

1155
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,960
very real vibration. And you would understand that many beings

1156
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,920
who have what you call a near death experience, that's

1157
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,199
the first thing that they experience as they cross because

1158
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,559
all of the limitation that is has to do with

1159
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:46,559
the human construct. It's not that that love frequency isn't

1160
01:01:46,639 --> 01:01:49,360
right here right now. It's that there are so many

1161
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,400
limitations in the human avatar, so in the mind, in

1162
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,320
the energy body, that prevent you from experiencing that even

1163
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,559
though it's right here right now. So in the moment,

1164
01:02:01,079 --> 01:02:03,960
can you even just imagine what it's like to make

1165
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,599
that transition and to just drop all of those limitations

1166
01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:10,800
and just feel that presence of love it's right here

1167
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:11,360
right now.

1168
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:15,119
Speaker 1: And finally, is there any one thing that you would

1169
01:02:15,159 --> 01:02:17,079
like to leave the audience with that they need to

1170
01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:18,440
hear right now?

1171
01:02:19,679 --> 01:02:23,639
Speaker 3: What we would like to offer the truth of how

1172
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,760
speaking of love, how deeply loved and appreciated each and

1173
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,280
every one of you are. Some of you have forgotten

1174
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,880
this truth, and that is why you feel lost. You

1175
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,840
forget who you are, but you also forget that you

1176
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:43,280
are deeply loved and appreciated. We'd also like to communicate

1177
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,519
that if you are here, if you are here on

1178
01:02:46,639 --> 01:02:51,320
planet Earth at this particular point in human history, that

1179
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,960
means that you embody quite a bit of courage. Even

1180
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,920
if you don't feel courageous or feel that sense of

1181
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:03,320
courage right now, we promise you that you are courageous indeed,

1182
01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:05,440
thank you.

1183
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,079
Speaker 1: So much for being here, and thank you so much

1184
01:03:07,519 --> 01:03:11,559
for your joy, your love, and your wisdom. I appreciate you.

1185
01:03:12,199 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: It has been our pleasure and our honor to interact.

1186
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We appreciate you and all the work that you are

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doing to elevate and uplift, and we will leave you

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01:03:21,519 --> 01:03:24,440
with a greeting sat Na, meaning true identity. We see

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01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,880
in sense and feel and know your true identities as

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01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:30,840
beautiful beings of light. We being in broadcast this frequency

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01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,119
to you in this moment and in every moment until

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01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:35,760
you're able to anchor that energy for yourselves. And so

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01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,199
sat Nam on this day, Satnam to you.

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01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: She's back.

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01:03:48,239 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 3: She's back. My back just cracked.

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01:03:50,519 --> 01:03:54,039
Speaker 1: I not heard it.

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01:03:54,159 --> 01:03:56,159
Speaker 3: Sorry. I gave you a little adjustments there it is.

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Speaker 1: It's a free adjustment.

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Speaker 3: That was nice.

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Speaker 2: So when you come back your bit.

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Speaker 3: Loop, I yeah, I can meet well, as you know,

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01:04:02,679 --> 01:04:06,079
as you wins the last few days. Yeah, I definitely,

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01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,239
you know, I often don't remember what it said, you know.

1204
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,440
Sometimes I remember for a few minutes and then it's

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01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,199
just like the same as when you wake up from

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01:04:14,239 --> 01:04:16,840
a dream and you remember and then it's totally gone.

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01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,440
So I definitely know that I'm in an altered state

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01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:20,079
because of that.

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01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we recorded it, so you can go back.

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01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I love to record things and I can like, oh.

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01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,599
Speaker 1: That was pretty profound. That was pretty profound.

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Speaker 3: It's good. Good jobs to Ry. My best friend always said,

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01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,159
good job, good.

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Speaker 1: Job, good job.

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01:04:34,039 --> 01:04:35,159
Speaker 2: No, it's it's fascinating.

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01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:38,159
Speaker 1: I mean, you also did an episode of season one

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01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:42,320
of Channels Masterclass right with Sarai and it was beautiful,

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01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:47,280
but you actually broke down. I lost it yrying.

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01:04:47,519 --> 01:04:50,559
Speaker 3: I did. Yeah, so last time I was here, we

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01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:53,559
filmed that together, and you know, I came out of

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01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,119
the altered state and it just hit me and I

1222
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,360
just lost it and I bawled my eyes out and

1223
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,840
it was so funn because I think it was one

1224
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,960
of the people in my Patreon emailed me to say

1225
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:07,039
that they had seen it because I hadn't seen it,

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01:05:07,079 --> 01:05:09,119
and they were like, I love that you cried at

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01:05:09,159 --> 01:05:12,039
the end, and I was like, oh, he left that in.

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01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I left it all in.

1229
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 3: I totally thought you were going to cut it out.

1230
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,320
So anyways, now you call me the Weeping Channeler.

1231
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 2: The Weeping Channeler dot com.

1232
01:05:20,519 --> 01:05:23,719
Speaker 3: That's right, So you handle but I've only cried once

1233
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,840
this week, So yes, I cried this morning.

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01:05:26,679 --> 01:05:28,639
Speaker 1: Yes, a little bit, but yeah, but it.

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01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:30,039
Speaker 3: Wasn't actually channeling when I was.

1236
01:05:30,119 --> 01:05:32,039
Speaker 1: When I was, it was just yes story. You were

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01:05:32,039 --> 01:05:34,039
telling a story for one of our other shows that

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01:05:34,039 --> 01:05:36,039
we were doing on Next Level Sold TV.

1239
01:05:36,159 --> 01:05:39,079
Speaker 2: And you will be in season two of Channels.

1240
01:05:38,719 --> 01:05:42,719
Speaker 1: Masterclass as well, which will come out sometime this year.

1241
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,000
Thanks because a lot of stuff cooking at the moment.

1242
01:05:46,159 --> 01:05:48,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a lot of puts on the stove.

1243
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,559
Speaker 1: Alex Ferrari so and that brings us to the amazing

1244
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,480
mastery courses that we put together.

1245
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:55,039
Speaker 3: I'm so grateful to get a part of it.

1246
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:57,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were. It was a joy having you.

1247
01:05:58,159 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: It was a joy watching you and sar I work.

1248
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,800
And we did a course on how to find your

1249
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,960
soul's blueprint and another one about how to tap into

1250
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:06,559
your intuition.

1251
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 2: And there's links in the.

1252
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: Description below if you're on YouTube or on anywhere else

1253
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,360
you're watching this that they can watch a free webinar

1254
01:06:15,639 --> 01:06:18,320
on one or both of those, depending on how we

1255
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,159
set it all up. But you'll get at least one

1256
01:06:20,639 --> 01:06:23,000
webinar depending on which one gets released. I think because

1257
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,400
we're not going to release both at the same time,

1258
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,880
so we're going to probably release one or the other one.

1259
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,679
We haven't determined which one yet as of this recording.

1260
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're figuring it all out.

1261
01:06:31,639 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: We're figuring it all out right now exactly. But by

1262
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,119
the time it comes out, the link will be in

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01:06:37,159 --> 01:06:41,199
the description and people can watch it there. So I'm

1264
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,880
super super excited. One last question I have for you, Well,

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01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,760
first of all, where can people find out more about

1266
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,199
you and the amazing work you're doing?

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01:06:49,239 --> 01:06:53,519
Speaker 3: Any work you Yeah, Well, my website is intuitivekb dot

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01:06:53,559 --> 01:06:57,559
com KB Karen Bell, that's my nickname, so intuitivekb dot com.

1269
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,639
You can search me on YouTube and subscribe to my channel,

1270
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:03,079
and all my links are on my website, so social

1271
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:04,760
media links are at the top of my website.

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01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: So simple. Is that?

1273
01:07:06,239 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 3: Very simple?

1274
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 1: And of course they can see you on Next Level

1275
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,440
sol TV and we have all sorts of stuff that

1276
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,360
we're going to be doing with you in the future

1277
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,760
as well. So excited. One question I want to ask

1278
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,639
you before we go is what is the deepest truth

1279
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:22,880
Sarah has ever shared with you that still sticks with

1280
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:23,440
you today.

1281
01:07:24,159 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 3: Ooh yeah, that's good. I might need a minute for

1282
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,639
that one the deepest truth that she shared with me.

1283
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,760
I think it's that nothing has gone wrong. I know

1284
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,519
that sounds so simple, but she's brought that through quite

1285
01:07:36,519 --> 01:07:40,239
a few times, both to me personally and to others.

1286
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,880
So you know, I think sometimes our mind interprets what

1287
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,840
we've gone through in our lives, like if we have

1288
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,320
a hard time, or even if we have a regret,

1289
01:07:48,559 --> 01:07:50,519
or maybe we made a decision that we would have

1290
01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:54,239
done something different. Later, she often just says, well, don't worry,

1291
01:07:54,239 --> 01:07:58,159
nothing has gone wrong, right, it's either there's purpose in it,

1292
01:07:58,199 --> 01:08:01,119
for sure, but if you really look it, it's like, well,

1293
01:08:01,159 --> 01:08:04,199
that led me to this moment. And I know, for

1294
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,880
me personally, I'm so grateful to be in this moment,

1295
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,039
so like decisions that maybe I would have done differently

1296
01:08:10,239 --> 01:08:13,599
from this standpoint, well, no, but nothing went wrong because.

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01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm here, everything everything is happens exactly the way it's

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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,000
supposed to happen.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, fun, painful, all of this, the whole spectrum. She's

1300
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,199
also said, and this is along the same lines, but lately,

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01:08:24,279 --> 01:08:28,359
she she'll plug this, it'll pop into my head. She says.

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01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,479
Everything is managed by a higher perspective. Everything is managed

1303
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,800
by a higher perspective and I can see that, and

1304
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,479
I'm sure you can. When you describe how you know

1305
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:42,279
everything exploded and it's your success, is like and I

1306
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:44,880
have that too. I'm just like, I'm so aware that

1307
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,680
everything is managed by a higher perspective because some of

1308
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,159
the things that have come my way, there is no

1309
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:53,239
way I could have orchestrated that, right, And I'm just

1310
01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:55,960
so grateful too. I mean, it brings a person comfort

1311
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:56,800
to understand that.

1312
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 2: Oh, no question.

1313
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: When when our when next level soul kind of started

1314
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,920
to take off, I realized I'm like, oh, I'm not

1315
01:09:04,039 --> 01:09:07,119
in control of this. Yeah, that was that was a

1316
01:09:07,239 --> 01:09:11,000
slightly scary moment, by a freeing moment at the same time. Yeah,

1317
01:09:11,039 --> 01:09:13,319
because the brain is going like, what, you're not in control,

1318
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:17,079
but something inside like you're finally getting it. Yeah, you

1319
01:09:17,159 --> 01:09:18,640
kind of have to let you kind of have to.

1320
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,520
It's a big it's a big thing. So something that

1321
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,439
intense had to happen for me to kind.

1322
01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:26,319
Speaker 3: Of yeah, understand yourself is just sort of steering the

1323
01:09:26,359 --> 01:09:28,119
ship or just going with the flow, or how do

1324
01:09:28,159 --> 01:09:29,279
you see yourself.

1325
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 1: In that just like well, yeah, I mean you have

1326
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,880
to work. Yeah, exactly a lot of people.

1327
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 2: Make the mistake of like, oh, the universes like care

1328
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:34,920
about like you.

1329
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,359
Speaker 1: Gotta it's it's you gotta work action. You have to

1330
01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:39,000
take action. You have to get out of your couch,

1331
01:09:39,119 --> 01:09:41,640
you know, stop watching you know, something on Netflix or

1332
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,159
something like, you have to actually go out and do it.

1333
01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 3: So, even with your mastery coourse, I knew that there

1334
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,319
was a plan, and I told you this I think

1335
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:51,560
yesterday the day before. But what was really interesting to

1336
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,520
me was that someone had emailed me or messaged me

1337
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,800
and said, this was like probably six months before we

1338
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,199
talked about doing the course, and they said, you know,

1339
01:10:01,239 --> 01:10:05,279
I keep seeing you doing like channeling Sarai for Alex

1340
01:10:05,399 --> 01:10:08,239
and doing like some sort of like meditation series. I'm

1341
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:10,880
not even kidding. And then so when all this happened

1342
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:15,239
this week, I was like, this is just kind of unfolding,

1343
01:10:15,319 --> 01:10:17,800
like it was in you know, it was the Divines

1344
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,199
Idea obviously, and then it's all unfolding. But that premonition

1345
01:10:21,319 --> 01:10:25,079
that he had, he saw that this was going to

1346
01:10:25,119 --> 01:10:27,119
happen or not going to happen. But he suggested that

1347
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:29,079
I talk to you about it, and I never did.

1348
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,279
Speaker 1: No, you did not I came to you I came.

1349
01:10:32,119 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 3: To you, I was like, yeah, yeah, and.

1350
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,399
Speaker 1: Then I showed it to you and You're like, oh

1351
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:41,239
my god, let's do it. And as of this recording,

1352
01:10:41,319 --> 01:10:43,560
it hadn't been really hasn't been released yet, right, so

1353
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:48,199
we're we're going to release this interview after master gets released.

1354
01:10:48,199 --> 01:10:50,319
So well, I just don't know what's going to happen.

1355
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,920
So if it sounds like what are you talking about, Alex,

1356
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,279
it's all over the place, everyone's seeing it. I have

1357
01:10:55,359 --> 01:10:58,880
no idea as of this recording at this moment, this timeline,

1358
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,159
this timeline.

1359
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 2: Is that I have no idea.

1360
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 3: It would be interesting.

1361
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,319
Speaker 1: But when it's when you get released, we've already would

1362
01:11:05,359 --> 01:11:08,399
have released and launched Next Levels, so masteries and stuff

1363
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:08,680
like that.

1364
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 3: So and I'm excited. I actually want to watch all

1365
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:12,880
of those. I'm so excited.

1366
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I've told you some of the topics.

1367
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1368
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 3: And the teachers, Yeah, there's definitely some teachers that I

1369
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,760
love and I'm super excited. So I can't wait to

1370
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,640
dive in and watch right courses exactly.

1371
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 1: And the good thing is, and for everyone listening, if

1372
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,720
they don't know at this point, if you have a

1373
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,720
Next Levels, so if you have next levels of TV

1374
01:11:30,079 --> 01:11:32,760
and you have an annual membership right now for for

1375
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,239
a while at least, you will have access to all

1376
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,439
of the Mastery courses for your membership or if you

1377
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,239
just want to pick up a couple of years off, yeah,

1378
01:11:41,319 --> 01:11:43,479
the one off. You can buy them individually as well,

1379
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:47,760
So it gives everybody an opportunity to and we keep.

1380
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,199
Speaker 3: It pretty pretty affordable a deal.

1381
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,039
Speaker 2: It's actually kind of people have been like, Oh, that's

1382
01:11:53,039 --> 01:11:54,119
what's wrong with you? Why are you doing this so.

1383
01:11:54,199 --> 01:11:57,119
Speaker 3: Che No, it's an amazing deal. I mean, i mean

1384
01:11:57,239 --> 01:11:58,960
just compared to other courses.

1385
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,279
Speaker 1: That are out there too, horses, other platforms, other things.

1386
01:12:01,319 --> 01:12:02,600
I'm like, now, you know, we want to kind of

1387
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,039
get this to everybody, and I mean for the kind

1388
01:12:06,079 --> 01:12:07,840
of I mean, this has been a.

1389
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 3: Lot of work, A lot of work.

1390
01:12:10,199 --> 01:12:12,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a it's a lot of work.

1391
01:12:12,079 --> 01:12:14,600
Speaker 3: I mean I'm watching you. I'm like, it's been I'm

1392
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,079
seeing you editing, I'm seeing you doing the web design,

1393
01:12:17,159 --> 01:12:19,760
I'm seeing you do this that like you're doing a

1394
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,039
lot over there, Alex.

1395
01:12:21,279 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: It's it's a lot.

1396
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 2: It's a lot, but it's what I'm supposed to be doing.

1397
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's your calling.

1398
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: It's my calling. But it's been such a pleasure.

1399
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:32,359
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. It's been the best week.

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01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,560
Speaker 1: It has been the best week. And as of as

1401
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,000
of when as soon as we're done with here, you're

1402
01:12:37,039 --> 01:12:37,560
going to leave?

1403
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I'm kind of sad, Like.

1404
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: It's like we're all like, but we're playing all the

1405
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:43,119
way home?

1406
01:12:43,279 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 3: Can I just stay here and slay and you're not.

1407
01:12:47,319 --> 01:12:50,239
Speaker 1: And you're not the only teacher that said that all

1408
01:12:50,279 --> 01:12:52,439
the tas. I don't want to go. This is like

1409
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,640
so much fun. I feel it when I'm on on

1410
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,960
a film set. I like, I just like I'm in bliss.

1411
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to, I don't want I want.

1412
01:12:58,720 --> 01:12:59,359
Speaker 1: This to keep going.

1413
01:12:59,399 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 2: I know we have to.

1414
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,199
Speaker 3: It feels shit, It's amazing. It's just really felt like

1415
01:13:02,239 --> 01:13:04,000
home this week. So I'm so grateful.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate you and everything you're

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doing to help awaken the planet, and I appreciate you

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coming and playing with us and creating some amazing content

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that hopefully will help awaken people around the world.

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Speaker 3: So thank you so much. Appreciate you, Alex, thank you, Thank.

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Speaker 1: You for spending this sacred time with us today. If

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you feel called to explore this conversation further, you'll find

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the show notes for this episode at Next levelsoul dot com.

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Speaker 4: M HM.