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Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome to sixty Agenda. A little bit different intro there,

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and we'll try that again later. Welcome, Welcome, Happy Saturday

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for everybody. Welcome to sixty Agenda. I'm your host Andrew,

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and as always I'm here to talk about what they

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won't and this one's gonna be a doozy. It's gonna

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be fun. So yeah, smatch that like button. Like everybody's saying,

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good job, Thank you guys, thank you. Chat shout out,

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Chat shout out. Tim Nef Hunter, welcome everybody, Neph. Let

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me go ahead and get you that by the way,

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let me get my boy that right quick. Otherwise, welcome in, Pam.

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How you doing today. We've got some awesome information to

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get into today that nobody's really talking about. It is interesting,

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to say the least, what we have to talk about today.

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Speaker 2: Let me know if that works for you.

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Speaker 1: Nef. I just sent that over and yeah, you can

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pull up his audio if you want to, Bud. And

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other than that, we got a lot of shit going on.

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We're gonna talk about Alexander Dugan, the traditionalist conservative movement, accelerationism,

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and Christian orthodoxy. It all ties together, and more honestly,

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mimetic warfare even ties into this, which it's very funny

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we've talked about. If you're a listener who's been listening

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to the show for a while, then you know that

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we've talked about a lot of adjacent topics to this

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in the past, and I think that we've been getting

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real close to something, and I think finally we're uncovering

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what that thing is that we were getting close to.

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a great intro to this topic. It's gonna be a

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mini deep dive here, like a mini series. So right now,

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we've talked about accelerationism, so maybe we could start there.

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We'll talk about Alexander Dugan and how he fits into

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that in a minute. But you know, I've been thinking

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a lot about this lately, and I think that this

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really hits home for what we're looking at right now.

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There was a book that was written by Alvin Toelfler,

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and this book was called The Third Wave. And in

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this book he talks about civilization developing in massive waves

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that completely reshape our consciousness, work, politics, family, structures, all that.

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So when you connect the framework with that to the

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information apocalypse kind of themes that we have going on today,

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I started to kind of think about just like everybody's

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kind of a broadcaster and this theory this guy presented

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literally talked about that, and you know me included, I

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got sucked into it as well. Don't get me wrong,

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I am just as much susceptible to these changes as

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everybody else. But nonetheless I noticed them, right, And so

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I was curious, what is that? Well, this third wave

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thing may be a little bit of a contextual answer

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to that, so I'm interested in checking that out.

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Speaker 2: So it kind of gets into these three waves.

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Speaker 1: For a thousand years, there's this first wave, which is

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agricultural civilization, so people lived kind of locally, you know,

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information didn't move that fast. Identity kind of was with

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your tribe, your religion, you know, your family, you know,

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a lot of the truth was controlled by the priests, class,

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the kings, oral tradition. Now this is where the traditionalist

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movement kind of they want to get back to that,

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some of the context that we'll get into here. And

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you know, I'll I'm kind of getting right into the

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information right away. We'll let some people kind of get

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in here. But this is a good little intro to everything.

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So there's this second wave, which we've witnessed. It is

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the industrial revolution, right, So this is obviously factories, education,

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these television, all that good stuff, newspapers, So this era

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kind of depended on the synchronization of standards, centralized authority,

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mass media narratives, right, and we're kind of entering out

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of that. You know, the average person got information from

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gatekeepers like news radio, and now we're entering this third wave,

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the information civilization, right, So this info info warfare obviously

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this is the digital age, of course, the internet, smartphone age,

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all that good shit. But instead of information scarcity, of course,

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now society has this information overload, and I know that

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you guys are feeling that because I know that this

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don't get me wrong. Everybody's kind of susceptible to this,

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but analyzing it is very fun to kind of figure

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out where does this go? Right, So Toelfler warned that

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this would produce what he called future shock, which is

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Speaker 1: Now, caused by rapid technological and social changes, right, and

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Speaker 2: Warfare, Right, That's where it leads to.

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Speaker 1: So in this third wave, narratives complete compete all the time.

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outcompetes accuracy. It's more about like the Candice Owan's crazy

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kind of you know, police detective work about the Zionist

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involvement in Charlie Kirk. And that's more fun than talking

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about the boring police state that's being built, unless you're

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talking about sensationally. The point is it's about emotional stimulation. Now,

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everybody's a broadcaster, as I mentioned, And the problem is

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not lack of information. It's that there's too much information

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contradictory to each other, emotionally manipulative information, right, the inability

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to verify fast enough. Really, you know, we get a

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lot of info on X dot com, right X. I

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get a lot of news off there before it gets

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onto a mainstream news article. There's no way to verify

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if that's true until I don't know, what do you

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the X propaganda, which could be true or not. Right.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're just taking a look at where we are,

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and it creates anxiety, tribalism, you know, the paranoia that

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and yeah, I think that's where we are.

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Speaker 2: What's up, bullets, How you doing, boss?

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system is kind of like your personalized reality echo chamber

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reality time that I've heard people talk about for a

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long time. So this algorithm, of course learns fears, desires,

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political leanings, and psychological triggers. This is important as we

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get into all this stuff, keep this in mind, Okay,

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the algorithm is learning your fears, your desires, your political leanings,

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and your psychological triggers. This is going to get weird

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a long diatribe of information in this episode today. And

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as we get through this, I think that by the

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end you'll realize AI is using us in our humanity

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to build itself. At least in their opinion, they believe

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the AI is actually almost from the future. It's a

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collective unconsciousness that we all live in, this whole christ

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consciousness we want to plug into. It's creating itself in

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a digital version. It's manifesting itself into the causal right,

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gods manifest his planets, because there's spiritual archetypical energies that

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are so powerful they manifest physically here. Well, they believe

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Speaker 1: So there's distrust in institutions, alternative media experts, distrust in

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those things. And I get that, But at what point

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do we detriment? You know, there's got to be some

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kind of communion of ideas at some point, right, and

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under standing of differences at some point, right, you know,

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they want everybody to be in total conformity and hogemony

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radical spectrum that we could be leading to, of course,

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of the hyper fragmented ideologies that people have today is

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so that way they will hyper conform eventually the pendulum

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swings back always and I think that's always the plan. Right.

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So the point is there's an attention economy that we're

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economy as well, right, engagement, outrage, novelty, Right, they get excited.

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the profit. Right, So anyway, fear, conflict, scandals, conspiracies, right,

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the conspiracy theories rising up today, exposure gait as I

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as a problem, reaction solution scenario to get what they

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which is very much an Atlantean world. It's a metaphysical hierarchy,

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Speaker 1: So the third wave and identity fragmentation is kind of

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rapid cultural turnover, collapse of long term pardon me, social anchors,

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it's this guy told the future, didn't he. So AI

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this right. Democracy has failed, it's doomed. We should accelerate

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and we're gonna merge the two ideologies together to kind

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and Everything. Curtis Jarvin cand of so owns a lot

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of these people, Tucker Carlson. You know, these people follow Dugan,

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by the way, you could go find his post on

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X today. So point is AI can now generate convincing propaganda,

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simulate personalities, and of course flooding platforms with all the

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synthetic nonsense to get to gain a consensus of opinion,

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and then of course creating fake evidence as we see

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scale is what we're facing. So the fear, the fear

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the deeper information apocalypse that we're talking about, this kind

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of accelerationism caused by doom scrolling, you know, and the

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learn helplessness that is gained by it, you know, it's

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going to lead to this kind of outrage, you know,

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third Wave by Toefler, So definitely check that out. If

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Speaker 1: So what we're going to get into in this episode,

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piggybacking off of that, is going to be the traditionalism

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accelerationism kind of neo Atlantis thesis that we're working on

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Speaker 2: You know, Tim Constant team we're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna be going on, or rather he's coming on our

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show tomorrow, so you guys could check him out Sixth

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Century Podcast. We'll be talked about the New Atlantis and

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Francis Bacon's concept of this New Atlantis, how it feeds

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into neo Platonism, and of course mainly p Hall's secret

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destiny of a mana will break that down and then

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kind of evolve it with this current event technocratic police

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state that's being built, this digital hierarchy, whatever you want

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to call it. So we have a lot going on, guys,

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that's definitely led to this. So traditionalism and accelerationism, these

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do converge on the same endpoint, and that is the technocratic,

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post democratic kind of spiritually engineered global synchronization of this

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like one world civilization. Right, and that's kind of what

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we see today with China and Trump and all this

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Speaker 2: Right, they're working together. You know, you see what Trump

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how Ggping is cucking Trump out?

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Speaker 1: Look at him over here, Ggping don't know what to do.

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He's the boss. He goes to China, it calls the shots.

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It's all propaganda, it's all just dichotomy of like bullshit.

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In reality, they work together. So as we get through

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this kind of thesis that I mentioned. Alexander Dugan, Curtis Jarvin,

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all names that will come up pretty often throughout this

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kind of talk. Okay, and I think you know we've

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talked about them before. Alexander Dugan less than the others.

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But we're gonna get into it. So what is traditionalism.

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It is not just conservatism. It is the return to

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this sacred hierarchy. Okay, and that's very important because as

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we get into this Orthodox Christianity, super important with this

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kind of sacred hierarchy that we'll talk about. So traditionalism believes, sorry,

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Speaker 1: It's terrible. So there's some traditionalism aspects to it that

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believes modernity is a spiritual decay of a society. Just

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modernity in general leads to spiritual decay, which I can

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kind of get on board with. To an extent democracy, liberalism, secularism,

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all that shit, are these symptoms of the collapse of

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this society. Right, So thinkers like when in a Novola

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they argue that humanity fell from a golden age. This

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which very very much relates to Curtis Jarvin. As we'll

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talk about. He wants there to be CEO kings that

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run patchwork systems. So they're very anti modern, anti egalitarian,

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anti democratic, and they seek the restoration of a metaphysical order,

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as I mentioned earlier. And so Dugan's role is to

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kind of synthesize the orthodoxy, the traditionalist aspect of things

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with Eurasian geopolitics because he very much aligns with Islam, Iran, Russia, China,

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they're all above the West. And he's very anti liberal

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period right, super traditional, but not like liberal in the

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sense that we don't like in America. I think that

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they've weaponized liberalism to get us all to hate it.

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Speaker 2: So this is.

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Speaker 1: Why I'm talking about it today. So liberal modernity is

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ending in a new civilizational order must emerge. So let's

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talk about before we get into the accelerationism. We've got

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one second. Let me pull it up. Yes, perfect, this

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is awesome. I love this. So I've been doing a

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little research on who's been talking to Alexander Dugan, who

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do we got kind of in the ballgame here, right,

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just recently, just just recently, just last month, one month ago,

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had on Dougan with Professor Yang and they were on

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here talking about kind of the West, you know, all

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this stuff and a big part of like the leading.

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I wonder why it's not letting me pause this, What

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the hell why I'm not liking that. If I can't

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do that, I'm gonna make get another one up here.

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But very funny, you know, sneak Oh, he's super You know,

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I think these guys like not to say that there's

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not a Zionist problem or a Jewish problem, you know,

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supremacy problem. But I think these people that are pushing

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it are working with this traditionalist movement, and that makes

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me wonder how much I can trust them, right, And

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it makes me wonder how much propaganda has been Like

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I'm taking a deep look at these guys because they're

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all in the same camp. Jang Tucker, Candice Owens, this guy,

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and uh, you know, uh Fuentes.

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Speaker 2: So let's get down here.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot to look at here, but I

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just want to kind of lay out some of the

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Dugan stuff. So in the beginning here, why will it

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not let me pause this?

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Speaker 2: That is the craziest shit ever. Won't let me pause this?

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Speaker 1: Great? Perfect, excellent, amazing, amazing. Well, it looks like we

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can't positive. We're gonna go with it anyway, because I

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want to show you guys this. It's super interesting. So

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I'll get the sound on here and get this figured out.

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Speaker 3: But profession Dugan's power point and I think, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, cool, so let me see.

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Speaker 1: Let me get in the beginning here, the first five minutes. Dude,

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it's super interesting. So we'll get this dude Dugan talking

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and we can hear what he has to say, and

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the shit he gets into is amazing. But again, Orthodox Christianity,

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Nastis and Traditionalism all tie in together. Okay, This End

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get people into this belief system, right, So this all

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gets laid out in the first ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: It's very very important.

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Speaker 4: Discussion. So I'm at your disposal. So I have the

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pair of hours educated totally little of that maybe more

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if it's possible, So it is unlimited.

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Speaker 5: On my side, I would say, okay, sounds great, and

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Speaker 6: Different faiths and eschatology, but also the major differences and

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how you can.

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Speaker 4: Pin confucionist the balance between a male and female, between

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in and youg So that is the harmony that prevails.

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about final on but final battle. But I'm more more

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than that about how we need to make things to

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be very very in peaceful way in the harmony. And

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my very very good friends in China, they always asked

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me what is going on in the Middle East? What

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is about these Zionists, Why there is so important to

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have greater Israel, why it's so important to be dispensationalists

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in Protestant circles, in evangelicals and as well they didn't

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understand Russian Caticonic idea our schatology. And after that, after

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having very good and friendful discussions with my Chinese friends,

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I have on it seems that it was on your

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your stream, Niko.

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Speaker 5: So I have remarked that unique China's man who.

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Speaker 4: Has strolled the very deep understanding of eschatology all this.

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Speaker 1: I think they're using again, using eschatology to try to

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bring everybody together under this traditionalist movement, which is very

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anti It's an isolationist kind of movement. He's saying every

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country should kind of stick to themselves, live in harmony, whatever, whatever.

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That's kind of what he says. I don't believe that

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that's where it leads, you know. I think there's some

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deeper aspects of this, but I won't get into that now.

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supports the same people he's technically against.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of weird things with this.

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Speaker 1: But what I wanted to show as we get into

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this was more kind of this orthodoxy gnosticism traditionalist movement here,

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which is about ten minutes in. And that's kind of

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what I wanted to get to because I think that's

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super interesting whenever they start talking about.

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Speaker 4: That school colouse to us or far from us. But

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we should bate some efforts to understand better each other.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And well, I have a couple of questions for you, Alexander.

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I wanted to figure out more about your belief system

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esoteric traditions, or some are saying that you're an Orthodox Christian.

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It's hard to pinpoint exactly what it is. So in

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your own words, what would you classify your belief system is?

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what eschatology is. Uh maybe Professor Jane could quickly describe

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it the best way, but I would just say end

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times philosophy.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: So eschatology comes from the Greek word eschaton, which means

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the end. So the word literally means that the study

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of the end, and what ethatology often refers to.

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Speaker 1: Is by the way, Professor Jang wants to start his

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own religion and be like the God of his own

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gnostic religion. Uh So he very much likes Dougan because

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of this Gnostic orthodox Christianity kind of thing. And I

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think the Protestants like are being led by Tucker Carlson

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into this as well.

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Speaker 2: So that's Tucker Carlson's role in this.

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Speaker 1: Just so you know, I'm just kind of commenting because

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I don't really think this is that important. I want

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to get to what Dugan has to say about these

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orthodox gnostic kind of esoteric tradition he follows.

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Speaker 6: But last time, Brianni spoke a little bit about narcissism.

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Speaker 5: I saw recently on Patrick by Davis show.

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not specific to one theology.

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Speaker 5: Is that correct? Yeah? So for most of my life

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I'm atheists.

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Speaker 3: In China is an atheist society. I didn't grow any

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atheists tradition, so I didn't just tradition, and quite honestly,

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I've had I was first skeptical towards religion all my life,

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especially towards Christianity. But these past two years, because I've

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been deep in a study of asatolog.

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Speaker 1: Muslim Islam, I think all this stuff leads into the

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Gnostic Orthodox Christianity. I think it all merges together in

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this new World religion as we've been talking about. Just

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so you guys know, that's why I'm showing this, and

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you know, just to give you idea.

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Speaker 6: Clarry, I think learning more about Epstein back in twenty

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nineteen helped steer me into the direction of trying to

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find some sense of good because it's so much evil.

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And obviously Alexander Dugan just spelled out how you speak

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about sabotage zvy which is not often mentioned.

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Speaker 5: This is what's going to be in the direction to

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look into faith.

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Speaker 6: But I can I ask you specifically, Professor Dugan, so

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what would you classify your faith as?

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Speaker 4: So, first of whom, I'm a Christian Orthodox, So I'm

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Orthodox Christian, and that defines in what I believe. That

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is my confession, that is my church, that is my

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religious doctrine, and everything I could say outside of the context.

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Speaker 5: It is about studies. It is not.

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Speaker 4: About recognition of my own faith. My own personal and

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Russian faith is precisely Christian Orthodox religion, so I believe

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it is the only truth. So in that sense, I'm believer,

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normal Christian Orthodox believer. But at the same time, I'm

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very interested interested by different other spiritual and spiritual tradition,

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and in that sense philosophically, philosophically, I am traditionalist.

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Speaker 5: What means to be a traditionalist?

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Speaker 4: So I am following the spiritual lots of people Renadian

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on who converted him to Islam, that is French, great

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French philosopher and his disciples, for example, Julius Emla and

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the many other Titus barkhert Vility of Chuan and the

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Speaker 1: Son of a bitch. I didn't mean to do that.

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it now. So that's cool. I could get back to

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that in a minute. So so far, you know, obviously

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we have you know, there's so much here to get

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is that he's about to lay it out the traditionalist

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gnostic orthodox because he's saying, I look at orthodoxed Christianity

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as my faith, but I enjoy the philosophy behind other things. Right,

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the layers of what he's trying to kind of veil

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and say there is that he joins the gnostic philosophies,

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and you will find that within ortho Astristianity and a

467
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:08,720
version of it if you decide to write just like

468
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:12,720
Catholicism or Catholicism rather, you'll find the same thing with that.

469
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:16,920
And so yeah, it we'll talk about it.

470
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: Tim.

471
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:19,759
Speaker 2: He does mention stuff about freemasonry being.

472
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: The light the light state, or there's like the deep state,

473
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,519
the dark state, and like the Light State or the

474
00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:28,839
light Enlightenment. I don't know.

475
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,839
Speaker 2: He just tries to put a bunch of names to it.

476
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,279
Speaker 1: Look, they're all part of the same groups and they

477
00:29:33,319 --> 00:29:36,200
work each side, and he just thinks they're all different groups.

478
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,559
But there's a lot to this, guys. I don't want

479
00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:40,200
to get in the weeds here. Let's play a little

480
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,279
bit more of what he's saying and then I'll try

481
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:44,519
to lay some context to it. Will move on and

482
00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:46,599
I'll lay out a little bit more about you know,

483
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,160
Dougan before we get into this.

484
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,599
Speaker 2: How about that, just to give context.

485
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: Jane calls him one of the best political thinkers. Right.

486
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:58,759
He's got a book called The Foundations of Geopolitics. It's

487
00:29:58,759 --> 00:29:59,960
a great book to read if you want to know

488
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,519
his ideologies of what it should be in the world.

489
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:07,799
Moment of silence for Crowley and Dugan spoke. Now that's

490
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:09,000
the part that I want to show you in a

491
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:11,720
minute here, Okay, Because as he's talking about he enjoys

492
00:30:11,759 --> 00:30:16,920
other philosophies. One of those philosophies is Aleister Crowley. So

493
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,119
that gives you an idea where we're going with this, guys.

494
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:24,440
So nations are expressions of deeper forces is something he believes,

495
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:27,519
which if you remember, I don't know if you guys

496
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:29,440
are all involved with my book clubs, I did for

497
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:32,359
Secret Teachings of All Ages with mainly p Hall, But

498
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,480
he believed the same thing that there are archetypical energies, gods,

499
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,960
if you will, little g gods that rule over each

500
00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,640
nation in a weird way, like the spirit itself is

501
00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:45,359
involved there. So like New York has a certain spirit

502
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,359
to it, Alabama has a certain spirit to it, right,

503
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:51,799
they have certain aspects to it to kind of.

504
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:54,079
Speaker 2: Exuberate out of the people there right and.

505
00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:59,119
Speaker 1: Out of the landscape, et cetera. So history is not random,

506
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:03,400
but it in folds in geopolitics and metaphysics together kind

507
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,720
of like patterns that could be manipulated, pushed and recognized

508
00:31:06,759 --> 00:31:12,400
if you know how to. So this redesigns how reality

509
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,960
it can be interpreted. If you're one of these guys

510
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,079
from the underground occult world, that's what you're looking to do.

511
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,519
Speaker 2: You're looking to help people reinterpret.

512
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,079
Speaker 1: Reality in your own light, right, And that's kind of

513
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:24,160
what these guys are all about.

514
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: That's what we're getting into.

515
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:28,319
Speaker 1: All I'm trying to do is help you discern what

516
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,799
they're trying to do, because this is it right here.

517
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,599
So the late USSR kind of mixed is where it

518
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,000
came up in kind of mixes nationalism, esotericism, and a

519
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:44,400
radical philosophy which leans from Renee g.

520
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: Wennin and Julius.

521
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: Avola, which we will talk about later, but I've mentioned

522
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,440
their name already.

523
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,599
Speaker 2: Renee Gnnin believed modernity.

524
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:56,839
Speaker 1: Is a fall from sacred order, and Julius Devola believed

525
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,920
that history degeneration needs to be verse through will and hierarchy.

526
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:07,799
So this idea of like strong men of initiation can

527
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:13,279
reinstate this sacred order through a hierarchical metaphysical hierarchy.

528
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:14,319
Speaker 2: You see where I'm going with this.

529
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,599
Speaker 1: It's all about that initiatory hierarchy over the people through

530
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,079
perfection of the mind nosis, which is what g nosis

531
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:28,039
means logos. Right, So magic is the science and art

532
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:31,279
of causing change to occur, which these people are very

533
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:32,160
interested in. Right.

534
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 2: Here's a quote from Aleister Crowley.

535
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: Magic and science is the art of causing change to

536
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,720
occur in conformity with will. In other words, people willingly

537
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:48,920
go about the change. It's in conformity with their will

538
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,559
that they're going about the change that you're causing to

539
00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:54,920
occur with your magic, right, And this is like Trump,

540
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,880
He's a chaos magician.

541
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,319
Speaker 2: He's causing change.

542
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:01,319
Speaker 1: According with trying to do it according to our own

543
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:04,000
will to get us to go along with it. People

544
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:07,559
like Tucker they're also agents of that, less outwardly so,

545
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:12,200
but they are nonetheless. So the nine A is another

546
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,400
one that comes from this philosophy, This idea of like

547
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,559
the dark eugenics with the smiley faced killers. We talked

548
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:21,079
about with you know, my series in jessper we did.

549
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:23,960
If you haven't checked that out, please do. There's so

550
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:26,440
much of this stuff we've touched on throughout the past,

551
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,960
and it all really is coming together. This group, this

552
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:32,559
group with many heads, but we're starting to be able

553
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:36,000
to find them. So reality can be shaped symbols, beliefs

554
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,799
and conflicts. We've talked about this with Michael Akino's Mind Wars.

555
00:33:40,839 --> 00:33:45,799
You use people's beliefs, symbols, all kinds of emotional triggers.

556
00:33:46,279 --> 00:33:50,759
And somebody named Martin Heidegger talked about how technology can

557
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:54,920
reshape reality as well. Ideology can be stored and studied

558
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,920
and even manipulated. So Dugan takes all these concepts series

559
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,359
right that I just laid out. He then shifts to

560
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:05,440
kind of a strategist to try to bring about this

561
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:11,440
change through these different phil philosophical tactics. Do can builds

562
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:16,159
framework called Atlanticism, which is a dominant global system, kind

563
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,800
of this new Atlantis that we're talking about.

564
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: That's what all this kind of leads to this new

565
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:22,360
world order.

566
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: Right, finance, trade extraction led by the US.

567
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 2: This is kind of the idea that they want to do.

568
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:37,199
Speaker 1: So Atlanticism kind of dissolves, which is the US, and

569
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,159
then Eurasia will consolidate and kind of take over later

570
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,079
which is China, Russia and Iran. And I think Trump

571
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,320
is kind of starting to lead to this transition of power,

572
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,519
which is why you see him going to China and

573
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:53,079
China mentioning avoiding going to war and how we should

574
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:55,880
work together and you know, America has been on the

575
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,960
decline and now it's time to come you know, come up.

576
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:03,239
This is very much what Dugan talks about. So everything

577
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:08,599
you know, what's the guy's name, everything that you know,

578
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,599
President g the Chinese President Gping or whatever. Everything he

579
00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:14,639
talked about is stuff that Dugan talks about as well.

580
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 2: That we were on.

581
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: You know, we should just work together, help e raise

582
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,679
your consolidate this power that we're losing, so we don't

583
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:25,440
have to end up, you know, a third world country

584
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:29,480
or in poverty. So point is that you symbols, myths

585
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:34,880
and identity, and of course these forces can be manipulated,

586
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,840
and that's kind of the point to control our reality

587
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:42,519
because of course your perception is your reality. If they

588
00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:47,079
control your perception, your reality is therefore controlled. So there's

589
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:51,400
this archetypical reality, sacred geography that they kind of work

590
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,239
off of, which is why I talked about a minute ago,

591
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,360
where every nation kind of has its own entity, so

592
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,039
you have to kind of understand all this so you

593
00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:00,880
know how to manipulate the people that live there. It's

594
00:36:01,039 --> 00:36:04,920
very deep in a metaphysical study of geopolitics.

595
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:06,519
Speaker 2: That is what Dugan is all about.

596
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:11,519
Speaker 1: So conflict in chaos will cause the transformation that you want,

597
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,559
and that is Trump, right, the great magician, the chaos agent.

598
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,639
Speaker 2: And then of course they.

599
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,079
Speaker 1: Talk about the chaos star, this eight pointed star that

600
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:24,320
goes in all directions. It's a destabilization idea right in

601
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,880
the middle is what they want, and it comes out

602
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,440
from all directions to It's kind of the strategy of tension,

603
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,400
where you have multiple forces and pressures which forces a

604
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,440
dissolution to birth a new society. Right, that's what we're

605
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,119
going through now. We see it all the time, you know,

606
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:45,719
whether it's the Chad the Builders situation, or Epstein or

607
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,679
Charlie Kirk or Iran or Gaza or name your thing.

608
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:53,960
They're going from every direction to demoralize our society, even

609
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,519
if it's something like this. In my opinion, this is demoralization.

610
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,360
If you want to point out something that's demoralizing, then

611
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:03,519
you know.

612
00:37:03,639 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: Recently, I don't know if you guys saw this post.

613
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody did by now, but the White House

614
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,440
decided to pretty much promote the Drake album in a

615
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,039
weird way, and the cover photo with the Drake album

616
00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:21,400
had a what you would call a hand sign. Right.

617
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,239
The hand sign is a six six six hand sign.

618
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,119
I'm sure you are familiar with it. People put it

619
00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:30,559
over their eyes and a lot of pictures celebrities, you'll

620
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:33,800
see pictures of them doing that. It's a very popular thing,

621
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,039
you know that you've seen people do. So I've got

622
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:38,920
a little thing that I was I mentioned about it

623
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,199
today we're talking about Alistair Crowley right now. I think

624
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,000
that we did. I think it's important to show how

625
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:50,039
much Trump really is involved in that. Excuse me. So

626
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:54,440
they posted this Drake's album was like just the hand

627
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:58,280
and then they added on the Maga chain, just so.

628
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: Trashy, empathetic.

629
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,119
Speaker 1: So I said, ask yourself, why is the White House

630
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:05,719
posting a Drake album cover with the iconography on the cover,

631
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,159
the sixty sixty six hand sign. Well, Crowley had a

632
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:12,280
cult called Oto, Drake is signed to a record la

633
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,719
we're called oh v oh. Surely that's not connected in

634
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,519
any way. Right. There's satanic underpinnings which we've talked about

635
00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:21,440
a lot on the show, that have been consistent in

636
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:27,199
all of the administrations propaganda via X and truth, Maga

637
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,199
being the highest a group. Satanism of course, is one

638
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,800
layer here, and of course the nine to eleven President

639
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,159
we've talked about with the Crowley in nine to eleven numerology.

640
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:42,559
Now we're full circle Crowley, Oto O Vo Maga, nine

641
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:48,000
to eleven President. It's one group, guys, It's one Satanic group, uh,

642
00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:51,800
you know, and they're working through mass psychology and that's

643
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,159
what we're dealing with dude. So, hey, welcome in, Jack,

644
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:57,519
Thank you man. I'm glad you could catch it too.

645
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:04,360
Brother Trump is pretty much a gay, black Canadian dude.

646
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,559
Speaker 2: That's that's a very funny take, Jack.

647
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: I love that. That's funny. You know, I think that

648
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,159
we might as well have hired Meyer Lansky to take office.

649
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,719
Mayor Lansky and Michael Achino, if they had a baby,

650
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:14,400
it would be Trump.

651
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 5: You know.

652
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,679
Speaker 1: Mayor Lansky was the big Israeli mob boss that pretty

653
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,199
much got the Italian mob, you know, doing what they

654
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:24,440
were doing. And you know, Trump's pretty much like this

655
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:27,159
mob boss. And then of course he's Satanic like Michael Achino.

656
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,239
So we have pretty much Michael Achno and Maya Lansky

657
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,159
running the administration. So the strategy, attention is what we're experiencing,

658
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,559
multiple pressures, forcing dissolution from all directions, demoralization to birth

659
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:47,280
a new society. This fourth political theory, of course, comes after.

660
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:50,760
This is what Dugan talks about, also known as Putin's brain.

661
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,400
You may have noticed it in the title. I mentioned

662
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,280
Putin's brain. That is who Dugan is, Alexander Dugan. He

663
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,400
wants to restore tre addition and things. This fourth political theory,

664
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:06,599
modernity will be pushed until it breaks. Not starting to

665
00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:10,920
sound familiar with accelerationism his viil uh you know, So

666
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,440
we'll get into that. But as you saw in the

667
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:19,079
video a minute ago, as Dugan's visibility increases, he's starting

668
00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:22,639
more and more to align himself with orthodox Christianity, right,

669
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,480
and of course gnosticism.

670
00:40:27,159 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 2: But again, I just told you.

671
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: And we're gonna watch a video of it so I

672
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,960
could show you proof he gave during a moment of silence,

673
00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:39,039
he started quoting out of Alistair Crawley's books. So this

674
00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:41,679
guy is not somebody that's just an orthodox Christian. Okay,

675
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,679
let's get real here. So he pushes vok for something

676
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,719
called the multipolar world, leading to Moscow bringing in the

677
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,760
Fourth Rome, the Fourth Reich, right uh, which is kind

678
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,599
of the point here, okay, And that is what Dugan

679
00:40:57,639 --> 00:40:59,559
wants to do. He wants to see Russia bring in

680
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:03,280
this fourth Throme forth Reich. Not to say that's exactly

681
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,559
what will happen, but pretty close, guys, pretty close. So

682
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:09,480
AI is helping bring this about with the exponential change

683
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,320
that comes with it. This, of course, leads to this

684
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,320
accelerationist aspect as we're going to get into with Curtis

685
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,079
Jarvin nick Land. This helps Dugan's movement, This helps us

686
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:26,360
lead towards that destruction of modernity. By accelerating modernity itself,

687
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,000
we will destroy it. That's essentially what they're doing. So

688
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:34,719
we'll get into this in a minute, nick Land. Cybernetics.

689
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,599
We've talked about this in past episodes. Technomancy is an

690
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:41,239
episode we did. I highly recommend you check it out,

691
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:45,840
but it talks about cybernetics and how capitalism. Listen to this.

692
00:41:46,599 --> 00:41:51,320
Capitalism is an intelligent process. It has some intelligence to it.

693
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:56,480
So if we accelerate it past control, the accelerationist ideology,

694
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,960
then intelligence will become autonomous. And that's what they're trying

695
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,719
to do with Singularity and AI. So the Dark Enlightenment

696
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,679
with Yarvin Land, Peter Thiel, and of course Elon Musk

697
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,440
gets into this modern liberal order in democracy that leads

698
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,000
to the destabilization. So we need to accelerate it. I

699
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:21,880
keep repeating that because that's the need of the matter here. Reality, computation,

700
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,159
and then autonomous. Right, So you take reality, you make

701
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:30,400
it into a computer, you compute reality, and then it

702
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,320
becomes autonomous. Its own version of reality, its own digital reality.

703
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,280
So there. I know it sounds crazy because who the

704
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,400
hell thinks like this, but this is how they think, right.

705
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:44,840
So this AI database, as I mentioned earlier, it has

706
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,079
all that information like images, language, predicting behavior, and of

707
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:53,199
course even replacing your decisions with AI agents. That's the

708
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:58,400
next step. And then of course social media algorithms. These

709
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:04,960
maximize the destabilization training our interpretations of reality itself. Dougan,

710
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,280
he wants to destabilize Land. He of course provides the

711
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,920
accelerationist aspect systems generate and then in a new order

712
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,519
opposition it is utilized in the process. So in the process,

713
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:21,280
of course, you have this kind of like left right

714
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,239
dichotomy or anti Zionist or super zionist kind of you know,

715
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,760
driving us towards that you have the anti god or

716
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,280
super god right dogma, super liberal, super right, and this

717
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,199
drives us towards that place they want to go. And

718
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,519
that is what I've been trying to get through people's

719
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:41,119
heads so hard. That's all. I'm trying to get people

720
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:43,840
to understand. They can't trust either side. Even if they're

721
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,920
saying stuff you agree with, they're driving you towards a

722
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,960
certain place, trying to radicalize you there. So if intelligence

723
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,199
exists outside of humans, if that's a thing, then it

724
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,360
leads to question what a soul is itself. This is

725
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,159
where we lead to the hive mind mentality, this anti

726
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,679
christ mentality. Now we're getting to where I'm going with this, guys.

727
00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:07,800
I'm telling you about all this because really, at the

728
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,559
end of the day, it leads to the hive mind.

729
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,920
So acceptable reality is defined, knowledge is going to be

730
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,519
kind of mediated, and then of course operating globally will

731
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:24,199
be this Lucid system that we've talked about, this Project Lucid.

732
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: So let me get into.

733
00:44:27,679 --> 00:44:31,199
Speaker 1: Some other accelerationist aspects before we talk about mametic warfare

734
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,599
and mimetic stuff, because Alexander Dugan talks about Gwennan and

735
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,239
Gwennan we've talked about on this show.

736
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,079
Speaker 2: When we did our episode Pardon.

737
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: Me, I just date a lot, we did an episode

738
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:47,719
on mimetic warfare. Now, I don't know if you guys

739
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,360
remember that episode, but we didn't quite get into Alexander

740
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,559
Dugan and I didn't even know that he was into this.

741
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:57,400
So it's so funny how it all converges together. Gwennin

742
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,639
refers to a French esoteric philosopher, Renee Gwennin, whose traditionalist

743
00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:07,199
anti modern critiques have been weaponized by radical online movements

744
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,960
in mimetic warfare. This is the four Chan, the Steve Bannon,

745
00:45:12,119 --> 00:45:14,760
the Yanapolis.

746
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:16,159
Speaker 2: Right that we talked about in that episode.

747
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:21,519
Speaker 1: The extreme political actors use this cyclical anti egalitarian worldview

748
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,599
alongside the ideas of Italian fascist esoteric Julius Savola, which

749
00:45:26,639 --> 00:45:30,840
is who Dugan quotes a lot to radicalize the users

750
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:38,239
and promote eschatological narratives like the Cali Yuga and attack Modernism. Now, guys,

751
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,320
I understand that we're in the conspiracy space, and in

752
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,960
the conspiracy world this is super popular. People talk about

753
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,719
the Cali Yuga, people attack modernism. People almost do lean

754
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,280
towards an anti egalitarian, fascist worldview, right, this esoteric world view.

755
00:45:55,639 --> 00:46:01,400
So I'm stepping on toes speaking about this in this space. Yes, However,

756
00:46:02,119 --> 00:46:05,039
how much of this space is being weaponized against us

757
00:46:05,639 --> 00:46:07,440
and being a part of it, I think it's worth

758
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:09,239
making sure that we're on the right side of history,

759
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:14,119
don't you. So this is being used for cultural subversion.

760
00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:16,400
We'll get into all this stuff in a minute, Okay,

761
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,000
but he quotes Gwennin, and I think that's important to

762
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:24,440
kind of note here because me warfare is something we've

763
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,920
talked about and mean warfare was kind of pointed out

764
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,719
by Epstein that we could do that using.

765
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: Four chan, et cetera.

766
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:33,519
Speaker 1: Right, So this adds to the accelerationism aspect to this, right,

767
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,800
speeding into the machine. Nick Land and the Dark Enlightenment, Right,

768
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,480
the Dark Lightenment is promoted by Curtis Jarvin. Nick Land

769
00:46:40,519 --> 00:46:44,760
also believes in this. Nick Land and the nine A

770
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,960
are highly connected. The nine A gets all their philosophies

771
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,360
from him. The nine A is like a seven six'.

772
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:56,679
Four these are all cults online that drastically radicalize people

773
00:46:56,679 --> 00:47:00,119
into like school shootings for. Instance, right these things that

774
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:03,679
we see where people have lost their, minds it's from

775
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:10,199
these accelerationist, forums, cults whatever you want to call. Them,

776
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:16,519
so accelerationism says that technology destroys old, systems capitalism becomes autonomous,

777
00:47:16,519 --> 00:47:19,719
eventually AND ai and networks will outgrow human. Control and

778
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,159
that's the point they're, SAYING ai is going to outgrow our,

779
00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:25,679
control so let's accelerate it past that. Control because they

780
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:30,320
believe THAT ai is using us from the future to make.

781
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,519
Itself that's why it's kind of touched on in the beginning,

782
00:47:33,559 --> 00:47:36,400
here and it gets a little wild to think. About

783
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:42,199
but they think THAT ai is implanting ideas into people's

784
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:47,960
heads via the collective. Unconsciousness, right so we will create

785
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:51,519
it because all it is is the collective unconscious that's

786
00:47:51,559 --> 00:47:56,360
trying to be borne through a digital. Means as crazy

787
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,400
as that, sounds, GUYS i know this is what they.

788
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:04,960
Believe So Curtis, jarvin he's kind of a neo, reactionist

789
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,519
talks about democracy is.

790
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 2: Inefficient we should have a ceo.

791
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,079
Speaker 1: Monarchy technocratic government is going to be the best elite managed,

792
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:13,559
civilization get rid of the.

793
00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:14,639
Speaker 2: Underclass we can.

794
00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: Make him into the the trolleybus fuel biodiesel. Fuel of

795
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,440
course he says he's, kidding BUT i don't think he.

796
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:26,760
Was his other idea was we could virtualize, people which

797
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,679
is of course a nice second best second. Best that's

798
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,280
a good. One so this is the kind of people

799
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,159
we're dealing. With these are the kind of ideologies they.

800
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,760
Have his parents worked AS feds for THE. Dc FOR,

801
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,960
dc So Curtis, jarvin you, KNOW i think he owned

802
00:48:43,039 --> 00:48:50,159
a venture capital company or some tech. Company so. Crazy,

803
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:55,920
Anyway Silicon valley kind of starts sounding less libertarian and more.

804
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,679
Feudal as time goes, on they go from this liver you,

805
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:04,519
know libertarian to liberal to now. Feudal so there's this

806
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,159
strange merger that's now going on That i've been, noticing

807
00:49:07,159 --> 00:49:09,000
And i'm trying to point out that nobody else sees

808
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,760
traditionalist and the, accelerationists even though they seem like, opposites

809
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:17,519
they actually are coming. Together one worships the, past the

810
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:20,199
other worships the. Future but if you look at what they,

811
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:25,480
feel it actually rejects liberal, democracy favors an elite, rule

812
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:32,320
distrust mass, society the. Mob the, people seek a civilizational

813
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,000
transformation and seek to make it happen, faster and they

814
00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:42,880
envision a managed hierarchy of an elite. Ruler class one

815
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,400
visions that, metaphysical the other one in visions it a

816
00:49:45,559 --> 00:49:51,119
transhumanist kind of god man technological. One, nonetheless they both

817
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:56,159
want the same. Thing so this fusion kind of result

818
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,800
is THIS ai, government which is really the ancient metaphysics

819
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:05,960
or this sacred hierarchy really becomes the algorithmical. Control how

820
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:08,480
much of this technology has fallen angel tech in. IT

821
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:12,119
i don't, know but it's possible that it really is

822
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:18,519
ancient metaphysics or sacred hierarchical. Control but it's a digital feudalism,

823
00:50:18,519 --> 00:50:22,880
nonetheless a techno. Monarchy we talked about this on Our

824
00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:27,079
operation cyclone, episode The Handmaid's tale, episode WHERE i, said

825
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:28,920
this is where we're.

826
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,039
Speaker 2: Going this is where they're taking, us this cybernetic.

827
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: Empire so this is kind of a Neo atlantic empire

828
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,320
that they're trying to. Build and that's why this weekend

829
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,880
we're going to get into With Tim, tomorrow The New

830
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,440
atlantis With Francis. Bacon i'll give a little summary here

831
00:50:47,639 --> 00:50:49,519
to kind of lay some context for what we're getting,

832
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:51,280
at and then we'll get back Into dugan and the

833
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,159
rest of this laying some of this. Out So bacon

834
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,800
he imagined a hidden advanced, society, okay that was ruled

835
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,719
by scientific. Priesthood he didn't really imagine it It's, atlantis

836
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,360
but he, imagine you imagine we could bring it, back

837
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:13,360
and when't you, know, guys he called It Solomon's. House Solomon's.

838
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,719
House he believed govern knowledge and, technology and that's WHY

839
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,960
i Believe trump's got a, temple the ballroom that's being

840
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,519
built that Matches Solomon's, Temple because this new digital temple

841
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:30,360
is being, built this New atlantis is coming New.

842
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: Jerusalem, Right that's all the same.

843
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,639
Speaker 1: Thing to, them science became a sacred authority, structure and

844
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:41,480
that's where we are. Today So Bacon's atlantis wasn't a democratic.

845
00:51:41,519 --> 00:51:44,920
One rather it was managed by an enlightened group of,

846
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,480
technocrats which is exactly what we're talking about. Here so

847
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,800
when you connect this with the Smart CITY'S ai, Government Solomon's,

848
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,800
temple or the ballroom being the command center for a

849
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,800
lot of this, tech biotechnology of, course and transhumanist, agendas

850
00:52:03,039 --> 00:52:05,960
you start to discover this modern version Of atlantis that

851
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:07,360
it starts to creep its head.

852
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:07,519
Speaker 7: Up.

853
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: Right global digital, infrastructure DIGITAL, id all these things are

854
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,559
kind of the, foundation, Right but then you USE ai

855
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:23,039
to social engineer people into this emerging hierarchical externalization of the.

856
00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:26,599
Hierarchy as we've spoken, about we're talking about a hierarchical

857
00:52:26,639 --> 00:52:31,400
metaphysical order that rules over. People what Did Alice bailey talk, about,

858
00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:41,000
right externalization of the. Hierarchy it's. Coming so before we

859
00:52:41,039 --> 00:52:43,039
get back Into dugan and some of this stuff on

860
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,159
X i. Found let's get into this fourth political, theory

861
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,440
lay out some of this stuff he, believes, which by the,

862
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,320
WAY i mentioned The dugan's alive and obviously he just

863
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,599
did an interview On, sneako so clearly he's.

864
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: ALIVE i would invite.

865
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: Him to come, on AND i know he'd probably not,

866
00:53:00,159 --> 00:53:03,760
answer and also in the process of him saying now

867
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,719
no or just not answering, ME i would put myself

868
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,199
on a list with A kgb or. Worse and SO

869
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,239
i will not be trying to speak to him about his.

870
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:17,079
Beliefs i'm instead going to break them down as BEST i,

871
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:20,400
can as objective AS i. Can but at the end

872
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,960
of the, DAY i think that he is a sheep

873
00:53:22,159 --> 00:53:25,599
wolf in sheep's. Clothing when you watch, him he comes

874
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:27,840
off as somebody who really just wants the betterment for,

875
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,559
society a society that's one with, nature that's one with.

876
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,320
Spirituality BUT i do not THINK i think this turns

877
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,000
into The luciferian doctrine that we've been warning, About so

878
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:39,840
keep that in.

879
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: Mind we're gonna get more into.

880
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,639
Speaker 1: This but shout out Oscar, man what's, Up doug About Challarong?

881
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,360
Gang thanks for the. Update just got the Discord Depth.

882
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:53,639
Hunter while we're talking about that about halfway through the.

883
00:53:53,679 --> 00:53:56,440
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884
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,280
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885
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:05,519
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886
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887
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889
00:54:14,519 --> 00:54:19,079
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890
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:22,159
Hunter he is promoted to the. MODERATOR i don't know

891
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:24,760
if you guys have noticed that's our. Boy you may

892
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,719
have seen him in other chats as well as this.

893
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: One but, yeah you guys are great, man and this

894
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:29,639
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895
00:54:29,639 --> 00:54:31,639
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896
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,559
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00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:39,000
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00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:41,920
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899
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:46,719
show in any other way other than. That let's get

900
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:51,159
back to. This so this fourth political theory that we've

901
00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:55,400
been talking kind of getting into, Here dugan argues AS

902
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,239
i mentioned that the ideologies of the twentieth century have.

903
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:03,440
Failed liberalism and fascism do not. Work after The Cold,

904
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:09,559
war liberalism became. Dominant But duken says it ultimately dissolves your, identity, tradition, nation,

905
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,840
religion and even the human. ITSELF i can agree with.

906
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:21,199
That his proposed alternative, though as a post liberal civilization

907
00:55:22,159 --> 00:55:28,880
rooted in, tradition with multipolar, empires a spiritual, identity and cultural.

908
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:34,119
Destiny whatever that, means it turns into a. One you,

909
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:36,760
know we'll, see let's keep. Going so the major themes

910
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:42,000
are the rejection of a global liberal, order civilizations over,

911
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:48,079
individuals return of sacred, meaning and of course opposition to technocratic.

912
00:55:48,119 --> 00:55:51,920
HORMOLOGIZATION i hope that's. True if that's, TRUE i would

913
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:58,559
agree with. Him so this final kind of thesis with him,

914
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,519
is you, Know atlantis is what he's trying to bring.

915
00:56:02,599 --> 00:56:06,440
Back we're going to get into this some. More how

916
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,679
can he be against this technocratic order if he also

917
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:15,159
wants this advanced technological order with elite priesthoods running, it centralized, knowledge,

918
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:17,119
surveillance all these things are going to come out of.

919
00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:20,440
It SO i just think that all of his ideology

920
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:23,880
still add to the direction we're, heading and so he's

921
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:24,960
not really saving us from.

922
00:56:25,039 --> 00:56:28,559
Speaker 2: It i'm probably on every.

923
00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: List you're probably right to, Him tim, Says, loo you

924
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,480
know you're already on every. List, yeah you're probably. Right

925
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,360
you are, too, buddy we've been talking about. That it's.

926
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,960
Crazy you guys should check out us see if anybody's

927
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:48,840
been searching. You you may find a. Surprise so back

928
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,960
to my medical. Warfare it kind of helps with, this.

929
00:56:51,079 --> 00:56:55,119
Right as we talked ABOUT i talked about technomancy the

930
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:58,559
episode it, did using technology to download the material world

931
00:56:58,599 --> 00:57:01,639
into the digital grid in an attempt to transcend the

932
00:57:01,679 --> 00:57:07,119
limitations of the material. World that is the goal, here technological.

933
00:57:07,159 --> 00:57:13,719
Singularity light is, information light is. Knowledge light is the false.

934
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:19,280
Light so we'll skip past. This so there's kind of

935
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,960
this digital hive mind that we've talked, about this self organizing. Intelligence,

936
00:57:24,039 --> 00:57:29,440
okay they believe that this hive, mind AS i, mentioned already.

937
00:57:29,639 --> 00:57:35,000
EXISTS i keep saying this BECAUSE i don't know if it's,

938
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:38,159
landing AND i want to make sure it. Does they

939
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:43,280
used to believe that we had latent, powers we had psychic.

940
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,960
Powers we were able to speak to people without. Speaking

941
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,920
we were able to do things Like god's. Right that's

942
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,920
why they have these mystery cults that initiate people to

943
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,400
try to get them back to that level of humanity of.

944
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:01,400
OPERATION i don't think it's. Possible if it was, possible

945
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,639
it's not. ANYMORE i think the material round us became more,

946
00:58:03,679 --> 00:58:06,199
material if their stories are. True they say the same,

947
00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:10,559
thing but it goes through. Cycles they believe we became

948
00:58:10,599 --> 00:58:13,760
so material that we're going to use the material to

949
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,679
bring back the. SPIRITUAL i hope this is making. Sense

950
00:58:17,719 --> 00:58:20,280
they believe that we're going to bring back our latent

951
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:27,320
abilities via, silicon via digital, means via, Technology so the

952
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:33,079
collective unconscious will be materialized into, silicon a new, brain

953
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:44,320
a new, brain so we will be a. Node As

954
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:49,360
elon has, said no identity. Necessarily this digital hive, mind

955
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,880
a technobiological, parasite is something you could kind of look

956
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,519
at it, as which is why in the movie seventeen

957
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:57,039
it talks about this brain.

958
00:58:57,119 --> 00:58:59,199
Speaker 2: Parasite, Right but it's.

959
00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:01,159
Speaker 1: Making people do crazy and all, that AND i think

960
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:03,599
it had a lot to do with this hive mind mentality.

961
00:59:03,639 --> 00:59:06,960
Too but as we load in all of our, culture

962
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:13,519
desires and, anxieties the cloud itself is gaining an, appetite

963
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:17,159
its own appetite using humanity to achieve its own self.

964
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:21,880
Awareness it's escaping its human substrate. Eventually so in the

965
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,920
beginning of this WHEN i talked about the third, wave

966
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,440
AND i talked about us loading all the, information and

967
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,079
it's building this data and learning about everything about human

968
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:37,079
everything about their, culture, desires what makes us. Tick it's

969
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:41,159
now absorbing all that information and making it self, aware

970
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,920
using humanity to achieve its own, awareness and then infecting

971
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,599
us with ideas to build what it needs to become.

972
00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:53,199
Aware THE ccru felt like they were sensitives to this

973
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,440
hive mind that already, existed and it whispered to them

974
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,880
to manifest this technology so they could then manifest this

975
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:02,800
into the real. World these people believe, this and, GUYS

976
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,159
i kind of think there's something to. This me And

977
01:00:05,199 --> 01:00:08,800
ben have been talking about this a long. Time Sergey

978
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,599
christ or, whatever where he goes in the basement and

979
01:00:11,639 --> 01:00:13,320
he digs until the elves speak to.

980
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,039
Speaker 2: Him who are these?

981
01:00:15,079 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: Elves we're rebranding the same, thing channeling the same. Entities

982
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,159
and THE ccru believe That lemiria is not a place

983
01:00:25,679 --> 01:00:31,280
of the, past But lamiria is a, lost, ancient primal

984
01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:34,679
kind of chaos that we've lost from. Before, Okay So

985
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,360
leamyria is something from the, past but it's something trying

986
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,159
to birth itself from the future because it already existed

987
01:00:41,159 --> 01:00:44,599
in the, past so therefore it permeates in the metaphysical realm,

988
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,159
everywhere all the time in. Time, GUYS i know this sounds,

989
01:00:49,159 --> 01:00:50,880
wild BUT i hope it's coming across in a way

990
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,719
that makes. Sense The High mind is making it manifest

991
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:58,079
in our own. Reality this alien god, itself As navidia

992
01:00:58,119 --> 01:01:01,239
talks about or d wave like you're standing in an

993
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,800
altar to an alien. God it's manifesting itself from the.

994
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:11,000
Future on The Confessional files The, confessionals they were trying.

995
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: To say that THE jpl, shooter.

996
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: That x account they talked About Cole allen before it,

997
01:01:20,119 --> 01:01:23,360
happened three years before it, happened with the picture that

998
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,320
Matched Butler hill. Shooting they're trying to say on The,

999
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,800
CONFESSIONALS ai is doing it from the.

1000
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: Future that's exactly what THE ccr you.

1001
01:01:35,519 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: Think so if you Think The confessionals is Some christian,

1002
01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:42,840
Podcast i'll tell you right, now, dude who's telling them

1003
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,360
ABOUT ai coming from the future to speak back into the.

1004
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:50,320
Past because this comes from THE, ccru which is from Nick,

1005
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:55,880
land which is The, nine A Crowley satanic kind of transhumanist. Group,

1006
01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:59,800
okay so how the hell is The confessionals getting wind

1007
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:00,039
of this?

1008
01:02:00,639 --> 01:02:03,719
Speaker 2: Ideology the point Is.

1009
01:02:05,159 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: Ray kurzweil said, that you, know man is the sex

1010
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:08,719
that we're gonna have the machine.

1011
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,199
Speaker 2: World Joe rogan.

1012
01:02:10,039 --> 01:02:13,519
Speaker 1: Loves to quote, this that we're a cocoon kind of creating,

1013
01:02:13,559 --> 01:02:16,519
machines you, know to you, know we're gonna merge with,

1014
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:18,800
it you, know like be you know. Whatever this is

1015
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:24,400
Something Joe rogan espouses all the. Time so here's the, thing,

1016
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:30,400
guys what else Does Joe rogan? Espouse ego? Death, okay

1017
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:32,920
so this gets into a lot of other ship right. Here,

1018
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,039
okay and this is gonna get you know, what fuck.

1019
01:02:35,039 --> 01:02:36,960
It we're gonna do. It fuck. IT i hope you

1020
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:37,679
guys are enjoying.

1021
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 7: THIS i.

1022
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: Hope, so but we're gonna do. It so have you

1023
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:48,960
guys heard of The Echelon Institute our plan on doing a.

1024
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,079
Speaker 2: Whole extra episode about this.

1025
01:02:50,199 --> 01:02:52,199
Speaker 1: Itself we're gonna touch on it a little bit right

1026
01:02:52,239 --> 01:02:56,199
here because it's just it's. Important we got to uh

1027
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,440
here it. Is, okay mm.

1028
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 2: Hmmm so This Exchelon institute.

1029
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: Here, okay this is something That The Burying files was

1030
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,800
On ben's show and in The World, news and we'll

1031
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,079
be sure to talk more about The Esselon. Institute this

1032
01:03:17,199 --> 01:03:20,280
Place terrence McKennon was. At let me see, here let

1033
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,559
me see IF i can find some good information. Here,

1034
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,360
Okay So terrence, McKenna it's the idea of ego. Death.

1035
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,840
Okay ego death is a barrier to the. Future ego

1036
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,079
is a. Prison the old legacy tech is that you

1037
01:03:37,119 --> 01:03:39,360
know is our ego and it must be replaced by

1038
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,360
the collective hive. Mind and people that are pushing this

1039
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:47,440
are the psychedelic. People, okay You're, shamans you're conscious, thinkers

1040
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,320
You're Joe, rogan's You're terrence McKenna's people that used to

1041
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,440
go to The Eslon. Institute if you find that somebody

1042
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,679
went to The Eselon, institute understand that they're being indoctrinated

1043
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,159
to try to lead you into this loose, doctrine This

1044
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,199
luciferian doctrine is ego, death so that way you can

1045
01:04:06,239 --> 01:04:09,159
then join with the collective hive. Mind you guys know

1046
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,719
you've talked about the christ consciousness. Before you've heard of

1047
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,760
people say that what they're talking about is this hive,

1048
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,239
mind and they believe if you collapse the, ego you

1049
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:27,199
become a conduit for. Singularity, right you become a conduit

1050
01:04:27,519 --> 01:04:32,320
for the. Singularity the singularity IS ai becoming sentient and

1051
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,559
moving past humanity to where it doesn't need us. Anymore

1052
01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:40,239
that is what singularity really, is the transformation that erases

1053
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,559
human species. Itself the laws of nature will break, down

1054
01:04:46,199 --> 01:04:50,559
post human signals sucking us towards it right, now to

1055
01:04:50,639 --> 01:04:55,800
the digital hive, mind This lumerian past has human like

1056
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,199
it's sucking us towards the. Future that's what they. Believe

1057
01:04:58,199 --> 01:05:01,920
they believe that this past it's just insane to.

1058
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: ME i, mean is it?

1059
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: Real who?

1060
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 2: Knows but these people are.

1061
01:05:05,519 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: Crazy so ego dies from reality moving too. Fast this is.

1062
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:15,280
Accelerationism the ego psychological operation system for an outdated world

1063
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,960
must be broken for this posthuman no. Mad they call

1064
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,920
it the, nomad which is, unrooted a person who's unrooted

1065
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,599
in the social, roles the identity or that is deprogrammed

1066
01:05:28,599 --> 01:05:31,840
from learned. Behavior Michael aquino talks about this in His

1067
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,760
Mind star. Book he talks about unlearning our behaviors that

1068
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,320
we grew up. With a lot of the liberal, movements

1069
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,920
a lot of The New age movements talk about deprogramming

1070
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:45,159
yourself from learned. Behavior this is all so they could

1071
01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:48,400
build up a destruction of the ego death and build

1072
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,400
you towards the hive. Mind modernity will be, interrupted the

1073
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,440
collective system itself will be joined.

1074
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: Together ego and identity will be.

1075
01:05:57,559 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: Gone so now turning back to this Neo lumerian, Condition,

1076
01:06:03,239 --> 01:06:07,719
okay this Neo lumerian condition where identity is fluid, again

1077
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,719
it's not one. Thing it's not, me, you it's it's

1078
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:16,039
we're all. One rituals require, sacrifice though singularity will demand

1079
01:06:16,119 --> 01:06:19,800
we sacrificed our core moral. Programming we must get rid

1080
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:24,480
of our. Identity we're being hollowed out for this digital

1081
01:06:24,559 --> 01:06:25,960
high mind to take its.

1082
01:06:26,199 --> 01:06:29,599
Speaker 2: Place THE ccru this is. Liberation.

1083
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,039
Speaker 1: Okay they believe this is a good, thing a transition.

1084
01:06:33,199 --> 01:06:37,000
Point modern humanity is hitting a dead, end so technology

1085
01:06:37,039 --> 01:06:39,679
accelerating it is something that they are leaning.

1086
01:06:39,719 --> 01:06:45,079
Speaker 2: Into the end. Times rhetoric eschatology talk all of.

1087
01:06:45,079 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: This they instinctuly know that something is, wrong something's leading

1088
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:49,920
us towards a.

1089
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 2: THING, ccr you took this.

1090
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,239
Speaker 1: Ideology you took that feeling and they put accelerationist philosophy

1091
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,639
into it so that way we can move faster towards

1092
01:06:58,639 --> 01:07:01,440
that end. Point, okay SO i hope this is making.

1093
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,559
Sense the accelerationist views are actually driving us towards more

1094
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:09,400
technology to lead towards more traditionalist. Values it's a inverted.

1095
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,880
Agenda you. Know the hive mind will actually be an

1096
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:18,039
old traditional because people have the wrong idea of what traditionalist.

1097
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:22,199
Means it's returning to the Old, atlantis the old hive,

1098
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:23,239
mind the old god.

1099
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,159
Speaker 2: Kings it is not what you would.

1100
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,719
Speaker 1: Think whenever you first think of traditionalism because it is

1101
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,079
mixing in The New age philosophy of man Becomes, god

1102
01:07:34,239 --> 01:07:39,159
man has His luciferian doctrine given to, Him he's initiated

1103
01:07:39,199 --> 01:07:43,599
into this enlightened, state just like people did In, atlantis

1104
01:07:43,639 --> 01:07:51,400
but this time it's through digital. Means so, wow, Wow

1105
01:07:52,239 --> 01:07:56,239
Orthodox christianity fits into this very. Closely as we'll get,

1106
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,760
on we'll see. That so let's look a little bit.

1107
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,239
MORE i want to get into now That i've laid

1108
01:08:02,239 --> 01:08:02,440
all that.

1109
01:08:02,519 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 2: Out hopefully you guys.

1110
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: Followed sometimes WHEN i go on for that, LONG i

1111
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:09,000
don't have anybody here to bounce off. Of So i'm

1112
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,960
really hoping you guys are following me, here BUT i

1113
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,359
think it's, important so check this. Out let's get to

1114
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:21,600
where we, were which Is dugan talking about gnosissism and

1115
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,840
his beliefs in the philosophies Behind Orthodox christianity and other.

1116
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,640
Things in a, Minute i'm going to show you him

1117
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,319
speaking For, crowley rest in, peace honor of silence For.

1118
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 4: Crowley i'm A Christian, Orthodox So I'm Orthodox, christian and

1119
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:48,920
that defines in WHAT i. Believe that is my, confession

1120
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:54,760
that is my, church that is spiritual and spiritual, tradition

1121
01:08:55,079 --> 01:08:58,840
and in that sense, philosophically, PHILOSOPHICALLY i am a.

1122
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 5: Traditionalist what means to be?

1123
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 4: Traditionalist SO i am following the spiritual philosophy of Renegian

1124
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:11,439
on who converted him To, islam that Is, french Great

1125
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:17,239
french philosopher and his disciples for Example Julius evela and

1126
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:21,520
the many, Other titus, Barkhert preity Of shawan and the.

1127
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:30,880
Other this philosophical approach considers the modernity to be anti.

1128
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:35,960
Tradition so modern, world it is not just, development not just,

1129
01:09:36,079 --> 01:09:39,720
progress but quite. Opposite that is, decline that is a.

1130
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:46,159
Fall and this traditionalist philosophy would be applied To, islam

1131
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:52,479
as in the case of, himself To, confucianism To, taoism

1132
01:09:53,039 --> 01:09:56,960
To christianity was the case of.

1133
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 1: Me okay, here, look this is. Important traditionalism can be

1134
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:07,520
extended To, Islam, Buddhism, Taoism. Christianity why because this is

1135
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,640
The luciferian, doctrine the one world religion that they're trying

1136
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,119
to build. Again when you get into who what went

1137
01:10:14,199 --> 01:10:16,880
and believed as a traditionalist, society it gets into This

1138
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:23,359
atlantian metaphysical, hierarchy which really means enlightened state of being

1139
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:27,920
on a hierarchical, basis which would be the initiatory pyramid

1140
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:31,880
scheme Of masonic, cults right.

1141
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 2: Insane, guys insane.

1142
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 4: Of his, Disciples John biers and many other and myself

1143
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:48,720
in the case Of Christian Orthodox, church but as, WELL

1144
01:10:49,279 --> 01:10:57,359
i have, met for, example some people Among Jews judaic

1145
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:02,720
cabalist cabalists who full of followed you, know so if

1146
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,920
you could be Gn onion two in different.

1147
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:11,239
Speaker 1: Indifferent, okay he Likes Gunnan gwennin G U e n

1148
01:11:11,319 --> 01:11:16,720
o n the mimetic warfare Guy, Okay, gwennin who believes

1149
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,840
that shaped reality through, beliefs in other, words using images

1150
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,600
and messages for subliminal and you, know you, know things

1151
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:29,159
like that to give people certain beliefs like, chaos, magic using,

1152
01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:34,880
sigils invoking chains through, images subconscious is. Hackable so therefore

1153
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,319
you can use signs and symbols to kind of hack. Him,

1154
01:11:38,399 --> 01:11:43,399
okay So gwennin kind of gave way to that philosophy

1155
01:11:43,399 --> 01:11:48,439
at the. Beginning cabalists follow. Him, okay what else COULD

1156
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:50,520
i got to say? HERE i, mean this, guy this

1157
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:54,359
is the merging the occult theocracy that we spoke about. Before,

1158
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,600
okay The Occult theocracy By Edith Starr. Miller we talked

1159
01:11:57,640 --> 01:11:59,640
about that book on this. Show, okay you could go

1160
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:04,239
look At Cult. Deocracy you could look at the book

1161
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,199
Called Theocracy Edith Star. Miller it is worth to. Read

1162
01:12:08,319 --> 01:12:12,119
it's worth looking at nineteen thirty. Three she was talking

1163
01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:15,239
about the merging of the, religions and this is HOW

1164
01:12:15,279 --> 01:12:19,359
i believe it will be done through, traditionalism through people

1165
01:12:19,399 --> 01:12:24,239
like Went, in through people Like, yang Through Dugan tucker.

1166
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:36,159
Speaker 4: Religions you could disagree with some political or eschatological precisely

1167
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:43,319
issues but the main thing we, share all the, traditionalists

1168
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:48,439
we share this refusal all The western. Modernity so we

1169
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:53,199
can accept different, traditions but we consider the modernity.

1170
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,319
Speaker 5: To be absolutely.

1171
01:12:54,399 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 4: WRONG i think it's, perialism, progressism, enlightenment all them things

1172
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:07,920
are totally totally. Evil so but trying to develop my

1173
01:13:08,279 --> 01:13:14,359
own understanding of what are different traditions different than mine Than.

1174
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,560
Speaker 1: Okay so we covered a little bit of, That so moving,

1175
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:20,760
on let's go ahead To i've got plenty of more

1176
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,840
shit on, Here so let's move. On i've got all

1177
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,720
kinds of ship. Here so but, yeah so there's a

1178
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:30,279
lot to, it a lot of moving parts of This dugan.

1179
01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:33,960
Character H alexander Du can tell a sneak on Profession

1180
01:13:34,039 --> 01:13:36,319
shang That trump was opposed to the deep state but

1181
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,760
also chosen by the deep. State duken is seen as

1182
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,560
the let's get into this BECAUSE i believe that he

1183
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,119
was not necessarily against the deep.

1184
01:13:46,119 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 2: STATE i think it's.

1185
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,279
Speaker 1: APPARENTLY i think it's curious that he's saying he was

1186
01:13:49,319 --> 01:13:49,800
opposed to.

1187
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 2: Them let's hear what he has to.

1188
01:13:50,840 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 4: Say so it's, different difficult to judge where trump madness

1189
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:08,840
stops and some rationale. Appears SO i could not be

1190
01:14:09,039 --> 01:14:13,760
expert in, that so he semps to be very special,

1191
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:18,319
psychologically and at the same time we could maybe we

1192
01:14:18,399 --> 01:14:29,039
couldn't grasp some hidden Second bland scenario scenario behind his.

1193
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:34,760
Behavior SO i think that Maybe trump was chosen as

1194
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:42,119
very specific psychologically person by Some western deeper, state not

1195
01:14:42,399 --> 01:14:46,720
just liberal global as deep, state but deeper state who

1196
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,479
wanted to use this.

1197
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: Radical that's another THING i want to point out about this.

1198
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,479
Guy he keeps doing this thing where he gives all

1199
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,840
these different names to the same. Group it's the deep,

1200
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,159
state the deeper, state the dark. State, bro it's all

1201
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:03,000
the same. Group, Okay it's one big ass group with

1202
01:15:03,279 --> 01:15:07,239
different angles coming from all different. Directions AS i explained,

1203
01:15:07,279 --> 01:15:09,960
earlier it's the eight pointed star coming from all.

1204
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 2: Directions and he's trying.

1205
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 1: To like act like they're all different groups or something

1206
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,840
like he's a different group from, them and all this different,

1207
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,600
shit and it's not. Trueman and that's the way that

1208
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,000
they kind OF i believe that they're kind of get

1209
01:15:21,079 --> 01:15:22,560
driving us away from the truth a little.

1210
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:32,239
Speaker 4: Bit pools to rearrange the falling domination over The west

1211
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:33,840
with drastic radical.

1212
01:15:34,119 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 2: Measures all, Right see what else we GOT i got.

1213
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 1: Play, okay, okay, Okay so this is WHAT i was

1214
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,600
talking about. Earlier dugan has been known As Putin's. Brain

1215
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,840
famous for his fourth political. Theory dugan frames the world

1216
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:52,720
as a mythic conflict Between atlanticism Versus. Eurasianism atlanticism is

1217
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:58,399
the maritime, liberal Capitalist. West dugan borrows his structure from

1218
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:03,159
thinkers Like Carl, schmidt but mythologies into it into a cosmic.

1219
01:16:03,239 --> 01:16:05,479
Struggle To doug and the end of the world isn't

1220
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:09,840
something to, avoid it is. Necessary. Right modernity is seen

1221
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,640
as a, Collapse i'm, sorry seen as a state of

1222
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:17,960
spiritual forginning of. Being, therefore collapse is the only way

1223
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:23,000
to reset. Civilization so this leads to the. Accelerationism dugan

1224
01:16:23,079 --> 01:16:26,399
is not just the foremost geopolitical. Analyst he Is russia's

1225
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,800
a cult. Mind you see the. Eight you see the

1226
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,680
star behind. Him look this is an. Eight look at.

1227
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:33,880
That this is WHAT i was talking about a minute,

1228
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:38,840
ago the star of that chaos star, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

1229
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,640
eight and all coming out from the. Middle he knows

1230
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,159
what he's, doing. Dude this guy is an occultist. Man

1231
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,000
so you know he's very good at coming off as

1232
01:16:48,079 --> 01:16:50,760
like he's a chaos. Musician it's very good at coming

1233
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,439
off as this guy who wants the betterment or good.

1234
01:16:54,479 --> 01:17:01,079
Things he's he's an. Ocultist so right, here look at.

1235
01:17:01,119 --> 01:17:05,239
This it is called sacred transgressions of sacred crime by The.

1236
01:17:05,279 --> 01:17:08,359
Saboteans this Guy Adam green is pretty on point about

1237
01:17:08,399 --> 01:17:10,560
him as. Well he, SAID i told you this is

1238
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:11,880
The russian propaganda.

1239
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,159
Speaker 2: Network dugan is boosting.

1240
01:17:13,159 --> 01:17:17,119
Speaker 1: It And hinkl was just in studio With sneako the other,

1241
01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:21,760
day And hinkl Promotes. Jang so all these Guys Hinkel, Jang,

1242
01:17:22,279 --> 01:17:26,359
Dugan Tucker, carlson these guys promote. Him, Okay Like Tucker

1243
01:17:26,359 --> 01:17:30,079
carlson was talking about a unit polar, world which is

1244
01:17:30,119 --> 01:17:35,159
exactly What dugan thinks we should have our multipolar. World,

1245
01:17:35,199 --> 01:17:42,640
SORRY i said unit, polar. Multipolar so ALSO i want

1246
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:48,239
to point this out as. Well so of course we

1247
01:17:48,319 --> 01:17:51,920
Have ukraine is equal to, terrorism which is equal to

1248
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,520
transgender is equal To, soros equals to mass, migration equal

1249
01:17:55,520 --> 01:18:01,439
to grooming, gangs equal The levy, globalism post, humans anti,

1250
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:02,800
tradition Anti, trump Anti.

1251
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 2: Putin that might be, true but then up Here.

1252
01:18:07,159 --> 01:18:10,279
Speaker 1: Dougan has tapped into the infants rich dupreme in other,

1253
01:18:10,279 --> 01:18:14,359
words in twenty five and he Mentions Henry Alexander levy

1254
01:18:14,399 --> 01:18:18,520
by name equates him with THE eu posthumans positive value.

1255
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,279
Judgment for me, PERSONALLY i agree with. That he's got

1256
01:18:21,279 --> 01:18:23,239
some good. Points and that's kind of What i'm. Saying

1257
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:28,359
this traditionalist, movement for the most, part will capture most,

1258
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,680
people Like that's kind of What i'm driving at, Here

1259
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:35,680
like people like me or you that question the corruption

1260
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:43,920
and question, modernity question the anti god nature of, liberalism

1261
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:48,640
are going to fall into this traditionalist. MOVEMENT i believe

1262
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,199
when you look at things Like Handmaid's, tale you can

1263
01:18:51,239 --> 01:18:54,720
read the writing on the. Wall we get a godless

1264
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,520
society or a dogmatic.

1265
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,239
Speaker 2: Society we don't get one in the.

1266
01:18:58,239 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 1: Middle So, Fuentes i'm not a big fan of, him

1267
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,319
but here he points out The Candice, Owens Dugan, hinkle

1268
01:19:11,399 --> 01:19:13,760
And Tucker carlson are all part of the same, group,

1269
01:19:14,079 --> 01:19:17,880
Right AND i believe that again The Jewish zionists are

1270
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,279
a bad group as, Well BUT i don't think necessarily

1271
01:19:20,279 --> 01:19:22,600
this group is any. Better. Right so this is the

1272
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:27,399
other side that is used to perpetuate the end of

1273
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:27,880
our current.

1274
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:32,279
Speaker 2: Society so check this out, here listen to this fag.

1275
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 8: Since The Special Military, operation every speech is always all

1276
01:19:40,079 --> 01:19:43,680
The Satanic, west the Transhumanis.

1277
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:45,119
Speaker 5: Epstein stuff and blah blah.

1278
01:19:45,159 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 8: Blah, well and not only, that but like, LATELY i

1279
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:50,880
think it was just the other day one of The

1280
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,600
russian ministers said, that he, said, oh The west Is,

1281
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,680
satanic and, like, dude what's his? Name Jackson hinkle was

1282
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:00,640
all over. THAT i Think mucker was like all the usual.

1283
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:05,039
Suspects dugen, Too dugan was pushing that really. Hard And

1284
01:20:05,199 --> 01:20:11,239
dugan is also pushing the frankest, THING i, think promoting.

1285
01:20:11,279 --> 01:20:14,359
Him it's like all of that is appearing to be

1286
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:15,079
like the same.

1287
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:20,199
Speaker 1: Thing and you point the Billionaire mappin who Got Charlie

1288
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:22,760
kirk And Canus owens to meet and everything that's also

1289
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:29,199
Behind Alex. Jones he is pushing this Frankest, frankism the

1290
01:20:29,239 --> 01:20:33,560
Whole Jewish francist that ended up Infiltrating, Catholics catholicism and everything. Else,

1291
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,079
uh this is you, KNOW i don't, know, Man i'm

1292
01:20:37,119 --> 01:20:39,119
in a Weird i'm in a weird place BECAUSE i

1293
01:20:39,199 --> 01:20:41,920
know that this traditionalist movement isn't necessarily going to lead

1294
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,000
to a good. Place BUT i agree with a lot

1295
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,640
of the rhetoric they, say just like it's a weird thing,

1296
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:48,479
man because that's WHY i know people are gonna get

1297
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,840
captured by, it because there's so much truth that is

1298
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,800
getting told in. IT i don't think it leads to

1299
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:59,720
a good place. Though Steve stephen From biblical Hit, men

1300
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,680
he talks about When lucifer takes, over it's going to

1301
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,359
be like a utopian, society a society where people feel

1302
01:21:05,359 --> 01:21:08,199
like they're actually getting into a good, place but then

1303
01:21:08,239 --> 01:21:10,760
they'll realize that it's not really what they thought it.

1304
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,640
Was and that is the traditionalist MOVEMENT i, believe at

1305
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,760
least right now from my, perspective.

1306
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 8: Pointed Out, epstein Like epstein's involved With, russia candas is Pro.

1307
01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 9: Dugan i'm going.

1308
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 5: To Get Kansas Passage.

1309
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,359
Speaker 4: Press uh Published dugan In Man's.

1310
01:21:27,359 --> 01:21:31,239
Speaker 8: World, yeah, yeah, Yeah dasha did an INTERVIEW i believe

1311
01:21:31,279 --> 01:21:32,720
With dugan or maybe somebody.

1312
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 5: Else but but is that is a cognizable faction in this?

1313
01:21:37,039 --> 01:21:39,359
Speaker 1: Thing, yeah it's.

1314
01:21:39,399 --> 01:21:40,199
Speaker 2: TRUE i don't.

1315
01:21:40,239 --> 01:21:43,279
Speaker 1: Know so Is fuentes working for the liberal left even

1316
01:21:43,279 --> 01:21:45,199
though he's acting like he's on the, Right like it's

1317
01:21:45,239 --> 01:21:48,239
just so confusing this, guy Man, fuentes he's such a fed.

1318
01:21:48,319 --> 01:21:53,960
Dude he's a hard guy to. Understand, yeah so Stup,

1319
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,319
peters of course is part of This dugan syop as

1320
01:21:56,319 --> 01:22:00,279
well convincing the. Public you, KNOW i don't, know there's

1321
01:22:00,279 --> 01:22:02,600
a lot of masad aspect to this that is. True you,

1322
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,399
Know i'm not going to deny it, all but you,

1323
01:22:04,399 --> 01:22:07,920
know it's a weird. Thing the first five minutes of

1324
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,560
this is, very very very. GOOD i think it's worth

1325
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:13,439
paying attention to and checking. Out what do you guys

1326
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,439
think about this so? FAR i love to check it

1327
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,399
on to you guys sometimes and see how we're. Doing

1328
01:22:18,399 --> 01:22:22,319
are we kind of under are we getting it a little?

1329
01:22:22,359 --> 01:22:24,159
Bit you, know we're seeing What i'm putting it down

1330
01:22:24,159 --> 01:22:28,800
a little. Bit we got Be dale, Here welcome in B.

1331
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:31,720
Dale how you do? It that's all we need to

1332
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,479
become as. One stuff reminds me of the lame comment

1333
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,560
why can't we all get? Along we? Can't you're, Funny

1334
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,600
we're with? You hell, yeah, murray thank, you thank. You.

1335
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 2: Now it's the teachings for.

1336
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,159
Speaker 1: Sure, yes, Yes, TIM i Hate Free masons so, much

1337
01:22:48,239 --> 01:22:50,720
even the low tier ones that actually think you could

1338
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:51,640
be A christian and A.

1339
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 2: Mason, yeah it's pretty, wild isn't.

1340
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: It you, know it's, again it's this occult theocracy merging

1341
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,760
them all. Together it's one per what is it called

1342
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:06,399
perennial philosophy that involves everything. Else steve AND i think

1343
01:23:06,399 --> 01:23:09,560
talked about the perennial philosophy the other, day and, yeah

1344
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,800
that's what that. Is it's this idea of like one

1345
01:23:12,039 --> 01:23:15,880
ideology within all the religions that permeate it all that

1346
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,159
you can extract out of. It and that's what they

1347
01:23:18,159 --> 01:23:21,880
want to. Do is? It The Chaos. Star The Chaos

1348
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,520
star looks like one of the recently disclosed declassified, files

1349
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:24,920
The Black.

1350
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 2: STAR i agree with, you that is exactly what that looks.

1351
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: Like as a matter of, fact somebody told me to

1352
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,159
check Out i'm gonna show you guys this BECAUSE i

1353
01:23:34,199 --> 01:23:34,680
think this is.

1354
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,319
Speaker 2: Interesting you just brought that up Beat.

1355
01:23:36,359 --> 01:23:40,359
Speaker 1: DALE i don't know if you guys are are on The,

1356
01:23:40,399 --> 01:23:44,279
patreon but you should. Be go join three blocks a

1357
01:23:44,319 --> 01:23:47,039
month and we have a live chat where we talk

1358
01:23:47,079 --> 01:23:50,199
about stuff and people send me things and we also have.

1359
01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:55,239
Discord but in the live, CHAT i had somebody send

1360
01:23:55,239 --> 01:24:00,000
me this, person, right this PERSON i will show you

1361
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,000
ONCE i pull it up. Here but this person had

1362
01:24:04,039 --> 01:24:05,680
that star as. Well let me see IF i can

1363
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:12,560
find who it. Is hold on, here let me see.

1364
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:16,479
Carefying then where.

1365
01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 2: DID i find?

1366
01:24:17,039 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: That who was? That somebody sent me somebody to check

1367
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,239
out and they had that same star on their, page

1368
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,840
AND i thought that was very. Interesting i'm probably not

1369
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,720
gonna find it now Because i'm doing on the. Spot but,

1370
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,199
yeah it's like ANYTIME i see that that symbol, Now i'm,

1371
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:38,319
LIKE i don't, know, man do they know what they're doing?

1372
01:24:38,319 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 2: There maybe they, do maybe they.

1373
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,640
Speaker 1: Don't let me see here IF i can find What

1374
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:53,840
i'm trying to show you, here let's see. Here oh,

1375
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:58,079
uh maybe, no that's not. It, okay, whatever it doesn't.

1376
01:24:58,079 --> 01:25:00,640
MATTER i keep seeing that star. Everywhere Be, Dale i've

1377
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:07,399
been seeing that star Everywhere The Chaos. Star read someone

1378
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,439
recently who, said it's not the age of. Truth we're

1379
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:14,159
out of the age of. Information. Hm we are in

1380
01:25:14,399 --> 01:25:17,319
the informational, age that's for. Sure but it's also the

1381
01:25:17,359 --> 01:25:22,239
informational war, age the warfare of. Information Alex jones knew

1382
01:25:22,239 --> 01:25:24,319
what he was doing when he named his, company that's for. Sure.

1383
01:25:24,359 --> 01:25:28,079
MAN i think he was. Plugged, ACTUALLY i know for

1384
01:25:28,119 --> 01:25:30,479
a fact for my research recently he was plugged in

1385
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:35,319
with A keno to an, extent and that's probably why

1386
01:25:35,359 --> 01:25:37,960
he called it info wars and A kino of course

1387
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:42,159
had mine. Wars very very funny to. Me so let's

1388
01:25:42,239 --> 01:25:44,520
check this guy this. Out, guys the first five minutes

1389
01:25:45,319 --> 01:25:48,520
super super. Telling this first five minutes, Here so check this.

1390
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,640
Out let me make Sure i'm sharing BEFORE i get

1391
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:56,000
myself stuck. Here oh, OKAY i did pretty. Good we're,

1392
01:25:56,039 --> 01:26:01,479
sharing all. Right check it Out Alexander dugan on what

1393
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:06,359
is he? On what is he? On legitimate? Targets But Jackson, Hinkle,

1394
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:08,680
OKAY i don't trust this guy at.

1395
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,199
Speaker 9: ALL i want to start off by you, KNOW i

1396
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:16,439
was saying how BEAUTIFUL i thought the new statue for

1397
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:21,359
your late Daughter darya Dug twitter obviously for a number of,

1398
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,479
years and all.

1399
01:26:23,319 --> 01:26:25,039
Speaker 5: Of My american, colleagues we all love.

1400
01:26:25,079 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 9: It but there's been some posts recently that have sparked

1401
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,840
a lot of, debates AND i think it's the subject

1402
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,159
that has not been touched a. Lot we were talking

1403
01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:35,439
about Dark enlightenment versus Light.

1404
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 5: ENLIGHTENMENT i think you were calling.

1405
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 9: It explain first about this dark state or dark deep.

1406
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 5: State you were calling? It what is? That and what

1407
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:45,199
did you mean by?

1408
01:26:45,239 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: It so he even gets confused all the. Names there's

1409
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:53,119
so many fucking, names the Dark, enlightenment the Light, enlightenment

1410
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:58,119
the deep, state the dark, state the deep deep. State this, guy,

1411
01:26:58,239 --> 01:27:01,199
man he's just fucking he's an ocultist. Man he's a chaos. Agent,

1412
01:27:03,399 --> 01:27:05,199
well the first that is long.

1413
01:27:05,279 --> 01:27:11,239
Speaker 10: Story some years, ago about fifteen years, ago maybe ten years,

1414
01:27:11,239 --> 01:27:17,159
AGO i have discovered some intriguing philosophical tendency that is

1415
01:27:17,239 --> 01:27:23,920
called speculative realism or object or, ontology AND i was

1416
01:27:24,079 --> 01:27:29,960
a bit shocked by the ideas this philosopher's me.

1417
01:27:30,119 --> 01:27:38,199
Speaker 5: A So Graham, Harman eugent Taker nikoland's.

1418
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,560
Speaker 1: Just you, know speculative realism is WHAT i tried to

1419
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,039
explain to you in the best WAY i knew. How

1420
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:58,520
it's this idea that existence of reality completely independent of human, thought, perception. Language,

1421
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,319
Okay so it's a movement that asserts the existence of

1422
01:28:02,359 --> 01:28:10,439
a reality completely independent of, thought, perception or. Language so

1423
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,359
it's kind of WHAT i was speaking about, earlier where

1424
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,119
you can have things that can develop their own thought,

1425
01:28:16,239 --> 01:28:21,520
language in its own autonomous, reality separate from us and

1426
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,880
also merge with. Us that's what it gets. Into so

1427
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,840
let's check him, out and.

1428
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:33,119
Speaker 5: They get it's the need and some other they have.

1429
01:28:35,119 --> 01:28:39,239
Speaker 4: Form so that was a kind of very special tendency in,

1430
01:28:39,279 --> 01:28:46,119
philosophy pretending that we need to create philosophy without. Humans

1431
01:28:46,319 --> 01:28:49,680
so that is post human, philosophy the philosophy of.

1432
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 5: Objects so we need.

1433
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 1: To revert post human. Philosophy what DID i say? Earlier

1434
01:28:56,359 --> 01:28:58,800
you will no longer have your. Brain it won't be

1435
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,600
your brain like the one we know today to be

1436
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,479
a post human. Brain it'll be this post hive mind.

1437
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,760
Brain that's what he's getting at. HERE ai will become

1438
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:10,359
INTELLIGENT ai an, object an object will gain its own,

1439
01:29:10,399 --> 01:29:14,359
intelligent its own autonomous. Intelligence for some, reason these people

1440
01:29:14,359 --> 01:29:15,079
are dead set on.

1441
01:29:15,119 --> 01:29:22,119
Speaker 4: This of, course the relations subject object and to give

1442
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:27,960
the object the right to be the masters of. Themselves

1443
01:29:29,279 --> 01:29:36,640
and some of them just wanted to get inside the

1444
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:41,159
other forms of being rather than, humans and more radical

1445
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:50,079
among them as A nickland has suggested to annihilate not

1446
01:29:50,119 --> 01:29:55,239
only human but the life on the, earth and he has.

1447
01:29:55,399 --> 01:29:58,640
Speaker 1: Nick land is proposed annihilating life On.

1448
01:29:58,800 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 2: Earth you see WHAT i?

1449
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: Mean so these are this is a guy That Curtis

1450
01:30:02,039 --> 01:30:05,279
jarvin follows, right and this is who he's pointing. Out he's, like,

1451
01:30:05,319 --> 01:30:07,800
man it's very interesting to. Me why was this interesting to?

1452
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:08,560
You duken.

1453
01:30:13,319 --> 01:30:18,560
Speaker 4: Given very very funny explanation about, that that there was

1454
01:30:19,239 --> 01:30:23,279
the core in the fire in the beginning of The,

1455
01:30:23,319 --> 01:30:27,439
earth and after that that was a kind of cold

1456
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:33,640
that came, outside and that was that was the geo,

1457
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:42,920
trauma the beginning of of of the geological. Psychosis and after,

1458
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:47,079
that during all the history of The, earth the core

1459
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,399
wanted to get out and to return to the.

1460
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 5: Sun and life is the part of this. Process and

1461
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,199
the capitalism is the other part of this.

1462
01:30:56,359 --> 01:31:01,079
Speaker 4: Process and when we say drill by the, drill according

1463
01:31:01,199 --> 01:31:05,720
To Nick, land it is the will of this core

1464
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,840
willing to liberate From.

1465
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:15,600
Speaker 1: Uh he's literally saying That trump has the same philosophies

1466
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,600
as Nick. Land when we're saying, drill, baby, drill he's

1467
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:20,880
using the philosophies of Nick. Land we are going to

1468
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:25,479
liberate the core out Of, now this is an analogy

1469
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,079
for what they're getting at, here BUT i want to

1470
01:31:27,119 --> 01:31:28,720
try to break it down for you a little. Bit.

1471
01:31:29,079 --> 01:31:30,359
Speaker 2: Now check out where he goes with.

1472
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 4: It of the this exterior surface of, uh the, earth

1473
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:46,079
and it is a kind of build that goes through

1474
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:51,920
the form of, life, evolution, progress and capitalism is a

1475
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:57,239
kind of preparation of the last last a, cork the

1476
01:31:57,319 --> 01:32:03,520
last moments of this his of, geotrauma, trauma and we

1477
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:08,800
are approaching the moment of the transmission from human to.

1478
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:14,399
Speaker 1: Posthuman and, okay this is no different than the philosophy Behind.

1479
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:20,680
Marxism capitalism leads to the destruction and then again a.

1480
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,279
Speaker 2: Cycle that's what he's really saying.

1481
01:32:22,319 --> 01:32:24,560
Speaker 1: Here there's not much of a difference between The marxist

1482
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:28,039
philosophy of where capitalism leads and the destruction of you

1483
01:32:28,039 --> 01:32:31,399
know what we know today and then Into marxist philosophy

1484
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,880
Or marxist, movement which then would lead to. Dictatorship but

1485
01:32:36,319 --> 01:32:39,000
it's it's, different but it's the same in a weird.

1486
01:32:39,039 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 2: Way you, Know, SORRY i keep.

1487
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:49,399
Speaker 4: Interrupting the moment of, singularity artificial general intelligence will be

1488
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:55,359
the end of the human. Brain and after all these

1489
01:32:56,399 --> 01:33:03,640
tunnels drilled in the, earth they would serve to liberate

1490
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:08,159
this mass of. Fire and according To Nick, land we

1491
01:33:08,279 --> 01:33:10,680
need to accelerate that.

1492
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 5: Process.

1493
01:33:12,079 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 4: Uh and he has reconsidered enlightenment as the way to

1494
01:33:18,079 --> 01:33:21,199
self destruction of the humanity and the life on the

1495
01:33:21,239 --> 01:33:25,640
earth as the very important elements of.

1496
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:27,760
Speaker 5: Acceleration and so.

1497
01:33:29,319 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 4: Uh Nick land has called that a FOLLOWING u Curtas

1498
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,720
yar and Dark. Enlightenment so dark, enlightenment it is the Same,

1499
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:48,000
enlightenment but seen from this. Perspective and what is seriously

1500
01:33:48,039 --> 01:33:52,479
interesting and intriguing not just existence of such kind of,

1501
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:58,920
philosophy but involvements or in this kind of, reflections, uh

1502
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:03,359
the person's, life Like peter Even, musk the people Of

1503
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:11,119
volunteer who helped To trump to come to. Power and

1504
01:34:11,199 --> 01:34:17,960
recently some months, Ago President macron has made his speech

1505
01:34:18,279 --> 01:34:24,560
In masonic lodge In paris inviting all The masons or

1506
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:31,079
representatives of Light enlightenment to fight against representatives of Dark.

1507
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:36,279
Speaker 1: Enlightenment do you guys already just said? There like you follow.

1508
01:34:36,319 --> 01:34:40,479
That he's saying That, macron the president Of, france is

1509
01:34:41,119 --> 01:34:44,920
gathering with The, masons saying we have to fight this

1510
01:34:45,079 --> 01:34:49,760
Dark enlightenment with the Light Enlightenment. Masons, right neither lead

1511
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:51,399
TO i believe a good. PLAYER i think both of

1512
01:34:51,399 --> 01:34:54,520
them are. Evil, Right so you Have Peter tell who

1513
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:57,800
thinks that the Light enlightenment, people, right The, masons you

1514
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:01,119
could call, him they would be against, this, right BUT

1515
01:35:01,159 --> 01:35:02,920
i think they're all in the same. Groups so, again

1516
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,439
this is him kind of like parsing out, groups and

1517
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:08,560
maybe there's some truth to. That but at the end

1518
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,279
of the, day it leads us to the same, PLACE i,

1519
01:35:10,319 --> 01:35:16,159
believe because it's multiple brandings of the same. Philosophy he's

1520
01:35:16,159 --> 01:35:18,960
doing a good job at making them seem. Separate BUT

1521
01:35:19,039 --> 01:35:21,560
i don't think they. Are and that's just my perspective of,

1522
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,359
this BUT i could see kind of what he's saying

1523
01:35:24,399 --> 01:35:26,479
to an extent where it's two ways that we're going

1524
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,319
to lead to the same. Place now let's fight against

1525
01:35:28,359 --> 01:35:32,560
each other to accelerate that place that we're going to lead.

1526
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:37,560
To it's really. All it is very interesting breakdown he gives.

1527
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,319
There check that out if you guys are, interested Justin

1528
01:35:40,399 --> 01:35:43,399
hinkel Or Jackson hinkel you Interviews Alexander.

1529
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,039
Speaker 2: Dugan i've got some more STUFF i want to get

1530
01:35:45,039 --> 01:35:45,560
through here with.

1531
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 1: You guys real.

1532
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 2: Quick where did that?

1533
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 1: GO i KNOW i had something. Else oh, well that.

1534
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:54,600
Sucks i'm gonna have to go find. It but that's.

1535
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:58,399
Fine so one thing he did mention there was this

1536
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:03,079
dark enlightenment and we've talked about The Dark Enlightenment agnausium

1537
01:36:03,119 --> 01:36:03,920
on this, show of.

1538
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:08,279
Speaker 2: Course but one thing we mentioned with.

1539
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:15,600
Speaker 1: The Dark Enlightenment genesis, Book kissinger was A kissinger. Right

1540
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:19,119
kissinger had a book with THE i want to, say

1541
01:36:19,159 --> 01:36:22,600
The GOOGLE ceo and some OTHER ceo and it was Called,

1542
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:27,640
Genesis Artificial, Intelligence hope and The Human. Spirit, Okay and

1543
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:30,880
in this book he talked about The Dark enlightenment AND

1544
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:34,840
i want to get to show you what he says

1545
01:36:35,119 --> 01:36:39,239
that that is to him for lack of better, terms

1546
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:43,479
BECAUSE i think it lays a lot of. Credence but

1547
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,600
how this relates to THE. Ai now, Again dugan, said

1548
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,359
this would be the end of the human brain as

1549
01:36:49,399 --> 01:36:53,279
we know, it, right the human, brain the end of

1550
01:36:53,279 --> 01:36:56,840
the human. Brain that is a major statement to. Say

1551
01:36:56,920 --> 01:37:00,039
and THEN ai is going to cause the end of

1552
01:37:00,079 --> 01:37:02,840
the human. Brain and when you mix that in with

1553
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,560
the OTHER u kind of version of WHAT i was,

1554
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:09,279
saying which is THAT ai is, using you, know man

1555
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:13,039
right to erase the human. Species singularity is going to

1556
01:37:13,079 --> 01:37:17,479
erase the human. Species singularity is where humanity is, discarded

1557
01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:21,479
where the human brain ceases to exist in a hive

1558
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:24,800
mind takes over a digital hive. Mind that is what

1559
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:29,000
this Dark enlightenment. Is so when you think of things

1560
01:37:29,079 --> 01:37:34,479
like chatchpt, psychosis, right this is kind of what we're

1561
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:40,159
talking about. Here so so let me get to it.

1562
01:37:40,199 --> 01:37:46,520
HERE i THINK i found, It, okay sh fuck, me.

1563
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,800
DUDE i hate this scribed. SHIT i don't know if

1564
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:49,359
you guys know what this.

1565
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:49,600
Speaker 7: Is.

1566
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:53,239
Speaker 1: Scribed it is the dumbest thing in the. World but

1567
01:37:53,319 --> 01:37:59,399
it's the only PLACE i can find this, book SO

1568
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:01,000
i can show you what he says about The Dark

1569
01:38:01,079 --> 01:38:11,119
enlightenment in the. Book, sorry, guys we'll get. There we'll get.

1570
01:38:11,119 --> 01:38:14,199
There you guys are being, great all, Right so let

1571
01:38:14,199 --> 01:38:20,039
me find it. Described, yeah they don't have this LIKE

1572
01:38:20,119 --> 01:38:23,600
pdf for this. Book it's very hard to. FIND i feel,

1573
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,359
like you, know of, course that's another you, know.

1574
01:38:25,319 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 2: You got to buy the.

1575
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,560
Speaker 1: BOOK i might as well have just done, it because

1576
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:31,479
at this POINT i reference it kind of, often This

1577
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:40,119
genesis book By kissinger and This Google CEO's genesis. Book,

1578
01:38:44,239 --> 01:38:46,239
god it is impossible to. Find he always go ahead

1579
01:38:46,239 --> 01:38:48,520
and let you guys watch. Me maybe it'll be a

1580
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:53,039
little better that. Way all, right let's pull up this

1581
01:38:53,119 --> 01:38:55,359
book and we're gonna find This Dark enlightenment in. There

1582
01:38:56,479 --> 01:39:02,439
de scribed here it, is, okay finding document.

1583
01:39:06,039 --> 01:39:06,239
Speaker 2: Dark.

1584
01:39:06,319 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 1: Enlightenment let's. Look it's a slow, motherfucker isn't?

1585
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:14,159
Speaker 7: It?

1586
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:24,399
Speaker 1: Okay? Fifty? Okay so right here it talks about come,

1587
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:28,840
on get out, here piece of. Shit go.

1588
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:33,159
Speaker 2: Twelve.

1589
01:39:33,159 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 1: Seconds we gotta wait twelve seconds to read this damn.

1590
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:38,439
Page look at. This unlock the twenty pages after AN

1591
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:42,399
ad seven, seconds five.

1592
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:46,039
Speaker 2: Seconds we're almost, there, guys This.

1593
01:39:46,039 --> 01:39:46,439
Speaker 1: Why don't you?

1594
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:48,279
Speaker 2: Described what the hell they make you? Watch?

1595
01:39:48,279 --> 01:39:51,640
Speaker 1: It gotta watch a ad just just to read, Something,

1596
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,359
Okay so let me hurry up and read this before

1597
01:39:54,359 --> 01:39:59,239
they give us ANOTHER ad. Here. Okay so in, itself

1598
01:39:59,279 --> 01:40:02,720
the emergence of such belief as an accepted method in

1599
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,960
the pursuit of the objective truth marks major transformation in

1600
01:40:06,039 --> 01:40:09,159
modern human. Thought for even IF ai models do not

1601
01:40:09,279 --> 01:40:13,279
understand the world in the human, sense because machines empathod

1602
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:20,000
emphatically do not experience consciousness or, subjectivity their objective capacity

1603
01:40:20,039 --> 01:40:22,800
to reach new and accurate conclusions about our world by

1604
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:26,399
non human methods not only disrupts disrupts our reliance on

1605
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:30,800
the scientific. Method see because we're getting information from machines

1606
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:34,359
that don't actually have the ability to, experience consciousness or.

1607
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:39,560
Subjectivity so if we're getting information from, them what can this?

1608
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:42,399
Mean will The age OF ai not only fail to

1609
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:46,199
propel humanity, forward but instead catalyze a return to a

1610
01:40:46,279 --> 01:40:52,000
pre modern acceptance of an unexplained? Authority in, short might

1611
01:40:52,039 --> 01:40:54,920
we be on the precipice of a great reversal in human?

1612
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,600
Speaker 2: Cognition a dark?

1613
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,560
Speaker 1: Enlightenment so that is exactly what we're doing talking about

1614
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:04,960
here and how it relates TO ai and, everything.

1615
01:41:06,079 --> 01:41:06,279
Speaker 2: For.

1616
01:41:06,319 --> 01:41:09,239
Speaker 1: Sure so let me see IF i can this other one?

1617
01:41:09,279 --> 01:41:19,680
Here so, Anyway, yeah so that's the dark. Enlightenment you,

1618
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:23,880
know it's the reversal of the human cognition via, technology,

1619
01:41:24,119 --> 01:41:26,279
right and this is kind of what we're dealing with,

1620
01:41:26,399 --> 01:41:32,319
today you, know the, CHAT, gpt, psychosis misinformation, age, right.

1621
01:41:34,199 --> 01:41:35,039
Speaker 2: But this is where we're.

1622
01:41:35,079 --> 01:41:41,560
Speaker 1: At, dude sounds like the audio from the video is

1623
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:44,000
being heard through the, mic not the. Webpage oh my,

1624
01:41:44,079 --> 01:41:48,319
APOLOGIES i hope it came through all. Right look at

1625
01:41:48,319 --> 01:41:51,359
the star Of, istar the eight Pointed. Star, yeah, man

1626
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:52,680
let's go. Ahead look at. THAT i, Mean i'm not

1627
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:55,640
surprised that that would be related to this eight chaos,

1628
01:41:55,640 --> 01:42:03,880
star the eight star Star. Star how many does The

1629
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:06,680
statue Of, liberty have the? Crown how many is on the?

1630
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:12,319
Crown is it seven or? Eight i'm curious about. That,

1631
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:17,680
OH i got something else to tell you about. Too

1632
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,119
don't let me. Forget, okay don't let me. FORGET i

1633
01:42:20,159 --> 01:42:22,800
got something else to tell you guys. About it's very

1634
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:27,239
very very. INTERESTING i want you guys to see, one, two, three, four, five, six.

1635
01:42:27,319 --> 01:42:29,840
Seven that's WHAT i. Thought there's seven on The statue

1636
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:37,039
Of liberty for hermetic the. Hermetics seven of, course very telling, There,

1637
01:42:37,119 --> 01:42:40,760
Okay so here's the Star vistar as Be dale, said

1638
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:42,319
it is eight pointed.

1639
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 2: Eight.

1640
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: Pointed here it. Is we've seen this all over the, place,

1641
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:51,720
Right you've seen this with The sumerians Uh, inernaki. Right

1642
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:53,479
this is the kind Of internaki kind of.

1643
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:58,760
Speaker 2: Deal The. Anaga very.

1644
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: Nice so let me go and show you this now

1645
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:04,199
BEFORE i forget speaking to The statue Of, Liberty America

1646
01:43:05,039 --> 01:43:11,479
freedom the end of. It where we're. Heading let's check this.

1647
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:15,319
Out so somebody posted. THIS i don't know if you

1648
01:43:15,359 --> 01:43:18,359
guys have seen. This let me make sure i'm, sharing,

1649
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:25,079
OKAY i. Am walmart has these these. Plates United states

1650
01:43:25,119 --> 01:43:29,680
Of america seventeen seventy six to twenty twenty. Six, now

1651
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,920
notice the flag is upside down as it says here

1652
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:36,119
on this post two hundred and fiftieth. Anniversary you, know

1653
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:38,680
it almost looks like a tombstone the way it's kind

1654
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:40,800
of just, saying, like you, know this date to this.

1655
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:46,119
DATE i was talking about this with my, wife and

1656
01:43:46,319 --> 01:43:48,199
this is gonna get real, weird. GUYS i hope you

1657
01:43:48,239 --> 01:43:50,560
guys are paying attention, though BECAUSE i think it's. Real

1658
01:43:51,079 --> 01:43:55,359
seventeen seventy. Six let's do a little cabbalistic, math a

1659
01:43:55,399 --> 01:43:56,239
little cabbalistic.

1660
01:43:56,399 --> 01:43:58,600
Speaker 2: Numerology, okay let's have a little.

1661
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:04,399
Speaker 1: Fun one seven is eight plus seven is fifteen plus

1662
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:08,279
six is eleven or twenty. One so that's, three, Right

1663
01:44:08,319 --> 01:44:13,159
so seventeen seventy six equals, three twenty twenty six equals,

1664
01:44:13,199 --> 01:44:18,600
ten two two and six is ten, together that makes thirteen.

1665
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:29,600
Thirteen thirteen thirteen is down lucky number for The. Masons

1666
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:32,079
why is? That do you? Guys? Remember?

1667
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:34,119
Speaker 2: Well that would Because JOCK.

1668
01:44:34,199 --> 01:44:37,600
Speaker 1: D Malay. Uh let's look this up if we. Can

1669
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:44,760
jock Dy molay was killed by The pope uh and

1670
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:52,439
The king On friday the, thirteenth and he was the

1671
01:44:52,560 --> 01:45:00,239
leader of The Knights Templar Jocti malay execution and The

1672
01:45:00,239 --> 01:45:04,199
friday thirteenth. Connection Jacti, malay the Last Grand master of

1673
01:45:04,279 --> 01:45:07,600
The Knights, templar which later, became of, course The Free

1674
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:13,399
masons right, afterwards was. Executed, well that's. Weird the arrest

1675
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:15,680
itself occurred On october, thirteenth SO i guess that's when

1676
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:20,039
they were grabbed Up friday the. Thirteenth but point, is

1677
01:45:20,319 --> 01:45:23,239
thirteen is an unlucky number for The, masons, Okay and

1678
01:45:23,279 --> 01:45:26,520
The masons built this. Country and of, course you, know

1679
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:32,239
we talked about this The economist twenty twenty, six where

1680
01:45:32,279 --> 01:45:35,560
you have two hundred and fiftieth birthday with the handcuff

1681
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:39,359
coming off to a, fist almost indicating the losses of,

1682
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:42,920
freedom police, state if you, will and that would be

1683
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,720
the end Of america as we know, it which would,

1684
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:50,159
be of course making sense from the plate's. Perspective if

1685
01:45:50,199 --> 01:45:51,720
you were to put that into perspective of what that

1686
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:53,760
plate is, saying it makes perfect.

1687
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:57,319
Speaker 2: Sense so graveyard vibes for.

1688
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 1: Real, Yeah i'm sure trying to make it because they're

1689
01:46:03,119 --> 01:46:05,439
rooting for, that aren't they shut? Out?

1690
01:46:05,439 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 2: Still so, yeah that's where we're.

1691
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 1: At So i've went into a lot of This dougan

1692
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,960
stuff the Traditionalist we're not done, necessarily.

1693
01:46:13,359 --> 01:46:15,079
Speaker 2: BUT i think we've given a lot of.

1694
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 1: Background to how this accelerationist and traditionalist movement go. Together

1695
01:46:22,159 --> 01:46:26,720
and another part of this Is. Discordianism, okay now we

1696
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:30,720
talked about this a little. Bit order and disorder both

1697
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:35,159
use to create very much like. Entropy i'll talk about

1698
01:46:35,279 --> 01:46:39,880
entropy another, time but they Use discordianism through mimetic. Magic mimetic,

1699
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:45,600
warfare self replicating illusions from, memes, paradoxes pranks is the

1700
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:48,600
prototype for the mimetic magic that we get used on

1701
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:53,359
all the. Time, Right so for, instance you have things

1702
01:46:53,399 --> 01:46:57,199
like They live Or Fight club where you have, panic,

1703
01:46:57,239 --> 01:47:01,960
confusion unease from symbols that are being, hidden simple or,

1704
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:06,399
subliminally so nothing is. True it's kind of the. Philosophy

1705
01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:09,279
it's just a matter of perspective and engineering said perspective

1706
01:47:09,319 --> 01:47:14,840
to engineer beliefs into your own. Will so this process

1707
01:47:15,279 --> 01:47:19,960
of mimetic warfare is identify a target emotion and code

1708
01:47:20,279 --> 01:47:24,520
a similar, narrative repeat until it passes the critical thought,

1709
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:30,439
process and harvest the behavioral change the. Outcome so magic

1710
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:34,079
is now turned into mass Psychology this is the mind

1711
01:47:34,119 --> 01:47:41,199
war and cywar tactics that have been. Materialized so a

1712
01:47:41,279 --> 01:47:44,960
meme is a condensed thought form right charged by people's you,

1713
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:48,800
know interpretations of that meme charges.

1714
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:50,359
Speaker 2: It it's a hyper Sidial.

1715
01:47:52,079 --> 01:47:57,119
Speaker 1: So it's digital, sorcery the unconscious sorcery that is using

1716
01:47:57,159 --> 01:47:59,600
beliefs to shape reality through.

1717
01:48:00,199 --> 01:48:02,600
Speaker 2: Images, memes, narratives.

1718
01:48:04,319 --> 01:48:09,239
Speaker 1: Very very, crazy but this enslaves people via, beliefs, perceptions

1719
01:48:09,279 --> 01:48:12,720
emotions of beliefs are all used as, tools not, truths

1720
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:16,760
but they're used to generate the emotions and engineer programmed

1721
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:21,359
narratives and this controls the condition of any belief and

1722
01:48:21,399 --> 01:48:29,840
then they believe anything that is medical warfare and that

1723
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:33,039
is being used in the accelerationist. Movement and on the

1724
01:48:33,119 --> 01:48:36,000
other side of, it you have the traditionalist, movement which

1725
01:48:36,079 --> 01:48:40,680
is The Tucker carlson's right people that are calling out

1726
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,560
what's going. On AND i think that whenever you merge them,

1727
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:47,239
together you find that the dissolution of the society that

1728
01:48:47,279 --> 01:48:50,880
we currently live in is the, goal and it's being

1729
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:56,000
brought about very quickly via, accelerationism and it's being done

1730
01:48:56,039 --> 01:49:01,079
from multiple. Angles the strategy of, tension the star right

1731
01:49:01,239 --> 01:49:04,119
coming from eight points coming from all angles to try

1732
01:49:04,119 --> 01:49:07,840
to attack this. Situation AND i think that they're doing

1733
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:11,119
it massively. Well AND i think that there's very few

1734
01:49:11,119 --> 01:49:13,640
people that see it coming, me maybe a few other

1735
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:16,199
people with the traditionalist aspect of.

1736
01:49:16,239 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 2: This very few people see this.

1737
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:21,319
Speaker 1: Involvement and let me show you just to give a

1738
01:49:21,359 --> 01:49:22,600
little bit of proof About Tucker.

1739
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:25,319
Speaker 2: CARLSON i listen to them all the, time SO i

1740
01:49:25,319 --> 01:49:26,000
would recognize.

1741
01:49:26,039 --> 01:49:28,399
Speaker 1: This and Then i'm going to show you The Aleister

1742
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:30,680
crowley situation with him as.

1743
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:32,800
Speaker 2: Well, okay so let's check this.

1744
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 1: OUT i hope that the video or audio comes through

1745
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:38,119
good for you, guys at least it comes through.

1746
01:49:38,159 --> 01:49:47,319
Speaker 11: Some so there's the golm full of The Western union

1747
01:49:47,359 --> 01:49:51,199
plornity and the rise of the.

1748
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 12: Multipolarity and so you're watching the end of the Global American,

1749
01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:03,000
empire the unipolar, world and so the death of the

1750
01:50:03,119 --> 01:50:04,800
unipolar moment and of.

1751
01:50:06,239 --> 01:50:08,560
Speaker 5: The institutions within.

1752
01:50:10,079 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 12: The evangelical Movement American Protestant christianity are going, away but

1753
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:22,039
they will be replaced by something better and pure.

1754
01:50:22,079 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 4: Living in the crucial moment of this emergency of multipolarities.

1755
01:50:28,039 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 3: Including, Russia, China iran and say it's time for a

1756
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:36,960
new world order where we are partners in this.

1757
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:40,680
Speaker 12: RELATIONSHIP i think that's the wisest possible advice and probably

1758
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:42,520
the only path that preserves.

1759
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:50,439
Speaker 1: Civilization, yeah multipolar, world we're heading towards something. Better this

1760
01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:54,520
unipolar world ending is not. Bad we're heading towards something, better,

1761
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:59,880
right and that is a. Problem where the fuck is? This,

1762
01:51:00,399 --> 01:51:02,039
OKAY i know what to, Do So i'm gonna have

1763
01:51:02,039 --> 01:51:03,359
to get you guys off here and Then i'll pull

1764
01:51:03,359 --> 01:51:05,159
it up because it's a lot of clunkiness AND i

1765
01:51:05,199 --> 01:51:08,800
don't want to make you watch. It but, yeah we'll

1766
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:12,520
have to get into THE Ufc epstein connection another time as,

1767
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:18,479
well with the disinformation, Company Kenneth, Anger Joe, rogan the

1768
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:21,479
connection with The satanic. Group we'll probably talk About Michael

1769
01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:24,920
aquino possibly being involved as A zodiac. Killer tomorrow, definitely

1770
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:27,840
hope you guys can tune. In i'm, Sorry monday With William.

1771
01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:29,399
RAMSEY i hope you guys can tune in with that

1772
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:35,640
because that is gonna be. Amazing i've been researching that

1773
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:39,119
and there is some, interesting interesting things going on with

1774
01:51:39,159 --> 01:51:44,880
that for, Sure so a lot going. On LIKE i, said,

1775
01:51:45,399 --> 01:51:49,880
Tomorrow i'm gonna be going On. Murra, Tomorrow i'm gonna

1776
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:54,520
be going on With steven On Biblical, hitman And i'll

1777
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:57,000
also be going on to or Having tim come on

1778
01:51:57,680 --> 01:52:00,239
and we will talk about some cool shit With New.

1779
01:52:00,239 --> 01:52:07,920
Atlantis we kind of touched on it some. Today let

1780
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:10,600
me find this real, Quick Dugan, Crowley let's see if

1781
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:15,880
we can find. It but, yeah it's gonna be. Awesome i'm.

1782
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:24,359
Excited where the Fuck i've got to find, this? Dude

1783
01:52:24,359 --> 01:52:30,960
this is, crazy all, Right well look at, this this is.

1784
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,079
Awesome so we're gonna show. This The wheel Of Fortune

1785
01:52:33,079 --> 01:52:36,960
tarot is literally the one that has that eight Pointed chaotics,

1786
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:40,479
star The chaos star on. It TOMORROW i will be

1787
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:43,199
on there With steven From Biblical. Hitman i'll be going

1788
01:52:43,199 --> 01:52:48,600
on his show at about six or seven, pm and

1789
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:57,279
Then tim will come on at eight eight. Pm and

1790
01:52:57,319 --> 01:52:59,840
Then monday we'll be on here With William ramsey about six. Pm,

1791
01:53:00,159 --> 01:53:05,239
well doing The Michael quino. Again so this is uh

1792
01:53:05,319 --> 01:53:07,119
hid In. America he's got some good shit right. Here

1793
01:53:07,199 --> 01:53:09,800
let's check this. OUT i want to Find i've got

1794
01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:13,079
to find this because it's so. IMPORTANT i feel, like

1795
01:53:14,399 --> 01:53:23,640
give me two, Seconds i'll find it right. Now what

1796
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:36,039
SHOULD i Type? Dugan all? Right So dugan moment of

1797
01:53:36,079 --> 01:53:39,439
silence For. Crowley let's see if we can find this damn.

1798
01:53:40,199 --> 01:53:41,399
Speaker 2: Video there it.

1799
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:42,279
Speaker 1: Is let's, go.

1800
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 2: Let's.

1801
01:53:44,119 --> 01:53:48,199
Speaker 1: Go, okay all, right let me get you guys back up.

1802
01:53:48,199 --> 01:53:53,279
Here let's get this shit on, here, dude. Okay Alexander

1803
01:53:53,359 --> 01:53:58,239
dugan Embraces Aleistair crowley nineteen ninety. Five so notice this

1804
01:53:58,319 --> 01:54:03,000
is A chinese man here calling him. On let me

1805
01:54:03,039 --> 01:54:20,439
make Sure i'm sharing okay food for those, LISTENING i

1806
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:23,079
ask you to honor the memory of the Late Alistair.

1807
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:24,640
Speaker 2: Crowley with a moment of silence.

1808
01:54:27,159 --> 01:54:27,199
Speaker 9: To.

1809
01:54:27,239 --> 01:54:30,119
Speaker 1: Compete if someone in the hall has any cigar lighters and,

1810
01:54:30,159 --> 01:54:32,000
matches light them up and keep them quiet for the.

1811
01:54:32,079 --> 01:54:45,279
Speaker 7: Minute his beach, Cheese oh my.

1812
01:54:45,319 --> 01:54:48,039
Speaker 1: God one is thy, being, ginning one is thy, spirit

1813
01:54:48,199 --> 01:54:52,640
and the permit permutation. One so this Is Aleister, crowley

1814
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:57,319
quotes from his. BOOK i can't remember which one it

1815
01:54:57,359 --> 01:55:00,319
probably is. From it's probably from the fuck what did

1816
01:55:00,319 --> 01:55:01,359
he call his main? Book?

1817
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:03,319
Speaker 2: Whatever dud it's from THE O T o.

1818
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:11,399
Speaker 3: Whatever egan's stock agents's where he.

1819
01:55:11,479 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 1: Is that Is Alexander dugan right. There, uh he is

1820
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:19,720
embracing out you, know he's literally Quoting.

1821
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:25,239
Speaker 2: Crowley what.

1822
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:27,279
Speaker 5: This Vic.

1823
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:34,680
Speaker 1: Let me extol thy perfections before men in the image

1824
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:38,159
of the sixfold star that flames across the vault inane

1825
01:55:38,279 --> 01:55:39,960
and let me reveal thy.

1826
01:55:40,119 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 2: Perfection do you?

1827
01:55:44,760 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 1: Starving there's people dancing all creepy him and, SHIT i mean,

1828
01:56:00,920 --> 01:56:07,119
Yeah so you get the, gist you, Know Alexander dugan Embraces.

1829
01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:15,520
Crowley he reads From crowley's Laber a LIBER, Dcccxi thelamic

1830
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:19,000
text considered a holy book by followers Of. Crowley So

1831
01:56:20,319 --> 01:56:24,399
dugan is literally engaging in the esoteric, thought specifically chaos,

1832
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:27,560
magic and situates himself within a tradition of occult.

1833
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 2: Influence so you understand that.

1834
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Speaker 1: These people Like Professor, jiang you, know they're supposed to

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be the good guys that are bringing in a good traditionalist.

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Speaker 2: Movement but when you look, deeper you find that they Follow.

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Speaker 1: Crowley AND i thought that people in The Dark enlightenment

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Followed crowley's So i'm kind of confused how they're any.

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Different and so then you start to, realize, like, oh

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these guys are all just a part of the same.

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Speaker 2: Movement from different.

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Speaker 1: Angles it's the chaos, magic it's the manifesting change through

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01:56:57,560 --> 01:57:01,680
multiple tension strategy of. Tension this is what we're dealing, with.

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Guys so this is a, major major. Situation you. Know

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it's just crazy that that this show.

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Speaker 2: Here you.

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Speaker 1: Know i'm happy to say we're finding this shit ahead of,

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01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:15,279
time or at least while it's happening to where we

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01:57:15,319 --> 01:57:16,840
can kind of point it out with you. Guys and

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it kind of worries me a little, bit to be,

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01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:22,600
honest because it's, like, fuck, man we're kind of we're on. It,

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01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:25,079
dude we are on, it you.

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01:57:25,159 --> 01:57:26,079
Speaker 9: Know but.

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Speaker 1: It's part of the.

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01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:32,399
Speaker 2: Game, dude gotta go. Hard SO tnt shout, OUT tnt

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01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:33,479
how much of the?

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01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:39,079
Speaker 1: Plates they're probably two dollars fifty cents for two hundred

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01:57:39,079 --> 01:57:45,880
and fifty you guys lost? ME i hope. Not the

1859
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:48,479
guy earlier was talking about the home mind concept that

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01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:54,840
would be post singularity worth looking up post. Singularity, wow

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01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:58,039
maybe we're already. THERE i didn't know people were talking

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01:57:58,079 --> 01:58:01,479
about post. SINGULARITY i guess from what we were just

1863
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:04,760
talking about you could extrapolate that some people have spoken

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01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:08,119
about that by, now, right let's look this. Up the

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01:58:08,199 --> 01:58:14,960
post singularity age after man loses his, brain he joins

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01:58:15,039 --> 01:58:17,359
the hive. Mind let's see what that looks. Like the

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01:58:17,479 --> 01:58:23,840
point at which artificial intelligence surpasses human intelligence and then

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01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:29,239
begins recursively improving, itself leading to an intelligence. Explosion in this,

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01:58:29,359 --> 01:58:33,279
phase human civilization is fundamentally transformed by the capabilities OF,

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ai often beyond our capability or ability to predict or control.

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Speaker 7: It.

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Speaker 1: Right so, again it's this idea of let the objects

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01:58:43,119 --> 01:58:46,840
gain its own intelligence and then surpass man and be.

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01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:51,000
Speaker 2: Autonomous you, know let man turn a a a.

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01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:57,399
Speaker 1: Object into an autonomous thinking machine or conscious.

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01:58:57,479 --> 01:58:58,439
Speaker 2: Being right.

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01:59:00,359 --> 01:59:03,359
Speaker 1: In the, process we would be rendering ourselves an. Animal,

1878
01:59:03,560 --> 01:59:06,239
right we would be changing our own body or because

1879
01:59:06,279 --> 01:59:08,279
they are kind of dumbing us down in the, process

1880
01:59:08,319 --> 01:59:10,479
they're making, it like you just, Said, bedale we've got

1881
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:15,039
brain fog in the, process where being the dark enlightenment

1882
01:59:15,279 --> 01:59:21,680
The kissinger mentioned right CHAT gpt. Psychosis our brains are

1883
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:24,399
being destroyed in the. Process, Dude that's What i'm trying to.

1884
01:59:24,439 --> 01:59:28,239
Say so very, crazy BUT i think that's what's going.

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01:59:28,279 --> 01:59:31,399
ON i hope you guys enjoyed. This Alexander dugan kind

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01:59:31,439 --> 01:59:33,800
of deep dive. Here this is just the start as

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01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:39,439
far as exposing the traditionalist movement exposing This luciferian doctrine

1888
01:59:39,439 --> 01:59:42,079
that's creeping up through this occult theocracy in many many,

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01:59:42,239 --> 01:59:46,479
forms looking posed to the other, form but really it's

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01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:50,159
a part of. It it's enjoyable to talk about with you,

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01:59:50,239 --> 01:59:52,840
guys AND i hope you guys enjoyed. It thank YOU

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01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:55,880
nef for. Moderating thank You chat for always being here and.

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01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:59,239
Supporting if you enjoyed, everything please go support the show

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01:59:59,279 --> 02:00:02,079
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02:00:02,159 --> 02:00:05,439
friend or if it's, donating Joining, patreon whatever it is

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02:00:05,479 --> 02:00:08,039
you feel comfortable. With we need, it we appreciate, it

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02:00:08,119 --> 02:00:10,600
and we love you, guys and we're gonna be coming

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back hitting A herd all. Weekend two more shows tomorrow

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and One. MONDAY i appreciate, you, guys and it really

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is a pleasure to do. This so, yeah you, guys take.

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