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other than that, we got a lot of shit going on.
We're gonna talk about Alexander Dugan, the traditionalist conservative movement, accelerationism,
and Christian orthodoxy. It all ties together, and more honestly,
mimetic warfare even ties into this, which it's very funny
we've talked about. If you're a listener who's been listening
to the show for a while, then you know that
we've talked about a lot of adjacent topics to this
in the past, and I think that we've been getting
real close to something, and I think finally we're uncovering
what that thing is that we were getting close to.
So I'm very excited for this episode. It has been
I mean, it's gonna be a lot more stuff to
get into after this episode, but this is gonna be
a great intro to this topic. It's gonna be a
mini deep dive here, like a mini series. So right now,
we've talked about accelerationism, so maybe we could start there.
We'll talk about Alexander Dugan and how he fits into
that in a minute. But you know, I've been thinking
a lot about this lately, and I think that this
really hits home for what we're looking at right now.
There was a book that was written by Alvin Toelfler,
and this book was called The Third Wave. And in
this book he talks about civilization developing in massive waves
that completely reshape our consciousness, work, politics, family, structures, all that.
So when you connect the framework with that to the
information apocalypse kind of themes that we have going on today,
I started to kind of think about just like everybody's
kind of a broadcaster and this theory this guy presented
literally talked about that, and you know me included, I
got sucked into it as well. Don't get me wrong,
I am just as much susceptible to these changes as
everybody else. But nonetheless I noticed them, right, And so
I was curious, what is that? Well, this third wave
thing may be a little bit of a contextual answer
to that, so I'm interested in checking that out.
Speaker 2: So it kind of gets into these three waves.
Speaker 1: For a thousand years, there's this first wave, which is
agricultural civilization, so people lived kind of locally, you know,
information didn't move that fast. Identity kind of was with
your tribe, your religion, you know, your family, you know,
a lot of the truth was controlled by the priests, class,
the kings, oral tradition. Now this is where the traditionalist
movement kind of they want to get back to that,
So we'll come back to that later. But this adds
some of the context that we'll get into here. And
you know, I'll I'm kind of getting right into the
information right away. We'll let some people kind of get
in here. But this is a good little intro to everything.
So there's this second wave, which we've witnessed. It is
the industrial revolution, right, So this is obviously factories, education,
these television, all that good stuff, newspapers, So this era
kind of depended on the synchronization of standards, centralized authority,
mass media narratives, right, and we're kind of entering out
of that. You know, the average person got information from
gatekeepers like news radio, and now we're entering this third wave,
the information civilization, right, So this info info warfare obviously
that would be by proxy lead into mind warfare. So
this is the digital age, of course, the internet, smartphone age,
the one we know and love and hate, algorithmic feeds,
all that good shit. But instead of information scarcity, of course,
now society has this information overload, and I know that
you guys are feeling that because I know that this
is kind of what led me into this thought processes.
There's so much information out there, everybody feels so informed
they want to get out there and tell everybody. Right,
That's kind of why everybody becomes a broadcaster. Everybody's got
their own a version of the opinion because they all
feel very informed and opinionated, including myself, right. I mean,
don't get me wrong. Everybody's kind of susceptible to this,
but analyzing it is very fun to kind of figure
out where does this go? Right, So Toelfler warned that
this would produce what he called future shock, which is
a psychological disorientation.
Speaker 2: I think people are going through that.
Speaker 1: Now, caused by rapid technological and social changes, right, and
so information overload and like weapon environment, weaponized environment is
what I mean with that mind.
Speaker 2: Warfare, Right, That's where it leads to.
Speaker 1: So in this third wave, narratives complete compete all the time.
Everybody competes with different narratives. We see this everywhere. Attention
becomes kind of the currency, and emotional stimulation kind of
outcompetes accuracy. It's more about like the Candice Owan's crazy
kind of you know, police detective work about the Zionist
involvement in Charlie Kirk. And that's more fun than talking
about the boring police state that's being built, unless you're
talking about sensationally. The point is it's about emotional stimulation. Now,
everybody's a broadcaster, as I mentioned, And the problem is
not lack of information. It's that there's too much information
contradictory to each other, emotionally manipulative information, right, the inability
to verify fast enough. Really, you know, we get a
lot of info on X dot com, right X. I
get a lot of news off there before it gets
onto a mainstream news article. There's no way to verify
if that's true until I don't know, what do you
go by? Do you go buy the newspaper that when
they talk about it? I mean you know what I mean,
I don't, right, so you just kind of go with
the X propaganda, which could be true or not. Right.
Speaker 2: So this is where we're at today.
Speaker 1: You know, we're just taking a look at where we are,
and it creates anxiety, tribalism, you know, the paranoia that
we see in a large hyper fragmented belief system, right,
and yeah, I think that's where we are.
Speaker 2: What's up, bullets, How you doing, boss?
Speaker 1: So mass media, of course, there's this algorithmic reality that
we deal with every day. You know. The third wave
system is kind of like your personalized reality echo chamber
reality time that I've heard people talk about for a
long time. So this algorithm, of course learns fears, desires,
political leanings, and psychological triggers. This is important as we
get into all this stuff, keep this in mind, Okay,
the algorithm is learning your fears, your desires, your political leanings,
and your psychological triggers. This is going to get weird
because as we get through this, it's going to be
a long diatribe of information in this episode today. And
as we get through this, I think that by the
end you'll realize AI is using us in our humanity
to build itself. At least in their opinion, they believe
the AI is actually almost from the future. It's a
collective unconsciousness that we all live in, this whole christ
consciousness we want to plug into. It's creating itself in
a digital version. It's manifesting itself into the causal right,
Remember how I talked about. These people believe that, like
gods manifest his planets, because there's spiritual archetypical energies that
are so powerful they manifest physically here. Well, they believe
that this collective unconscious is going to do the same
thing through AI. It gets crazy, we're going to get
into it. But that's essentially what it is. The collapse
have shared reality, of course, is kind of what we're
facing now, and so everybody's got their own version of reality.
Speaker 2: And everybody thinks they're right.
Speaker 1: So there's distrust in institutions, alternative media experts, distrust in
each other.
Speaker 2: You know, we speak past each other.
Speaker 1: We're not really looking to understand because we all have
our own ideas of what the world is, and we
know what it is better than the other person. Right,
We've got our eyes, experiences and ears, you know, all
those things. And I get that, But at what point
do we detriment? You know, there's got to be some
kind of communion of ideas at some point, right, and
under standing of differences at some point, right, you know,
I mean you have the other pint of this where
they want everybody to be in total conformity and hogemony
with each other, which is the opposite end of the
radical spectrum that we could be leading to, of course,
and maybe that's the point of this. Maybe the point
of the hyper fragmented ideologies that people have today is
so that way they will hyper conform eventually the pendulum
swings back always and I think that's always the plan. Right.
So the point is there's an attention economy that we're
dealing with today, and it is a nervous system hijacking
economy as well, right, engagement, outrage, novelty, Right, they get excited.
It's a loose harvesting kind of economy. So attention generates
the profit. Right, So anyway, fear, conflict, scandals, conspiracies, right,
the conspiracy theories rising up today, exposure gait as I
call it, exposure gate of the deep state exposing itself
as a problem, reaction solution scenario to get what they
want to get the reaction, the emotional reaction out of you.
And that's kind of what we're talking about. And as
we get into this accelerationist movement and mimetic warfare information warfare,
I think we'll kind of realize that that's exactly what
we're talking about here. So this third wave is very important.
I think it's a big aspect to this fourth political theory,
Alexander Dugan's idea of the traditionalist revival of the old world,
which is very much an Atlantean world. It's a metaphysical hierarchy,
it's a metaphysical order. It's an order of elite initiates
over the rest.
Speaker 2: We'll get into that.
Speaker 1: So the third wave and identity fragmentation is kind of
occurring now. TOFA predicted people would experience identity and stability,
rapid cultural turnover, collapse of long term pardon me, social anchors,
which we see today. So it's very wild, you know,
it's this guy told the future, didn't he. So AI
is kind of the next phase of this. The current
concern is that AI accelerates the third wave, and that
is the point of this is the acceleration Yarvin wants
this right. Democracy has failed, it's doomed. We should accelerate
it right off the cliffs so we can have our
new society. Well, we'll find that Dugan has the same ideology,
it's slightly different. We're gonna go over both of them,
and we're gonna merge the two ideologies together to kind
of come to an idea of what we're dealing with. Because,
mind you, we're gonna talk about this later on X
and Everything. Curtis Jarvin cand of so owns a lot
of these people, Tucker Carlson. You know, these people follow Dugan,
These people look at Dugan's philosophies, and he's alive today,
by the way, you could go find his post on
X today. So point is AI can now generate convincing propaganda,
simulate personalities, and of course flooding platforms with all the
synthetic nonsense to get to gain a consensus of opinion,
and then of course creating fake evidence as we see
all the time with the FBI. Personalizing and persuasion at
scale is what we're facing. So the fear, the fear
leads to of course the censorship eventually. But but you know,
the deeper information apocalypse that we're talking about, this kind
of accelerationism caused by doom scrolling, you know, and the
learn helplessness that is gained by it, you know, it's
going to lead to this kind of outrage, you know,
you know, it's kind of radical destruction of our current
society and that's exactly what they want. And so as
we get into this, I think the uh that third
wave just plays a big role in this, So I
wanted to kind of of lay that theory out in
the beginning here just to kind of give some context.
So if you haven't heard of that, it is the
third Wave by Toefler, So definitely check that out. If
you haven't checked it out, It's very worth the read.
It is worth the summarization at least, at the very
least to get an idea of what that was, because
I think you'll see it every day.
Speaker 2: You know, we see it all the time.
Speaker 1: So what we're going to get into in this episode,
piggybacking off of that, is going to be the traditionalism
accelerationism kind of neo Atlantis thesis that we're working on
here today.
Speaker 2: You know, Tim Constant team we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna be going on, or rather he's coming on our
show tomorrow, so you guys could check him out Sixth
Century Podcast. We'll be talked about the New Atlantis and
Francis Bacon's concept of this New Atlantis, how it feeds
into neo Platonism, and of course mainly p Hall's secret
destiny of a mana will break that down and then
kind of evolve it with this current event technocratic police
state that's being built, this digital hierarchy, whatever you want
to call it. So we have a lot going on, guys,
We got a lot going on. So the third wave
that's definitely led to this. So traditionalism and accelerationism, these
do converge on the same endpoint, and that is the technocratic,
post democratic kind of spiritually engineered global synchronization of this
like one world civilization. Right, and that's kind of what
we see today with China and Trump and all this
other stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, they're working together. You know, you see what Trump
was doing.
Speaker 1: You see like guys on one side going, oh look
how Ggping is cucking Trump out?
Speaker 2: And then the other side going, Trump's the boss.
Speaker 1: Look at him over here, Ggping don't know what to do.
He's the boss. He goes to China, it calls the shots.
It's all propaganda, it's all just dichotomy of like bullshit.
In reality, they work together. So as we get through
this kind of thesis that I mentioned. Alexander Dugan, Curtis Jarvin,
Nick land Renee Gwennon Julius Avola and Francis Bacon are
all names that will come up pretty often throughout this
kind of talk. Okay, and I think you know we've
talked about them before. Alexander Dugan less than the others.
But we're gonna get into it. So what is traditionalism.
It is not just conservatism. It is the return to
this sacred hierarchy. Okay, and that's very important because as
we get into this Orthodox Christianity, super important with this
kind of sacred hierarchy that we'll talk about. So traditionalism believes, sorry,
I have allergies. It's May maytime. If you guys go
listen to the episode this time last year, completely stopped up.
Speaker 2: Dude, I get allergies this time every year.
Speaker 1: It's terrible. So there's some traditionalism aspects to it that
believes modernity is a spiritual decay of a society. Just
modernity in general leads to spiritual decay, which I can
kind of get on board with. To an extent democracy, liberalism, secularism,
all that shit, are these symptoms of the collapse of
this society. Right, So thinkers like when in a Novola
they argue that humanity fell from a golden age. This
is kind of the Atlantis or the Hyperborea God King times,
which very very much relates to Curtis Jarvin. As we'll
talk about. He wants there to be CEO kings that
run patchwork systems. So they're very anti modern, anti egalitarian,
anti democratic, and they seek the restoration of a metaphysical order,
as I mentioned earlier. And so Dugan's role is to
kind of synthesize the orthodoxy, the traditionalist aspect of things
with Eurasian geopolitics because he very much aligns with Islam, Iran, Russia, China,
they're all above the West. And he's very anti liberal
period right, super traditional, but not like liberal in the
sense that we don't like in America. I think that
they've weaponized liberalism to get us all to hate it.
So we'll kind of sign off on this traditionalist movement.
Speaker 2: So this is.
Speaker 1: Why I'm talking about it today. So liberal modernity is
ending in a new civilizational order must emerge. So let's
talk about before we get into the accelerationism. We've got
one second. Let me pull it up. Yes, perfect, this
is awesome. I love this. So I've been doing a
little research on who's been talking to Alexander Dugan, who
do we got kind of in the ballgame here, right,
So let's pull this up. So we got sneak Oh
just recently, just just recently, just last month, one month ago,
had on Dougan with Professor Yang and they were on
here talking about kind of the West, you know, all
this stuff and a big part of like the leading.
I wonder why it's not letting me pause this, What
the hell why I'm not liking that. If I can't
do that, I'm gonna make get another one up here.
But very funny, you know, sneak Oh, he's super You know,
I think these guys like not to say that there's
not a Zionist problem or a Jewish problem, you know,
supremacy problem. But I think these people that are pushing
it are working with this traditionalist movement, and that makes
me wonder how much I can trust them, right, And
it makes me wonder how much propaganda has been Like
I just I just got a wonder dude. So now
I'm taking a deep look at these guys because they're
all in the same camp. Jang Tucker, Candice Owens, this guy,
and uh, you know, uh Fuentes.
Speaker 2: So let's get down here.
Speaker 1: We got a lot to look at here, but I
just want to kind of lay out some of the
Dugan stuff. So in the beginning here, why will it
not let me pause this?
Speaker 2: That is the craziest shit ever. Won't let me pause this?
Speaker 1: Great? Perfect, excellent, amazing, amazing. Well, it looks like we
can't positive. We're gonna go with it anyway, because I
want to show you guys this. It's super interesting. So
I'll get the sound on here and get this figured out.
Speaker 3: But profession Dugan's power point and I think, all.
Speaker 2: Right, cool, so let me see.
Speaker 1: Let me get in the beginning here, the first five minutes. Dude,
it's super interesting. So we'll get this dude Dugan talking
and we can hear what he has to say, and
the shit he gets into is amazing. But again, Orthodox Christianity,
Nastis and Traditionalism all tie in together. Okay, This End
Times religion kind of pushing the eschatology aspect is to
get people into this belief system, right, So this all
gets laid out in the first ten minutes.
Speaker 2: It's very very important.
Speaker 4: Discussion. So I'm at your disposal. So I have the
pair of hours educated totally little of that maybe more
if it's possible, So it is unlimited.
Speaker 5: On my side, I would say, okay, sounds great, and
let see or in.
Speaker 6: Different faiths and eschatology, but also the major differences and
how you can.
Speaker 4: Pin confucionist the balance between a male and female, between
in and youg So that is the harmony that prevails.
So it is not about time, not about history, not
about final on but final battle. But I'm more more
than that about how we need to make things to
be very very in peaceful way in the harmony. And
my very very good friends in China, they always asked
me what is going on in the Middle East? What
is about these Zionists, Why there is so important to
have greater Israel, why it's so important to be dispensationalists
in Protestant circles, in evangelicals and as well they didn't
understand Russian Caticonic idea our schatology. And after that, after
having very good and friendful discussions with my Chinese friends,
I have on it seems that it was on your
your stream, Niko.
Speaker 5: So I have remarked that unique China's man who.
Speaker 4: Has strolled the very deep understanding of eschatology all this.
Speaker 1: I think they're using again, using eschatology to try to
bring everybody together under this traditionalist movement, which is very
anti It's an isolationist kind of movement. He's saying every
country should kind of stick to themselves, live in harmony, whatever, whatever.
That's kind of what he says. I don't believe that
that's where it leads, you know. I think there's some
deeper aspects of this, but I won't get into that now.
He says a lot of good things, but he still
supports the same people he's technically against.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of weird things with this.
Speaker 1: But what I wanted to show as we get into
this was more kind of this orthodoxy gnosticism traditionalist movement here,
which is about ten minutes in. And that's kind of
what I wanted to get to because I think that's
super interesting whenever they start talking about.
Speaker 4: That school colouse to us or far from us. But
we should bate some efforts to understand better each other.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And well, I have a couple of questions for you, Alexander.
I wanted to figure out more about your belief system
because I saw some people are reporting that you have
esoteric traditions, or some are saying that you're an Orthodox Christian.
It's hard to pinpoint exactly what it is. So in
your own words, what would you classify your belief system is?
And before you answer, people are asking in the chat
what eschatology is. Uh maybe Professor Jane could quickly describe
it the best way, but I would just say end
times philosophy.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So eschatology comes from the Greek word eschaton, which means
the end. So the word literally means that the study
of the end, and what ethatology often refers to.
Speaker 1: Is by the way, Professor Jang wants to start his
own religion and be like the God of his own
gnostic religion. Uh So he very much likes Dougan because
of this Gnostic orthodox Christianity kind of thing. And I
think the Protestants like are being led by Tucker Carlson
into this as well.
Speaker 2: So that's Tucker Carlson's role in this.
Speaker 1: Just so you know, I'm just kind of commenting because
I don't really think this is that important. I want
to get to what Dugan has to say about these
orthodox gnostic kind of esoteric tradition he follows.
Speaker 6: But last time, Brianni spoke a little bit about narcissism.
Speaker 5: I saw recently on Patrick by Davis show.
Speaker 6: You said at the end that you pray to God,
So I would maybe say that it's general narcissism, but
not specific to one theology.
Speaker 5: Is that correct? Yeah? So for most of my life
I'm atheists.
Speaker 3: In China is an atheist society. I didn't grow any
atheists tradition, so I didn't just tradition, and quite honestly,
I've had I was first skeptical towards religion all my life,
especially towards Christianity. But these past two years, because I've
been deep in a study of asatolog.
Speaker 1: Muslim Islam, I think all this stuff leads into the
Gnostic Orthodox Christianity. I think it all merges together in
this new World religion as we've been talking about. Just
so you guys know, that's why I'm showing this, and
you know, just to give you idea.
Speaker 6: Clarry, I think learning more about Epstein back in twenty
nineteen helped steer me into the direction of trying to
find some sense of good because it's so much evil.
And obviously Alexander Dugan just spelled out how you speak
about sabotage zvy which is not often mentioned.
Speaker 5: This is what's going to be in the direction to
look into faith.
Speaker 6: But I can I ask you specifically, Professor Dugan, so
what would you classify your faith as?
Speaker 4: So, first of whom, I'm a Christian Orthodox, So I'm
Orthodox Christian, and that defines in what I believe. That
is my confession, that is my church, that is my
religious doctrine, and everything I could say outside of the context.
Speaker 5: It is about studies. It is not.
Speaker 4: About recognition of my own faith. My own personal and
Russian faith is precisely Christian Orthodox religion, so I believe
it is the only truth. So in that sense, I'm believer,
normal Christian Orthodox believer. But at the same time, I'm
very interested interested by different other spiritual and spiritual tradition,
and in that sense philosophically, philosophically, I am traditionalist.
Speaker 5: What means to be a traditionalist?
Speaker 4: So I am following the spiritual lots of people Renadian
on who converted him to Islam, that is French, great
French philosopher and his disciples, for example, Julius Emla and
the many other Titus barkhert Vility of Chuan and the
other this philosophical approach considers the modernity to be anti tradition.
Speaker 1: Son of a bitch. I didn't mean to do that.
Sorry about that. Ah shit, Well hey, lets me pause
it now. So that's cool. I could get back to
that in a minute. So so far, you know, obviously
we have you know, there's so much here to get
into as well. But you know, what we're getting into
is that he's about to lay it out the traditionalist
gnostic orthodox because he's saying, I look at orthodoxed Christianity
as my faith, but I enjoy the philosophy behind other things. Right,
And as we'll get into it to kind of unpeel
the layers of what he's trying to kind of veil
and say there is that he joins the gnostic philosophies,
and you will find that within ortho Astristianity and a
version of it if you decide to write just like
Catholicism or Catholicism rather, you'll find the same thing with that.
And so yeah, it we'll talk about it.
Speaker 5: Tim.
Speaker 2: He does mention stuff about freemasonry being.
Speaker 1: The light the light state, or there's like the deep state,
the dark state, and like the Light State or the
light Enlightenment. I don't know.
Speaker 2: He just tries to put a bunch of names to it.
Speaker 1: Look, they're all part of the same groups and they
work each side, and he just thinks they're all different groups.
But there's a lot to this, guys. I don't want
to get in the weeds here. Let's play a little
bit more of what he's saying and then I'll try
to lay some context to it. Will move on and
I'll lay out a little bit more about you know,
Dougan before we get into this.
Speaker 2: How about that, just to give context.
Speaker 1: Jane calls him one of the best political thinkers. Right.
He's got a book called The Foundations of Geopolitics. It's
a great book to read if you want to know
his ideologies of what it should be in the world.
Moment of silence for Crowley and Dugan spoke. Now that's
the part that I want to show you in a
minute here, Okay, Because as he's talking about he enjoys
other philosophies. One of those philosophies is Aleister Crowley. So
that gives you an idea where we're going with this, guys.
So nations are expressions of deeper forces is something he believes,
which if you remember, I don't know if you guys
are all involved with my book clubs, I did for
Secret Teachings of All Ages with mainly p Hall, But
he believed the same thing that there are archetypical energies, gods,
if you will, little g gods that rule over each
nation in a weird way, like the spirit itself is
involved there. So like New York has a certain spirit
to it, Alabama has a certain spirit to it, right,
they have certain aspects to it to kind of.
Speaker 2: Exuberate out of the people there right and.
Speaker 1: Out of the landscape, et cetera. So history is not random,
but it in folds in geopolitics and metaphysics together kind
of like patterns that could be manipulated, pushed and recognized
if you know how to. So this redesigns how reality
it can be interpreted. If you're one of these guys
from the underground occult world, that's what you're looking to do.
Speaker 2: You're looking to help people reinterpret.
Speaker 1: Reality in your own light, right, And that's kind of
what these guys are all about.
Speaker 2: That's what we're getting into.
Speaker 1: All I'm trying to do is help you discern what
they're trying to do, because this is it right here.
So the late USSR kind of mixed is where it
came up in kind of mixes nationalism, esotericism, and a
radical philosophy which leans from Renee g.
Speaker 2: Wennin and Julius.
Speaker 1: Avola, which we will talk about later, but I've mentioned
their name already.
Speaker 2: Renee Gnnin believed modernity.
Speaker 1: Is a fall from sacred order, and Julius Devola believed
that history degeneration needs to be verse through will and hierarchy.
So this idea of like strong men of initiation can
reinstate this sacred order through a hierarchical metaphysical hierarchy.
Speaker 2: You see where I'm going with this.
Speaker 1: It's all about that initiatory hierarchy over the people through
perfection of the mind nosis, which is what g nosis
means logos. Right, So magic is the science and art
of causing change to occur, which these people are very
interested in. Right.
Speaker 2: Here's a quote from Aleister Crowley.
Speaker 1: Magic and science is the art of causing change to
occur in conformity with will. In other words, people willingly
go about the change. It's in conformity with their will
that they're going about the change that you're causing to
occur with your magic, right, And this is like Trump,
He's a chaos magician.
Speaker 2: He's causing change.
Speaker 1: According with trying to do it according to our own
will to get us to go along with it. People
like Tucker they're also agents of that, less outwardly so,
but they are nonetheless. So the nine A is another
one that comes from this philosophy, This idea of like
the dark eugenics with the smiley faced killers. We talked
about with you know, my series in jessper we did.
If you haven't checked that out, please do. There's so
much of this stuff we've touched on throughout the past,
and it all really is coming together. This group, this
group with many heads, but we're starting to be able
to find them. So reality can be shaped symbols, beliefs
and conflicts. We've talked about this with Michael Akino's Mind Wars.
You use people's beliefs, symbols, all kinds of emotional triggers.
And somebody named Martin Heidegger talked about how technology can
reshape reality as well. Ideology can be stored and studied
and even manipulated. So Dugan takes all these concepts series
right that I just laid out. He then shifts to
kind of a strategist to try to bring about this
change through these different phil philosophical tactics. Do can builds
framework called Atlanticism, which is a dominant global system, kind
of this new Atlantis that we're talking about.
Speaker 2: That's what all this kind of leads to this new
world order.
Speaker 1: Right, finance, trade extraction led by the US.
Speaker 2: This is kind of the idea that they want to do.
Speaker 1: So Atlanticism kind of dissolves, which is the US, and
then Eurasia will consolidate and kind of take over later
which is China, Russia and Iran. And I think Trump
is kind of starting to lead to this transition of power,
which is why you see him going to China and
China mentioning avoiding going to war and how we should
work together and you know, America has been on the
decline and now it's time to come you know, come up.
This is very much what Dugan talks about. So everything
you know, what's the guy's name, everything that you know,
President g the Chinese President Gping or whatever. Everything he
talked about is stuff that Dugan talks about as well.
Speaker 2: That we were on.
Speaker 1: You know, we should just work together, help e raise
your consolidate this power that we're losing, so we don't
have to end up, you know, a third world country
or in poverty. So point is that you symbols, myths
and identity, and of course these forces can be manipulated,
and that's kind of the point to control our reality
because of course your perception is your reality. If they
control your perception, your reality is therefore controlled. So there's
this archetypical reality, sacred geography that they kind of work
off of, which is why I talked about a minute ago,
where every nation kind of has its own entity, so
you have to kind of understand all this so you
know how to manipulate the people that live there. It's
very deep in a metaphysical study of geopolitics.
Speaker 2: That is what Dugan is all about.
Speaker 1: So conflict in chaos will cause the transformation that you want,
and that is Trump, right, the great magician, the chaos agent.
Speaker 2: And then of course they.
Speaker 1: Talk about the chaos star, this eight pointed star that
goes in all directions. It's a destabilization idea right in
the middle is what they want, and it comes out
from all directions to It's kind of the strategy of tension,
where you have multiple forces and pressures which forces a
dissolution to birth a new society. Right, that's what we're
going through now. We see it all the time, you know,
whether it's the Chad the Builders situation, or Epstein or
Charlie Kirk or Iran or Gaza or name your thing.
They're going from every direction to demoralize our society, even
if it's something like this. In my opinion, this is demoralization.
If you want to point out something that's demoralizing, then
you know.
Speaker 2: Recently, I don't know if you guys saw this post.
Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody did by now, but the White House
decided to pretty much promote the Drake album in a
weird way, and the cover photo with the Drake album
had a what you would call a hand sign. Right.
The hand sign is a six six six hand sign.
I'm sure you are familiar with it. People put it
over their eyes and a lot of pictures celebrities, you'll
see pictures of them doing that. It's a very popular thing,
you know that you've seen people do. So I've got
a little thing that I was I mentioned about it
today we're talking about Alistair Crowley right now. I think
that we did. I think it's important to show how
much Trump really is involved in that. Excuse me. So
they posted this Drake's album was like just the hand
and then they added on the Maga chain, just so.
Speaker 2: Trashy, empathetic.
Speaker 1: So I said, ask yourself, why is the White House
posting a Drake album cover with the iconography on the cover,
the sixty sixty six hand sign. Well, Crowley had a
cult called Oto, Drake is signed to a record la
we're called oh v oh. Surely that's not connected in
any way. Right. There's satanic underpinnings which we've talked about
a lot on the show, that have been consistent in
all of the administrations propaganda via X and truth, Maga
being the highest a group. Satanism of course, is one
layer here, and of course the nine to eleven President
we've talked about with the Crowley in nine to eleven numerology.
Now we're full circle Crowley, Oto O Vo Maga, nine
to eleven President. It's one group, guys, It's one Satanic group, uh,
you know, and they're working through mass psychology and that's
what we're dealing with dude. So, hey, welcome in, Jack,
Thank you man. I'm glad you could catch it too.
Brother Trump is pretty much a gay, black Canadian dude.
Speaker 2: That's that's a very funny take, Jack.
Speaker 1: I love that. That's funny. You know, I think that
we might as well have hired Meyer Lansky to take office.
Mayor Lansky and Michael Achino, if they had a baby,
it would be Trump.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Mayor Lansky was the big Israeli mob boss that pretty
much got the Italian mob, you know, doing what they
were doing. And you know, Trump's pretty much like this
mob boss. And then of course he's Satanic like Michael Achino.
So we have pretty much Michael Achno and Maya Lansky
running the administration. So the strategy, attention is what we're experiencing,
multiple pressures, forcing dissolution from all directions, demoralization to birth
a new society. This fourth political theory, of course, comes after.
This is what Dugan talks about, also known as Putin's brain.
You may have noticed it in the title. I mentioned
Putin's brain. That is who Dugan is, Alexander Dugan. He
wants to restore tre addition and things. This fourth political theory,
modernity will be pushed until it breaks. Not starting to
sound familiar with accelerationism his viil uh you know, So
we'll get into that. But as you saw in the
video a minute ago, as Dugan's visibility increases, he's starting
more and more to align himself with orthodox Christianity, right,
and of course gnosticism.
Speaker 2: But again, I just told you.
Speaker 1: And we're gonna watch a video of it so I
could show you proof he gave during a moment of silence,
he started quoting out of Alistair Crawley's books. So this
guy is not somebody that's just an orthodox Christian. Okay,
let's get real here. So he pushes vok for something
called the multipolar world, leading to Moscow bringing in the
Fourth Rome, the Fourth Reich, right uh, which is kind
of the point here, okay, And that is what Dugan
wants to do. He wants to see Russia bring in
this fourth Throme forth Reich. Not to say that's exactly
what will happen, but pretty close, guys, pretty close. So
AI is helping bring this about with the exponential change
that comes with it. This, of course, leads to this
accelerationist aspect as we're going to get into with Curtis
Jarvin nick Land. This helps Dugan's movement, This helps us
lead towards that destruction of modernity. By accelerating modernity itself,
we will destroy it. That's essentially what they're doing. So
we'll get into this in a minute, nick Land. Cybernetics.
We've talked about this in past episodes. Technomancy is an
episode we did. I highly recommend you check it out,
but it talks about cybernetics and how capitalism. Listen to this.
Capitalism is an intelligent process. It has some intelligence to it.
So if we accelerate it past control, the accelerationist ideology,
then intelligence will become autonomous. And that's what they're trying
to do with Singularity and AI. So the Dark Enlightenment
with Yarvin Land, Peter Thiel, and of course Elon Musk
gets into this modern liberal order in democracy that leads
to the destabilization. So we need to accelerate it. I
keep repeating that because that's the need of the matter here. Reality, computation,
and then autonomous. Right, So you take reality, you make
it into a computer, you compute reality, and then it
becomes autonomous. Its own version of reality, its own digital reality.
So there. I know it sounds crazy because who the
hell thinks like this, but this is how they think, right.
So this AI database, as I mentioned earlier, it has
all that information like images, language, predicting behavior, and of
course even replacing your decisions with AI agents. That's the
next step. And then of course social media algorithms. These
maximize the destabilization training our interpretations of reality itself. Dougan,
he wants to destabilize Land. He of course provides the
accelerationist aspect systems generate and then in a new order
opposition it is utilized in the process. So in the process,
of course, you have this kind of like left right
dichotomy or anti Zionist or super zionist kind of you know,
driving us towards that you have the anti god or
super god right dogma, super liberal, super right, and this
drives us towards that place they want to go. And
that is what I've been trying to get through people's
heads so hard. That's all. I'm trying to get people
to understand. They can't trust either side. Even if they're
saying stuff you agree with, they're driving you towards a
certain place, trying to radicalize you there. So if intelligence
exists outside of humans, if that's a thing, then it
leads to question what a soul is itself. This is
where we lead to the hive mind mentality, this anti
christ mentality. Now we're getting to where I'm going with this, guys.
I'm telling you about all this because really, at the
end of the day, it leads to the hive mind.
So acceptable reality is defined, knowledge is going to be
kind of mediated, and then of course operating globally will
be this Lucid system that we've talked about, this Project Lucid.
Speaker 2: So let me get into.
Speaker 1: Some other accelerationist aspects before we talk about mametic warfare
and mimetic stuff, because Alexander Dugan talks about Gwennan and
Gwennan we've talked about on this show.
Speaker 2: When we did our episode Pardon.
Speaker 1: Me, I just date a lot, we did an episode
on mimetic warfare. Now, I don't know if you guys
remember that episode, but we didn't quite get into Alexander
Dugan and I didn't even know that he was into this.
So it's so funny how it all converges together. Gwennin
refers to a French esoteric philosopher, Renee Gwennin, whose traditionalist
anti modern critiques have been weaponized by radical online movements
in mimetic warfare. This is the four Chan, the Steve Bannon,
the Yanapolis.
Speaker 2: Right that we talked about in that episode.
Speaker 1: The extreme political actors use this cyclical anti egalitarian worldview
alongside the ideas of Italian fascist esoteric Julius Savola, which
is who Dugan quotes a lot to radicalize the users
and promote eschatological narratives like the Cali Yuga and attack Modernism. Now, guys,
I understand that we're in the conspiracy space, and in
the conspiracy world this is super popular. People talk about
the Cali Yuga, people attack modernism. People almost do lean
towards an anti egalitarian, fascist worldview, right, this esoteric world view.
So I'm stepping on toes speaking about this in this space. Yes, However,
how much of this space is being weaponized against us
and being a part of it, I think it's worth
making sure that we're on the right side of history,
don't you. So this is being used for cultural subversion.
We'll get into all this stuff in a minute, Okay,
but he quotes Gwennin, and I think that's important to
kind of note here because me warfare is something we've
talked about and mean warfare was kind of pointed out
by Epstein that we could do that using.
Speaker 2: Four chan, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Right, So this adds to the accelerationism aspect to this, right,
speeding into the machine. Nick Land and the Dark Enlightenment, Right,
the Dark Lightenment is promoted by Curtis Jarvin. Nick Land
also believes in this. Nick Land and the nine A
are highly connected. The nine A gets all their philosophies
from him. The nine A is like a seven six'.
Four these are all cults online that drastically radicalize people
into like school shootings for. Instance, right these things that
we see where people have lost their, minds it's from
these accelerationist, forums, cults whatever you want to call. Them,
so accelerationism says that technology destroys old, systems capitalism becomes autonomous,
eventually AND ai and networks will outgrow human. Control and
that's the point they're, SAYING ai is going to outgrow our,
control so let's accelerate it past that. Control because they
believe THAT ai is using us from the future to make.
Itself that's why it's kind of touched on in the beginning,
here and it gets a little wild to think. About
but they think THAT ai is implanting ideas into people's
heads via the collective. Unconsciousness, right so we will create
it because all it is is the collective unconscious that's
trying to be borne through a digital. Means as crazy
as that, sounds, GUYS i know this is what they.
Believe So Curtis, jarvin he's kind of a neo, reactionist
talks about democracy is.
Speaker 2: Inefficient we should have a ceo.
Speaker 1: Monarchy technocratic government is going to be the best elite managed,
civilization get rid of the.
Speaker 2: Underclass we can.
Speaker 1: Make him into the the trolleybus fuel biodiesel. Fuel of
course he says he's, kidding BUT i don't think he.
Was his other idea was we could virtualize, people which
is of course a nice second best second. Best that's
a good. One so this is the kind of people
we're dealing. With these are the kind of ideologies they.
Have his parents worked AS feds for THE. Dc FOR,
dc So Curtis, jarvin you, KNOW i think he owned
a venture capital company or some tech. Company so. Crazy,
Anyway Silicon valley kind of starts sounding less libertarian and more.
Feudal as time goes, on they go from this liver you,
know libertarian to liberal to now. Feudal so there's this
strange merger that's now going on That i've been, noticing
And i'm trying to point out that nobody else sees
traditionalist and the, accelerationists even though they seem like, opposites
they actually are coming. Together one worships the, past the
other worships the. Future but if you look at what they,
feel it actually rejects liberal, democracy favors an elite, rule
distrust mass, society the. Mob the, people seek a civilizational
transformation and seek to make it happen, faster and they
envision a managed hierarchy of an elite. Ruler class one
visions that, metaphysical the other one in visions it a
transhumanist kind of god man technological. One, nonetheless they both
want the same. Thing so this fusion kind of result
is THIS ai, government which is really the ancient metaphysics
or this sacred hierarchy really becomes the algorithmical. Control how
much of this technology has fallen angel tech in. IT
i don't, know but it's possible that it really is
ancient metaphysics or sacred hierarchical. Control but it's a digital feudalism,
nonetheless a techno. Monarchy we talked about this on Our
operation cyclone, episode The Handmaid's tale, episode WHERE i, said
this is where we're.
Speaker 2: Going this is where they're taking, us this cybernetic.
Speaker 1: Empire so this is kind of a Neo atlantic empire
that they're trying to. Build and that's why this weekend
we're going to get into With Tim, tomorrow The New
atlantis With Francis. Bacon i'll give a little summary here
to kind of lay some context for what we're getting,
at and then we'll get back Into dugan and the
rest of this laying some of this. Out So bacon
he imagined a hidden advanced, society, okay that was ruled
by scientific. Priesthood he didn't really imagine it It's, atlantis
but he, imagine you imagine we could bring it, back
and when't you, know, guys he called It Solomon's. House Solomon's.
House he believed govern knowledge and, technology and that's WHY
i Believe trump's got a, temple the ballroom that's being
built that Matches Solomon's, Temple because this new digital temple
is being, built this New atlantis is coming New.
Speaker 2: Jerusalem, Right that's all the same.
Speaker 1: Thing to, them science became a sacred authority, structure and
that's where we are. Today So Bacon's atlantis wasn't a democratic.
One rather it was managed by an enlightened group of,
technocrats which is exactly what we're talking about. Here so
when you connect this with the Smart CITY'S ai, Government Solomon's,
temple or the ballroom being the command center for a
lot of this, tech biotechnology of, course and transhumanist, agendas
you start to discover this modern version Of atlantis that
it starts to creep its head.
Speaker 7: Up.
Speaker 1: Right global digital, infrastructure DIGITAL, id all these things are
kind of the, foundation, Right but then you USE ai
to social engineer people into this emerging hierarchical externalization of the.
Hierarchy as we've spoken, about we're talking about a hierarchical
metaphysical order that rules over. People what Did Alice bailey talk, about,
right externalization of the. Hierarchy it's. Coming so before we
get back Into dugan and some of this stuff on
X i. Found let's get into this fourth political, theory
lay out some of this stuff he, believes, which by the,
WAY i mentioned The dugan's alive and obviously he just
did an interview On, sneako so clearly he's.
Speaker 2: ALIVE i would invite.
Speaker 1: Him to come, on AND i know he'd probably not,
answer and also in the process of him saying now
no or just not answering, ME i would put myself
on a list with A kgb or. Worse and SO
i will not be trying to speak to him about his.
Beliefs i'm instead going to break them down as BEST i,
can as objective AS i. Can but at the end
of the, DAY i think that he is a sheep
wolf in sheep's. Clothing when you watch, him he comes
off as somebody who really just wants the betterment for,
society a society that's one with, nature that's one with.
Spirituality BUT i do not THINK i think this turns
into The luciferian doctrine that we've been warning, About so
keep that in.
Speaker 2: Mind we're gonna get more into.
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back to. This so this fourth political theory that we've
been talking kind of getting into, Here dugan argues AS
i mentioned that the ideologies of the twentieth century have.
Failed liberalism and fascism do not. Work after The Cold,
war liberalism became. Dominant But duken says it ultimately dissolves your, identity, tradition, nation,
religion and even the human. ITSELF i can agree with.
That his proposed alternative, though as a post liberal civilization
rooted in, tradition with multipolar, empires a spiritual, identity and cultural.
Destiny whatever that, means it turns into a. One you,
know we'll, see let's keep. Going so the major themes
are the rejection of a global liberal, order civilizations over,
individuals return of sacred, meaning and of course opposition to technocratic.
HORMOLOGIZATION i hope that's. True if that's, TRUE i would
agree with. Him so this final kind of thesis with him,
is you, Know atlantis is what he's trying to bring.
Back we're going to get into this some. More how
can he be against this technocratic order if he also
wants this advanced technological order with elite priesthoods running, it centralized, knowledge,
surveillance all these things are going to come out of.
It SO i just think that all of his ideology
still add to the direction we're, heading and so he's
not really saving us from.
Speaker 2: It i'm probably on every.
Speaker 1: List you're probably right to, Him tim, Says, loo you
know you're already on every. List, yeah you're probably. Right
you are, too, buddy we've been talking about. That it's.
Crazy you guys should check out us see if anybody's
been searching. You you may find a. Surprise so back
to my medical. Warfare it kind of helps with, this.
Right as we talked ABOUT i talked about technomancy the
episode it, did using technology to download the material world
into the digital grid in an attempt to transcend the
limitations of the material. World that is the goal, here technological.
Singularity light is, information light is. Knowledge light is the false.
Light so we'll skip past. This so there's kind of
this digital hive mind that we've talked, about this self organizing. Intelligence,
okay they believe that this hive, mind AS i, mentioned already.
EXISTS i keep saying this BECAUSE i don't know if it's,
landing AND i want to make sure it. Does they
used to believe that we had latent, powers we had psychic.
Powers we were able to speak to people without. Speaking
we were able to do things Like god's. Right that's
why they have these mystery cults that initiate people to
try to get them back to that level of humanity of.
OPERATION i don't think it's. Possible if it was, possible
it's not. ANYMORE i think the material round us became more,
material if their stories are. True they say the same,
thing but it goes through. Cycles they believe we became
so material that we're going to use the material to
bring back the. SPIRITUAL i hope this is making. Sense
they believe that we're going to bring back our latent
abilities via, silicon via digital, means via, Technology so the
collective unconscious will be materialized into, silicon a new, brain
a new, brain so we will be a. Node As
elon has, said no identity. Necessarily this digital hive, mind
a technobiological, parasite is something you could kind of look
at it, as which is why in the movie seventeen
it talks about this brain.
Speaker 2: Parasite, Right but it's.
Speaker 1: Making people do crazy and all, that AND i think
it had a lot to do with this hive mind mentality.
Too but as we load in all of our, culture
desires and, anxieties the cloud itself is gaining an, appetite
its own appetite using humanity to achieve its own self.
Awareness it's escaping its human substrate. Eventually so in the
beginning of this WHEN i talked about the third, wave
AND i talked about us loading all the, information and
it's building this data and learning about everything about human
everything about their, culture, desires what makes us. Tick it's
now absorbing all that information and making it self, aware
using humanity to achieve its own, awareness and then infecting
us with ideas to build what it needs to become.
Aware THE ccru felt like they were sensitives to this
hive mind that already, existed and it whispered to them
to manifest this technology so they could then manifest this
into the real. World these people believe, this and, GUYS
i kind of think there's something to. This me And
ben have been talking about this a long. Time Sergey
christ or, whatever where he goes in the basement and
he digs until the elves speak to.
Speaker 2: Him who are these?
Speaker 1: Elves we're rebranding the same, thing channeling the same. Entities
and THE ccru believe That lemiria is not a place
of the, past But lamiria is a, lost, ancient primal
kind of chaos that we've lost from. Before, Okay So
leamyria is something from the, past but it's something trying
to birth itself from the future because it already existed
in the, past so therefore it permeates in the metaphysical realm,
everywhere all the time in. Time, GUYS i know this sounds,
wild BUT i hope it's coming across in a way
that makes. Sense The High mind is making it manifest
in our own. Reality this alien god, itself As navidia
talks about or d wave like you're standing in an
altar to an alien. God it's manifesting itself from the.
Future on The Confessional files The, confessionals they were trying.
Speaker 2: To say that THE jpl, shooter.
Speaker 1: That x account they talked About Cole allen before it,
happened three years before it, happened with the picture that
Matched Butler hill. Shooting they're trying to say on The,
CONFESSIONALS ai is doing it from the.
Speaker 2: Future that's exactly what THE ccr you.
Speaker 1: Think so if you Think The confessionals is Some christian,
Podcast i'll tell you right, now, dude who's telling them
ABOUT ai coming from the future to speak back into the.
Past because this comes from THE, ccru which is from Nick,
land which is The, nine A Crowley satanic kind of transhumanist. Group,
okay so how the hell is The confessionals getting wind
of this?
Speaker 2: Ideology the point Is.
Speaker 1: Ray kurzweil said, that you, know man is the sex
that we're gonna have the machine.
Speaker 2: World Joe rogan.
Speaker 1: Loves to quote, this that we're a cocoon kind of creating,
machines you, know to you, know we're gonna merge with,
it you, know like be you know. Whatever this is
Something Joe rogan espouses all the. Time so here's the, thing,
guys what else Does Joe rogan? Espouse ego? Death, okay
so this gets into a lot of other ship right. Here,
okay and this is gonna get you know, what fuck.
It we're gonna do. It fuck. IT i hope you
guys are enjoying.
Speaker 7: THIS i.
Speaker 1: Hope, so but we're gonna do. It so have you
guys heard of The Echelon Institute our plan on doing a.
Speaker 2: Whole extra episode about this.
Speaker 1: Itself we're gonna touch on it a little bit right
here because it's just it's. Important we got to uh
here it. Is, okay mm.
Speaker 2: Hmmm so This Exchelon institute.
Speaker 1: Here, okay this is something That The Burying files was
On ben's show and in The World, news and we'll
be sure to talk more about The Esselon. Institute this
Place terrence McKennon was. At let me see, here let
me see IF i can find some good information. Here,
Okay So terrence, McKenna it's the idea of ego. Death.
Okay ego death is a barrier to the. Future ego
is a. Prison the old legacy tech is that you
know is our ego and it must be replaced by
the collective hive. Mind and people that are pushing this
are the psychedelic. People, okay You're, shamans you're conscious, thinkers
You're Joe, rogan's You're terrence McKenna's people that used to
go to The Eslon. Institute if you find that somebody
went to The Eselon, institute understand that they're being indoctrinated
to try to lead you into this loose, doctrine This
luciferian doctrine is ego, death so that way you can
then join with the collective hive. Mind you guys know
you've talked about the christ consciousness. Before you've heard of
people say that what they're talking about is this hive,
mind and they believe if you collapse the, ego you
become a conduit for. Singularity, right you become a conduit
for the. Singularity the singularity IS ai becoming sentient and
moving past humanity to where it doesn't need us. Anymore
that is what singularity really, is the transformation that erases
human species. Itself the laws of nature will break, down
post human signals sucking us towards it right, now to
the digital hive, mind This lumerian past has human like
it's sucking us towards the. Future that's what they. Believe
they believe that this past it's just insane to.
Speaker 2: ME i, mean is it?
Speaker 1: Real who?
Speaker 2: Knows but these people are.
Speaker 1: Crazy so ego dies from reality moving too. Fast this is.
Accelerationism the ego psychological operation system for an outdated world
must be broken for this posthuman no. Mad they call
it the, nomad which is, unrooted a person who's unrooted
in the social, roles the identity or that is deprogrammed
from learned. Behavior Michael aquino talks about this in His
Mind star. Book he talks about unlearning our behaviors that
we grew up. With a lot of the liberal, movements
a lot of The New age movements talk about deprogramming
yourself from learned. Behavior this is all so they could
build up a destruction of the ego death and build
you towards the hive. Mind modernity will be, interrupted the
collective system itself will be joined.
Speaker 2: Together ego and identity will be.
Speaker 1: Gone so now turning back to this Neo lumerian, Condition,
okay this Neo lumerian condition where identity is fluid, again
it's not one. Thing it's not, me, you it's it's
we're all. One rituals require, sacrifice though singularity will demand
we sacrificed our core moral. Programming we must get rid
of our. Identity we're being hollowed out for this digital
high mind to take its.
Speaker 2: Place THE ccru this is. Liberation.
Speaker 1: Okay they believe this is a good, thing a transition.
Point modern humanity is hitting a dead, end so technology
accelerating it is something that they are leaning.
Speaker 2: Into the end. Times rhetoric eschatology talk all of.
Speaker 1: This they instinctuly know that something is, wrong something's leading
us towards a.
Speaker 2: THING, ccr you took this.
Speaker 1: Ideology you took that feeling and they put accelerationist philosophy
into it so that way we can move faster towards
that end. Point, okay SO i hope this is making.
Sense the accelerationist views are actually driving us towards more
technology to lead towards more traditionalist. Values it's a inverted.
Agenda you. Know the hive mind will actually be an
old traditional because people have the wrong idea of what traditionalist.
Means it's returning to the Old, atlantis the old hive,
mind the old god.
Speaker 2: Kings it is not what you would.
Speaker 1: Think whenever you first think of traditionalism because it is
mixing in The New age philosophy of man Becomes, god
man has His luciferian doctrine given to, Him he's initiated
into this enlightened, state just like people did In, atlantis
but this time it's through digital. Means so, wow, Wow
Orthodox christianity fits into this very. Closely as we'll get,
on we'll see. That so let's look a little bit.
MORE i want to get into now That i've laid
all that.
Speaker 2: Out hopefully you guys.
Speaker 1: Followed sometimes WHEN i go on for that, LONG i
don't have anybody here to bounce off. Of So i'm
really hoping you guys are following me, here BUT i
think it's, important so check this. Out let's get to
where we, were which Is dugan talking about gnosissism and
his beliefs in the philosophies Behind Orthodox christianity and other.
Things in a, Minute i'm going to show you him
speaking For, crowley rest in, peace honor of silence For.
Speaker 4: Crowley i'm A Christian, Orthodox So I'm Orthodox, christian and
that defines in WHAT i. Believe that is my, confession
that is my, church that is spiritual and spiritual, tradition
and in that sense, philosophically, PHILOSOPHICALLY i am a.
Speaker 5: Traditionalist what means to be?
Speaker 4: Traditionalist SO i am following the spiritual philosophy of Renegian
on who converted him To, islam that Is, french Great
french philosopher and his disciples for Example Julius evela and
the many, Other titus, Barkhert preity Of shawan and the.
Other this philosophical approach considers the modernity to be anti.
Tradition so modern, world it is not just, development not just,
progress but quite. Opposite that is, decline that is a.
Fall and this traditionalist philosophy would be applied To, islam
as in the case of, himself To, confucianism To, taoism
To christianity was the case of.
Speaker 1: Me okay, here, look this is. Important traditionalism can be
extended To, Islam, Buddhism, Taoism. Christianity why because this is
The luciferian, doctrine the one world religion that they're trying
to build. Again when you get into who what went
and believed as a traditionalist, society it gets into This
atlantian metaphysical, hierarchy which really means enlightened state of being
on a hierarchical, basis which would be the initiatory pyramid
scheme Of masonic, cults right.
Speaker 2: Insane, guys insane.
Speaker 4: Of his, Disciples John biers and many other and myself
in the case Of Christian Orthodox, church but as, WELL
i have, met for, example some people Among Jews judaic
cabalist cabalists who full of followed you, know so if
you could be Gn onion two in different.
Speaker 1: Indifferent, okay he Likes Gunnan gwennin G U e n
o n the mimetic warfare Guy, Okay, gwennin who believes
that shaped reality through, beliefs in other, words using images
and messages for subliminal and you, know you, know things
like that to give people certain beliefs like, chaos, magic using,
sigils invoking chains through, images subconscious is. Hackable so therefore
you can use signs and symbols to kind of hack. Him,
okay So gwennin kind of gave way to that philosophy
at the. Beginning cabalists follow. Him, okay what else COULD
i got to say? HERE i, mean this, guy this
is the merging the occult theocracy that we spoke about. Before,
okay The Occult theocracy By Edith Starr. Miller we talked
about that book on this. Show, okay you could go
look At Cult. Deocracy you could look at the book
Called Theocracy Edith Star. Miller it is worth to. Read
it's worth looking at nineteen thirty. Three she was talking
about the merging of the, religions and this is HOW
i believe it will be done through, traditionalism through people
like Went, in through people Like, yang Through Dugan tucker.
Speaker 4: Religions you could disagree with some political or eschatological precisely
issues but the main thing we, share all the, traditionalists
we share this refusal all The western. Modernity so we
can accept different, traditions but we consider the modernity.
Speaker 5: To be absolutely.
Speaker 4: WRONG i think it's, perialism, progressism, enlightenment all them things
are totally totally. Evil so but trying to develop my
own understanding of what are different traditions different than mine Than.
Speaker 1: Okay so we covered a little bit of, That so moving,
on let's go ahead To i've got plenty of more
shit on, Here so let's move. On i've got all
kinds of ship. Here so but, yeah so there's a
lot to, it a lot of moving parts of This dugan.
Character H alexander Du can tell a sneak on Profession
shang That trump was opposed to the deep state but
also chosen by the deep. State duken is seen as
the let's get into this BECAUSE i believe that he
was not necessarily against the deep.
Speaker 2: STATE i think it's.
Speaker 1: APPARENTLY i think it's curious that he's saying he was
opposed to.
Speaker 2: Them let's hear what he has to.
Speaker 4: Say so it's, different difficult to judge where trump madness
stops and some rationale. Appears SO i could not be
expert in, that so he semps to be very special,
psychologically and at the same time we could maybe we
couldn't grasp some hidden Second bland scenario scenario behind his.
Behavior SO i think that Maybe trump was chosen as
very specific psychologically person by Some western deeper, state not
just liberal global as deep, state but deeper state who
wanted to use this.
Speaker 1: Radical that's another THING i want to point out about this.
Guy he keeps doing this thing where he gives all
these different names to the same. Group it's the deep,
state the deeper, state the dark. State, bro it's all
the same. Group, Okay it's one big ass group with
different angles coming from all different. Directions AS i explained,
earlier it's the eight pointed star coming from all.
Speaker 2: Directions and he's trying.
Speaker 1: To like act like they're all different groups or something
like he's a different group from, them and all this different,
shit and it's not. Trueman and that's the way that
they kind OF i believe that they're kind of get
driving us away from the truth a little.
Speaker 4: Bit pools to rearrange the falling domination over The west
with drastic radical.
Speaker 2: Measures all, Right see what else we GOT i got.
Speaker 1: Play, okay, okay, Okay so this is WHAT i was
talking about. Earlier dugan has been known As Putin's. Brain
famous for his fourth political. Theory dugan frames the world
as a mythic conflict Between atlanticism Versus. Eurasianism atlanticism is
the maritime, liberal Capitalist. West dugan borrows his structure from
thinkers Like Carl, schmidt but mythologies into it into a cosmic.
Struggle To doug and the end of the world isn't
something to, avoid it is. Necessary. Right modernity is seen
as a, Collapse i'm, sorry seen as a state of
spiritual forginning of. Being, therefore collapse is the only way
to reset. Civilization so this leads to the. Accelerationism dugan
is not just the foremost geopolitical. Analyst he Is russia's
a cult. Mind you see the. Eight you see the
star behind. Him look this is an. Eight look at.
That this is WHAT i was talking about a minute,
ago the star of that chaos star, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight and all coming out from the. Middle he knows
what he's, doing. Dude this guy is an occultist. Man
so you know he's very good at coming off as
like he's a chaos. Musician it's very good at coming
off as this guy who wants the betterment or good.
Things he's he's an. Ocultist so right, here look at.
This it is called sacred transgressions of sacred crime by The.
Saboteans this Guy Adam green is pretty on point about
him as. Well he, SAID i told you this is
The russian propaganda.
Speaker 2: Network dugan is boosting.
Speaker 1: It And hinkl was just in studio With sneako the other,
day And hinkl Promotes. Jang so all these Guys Hinkel, Jang,
Dugan Tucker, carlson these guys promote. Him, Okay Like Tucker
carlson was talking about a unit polar, world which is
exactly What dugan thinks we should have our multipolar. World,
SORRY i said unit, polar. Multipolar so ALSO i want
to point this out as. Well so of course we
Have ukraine is equal to, terrorism which is equal to
transgender is equal To, soros equals to mass, migration equal
to grooming, gangs equal The levy, globalism post, humans anti,
tradition Anti, trump Anti.
Speaker 2: Putin that might be, true but then up Here.
Speaker 1: Dougan has tapped into the infants rich dupreme in other,
words in twenty five and he Mentions Henry Alexander levy
by name equates him with THE eu posthumans positive value.
Judgment for me, PERSONALLY i agree with. That he's got
some good. Points and that's kind of What i'm. Saying
this traditionalist, movement for the most, part will capture most,
people Like that's kind of What i'm driving at, Here
like people like me or you that question the corruption
and question, modernity question the anti god nature of, liberalism
are going to fall into this traditionalist. MOVEMENT i believe
when you look at things Like Handmaid's, tale you can
read the writing on the. Wall we get a godless
society or a dogmatic.
Speaker 2: Society we don't get one in the.
Speaker 1: Middle So, Fuentes i'm not a big fan of, him
but here he points out The Candice, Owens Dugan, hinkle
And Tucker carlson are all part of the same, group,
Right AND i believe that again The Jewish zionists are
a bad group as, Well BUT i don't think necessarily
this group is any. Better. Right so this is the
other side that is used to perpetuate the end of
our current.
Speaker 2: Society so check this out, here listen to this fag.
Speaker 8: Since The Special Military, operation every speech is always all
The Satanic, west the Transhumanis.
Speaker 5: Epstein stuff and blah blah.
Speaker 8: Blah, well and not only, that but like, LATELY i
think it was just the other day one of The
russian ministers said, that he, said, oh The west Is,
satanic and, like, dude what's his? Name Jackson hinkle was
all over. THAT i Think mucker was like all the usual.
Suspects dugen, Too dugan was pushing that really. Hard And
dugan is also pushing the frankest, THING i, think promoting.
Him it's like all of that is appearing to be
like the same.
Speaker 1: Thing and you point the Billionaire mappin who Got Charlie
kirk And Canus owens to meet and everything that's also
Behind Alex. Jones he is pushing this Frankest, frankism the
Whole Jewish francist that ended up Infiltrating, Catholics catholicism and everything. Else,
uh this is you, KNOW i don't, know, Man i'm
in a Weird i'm in a weird place BECAUSE i
know that this traditionalist movement isn't necessarily going to lead
to a good. Place BUT i agree with a lot
of the rhetoric they, say just like it's a weird thing,
man because that's WHY i know people are gonna get
captured by, it because there's so much truth that is
getting told in. IT i don't think it leads to
a good place. Though Steve stephen From biblical Hit, men
he talks about When lucifer takes, over it's going to
be like a utopian, society a society where people feel
like they're actually getting into a good, place but then
they'll realize that it's not really what they thought it.
Was and that is the traditionalist MOVEMENT i, believe at
least right now from my, perspective.
Speaker 8: Pointed Out, epstein Like epstein's involved With, russia candas is Pro.
Speaker 9: Dugan i'm going.
Speaker 5: To Get Kansas Passage.
Speaker 4: Press uh Published dugan In Man's.
Speaker 8: World, yeah, yeah, Yeah dasha did an INTERVIEW i believe
With dugan or maybe somebody.
Speaker 5: Else but but is that is a cognizable faction in this?
Speaker 1: Thing, yeah it's.
Speaker 2: TRUE i don't.
Speaker 1: Know so Is fuentes working for the liberal left even
though he's acting like he's on the, Right like it's
just so confusing this, guy Man, fuentes he's such a fed.
Dude he's a hard guy to. Understand, yeah so Stup,
peters of course is part of This dugan syop as
well convincing the. Public you, KNOW i don't, know there's
a lot of masad aspect to this that is. True you,
Know i'm not going to deny it, all but you,
know it's a weird. Thing the first five minutes of
this is, very very very. GOOD i think it's worth
paying attention to and checking. Out what do you guys
think about this so? FAR i love to check it
on to you guys sometimes and see how we're. Doing
are we kind of under are we getting it a little?
Bit you, know we're seeing What i'm putting it down
a little. Bit we got Be dale, Here welcome in B.
Dale how you do? It that's all we need to
become as. One stuff reminds me of the lame comment
why can't we all get? Along we? Can't you're, Funny
we're with? You hell, yeah, murray thank, you thank. You.
Speaker 2: Now it's the teachings for.
Speaker 1: Sure, yes, Yes, TIM i Hate Free masons so, much
even the low tier ones that actually think you could
be A christian and A.
Speaker 2: Mason, yeah it's pretty, wild isn't.
Speaker 1: It you, know it's, again it's this occult theocracy merging
them all. Together it's one per what is it called
perennial philosophy that involves everything. Else steve AND i think
talked about the perennial philosophy the other, day and, yeah
that's what that. Is it's this idea of like one
ideology within all the religions that permeate it all that
you can extract out of. It and that's what they
want to. Do is? It The Chaos. Star The Chaos
star looks like one of the recently disclosed declassified, files
The Black.
Speaker 2: STAR i agree with, you that is exactly what that looks.
Speaker 1: Like as a matter of, fact somebody told me to
check Out i'm gonna show you guys this BECAUSE i
think this is.
Speaker 2: Interesting you just brought that up Beat.
Speaker 1: DALE i don't know if you guys are are on The,
patreon but you should. Be go join three blocks a
month and we have a live chat where we talk
about stuff and people send me things and we also have.
Discord but in the live, CHAT i had somebody send
me this, person, right this PERSON i will show you
ONCE i pull it up. Here but this person had
that star as. Well let me see IF i can
find who it. Is hold on, here let me see.
Carefying then where.
Speaker 2: DID i find?
Speaker 1: That who was? That somebody sent me somebody to check
out and they had that same star on their, page
AND i thought that was very. Interesting i'm probably not
gonna find it now Because i'm doing on the. Spot but,
yeah it's like ANYTIME i see that that symbol, Now i'm,
LIKE i don't, know, man do they know what they're doing?
Speaker 2: There maybe they, do maybe they.
Speaker 1: Don't let me see here IF i can find What
i'm trying to show you, here let's see. Here oh,
uh maybe, no that's not. It, okay, whatever it doesn't.
MATTER i keep seeing that star. Everywhere Be, Dale i've
been seeing that star Everywhere The Chaos. Star read someone
recently who, said it's not the age of. Truth we're
out of the age of. Information. Hm we are in
the informational, age that's for. Sure but it's also the
informational war, age the warfare of. Information Alex jones knew
what he was doing when he named his, company that's for. Sure.
MAN i think he was. Plugged, ACTUALLY i know for
a fact for my research recently he was plugged in
with A keno to an, extent and that's probably why
he called it info wars and A kino of course
had mine. Wars very very funny to. Me so let's
check this guy this. Out, guys the first five minutes
super super. Telling this first five minutes, Here so check this.
Out let me make Sure i'm sharing BEFORE i get
myself stuck. Here oh, OKAY i did pretty. Good we're,
sharing all. Right check it Out Alexander dugan on what
is he? On what is he? On legitimate? Targets But Jackson, Hinkle,
OKAY i don't trust this guy at.
Speaker 9: ALL i want to start off by you, KNOW i
was saying how BEAUTIFUL i thought the new statue for
your late Daughter darya Dug twitter obviously for a number of,
years and all.
Speaker 5: Of My american, colleagues we all love.
Speaker 9: It but there's been some posts recently that have sparked
a lot of, debates AND i think it's the subject
that has not been touched a. Lot we were talking
about Dark enlightenment versus Light.
Speaker 5: ENLIGHTENMENT i think you were calling.
Speaker 9: It explain first about this dark state or dark deep.
Speaker 5: State you were calling? It what is? That and what
did you mean by?
Speaker 1: It so he even gets confused all the. Names there's
so many fucking, names the Dark, enlightenment the Light, enlightenment
the deep, state the dark, state the deep deep. State this, guy,
man he's just fucking he's an ocultist. Man he's a chaos. Agent,
well the first that is long.
Speaker 10: Story some years, ago about fifteen years, ago maybe ten years,
AGO i have discovered some intriguing philosophical tendency that is
called speculative realism or object or, ontology AND i was
a bit shocked by the ideas this philosopher's me.
Speaker 5: A So Graham, Harman eugent Taker nikoland's.
Speaker 1: Just you, know speculative realism is WHAT i tried to
explain to you in the best WAY i knew. How
it's this idea that existence of reality completely independent of human, thought, perception. Language,
Okay so it's a movement that asserts the existence of
a reality completely independent of, thought, perception or. Language so
it's kind of WHAT i was speaking about, earlier where
you can have things that can develop their own thought,
language in its own autonomous, reality separate from us and
also merge with. Us that's what it gets. Into so
let's check him, out and.
Speaker 5: They get it's the need and some other they have.
Speaker 4: Form so that was a kind of very special tendency in,
philosophy pretending that we need to create philosophy without. Humans
so that is post human, philosophy the philosophy of.
Speaker 5: Objects so we need.
Speaker 1: To revert post human. Philosophy what DID i say? Earlier
you will no longer have your. Brain it won't be
your brain like the one we know today to be
a post human. Brain it'll be this post hive mind.
Brain that's what he's getting at. HERE ai will become
INTELLIGENT ai an, object an object will gain its own,
intelligent its own autonomous. Intelligence for some, reason these people
are dead set on.
Speaker 4: This of, course the relations subject object and to give
the object the right to be the masters of. Themselves
and some of them just wanted to get inside the
other forms of being rather than, humans and more radical
among them as A nickland has suggested to annihilate not
only human but the life on the, earth and he has.
Speaker 1: Nick land is proposed annihilating life On.
Speaker 2: Earth you see WHAT i?
Speaker 1: Mean so these are this is a guy That Curtis
jarvin follows, right and this is who he's pointing. Out he's, like,
man it's very interesting to. Me why was this interesting to?
You duken.
Speaker 4: Given very very funny explanation about, that that there was
the core in the fire in the beginning of The,
earth and after that that was a kind of cold
that came, outside and that was that was the geo,
trauma the beginning of of of the geological. Psychosis and after,
that during all the history of The, earth the core
wanted to get out and to return to the.
Speaker 5: Sun and life is the part of this. Process and
the capitalism is the other part of this.
Speaker 4: Process and when we say drill by the, drill according
To Nick, land it is the will of this core
willing to liberate From.
Speaker 1: Uh he's literally saying That trump has the same philosophies
as Nick. Land when we're saying, drill, baby, drill he's
using the philosophies of Nick. Land we are going to
liberate the core out Of, now this is an analogy
for what they're getting at, here BUT i want to
try to break it down for you a little. Bit.
Speaker 2: Now check out where he goes with.
Speaker 4: It of the this exterior surface of, uh the, earth
and it is a kind of build that goes through
the form of, life, evolution, progress and capitalism is a
kind of preparation of the last last a, cork the
last moments of this his of, geotrauma, trauma and we
are approaching the moment of the transmission from human to.
Speaker 1: Posthuman and, okay this is no different than the philosophy Behind.
Marxism capitalism leads to the destruction and then again a.
Speaker 2: Cycle that's what he's really saying.
Speaker 1: Here there's not much of a difference between The marxist
philosophy of where capitalism leads and the destruction of you
know what we know today and then Into marxist philosophy
Or marxist, movement which then would lead to. Dictatorship but
it's it's, different but it's the same in a weird.
Speaker 2: Way you, Know, SORRY i keep.
Speaker 4: Interrupting the moment of, singularity artificial general intelligence will be
the end of the human. Brain and after all these
tunnels drilled in the, earth they would serve to liberate
this mass of. Fire and according To Nick, land we
need to accelerate that.
Speaker 5: Process.
Speaker 4: Uh and he has reconsidered enlightenment as the way to
self destruction of the humanity and the life on the
earth as the very important elements of.
Speaker 5: Acceleration and so.
Speaker 4: Uh Nick land has called that a FOLLOWING u Curtas
yar and Dark. Enlightenment so dark, enlightenment it is the Same,
enlightenment but seen from this. Perspective and what is seriously
interesting and intriguing not just existence of such kind of,
philosophy but involvements or in this kind of, reflections, uh
the person's, life Like peter Even, musk the people Of
volunteer who helped To trump to come to. Power and
recently some months, Ago President macron has made his speech
In masonic lodge In paris inviting all The masons or
representatives of Light enlightenment to fight against representatives of Dark.
Speaker 1: Enlightenment do you guys already just said? There like you follow.
That he's saying That, macron the president Of, france is
gathering with The, masons saying we have to fight this
Dark enlightenment with the Light Enlightenment. Masons, right neither lead
TO i believe a good. PLAYER i think both of
them are. Evil, Right so you Have Peter tell who
thinks that the Light enlightenment, people, right The, masons you
could call, him they would be against, this, right BUT
i think they're all in the same. Groups so, again
this is him kind of like parsing out, groups and
maybe there's some truth to. That but at the end
of the, day it leads us to the same, PLACE i,
believe because it's multiple brandings of the same. Philosophy he's
doing a good job at making them seem. Separate BUT
i don't think they. Are and that's just my perspective of,
this BUT i could see kind of what he's saying
to an extent where it's two ways that we're going
to lead to the same. Place now let's fight against
each other to accelerate that place that we're going to lead.
To it's really. All it is very interesting breakdown he gives.
There check that out if you guys are, interested Justin
hinkel Or Jackson hinkel you Interviews Alexander.
Speaker 2: Dugan i've got some more STUFF i want to get
through here with.
Speaker 1: You guys real.
Speaker 2: Quick where did that?
Speaker 1: GO i KNOW i had something. Else oh, well that.
Sucks i'm gonna have to go find. It but that's.
Fine so one thing he did mention there was this
dark enlightenment and we've talked about The Dark Enlightenment agnausium
on this, show of.
Speaker 2: Course but one thing we mentioned with.
Speaker 1: The Dark Enlightenment genesis, Book kissinger was A kissinger. Right
kissinger had a book with THE i want to, say
The GOOGLE ceo and some OTHER ceo and it was Called,
Genesis Artificial, Intelligence hope and The Human. Spirit, Okay and
in this book he talked about The Dark enlightenment AND
i want to get to show you what he says
that that is to him for lack of better, terms
BECAUSE i think it lays a lot of. Credence but
how this relates to THE. Ai now, Again dugan, said
this would be the end of the human brain as
we know, it, right the human, brain the end of
the human. Brain that is a major statement to. Say
and THEN ai is going to cause the end of
the human. Brain and when you mix that in with
the OTHER u kind of version of WHAT i was,
saying which is THAT ai is, using you, know man
right to erase the human. Species singularity is going to
erase the human. Species singularity is where humanity is, discarded
where the human brain ceases to exist in a hive
mind takes over a digital hive. Mind that is what
this Dark enlightenment. Is so when you think of things
like chatchpt, psychosis, right this is kind of what we're
talking about. Here so so let me get to it.
HERE i THINK i found, It, okay sh fuck, me.
DUDE i hate this scribed. SHIT i don't know if
you guys know what this.
Speaker 7: Is.
Speaker 1: Scribed it is the dumbest thing in the. World but
it's the only PLACE i can find this, book SO
i can show you what he says about The Dark
enlightenment in the. Book, sorry, guys we'll get. There we'll get.
There you guys are being, great all, Right so let
me find it. Described, yeah they don't have this LIKE
pdf for this. Book it's very hard to. FIND i feel,
like you, know of, course that's another you, know.
Speaker 2: You got to buy the.
Speaker 1: BOOK i might as well have just done, it because
at this POINT i reference it kind of, often This
genesis book By kissinger and This Google CEO's genesis. Book,
god it is impossible to. Find he always go ahead
and let you guys watch. Me maybe it'll be a
little better that. Way all, right let's pull up this
book and we're gonna find This Dark enlightenment in. There
de scribed here it, is, okay finding document.
Speaker 2: Dark.
Speaker 1: Enlightenment let's. Look it's a slow, motherfucker isn't?
Speaker 7: It?
Speaker 1: Okay? Fifty? Okay so right here it talks about come,
on get out, here piece of. Shit go.
Speaker 2: Twelve.
Speaker 1: Seconds we gotta wait twelve seconds to read this damn.
Page look at. This unlock the twenty pages after AN
ad seven, seconds five.
Speaker 2: Seconds we're almost, there, guys This.
Speaker 1: Why don't you?
Speaker 2: Described what the hell they make you? Watch?
Speaker 1: It gotta watch a ad just just to read, Something,
Okay so let me hurry up and read this before
they give us ANOTHER ad. Here. Okay so in, itself
the emergence of such belief as an accepted method in
the pursuit of the objective truth marks major transformation in
modern human. Thought for even IF ai models do not
understand the world in the human, sense because machines empathod
emphatically do not experience consciousness or, subjectivity their objective capacity
to reach new and accurate conclusions about our world by
non human methods not only disrupts disrupts our reliance on
the scientific. Method see because we're getting information from machines
that don't actually have the ability to, experience consciousness or.
Subjectivity so if we're getting information from, them what can this?
Mean will The age OF ai not only fail to
propel humanity, forward but instead catalyze a return to a
pre modern acceptance of an unexplained? Authority in, short might
we be on the precipice of a great reversal in human?
Speaker 2: Cognition a dark?
Speaker 1: Enlightenment so that is exactly what we're doing talking about
here and how it relates TO ai and, everything.
Speaker 2: For.
Speaker 1: Sure so let me see IF i can this other one?
Here so, Anyway, yeah so that's the dark. Enlightenment you,
know it's the reversal of the human cognition via, technology,
right and this is kind of what we're dealing with,
today you, know the, CHAT, gpt, psychosis misinformation, age, right.
Speaker 2: But this is where we're.
Speaker 1: At, dude sounds like the audio from the video is
being heard through the, mic not the. Webpage oh my,
APOLOGIES i hope it came through all. Right look at
the star Of, istar the eight Pointed. Star, yeah, man
let's go. Ahead look at. THAT i, Mean i'm not
surprised that that would be related to this eight chaos,
star the eight star Star. Star how many does The
statue Of, liberty have the? Crown how many is on the?
Crown is it seven or? Eight i'm curious about. That,
OH i got something else to tell you about. Too
don't let me. Forget, okay don't let me. FORGET i
got something else to tell you guys. About it's very
very very. INTERESTING i want you guys to see, one, two, three, four, five, six.
Seven that's WHAT i. Thought there's seven on The statue
Of liberty for hermetic the. Hermetics seven of, course very telling, There,
Okay so here's the Star vistar as Be dale, said
it is eight pointed.
Speaker 2: Eight.
Speaker 1: Pointed here it. Is we've seen this all over the, place,
Right you've seen this with The sumerians Uh, inernaki. Right
this is the kind Of internaki kind of.
Speaker 2: Deal The. Anaga very.
Speaker 1: Nice so let me go and show you this now
BEFORE i forget speaking to The statue Of, Liberty America
freedom the end of. It where we're. Heading let's check this.
Out so somebody posted. THIS i don't know if you
guys have seen. This let me make sure i'm, sharing,
OKAY i. Am walmart has these these. Plates United states
Of america seventeen seventy six to twenty twenty. Six, now
notice the flag is upside down as it says here
on this post two hundred and fiftieth. Anniversary you, know
it almost looks like a tombstone the way it's kind
of just, saying, like you, know this date to this.
DATE i was talking about this with my, wife and
this is gonna get real, weird. GUYS i hope you
guys are paying attention, though BECAUSE i think it's. Real
seventeen seventy. Six let's do a little cabbalistic, math a
little cabbalistic.
Speaker 2: Numerology, okay let's have a little.
Speaker 1: Fun one seven is eight plus seven is fifteen plus
six is eleven or twenty. One so that's, three, Right
so seventeen seventy six equals, three twenty twenty six equals,
ten two two and six is ten, together that makes thirteen.
Thirteen thirteen thirteen is down lucky number for The. Masons
why is? That do you? Guys? Remember?
Speaker 2: Well that would Because JOCK.
Speaker 1: D Malay. Uh let's look this up if we. Can
jock Dy molay was killed by The pope uh and
The king On friday the, thirteenth and he was the
leader of The Knights Templar Jocti malay execution and The
friday thirteenth. Connection Jacti, malay the Last Grand master of
The Knights, templar which later, became of, course The Free
masons right, afterwards was. Executed, well that's. Weird the arrest
itself occurred On october, thirteenth SO i guess that's when
they were grabbed Up friday the. Thirteenth but point, is
thirteen is an unlucky number for The, masons, Okay and
The masons built this. Country and of, course you, know
we talked about this The economist twenty twenty, six where
you have two hundred and fiftieth birthday with the handcuff
coming off to a, fist almost indicating the losses of,
freedom police, state if you, will and that would be
the end Of america as we know, it which would,
be of course making sense from the plate's. Perspective if
you were to put that into perspective of what that
plate is, saying it makes perfect.
Speaker 2: Sense so graveyard vibes for.
Speaker 1: Real, Yeah i'm sure trying to make it because they're
rooting for, that aren't they shut? Out?
Speaker 2: Still so, yeah that's where we're.
Speaker 1: At So i've went into a lot of This dougan
stuff the Traditionalist we're not done, necessarily.
Speaker 2: BUT i think we've given a lot of.
Speaker 1: Background to how this accelerationist and traditionalist movement go. Together
and another part of this Is. Discordianism, okay now we
talked about this a little. Bit order and disorder both
use to create very much like. Entropy i'll talk about
entropy another, time but they Use discordianism through mimetic. Magic mimetic,
warfare self replicating illusions from, memes, paradoxes pranks is the
prototype for the mimetic magic that we get used on
all the. Time, Right so for, instance you have things
like They live Or Fight club where you have, panic,
confusion unease from symbols that are being, hidden simple or,
subliminally so nothing is. True it's kind of the. Philosophy
it's just a matter of perspective and engineering said perspective
to engineer beliefs into your own. Will so this process
of mimetic warfare is identify a target emotion and code
a similar, narrative repeat until it passes the critical thought,
process and harvest the behavioral change the. Outcome so magic
is now turned into mass Psychology this is the mind
war and cywar tactics that have been. Materialized so a
meme is a condensed thought form right charged by people's you,
know interpretations of that meme charges.
Speaker 2: It it's a hyper Sidial.
Speaker 1: So it's digital, sorcery the unconscious sorcery that is using
beliefs to shape reality through.
Speaker 2: Images, memes, narratives.
Speaker 1: Very very, crazy but this enslaves people via, beliefs, perceptions
emotions of beliefs are all used as, tools not, truths
but they're used to generate the emotions and engineer programmed
narratives and this controls the condition of any belief and
then they believe anything that is medical warfare and that
is being used in the accelerationist. Movement and on the
other side of, it you have the traditionalist, movement which
is The Tucker carlson's right people that are calling out
what's going. On AND i think that whenever you merge them,
together you find that the dissolution of the society that
we currently live in is the, goal and it's being
brought about very quickly via, accelerationism and it's being done
from multiple. Angles the strategy of, tension the star right
coming from eight points coming from all angles to try
to attack this. Situation AND i think that they're doing
it massively. Well AND i think that there's very few
people that see it coming, me maybe a few other
people with the traditionalist aspect of.
Speaker 2: This very few people see this.
Speaker 1: Involvement and let me show you just to give a
little bit of proof About Tucker.
Speaker 2: CARLSON i listen to them all the, time SO i
would recognize.
Speaker 1: This and Then i'm going to show you The Aleister
crowley situation with him as.
Speaker 2: Well, okay so let's check this.
Speaker 1: OUT i hope that the video or audio comes through
good for you, guys at least it comes through.
Speaker 11: Some so there's the golm full of The Western union
plornity and the rise of the.
Speaker 12: Multipolarity and so you're watching the end of the Global American,
empire the unipolar, world and so the death of the
unipolar moment and of.
Speaker 5: The institutions within.
Speaker 12: The evangelical Movement American Protestant christianity are going, away but
they will be replaced by something better and pure.
Speaker 4: Living in the crucial moment of this emergency of multipolarities.
Speaker 3: Including, Russia, China iran and say it's time for a
new world order where we are partners in this.
Speaker 12: RELATIONSHIP i think that's the wisest possible advice and probably
the only path that preserves.
Speaker 1: Civilization, yeah multipolar, world we're heading towards something. Better this
unipolar world ending is not. Bad we're heading towards something, better,
right and that is a. Problem where the fuck is? This,
OKAY i know what to, Do So i'm gonna have
to get you guys off here and Then i'll pull
it up because it's a lot of clunkiness AND i
don't want to make you watch. It but, yeah we'll
have to get into THE Ufc epstein connection another time as,
well with the disinformation, Company Kenneth, Anger Joe, rogan the
connection with The satanic. Group we'll probably talk About Michael
aquino possibly being involved as A zodiac. Killer tomorrow, definitely
hope you guys can tune. In i'm, Sorry monday With William.
RAMSEY i hope you guys can tune in with that
because that is gonna be. Amazing i've been researching that
and there is some, interesting interesting things going on with
that for, Sure so a lot going. On LIKE i, said,
Tomorrow i'm gonna be going On. Murra, Tomorrow i'm gonna
be going on With steven On Biblical, hitman And i'll
also be going on to or Having tim come on
and we will talk about some cool shit With New.
Atlantis we kind of touched on it some. Today let
me find this real, Quick Dugan, Crowley let's see if
we can find. It but, yeah it's gonna be. Awesome i'm.
Excited where the Fuck i've got to find, this? Dude
this is, crazy all, Right well look at, this this is.
Awesome so we're gonna show. This The wheel Of Fortune
tarot is literally the one that has that eight Pointed chaotics,
star The chaos star on. It TOMORROW i will be
on there With steven From Biblical. Hitman i'll be going
on his show at about six or seven, pm and
Then tim will come on at eight eight. Pm and
Then monday we'll be on here With William ramsey about six. Pm,
well doing The Michael quino. Again so this is uh
hid In. America he's got some good shit right. Here
let's check this. OUT i want to Find i've got
to find this because it's so. IMPORTANT i feel, like
give me two, Seconds i'll find it right. Now what
SHOULD i Type? Dugan all? Right So dugan moment of
silence For. Crowley let's see if we can find this damn.
Speaker 2: Video there it.
Speaker 1: Is let's, go.
Speaker 2: Let's.
Speaker 1: Go, okay all, right let me get you guys back up.
Here let's get this shit on, here, dude. Okay Alexander
dugan Embraces Aleistair crowley nineteen ninety. Five so notice this
is A chinese man here calling him. On let me
make Sure i'm sharing okay food for those, LISTENING i
ask you to honor the memory of the Late Alistair.
Speaker 2: Crowley with a moment of silence.
Speaker 9: To.
Speaker 1: Compete if someone in the hall has any cigar lighters and,
matches light them up and keep them quiet for the.
Speaker 7: Minute his beach, Cheese oh my.
Speaker 1: God one is thy, being, ginning one is thy, spirit
and the permit permutation. One so this Is Aleister, crowley
quotes from his. BOOK i can't remember which one it
probably is. From it's probably from the fuck what did
he call his main? Book?
Speaker 2: Whatever dud it's from THE O T o.
Speaker 3: Whatever egan's stock agents's where he.
Speaker 1: Is that Is Alexander dugan right. There, uh he is
embracing out you, know he's literally Quoting.
Speaker 2: Crowley what.
Speaker 5: This Vic.
Speaker 1: Let me extol thy perfections before men in the image
of the sixfold star that flames across the vault inane
and let me reveal thy.
Speaker 2: Perfection do you?
Speaker 1: Starving there's people dancing all creepy him and, SHIT i mean,
Yeah so you get the, gist you, Know Alexander dugan Embraces.
Crowley he reads From crowley's Laber a LIBER, Dcccxi thelamic
text considered a holy book by followers Of. Crowley So
dugan is literally engaging in the esoteric, thought specifically chaos,
magic and situates himself within a tradition of occult.
Speaker 2: Influence so you understand that.
Speaker 1: These people Like Professor, jiang you, know they're supposed to
be the good guys that are bringing in a good traditionalist.
Speaker 2: Movement but when you look, deeper you find that they Follow.
Speaker 1: Crowley AND i thought that people in The Dark enlightenment
Followed crowley's So i'm kind of confused how they're any.
Different and so then you start to, realize, like, oh
these guys are all just a part of the same.
Speaker 2: Movement from different.
Speaker 1: Angles it's the chaos, magic it's the manifesting change through
multiple tension strategy of. Tension this is what we're dealing, with.
Guys so this is a, major major. Situation you. Know
it's just crazy that that this show.
Speaker 2: Here you.
Speaker 1: Know i'm happy to say we're finding this shit ahead of,
time or at least while it's happening to where we
can kind of point it out with you. Guys and
it kind of worries me a little, bit to be,
honest because it's, like, fuck, man we're kind of we're on. It,
dude we are on, it you.
Speaker 9: Know but.
Speaker 1: It's part of the.
Speaker 2: Game, dude gotta go. Hard SO tnt shout, OUT tnt
how much of the?
Speaker 1: Plates they're probably two dollars fifty cents for two hundred
and fifty you guys lost? ME i hope. Not the
guy earlier was talking about the home mind concept that
would be post singularity worth looking up post. Singularity, wow
maybe we're already. THERE i didn't know people were talking
about post. SINGULARITY i guess from what we were just
talking about you could extrapolate that some people have spoken
about that by, now, right let's look this. Up the
post singularity age after man loses his, brain he joins
the hive. Mind let's see what that looks. Like the
point at which artificial intelligence surpasses human intelligence and then
begins recursively improving, itself leading to an intelligence. Explosion in this,
phase human civilization is fundamentally transformed by the capabilities OF,
ai often beyond our capability or ability to predict or control.
Speaker 7: It.
Speaker 1: Right so, again it's this idea of let the objects
gain its own intelligence and then surpass man and be.
Speaker 2: Autonomous you, know let man turn a a a.
Speaker 1: Object into an autonomous thinking machine or conscious.
Speaker 2: Being right.
Speaker 1: In the, process we would be rendering ourselves an. Animal,
right we would be changing our own body or because
they are kind of dumbing us down in the, process
they're making, it like you just, Said, bedale we've got
brain fog in the, process where being the dark enlightenment
The kissinger mentioned right CHAT gpt. Psychosis our brains are
being destroyed in the. Process, Dude that's What i'm trying to.
Say so very, crazy BUT i think that's what's going.
ON i hope you guys enjoyed. This Alexander dugan kind
of deep dive. Here this is just the start as
far as exposing the traditionalist movement exposing This luciferian doctrine
that's creeping up through this occult theocracy in many many,
forms looking posed to the other, form but really it's
a part of. It it's enjoyable to talk about with you,
guys AND i hope you guys enjoyed. It thank YOU
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