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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, it is the Bill Handle show. Bill just

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<v Speaker 2>started a vacation. He is going to be in Italy

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<v Speaker 2>this week and in and around Verona. And it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>just a coincidence that that's also where they are holding

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<v Speaker 2>the ICFA, the International Convention of Furreys and Admirers. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Neil Savedra is

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<v Speaker 2>off just for today. He will be back tomorrow. Wayne

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<v Speaker 2>Resnick's's filling in until nine o'clock and some of the

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<v Speaker 2>stories we're watching for you at KFI. Just not even

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks after Hurricane Helen made landfaf Florida residents are going.

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<v Speaker 1>To get hit again Hurricane Milton, which.

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<v Speaker 2>At last check was a Category four hurricane.

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<v Speaker 1>Amy King.

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<v Speaker 2>At any point I'm talking about this and I say that,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's been changed.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just bar right in Will to give us

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<v Speaker 1>the latest. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to almost certainly hit the Gulf coast of

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<v Speaker 2>Florida somewhere in the next couple of days. And what

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<v Speaker 2>it'll do after that is anybody's guess at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Supreme Court has opened a new term this week.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a lot of things that they are going

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<v Speaker 2>to hear, and I picked three of them for you,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of big cases that are going to affect a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people, some of them dealing with questions that

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<v Speaker 2>have never been dealt with before at the Supreme Court level.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of them involves and this is really appropriate

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<v Speaker 2>because it's spooky season. And I know it's spooky season

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<v Speaker 2>because everybody keeps telling me it's spooky season. And also

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<v Speaker 2>because there are several businesses, longtime businesses that sadly have

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<v Speaker 2>closed around where I live, and every one of them

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<v Speaker 2>this is not an exaggeration, because I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be funny. There were three kind of big, bigger box

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<v Speaker 2>businesses that went out of business. All three of them

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<v Speaker 2>are right now spirit Halloweens. So and that's how I

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<v Speaker 2>know it's spooky season. And the Supreme Court is going

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<v Speaker 2>to take up the issue of ghost guns. These are

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<v Speaker 2>guns you put together yourself, and therefore you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to do a background check, they don't have to have

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<v Speaker 2>a serial number. You buy the parts, you can buy

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<v Speaker 2>these part kits, and you assemble these guns yourself. And

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<v Speaker 2>the law has been that you don't have to do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

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<v Speaker 2>made a like, it's not really a ruling because they're

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<v Speaker 2>not a court. I guess they made a policy decision

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<v Speaker 2>that ghost guns will be treated like regular.

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<v Speaker 1>Guns, like a live guns that aren't haunting you.

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<v Speaker 2>And therefore that means you will have to pass a

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<v Speaker 2>background check, and you will. You can build your own gun,

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<v Speaker 2>but it'll have to have a serial number on it

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<v Speaker 2>that can be traced. And an appeals court said, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't. They can't do that. The ATF cannot make

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<v Speaker 2>that happen. So now the Supreme Court has been asked

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<v Speaker 2>by the government to weigh in, and I mean, given

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<v Speaker 2>the way they've gone recently, I would not be surprised

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<v Speaker 2>if they rule in favor of keeping ghost guns spooky.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, it is going to boil down

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<v Speaker 2>to something very dry and boring, which is the definition

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<v Speaker 2>of a firearm under federal law, and whether a firearm

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<v Speaker 2>that you have put together yourself is a firearm. It

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<v Speaker 2>kind of seems like it probably is. Then the Court

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<v Speaker 2>is going to hear a case out of Tennessee. Although

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<v Speaker 2>there are over twenty states that have a similar situation

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<v Speaker 2>going on, but this one they're gonna hears out of Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has to do with a law there that

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<v Speaker 2>bans gender transition treatments for minors, so puberty blockers or

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<v Speaker 2>hormone hormone therapy or gender affirming surgery. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how much of that is really going on with miners.

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<v Speaker 2>But the other thing, the medications definitely are used, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of these drugs can be used to treat other

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<v Speaker 2>issues that have nothing to do with the gender identity.

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<v Speaker 2>And so a federal judge said that law is unconstitutional,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the appeals court said, oh, it's very constitutional.

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<v Speaker 2>And now the Supreme Court will ultimately decide if you

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<v Speaker 2>can ban this kind of treatment. There are three transgender

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<v Speaker 2>young people are suing claiming it violates equal Protection clause.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm gonna tell you I think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And first I'm gonna tell you I'm not an attorney

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<v Speaker 2>in I didn't go to law school.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's very important that I tell you that.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, so that you don't think that I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to practice law without a license or anything. But also

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<v Speaker 2>because what I'm about to say is so smart that

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<v Speaker 2>if I didn't warn you, you might be fooled. You

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<v Speaker 2>would be fooled and assume that not only am I

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<v Speaker 2>an attorney, but I'm a brilliant attorney. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>even an attorney. There's a very good argument that this

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<v Speaker 2>law does violate the equal protection clause because it is

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<v Speaker 2>a law that is based on sex classification, which is illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's why. If you were born female and for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the reason, you are given certain hormone treatments.

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<v Speaker 1>Or puberty blockers, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you were born a female and now you're

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<v Speaker 2>being given the same drugs to deal with your gender identity,

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<v Speaker 2>then the law is discriminating against you because of the

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<v Speaker 2>gender you were born relative to what they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do with the medication. Whether or not you can get

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<v Speaker 2>certain treatments is based on what gender you were born,

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<v Speaker 2>and generally speaking, laws that discriminate based on what gender

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<v Speaker 2>you were born are unconstitutional.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pretty strong argument.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean it will prevail, obviously, And the other

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<v Speaker 2>big case they're going to hear is whether these states

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<v Speaker 2>can require you to identify yourself and that you are

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<v Speaker 2>over eighteen in order to look at porn online. They're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna hear the law out of Texas. But there's many

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<v Speaker 2>states that have passed these porn id laws. Notice where

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<v Speaker 2>they are, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Virginia. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia recently passed one, and then also Montana and Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, Okay, protecting children is a very

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<v Speaker 2>valid governmental interest. So the question is not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be do these states have a point? They have a point.

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<v Speaker 2>The question is going to be, is this the least

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<v Speaker 2>restrictive way to protect miners from seeing pornography online? And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because I don't know what other I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know a least a less restrictive way to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that a miner doesn't see porn online other than

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<v Speaker 2>to require that the person who wants to see porn

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<v Speaker 2>online verify that they're not a minor.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see where all of these things go, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>A new investigation by the Civilian Oversight Commission, which oversees

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<v Speaker 2>the LA County Sheriff's Department.

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<v Speaker 1>About a previously unknown.

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<v Speaker 2>Deputy group that a report says it's really more of

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<v Speaker 2>a memo, but it's still information coming out of the

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<v Speaker 2>Civilian Oversight Commission that says this group uses a logo

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<v Speaker 2>that features Nazi like imagery.

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<v Speaker 1>This memo.

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<v Speaker 2>Was written by Sean Kennedy, a longtime member of the

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<v Speaker 2>Civilian Oversight Commission. He described the group as currently active.

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<v Speaker 2>He also said that this group that uses this Nazi

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<v Speaker 2>like logo, which I'll describe to you in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Kennedy says, this group sometimes doesn't get along with

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<v Speaker 2>another group of deputies at the Norwalk station that existed

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<v Speaker 2>before this group, and the older group uses the logo

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<v Speaker 2>of Wiley Coyote. So we used to not know of

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<v Speaker 2>any such groups at the Norwalk station, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we know there are at least two.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you're gonna get excited upset about

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<v Speaker 2>a group of Shriff's deputies with a Wiley Coyote logo.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, guys, Wiley Coyote always loses. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Your logo unless they unless it's meant to refer to

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<v Speaker 2>the criminals that they catch.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it could be that, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>The logo in question of this newer identified group that

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<v Speaker 2>is described in this memo as being Nazi like. Here

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<v Speaker 2>it is picture it in your mind. Okay, start with

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<v Speaker 2>a skull. It's a skull, got it. Now, the skull has.

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<v Speaker 3>Blood red eyes, maybe lowing blood red, looking at you

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<v Speaker 3>with those blood red eyes, and then right through the

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<v Speaker 3>skull a jagged bolt of lightning.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently, bolts of lightning have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Connected to various neo Nazi and white supremacist movements. The Nazis,

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<v Speaker 2>some of their groups used a single or double lightning bolt,

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<v Speaker 2>like the SS, the Hitler Youth. Some modern day neo

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<v Speaker 2>Nazi groups, like there's one called National Action, they use

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<v Speaker 2>a lightning bolt. And that's why people are saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's give me connotations of Nazimus in this deputy group.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, why is this coming up? How did this happen?

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<v Speaker 2>How did they find out about it? It happened because

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<v Speaker 2>there was this incident where a deputy was beaten up

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<v Speaker 2>by a transgender person. Wait, did I just say the

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<v Speaker 2>deputy was beaten up by the transgender person? No no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no no no no, the opposite. The deputy beat up

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<v Speaker 2>and then arrested a transgender person and then said that

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<v Speaker 2>the victim had bit him bit the deputy. Now, prosecutors

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<v Speaker 2>dropped the case against the victim. A judge earlier this

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<v Speaker 2>year declared the victim factually in this sent and that's

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<v Speaker 2>when it caught the eye of Sean Kennedy over at

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<v Speaker 2>the Civilian Oversight Commission, who said, we should probably look

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<v Speaker 2>into this because the sheriff deputy beat up a transgender person.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and also lied. That's their belief is that

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<v Speaker 2>And so in the course of investigating that incident, they

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<v Speaker 2>they discovered this group and the tattoos and the logo

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<v Speaker 2>and the lightning and the blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Red eyes and the bolt of lightning, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>see what comes out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>So there are other groups we know in the Sheriff's department,

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<v Speaker 2>the executioners, there's the banditos, there's the regulators, there's the

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<v Speaker 2>Little Devils. Notice I haven't mentioned the name of this

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<v Speaker 2>newly discovered group with the skulled Lightning, bult blood Red

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<v Speaker 2>Eye tet because I don't know what it is, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not in the memo.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't put the name of the group in the memo.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's on purpose for a reason,

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<v Speaker 2>or Shohn Kennedy forgot, or he doesn't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I can tell you one last thing very quickly

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<v Speaker 2>before we get some news from Amy King. This issue

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<v Speaker 2>of groups in the Sheriff's department that are possibly white

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<v Speaker 2>supremacist or whatever has been going on for thirty years,

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<v Speaker 2>at least thirty years. Back in ninety one, shortly after

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<v Speaker 2>I joined with the FEDS, a judge, a federal judge

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<v Speaker 2>here in La Terry Hatter Junior, had a case involving

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<v Speaker 2>a group called the Lynnwood Vikings, a chair deputy group,

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<v Speaker 2>which he found was a neo Nazi, white supremacist gang

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<v Speaker 2>that used terrorist type tactics to violate people's civil rights.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is this issue has been going on a

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<v Speaker 2>long time through many administrations of the Sheriff's Department. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to ask the morning crew consisting of

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<v Speaker 2>Ann and Amy and Kono, and let's be orderly here,

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<v Speaker 2>so I will go. I guess I'll just ask you

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<v Speaker 2>the same question, but one at a time. Have you

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<v Speaker 2>received at least one letter in the mail? I'll start

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<v Speaker 2>with Ann, all right, it's not exactly alphabetical based on

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<v Speaker 2>the first name, but it's close. Have you received a

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<v Speaker 2>letter in the mail notifying you that your data was

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I have. Do you know how many you have received?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think only two? Two? Okay, more than one?

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<v Speaker 2>Two is more than one though, all right, Amy King,

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<v Speaker 2>same question. Yes, I know that at and T was

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember, so at least two two?

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh Kono, same question. Yes, it's been multiple. One of

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<v Speaker 4>them gave me a free credit checker. Oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>got to come your subscription to a free credit.

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<v Speaker 1>Check Would you say more than six?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, right around that? All right, you asked me.

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<v Speaker 4>Now cono, So Wayne, have you had any mail that

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<v Speaker 4>was your data was breached?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? One on Saturday, making a total of eight. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I have so many free.

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<v Speaker 2>Sign ups for information monitoring by Kroll. You know, Kroll

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<v Speaker 2>is a huge worldwide security company. I have. I have

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<v Speaker 2>so many of them that I had to throw some

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<v Speaker 2>of them away because you can't stack them consecutively. You

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<v Speaker 2>can only use one. It just keeps happening over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is the world that we live in now.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you have not received a letter in the

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<v Speaker 2>mail telling you your data was a breach, it is

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<v Speaker 2>only a matter of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>With that backdrop that this is happening to almost everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Comes this class action lawsuit on behalf of Disney employees

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<v Speaker 2>who were hit with a data breach, and people are

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<v Speaker 2>now that the employees are doing the company saying they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do enough to prevent the data breach or to

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<v Speaker 2>notify the victims of the extent of the data breach.

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<v Speaker 1>There are estimated.

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<v Speaker 2>Thousands of people who could become part of this class

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<v Speaker 2>action lawsuit, people who gave very sensitive personal information to

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<v Speaker 2>Disney in connection with their employment. And it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of these people are the people that work

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<v Speaker 2>for the cruise line, the Disney Cruise Line. Because here's

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. A hacking group called no Bulge released a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of data that they got null like a null

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<v Speaker 2>set or null like nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh nulgulga bulge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know what it means. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to know what it means. They released their hacked data

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<v Speaker 2>over eighteen thousand spreadsheets, thirteen thousand PDFs, forty four million

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<v Speaker 2>in slack messages. The slack messages had sensitive information about

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<v Speaker 2>these cruise employees, including passport numbers, visa details, their place

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<v Speaker 2>of birth, their addresses, and actually Disney. Disney's not saying

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<v Speaker 2>too much about it, but they apparently did say they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to stop using slack. So that's one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that happened now that only affects people who work for Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>But letters are going out right now for a hack

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<v Speaker 2>that has apparently impacted one out of every three of us,

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<v Speaker 2>and by us in this case, I mean Americans. A

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<v Speaker 2>company called Change Healthcare that you may never have heard of,

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<v Speaker 2>that I had not heard of, but they're a tech

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<v Speaker 2>company and they're owned by United Health, which you may

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<v Speaker 2>have heard of, and there was a ransomware attack that

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<v Speaker 2>interrupted services for thousands of doctors, hospitals, pharmacies. As I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it impacted one in three Americans. And the CEO of

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<v Speaker 2>United Hell said they paid, and he had to say

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<v Speaker 2>it because it was in front of a Senate committee.

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<v Speaker 2>They paid twenty two million dollars to the hackers. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you haven't received a letter on that particular breach,

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<v Speaker 2>you may already.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. I have an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It's probably a bad idea, and maybe we've come too far,

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<v Speaker 2>but the easiest way to tamp down on these problems

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<v Speaker 2>is to simply not allow any company, for any reason

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<v Speaker 1>Your social Security number, for example, you cannot have it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can never mind, you can't keep it.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to start agreeing that nobody can ask.

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<v Speaker 1>For your social Security number.

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<v Speaker 2>What about if you're applying for a credit card, or

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<v Speaker 2>what if you're okay, We may have to find some

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<v Speaker 2>limited exceptions, and then in those circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't keep it. They can use.

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<v Speaker 2>It briefly to do your credit check, and then they

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<v Speaker 2>must destroy it. And the less data that these companies keep,

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<v Speaker 2>the less problem a hack will be for us.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know the real.

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<v Speaker 2>Answer would be if they could do a better job

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<v Speaker 2>of keeping the data safe.

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<v Speaker 1>But they can't. You know why they can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, for one thing, you know, technology can only get

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<v Speaker 2>you so far. Here's another reason, though, And everybody on

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<v Speaker 2>this show it knows exactly.

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