Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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Speaker 2: Good morning, it is the Bill Handle show. Bill just
Speaker 2: started a vacation. He is going to be in Italy
Speaker 2: this week and in and around Verona. And it's probably
Speaker 2: just a coincidence that that's also where they are holding
Speaker 2: the ICFA, the International Convention of Furreys and Admirers. That's
Speaker 2: just I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Neil Savedra is
Speaker 2: off just for today. He will be back tomorrow. Wayne
Speaker 2: Resnick's's filling in until nine o'clock and some of the
Speaker 2: stories we're watching for you at KFI. Just not even
Speaker 2: two weeks after Hurricane Helen made landfaf Florida residents are going.
Speaker 1: To get hit again Hurricane Milton, which.
Speaker 2: At last check was a Category four hurricane.
Speaker 1: Amy King.
Speaker 2: At any point I'm talking about this and I say that,
Speaker 2: and it's been changed.
Speaker 1: You can just bar right in Will to give us
Speaker 1: the latest. Thank you.
Speaker 2: It's going to almost certainly hit the Gulf coast of
Speaker 2: Florida somewhere in the next couple of days. And what
Speaker 2: it'll do after that is anybody's guess at this point.
Speaker 2: And the Supreme Court has opened a new term this week.
Speaker 2: They have a lot of things that they are going
Speaker 2: to hear, and I picked three of them for you,
Speaker 2: kind of big cases that are going to affect a
Speaker 2: lot of people, some of them dealing with questions that
Speaker 2: have never been dealt with before at the Supreme Court level.
Speaker 2: And one of them involves and this is really appropriate
Speaker 2: because it's spooky season. And I know it's spooky season
Speaker 2: because everybody keeps telling me it's spooky season. And also
Speaker 2: because there are several businesses, longtime businesses that sadly have
Speaker 2: closed around where I live, and every one of them
Speaker 2: this is not an exaggeration, because I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: be funny. There were three kind of big, bigger box
Speaker 2: businesses that went out of business. All three of them
Speaker 2: are right now spirit Halloweens. So and that's how I
Speaker 2: know it's spooky season. And the Supreme Court is going
Speaker 2: to take up the issue of ghost guns. These are
Speaker 2: guns you put together yourself, and therefore you don't have
Speaker 2: to do a background check, they don't have to have
Speaker 2: a serial number. You buy the parts, you can buy
Speaker 2: these part kits, and you assemble these guns yourself. And
Speaker 2: the law has been that you don't have to do anything.
Speaker 2: And then the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Speaker 2: made a like, it's not really a ruling because they're
Speaker 2: not a court. I guess they made a policy decision
Speaker 2: that ghost guns will be treated like regular.
Speaker 1: Guns, like a live guns that aren't haunting you.
Speaker 2: And therefore that means you will have to pass a
Speaker 2: background check, and you will. You can build your own gun,
Speaker 2: but it'll have to have a serial number on it
Speaker 2: that can be traced. And an appeals court said, oh no,
Speaker 2: you don't. They can't do that. The ATF cannot make
Speaker 2: that happen. So now the Supreme Court has been asked
Speaker 2: by the government to weigh in, and I mean, given
Speaker 2: the way they've gone recently, I would not be surprised
Speaker 2: if they rule in favor of keeping ghost guns spooky.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, it is going to boil down
Speaker 2: to something very dry and boring, which is the definition
Speaker 2: of a firearm under federal law, and whether a firearm
Speaker 2: that you have put together yourself is a firearm. It
Speaker 2: kind of seems like it probably is. Then the Court
Speaker 2: is going to hear a case out of Tennessee. Although
Speaker 2: there are over twenty states that have a similar situation
Speaker 2: going on, but this one they're gonna hears out of Tennessee,
Speaker 2: and it has to do with a law there that
Speaker 2: bans gender transition treatments for minors, so puberty blockers or
Speaker 2: hormone hormone therapy or gender affirming surgery. I don't know
Speaker 2: how much of that is really going on with miners.
Speaker 2: But the other thing, the medications definitely are used, and
Speaker 2: some of these drugs can be used to treat other
Speaker 2: issues that have nothing to do with the gender identity.
Speaker 2: And so a federal judge said that law is unconstitutional,
Speaker 2: and then the appeals court said, oh, it's very constitutional.
Speaker 2: And now the Supreme Court will ultimately decide if you
Speaker 2: can ban this kind of treatment. There are three transgender
Speaker 2: young people are suing claiming it violates equal Protection clause.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna tell you I think about it.
Speaker 2: And first I'm gonna tell you I'm not an attorney
Speaker 2: in I didn't go to law school.
Speaker 1: And it's very important that I tell you that.
Speaker 2: Number one, so that you don't think that I'm trying
Speaker 2: to practice law without a license or anything. But also
Speaker 2: because what I'm about to say is so smart that
Speaker 2: if I didn't warn you, you might be fooled. You
Speaker 2: would be fooled and assume that not only am I
Speaker 2: an attorney, but I'm a brilliant attorney. But I'm not
Speaker 2: even an attorney. There's a very good argument that this
Speaker 2: law does violate the equal protection clause because it is
Speaker 2: a law that is based on sex classification, which is illegal.
Speaker 2: And here's why. If you were born female and for
Speaker 2: whatever the reason, you are given certain hormone treatments.
Speaker 1: Or puberty blockers, that's fine.
Speaker 2: But if you were born a female and now you're
Speaker 2: being given the same drugs to deal with your gender identity,
Speaker 2: then the law is discriminating against you because of the
Speaker 2: gender you were born relative to what they're trying to
Speaker 2: do with the medication. Whether or not you can get
Speaker 2: certain treatments is based on what gender you were born,
Speaker 2: and generally speaking, laws that discriminate based on what gender
Speaker 2: you were born are unconstitutional.
Speaker 1: It's a pretty strong argument.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean it will prevail, obviously, And the other
Speaker 2: big case they're going to hear is whether these states
Speaker 2: can require you to identify yourself and that you are
Speaker 2: over eighteen in order to look at porn online. They're
Speaker 2: gonna hear the law out of Texas. But there's many
Speaker 2: states that have passed these porn id laws. Notice where
Speaker 2: they are, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Virginia. I believe
Speaker 2: Georgia recently passed one, and then also Montana and Utah.
Speaker 2: And you know what, Okay, protecting children is a very
Speaker 2: valid governmental interest. So the question is not going to
Speaker 2: be do these states have a point? They have a point.
Speaker 2: The question is going to be, is this the least
Speaker 2: restrictive way to protect miners from seeing pornography online? And
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I don't know what other I
Speaker 2: don't know a least a less restrictive way to make
Speaker 2: sure that a miner doesn't see porn online other than
Speaker 2: to require that the person who wants to see porn
Speaker 2: online verify that they're not a minor.
Speaker 1: So we'll see where all of these things go, all right.
Speaker 2: A new investigation by the Civilian Oversight Commission, which oversees
Speaker 2: the LA County Sheriff's Department.
Speaker 1: About a previously unknown.
Speaker 2: Deputy group that a report says it's really more of
Speaker 2: a memo, but it's still information coming out of the
Speaker 2: Civilian Oversight Commission that says this group uses a logo
Speaker 2: that features Nazi like imagery.
Speaker 1: This memo.
Speaker 2: Was written by Sean Kennedy, a longtime member of the
Speaker 2: Civilian Oversight Commission. He described the group as currently active.
Speaker 2: He also said that this group that uses this Nazi
Speaker 2: like logo, which I'll describe to you in a moment.
Speaker 2: Sean Kennedy says, this group sometimes doesn't get along with
Speaker 2: another group of deputies at the Norwalk station that existed
Speaker 2: before this group, and the older group uses the logo
Speaker 2: of Wiley Coyote. So we used to not know of
Speaker 2: any such groups at the Norwalk station, and.
Speaker 1: Now we know there are at least two.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you're gonna get excited upset about
Speaker 2: a group of Shriff's deputies with a Wiley Coyote logo.
Speaker 1: I will say, guys, Wiley Coyote always loses. I don't
Speaker 1: know why he's.
Speaker 2: Your logo unless they unless it's meant to refer to
Speaker 2: the criminals that they catch.
Speaker 1: I guess it could be that, all right.
Speaker 2: The logo in question of this newer identified group that
Speaker 2: is described in this memo as being Nazi like. Here
Speaker 2: it is picture it in your mind. Okay, start with
Speaker 2: a skull. It's a skull, got it. Now, the skull has.
Speaker 3: Blood red eyes, maybe lowing blood red, looking at you
Speaker 3: with those blood red eyes, and then right through the
Speaker 3: skull a jagged bolt of lightning.
Speaker 1: Apparently, bolts of lightning have been.
Speaker 2: Connected to various neo Nazi and white supremacist movements. The Nazis,
Speaker 2: some of their groups used a single or double lightning bolt,
Speaker 2: like the SS, the Hitler Youth. Some modern day neo
Speaker 2: Nazi groups, like there's one called National Action, they use
Speaker 2: a lightning bolt. And that's why people are saying, oh,
Speaker 2: it's give me connotations of Nazimus in this deputy group.
Speaker 1: Now, why is this coming up? How did this happen?
Speaker 2: How did they find out about it? It happened because
Speaker 2: there was this incident where a deputy was beaten up
Speaker 2: by a transgender person. Wait, did I just say the
Speaker 2: deputy was beaten up by the transgender person? No no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no no no, the opposite. The deputy beat up
Speaker 2: and then arrested a transgender person and then said that
Speaker 2: the victim had bit him bit the deputy. Now, prosecutors
Speaker 2: dropped the case against the victim. A judge earlier this
Speaker 2: year declared the victim factually in this sent and that's
Speaker 2: when it caught the eye of Sean Kennedy over at
Speaker 2: the Civilian Oversight Commission, who said, we should probably look
Speaker 2: into this because the sheriff deputy beat up a transgender person.
Speaker 1: And then and also lied. That's their belief is that
Speaker 1: he lied.
Speaker 2: And so in the course of investigating that incident, they
Speaker 2: they discovered this group and the tattoos and the logo
Speaker 2: and the lightning and the blood.
Speaker 1: Red eyes and the bolt of lightning, and we will
Speaker 1: see what comes out of it.
Speaker 2: So there are other groups we know in the Sheriff's department,
Speaker 2: the executioners, there's the banditos, there's the regulators, there's the
Speaker 2: Little Devils. Notice I haven't mentioned the name of this
Speaker 2: newly discovered group with the skulled Lightning, bult blood Red
Speaker 2: Eye tet because I don't know what it is, because
Speaker 2: it's not in the memo.
Speaker 1: They didn't put the name of the group in the memo.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's on purpose for a reason,
Speaker 2: or Shohn Kennedy forgot, or he doesn't even know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But I can tell you one last thing very quickly
Speaker 2: before we get some news from Amy King. This issue
Speaker 2: of groups in the Sheriff's department that are possibly white
Speaker 2: supremacist or whatever has been going on for thirty years,
Speaker 2: at least thirty years. Back in ninety one, shortly after
Speaker 2: I joined with the FEDS, a judge, a federal judge
Speaker 2: here in La Terry Hatter Junior, had a case involving
Speaker 2: a group called the Lynnwood Vikings, a chair deputy group,
Speaker 2: which he found was a neo Nazi, white supremacist gang
Speaker 2: that used terrorist type tactics to violate people's civil rights.
Speaker 2: So this is this issue has been going on a
Speaker 2: long time through many administrations of the Sheriff's Department. Okay,
Speaker 2: I would like to ask the morning crew consisting of
Speaker 2: Ann and Amy and Kono, and let's be orderly here,
Speaker 2: so I will go. I guess I'll just ask you
Speaker 2: the same question, but one at a time. Have you
Speaker 2: received at least one letter in the mail? I'll start
Speaker 2: with Ann, all right, it's not exactly alphabetical based on
Speaker 2: the first name, but it's close. Have you received a
Speaker 2: letter in the mail notifying you that your data was
Speaker 2: breached from anybody.
Speaker 1: Yes, I have. Do you know how many you have received?
Speaker 1: I think I think only two? Two? Okay, more than one?
Speaker 2: Two is more than one though, all right, Amy King,
Speaker 2: same question. Yes, I know that at and T was
Speaker 2: one of them, and there was another one too, and
Speaker 2: I can't remember, so at least two two?
Speaker 4: Ooh Kono, same question. Yes, it's been multiple. One of
Speaker 4: them gave me a free credit checker. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 4: got to come your subscription to a free credit.
Speaker 1: Check Would you say more than six?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: All right, right around that? All right, you asked me.
Speaker 4: Now cono, So Wayne, have you had any mail that
Speaker 4: was your data was breached?
Speaker 1: Yeah? One on Saturday, making a total of eight. Wow.
Speaker 1: I have so many free.
Speaker 2: Sign ups for information monitoring by Kroll. You know, Kroll
Speaker 2: is a huge worldwide security company. I have. I have
Speaker 2: so many of them that I had to throw some
Speaker 2: of them away because you can't stack them consecutively. You
Speaker 2: can only use one. It just keeps happening over and over.
Speaker 2: And that is the world that we live in now.
Speaker 2: And if you have not received a letter in the
Speaker 2: mail telling you your data was a breach, it is
Speaker 2: only a matter of time.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: With that backdrop that this is happening to almost everybody.
Speaker 2: Comes this class action lawsuit on behalf of Disney employees
Speaker 2: who were hit with a data breach, and people are
Speaker 2: now that the employees are doing the company saying they
Speaker 2: didn't do enough to prevent the data breach or to
Speaker 2: notify the victims of the extent of the data breach.
Speaker 1: There are estimated.
Speaker 2: Thousands of people who could become part of this class
Speaker 2: action lawsuit, people who gave very sensitive personal information to
Speaker 2: Disney in connection with their employment. And it seems like
Speaker 2: a lot of these people are the people that work
Speaker 2: for the cruise line, the Disney Cruise Line. Because here's
Speaker 2: what happened. A hacking group called no Bulge released a
Speaker 2: bunch of data that they got null like a null
Speaker 2: set or null like nothing.
Speaker 1: Oh nulgulga bulge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what it means. I don't want
Speaker 2: to know what it means. They released their hacked data
Speaker 2: over eighteen thousand spreadsheets, thirteen thousand PDFs, forty four million
Speaker 2: in slack messages. The slack messages had sensitive information about
Speaker 2: these cruise employees, including passport numbers, visa details, their place
Speaker 2: of birth, their addresses, and actually Disney. Disney's not saying
Speaker 2: too much about it, but they apparently did say they
Speaker 2: were going to stop using slack. So that's one thing
Speaker 2: that happened now that only affects people who work for Disney.
Speaker 2: But letters are going out right now for a hack
Speaker 2: that has apparently impacted one out of every three of us,
Speaker 2: and by us in this case, I mean Americans. A
Speaker 2: company called Change Healthcare that you may never have heard of,
Speaker 2: that I had not heard of, but they're a tech
Speaker 2: company and they're owned by United Health, which you may
Speaker 2: have heard of, and there was a ransomware attack that
Speaker 2: interrupted services for thousands of doctors, hospitals, pharmacies. As I said,
Speaker 2: it impacted one in three Americans. And the CEO of
Speaker 2: United Hell said they paid, and he had to say
Speaker 2: it because it was in front of a Senate committee.
Speaker 2: They paid twenty two million dollars to the hackers. So
Speaker 2: if you haven't received a letter on that particular breach,
Speaker 2: you may already.
Speaker 1: Now. I have an idea.
Speaker 2: It's probably a bad idea, and maybe we've come too far,
Speaker 2: but the easiest way to tamp down on these problems
Speaker 2: is to simply not allow any company, for any reason
Speaker 2: to keep.
Speaker 1: Your social Security number, for example, you cannot have it.
Speaker 1: You can never mind, you can't keep it.
Speaker 2: We need to start agreeing that nobody can ask.
Speaker 1: For your social Security number.
Speaker 2: What about if you're applying for a credit card, or
Speaker 2: what if you're okay, We may have to find some
Speaker 2: limited exceptions, and then in those circumstances.
Speaker 1: They can't keep it. They can use.
Speaker 2: It briefly to do your credit check, and then they
Speaker 2: must destroy it. And the less data that these companies keep,
Speaker 2: the less problem a hack will be for us.
Speaker 1: And I know the real.
Speaker 2: Answer would be if they could do a better job
Speaker 2: of keeping the data safe.
Speaker 1: But they can't. You know why they can't.
Speaker 2: Okay, for one thing, you know, technology can only get
Speaker 2: you so far. Here's another reason, though, And everybody on
Speaker 2: this show it knows exactly.
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