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Speaker 1: What's going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season three, episode

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forty nine of Clips in Dip. We're doing a little

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bit of a live paying game preview just to talk

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Clippers versus Lakers. Bring your questions, bring whatever you have

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in regards to the Clippers and the Lakers. I guess

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I am Chuck Mockler, joined by William Updyke and Adam Osen.

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We have the full crew here today. Do we want

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to will how did you feel about the game last night? Adam,

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you that was we're gonna get in the Clippers Lakers,

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But I'm not in wasn't exactly encouraged. I'm happy we won,

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but I wasn't exactly encouraged as a whole from that performance. No.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you were hoping for the Clippers to

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have like an ideal tune up game against the Bulls,

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this was not that. It was definitely closer than was needed.

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And I mean, Adam'm sure you know more about this

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than I, but I do feel like the defense that

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we saw to start the season and how this Clippers

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team sort of set their identity seems to be in

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the rearview mirror at this during this stretch of the season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, the last fifteen games haven't been as good.

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Teams have been shooting ridiculous from three over that time

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against the Clippers, so that's kind of skewed the numbers

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to some extent. And I don't you know, I was

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watching closely because the Bulls were going off from three

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last night, as were the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: Crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if either team cooled off, it was going to

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be a blowout. Somebody was gonna win in lopsided fashion.

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But in that third quarter they combined to go sixteen

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of twenty two from three. Both teams, like it was insane,

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and I was watching closely. A lot of them were

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guarded pretty well, and it just didn't matter. Like Giddy's

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being guarded. He went four or four from three. There

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were some wild stuff in that game. James Harden obviously

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hit some crazy shots.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, though, and that third quarner it was like think,

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I mean, the reason we won was because James Harden

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had a twenty point third quarter. For the most part,

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like the defense, three point shooting aside. People were pretty

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upset at the defense. The points in the paint was crazy.

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They had thirty against us in the first half. We

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can't have the same defense tomorrow night.

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Speaker 3: I think they ended up with it was it forty

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eight or something like that, like that run in the

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second quarter with the starters coming back in after the

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second unit played really well with a mere coffee and

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bogie and batoom and threw U Banks and Ben Simmons,

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and then the starters came back in and kept turning

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the ball over. And I thought James Harden had one

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of the worst halves of basketball in a Clippers jersey

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that I had seen, and completely redeemed himself the second half.

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I was worried he was just so gassed. This was it.

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I haven't said on Twitter, like, if he looks this tired,

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I think you just have to take him out, Like,

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I don't think you could have him out there, because

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if guys are going to turn the ball over like

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that and also not get back at all on defense,

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that could be a problem. He flipped a switch. Obviously,

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he dug deep and hit the biggest shot of the

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ball game. But you know, I thought, outside of that

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seven minute stretch to end the second quarter, the Clippers

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offensively were obviously pretty darn good. I think they ended

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up with like thirty three assists assisted on over seventy

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percent of their main field goals. Defense was spotty at times,

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but some of it was really hot shooting. Some of it.

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I think the defense that was more of an issue

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was the back door cuts. They were getting on them,

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and they were getting them on DJ and Chris doun

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To and nobody was really connected enough. But the hot

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shooting carried them through. And thank God for James Harden.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the through line of the season a

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little bit so far for the Clippers. We got the win.

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That is what is important. Will haggle no haggle. Tomorrow

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and Sunday are the two biggest games of the Clippers

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season so far.

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Speaker 2: I mean not in the like, I don't know that

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they necessarily have to get both, but you have to split.

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You have to split, or it's there's so many people

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in the West. I mean, they're they're like their conference

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record is already so bad that you know, I won't

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necessarily necessarily say that it's too far gone, but like

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they're going to turn things around against against some conference opponents.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially one that is ahead of us and

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has I mean, if they the thing that sucks is

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do we have how many more games against Lakers. Do

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we have at for this one? Oh?

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Speaker 3: This is it?

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Speaker 1: This is it? Yeah, so they're not going to have

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the tiebreaker if they split, which is I don't want

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to sound pessimistic, I see them splitting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this Lakers team, I think you can be happy

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with a split. Is I guess what I'm saying, like

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what I feel like one of these is a must win.

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I'm not I'm not ready to say that they need

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to go to and Ho or Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I would like them to go to and No.

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Speaker 3: I just if you split, you're not You're not catching

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him in the standings. It's over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they're catching him in the standings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you win both, you could, you could there. Look,

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it is probably unrealistic right now to think they're gonna

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be able to win both against the Lakers, but who

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knows Lakers on a back to back. I think if

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the Clippers the game they have to get is Friday

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and then getting a close game with the Lakers on

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Sunday and see what happens.

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Speaker 1: How can Yeah? I mean basically and also, yeah, you

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mentioned second out of a back to back. Norm has

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been elevated to questionable. So I'm not going to assume

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he plays, but it's nice that he's been elevated to questionable.

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I'll be curious to see how many minutes he gets

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and if that effects if he plays on Sunday. But

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having Norm back, the Clippers broke their losing streak without Norm,

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which I think was at six games up until yesterday.

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So if he can't go, things get a lot more difficult.

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But it's kind of hard to look at this new

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look Lakers team right, Like, you can't really look at

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the stats with them and Luca. It's only been a

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handful of games, a couple of like a couple of stinkers,

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a couple of stinkers, a couple of not so much stinkers.

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We got people. Yeah, I mean, like, so what's do

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we want to talk the offense first or we want

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to talk to the defense first? Because I think kind

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of historically go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I just like that, like the Clippers need

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to get back to that defensive identity because that, I

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feel like is their only path forward. It's already going

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to be really hard to slow down this team. But

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I mean, this Lakers team is pretty routinely giving up

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you know, one plus Uh, not that the Clippers will

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necessarily get there even if they had all the opportunities,

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especially without Norm Powell. But uh, they gotta slow They're

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gonna slow that down and exploit that a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I got some bad news, guys. The Lakers

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have the number one defense last fifteen games in the league.

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Speaker 1: Shoo, what are they with Luca?

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Speaker 3: They've been good? I really could.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lebron feels re energized because he has Luca on

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the team. That's kind of the vibes I've seen from

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some Lakers fans that I that I know. But the

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way to combat that, right is, we just got to

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put them in motion. It's like it's the same is

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when we played the MAVs. We wanted to see Luca

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putting the more motion on defense. The center position, you

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would think, is one that the Clippers can attack, right, Like,

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the the Lakers center core is not ideal for what

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they have have.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna go small and play Rui at the five

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a lot. Yeah, and it seems like, well, just get

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to big Zoo and let him kill him. Well, they're

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gonna double him, like They're gonna make the Clippers play

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fast and have to make quick decisions out there with

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the basketball, whether or not to shoot or pass it,

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and that's where the Clippers they have to be sound.

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They have to be really sharp.

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Speaker 1: And we're seeing some Jeremy Mormons asking in the chat,

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can Ben guard Lebron? Because you mentioned the Lakers going slow,

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we got to imagine the Clippers will counter with that.

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If Zuo's not working against the small ball lineup, they're

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not gonna put Drew Eubanks out there to see if

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that works. How are we feeling about Ben Simmons on Lebron.

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Speaker 3: He's guarded him in the past, like he's not the

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same guy who was in Philly. But I don't hate

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it for a few minutes here and there. I do

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think if you try to go small and match up

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that way against the Lakers, I don't know if there's

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many teams that are gonna have a lot of success

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doing that. Honestly, I think like that's a tough game

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to win. Yeah, like you got to impose your will.

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I obviously go small at times, but sure, if you

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try to do that for thirty minutes, I think hearing

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Speaker 1: I mean we yeah, we can't because Batum's been out

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there with Simmons and Batom one of the big helpers.

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The fact that Simmons is here helps Batom have a

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little more less responsibility because he is not exactly a

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spring chicken anymore. Will do you think or I guess,

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do we hope that in terms of like imposing their

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will we get Zoo some touches early? Because there's been

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a couple of games lately. Where was it the Pacers

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game where it took a while for Zoo to get

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his first field goal attempts in that game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like Adam said, if he's getting doubled,

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that kind of changes the game plan as far as

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what he can do. And also, again, this is like

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the norm ques like the norm Questionable Nation kind of

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it sways a lot because with doubt that it gives

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Zoo a little less space to operate. So yeah, obviously,

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come back to you on here is like, let's find

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Zoo early in offense. Let's like, let's try to get

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some easy buckets. Like we know that under either one

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of these center positions, UH like that he'll be up

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against I think that like I like him over Hayes

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or or yeah, like I you know, I think that

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that's a great matchup, but it just depends on how

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they counter that and also you know what we're able

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to put, well, what we're able to put around them,

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Speaker 1: The offense.

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Speaker 2: I mean like I just don't know that there that

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there's gonna be enough space and that they're gonna have

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enough scoring in a lineup out there with Simmons with

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how sort of they're going to be able to counter

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that defensively for the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if we see more of a playoff

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rotation quote unquote from time I louin this game and

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he shortens it up because like you said at him,

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maybe we go all out tomorrow to get the win,

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and that means like, well, you know, it's house money

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on Sunday or something like house money. Like I wonder

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if we see the shortened up rotation tomorrow. And someone

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pointed out in the chat too, if Bron and Luca

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are available for both games, do we think one of

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them sits the second night of the back to back.

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It sounds like I'm not mad at it.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like that restriction is off with Luca. But

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let's say if it's a tight one down the stretch

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against Minnesota's night and they got to play heavy minutes,

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I don't think it's out of question because it seems

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like with Lebron at his foot, it's also kind of

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like a day to day thing with how he feels

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when he wakes up in the morning. So I wouldn't

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be shocked if one of them missed the game tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: And I'm here for it at this point. Get us wins,

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get us wins against the conference opponents and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: And if they are ready to go though, like, let's

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see the Slippers team who had trouble keeping up with

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the that Bulls team like able to actually pounce on

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on a team on the second night of a back

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to back.

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Speaker 1: What uh what are we not to be too? Doom

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and gloom here chat? Feel free to put yours uh

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in here too. What are we most worried about from

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the Clippers in this game? Cause last night we talked

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about the back cuts and stuff like that. I don't

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want to see Zoo having to do the thing where

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he's the last line of defense because someone didn't cover

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their guy in the right way, and then we see

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the you know, there's an easy bucket in the paint,

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and Zoo does to throw his hands up looking at

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the wing who was supposed to be there to help

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check the guy, or something like that, like we can't

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lose We can lose points in the paint, but we

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can't lose points in the paint by like more than eight.

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Or I think things are bad, Adams.

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Speaker 2: I think if it's one of those three I feel

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like if it's one of those three point shooting nights

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for the Lakers, like if we let it, if we

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let a team get hot and they're not only they're

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not only hitting threes, but are getting easy buckets where

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they can sort of reserve some of the some of

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the tougher ones and even on the second end of

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a back to back, maybe not have to work as hard.

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That sounds like disaster fuel for the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: To make disaster fuel. Adam, What are you? What do

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you worry about?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they can win if Viatzsa Zubats

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doesn't play very good to great, like he's he's got

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to be great with this decision making in the short role,

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he's got to be great when they double a triple

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team him, like what they did to Jokich last weekend.

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Granted that was their super Bowl or their championship or whatever.

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JJ redickt sleep for a couple of days. That was

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a big game for them. They really want to measure

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themselves with this new look against Denver, and they won.

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And Jokich was like four or twelve or something like that.

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So they were so good scrambling and rotating in that

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game against the other team's big and Nikola Jokic in

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this case, who's like the best ever in passing out

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of those double teams and stuff, and even he got flustered.

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It's like, what's gonna happen. What's gonna happen with the

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visa Zubas, Like he's gonna have to make really really

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fast decisions out there, because I don't know if they

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can win without him on the court. If you try

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to play the Lakers game and go small, I don't

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know if that's a tenable situation. You might win a

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minute or two, but I think over twenty minutes of

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small ball or something like that, you could be in

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deep trouble really quick. So the other side of it

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is also if they're playing small the Lakers like in

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Zoo's guarding RUI or DFS. They're gonna try to pull

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them away from the basket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Get by the Clippers and their on ball defense is

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gonna have to be really good. They got to stay

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in front of their man better than they did against

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Chicago there night. Like they have to get back to

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what Will was talking about, being an elite defensive team.

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Get back to your identity. It has to art right now.

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Speaker 4: I uh oh, Clipper Vlad hit me up. Maybe that's

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something going on. They've just been resting up for this game. Yeah,

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nothing to worry about. They've just been resting up for

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this one.

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Speaker 1: Metal Slug twenty six is saying in the chat, I

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prefer them to be a full Lakers squad. We need

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the Clips to be challenged. The Clips were challenged by

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a shorthanded Bulls team yesterday, so I any team is

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kind of challenging the Clippers.

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Speaker 3: We all remember the Lakers last time out not having

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Luca and beat them by twenty five without Luca and ad.

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Speaker 2: Metal Slug though, like, can we like, let's get it,

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let's get it. How about one quality win?

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Speaker 1: Okay? You know I will it's been a couple of weeks.

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It's been a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: How about the less quality win against a banged up

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Lakers team on a back to back Friday and the

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quality win against the full strength Lakers on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: That's sure. Yeah, two wins. Yeah, slipper of lads in

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the chat. Couple of us are going to be at

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the thirty five or in Pasadena tomorrow for the game,

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So come through. Let's overflow that spot. Levibeen asking is

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norm playing tomorrow. Maybe he's questionable, So trending in the

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right direction for sure. Let's talk Kawhi because we talked

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about Zoo needing to be good tomorrow and Kawhi has

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not looked like the best player on the Clippers, which

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at some point he needs to get to should the

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Clippers make any noise or anything like that. And Adam,

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you mentioned talking you mentioned how good Jokic is at

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passing out of double teams. Kawhi kind of on the

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other end of the spectrum when it comes to passing

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out of double teams. I have a feeling he's gonna

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get blitzed pretty early if he when he brings the

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ball up in the half court.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll probably try to make other guys beat him.

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Lebron's been good guarding game where he was last season.

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He is so big and strong. Usually why Light's going

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up against smaller guys. Even though Casey p was a

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good defender, like that's not a good defender for a

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guy like Kawhi. H. He's got to be quicker with

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the decisions. I think this is it. Like, I think

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there's a good chance Kawhi could be off a minutes

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restriction this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Ooh okay.

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Speaker 3: I was looking back to the last two years in

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when he turned a corner and it was after game

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seventeen for him in the twenty two to twenty three season,

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and it was after game sixteen for him last season.

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We're past game seventeen right now. It's just about that time,

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different circumstances. It's it's not, you know, a perfect parallel

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to last couple of years, but he's been at thirty

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two to thirty three minutes for a little bit. Now.

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I'm just thinking, is this it when they finally take

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the governor off of Kawhi and we see what we

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want to see, which is a guy playing top five

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level again or does he just not look the same

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and we're talking about Kawhi Leonard losing a step. I

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think it's a moment of truth coming up here at

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least in the next week.

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Speaker 1: Truth moment of truth for a couple of reasons, Will

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would you want Kawhi's minutes restriction to be lifted kind

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of no matter how he looks, you know, Or do

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you want him to because I'm kind of torn because

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it's like, do I want him to look great in

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thirty three minutes and then it's up to thirty six

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or do we I mean it has to come off sometime?

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Why not? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, I think you know, I've been in support of

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sort of how they've done this rampup thing.

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Speaker 1: I think they've done it really well.

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Speaker 2: You know, going back to Kawhi's statement, even like when

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he was back, you know, you can't expect him to

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score you know, mid twenties.

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Speaker 1: Thirties right out there.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that hopefully we're at a point

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where you don't have to manage the minutes and it's

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just a matter of getting him back into a rhythm

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and getting him into like to full swing while he's

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on the court. And while it might not be there

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Friday at the level that we needed to be. I

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do think that at this point in the re ramp up,

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removing the minutes restriction is definitely a step in the

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right direction because at that point, you know, like what's

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holding him back is.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming, you know, uh more, just going with the.

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Speaker 2: Flow of the game versus you know, him having any

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concern where he's you know, holding himself back physically because

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he's you know, has whatever concerns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Adam, you just want it off because he's gonna

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have to get.

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Speaker 3: Up there, and if he's ready, like this would be

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a great time to do it, Like he might only

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play eighteen more games in the season, Now, what are

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you going to take it off and see what he

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can do? Because our entire hopes are with Kauai being

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able to get back to last year's version for the

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Clippers to be a contender and make noise in the

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Western Grammers playoffs, and right now they're teetering on falling

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into the play in. You still want to try to

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position yourself well in the regular seat it and not

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just say well, we'll just wait till the playoffs start.

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I don't think they can afford to do that.

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Speaker 1: We've been there before too, Like, I don't think any

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Clippers fan wants to yeah, see that again?

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Speaker 3: So can the playoffs start now? Could they start earlier?

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Could they start in a two game series against the Lakers? Maybe?

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Speaker 1: I mean it kind of is. I bet we'll hear

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some kind of quote in regards to it feeling, you know,

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like a must win playoff type thing. Rez in the

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chat is asking has this team won more than five

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games in a row this year? Don't think that's been

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the case. They won five in a row in November,

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but I do not think they have won more than

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five in a row. They have a win streak of

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five and a win streak of four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and those are the longest.

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Speaker 1: Those are the longest two streaks. Awesome. Chris Benavidez asked,

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saying our bench needs to outscore their bench by at

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least ten points or it's gonna be a rough night.

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A mere coffee was phenomenal last night against the Bulls.

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The slander also about a mere coffee is odd to me.

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The man makes very little money in terms of what

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his impact is on the team, and he's an end

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of rotation guy. You know what, I mean, like his

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his ceiling is is hot. I mean his floor is

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pretty low. But like he's been good this year and

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he's not the reason that they've lost games, you know

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what I'm saying. So I hope we're gonna need a

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similar game efficiency wise from a mirror tomorrow versus the Lakers.

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I don't know how much opportunity is gonna get, especially

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if there's you know, we're playing heavier starters minutes, but

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like a big a mirror game goes a long way

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tomorrow for the Clippers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they could use that. He did look good,

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really aggressive with that second yearnit, especially in the first half.

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I think he had fourteen points against Chicago. That was

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good to see. And I think it's been a little

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bit overblown with just plus minus numbers, and they have

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been wonky with him. I went back month by month

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and it's like one month he's like a plus sixty,

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another month he's down him minus fifty. I think he's

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been in a couple of bad lineup that gotten schlacked. Yeah,

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for sure, it skewed the numbers a little bit. But

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also I've noticed something with the mirror coffee where I

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think he's starting to get a pretty bad whistle based

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upon reputation, Like he's establishing a reputation of a guy

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who's not a very good defender or fouls too much.

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It is starting to happen more frequently, or it seems

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like he gets some really ticky tac calls sometimes against

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him just because reputation precedes him. I don't know that

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that's a little bit worrisome to me, because I think

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he's been a pretty solid defender throughout most of his

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career as a Clipper.

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Speaker 1: Except that one summer league game and he fell out

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of a summer league game a couple of years ago. Yeah,

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absolutely did well.

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, we thought that mirror coffee tenure might

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have been coming to it.

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Speaker 1: That was a rough offseason. He bounce back great, which

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is awesome. We are very happy that he is a

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Clipper other than a mayor. We talked about Ben Simmons

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res Is in the comments saying he to not run

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these weird tiny lineups he loves so much. But to

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your point, Adam, like, if the Lakers are gonna go small,

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the Clippers are probably gonna counter by going small a

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little bit. But is it just the three guard thing,

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like if Norm plays.

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Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, the Lakers are definitely gonna go small a lot.

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And I think if a Viza Zubots is not working

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for a couple of possessions, coach Leu will probably have

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a quick trigger to get him off the court. Yeah,

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and that's concerning to me, Like they got to get

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it to a Viza Zubots, not in the high posts,

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not where he has to put the ball on the

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floor and back down his guy. They need to get

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it because they're going to surround him quickly, Like it's

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gotta be bam bam. Get it to Viza Zubos to

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the dunker spot, get him on the left block or

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right block, and he's got to put up a hook

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shot as he leads the league by like sixty more

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hosts the next fulsisky right away. He cannot wait for

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the defense to come and double. So yeah, it's it

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would be a really cerebral game. I think a big

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chess match out there.

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Speaker 1: We love a chess match. JJ Reddick versus Tyler. Who's

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gonna be interesting. Bogden. Bogden has a chance to break

477
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this game open for the Clippers if the shooting is there.

478
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He made what four to threes last night, four or five,

479
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something like that. But he's also putting the ball on

480
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the floor. Like if you can put the ball on

481
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the floor and kind of get that pick and roll

482
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going with Zoo and kind of whoever's around him, Like

483
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Bogden has a chance to buck this game up in

484
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a good way for the Clippers. Right. Well, like you

485
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got Bogden and Simmons out there being productive. There was

486
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a nice little ball fake where last night where Simmons

487
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brought the ball up Derrek Jones Junior kind of cut across.

488
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They faked it to Derrick Jones Junior, the defense followed,

489
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got it to Bogden wide open three he hit. Like

490
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Bogden and Simmons need to be pluses tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it's as someone else in the

492
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chat said, like if the Clippers bench needs to be

493
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put Lakers bench by ten, that puts a lot of

494
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pressure on Bogdanovich because he's, i mean, probably the guy

495
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who's most readily able to do it out of anyone

496
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on this bench. So yeah, a great a great game

497
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from him would go a long way.

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Speaker 1: Adam, how you feel about Bogham do you think he's

499
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shooting is because it's been hot and cold. We've seen

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him half the good games and then very quickly after

501
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that it's been maybe not.

502
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Speaker 3: As good all it has been extreme, But I think

503
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his numbers now have gotten him after last night's game

504
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right at thirty percent okay three as a Clipper, just

505
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like he was in Atlanta all season, and that's with

506
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a one for twelve game included there. I'm hoping what

507
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happened last night, you know, he knocked the lid off

508
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the rim or whatever, and he's feeling much more confident

509
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because he hit a huge clutch three in the fourth

510
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quarter that he had. Also, he hit two of his

511
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four makes in the fourth quarter, and he's been a

512
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Laker killer in the past. They need him to be again.

513
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I'm hoping a familiar foe. We'll bring out the best

514
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in Bogey out there. But yeah, he's also he's been

515
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fouling a lot, and that's a little they have of

516
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a concern.

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Speaker 1: It's just I think it's a fatigue thing. He's just

518
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getting his legs back to playing because he hadn't played

519
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a bunch right up until the trade.

520
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's not a great defender.

521
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Speaker 1: He try a very good point.

522
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Speaker 3: He's not great because he just isn't the quickest guy

523
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out there. It's not that he isn't giving his his

524
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all out efforts. Sometimes it's just not good enough. But

525
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I guess this Lakers team, like they have so many

526
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,440
matchup problems they could pose it you Now, it's like, hey, uh,

527
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we need our third best defender on the floor to

528
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guard Austin Reeves. Now, It's like, damn, that's that's tough.

529
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So I Bogue needs to have a hot game from three.

530
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He needs to have a hot weekend from three against

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the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Hot weekend from three. Yeah, that would be nice. We're

533
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gonna do a quick audio break because we're gonna put

534
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this out later, so if you're listening to this later

535
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and you miss the live, you can always catch these

536
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at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast. If you're watching,

537
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thank you for hanging out by the way on a

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Thursday night, Clippers big game against Lakers tomorrow. I'm gonna

539
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keep talking that after this ad breaking three two? What

540
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all right?

541
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Speaker 2: Welcome back in to clips and did we're still talking

542
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preview Clippers a couple of very important games over this weekend.

543
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Worst case scenario, let's let's go what I've.

544
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Speaker 1: Been thinking about all day.

545
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Speaker 2: Oh and two in an ugly fashion. Yeah, Adam, can

546
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the Clippers come back from that? Can they avoid the

547
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play in?

548
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Speaker 3: I gotta see what Minnesota is doing tonight. Yeah, it's

549
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gonna be very difficult. It's gonna be very difficult if

550
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you lose both games to the Lakers, because then they

551
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have Phoenix, and I know Phoenix has been playing miserable basketball,

552
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Like they're gonna see the Clippers, a team they've beaten

553
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three times this season, and they're probably gonna wake up

554
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:11,559
and they're still talented. Like, I'm not buying it, especially

555
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if they're closer in the standings at that point. Because

556
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the Clippers lost both in this hypothetical to the Lakers,

557
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they have a tough schedule coming up. So yeah, I

558
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think you have to at least get the split. It

559
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has to be there otherwise, Yeah, you're probably falling into

560
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the plan.

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Speaker 1: People are talking about Chris Dunn in the chat. They're

562
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mostly talking about his defense. My worst case scenario for

563
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tomorrow is the ball is funneled to Chris Dunn and

564
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Derek Jones Junior, and they're not able to convert on

565
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their shots and I'm not saying convert at like an

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above average percentage, you know, I mean we get will

567
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We talked about it a couple of days ago. How

568
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many shots Chris Dunn had against? Was that Milwaukee where

569
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he had a good offensive game. Yeah, but the game

570
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plan for the the team is to kind of have

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him shoot the ball a lot like it. Yeah, he

572
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put up ten or twelve shots, which is too many,

573
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and there are people out, But like if done in

574
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DJ and the game doesn't hinge on this, I don't

575
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want to make it seem like that, but it really

576
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helps if those guys are close to league average on

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their shots.

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Speaker 2: I just hope it doesn't come down to I mean

579
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me too, I would yeah, same here. I just hope

580
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it doesn't come down to that. Although yeah, like the

581
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Lakers funneling everything to those guys is you know, a

582
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very probable scenario. I'd rather I'd rather depend on countering

583
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that instead of depending on like an outlier shooting performance

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from either one and kind of average would be at

585
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an at like a league average shooting night would kind

586
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of be I would say, an overperform.

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Speaker 1: But I'll take it if it happens. Obviously, I'll take it, Adam,

588
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how are you feeling. You look like the gears are

589
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turned a little.

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Speaker 3: They both have had a couple of good offensive outputs recently.

591
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The numbers are trending in the right way as of late.

592
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For Chris Dunn, from the outside, I thought DJ was

593
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really good. He had nine points in the first quarter

594
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last night.

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Speaker 1: Huge first quarter. And he was good on defense too.

596
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He was active, he was a little bit more locked

597
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in than some of the other guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing. And you look at matchups in the starting

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lineup against the Lakers, should they have Luca and Lebron?

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That so the last two games, Kawhi started on Lebron

601
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to start off games. So if they do that again,

602
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then you have Chris Dunn on Luca, DJ on Austin

603
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Reeves and hide James Harden on Ruyachimura and have Zuwon

604
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Jackson Hayes. That's been their starting lineup.

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Speaker 1: Do you go?

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Speaker 3: You could switch to Don and DJs, But I like

607
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Luca has size on both of them. Yeah, but Done

608
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is more of the pest. I don't know. I'm kind

609
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of interested to see. I don't know his history with Luca.

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Speaker 1: Can't have a lot of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just based only DJ's taller but more wiry. Done's

612
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a little bit more stout but shorter, and it's a

613
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little bit better on the perimeter on on ball guys Like,

614
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I don't know, I don't I don't hate those matchups.

615
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I hope it doesn't take too much out of Kauai.

616
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But this is what's going to be demanded against a

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team Mike the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I like what Jeremy Mormon's saying where he says,

619
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worst case scenario, Luca takes Zoo out of the game.

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What you've seen before, Zoo's got a lot better when

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he's had to be on that island against Luca. But

622
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if Luca's just hitting those shots, he's kind of have

623
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to live with it. But that reaction from TYLERU where

624
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he takes him out, then it's kind of like we're

625
00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:52,799
almost in. Let's see how the small ball lineup works,

626
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:57,079
because what's been our best small ball lineup this year? Right? Like,

627
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But it's not like there's a quote unquote death f

628
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:03,000
line up that we all have been clamoring for because

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it was great in a short period, you know what

630
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I mean.

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Speaker 3: And the difference back when when Luke used to do

632
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that with Dallas against uh Zobas, like they would still

633
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have often a big on the floor and the Clippers

634
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would just go small so they could switch everything. And

635
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now it's like Luca's gonna be doing that while his

636
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:33,920
team is going small a lot. Uh yeah, it's like

637
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,480
you have to make them play your style. Like it's

638
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:41,960
it's two styles clashing in a game like this, and

639
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,279
for most teams against the Lakers now it's like, uh,

640
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like Dallas tried, they went small. They kind of had

641
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to because all their guys are banged up, and like

642
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,559
they couldn't win that game even with a great game

643
00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:55,039
from Kyrie Irving, even with Klay Thompson going off in

644
00:32:55,079 --> 00:32:59,440
the fourth quarter against Lakers like uh Denver, I mean,

645
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,440
you can't say they're going small because Joki is playing

646
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:09,400
forty minutes. But like when Charlotte beat them Mark Williams

647
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wasn't that game late and they were targeting Luca a ton.

648
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They put him in the action in the fourth quarter

649
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:20,359
over and over over again, which you know shouldn't be

650
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,640
a brilliant game plan, but they execute it so well

651
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and LaMelo was just absolutely in his bag and that

652
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,640
was kind of like their championship beating the lukash They

653
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,000
toldally got up for that game and LaMelo made all

654
00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:38,559
those big shots. But to what you were saying earlier,

655
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,640
I saw the notes too. It's like, yeah, you got

656
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to make them work. You got to make Luka Dancis

657
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work defensively.

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Speaker 1: Adam with a subtle ad that he did see the

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notes earlier. Thank you, Adam.

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Speaker 5: Oh well, and we I mean, like we look back

661
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:59,680
to this last matchup, I have, uh, one of the

662
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,440
worst losses of the season.

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Speaker 1: I'd say probably that one. Definitely that one is right

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up there. Yeah uh.

665
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Speaker 2: And you know, if you're looking at it as you know,

666
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that team plus Luca seems like a pretty impossible feed.

667
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But that was one of James Harden's worst games, if

668
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,320
not like his worst game of the season. So a

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Clippers team with a more healthy Kawhi without a minute's

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restriction and James Harden because he I mean, he had

671
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,880
not a sense but you know, offensively, he effectively did

672
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not have the impact that he normally has. Norm was

673
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the only guy who cracked twenty. You know that I'm

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00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,159
liking it a little more. I'm talking myself into this.

675
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Speaker 1: You are, but you yeah, like healthy Norm. It all

676
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:47,039
hinges on how much Norm can play. To me, like,

677
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:50,039
Kawhi is obviously important, Adam, you had a good tweet

678
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,039
before the last game wondering if Kawhi's was going to

679
00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:56,519
be limited after the foot thing. Minutes wise, didn't seem

680
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like he was.

681
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Speaker 3: Yeah, people were mad he didn't play the last three

682
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minutes of the fourth, but they weren't going to play

683
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,079
in the entire fourth quarter. I get you may have

684
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wanted him to come in at the eight minute mark

685
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or something like that, but it's like they were trying

686
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to go for the kill early in the fourth. It

687
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made some sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, doing nothing is saying in the comments, you know,

689
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,440
he thinks that they excuse me, think that the Clippers

690
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:25,760
are slow with Kawhi being back, but that might help

691
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,639
because the Lakers play slow. The Lakers are twenty first

692
00:35:29,639 --> 00:35:31,880
in pace. But this is not the same Lakers team.

693
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They didn't have Luka Donchitz for the first part of

694
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,039
and like it's hard to take away. I was trying

695
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:41,039
to look at some stats from the you know, the

696
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,159
Luca games, but it's just too small of a sample size.

697
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,559
We know what Luca can do on the break. What

698
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:49,760
did Lebron say he's a natural wide receiver. Luca is

699
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,480
a quarterback. Like, it's not going to be a super

700
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:54,920
slow Lakers team. I don't think.

701
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 3: No. They're fifth in pace their last eight games, so

702
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,519
all the Luca games in there, plus a few without him,

703
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:06,079
like they've been playing much faster. So stylistically, yeah, it's

704
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:07,360
a completely different matchup.

705
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: Now quick hard pivot Punk's gone wrong saying we should

706
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,360
rename the show clips and SIPs and we can all

707
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,639
have a drink. I mean maybe that's the off season play.

708
00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:19,559
We did dips last off season. Now we do SIPs

709
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:21,599
in this offseason. If you want to have a sip,

710
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:23,280
we will be at the thirty five or tomorrow just

711
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,719
hanging out for the game. But yeah, the sponsored post,

712
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,519
you're plugging this a lot. I'm bhi man. Lad hit

713
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:32,760
me up right before the thing and I was like, hell, yeah,

714
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,480
let's do it. We love the thirty fiver. Adam's having

715
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,119
a sip, Adam, what are you having a sip of?

716
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,920
That looks like a water bottle that doesn't have water

717
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:40,920
in it.

718
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: It's got some major water down pre workout drink from

719
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,760
earlier that has a little bit of caffeine to get

720
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,280
me going.

721
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: Okay, hell yeah. Yeah. So we talked what's what's best

722
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,320
case scenario? Obviously best case scenarios two and oh and

723
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,320
Kawhi looks like a world beater? Is there really anything else?

724
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 3: Number two gets them to two and o This weekend.

725
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,679
Speaker 1: The Harden minnesot is going to be interesting because we

726
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:13,039
saw him play forty a couple games agoing TYLERU blamed

727
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:17,519
himself for Harden being out there for that long, and

728
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:20,679
it's like, sure, okay, well, yeah, you manage those minutes.

729
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 3: We might.

730
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean, thank you. We might need forty from him tomorrow,

731
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:31,119
a good forty.

732
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,039
Speaker 3: Like I don't want to have to rely on unsustainable

733
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:40,079
stuff to beat teams. But there's twenty four games left.

734
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:42,920
You need victories. You need to stay out of the

735
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,679
play in. Yeah, it's like cold Harden have one big

736
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:49,000
game in Kauhi, have one big game this weekend, and

737
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:52,840
that's like those that's the scenario of them possibly going

738
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,280
to and out.

739
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:58,079
Speaker 1: And I still think you got Norman there. Yeah, I

740
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,360
mean Norm has to have it at least an average

741
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,480
game for his averages. He's the highest scoring guy in

742
00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:02,760
the time.

743
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: I still think this is all about Zoo, Like, if

744
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,760
Zoo can't stay on the floor, if they really try

745
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,360
to match the Lakers going small, I I'm scared. I'm

746
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,880
talking myself out of this matchup.

747
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: What's been their free throw disparity since they've had Luca,

748
00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:20,880
because we all have seen the graphs of how many

749
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,639
more free throws they get, YadA, YadA, YadA. I feel

750
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:27,599
like Adam's looking that up right now. But if if

751
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:29,920
it's not been trending, well, I'm worried for Zoo because

752
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Zoo gets a Zoo doesn't get a wist on the

753
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,400
offensive end, and sometimes he gets the bad whist on

754
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,400
the defensive end. Yeah.

755
00:38:36,599 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in really foul trouble. That's that might be curtains.

756
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if he's in foul trouble in the

757
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,199
first half, we're relying on Drew Eubanks to be out there. Like,

758
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,519
no disrespect to Drew Banks, but he's not as good

759
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:50,519
of a defender as Zoo.

760
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:57,679
Speaker 3: Lakers are seventh the last eight games, so uh, they've

761
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,400
getten to the line. They're attempting twenty four or free

762
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,639
throw attempts per game, okay, and the Clippers have not

763
00:39:03,679 --> 00:39:07,199
been defending without voiling very well overall. Last night was

764
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,679
kind of the exception And actually I think did Chicago

765
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,639
go like six of eleven like that kind of really

766
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,119
hurt them?

767
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was something bad. Yeah, what are the Clippers

768
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,960
at these last couple of games for free throws?

769
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:24,159
Speaker 3: Uh? Okay? So last eight games from the Lakers was

770
00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:27,840
a twenty four point one. Last eight games from the

771
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,239
Clippers twenty three point one.

772
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,199
Speaker 1: Okay. I mean if the if the free throw disparity,

773
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,840
which this might be the Yeah, this might be the

774
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,199
thing that won't happen at all. If the free throw

775
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,599
disparity is the same for the two teams, I'm feeling

776
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,079
a lot better. There's so many people in the chat

777
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,320
worried about backdoor cuts from last game. The Bulls have

778
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:53,800
given Clippers fans PTSD about backdoor cuts. It's just an

779
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,920
everything there was. There was a couple of moments last

780
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,760
game where Kawhi wasn't getting super getting back super quick

781
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,519
on the break. A mirror was Gill tav It a

782
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:01,440
couple times too.

783
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Speaker 3: There were a lot of ever plays.

784
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: Yes, and if they do that, Adam, you talked about

785
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,159
imposing their will to begin with, If they're doing the

786
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,960
opposite of that, and we have to like being down

787
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:18,000
ten in the first. I know it's it's a new league, whatever, whatever,

788
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,800
Being down ten in the first feels really rough to

789
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,119
think about tomorrow. Will, how are you feeling if they're

790
00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:27,800
deck they were because they were up thirteen on the

791
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,480
balls and kind of barely eat that one out well.

792
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:34,079
Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, I've like the Clippers starts have been a

793
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:36,960
lot better this year. They have struggled to maintain a

794
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,119
lot of those leads. It feels like, but yeah, I

795
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:42,320
mean no, I don't want to start out down ten?

796
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: Do I have? I have the option here? My option

797
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,239
would be no, Your option would be no. Okay, just

798
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,480
the level set. Will does not want the Clippers to

799
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:51,800
start the game minus ten.

800
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,639
Speaker 3: What is your guys' best small ball lineup? When the

801
00:40:57,639 --> 00:40:59,719
Clippers have to do it, and they will have to

802
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,719
do it, what's your ideal small ball lineup against it

803
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,840
will be at times they're gonna have Luca Austin, Lebron

804
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,920
ruey Dfs out there. Who's your five going against that?

805
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go jam done, Norm Kawhi Simmons, Wait, sorry,

806
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,119
go ahead, hard and done.

807
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: Harnin done, Norm Kawhi Simmons.

808
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,639
Speaker 1: The shooting's a little rough, but I like the defense.

809
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,039
Coau I's been hitting from three, He's not really been

810
00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:39,039
shooting well from kind of anywhere else that is in

811
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:42,679
a layout. Yeah, but I like the But you just

812
00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:44,719
have to you have to do the same things.

813
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,519
Speaker 2: Like it's like the aggressive Zoo game plan that Adam

814
00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:50,679
alluded to earlier, like keep keeping Simmons around the rim.

815
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:53,960
Uh and just quick decision making.

816
00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I'm gonna go. Man, maybe I'm leaning

817
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,880
too heavy into offense on that one. I think we're

818
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,400
all obviously going Simmons at the five. I'm gonna go

819
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,599
Batum at the four. Oh, I like that. I'm gonna

820
00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:10,559
go Batune at the four, Simmons at the five because

821
00:42:10,559 --> 00:42:14,599
that helps with some shooting, Kawhi at the three, and

822
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:21,079
then hard Powell hardened norm the defense in the backcourt

823
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:24,760
feels a little Then you gotta put a little more

824
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:30,079
pressure on Kawhi, Nico and Ben Simmons. But that feels

825
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:31,480
like a lineup when I was kind of talking about

826
00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:35,199
playoff lineups that we would see and if any game

827
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,960
to give it a run, right, Like, I'm not sure

828
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:42,599
if we've seen that lineup yet that would probably be mine. Yeah,

829
00:42:42,639 --> 00:42:44,400
and I think it's a really good lineup and that

830
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,039
Tyler should play it and give me credit in the

831
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:50,400
post game if it works well. Adam, what's your ideal

832
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,239
small ball five?

833
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 3: No, I'd probably go with what you just said exactly that,

834
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,719
because you got decent size out there with Simmons Batoom,

835
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,960
and that's a pretty big small ball front line.

836
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

837
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have enough shooting with Kawi, with Nor

838
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:12,360
with James Harden. Actually the toombs now like just under

839
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,920
forty percent from three on the season, he's been better.

840
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: I'd get a little worried about how much responsibility. But

841
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,639
Tom would be put on defense because I know he's

842
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:23,599
a good defender, but not that he'd be targeted or something,

843
00:43:23,639 --> 00:43:26,280
but he's It would have to be I think short

844
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,039
stints for this lineup for it to be fully affected.

845
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking like three to four minutes.

846
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,119
Speaker 2: Like Adam said, I mean, they just can't lean too

847
00:43:35,559 --> 00:43:38,880
much into the small ball lineup. It's just not it's

848
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,400
not going to be that sustainable for this.

849
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: It's not the team's game either, Like we're not we're

850
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,119
not wing stop. We've always been in Olive Garden. That's

851
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:49,159
what this team has been guard And for those of

852
00:43:49,159 --> 00:43:49,960
you who missed.

853
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,679
Speaker 3: Hey, I could be wrong. Maybe Ben Simmons at the

854
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,360
five is the difference maker against the Lakers. What does

855
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,000
he have? Twenty assists to two turnovers like he was Yeah,

856
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:01,079
he led them in assist againt Chicago. He had to

857
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:03,519
eat as he was incredible with some of those passes.

858
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:07,679
Speaker 1: Is it weird to maybe another small ball? I hope

859
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:09,039
we could see it would be that same one, but

860
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:13,039
take out Norm and put Bogden in, because that's not

861
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:17,360
saying they're interchangeable obviously, but then you have a bigger

862
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,159
ish small ball lineup. His passing isn't the worst. He

863
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:21,480
can put it on the floor, like.

864
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: I honestly smaller. I honestly think though even as smaller size,

865
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:31,679
Norm is probably a better defender than Bogey.

866
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're probably right on that. I don't

867
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:35,480
safety well too.

868
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:40,599
Speaker 2: Yeah yea both getting some defensive love in the chat.

869
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:46,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yes, I agree with this, shar Thank you

870
00:44:46,679 --> 00:44:48,719
for thank you for posting this. Harden and Powell are

871
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,159
playing far better d this season with JVG coach ump.

872
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:53,559
Once Bogden gets a couple of weeks of the JVG.

873
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:58,159
That's all he's been missing. Man. Yeah, I think we'll

874
00:44:58,199 --> 00:45:01,320
be okay. We're gonna do one more quick audio break.

875
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,360
Sorry Adam, but this one's going along, so we're gonna

876
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,760
keep We need to keep the lights.

877
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:05,119
Speaker 3: On over here.

878
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,199
Speaker 1: Quick audio break. If you're listening on audio and you

879
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:08,679
don't want to deal with these breaks, you can watch

880
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,480
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881
00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:14,480
It's a fun time audio break and then more Clippers

882
00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:16,639
Lakers stop coming up in three two one.

883
00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: Welcome back in Cliffs and Dip. I'm at a Maslin

884
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,039
We get the live for you guys. The Big three

885
00:45:23,119 --> 00:45:27,519
is here with Chuck Mockler and will Updyke and the

886
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:29,440
more I think about it with this Lakers team, and

887
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,760
it's kind of been like this since the Mark Williams

888
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,440
trade got mixed. It's just with the Lakers. How do

889
00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:38,920
you beat them with your size? How are you able

890
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,679
to exploit that obvious weakness that the Lakers do have,

891
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,880
like them not being able to get that center this

892
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,639
season may have saved us from having to see a

893
00:45:48,679 --> 00:45:52,400
Lakers championship. I'm not saying it's completely off the table,

894
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,280
because look, and Lebron are that special, but that if

895
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,039
they don't win it, that's gonna probably be the reason why.

896
00:45:58,519 --> 00:46:00,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk to some of light Lakers if you don't

897
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:07,159
think they'll win the championship this year. Yeah, the center thing,

898
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,920
how do I mean? Because we haven't really talked about

899
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,000
Derek Jones Junior. I only talked about hoping he would

900
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,480
be league average shooting from outside for these two games.

901
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,519
But if we can get him out running right like,

902
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:23,480
there are guys who in transition can make life easier

903
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:25,199
for the Clippers, and Derek Jones Junior is one of

904
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,840
those guys. We got another ask. If Norm Powell is

905
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,960
playing tomorrow, he's questionable. We'll find out, let's really hope.

906
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,599
So what's your best guess, Joe on Powell playing tomorrow?

907
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,639
Sure the injury, Tyler's gonna say sure. When I asked

908
00:46:42,639 --> 00:46:45,639
if I can't remember, Yeah, if we get it, I

909
00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:49,360
can't remember. The man will be starting? Will do you

910
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,719
want to see the So let's say Norm is playing

911
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,639
you I'm assuming, based on your comments about the multi

912
00:46:57,679 --> 00:46:59,639
guard lineups, you want to see Derek Jones Junior in

913
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:02,320
the starting line up, obviously over Chris Done. If Norm

914
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:10,480
is healthy. I think this might be I think this

915
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:12,960
might be one for this might be one for done,

916
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:18,119
one for done. Okay, all right, that's fair. I think

917
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,320
I need the size to start it off. Adam, where

918
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:26,079
are you break this tie? Break this blood feud? I

919
00:47:26,199 --> 00:47:29,440
like Luca and Jail early. Okay, I'm not. I mean

920
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,280
I can't argue with that.

921
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,679
Speaker 3: If Norman is back, is it done or is it DJ?

922
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,960
I think Coach lou would go with done.

923
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: Damn.

924
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:45,639
Speaker 3: He just playing not exactly heavy minutes recently, like he's

925
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,400
kind of gotten lost in the shuffle of times where

926
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,840
he's only playing like twenty minutes some nights, which seems

927
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,800
a little bit odd. I was listening to a lot of

928
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:59,440
jam earlier. Bring this up too, And I think he

929
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,239
has more faith in Chris Dunn as just being that

930
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:07,079
disruptor because he is and he's had like two of

931
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:11,320
the greatest perimeter defensive games I've seen in my lifetime recently.

932
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: And he's just a guard just by nature of being

933
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:15,800
a guard.

934
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 3: There's that, But he can guard up, he can guard,

935
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,599
he can guard Lebron some, he can guard Lucas some,

936
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,000
he can guard Austin Reeves like you have those guys

937
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:30,039
are all lead with the ball in their hands. Like

938
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:32,760
Austin Reeves has been really special the last couple of months.

939
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,079
It's annoying. It is really frustrating. He's starting to get

940
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:41,360
to a really good player. Yeah, I think it will

941
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,960
be done. If if that decision has to be made, well,

942
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:46,519
I have an idiot.

943
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 1: Looks like it's gonna be Christial in the starting lineup.

944
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,559
Speaker 3: Go the other way.

945
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 2: I mean, this would be, like, you know, this would

946
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,760
be the time if he is fighting for more rotation

947
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,079
minutes for der Jones Jior to have a standout game

948
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:00,519
even if he's not in the start lineup, in the

949
00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:04,679
minutes that he plays, because he does bring well, he

950
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,079
brings a hint of size. He's not, you know, physically

951
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:13,000
the largest guy, but uh, you know, the vibe is that, you.

952
00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: Know, actually considering his history with Dallas, with DJ and

953
00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:22,639
how many times he mashed up against Luca in practice,

954
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,079
maybe it is DJ. He knows them, he knows Luca

955
00:49:27,199 --> 00:49:30,039
very well. I don't know what Chris done in his

956
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:32,480
past history, how many times he's mashed up against Luca.

957
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:32,920
I don't know.

958
00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: Tell little he's been in the league. I just can't

959
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,440
imagine there's.

960
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 3: Like injured bad teams. He Actually I could totally see

961
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,679
DJ because of that, he has the familiarity on his side.

962
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:47,559
Speaker 1: I like this point from Jeremy Mormon in the chat,

963
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:50,199
Chris Done is a better player until Kawhi becomes a

964
00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:55,480
top five player. Then Derek Jones fits better, which I

965
00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:59,960
kind of is gonna be more responsible in Kauhi. Derek

966
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:01,920
Jones off the bench is interesting too, because then you

967
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,639
have Derek Jones, Ben Simmons, Boggden coming off the bench.

968
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,719
It's not a bad three guys to be kind of

969
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,079
the first three off the bench to help Tyloo with

970
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,840
you know whatever we're going to see small ball wise.

971
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,559
Speaker 3: Either way, those are two guys in a decision that honestly,

972
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:21,000
I don't worry that much about. Like, I feel comfortable

973
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:24,000
either way, whether it's DJ, whether it's Done. Yeah, I

974
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,599
love how both of them played all season long, grand

975
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:27,400
scheme of things.

976
00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:29,119
Speaker 1: If you've listened to the show, you know that I

977
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,280
kind of hate it in the long run, but for tomorrow, yes,

978
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,119
whatever it takes to get the dub, because we got

979
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:38,079
to figure the shit out before the playoffs start.

980
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm with you, I don't I don't love

981
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,519
the rotating starting lineup, but I mean, you know, Adam

982
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:45,880
referred to this being a cerebral game, and like sort

983
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,239
of with that, I think having a little bit more

984
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,800
versatility and optionality isn't necessarily a bad thing in terms

985
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,400
of being able to throw out some some different defensive

986
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:56,280
looks out there.

987
00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:59,119
Speaker 3: You know, we talk about all of these things, but

988
00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:02,519
maybe the most imporant thing is still just because Jeremy

989
00:51:02,519 --> 00:51:04,519
Moorem brought it up and it's been on my mind

990
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:07,480
all day, is Kawhi gonna get back to being a

991
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:11,039
top five player? Because if he's not this weekend, if

992
00:51:11,039 --> 00:51:13,360
he's not playing like Lisa at an all star level,

993
00:51:14,559 --> 00:51:17,079
yeah they might, they might go oh and two against

994
00:51:17,079 --> 00:51:19,360
the Lakers. This is this is really his time. And

995
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,760
I was looking up some of the numbers and I

996
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,840
don't know if this is a good thing or a

997
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:26,159
bad thing, but the area that he's missing in is

998
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,960
actually the mid range right now, it's the mid range

999
00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:34,320
that is the part of his game that's being left out.

1000
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: Which we have seen previously, like in other seasons.

1001
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: Oh, he's like, yeah, he's one of the greatest i'd

1002
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,039
say mid range shot makers ever. Like he's so good.

1003
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:47,679
He's He's the exception to the analytics rule of actually

1004
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,960
you want to range shots when it comes to Kawhi.

1005
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,360
He's like forty seven percent for his career from ten

1006
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,920
to sixteen feet out. That is elite, like people think

1007
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,320
Carmelo Anthony Oh mid range. Carmelo's unstoppable. He is at

1008
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,079
forty one percent in that area. Kobe I thinks I

1009
00:52:03,159 --> 00:52:07,360
at forty four percent. Kawhi is an assassin there and

1010
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,039
the shot. They haven't been going to it much. They

1011
00:52:11,039 --> 00:52:14,480
haven't been setting him up much there, and I can't

1012
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:16,920
help but think maybe this is intentional and they're just

1013
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,079
not fully unleashing him in that area because that's what

1014
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:24,519
he does. That is Kawhi. That's the reason. Recently the

1015
00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:27,199
last nine games, she's shooting better from three than from two.

1016
00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:30,679
Like his two point shots. His three point shot is there.

1017
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,639
He's shooting like forty seven percent from three to the

1018
00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:35,639
last nine games. I'm about forty two attempts, and that's

1019
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:38,920
good because his legs are there from for the long ball,

1020
00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:41,840
that's usually a good sign. So get him into the

1021
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:42,400
mid range.

1022
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: More sergery of Martinez saying, I've been wondering if he's

1023
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,039
swimming down his effects, his usually lethal mid range shots.

1024
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:52,960
I don't know. We saw him slim down as a

1025
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,639
season went on last year and things were elite for

1026
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:56,760
sixty five games.

1027
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 3: He's honestly not taking me because over the last nine

1028
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,679
game he's only averaging three per game within eight to

1029
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,920
sixteen feet. Last year he was over five per game

1030
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,320
in that area with Paul George on the team taking

1031
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,519
shots like he should be taking more. And some of

1032
00:53:11,559 --> 00:53:14,760
this is the minutes, but I don't think he's been

1033
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,639
nearly aggressive enough or been featured well enough so far,

1034
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,320
especially over the last nine games.

1035
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, uncanny CFP isn't ruining your team you anymore? I'll

1036
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:33,800
take that. That is nice. Funny that he stopped the podcast.

1037
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,639
Now he was like, one, lock this shit in.

1038
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,679
Speaker 3: That is pretty insane, Darde, it's time to get ready

1039
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:48,559
for the championship run. We're twelve games under Rye trick.

1040
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,559
Speaker 2: Like now, also, like that's so ball George, Like, now, dude,

1041
00:53:52,639 --> 00:53:54,559
now is the time to lock in?

1042
00:53:54,679 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 1: Finally, Great, it's not gonna be that long of a

1043
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,840
break for the podcast pe podcast Like, it's not like

1044
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,760
there's not that many games. Yeah, if you're an avid listener,

1045
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:04,360
don't worry.

1046
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 2: There's gonna be You'll have a summer full of podcasts.

1047
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,519
Speaker 1: They do one a week. I guess the other part like, anyway,

1048
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:14,880
we're not here to talk about Paul George. We never

1049
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,840
have to talk about him again, all right. The most

1050
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,719
I like what Liza is saying. I hope we are.

1051
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,519
We're really gonna get hot at the end of the

1052
00:54:23,519 --> 00:54:26,440
regular season. I hope that too, because there's sixteen games

1053
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:31,320
in March that we gotta go sixteen of the remaining

1054
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:38,360
twenty four. Yeah, Adam, who is your player of the

1055
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:44,519
game for Friday and Sunday? And I think before we

1056
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:48,760
make the picks, because these games are so important, can

1057
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,079
we choose one of the pre Can we go Dave

1058
00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:55,840
Pingalore style and choose whoever we want? You these player

1059
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,159
of the game love Pingalore, but picking James Hardener Kwhi

1060
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:02,199
Leonard to be your player the game? Come on? So

1061
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,440
we're everyone's on that. We're going ping rule Pingalore rules.

1062
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:10,920
Everyone's on the table. Yes, okay, Adam, who is your

1063
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,559
pick for player of the most important game standing wise?

1064
00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:21,039
If the Clippers want to pass the Lakers.

1065
00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:21,159
Speaker 3: Well, the guy who I think is the biggest X

1066
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,679
factor for them to get wins against the Lakers is

1067
00:55:24,679 --> 00:55:26,760
gonna be Big Zoo, So I gotta go with him.

1068
00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:29,039
I don't know if it works out that way, but

1069
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,239
if they're going to win and have a chance to

1070
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,719
win both, Big Zoo is gonna have to be great

1071
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:36,320
this weekend?

1072
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:41,519
Speaker 1: All right? Will your pick for the most important player

1073
00:55:41,559 --> 00:55:44,239
of the games? Remember it's for both. We don't have

1074
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,880
an easy pick a player of the game thing here

1075
00:55:47,039 --> 00:55:49,679
at clips and did we make it difficult for ourselves

1076
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:52,800
by usually removing every single star player and picking over

1077
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,159
multiple games. Will who's your pick?

1078
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Kawhi if the minutes restriction is off.

1079
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,920
Like we've talked about this a little bit, you know,

1080
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:09,079
we haven't seen sort of the sustained greatness obviously that

1081
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:12,719
we got last season. If he was able to put

1082
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,480
together two back to back games obviously not you know,

1083
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:21,880
not a back to back, but two games, yeah, two

1084
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,880
games in succession where he was looking we were getting

1085
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,400
at least a glimmer of of where we know he

1086
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:29,639
can be or has been.

1087
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a lot better. I'm feeling a lot better. Yeah.

1088
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,519
Speaker 2: I think he had like an eleven point performance last time.

1089
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:40,840
Out is you know, it's fine, okay.

1090
00:56:41,079 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: I So Sergio Martinez askeding, what about the Laker killer Bogdanovic?

1091
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,760
That would be awesome. If Bogden has like two games

1092
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,639
where he puts up like twenty points off the bench,

1093
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:50,519
that would be great.

1094
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,519
Speaker 3: Traditional rules. I was gonna go with Bogie.

1095
00:56:53,679 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, well traditional eclips and player of the game rules.

1096
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,159
I'm gonna go, And this is probably going to be

1097
00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:04,960
a stupid pick. I'm going the player of the game

1098
00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:07,920
needs to be whoever. I guess it's kind of an

1099
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,760
Adam's line. Whoever's playing the five when Zoo's off the floor.

1100
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,119
If if Simmons has a bad game, you Banks is

1101
00:57:14,199 --> 00:57:18,559
probably gonna get some minutes at some point. I think

1102
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,840
I don't think he's going small or Zoo, because then

1103
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,039
we're getting into kind of a lot of small ball minutes.

1104
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:30,039
I'm not saying he should, but you know what I'm saying, like, wait,

1105
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:34,639
are we counting Ben as small ball? Whoever? Yeah?

1106
00:57:34,719 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 3: As a no for me, dog, but I think this

1107
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,719
weekend all weekend, yeah, in two two.

1108
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,239
Speaker 1: So whoever's playing the center when Zoo is off the

1109
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,079
floor has to be like they can't we can't be

1110
00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:55,360
bad with them out there or things are things are

1111
00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:02,039
going poorly? Oh yeah, I think for the duode all right,

1112
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:05,840
and we're all picking two and O right, no question

1113
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,440
in our mind. So I'm saying to Chuck, just take

1114
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:15,159
the field. Yes, yeah, I did take the field. Now,

1115
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,039
if I had to pick one player, I don't want

1116
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:20,559
to pick Norm because we've already that would be the

1117
00:58:20,599 --> 00:58:21,320
three guys.

1118
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: James Harny turning it around for him not a great

1119
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,559
outing would be nice.

1120
00:58:28,199 --> 00:58:28,519
Speaker 3: And well.

1121
00:58:28,519 --> 00:58:30,199
Speaker 1: And like you said, the last time on the Lakers

1122
00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:31,960
was one of his worst games of the year, so

1123
00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:33,639
hardened having.

1124
00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 2: In a deficient I mean, realistically, like three of these

1125
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:45,719
guys are gonna have to have good games, like like Reeves, Yeah, Reeves,

1126
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,280
Luca and Lebron are all gonna be over twenty Ruey,

1127
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,199
I mean in his new role as like you know,

1128
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,880
twenty plus around twenty ish a game like it's.

1129
00:58:56,039 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: It's it's a tall order. It's a tall order. Yeah,

1130
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:02,440
it's it is. And I hope Tylo has a good

1131
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,440
couple of games. He's had good games for the most

1132
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,400
part this season. There hasn't been a lot of games

1133
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,000
where you go, what the hell are we doing out

1134
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,840
there other than Simmons Zoo. I hope that doesn't happen.

1135
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,000
Sure other than Simmons Zoo. Which, Hey, that rake is

1136
00:59:16,039 --> 00:59:17,519
on the ground. Do you think if I step on

1137
00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:19,280
it it'll hit me in the face. That's kind of

1138
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:25,239
how the zoo bois. It's maybe it'll work for us.

1139
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,400
There is someone on our channel, and maybe because I

1140
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,039
have to translate it from French who keeps talking about

1141
00:59:35,079 --> 00:59:39,559
how uh zuod is like isn't as good as Mobambo?

1142
00:59:40,039 --> 00:59:42,159
Speaker 3: I get that guy too, and it's like the same

1143
00:59:42,239 --> 00:59:46,480
message I've cross checked. I think it's a bot. I

1144
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,519
don't think it's real. I think it's Ai. I hope

1145
00:59:48,519 --> 00:59:48,920
it's Ai.

1146
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, JJ, the boy is saying Kawhi dropping thirty tomorrow.

1147
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:59,480
I can feel it in my knees. Get your knees checked, man, Yes,

1148
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:00,400
that's try.

1149
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,239
Speaker 3: To make a joke about Kawhi and come on, man,

1150
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:05,280
I don't know.

1151
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate it though. All right, Well that about wraps

1152
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,800
it up. Here's to the Clippers winning both of these games.

1153
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:18,199
Here's to them splitting them at the very least. Probably

1154
01:00:18,239 --> 01:00:21,800
no postgame live tomorrow, probably one on Sunday though we'll

1155
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:28,760
just be chilling. Yeah, we'll see what happens. We'll have

1156
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,400
a full pod for y'all on Monday to talk whatever

1157
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,559
the hell happens. You know that Adam Oslin has you

1158
01:00:33,639 --> 01:00:36,039
covered over on Clippers Talk. Maybe we'll be on the

1159
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:38,360
radio after one of these games. Who knows. Last time

1160
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,239
we were at a bar and did the post game

1161
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,360
after was one of the lower moments of Clippers history

1162
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,920
because PJ. Tucker took more shots than Paul George's.

1163
01:00:46,039 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 3: Let's book it now, you guys, come on from the

1164
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,000
thirty five or tomorrow, no matter what.

1165
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, draw could be the draw man, the

1166
01:00:57,559 --> 01:01:01,719
draw I put you put your money off the drop.

1167
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,119
We got another hour to go now that that's been

1168
01:01:04,159 --> 01:01:09,679
opened up the times, no.

1169
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:11,199
Speaker 3: One's even seeing the vision. Bro.

1170
01:01:13,639 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: Will, where can these people, since this is coming out

1171
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,360
on audio if you miss the live, will, where can

1172
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,559
these people tell their friends, colleagues, enemies to listen? Yeah?

1173
01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:25,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, as Charles said, like, if you want

1174
01:01:25,199 --> 01:01:27,519
to be in on these lives, be part of the chat,

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which thanks everybody who's been chiming in this whole live

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that's over on YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast,

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but you can listen to us afterwards whenever it's convenient

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for you. We're available on all podcast platforms. If you

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happen to listen over on Spotify or Apple podcasts, go.

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Speaker 1: Ahead, we just a little rating review. It helps us out.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, however, you you know, however you consume the show,

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you know we appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: We absolutely do. And Adam the most important job on

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this whole pod. One positive thing to send these Clippers,

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the guy who's talked him out of this game, one

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positive self out of this game, one positive thing for Clippers.

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Speaker 3: Now, the moment of truth is upon us with Kawhi Leonard.

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I think we're gonna see can he still be last

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year's version of himself? Can he still be a top

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five player in this league? It feels like it's close

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to now or ever. Just going off the history of

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the ramp up process over the last couple of years,

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it seems like he's right there at that point where

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he should be fully unleashed. Just does he still have

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that six gear or not? I think we're about to

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find out.

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Speaker 1: There we go, we are about to find out. Here's

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two a Clippers win. Hope everyone has a good rest

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of their evening, and a Saturday, and as always, let's

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go