Speaker 1: What's going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season three, episode
forty nine of Clips in Dip. We're doing a little
bit of a live paying game preview just to talk
Clippers versus Lakers. Bring your questions, bring whatever you have
in regards to the Clippers and the Lakers. I guess
I am Chuck Mockler, joined by William Updyke and Adam Osen.
We have the full crew here today. Do we want
to will how did you feel about the game last night? Adam,
you that was we're gonna get in the Clippers Lakers,
But I'm not in wasn't exactly encouraged. I'm happy we won,
but I wasn't exactly encouraged as a whole from that performance. No.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you were hoping for the Clippers to
have like an ideal tune up game against the Bulls,
this was not that. It was definitely closer than was needed.
And I mean, Adam'm sure you know more about this
than I, but I do feel like the defense that
we saw to start the season and how this Clippers
team sort of set their identity seems to be in
the rearview mirror at this during this stretch of the season.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, the last fifteen games haven't been as good.
Teams have been shooting ridiculous from three over that time
against the Clippers, so that's kind of skewed the numbers
to some extent. And I don't you know, I was
watching closely because the Bulls were going off from three
last night, as were the Clippers.
Speaker 1: Crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if either team cooled off, it was going to
be a blowout. Somebody was gonna win in lopsided fashion.
But in that third quarter they combined to go sixteen
of twenty two from three. Both teams, like it was insane,
and I was watching closely. A lot of them were
guarded pretty well, and it just didn't matter. Like Giddy's
being guarded. He went four or four from three. There
were some wild stuff in that game. James Harden obviously
hit some crazy shots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, though, and that third quarner it was like think,
I mean, the reason we won was because James Harden
had a twenty point third quarter. For the most part,
like the defense, three point shooting aside. People were pretty
upset at the defense. The points in the paint was crazy.
They had thirty against us in the first half. We
can't have the same defense tomorrow night.
Speaker 3: I think they ended up with it was it forty
eight or something like that, like that run in the
second quarter with the starters coming back in after the
second unit played really well with a mere coffee and
bogie and batoom and threw U Banks and Ben Simmons,
and then the starters came back in and kept turning
the ball over. And I thought James Harden had one
of the worst halves of basketball in a Clippers jersey
that I had seen, and completely redeemed himself the second half.
I was worried he was just so gassed. This was it.
I haven't said on Twitter, like, if he looks this tired,
I think you just have to take him out, Like,
I don't think you could have him out there, because
if guys are going to turn the ball over like
that and also not get back at all on defense,
that could be a problem. He flipped a switch. Obviously,
he dug deep and hit the biggest shot of the
ball game. But you know, I thought, outside of that
seven minute stretch to end the second quarter, the Clippers
offensively were obviously pretty darn good. I think they ended
up with like thirty three assists assisted on over seventy
percent of their main field goals. Defense was spotty at times,
but some of it was really hot shooting. Some of it.
I think the defense that was more of an issue
was the back door cuts. They were getting on them,
and they were getting them on DJ and Chris doun
To and nobody was really connected enough. But the hot
shooting carried them through. And thank God for James Harden.
Speaker 1: That's kind of the through line of the season a
little bit so far for the Clippers. We got the win.
That is what is important. Will haggle no haggle. Tomorrow
and Sunday are the two biggest games of the Clippers
season so far.
Speaker 2: I mean not in the like, I don't know that
they necessarily have to get both, but you have to split.
You have to split, or it's there's so many people
in the West. I mean, they're they're like their conference
record is already so bad that you know, I won't
necessarily necessarily say that it's too far gone, but like
they're going to turn things around against against some conference opponents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially one that is ahead of us and
has I mean, if they the thing that sucks is
do we have how many more games against Lakers. Do
we have at for this one? Oh?
Speaker 3: This is it?
Speaker 1: This is it? Yeah, so they're not going to have
the tiebreaker if they split, which is I don't want
to sound pessimistic, I see them splitting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this Lakers team, I think you can be happy
with a split. Is I guess what I'm saying, like
what I feel like one of these is a must win.
I'm not I'm not ready to say that they need
to go to and Ho or Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would like them to go to and No.
Speaker 3: I just if you split, you're not You're not catching
him in the standings. It's over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they're catching him in the standings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you win both, you could, you could there. Look,
it is probably unrealistic right now to think they're gonna
be able to win both against the Lakers, but who
knows Lakers on a back to back. I think if
the Clippers the game they have to get is Friday
and then getting a close game with the Lakers on
Sunday and see what happens.
Speaker 1: How can Yeah? I mean basically and also, yeah, you
mentioned second out of a back to back. Norm has
been elevated to questionable. So I'm not going to assume
he plays, but it's nice that he's been elevated to questionable.
I'll be curious to see how many minutes he gets
and if that effects if he plays on Sunday. But
having Norm back, the Clippers broke their losing streak without Norm,
which I think was at six games up until yesterday.
So if he can't go, things get a lot more difficult.
But it's kind of hard to look at this new
look Lakers team right, Like, you can't really look at
the stats with them and Luca. It's only been a
handful of games, a couple of like a couple of stinkers,
a couple of stinkers, a couple of not so much stinkers.
We got people. Yeah, I mean, like, so what's do
we want to talk the offense first or we want
to talk to the defense first? Because I think kind
of historically go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I just like that, like the Clippers need
to get back to that defensive identity because that, I
feel like is their only path forward. It's already going
to be really hard to slow down this team. But
I mean, this Lakers team is pretty routinely giving up
you know, one plus Uh, not that the Clippers will
necessarily get there even if they had all the opportunities,
especially without Norm Powell. But uh, they gotta slow They're
gonna slow that down and exploit that a little bit.
Speaker 3: I mean, I got some bad news, guys. The Lakers
have the number one defense last fifteen games in the league.
Speaker 1: Shoo, what are they with Luca?
Speaker 3: They've been good? I really could.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lebron feels re energized because he has Luca on
the team. That's kind of the vibes I've seen from
some Lakers fans that I that I know. But the
way to combat that, right is, we just got to
put them in motion. It's like it's the same is
when we played the MAVs. We wanted to see Luca
putting the more motion on defense. The center position, you
would think, is one that the Clippers can attack, right, Like,
the the Lakers center core is not ideal for what
they have have.
Speaker 3: They're gonna go small and play Rui at the five
a lot. Yeah, and it seems like, well, just get
to big Zoo and let him kill him. Well, they're
gonna double him, like They're gonna make the Clippers play
fast and have to make quick decisions out there with
the basketball, whether or not to shoot or pass it,
and that's where the Clippers they have to be sound.
They have to be really sharp.
Speaker 1: And we're seeing some Jeremy Mormons asking in the chat,
can Ben guard Lebron? Because you mentioned the Lakers going slow,
we got to imagine the Clippers will counter with that.
If Zuo's not working against the small ball lineup, they're
not gonna put Drew Eubanks out there to see if
that works. How are we feeling about Ben Simmons on Lebron.
Speaker 3: He's guarded him in the past, like he's not the
same guy who was in Philly. But I don't hate
it for a few minutes here and there. I do
think if you try to go small and match up
that way against the Lakers, I don't know if there's
many teams that are gonna have a lot of success
doing that. Honestly, I think like that's a tough game
to win. Yeah, like you got to impose your will.
I obviously go small at times, but sure, if you
try to do that for thirty minutes, I think hearing
it be.
Speaker 1: I mean we yeah, we can't because Batum's been out
there with Simmons and Batom one of the big helpers.
The fact that Simmons is here helps Batom have a
little more less responsibility because he is not exactly a
spring chicken anymore. Will do you think or I guess,
do we hope that in terms of like imposing their
will we get Zoo some touches early? Because there's been
a couple of games lately. Where was it the Pacers
game where it took a while for Zoo to get
his first field goal attempts in that game?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like Adam said, if he's getting doubled,
that kind of changes the game plan as far as
what he can do. And also, again, this is like
the norm ques like the norm Questionable Nation kind of
it sways a lot because with doubt that it gives
Zoo a little less space to operate. So yeah, obviously,
I mean, I feel like the answer that we always
come back to you on here is like, let's find
Zoo early in offense. Let's like, let's try to get
some easy buckets. Like we know that under either one
of these center positions, UH like that he'll be up
against I think that like I like him over Hayes
or or yeah, like I you know, I think that
that's a great matchup, but it just depends on how
they counter that and also you know what we're able
to put, well, what we're able to put around them,
And that's the same thing with Simmons, right because.
Speaker 1: The offense.
Speaker 2: I mean like I just don't know that there that
there's gonna be enough space and that they're gonna have
enough scoring in a lineup out there with Simmons with
how sort of they're going to be able to counter
that defensively for the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if we see more of a playoff
rotation quote unquote from time I louin this game and
he shortens it up because like you said at him,
maybe we go all out tomorrow to get the win,
and that means like, well, you know, it's house money
on Sunday or something like house money. Like I wonder
if we see the shortened up rotation tomorrow. And someone
pointed out in the chat too, if Bron and Luca
are available for both games, do we think one of
them sits the second night of the back to back.
It sounds like I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 3: It sounds like that restriction is off with Luca. But
let's say if it's a tight one down the stretch
against Minnesota's night and they got to play heavy minutes,
I don't think it's out of question because it seems
like with Lebron at his foot, it's also kind of
like a day to day thing with how he feels
when he wakes up in the morning. So I wouldn't
be shocked if one of them missed the game tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And I'm here for it at this point. Get us wins,
get us wins against the conference opponents and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: And if they are ready to go though, like, let's
see the Slippers team who had trouble keeping up with
the that Bulls team like able to actually pounce on
on a team on the second night of a back
to back.
Speaker 1: What uh what are we not to be too? Doom
and gloom here chat? Feel free to put yours uh
in here too. What are we most worried about from
the Clippers in this game? Cause last night we talked
about the back cuts and stuff like that. I don't
want to see Zoo having to do the thing where
he's the last line of defense because someone didn't cover
their guy in the right way, and then we see
the you know, there's an easy bucket in the paint,
and Zoo does to throw his hands up looking at
the wing who was supposed to be there to help
check the guy, or something like that, like we can't
lose We can lose points in the paint, but we
can't lose points in the paint by like more than eight.
Or I think things are bad, Adams.
Speaker 2: I think if it's one of those three I feel
like if it's one of those three point shooting nights
for the Lakers, like if we let it, if we
let a team get hot and they're not only they're
not only hitting threes, but are getting easy buckets where
they can sort of reserve some of the some of
the tougher ones and even on the second end of
a back to back, maybe not have to work as hard.
That sounds like disaster fuel for the Clippers.
Speaker 1: To make disaster fuel. Adam, What are you? What do
you worry about?
Speaker 3: I don't know if they can win if Viatzsa Zubats
doesn't play very good to great, like he's he's got
to be great with this decision making in the short role,
he's got to be great when they double a triple
team him, like what they did to Jokich last weekend.
Granted that was their super Bowl or their championship or whatever.
JJ redickt sleep for a couple of days. That was
a big game for them. They really want to measure
themselves with this new look against Denver, and they won.
And Jokich was like four or twelve or something like that.
So they were so good scrambling and rotating in that
game against the other team's big and Nikola Jokic in
this case, who's like the best ever in passing out
of those double teams and stuff, and even he got flustered.
It's like, what's gonna happen. What's gonna happen with the
visa Zubas, Like he's gonna have to make really really
fast decisions out there, because I don't know if they
can win without him on the court. If you try
to play the Lakers game and go small, I don't
know if that's a tenable situation. You might win a
minute or two, but I think over twenty minutes of
small ball or something like that, you could be in
deep trouble really quick. So the other side of it
is also if they're playing small the Lakers like in
Zoo's guarding RUI or DFS. They're gonna try to pull
them away from the basket.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Get by the Clippers and their on ball defense is
gonna have to be really good. They got to stay
in front of their man better than they did against
Chicago there night. Like they have to get back to
what Will was talking about, being an elite defensive team.
Get back to your identity. It has to art right now.
Speaker 4: I uh oh, Clipper Vlad hit me up. Maybe that's
something going on. They've just been resting up for this game. Yeah,
nothing to worry about. They've just been resting up for
this one.
Speaker 1: Metal Slug twenty six is saying in the chat, I
prefer them to be a full Lakers squad. We need
the Clips to be challenged. The Clips were challenged by
a shorthanded Bulls team yesterday, so I any team is
kind of challenging the Clippers.
Speaker 3: We all remember the Lakers last time out not having
Luca and beat them by twenty five without Luca and ad.
Speaker 2: Metal Slug though, like, can we like, let's get it,
let's get it. How about one quality win?
Speaker 1: Okay? You know I will it's been a couple of weeks.
It's been a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: How about the less quality win against a banged up
Lakers team on a back to back Friday and the
quality win against the full strength Lakers on Sunday.
Speaker 1: That's sure. Yeah, two wins. Yeah, slipper of lads in
the chat. Couple of us are going to be at
the thirty five or in Pasadena tomorrow for the game,
So come through. Let's overflow that spot. Levibeen asking is
norm playing tomorrow. Maybe he's questionable, So trending in the
right direction for sure. Let's talk Kawhi because we talked
about Zoo needing to be good tomorrow and Kawhi has
not looked like the best player on the Clippers, which
at some point he needs to get to should the
Clippers make any noise or anything like that. And Adam,
you mentioned talking you mentioned how good Jokic is at
passing out of double teams. Kawhi kind of on the
other end of the spectrum when it comes to passing
out of double teams. I have a feeling he's gonna
get blitzed pretty early if he when he brings the
ball up in the half court.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll probably try to make other guys beat him.
Lebron's been good guarding game where he was last season.
He is so big and strong. Usually why Light's going
up against smaller guys. Even though Casey p was a
good defender, like that's not a good defender for a
guy like Kawhi. H. He's got to be quicker with
the decisions. I think this is it. Like, I think
there's a good chance Kawhi could be off a minutes
restriction this weekend.
Speaker 1: Ooh okay.
Speaker 3: I was looking back to the last two years in
when he turned a corner and it was after game
seventeen for him in the twenty two to twenty three season,
and it was after game sixteen for him last season.
We're past game seventeen right now. It's just about that time,
different circumstances. It's it's not, you know, a perfect parallel
to last couple of years, but he's been at thirty
two to thirty three minutes for a little bit. Now.
I'm just thinking, is this it when they finally take
the governor off of Kawhi and we see what we
want to see, which is a guy playing top five
level again or does he just not look the same
and we're talking about Kawhi Leonard losing a step. I
think it's a moment of truth coming up here at
least in the next week.
Speaker 1: Truth moment of truth for a couple of reasons, Will
would you want Kawhi's minutes restriction to be lifted kind
of no matter how he looks, you know, Or do
you want him to because I'm kind of torn because
it's like, do I want him to look great in
thirty three minutes and then it's up to thirty six
or do we I mean it has to come off sometime?
Why not? Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, I think you know, I've been in support of
sort of how they've done this rampup thing.
Speaker 1: I think they've done it really well.
Speaker 2: You know, going back to Kawhi's statement, even like when
he was back, you know, you can't expect him to
score you know, mid twenties.
Speaker 1: Thirties right out there.
Speaker 2: But I do think that hopefully we're at a point
where you don't have to manage the minutes and it's
just a matter of getting him back into a rhythm
and getting him into like to full swing while he's
on the court. And while it might not be there
Friday at the level that we needed to be. I
do think that at this point in the re ramp up,
removing the minutes restriction is definitely a step in the
right direction because at that point, you know, like what's
holding him back is.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming, you know, uh more, just going with the.
Speaker 2: Flow of the game versus you know, him having any
concern where he's you know, holding himself back physically because
he's you know, has whatever concerns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Adam, you just want it off because he's gonna
have to get.
Speaker 3: Up there, and if he's ready, like this would be
a great time to do it, Like he might only
play eighteen more games in the season, Now, what are
you going to take it off and see what he
can do? Because our entire hopes are with Kauai being
able to get back to last year's version for the
Clippers to be a contender and make noise in the
Western Grammers playoffs, and right now they're teetering on falling
into the play in. You still want to try to
position yourself well in the regular seat it and not
just say well, we'll just wait till the playoffs start.
I don't think they can afford to do that.
Speaker 1: We've been there before too, Like, I don't think any
Clippers fan wants to yeah, see that again?
Speaker 3: So can the playoffs start now? Could they start earlier?
Could they start in a two game series against the Lakers? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I mean it kind of is. I bet we'll hear
some kind of quote in regards to it feeling, you know,
like a must win playoff type thing. Rez in the
chat is asking has this team won more than five
games in a row this year? Don't think that's been
the case. They won five in a row in November,
but I do not think they have won more than
five in a row. They have a win streak of
five and a win streak of four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and those are the longest.
Speaker 1: Those are the longest two streaks. Awesome. Chris Benavidez asked,
saying our bench needs to outscore their bench by at
least ten points or it's gonna be a rough night.
A mere coffee was phenomenal last night against the Bulls.
The slander also about a mere coffee is odd to me.
The man makes very little money in terms of what
his impact is on the team, and he's an end
of rotation guy. You know what, I mean, like his
his ceiling is is hot. I mean his floor is
pretty low. But like he's been good this year and
he's not the reason that they've lost games, you know
what I'm saying. So I hope we're gonna need a
similar game efficiency wise from a mirror tomorrow versus the Lakers.
I don't know how much opportunity is gonna get, especially
if there's you know, we're playing heavier starters minutes, but
like a big a mirror game goes a long way
tomorrow for the Clippers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they could use that. He did look good,
really aggressive with that second yearnit, especially in the first half.
I think he had fourteen points against Chicago. That was
good to see. And I think it's been a little
bit overblown with just plus minus numbers, and they have
been wonky with him. I went back month by month
and it's like one month he's like a plus sixty,
another month he's down him minus fifty. I think he's
been in a couple of bad lineup that gotten schlacked. Yeah,
for sure, it skewed the numbers a little bit. But
also I've noticed something with the mirror coffee where I
think he's starting to get a pretty bad whistle based
upon reputation, Like he's establishing a reputation of a guy
who's not a very good defender or fouls too much.
It is starting to happen more frequently, or it seems
like he gets some really ticky tac calls sometimes against
him just because reputation precedes him. I don't know that
that's a little bit worrisome to me, because I think
he's been a pretty solid defender throughout most of his
career as a Clipper.
Speaker 1: Except that one summer league game and he fell out
of a summer league game a couple of years ago. Yeah,
absolutely did well.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, we thought that mirror coffee tenure might
have been coming to it.
Speaker 1: That was a rough offseason. He bounce back great, which
is awesome. We are very happy that he is a
Clipper other than a mayor. We talked about Ben Simmons
res Is in the comments saying he to not run
these weird tiny lineups he loves so much. But to
your point, Adam, like, if the Lakers are gonna go small,
the Clippers are probably gonna counter by going small a
little bit. But is it just the three guard thing,
like if Norm plays.
Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, the Lakers are definitely gonna go small a lot.
And I think if a Viza Zubots is not working
for a couple of possessions, coach Leu will probably have
a quick trigger to get him off the court. Yeah,
and that's concerning to me, Like they got to get
it to a Viza Zubots, not in the high posts,
not where he has to put the ball on the
floor and back down his guy. They need to get
it because they're going to surround him quickly, Like it's
gotta be bam bam. Get it to Viza Zubos to
the dunker spot, get him on the left block or
right block, and he's got to put up a hook
shot as he leads the league by like sixty more
hosts the next fulsisky right away. He cannot wait for
the defense to come and double. So yeah, it's it
would be a really cerebral game. I think a big
chess match out there.
Speaker 1: We love a chess match. JJ Reddick versus Tyler. Who's
gonna be interesting. Bogden. Bogden has a chance to break
this game open for the Clippers if the shooting is there.
He made what four to threes last night, four or five,
something like that. But he's also putting the ball on
the floor. Like if you can put the ball on
the floor and kind of get that pick and roll
going with Zoo and kind of whoever's around him, Like
Bogden has a chance to buck this game up in
a good way for the Clippers. Right. Well, like you
got Bogden and Simmons out there being productive. There was
a nice little ball fake where last night where Simmons
brought the ball up Derrek Jones Junior kind of cut across.
They faked it to Derrick Jones Junior, the defense followed,
got it to Bogden wide open three he hit. Like
Bogden and Simmons need to be pluses tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it's as someone else in the
chat said, like if the Clippers bench needs to be
put Lakers bench by ten, that puts a lot of
pressure on Bogdanovich because he's, i mean, probably the guy
who's most readily able to do it out of anyone
on this bench. So yeah, a great a great game
from him would go a long way.
Speaker 1: Adam, how you feel about Bogham do you think he's
shooting is because it's been hot and cold. We've seen
him half the good games and then very quickly after
that it's been maybe not.
Speaker 3: As good all it has been extreme, But I think
his numbers now have gotten him after last night's game
right at thirty percent okay three as a Clipper, just
like he was in Atlanta all season, and that's with
a one for twelve game included there. I'm hoping what
happened last night, you know, he knocked the lid off
the rim or whatever, and he's feeling much more confident
because he hit a huge clutch three in the fourth
quarter that he had. Also, he hit two of his
four makes in the fourth quarter, and he's been a
Laker killer in the past. They need him to be again.
I'm hoping a familiar foe. We'll bring out the best
in Bogey out there. But yeah, he's also he's been
fouling a lot, and that's a little they have of
a concern.
Speaker 1: It's just I think it's a fatigue thing. He's just
getting his legs back to playing because he hadn't played
a bunch right up until the trade.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's not a great defender.
Speaker 1: He try a very good point.
Speaker 3: He's not great because he just isn't the quickest guy
out there. It's not that he isn't giving his his
all out efforts. Sometimes it's just not good enough. But
I guess this Lakers team, like they have so many
matchup problems they could pose it you Now, it's like, hey, uh,
we need our third best defender on the floor to
guard Austin Reeves. Now, It's like, damn, that's that's tough.
So I Bogue needs to have a hot game from three.
He needs to have a hot weekend from three against
the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Hot weekend from three. Yeah, that would be nice. We're
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Speaker 2: Welcome back in to clips and did we're still talking
preview Clippers a couple of very important games over this weekend.
Worst case scenario, let's let's go what I've.
Speaker 1: Been thinking about all day.
Speaker 2: Oh and two in an ugly fashion. Yeah, Adam, can
the Clippers come back from that? Can they avoid the
play in?
Speaker 3: I gotta see what Minnesota is doing tonight. Yeah, it's
gonna be very difficult. It's gonna be very difficult if
you lose both games to the Lakers, because then they
have Phoenix, and I know Phoenix has been playing miserable basketball,
Like they're gonna see the Clippers, a team they've beaten
three times this season, and they're probably gonna wake up
and they're still talented. Like, I'm not buying it, especially
if they're closer in the standings at that point. Because
the Clippers lost both in this hypothetical to the Lakers,
they have a tough schedule coming up. So yeah, I
think you have to at least get the split. It
has to be there otherwise, Yeah, you're probably falling into
the plan.
Speaker 1: People are talking about Chris Dunn in the chat. They're
mostly talking about his defense. My worst case scenario for
tomorrow is the ball is funneled to Chris Dunn and
Derek Jones Junior, and they're not able to convert on
their shots and I'm not saying convert at like an
above average percentage, you know, I mean we get will
We talked about it a couple of days ago. How
many shots Chris Dunn had against? Was that Milwaukee where
he had a good offensive game. Yeah, but the game
plan for the the team is to kind of have
him shoot the ball a lot like it. Yeah, he
put up ten or twelve shots, which is too many,
and there are people out, But like if done in
DJ and the game doesn't hinge on this, I don't
want to make it seem like that, but it really
helps if those guys are close to league average on
their shots.
Speaker 2: I just hope it doesn't come down to I mean
me too, I would yeah, same here. I just hope
it doesn't come down to that. Although yeah, like the
Lakers funneling everything to those guys is you know, a
very probable scenario. I'd rather I'd rather depend on countering
that instead of depending on like an outlier shooting performance
from either one and kind of average would be at
an at like a league average shooting night would kind
of be I would say, an overperform.
Speaker 1: But I'll take it if it happens. Obviously, I'll take it, Adam,
how are you feeling. You look like the gears are
turned a little.
Speaker 3: They both have had a couple of good offensive outputs recently.
The numbers are trending in the right way as of late.
For Chris Dunn, from the outside, I thought DJ was
really good. He had nine points in the first quarter
last night.
Speaker 1: Huge first quarter. And he was good on defense too.
He was active, he was a little bit more locked
in than some of the other guys.
Speaker 3: I'm guessing. And you look at matchups in the starting
lineup against the Lakers, should they have Luca and Lebron?
That so the last two games, Kawhi started on Lebron
to start off games. So if they do that again,
then you have Chris Dunn on Luca, DJ on Austin
Reeves and hide James Harden on Ruyachimura and have Zuwon
Jackson Hayes. That's been their starting lineup.
Speaker 1: Do you go?
Speaker 3: You could switch to Don and DJs, But I like
Luca has size on both of them. Yeah, but Done
is more of the pest. I don't know. I'm kind
of interested to see. I don't know his history with Luca.
Speaker 1: Can't have a lot of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just based only DJ's taller but more wiry. Done's
a little bit more stout but shorter, and it's a
little bit better on the perimeter on on ball guys Like,
I don't know, I don't I don't hate those matchups.
I hope it doesn't take too much out of Kauai.
But this is what's going to be demanded against a
team Mike the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I like what Jeremy Mormon's saying where he says,
worst case scenario, Luca takes Zoo out of the game.
What you've seen before, Zoo's got a lot better when
he's had to be on that island against Luca. But
if Luca's just hitting those shots, he's kind of have
to live with it. But that reaction from TYLERU where
he takes him out, then it's kind of like we're
almost in. Let's see how the small ball lineup works,
because what's been our best small ball lineup this year? Right? Like,
But it's not like there's a quote unquote death f
line up that we all have been clamoring for because
it was great in a short period, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3: And the difference back when when Luke used to do
that with Dallas against uh Zobas, like they would still
have often a big on the floor and the Clippers
would just go small so they could switch everything. And
now it's like Luca's gonna be doing that while his
team is going small a lot. Uh yeah, it's like
you have to make them play your style. Like it's
it's two styles clashing in a game like this, and
for most teams against the Lakers now it's like, uh,
like Dallas tried, they went small. They kind of had
to because all their guys are banged up, and like
they couldn't win that game even with a great game
from Kyrie Irving, even with Klay Thompson going off in
the fourth quarter against Lakers like uh Denver, I mean,
you can't say they're going small because Joki is playing
forty minutes. But like when Charlotte beat them Mark Williams
wasn't that game late and they were targeting Luca a ton.
They put him in the action in the fourth quarter
over and over over again, which you know shouldn't be
a brilliant game plan, but they execute it so well
and LaMelo was just absolutely in his bag and that
was kind of like their championship beating the lukash They
toldally got up for that game and LaMelo made all
those big shots. But to what you were saying earlier,
I saw the notes too. It's like, yeah, you got
to make them work. You got to make Luka Dancis
work defensively.
Speaker 1: Adam with a subtle ad that he did see the
notes earlier. Thank you, Adam.
Speaker 5: Oh well, and we I mean, like we look back
to this last matchup, I have, uh, one of the
worst losses of the season.
Speaker 1: I'd say probably that one. Definitely that one is right
up there. Yeah uh.
Speaker 2: And you know, if you're looking at it as you know,
that team plus Luca seems like a pretty impossible feed.
But that was one of James Harden's worst games, if
not like his worst game of the season. So a
Clippers team with a more healthy Kawhi without a minute's
restriction and James Harden because he I mean, he had
not a sense but you know, offensively, he effectively did
not have the impact that he normally has. Norm was
the only guy who cracked twenty. You know that I'm
liking it a little more. I'm talking myself into this.
Speaker 1: You are, but you yeah, like healthy Norm. It all
hinges on how much Norm can play. To me, like,
Kawhi is obviously important, Adam, you had a good tweet
before the last game wondering if Kawhi's was going to
be limited after the foot thing. Minutes wise, didn't seem
like he was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people were mad he didn't play the last three
minutes of the fourth, but they weren't going to play
in the entire fourth quarter. I get you may have
wanted him to come in at the eight minute mark
or something like that, but it's like they were trying
to go for the kill early in the fourth. It
made some sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, doing nothing is saying in the comments, you know,
he thinks that they excuse me, think that the Clippers
are slow with Kawhi being back, but that might help
because the Lakers play slow. The Lakers are twenty first
in pace. But this is not the same Lakers team.
They didn't have Luka Donchitz for the first part of
and like it's hard to take away. I was trying
to look at some stats from the you know, the
Luca games, but it's just too small of a sample size.
We know what Luca can do on the break. What
did Lebron say he's a natural wide receiver. Luca is
a quarterback. Like, it's not going to be a super
slow Lakers team. I don't think.
Speaker 3: No. They're fifth in pace their last eight games, so
all the Luca games in there, plus a few without him,
like they've been playing much faster. So stylistically, yeah, it's
a completely different matchup.
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We did dips last off season. Now we do SIPs
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we will be at the thirty five or tomorrow just
hanging out for the game. But yeah, the sponsored post,
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a sip, Adam, what are you having a sip of?
That looks like a water bottle that doesn't have water
in it.
Speaker 3: It's got some major water down pre workout drink from
earlier that has a little bit of caffeine to get
me going.
Speaker 1: Okay, hell yeah. Yeah. So we talked what's what's best
case scenario? Obviously best case scenarios two and oh and
Kawhi looks like a world beater? Is there really anything else?
Speaker 3: Number two gets them to two and o This weekend.
Speaker 1: The Harden minnesot is going to be interesting because we
saw him play forty a couple games agoing TYLERU blamed
himself for Harden being out there for that long, and
it's like, sure, okay, well, yeah, you manage those minutes.
Speaker 3: We might.
Speaker 1: I mean, thank you. We might need forty from him tomorrow,
a good forty.
Speaker 3: Like I don't want to have to rely on unsustainable
stuff to beat teams. But there's twenty four games left.
You need victories. You need to stay out of the
play in. Yeah, it's like cold Harden have one big
game in Kauhi, have one big game this weekend, and
that's like those that's the scenario of them possibly going
to and out.
Speaker 1: And I still think you got Norman there. Yeah, I
mean Norm has to have it at least an average
game for his averages. He's the highest scoring guy in
the time.
Speaker 3: I still think this is all about Zoo, Like, if
Zoo can't stay on the floor, if they really try
to match the Lakers going small, I I'm scared. I'm
talking myself out of this matchup.
Speaker 1: What's been their free throw disparity since they've had Luca,
because we all have seen the graphs of how many
more free throws they get, YadA, YadA, YadA. I feel
like Adam's looking that up right now. But if if
it's not been trending, well, I'm worried for Zoo because
Zoo gets a Zoo doesn't get a wist on the
offensive end, and sometimes he gets the bad whist on
the defensive end. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in really foul trouble. That's that might be curtains.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if he's in foul trouble in the
first half, we're relying on Drew Eubanks to be out there. Like,
no disrespect to Drew Banks, but he's not as good
of a defender as Zoo.
Speaker 3: Lakers are seventh the last eight games, so uh, they've
getten to the line. They're attempting twenty four or free
throw attempts per game, okay, and the Clippers have not
been defending without voiling very well overall. Last night was
kind of the exception And actually I think did Chicago
go like six of eleven like that kind of really
hurt them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was something bad. Yeah, what are the Clippers
at these last couple of games for free throws?
Speaker 3: Uh? Okay? So last eight games from the Lakers was
a twenty four point one. Last eight games from the
Clippers twenty three point one.
Speaker 1: Okay. I mean if the if the free throw disparity,
which this might be the Yeah, this might be the
thing that won't happen at all. If the free throw
disparity is the same for the two teams, I'm feeling
a lot better. There's so many people in the chat
worried about backdoor cuts from last game. The Bulls have
given Clippers fans PTSD about backdoor cuts. It's just an
everything there was. There was a couple of moments last
game where Kawhi wasn't getting super getting back super quick
on the break. A mirror was Gill tav It a
couple times too.
Speaker 3: There were a lot of ever plays.
Speaker 1: Yes, and if they do that, Adam, you talked about
imposing their will to begin with, If they're doing the
opposite of that, and we have to like being down
ten in the first. I know it's it's a new league, whatever, whatever,
Being down ten in the first feels really rough to
think about tomorrow. Will, how are you feeling if they're
deck they were because they were up thirteen on the
balls and kind of barely eat that one out well.
Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, I've like the Clippers starts have been a
lot better this year. They have struggled to maintain a
lot of those leads. It feels like, but yeah, I
mean no, I don't want to start out down ten?
Speaker 1: Do I have? I have the option here? My option
would be no, Your option would be no. Okay, just
the level set. Will does not want the Clippers to
start the game minus ten.
Speaker 3: What is your guys' best small ball lineup? When the
Clippers have to do it, and they will have to
do it, what's your ideal small ball lineup against it
will be at times they're gonna have Luca Austin, Lebron
ruey Dfs out there. Who's your five going against that?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go jam done, Norm Kawhi Simmons, Wait, sorry,
go ahead, hard and done.
Speaker 2: Harnin done, Norm Kawhi Simmons.
Speaker 1: The shooting's a little rough, but I like the defense.
Coau I's been hitting from three, He's not really been
shooting well from kind of anywhere else that is in
a layout. Yeah, but I like the But you just
have to you have to do the same things.
Speaker 2: Like it's like the aggressive Zoo game plan that Adam
alluded to earlier, like keep keeping Simmons around the rim.
Uh and just quick decision making.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I'm gonna go. Man, maybe I'm leaning
too heavy into offense on that one. I think we're
all obviously going Simmons at the five. I'm gonna go
Batum at the four. Oh, I like that. I'm gonna
go Batune at the four, Simmons at the five because
that helps with some shooting, Kawhi at the three, and
then hard Powell hardened norm the defense in the backcourt
feels a little Then you gotta put a little more
pressure on Kawhi, Nico and Ben Simmons. But that feels
like a lineup when I was kind of talking about
playoff lineups that we would see and if any game
to give it a run, right, Like, I'm not sure
if we've seen that lineup yet that would probably be mine. Yeah,
and I think it's a really good lineup and that
Tyler should play it and give me credit in the
post game if it works well. Adam, what's your ideal
small ball five?
Speaker 3: No, I'd probably go with what you just said exactly that,
because you got decent size out there with Simmons Batoom,
and that's a pretty big small ball front line.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have enough shooting with Kawi, with Nor
with James Harden. Actually the toombs now like just under
forty percent from three on the season, he's been better.
Speaker 1: I'd get a little worried about how much responsibility. But
Tom would be put on defense because I know he's
a good defender, but not that he'd be targeted or something,
but he's It would have to be I think short
stints for this lineup for it to be fully affected.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking like three to four minutes.
Speaker 2: Like Adam said, I mean, they just can't lean too
much into the small ball lineup. It's just not it's
not going to be that sustainable for this.
Speaker 1: It's not the team's game either, Like we're not we're
not wing stop. We've always been in Olive Garden. That's
what this team has been guard And for those of
you who missed.
Speaker 3: Hey, I could be wrong. Maybe Ben Simmons at the
five is the difference maker against the Lakers. What does
he have? Twenty assists to two turnovers like he was Yeah,
he led them in assist againt Chicago. He had to
eat as he was incredible with some of those passes.
Speaker 1: Is it weird to maybe another small ball? I hope
we could see it would be that same one, but
take out Norm and put Bogden in, because that's not
saying they're interchangeable obviously, but then you have a bigger
ish small ball lineup. His passing isn't the worst. He
can put it on the floor, like.
Speaker 3: I honestly smaller. I honestly think though even as smaller size,
Norm is probably a better defender than Bogey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're probably right on that. I don't
safety well too.
Speaker 2: Yeah yea both getting some defensive love in the chat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yes, I agree with this, shar Thank you
for thank you for posting this. Harden and Powell are
playing far better d this season with JVG coach ump.
Once Bogden gets a couple of weeks of the JVG.
That's all he's been missing. Man. Yeah, I think we'll
be okay. We're gonna do one more quick audio break.
Sorry Adam, but this one's going along, so we're gonna
keep We need to keep the lights.
Speaker 3: On over here.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Cliffs and Dip. I'm at a Maslin
We get the live for you guys. The Big three
is here with Chuck Mockler and will Updyke and the
more I think about it with this Lakers team, and
it's kind of been like this since the Mark Williams
trade got mixed. It's just with the Lakers. How do
you beat them with your size? How are you able
to exploit that obvious weakness that the Lakers do have,
like them not being able to get that center this
season may have saved us from having to see a
Lakers championship. I'm not saying it's completely off the table,
because look, and Lebron are that special, but that if
they don't win it, that's gonna probably be the reason why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk to some of light Lakers if you don't
think they'll win the championship this year. Yeah, the center thing,
how do I mean? Because we haven't really talked about
Derek Jones Junior. I only talked about hoping he would
be league average shooting from outside for these two games.
But if we can get him out running right like,
there are guys who in transition can make life easier
for the Clippers, and Derek Jones Junior is one of
those guys. We got another ask. If Norm Powell is
playing tomorrow, he's questionable. We'll find out, let's really hope.
So what's your best guess, Joe on Powell playing tomorrow?
Sure the injury, Tyler's gonna say sure. When I asked
if I can't remember, Yeah, if we get it, I
can't remember. The man will be starting? Will do you
want to see the So let's say Norm is playing
you I'm assuming, based on your comments about the multi
guard lineups, you want to see Derek Jones Junior in
the starting line up, obviously over Chris Done. If Norm
is healthy. I think this might be I think this
might be one for this might be one for done,
one for done. Okay, all right, that's fair. I think
I need the size to start it off. Adam, where
are you break this tie? Break this blood feud? I
like Luca and Jail early. Okay, I'm not. I mean
I can't argue with that.
Speaker 3: If Norman is back, is it done or is it DJ?
I think Coach lou would go with done.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: He just playing not exactly heavy minutes recently, like he's
kind of gotten lost in the shuffle of times where
he's only playing like twenty minutes some nights, which seems
a little bit odd. I was listening to a lot of
jam earlier. Bring this up too, And I think he
has more faith in Chris Dunn as just being that
disruptor because he is and he's had like two of
the greatest perimeter defensive games I've seen in my lifetime recently.
Speaker 1: And he's just a guard just by nature of being
a guard.
Speaker 3: There's that, But he can guard up, he can guard,
he can guard Lebron some, he can guard Lucas some,
he can guard Austin Reeves like you have those guys
are all lead with the ball in their hands. Like
Austin Reeves has been really special the last couple of months.
It's annoying. It is really frustrating. He's starting to get
to a really good player. Yeah, I think it will
be done. If if that decision has to be made, well,
I have an idiot.
Speaker 1: Looks like it's gonna be Christial in the starting lineup.
Speaker 3: Go the other way.
Speaker 2: I mean, this would be, like, you know, this would
be the time if he is fighting for more rotation
minutes for der Jones Jior to have a standout game
even if he's not in the start lineup, in the
minutes that he plays, because he does bring well, he
brings a hint of size. He's not, you know, physically
the largest guy, but uh, you know, the vibe is that, you.
Speaker 3: Know, actually considering his history with Dallas, with DJ and
how many times he mashed up against Luca in practice,
maybe it is DJ. He knows them, he knows Luca
very well. I don't know what Chris done in his
past history, how many times he's mashed up against Luca.
I don't know.
Speaker 1: Tell little he's been in the league. I just can't
imagine there's.
Speaker 3: Like injured bad teams. He Actually I could totally see
DJ because of that, he has the familiarity on his side.
Speaker 1: I like this point from Jeremy Mormon in the chat,
Chris Done is a better player until Kawhi becomes a
top five player. Then Derek Jones fits better, which I
kind of is gonna be more responsible in Kauhi. Derek
Jones off the bench is interesting too, because then you
have Derek Jones, Ben Simmons, Boggden coming off the bench.
It's not a bad three guys to be kind of
the first three off the bench to help Tyloo with
you know whatever we're going to see small ball wise.
Speaker 3: Either way, those are two guys in a decision that honestly,
I don't worry that much about. Like, I feel comfortable
either way, whether it's DJ, whether it's Done. Yeah, I
love how both of them played all season long, grand
scheme of things.
Speaker 1: If you've listened to the show, you know that I
kind of hate it in the long run, but for tomorrow, yes,
whatever it takes to get the dub, because we got
to figure the shit out before the playoffs start.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm with you, I don't I don't love
the rotating starting lineup, but I mean, you know, Adam
referred to this being a cerebral game, and like sort
of with that, I think having a little bit more
versatility and optionality isn't necessarily a bad thing in terms
of being able to throw out some some different defensive
looks out there.
Speaker 3: You know, we talk about all of these things, but
maybe the most imporant thing is still just because Jeremy
Moorem brought it up and it's been on my mind
all day, is Kawhi gonna get back to being a
top five player? Because if he's not this weekend, if
he's not playing like Lisa at an all star level,
yeah they might, they might go oh and two against
the Lakers. This is this is really his time. And
I was looking up some of the numbers and I
don't know if this is a good thing or a
bad thing, but the area that he's missing in is
actually the mid range right now, it's the mid range
that is the part of his game that's being left out.
Speaker 2: Which we have seen previously, like in other seasons.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's like, yeah, he's one of the greatest i'd
say mid range shot makers ever. Like he's so good.
He's He's the exception to the analytics rule of actually
you want to range shots when it comes to Kawhi.
He's like forty seven percent for his career from ten
to sixteen feet out. That is elite, like people think
Carmelo Anthony Oh mid range. Carmelo's unstoppable. He is at
forty one percent in that area. Kobe I thinks I
at forty four percent. Kawhi is an assassin there and
the shot. They haven't been going to it much. They
haven't been setting him up much there, and I can't
help but think maybe this is intentional and they're just
not fully unleashing him in that area because that's what
he does. That is Kawhi. That's the reason. Recently the
last nine games, she's shooting better from three than from two.
Like his two point shots. His three point shot is there.
He's shooting like forty seven percent from three to the
last nine games. I'm about forty two attempts, and that's
good because his legs are there from for the long ball,
that's usually a good sign. So get him into the
mid range.
Speaker 1: More sergery of Martinez saying, I've been wondering if he's
swimming down his effects, his usually lethal mid range shots.
I don't know. We saw him slim down as a
season went on last year and things were elite for
sixty five games.
Speaker 3: He's honestly not taking me because over the last nine
game he's only averaging three per game within eight to
sixteen feet. Last year he was over five per game
in that area with Paul George on the team taking
shots like he should be taking more. And some of
this is the minutes, but I don't think he's been
nearly aggressive enough or been featured well enough so far,
especially over the last nine games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uncanny CFP isn't ruining your team you anymore? I'll
take that. That is nice. Funny that he stopped the podcast.
Now he was like, one, lock this shit in.
Speaker 3: That is pretty insane, Darde, it's time to get ready
for the championship run. We're twelve games under Rye trick.
Speaker 2: Like now, also, like that's so ball George, Like, now, dude,
now is the time to lock in?
Speaker 1: Finally, Great, it's not gonna be that long of a
break for the podcast pe podcast Like, it's not like
there's not that many games. Yeah, if you're an avid listener,
don't worry.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be You'll have a summer full of podcasts.
Speaker 1: They do one a week. I guess the other part like, anyway,
we're not here to talk about Paul George. We never
have to talk about him again, all right. The most
I like what Liza is saying. I hope we are.
We're really gonna get hot at the end of the
regular season. I hope that too, because there's sixteen games
in March that we gotta go sixteen of the remaining
twenty four. Yeah, Adam, who is your player of the
game for Friday and Sunday? And I think before we
make the picks, because these games are so important, can
we choose one of the pre Can we go Dave
Pingalore style and choose whoever we want? You these player
of the game love Pingalore, but picking James Hardener Kwhi
Leonard to be your player the game? Come on? So
we're everyone's on that. We're going ping rule Pingalore rules.
Everyone's on the table. Yes, okay, Adam, who is your
pick for player of the most important game standing wise?
If the Clippers want to pass the Lakers.
Speaker 3: Well, the guy who I think is the biggest X
factor for them to get wins against the Lakers is
gonna be Big Zoo, So I gotta go with him.
I don't know if it works out that way, but
if they're going to win and have a chance to
win both, Big Zoo is gonna have to be great
this weekend?
Speaker 1: All right? Will your pick for the most important player
of the games? Remember it's for both. We don't have
an easy pick a player of the game thing here
at clips and did we make it difficult for ourselves
by usually removing every single star player and picking over
multiple games. Will who's your pick?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Kawhi if the minutes restriction is off.
Like we've talked about this a little bit, you know,
we haven't seen sort of the sustained greatness obviously that
we got last season. If he was able to put
together two back to back games obviously not you know,
not a back to back, but two games, yeah, two
games in succession where he was looking we were getting
at least a glimmer of of where we know he
can be or has been.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a lot better. I'm feeling a lot better. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he had like an eleven point performance last time.
Out is you know, it's fine, okay.
Speaker 1: I So Sergio Martinez askeding, what about the Laker killer Bogdanovic?
That would be awesome. If Bogden has like two games
where he puts up like twenty points off the bench,
that would be great.
Speaker 3: Traditional rules. I was gonna go with Bogie.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, well traditional eclips and player of the game rules.
I'm gonna go, And this is probably going to be
a stupid pick. I'm going the player of the game
needs to be whoever. I guess it's kind of an
Adam's line. Whoever's playing the five when Zoo's off the floor.
If if Simmons has a bad game, you Banks is
probably gonna get some minutes at some point. I think
I don't think he's going small or Zoo, because then
we're getting into kind of a lot of small ball minutes.
I'm not saying he should, but you know what I'm saying, like, wait,
are we counting Ben as small ball? Whoever? Yeah?
Speaker 3: As a no for me, dog, but I think this
weekend all weekend, yeah, in two two.
Speaker 1: So whoever's playing the center when Zoo is off the
floor has to be like they can't we can't be
bad with them out there or things are things are
going poorly? Oh yeah, I think for the duode all right,
and we're all picking two and O right, no question
in our mind. So I'm saying to Chuck, just take
the field. Yes, yeah, I did take the field. Now,
if I had to pick one player, I don't want
to pick Norm because we've already that would be the
three guys.
Speaker 2: James Harny turning it around for him not a great
outing would be nice.
Speaker 3: And well.
Speaker 1: And like you said, the last time on the Lakers
was one of his worst games of the year, so
hardened having.
Speaker 2: In a deficient I mean, realistically, like three of these
guys are gonna have to have good games, like like Reeves, Yeah, Reeves,
Luca and Lebron are all gonna be over twenty Ruey,
I mean in his new role as like you know,
twenty plus around twenty ish a game like it's.
Speaker 1: It's it's a tall order. It's a tall order. Yeah,
it's it is. And I hope Tylo has a good
couple of games. He's had good games for the most
part this season. There hasn't been a lot of games
where you go, what the hell are we doing out
there other than Simmons Zoo. I hope that doesn't happen.
Sure other than Simmons Zoo. Which, Hey, that rake is
on the ground. Do you think if I step on
it it'll hit me in the face. That's kind of
how the zoo bois. It's maybe it'll work for us.
There is someone on our channel, and maybe because I
have to translate it from French who keeps talking about
how uh zuod is like isn't as good as Mobambo?
Speaker 3: I get that guy too, and it's like the same
message I've cross checked. I think it's a bot. I
don't think it's real. I think it's Ai. I hope
it's Ai.
Speaker 1: Yeah, JJ, the boy is saying Kawhi dropping thirty tomorrow.
I can feel it in my knees. Get your knees checked, man, Yes,
that's try.
Speaker 3: To make a joke about Kawhi and come on, man,
I don't know.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it though. All right, Well that about wraps
it up. Here's to the Clippers winning both of these games.
Here's to them splitting them at the very least. Probably
no postgame live tomorrow, probably one on Sunday though we'll
just be chilling. Yeah, we'll see what happens. We'll have
a full pod for y'all on Monday to talk whatever
the hell happens. You know that Adam Oslin has you
covered over on Clippers Talk. Maybe we'll be on the
radio after one of these games. Who knows. Last time
we were at a bar and did the post game
after was one of the lower moments of Clippers history
because PJ. Tucker took more shots than Paul George's.
Speaker 3: Let's book it now, you guys, come on from the
thirty five or tomorrow, no matter what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, draw could be the draw man, the
draw I put you put your money off the drop.
We got another hour to go now that that's been
opened up the times, no.
Speaker 3: One's even seeing the vision. Bro.
Speaker 1: Will, where can these people, since this is coming out
on audio if you miss the live, will, where can
these people tell their friends, colleagues, enemies to listen? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, as Charles said, like, if you want
to be in on these lives, be part of the chat,
which thanks everybody who's been chiming in this whole live
that's over on YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast,
but you can listen to us afterwards whenever it's convenient
for you. We're available on all podcast platforms. If you
happen to listen over on Spotify or Apple podcasts, go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, we just a little rating review. It helps us out.
Speaker 2: But yeah, however, you you know, however you consume the show,
you know we appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We absolutely do. And Adam the most important job on
this whole pod. One positive thing to send these Clippers,
the guy who's talked him out of this game, one
positive self out of this game, one positive thing for Clippers.
Speaker 3: Now, the moment of truth is upon us with Kawhi Leonard.
I think we're gonna see can he still be last
year's version of himself? Can he still be a top
five player in this league? It feels like it's close
to now or ever. Just going off the history of
the ramp up process over the last couple of years,
it seems like he's right there at that point where
he should be fully unleashed. Just does he still have
that six gear or not? I think we're about to
find out.
Speaker 1: There we go, we are about to find out. Here's
two a Clippers win. Hope everyone has a good rest
of their evening, and a Saturday, and as always, let's
go