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<v Speaker 1>For decades, people have disappeared in the woods without a trace.

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<v Speaker 1>Some blame wild animals, others whisper of creatures the world

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<v Speaker 1>refuses to believe in. But those who have survived they

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<v Speaker 1>know the truth. Welcome to Backwoods Bigfoot Stories, where we

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<v Speaker 1>share real encounters with the things lurking in the darkness Bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 1>dog man, UFOs, and creatures that defy explanation. Some make

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<v Speaker 1>it out, others aren't so lucky. Are you ready, because

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<v Speaker 1>once you hear these stories, you'll never walk in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods alone again. So grab your flashlight, stay close, and

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<v Speaker 1>remember some things in the woods don't want to be found.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit that follow or subscribe button, turn on auto downloads,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's head off into the woods if you dare.

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<v Speaker 1>On the morning of December twentieth, eighteen seventy nine, a

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<v Speaker 1>cree trapper named swift Runner stood on a scaffold in

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<v Speaker 1>Alberta and waited in the cold because the hangman had

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<v Speaker 1>forgotten the straps and had to go back for them.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd already confessed, he'd already walked the police out to

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<v Speaker 1>a clearing in the bush and shown them what was

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<v Speaker 1>left of his family. His explanation never changed through four

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<v Speaker 1>months of custody. Something came into him that winter, and

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<v Speaker 1>it made him hungry in a way that food couldn't answer.

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<v Speaker 1>The men who tried him didn't believe in that thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and the men who guarded him did, and both groups agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>On the physical facts. There was a camp twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>miles from a post that was handing out rations. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a cooking pot, and there were bones cracked open

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<v Speaker 1>at the ends. And there was one man who walked

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<v Speaker 1>out of those woods in the spring heavier than he

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<v Speaker 1>went in, go north out of Duluth in January, and

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<v Speaker 1>the state began subtracting things from the landscape until there's

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<v Speaker 1>very little left to look at. The traffic thens first,

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<v Speaker 1>then the towns, which reduced to a rhythm of gas

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<v Speaker 1>station and church and bar with twenty minutes of nothing

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<v Speaker 1>between them. The hardwoods have already dropped everything they had,

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<v Speaker 1>so the color goes next. And after that you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at jack pine and black spruce and tamarack standing dead,

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<v Speaker 1>looking in the cold, which they aren't. Three million acres

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<v Speaker 1>of national forests cover the top third of this state,

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<v Speaker 1>and inside the superior there's a piece of country larger

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<v Speaker 1>than a million acres where the law won't let you

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<v Speaker 1>run a motor. Add the state land and the county land,

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<v Speaker 1>and the tribal land, and the peat bog that nobody

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<v Speaker 1>ever found a use for, and you've arranged a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of North America where a person on foot in February

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<v Speaker 1>is genuinely alone in a way that's difficult to accomplish

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere else. In the lower forty eight. The record low

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<v Speaker 1>here was sixty below, set at Tower in February of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six, and international falls went to the trouble

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<v Speaker 1>of trademarking the phrase ice box of the nation. At

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<v Speaker 1>forty below, the exposed skin on your face begins taking damage.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside of ten minutes, steel turns brittle enough to snap,

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<v Speaker 1>diesel thickens into jelly in the tank, and the moisture

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<v Speaker 1>in your breath crystallizes in front of your face with

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<v Speaker 1>a faint hiss that Arctic peoples have their own words for.

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<v Speaker 1>The cold isn't the part that gets people, though. What

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<v Speaker 1>gets people is what the cold does to sound. At

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<v Speaker 1>that temperature, the insects are gone, and the frogs are gone,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of the birds have left for the season.

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<v Speaker 1>The leaves came down months ago, so there's nothing left

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<v Speaker 1>on the branches for the wind to move, and on

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<v Speaker 1>a still night, the wind itself lies down. What remains

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<v Speaker 1>isn't silence in the ordinary sense, because ordinary silence still

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<v Speaker 1>has a floor of small noises underneath it. This is

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<v Speaker 1>closer to a pressure against the ear, an absence you

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<v Speaker 1>can feel physically, and it does something to a person's

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<v Speaker 1>hearing that anybody who stood in it will describe the

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<v Speaker 1>same way. Then a tree cracks somewhere out in the dark,

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<v Speaker 1>hard and flat, like a rifle shot, which is nothing

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<v Speaker 1>more than the sap freezing and splitting the trunk from

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<v Speaker 1>the inside, and every single person who's ever stood in

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<v Speaker 1>that turns toward the sound before they've decided to. That

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<v Speaker 1>reflex is where this whole subject begins. And the people

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<v Speaker 1>who lived in this country for thousands of years before

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<v Speaker 1>us built something enormous on top of it. The Windigo

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't belong in a cryptid roundup. It comes out of

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<v Speaker 1>the traditions of living Algonquian speaking peoples, and in northern

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota that means primarily the Anishinabe, the people also called

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<v Speaker 1>Ojibwe or Chippewa, who have seven federally recognized nations inside

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<v Speaker 1>this state at Red Lake, White Earth, Leech Lake, bois Fort,

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<v Speaker 1>Grand Portage, Fondu Loc, and Millilocks. Those are governments with

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<v Speaker 1>citizens who are alive right now, and the being we're

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<v Speaker 1>discussing is part of a body of teaching that some

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<v Speaker 1>of those citizens take entirely seriously. What the old accounts

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<v Speaker 1>described bears almost no resemblance to what we see today.

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<v Speaker 1>Basil Johnston, the Ajibwe writer who spent his life putting

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<v Speaker 1>this material into English so that it would survive, described

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<v Speaker 1>something starving rather than something bloated. The skin is drawn

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<v Speaker 1>tight over the bones, and the complexion has gone the

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<v Speaker 1>gray of a corpse. The eyes have sunk back into

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<v Speaker 1>the sockets. The lips are ragged and bloody because the

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<v Speaker 1>thing has been chewing them. The flesh is breaking down

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<v Speaker 1>while it walks, and the smell of that moves with it.

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<v Speaker 1>There are no antlers in any of it. The antlered

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<v Speaker 1>deer skull that appears on merchandise and in horror films

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<v Speaker 1>and in a certain very popular survival video game came

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<v Speaker 1>out of concept art produced within the last twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's almost completely buried the older description in the

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<v Speaker 1>public imagination, which is a shame because what's underneath the

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<v Speaker 1>antlers is considerably worse. The reason it's worse comes down

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<v Speaker 1>to how the thing is built. This is a monster

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<v Speaker 1>whose entire nature is hunger, and rather than making it fat,

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<v Speaker 1>the tradition made it a skeleton. A number of Ojibwe

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<v Speaker 1>and cretellings add a detail that locks the whole idea

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<v Speaker 1>into place, which is that it grows in proportion to

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it consumes. It kills a man and becomes larger

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<v Speaker 1>by exactly the amount that man would have satisfied. The

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<v Speaker 1>ratio never improves, and the arithmetic never breaks in its favor.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never one bite closer to full than it was

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<v Speaker 1>when it started, and it will never be for as

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<v Speaker 1>long as it exists. The part of the teaching that

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<v Speaker 1>changes how those woods feel at night is that the

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<v Speaker 1>wind to go isn't only something out there in the timber.

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<v Speaker 1>It is something A person can become starve long enough

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<v Speaker 1>in a closed camp in February, put yourself ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>the people around you. Often enough, eat the wrong thing

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<v Speaker 1>when there's nothing else, And the tradition holds that you're

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<v Speaker 1>already walking that road, and the road runs one direction

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<v Speaker 1>only nobody in that country has ever been afraid of

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<v Speaker 1>a costume. What they were afraid of was a process,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'd watched it work. The oldest complaint out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Northern Woods, older than any written record of it,

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<v Speaker 1>is that something out there knows your name. Ray ran

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<v Speaker 1>a trap line in Kochichin County for the better part

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty years, and the February that ended his use

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<v Speaker 1>of one particular section came somewhere in the middle nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>He was working by snowshoe, about four miles in from

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<v Speaker 1>the nearest road, on a line nobody ran but him.

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<v Speaker 1>When somebody said his name out through the spruce. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't shouted. It arrived at the volume of a man

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<v Speaker 1>standing one hundred yards off talking to someone next to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and after a few seconds it came again. Ray answered

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<v Speaker 1>out loud, and he was already moving toward it before

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<v Speaker 1>any part of his brain had signed off on that decision.

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<v Speaker 1>He covered forty yards through knee deep snow before he

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<v Speaker 1>stopped because a question had finally caught up to him,

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<v Speaker 1>and the question was who out here could possibly know

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<v Speaker 1>his name. He turned around, finished his sets in the dark,

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<v Speaker 1>and never worked that section of line and again in

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<v Speaker 1>the remaining years he trapped. Marlus grew up outside Black

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<v Speaker 1>Duck and was nineteen the January she cut the corner

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<v Speaker 1>of a tamarack swamp on a shortcut she'd been using

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<v Speaker 1>since she was small enough to need help over the fence.

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<v Speaker 1>Somewhere ahead of her in the tamarak, a child was crying.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't screaming, but the worn out, hitching sound a

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<v Speaker 1>kid makes after they've been at it a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and a running out of air, and Marley's went in

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<v Speaker 1>after it without hesitating. She got sixty yards before the

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<v Speaker 1>ground softened under the snow and she had to start

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<v Speaker 1>choosing her footing. And in all that distance, the crying

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<v Speaker 1>never came one foot closer. It held the same volume

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<v Speaker 1>and the same bearing ahead of her the entire time,

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<v Speaker 1>and when she moved, it moved. She stopped walking, and

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<v Speaker 1>it cried for another ten seconds and then quit. In

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of a breath. She backed out of that swamp,

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<v Speaker 1>facing the direction she'd come from. She's in her sixties now,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's never used the shortcut since. Two men named

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<v Speaker 1>Dale and Ron trapped together up near Little Fork through

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties and theirs is the account that gives me

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<v Speaker 1>the most difficulty, Because there were two of them and

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<v Speaker 1>four inches of new snow on the ground. They'd split

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<v Speaker 1>it a fork and were working parallel sets a quarter

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<v Speaker 1>mile apart when Dale heard his brother calling him and

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<v Speaker 1>started over, and Ron heard Dale calling him and did

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<v Speaker 1>the same. They met in the middle of the timber

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<v Speaker 1>and stood there, asking each other what the matter was.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they looked down at the ground, which held

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<v Speaker 1>nothing at all in any direction except the two trails

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<v Speaker 1>they'd just made walking in. They pulled the line and

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<v Speaker 1>went home a day early. It wasn't two men hearing

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<v Speaker 1>one sound out in that timber. It was two men,

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<v Speaker 1>each hearing a different name and a voice each of

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<v Speaker 1>them had known his whole life. They spent every Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>break of her childhood at a family cabin on the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Fork River, which meant long, empty days with very

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<v Speaker 1>little to do outdoors. And she was eleven the winter

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<v Speaker 1>somebody started calling her in from the yard. It was

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<v Speaker 1>her mother's voice coming from the direction of the cabin,

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<v Speaker 1>using her name, telling her to come inside. And it

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<v Speaker 1>happened twice in a single week. Both times she went in,

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<v Speaker 1>and both times her mother was sitting at the table

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<v Speaker 1>with a book and hadn't spoken. The second time, her

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<v Speaker 1>mother put the book down and asked exactly where in

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<v Speaker 1>the yard Fay had been standing, and then went out

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<v Speaker 1>and stood in that spot herself for a while with

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<v Speaker 1>her arms crossed. Fay watched her through the window. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>was ever said about it afterward, and the family kept

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<v Speaker 1>going out there every December until the place was sold.

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<v Speaker 1>She's in her fifties now with the family of her own,

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<v Speaker 1>and what she will point out is that she wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>frightened at the time, not once, because it was her

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<v Speaker 1>mother's voice and she was eleven years old. The fear

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<v Speaker 1>showed up about thirty years late, and it hasn't gone

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere since. Joel snowmobiles out of the Bamigi area and

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to him happened inside a wall of engine

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<v Speaker 1>noise rather than in the silence where these things usually arrive.

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<v Speaker 1>He was running a groom trail at night, alone machine

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<v Speaker 1>at speed, helmet on when somebody spoke to him close

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<v Speaker 1>word of it. The thing he keeps returning to is

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<v Speaker 1>that it didn't come over the engine noise it came

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<v Speaker 1>through it. He shut the machine down in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the trail and pulled the helmet off and stood

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<v Speaker 1>there in the dark for a full minute with his

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<v Speaker 1>ears still ringing, and there was nothing. He started up

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<v Speaker 1>when another mile and it happened again. He finished that

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<v Speaker 1>ride wide open and didn't stop for anything. Owen guides

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<v Speaker 1>fishing in the summer and does close to nothing in

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<v Speaker 1>the winter, which is how he came to be walking

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<v Speaker 1>like a person, and it didn't sound like an animal either.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounded like something doing and impression of a person

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<v Speaker 1>while every individual sound inside it comes out wrong. He

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne fished a dark house on a lake. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to name alone out on the ice at night,

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<v Speaker 1>jigging pike through a square hole, cutting the floor, when

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<v Speaker 1>he uses about it's polite. It sounded polite to him.

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<v Speaker 1>He opened the door onto open snow under a moon,

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<v Speaker 1>which up there gives you a very long way to

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<v Speaker 1>see in every direction. And there was nobody out there

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<v Speaker 1>at all, no shack door swinging shut, no boot track

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes on principle, and nothing else happened. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>it's never happened again. Lonnie kept a wheelhouse on a

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody who spent a night on a frozen lake knows

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<v Speaker 1>that sound and can't mistake it. A crunch of snow

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<v Speaker 1>over ice with a hollow underneath it, and this came

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<v Speaker 1>from the east side, passed the shack about forty feet out,

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<v Speaker 1>and continued west. What he did while it went by

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<v Speaker 1>is the detail that convinces me he was awake and

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention, because he counted the steps and he noted

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<v Speaker 1>that the interval between them was long. In the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>he walked the same line and counted his own stride

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<v Speaker 1>against it to be sure. The wind had come up

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<v Speaker 1>overnight and put drift across everything, and there was no

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<v Speaker 1>track to be found on that whole side of the lake.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything in that catalog, the voices and the names, and

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<v Speaker 1>the thing walking past a shack at two in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>has a much older and much heavier case sitting underneath it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that case ended on the scaffold. At Fort Saskatchewan.

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<v Speaker 1>Swift Runner was a large man and a cree hunter,

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<v Speaker 1>and the mounted police knew his face because he'd guided

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<v Speaker 1>for them at one point. By eighteen seventy eight, that

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<v Speaker 1>relationship had come apart, and the accounts from the period

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<v Speaker 1>describe heavy drinking and violence and say that the police

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<v Speaker 1>let him go and that his own people pushed him

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<v Speaker 1>out as well. Those accounts are the impressions of colonial

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<v Speaker 1>officers written down about a man they later hanged, and

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<v Speaker 1>they should be weighed accordingly. But there what survives that fall.

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<v Speaker 1>He took his family into the bush north of Fort

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<v Speaker 1>Saskatchewan to winter, and the sources can't agree on who

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<v Speaker 1>went with him. There was a wife, there was either

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<v Speaker 1>his mother or his mother in law. There was a brother,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were five children or six, depending on which

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<v Speaker 1>account you're reading. Most summaries settle on eight people in total.

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<v Speaker 1>In the spring, one man walked out. He came into

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<v Speaker 1>the mission at Saint Albert and reported that his family

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<v Speaker 1>had starved, and what ruined him was his his own body,

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<v Speaker 1>because he wasn't starved. Stay tuned for more backwoods Bigfoot stories.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back after these messages. He was in good condition,

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<v Speaker 1>and every man at that mission had seen what people

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<v Speaker 1>look like coming off a hard winter in that country.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody then worked out the second problem with his account,

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<v Speaker 1>which was that his camp had been twenty five miles

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<v Speaker 1>from a post that had food in it and was

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<v Speaker 1>actively issuing rations. Twenty five miles through that country and

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<v Speaker 1>winter is a serious undertaking and not something to dismiss,

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<v Speaker 1>but for a man of his reputation on snowshoes. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a trip rather than a wall. They arrested him

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<v Speaker 1>in May, and he took a police party back to

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<v Speaker 1>the site himself. What came out of that clearing included

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<v Speaker 1>human bones with the ends broken open, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>a person does to get at the marrow, along with

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<v Speaker 1>hair and a cooking pot and remains in and around

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<v Speaker 1>the fire. He never fought the charge at any point.

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<v Speaker 1>What he told them was that something had entered him

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<v Speaker 1>during that one, that it hadn't been swift Runner doing

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<v Speaker 1>those things, and that once it had hold of him,

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<v Speaker 1>the hunger didn't stop. The court had no framework for

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<v Speaker 1>a statement like that, and made no attempt to build one.

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<v Speaker 1>He was convicted in August and sentenced to hang in December.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody at that fort had ever conducted an execution, and

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<v Speaker 1>the old army pensioner they hired for it forgot the

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<v Speaker 1>straps needed to pinion the prisoner's arms and had to

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<v Speaker 1>go back for them, which left swift Runner standing on

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<v Speaker 1>the trap in the December cold, with nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>but wait. Offered a chance to speak, he admitted his guilt,

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<v Speaker 1>thanked his jailers for having treated him decently and complained

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<v Speaker 1>about being made to stand out there. That last piece

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<v Speaker 1>is the one I can't put down, because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the behavior of a man performing a legend for an audience.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the behavior of a man who's cold. Sound is

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<v Speaker 1>only half of what people bring out of that country.

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<v Speaker 1>The other half arrives without any sound at all. Delores

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<v Speaker 1>grew up on the Red Lake, and what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>her at fourteen was ordinary enough in her family that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody in it ever treated the event as a story

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<v Speaker 1>worth telling. She was walking a plowed road about a

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<v Speaker 1>mile from her aunt's place in late December, in that

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<v Speaker 1>flat three in the afternoon light, where the sun has

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<v Speaker 1>already given up for the day, and across a field

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<v Speaker 1>of unbroken snow. Off her right side there was a

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<v Speaker 1>tree line, and something in that tree line had her.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't look at it. She'd been taught not to look,

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<v Speaker 1>and not to run, to hold exactly the same walking

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<v Speaker 1>pace she'd been holding, to get inside, and then to

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<v Speaker 1>say out loud to an adult what had happened. And

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<v Speaker 1>she did all four of those things in order. Asked

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<v Speaker 1>much later what she believed had been standing there, she

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<v Speaker 1>said that her grandmother would have told her not to

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<v Speaker 1>ask that question out of doors, and she left it there.

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<v Speaker 1>Anski's a groomed loop in the Chippewa National Forest most

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<v Speaker 1>weekends of the winter, and her version of the same

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<v Speaker 1>experience is entirely modern. She came around a bend into

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<v Speaker 1>a long, straight section of trail and found that she

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't make herself continue down, with no sound anywhere and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing visible in the timber. The comparison she reaches for

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<v Speaker 1>is skiing into a room where an argument stopped half

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<v Speaker 1>a second before the door opened. She stood in her

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<v Speaker 1>own tracks long enough to feel ridiculous about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then skied the section anyway, and the feeling ended abruptly

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<v Speaker 1>about two hundred yards along the way it would if

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<v Speaker 1>she'd crossed a chalk line drawn on the ground. She's

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<v Speaker 1>done that loop something over one hundred times since it's

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<v Speaker 1>happened twice more in the same stretch, both times. In February,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom hunts near Effie and spent forty minutes one afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>in a stand unable to make himself turn around, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a difficult thing for a grown man with a

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<v Speaker 1>rifle across his lap to admit to anybody he worked

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<v Speaker 1>at it the entire time and couldn't get his own

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<v Speaker 1>neck to do it. And when he finally managed it,

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<v Speaker 1>there was nothing behind him but timber. He climbed down

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<v Speaker 1>and walked out in the dark, and he says the

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<v Speaker 1>walkout was worse than the forty minutes intruction Dolores was

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<v Speaker 1>given as a small child. Are the same instruction that

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<v Speaker 1>turn up in communities from Manitoba to Michigan that had

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<v Speaker 1>no way at all of comparing notes with one another.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't look at it, don't run from it, keep your pace,

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<v Speaker 1>get indoors, and tell somebody out loud what happened to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Del ran a beagle out of a place near keller

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<v Speaker 1>Her for nine years and had never once had that

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<v Speaker 1>dog refuse him anything. On a cold December morning, at

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of a cutover, the dog came off the tailgate,

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<v Speaker 1>took about four steps toward the tree line, put its

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<v Speaker 1>ears down, backed up, and got underneath the truck where

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<v Speaker 1>it stayed. Dell walked that tree line himself and found

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<v Speaker 1>nothing at all, no tracks and no blood, and no

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<v Speaker 1>bed and no carcass, and nothing on the wind he

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<v Speaker 1>could pick up. He stood out there in the cold

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of minutes, loaded the dog, and drove home.

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<v Speaker 1>That beagle worked another five seasons and never did it again.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the nine years before that morning, it had

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<v Speaker 1>run bear wolf and everything else that country had to

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<v Speaker 1>offer with without once putting its ears down. Gordon hunted

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<v Speaker 1>out of a shack near Big Fork with his brother

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<v Speaker 1>and his brother's boys, and the morning in question fell

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<v Speaker 1>in the second week of November, sometime in the late

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineties, with eight inches on the ground and the

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<v Speaker 1>nights running below zero. He was up before light, standing

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<v Speaker 1>outside in the cold with a cup of coffee, when

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<v Speaker 1>he saw a figure at the edge of the yard,

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<v Speaker 1>past the woodpile, thirty five yards off, in that gray

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<v Speaker 1>that's neither dark nor morning. At first he thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a man, a very tall, very thin man, and

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<v Speaker 1>what bothered him was the proportion of the thing, because

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<v Speaker 1>the arms hung too low, and the head sat forward

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<v Speaker 1>on the shoulders instead of stacked on top of them.

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<v Speaker 1>He never saw a face, and says he didn't want one.

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<v Speaker 1>He went inside for a rifle, which took eight or

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<v Speaker 1>nine seconds, and when he came back out, the yard

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<v Speaker 1>was empty and he couldn't find a track. Though four

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<v Speaker 1>hunters had been walking through that snow for a week

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<v Speaker 1>and had beaten it to slush. He's never once claimed

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<v Speaker 1>it was anything in particular, and he doesn't enjoy being asked.

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<v Speaker 1>He simply never hunted out of that camp again, and

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<v Speaker 1>when his brother's boys were old enough to take it over,

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<v Speaker 1>he signed his share to them and didn't explain himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle drove a log truck for years on a hall

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<v Speaker 1>road out of the Big Fork Country, and one morning,

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<v Speaker 1>at the top of a shift, his headlights put a

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<v Speaker 1>figure in the ditch line ahead of him. What he

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<v Speaker 1>against the brush, because he knew that ditch, and he

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<v Speaker 1>knew exactly what four feet of aldar looked like from

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<v Speaker 1>the cab, and whatever was standing in it looked a

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<v Speaker 1>Somewhere around one hundred yards out he decided to hold

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<v Speaker 1>his speed and look straight through the windshield, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he did, and he went by it. He ran

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<v Speaker 1>that road for another eleven years without ever seeing it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny and Dave kept a shack on state land east

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<v Speaker 1>of Northolm. It was February and both of them were

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<v Speaker 1>What Kenny saw was his brother come up out of

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<v Speaker 1>seconds behind him, into an empty yard with fresh snow

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<v Speaker 1>that had fallen that afternoon, and there was no track

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<v Speaker 1>underneath that window. That detail cuts in both directions, and

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<v Speaker 1>it cuts harder against the story than for it, because

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody was standing there. Dave was sitting in a

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<v Speaker 1>lit cabin at night looking at a black pane of

420
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<v Speaker 1>glass which functions as a mirror, and the most likely

421
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<v Speaker 1>thing Dave saw in that window was Dave. He never

422
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<v Speaker 1>slept in the shack again. They sold it four years later,

423
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<v Speaker 1>and neither brother has ever shifted a single detail of

424
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<v Speaker 1>the account in either direction. From November through April, pat

425
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<v Speaker 1>is the only living soul on a resort property built

426
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<v Speaker 1>to hold two hundred people. On a February morning, she

427
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<v Speaker 1>was walking the shoreline path down to check the boat

428
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<v Speaker 1>house when she saw something standing between two of the

429
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<v Speaker 1>clothes cabins about halfway along the row, and what caught

430
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<v Speaker 1>her was the stillness of it, because deer don't hold

431
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<v Speaker 1>like that, and a person can't. She watched it for

432
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<v Speaker 1>what she puts at fifteen or twenty seconds before it

433
00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:14.599
<v Speaker 1>went out between the buildings, and she never saw it

434
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<v Speaker 1>take a step. She finished her rounds that morning and

435
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<v Speaker 1>she checked the boat house, and she's kept that job

436
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<v Speaker 1>through every winter since. What she changed is that she

437
00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:27.440
<v Speaker 1>stopped walking the shoreline path in the dark and started

438
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<v Speaker 1>waiting for full light, which in February cost her about

439
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<v Speaker 1>two hours of the working day and which she's never

440
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<v Speaker 1>once complained about. Artists was walking a shoreline road on

441
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<v Speaker 1>the north side in February when a smell came across it,

442
00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:43.559
<v Speaker 1>thick enough to stop her walking cold. That deep strip

443
00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:45.880
<v Speaker 1>scent out of the air, which is the piece that

444
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<v Speaker 1>people from warmer country don't understand, because at twenty below

445
00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:53.119
<v Speaker 1>there's almost nothing to smell at all. The molecules that

446
00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:56.720
<v Speaker 1>carry oders stop moving, wood smoke will carry, and diesel

447
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<v Speaker 1>will carry, and very little else does cross that road.

448
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<v Speaker 1>She put somewhere between a wet dog and a dead animal,

449
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<v Speaker 1>with something underneath both that she's never been able to name.

450
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<v Speaker 1>It lasted about eight seconds, and then it was entirely gone,

451
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<v Speaker 1>the way it would go if something had moved through

452
00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:16.480
<v Speaker 1>and kept moving. She never saw anything and never heard anything,

453
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<v Speaker 1>and she turned around and walked home at a good clip.

454
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<v Speaker 1>And what she remembers most clearly is being angry rather

455
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<v Speaker 1>than frightened, because she'd been enjoying the walk. The Big

456
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<v Speaker 1>Bog up in Beltrome County is the largest peat bog

457
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<v Speaker 1>in the lower forty eight and doesn't resemble anywhere else

458
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<v Speaker 1>in this country. And in winter you can cross it

459
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<v Speaker 1>on foot, which is the only season the ground will

460
00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:40.640
<v Speaker 1>hold you. Sig grew up Rising with his family and

461
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:43.799
<v Speaker 1>had crossed that bog many times before the afternoon he

462
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:47.519
<v Speaker 1>saw a shape out on it, three hundred yards off upright,

463
00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:51.400
<v Speaker 1>traveling in the same direction he was. What stayed with

464
00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:54.119
<v Speaker 1>him afterward wasn't the shape at all, but the speed,

465
00:24:54.680 --> 00:24:56.519
<v Speaker 1>because he says, it didn't look like it was moving

466
00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>fast while it was covering ground faster than the way

467
00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:02.079
<v Speaker 1>it appeared to move. And he's never once been able

468
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<v Speaker 1>to say that sentence in a way that satisfied anybody,

469
00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:09.680
<v Speaker 1>including himself. I've heard that same complaint enough times now

470
00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:12.960
<v Speaker 1>that I've started keeping it as its own category. And

471
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<v Speaker 1>it's not a description of a creature, it's a description

472
00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:20.559
<v Speaker 1>of movement that won't reconcile. Orville spent four seasons on

473
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<v Speaker 1>a fire tower in the Superior, back when the States

474
00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:26.079
<v Speaker 1>still staffed them, which meant a hundred feet of open

475
00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>steel and a glass cab and nothing to do for

476
00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:32.440
<v Speaker 1>hours at a stretch. But look at country. What he

477
00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:36.599
<v Speaker 1>saw he saw in daylight in October with binoculars at

478
00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a range he puts around six hundred yards moving along

479
00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:42.519
<v Speaker 1>the far edge of a burned scar where the regrowth

480
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:45.960
<v Speaker 1>was still low enough that nothing could hide in it.

481
00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:48.480
<v Speaker 1>It was upright, and it was dark, and it covered

482
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<v Speaker 1>the open ground without ever changing pace. He watched it

483
00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:55.359
<v Speaker 1>for something close to two minutes, which is an eternity

484
00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>compared with what most people get, and he called it

485
00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:01.200
<v Speaker 1>in on the radio. Man on the other end asked

486
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<v Speaker 1>him whether it was a bear, and he said no.

487
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:07.000
<v Speaker 1>The man asked him what it was, and he didn't

488
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:10.200
<v Speaker 1>answer that question then and he still can't answer it now.

489
00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:16.200
<v Speaker 1>He wrote the sighting in the tower log time, weather, direction, distance.

490
00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>He's often wondered what happened to those logs when the

491
00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>towers went out of service, and whether the entry is

492
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:24.519
<v Speaker 1>still sitting in a box in a record's office in

493
00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Saint Paul with his handwriting on it, filed between a

494
00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:30.640
<v Speaker 1>lightning strike and a smoke report. Most of the road

495
00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:33.160
<v Speaker 1>accounts in this state arrive around four in the morning,

496
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and Marv plowed county roads out of Boudette long enough

497
00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:38.599
<v Speaker 1>to have been out in a great many of them.

498
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:41.160
<v Speaker 1>He had the blade down in blowing snow, with the

499
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:43.759
<v Speaker 1>headlights going and the amber rotating on the roof of

500
00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the cab, which he's the first to point out is

501
00:26:46.440 --> 00:26:50.279
<v Speaker 1>a lighting situation that makes everything look like something. There

502
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:52.559
<v Speaker 1>was a figure standing in the road two hundred feet

503
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>ahead of him and slightly off center, and Marv laid

504
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>on the horn out of pure irritation because his first

505
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:02.240
<v Speaker 1>thought was a drunk walking home from somewhere. By the

506
00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:04.279
<v Speaker 1>time he reached the spot, the road was empty and

507
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:07.160
<v Speaker 1>the snow on both shoulders was clean. He will also

508
00:27:07.200 --> 00:27:09.319
<v Speaker 1>tell you that clean is a very strong word to

509
00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:11.440
<v Speaker 1>use at four in the morning and blowing snow with

510
00:27:11.480 --> 00:27:13.920
<v Speaker 1>a plow blade, throwing a wall of it off your

511
00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:17.599
<v Speaker 1>right side. He's told that story perhaps six times and

512
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.279
<v Speaker 1>thirty years, and he likes it less every time he

513
00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:23.640
<v Speaker 1>tells it. Verna kept a place on a lake outside

514
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Cook and eventually gave up sleeping in the back bedroom

515
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.920
<v Speaker 1>of it. For three nights running in February. Something worked

516
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>to the outside of that wall, not knocking, but dragging

517
00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>at about waste height, moving slowly from one end of

518
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:39.359
<v Speaker 1>the room to the other and then back again. And

519
00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>it took long enough that she was able to time

520
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.039
<v Speaker 1>it against the clock on the nightstand, at roughly twenty

521
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:47.880
<v Speaker 1>seconds in each direction. Between passes, there was a pause

522
00:27:47.880 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 1>of a minute or two, and then it would start over.

523
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 1>She never once looked out. On the third night, she

524
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:56.599
<v Speaker 1>carried a quilt to the front room and slept there,

525
00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.319
<v Speaker 1>and it didn't happen in the front room, and it

526
00:27:59.359 --> 00:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>never happened in the back bedroom again either. The wall

527
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:05.359
<v Speaker 1>was cedar shake, and in the morning there was nothing

528
00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:07.799
<v Speaker 1>on it, and nothing in the snow along that side

529
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of the house apart from the drip line off the eve.

530
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>What she's never gotten past in thirty years of thinking

531
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:17.319
<v Speaker 1>about it is the pause, because whatever was out there

532
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:20.079
<v Speaker 1>stopped for a full minute between passes and then began

533
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>again twenty seconds down and twenty seconds back like something

534
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:27.799
<v Speaker 1>working a problem. The reports that come in loudest and

535
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.559
<v Speaker 1>most often now are the ones about screaming, and they

536
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:34.039
<v Speaker 1>cluster in the Superior National Forest and the Boundary Waters,

537
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>which is the emptiest country the state has. Sam and

538
00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>West were winter camping in the Boundary Waters in early

539
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:43.079
<v Speaker 1>March on a lake I'm not going to name because

540
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want fifty people driving out there to look

541
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>for it. At two in the morning, something started low

542
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:50.599
<v Speaker 1>and climbed, and what came out of the dark was

543
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:53.519
<v Speaker 1>a scream that ran considerably longer than a lung ought

544
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to allow, and never broke anywhere for a breath, two

545
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred to three hundred yards out. Then it did it

546
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>again from a different position. Neither of them slept, and

547
00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:05.839
<v Speaker 1>they were packed and on the ice at first light.

548
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 1>Andrea snowshoes out of the ely area alone and doesn't

549
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>frighten easily. And hers was a single scream, close in

550
00:29:14.279 --> 00:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the trees rather than across water. On a February afternoon,

551
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.559
<v Speaker 1>on a trail she'd done many times. Her body turned

552
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:24.599
<v Speaker 1>before her mind did. She stood in the trail about

553
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a minute and then went back out the way she'd come,

554
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.279
<v Speaker 1>which took her forty minutes, and she will tell you

555
00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>that every one of those forty minutes was awful. She

556
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>hasn't stopped snowshoeing, but she has stopped doing that trail alone.

557
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Nick was on the gun Flint trail in December, outside

558
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:44.000
<v Speaker 1>a rented cabin at night, pulling wood off the pile,

559
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>when something started up out across the lake ice. And

560
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the way it comes out when he describes it's two

561
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>sounds fighting. There was a lower part and a higher

562
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:58.519
<v Speaker 1>part happening simultaneously out of the same source, which a

563
00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:01.680
<v Speaker 1>couple of animals cong genuinely do, in which most people

564
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 1>never hear once in their lives. Stay tuned for more

565
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Backwoods Bigfoot stories. We'll be back after these messages. He

566
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.079
<v Speaker 1>got the wood, and he took his time about it,

567
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:15.720
<v Speaker 1>deliberately because he didn't want to be a man who

568
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 1>runs from a noise. He came back inside with about

569
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.279
<v Speaker 1>a third of what he'd gone out for. The one

570
00:30:21.279 --> 00:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>that bothers tear of most isn't the loudest thing she's heard,

571
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and she works seasonally around voyagers, so she's heard a

572
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.480
<v Speaker 1>great deal. She heard a scream she would have written

573
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:33.799
<v Speaker 1>off entirely, and then ninety seconds later, she heard it again,

574
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>from a different direction and a great deal farther away.

575
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:40.839
<v Speaker 1>Her difficulty isn't the sound itself, but the distance covered

576
00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:45.079
<v Speaker 1>in ninety seconds at night in winter across country she

577
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>knows on foot and is crossed in daylight with a

578
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:51.240
<v Speaker 1>pack on. What links those four accounts isn't the volume.

579
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.319
<v Speaker 1>It's that every one of those people had spent years

580
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:56.960
<v Speaker 1>in that country before it happened, and had a working

581
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>inventory of what lives there and what each thing says

582
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>sounds like in the dark. Sam and West had winter

583
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 1>camp the boundary waters better than a dozen times. Andrea

584
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>has snowshoot out of Ely for most of two decades.

585
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Nick grew up on that shore. Tara works in it

586
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:16.359
<v Speaker 1>for a living. Four people with a full catalog in

587
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:18.759
<v Speaker 1>their heads, and all four of them came back out

588
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>saying the same thing, which is that whatever they heard

589
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:25.759
<v Speaker 1>wasn't in the catalog. The mistake made most often in

590
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota material is filing whindgo reports and sasquatch reports in

591
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.319
<v Speaker 1>the same drawer, so that a hairy biped seen near

592
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:35.319
<v Speaker 1>a deer camp gets called a wind to go by

593
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>half the internet. The tradition itself never makes that error.

594
00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>A Nishinabe tradition carries a separate being for the hairy

595
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:45.759
<v Speaker 1>man of the woods, and the name that comes up

596
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:50.240
<v Speaker 1>in Ojibwe Mowen is Bogwaji and Nini, which parses roughly

597
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:54.000
<v Speaker 1>as wilderness man or man of the wild place. It's

598
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.400
<v Speaker 1>not a wind to go, and it doesn't eat anybody.

599
00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:59.599
<v Speaker 1>It's not made by cannibalism or by greed, and it

600
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>carries none of the famine wait at all. In most tellings,

601
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:06.039
<v Speaker 1>it's simply another kind of person living out there who

602
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>would prefer that you kept walking. When people in this

603
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 1>state report a large hair covered animal that walks upright,

604
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the traditional framework here already has a place to put that,

605
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's not the wind goes place, which matters because

606
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota has a sasquatch record that almost nobody outside the

607
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>state ever discusses. Reamer sits in Cass County, with about

608
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.640
<v Speaker 1>four hundred people in it, an hour north of Brainerd,

609
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.559
<v Speaker 1>ringed by woods and marsh, and it came up out

610
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>of the logging boom in the early nineteen hundreds when

611
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Willow River was still virgin pine and camps were going

612
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 1>in all through it. The man who founded the place

613
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 1>was named William, and he served as the first postmaster

614
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>and ran the general store. And he described finding tracks

615
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>that were much bigger than a man's and sunk deep

616
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>into the earth. Local accounts run back to the late

617
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:59.079
<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds, and what's interesting about the old Reamer material

618
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:02.799
<v Speaker 1>is how little fear is in it. People described whole

619
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:06.799
<v Speaker 1>families of them, including young ones. People asked one another

620
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>whether they'd seen it lately, in the same tone they

621
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.559
<v Speaker 1>would use about the weather. There was a stretch of

622
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>shoreline on Big Sand Lake that folks left alone, not

623
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>because anybody thought it was dangerous, but because that was

624
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:21.599
<v Speaker 1>where they nested, and you gave them their peace. Sightings

625
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>around ream were thinned out through the twenties and thirties

626
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:27.200
<v Speaker 1>as the forest came down, which is either a statement

627
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 1>about habitat or a statement about how many people were

628
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>left in those woods to see anything at all, and

629
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:36.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know which. In October of two thousand and nine,

630
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>a trail camera on hunting land north of town caught something.

631
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.839
<v Speaker 1>The man who owned the land, Tim assumed a friend

632
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.160
<v Speaker 1>was playing a joke on him, and then established that

633
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:48.319
<v Speaker 1>nobody who might have done it knew where that camera

634
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.799
<v Speaker 1>had been set. A city council member named Mark had

635
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:54.559
<v Speaker 1>grown up on the town's history, went back through the

636
00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>sighting records realized that no town in North America had

637
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>ever actually claimed to be the creature home and trademarked

638
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>the phrase home of Bigfoot. Animal Planet came and filmed.

639
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:10.039
<v Speaker 1>The first Bigfoot Days ran in twenty sixteen and drew

640
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 1>thousands of people. There's now a gas station called Bigfoot

641
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Gas and gifts with plaster casts of prints found in

642
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>the area, and the cafe sells Bigfoot burgers. That's tourism.

643
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.760
<v Speaker 1>And I have nothing bad to say about a small

644
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>town in the north Woods finding something it can sell

645
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:29.800
<v Speaker 1>in order to keep a main street alive. Marcus stated

646
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>publicly that he's skeptical and not entirely a believer, and

647
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that what he values is what the whole business has

648
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:39.119
<v Speaker 1>done for the town, which is an unusually straight thing

649
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 1>for a man in his position to say out loud.

650
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 1>None of it touches the older accounts which were being

651
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 1>told in that country long before there was anything in

652
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>rumor to sell. Vigus over in Ottertail County runs on

653
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>testimony rather than marketing. The Vigos trails are minimum maintenance

654
00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>roads and dirt tracks winding through hilly, heavily wooded back country,

655
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>carrying local names like the Lost Highway, and they've been

656
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.360
<v Speaker 1>where teenagers go at night for as long as anybody

657
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:10.280
<v Speaker 1>can remember, which means they've collected the entire standard freight

658
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>of glowing headstones and handprints on car windows, and somebody's

659
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.599
<v Speaker 1>cousin chased by a cult. Sitting on top of all

660
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>of that is the hairy Man. The earliest talk local

661
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:24.239
<v Speaker 1>historians can trace runs back to the late nineteen sixties,

662
00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>and nobody has ever identified a first sighting or explained

663
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>why the stories began when they did. But the reports

664
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:35.119
<v Speaker 1>picked up sharply through the seventies and never entirely stopped.

665
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.159
<v Speaker 1>The descriptions are consistent enough to be worth something. Running

666
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:43.079
<v Speaker 1>to a large, hair covered, biped dark put anywhere between

667
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:46.119
<v Speaker 1>six and eight feet depending on who's telling it, occasionally

668
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:49.639
<v Speaker 1>with a smell attached that people can't describe and can't forget.

669
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 1>The regional newspaper went out and did the work on

670
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 1>this at one point and reported contact with roughly a

671
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:58.719
<v Speaker 1>dozen people from the area who described run ends, and

672
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:02.119
<v Speaker 1>a local weekly doing legwork inside its own community is

673
00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:05.039
<v Speaker 1>worth more to me than one hundred anonymous database entries.

674
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.159
<v Speaker 1>The account that has stayed in circulation locally belongs to Cheryl,

675
00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:12.320
<v Speaker 1>who was twelve years old in nineteen seventy two and

676
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.639
<v Speaker 1>out on those trails at night on a snowmobile with

677
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:17.559
<v Speaker 1>their cousin, Joe Lynn, when the headlight hit a figure

678
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>on the trail in front of them. Two children on

679
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.079
<v Speaker 1>a snowmobile at night in winter get a very good

680
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and very close look at something standing in a headlight

681
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:28.519
<v Speaker 1>beam on a track with nothing else moving on it,

682
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>and then spend the next fifty years being asked about

683
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>it by people who weren't there. Cheryl has never embellished

684
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.519
<v Speaker 1>it and has never taken any of it back. A

685
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>man named Mike out of Morehead has done more leg

686
00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>work on Minnesota sidings than anybody else in the state.

687
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:46.880
<v Speaker 1>He had his own as a boy from the back

688
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:49.559
<v Speaker 1>seat of his parents' car near Strawberry Lake on the

689
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:53.000
<v Speaker 1>White Earth Reservation north of Detroit Lakes, and he sat

690
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:56.599
<v Speaker 1>there stunned without saying anything for a while, and when

691
00:36:56.639 --> 00:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>he finally told his parents, they didn't take it seriously.

692
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:03.840
<v Speaker 1>He graduated high school in nineteen eighty six, started collecting

693
00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:06.519
<v Speaker 1>accounts and eventually put them into a book called The

694
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Sasquatch in Minnesota. The line of his that I find

695
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:13.519
<v Speaker 1>most interesting concerns what the record looked like when he began,

696
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>because he says the published sources at the time listed

697
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:21.039
<v Speaker 1>something like nine sidings in the entire state. Nine in

698
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:25.039
<v Speaker 1>a state carrying three million acres of national forest. That's

699
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:27.079
<v Speaker 1>not a statement about how many of these things are

700
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>out there. It's a statement about how reporting works, because

701
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:33.360
<v Speaker 1>what ends up in a database is never what happened.

702
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:36.960
<v Speaker 1>It's what happened and then got told to somebody, and

703
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.400
<v Speaker 1>then got told to somebody who wrote it down and

704
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:43.239
<v Speaker 1>then survived. In law enforcement, we called the gap between

705
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:46.800
<v Speaker 1>crimes committed and crimes reported the dark figure, and in

706
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:51.039
<v Speaker 1>some categories it's enormous. Whatever the dark figure is for

707
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.519
<v Speaker 1>a man in a Taska county who saw something at

708
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the edge of a field and then considered his job

709
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>and his marriage, it's not small. Dennis runs a plow

710
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>room and spends a great deal of winter out on ice,

711
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:05.159
<v Speaker 1>and in January he came across a line of prints

712
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:07.559
<v Speaker 1>crossing a lake in the open where the snow had

713
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>drifted about four inches over glare ice. They were bare

714
00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>feet or something like feet, and they ran in a

715
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>single line, with one directly ahead of the next, rather

716
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:19.519
<v Speaker 1>than in the side by side pattern a walking person

717
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>leaves behind. He paced the stride out and made it

718
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:25.840
<v Speaker 1>well over four feet. He didn't photograph it, and he's

719
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>been asked about that one hundred times since, and his

720
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>answer is that he was on the clock and it

721
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:33.159
<v Speaker 1>didn't occur to him until later. He followed the line

722
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:34.800
<v Speaker 1>with his eyes as far as he could see it,

723
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>which was most of the way to the far shore,

724
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:41.239
<v Speaker 1>and it never turned and never wandered. Whatever had crossed

725
00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:43.079
<v Speaker 1>that lake had come out of the timber on one

726
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>side and gone into the timber on the other, and

727
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:49.559
<v Speaker 1>hadn't stopped anywhere in between to look at anything. Ken

728
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:52.119
<v Speaker 1>and his wife ran a small resort operation on the

729
00:38:52.159 --> 00:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Iron Range and spent one October dealing with something that

730
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:58.840
<v Speaker 1>had taken an interest in their garbage, which isn't unusual

731
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>in itself, because bears do that every year, and every

732
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:05.079
<v Speaker 1>resort in that country has a bear story. What was

733
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:08.760
<v Speaker 1>unusual is that whatever it was didn't tear anything. A

734
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:11.559
<v Speaker 1>bear proof bin carries a two stage latch that has

735
00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:14.320
<v Speaker 1>to be lifted and then rotated, and it takes people

736
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.599
<v Speaker 1>a couple of attempts, and bears defeat those by force,

737
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.840
<v Speaker 1>which leaves bent metal and claw gouges and a bin

738
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:24.840
<v Speaker 1>lying on its side. THEIRS was opened three times over

739
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:28.159
<v Speaker 1>nine days, with the latch worked properly, the lid up,

740
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the contents taken, and the bin standing exactly where it

741
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 1>had been left. Ken bought a padlock and that ended it.

742
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:38.280
<v Speaker 1>What he comes back to is that there was no

743
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:42.280
<v Speaker 1>other occupied structure within two miles, that it was October,

744
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>with the seasonal traffic long gone, and that whatever came

745
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.119
<v Speaker 1>in walked past an unlocked shed holding a chainsaw and

746
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:53.519
<v Speaker 1>a generator on three separate nights in order to take garbage.

747
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Curtis and his son Aaron hunt northeast of Grand Rapids,

748
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and THEIRS is an account about sound rather than sight.

749
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>At last light, with both of them in a stand,

750
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:07.159
<v Speaker 1>something large began moving through frozen brush close by on

751
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:11.039
<v Speaker 1>two legs and in a straight line. Deer stop constantly

752
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:14.519
<v Speaker 1>four steps, and then standing and listening, and then four more.

753
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.760
<v Speaker 1>And every hunter knows that rhythm well enough to identify

754
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.119
<v Speaker 1>it in their sleep. This didn't stop. It held a

755
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:23.760
<v Speaker 1>walking pace on a consistent bearing for a long time,

756
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>then quit entirely, then produced nothing at all for several minutes,

757
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:30.559
<v Speaker 1>then went back out the same way it had come in.

758
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Neither of them ever saw a thing. They sat in

759
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>that stand until full dark, because neither one wanted to

760
00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:39.159
<v Speaker 1>be the first down the ladder, and then they climbed

761
00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>out and walked the four hundred yards to the truck together,

762
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:44.920
<v Speaker 1>without either of them saying anything about it until they

763
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:48.440
<v Speaker 1>were inside with the door shut. Not every report in

764
00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:52.199
<v Speaker 1>this state arrives in the cold. Nathan's comes off the

765
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:55.079
<v Speaker 1>water in the Leech Lake Country from a canoe in

766
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:57.880
<v Speaker 1>shirt sleeve weather. While he was rising a bed at

767
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:01.360
<v Speaker 1>the far end, where nobody else was working, something started

768
00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>moving through the rice off to his left, not walking

769
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:06.559
<v Speaker 1>the shoreline, but out in the water and in the

770
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.840
<v Speaker 1>rice itself, which is chest deep muck and the worst

771
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:13.480
<v Speaker 1>possible place for anything heavy to be. What stayed with

772
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:17.079
<v Speaker 1>him afterward is that it wasn't waiting, It was pushing through.

773
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:20.280
<v Speaker 1>He pulled out and finished the day on a different bed,

774
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>and when he mentioned it at the landing, an older

775
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:25.760
<v Speaker 1>man told him which end of that lake not to Rice,

776
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and Nathan took it for a joke right up until

777
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:31.719
<v Speaker 1>he understood it hadn't been offered as one. Rick and

778
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:34.800
<v Speaker 1>his brother in law were fishing walleye off a shoreline

779
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>break on Lake Vermilion in June at dusk, close enough

780
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.639
<v Speaker 1>to the bank to hear what was on it, when

781
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:44.280
<v Speaker 1>something began pacing them, holding position on the bank at

782
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:47.400
<v Speaker 1>the same speed they were moving, and when they moved,

783
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:52.519
<v Speaker 1>it moved, and when they stopped, it stopped, with a

784
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:55.800
<v Speaker 1>couple of seconds of brush settling afterward, and then nothing

785
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:58.559
<v Speaker 1>at all. They ran that pattern for about a quarter

786
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:01.320
<v Speaker 1>mile of shoreline before rick brother in law reeled in

787
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and said he was finished, and Rick, who says he

788
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.159
<v Speaker 1>was roughly four seconds from saying the same thing himself,

789
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.599
<v Speaker 1>started the motor. What neither of them mentioned until the

790
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:13.199
<v Speaker 1>drive home was that the pacing had started well before

791
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.079
<v Speaker 1>either of them noticed it, because they'd both been listening

792
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:18.559
<v Speaker 1>to it for some while and had each assumed the

793
00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:21.800
<v Speaker 1>other had already accounted for it. They fished that lake

794
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the following week and the week after and simply went

795
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:28.199
<v Speaker 1>out deeper. Josh and Eric camp in the Chippewa National

796
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Forest and theirs is the wood knock, which is the

797
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.440
<v Speaker 1>most common report in this field nationally, and the one

798
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I trust least. There was a single knock, distant, like

799
00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:41.360
<v Speaker 1>a bat striking a tree trunk, and then a few

800
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>minutes later another one from somewhere else entirely, and Josh

801
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>picked up a length of dead birch and hit a

802
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:51.800
<v Speaker 1>trunk twice. Two came back at the same interval he'd used.

803
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Josh knocked a third time and got a third answer,

804
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:57.800
<v Speaker 1>and then Eric took the birch out of his hand

805
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:01.159
<v Speaker 1>and put it on the ground. Believes to this day

806
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:04.599
<v Speaker 1>that somebody was playing with them, and Josh doesn't, and

807
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.280
<v Speaker 1>the two of them have argued about it every year since,

808
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:11.039
<v Speaker 1>without either one moving an inch. Vern spent twenty two

809
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:14.119
<v Speaker 1>years driving the same stretch of Iron Range Highway and

810
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.519
<v Speaker 1>got exactly one road crossing out of all of it.

811
00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:19.840
<v Speaker 1>His headlights caught something upright, coming up out of the

812
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>left ditch and crossing in front of him, and he

813
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.280
<v Speaker 1>got on the brakes and it cleared both lanes and

814
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:28.159
<v Speaker 1>what felt to him like three steps, and he was

815
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:31.159
<v Speaker 1>into the far shoulder before he'd finished processing what was

816
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:34.880
<v Speaker 1>in his windshield. He didn't stop. He thought about turning

817
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.039
<v Speaker 1>around for about a mile and then decided he would

818
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 1>rather not know, and he drove the remaining eighteen minutes

819
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:42.559
<v Speaker 1>to his house, doing well under the limit with both

820
00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>hands on the wheel. Whatever he saw, he saw it

821
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:49.320
<v Speaker 1>before he had any chance to want to. Kelly camp's

822
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:52.280
<v Speaker 1>in the Superior National Forest, and one night something hit

823
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:55.199
<v Speaker 1>the lake, maybe thirty feet off the shoreline near her camp,

824
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and several minutes later another one came in closer. She

825
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:02.400
<v Speaker 1>called out, and it stopped. Kelly sat up the rest

826
00:44:02.400 --> 00:44:04.599
<v Speaker 1>of that night with the fire built high, and didn't

827
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.880
<v Speaker 1>hear another sound. Randy hunts out of Black Duck and

828
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:11.239
<v Speaker 1>found a structure. Three young aspen had been bent over

829
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:13.400
<v Speaker 1>and leaned into one another at the tops in a

830
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.480
<v Speaker 1>rough cone, in a stand where nothing else was down

831
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and the bases were still rooted and still alive. The

832
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:22.880
<v Speaker 1>bend sat high enough that he couldn't reach it standing

833
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:26.119
<v Speaker 1>on the ground. He stood underneath it and reached up

834
00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 1>with both arms and came nowhere near the bend, and

835
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Randy is a shade over six feet. He left it standing.

836
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Speaker 1>He thought about cutting one to look at the brake,

837
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and decided it wasn't his to cut Tanya was at

838
00:44:38.480 --> 00:44:41.159
<v Speaker 1>a lake camp in the Superior National Forest in October

839
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.320
<v Speaker 1>when her head lamp swept the tree line and caught

840
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:47.679
<v Speaker 1>reflection two points together, holding steady, and what she fixed

841
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:50.679
<v Speaker 1>on was the height, which she puts around seven feet

842
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:54.599
<v Speaker 1>off flat ground she'd walked that same afternoon. The color

843
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:57.159
<v Speaker 1>is the part she keeps returning to because it came

844
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:59.800
<v Speaker 1>back a dull red rather than the greenish whited deer

845
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the and she'd swept that same tree line with that

846
00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 1>same headlamp every night that week. Stay tuned for more

847
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Backwoods Bigfoot stories. We'll be back after these messages. She

848
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:13.960
<v Speaker 1>held the beam on it for account of about five

849
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>then the two points went out together and didn't come back.

850
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Shane runs bear bait north of Hill City, which means

851
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:23.760
<v Speaker 1>a barrel chain to a tree, and a barrel chain

852
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:26.159
<v Speaker 1>to a tree is a very particular kind of evidence

853
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:29.480
<v Speaker 1>because it's a controlled setup with a known weight. He

854
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:32.119
<v Speaker 1>came in one August afternoon to refresh it and found

855
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:35.039
<v Speaker 1>the barrel forty yards off the tree, lying on its

856
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.519
<v Speaker 1>side in the brush with the chain unbroken. It had

857
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:41.360
<v Speaker 1>been worked off the tree rather than torn off, which

858
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 1>takes both time and hands. He'd been running bait in

859
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.719
<v Speaker 1>that country for eleven years and had seen barrels chewed

860
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:50.840
<v Speaker 1>rolled and stood on end, and he'd never once seen

861
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:53.639
<v Speaker 1>a chain worked off a tree and left lying hole

862
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:57.119
<v Speaker 1>in the leaves. The bait was gone, rather than scattered

863
00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.159
<v Speaker 1>around the barrel the way a bear leaves, it hung

864
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.599
<v Speaker 1>the barrel and hunted that site for two more seasons

865
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>without anything else happening there, And he still runs bear bait,

866
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and he no longer tells that particular story at the bar.

867
00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Trina lived on a gravel road outside Reamer and waited

868
00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:14.920
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the driveway with her children for

869
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the school bus, which in December means standing in the dark.

870
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:21.719
<v Speaker 1>One morning, there was something at the tree line across

871
00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:24.079
<v Speaker 1>the road, and she got both kids into the car

872
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and sat there with the doors locked and the engine running,

873
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:30.159
<v Speaker 1>and watched it until the bus arrived, which she estimates

874
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:33.400
<v Speaker 1>at six or seven minutes, and it didn't move once

875
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:36.320
<v Speaker 1>in all that time. When the bus pulled up, its

876
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>headlights swung across that tree line and there was nothing

877
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:42.280
<v Speaker 1>in them. She drove her children to school herself for

878
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.639
<v Speaker 1>the remainder of that winter, and took a fair amount

879
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>of grief for it from her husband, who stood at

880
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the end of that same driveway with her every morning

881
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:52.880
<v Speaker 1>for a week afterward and never saw a thing. The

882
00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:55.239
<v Speaker 1>following spring, he cleared the brush on their side of

883
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:58.360
<v Speaker 1>the road back forty feet without being asked and without

884
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:02.400
<v Speaker 1>ever saying why. Bud hunted the same forty acres northwest

885
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:05.159
<v Speaker 1>of Rimer for better than thirty years and found the

886
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:08.079
<v Speaker 1>thing that ended it, which was a deer, or at

887
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:10.639
<v Speaker 1>least what was left of one, wedged in the crotch

888
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 1>of a maple about nine feet off the ground. What

889
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Bud fixed on was the absence of everything else, because

890
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:20.119
<v Speaker 1>there was no claw damage anywhere on the bark going up,

891
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:23.039
<v Speaker 1>no drag trail coming in through the leaf litter, and

892
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>no blood at all underneath the tree. Whatever put that

893
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:28.360
<v Speaker 1>deer up there had carried it in off the ground

894
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:30.760
<v Speaker 1>and lifted it into the crotch, and had done it

895
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:33.519
<v Speaker 1>without leaving a mark on the trunk. He hunted a

896
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:36.880
<v Speaker 1>different piece of ground the following fall. He still owns

897
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that forty acres and he's never sold it, but he's

898
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:43.199
<v Speaker 1>never hunted it again either. Gary was moose hunting up

899
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:45.559
<v Speaker 1>near the gun flint years ago when he got the whistles,

900
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and the first thing he will say about them is

901
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:50.119
<v Speaker 1>that they weren't a bird, and he'd been in that

902
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:55.239
<v Speaker 1>country his entire life. It was three notes, descending clean

903
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:58.719
<v Speaker 1>out of the black spruce off to his right. He

904
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Speaker 1>whistled back, she now describes as the single stupidest thing

905
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:04.960
<v Speaker 1>he's ever done in the woods, and it answered him

906
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:08.320
<v Speaker 1>with the same three notes from closer in. He didn't

907
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:10.840
<v Speaker 1>whistle a third time. He walked out to the road

908
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and sat in his truck for a while, and then

909
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:15.840
<v Speaker 1>drove into Grand Morey and had a cheeseburger, which is

910
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:19.480
<v Speaker 1>a detail he includes every time he tells it. Ronda's

911
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:22.239
<v Speaker 1>is the account I'd close on because it's the report

912
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.639
<v Speaker 1>this state produces more often than any other. She was

913
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:28.079
<v Speaker 1>at a cabin near the edge of the Chippewa National

914
00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Forest during a February cold snap, and went out at

915
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:33.599
<v Speaker 1>first light to find a line of tracks that came

916
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:36.599
<v Speaker 1>out of the tree line, crossed the yard, walked up

917
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to within ten feet of the back window, stopped there,

918
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and then turned around and went back out the way

919
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it had come. The tracks aren't the part that stayed

920
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.519
<v Speaker 1>with her. What stayed with her is that she'd been

921
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:49.840
<v Speaker 1>up in the night, standing at the sink with the

922
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>kitchen light on, looking out at nothing. The historical core

923
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:57.199
<v Speaker 1>of all this isn't in dispute and needs nothing supernatural

924
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:00.119
<v Speaker 1>in order to be terrible. People starved to death in

925
00:49:00.159 --> 00:49:02.800
<v Speaker 1>these woods by the family, and some of those families

926
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.800
<v Speaker 1>ate each other, and that's written down in trading post

927
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:09.400
<v Speaker 1>journals and missionary letters and court records across the whole

928
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:13.000
<v Speaker 1>northern band of the continent. Some of the survivors were

929
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:17.000
<v Speaker 1>killed afterward by their own people, sometimes under a framework

930
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:20.679
<v Speaker 1>that named exactly what they'd turned into, and sometimes as

931
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:23.559
<v Speaker 1>a flat decision about a person who could no longer

932
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 1>be trusted around children. The teaching that grew on top

933
00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.519
<v Speaker 1>of all that, the taboo, and the insistence that the

934
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:33.880
<v Speaker 1>appetite doesn't leave when the snow does, came from people

935
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:36.679
<v Speaker 1>who'd watched the sequence run more than once and needed

936
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:40.280
<v Speaker 1>it to stop running. That's the thing the merchandise gets wrong,

937
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and it gets it wrong in a way that makes

938
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:46.599
<v Speaker 1>the story smaller. A monster that eats people for no

939
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:50.400
<v Speaker 1>reason is a costume. A monster that starts as somebody

940
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.519
<v Speaker 1>you know in a camp you're sitting in during a

941
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:57.599
<v Speaker 1>winter you're already halfway through. Is a different proposition entirely,

942
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and the people who built it understood p decisely what

943
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>they were building. Swift Runners Camp was twenty five miles

944
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:07.119
<v Speaker 1>from a post with food in it. He walked out

945
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.760
<v Speaker 1>of those woods in good condition in the spring, and

946
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:12.280
<v Speaker 1>the physical facts in that clearing are not a matter

947
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:16.719
<v Speaker 1>of anybody's belief. Somebody cracked those bones open. The rest

948
00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:18.639
<v Speaker 1>of what we have is what people bring out of

949
00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:23.559
<v Speaker 1>that country and hand over quietly, usually years later, usually

950
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>to somebody they trust, and almost always with the same

951
00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:30.280
<v Speaker 1>request attached, which is that you not use their last name.

952
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Ray never worked that section again. Marlus won't use the shortcut.

953
00:50:35.960 --> 00:50:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Faya's fifty years passed a voice in a yard, and

954
00:50:38.400 --> 00:50:40.920
<v Speaker 1>it still gets her. At two in the morning, Verna

955
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:44.119
<v Speaker 1>gave up a bedroom. Bud gave up forty acres he

956
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.400
<v Speaker 1>still owns. Gordon signed his share of a hunting camp

957
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:50.320
<v Speaker 1>over to his brother's boys and never explained it. And

958
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Dave sold a shack he'd kept for twenty years. And

959
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Andrea walks the same trails she always did, and no

960
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:59.719
<v Speaker 1>longer walks that one by herself, not one of those people.

961
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Game thing by telling it. There's one more thing. Go

962
00:51:03.320 --> 00:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>back through the swift Runner sources, and you'll find his

963
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:09.239
<v Speaker 1>name in every one of them. In four or five spellings.

964
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:12.519
<v Speaker 1>You'll find the judge's name. You'll find the name of

965
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:14.679
<v Speaker 1>the guard who spoke Kree and talked with him for

966
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:17.039
<v Speaker 1>four months, and the name of the old pensioner who

967
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:20.519
<v Speaker 1>forgot the straps. The names of the children are not there.

968
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:24.639
<v Speaker 1>They aren't in the newspaper coverage, not in the police summaries,

969
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:28.599
<v Speaker 1>not in the true crime retellings, not in the podcast versions,

970
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:31.320
<v Speaker 1>and not in this one, because I looked for two

971
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:35.000
<v Speaker 1>days and couldn't find them. There were six children, or

972
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:38.159
<v Speaker 1>there were five, since the sources can't agree even on that.

973
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:41.440
<v Speaker 1>There was a woman who was his wife, and there

974
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:43.760
<v Speaker 1>was a woman who was either his mother or his

975
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:47.320
<v Speaker 1>mother in law, and there was a brother. Eight people

976
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:50.119
<v Speaker 1>more or less, and the more or less is the

977
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:53.400
<v Speaker 1>entire point. The tradition holds that the wind to go

978
00:51:53.519 --> 00:51:57.159
<v Speaker 1>eats its own family, is never satisfied, and grows in

979
00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:01.079
<v Speaker 1>exact proportion to what it takes. Whatever happened in that

980
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:04.239
<v Speaker 1>camp during the winter of eighteen seventy eight, the record

981
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:08.159
<v Speaker 1>we assembled afterward did precisely the same thing. It ate

982
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:11.360
<v Speaker 1>the family and kept the man, and it's been feeding

983
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:14.360
<v Speaker 1>him to audiences for one hundred and forty seven years,

984
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and he's still the only person in that clearing whose

985
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:21.519
<v Speaker 1>name anybody remembers. Next stop, we head south and east,

986
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:55.320
<v Speaker 1>but just in case, you should bring a coat anyway,

987
00:53:22.760 --> 00:55:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Di Bo
