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You got to burn the village down to 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:47,039 save the village. Sometimes. This is the excuse offered up 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:53,000 in the latest round on the Talkinghead Circuit by Alex 14 00:00:53,079 --> 00:00:57,560 Thompson and Jake Tapper, still out talking about their book 15 00:00:57,719 --> 00:01:03,439 Original Sin. I've covered it extensively because and I know, 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:08,000 I got another email from somebody last week, like Joe 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,280 Biden is in president, he's give it his health conditions, 18 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,760 just shut up about him whatever. Yeah. No, it's the 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:19,040 biggest political scandal in American history as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, 20 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:21,879 it's huge, and we still don't even know all of 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,040 the details. I welcome the book. Not going to buy it, 22 00:01:25,159 --> 00:01:27,719 not going to read it, but I welcome the book. 23 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,879 I'm glad they're making their money now that you know 24 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,439 there's no price to actually pay for telling the truth, 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,680 only because I want more information, right, I want the 26 00:01:39,799 --> 00:01:44,000 historical record to reflect all of the information, or as 27 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,680 much of it as possible. And so to the extent 28 00:01:47,719 --> 00:01:52,120 that this can create a permission structure for more people 29 00:01:53,159 --> 00:01:56,680 to explain their behavior and say what they knew when 30 00:01:56,719 --> 00:01:59,840 they knew it, and all of that, I welcome, excuse me, 31 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:06,760 welcome the book. So Alex Thompson goes on to was 32 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:10,240 Oh Fox News Sunday, and he's talking with Shannon Breen, 33 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:19,800 and he says that top aids to Biden rationalized doing 34 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:26,840 undemocratic things, and not like undemocratic like Democratic Party, because 35 00:02:26,879 --> 00:02:29,560 like that's why I never call them the Democratic Party, 36 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:35,759 because they don't operate democratically. It's the Democrat Party. So 37 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:42,680 they rationalize doing undemocratic things to hide the president's cognitive 38 00:02:42,719 --> 00:02:46,840 decline because failing to do so would have been too 39 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:49,280 beneficial to Donald Trump. 40 00:02:50,719 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: You mentioned in the book you talked to a number 41 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,479 of cabinet secretaries. I thought this was extremely illuminating and 42 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,479 a little bit frightening, because some of them told you 43 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,800 they didn't think he could handle that two am, middle 44 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,120 of the night phone call. I mean, he's the commander 45 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,439 in chief of the nuclear codes. One of them talked 46 00:03:05,479 --> 00:03:08,039 about seeing him in person the last year and was 47 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:11,439 shocked by he seemed disoriented, His mouth was hanging open, 48 00:03:11,479 --> 00:03:15,800 he seemed out of it. Did those cabinet officials express 49 00:03:15,879 --> 00:03:18,360 any remorse, I mean, did they not have an obligation 50 00:03:18,439 --> 00:03:20,680 to say the American people, we don't think this guy 51 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,000 can be the president, much less run for four more years. 52 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,479 Speaker 3: There was definitely a lot of self reflection about what, 53 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,560 if anything, they should have done differently. I think there 54 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,240 was a feeling, like a lot of members the Democratic 55 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,960 Party that were seeing this or some moments of him 56 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,680 seeming out of it, that going public was not going 57 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:40,560 to change his mind and was only going to help 58 00:03:40,599 --> 00:03:43,199 Donald Trump. And I think that's how a lot of 59 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:46,479 them rationalize that. Now whether or not history will judge them, 60 00:03:46,599 --> 00:03:49,280 you know, as being right for doing that, you know, 61 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,039 we will see. But this is also part of the 62 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,360 reason why the White House was shielding him from as 63 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,240 many people as possible, including cabinet secretaries, because sometimes, you know, 64 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:00,520 you see him once, maybe it's just the bad day. 65 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,479 You can just say, like, you know, maybe I just 66 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,439 had one bad meeting. You're not really sure. 67 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: Well yeah, okay, so I'm going to make a prediction. 68 00:04:07,879 --> 00:04:11,280 And you know me, I don't really make predictions, but 69 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,240 I'm going to predict this one. History will not judge 70 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:19,439 these people to have made the right decision, okay. In fact, 71 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:22,040 people are already judging them as not having made the 72 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:27,360 right decision. This idea that oh my gosh, we realized 73 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:34,079 in twenty twenty three that he was, you know, mouth open, eyes, blank, 74 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,399 doddering around out of it. But he had already said 75 00:04:38,399 --> 00:04:40,720 he's running again. So what could we do? Yeah, you 76 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:45,759 could have actually pressured him not to run, and you 77 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,920 could have started exposing this. You could have gone out like, 78 00:04:49,959 --> 00:04:52,959 what was the guy's name. Oh, I'm drawing a blank 79 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,560 on it now, the one that ran against him in 80 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,720 the primary, Dean Phillips is that his name? And he 81 00:04:58,759 --> 00:05:02,920 you know, he's like some governor or senator somewhere. I 82 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,680 think he's a governor some small state, like maybe Vermont 83 00:05:06,759 --> 00:05:10,079 or something. And he was like, no, like, we need 84 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,439 somebody else, and they savaged this guy. The Democrat Party 85 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,000 hated him for it. Joe's gonna run again, He's totally fine, 86 00:05:19,079 --> 00:05:23,160 fit as a fiddle. And then oh, you were all lied to, right, 87 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:27,160 But if more people had come out and said what 88 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,720 they knew to be true, because they knew this to 89 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,800 be true, had more people come out and said it, 90 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:38,959 that would have brought more pressure on Joe Biden and 91 00:05:39,079 --> 00:05:43,480 his pollot bureau, as it's described in the book, to 92 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:51,399 seed power, to step aside, which they did right after 93 00:05:51,439 --> 00:05:53,800 the debate performance, and then a couple of weeks of 94 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,560 arm twisting, a little bit of a coup, you know. 95 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,759 But then they they pressured him out. So they could 96 00:06:01,759 --> 00:06:04,600 have done that a year prior, they were just too 97 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,160 scared to or they were too invested, they had incentives 98 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,040 to keep it going. Right. 99 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,079 Speaker 2: Then there's this, and it did seem like there's so 100 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,959 many people who you would have fought would have access 101 00:06:14,959 --> 00:06:17,160 to him who didn't because of this inner circle that 102 00:06:17,199 --> 00:06:19,959 really much managed his schedule and his time and his 103 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,759 access in a way that didn't give a lot of people, 104 00:06:22,399 --> 00:06:23,199 you know, one on one. 105 00:06:23,079 --> 00:06:23,639 Speaker 1: Time with him. 106 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: In the book, you quote a long time Biden aid 107 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,759 basically admitting he shouldn't be running again. They said to 108 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,120 you on page eighty five, he just had to win, 109 00:06:31,319 --> 00:06:33,800 and then he could disappear for four years. He'd only 110 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,240 have to show proof of life every once in a while. 111 00:06:36,639 --> 00:06:39,160 His aids could pick up the slack who would have 112 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:41,560 been running the White House in a second bind term. 113 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,519 Speaker 3: Well, this person went on to say that when you're 114 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,759 voting for a president, you're voting for the aids around him. 115 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:49,560 But these aids were not even Senate confirmed aids. These 116 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,279 are a White House aids. These were unelected people. And 117 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,920 one of the things that really think comes out and 118 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,519 are reporting here is that if you believe, and I 119 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,199 think a lot of these people do sincerely believe that 120 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,439 Donald Trump was and is an essential threat to democracy, 121 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,759 you can nationalize anything, including sometimes doing undemocratic things, which 122 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,639 I think is what this person is talking about. 123 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: There you go when you cast your opponent as literally hitler. 124 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,959 I've been saying this since Donald Trump came down the 125 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,000 escalator and was attacked and called all of these terrible names. 126 00:07:24,879 --> 00:07:28,160 You know, through the punch a Nazi. It's okay to 127 00:07:28,199 --> 00:07:31,199 punch Nazis and all of that. You're a fascist, You're 128 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:34,839 a Hitler. You're you know, the worst of the worst, 129 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,680 and all of your followers are too. When you start 130 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:42,519 down that path, then you once again create a permission 131 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:49,360 structure for all sorts of things that are offensive, that 132 00:07:49,399 --> 00:07:55,240 are disturbing, disgusting, that you shouldn't be engaged in. But 133 00:07:55,319 --> 00:07:57,759 you're okay, well, I have to do this thing, because like, 134 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,240 I would never kill a baby, but if I had 135 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,759 a time machine, I would go back in time and 136 00:08:02,839 --> 00:08:05,279 kill baby Hitler. But it would be a baby, and 137 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:08,680 I don't I would never kill any other baby, just 138 00:08:08,759 --> 00:08:12,800 this one, right, you start making these types of argue. 139 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:15,639 This is this is one of the in philosophy classes, 140 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:21,399 you test these types of hypotheticals, and the baby Hitler 141 00:08:21,439 --> 00:08:28,600 one is an old one because you're testing morality and 142 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:33,120 you're testing you know, people's source of ethics and such, 143 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:37,399 and you call this guy Hitler. And now all of 144 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,919 a sudden, anything is allowed, including what we all could 145 00:08:42,919 --> 00:08:47,720 see with our own eyes. Elder abuse, trotting this guy 146 00:08:47,759 --> 00:08:52,000 out on stage, keeping him hidden away for most of 147 00:08:52,039 --> 00:08:55,879 the time, giving him the list of questions and who 148 00:08:55,919 --> 00:08:59,480 to call on, lying to everybody about what we're seeing 149 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,919 with our own eyes. As gas lighting American public, rigging 150 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:09,559 your own Democrat primary, like you will do anything because 151 00:09:09,639 --> 00:09:15,440 Donald Trump is an existential threat, as the abusive boyfriend 152 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:20,679 in the documentary Forrest Gump said when excusing his own 153 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,679 abuse of his girlfriend Jenny, who was the real villain 154 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,399 of that movie. But he says, it's just this war 155 00:09:27,759 --> 00:09:30,919 and that slb Johnson, Like, that's the reason I beat you. 156 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,600 It wasn't my fault. See, it's this other person's fault. 157 00:09:35,759 --> 00:09:38,480 It's this other circumstance that drove me to do the 158 00:09:38,639 --> 00:09:43,360 terrible thing. Yes, it also sounds a little bit like 159 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,200 our sheriff Gary, not my fault McFadden as to why 160 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,519 he uses racial slurs against his command staff, because they 161 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:56,600 they just got him so frustrated, Right, It's darvo, reverse 162 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:03,279 victim and offender. It's what narcissists and sociopaths do. All right. 163 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,120 If you're listening to this show, you know I try 164 00:10:05,159 --> 00:10:06,919 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 165 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,039 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 166 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,279 say get your news from multiple sources. 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I think this was Thompson, and they 188 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,559 said that Biden just had to win and then he 189 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,120 could disappear for four years and just every now and 190 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,360 again pop up for proof of life and the AIDS 191 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:45,519 could pick up the slack. What is that an acknowledgment 192 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:52,320 of his cognitive decline? Right, So this idea of it 193 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,200 nobody knew what was going on is a lie. They 194 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,919 did know what was going on. They just weighed again 195 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:04,080 the existential threat of Donald Trump, and so it's better 196 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:11,360 to have a cognitive vegetable and everybody around him lying 197 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:16,600 to three hundred and fifty million Americans about his vegetative state, 198 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:27,480 that that was acceptable because Orange man bad. Hey, this 199 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,200 is this is it's so beyond. This is why it's 200 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,480 the biggest scandal that I'm to believe that only a 201 00:12:34,519 --> 00:12:37,600 couple people around Biden were making that exact same calculation. 202 00:12:38,159 --> 00:12:41,200 Of course, not that's what the media was thinking too, Right, 203 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,960 that's it's all the same reason. And we all knew this, 204 00:12:45,159 --> 00:12:47,799 we could all identify it. We can all assume this 205 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,960 motive that they wanted to win so badly. They were 206 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,440 so afraid of Donald Trump beating Joe Biden, that Joe 207 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,919 Biden had won. Joe Biden was the only one that 208 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,279 could beat Donald Trump, because he's the only one who 209 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,639 did last time, and so we have to keep him 210 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,399 going even though he can't keep going, and it doesn't 211 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,879 matter his health be damned. Right, think about the amount 212 00:13:09,919 --> 00:13:13,679 of stress that job puts on a person. We've all 213 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,399 seen the before and after pictures, right. Guys go in 214 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,639 and they're like, hey, look at me. I'm young and exuberant, 215 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,559 diet of a full head of hair. It's not gray 216 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,879 at all. And then they come out like they've been 217 00:13:23,919 --> 00:13:28,200 through a ringer because of the amount of stress and 218 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:33,840 the crazy hours. It's a very demanding job mentally, physically. 219 00:13:34,919 --> 00:13:39,559 And their ideas that will pick up the slack, that 220 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:43,000 will be the president, We'll just do so much stuff 221 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:45,039 that even if he doesn't know what day it is, 222 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,159 or where he is or who he is or whatever, 223 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,240 it won't matter. And so you can't tell me that 224 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,799 they weren't already far along down that slope already to 225 00:13:56,879 --> 00:13:59,759 say we'll pick up the slack, because they already had been. 226 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,480 They already had been doing these things. Here's Jake Tapper 227 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:08,840 and Alex Thompson on the podcast hosted by Stephen A. Smith. 228 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,799 Speaker 4: I will say, Stephen, and we never got somebody that 229 00:14:13,919 --> 00:14:17,639 said we should never have done this. I can't believe 230 00:14:17,639 --> 00:14:21,519 we did it. In retrospect. It was a mistake. How 231 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,320 arrogant we were. I mean even you know, there was 232 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,519 a top eight to top point House aid who acknowledged 233 00:14:26,519 --> 00:14:30,559 to me that this short ten to fifteen minute interview 234 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,240 I did with Joe Biden in October twenty twenty two 235 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:36,559 he would not have been capable of doing in October 236 00:14:36,559 --> 00:14:40,000 twenty twenty three. That admission was stunning to me. But 237 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,720 it did not come with and we really made a mistake. 238 00:14:43,759 --> 00:14:47,519 We shouldn't have run him. What an error. I can't 239 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:49,799 believe we did it. It didn't come with that. It came 240 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,480 with you know. And but we thought that he was 241 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:54,559 the only one that could be Trump blah blah blah. 242 00:14:54,600 --> 00:15:00,080 So I think that most were telling the truth as 243 00:15:00,159 --> 00:15:02,799 much as they had come to terms with it themselves. 244 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:08,080 But I do wonder where they will be in a year, 245 00:15:08,759 --> 00:15:10,919 because you know, I heard from one of the people 246 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:14,200 that one of the Democrats I interviewed for the book, 247 00:15:15,159 --> 00:15:18,200 who gave me one of the most shocking revelations, And 248 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,840 I checked in and how are you doing? And you know, 249 00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:24,720 they're they're upset, but they're not upset at us. They're 250 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,919 not upset at the book. They're just upset that it happened, 251 00:15:28,039 --> 00:15:31,480 and now everybody has to everybody's talking about it. So 252 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:33,759 I still think that there's there were I think they're 253 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:36,919 still working through a lot, don't you. Yeah, there's gradations of. 254 00:15:36,799 --> 00:15:43,399 Speaker 1: Honesty, gradations of honesty. But what is Taper saying? They 255 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,480 have no remorse? And he said, oh, maybe they'll you know, 256 00:15:47,559 --> 00:15:49,639 as they kind of work through this in a year, 257 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,600 they'll think differently. No, they won't. Why would they. We 258 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:58,120 are always the heroes or the victims of our own stories. 259 00:15:58,159 --> 00:16:01,639 We are never the villains. They do not see themselves 260 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:06,519 as the villains. They're not thinking like the meme, Are 261 00:16:06,559 --> 00:16:11,639 we the baddies? They're not thinking like that. They're like, 262 00:16:11,919 --> 00:16:13,960 he's the only one that could beat Trump. We had 263 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,480 to do it. Existential thread. I mean, yes, it was distasteful. 264 00:16:18,519 --> 00:16:20,840 And while I may feel a little bad about, you know, 265 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,840 the little white lie that the president could not perform 266 00:16:24,879 --> 00:16:29,120 the duties of the office. Okay, fine, I felt bad 267 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,799 gaslighting Americans over whether or not Joe Biden was nibbling 268 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,360 his wife's finger, which should have been the cover of 269 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,320 the book but was not. But it was all for 270 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,879 the greater cause. We had to defeat the orange hitler. 271 00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:49,840 So there's no remorse here right at all. And the 272 00:16:49,879 --> 00:16:52,399 reason why this is such a scandal, and there are 273 00:16:52,799 --> 00:16:57,159 multiple scandals involved. You've got obviously the pollit Bureau of 274 00:16:57,159 --> 00:16:59,120 the Inner Circle, but then you also have the media 275 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,720 who knew what and when nobody is by the way, 276 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,039 nobody has tracked down any of the reporters that obviously 277 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:08,359 submitted their questions ahead of time to the White House 278 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,400 in order to get called on for the press conferences. 279 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,880 And we know the reporters who had to do that 280 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,680 because they literally were called on during the press conferences. 281 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:21,119 The what too that Joe Biden held? And you know, 282 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,000 we've got a photo I forget I think she I 283 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,720 forget what outlet she's with, But we have the card 284 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:31,160 Joe Biden holding the card with her picture, her name, 285 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,119 her outlet, and the question. We have a picture of it. 286 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,400 So why isn't anybody trying to track her down? Why 287 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,599 can't she do a story or explain how that came 288 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:50,559 to be? Because that's the other scandal. But then deeper 289 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,079 is who the hell has been signing all of the 290 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,400 laws and the executive actions? And then the next question 291 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:06,480 is are those legal? Because if I'm non compassmentis and 292 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,240 I am not able to sign documents legal documents because 293 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:16,200 I am cognitively impaired, and somebody tricks me into signing it, 294 00:18:16,559 --> 00:18:22,599 or somebody signs my name instead, that contract is not binding. 295 00:18:24,039 --> 00:18:29,119 What happens then, well you may be interested to know this, 296 00:18:29,279 --> 00:18:34,920 if you haven't already heard, we have a whistleblower, the 297 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:40,039 Department of Justice official Ed Martin, who is now a 298 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:45,319 pardon attorney, and he is leading a weaponization task force. 299 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,920 He has named three of the big Kahunas in the 300 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:58,480 alleged scheme, the Autopen President Autopen, who Art thou, Anita Dunn, 301 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,799 Bob Bauer, and Ron Klain, although he does add a 302 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:07,960 couple other names into the list a little bit later 303 00:19:08,079 --> 00:19:18,039 here Steve Roschetti and Jill Biden start. 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My issue is how they chose him 334 00:21:04,519 --> 00:21:07,079 in the first place. Anyone right, I said this the 335 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,319 other day, like the Original Sin was putting him on 336 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,079 the ballot in twenty twenty. Anyone who allowed his career 337 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,359 or followed his career knew that he was never sharp 338 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,079 or capable. His decline between the end of the Obama 339 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:25,000 presidency and the Democrat primary was obvious. Other candidates and 340 00:21:25,039 --> 00:21:28,039 even some media were talking about it right up until 341 00:21:28,039 --> 00:21:31,240 the South Carolina primary. It will be very hard to 342 00:21:31,279 --> 00:21:33,880 convince me they didn't run him in twenty sixteen because 343 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,319 he wasn't capable and the staffers in inner circle would 344 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,480 use him as the face while they ran the country, 345 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,200 just like the staffer in the book said, I really 346 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,480 believe that was always the plan. So there were brief 347 00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:50,319 moments we covered this a couple I guess last week 348 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:56,480 there were brief moments when people were talking and media 349 00:21:56,839 --> 00:22:02,000 would do stories about Joe Biden's aid and I repeat, 350 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:07,039 it's not about his age. Somebody can be older than 351 00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:13,680 Biden but mentally more aware, more with it right. Somebody 352 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,039 can be younger than Joe Biden and be in worse shape. 353 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,279 So age is not the issue. The issue is his 354 00:22:21,519 --> 00:22:26,480 cognitive ability. And there were brief windows where people in 355 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,480 media would talk about it, but talk about it as 356 00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:34,000 his age. And it was during the primary wheneverybody's like, oh, 357 00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:36,640 that's just old Joe. He's doddering old man or whatever. 358 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,039 And then he gets the nomination. Then all of that 359 00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:45,240 gets the kibosh. No more reporting on the age. Then 360 00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:49,720 in twenty twenty two, when there were rumors that he 361 00:22:49,839 --> 00:22:51,839 was going to pass the torch because he kind of 362 00:22:51,839 --> 00:22:53,480 sort of said he was only going to be a 363 00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:55,799 transitional president, and everybody took that to me and he's 364 00:22:55,799 --> 00:22:58,400 only going to do four years. And then halfway through 365 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,519 Hunter Biden's got all of his and it's like, Okay, 366 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,759 we're gonna need some pardons and stuff, so I'm running again. 367 00:23:05,319 --> 00:23:09,799 And then before he makes the announcement, people started then 368 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,359 gently nudging, oh, you know, he's maybe too old now, 369 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,200 I mean, good job and knocking out Trump, but maybe 370 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,160 somebody else and all this, and then of course they 371 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,400 go after Trump and they start prosecuting him for stuff, 372 00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:27,960 and his approval numbers sore, and then it's like, oh, no, no, 373 00:23:28,279 --> 00:23:32,720 Joe the savior of the democracy. Joe is the only 374 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:35,720 one that can beat him. And it just so happens 375 00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:38,400 that everybody around him really likes having the power they 376 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:44,680 had and the protection the lifestyle. So now age is 377 00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:46,920 off the table again, no more talking about his age. 378 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,880 There are there are a series of stories. I'm not 379 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,680 gonna yeah, I'm not gonna have time to get to 380 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,200 him today to do them full justice. But here's the 381 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:05,200 headline to russ your point here from Yeah pjmedia dot com. 382 00:24:05,799 --> 00:24:11,160 The Democrats declare war on the Obama boys, and the 383 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:18,279 Obama wing of Democratic Party is losing power and prestige 384 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,759 because the media doesn't want to blame themselves, right, So 385 00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:27,559 they're trying to offload at all of the bidens, and 386 00:24:27,599 --> 00:24:30,519 at some point everybody's pointing at these other people that 387 00:24:30,559 --> 00:24:36,920 were responsible for all of it. But you also have 388 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:41,119 the Obama handlers, the Obama So I was unaware of 389 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,359 this until literally this morning. But apparently there were motorcades 390 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,440 that would run from the White House to the Obama 391 00:24:49,519 --> 00:24:53,880 residence in DC in the mornings at like seven am. 392 00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:58,079 Did you know that a motor caid of four black 393 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,960 SUVs would drive from the White House go to the 394 00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:05,160 Obama's house and an hour later they would go back. Oh, 395 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,920 I'm sure it's nothing right. Just check it on the 396 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,920 house for the Obamas while they're out of town. I'm 397 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,720 sure that's what that was all about. Or they're coordinating 398 00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:18,960 the day's strategy. Could that be it? Obama made comments 399 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,839 about this like, oh, it'd be nice to have somebody 400 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,400 in place and me just you know, be behind the 401 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,640 scenes for a third term and you know, basically running 402 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,680 the show. And that's kind of sort of what it 403 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,839 looks like he got. So yeah, one of the people 404 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,160 with the auto pen Anita Done. Eric asks on Twitter, 405 00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:38,519 it's a Pete tweet. Eric says, Anita Done, as in 406 00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:42,640 the lip smacking mal worshiper who had to resign from 407 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,920 the Obama administration because she was such an insane leftist 408 00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:52,160 that Anita Done. Yes, that's the same Anita Done, ed Martin. 409 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,119 Now Trump's Parton attorney, revealed this week that his investigation 410 00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:00,440 into the use of the auto pen to sign all 411 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,160 this stuff while Biden was president has actually been underway 412 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,200 for weeks. He's been doing this for weeks. He has 413 00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:11,279 reached out to members of the Biden family that some 414 00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:16,119 persons of interest have lawyered up and that a whistle 415 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:21,559 blower has already come forward with some troubling allegations. Quote. 416 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,440 I had a whistle blower in my office ten days ago, 417 00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:31,599 senior Senior Democrat, saying, quote, look, it was these three 418 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,319 people that controlled access and they were making money off 419 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,960 of it. I played the clip a couple of days 420 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:45,000 ago Congressman Burshett out of Tennessee, or Burchette, and he 421 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:47,200 talked about an old governor they had there who went 422 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:53,720 to jail for a cash for clemency scandal. They're making 423 00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:58,559 money off of it. He said this to Mark Calprin 424 00:26:58,599 --> 00:27:02,279 on Helperin's Two Way to Show, saying, quote, I don't 425 00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:04,359 know if I believe it yet, but the point is, 426 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,279 I think we have to get to the bottom of 427 00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:08,640 it for the American people and to protect the process, 428 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,759 and that's what we are doing. Martin indicated that the 429 00:27:11,759 --> 00:27:15,880 whistleblower was involved with the twenty twenty Biden campaign at 430 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,599 the highest levels. Ed Martin is now the DOJ's pardon attorney. 431 00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:23,880 And then he threw two other names into the mix, 432 00:27:24,039 --> 00:27:28,400 Steve Roschetti, the former counselor to Joe Biden who previously 433 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,319 served as chairman of Biden's twenty twenty presidential campaign, and 434 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:39,720 quote obviously Jill Biden. And speaking of the auto Pen, 435 00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:44,880 a pro Energy group is renewing its call for an 436 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:50,480 investigation into over half a dozen Biden administration executive actions 437 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,119 related to climate change that it believes should be deemed 438 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,200 null end void due to them being signed by an 439 00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:01,319 auto pen without any public common and from former President 440 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,839 Joe Biden confirming his knowledge of them. See, there's an 441 00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:07,000 easy way to get to the bottom of all this, right, 442 00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:12,039 Just get everybody under oath, Get him into depositions, Get 443 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,440 him to say, when you sign this particular executive order 444 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,240 the Arctic drilling band, what was the conversation you had 445 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,519 about that, Who made that decision, who signed in all 446 00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:25,839 of that. Get everybody on the record under oath. That's 447 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,640 what needs to happen, all right, So spring is here 448 00:28:28,759 --> 00:28:33,759 a time of renewal and celebrations. You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries, 449 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,359 and the special days for mom and dad. Your family's 450 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,359 making memories that are going to last a lifetime. 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The pro energy nonprofit is called 472 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,200 Power the Future. I think you have to say it 473 00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:07,400 like that. It's in the they're bylaws. They advocate for 474 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:13,359 American energy jobs. They reviewed eight Biden executive orders that 475 00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:18,519 it says were significant shifts in domestic energy policy, and 476 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:21,960 they say they found no evidence of the President speaking 477 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,119 about any of them publicly, which raises concerns that the 478 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,680 orders were signed by Autopen. That's President Autopen to you, 479 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:35,599 and that he was not aware of the executive orders. 480 00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:40,039 This is not a conspiracy theory at this point. People, 481 00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:43,640 we know the autopen was used, We know the people 482 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,160 who had access to it and who used it, according 483 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:54,319 to senior aids in the Biden administration, So which ones 484 00:30:54,359 --> 00:31:00,160 did they sign? These are not obscure bureaucratic memos. These 485 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,119 were foundational shifts in American energy policy, yet not once 486 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,359 did Joe Biden speak about them publicly. That's according to 487 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,960 Daniel Turner, the founder and executive director of Power the Future. 488 00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:17,720 The executive orders reviewed by Power the Future, I'm just 489 00:31:17,759 --> 00:31:19,920 not going to keep doing it. But I'm in violation 490 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,480 of the bilaws, but I don't care. The executive orders 491 00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:26,519 reviewed by Power the Future included an Arctic drilling ban 492 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,880 in twenty twenty three, an executive order in twenty one 493 00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:34,880 that commits the federal government to net zero emissions by 494 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:41,799 twenty fifty, an executive order mandating clean energy AI centers, 495 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,640 and then there was the offshore drilling ban that was 496 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,839 issued right before he left office in twenty twenty five 497 00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:53,000 because he didn't want to do it while he was president. 498 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,160 So he's going to just pull the pin on that 499 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,960 grenade and throw it into the next administration and let 500 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,519 them have to deal with the blowback when they undo it. 501 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,400 Oh my guys, you're killing the planet. Geyah Earth screams 502 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,440 out for relief. Right. But he didn't do it. The 503 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,480 whole four years he was in there, he never spoke 504 00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:16,240 about any of it. Did he even know these things 505 00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:20,759 got signed. They did not give Joe Biden. This is 506 00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:23,480 from earlier reporting. This is way before the original Sin 507 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,200 book stuff came out. But they were not giving Biden 508 00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:32,319 negative polling information. They were hiding information from Joe Biden 509 00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:35,279 about his own polling, which is why he thought that 510 00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:38,920 he could totally take Trump again. He can carry my 511 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,759 golf bag, right, Like, yeah, he thought he could take 512 00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:44,640 out Trump again because they would never show him the 513 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,359 polling that showed he was down to Trump. So what 514 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,200 else did they keep from him? Finding no evidence of 515 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,519 Biden publicly speaking about the executive orders on climate? How 516 00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:59,799 are the future sent letters this week too, the DOJ, 517 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:03,039 the EPA, the DOI, the DOE, along with the House 518 00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:06,440 and Senate oversight committees, and they're calling for an investigation 519 00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:12,119 to determine who made these decisions, who drafted the executive orders, 520 00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:17,720 and then who signed them, who used the auto pen which, 521 00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:21,079 by the way, given Joe Biden's physical frailty, we have 522 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:26,920 to keep in mind the possibility that he used the autopen, right. 523 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,079 I mean that, like I don't know, I don't even 524 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:33,519 know how an autopen works, you know, like how big 525 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:36,039 of a contraption is it? Does it require dexterity or 526 00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:38,039 something or is it just like press a button? Because 527 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,400 so maybe he just would press the button. Maybe he 528 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:42,839 liked pressing the button. Maybe that's why we ended up 529 00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:46,079 with so many executive orders. They just kept putting stuff 530 00:33:46,079 --> 00:33:47,720 in front of me. He's like, ah, this is fun. 531 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,880 Oh look at that. Oh doubt Oh press it again. 532 00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:57,440 Oh look at that. So that's possible. The presidential auto 533 00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,119 pen has been a topic of conversation with Republicans in 534 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,279 recent weeks and months, as questions continue about Biden's mental 535 00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:07,839 acuity during his presidency, particularly the last few years. By 536 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:13,079 the way, this again from Fox News. An autopen is 537 00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:16,840 a device that physically holds a pen and is programmed 538 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,400 to replicate a person's signature. The Justice Department's Office of 539 00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:24,880 Legal Counsel determined in two thousand and five that the 540 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,519 president is allowed to use an auto pen to sign 541 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:31,559 bills into law, and the US Court of Appeals for 542 00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:35,519 the Fourth Circuit issued a ruling in February that said 543 00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:39,400 the absence of a quote writing does not equate to 544 00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:44,559 proof that a commutation did not occur. Right, So there 545 00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:48,239 was this lawsuit over you know, did you have to 546 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:51,559 you have to write on it for to be real, 547 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,480 for it to be binding. This a commutation was the 548 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,119 point of conflict here, and the Court of Appeal said, 549 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,880 auto pen's fine, right, But I think the idea is 550 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,639 that the president is using it right, or at least 551 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,239 is aware that it's being used. In March, Trump claimed 552 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,519 that Biden's pardons of lawmakers who served on the House 553 00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:17,360 Select Committee to investigate J six and others are void, 554 00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:20,159 alleging they had been signed via an autopen and that 555 00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:23,679 Biden did not even know about them. Despite Trump's concerns 556 00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:26,559 over the validity of the Biden pardons due to the 557 00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:30,320 alleged use of an autopen, constitutional scholar Jonathan Turley says 558 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,960 that the odds of successfully legally challenging them in court 559 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,440 are vanishingly low. And to be clear, that's not what 560 00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:40,559 I'm arguing. Doesn't matter to me about the legality of 561 00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:44,480 the autopen. I want to know who autopenned every one 562 00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:49,159 of those executive actions, all of them. Presidents are allowed 563 00:35:49,199 --> 00:35:51,280 to use the autopen, and courts will not presume a 564 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,639 dead hand conspiracy. Turly said, right, but what if there 565 00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:57,639 is evidence of a conspiracy? Because there is evidence of 566 00:35:57,679 --> 00:36:04,400 a conspiracy here, what then? Turley? All right, that'll do 567 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,960 it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. 568 00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:09,199 I could not do the show without your support and 569 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,960 the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, 570 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,400 so if you'd like, please support them too and tell 571 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,159 them you heard it here. You can also become a 572 00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:20,840 patron at my Patreon page or go to dpetecleanershow dot com. Again, 573 00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,639 thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything 574 00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:27,199 while I'm gone.