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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out going deeper.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Matt, and I've got a great show

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<v Speaker 1>her appearances on such websites as bang dot com and

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<v Speaker 1>join me and welcoming these spectacular Hailey Spades. Haley, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you tonight? Hello?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great. Are you.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad? I'm not bad. We're both we're both a little

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<v Speaker 1>banged up today on separate coasts, I would assume. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to just struggle through this and hope that

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<v Speaker 1>your beauty carries us through. Yeah. Yeah. Let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you your initial entrance into any kind of the adult

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment industry camming stripping point, what was your I done.

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<v Speaker 2>It for me? It was stripping really, I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I tried out camming actually like bury you

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<v Speaker 2>like like freshly eighteen, but then I couldn't really like

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<v Speaker 2>get my footing with it, so I started stripping and

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<v Speaker 2>then full you know, full circle here we went back

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<v Speaker 2>to content and camming and now I'm doing Born, so

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<v Speaker 2>full circle with all that, with all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>How old were you the first time you went and

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<v Speaker 1>decided you were going to be a stripper.

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<v Speaker 2>I was eighteen, okay, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean I think about and there's no offense

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<v Speaker 1>and you are still very young. I think about how

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dull I was at eighteen years old? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>did you make? What was it? I it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>last fight because I've ten thousand questions rushing to my

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<v Speaker 1>face all at once. Was it a higher end club

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<v Speaker 1>or like a starter type club?

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<v Speaker 2>For it was I would say like higher end. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I was in New Orleans, so it's there's a

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<v Speaker 2>degree of higher end in New Orleans, right, But it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a dive. It wasn't like a little like

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<v Speaker 2>truck stop club, which I have worked at those and

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<v Speaker 2>they're actually fun. But I kind of went ahead first

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<v Speaker 2>right into like the Larry Flint's Hustler Clubs in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I went over to the pet House Club,

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<v Speaker 2>So two very like big name clubs.

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<v Speaker 1>What was something you didn't expect when you first entered

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<v Speaker 1>into that. I've said this every interview I've done, because

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<v Speaker 1>I've always begun with stripping for some reason. I think

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<v Speaker 1>just a lot of performers start out in stripping, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think strippers are the greatest salespeople outside of I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you know, pharmaceutical salesp or some redictus. Whoever's

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<v Speaker 1>pumping oxygonton. They're doing fine, But I think strippers are

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<v Speaker 1>just the best. At My favorite thing to see is

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<v Speaker 1>a guy sitting in theer and he's like, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>here with my friends. I'm not gonna I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have drinks, not doing anything. And then on this third

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<v Speaker 1>trip to the ATM, I'm just like, oh, girl, got him,

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<v Speaker 1>got them, got them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the thing for me, for me, like, what's

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<v Speaker 2>shocked me the most, I think was how many people

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<v Speaker 2>actually just wanted to hang out and just talk.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I hear that too. I hear girls say,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, the most I ever made was X

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<v Speaker 1>amount of thousands of dollars and it was in a

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<v Speaker 1>VIP room. I'm like, what must there? I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>it must have got fucking spicy in there. Tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, no, he just wanted to talk and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like look at my feet for six hours. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>have you had what what was like the weirdest request

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<v Speaker 1>you ever got? If you had one? And again it's

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<v Speaker 1>a higher end club, so it's probably not as fun

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<v Speaker 1>as the truck stop club requests, But what was like

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<v Speaker 1>the weirdest request you've ever gotten at the club?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't think it was really like weird

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<v Speaker 2>to me. That's why I'm like, I can't really I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really know, like because I don't really I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really think any think it was super weird. I would

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<v Speaker 2>just say like, for the most part, like I think

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<v Speaker 2>I always thought it was weird when like groups would

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<v Speaker 2>come in and then they would all like be like no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>don't don't look at me, look at him, and they'd

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<v Speaker 2>just like pass you on and on, and then like

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<v Speaker 2>you would get stuck with like this one guy who

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<v Speaker 2>clearly did not want to be there, and like his

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<v Speaker 2>friends are like telling you, like come on, force him

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm like, I don't want to do that, don't

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<v Speaker 2>like aggressive or like come on, like show him a

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<v Speaker 2>good time. They hand me like two dollars. I would say, like,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing was really weird. I just think it was weird

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<v Speaker 2>when people would just kind of like push the girls

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<v Speaker 2>like to the next one in their group because nobody

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to spend money, but like they wanted all the

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<v Speaker 2>attentional one. But I don't know, I just think it

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<v Speaker 2>was very weird, you know, like it was like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be here. Like it was like

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, are you gay? Like do you not

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<v Speaker 2>like women? And one time changes life and I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to change his life.

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<v Speaker 1>I Uh, my wife and I were written together forever

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<v Speaker 1>now right, and early on I quit my retail job

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<v Speaker 1>and I took probably sick strip club rookies out with

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<v Speaker 1>my wife to a fully nude Byob club in Philadelphia. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I went down the line. At the end of the night,

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<v Speaker 1>I everyone had dances except for me. All this go.

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<v Speaker 1>They did a whipped cream show where you can pick

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<v Speaker 1>two girls, you can pick which hole, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>patrons can pay twenty dollars to lick it off. Which

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<v Speaker 1>I always found a little on savory but fun. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>all of them had licked it. Da da da da,

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<v Speaker 1>this and that. I did the count at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the night. This person spent twenty dollars, this person

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<v Speaker 1>spent thirty dollars, this person spent forty dollars, and I

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<v Speaker 1>spent four hundred and sixty dollars at a shrimp club,

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<v Speaker 1>having gotten no dances myself, just showing people a good time, right, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what a strip club is doing. Yeah. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>when dudes are disrespectful or even like like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they suck so much from you, Like they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you need change his life, you need to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>make him read it getting married. You're like, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not here to ruin a marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, I'm standing here gorgeous as I am and topless,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly fully new. You don't have to keep passing me off.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just stand in the middle. You all stand there.

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<v Speaker 2>Until somebody decides that they want me at this point

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<v Speaker 2>or like yeah, I just like I always thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was weird to me. It's like how everybody's like scared

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<v Speaker 2>almost like initiate, you know, like they're like, oh, word,

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<v Speaker 2>a strip club. I'm not going to be the one

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<v Speaker 2>to get like like, okay, you know those are like

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<v Speaker 2>a restaurant, like, I'm not. I'm not here to get food.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just here.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the same guys in your Twitter comments who

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<v Speaker 1>are like, I'd folk you so much better, you know

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<v Speaker 1>I would. The shyness of people like in person is

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<v Speaker 1>shocking me. But you know you get a pretty girl game.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk all that game. I'm sure, buddy, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So you tried camming first obviously didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's freshly eight and I had no idea what I

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<v Speaker 2>was getting myself into. I was just lost.

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<v Speaker 1>So me let me ask you, and please only divulge

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<v Speaker 1>what you're comfortable divulging here. But like no other plane,

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<v Speaker 1>do you decide that you weren't going to do college

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<v Speaker 1>or you did do college?

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<v Speaker 2>I finished college.

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<v Speaker 1>I got wonderful, wonderful Okay, So you did bachelers and marketing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was I was stripping through college.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, right, okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was stripping through college and then I graduated

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there an intention to eventually use that marketing degree?

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<v Speaker 1>Or would you would you like to have the money

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<v Speaker 1>back that you spent on college.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I would definitely like to have that money back

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm paying off i Suter loans. I really own

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<v Speaker 2>nine thousand. It's not that bad something. But I have

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<v Speaker 2>friends who have ninety thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have friends who have two hundred and fifty thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I havely nine thousand or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for me, like I just followed like the

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<v Speaker 2>normal trajectory of like go to college, you know, do

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<v Speaker 2>what everybody else doing. So I was doing that. And

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<v Speaker 2>initially I went into college going into like science, I

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<v Speaker 2>was I was like I was getting all of my

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<v Speaker 2>general classes out of the way. But at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>like so like I had committed to a certain degree

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<v Speaker 2>subject whatever. But I started to doubt myself. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I had all these friends in like the business school

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<v Speaker 2>inside and they're like, oh, so easy ball. I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>it's so versatile, and I was like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I guess I'll just do something that

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<v Speaker 2>like I feel like I could fall back on it

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<v Speaker 2>if I needed, like something just simple, right, not something

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<v Speaker 2>like stressful. Also, like I just didn't know what I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do. So as I was in college. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really know what my plan was. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to finish when I started, right, So I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>let me just finish and then figure it out and

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<v Speaker 2>then now I'm important.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know what though, I mean from my perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you picked just about the best major for

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<v Speaker 1>this industry for sure. But I would suggest any new

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<v Speaker 1>girls coming into it looking if you are like committed

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<v Speaker 1>like Haley was here finishing college, go go to school

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<v Speaker 1>for marketing, and my advice take all your electives as

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<v Speaker 1>like Adobe, Premiere Pro, Photoshop, shit like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I would have done stuff like that, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>This what I want to talk about your content later

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm a little shocked in a good way by something,

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk about that in the second segment. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it's just like your job is equal part

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<v Speaker 1>sex and equal part marketing. It feels like pushing yourself

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<v Speaker 1>out there because you can have the best, most incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>sexiest scenes in the world and if they get six

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<v Speaker 1>views somewhere, it doesn't mean shit. Right, So how do

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<v Speaker 1>you make sure do you do collaborations with only other

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream people or other content creators, like if you found

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<v Speaker 1>the content creator who maybe isn't mainstream but has a

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<v Speaker 1>breadth of work, you know, something they could really show.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you be comfortable working with that person? I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I only work with established professional usually I've already

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<v Speaker 2>met on like a mainstream set, right, so I see

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<v Speaker 2>how this person is like, and I see how how

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<v Speaker 2>they act towards me, and I see their character, right

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<v Speaker 2>instead of just being like, oh, this person's online, like

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<v Speaker 2>they have this many follower like to me, I if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not comfortable, if I don't feel like I want

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<v Speaker 2>to actually shoot with somebody, like, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>like a set, so but like those are like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of I don't know Sacramento that has ten followers. It's

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't like their content style, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna shoot, I'm not gonna just not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do it right. I I have a brand, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>To do it right, right? Yeah? Yeah, don't make content

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<v Speaker 1>just to make content, you know, make which again was

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<v Speaker 1>the part that I was surprised about, which I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>think the highest quality I've ever seen. We'll we'll we'll

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<v Speaker 1>delve into that a little more when we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>your scenes and stuff like that. But let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this again. Only say what you're willing to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you grow u uh okay New Orleans? You said, yes, okay, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. Are there smaller portions or is it all

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<v Speaker 1>just New Orleans?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean New Orleans is New Orleans, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>So but like we all say like the New Orleans

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, gotcha? So how many guys from your high school

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<v Speaker 1>are signed up for your only fans?

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<v Speaker 2>I could imagine a lot because I actually I actually

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<v Speaker 2>get people from college and from high school that messaged

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<v Speaker 2>me and they're like, oh my god, there's somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>messages me all the time on Twitter and they're like

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<v Speaker 2>this person was like, oh my god, I should have

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<v Speaker 2>I should have shot my shot with you when I

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<v Speaker 2>sat behind you in this class. So I definitely get

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of those people. I think most of them

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<v Speaker 2>are too shy, but I mean there's some that are

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<v Speaker 2>like I sat right behind you in this schools.

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<v Speaker 1>I do another show called Brand New Faces, where I

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<v Speaker 1>reach out and find new performers who are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell or committed because they're making content, but

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have a lot of followers. They don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of so I try and use a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of my audience to bring some people to them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I always tell them I think it's the funniest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So many new girls could clean up on OnlyFans if

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<v Speaker 1>they went to their Facebook and just posted, hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on only fans, now check this out, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>know you have to be committed. You sure to be committed.

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<v Speaker 1>H yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But if you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you would just immediately get some I always

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<v Speaker 1>find that so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you you know the curiosity that people have naturally,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're like, oh, I want to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you a cool kid? Were you a nerd? Were

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<v Speaker 1>you fun? Were you athletic? What were you?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't think it was any of those.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just kind of like there, like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't I didn't fall into like a certain

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<v Speaker 2>category when I like in like school right growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>I never really did. I didn't do sports. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>like a nerd. I wasn't like the super popular person.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like there, yeah, So did you have

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<v Speaker 1>a good high school experience?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? I mean I didn't have my you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't reach my peak in high school, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>But I had a really sweet high school sweetheart who

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit popular. So I was like with

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<v Speaker 2>the popular crop, I wasn't popular. Just there. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I had a generally like I couldn't say it was

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<v Speaker 1>Just high school. No, yeah, yeah, I've always heard horrors.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard horror stories about two things that I've never

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<v Speaker 1>had a horror story on high school and the DMV.

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<v Speaker 1>DMV has always been fine for me. Every time I horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not gonna wa yeah yeah, yeah, well no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>not a horror.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just people always like, oh, I got

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in this group as I floated them, Hey nerds,

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<v Speaker 1>athlete whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't have like, yeah, I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 2>certain click surely, so I was just like I'm here.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. We are going to take a quick break.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today, Hailey Spades. You can find her own

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<v Speaker 1>OnlyFans at Hailey Spades. Links to all of our social

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<v Speaker 1>media is going to be in the episode description. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>a game for you. Would you say, what is the

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<v Speaker 1>I don't so many important stars I talk to love

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<v Speaker 1>watching their own stuff. I can't, okay, okay, I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>tell you how terrible it's gonna be when I have

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<v Speaker 1>to listen back to this and I don't hear your

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<v Speaker 1>voice when I hear me talking. It's just the most

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<v Speaker 1>upsetting thing in the world, seeing or hearing anything I do.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna subject you to that. Today. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a game called I said, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like it when you're any girls talk to you?

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<v Speaker 1>famous porn star? I have to identify your own work.

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<v Speaker 1>I have three audio clips for you. Okay, your job

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<v Speaker 1>play the clip, I'll give you three options to pick from.

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<v Speaker 1>You let me know which scene you think it's from.

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<v Speaker 1>You know big I looks next to my little pretty

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like we don't really like say stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was good logic used there. Let me play for

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<v Speaker 1>your clip number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, we'll come back to I'm a fan. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you looked like you didn't even realize you said

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, man, Haley, your content I put it up there.

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<v Speaker 1>The only one I would say is is close to comparable.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is no offense to anyone else. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>Penny Barber produces some really high end come I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you really?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a videographer? Okay, I have somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>I want like all of this to like look very

420
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<v Speaker 2>very good, and so then I feel more motivated, right,

421
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<v Speaker 2>like more in too, like what I'm shooting versus just

422
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<v Speaker 2>like oh, I come over and iPhone.

423
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<v Speaker 1>It sure, sure, yeah, I have like a production right,

424
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<v Speaker 1>and then these are fool I mean, I'm just like

425
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<v Speaker 1>I have your mini VIDs on another screen over here,

426
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<v Speaker 1>you know, not a bad view. It's insane even just

427
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<v Speaker 1>this Alice toys herself in Arcade again now watching the

428
00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:46.240
<v Speaker 1>content at the moment, I'd get too distracted. But it's

429
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<v Speaker 1>like a movie, I mean real movie movie shit, Like,

430
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is high quality. So that was your

431
00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:53.960
<v Speaker 1>intention coming into this, I assume, right, does that go?

432
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<v Speaker 1>How far back does that go in your career? Was

433
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<v Speaker 1>there a green light moment when you were like, I

434
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<v Speaker 1>just don't like how I'm being represented on this type

435
00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.720
<v Speaker 1>of scene and from now on? Or was it before

436
00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:04.400
<v Speaker 1>you even started?

437
00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:08.079
<v Speaker 2>It was before I got incorn. So when I started

438
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<v Speaker 2>doing like OnlyFans, right cause I, like I said, like,

439
00:22:10.519 --> 00:22:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I had an interest in the camming world, so I'd

440
00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:15.720
<v Speaker 2>already seen like the quality, like the variations, right and quality.

441
00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:21.160
<v Speaker 2>And then when I started OnlyFans, I had the camera

442
00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.839
<v Speaker 2>that I'm actually using right now. I had this camera

443
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<v Speaker 2>purchase because I was trying to my boyfriend at the time,

444
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<v Speaker 2>we were like trying to like make flog content I

445
00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:34.720
<v Speaker 2>don't know, and he yeah, he was like a like

446
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<v Speaker 2>an up and coming DJ. So like we were like

447
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<v Speaker 2>trying to get really good quality media right for like

448
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<v Speaker 2>both of us in that time. But when I started

449
00:22:43.839 --> 00:22:45.960
<v Speaker 2>doing Only Fans, I was like, Okay, I started to

450
00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:48.279
<v Speaker 2>get a little bit more into like the lenses, Like

451
00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:50.319
<v Speaker 2>I started realizing, like what kind of lens I wanted.

452
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a pro, I I this this lens. I'm like,

453
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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what kind of lens I'm using

454
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<v Speaker 2>right now, but it's a good one sure, But I.

455
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<v Speaker 1>Mean you look great. Yeah, your sound is good like you.

456
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<v Speaker 1>That's why I asked, no offense if you were kind

457
00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:06.359
<v Speaker 1>of a nerd when you were younger, because your tech,

458
00:23:06.599 --> 00:23:08.440
<v Speaker 1>all of your tech is fucking top.

459
00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:10.720
<v Speaker 2>I was a gamer when I was younger. I wouldn't

460
00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:11.880
<v Speaker 2>really like say I was a nerd.

461
00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:13.519
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I don't want to call you a nerd.

462
00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:15.519
<v Speaker 2>But I have like a piece. I mean, I'm okay

463
00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:17.039
<v Speaker 2>with being a nerd, but I just I didn't really

464
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<v Speaker 2>fit like the nerd the category. But I yeah, so

465
00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:24.319
<v Speaker 2>I when I started Only Fans, I was like, if

466
00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:26.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna make content, I need to look good, right,

467
00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:30.079
<v Speaker 2>And I was just that was like something I initially

468
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<v Speaker 2>like took very seriously from the start. You know, I

469
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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm not gonna put out something where I

470
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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's not flattering, it doesn't look good, like

471
00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:39.960
<v Speaker 2>especially like seeing me in such like a vulnerable like light,

472
00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:43.119
<v Speaker 2>like I'm naked and I'm getting fucked. I don't want

473
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<v Speaker 2>it to look.

474
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<v Speaker 1>Bad, right, right, What was your first break when you

475
00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:52.799
<v Speaker 1>realized like, oh, this is this is gonna gonna work,

476
00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:55.519
<v Speaker 1>Like this is really gonna work. This is not gonna

477
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<v Speaker 1>be Like when did you first get like ten thousand

478
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<v Speaker 1>followers in a day and you were just like, oh shit,

479
00:24:01.119 --> 00:24:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I am blasting off here.

480
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<v Speaker 2>Well, I I think I only had around like I

481
00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:09.039
<v Speaker 2>had less than twenty thousand when I joined porn when

482
00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:13.480
<v Speaker 2>I was just doing content. But I think like I'm

483
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<v Speaker 2>trying to like I'm trying to like piece it together

484
00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:20.480
<v Speaker 2>because I always got like a lot of like followers

485
00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:23.200
<v Speaker 2>when I shot for companies like Browsers, right, So I

486
00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:24.799
<v Speaker 2>think as soon as I saw like I think it

487
00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:27.759
<v Speaker 2>was like a ten or twenty thousand jumping like a day,

488
00:24:28.160 --> 00:24:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I was like whoa, But it was like people like

489
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<v Speaker 2>me and so like I just kind of stuck with

490
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<v Speaker 2>it because I was always busy and I'm still to

491
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<v Speaker 2>this day three and a half years in very busy sale.

492
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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, is that what you just keep yourself busy though?

493
00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, is that how you stay sane? Again,

494
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<v Speaker 1>I told you, I have like twenty interviews the rest

495
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<v Speaker 1>of this week, plus a day job, plus my wife

496
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:50.559
<v Speaker 1>is having surgery in two weeks, so we have doctor's appointments.

497
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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like if I'm just sitting around, I

498
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:56.799
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm wasting. Like I could be editing something,

499
00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:58.519
<v Speaker 1>I could be looking at something, I could be sending

500
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:02.400
<v Speaker 1>emails out to somebody trying to book them. It seems

501
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:05.519
<v Speaker 1>like you're a very driven person, right Yeah.

502
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:09.160
<v Speaker 2>But with that though, does come burnout. So for me,

503
00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:11.079
<v Speaker 2>I have to find like the balance, and that's something

504
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<v Speaker 2>I'm still to this day, like figuring out I'd like

505
00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:17.279
<v Speaker 2>to say busy obviously, who doesn't Who likes I like

506
00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:19.960
<v Speaker 2>having like something that I'm like working towards, like having

507
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:22.720
<v Speaker 2>a goal, Like I just like accomplishing things right, And

508
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:27.000
<v Speaker 2>so for me, if I if I go too hard though,

509
00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I will like eventually just like completely be like I

510
00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:31.480
<v Speaker 2>don't even want to shoot for a month, which is

511
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:34.359
<v Speaker 2>what happened in March. I did not shoot the entire

512
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<v Speaker 2>month of March because I just went so hard in February.

513
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<v Speaker 2>While I was in Europe, I was shooting almost every day.

514
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:40.759
<v Speaker 2>I was doing a lot of deep, a lot of

515
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<v Speaker 2>anal and so when I got back to the States,

516
00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:46.759
<v Speaker 2>I was like nobody even look at you know, like

517
00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even want to create content like I I

518
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:51.599
<v Speaker 2>was just like very like drain. I was just happy

519
00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:53.839
<v Speaker 2>to be home. And I was like I was very

520
00:25:54.119 --> 00:25:57.160
<v Speaker 2>like happy, and you know, I loved being busy. But man,

521
00:25:57.400 --> 00:25:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the burnout I had I was pretty bad. And like

522
00:26:00.039 --> 00:26:02.160
<v Speaker 2>even going into April it was started to get better,

523
00:26:02.200 --> 00:26:04.799
<v Speaker 2>like I started shooting again, but even then, I feel

524
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<v Speaker 2>like it took may like this month when I was

525
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:08.880
<v Speaker 2>like ready to start going ham again, right.

526
00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:10.759
<v Speaker 1>And that's just a feeling where you're just kind of like,

527
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but for me, when I get to

528
00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:14.720
<v Speaker 1>that level, I'm just kind of like I got to

529
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<v Speaker 1>do something, like something, whatever it is.

530
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<v Speaker 2>I gave myself like two months to kind of like

531
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:23.039
<v Speaker 2>fuck off, and I was okay, okay. I was like, yeah, Hayley,

532
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:25.200
<v Speaker 2>you need to get your shit together a good.

533
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<v Speaker 1>So you said you was shooting over in Europe. I

534
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:30.759
<v Speaker 1>see a lot of girls go to shoot over in Europe?

535
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<v Speaker 1>Is that who's that with?

536
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>So there's a couple of agencies. I'm free agent here

537
00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:37.599
<v Speaker 2>in the States, I used to have an agent, but

538
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:40.119
<v Speaker 2>I am free agent here. I'm fully self booking, so

539
00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I handle all my own bookings. But when I wanted

540
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<v Speaker 2>to go to Europe, I had to like reach out

541
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:46.359
<v Speaker 2>to the few agencies that are over there and see

542
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<v Speaker 2>who wanted to represent me. All of them did. I

543
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:55.079
<v Speaker 2>ended up settling basically on one real Babes and they've

544
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<v Speaker 2>been the best to me and they get me so

545
00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.680
<v Speaker 2>much work. But I was able to self book something there,

546
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 2>but for the most part it was all through real

547
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:06.759
<v Speaker 2>babes or Nicky's Models.

548
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, I don't think women understand how much coming

549
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>into this industry work is also into it. At some

550
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>times that wasn't really a sentence. I'm also having burnout

551
00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 1>as well. I don't think some women realize how much

552
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>work actually goes into it. Some I've interviewed a lot

553
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 1>of like hot eighteen nineteen year old girls who are like, oh,

554
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:30.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll come in, I'll post a couple pictures

555
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.400
<v Speaker 1>of myself and then I'll just get fifty thousand followers

556
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and top one percent and blah blah blah. And can

557
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:39.559
<v Speaker 1>you please explain to everybody listening as I do every episode,

558
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:42.880
<v Speaker 1>how much work actually goes in before you start hiring

559
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>agents or I don't know if you do a social

560
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.160
<v Speaker 1>media manager or anything like that, but how much work is

561
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<v Speaker 1>involved prior to all of those things.

562
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:53.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's so much work first, I would say, I mean,

563
00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:56.759
<v Speaker 2>getting an agent, I would say was probably the first

564
00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 2>thing I did when I joined the porn right because like,

565
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:01.480
<v Speaker 2>how are you how are you even gonna get your

566
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:05.559
<v Speaker 2>name out there and experience, you know, like actually being

567
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:07.759
<v Speaker 2>in front of the camera. But I think from there

568
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:10.400
<v Speaker 2>people don't realize like, Okay, like I have to be professional,

569
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:13.519
<v Speaker 2>I have to build rapport, I have to build relationship

570
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.720
<v Speaker 2>relationships within this industry. And then I also need to

571
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:20.039
<v Speaker 2>like stay relevant, you know, and I gotta like, like

572
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:23.079
<v Speaker 2>could like continue to produce content and also promote yourself

573
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:25.039
<v Speaker 2>and because you don't want to get lost like in

574
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 2>the background, and then building those interpersonal relationships in the

575
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:32.400
<v Speaker 2>industry is actually so so important. I can't tell you

576
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 2>how many times I get told wow, your breath of

577
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:37.440
<v Speaker 2>fresh air, like like you show up on time, you

578
00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>come here, you have a great attitude versus like girls

579
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.480
<v Speaker 2>or like I don't want to see like girls, Like

580
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>people who are in the industry as a whole, they

581
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:50.039
<v Speaker 2>might like show up like I don't know, rying because

582
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:52.400
<v Speaker 2>like they like thirty minutes like crying, so like my

583
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>my partner was yelling at me and then they're like

584
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:56.640
<v Speaker 2>they're like a whole mess like on and like they're

585
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:58.359
<v Speaker 2>just like frantic and like for me, I'm like no,

586
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm like and I think so I would I would

587
00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:04.079
<v Speaker 2>say that's actually one of the biggest things that I

588
00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:07.720
<v Speaker 2>find is something like I have something that matters in

589
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.440
<v Speaker 2>the industry, and that's something that takes a lot of work.

590
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Like like so going to these agents in Europe, I

591
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>had like they gonna know who I was, but like

592
00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>they were able to like do some research on me

593
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:19.960
<v Speaker 2>and they were like okay, yeah, like we'll get you booking.

594
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>So they were taking a gamble on me. And and

595
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:29.519
<v Speaker 2>if you burn bridges, you're it's very hard to build

596
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:30.240
<v Speaker 2>that bridge back.

597
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah okay, yeah, maybe maybe.

598
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:35.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, And I would say I would say that's

599
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:38.079
<v Speaker 2>like the hardest thing like people don't realize like it.

600
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:43.039
<v Speaker 2>You actually need to be like a kind, professional, respectful

601
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:45.200
<v Speaker 2>person to even get anywhere in the industry.

602
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:49.039
<v Speaker 1>And that's what people don't realize so much. I think

603
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I agree with the one thousand percent I did. I

604
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:56.559
<v Speaker 1>started the show by cold emailing like five hundred different performers.

605
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>One pr agent saw we were doing stuff than the

606
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:02.839
<v Speaker 1>next PR agent. Once they're people, and then it just grows,

607
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:07.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, But it's so funny. I always I just

608
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>love hearing people be like porns so easy. Look how

609
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.359
<v Speaker 1>lazy this girl is. So what you're telling me is

610
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you have to perform a talent on camera. You then

611
00:30:16.720 --> 00:30:18.680
<v Speaker 1>have to do all of your own marketing and stuff

612
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:20.119
<v Speaker 1>like that. If you don't again, if you don't have

613
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a manager, uh, you yourself are a free agent self booking.

614
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>So you have to make sure all that shit's lined up.

615
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 1>You have to ensure all the editing and everything like

616
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.319
<v Speaker 1>that production wise is done. But then also how about

617
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the admin work, making sure everything's signed, making sure everything's

618
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>uploaded properly. Easy job, Hale, a real easy job. I

619
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:42.359
<v Speaker 1>can't believe you're so lazy.

620
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then making sure everybody like you know you're

621
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>on like good terms of people. I mean, to some

622
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:49.559
<v Speaker 2>people that's important, but to me, I think that's I

623
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>think it's so important. Like when I see people just

624
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:55.799
<v Speaker 2>basically like go off on the deep end, like on

625
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:58.240
<v Speaker 2>social media or like getting into fights or just like

626
00:30:58.519 --> 00:31:02.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, like bashing each other, I'm like, you, what

627
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>are you doing? I'm like, why are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>Because to be like, that's it's one of the main

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<v Speaker 2>reasons too, Like I don't really like socializing so much

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<v Speaker 2>within the industry because I find that not everybody's on

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<v Speaker 2>that same professional like level that I hate to say,

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<v Speaker 2>like my professional level. They're nowhere near.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's true though, like because for me, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I just see so much happening and I can't really

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<v Speaker 2>like relate. Like to me, like drama's not important. What's

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<v Speaker 2>important is building good work relationships. And you know that's

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<v Speaker 2>what's gonna get you the furthest I think, like it's networking.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you if you if you can't network, if

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<v Speaker 2>you can't talk your way you're basically and make people

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<v Speaker 2>like you enough to climb, you're gonna have a really

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<v Speaker 2>hard time climbing.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, all right, we're gonna take one more break

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<v Speaker 1>care we'll come back with my guess, Hailey Spades. Make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you check the episode description for links to all

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<v Speaker 1>of her social media. Most importantly, though, I want you

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back one more game and we'll wrap

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<v Speaker 1>this up.

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<v Speaker 5>Gun Tracks, keep it in all night and get back

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<v Speaker 1>Com, and we're back my guest today Haley Spades and

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<v Speaker 1>on Only Fans at Haley spades. Are you good with letters, Haley,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? Yeah, it's a ridiculous question. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like letters, but like mail? No, no, no, like just

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<v Speaker 1>ABC letters. Yeah, okay, all right, all right, then let's

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<v Speaker 1>play it lude letters. Have you ever played S categories before?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So I'm going to give you a question.

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<v Speaker 1>You give me the answer. That's generally how games work.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a short question. It'll be something like a

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<v Speaker 1>name a car company. Okay, go ahead, name a car, Alexis,

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<v Speaker 1>name a type of phone iPhone. There you go, boom

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<v Speaker 1>two for two right there. The problem is your answer

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<v Speaker 1>can only begin with one letter. Okay, all ten questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Your letter was randomly selected before the show. It's s

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<v Speaker 1>as in spades. Okay, okay, you'll have, because I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a hack doing things for attention, sixty nine seconds on

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<v Speaker 1>the clock to answer ten questions correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Time. It will start at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>first question. Everything you say from this point on can

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<v Speaker 1>only begin with S. Nah real bad, yeah, yeah, yeah. Three?

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<v Speaker 1>Two Name a sex position or act standing, name something

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<v Speaker 1>to drink, sprite, name a body part to come on,

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<v Speaker 1>shin a female, name.

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<v Speaker 2>Thearrah.

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<v Speaker 1>Name a porn website. Uh shit, Oh no, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. Ship dot com qualifies. You can pass. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>come back to it. We'll come back to it. Number six.

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<v Speaker 1>Name a fashion brand?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh uh Sephorah, No, no, no, no, let's make up.

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<v Speaker 1>Next one. Something you like about a male performer a

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<v Speaker 1>bright s sucks ten seconds left? Name of food brand?

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<v Speaker 1>Five or three?

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<v Speaker 4>Two?

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<v Speaker 3>Tough?

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<v Speaker 1>I just I'll count it. I'll count it still versus good,

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<v Speaker 1>tough day to be hungover. So let's see. Uh you

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<v Speaker 1>said shin for name of body part to come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a smile, scalp or skin. Uh. Name a

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<v Speaker 1>porn website smashed dot x x x. I believe you

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<v Speaker 1>were on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think yeah, I think I was on that. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like one of the new teams on New Biles. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Name a fashion brand Steve Madden speary.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Two words, yeah, it begins with the ass.

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<v Speaker 2>He used that it can't be two words? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>had to be one word?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I never I never said the word too. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not go back and listen to one word. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a short answer. Something you like about a male

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<v Speaker 1>performer his smile. Maybe I don't know. It begins with

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<v Speaker 1>an as name a food brand. You said, stove for spam,

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<v Speaker 1>skippy smuckersok.

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<v Speaker 2>A while I was like, it was like, I don't cook.

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<v Speaker 1>So for a tie breaker. According to i a f

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<v Speaker 1>d dot com, which is the Internet Adult Film database

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<v Speaker 1>as of this record, how many male performers have you

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<v Speaker 1>worked with?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, he asked me how many restaurants I've

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<v Speaker 2>eaten that it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just gonna do closest to it now. I'm gonna say, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy ninety four.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that's a lot. I was gonna say one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, there's no way.

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<v Speaker 1>Let the nuns know, all right, so let's make them happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the content. You just shot a scene

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<v Speaker 1>that I assume you had to sit on a bag

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<v Speaker 1>of frozen peas for at the end of it. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it on your Twitter today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what actually pretty good?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Oh I you know, I don't think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a bad scene at all with the talent.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Like I was good though we didn't I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have any injuries. I actually the day after that, I

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<v Speaker 2>flew to Miami for ex visit everybody was like, are

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<v Speaker 2>you destroyed? Actually, no, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you what is the biology of that? You appear

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<v Speaker 1>to be tiny, tiny, tiny? I don't know how kay

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<v Speaker 1>skow tall you are. I'm four foot eight. That's Are

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<v Speaker 1>you legal? Can you get like a parking permit for that?

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<v Speaker 2>I could if I wanted. I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 2>to like to the doctor and fill out a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of paperwork.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's okay, I'll park a little further away,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so serious.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you know how insulting it would be if

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<v Speaker 1>the gorgeous Hailey Spades got out of a fucking handicapped

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<v Speaker 1>spot while some lady in a wheelchair was looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a spot. That would be terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>I would feel bad, Yeah, I would feel bad, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me anal, it's just I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>can take bigger dig easier. I think my body like

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<v Speaker 2>my anatomy, right, And also it feels better.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard that from so many It's like something happened

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and one or twenty twenty one, where

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<v Speaker 1>like every girl I've been interviewing since then, I went

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<v Speaker 1>to Catholic school for twelve years. Okay, Anna was like,

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<v Speaker 1>away you kind of get out of you know, pissing off.

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<v Speaker 2>God.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, every girl I've talked too recently, He's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>ay know, so much easier. And I'm just like I

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<v Speaker 1>understand the physics of it. You only go so deep

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<v Speaker 1>here and you go, you know, all the way up

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<v Speaker 1>to your mouth over here. But at some point, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like your organs are being rearranged?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because the dick can't. Well, I feel like my

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<v Speaker 2>organs are being more rearranged when it's in my pussy,

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<v Speaker 2>like I for me, I actually like yeah, like like

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<v Speaker 2>I get more sore in my pussy than actually in

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<v Speaker 2>my ass, and then I just feel like I enter

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<v Speaker 2>a different mindset when it's in my ass, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just I feel like it just it does feel completely

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<v Speaker 2>different and it feels better for me. It really does.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was a surprise. Actually when I started doing anal,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like WHOA. I was like, oh A, new

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<v Speaker 2>worlds And like when I shoot DP is like I

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<v Speaker 2>I love DP. I prefer dep over anal by itself,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do feel like the contrast and like how

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<v Speaker 2>it feels when a dick is in my pussy and

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<v Speaker 2>my assy, like when it's like that close together, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like back and forth like the same time, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you usually look like it hurts the moviment in my

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<v Speaker 2>pussy and it's a big dick. It takes me a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit longer, I guess to adjust like it happens,

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<v Speaker 2>but like at first, like it's not comfortable, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like in my ass it's also probably because I've

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<v Speaker 2>just done a lot of anal training, right, but also

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm more comfortable with anal, so I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just able to relax and I can just handle

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<v Speaker 2>bigger dick in my gass.

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<v Speaker 1>What entails anal training? Is it just different plug sizes?

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<v Speaker 1>Like are you the same thing as like gauging your ears?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you working your way up? Wow? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And then uh so yeah. I would use like dilaty plugs.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I started practicing like like anal with like

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<v Speaker 2>uh boyfriend Dix basically like like the like like with performers.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be like dicks, some were not intimidating, They're

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<v Speaker 2>not dread just like a normal dick. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to put it in my ass? And

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<v Speaker 2>just like you please want to fuck my ass? And

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<v Speaker 2>like no, no, No.

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<v Speaker 1>That I would be funny, be like, no, my uddy, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>do a passer over there, just like the clubs early on.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll do it, he'll do it. No, get him, he's

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<v Speaker 1>the birthday boy. Let him fuck. He wants to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that's how I like started doing it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just kind of worked my way up and I

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<v Speaker 2>took my time, and I was not in a rush

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<v Speaker 2>to hit any major like oh, like taking dread for

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<v Speaker 2>your first anal.

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<v Speaker 1>I was not.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not a goal of mine. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to actually enjoy my anal journey.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have milestones you want to hit? Though? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love the artist aspect where to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree the same thing. I am not thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>my next however many interviews. My concentration is right now,

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Haley Spades, get the best possible content I

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<v Speaker 1>can out of this. So, yeah, do you have milestones

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<v Speaker 1>you want to hit though? Like I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to you. I only want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you right now. I don't think about getting

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<v Speaker 1>this person on. Getting this person on eventually, it's awesome

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes down the line. But if you keep

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<v Speaker 1>making quality content people will stay around. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>milestones you try and reach for?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I don't really think I have like a specific milestone,

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<v Speaker 2>because I, for one, I just want to keep pushing myself,

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<v Speaker 2>like I want to see how far. Like That's why

839
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:18.199
<v Speaker 2>I went to Europe, right, I just want to see it.

840
00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:19.760
<v Speaker 2>And like I don't mean like, oh my God, like

841
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:24.159
<v Speaker 2>piss all over there. I don't mean like super hardbore.

842
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:26.599
<v Speaker 2>I just mean like I want to see like how

843
00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:31.119
<v Speaker 2>far I can actually go. And because I'm always surprising myself,

844
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 2>so I think I'm always trying to keep myself surprised.

845
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:36.679
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm like in Europe, I did my first double badge.

846
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Didn't plan on doing that, but I did it, and

847
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:42.639
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I did my first double badge, right,

848
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.960
<v Speaker 2>And it's I think for me, is like a milestone

849
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:49.239
<v Speaker 2>and just be like I need to keep one upping myself.

850
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 1>What's the okay? So if it's not a milestone, what's

851
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.119
<v Speaker 1>the next type of scene that maybe you haven't shot yet,

852
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:58.800
<v Speaker 1>or that you're interested in shooting that you really want

853
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:01.199
<v Speaker 1>to like, talk my agent as soon as something.

854
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:05.440
<v Speaker 6>Okay, I love you. I have a real I Ever

855
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 6>since I was little, I was like I really love

856
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:11.480
<v Speaker 6>a facial It always just like makes me excited to

857
00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:13.599
<v Speaker 6>see that. I don't know if it's the contrast, it's

858
00:43:13.599 --> 00:43:15.239
<v Speaker 6>not the humiliation that's my thing.

859
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 1>So bukaki is just like it's it at once. It's great.

860
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:23.519
<v Speaker 1>I actually interviewed Jim Powers, the director from the late

861
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:28.039
<v Speaker 1>nineties early two thousands who brought Bukkaki to the United States,

862
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:31.599
<v Speaker 1>as I believe it was a Japanese practice prior to that.

863
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.159
<v Speaker 1>You're a gamer girl. What kind of guys do you

864
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>get hitting you up? Because a lot of your brand

865
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:43.239
<v Speaker 1>is is your brand to me is like cute, tiny

866
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:47.840
<v Speaker 1>can apparently take monstrous things inside your body, but also

867
00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:51.880
<v Speaker 1>like cool, like you have gamer You said you know

868
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:56.199
<v Speaker 1>gamer girl, right right, So do you have gamer guys?

869
00:43:56.239 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 1>Like do you do customs? I should ask? Or do

870
00:43:58.960 --> 00:43:59.159
<v Speaker 1>I do?

871
00:43:59.199 --> 00:43:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I do?

872
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

873
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean for the most part, I think I do

874
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.480
<v Speaker 2>appeal to like the whole stepsister realm I get. I

875
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:10.559
<v Speaker 2>think that's the biggest type of request. I guess they

876
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:16.400
<v Speaker 2>do like step family things, So I guess I would.

877
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.199
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like I probably have a younger like audience.

878
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:22.199
<v Speaker 1>Like for sure twenties maybe.

879
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I wouldn't really say like, oh, like they're nerdy,

880
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:29.079
<v Speaker 2>their gamer. It's mainly everybody's like I want you to

881
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:30.360
<v Speaker 2>pretend to be my stepsister.

882
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:34.079
<v Speaker 1>Do you okay not to fuck up your business at all?

883
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:36.519
<v Speaker 1>Do you like the step sister? Do you like this

884
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:38.800
<v Speaker 1>step thing? Okay, very vocal about it.

885
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 2>How I do not like it? Actually, that's actually why

886
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I started doing anal too. I got so sick and

887
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:47.440
<v Speaker 2>tired of stepsister, stepsister, stepdaughter, step I don't know, step cousin.

888
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:50.519
<v Speaker 2>I was a step cousin, went you know, I got

889
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:52.480
<v Speaker 2>so sick.

890
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Step cousin three times removed, Like how far away are

891
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.280
<v Speaker 1>we getting from the family line here? When does it

892
00:44:57.280 --> 00:45:00.760
<v Speaker 1>become not taboo anymore? Got sorry? I apologize you were

893
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:01.559
<v Speaker 1>getting so sick of it.

894
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I was getting so sick of it, and like I

895
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:06.079
<v Speaker 2>get it, it's a big market, but I think it's

896
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:09.400
<v Speaker 2>so overdone. And I don't even mean like oh like

897
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:10.840
<v Speaker 2>it's the same thing over and over. I just mean

898
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 2>like I am wasting my time if I'm rinse and

899
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:17.280
<v Speaker 2>repeating the same fucking thing. Otherwise, like you're not seeing

900
00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>my full potential if I'm just doing this fucking same

901
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.000
<v Speaker 2>thing over and over and over. So for me. I

902
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.920
<v Speaker 2>feel like the step family thing is very isolating. It

903
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:26.719
<v Speaker 2>puts you in like it's this tight little box. It's

904
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:29.320
<v Speaker 2>very hard to get out of that, and it can

905
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:33.239
<v Speaker 2>just get so fucking old, you know, and it's like

906
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:34.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like, I know there's a market for it, but

907
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:37.000
<v Speaker 2>like I think it just becomes like a certain point

908
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:38.480
<v Speaker 2>where like like when I'm showing up to a set

909
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:41.400
<v Speaker 2>and I'm handed a script and I see step I'm like,

910
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:43.440
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, Like I really I if I roll

911
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 2>my eyes and I'm like oh, Like to me, I'm like,

912
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:49.280
<v Speaker 2>that's not I would rather not have, Like I'd rather

913
00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:52.239
<v Speaker 2>be like fuck yeah, I'm excited. No, the step shit

914
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:54.719
<v Speaker 2>is just so fucking old, and I'm sick of it.

915
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:55.039
<v Speaker 1>I am.

916
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:56.239
<v Speaker 2>I've been very vocal about it.

917
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Do you like the acting portion though, of porn shooting

918
00:45:59.679 --> 00:46:01.800
<v Speaker 1>man Born or would you rather just get to it?

919
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I do like the acting part. I'm just so

920
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:06.840
<v Speaker 2>sick of the step family thing.

921
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:09.679
<v Speaker 1>You know what, do you have any idea what that

922
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:12.280
<v Speaker 1>comes from for people? Because again I don't judge anyway.

923
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:14.320
<v Speaker 1>As long as everyone in the room is eighteen plus

924
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and there's no animals, I'm like, yeah, great, we're all good,

925
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.760
<v Speaker 1>do whatever you like. I just don't. Why can't you

926
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:24.320
<v Speaker 1>just have like, you know, if it's a step mother

927
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:28.840
<v Speaker 1>hot milf uh and if it's a girl like you, Yeah,

928
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 1>why is it not like you know, newbile whatevers or

929
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>whatever tag you want to put at the beginning, I

930
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:35.760
<v Speaker 1>don't understand. I just don't. And then we've been so

931
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:38.320
<v Speaker 1>saturated with it. It's like I don't believe that's my

932
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 1>step mom anymore. I don't think that is okay. I

933
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:44.760
<v Speaker 1>just I'm not believing it. I'm just seeing hot lady,

934
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:45.159
<v Speaker 1>hot guy.

935
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like I don't know, for me, it just

936
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:52.199
<v Speaker 2>it just gets so right and like the acting part's fun,

937
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:55.199
<v Speaker 2>but I think, like I said, I'm not showing my

938
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:58.880
<v Speaker 2>full potential. And that's like, uh. That's also why like

939
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I started to get interested in anal because I was

940
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I realized. I was, like, you know, if I do anal,

941
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's gonna put me in like another category,

942
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:09.559
<v Speaker 2>not like mill teen, but like a hardcore like because

943
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:12.559
<v Speaker 2>like typically, like I mean not, I'm not saying like

944
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.559
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't exist, but I find that a lot of

945
00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:18.360
<v Speaker 2>step family porn doesn't.

946
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:20.039
<v Speaker 1>Usually involve anal really it's like.

947
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.039
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like too like too much going on.

948
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:23.800
<v Speaker 2>You're like, you're like, all right, I'm already sucking my sister.

949
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm bucking my sister in her ass. But you see,

950
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:29.199
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you had like too much and it's

951
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and it's not realistic for most people. So I don't

952
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't see it too too often. And all my

953
00:47:35.519 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 2>anal scenes have not been.

954
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Sister.

955
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:40.880
<v Speaker 2>It's all been like I have been a sugar baby.

956
00:47:41.239 --> 00:47:43.199
<v Speaker 2>I have been an influencer.

957
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I have been.

958
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:48.960
<v Speaker 2>M I think like a tutor, like I've been other things, right,

959
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.360
<v Speaker 2>not somebody's stepsister, And that's refreshing.

960
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>That's refreshing, Haley. As we come to the end on this,

961
00:47:56.039 --> 00:47:58.880
<v Speaker 1>what are some things we have coming up? So you

962
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:00.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted to you said you said at one point you

963
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:01.800
<v Speaker 1>would love to shoot a b a cocky. I would

964
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:05.880
<v Speaker 1>love to pay to watch that. Anything down the pike

965
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:08.280
<v Speaker 1>where you're like, this is a big either a big

966
00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:10.360
<v Speaker 1>scene coming up for you, not so much mainstream. I

967
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:13.320
<v Speaker 1>want to know, like, do you have anything exciting coming

968
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:17.719
<v Speaker 1>up that you find more exciting than anything else. You're like, oh,

969
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:20.039
<v Speaker 1>this day, this day, this day, I have that, but Friday,

970
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:22.960
<v Speaker 1>fuck I got this thing, and don't say this interview

971
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:24.920
<v Speaker 1>because I'll be real upset with you if you lie

972
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:25.199
<v Speaker 1>to me.

973
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:30.719
<v Speaker 2>No, So I'm going back to Europe in July and

974
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I am shooting three days with Dorsell and I'm very

975
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:38.559
<v Speaker 2>excited for that. It's like, uh, you know, that's like

976
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the just like the Vixen brain, like just it's beautiful work, right,

977
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:47.480
<v Speaker 2>and I am very grateful that they want to shoot me.

978
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:49.440
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what it is yet, but it's

979
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:50.920
<v Speaker 2>three days in a row, so it sounds like it's

980
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:54.599
<v Speaker 2>a big production and Dorsell stuff is just so beautiful.

981
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:55.840
<v Speaker 2>So I'm excited.

982
00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:59.559
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm excited for you. Last question and then we're

983
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:01.400
<v Speaker 1>going to un have this one up. What is a

984
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 1>type of scene that is it's hard to explain this,

985
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.599
<v Speaker 1>but quote unquote vanilla within the industry, either a type

986
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:11.440
<v Speaker 1>of scene or a whatever that you're just not interested in.

987
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:13.880
<v Speaker 1>And then aside from the step stuff that we just

988
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>literally spent five minutes discussing, but what's something that you're

989
00:49:17.519 --> 00:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>just like, I can't see myself doing a type of

990
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.639
<v Speaker 1>scene like that? Is there anything or will you try anything?

991
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Girl as a whole?

992
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Now, okay, so let me are you not? Are you girls?

993
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.679
<v Speaker 2>I consider myself. I don't really like when I say,

994
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:34.320
<v Speaker 2>like I'm bisexual, Like I definitely lean more towards men.

995
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:38.360
<v Speaker 2>But like last night I had a three song with uh,

996
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.800
<v Speaker 2>one of my good friends and her boyfriend. Right, So

997
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:43.480
<v Speaker 2>like for me, like I love to play with girls,

998
00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:45.239
<v Speaker 2>but like I can't just just meet and the girl.

999
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I get bored and I think it's too vanilla, and

1000
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:52.079
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just I'm not gay clearly, you know.

1001
00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 2>For me, I'm like, the people are like, ooh, like,

1002
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:58.119
<v Speaker 2>let's be it. I'm like maybe I'm like whatever. I

1003
00:49:58.159 --> 00:49:59.599
<v Speaker 2>think it's really boring. And it's also why I don't

1004
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:03.119
<v Speaker 2>shoot girl Girl, and I typically don't jump back girl

1005
00:50:03.159 --> 00:50:07.679
<v Speaker 2>Girl mainstream shoots because I'm not a fan. But I

1006
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:10.920
<v Speaker 2>will fuck like my friend with like a dude, Like

1007
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I'll do that, like that's how I I like doing that,

1008
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:14.719
<v Speaker 2>But I'm not gonna suck her by yourself. I don't know.

1009
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:17.639
<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you who also finds lesbian porn a

1010
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:22.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit boring? Secure guys? Yeah, yeah, I'm a little

1011
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:25.199
<v Speaker 1>no offense. I love all the beautiful ladies in the world.

1012
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:28.039
<v Speaker 2>But my friend, my well, I have plenty of boyfriends,

1013
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:30.719
<v Speaker 2>but my main boyfriend though. He he told me because

1014
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:32.760
<v Speaker 2>like he likes to watch my porn and he was like,

1015
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:34.639
<v Speaker 2>he was he loves Gang Bang. So I was like, oh, fuck,

1016
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.000
<v Speaker 2>you like watching gang He's like yeah, He's like, he's like,

1017
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:39.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm straight. He's like, I don't want to see you

1018
00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:40.599
<v Speaker 2>and a girl.

1019
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:41.159
<v Speaker 1>He's like.

1020
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm seeing he loves fucking Gang Bang.

1021
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:50.039
<v Speaker 1>If I was gay, I wouldn't, you know, I don't

1022
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:51.639
<v Speaker 1>know that analogy works. I was going to bring a

1023
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:53.760
<v Speaker 1>girl into it, but it doesn't make sense. All right,

1024
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:56.280
<v Speaker 1>books are gonna wrap this one up. My guest today,

1025
00:50:56.400 --> 00:50:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the lovely Haley Spades. You've been so phenomenal to talk to,

1026
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:03.480
<v Speaker 1>so I think people not going out to sign up

1027
00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:06.519
<v Speaker 1>for your content is a travesty because you produce some

1028
00:51:06.559 --> 00:51:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of the highest quality stuff and at as I'm going

1029
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:12.519
<v Speaker 1>through your many VIDs too low of prices. It feels

1030
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.760
<v Speaker 1>like what some girls sell things for on here, so

1031
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:19.079
<v Speaker 1>it's all affordable. Make sure you check out her only

1032
00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:22.639
<v Speaker 1>fans at Haley Spades and check the episode description below

1033
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.119
<v Speaker 1>for links to all of her social media. Even if

1034
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you're broke, but you're listening to this follow her on

1035
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.480
<v Speaker 1>social media. Bump those numbers up. That's all I can say.

1036
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:34.599
<v Speaker 1>If you have no money, Haley Spades, thank you so

1037
00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:35.760
<v Speaker 1>much for coming on with me tonight.
