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Speaker 1: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for checking out going deeper.

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I'm your host, Matt, and I've got a great show

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Cherrypimps dot com. You find links to all of our

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to recommend you go and sign up for her only

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can do. Go sign up for the thing. Ladies and gentlemen,

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join me and welcoming these spectacular Hailey Spades. Haley, how

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are you tonight? Hello?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Are you.

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Speaker 1: Bad? I'm not bad. We're both we're both a little

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banged up today on separate coasts, I would assume. So

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we're going to just struggle through this and hope that

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your beauty carries us through. Yeah. Yeah. Let me ask

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you your initial entrance into any kind of the adult

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entertainment industry camming stripping point, what was your I done.

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Speaker 2: It for me? It was stripping really, I think, yeah,

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I think I tried out camming actually like bury you

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like like freshly eighteen, but then I couldn't really like

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get my footing with it, so I started stripping and

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then full you know, full circle here we went back

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to content and camming and now I'm doing Born, so

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full circle with all that, with all of it.

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Speaker 1: How old were you the first time you went and

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decided you were going to be a stripper.

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Speaker 2: I was eighteen, okay, all right?

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Speaker 1: So I mean I think about and there's no offense

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and you are still very young. I think about how

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kind of dull I was at eighteen years old? Oh yeah,

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did you make? What was it? I it's hard to

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last fight because I've ten thousand questions rushing to my

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face all at once. Was it a higher end club

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or like a starter type club?

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Speaker 2: For it was I would say like higher end. I

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mean I was in New Orleans, so it's there's a

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degree of higher end in New Orleans, right, But it

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wasn't like a dive. It wasn't like a little like

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truck stop club, which I have worked at those and

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they're actually fun. But I kind of went ahead first

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right into like the Larry Flint's Hustler Clubs in New Orleans.

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And then I went over to the pet House Club,

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So two very like big name clubs.

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Speaker 1: What was something you didn't expect when you first entered

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into that. I've said this every interview I've done, because

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I've always begun with stripping for some reason. I think

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just a lot of performers start out in stripping, but

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I think strippers are the greatest salespeople outside of I

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don't know, you know, pharmaceutical salesp or some redictus. Whoever's

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pumping oxygonton. They're doing fine, But I think strippers are

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just the best. At My favorite thing to see is

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a guy sitting in theer and he's like, I'm just

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here with my friends. I'm not gonna I'm just gonna

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have drinks, not doing anything. And then on this third

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trip to the ATM, I'm just like, oh, girl, got him,

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got them, got them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing for me, for me, like, what's

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shocked me the most, I think was how many people

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actually just wanted to hang out and just talk.

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Speaker 1: You know. I hear that too. I hear girls say,

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I you know, the most I ever made was X

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amount of thousands of dollars and it was in a

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VIP room. I'm like, what must there? I was gonna say,

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it must have got fucking spicy in there. Tell me.

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She's like, no, he just wanted to talk and kind

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of like look at my feet for six hours. Yeah,

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have you had what what was like the weirdest request

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you ever got? If you had one? And again it's

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a higher end club, so it's probably not as fun

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as the truck stop club requests, But what was like

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the weirdest request you've ever gotten at the club?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't think it was really like weird

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to me. That's why I'm like, I can't really I

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don't really know, like because I don't really I don't

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really think any think it was super weird. I would

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come in and then they would all like be like no, no,

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don't don't look at me, look at him, and they'd

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just like pass you on and on, and then like

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you would get stuck with like this one guy who

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clearly did not want to be there, and like his

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like I'm like, I don't want to do that, don't

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like aggressive or like come on, like show him a

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good time. They hand me like two dollars. I would say, like,

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nothing was really weird. I just think it was weird

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when people would just kind of like push the girls

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like to the next one in their group because nobody

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wanted to spend money, but like they wanted all the

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attentional one. But I don't know, I just think it

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was very weird, you know, like it was like, oh no,

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I don't want to be here. Like it was like

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I was like, are you gay? Like do you not

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like women? And one time changes life and I'm not

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going to change his life.

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Speaker 1: I Uh, my wife and I were written together forever

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now right, and early on I quit my retail job

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and I took probably sick strip club rookies out with

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my wife to a fully nude Byob club in Philadelphia. Okay,

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I went down the line. At the end of the night,

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I everyone had dances except for me. All this go.

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They did a whipped cream show where you can pick

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two girls, you can pick which hole, and then the

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patrons can pay twenty dollars to lick it off. Which

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I always found a little on savory but fun. You know,

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all of them had licked it. Da da da da,

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this and that. I did the count at the end

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of the night. This person spent twenty dollars, this person

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spent thirty dollars, this person spent forty dollars, and I

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spent four hundred and sixty dollars at a shrimp club,

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having gotten no dances myself, just showing people a good time, right, Yeah, yeah,

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that's what a strip club is doing. Yeah. I hate

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when dudes are disrespectful or even like like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they suck so much from you, Like they're like, oh,

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you need change his life, you need to you know,

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make him read it getting married. You're like, I'm like,

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I'm not here to ruin a marriage.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I'm standing here gorgeous as I am and topless,

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possibly fully new. You don't have to keep passing me off.

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I'll just stand in the middle. You all stand there.

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Speaker 2: Until somebody decides that they want me at this point

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or like yeah, I just like I always thought that

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was weird to me. It's like how everybody's like scared

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almost like initiate, you know, like they're like, oh, word,

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a strip club. I'm not going to be the one

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to get like like, okay, you know those are like

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a restaurant, like, I'm not. I'm not here to get food.

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I'm just here.

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Speaker 1: Those are the same guys in your Twitter comments who

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are like, I'd folk you so much better, you know

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I would. The shyness of people like in person is

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shocking me. But you know you get a pretty girl game.

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Speaker 2: You talk all that game. I'm sure, buddy, sure.

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Speaker 1: So you tried camming first obviously didn't work out.

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Speaker 2: It's freshly eight and I had no idea what I

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was getting myself into. I was just lost.

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Speaker 1: So me let me ask you, and please only divulge

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what you're comfortable divulging here. But like no other plane,

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do you decide that you weren't going to do college

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or you did do college?

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Speaker 2: I finished college.

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Speaker 1: I got wonderful, wonderful Okay, So you did bachelers and marketing.

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Speaker 2: I was I was stripping through college.

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Speaker 1: Actually, right, okay, that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: So I was stripping through college and then I graduated

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in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Was there an intention to eventually use that marketing degree?

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Or would you would you like to have the money

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back that you spent on college.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I would definitely like to have that money back

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as I'm paying off i Suter loans. I really own

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nine thousand. It's not that bad something. But I have

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friends who have ninety thousand.

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Speaker 1: And I have friends who have two hundred and fifty thousand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I havely nine thousand or whatever.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think for me, like I just followed like the

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normal trajectory of like go to college, you know, do

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what everybody else doing. So I was doing that. And

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initially I went into college going into like science, I

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was I was like I was getting all of my

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general classes out of the way. But at that point,

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like so like I had committed to a certain degree

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subject whatever. But I started to doubt myself. And then

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I had all these friends in like the business school

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inside and they're like, oh, so easy ball. I'm like

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it's so versatile, and I was like, I don't know.

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I was like, I guess I'll just do something that

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like I feel like I could fall back on it

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if I needed, like something just simple, right, not something

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like stressful. Also, like I just didn't know what I

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wanted to do. So as I was in college. I

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didn't really know what my plan was. I just wanted

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to finish when I started, right, So I was like,

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let me just finish and then figure it out and

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then now I'm important.

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Speaker 1: Well you know what though, I mean from my perspective,

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I think you picked just about the best major for

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this industry for sure. But I would suggest any new

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girls coming into it looking if you are like committed

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like Haley was here finishing college, go go to school

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for marketing, and my advice take all your electives as

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like Adobe, Premiere Pro, Photoshop, shit like that.

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Speaker 2: I wish I would have done stuff like that, right right.

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Speaker 1: This what I want to talk about your content later

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because I'm a little shocked in a good way by something,

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So we'll talk about that in the second segment. But yeah,

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to me, it's just like your job is equal part

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sex and equal part marketing. It feels like pushing yourself

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out there because you can have the best, most incredible,

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sexiest scenes in the world and if they get six

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views somewhere, it doesn't mean shit. Right, So how do

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you make sure do you do collaborations with only other

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mainstream people or other content creators, like if you found

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the content creator who maybe isn't mainstream but has a

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breadth of work, you know, something they could really show.

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Would you be comfortable working with that person? I don't.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I only work with established professional usually I've already

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met on like a mainstream set, right, so I see

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how this person is like, and I see how how

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they act towards me, and I see their character, right

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instead of just being like, oh, this person's online, like

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they have this many follower like to me, I if

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I'm not comfortable, if I don't feel like I want

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to actually shoot with somebody, like, I'm not going to

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force it just because like, oh I need to keep

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pumping out content. So I really only stick to mainstream

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performers that I have already worked with professionally. And the

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only person I there's two people that I uh didn't

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follow that like little Guideline for myself. It was Johnny

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Sin's okay and Vince Carter. So those are the two

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performers that like I just was like, yeah, I'll shoot

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contact with you. Sure I never met them like on

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like a set, so but like those are like you know,

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like that's not like, uh, mister Joe in the middle

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of I don't know Sacramento that has ten followers. It's

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like I'm just trying to get my footing, Like no,

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like I don't know, I can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, say Joe and Sacramento had four hundred thousand

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followers and in only fans in the top one percent

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with girls who shoots with and you know another factor

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that would make you possibly say yes, is there yours?

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Speaker 2: Or just because I would, I wouldn't say yes wonderfully

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like I would I yeah, I would be like, you know,

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like I don't know you. And also like in this

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day and age, I feel like a lot of people

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buy their followers and a lot of it's not organic, right,

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So I don't like to just go off followers. And

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I also like to look at their content like is

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this even like something I want to have on the

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internet with this person, like if it's like I don't know,

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if it's too too amateur for me? Like and that's

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that goes as like a whole like not just like

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people I don't know, but like if I know somebody

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but I don't like their content style, I'm not gonna

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I'm not gonna shoot, I'm not gonna just not gonna

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do it right. I I have a brand, right, and

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I have an image that I want to put out there,

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and if I feel like it's going to not benefit me,

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I'd rather not. Like I don't need to just keep

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the wheels turning, right, We don't need to keep turning

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the butter just.

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Speaker 1: To do it right, right? Yeah? Yeah, don't make content

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just to make content, you know, make which again was

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the part that I was surprised about, which I'd like

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to talk to about later. Is your content is I

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think the highest quality I've ever seen. We'll we'll we'll

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delve into that a little more when we talk about

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your scenes and stuff like that. But let me ask

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you this again. Only say what you're willing to say.

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Did you grow u uh okay New Orleans? You said, yes, okay, uh,

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I don't. I've never been to New Orleans. I have

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no idea. Are there smaller portions or is it all

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just New Orleans?

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Speaker 2: I mean New Orleans is New Orleans, right, I mean

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I grew up in those suburbs, so like about twenty

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minutes north of New Orleans and manded it like on

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the Ore Shore. So like if people know the area,

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they're like, oh yeah, I know exactly where that is.

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So but like we all say like the New Orleans

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in like the valley. It could mean to some people

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Sam Bernardino or oh see, like they could say LA

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is like a general.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? So how many guys from your high school

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are signed up for your only fans?

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Speaker 2: I could imagine a lot because I actually I actually

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get people from college and from high school that messaged

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me and they're like, oh my god, there's somebody that

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messages me all the time on Twitter and they're like

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this person was like, oh my god, I should have

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I should have shot my shot with you when I

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sat behind you in this class. So I definitely get

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a lot of those people. I think most of them

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are too shy, but I mean there's some that are

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like I sat right behind you in this schools.

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Speaker 1: I do another show called Brand New Faces, where I

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reach out and find new performers who are you know,

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I can tell or committed because they're making content, but

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they don't have a lot of followers. They don't have

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a lot of so I try and use a little

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bit of my audience to bring some people to them,

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and I always tell them I think it's the funniest thing.

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they went to their Facebook and just posted, hey, I'm

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on only fans, now check this out, and then you

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know you have to be committed. You sure to be committed.

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I think you would just immediately get some I always

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find that so funny.

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Speaker 2: Were you you know the curiosity that people have naturally,

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you know, they're like, oh, I want to see.

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Speaker 1: Were you a cool kid? Were you a nerd? Were

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you fun? Were you athletic? What were you?

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think it was any of those.

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I was just kind of like there, like I don't know,

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like I didn't I didn't fall into like a certain

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category when I like in like school right growing up,

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I never really did. I didn't do sports. I wasn't

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like a nerd. I wasn't like the super popular person.

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Speaker 1: I was just like there, yeah, So did you have

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a good high school experience?

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Speaker 2: All right? I mean I didn't have my you know,

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I didn't reach my peak in high school, all right.

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But I had a really sweet high school sweetheart who

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was a little bit popular. So I was like with

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the popular crop, I wasn't popular. Just there. I mean

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I had a generally like I couldn't say it was

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a bad experience, but I definitely I don't know, it was.

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Speaker 1: Just high school. No, yeah, yeah, I've always heard horrors.

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I've heard horror stories about two things that I've never

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had a horror story on high school and the DMV.

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DMV has always been fine for me. Every time I horrible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna wa yeah yeah, yeah, well no, no,

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not a horror.

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Speaker 1: I just I just people always like, oh, I got

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stuck in this group as I floated them, Hey nerds,

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I'm gonna talk to you for a little bit cool guys,

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athlete whatever it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have like, yeah, I didn't have a

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certain click surely, so I was just like I'm here.

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Speaker 1: All right. We are going to take a quick break.

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My guest today, Hailey Spades. You can find her own

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OnlyFans at Hailey Spades. Links to all of our social

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media is going to be in the episode description. We'll

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be right back.

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Speaker 1: My guest today, Hailey Spage and find out on OnlyFans

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at Hailey Spade. Please go check out the content. We're

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gonna talk about the content coming up. But I have

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a game for you. Would you say, what is the

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I don't so many important stars I talk to love

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watching their own stuff. I can't, okay, okay, I cannot

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tell you how terrible it's gonna be when I have

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to listen back to this and I don't hear your

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voice when I hear me talking. It's just the most

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upsetting thing in the world, seeing or hearing anything I do.

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So I'm gonna subject you to that. Today. We have

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a game called I said, what.

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Speaker 2: Do you like it when you're any girls talk to you?

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Speaker 1: I said, what obsessed with corse Com? Oh no, so

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I said, what is the game? Where you the world

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famous porn star? I have to identify your own work.

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I have three audio clips for you. Okay, your job

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is to identify what scene it comes from. After I

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play the clip, I'll give you three options to pick from.

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You let me know which scene you think it's from.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm ready, Okay, Oh scare clip number one.

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Speaker 1: You know big I looks next to my little pretty

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face really seem to be enjoying it, there, Haley, Uh,

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clip number one? Is it from a blackson blondes dot com,

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b bang dot com or ce only team blowjob dot

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com Blacksman blondes incorrect bang dot com. Oh yeah, he's

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a larger like he's a larger gentleman. And it was

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right next to your face. It was a.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful trying to picture it. But I do that a lot,

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I scene because I work with a lot of big dicks.

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I was like I couldn't really I knew it wasn't

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the team one because like I did, like the teen stuck,

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you know, like we don't really like say stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: It's we're like, oh step brown, like high school. Just

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process of elimination. That one obviously not. It was good.

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That was good logic used there. Let me play for

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your clip number two.

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Speaker 2: Every guy wants to fill me up with this com

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I mean, come on, look at this.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you just love to fill me up with your

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com the The audience shouted yes. Number two? Was that

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Reality junkies, that's correct, Okay, that's correct.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't free use because what you can't you can't

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what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Basically, we'll come back to I'm a fan. It's a

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weird I'll talk about it. Oh the reaction I got

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on that one clip number.

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Speaker 2: Three, I bet you can't get hard and fuck me

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lin loser.

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Speaker 1: Well, you looked like you didn't even realize you said

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that at some point? Was that from a close personal

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Not close personal friends? I met him once, but they're sweethearts.

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I love them. Sorry, Haley, let me finish. This is

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my friend and close personal friend, Hailey Spades for the

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Speaker 1: No step siblings caught dot com? Which is ironic because

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you just said, you always say nice stuff and then

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this one you're calling them a limp dick loser.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, man, Haley, your content I put it up there.

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Speaker 1: The only one I would say is is close to comparable.

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And this is no offense to anyone else. It's just

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the first one coming to the top of my mind.

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Penny Barber produces some really high end come I mean,

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she's a lens girl. She knows what this does, what

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that does? I mean, do you have a fucking AI

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filter from the future? How is your shit so beautiful?

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Like you really?

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Speaker 2: Do you have a videographer? Okay, I have somebody that

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shoots most of my content, and it's something that I

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actually take pride in, right, I Like, I like for

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my content to look visually appealing and like I'm okay

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with like the amateur suft, but for me, like I

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feel like I can put more passion into something where

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I'm like, Okay, it's going to look like this. I

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want this to happen. I want this theme. I want like,

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I want like all of this to like look very

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very good, and so then I feel more motivated, right,

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like more in too, like what I'm shooting versus just

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like oh, I come over and iPhone.

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Speaker 1: It sure, sure, yeah, I have like a production right,

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and then these are fool I mean, I'm just like

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I have your mini VIDs on another screen over here,

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you know, not a bad view. It's insane even just

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this Alice toys herself in Arcade again now watching the

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content at the moment, I'd get too distracted. But it's

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like a movie, I mean real movie movie shit, Like,

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I mean, this is high quality. So that was your

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intention coming into this, I assume, right, does that go?

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How far back does that go in your career? Was

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there a green light moment when you were like, I

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just don't like how I'm being represented on this type

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of scene and from now on? Or was it before

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you even started?

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Speaker 2: It was before I got incorn. So when I started

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doing like OnlyFans, right cause I, like I said, like,

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I had an interest in the camming world, so I'd

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already seen like the quality, like the variations, right and quality.

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that I'm actually using right now. I had this camera

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purchase because I was trying to my boyfriend at the time,

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we were like trying to like make flog content I

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don't know, and he yeah, he was like a like

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an up and coming DJ. So like we were like

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trying to get really good quality media right for like

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both of us in that time. But when I started

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doing Only Fans, I was like, Okay, I started to

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get a little bit more into like the lenses, Like

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I started realizing, like what kind of lens I wanted.

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I'm not a pro, I I this this lens. I'm like,

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I don't even know what kind of lens I'm using

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right now, but it's a good one sure, But I.

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Speaker 1: Mean you look great. Yeah, your sound is good like you.

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That's why I asked, no offense if you were kind

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of a nerd when you were younger, because your tech,

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all of your tech is fucking top.

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Speaker 2: I was a gamer when I was younger. I wouldn't

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really like say I was a nerd.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I don't want to call you a nerd.

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Speaker 2: But I have like a piece. I mean, I'm okay

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with being a nerd, but I just I didn't really

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fit like the nerd the category. But I yeah, so

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I when I started Only Fans, I was like, if

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I'm gonna make content, I need to look good, right,

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like took very seriously from the start. You know, I

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was like, I'm not gonna put out something where I

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feel like it's not flattering, it doesn't look good, like

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00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,960
especially like seeing me in such like a vulnerable like light,

472
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,119
like I'm naked and I'm getting fucked. I don't want

473
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:43,960
it to look.

474
00:23:43,839 --> 00:23:48,319
Speaker 1: Bad, right, right, What was your first break when you

475
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,799
realized like, oh, this is this is gonna gonna work,

476
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,519
Like this is really gonna work. This is not gonna

477
00:23:55,519 --> 00:23:58,200
be Like when did you first get like ten thousand

478
00:23:58,279 --> 00:24:00,720
followers in a day and you were just like, oh shit,

479
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,720
I am blasting off here.

480
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,559
Speaker 2: Well, I I think I only had around like I

481
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:09,039
had less than twenty thousand when I joined porn when

482
00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:13,480
I was just doing content. But I think like I'm

483
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,559
trying to like I'm trying to like piece it together

484
00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:20,480
because I always got like a lot of like followers

485
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,200
when I shot for companies like Browsers, right, So I

486
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,799
think as soon as I saw like I think it

487
00:24:24,839 --> 00:24:27,759
was like a ten or twenty thousand jumping like a day,

488
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,359
I was like whoa, But it was like people like

489
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,680
me and so like I just kind of stuck with

490
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,480
it because I was always busy and I'm still to

491
00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:38,880
this day three and a half years in very busy sale.

492
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,039
Speaker 1: So yeah, is that what you just keep yourself busy though?

493
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,960
Like I mean, is that how you stay sane? Again,

494
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,839
I told you, I have like twenty interviews the rest

495
00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:47,839
of this week, plus a day job, plus my wife

496
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,559
is having surgery in two weeks, so we have doctor's appointments.

497
00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:53,880
But I feel like if I'm just sitting around, I

498
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,799
feel like I'm wasting. Like I could be editing something,

499
00:24:56,839 --> 00:24:58,519
I could be looking at something, I could be sending

500
00:24:58,559 --> 00:25:02,400
emails out to somebody trying to book them. It seems

501
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,519
like you're a very driven person, right Yeah.

502
00:25:05,559 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 2: But with that though, does come burnout. So for me,

503
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,079
I have to find like the balance, and that's something

504
00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:14,359
I'm still to this day, like figuring out I'd like

505
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,279
to say busy obviously, who doesn't Who likes I like

506
00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:19,960
having like something that I'm like working towards, like having

507
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,720
a goal, Like I just like accomplishing things right, And

508
00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:27,000
so for me, if I if I go too hard though,

509
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,960
I will like eventually just like completely be like I

510
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,480
don't even want to shoot for a month, which is

511
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,359
what happened in March. I did not shoot the entire

512
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,640
month of March because I just went so hard in February.

513
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,920
While I was in Europe, I was shooting almost every day.

514
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:40,759
I was doing a lot of deep, a lot of

515
00:25:40,759 --> 00:25:42,960
anal and so when I got back to the States,

516
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,759
I was like nobody even look at you know, like

517
00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:49,240
I didn't even want to create content like I I

518
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,599
was just like very like drain. I was just happy

519
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,839
to be home. And I was like I was very

520
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,160
like happy, and you know, I loved being busy. But man,

521
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,960
the burnout I had I was pretty bad. And like

522
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:02,160
even going into April it was started to get better,

523
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,799
like I started shooting again, but even then, I feel

524
00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:06,799
like it took may like this month when I was

525
00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:08,880
like ready to start going ham again, right.

526
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,759
Speaker 1: And that's just a feeling where you're just kind of like,

527
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,960
I don't know, but for me, when I get to

528
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,720
that level, I'm just kind of like I got to

529
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,079
do something, like something, whatever it is.

530
00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 2: I gave myself like two months to kind of like

531
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,039
fuck off, and I was okay, okay. I was like, yeah, Hayley,

532
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,200
you need to get your shit together a good.

533
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: So you said you was shooting over in Europe. I

534
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,759
see a lot of girls go to shoot over in Europe?

535
00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:32,160
Is that who's that with?

536
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 2: So there's a couple of agencies. I'm free agent here

537
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,599
in the States, I used to have an agent, but

538
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,119
I am free agent here. I'm fully self booking, so

539
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:42,000
I handle all my own bookings. But when I wanted

540
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:43,920
to go to Europe, I had to like reach out

541
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,359
to the few agencies that are over there and see

542
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,839
who wanted to represent me. All of them did. I

543
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,079
ended up settling basically on one real Babes and they've

544
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:56,720
been the best to me and they get me so

545
00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:00,680
much work. But I was able to self book something there,

546
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:03,200
but for the most part it was all through real

547
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,759
babes or Nicky's Models.

548
00:27:06,839 --> 00:27:12,079
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, I don't think women understand how much coming

549
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,000
into this industry work is also into it. At some

550
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,720
times that wasn't really a sentence. I'm also having burnout

551
00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:22,599
as well. I don't think some women realize how much

552
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,119
work actually goes into it. Some I've interviewed a lot

553
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,279
of like hot eighteen nineteen year old girls who are like, oh,

554
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,839
you know, I'll come in, I'll post a couple pictures

555
00:27:30,839 --> 00:27:33,400
of myself and then I'll just get fifty thousand followers

556
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,200
and top one percent and blah blah blah. And can

557
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,559
you please explain to everybody listening as I do every episode,

558
00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:42,880
how much work actually goes in before you start hiring

559
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,119
agents or I don't know if you do a social

560
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,160
media manager or anything like that, but how much work is

561
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,000
involved prior to all of those things.

562
00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:53,799
Speaker 2: Oh, there's so much work first, I would say, I mean,

563
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,759
getting an agent, I would say was probably the first

564
00:27:57,079 --> 00:27:59,400
thing I did when I joined the porn right because like,

565
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:01,480
how are you how are you even gonna get your

566
00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:05,559
name out there and experience, you know, like actually being

567
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,759
in front of the camera. But I think from there

568
00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:10,400
people don't realize like, Okay, like I have to be professional,

569
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:13,519
I have to build rapport, I have to build relationship

570
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,720
relationships within this industry. And then I also need to

571
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,039
like stay relevant, you know, and I gotta like, like

572
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,079
could like continue to produce content and also promote yourself

573
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,039
and because you don't want to get lost like in

574
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:30,079
the background, and then building those interpersonal relationships in the

575
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,400
industry is actually so so important. I can't tell you

576
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,319
how many times I get told wow, your breath of

577
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:37,440
fresh air, like like you show up on time, you

578
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,240
come here, you have a great attitude versus like girls

579
00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:42,480
or like I don't want to see like girls, Like

580
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:46,640
people who are in the industry as a whole, they

581
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,039
might like show up like I don't know, rying because

582
00:28:50,079 --> 00:28:52,400
like they like thirty minutes like crying, so like my

583
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,880
my partner was yelling at me and then they're like

584
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,640
they're like a whole mess like on and like they're

585
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,359
just like frantic and like for me, I'm like no,

586
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,400
I'm like and I think so I would I would

587
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,079
say that's actually one of the biggest things that I

588
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,720
find is something like I have something that matters in

589
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:10,440
the industry, and that's something that takes a lot of work.

590
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:12,880
Like like so going to these agents in Europe, I

591
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,000
had like they gonna know who I was, but like

592
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:16,960
they were able to like do some research on me

593
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:19,960
and they were like okay, yeah, like we'll get you booking.

594
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,880
So they were taking a gamble on me. And and

595
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:29,519
if you burn bridges, you're it's very hard to build

596
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:30,240
that bridge back.

597
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,839
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, yeah, maybe maybe.

598
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,599
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I would say I would say that's

599
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:38,079
like the hardest thing like people don't realize like it.

600
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,039
You actually need to be like a kind, professional, respectful

601
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:45,200
person to even get anywhere in the industry.

602
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:49,039
Speaker 1: And that's what people don't realize so much. I think

603
00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:52,200
I agree with the one thousand percent I did. I

604
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,559
started the show by cold emailing like five hundred different performers.

605
00:29:57,559 --> 00:30:00,440
One pr agent saw we were doing stuff than the

606
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,839
next PR agent. Once they're people, and then it just grows,

607
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,559
you know, But it's so funny. I always I just

608
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:10,000
love hearing people be like porns so easy. Look how

609
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:12,359
lazy this girl is. So what you're telling me is

610
00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:16,640
you have to perform a talent on camera. You then

611
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,680
have to do all of your own marketing and stuff

612
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,119
like that. If you don't again, if you don't have

613
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,640
a manager, uh, you yourself are a free agent self booking.

614
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,680
So you have to make sure all that shit's lined up.

615
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,519
You have to ensure all the editing and everything like

616
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:33,319
that production wise is done. But then also how about

617
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:36,640
the admin work, making sure everything's signed, making sure everything's

618
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,960
uploaded properly. Easy job, Hale, a real easy job. I

619
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,359
can't believe you're so lazy.

620
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then making sure everybody like you know you're

621
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,000
on like good terms of people. I mean, to some

622
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,559
people that's important, but to me, I think that's I

623
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:52,720
think it's so important. Like when I see people just

624
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,799
basically like go off on the deep end, like on

625
00:30:55,839 --> 00:30:58,240
social media or like getting into fights or just like

626
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:02,279
you know, like bashing each other, I'm like, you, what

627
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:06,240
are you doing? I'm like, why are you doing that?

628
00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:08,880
Because to be like, that's it's one of the main

629
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,440
reasons too, Like I don't really like socializing so much

630
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,720
within the industry because I find that not everybody's on

631
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:18,279
that same professional like level that I hate to say,

632
00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:20,599
like my professional level. They're nowhere near.

633
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:20,759
Speaker 1: No.

634
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: But it's true though, like because for me, it's like

635
00:31:24,279 --> 00:31:28,400
I just see so much happening and I can't really

636
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,079
like relate. Like to me, like drama's not important. What's

637
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:36,880
important is building good work relationships. And you know that's

638
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,759
what's gonna get you the furthest I think, like it's networking.

639
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,720
So if you if you if you can't network, if

640
00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:46,880
you can't talk your way you're basically and make people

641
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,799
like you enough to climb, you're gonna have a really

642
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:49,599
hard time climbing.

643
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, all right, we're gonna take one more break

644
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,119
care we'll come back with my guess, Hailey Spades. Make

645
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,519
sure you check the episode description for links to all

646
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of her social media. Most importantly, though, I want you

647
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:03,359
to check out our only fans OnlyFans at Haley Spades.

648
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We'll be right back one more game and we'll wrap

649
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this up.

650
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Speaker 1: Com, and we're back my guest today Haley Spades and

664
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,400
on Only Fans at Haley spades. Are you good with letters, Haley,

665
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,240
what do you mean? Yeah, it's a ridiculous question. Yes,

666
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,160
like letters, but like mail? No, no, no, like just

667
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:23,279
ABC letters. Yeah, okay, all right, all right, then let's

668
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:31,440
play it lude letters. Have you ever played S categories before?

669
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:32,799
I think so?

670
00:33:33,079 --> 00:33:33,279
Speaker 2: Yes?

671
00:33:33,799 --> 00:33:37,359
Speaker 1: All right, So I'm going to give you a question.

672
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:39,759
You give me the answer. That's generally how games work.

673
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:42,640
But it's a short question. It'll be something like a

674
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:47,720
name a car company. Okay, go ahead, name a car, Alexis,

675
00:33:48,079 --> 00:33:51,480
name a type of phone iPhone. There you go, boom

676
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:54,559
two for two right there. The problem is your answer

677
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:58,640
can only begin with one letter. Okay, all ten questions.

678
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,319
Your letter was randomly selected before the show. It's s

679
00:34:01,599 --> 00:34:06,039
as in spades. Okay, okay, you'll have, because I'm not

680
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,639
a hack doing things for attention, sixty nine seconds on

681
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:13,039
the clock to answer ten questions correctly.

682
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,199
Speaker 2: Okay.

683
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: Are you ready?

684
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,079
Speaker 2: Yes?

685
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: Okay? Time. It will start at the end of the

686
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,280
first question. Everything you say from this point on can

687
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,840
only begin with S. Nah real bad, yeah, yeah, yeah. Three?

688
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:37,599
Two Name a sex position or act standing, name something

689
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:42,920
to drink, sprite, name a body part to come on,

690
00:34:46,039 --> 00:34:48,960
shin a female, name.

691
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:51,639
Speaker 2: Thearrah.

692
00:34:52,159 --> 00:35:03,119
Speaker 1: Name a porn website. Uh shit, Oh no, I don't

693
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:05,199
know that. Ship dot com qualifies. You can pass. We'll

694
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:06,719
come back to it. We'll come back to it. Number six.

695
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:07,719
Name a fashion brand?

696
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: Uh uh Sephorah, No, no, no, no, let's make up.

697
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,559
Speaker 1: Next one. Something you like about a male performer a

698
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:32,320
bright s sucks ten seconds left? Name of food brand?

699
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,400
Five or three?

700
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 4: Two?

701
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,119
Speaker 3: Tough?

702
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: I just I'll count it. I'll count it still versus good,

703
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,519
tough day to be hungover. So let's see. Uh you

704
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:52,559
said shin for name of body part to come on,

705
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:57,039
I had a smile, scalp or skin. Uh. Name a

706
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:01,840
porn website smashed dot x x x. I believe you

707
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,480
were on that.

708
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:04,519
Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think I was on that. It

709
00:36:04,599 --> 00:36:12,719
was like one of the new teams on New Biles. Uh.

710
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,079
Speaker 1: Name a fashion brand Steve Madden speary.

711
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:15,599
Speaker 6: Uh.

712
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,199
Speaker 1: Two words, yeah, it begins with the ass.

713
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: He used that it can't be two words? Is it

714
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,239
had to be one word?

715
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: Well? I never I never said the word too. I

716
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,559
did not go back and listen to one word. I said,

717
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:34,440
it's a short answer. Something you like about a male

718
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,320
performer his smile. Maybe I don't know. It begins with

719
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,039
an as name a food brand. You said, stove for spam,

720
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:46,639
skippy smuckersok.

721
00:36:44,199 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 2: A while I was like, it was like, I don't cook.

722
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: So for a tie breaker. According to i a f

723
00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:57,719
d dot com, which is the Internet Adult Film database

724
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,679
as of this record, how many male performers have you

725
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,159
worked with?

726
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,119
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he asked me how many restaurants I've

727
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:07,559
eaten that it.

728
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: We're just gonna do closest to it now. I'm gonna say, uh,

729
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,920
seventy ninety four.

730
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,519
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's a lot. I was gonna say one hundred.

731
00:37:23,559 --> 00:37:24,679
I was like, no, there's no way.

732
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:31,639
Speaker 1: Let the nuns know, all right, so let's make them happy.

733
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:34,159
Let's talk about the content. You just shot a scene

734
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:35,840
that I assume you had to sit on a bag

735
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,360
of frozen peas for at the end of it. I

736
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,679
saw it on your Twitter today.

737
00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what actually pretty good?

738
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,199
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh I you know, I don't think it's going

739
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,880
to be a bad scene at all with the talent.

740
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,079
Speaker 2: No, Like I was good though we didn't I didn't

741
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:53,320
have any injuries. I actually the day after that, I

742
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,840
flew to Miami for ex visit everybody was like, are

743
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,400
you destroyed? Actually, no, I'm not.

744
00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: Do you what is the biology of that? You appear

745
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,599
to be tiny, tiny, tiny? I don't know how kay

746
00:38:04,679 --> 00:38:09,239
skow tall you are. I'm four foot eight. That's Are

747
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,599
you legal? Can you get like a parking permit for that?

748
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: I could if I wanted. I don't want to go

749
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,199
to like to the doctor and fill out a bunch

750
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:15,719
of paperwork.

751
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:19,639
Speaker 1: It's just it's okay, I'll park a little further away,

752
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:20,159
that's right.

753
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so serious.

754
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: And do you know how insulting it would be if

755
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,320
the gorgeous Hailey Spades got out of a fucking handicapped

756
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,440
spot while some lady in a wheelchair was looking for

757
00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:30,519
a spot. That would be terrible.

758
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: I would feel bad, Yeah, I would feel bad, but.

759
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,559
Speaker 1: I think.

760
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,679
Speaker 2: So for me anal, it's just I feel like I

761
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,480
can take bigger dig easier. I think my body like

762
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:43,440
my anatomy, right, And also it feels better.

763
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: I've heard that from so many It's like something happened

764
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,360
in two thousand and one or twenty twenty one, where

765
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,960
like every girl I've been interviewing since then, I went

766
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,320
to Catholic school for twelve years. Okay, Anna was like,

767
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,920
away you kind of get out of you know, pissing off.

768
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:58,159
Speaker 2: God.

769
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:01,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, every girl I've talked too recently, He's just like,

770
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:03,360
ay know, so much easier. And I'm just like I

771
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,480
understand the physics of it. You only go so deep

772
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:07,119
here and you go, you know, all the way up

773
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:10,360
to your mouth over here. But at some point, don't

774
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,559
you feel like your organs are being rearranged?

775
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: No, because the dick can't. Well, I feel like my

776
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:20,440
organs are being more rearranged when it's in my pussy,

777
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:23,960
like I for me, I actually like yeah, like like

778
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,280
I get more sore in my pussy than actually in

779
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,239
my ass, and then I just feel like I enter

780
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,119
a different mindset when it's in my ass, and I

781
00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:35,920
just I feel like it just it does feel completely

782
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,480
different and it feels better for me. It really does.

783
00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:40,960
And that was a surprise. Actually when I started doing anal,

784
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,480
I was like WHOA. I was like, oh A, new

785
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:49,480
worlds And like when I shoot DP is like I

786
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,320
I love DP. I prefer dep over anal by itself,

787
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,960
but I do feel like the contrast and like how

788
00:39:56,039 --> 00:39:57,960
it feels when a dick is in my pussy and

789
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:00,440
my assy, like when it's like that close together, right,

790
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,320
like back and forth like the same time, I'm like,

791
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,519
you usually look like it hurts the moviment in my

792
00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:07,480
pussy and it's a big dick. It takes me a

793
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:09,920
little bit longer, I guess to adjust like it happens,

794
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,079
but like at first, like it's not comfortable, but I

795
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:14,519
feel like in my ass it's also probably because I've

796
00:40:14,519 --> 00:40:16,760
just done a lot of anal training, right, but also

797
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,920
like I'm more comfortable with anal, so I feel like

798
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,719
I'm just able to relax and I can just handle

799
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,079
bigger dick in my gass.

800
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: What entails anal training? Is it just different plug sizes?

801
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:31,320
Like are you the same thing as like gauging your ears?

802
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,559
Are you working your way up? Wow? Yeah?

803
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: And then uh so yeah. I would use like dilaty plugs.

804
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,559
And then I started practicing like like anal with like

805
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:44,480
uh boyfriend Dix basically like like the like like with performers.

806
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:47,599
I would be like dicks, some were not intimidating, They're

807
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:50,440
not dread just like a normal dick. I was like,

808
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,920
do you want to put it in my ass? And

809
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,119
just like you please want to fuck my ass? And

810
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,880
like no, no, No.

811
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: That I would be funny, be like, no, my uddy, you'll

812
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,800
do a passer over there, just like the clubs early on.

813
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,000
He'll do it, he'll do it. No, get him, he's

814
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,400
the birthday boy. Let him fuck. He wants to do it.

815
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's how I like started doing it. You know,

816
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,960
I just kind of worked my way up and I

817
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,880
took my time, and I was not in a rush

818
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,079
to hit any major like oh, like taking dread for

819
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:21,880
your first anal.

820
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: I was not.

821
00:41:23,639 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: It was not a goal of mine. I just wanted

822
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,000
to actually enjoy my anal journey.

823
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: Do you have milestones you want to hit? Though? Because

824
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,760
I love I love the artist aspect where to me,

825
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,000
I agree the same thing. I am not thinking about

826
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,320
my next however many interviews. My concentration is right now,

827
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,199
talk to Haley Spades, get the best possible content I

828
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:49,000
can out of this. So, yeah, do you have milestones

829
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:50,920
you want to hit though? Like I don't. I don't

830
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,639
I want to talk to you. I only want to

831
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:55,639
talk to you right now. I don't think about getting

832
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:58,280
this person on. Getting this person on eventually, it's awesome

833
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,679
when it comes down the line. But if you keep

834
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:02,519
making quality content people will stay around. Do you have

835
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:03,920
milestones you try and reach for?

836
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 2: Man, I don't really think I have like a specific milestone,

837
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,119
because I, for one, I just want to keep pushing myself,

838
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,480
like I want to see how far. Like That's why

839
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:18,199
I went to Europe, right, I just want to see it.

840
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:19,760
And like I don't mean like, oh my God, like

841
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,159
piss all over there. I don't mean like super hardbore.

842
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:26,599
I just mean like I want to see like how

843
00:42:26,639 --> 00:42:31,119
far I can actually go. And because I'm always surprising myself,

844
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:33,800
so I think I'm always trying to keep myself surprised.

845
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,679
Like I'm like in Europe, I did my first double badge.

846
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,960
Didn't plan on doing that, but I did it, and

847
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,639
I was like, I did my first double badge, right,

848
00:42:42,679 --> 00:42:45,960
And it's I think for me, is like a milestone

849
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,239
and just be like I need to keep one upping myself.

850
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:52,039
Speaker 1: What's the okay? So if it's not a milestone, what's

851
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:55,119
the next type of scene that maybe you haven't shot yet,

852
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:58,800
or that you're interested in shooting that you really want

853
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,199
to like, talk my agent as soon as something.

854
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 6: Okay, I love you. I have a real I Ever

855
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,920
since I was little, I was like I really love

856
00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:11,480
a facial It always just like makes me excited to

857
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,599
see that. I don't know if it's the contrast, it's

858
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:15,239
not the humiliation that's my thing.

859
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: So bukaki is just like it's it at once. It's great.

860
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:23,519
I actually interviewed Jim Powers, the director from the late

861
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:28,039
nineties early two thousands who brought Bukkaki to the United States,

862
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,599
as I believe it was a Japanese practice prior to that.

863
00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:35,159
You're a gamer girl. What kind of guys do you

864
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,960
get hitting you up? Because a lot of your brand

865
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:43,239
is is your brand to me is like cute, tiny

866
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,840
can apparently take monstrous things inside your body, but also

867
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:51,880
like cool, like you have gamer You said you know

868
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,199
gamer girl, right right, So do you have gamer guys?

869
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,559
Like do you do customs? I should ask? Or do

870
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,159
I do?

871
00:43:59,199 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: I do?

872
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

873
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: I mean for the most part, I think I do

874
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:07,480
appeal to like the whole stepsister realm I get. I

875
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,559
think that's the biggest type of request. I guess they

876
00:44:10,599 --> 00:44:16,400
do like step family things, So I guess I would.

877
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,199
It sounds like I probably have a younger like audience.

878
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,199
Speaker 1: Like for sure twenties maybe.

879
00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:26,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wouldn't really say like, oh, like they're nerdy,

880
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:29,079
their gamer. It's mainly everybody's like I want you to

881
00:44:29,079 --> 00:44:30,360
pretend to be my stepsister.

882
00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:34,079
Speaker 1: Do you okay not to fuck up your business at all?

883
00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:36,519
Do you like the step sister? Do you like this

884
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:38,800
step thing? Okay, very vocal about it.

885
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: How I do not like it? Actually, that's actually why

886
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,360
I started doing anal too. I got so sick and

887
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,440
tired of stepsister, stepsister, stepdaughter, step I don't know, step cousin.

888
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,519
I was a step cousin, went you know, I got

889
00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:52,480
so sick.

890
00:44:52,519 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: Step cousin three times removed, Like how far away are

891
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,280
we getting from the family line here? When does it

892
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,760
become not taboo anymore? Got sorry? I apologize you were

893
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,559
getting so sick of it.

894
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:04,599
Speaker 2: I was getting so sick of it, and like I

895
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:06,079
get it, it's a big market, but I think it's

896
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:09,400
so overdone. And I don't even mean like oh like

897
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:10,840
it's the same thing over and over. I just mean

898
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,760
like I am wasting my time if I'm rinse and

899
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,280
repeating the same fucking thing. Otherwise, like you're not seeing

900
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,480
my full potential if I'm just doing this fucking same

901
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:22,000
thing over and over and over. So for me. I

902
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:24,920
feel like the step family thing is very isolating. It

903
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,719
puts you in like it's this tight little box. It's

904
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,320
very hard to get out of that, and it can

905
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,239
just get so fucking old, you know, and it's like

906
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,800
it's like, I know there's a market for it, but

907
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,000
like I think it just becomes like a certain point

908
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,480
where like like when I'm showing up to a set

909
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:41,400
and I'm handed a script and I see step I'm like,

910
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,440
oh my god, Like I really I if I roll

911
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,760
my eyes and I'm like oh, Like to me, I'm like,

912
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,280
that's not I would rather not have, Like I'd rather

913
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,239
be like fuck yeah, I'm excited. No, the step shit

914
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,719
is just so fucking old, and I'm sick of it.

915
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:55,039
Speaker 1: I am.

916
00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 2: I've been very vocal about it.

917
00:45:56,639 --> 00:45:59,639
Speaker 1: Do you like the acting portion though, of porn shooting

918
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:01,800
man Born or would you rather just get to it?

919
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I do like the acting part. I'm just so

920
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,840
sick of the step family thing.

921
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,679
Speaker 1: You know what, do you have any idea what that

922
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:12,280
comes from for people? Because again I don't judge anyway.

923
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,320
As long as everyone in the room is eighteen plus

924
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,840
and there's no animals, I'm like, yeah, great, we're all good,

925
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,760
do whatever you like. I just don't. Why can't you

926
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,320
just have like, you know, if it's a step mother

927
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,840
hot milf uh and if it's a girl like you, Yeah,

928
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,599
why is it not like you know, newbile whatevers or

929
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:33,440
whatever tag you want to put at the beginning, I

930
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,760
don't understand. I just don't. And then we've been so

931
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,320
saturated with it. It's like I don't believe that's my

932
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,159
step mom anymore. I don't think that is okay. I

933
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,760
just I'm not believing it. I'm just seeing hot lady,

934
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,159
hot guy.

935
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I don't know, for me, it just

936
00:46:47,679 --> 00:46:52,199
it just gets so right and like the acting part's fun,

937
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,199
but I think, like I said, I'm not showing my

938
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,880
full potential. And that's like, uh. That's also why like

939
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,280
I started to get interested in anal because I was

940
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,960
I realized. I was, like, you know, if I do anal,

941
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:06,280
I feel like it's gonna put me in like another category,

942
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not like mill teen, but like a hardcore like because

943
00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:12,559
like typically, like I mean not, I'm not saying like

944
00:47:12,599 --> 00:47:15,559
it doesn't exist, but I find that a lot of

945
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:18,360
step family porn doesn't.

946
00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:20,039
Speaker 1: Usually involve anal really it's like.

947
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,039
Speaker 2: It's like it's like too like too much going on.

948
00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:23,800
You're like, you're like, all right, I'm already sucking my sister.

949
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,719
I'm bucking my sister in her ass. But you see,

950
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,199
I feel like you had like too much and it's

951
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,880
and it's not realistic for most people. So I don't

952
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,480
I don't see it too too often. And all my

953
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,199
anal scenes have not been.

954
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: Sister.

955
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: It's all been like I have been a sugar baby.

956
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,199
I have been an influencer.

957
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: I have been.

958
00:47:46,159 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: M I think like a tutor, like I've been other things, right,

959
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,360
not somebody's stepsister, And that's refreshing.

960
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: That's refreshing, Haley. As we come to the end on this,

961
00:47:56,039 --> 00:47:58,880
what are some things we have coming up? So you

962
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,440
wanted to you said you said at one point you

963
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,800
would love to shoot a b a cocky. I would

964
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,880
love to pay to watch that. Anything down the pike

965
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,280
where you're like, this is a big either a big

966
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,360
scene coming up for you, not so much mainstream. I

967
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,320
want to know, like, do you have anything exciting coming

968
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,719
up that you find more exciting than anything else. You're like, oh,

969
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,039
this day, this day, this day, I have that, but Friday,

970
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:22,960
fuck I got this thing, and don't say this interview

971
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:24,920
because I'll be real upset with you if you lie

972
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:25,199
to me.

973
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 2: No, So I'm going back to Europe in July and

974
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:36,119
I am shooting three days with Dorsell and I'm very

975
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,559
excited for that. It's like, uh, you know, that's like

976
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:43,000
the just like the Vixen brain, like just it's beautiful work, right,

977
00:48:43,039 --> 00:48:47,480
and I am very grateful that they want to shoot me.

978
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,440
So I don't know what it is yet, but it's

979
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,920
three days in a row, so it sounds like it's

980
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,599
a big production and Dorsell stuff is just so beautiful.

981
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:55,840
So I'm excited.

982
00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:59,559
Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited for you. Last question and then we're

983
00:48:59,599 --> 00:49:01,400
going to un have this one up. What is a

984
00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:04,599
type of scene that is it's hard to explain this,

985
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:07,599
but quote unquote vanilla within the industry, either a type

986
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:11,440
of scene or a whatever that you're just not interested in.

987
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:13,880
And then aside from the step stuff that we just

988
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,440
literally spent five minutes discussing, but what's something that you're

989
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:20,000
just like, I can't see myself doing a type of

990
00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:22,639
scene like that? Is there anything or will you try anything?

991
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:23,519
Speaker 2: Girl as a whole?

992
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:28,119
Speaker 1: Now, okay, so let me are you not? Are you girls?

993
00:49:28,519 --> 00:49:31,679
Speaker 2: I consider myself. I don't really like when I say,

994
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,320
like I'm bisexual, Like I definitely lean more towards men.

995
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:38,360
But like last night I had a three song with uh,

996
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,800
one of my good friends and her boyfriend. Right, So

997
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,480
like for me, like I love to play with girls,

998
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,239
but like I can't just just meet and the girl.

999
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,840
I get bored and I think it's too vanilla, and

1000
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,079
I think it's just I'm not gay clearly, you know.

1001
00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:54,159
For me, I'm like, the people are like, ooh, like,

1002
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,119
let's be it. I'm like maybe I'm like whatever. I

1003
00:49:58,159 --> 00:49:59,599
think it's really boring. And it's also why I don't

1004
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:03,119
shoot girl Girl, and I typically don't jump back girl

1005
00:50:03,159 --> 00:50:07,679
Girl mainstream shoots because I'm not a fan. But I

1006
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,920
will fuck like my friend with like a dude, Like

1007
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,960
I'll do that, like that's how I I like doing that,

1008
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:14,719
But I'm not gonna suck her by yourself. I don't know.

1009
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,639
Speaker 1: Can I tell you who also finds lesbian porn a

1010
00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:22,280
little bit boring? Secure guys? Yeah, yeah, I'm a little

1011
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,199
no offense. I love all the beautiful ladies in the world.

1012
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,039
Speaker 2: But my friend, my well, I have plenty of boyfriends,

1013
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:30,719
but my main boyfriend though. He he told me because

1014
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,760
like he likes to watch my porn and he was like,

1015
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,639
he was he loves Gang Bang. So I was like, oh, fuck,

1016
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,000
you like watching gang He's like yeah, He's like, he's like,

1017
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:39,760
I'm straight. He's like, I don't want to see you

1018
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:40,599
and a girl.

1019
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:41,159
Speaker 1: He's like.

1020
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm seeing he loves fucking Gang Bang.

1021
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,039
Speaker 1: If I was gay, I wouldn't, you know, I don't

1022
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:51,639
know that analogy works. I was going to bring a

1023
00:50:51,639 --> 00:50:53,760
girl into it, but it doesn't make sense. All right,

1024
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:56,280
books are gonna wrap this one up. My guest today,

1025
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,840
the lovely Haley Spades. You've been so phenomenal to talk to,

1026
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so I think people not going out to sign up

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for your content is a travesty because you produce some

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of the highest quality stuff and at as I'm going

1029
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through your many VIDs too low of prices. It feels

1030
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like what some girls sell things for on here, so

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it's all affordable. Make sure you check out her only

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fans at Haley Spades and check the episode description below

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for links to all of her social media. Even if

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you're broke, but you're listening to this follow her on

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social media. Bump those numbers up. That's all I can say.

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If you have no money, Haley Spades, thank you so

1037
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much for coming on with me tonight.