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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Kaplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,

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<v Speaker 1>and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>the American way to have President Zelenski here campaigning for Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not the American way and using our tax

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to do it as well, and listen on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And I take a lot of heat for it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been very supportive of Ukraine, the great people of Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>Putin is Satan himself. He's raping and pillaging that nation.

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<v Speaker 1>He must not be allowed to succeed. But no US

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<v Speaker 1>boots on the ground, at US financial commitment, but with

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<v Speaker 1>some limitations, and there has to be a strategy to win.

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<v Speaker 1>But my goodness, Zelensky is really straining that he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to come into this country and campaign for Harris against

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. And what an incredibly stupid thing to do

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<v Speaker 1>on his part. Right, He's done some things really well

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe some things not so well, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly stupid because he is gambling this all on Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gambling Ukraine, Ukraine's future on Kamala Harris. Wow eight

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<v Speaker 1>five five for zero five A two five five the number.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see Putin defeated. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see that literal demon. I want to see that literal

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<v Speaker 1>demon Putin fail. But Selensky is not helping his cause

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<v Speaker 1>by coming here to campaign for Harris. Glad you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots going on this afternoon. Let's go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>phone line switch. You are n Fago, Linda and Nederland,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the dan Kaplis. She'll welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Dan. I have a couple of questions. Legally, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you could say it's legal if the mother

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<v Speaker 2>is in danger. I'll dine, I understand that, But right,

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<v Speaker 2>incest cant aren't there things they can do right away?

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<v Speaker 2>If someone is raped?

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<v Speaker 1>There are things they can try to do. And Linda,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. I understand that the left always takes out

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<v Speaker 1>the most difficult scenario right, And the way I always

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<v Speaker 1>respond to people on the left is Okay, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>we agree that that a woman's allowed to have an abortion,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if she's raped. Would you agree that all

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<v Speaker 1>other abortions at that point should not be permitted, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's always interesting to see their response there. But

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<v Speaker 1>listen what you come back to, and it's what makes

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<v Speaker 1>it so tough, right, Linda, is that the undeniable medical

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<v Speaker 1>reality is that that is a human life that's being killed,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how that life was conceived.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm not sure I agree with that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>also don't I know there are many preventative options for

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<v Speaker 2>a woman getting pregnant. Why aren't people using them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to say that one of our friends

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<v Speaker 2>adopted four beautiful children because the first child was born

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<v Speaker 2>basically a vegetable. And I don't understand why women couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>put their children up for adoption rather than chill them.

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<v Speaker 1>Linda, very very very much appreciate the call, Linda and

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<v Speaker 1>your heartfelt sentiments. This particular show today is devoted to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of these political developments out there, rather than the

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<v Speaker 1>depth discussion of abortion, which we've had many times before

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<v Speaker 1>and well again, in fact, we're going to do many

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<v Speaker 1>many shows. This absolutely cruel and insane Colorado constitutional amendment.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's Bellot Initiative seventy nine, which seeks to make

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Colorado Constitution the legal quote right to

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<v Speaker 1>kill a child up to the moment of birth. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, say goodbye to parental notification for abortion

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<v Speaker 1>for minors, say hello to taxpayer funding of abortion. It

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<v Speaker 1>is way beyond extreme and it's on the ballot. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have many, many shows on that. Eight f

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<v Speaker 1>five for zero five eight two five to five the number.

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<v Speaker 1>To bring you up to speed, we have we have

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<v Speaker 1>some instant classics from Kamala today, and we have a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of panic going on on the left right now,

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<v Speaker 1>right because they can see that she's tracking to defeat.

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<v Speaker 1>So now they're starting to lurch around and do some

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely wild things, desperate things. Kamala coming out today and

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<v Speaker 1>saying that she wants to do away with the filibuster

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<v Speaker 1>in the US Senate for abortion. Now, once you do

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<v Speaker 1>away with the filibuster, it's gone for everything. Right, But

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<v Speaker 1>what that would mean is that if let's say Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>that they could codify abortion a pose, impose abortion on

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<v Speaker 1>demand for all fifty states up to the moment of birth.

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<v Speaker 1>The individual states don't get to decide. They could do

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<v Speaker 1>currently with filibuster, it takes sixty to pass anything major.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine that? Can you imagine what that would

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<v Speaker 1>do to America? How that would destabilize America from election

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<v Speaker 1>to election? Okay, this cycle?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>The Dems have it, and all of a sudden, now

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<v Speaker 1>and abortion is legal up to the moment of birth

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<v Speaker 1>forced in all fifty states. Two years from now, that

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<v Speaker 1>reverses the exact opposite happens, because now the Republicans have it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it would really plunge this nation into deep chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>And if she really believed this is good policy, she

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<v Speaker 1>would have said it a long time ago. Right, But

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<v Speaker 1>they're panicking now, they're panicking as they head toward defeat,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're seeing this crazy stuff happen. Ryan, I think

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<v Speaker 1>another reason they're panicking is, and I've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it now for several days. You've got this debate coming

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<v Speaker 1>up between and it's just a few days away, right

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<v Speaker 1>between Vance and Walls, and you can see Wall's favorability sinking.

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<v Speaker 1>But even before that, anybody who's paying attention can see

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<v Speaker 1>that Walls is an extreme radical with some other issues. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>he's lied about important things in the past. But jad

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<v Speaker 1>Vance is very well informed, he's brilliant, he's a tremendous debater,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a seasoned debater, and he is going to dismember

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<v Speaker 1>Walls in this debate. And he's going to do the

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<v Speaker 1>thing some of the things President Trump didn't do in

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<v Speaker 1>his debate in terms of pinning Walls down on Harris

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<v Speaker 1>and her policies and oh, but she has favored this,

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<v Speaker 1>and she has favored that, and Walls will be on

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive. Try to explain, no, no, she's changed, But

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<v Speaker 1>well when did she change? Why did she change? How

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<v Speaker 1>can we believe she's changed? I mean, Vance will be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do all of that and Walls, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to receive the same level of protection that she received,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is really going to struggle. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's when reason Harris is out there begging for another

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<v Speaker 1>debate right now. They know they know that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the last word in terms of a debate for him,

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<v Speaker 1>and people are going to hear is Vance, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just trouncing Walls, and that's not a good look for

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<v Speaker 1>the Harris campaign.

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<v Speaker 4>Last word and last inflection point really of this campaign,

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<v Speaker 4>other than rallying your base and try to turn that

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<v Speaker 4>out for jd vance the word I would use and

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<v Speaker 4>what you're describing there, Dan that Tim Walls is absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>not equipped to do because he doesn't even know Kamala

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<v Speaker 4>Harris that well. Surgical, well he will be surgical jd

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<v Speaker 4>vance and just breaking down all these conflicting positions that

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<v Speaker 4>Kamala is trying to straddle the line on.

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<v Speaker 1>And we all know what Walls is going to say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in a middle class family, right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the answer to everything. But watch him

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<v Speaker 1>try to evade, which he will do, and it will

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<v Speaker 1>just infuriate the American people. It's why I said after

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<v Speaker 1>that last debate, hair is lost because of wyn means

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<v Speaker 1>doing what you have to do. When the presidency she

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<v Speaker 1>lost because she did not explain to the American people

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<v Speaker 1>how she'll be different than Biden or why she's changed

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<v Speaker 1>her positions. And now she's depending on Waltz to do

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<v Speaker 1>it for good luck with that. And how about this?

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<v Speaker 1>You tell me this, what percentage of the women in

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<v Speaker 1>America who are planning to vote for Kamala Harris right

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<v Speaker 1>now want prostitution to be legalized. Here's Kamala Harris twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think that sex work ought to be decriminalized?

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<v Speaker 5>I think so, I do. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear from women on this as well.

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<v Speaker 1>What percentage would want prostitution to be legal? You talk

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<v Speaker 1>about destabilizing American families, You talk about just moral rot

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<v Speaker 1>and undermining tradition values, which of course is the mission

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<v Speaker 1>of the left.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The left cannot succeed unless they separate people from their faith.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless they undermine the traditional American family, the left cannot succeed.

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<v Speaker 4>And the big part about that, which is a slippery

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<v Speaker 4>slope even if you're libertarian. So oh, grown women should

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<v Speaker 4>be able to do what they want, but it lends

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<v Speaker 4>itself to child trafficking for those purposes, for underage girls

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<v Speaker 4>to be served up with legalized prostitution, it opens Pandora's

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<v Speaker 4>box for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, that is a great point. In fact, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>talking with me or Mike Coffany's going to join us

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<v Speaker 1>at five thirty six about the latest in Aurora. We

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<v Speaker 1>played earlier a big story NBC out of Montana talking

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<v Speaker 1>about how this same TDA gang that has caused such

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<v Speaker 1>havoc and Aurora, you know, is now sex trafficking American

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<v Speaker 1>women into prostitution in different states around the country, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know they didn't list Colorado, but the Gazette

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<v Speaker 1>has done some great work on that. And from what

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen of this TDA gang in Colorado, is there

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<v Speaker 1>any rea into doubt they're doing here what they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>in these other states as well. All thanks to Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden, the Open Border, and everybody poll us all

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of these Dems to just say yeah, wide

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<v Speaker 1>open border, right, shows how much they care about women.

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<v Speaker 3>Show, and now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 7>To the auto workers in Michigan, Georgia and all other

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<v Speaker 7>parts of our country, I am pinpointing you for greatness.

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<v Speaker 7>Your industry has been decimated by many decades of incompetent leadership,

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<v Speaker 7>both political and at your company level. You had presidents

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<v Speaker 7>of your company that sold out our country. They didn't

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<v Speaker 7>know what they were doing, they were horrible, and you

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<v Speaker 7>had politicians that were grossly incompetent to let that happen.

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<v Speaker 7>Your auto industry has been decimated. And again with the

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<v Speaker 7>electric car, it's all going to be made in China.

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<v Speaker 7>The head of the United Auto Workers ought to be

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<v Speaker 7>ashamed of himself for what he's done.

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<v Speaker 5>But we're going to turn it around, and we're going

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<v Speaker 5>to turn it around.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and no secret, right. I mean, Trump is going

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<v Speaker 1>to win. There are a lot of reasons he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to win, but one big reason he's going to win

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<v Speaker 1>is he is the candidate of the working people of America.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is what the GOP needs to be and

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<v Speaker 1>consistently be, both to win and to matter. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because obviously, the working people of America have been

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<v Speaker 1>screwed in so many different ways by the Democrats, and

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<v Speaker 1>for the sake of them and their children and the

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<v Speaker 1>future and this country, we've got to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>working people are treated fairly. And why would anybody for

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<v Speaker 1>a second think the Democratic Party would be the party

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. What a major shift that has been

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<v Speaker 1>right in America because for so many years the Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Party was regarded as the party of the working person,

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<v Speaker 1>and now, I mean it just looks down its nose

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<v Speaker 1>at working people. Clearly, the leadership most elected officials do

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<v Speaker 1>five thirty six. We'll talk about whether if President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>from the mayor. But if the President is coming, whether

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<v Speaker 6>Go down to.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful Problo, Colorado where we're carried on the Great KCSJ. Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the Dan Kaplas Show. Welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh Dan, it's good to speak with you again. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>You've actually helped helped me in the past with some

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's good to talk again.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, over the years, I've definitely never voted a color

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<v Speaker 6>recently I heard an argument. I don't know if you're

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<v Speaker 6>I heard you kind of with the last caller say

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh no, no, when we're tying it into this

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<v Speaker 1>election an election cycle and related issues, you bet. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's talked about it more on air over the last

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Well, I had something over the years that has

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what is it, my friend?

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<v Speaker 6>So one of the things that i'd heard was you

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<v Speaker 6>to save that child life. Now, morally I'm against against abortion,

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<v Speaker 6>someone to save a child? Do pregnancy? Right? Makes sense?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for that, I mean, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that this addresses that exactly. And tell me if it doesn't,

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<v Speaker 1>but that the critical distinction so often and so many

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<v Speaker 1>of these different examples is that when we're talking about abortion,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about somebody else's body. Obviously, what makes this

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<v Speaker 1>this separate human located within another human. But they're both

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<v Speaker 1>to be respected for the importance of their bodies. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the end, if you allow legalized abortion, one of

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, that's always been such a key distinction

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<v Speaker 1>when we try to compare abortion to other medical procedures.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that addresses your question, but I think

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<v Speaker 6>Does Yeah, it does. I'm just I sit there and

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<v Speaker 6>or a parent, or even someone else for that matter,

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<v Speaker 6>I guess to relate it to abortion, we'll say you

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<v Speaker 6>she might be able to save this child's life, but

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<v Speaker 6>you can't force her to go through an operation to

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<v Speaker 6>that same not apply.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're looking to the intent of the procedure, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when the intent of an abortion is to

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<v Speaker 1>that moves you into a completely different category on every level.

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<v Speaker 6>That makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, one you're

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<v Speaker 6>withholding a procedure and the other you're intentionally going from

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<v Speaker 6>perform the procedure.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and and your your intent and performing the procedure

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<v Speaker 1>is to kill a human life. Yes, and uh yeah, Brian, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about abortion is obviously major issue in the campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>Camalaios trying to hang her hat on it. But the

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<v Speaker 1>big development today is that Harris is now proposing doing

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<v Speaker 1>the abortion policy making away from the states. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that is such a bizarrely radical position that would destabilize

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<v Speaker 1>this nation. To now have the US Senate, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having such major legislation passed if one party has a

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<v Speaker 1>simple majority by a single vote in the Senate. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what could possibly go wrong?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>You could see how the country would be thrown into

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<v Speaker 1>total chaos. Every two years or so, all right, abortion

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<v Speaker 1>now legal, all fifty states states were taking it away,

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<v Speaker 1>and two years from now, okay, abortion now illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>States.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to decide for yourself. And then of course,

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<v Speaker 1>if the filibuster is eliminated for abortion, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>a very desperate Kamala Harris while also confirming how crazy

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<v Speaker 1>It is now far left she is, and causes Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Manchin to come out and say he's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>support her anymore. Height five five for zero five eight

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<v Speaker 1>two five five the number Mayor Mike Kaufman. Next the

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<v Speaker 1>latest from Aura, including the TDA Gang. You're on the

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<v Speaker 3>You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>What could make it better?

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan, Oh yeah, Mayor Mike Kaufman joins us on the

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<v Speaker 1>Dan CAPLA show. Mister Mayor, how you.

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<v Speaker 5>Doing, Oh, I'm doing great, Thanks for having me. Good.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you're just checking out different make America great again.

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<v Speaker 1>Hats for the upcoming Trump rally and Aurora looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to seeing you there.

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<v Speaker 5>It is not coming, but I no, I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>that he's not, but I think he would have his

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but that has not happened yet. That was my

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<v Speaker 1>mister mayor. Had heard some media reports that you were

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<v Speaker 5>Is that true or I don't do campaign rallies anymore,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'd be happy to take the president around showing

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<v Speaker 5>the city, have the police department give him a briefing

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<v Speaker 5>on where we are with TDA. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>certainly do that, and I've stated publicly I'll be voting

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<v Speaker 5>for the president, hope for the former president, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not appear with him? I mean, hey, yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to repeat myself and what I just said,

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<v Speaker 5>let me tell you what to focus on right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But you didn't say why you wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>a while. Don't have any intended intention to get back in.

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<v Speaker 5>Talking about that, and we could spend the whole interview. No,

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<v Speaker 5>let me tell you what I'm working. Let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I knew what was important.

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<v Speaker 5>What's important is how Aurora got into this position. And

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm trying to do is to walk it back

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<v Speaker 5>century city historically, for a city that said that we

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<v Speaker 5>not only would we not do that, but we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>a city that took that position to have a problem

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<v Speaker 5>that it has today. Is what I'm trying to find

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<v Speaker 5>out is to Denver play a role in this to

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<v Speaker 5>what extent did the state play a role in this,

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<v Speaker 5>the surface that because of the fact that we wouldn't engage,

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<v Speaker 5>that the legislature appropriated two point five million dollars to

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<v Speaker 5>go to to go directly to nonprofits to provide assistance.

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<v Speaker 5>So I know that there was some money out there.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that there was a lot more than that,

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<v Speaker 5>City Journal that talked about that they did some core

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<v Speaker 5>requests and found that they believed that the well that

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<v Speaker 5>the city and County of Denver gave money to some

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<v Speaker 5>of these nonprofits to basically house some of these migrants,

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<v Speaker 5>and that there was a contract between one of these

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<v Speaker 5>nonprofit organizations receiving the money that maybe it was federal

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<v Speaker 5>money or whatever, but managed by Denver that went to

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<v Speaker 5>one of these nonprofits that very well could have put

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<v Speaker 5>the Venezuelans in these buildings. So we don't I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>how many came, how many did they put here? Was

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<v Speaker 5>there any vetting? Obviously we know there's not vetting at

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<v Speaker 5>the border, right, but was it. But if I were

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<v Speaker 5>to put to put without telling the mayor to put

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<v Speaker 5>Venezuelan migrants in the city of Aurora or in other migrants,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I wouldn't want to put the more promising ones,

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<v Speaker 5>them in my programs and put the ones that were

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<v Speaker 5>probably questionable to put them in Aurora. Why Aurora, Well,

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<v Speaker 5>because I think that they felt that they could get

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor Mike Kauffman our cast now, mister Mayor, without subpoena power,

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<v Speaker 1>how can you get to the bottom of that? And

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<v Speaker 1>can you get subpoena power?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's a good question. I mean, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>the City of Castle Rock. I think that they're doing

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<v Speaker 5>some litigation against Denver. But but there are mechanisms. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>And we've also I've asked my staff to reach out

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<v Speaker 5>to these three nonprofits that are Aurora based and say

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<v Speaker 5>can you give can you give us copies of your contracts,

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<v Speaker 5>but we can't force that. But there are corre requests.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, this story out of this is called The

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<v Speaker 5>independent journalist. Christopher Rufo is a Senior fellow at the

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<v Speaker 5>Manhattan Institute and contributing editor to a city Journal. So

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<v Speaker 5>somebody sent it to me online and so I'm just

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<v Speaker 5>trying to verify the information because they don't include, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the documents that they that they said that they secured.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's important to trace it back for a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of reasons. Number one, I mean, what were these people

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<v Speaker 5>given to come over here? Was it three months? Were

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<v Speaker 5>at And so this really goes back to my first

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<v Speaker 5>altercation with Mayor Johnston over this issue right after became

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<v Speaker 5>a mayor during the heights of this migrant crisis, where

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<v Speaker 5>he reached out to me and said can you help?

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<v Speaker 5>And I said no. But what he did well, I

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<v Speaker 5>made the mistake first of saying he asked, can I

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<v Speaker 5>use one of your hotels? And I said yes? And

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<v Speaker 5>then that's when it was an extended to say hotel

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<v Speaker 5>that he took over the entire hotel with migrants, pushed

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<v Speaker 5>all these people out on the street. And they these

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<v Speaker 5>they were essentially the working poor people who can't afford

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<v Speaker 5>to a lease or can't get a lease, but and

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<v Speaker 5>pay week to week. And so I said, okay, you

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<v Speaker 5>what i've Then, what I really learned is he had

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<v Speaker 5>no plan for them afterwards. So in other words, once

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<v Speaker 5>their thirty day voucher expired in this in this hotel,

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<v Speaker 5>they were on the street in Aura, and so I said,

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<v Speaker 5>pick him up, and he picked him up. And that

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<v Speaker 5>was the last conversation we had on the issue. And

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<v Speaker 5>so what I think he did, if that, if I

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<v Speaker 5>can verify it, I mean, if if he's it wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>just a state, it was Denver too. That uh, then

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<v Speaker 5>there were no conversations that he that he did contracts,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, without informing me directly to some Aura based

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<v Speaker 5>nonprofits flooded him with some money to take however many

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<v Speaker 5>and I want to I want to know how many

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<v Speaker 5>were put in this city.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, me or Mike Coffin got to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of that, right because obviously, if you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor of one city, if you've got this governor,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got these Democrats just to imposing this immigration

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<v Speaker 1>crisis on a sovereign community that has said no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really big deal and that has to be known.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wish there's a way for you to get

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<v Speaker 1>subpoena power because I know the games they play with

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<v Speaker 1>CORA requests and things like that. But I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 1>have very skilled people who know how to work through that,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're going to have to be persistent.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's hopeful, and let's hope it doesn't take litigation.

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<v Speaker 5>It's possible that it might. But I mean this is

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<v Speaker 5>you know, desperate people do desperate things. I mean, these

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<v Speaker 5>are people without work authorization. I think they have to

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<v Speaker 5>be one hundred and fifty days. I mean, all of

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<v Speaker 5>a sudden, in a roar, I'm seeing all these people

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<v Speaker 5>with squeegees on the courtnet. I'm seeing families on the

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<v Speaker 5>street that I've never seen before. And it's it's part

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<v Speaker 5>of the migrant crisis that has bled over to the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's created by Kamala Harris and Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to all these other lefties who encourage it.

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<v Speaker 1>But but mister mayor, what's the current state of the

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<v Speaker 1>TDA gang in Aura. We played a sound out of

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<v Speaker 1>NBC Montana earlier about how the TDA gang is sex

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<v Speaker 1>trafficking across the country right now and louring American women

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<v Speaker 1>into sexual slavery as well. Is what's that that TDA

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<v Speaker 1>state of affairs and Aurora.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, well, they're organized criminals and so you know, they

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<v Speaker 5>can be engaged engaged in our host of things. We

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<v Speaker 5>certainly had a briefing by the Drug Enforcement Agency that

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<v Speaker 5>they're involved in fentanyl. In fentanyl in this city is

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<v Speaker 5>just crippling. Yeah, I mean our state streets are flooded

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<v Speaker 5>with fetanyl. It drives the homeless crisis. And if you

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<v Speaker 5>look at if you go to the website for the

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<v Speaker 5>Oral Police Department, I think Aura dot go just if you,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, put in a Royal Police depart a Colorado

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<v Speaker 5>to come up and they and they have essentially a

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<v Speaker 5>log of all the rest that they've made. And so

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<v Speaker 5>I would advise your viewers to take a look at that.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's it's it's not just now TDA is a

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<v Speaker 5>big issue, but I mean I'm concerned at multiple levels

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<v Speaker 5>TDA being one of them. But another one is just

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<v Speaker 5>simple retail theft. I mean, if you have people here

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<v Speaker 5>that are given short term assistance, that have no resources

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<v Speaker 5>of their own, that you know, and we're not a

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<v Speaker 5>city in a county. We don't have the human services

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<v Speaker 5>functions that Denver does and those streams of revenue that

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<v Speaker 5>come with it. We're in three different counties, so it's

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<v Speaker 5>pretty complicated. But we don't direct those county governments. They

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<v Speaker 5>decide what they're going to do, but what kind of

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<v Speaker 5>cost and it's and it's a cost burden on our

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<v Speaker 5>on our school districts. So what is the cost burn what?

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<v Speaker 5>You know? What are the potential criminal impacts of people

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<v Speaker 5>you know, that have no mess to support themselves, that

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<v Speaker 5>can't legally work, that are in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>And mister mayor, we have about thirty seconds left. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for being so generous with your time. But can

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<v Speaker 1>we agree that when it comes to the future, that

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<v Speaker 1>if Donald Trump is elected president, that there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be much better border control and there are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be fewer folks coming into this country illegally, including to

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<v Speaker 1>Aurora from Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I certainly believe, so I hope. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>one thing. I think that as a lawyer that if

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<v Speaker 5>you would look at I think it would be a

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<v Speaker 5>fascinating program to see what is the impact of reversing

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<v Speaker 5>Chevron Defronce that has been I think law in this

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<v Speaker 5>country for about forty years. That gave a tremendous administrative

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<v Speaker 5>powers to the agencies of the federal government to make

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<v Speaker 5>decisions without statutory without direct statutory authority, and so but

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm there's no question he'll be better than

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<v Speaker 5>Harris on the issue, but I hope that there is.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's so we need immigration reform in this country.

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<v Speaker 5>It's way too hard hard to come legally. It's so

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<v Speaker 5>easy to come illegally into this country, and I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think we're getting the talent that we need as a

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<v Speaker 5>result of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Mayor, grateful for the time today, look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>the next visit.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, sir. That is a mayor. Mike Kaufman. You're

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<v Speaker 1>on the Dan Caplas Show.

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<v Speaker 3>And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 7>What a nice looking man. Who is that? Oh? That shucks,

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<v Speaker 7>what a wonderful looking person. I'm just checking out the

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<v Speaker 7>hairstyl as I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I'm checking, I'm talking, I'm looking up, I'm saying

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<v Speaker 7>I don't love it. Everyone, What the hell can you

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<v Speaker 7>do that I can do about it? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>We stuck with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump in his own hair, that's a new one.

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<v Speaker 4>Self deprecating humor, something his opponent is incapable of.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and that's why, Well, that's not the real reason

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<v Speaker 1>she's not going to the L. Smith Dinner. And listen,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't know about the L. Smith Dinner, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a really, really big deal in the Catholic community. It's

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<v Speaker 1>part of American political tradition. The nominee Democrat and Republican

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<v Speaker 1>go to this dinner together just before election day, some

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<v Speaker 1>self deprecating humor, takes some shots at each other. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just part of America. But it's a really big Catholic

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<v Speaker 1>fundraiser in New York. So here is a Cardinal Timothy

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<v Speaker 1>Dolan from New York who's widely respected throughout the Catholic

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<v Speaker 1>community in America. In fact, I think he has a

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<v Speaker 1>satellite radio show and worldwide as well. So here's what

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<v Speaker 1>he has to say about that. We're disappointed.

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<v Speaker 8>We were looking forward to giving the vice president and enthusiastic,

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<v Speaker 8>well welcome, and we kind of we were confident that

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<v Speaker 8>she would find this. You know, she speaks very much

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<v Speaker 8>about the high ideals and how it's good to get

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<v Speaker 8>away from division and come together in unity and all.

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<v Speaker 8>That's what the Al Smith Dinner is all about. We

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<v Speaker 8>haven't given up yet. We're not used to this. We

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<v Speaker 8>don't know how to handle it. This hasn't happened in

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<v Speaker 8>forty years since Walter Mondale turned down the invitation, and

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<v Speaker 8>remember he lost forty nine out of fifty states.

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<v Speaker 1>Not subtle from Cardinal Dolan. Yeah, listen, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying this because I'm Catholic, but whoever wins the Catholic

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<v Speaker 1>vote almost always wins the presidency. And that's particularly magnified

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<v Speaker 1>in a race like this where the Blue Wall states

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be so prominent. So stiffing the l

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<v Speaker 1>Smith Dinner, Ryan, I think there's a decent chance that

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<v Speaker 1>she reverses Field on that.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would I mean, she's got to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the reason she get you know, and these are

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<v Speaker 1>not my words. Russkominski, highly respected talk show host on

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<v Speaker 1>eight fifty k ware her sister station, called her a

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<v Speaker 1>mental midget. And ross is not a flamethrower. No, but

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<v Speaker 1>and those are not my words, those are Rosses. But

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<v Speaker 1>as I've said, she obviously doesn't have the type of intelligence,

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<v Speaker 1>the type of mental capacity necessary to be president. Anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who can't do a press conference can't be president. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think she lacks the mental ability to go

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<v Speaker 1>to that dinner and do well. But whatever the reasoning is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it is at the very least extraordinarily risky for her.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wouldn't be shocked if she reverses Field. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they know they're in for a major thumping

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<v Speaker 1>a week from tonight because that's when Vance is decimating walls, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not even going to call it a debate.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a decimation of walls. And they

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<v Speaker 1>know that it's going to be a very bad night

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<v Speaker 1>for the Harris campaign. I think that's one reason they're

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<v Speaker 1>begging for a second debate. The biggest reason is she

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<v Speaker 1>knows she didn't do what she needs to in the

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<v Speaker 1>first debate. But I cannot wait for a week from

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<v Speaker 1>tonight because unless the moderators, and this one's on CNN, right,

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<v Speaker 1>unless the moderators just step in and literally throw their

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<v Speaker 1>bodies between vance and walls. How does walls survive that? Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a good talker. I'm not trying to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lower expectations for him. He's a good talker. But if

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<v Speaker 1>he has to answer questions, there is no good answer

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<v Speaker 1>about her record about these extreme positions she has taken.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's if she's really changed him? When did she

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<v Speaker 1>change him? Why did she? And and things he's done

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<v Speaker 1>and things he's lied about and things he's supported.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it's CBS by the way that whoever.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, it's going to be a tough night for

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<v Speaker 1>a really tough night from Ryan. Thank you on the

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<v Speaker 1>verge of your fiftieth birthday. This is very exciting for

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<v Speaker 1>all of us. Kelly Human Sunshine, thank you again. Apologies

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<v Speaker 1>to have but he didn't get through. Please call us tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>On The Dan Kaplis Show,
