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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the American way, right, they said it in
Speaker 2: the Declaration of Independence. You know that the first of
Speaker 2: these rights is life, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. So
Speaker 2: this time each Thursday, we're really fortunate to have doctor
Speaker 2: Catherine Wheeler with us to talk about the abortion issue
Speaker 2: from a medical standpoint, and I think it's real value added.
Speaker 2: I know it as a listener because doctor, I don't
Speaker 2: know if I told you this story, but I think
Speaker 2: I first got introduced to you when I heard you
Speaker 2: maybe on a national broadcast or some radio show and
Speaker 2: I'm driving down the street and it just cut through
Speaker 2: the noise because it was value added. I was learning
Speaker 2: some things medically, and so I appreciate you doing this
Speaker 2: segment each Thursday, and other topics are going to cover
Speaker 2: this hour. I'm deep diving the Epstein thing, not because
Speaker 2: I think it'solitical problem for president it isn't, but because
Speaker 2: something scandalous happen in two thousand and eight when our
Speaker 2: federal government essentially, well they didn't drop the charges against them,
Speaker 2: but they should have put them away for life, and
Speaker 2: they didn't. That's the scandal in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: and I'm deep diving that as we continue the program. Doctor,
Speaker 2: Thanks for being here again. I know we wanted to
Speaker 2: get into today that the medical truths surrounding the claim
Speaker 2: that we're hearing that these new abortion laws that do
Speaker 2: more to protect children before birth are leading to bad
Speaker 2: outcomes for women. So welcome back and love your thoughts
Speaker 2: on this.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Stan for having me on again.
Speaker 3: It's always a pleasure. I thought today we might talk
Speaker 3: about a series that Pro Publica is doing. That's an
Speaker 3: investigative journalist site that it's a nonprofit and their mission
Speaker 3: is on including them, is to expose abuses of power
Speaker 3: and the rails of public trusts of institutions. And they're
Speaker 3: going along. So you've got journalists and they're going along
Speaker 3: with the American College of Obgyn, which is our major
Speaker 3: medical professional organization for obgyn doctors, and they've started a
Speaker 3: campaign called Blame the Bands. And so what you're seeing
Speaker 3: is these stories coming up, especially in states like Texas
Speaker 3: that have significant restrictions on abortion, and claiming that some
Speaker 3: bad outcomes that women are having are because of abortion restrictions.
Speaker 3: The American College of Obgyn would like to have completely
Speaker 3: no regulation at all of abortion. So essentially Colorado law
Speaker 3: is what they want across the country and they're doing
Speaker 3: anything they can to do that. So a report came
Speaker 3: out on July first, and this is the headline, A
Speaker 3: striking trend after Texas ban's abortion, more women nearly bled
Speaker 3: to death during miscarriage. Now that sounds really frightening, but
Speaker 3: when you dive into it and go to what they did.
Speaker 3: They looked at discharge reports from ambulatory surgery, so outpatient
Speaker 3: surgery centers and hospitals where women came into the emergency department,
Speaker 3: but they didn't separate out miscarriage. And what we know
Speaker 3: they looked at seven years and during this seven years,
Speaker 3: the pandemic happened. And what happened during the pandemic is
Speaker 3: drug induced abortions became unregulated and so women quit having
Speaker 3: to go in for visits. So now we don't know
Speaker 3: how far along they are. We know the further along
Speaker 3: they are in the pregnancy that the more likely they
Speaker 3: are to have hemorrhage and complete abortions and other complications.
Speaker 3: And they're also ordering online from these websites that all
Speaker 3: they do is fill out of form and claim however
Speaker 3: far along date they are, so they've got no medical care.
Speaker 3: And so we've seen because of that, we've seen the
Speaker 3: number of drug induced abortions go up to sixty three
Speaker 3: percent in our country. So that's the number one way
Speaker 3: that induced abortions are not done. So pro Publica did
Speaker 3: not separate out miscarriages, don't verify to stational ages. They
Speaker 3: didn't look to see whether they were induced abortions, and
Speaker 3: even if they did, these websites advise women that they
Speaker 3: should claim that they're having a miscarriage. So we know
Speaker 3: that eighty percent of the time that they actually are
Speaker 3: incorrectly coded as a miscarriage instead of an abortion. So
Speaker 3: it's very complicated data when you look at what they
Speaker 3: actually did. It's not a scientific report. It's just the
Speaker 3: investigative journalists looking at it and making some assumptions and
Speaker 3: coming up some numbers. And seventy eight percent of the
Speaker 3: time they couldn't tell what justestational age, whether they were
Speaker 3: first trimester, second trimester, third trimester, and the later they are,
Speaker 3: the more likely they are. The hemorrhage that's the number
Speaker 3: one complication of an induced abortion by drugs, but they
Speaker 3: included that in their first Trimestor report and then they
Speaker 3: called them all miscarriages. So you know, we don't know
Speaker 3: what the increase in transfusion rate is caused by. I
Speaker 3: am suspicious that it's because we now have unregulated drugs
Speaker 3: for abortion and women are taking them too late and
Speaker 3: having these complications. So it's an interesting report stirring up
Speaker 3: the sphere of banning or restricting in any way abortion.
Speaker 3: That's the goal, and I would encourage people as they
Speaker 3: see things like this, We would love to answer those questions.
Speaker 3: If they want to write in, we'd love to go
Speaker 3: through the data and help them to understand. But what
Speaker 3: they're claiming that they showed, they're not. It's not what
Speaker 3: they're showing. And I think the last thing I'd say
Speaker 3: is they claim that the doctors can't intervene when somebody
Speaker 3: is hemorrhaging during pregnancy and the pregnancy, and actually they can.
Speaker 3: Every single state in this country, it is legal to
Speaker 3: end to pregnancy if a woman is having a life
Speaker 3: threatened complication, even if there's still a heartbeat. So if
Speaker 3: the doctors are confused or the hospitals are confused, it's
Speaker 3: the job of the legislature and the medical associations to
Speaker 3: make sure doctors know that they can use reasonable medical
Speaker 3: judgment and do what they need to do for that
Speaker 3: woman's life.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks for exposing that, and it's one of the
Speaker 2: reasons this segment with you is so helpful. You know,
Speaker 2: you can bring that medical perspective, the medical truth to
Speaker 2: the table on that. And by the way, with Texas
Speaker 2: as you were talking about that, I went online and
Speaker 2: it looks like Texas's population has increased almost five percent.
Speaker 2: And that's a whole lot of people as big as
Speaker 2: Texas is. You know, sense these more restrictive abortion laws
Speaker 2: went into place, So it's obviously not stopping women from
Speaker 2: moving there, and it's not causing a lot of women
Speaker 2: to move out of Texas. And I take that as
Speaker 2: a very good sign.
Speaker 3: I agree, And I know quite a few doctors who
Speaker 3: practice there. I know one woman who just finished for
Speaker 3: residency in ob g I N. And you know that
Speaker 3: the bands or restrictions actually don't change the way we
Speaker 3: care for women with miscarriage erect topic brings that they
Speaker 3: have no effect on it, but you know, it's a
Speaker 3: way to stir up fearing people so that they're afraid
Speaker 3: to vote against any abortion restrictions because nobody wants a
Speaker 3: woman to die. That's horrible, but they don't. They're not
Speaker 3: actually causing the problem that's being twanged. We would call
Speaker 3: it if somebody doesn't get appropriate care. You know you're
Speaker 3: an attorney, we would call that medical negligence. Right, that's
Speaker 3: what needs to be dealt with.
Speaker 2: Right exactly. And so, doctor, in our last minute or
Speaker 2: so together, is there a particular book you would recommend
Speaker 2: for lay people like myself to just a particular book
Speaker 2: that you think is a go to when it comes
Speaker 2: to that the medical facts surrounding abortion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a really good question. The one that
Speaker 3: I've gone to the most just understanding the issues is
Speaker 3: Scott Klusendorf kl U S E N D O r F.
Speaker 3: Scott Klusendorf does a really good job outlining the things
Speaker 3: that you hear from people about why they think that
Speaker 3: we that women need abortion and really helping us to
Speaker 3: understand the issues behind it and why that's actually not true.
Speaker 3: That was one of the first people I went to
Speaker 3: when I started dealing with my past as an abortionist
Speaker 3: and understanding what I had been told and believed that
Speaker 3: obviously had not been true.
Speaker 2: So Clusendorf common spelling, okay, got.
Speaker 3: Clues and door and I think it's called The Case
Speaker 3: for Life.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, and then he goes.
Speaker 3: Through every argument that there is.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I was just looking at my drawer here
Speaker 2: to see if I happen to have that book, but no,
Speaker 2: thank you, I will get that one. And then what
Speaker 2: about a website, any any website you think is go to.
Speaker 3: Well for the medical information The American Association of Pro
Speaker 3: Life OBG i N And it's easy. It's a a
Speaker 3: p LG dot org. The resources. If you hit the
Speaker 3: resource tab, there are podcast there's information. Often we respond
Speaker 3: when we see these kinds of things as the media
Speaker 3: to help people to understand. So you just hit the
Speaker 3: resource tab aaplog dot org.
Speaker 2: See, that's that's perfect, because I really do believe we've
Speaker 2: reached the point now in this great debate where now
Speaker 2: that states can actually decide for themselves, many more people
Speaker 2: are interested in researching and getting to the truth. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's to support a preformed argument. And but one way
Speaker 2: or the other, more people I think are interested in
Speaker 2: those details. And there's no doubt in my mind. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you see the same thing doctor, Once people get
Speaker 2: to the medical reality, those medical facts, that that's virtually
Speaker 2: always going to tip people to the pro life side.
Speaker 3: Well it is, and I think you know, when you
Speaker 3: look at the arguments, often they don't deal with evidence,
Speaker 3: so you see a lot of calling it misinformation, but
Speaker 3: you know, show us where we're wrong. And I understand
Speaker 3: for the for the person like a lay person, this
Speaker 3: has to be so confusing, But my hope is that
Speaker 3: we can outline, Okay, this is where the evidence comes from.
Speaker 3: And like for myself, when I started actually going to
Speaker 3: the evidence myself instead of just going to American College
Speaker 3: of obiqi N, I realized that the information they were
Speaker 3: presenting was either very old and we had new information
Speaker 3: like with fetal pain, or it was actually incorrect. It
Speaker 3: was heartbreaking for me because I trusted that organization and
Speaker 3: they do a great job in other areas. When it
Speaker 3: comes to things like abortion and gender, they're not telling
Speaker 3: the whole story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got politicized, but yeah, well thank you for
Speaker 2: your courage and for joining us each week, and we'll
Speaker 2: look forward to next Thursday.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Dan.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you greative doctor Wheeler to join us again. Hey,
Speaker 2: when we come back, I'll get you the latest on Epstein.
Speaker 2: And then this interesting topic with the diamond market in
Speaker 2: America really threatened right now because of these artificially made diamonds.
Speaker 2: But why would anybody buy a real one anymore? You're
Speaker 2: on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 5: Donald Trump wants to stage a UFC fight on the
Speaker 5: White House lawn. The last time he staged a fight
Speaker 5: in DC, Mike Pen's almost died. You don't have to
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 4: It was fine.
Speaker 5: I didn't write it. Actually, there was supposed to be
Speaker 5: an Epstein joke here, but as it got deleted, probably
Speaker 5: deleted itself, right, That's why we were probably actually, let's
Speaker 5: move on as a country and ignore that.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's ABC Disney last night at the SP's
Speaker 2: And there was some funny stuff in that monologue. But
Speaker 2: I wanted to lead into a quick Epstein hit with you,
Speaker 2: because you know, there's this perception out there the Dems
Speaker 2: are trying to spin up that this is hurting Trump politically,
Speaker 2: so they are all argasmic about it and all that,
Speaker 2: but it's really just hurting the Dems. And so I'm
Speaker 2: not worried about this for Trump politically at all. And
Speaker 2: the reason I'm pushing for the release of the key
Speaker 2: information is just the right and wrong of it, and
Speaker 2: just confidence in our justice system. There is zero, in
Speaker 2: my mind possibility that President Trump did anything illegal whatsoever
Speaker 2: in connection with Jeffrey Epstein. Not a shred of evidence
Speaker 2: of it. And if there was anything out there, you know,
Speaker 2: you would have heard about it already, right, So this
Speaker 2: isn't about that. And the other thing is all of
Speaker 2: the coverage right now, which has focused on Epstein files,
Speaker 2: client lists, etc. I think is missing the real scandal,
Speaker 2: And the real scandal was back in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: he had this guy, They had this guy sex trafficking.
Speaker 2: They would have been able to put him away forever,
Speaker 2: and our federal government cut him a sick, deplorable deal
Speaker 2: where he just did twelve months. He did less than that,
Speaker 2: but it was twelve months in county jail, and he
Speaker 2: got to spend twelve hours a day in his cush
Speaker 2: office and for that, the federal government agreed not to
Speaker 2: prosecute him or his associates on anything. That's a scandal,
Speaker 2: and we need to get to the bottom of how
Speaker 2: that happened. Some say he was an intelligence agent. If
Speaker 2: that was the truth, then we need to know that.
Speaker 2: Right he's dead now no harm would come from that.
Speaker 2: We need to know that. But that thing stinks. Back
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight, and then people have this
Speaker 2: fair question about Okay, who was going to this island
Speaker 2: with him? And by the way, the way the Epstein
Speaker 2: sex trafficking thing worked here in the States for the
Speaker 2: most part, and it's just so sick and insidious. If
Speaker 2: you have young years in the car, you probably don't
Speaker 2: want him hearing this. But what Epstein was doing was
Speaker 2: he had set up this this scheme where he would
Speaker 2: go out and he would have people recruit at the
Speaker 2: young girls at the mall and high schools, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And these were once he got a few young girls
Speaker 2: in the door of his mansion, then he'd pay them
Speaker 2: to go recruit other young girls. And so they would
Speaker 2: be offered three hundred dollars cash. And this is back
Speaker 2: in two thousand and you know, four five six three
Speaker 2: hundred dollars cash to come to his mansion and this
Speaker 2: gets graphic, and to take off their clothes and give
Speaker 2: him a massage and then he would pay them if
Speaker 2: they were willing for various types of sex acts and
Speaker 2: so this was These were largely, you know, young women
Speaker 2: who were under the age of consent, so this was rape.
Speaker 2: This was rape. And then eventually a mother went to
Speaker 2: the police, the mother of a fourteen year old who
Speaker 2: he had committed this crime against, and she turned him
Speaker 2: in and Palm Beach police got involved, and each time
Speaker 2: they talked to a girl, they would then find multiple
Speaker 2: other girls because of the nature of this sex trafficking ring,
Speaker 2: and so they had him and the Palm Beach Police,
Speaker 2: god love him, they weren't happy with what the Palm
Speaker 2: Beach local state prosecutor was doing, so they went to
Speaker 2: the Feds because they wanted to put this guy away.
Speaker 2: And then the Feds sold everybody out, everybody out, and
Speaker 2: did that deal with Epstein. They would never prosecute him
Speaker 2: or any of his associates and exchanged for twelve months
Speaker 2: in county jail. And one of the most obscene things
Speaker 2: about this the charge he pled to picturing a miner
Speaker 2: for prostitution. These were not prostitutes. These are victims of rape.
Speaker 2: So that's that's the mega scandal. And yes, we need
Speaker 2: to know if you can identify the people involved in
Speaker 2: his crimes, but he also had this entire orbit which
Speaker 2: was non criminal and presumably did not know about his crimes.
Speaker 2: And so the concern about, Okay, you put all those
Speaker 2: names out there in connection with Epstein, You ruin all
Speaker 2: those people when they're innocent of any kind of criminal activity. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't do that as Americans, right, We're not going
Speaker 2: to do that, but we have every right to get
Speaker 2: to the bottom of who's behind this scandal. In two
Speaker 2: thousand and eight when they could have jailed them for
Speaker 2: life and they didn't, and then the way he ends
Speaker 2: up dead in that jail cell is Miami Herald did
Speaker 2: a great exposy on him, real investigative journalism in eighteen
Speaker 2: that led to some additional federal charges, and at that point,
Speaker 2: he's in a jail cell in July of nineteen and
Speaker 2: he's dead on August tenth of nineteen. So that's the
Speaker 2: quick chronology. But I do think we need to get
Speaker 2: to the bottom of that scandal in seven. Clearly, Ryan,
Speaker 2: this is not hurting the president politically should not, but
Speaker 2: his numbers are actually up with Republicans. I know we
Speaker 2: have some sound on that, but we don't have the
Speaker 2: time to play it right now. I do want to
Speaker 2: get into in this next segment, and it's lighter, but
Speaker 2: this interesting question of diamonds. You know, would you be
Speaker 2: offended if let's say you're being proposed to or whatever
Speaker 2: and somebody gives you a lab made diamond Because there's
Speaker 2: a great piece out today on how the diamond industry
Speaker 2: is really on the brink because these lab made diamonds
Speaker 2: are so identical, sometimes better. So I want to dive
Speaker 2: into that with you, just get your perspective on it.
Speaker 2: You know, this stuff wasn't around when I proposed to Amy,
Speaker 2: so hers is real. But I'm thinking what I propose
Speaker 2: with the lab made today here on the Dankpla Show.
Speaker 4: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Glad you're with us Action Pack Show. Today, I'll get
Speaker 2: back to this deep dive on the Epstein thing in
Speaker 2: a sick and to join our friend Richard Holtorf who's
Speaker 2: running for GOP vice chair. Richard thanks for spending a
Speaker 2: minute with us.
Speaker 6: How you doing I'm doing great, Dan, It's always a
Speaker 6: pleasure to be on your program.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, my friend. This fill people in on
Speaker 2: the election. When's it going to happen right now? And
Speaker 2: why should you be the new vice chair?
Speaker 6: So the State Central Committee for the Colorado Republican Party
Speaker 6: is going to meet on Monday in a virtual meeting
Speaker 6: of about five hundred and twenty five delegates.
Speaker 3: That's all the.
Speaker 6: County chairs, vice chairs, secretaries, and also bonus members for
Speaker 6: the large counties, and then elected officials of the state
Speaker 6: and national level. Those are the ones that are eligible
Speaker 6: to vote to select who should be on the Executive
Speaker 6: Equimittee for the colorad GOP. And that's going to happen
Speaker 6: at seven pm on Monday, July twenty first, sir, And
Speaker 6: there's a lot of reasons why people should vote for me,
Speaker 6: but I'm going to go over the top ten real fast.
Speaker 6: Number one, I want to you to find and build
Speaker 6: a strong party because we can win statewide elections. Because
Speaker 6: winning is everything for Republicans. Remember that I've got a
Speaker 6: lot of experience. He served in the legislature. I was
Speaker 6: the House Republican whip, and I think experience matters. Dan, Also,
Speaker 6: I support all Republicans. I want to lift everybody up.
Speaker 6: I want to take everybody to the balcony and not
Speaker 6: try to shove some Republicans in the basement. And I
Speaker 6: can't say that for the person that I'm running against,
Speaker 6: who has constantly bashed Republicans through the Rhino Watch website
Speaker 6: that he's responsible for. Additionally, you know this, I'm a
Speaker 6: retired colonel spent twenty nine years in the US Army.
Speaker 6: I think the experience matters because they just don't give
Speaker 6: that rank away.
Speaker 2: Sir. I'm fercely loyal.
Speaker 6: I'm fiercely loyal to anybody and anything that I hooked
Speaker 6: my wagon to. You got to pull the pin because
Speaker 6: I'm not letting go. And that's important. I'm a third
Speaker 6: generation cattle rancher's been on the land and on this
Speaker 6: ranch that this ranch started in eighteen ninety two, and
Speaker 6: I'm dedicated to that, just like I'm a dedicated Republican.
Speaker 6: This is something you'll appreciate, Don.
Speaker 2: I'm a Christian.
Speaker 6: I have a strong faith in God, and I want
Speaker 6: to help others and get back to my community and
Speaker 6: lift people up. I don't want to tear people down.
Speaker 6: I want to lift all Republicans up because we need
Speaker 6: to unify because we have a unique opportunity in twenty
Speaker 6: twenty six. Now, I'm also a realist in this rate shooter.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you things you may not want to hear,
Speaker 6: but I think it's important that they be said. And
Speaker 6: that's kind of uncommon in a lot of political circles. True,
Speaker 6: and the last two things. And Dan, you know this,
Speaker 6: if you want to have the greatest influence on public policy,
Speaker 6: you have.
Speaker 7: To be in power.
Speaker 6: In order to get in power, you have to win.
Speaker 6: If we could win one of the chambers in the
Speaker 6: state House or the state Senate, all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: the radical progressive left is in check Torado. Yeah, state
Speaker 6: wide officers, I tell people we'd love to in a
Speaker 6: few state white offices. And you know, Dan, which one
Speaker 6: do you think is the most important office we should
Speaker 6: try to seek?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm going to say the governor, but
Speaker 2: you're going to say something ext.
Speaker 6: I'm going to say Secretary of State because that has.
Speaker 3: To do with election integrity.
Speaker 6: Governor would be great. That is the golden ring, that's
Speaker 6: the top of the ladder. And that would be great
Speaker 6: in a blue state. It's going to be really hard
Speaker 6: to do, but not impossible. But if we could get
Speaker 6: the secretary of State position and or the attorney general
Speaker 6: position and or the treasurer. You know, there's a lot
Speaker 6: of checks and balances, and if you're in Colorado, no
Speaker 6: matter what your political affiliation is, you should want checks
Speaker 6: and balances because right now, the progressive, radical, woke Marxist
Speaker 6: socialist left, they've gone out of control and we're tired
Speaker 6: of it. Colorado's tired of it. It's too much pedal rights,
Speaker 6: you know, right life, right parent, right to own your
Speaker 6: fire arms. There's so many things that under attack for.
Speaker 6: And then finally I have this strategic picsion help the GPE.
Speaker 6: You can win in twenty twenty six hundred percent. And
Speaker 6: I'm also a common sense Republicans are common sense. That's
Speaker 6: all I got right now.
Speaker 2: Well, you got a lot right there, my friend eighteen
Speaker 2: ninety two on the ranch.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Buffalo Springs Landing Cattle Wow started.
Speaker 2: In Press ninety two. That is impressive. Well, well, man,
Speaker 2: we appreciate the time today and then be interested to
Speaker 2: see what happens Monday night.
Speaker 6: It's going to be an exciting time, and I want
Speaker 6: to reach out and say, folks, if you're a Central
Speaker 6: Committee state Central Committee member.
Speaker 5: You need to be there.
Speaker 6: You need to log in, get credentialed, and be there
Speaker 6: because the future of the Colorado Republican Party is at stake.
Speaker 6: And I'm telling you, with the right coaches, with the
Speaker 6: right offensive coordinator or the right defensive coordinator, even the
Speaker 6: Broncos can win again.
Speaker 2: And oh they're going to win this year. Ope, they're
Speaker 2: going to win this year. But well, Richard, appreciate the time.
Speaker 2: Good luck out there. Yes, sir, thank you, my friend,
Speaker 2: and thanks for your twenty nine years of service. Sure
Speaker 2: appreciate that.
Speaker 6: Thank you, sir, Thank you for giving up three to
Speaker 6: speak to your audience.
Speaker 2: Always enjoy it. You take care. That is a Richard Oltar.
Speaker 2: So we'll know on Monday night. Right, we'll talk about
Speaker 2: that Tuesday and listen with with there being an opportunity
Speaker 2: here in Colorado in twenty six, Colorado GOP functioning at
Speaker 2: the highest possible level. Yeah, that's important. And here we
Speaker 2: haven't touched yet on the president's condition today. As you
Speaker 2: know by now, he has this common leg ailment. I
Speaker 2: wish he didn't have it. It's this common vein condition,
Speaker 2: as you know, some venus insufficiency, but it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's not one of the more serious levels of this
Speaker 2: et cetera. Obviously, we all get a little bit spooked
Speaker 2: when it's the president, and anything that increases the risk
Speaker 2: of throwing a clot you worry about a lot, right,
Speaker 2: But Ryan, I mean, have we had and you are
Speaker 2: the presidential historian at least for one Woodrow Wilson, But
Speaker 2: have we ever had a president other than maybe Teddy Roosevelt.
Speaker 2: Have we ever had a president who is more of
Speaker 2: a just a beast, just a physical specimen than Trump.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. George W.
Speaker 7: Bush was a really good athlete in his day, and
Speaker 7: he threw out that first pitch after nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: That was That was a good pitch. That was that
Speaker 2: was high pressure, that was that was real.
Speaker 7: I gotta say for his age, Ronald Reagan, you know,
Speaker 7: surviving that assassination attempt with the bullet choken with the
Speaker 7: doctors coming back stronger than ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But yeah, Trump is dynamo.
Speaker 7: There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: That's I mean, you're right your examples. That's really impressive
Speaker 2: to me. But I'm just talking about I'm just talking
Speaker 2: about being a beast. I'm talking about NonStop. The energy.
Speaker 2: That's the thing, right, I mean you look at sixteen
Speaker 2: and then again in twenty you know when he's he's
Speaker 2: i mean in twenty four cycle. Yeah, the schedule, he's
Speaker 2: able to keep the stamina. Yeah, I mean, that's that's
Speaker 2: impressive stuff right there. So yeah, and I'm sure obviously
Speaker 2: he's going to get all the best care and everything.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing that spooks me, is that the
Speaker 2: increased potential throwing a clock, but just pray for the president. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the threat to his health, as we've been talking about
Speaker 2: for years, is much more immediate from those who've been
Speaker 2: trying to kill him for a long time and continue
Speaker 2: to try to kill him, and that I think at
Speaker 2: this point is just a matter of prayers and obviously
Speaker 2: prayers answered as I see it in that Butler field
Speaker 2: three or three seven one, three eight two five five
Speaker 2: the number text d A N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 2: Let me get to some of those, and then I
Speaker 2: do want to get into this diamond stuff because when
Speaker 2: I read that piece today, and it's a good piece
Speaker 2: in the Wall Street Journal about how you know that
Speaker 2: the diamond market is kind of on the brink because
Speaker 2: now all of these you know, artificially made diamonds are
Speaker 2: so impressive, et cetera, and hard to tell from the
Speaker 2: real thing. And I ask myself, Okay, if I was
Speaker 2: proposing to Amy again, you know, back then all they
Speaker 2: had were real diamonds, you know, would I get a
Speaker 2: real diamond or would I get one of these, you know,
Speaker 2: labmate diamonds. Would I then get a much bigger lab
Speaker 2: mate diamond? How big would be too big? How big
Speaker 2: would be ostentatious? Yeah, So I'm anxious to get people's
Speaker 2: take on that Dan ray Epstein files. If the files
Speaker 2: are released, everyone in the files would be tried by
Speaker 2: the public through the media, get a commission and narrow
Speaker 2: the list down. I agree completely. In fact, that's why
Speaker 2: I've been suggesting it on this show. Just the commission.
Speaker 2: It's you can't do a commission right because they can't
Speaker 2: agree when to go to the bathroom. You got to
Speaker 2: get one or two guys or gals who are really
Speaker 2: respected former law enforcement and then have them go through
Speaker 2: and say this is the stuff legally and ethically we
Speaker 2: can make public. But I'm with you on that my
Speaker 2: friend touched or Dan, I think the lapgrown diamonds are
Speaker 2: pretty cool. Considering a diamond, it's just carbon compressed over
Speaker 2: millions of years and under millions of tons of pressure.
Speaker 2: The fact we can now do this in a lab
Speaker 2: is rather amazing, you know, yes it is. And I
Speaker 2: got to tell you my initial reaction is if it
Speaker 2: was today, Obviously, the message I would want to send
Speaker 2: to Amy, if I was proposing her today rather than
Speaker 2: thirty two years ago, you know, would have been how
Speaker 2: much I value you, and so I would have been tempted,
Speaker 2: you know, to get the real diamonds. So there is
Speaker 2: no doubt in her mind that you know I valued
Speaker 2: her that much. But knowing Amy, knowing her then and
Speaker 2: knowing her now, what she'd say is screw that, you know,
Speaker 2: get me the lab made thing and give the money
Speaker 2: to the poor. That's what she'd say. Dan. I bet
Speaker 2: that woman staring at you was trying to decide if
Speaker 2: she had a righteous case you could represent her. We
Speaker 2: got some great texters, Ryan, we have some tremendous texts layer. Dan.
Speaker 2: I just saw the most unusual thing, a woman holding
Speaker 2: a soda in one hand and her phone in the
Speaker 2: other while driving with her elbows? Oh my lord, would
Speaker 2: you call nine one for that? Like I call nine
Speaker 2: one one on a fairly regular basis for obvious impaired drivers,
Speaker 2: people going over one hundred, weaving in out of traffic,
Speaker 2: would you call? Would you call nine one one for that?
Speaker 7: I would first secure my space in a different lane
Speaker 7: far away from said vehicle, and then yeah, you want
Speaker 7: to call that in right, she can't do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then when we come back, we got a
Speaker 2: lot of ground to cover. I'll get more textures in.
Speaker 2: But I want to tell you about one of the
Speaker 2: most terrifying things that's ever happened to a family member
Speaker 2: of mine, and it involved somebody driving with their elbows.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
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Speaker 5: Gitlin Clark retires from the WNBA.
Speaker 4: She's going to.
Speaker 5: Work at a waffle house so she can continue doing
Speaker 5: what she loves most, fistfighting black women.
Speaker 2: So that's just terrible, that's just right, ABC Disney. You know,
Speaker 2: how does it become such a leftist operation? That was
Speaker 2: last night at the SP's right, and you know it's wow.
Speaker 2: You would think the WNBA would protect her, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: she's such a cash cow for that league, just like
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, you would think the NBA would have protected him.
Speaker 2: And you go back and you watch some of that video.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you was a Detroit guy, you were loving it,
Speaker 2: but the way he would just get brutalized and I'm like, NBA,
Speaker 2: are you out of your mind? But you know what,
Speaker 2: the greatest player of all time and you're gonna let
Speaker 2: some thug break his late.
Speaker 7: Well to amend that, there's a documentary that you can
Speaker 7: watch on that rivalry and the Bulls in particular, And
Speaker 7: when Michael Jordan says I took that personally, that's a
Speaker 7: meme now. But what he said that without the Detroit
Speaker 7: Pistons that you talk about diamonds, this kind of refined
Speaker 7: him into the diamond that he became. And six championships later,
Speaker 7: he credited the Detroit Pistons making him a tougher, mentally
Speaker 7: stronger player.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, class guy, But in the meantime, you know,
Speaker 2: his career could have been ended by Lambier and some
Speaker 2: of those other thugs. And so you look at Caitlyn
Speaker 2: Clark and how that league that nobody paid attention to
Speaker 2: other than immediate family, right, And that's no knock on anybody.
Speaker 2: I'd respect women's sports greatly and I don't want men
Speaker 2: playing them. But that the greatest thing that ever happened
Speaker 2: to the WNBA. And they're going to let they ever
Speaker 2: missing all these games because she just gets brutalized out there.
Speaker 2: She's out with the groin injury. Now, I didn't even
Speaker 2: know women could get groin injuries. I thought that was
Speaker 2: only a guy thing. But they're brutalizing her all the time.
Speaker 2: I mean in that league. In the league needs to
Speaker 2: the league needs to protect her. It's like there are
Speaker 2: the Caitlin Clark rules, but those rules are that people
Speaker 2: can get away with anything on her. And I don't
Speaker 2: see it as a racial thing at all. The people
Speaker 2: trying to make it a racial thing. I don't see
Speaker 2: that one little bit. I just see other players that
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a skin color thing. I think
Speaker 2: it's a jealousy thing, you know, regardles list of color.
Speaker 2: Just a jealousy thing in that league. Just boy that
Speaker 2: they should be they should be protecting her. Three or
Speaker 2: three seven three eight two five five text d A
Speaker 2: N five seven seven three nine, but we had this
Speaker 2: text command. Dan saw the most unusual thing, a woman
Speaker 2: holding a soda in one hand and her phone in
Speaker 2: the other while driving with her elbows. And it was
Speaker 2: one of the scariest things that's ever happened to a
Speaker 2: family member of ours. Ryan picture this, Okay, our amazing daughter, Caroline.
Speaker 2: She's coming out of the Cherry Creek mall and all
Speaker 2: of the sudden there's a woman there who has young
Speaker 2: woman like in her twenties maybe, who has a young
Speaker 2: child and no arms. And the woman without any arms
Speaker 2: asks our beautiful daughter, if she would place the child
Speaker 2: in the car seat in the back of the car,
Speaker 2: what would you do in that situation? Well, you would
Speaker 2: help out right, right. But my concern a So Caroline
Speaker 2: was describing this, and because Caroline is the biggest heart
Speaker 2: in the world, and it was like and I said,
Speaker 2: what'd you do? And she said, well, I put the
Speaker 2: child in the car seat in the back of the car.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, God, love you. But that's one of
Speaker 2: the most terrifying things I've ever heard in my life,
Speaker 2: because what if this had been a setup, What if
Speaker 2: this had been a setup to get our daughter or
Speaker 2: some girl to put herself into the back of that
Speaker 2: car and then she's just taken.
Speaker 7: Oh and what you're describing is very similar to the
Speaker 7: kidnapping of the senator's daughter in Silence of the Lambs.
Speaker 2: Oh see, I never saw that. I don't see anything
Speaker 2: man except daughterly Dummer, Caddy shack and the occasional classic.
Speaker 2: But who would want to see that anyway? I mean,
Speaker 2: I bet Amy has I'll ask her, but you know, anyway,
Speaker 2: So it terrified me when I heard the story and
Speaker 2: I called them all and I wanted to see all
Speaker 2: the surveillance tape. I wanted to find out if there
Speaker 2: was somebody dangerous out there, because if it was that
Speaker 2: kind of a setup to try to kidnap somebody, I
Speaker 2: wanted to I wanted to catch that person. It's sad
Speaker 2: that you.
Speaker 7: Got to think of things in those terms, Dan, but
Speaker 7: I totally get why you would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And then you know, I couldn't get And
Speaker 2: I'm not faulting I'd love them all. I can't. I'm
Speaker 2: not faulting them all for anything other than having to
Speaker 2: pay for parking. But it you know, it was the
Speaker 2: same old thing. They can't give you videotape unless you
Speaker 2: file a lawsuit kind of stuff, and I didn't have
Speaker 2: anybody to sue there. I was just trying to protect people.
Speaker 2: But I guess it's possible. I know, I represent really
Speaker 2: badly injured people. I know the technology that we helped
Speaker 2: get for him, It's possible. You had somebody without arms
Speaker 2: and a young child who truly did need the help,
Speaker 2: who was then driving the car away. But but how'd
Speaker 2: you get the child out of the car when you
Speaker 2: got you know what I mean, It just all seemed
Speaker 2: so anyway. I pad you to the Texter for bringing
Speaker 2: back that memory. Ryan, you are again the best in
Speaker 2: the business. Kelly, thank you for human sunshine each and
Speaker 2: every day. We're gonna have some fun tomorrow, some of
Speaker 2: the best political humor of all time, including some instant
Speaker 2: classic roast. We're going to enjoy a wonderful Friday afternoon
Speaker 2: in the summer. Have a safety evening. Please join us
Speaker 2: tomorrow on The Dan Kapla Show.