Speaker 1: From Workhouse Connect and aj Benze fame. Uh, he'd liked
Speaker 1: to be walked on a leash and play really dirty,
Speaker 1: kinky sex games. He is the guy put the cock
Speaker 1: in the peacock network. Okay, bitch, hey, everybody, aj Benzi
Speaker 1: here with fames a bitch. This is your daily Unfiltered
Speaker 1: podcast from March eleven, twenty twenty six three one two
Speaker 1: two six midweek hump Day? Hump Day in March? Is
Speaker 1: there anything worse? Tomorrow will be a week that this
Speaker 1: lady destroyed the door of my car? Do you think
Speaker 1: I have any answer chet for these fucking insurance companies?
Speaker 1: Heart Her insurance company, Geico, actually said to me, well,
Speaker 1: we're having a problem. What's the problem. We don't think
Speaker 1: she ever ensured this car under this policy. She had
Speaker 1: a policy for the all the other car. We're not
Speaker 1: sure if she just bought this car. So maybe it's
Speaker 1: in the mail, Maybe that we need to look at
Speaker 1: the the sales sheet. Whatever. Wait a minute, why is
Speaker 1: this an issue? If she didn't have this on her insurance,
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna pay this. She's gonna pay a
Speaker 1: lot of money. Well, that's how they're waiting to hear Sarah,
Speaker 1: how long is it gonna take days? It could be weeks.
Speaker 1: I'm not riding around in ubers for weeks. I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it. Let's get this on the road. I call
Speaker 1: my insurance company. I keep getting the adjuster. There's nothing
Speaker 1: really be conduments to Benzo until we get the information.
Speaker 1: I swear nobody wants to work anymore. Do these people
Speaker 1: get Goeta? They probably don't a little taste of the
Speaker 1: amount of money that maybe they are gonna give us
Speaker 1: to fix the car. Do they get a little taste?
Speaker 1: If they did, I would understand why they work hard.
Speaker 1: But if they're just sitting around on have fat asses,
Speaker 1: fielding calls and waiting for people to call them. I
Speaker 1: have to find all this out. I have to make
Speaker 1: these calls. They should be calling me unbelievable, ube believable.
Speaker 1: But nothing is uh, nothing makes sense in shitsville I'm
Speaker 1: reading today. I mean, you know you can't make it up.
Speaker 1: A guy was found dead after he cut off his
Speaker 1: own penis on a downtown Los Angeles street. They were
Speaker 1: identify the guy as Ryan Sutherland, thirty one years old,
Speaker 1: died from sharp force injuries. Police found himself mutilating near
Speaker 1: the intersection of Figueroa and Pico. You don't want to
Speaker 1: be anywhere near those streets, especially downtown. Stethel has ruled
Speaker 1: the suicide. He was right by the convention center. Also
Speaker 1: slashed his own throat just for good measure, then also
Speaker 1: stabbed himself and tried to no avail to cut off
Speaker 1: his own arm. Clearly, this man doesn't like living in Shitsville,
Speaker 1: doesn't like his life right now. Imagine if if he
Speaker 1: had a car and the door was ripped off it
Speaker 1: by a un a motorists. I think he wouldn't quite
Speaker 1: as bad as he does now, but it would certainly
Speaker 1: add to his knife skills. Somebody said he took off
Speaker 1: all his clothes as he was walking towardy seven to eleven.
Speaker 1: That's a step up because sometimes they show up in
Speaker 1: the seven eleven naked. So the fact that he didn't
Speaker 1: make it in and collapsed pete. Police don't know the
Speaker 1: motivation for hur to. He's fucking nuts. He belongs to
Speaker 1: the mental hospital, which we have none of. Police don't know.
Speaker 1: They know. Another day in Shitsfield guy, But don't worry.
Speaker 1: He can still vote. I'm sure he can still vote.
Speaker 1: You don't need ID somebody will votes Ryan Sutherland for
Speaker 1: every fucking Democrat it's around for the next ten years.
Speaker 1: Watch remember the name Ryan Sutherland. I'm also there was
Speaker 1: a story today that I got a comment on you
Speaker 1: know what's his Name's wife, Lauren Sanchez, the wife of
Speaker 1: Amazon's owner, the multi multi billionaire. They're trying to say
Speaker 1: that years ago she was trying to get with men
Speaker 1: that had, you know, a big, big career, a big personality,
Speaker 1: which I completely know because I've told you that when
Speaker 1: I was going out in the nineties in la Lauren
Speaker 1: Sanchez was always sexy, always hot, always out. We saw
Speaker 1: her on TV in the mornings, always looking for a
Speaker 1: guy with money. This article says she was obsessed with
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton back in ninety six, just found him enchanting,
Speaker 1: couldn't stop staring at him, and people her friends began
Speaker 1: to call her Monica because this was after the of
Speaker 1: the Dallians, the Trump Trump that Clinton had with Monica Olinsky, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, looks really good all these years later.
Speaker 1: Monica's really good. I mean really good. I think she's
Speaker 1: like fucking pretty, I do, I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 1: how to drink of them one night quickly at a
Speaker 1: bar just shot the ship for a minute. She was
Speaker 1: nice for a couple of long and uh you know,
Speaker 1: she's come out of this thing with flying colors. I
Speaker 1: believe he looks she looks good, doesn't seem bitter. Her
Speaker 1: life didn't get didn't get derailed. But Lawrence Enche is
Speaker 1: always one of the big because I told you there
Speaker 1: was a restaurant he goes to call the Monkey Bar,
Speaker 1: which Nicholson on the piece of and some other actors.
Speaker 1: Always great, great food, great bar. And uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean i'd see you there with Michael Bolton with the
Speaker 1: big director what's his name, god, the big director, Michael something,
Speaker 1: Michael Bay. She was trying to land a big fish.
Speaker 1: Then she got a football player. Okay, that's a good,
Speaker 1: good area to land. You got some money there. He's
Speaker 1: a good successful football player, Tony Gonzalez, great tight end. Okay.
Speaker 1: And then what you get rid of him? For Patrick Whitesell,
Speaker 1: who was became the biggest agent at William Morris then
Speaker 1: was involved in the sale of that and it's William
Speaker 1: Morris and they got much bigger William Morris and Devor
Speaker 1: Patrick's a huge guy in that particular business. Was it
Speaker 1: enough left him for Jeff Bezos. Bezos has to know
Speaker 1: she's not leaving him for anybody. Clearly, the girl's chasing
Speaker 1: money in power. You can't really get more powerful and
Speaker 1: more money than Jeff Bezos unless she goes some slimy
Speaker 1: Saudi prince for I don't think she wants that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they're talking about it now, about her her love of
Speaker 1: older men. Who told you about it first? Me? That's
Speaker 1: who I said it first, because that's who I knew
Speaker 1: the girl to be. There's no shame in it. If
Speaker 1: that's your end game. You want to guy with money, okay,
Speaker 1: then just you know, let's admit it when it becomes
Speaker 1: the story. And now it's the story. Let's see how sheually.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you'll say about it, but that's look,
Speaker 1: that's that's I call that. The guy cutting himself shits felt.
Speaker 1: And what that girl did at the at the bars
Speaker 1: and restaurants in LA before she land him with Bezos,
Speaker 1: that is Hollywood. That's big time Hollywood. Everybody's looking at
Speaker 1: the grass being greener with the other guy, the new guy,
Speaker 1: the new boyfriend, new husband. It's like they don't even care.
Speaker 1: I don't know these new relationships get play in the press.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that shit. If I was in Hollywood
Speaker 1: and just got divorced, et cetera, I wouldn't want that.
Speaker 1: Like right away, you know this girl who's gonna marry
Speaker 1: the Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott gets labeled somebody that she
Speaker 1: just wanted his money. She wouldn't sign the contract about
Speaker 1: the divorce. He wanted to keep a certain amount of money.
Speaker 1: She wouldn't sign the paperwork. No, he's a serial cheater.
Speaker 1: He's an NFL stud making over two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: Of course he's cheating. Of course he if men, if
Speaker 1: electricians cheated, make ninety thousand a year, you tak a
Speaker 1: football player, it's not gonna cheat. We all know these
Speaker 1: guys cheat. She picked up on it. So now she
Speaker 1: got him in a does he stay able to If
Speaker 1: he does, he's gonna get more money out of let's
Speaker 1: settlement one day. That's what the game is out here.
Speaker 1: And not to notugh enough that you got all these
Speaker 1: girls that we can go down the list again. The
Speaker 1: answer Julina Jolie's The Gwyneth Powell shows Rosanna Arcats, Rose
Speaker 1: Mcallan's Girls that clearly wanted something from Harvey Weinstein while
Speaker 1: he was the big shot starmaking producer, and we're willing
Speaker 1: to go a certain amount with him in order to
Speaker 1: get that, to be in the big show, to be
Speaker 1: part of the crowd. I know it's not, you know,
Speaker 1: really nice to say that the guy's in jail. He's
Speaker 1: in Rikers, the worst place on earth, in a wheelchair,
Speaker 1: very ill with cancer. He's having a hell of a
Speaker 1: time in there. I know no one wants to pull
Speaker 1: the violins out and play for him, but I mean
Speaker 1: to still be at Riker's after all this time. My god,
Speaker 1: right is they want to shut Ripers down? It's so uh,
Speaker 1: it's just the worst place on earth. But I remember
Speaker 1: a few years ago a lot of big stars were,
Speaker 1: you know, pushing for Rikers to be shut down. But
Speaker 1: it remains open. Hobby was talking about he did an
Speaker 1: interview on the phone with a guy named Maya Rashaan
Speaker 1: can't stand him, Mike. He really is juwey ju Juju
Speaker 1: used to be a little prick at New York Magazine,
Speaker 1: but he rows up the ranks and you know he
Speaker 1: is who he is now twenty five years later, What
Speaker 1: have you and that's who Hobvey called, or they set
Speaker 1: it up, and Hobby says he's been beaten up. You know.
Speaker 1: He'll go out to make a phone call and somebody
Speaker 1: was on the phone too long and Harvey said he
Speaker 1: almost done. The guy punched him in the face, left
Speaker 1: him on the ground. He's bleeding. People have come to
Speaker 1: him for his money, you know, can get can you
Speaker 1: help my defense fund? Can you help me get a lawyer.
Speaker 1: He stays in his cell twenty three hours because he's
Speaker 1: afraid to go out. Not trying, like I said, not
Speaker 1: trying to make you play the violins, but he is
Speaker 1: miserab there. And when you're his age, you know, you
Speaker 1: don't want to have fistfights with young guys who have
Speaker 1: lived like crazy baskets for years. This is like their third, fourth,
Speaker 1: fifth stint in jail. They know exactly what the rules are.
Speaker 1: They know who to shake down, who to beat up,
Speaker 1: and you can't tell any of the guards of the
Speaker 1: ward and who punched you. You got to keep that quiet.
Speaker 1: That's tough. That's a tough way to live, man. So
Speaker 1: he's in the cell like twenty three hours a day.
Speaker 1: He had to sit down with the Hollywood reporter, and
Speaker 1: Uh admitted that if he was in general population, he
Speaker 1: would not last long. And he talked about some of
Speaker 1: the shit that happened, being left on a floor, bleeding,
Speaker 1: hurt badly. The cops asked me, who did it. I
Speaker 1: couldn't say. You can't be a rat. That's the law
Speaker 1: of the jungle. And you know, he calls rikers hell.
Speaker 1: Now he's sitting there waiting for a third trial. He's
Speaker 1: waiting for a retrial for the third time on charges
Speaker 1: of raping this biring actress inside a hotel in New York.
Speaker 1: But sometimes I'll go outside and those wheelchair to get
Speaker 1: some air. But that's like for a half hour. So
Speaker 1: the guy's just stuck in a cell. He used to
Speaker 1: go out with other inmates in the yard, but then
Speaker 1: he got incessantly nagged, he said, felt like he was
Speaker 1: under siege. So it's too dangerous for him to be
Speaker 1: around anyone else. He just sits in the cell and
Speaker 1: reads reads. He's very ill. He's got a bunch of melodies.
Speaker 1: He's got chronic Myalloyd leukemia, spinal stenosis, which is why
Speaker 1: he's in the wheelchair. It's terrible people. But Rashaan asked
Speaker 1: him if he's worried about dying in prison. Harvey, he said,
Speaker 1: it scares the shit out of me. It's cold, it's heartless.
Speaker 1: It's incredible to have the life that I had and
Speaker 1: the things that I did for society and not have
Speaker 1: the leans he to deal with me in a kinder way.
Speaker 1: Whatever they think I did bad in my life, I
Speaker 1: didn't get the death penalty, which is even more painful,
Speaker 1: I believe. He talked about the fact that he doesn't
Speaker 1: speak to two of his daughters, and he's tried to
Speaker 1: connect with them many times. They don't respond. Their mother
Speaker 1: cut them off radio silence. One wants to prove his innocence.
Speaker 1: Thinks he can win his family back over. I doubt it.
Speaker 1: He does speak to three of his kids every day.
Speaker 1: His oldest daughter is now thirty, and the two kids
Speaker 1: he had with Georgina Chapman, the model, twelve years old
Speaker 1: and fifteen years old. Those two he talks to. And
Speaker 1: he's got three daughters with his first wife, Eve, who
Speaker 1: let's face it, I'm the guy who found out he
Speaker 1: was cheating on Eve with Georgina, and that's why I
Speaker 1: went to him, because I just bought him. I just
Speaker 1: paid for a painting for him to have. I felt
Speaker 1: like he wasn't being treated right and I was out
Speaker 1: of the gossip game. I was in La, so I
Speaker 1: had a painting done for him that said Harveywood instead
Speaker 1: of Hollywood. And I went to pick it up and
Speaker 1: the girl and the encounter asked me, who is this form?
Speaker 1: I said, Oh, it's my buddy. He's a producer in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein's getting the ship under the stick. I just
Speaker 1: figured that light in his mood. Really because my girlfriend
Speaker 1: is dating him? I said, your girlfriend's dating him? Where's
Speaker 1: your girlfriend? Who is she? Oh? She lives in England,
Speaker 1: but whenever he's in London they go out all the time.
Speaker 1: They stay together. I'm going, holy shit, this guy's married
Speaker 1: to Eve with three kids. I got the story of
Speaker 1: the year. I call them right away, Harvey, AJ, what's up?
Speaker 1: What does some girls selling art in West Hollywood know?
Speaker 1: You're cheating on your wife with some girl in England.
Speaker 1: It's bullshit. I'm not It's a lie. Next story, all right?
Speaker 1: He calls back in ten minutes. Okay, it's true. What
Speaker 1: do we do. I'm not I'm leaving my wife for
Speaker 1: I'm gonna separate. I'm gonna le I'm gonna marry this girl.
Speaker 1: A ja. We got to do this, right, I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that's what I offer to which a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't understand. I said, your public relations team
Speaker 1: is going to get a lot of calls if this
Speaker 1: story about this relationship gets out, and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to barter with these writers. And the only way to
Speaker 1: bother is to give them something of equal value. So
Speaker 1: you got to supply them with shit. And what I said,
Speaker 1: I can do that, I can get I still know
Speaker 1: who to call and how to get big stories. I
Speaker 1: can supply your team with gossip every day. If anybody
Speaker 1: should call and want the Harvey hazard a fair story.
Speaker 1: You brought it with them. That sounds great. Pay me
Speaker 1: a lot of money ten grand a month to do that,
Speaker 1: and I kept it, actually kept it for ten months.
Speaker 1: No one found out. He said, I think I'm in
Speaker 1: the clear. Can we can I stop paying al and
Speaker 1: I jokingly said, no, fuck, you give me twenty more
Speaker 1: thousand as a joke. So he stopped at eighty grand.
Speaker 1: But we kept that under wrapped, and then he did
Speaker 1: leave his wife for her, but it was also in
Speaker 1: the middle of the big Disney announcement that they were
Speaker 1: going to hunk up with mirror masks. He was being
Speaker 1: looked at really hard. But there were girls back then
Speaker 1: who wanted to be big time in the movies. They
Speaker 1: wanted their Oscar nominations, they wanted everything. Those other girls
Speaker 1: got some of them. It worked out, Jennifer Lawrence perhaps.
Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow probably, even though he says that story of
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt going to him, going to Harvey and telling him,
Speaker 1: don't ever flirt with my girlfriend again, because Harvey after
Speaker 1: they signed contracts for a movie, Harvey said how about
Speaker 1: a massage? And Gwinny said, I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable. And he said, okay, forget it. And
Speaker 1: Brad went to Harvey and said, don't do that again. Ever.
Speaker 1: That's my girl, all right, Brad. I get it. Was
Speaker 1: that story concocted. Maybe they already fucked. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But she got a lot of Oscar nominations back then
Speaker 1: and a win or two. She was on fire. Gwyneth Paltrow,
Speaker 1: everybody thank Harvey more than God. At the Oscars which
Speaker 1: are coming up this week, I gotta see this. Timothy
Speaker 1: Shallaman movie. I gotta see it. That's probably gonna be
Speaker 1: twenty bucks. Still, I'm gonna have to break down. I
Speaker 1: started watching a ham knet that actress is gonna win
Speaker 1: Best Actress without a doubt. Figured her name now, but
Speaker 1: she was really good. Anyhow, he's having a tough time
Speaker 1: and he's reading books. I'm gonna send him my book
Speaker 1: before you guys say you hate me. I feel like
Speaker 1: I have to write him a letter. I've been saying it.
Speaker 1: I talked to his publicist. I feel bad for the guy.
Speaker 1: I just do I know the way Hollywood works. I
Speaker 1: know we have overplayed his hand. I know he was
Speaker 1: probably pushy and seductive. I get it. But a lot
Speaker 1: of chicks I know how it works in his town.
Speaker 1: He even admits he shouldn't have gone out with the
Speaker 1: people he went out with. I was married to a
Speaker 1: fantastic woman. I had no idea what I was doing.
Speaker 1: I lied all the time. I used my staff to
Speaker 1: hide things, which he did. But I did not ever
Speaker 1: sexually assault a woman. I never did that. He is
Speaker 1: adamant about that, even though he was convicted of raping
Speaker 1: Jessica Man in the first trial back in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: and forcing oral sex on a former Project Runway PA
Speaker 1: Mimi Haley. That got overturned. Now the retrial, he was
Speaker 1: convinced convicted again on the Haley charge, which carries up
Speaker 1: twenty five years in prison. Jury couldn't agree on the
Speaker 1: man situation. It's a mess. If the third trial occurs,
Speaker 1: man would have to testify we do. This is back
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen at a Double Tree hotel. Not the
Speaker 1: kind of places Harvey stays at. Kind of weird. I
Speaker 1: wonder if Gavin Newsom's wife is among those people he
Speaker 1: corresponds with, you know what I mean. Jennifer Cybel Newsom
Speaker 1: admitted during the trial that she accused them of sexual assault,
Speaker 1: that the sexual encounter they had was consentual, transactional sex
Speaker 1: to advance her career. She said it right there. There
Speaker 1: were emails that the defense had that she sent to
Speaker 1: Weinstein after the two thousand and five situation. She testified
Speaker 1: that she was trying to play the game and maintain
Speaker 1: a professional relationship with a powerful figure to help her husband.
Speaker 1: Imagine fucking the guy that ski him for money for
Speaker 1: her husband's election his campaign. I mean, yeah, she did.
Speaker 1: Hobby might have even given it for all I know
Speaker 1: loves all Democrats. Last meeting we had was aj you
Speaker 1: got to get Trump, you know him the best, do
Speaker 1: the long play. I'm I'm not going to take this
Speaker 1: guy down, but yeah, he wanted me to. They all did.
Speaker 1: I mean Christ even ex guys that wrote with wanted me.
Speaker 1: You must have him on tape. Take them down. You're
Speaker 1: fucking kidding me. Take them down for the likes of who,
Speaker 1: for Biden, for Kamala Harris, Give me a break. I
Speaker 1: love everything that's going on, everything, but listen to me,
Speaker 1: and I tell you from being out here twenty seven
Speaker 1: twenty eight years. A good actor or a good actress,
Speaker 1: a good director, or a celebrity doesn't mean they're good
Speaker 1: people automatically. I hope you've learned that by now. Don't
Speaker 1: really look at celebrities and think that's a great person.
Speaker 1: They are paid to use the words written by people
Speaker 1: the likes of me. Writers, good writers. They have nothing
Speaker 1: to offer basically except fake emotions. Yeah, there are a
Speaker 1: few who could take your words and make them gold,
Speaker 1: but most of them need your words to sound at
Speaker 1: all interesting. I'll come across interesting. So again, that's don't
Speaker 1: let Hollywood pollute your mind because they're famous. They're full
Speaker 1: of shit. Speaking of full of shit, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: this story today. I can't believe this. I mean, I
Speaker 1: can't believe it. You know, shar is going to be
Speaker 1: eighty and she's with this ab Anthony Edwards, this rap producer.
Speaker 1: You know. I saw a picture of them too at
Speaker 1: Chastity's wedding. Chastity is marrying a woman, which is a
Speaker 1: whole different story. I don't even know where to go
Speaker 1: with this. I thought she was a lesbian many years ago,
Speaker 1: but then became a man and got a woman. I
Speaker 1: think it'll be easy for Chats to just stay gay.
Speaker 1: It's just because I don't know. I guess she has
Speaker 1: the surgery. I don't even to think about it. But anyhow,
Speaker 1: Share Chasley's fifty seven. By the way, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: time is flying. I don't know why she would throw
Speaker 1: a lot of surgery if she was gonna end up
Speaker 1: marrying no woman. Anyway, what's the point. She was such
Speaker 1: a cute little girl. Remember when she'd come out at
Speaker 1: the end of the show. At the end of Sunny
Speaker 1: and Share show, they would hold her up on Sunny's shoulders,
Speaker 1: and she said good night. Remember when we all ran
Speaker 1: in to watch the Sonny and Share a variety show.
Speaker 1: I remember, variety shows are dead. Back in the day,
Speaker 1: everybody had one Glenn Campbell, Perry Combo, John Denver, John
Speaker 1: Davidson's Dean Martin. It was all variety shows. If Share
Speaker 1: does marry again, because she didn't have a big ring
Speaker 1: on her left hand, on the ring for Big Diamond.
Speaker 1: If she does marry again, I wonder if Chas will
Speaker 1: be the best man. It's suddenly something we should consider, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, she is a man after all, you know
Speaker 1: how that works. By the way, this looks like a
Speaker 1: great book to dive into. Liza Minelli's memoirs just hit.
Speaker 1: They're called Kids Wait till you Hear This, which I
Speaker 1: love that title. But you read some of the excerpts.
Speaker 1: My god, the fact that her mother, Judy Garland, was
Speaker 1: jealous of Liza's talent at one point, I forget what
Speaker 1: I read. But the producer of some show brought Liza
Speaker 1: on stage as a surprise while her mother was singing,
Speaker 1: and Liza continued to sing the duet and Judy did
Speaker 1: what she did, and as soon as the song was over,
Speaker 1: she said to the prodict, don't ever bring another bitch
Speaker 1: on my set. It's her daughter. But she had to
Speaker 1: deal with the mother who was always high, either high
Speaker 1: and uppers or down on barbituates. I mean, Judy Garland
Speaker 1: was basically a wind up toy to the Hollywood studios.
Speaker 1: Not to mention how many. I mean just they gave
Speaker 1: her uppers to work, get up early, go to work,
Speaker 1: go to the studio, go to the lot. They gave
Speaker 1: her downers to slow down, and made sure she got
Speaker 1: some sleep. This went on for her whole career. You
Speaker 1: hear her at the end of her life trying to
Speaker 1: sing and she's losing her temper. It's it's just said, said, said, said.
Speaker 1: And I learned from the book that Liza had this
Speaker 1: long affair with Martin Scores. As you know. It's funny.
Speaker 1: When I met Harvey that day at the at the
Speaker 1: Hotel four Seasons, and we were talking about how I
Speaker 1: could help him, and there's this book, there's this story
Speaker 1: being written about me. It wasn't about rape. It was
Speaker 1: just a hit piece, that's all he said. I said, well,
Speaker 1: who do you think he's doing it? I need you
Speaker 1: to find out who's doing it. It could be near Magazte.
Speaker 1: It could be the Times. Can you snoop around? I go, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he was gonna pay me a lot of money.
Speaker 1: It wasn't about rape. He didn't know. It was a
Speaker 1: hit piece. That's all he hurt. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: And he mentioned it could be Marty. It could be
Speaker 1: the girl the Marty's with, and he's married to a
Speaker 1: woman that I think he has dementia or Parkinson's or something.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what do you mean. He said he
Speaker 1: got a woman pregnant not too long ago, and she
Speaker 1: could be a you know, she's not really a fan
Speaker 1: of mine. I had no he was giving me like
Speaker 1: such a big story. I've never said it until just now.
Speaker 1: But anyhow, Eliza was having an affair with Scuse as
Speaker 1: they got together because of their love of drugs, their
Speaker 1: love of cocaine in the seventies, marijuana, Kwai Lud's speed,
Speaker 1: that's all they did. It got to the point where,
Speaker 1: you know, the story goes that when he was making
Speaker 1: some of his movies before Raging Bull, he was in
Speaker 1: the hospital about to die and Robert de Niro had
Speaker 1: to really give my hard talk about how I was
Speaker 1: going to kill himself and he gets out of it.
Speaker 1: We got a direct. He's got a direct, raging bull.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to do that. He was really down
Speaker 1: on himself, and apparently de Niro had a lot to
Speaker 1: do with getting him on his feet. But he was
Speaker 1: famous for getting high. A taxi driver, airplanes coming back
Speaker 1: with film mechanics is filled with cocaine one time, a plane,
Speaker 1: private plane film. It just cocaine so he can finish
Speaker 1: editing a movie. I mean, he was. If you look
Speaker 1: at his movies, you can see this that they smash
Speaker 1: cuts some of the fight scenes. The beatings guy was high.
Speaker 1: And I know that people will take drugs before they
Speaker 1: do something creative. Tend to think that's what made me creative.
Speaker 1: I had a lot of those thoughts too. It's not true.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you people say marijuana gets you
Speaker 1: more creative. I maybe, but if you're smoking a for years,
Speaker 1: that's all you're relying on. You're not relying on your
Speaker 1: mind to make you have these ideas. You're not giving
Speaker 1: your mind a shot. You're opening it up to some
Speaker 1: drug and then another drug. We want to think, but no,
Speaker 1: I remember vividly riding so much at night, high on coke,
Speaker 1: and the next day looking at it, going oh god,
Speaker 1: this is all horrible, losing five to six pages. That
Speaker 1: sounded so great that night before, but in the morning
Speaker 1: it's fucking awful. Get rid of it and show anybody.
Speaker 1: So a lot of times that happens more than spitting
Speaker 1: out words and going, oh my god, it's brilliant. Some
Speaker 1: things have been written and performed, whether the guy's fucked up.
Speaker 1: Of course, not all of it though, but either way.
Speaker 1: One day she says she's on the street with her
Speaker 1: husband Jack Well Jack Haley, right, his father played the
Speaker 1: tin man in The Wizard of Oz, which is kind
Speaker 1: of funny. Opposite her mother. Scorsese's walking down the street
Speaker 1: and he sees Eliza and her husband, and he begins
Speaker 1: to rip her a new ass because she apparently had
Speaker 1: an affair with the ballet star Mikhail Barishtakov. What she
Speaker 1: coped to. But he's doing this in front of her husband.
Speaker 1: How could you do this to me? Like, imagine being
Speaker 1: the husband. Who do you get mad at? Scorsese? Eliza Barishtakov,
Speaker 1: she's fucking around unless he was gay like petere Lland
Speaker 1: was gay and other guys she dated were gay. But
Speaker 1: he still hasn't spoken to her. She says sometime in
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen or so, they met at some award show
Speaker 1: and she said hi, he turned around and walked away.
Speaker 1: So here's my Liza's story. I do have a life story,
Speaker 1: which I feel very lucky about because you know, she's
Speaker 1: a big fucking star and uh hey, it pays to
Speaker 1: be around some of these people. So the story that
Speaker 1: I have is first I got to start with. I
Speaker 1: just saw a documentary I think on Netflix or maybe
Speaker 1: Amazon about the old Horn and Hard Art hr Dart
Speaker 1: Horn and Hard Art. The Automat in New York City,
Speaker 1: there was a few of them. The automat was where
Speaker 1: you went, but we had one right next to the
Speaker 1: Daily News. Daily News was two twenty East forty second Street.
Speaker 1: Automat was two hundred East forty second. Tree was right there.
Speaker 1: I passed it a bunch of times. I remember hearing
Speaker 1: about it my grand Mary, my grandparents, my mother. If
Speaker 1: everybody went to the automat, because all the food was
Speaker 1: behind a piece of glass, and you put I think
Speaker 1: a nickel it back in the day, opened the glass door.
Speaker 1: There's your piece of pie, there's your mass potatoes and gravy,
Speaker 1: whatever you want it. And everybody took it to a
Speaker 1: table at eight and there was no waiters and wakess.
Speaker 1: You just put money in the machine. It was like,
Speaker 1: people love the automat and it was an honor to
Speaker 1: work well, it was an honor to work in that building.
Speaker 1: The New York Daily News building is an institution. It's
Speaker 1: where they filmed Superman, the TV show that was the
Speaker 1: Daily Planet. Inside that lobby is a great big planet
Speaker 1: Earth that spins and and on the floor all these
Speaker 1: mileage amounts of where how far it is to go
Speaker 1: to Malaysia, to go to you know, Tunisia, to go
Speaker 1: to Milan as you walk, but that big globe, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing to see in a lobby. I
Speaker 1: always loved going in there, and I loved having the
Speaker 1: automat right next door. And you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: just throw some coins in the slot, take out your
Speaker 1: comfort food, and it just was. It was a great
Speaker 1: thing that that lasted past the good old days. Put
Speaker 1: it that way. So one night, when I was dating
Speaker 1: downtown Julie Brown, it's hard. It was hard not to
Speaker 1: be seen when you're with Julie Julie never dated or
Speaker 1: data dressed on the down low. She would come out
Speaker 1: with big elephant bell bottom, you know, polka dot jeans
Speaker 1: that a halt the top, some crazy hat. It was
Speaker 1: never like she want love being seen and everybody would
Speaker 1: shout downtown, you know, downtown to the ground. They'd shout wubbahobhahobba,
Speaker 1: which was her sign off on the on the on
Speaker 1: the MTV show, well MTV and the Gossip Show. That
Speaker 1: was the thing. So it was hard to not be
Speaker 1: seen with her. So she's had platform boots are just
Speaker 1: crazy shit and she was just she was a moving
Speaker 1: feast of sexuality and funny. She was so funny. And
Speaker 1: I reminded her of her ex boyfriend because she said,
Speaker 1: one of the most romantic things you ever did was
Speaker 1: he went out one he wasn't supposed to go out,
Speaker 1: and she came to the door really pissed off of him.
Speaker 1: And she said, he picked me up and put me
Speaker 1: in the washing machine and said, I can close the
Speaker 1: door and walk away where you can walk out of this.
Speaker 1: Never say a fucking word about it again. And they
Speaker 1: both thoughted laughing, but they got a long gress that
Speaker 1: runds you with me, Well, you know you got a
Speaker 1: tough call. You know you say what you mean? I
Speaker 1: mean you say when she saw me have a fight
Speaker 1: the first time we met. So anyhow, we would call
Speaker 1: each other a lot when I was the first, when
Speaker 1: I was first at the Daily News, she and I.
Speaker 1: She was my first friend, my first girlfriend, and so
Speaker 1: to speak that I told my family I'm going to
Speaker 1: be with her. They all laughed at me. I said,
Speaker 1: I'm you're married. I don't care, it's gonna something all divorce.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna And all these things came true, So people
Speaker 1: in my family and my friends began to believe me
Speaker 1: when I'd say the impossible, I want to be friends
Speaker 1: with Mickey Up, I'm sure you will. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: I'm gonna work for the Daily News. Everything I said
Speaker 1: came true. Nobody doubted me. So she'd make these phone
Speaker 1: calls to me at work at the Daily News, and
Speaker 1: she called me Ben's that I Ben to man. It
Speaker 1: was always Bens a man. And I know it's hard
Speaker 1: to believe, but back then, I didn't shave at the
Speaker 1: five o'clock shadow. I wore blue sunglasses, and I did
Speaker 1: for a smission of time resemble George Michael in his
Speaker 1: Mission of Time. Not that we look alike, but it
Speaker 1: was sudden about their hair to close the glasses and
Speaker 1: the stubble whatever. So she faxed me pictures and faxed
Speaker 1: me that's how long ago, fax me pictures of George
Speaker 1: Michael and read Benzaman. So it was we were very flirty,
Speaker 1: with so much fun. And I called her Clicker because
Speaker 1: every time we're on the phone, she'd have coll waiting
Speaker 1: and it was always somebody calling her while she was
Speaker 1: on a phone me. So I called her Clicker. And
Speaker 1: not until months later when I began to go to
Speaker 1: her apartment and stuff. These calls were coming from Mick Jagger,
Speaker 1: from Michael Irvin and the Dallas Cowboys. Because I remember
Speaker 1: Julie used to do the field pieces for NFL every Sunday.
Speaker 1: She had to be a stars trying to hook her.
Speaker 1: Even the Giant's greatest player, Lawrence Taylor, was after her.
Speaker 1: Anthony Mason on the Knicks, big Boys, big men were
Speaker 1: calling her. So many others I can't remember, but we
Speaker 1: began to date secretly, and one night we're at the
Speaker 1: sum spot in Alphabet City, downtown east Side. It was
Speaker 1: called Flamingo East, drag queens as waitresses, tending bar, very like,
Speaker 1: you know, a real New York kind of scene. When
Speaker 1: drag queens didn't bother me at all. I don't know
Speaker 1: what they do now, but back then they were just
Speaker 1: part of their scene. And one night we're trying to
Speaker 1: eat in the back, trying to hide because Julie was
Speaker 1: technically still dating her boyfriend who owned restaurants downtown. He
Speaker 1: was very popular. Charles I forget his last name, owned
Speaker 1: the coffee shop, owned I think the Iguana. He was
Speaker 1: big time. I don't know it. Comes Liza Minelli and
Speaker 1: her friend Billy Stretch, just a gay guy she always
Speaker 1: walks around to. He's a jazz penis the singer. He's
Speaker 1: been a close friend and music director for over twenty
Speaker 1: five years, right, maybe longer, always in the cabaret scene.
Speaker 1: And like I said, gay as the day is long.
Speaker 1: And they seat them next to us, and almost immediately
Speaker 1: Liza recognized that, and then suddenly we're all They pull
Speaker 1: our tables together and now we're all dining together. Dinner
Speaker 1: is over. It's like two o'clock in the morning. We're
Speaker 1: about to get a care come take come, get to
Speaker 1: my car on my town call with Billy. Now we're
Speaker 1: in a town called her and Billy. Where do we go? Now,
Speaker 1: what's next? And Julie's like, he's a gossipt now he
Speaker 1: should know. I said, you know, it's two o'clock, there's
Speaker 1: some class. Well what we I'm actually I'm hungry. We
Speaker 1: just ate and Liza's hungry again, and she goes, let's
Speaker 1: go to the automat. I'm like, you know what, that
Speaker 1: could be kind of cool. We go to the automat.
Speaker 1: I'd never been there. I act like I was dare before,
Speaker 1: but I'd never been there. And it was fun picking
Speaker 1: out food behind a glass window. Cheap food and good.
Speaker 1: It didn't close the nickel. I forget the price, but
Speaker 1: it was suddenly worth it. It was cool. It turns
Speaker 1: out that was the last automat to survive, and it
Speaker 1: closed at the end of nineteen ninety one, So that
Speaker 1: was the year I was there with Julie and Liza,
Speaker 1: and like a few weeks after we were there it
Speaker 1: closed down. And now her driver drops off Billy first,
Speaker 1: then Julie. They kind of lived near each other, so
Speaker 1: at the end it's me and Liijah together in the car.
Speaker 1: And all I could think about was how many times
Speaker 1: my father told me to see Cabaret and New York,
Speaker 1: New York with Robert de Niro, which I love. But
Speaker 1: Cabaret was so big that summer of seventy four. I
Speaker 1: wrote about it in my book. It's a crucial moment
Speaker 1: in my book, the fact that that movie was so popular.
Speaker 1: And he dressed up my cousin as if he were
Speaker 1: lies of Manila. Even did it to Jackie, but he
Speaker 1: was I'm two years old. We put a little dress
Speaker 1: on him and makeup and a black wig, and jack
Speaker 1: came in and said, get that was fucking close off
Speaker 1: my son. He wouldn't have it. But we did it
Speaker 1: to my cousin Gino, and he knew the words the Cabaret.
Speaker 1: It was a big thing in our house. So being
Speaker 1: with her was everything to me. And my back back
Speaker 1: then was really bad. This is right before, right after
Speaker 1: my first operation, which didn't work, and I'm popping perkose
Speaker 1: that's like pez and I finally go in my pocket.
Speaker 1: I always came out with four and a couple of
Speaker 1: muscle relaxses. I'm my good, I'll go to bed soon.
Speaker 1: I popped two percocets and a muscler. I think it
Speaker 1: was a fearin all back then. Oh what a combination.
Speaker 1: And Lja saw me do it, and she's like, what
Speaker 1: nothing for me? Just as if she was in a movie.
Speaker 1: It was like it was a line written for in
Speaker 1: a script with that Liza face, those lies of lips,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? The beauty mark I go no.
Speaker 1: I gave her two paint pills and she was so happy.
Speaker 1: And those times were very weird because I basically had
Speaker 1: her dead to rights to answer any questions I could
Speaker 1: have asked her. Would have been a great column. But
Speaker 1: as it happened more and more in my career, especially
Speaker 1: with what's his Name's parents who were killed along with
Speaker 1: OJS Nicole Brown and Ronald Goeman's parents, I had them
Speaker 1: cornered out a play and the publicists put our seats
Speaker 1: right behind the airs. I just couldn't pull the trigger.
Speaker 1: They'd been through enough shit. I don't need a column
Speaker 1: to ask parents that are grieving with how they feel.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't do it. And that's something they said,
Speaker 1: good good, you got a heart. Don't do it, and
Speaker 1: we walked out of the theater. But what a thing
Speaker 1: to be next to Eliza and not say, hey, can
Speaker 1: I interview you for a story. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: do it. I just wanted her to be comfortable and
Speaker 1: have a nice day and nice night. And it would
Speaker 1: have been a great story because not many journalists have
Speaker 1: spent the night with Liza. But I said to her,
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I just liked the fact that
Speaker 1: I got to hang out with you and we had
Speaker 1: fun considering how much I love Cabaret and how much
Speaker 1: it means to my family, and I told her a story.
Speaker 1: We laughed and laughed, and it was such a normal
Speaker 1: kind of a ride. I didn't want to spoil it
Speaker 1: by peppering up with questions because they all know how
Speaker 1: to answer questions when they come from a gossip. She's
Speaker 1: a pro not gonna get shit, and she was genuinely
Speaker 1: happy that I decided to be that way. Maybe she
Speaker 1: wouldn't like this show, but hey, you know, it's been
Speaker 1: a long time. I mean, at some point a man's
Speaker 1: gotta talk twenty some odred years, twenty five years, whatever
Speaker 1: the hell it is. But I love that I got
Speaker 1: a chance to spend the night with such a big star.
Speaker 1: And I could see it in her eyes and her
Speaker 1: how her body relaxed, and I think the gesture was
Speaker 1: really appreciate it, and I'm happy about that because it's uh,
Speaker 1: obviously it's never happened again. I've never been in her
Speaker 1: company again, although I do remember hearing a great story
Speaker 1: from Scott Baio who uh oh. I think he was
Speaker 1: on a he was in a play or something. He
Speaker 1: was on stage somewhere and Liza Mellie was up front
Speaker 1: and she's given him the eye, like winking at him
Speaker 1: while he's performing or whatever he was doing. I forget,
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm so it might have been. It
Speaker 1: might be not. I think it was John Stables not.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I get my boys confused. It was John Stainles.
Speaker 1: He was performing somewhere, Eliza was sitting up front. A
Speaker 1: couple of winks, blah blah blah. He goes back to
Speaker 1: his dressing room and somebody says, Liza and Nelly went
Speaker 1: to come in. Oh, okay, Sure, she comes in and
Speaker 1: she begins to sing for him, like she's giving him
Speaker 1: a special concert. She just breaks out of the song
Speaker 1: and then like another song, and he's sitting on the
Speaker 1: couch and she's doing her Liza thing, Eliza with the
Speaker 1: Z kind of thing, and I said, what did you do?
Speaker 1: I fucked her. I couldn't believe. I'm like you did,
Speaker 1: He goes, I had to How do you how do
Speaker 1: you get that to end? You just throw it down
Speaker 1: at you know, that's how it ends. I could have
Speaker 1: done that. I don't know what I would have done.
Speaker 1: That would be a horrifying experience to go through to
Speaker 1: see Eliza Manelli probably in her fifties now that're in
Speaker 1: my sixties. Fifties sound young, but still it's Liza slop. Eliza,
Speaker 1: you're gonna throw that down on the couch. I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. That's why stay most is the king.
Speaker 1: It's got the most stories. If you have a podcast,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the shit you'd hear. But he'll never
Speaker 1: do it. He's too much of a good man. Me
Speaker 1: I kiss him, tell, but no kiss him with Liza.
Speaker 1: That's it for today. Gang on aj Benz And that
Speaker 1: was your daily Unfiltered podcast from March eleventh, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: We'll talk again tomorrow