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<v Speaker 1>From Workhouse Connect and aj Benze fame. Uh, he'd liked

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<v Speaker 1>to be walked on a leash and play really dirty,

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<v Speaker 1>kinky sex games. He is the guy put the cock

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<v Speaker 1>in the peacock network. Okay, bitch, hey, everybody, aj Benzi

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<v Speaker 1>here with fames a bitch. This is your daily Unfiltered

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<v Speaker 1>podcast from March eleven, twenty twenty six three one two

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<v Speaker 1>two six midweek hump Day? Hump Day in March? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything worse? Tomorrow will be a week that this

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<v Speaker 1>lady destroyed the door of my car? Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>I have any answer chet for these fucking insurance companies?

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Her insurance company, Geico, actually said to me, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're having a problem. What's the problem. We don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she ever ensured this car under this policy. She had

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<v Speaker 1>a policy for the all the other car. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if she just bought this car. So maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the mail, Maybe that we need to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the the sales sheet. Whatever. Wait a minute, why is

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<v Speaker 1>this an issue? If she didn't have this on her insurance,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are gonna pay this. She's gonna pay a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of money. Well, that's how they're waiting to hear Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>how long is it gonna take days? It could be weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not riding around in ubers for weeks. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. Let's get this on the road. I call

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<v Speaker 1>my insurance company. I keep getting the adjuster. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>really be conduments to Benzo until we get the information.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear nobody wants to work anymore. Do these people

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<v Speaker 1>get Goeta? They probably don't a little taste of the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money that maybe they are gonna give us

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<v Speaker 1>to fix the car. Do they get a little taste?

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<v Speaker 1>If they did, I would understand why they work hard.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they're just sitting around on have fat asses,

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<v Speaker 1>fielding calls and waiting for people to call them. I

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<v Speaker 1>have to find all this out. I have to make

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<v Speaker 1>these calls. They should be calling me unbelievable, ube believable.

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<v Speaker 1>But nothing is uh, nothing makes sense in shitsville I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reading today. I mean, you know you can't make it up.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy was found dead after he cut off his

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<v Speaker 1>own penis on a downtown Los Angeles street. They were

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<v Speaker 1>identify the guy as Ryan Sutherland, thirty one years old,

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<v Speaker 1>died from sharp force injuries. Police found himself mutilating near

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<v Speaker 1>the intersection of Figueroa and Pico. You don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be anywhere near those streets, especially downtown. Stethel has ruled

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<v Speaker 1>the suicide. He was right by the convention center. Also

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<v Speaker 1>slashed his own throat just for good measure, then also

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<v Speaker 1>stabbed himself and tried to no avail to cut off

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<v Speaker 1>his own arm. Clearly, this man doesn't like living in Shitsville,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like his life right now. Imagine if if he

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<v Speaker 1>had a car and the door was ripped off it

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<v Speaker 1>by a un a motorists. I think he wouldn't quite

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<v Speaker 1>as bad as he does now, but it would certainly

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<v Speaker 1>add to his knife skills. Somebody said he took off

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<v Speaker 1>all his clothes as he was walking towardy seven to eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a step up because sometimes they show up in

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<v Speaker 1>the seven eleven naked. So the fact that he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make it in and collapsed pete. Police don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>motivation for hur to. He's fucking nuts. He belongs to

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<v Speaker 1>the mental hospital, which we have none of. Police don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They know. Another day in Shitsfield guy, But don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>He can still vote. I'm sure he can still vote.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need ID somebody will votes Ryan Sutherland for

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<v Speaker 1>every fucking Democrat it's around for the next ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch remember the name Ryan Sutherland. I'm also there was

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<v Speaker 1>a story today that I got a comment on you

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<v Speaker 1>know what's his Name's wife, Lauren Sanchez, the wife of

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon's owner, the multi multi billionaire. They're trying to say

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<v Speaker 1>that years ago she was trying to get with men

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<v Speaker 1>that had, you know, a big, big career, a big personality,

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<v Speaker 1>which I completely know because I've told you that when

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<v Speaker 1>I was going out in the nineties in la Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>Sanchez was always sexy, always hot, always out. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>her on TV in the mornings, always looking for a

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<v Speaker 1>guy with money. This article says she was obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton back in ninety six, just found him enchanting,

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't stop staring at him, and people her friends began

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<v Speaker 1>to call her Monica because this was after the of

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<v Speaker 1>the Dallians, the Trump Trump that Clinton had with Monica Olinsky, who,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, looks really good all these years later.

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<v Speaker 1>Monica's really good. I mean really good. I think she's

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<v Speaker 1>like fucking pretty, I do, I don't know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how to drink of them one night quickly at a

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<v Speaker 1>bar just shot the ship for a minute. She was

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<v Speaker 1>nice for a couple of long and uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's come out of this thing with flying colors. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe he looks she looks good, doesn't seem bitter. Her

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<v Speaker 1>life didn't get didn't get derailed. But Lawrence Enche is

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<v Speaker 1>always one of the big because I told you there

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<v Speaker 1>was a restaurant he goes to call the Monkey Bar,

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<v Speaker 1>which Nicholson on the piece of and some other actors.

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<v Speaker 1>Always great, great food, great bar. And uh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean i'd see you there with Michael Bolton with the

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<v Speaker 1>big director what's his name, god, the big director, Michael something,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Bay. She was trying to land a big fish.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she got a football player. Okay, that's a good,

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<v Speaker 1>good area to land. You got some money there. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a good successful football player, Tony Gonzalez, great tight end. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what you get rid of him? For Patrick Whitesell,

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<v Speaker 1>who was became the biggest agent at William Morris then

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<v Speaker 1>was involved in the sale of that and it's William

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<v Speaker 1>Morris and they got much bigger William Morris and Devor

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick's a huge guy in that particular business. Was it

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<v Speaker 1>enough left him for Jeff Bezos. Bezos has to know

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<v Speaker 1>she's not leaving him for anybody. Clearly, the girl's chasing

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<v Speaker 1>money in power. You can't really get more powerful and

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<v Speaker 1>more money than Jeff Bezos unless she goes some slimy

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi prince for I don't think she wants that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking about it now, about her her love of

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<v Speaker 1>older men. Who told you about it first? Me? That's

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<v Speaker 1>who I said it first, because that's who I knew

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<v Speaker 1>the girl to be. There's no shame in it. If

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<v Speaker 1>that's your end game. You want to guy with money, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>then just you know, let's admit it when it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>the story. And now it's the story. Let's see how sheually.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you'll say about it, but that's look,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's I call that. The guy cutting himself shits felt.

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<v Speaker 1>And what that girl did at the at the bars

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<v Speaker 1>and restaurants in LA before she land him with Bezos,

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<v Speaker 1>that is Hollywood. That's big time Hollywood. Everybody's looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the grass being greener with the other guy, the new guy,

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<v Speaker 1>the new boyfriend, new husband. It's like they don't even care.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know these new relationships get play in the press.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want that shit. If I was in Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>and just got divorced, et cetera, I wouldn't want that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like right away, you know this girl who's gonna marry

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott gets labeled somebody that she

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted his money. She wouldn't sign the contract about

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<v Speaker 1>the divorce. He wanted to keep a certain amount of money.

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<v Speaker 1>She wouldn't sign the paperwork. No, he's a serial cheater.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an NFL stud making over two hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course he's cheating. Of course he if men, if

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<v Speaker 1>electricians cheated, make ninety thousand a year, you tak a

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<v Speaker 1>football player, it's not gonna cheat. We all know these

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<v Speaker 1>guys cheat. She picked up on it. So now she

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<v Speaker 1>got him in a does he stay able to If

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<v Speaker 1>he does, he's gonna get more money out of let's

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<v Speaker 1>settlement one day. That's what the game is out here.

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<v Speaker 1>And not to notugh enough that you got all these

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<v Speaker 1>girls that we can go down the list again. The

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<v Speaker 1>answer Julina Jolie's The Gwyneth Powell shows Rosanna Arcats, Rose

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<v Speaker 1>Mcallan's Girls that clearly wanted something from Harvey Weinstein while

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<v Speaker 1>he was the big shot starmaking producer, and we're willing

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<v Speaker 1>to go a certain amount with him in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get that, to be in the big show, to be

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<v Speaker 1>part of the crowd. I know it's not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really nice to say that the guy's in jail. He's

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<v Speaker 1>in Rikers, the worst place on earth, in a wheelchair,

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<v Speaker 1>very ill with cancer. He's having a hell of a

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<v Speaker 1>time in there. I know no one wants to pull

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<v Speaker 1>the violins out and play for him, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>to still be at Riker's after all this time. My god,

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<v Speaker 1>right is they want to shut Ripers down? It's so uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the worst place on earth. But I remember

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<v Speaker 1>a few years ago a lot of big stars were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pushing for Rikers to be shut down. But

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<v Speaker 1>it remains open. Hobby was talking about he did an

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<v Speaker 1>interview on the phone with a guy named Maya Rashaan

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<v Speaker 1>can't stand him, Mike. He really is juwey ju Juju

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<v Speaker 1>used to be a little prick at New York Magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>but he rows up the ranks and you know he

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<v Speaker 1>is who he is now twenty five years later, What

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<v Speaker 1>have you and that's who Hobvey called, or they set

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<v Speaker 1>it up, and Hobby says he's been beaten up. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll go out to make a phone call and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>was on the phone too long and Harvey said he

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<v Speaker 1>almost done. The guy punched him in the face, left

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<v Speaker 1>him on the ground. He's bleeding. People have come to

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<v Speaker 1>him for his money, you know, can get can you

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<v Speaker 1>help my defense fund? Can you help me get a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>He stays in his cell twenty three hours because he's

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to go out. Not trying, like I said, not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make you play the violins, but he is

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<v Speaker 1>miserab there. And when you're his age, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to have fistfights with young guys who have

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<v Speaker 1>lived like crazy baskets for years. This is like their third, fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>fifth stint in jail. They know exactly what the rules are.

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<v Speaker 1>They know who to shake down, who to beat up,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't tell any of the guards of the

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<v Speaker 1>ward and who punched you. You got to keep that quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's tough. That's a tough way to live, man. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's in the cell like twenty three hours a day.

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<v Speaker 1>He had to sit down with the Hollywood reporter, and

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<v Speaker 1>Uh admitted that if he was in general population, he

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<v Speaker 1>would not last long. And he talked about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the shit that happened, being left on a floor, bleeding,

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<v Speaker 1>hurt badly. The cops asked me, who did it. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't say. You can't be a rat. That's the law

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<v Speaker 1>of the jungle. And you know, he calls rikers hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's sitting there waiting for a third trial. He's

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for a retrial for the third time on charges

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<v Speaker 1>of raping this biring actress inside a hotel in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes I'll go outside and those wheelchair to get

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<v Speaker 1>some air. But that's like for a half hour. So

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<v Speaker 1>the guy's just stuck in a cell. He used to

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<v Speaker 1>go out with other inmates in the yard, but then

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<v Speaker 1>he got incessantly nagged, he said, felt like he was

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<v Speaker 1>under siege. So it's too dangerous for him to be

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<v Speaker 1>around anyone else. He just sits in the cell and

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<v Speaker 1>reads reads. He's very ill. He's got a bunch of melodies.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got chronic Myalloyd leukemia, spinal stenosis, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>he's in the wheelchair. It's terrible people. But Rashaan asked

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<v Speaker 1>him if he's worried about dying in prison. Harvey, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>it scares the shit out of me. It's cold, it's heartless.

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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible to have the life that I had and

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I did for society and not have

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever they think I did bad in my life, I

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<v Speaker 1>He does speak to three of his kids every day.

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<v Speaker 1>of the gossip game. I was in La, so I

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<v Speaker 1>They stay together. I'm going, holy shit, this guy's married

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<v Speaker 1>to Eve with three kids. I got the story of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. I call them right away, Harvey, AJ, what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>What does some girls selling art in West Hollywood know?

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<v Speaker 1>You're cheating on your wife with some girl in England.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bullshit. I'm not It's a lie. Next story, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>He calls back in ten minutes. Okay, it's true. What

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<v Speaker 1>do we do. I'm not I'm leaving my wife for

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<v Speaker 1>A ja. We got to do this, right, I said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, that's what I offer to which a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people don't understand. I said, your public relations team

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<v Speaker 1>you got to supply them with shit. And what I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I can do that, I can get I still know

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<v Speaker 1>who to call and how to get big stories. I

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<v Speaker 1>can supply your team with gossip every day. If anybody

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<v Speaker 1>should call and want the Harvey hazard a fair story.

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<v Speaker 1>You brought it with them. That sounds great. Pay me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money ten grand a month to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kept it, actually kept it for ten months.

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<v Speaker 1>No one found out. He said, I think I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the clear. Can we can I stop paying al and

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<v Speaker 1>I jokingly said, no, fuck, you give me twenty more

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<v Speaker 1>thousand as a joke. So he stopped at eighty grand.

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<v Speaker 1>But we kept that under wrapped, and then he did

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<v Speaker 1>leave his wife for her, but it was also in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the big Disney announcement that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to hunk up with mirror masks. He was being

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<v Speaker 1>looked at really hard. But there were girls back then

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<v Speaker 1>who wanted to be big time in the movies. They

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<v Speaker 1>wanted their Oscar nominations, they wanted everything. Those other girls

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<v Speaker 1>got some of them. It worked out, Jennifer Lawrence perhaps.

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<v Speaker 1>Gwyneth Paltrow probably, even though he says that story of

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Pitt going to him, going to Harvey and telling him,

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<v Speaker 1>don't ever flirt with my girlfriend again, because Harvey after

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<v Speaker 1>they signed contracts for a movie, Harvey said how about

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<v Speaker 1>a massage? And Gwinny said, I don't think so. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel comfortable. And he said, okay, forget it. And

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<v Speaker 1>Brad went to Harvey and said, don't do that again. Ever.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my girl, all right, Brad. I get it. Was

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<v Speaker 1>that story concocted. Maybe they already fucked. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But she got a lot of Oscar nominations back then

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<v Speaker 1>and a win or two. She was on fire. Gwyneth Paltrow,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody thank Harvey more than God. At the Oscars which

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<v Speaker 1>are coming up this week, I gotta see this. Timothy

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<v Speaker 1>Shallaman movie. I gotta see it. That's probably gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks. Still, I'm gonna have to break down. I

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<v Speaker 1>started watching a ham knet that actress is gonna win

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<v Speaker 1>Best Actress without a doubt. Figured her name now, but

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<v Speaker 1>she was really good. Anyhow, he's having a tough time

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<v Speaker 1>and he's reading books. I'm gonna send him my book

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<v Speaker 1>before you guys say you hate me. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I have to write him a letter. I've been saying it.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to his publicist. I feel bad for the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I just do I know the way Hollywood works. I

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<v Speaker 1>know we have overplayed his hand. I know he was

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<v Speaker 1>probably pushy and seductive. I get it. But a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of chicks I know how it works in his town.

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<v Speaker 1>He even admits he shouldn't have gone out with the

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<v Speaker 1>people he went out with. I was married to a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic woman. I had no idea what I was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I lied all the time. I used my staff to

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<v Speaker 1>hide things, which he did. But I did not ever

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<v Speaker 1>sexually assault a woman. I never did that. He is

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<v Speaker 1>adamant about that, even though he was convicted of raping

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<v Speaker 1>Jessica Man in the first trial back in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and forcing oral sex on a former Project Runway PA

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<v Speaker 1>Mimi Haley. That got overturned. Now the retrial, he was

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<v Speaker 1>convinced convicted again on the Haley charge, which carries up

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five years in prison. Jury couldn't agree on the

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<v Speaker 1>man situation. It's a mess. If the third trial occurs,

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<v Speaker 1>man would have to testify we do. This is back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty thirteen at a Double Tree hotel. Not the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of places Harvey stays at. Kind of weird. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if Gavin Newsom's wife is among those people he

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<v Speaker 1>corresponds with, you know what I mean. Jennifer Cybel Newsom

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<v Speaker 1>admitted during the trial that she accused them of sexual assault,

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<v Speaker 1>that the sexual encounter they had was consentual, transactional sex

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<v Speaker 1>to advance her career. She said it right there. There

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<v Speaker 1>were emails that the defense had that she sent to

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<v Speaker 1>Weinstein after the two thousand and five situation. She testified

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<v Speaker 1>that she was trying to play the game and maintain

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<v Speaker 1>a professional relationship with a powerful figure to help her husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine fucking the guy that ski him for money for

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<v Speaker 1>her husband's election his campaign. I mean, yeah, she did.

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<v Speaker 1>Hobby might have even given it for all I know

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<v Speaker 1>loves all Democrats. Last meeting we had was aj you

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<v Speaker 1>got to get Trump, you know him the best, do

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<v Speaker 1>the long play. I'm I'm not going to take this

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<v Speaker 1>guy down, but yeah, he wanted me to. They all did.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Christ even ex guys that wrote with wanted me.

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<v Speaker 1>You must have him on tape. Take them down. You're

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<v Speaker 1>fucking kidding me. Take them down for the likes of who,

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<v Speaker 1>for Biden, for Kamala Harris, Give me a break. I

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<v Speaker 1>love everything that's going on, everything, but listen to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I tell you from being out here twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight years. A good actor or a good actress,

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<v Speaker 1>a good director, or a celebrity doesn't mean they're good

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<v Speaker 1>people automatically. I hope you've learned that by now. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>really look at celebrities and think that's a great person.

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<v Speaker 1>They are paid to use the words written by people

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<v Speaker 1>the likes of me. Writers, good writers. They have nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to offer basically except fake emotions. Yeah, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>few who could take your words and make them gold,

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<v Speaker 1>but most of them need your words to sound at

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<v Speaker 1>all interesting. I'll come across interesting. So again, that's don't

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<v Speaker 1>let Hollywood pollute your mind because they're famous. They're full

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<v Speaker 1>of shit. Speaking of full of shit, I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>this story today. I can't believe this. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe it. You know, shar is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>eighty and she's with this ab Anthony Edwards, this rap producer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I saw a picture of them too at

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<v Speaker 1>Chastity's wedding. Chastity is marrying a woman, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different story. I don't even know where to go

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<v Speaker 1>with this. I thought she was a lesbian many years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>but then became a man and got a woman. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it'll be easy for Chats to just stay gay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just because I don't know. I guess she has

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<v Speaker 1>the surgery. I don't even to think about it. But anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>Share Chasley's fifty seven. By the way, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>time is flying. I don't know why she would throw

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of surgery if she was gonna end up

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<v Speaker 1>marrying no woman. Anyway, what's the point. She was such

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<v Speaker 1>a cute little girl. Remember when she'd come out at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the show. At the end of Sunny

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<v Speaker 1>and Share show, they would hold her up on Sunny's shoulders,

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<v Speaker 1>and she said good night. Remember when we all ran

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<v Speaker 1>in to watch the Sonny and Share a variety show.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, variety shows are dead. Back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody had one Glenn Campbell, Perry Combo, John Denver, John

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<v Speaker 1>Davidson's Dean Martin. It was all variety shows. If Share

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<v Speaker 1>does marry again, because she didn't have a big ring

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<v Speaker 1>on her left hand, on the ring for Big Diamond.

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<v Speaker 1>If she does marry again, I wonder if Chas will

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<v Speaker 1>be the best man. It's suddenly something we should consider, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she is a man after all, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how that works. By the way, this looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>great book to dive into. Liza Minelli's memoirs just hit.

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<v Speaker 1>They're called Kids Wait till you Hear This, which I

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<v Speaker 1>love that title. But you read some of the excerpts.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, the fact that her mother, Judy Garland, was

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<v Speaker 1>jealous of Liza's talent at one point, I forget what

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<v Speaker 1>I read. But the producer of some show brought Liza

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<v Speaker 1>on stage as a surprise while her mother was singing,

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<v Speaker 1>and Liza continued to sing the duet and Judy did

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<v Speaker 1>what she did, and as soon as the song was over,

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<v Speaker 1>she said to the prodict, don't ever bring another bitch

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<v Speaker 1>on my set. It's her daughter. But she had to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the mother who was always high, either high

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<v Speaker 1>and uppers or down on barbituates. I mean, Judy Garland

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<v Speaker 1>Not to mention how many. I mean just they gave

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<v Speaker 1>her uppers to work, get up early, go to work,

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<v Speaker 1>go to the studio, go to the lot. They gave

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<v Speaker 1>her downers to slow down, and made sure she got

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<v Speaker 1>some sleep. This went on for her whole career. You

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<v Speaker 1>hear her at the end of her life trying to

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<v Speaker 1>sing and she's losing her temper. It's it's just said, said, said, said.

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<v Speaker 1>And I learned from the book that Liza had this

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<v Speaker 1>long affair with Martin Scores. As you know. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>When I met Harvey that day at the at the

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<v Speaker 1>Hotel four Seasons, and we were talking about how I

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<v Speaker 1>could help him, and there's this book, there's this story

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<v Speaker 1>being written about me. It wasn't about rape. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just a hit piece, that's all he said. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>who do you think he's doing it? I need you

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<v Speaker 1>to find out who's doing it. It could be near Magazte.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be the Times. Can you snoop around? I go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he was gonna pay me a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't about rape. He didn't know. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>hit piece. That's all he hurt. So I'm like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>And he mentioned it could be Marty. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>the girl the Marty's with, and he's married to a

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<v Speaker 1>woman that I think he has dementia or Parkinson's or something.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, what do you mean. He said he

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<v Speaker 1>got a woman pregnant not too long ago, and she

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<v Speaker 1>could be a you know, she's not really a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of mine. I had no he was giving me like

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<v Speaker 1>such a big story. I've never said it until just now.

415
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<v Speaker 1>But anyhow, Eliza was having an affair with Scuse as

416
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<v Speaker 1>they got together because of their love of drugs, their

417
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<v Speaker 1>love of cocaine in the seventies, marijuana, Kwai Lud's speed,

418
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<v Speaker 1>that's all they did. It got to the point where,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the story goes that when he was making

420
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<v Speaker 1>some of his movies before Raging Bull, he was in

421
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<v Speaker 1>the hospital about to die and Robert de Niro had

422
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<v Speaker 1>to really give my hard talk about how I was

423
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<v Speaker 1>going to kill himself and he gets out of it.

424
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<v Speaker 1>We got a direct. He's got a direct, raging bull.

425
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<v Speaker 1>He didn't want to do that. He was really down

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<v Speaker 1>on himself, and apparently de Niro had a lot to

427
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<v Speaker 1>do with getting him on his feet. But he was

428
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<v Speaker 1>famous for getting high. A taxi driver, airplanes coming back

429
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<v Speaker 1>with film mechanics is filled with cocaine one time, a plane,

430
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<v Speaker 1>private plane film. It just cocaine so he can finish

431
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<v Speaker 1>editing a movie. I mean, he was. If you look

432
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<v Speaker 1>at his movies, you can see this that they smash

433
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:15.759
<v Speaker 1>cuts some of the fight scenes. The beatings guy was high.

434
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<v Speaker 1>And I know that people will take drugs before they

435
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<v Speaker 1>do something creative. Tend to think that's what made me creative.

436
00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:23.599
<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of those thoughts too. It's not true.

437
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know you people say marijuana gets you

438
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<v Speaker 1>more creative. I maybe, but if you're smoking a for years,

439
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<v Speaker 1>that's all you're relying on. You're not relying on your

440
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<v Speaker 1>mind to make you have these ideas. You're not giving

441
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<v Speaker 1>your mind a shot. You're opening it up to some

442
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<v Speaker 1>drug and then another drug. We want to think, but no,

443
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<v Speaker 1>I remember vividly riding so much at night, high on coke,

444
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<v Speaker 1>and the next day looking at it, going oh god,

445
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<v Speaker 1>this is all horrible, losing five to six pages. That

446
00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:53.759
<v Speaker 1>sounded so great that night before, but in the morning

447
00:24:53.799 --> 00:24:57.279
<v Speaker 1>it's fucking awful. Get rid of it and show anybody.

448
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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of times that happens more than spitting

449
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<v Speaker 1>out words and going, oh my god, it's brilliant. Some

450
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<v Speaker 1>things have been written and performed, whether the guy's fucked up.

451
00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Of course, not all of it though, but either way.

452
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<v Speaker 1>One day she says she's on the street with her

453
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<v Speaker 1>husband Jack Well Jack Haley, right, his father played the

454
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<v Speaker 1>tin man in The Wizard of Oz, which is kind

455
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<v Speaker 1>of funny. Opposite her mother. Scorsese's walking down the street

456
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<v Speaker 1>and he sees Eliza and her husband, and he begins

457
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<v Speaker 1>to rip her a new ass because she apparently had

458
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<v Speaker 1>an affair with the ballet star Mikhail Barishtakov. What she

459
00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:36.559
<v Speaker 1>coped to. But he's doing this in front of her husband.

460
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<v Speaker 1>How could you do this to me? Like, imagine being

461
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<v Speaker 1>the husband. Who do you get mad at? Scorsese? Eliza Barishtakov,

462
00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:46.519
<v Speaker 1>she's fucking around unless he was gay like petere Lland

463
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<v Speaker 1>was gay and other guys she dated were gay. But

464
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:52.519
<v Speaker 1>he still hasn't spoken to her. She says sometime in

465
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<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen or so, they met at some award show

466
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<v Speaker 1>and she said hi, he turned around and walked away.

467
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<v Speaker 1>So here's my Liza's story. I do have a life story,

468
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<v Speaker 1>which I feel very lucky about because you know, she's

469
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<v Speaker 1>a big fucking star and uh hey, it pays to

470
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<v Speaker 1>be around some of these people. So the story that

471
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<v Speaker 1>I have is first I got to start with. I

472
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<v Speaker 1>just saw a documentary I think on Netflix or maybe

473
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<v Speaker 1>Amazon about the old Horn and Hard Art hr Dart

474
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<v Speaker 1>Horn and Hard Art. The Automat in New York City,

475
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:33.799
<v Speaker 1>there was a few of them. The automat was where

476
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:36.599
<v Speaker 1>you went, but we had one right next to the

477
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<v Speaker 1>Daily News. Daily News was two twenty East forty second Street.

478
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<v Speaker 1>Automat was two hundred East forty second. Tree was right there.

479
00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I passed it a bunch of times. I remember hearing

480
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<v Speaker 1>about it my grand Mary, my grandparents, my mother. If

481
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<v Speaker 1>everybody went to the automat, because all the food was

482
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<v Speaker 1>behind a piece of glass, and you put I think

483
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<v Speaker 1>a nickel it back in the day, opened the glass door.

484
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<v Speaker 1>There's your piece of pie, there's your mass potatoes and gravy,

485
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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want it. And everybody took it to a

486
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<v Speaker 1>table at eight and there was no waiters and wakess.

487
00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:06.559
<v Speaker 1>You just put money in the machine. It was like,

488
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:11.920
<v Speaker 1>people love the automat and it was an honor to

489
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<v Speaker 1>work well, it was an honor to work in that building.

490
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<v Speaker 1>The New York Daily News building is an institution. It's

491
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<v Speaker 1>where they filmed Superman, the TV show that was the

492
00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Daily Planet. Inside that lobby is a great big planet

493
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.599
<v Speaker 1>Earth that spins and and on the floor all these

494
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:32.680
<v Speaker 1>mileage amounts of where how far it is to go

495
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>to Malaysia, to go to you know, Tunisia, to go

496
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>to Milan as you walk, but that big globe, it's beautiful.

497
00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:42.039
<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful thing to see in a lobby. I

498
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:45.279
<v Speaker 1>always loved going in there, and I loved having the

499
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:50.039
<v Speaker 1>automat right next door. And you know, like I said,

500
00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:52.599
<v Speaker 1>just throw some coins in the slot, take out your

501
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:56.640
<v Speaker 1>comfort food, and it just was. It was a great

502
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 1>thing that that lasted past the good old days. Put

503
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<v Speaker 1>it that way. So one night, when I was dating

504
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:05.599
<v Speaker 1>downtown Julie Brown, it's hard. It was hard not to

505
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:08.160
<v Speaker 1>be seen when you're with Julie Julie never dated or

506
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:10.599
<v Speaker 1>data dressed on the down low. She would come out

507
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>with big elephant bell bottom, you know, polka dot jeans

508
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.799
<v Speaker 1>that a halt the top, some crazy hat. It was

509
00:28:19.839 --> 00:28:23.519
<v Speaker 1>never like she want love being seen and everybody would

510
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:27.799
<v Speaker 1>shout downtown, you know, downtown to the ground. They'd shout wubbahobhahobba,

511
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 1>which was her sign off on the on the on

512
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.759
<v Speaker 1>the MTV show, well MTV and the Gossip Show. That

513
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:35.559
<v Speaker 1>was the thing. So it was hard to not be

514
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<v Speaker 1>seen with her. So she's had platform boots are just

515
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:45.519
<v Speaker 1>crazy shit and she was just she was a moving

516
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>feast of sexuality and funny. She was so funny. And

517
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:54.519
<v Speaker 1>I reminded her of her ex boyfriend because she said,

518
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 1>one of the most romantic things you ever did was

519
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>he went out one he wasn't supposed to go out,

520
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and she came to the door really pissed off of him.

521
00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>And she said, he picked me up and put me

522
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:09.079
<v Speaker 1>in the washing machine and said, I can close the

523
00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.119
<v Speaker 1>door and walk away where you can walk out of this.

524
00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Never say a fucking word about it again. And they

525
00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>both thoughted laughing, but they got a long gress that

526
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:19.039
<v Speaker 1>runds you with me, Well, you know you got a

527
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:20.559
<v Speaker 1>tough call. You know you say what you mean? I

528
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>mean you say when she saw me have a fight

529
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the first time we met. So anyhow, we would call

530
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>each other a lot when I was the first, when

531
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I was first at the Daily News, she and I.

532
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:32.759
<v Speaker 1>She was my first friend, my first girlfriend, and so

533
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>to speak that I told my family I'm going to

534
00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:37.039
<v Speaker 1>be with her. They all laughed at me. I said,

535
00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm you're married. I don't care, it's gonna something all divorce.

536
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna And all these things came true, So people

537
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:44.319
<v Speaker 1>in my family and my friends began to believe me

538
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 1>when I'd say the impossible, I want to be friends

539
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:48.559
<v Speaker 1>with Mickey Up, I'm sure you will. I'm gonna be

540
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:50.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna work for the Daily News. Everything I said

541
00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>came true. Nobody doubted me. So she'd make these phone

542
00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>calls to me at work at the Daily News, and

543
00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:01.559
<v Speaker 1>she called me Ben's that I Ben to man. It

544
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 1>was always Bens a man. And I know it's hard

545
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:07.319
<v Speaker 1>to believe, but back then, I didn't shave at the

546
00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>five o'clock shadow. I wore blue sunglasses, and I did

547
00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:15.039
<v Speaker 1>for a smission of time resemble George Michael in his

548
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Mission of Time. Not that we look alike, but it

549
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:19.519
<v Speaker 1>was sudden about their hair to close the glasses and

550
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:23.279
<v Speaker 1>the stubble whatever. So she faxed me pictures and faxed

551
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>me that's how long ago, fax me pictures of George

552
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Michael and read Benzaman. So it was we were very flirty,

553
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:30.720
<v Speaker 1>with so much fun. And I called her Clicker because

554
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:32.960
<v Speaker 1>every time we're on the phone, she'd have coll waiting

555
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:35.119
<v Speaker 1>and it was always somebody calling her while she was

556
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>on a phone me. So I called her Clicker. And

557
00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:40.559
<v Speaker 1>not until months later when I began to go to

558
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>her apartment and stuff. These calls were coming from Mick Jagger,

559
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>from Michael Irvin and the Dallas Cowboys. Because I remember

560
00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Julie used to do the field pieces for NFL every Sunday.

561
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>She had to be a stars trying to hook her.

562
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Even the Giant's greatest player, Lawrence Taylor, was after her.

563
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Mason on the Knicks, big Boys, big men were

564
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.559
<v Speaker 1>calling her. So many others I can't remember, but we

565
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>began to date secretly, and one night we're at the

566
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:09.319
<v Speaker 1>sum spot in Alphabet City, downtown east Side. It was

567
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>called Flamingo East, drag queens as waitresses, tending bar, very like,

568
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, a real New York kind of scene. When

569
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:20.039
<v Speaker 1>drag queens didn't bother me at all. I don't know

570
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>what they do now, but back then they were just

571
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:23.759
<v Speaker 1>part of their scene. And one night we're trying to

572
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>eat in the back, trying to hide because Julie was

573
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>technically still dating her boyfriend who owned restaurants downtown. He

574
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:32.119
<v Speaker 1>was very popular. Charles I forget his last name, owned

575
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:35.559
<v Speaker 1>the coffee shop, owned I think the Iguana. He was

576
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 1>big time. I don't know it. Comes Liza Minelli and

577
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.559
<v Speaker 1>her friend Billy Stretch, just a gay guy she always

578
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>walks around to. He's a jazz penis the singer. He's

579
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:48.799
<v Speaker 1>been a close friend and music director for over twenty

580
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 1>five years, right, maybe longer, always in the cabaret scene.

581
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>And like I said, gay as the day is long.

582
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>And they seat them next to us, and almost immediately

583
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Liza recognized that, and then suddenly we're all They pull

584
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>our tables together and now we're all dining together. Dinner

585
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>is over. It's like two o'clock in the morning. We're

586
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>about to get a care come take come, get to

587
00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>my car on my town call with Billy. Now we're

588
00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:16.559
<v Speaker 1>in a town called her and Billy. Where do we go? Now,

589
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:19.079
<v Speaker 1>what's next? And Julie's like, he's a gossipt now he

590
00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>should know. I said, you know, it's two o'clock, there's

591
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>some class. Well what we I'm actually I'm hungry. We

592
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.799
<v Speaker 1>just ate and Liza's hungry again, and she goes, let's

593
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:32.319
<v Speaker 1>go to the automat. I'm like, you know what, that

594
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>could be kind of cool. We go to the automat.

595
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I'd never been there. I act like I was dare before,

596
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>but I'd never been there. And it was fun picking

597
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>out food behind a glass window. Cheap food and good.

598
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.119
<v Speaker 1>It didn't close the nickel. I forget the price, but

599
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>it was suddenly worth it. It was cool. It turns

600
00:32:48.240 --> 00:32:51.319
<v Speaker 1>out that was the last automat to survive, and it

601
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:54.359
<v Speaker 1>closed at the end of nineteen ninety one, So that

602
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>was the year I was there with Julie and Liza,

603
00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:58.839
<v Speaker 1>and like a few weeks after we were there it

604
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:04.039
<v Speaker 1>closed down. And now her driver drops off Billy first,

605
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:08.160
<v Speaker 1>then Julie. They kind of lived near each other, so

606
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>at the end it's me and Liijah together in the car.

607
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:12.559
<v Speaker 1>And all I could think about was how many times

608
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:16.319
<v Speaker 1>my father told me to see Cabaret and New York,

609
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:18.359
<v Speaker 1>New York with Robert de Niro, which I love. But

610
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Cabaret was so big that summer of seventy four. I

611
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>wrote about it in my book. It's a crucial moment

612
00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:26.799
<v Speaker 1>in my book, the fact that that movie was so popular.

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<v Speaker 1>And he dressed up my cousin as if he were

614
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<v Speaker 1>lies of Manila. Even did it to Jackie, but he

615
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 1>was I'm two years old. We put a little dress

616
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:36.039
<v Speaker 1>on him and makeup and a black wig, and jack

617
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:38.359
<v Speaker 1>came in and said, get that was fucking close off

618
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 1>my son. He wouldn't have it. But we did it

619
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<v Speaker 1>to my cousin Gino, and he knew the words the Cabaret.

620
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>It was a big thing in our house. So being

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<v Speaker 1>with her was everything to me. And my back back

622
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>then was really bad. This is right before, right after

623
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<v Speaker 1>my first operation, which didn't work, and I'm popping perkose

624
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>that's like pez and I finally go in my pocket.

625
00:33:58.519 --> 00:34:00.839
<v Speaker 1>I always came out with four and a couple of

626
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:02.839
<v Speaker 1>muscle relaxses. I'm my good, I'll go to bed soon.

627
00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I popped two percocets and a muscler. I think it

628
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>was a fearin all back then. Oh what a combination.

629
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<v Speaker 1>And Lja saw me do it, and she's like, what

630
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 1>nothing for me? Just as if she was in a movie.

631
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 1>It was like it was a line written for in

632
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<v Speaker 1>a script with that Liza face, those lies of lips,

633
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? The beauty mark I go no.

634
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I gave her two paint pills and she was so happy.

635
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<v Speaker 1>And those times were very weird because I basically had

636
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>her dead to rights to answer any questions I could

637
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:37.360
<v Speaker 1>have asked her. Would have been a great column. But

638
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 1>as it happened more and more in my career, especially

639
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>with what's his Name's parents who were killed along with

640
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>OJS Nicole Brown and Ronald Goeman's parents, I had them

641
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>cornered out a play and the publicists put our seats

642
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:55.119
<v Speaker 1>right behind the airs. I just couldn't pull the trigger.

643
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>They'd been through enough shit. I don't need a column

644
00:34:57.480 --> 00:34:59.519
<v Speaker 1>to ask parents that are grieving with how they feel.

645
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I just couldn't do it. And that's something they said,

646
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:04.760
<v Speaker 1>good good, you got a heart. Don't do it, and

647
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.199
<v Speaker 1>we walked out of the theater. But what a thing

648
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to be next to Eliza and not say, hey, can

649
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 1>I interview you for a story. I didn't want to

650
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:14.800
<v Speaker 1>do it. I just wanted her to be comfortable and

651
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.639
<v Speaker 1>have a nice day and nice night. And it would

652
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:19.679
<v Speaker 1>have been a great story because not many journalists have

653
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 1>spent the night with Liza. But I said to her,

654
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:24.119
<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, I just liked the fact that

655
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:26.079
<v Speaker 1>I got to hang out with you and we had

656
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 1>fun considering how much I love Cabaret and how much

657
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.280
<v Speaker 1>it means to my family, and I told her a story.

658
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:33.400
<v Speaker 1>We laughed and laughed, and it was such a normal

659
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of a ride. I didn't want to spoil it

660
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 1>by peppering up with questions because they all know how

661
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>to answer questions when they come from a gossip. She's

662
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>a pro not gonna get shit, and she was genuinely

663
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<v Speaker 1>happy that I decided to be that way. Maybe she

664
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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't like this show, but hey, you know, it's been

665
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:51.239
<v Speaker 1>a long time. I mean, at some point a man's

666
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<v Speaker 1>gotta talk twenty some odred years, twenty five years, whatever

667
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the hell it is. But I love that I got

668
00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a chance to spend the night with such a big star.

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<v Speaker 1>And I could see it in her eyes and her

670
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.519
<v Speaker 1>how her body relaxed, and I think the gesture was

671
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate it, and I'm happy about that because it's uh,

672
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.559
<v Speaker 1>obviously it's never happened again. I've never been in her

673
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<v Speaker 1>company again, although I do remember hearing a great story

674
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<v Speaker 1>from Scott Baio who uh oh. I think he was

675
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<v Speaker 1>on a he was in a play or something. He

676
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:25.960
<v Speaker 1>was on stage somewhere and Liza Mellie was up front

677
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:28.119
<v Speaker 1>and she's given him the eye, like winking at him

678
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<v Speaker 1>while he's performing or whatever he was doing. I forget,

679
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:33.519
<v Speaker 1>you know what. I'm so it might have been. It

680
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<v Speaker 1>might be not. I think it was John Stables not.

681
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I get my boys confused. It was John Stainles.

682
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<v Speaker 1>He was performing somewhere, Eliza was sitting up front. A

683
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 1>couple of winks, blah blah blah. He goes back to

684
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<v Speaker 1>his dressing room and somebody says, Liza and Nelly went

685
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:50.559
<v Speaker 1>to come in. Oh, okay, Sure, she comes in and

686
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 1>she begins to sing for him, like she's giving him

687
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<v Speaker 1>a special concert. She just breaks out of the song

688
00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.599
<v Speaker 1>and then like another song, and he's sitting on the

689
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<v Speaker 1>couch and she's doing her Liza thing, Eliza with the

690
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Z kind of thing, and I said, what did you do?

691
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<v Speaker 1>I fucked her. I couldn't believe. I'm like you did,

692
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>He goes, I had to How do you how do

693
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<v Speaker 1>you get that to end? You just throw it down

694
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<v Speaker 1>at you know, that's how it ends. I could have

695
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<v Speaker 1>done that. I don't know what I would have done.

696
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<v Speaker 1>That would be a horrifying experience to go through to

697
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<v Speaker 1>see Eliza Manelli probably in her fifties now that're in

698
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 1>my sixties. Fifties sound young, but still it's Liza slop. Eliza,

699
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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna throw that down on the couch. I couldn't.

700
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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't do it. That's why stay most is the king.

701
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<v Speaker 1>It's got the most stories. If you have a podcast,

702
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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, the shit you'd hear. But he'll never

703
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<v Speaker 1>do it. He's too much of a good man. Me

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<v Speaker 1>I kiss him, tell, but no kiss him with Liza.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for today. Gang on aj Benz And that

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<v Speaker 1>was your daily Unfiltered podcast from March eleventh, twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk again tomorrow
