WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:06.000 It is The Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Monday, 2 00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:09.919 another hour the Jesse Kelly Show. We have an amazing 3 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:12.960 hour for you, and it's just jam packed full of goodness. 4 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:15.560 Of course, Medal of Honor Monday's coming up. A minute 5 00:00:15.599 --> 00:00:19.280 from now. We have j Michael Waller joining us. A 6 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:23.280 half hour from now, they're starting to do breakdowns of 7 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:28.199 these Antifa terrorist groups and he was involved in things 8 00:00:28.320 --> 00:00:32.159 like communist revolutions in El Salvador. He's just a wealth 9 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:35.560 of knowledge and he's about to dump that knowledge on us. 10 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.359 About a half hour from now, we'll talk more about 11 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.799 these people using power, the religion of conquest, Alvin Bragg, 12 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:47.039 let some New York woman go free? Why did that happen? 13 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:49.880 All that more coming up on the world famous Jesse 14 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:54.079 Kelly Show. But this moment is dedicated to heroes, as 15 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:58.679 it always is on Mondays Mondays. Start of the second hour, 16 00:00:59.119 --> 00:01:01.799 it's Medal of Honor Monday time on this show, always 17 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:05.159 has been and always will be. You can do this. 18 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:08.200 I want to again encourage you. I didn't do any 19 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:12.120 of these things. I don't own this. Everybody has access 20 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.079 to every Medal of Honor citation that's ever been earned. 21 00:01:16.280 --> 00:01:18.879 You can do this with your family, with your class, 22 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:22.040 with your team, you can do it at work. Read 23 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:26.040 the names, read the deeds. It's not just good and 24 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:28.959 healthy for the country. It's interesting. It's like it's like 25 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:33.239 an action movie. And yes, of course we take email recommendations. 26 00:01:33.319 --> 00:01:36.719 Love hey, death threats and recommendations. If there are ones 27 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:39.719 you love, like this one, Jesse, I absolutely love your 28 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:42.400 Medal of Honor Mondays. Try to listen to them whatever 29 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:46.400 my schedule permits. I just finished a book about Chosen 30 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:50.120 Reservoir and was amazed by the actions of Medal of 31 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:55.439 Honor recipient Hector A. Caferata, Junior, and would love to 32 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:58.319 hear you relate his story to your audience. Will you 33 00:01:58.359 --> 00:02:02.760 actually done this one one before? And as is usually 34 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:07.920 the case with these things, his citation is grossly inadequate 35 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:10.759 compared to what he did, and his citation is amazing. 36 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:14.560 So I'm going to start with the citation. Then I'll 37 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:18.439 add some more detail to it because they actually underserved 38 00:02:18.439 --> 00:02:20.759 the man, and I'll explain why that happened. 39 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:21.199 Anyway. 40 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:24.280 He was born in New York City in nineteen twenty 41 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:28.080 nine United States Marine Corps and this is what he 42 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:33.199 did Hey, honoring those who went above and beyond. 43 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:38.520 It's Medal of Honor Monday. 44 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:46.599 For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his 45 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:49.599 life above and beyond the call of duty while serving 46 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:53.199 as a rifleman with Company F in action against enemy 47 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:57.000 aggressor forces. When all other members of his fire team 48 00:02:57.080 --> 00:03:01.000 became casualties, creating a gap in the line. During the 49 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:04.919 initial phase of a vicious attack launched by a fanatical 50 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:10.039 enemy of regimental strength against his company's hill position, Private 51 00:03:10.120 --> 00:03:14.719 Caferata waged a lone battle with grenades and rifle fire. 52 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:19.199 As the attack gained momentum momentum and the enemy threatened 53 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:23.039 penetration through the gap and endangered the integrity of the 54 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:28.319 entire defensive perimeter. Making a target of himself. Under devastating 55 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:33.080 fire from automatic weapons, rifles, grenades, and mortars, he moved 56 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:36.879 up and down the line and delivered accurate and effective 57 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:42.240 fire against the on rushing force, killing fifteen, wounding many more, 58 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:46.759 enforcing others to withdraw so that reinforcements could move up 59 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:53.280 and consolidate the position. Again, fighting desperately against a renewed onslaught. 60 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:56.719 Later that same morning, when a hostile grenade landed in 61 00:03:56.800 --> 00:04:02.759 a shallow entrenchment occupied by wounded marines. Private Caferata rushed 62 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:06.639 into the gully under heavy fire, seized the deadly missile 63 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:09.039 in his right hand and hurled it free of his 64 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:14.400 comrades before it detonated, severing part of one finger and seriously. 65 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:16.519 Wounding him in the right hand and arm. 66 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:21.879 Courageously, ignoring the intense pain, he staunchly fought on until 67 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:24.959 he was struck by a sniper's bullet and forced to 68 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:29.959 submit to evacuation for medical treatment. Stout hearted and indomitable, 69 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:34.920 Private Caferata, by his fortitude, great personal valor, and dautless 70 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:38.120 perseverance in the face of almost certain death, saved the 71 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:42.560 lives of several of his fellow marines and contributed essentially 72 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:46.279 to the success achieved by his company in maintaining the 73 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:52.000 defensive position against tremendous odds. His extraordinary heroism throughout was 74 00:04:52.040 --> 00:04:55.720 in keeping with the highest traditions of US Naval service. 75 00:04:57.199 --> 00:04:59.199 Now for the rest of the story, or at least 76 00:04:59.199 --> 00:05:04.519 a bit of it. First of all, he was an athlete, 77 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:07.720 a world class football player. I believe, if memory serves me, 78 00:05:07.800 --> 00:05:11.360 he went semi pro football player, big dude. In fact, 79 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:15.959 his nickname was Big Heck. That was his nickname, Big 80 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:20.759 Heck football player joins the Marine Corps. Is kind of 81 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:23.439 a problem child in the Marine Corps. It's kind of 82 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:27.079 a problem child, and those oftentimes are the guys who 83 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:30.639 earned these incredible medals. So he's got a buddy with 84 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:33.959 him this night. His comrade in arms is a guy 85 00:05:34.519 --> 00:05:39.360 Kenneth Benson. Is his name, Private Kenneth Benson. They are 86 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:42.120 in their sleeping bags. Remember it is frigid cold. 87 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:42.560 Now. 88 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:46.759 This took place at a place called Talk Tong Pass. 89 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:48.639 I don't expect that to mean anything to you. It 90 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:52.600 doesn't matter. Here's what you have to know. Our troops 91 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:55.839 were cut off at at chosen reservoir, or I should 92 00:05:55.920 --> 00:06:00.720 say almost cut off. If we lost contra roll of 93 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:05.839 Talktong Pass, our troops would be completely cut off and 94 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:09.240 we may have seen the annihilation of thirty thousand troops. 95 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:14.680 That's how severe the situation was. Big He's company was 96 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:20.879 essentially overlooking that pass. The Chinese troops knew they had 97 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:24.800 to take his position. What's in his position? About two 98 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:30.240 hundred marines roughly? How many did the Chinese send? Different 99 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.920 estimates depending on what you read twelve to fourteen hundred 100 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:39.079 Chinese troops attack them because they had to have the pass. 101 00:06:39.639 --> 00:06:41.439 Now you know how I told you these guys were 102 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:46.279 in their sleeping bags. Kenneth Benson, his buddy had a 103 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:48.639 grenade essentially believe it was a grenade if memory sir 104 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:52.120 as me explode and it blinded him, had he no 105 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:54.160 longer had the use of his eyes at the beginning 106 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:58.000 of this. But this little warrior, who should have possibly 107 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:01.079 earned the metal himself, did not quit, did not give up. 108 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:06.800 He spent the rest of the night refilling magazines and 109 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:11.040 handing magazines to Big Heck, who spent his time shooting them, 110 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:15.199 and his blind buddy is blindly handing the magazine's. The 111 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.399 Chinese are chucking so many grenades up at Big Heck 112 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:21.759 during all this, he actually pulls out his little mini 113 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:25.480 shovel and starts swatting them back at the Chinese like 114 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:28.319 baseballs when they're chucking him at him. I'm telling you, 115 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:30.759 man that they could make an entire movie out of 116 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.920 this one part of Chosen Reservoir, and it would win 117 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.480 all kinds of awards, except you know, they'd gave the 118 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:38.680 whole thing up and ruin it all, but it is 119 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:43.480 an insane story. Oh in one tiny little bit that 120 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:45.600 maybe the biggest bit of it. You know how I 121 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:49.439 told you they were in their sleeping bags, they didn't 122 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:54.879 have time to put on their shoes. It's ten to 123 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:58.800 twenty below zero at least, and they are standing in 124 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:03.560 knee deep snow, and Big Heck is taking on waves 125 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:09.879 of Chinese in his bare freaking feet for hours at 126 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:14.199 a time, hours at a time. So many Marines died 127 00:08:14.240 --> 00:08:16.600 in this company. I told you it was about two hundred. 128 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:19.560 You know how many were left by morning? About eighty. 129 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:23.879 They're just dying in droves, and Heck is just murdering 130 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:27.000 the Chinese as fast as they can come at him. 131 00:08:27.319 --> 00:08:32.200 You know, they said he killed fifteen. There are estimates 132 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:34.200 from multiple people. 133 00:08:34.840 --> 00:08:37.000 That he killed a hundred of them. 134 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:40.879 They did not report that number because they thought it 135 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:43.759 would not be believed. Now, who knows what the exact 136 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:45.759 number is, But it was not fifteen. 137 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:47.279 It was a lot. 138 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:51.399 He was in his bare feet by the time he 139 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:55.440 got back. They didn't know if he was going to 140 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:57.799 keep either of his feet, and they did not know 141 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:00.559 if he was going to live. They ship him back 142 00:09:00.600 --> 00:09:03.840 to America his feet were like black. They shipped him 143 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:08.039 back to America. He had to undergo treatment for a 144 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:12.720 year and a half before he was upright, kept his feet, 145 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:15.799 kept his patriotism. I think he worked for the Forest Service, 146 00:09:15.799 --> 00:09:19.159 if I remember right. Was always a hardcore patriot and 147 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:21.039 by the way, a super humble dude. 148 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:22.919 When they told him me to earn the Medal of Honor, 149 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:24.399 he asked him to mail it to him. 150 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:27.919 Can you just put that in the mail, And they said. 151 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:30.399 Uh no, no, no, you actually need to come to Washington, 152 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:31.639 d c. And accept it. 153 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:37.080 Lived until two thy sixteen, died in the state of Florida. 154 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:41.000 Is buried, I believe. Don't quote me on this. I 155 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.159 haven't read his stuff in a while. I think he's 156 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:48.240 buried at Quantico Virginia Marine Corps based Quantico, Virginia. Big heck, man, 157 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:52.240 I'm telling you hid a lion, a lion who saved 158 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:55.480 a lot of lives and did not kill fifteen fifteen. 159 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:00.759 That's an appetizer for big heck. All right, we're gonna 160 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:04.440 talk about what happened in corporate America. Well again, touch 161 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:10.039 on communists using power when they find it. It is 162 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:15.559 the Jesse Kelly Show on a wild amazing Monday, only 163 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:17.440 ten minutes away from Jmichael Waller. 164 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:18.840 I'm so excited about that. 165 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:22.039 To learn more about these Antifa terror networks member, you 166 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:26.320 can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. 167 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:28.360 If you missed any part of the show, you can 168 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:33.120 download at iHeart Spotify iTunes. I'm actually gonna pause really 169 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:36.039 quickly on them using power because I wanted to bring 170 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.919 up something. Apparently so many people were angry about it. 171 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:41.960 I know it's NFL season, and I know the NFL 172 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:43.919 is majorly popular, and I know you probably watched it. 173 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:47.039 I got all that the NFL came out and announced 174 00:10:47.080 --> 00:10:51.639 somebody named Bad Bunny. No idea who that is. Apparently 175 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:55.320 he's going to be the halftime show. He's some foreigner 176 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.960 and he has a history of saying things like this. 177 00:10:59.080 --> 00:11:01.480 Apparently were performing in the US. 178 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:04.919 Again, I'm scared, scared that I might raid the venue 179 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:09.559 outside my show, and honestly, I can risk the safety 180 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:13.919 of my fans like that. Mainland America just doesn't feel 181 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:15.200 necessary to me anymore. 182 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:19.120 Butever, I don't know who this person is. I could 183 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:21.240 not name a single song, and nor do I care 184 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:24.159 to find out. But let me let me just address 185 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:27.279 your rage for a moment, and believe me when I 186 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:32.120 tell you I am not scolding you for still watching 187 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.559 at all. I still do things that are bad. I 188 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:37.559 try not to. I still support companies I should. I 189 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:40.080 try not to. I'm trying to be better. So I'm 190 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:44.600 not lecturing at all. But there is something that takes 191 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:46.919 place now in all ways. So I'm gonna explain what 192 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.120 happened here. And actually I talked about this last week 193 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:52.799 when it comes to politics, but it very much applies 194 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:56.840 to companies, corporations. It really applies to so many things. Yeah, 195 00:11:57.039 --> 00:11:58.840 you know what, I'll make it about the Jesse Kelly Show. 196 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:04.879 The Jesse Kelly Show has hardcore listeners. Every show does. 197 00:12:04.919 --> 00:12:06.080 So I'm just going to make it about me to 198 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:08.840 make it easier to understand. And the radio business I 199 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:11.559 have learned they call them p ones. Still no idea 200 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:13.240 what that means, but that's what they call the most 201 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:15.679 hardcore people. Those are the people who don't miss a 202 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:17.720 single minute of any show. If they do, they'll download 203 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:18.519 the podcast. 204 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:19.480 You got it, the p ones. 205 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:23.440 If my goal, and this is not my goal, but 206 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:28.840 if my goal was I want to be the biggest, 207 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:32.919 richest radio star in the history of the world. And 208 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:34.559 that is not my goal, which is not my thing, 209 00:12:34.600 --> 00:12:37.720 as you know. But if that was my goal, then 210 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:41.960 here's how I might go about it. My p ones, 211 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:43.639 the hardcore listeners, maybe that's you. 212 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:47.720 I want to keep you. I have to keep you. 213 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:53.159 But I also because my goal is to be the biggest, 214 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:55.000 richest ever, I need more. 215 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:57.440 I need more people. Then, so. 216 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:04.159 How much can I stray from who I am and 217 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:07.399 what you like while still keeping you? 218 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:11.080 That's the goal. The goal is can I moderate a 219 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:11.559 little here? 220 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:16.039 Maybe be less offensive there, be a little less honest 221 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:17.639 about this, only a little. 222 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:19.320 I don't want I don't want to push you away. 223 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:22.679 But how much can I flirt with the line of 224 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.480 pushing you away to bring in new people so that 225 00:13:26.559 --> 00:13:28.879 I get to keep you and get more new people. 226 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:33.200 I used it in reference to politics before Republicans Democrats 227 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:35.919 they do this. How much can I screw my base 228 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:40.279 over in the general election, but not screw them over 229 00:13:40.360 --> 00:13:42.519 so much they leave. I need to screw them over 230 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:44.519 a little, bring in some of the some of the 231 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:50.320 more squishes, while not completely betraying my base. Okay, this 232 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:52.919 applies to more than just me. It applies to more 233 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:59.519 than politics. The NFL professional football. The NFL football in 234 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:04.799 America is unreasonably popular. It's ridiculous. It affects entire industries. 235 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:08.120 The grocery industry thrives when it's NFL season. Did you 236 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:11.360 know that we're obsessed with football? And again I am 237 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:17.360 not judging, but the NFL discovered something during the Saint 238 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:22.919 George Floyd insanity, the Black Lives Matter insanity in this country. 239 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:29.720 What they discovered was they can do anything, and they're 240 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:33.919 hardcore fans will never leave. Ever, they will never leave. 241 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:37.480 And I realize some maybe you did if there are 242 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:40.960 gonna be a few, but they will never have a 243 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:45.399 significant portion of their fan base stop watching football. They 244 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:48.519 can do Black Lives Matter rallies. Drew Brees can put 245 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:51.000 the name of a rapist on his helmet. They can 246 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:54.480 do the most despicable things in a world, in the world, 247 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:57.399 and even if you last a week or two, you'll 248 00:14:57.399 --> 00:15:01.639 be back watching, buying jerseys, go into the stadium cheering 249 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:08.600 for your team. Well, when that happens, they learn, well, hey, 250 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:12.480 I can do whatever I want. Why would you go 251 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:16.720 hire some commie foreigner to do the halftime show of 252 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:22.639 the biggest TV show in the world every year. Why, well, 253 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:26.279 you're not going anywhere. The NFL is trying to go international, 254 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:28.919 as all corporations are. They're trying to bring in more 255 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:32.240 of a fan base, a worldwide and international fan base. 256 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:37.279 American citizens have proven they will never leave it. They 257 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:40.519 will never leave it, they will never forsake it. The 258 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:46.840 NFL now knows after George Floyd, they are invincible. Their 259 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:52.600 p ones will endure unending things and they'll still keep watching. 260 00:15:54.559 --> 00:15:58.759 They were taught a lesson. And again, I'm not judging. 261 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:01.679 I am not mistakes too. I do bad things too. 262 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:03.720 I shouldn't even call mistakes. I do things I shouldn't 263 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:05.720 do too. I'm not telling you to turn off the 264 00:16:05.840 --> 00:16:06.440 NFL either. 265 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:06.759 I'm not. 266 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:08.480 You live your life the way you want go, enjoy 267 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:13.000 your football. But this is the result of that. The 268 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:18.840 NFL learned they are invincible, untouchable. They learn their lesson well, 269 00:16:19.519 --> 00:16:24.399 and now that's how they operate. It is the Jesse 270 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:27.039 Kelly Show on a Monday. 271 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:28.600 Member you can email. 272 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:32.120 Us Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. But enough of 273 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:34.320 that right now, because I want to get right to 274 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:38.639 doctor Michael Waller. He is the director of Strategy for 275 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:43.679 the Center for Security Policy and for our purposes. Tonight, 276 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:46.799 he is going to explain well quite a few things 277 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:50.200 about insurgency. But I want to talk about this armed 278 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:53.600 Queers of Salt Lake City breakdown, and I want to 279 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:57.679 understand how these organizations work, how these Antifa terror sales work. 280 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:02.159 And so doctor Waller, the floor is yours. Explain this 281 00:17:02.240 --> 00:17:04.440 insurgency to us as best you can. 282 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:11.200 An insurgency is an organization or a movement that works 283 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:15.920 above ground legally and has an underground movement for the 284 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:20.720 purposes of committing crimes and violence and secret conspiracies. So 285 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:24.559 we're at that stage now in parts of our country 286 00:17:24.680 --> 00:17:27.799 where authorities have let things get so far out of 287 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:31.200 control that you have a full blown insurgency, just like 288 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:35.359 the time that they had in say El Salvador forty 289 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:39.599 years ago. It's a communist led it has a lot 290 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:41.920 of fellow travelers and useful idiots who don't know what 291 00:17:41.920 --> 00:17:44.279 they're doing, and it has an above ground part that 292 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:47.279 you can see and an underground part that you can't see. 293 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:51.599 Okay, let's pause for a moment on where we are today. 294 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:54.200 If you wouldn't mind, I would like you to expand 295 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:57.039 quite a bit on what the heck happened in El 296 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:01.000 Salvador forty years ago, because most of us know, definitely myself, 297 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:03.599 are stupid and don't know what you're talking about. 298 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:07.960 Yeah, well it's it's it was a huge thing. Back then. 299 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:12.880 They were trying to replicate a communist revolution like in 300 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:15.400 South Vietnam, which had just collapsed to the communists just 301 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.759 a few years earlier. So in America, the movement that 302 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:22.640 had supported our communist enemy fighting us in South Vietnam, 303 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:26.079 they were looking for other causes. So they had the 304 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:30.079 Sandinista revolution in Nicaragua, and then right after that a 305 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.759 communist revolutionary movement in El Salvador and the sanctuary movement 306 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:37.559 which came out of that and brought us sanctuary cities here. 307 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:41.440 So the Salvador and insurgency, which was trained by the 308 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:45.799 Cubans and the East Germans and the Soviets developed for 309 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:48.559 L Salvador. But then they had spin offs to come 310 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:53.519 up to our country as as what as refugees, as migrants, 311 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:58.000 and they were given sanctuary through sanctuary cities and a 312 00:18:58.079 --> 00:19:01.799 sanctuary movement so that the federal authorities could not commit 313 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:05.440 and deport them back to Los Albado see the families 314 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:08.960 and civilian support structure of the communist guerrillas coming up 315 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:11.640 to Los Angeles and Boston and New York and elsewhere 316 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:14.839 to live permanently and then set up their own networks here. 317 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:20.319 Okay, again we're speaking with doctor Michael Waller, Center for 318 00:19:20.359 --> 00:19:24.240 Security Policy. Okay, so where we are now? Break it 319 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:28.359 down for us. Where are we with these terror cells? 320 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:31.519 May how did they come to be? What kind of 321 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:34.160 makeup is there? How dangerous is this? 322 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:35.640 Is it? Please explain? 323 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:39.519 Well, there's an ancestry to all of this, so it's 324 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:43.400 not something new, so therefore it's not something hard for 325 00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:47.039 our authorities to learn about. If only they had people 326 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:50.519 in the system who were looking at underground communists and 327 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:52.920 anarchist groups. But the FBI was looking at you and me, 328 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:56.720 so they weren't paying attention. And really there's there's almost 329 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:59.279 no one left inside the bureau who understands this stuff. 330 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.960 Be that as it may, these groups have been allowed 331 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:09.279 literally free reign for decades. They got their inspiration and 332 00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:14.599 their training and even the recruitment of their cadres through 333 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.920 a lot of the elderly now elderly nineteen sixties radicals 334 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:24.400 and nineteen seventies radicals tied in with the Weather Underground. Say, 335 00:20:24.519 --> 00:20:27.720 you know, the same folks who actually get coached Barack Obama, 336 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.759 Hill Airs and Bernadine Dorn to the Weather Underground. What 337 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:34.880 did they do? They got acceptable positions marching through the 338 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:39.200 institutions as university professors like Angela Davis and so many 339 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:43.880 others at that time. Then they recruited students radicalize them. 340 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:47.519 Now we're talking to even on the third generation now 341 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:51.440 of radicalization. So a lot of these people get so alienated, 342 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:55.720 like everything's fascist, everything's naza, everything's racist. Therefore we have 343 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:58.680 to destroy them. Imagine if we had a chance to 344 00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:01.480 kill Hitler before he created the Third Reich, what a 345 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:03.240 better world this would be. So a lot of these 346 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:06.839 people really believe that they're fighting evil. They've been radicalized. 347 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:10.799 The people in control understand something quite different. They have 348 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:15.279 an ideological cause, which is to overthrow our constitution and 349 00:21:15.359 --> 00:21:18.640 to turn our country into a communist regime. So they're 350 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:21.039 using a lot of people who don't know anything about history, 351 00:21:21.240 --> 00:21:23.359 a lot of very well meeting people, and a lot 352 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:26.119 of just twisted six people who are just messed up 353 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:31.160 in their larger movement to destroy our society from. 354 00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:36.319 Within, Doctor Waller, can you explain that we'll get back 355 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:39.160 to the actual cadres and the makeup of these people 356 00:21:39.200 --> 00:21:43.240 for a moment, Can you explain for a moment what 357 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:47.559 the violence? How does it help them? Not just assassinations. 358 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:51.839 You're blocking ice facilities, You look like a freak. Surely 359 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:55.079 this is going to turn people against your movement. But 360 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:57.880 they've been using these tactics forever, so there has to 361 00:21:57.920 --> 00:21:59.519 be a point. What is the point? 362 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:04.440 There's a really important point to the violence, because violence 363 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:09.640 creates real solidarity. It's kind of like if you're in 364 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:14.039 military combat. You've got buddies who you're going through hell 365 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:16.519 with and you're going to do anything for one another, 366 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:19.079 even if you don't know them from before, and you're 367 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:22.039 always going to have a special identity with them, and 368 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:24.000 for the rest of your life, you're going to identify 369 00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:28.400 with them first. So you have a certain kind of language, 370 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:31.400 certain kind of gestures where everybody kind of understands everybody 371 00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:33.559 else at the expense of those who are not in 372 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:36.599 the know. So it creates the system of what the 373 00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:41.039 communists called cadres. It's called cadre building, and these are 374 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:44.319 the foot soldiers of any revolutionary movement in the case 375 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:46.960 we're talking about here inside the country. So what the 376 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:50.160 violence does here? First, you know, if you get into 377 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:53.839 any crowd mentality, like you get into a good a 378 00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:56.799 good concert, right, there are a lot of people and 379 00:22:56.839 --> 00:22:59.599 it gets rowdy, and you end up doing stuff you 380 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:02.160 ordinate really wouldn't do as an individual because it's wrong 381 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:05.160 and it's stupid, and it's whatever. It's constructive, but it 382 00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:06.799 can be kind of fun when you're in it with 383 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:09.599 everybody else and you're part of it. If you're a 384 00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:12.359 doup or you're jected, it's sort of dragged into it, 385 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:14.599 or even if you came in planning to do it, 386 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:17.680 it's cool, it's exciting. Now you've had an experience, so 387 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:20.799 the next time you go into this you're enthused about it. 388 00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:23.799 And then people see, uh huh, who responded best to this, 389 00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:27.039 who's most aggressive about this, who will do as they're 390 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:30.359 told without question? Who are some of the natural leaders 391 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:33.799 in this? And that's how they they locate and identify 392 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.920 and then end up recruiting hardcore radicals into their movement. 393 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:40.000 So if you look at the way Antifa has been 394 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:43.759 living up in Portland and Seattle and so forth, living 395 00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:47.640 in tense, living in squalor living in sort of commune 396 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:52.200 where everybody shares everything and shares everybody's experiences and lives 397 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:56.039 a very hard life and very harsh weather conditions and 398 00:23:56.480 --> 00:23:59.759 food conditions and health conditions. But there's a solidarity that 399 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:03.119 among them, just like Miles guerrillas did in the mountains, 400 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:06.480 and it's going to be an unbreakable solidarity. So that's 401 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:09.400