Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon, and you're listening to kf
Speaker 1: I A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start calling him Steve not.
Speaker 3: A fan Gary Shannon and Steve.
Speaker 2: Steve is not a fan of much.
Speaker 3: You know what, that's a false mischaracterization.
Speaker 2: I was thinking of you last night.
Speaker 3: I was one four after zucchini.
Speaker 2: I didn't have any more zucchini. Yeah, salmon and spinach
Speaker 2: last night?
Speaker 3: What is that?
Speaker 2: What is that over salmon? What does that mean? Bragging?
Speaker 3: Yes? Really?
Speaker 2: Well? What did you have for dinner?
Speaker 3: Spaghetti with meat sauce?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Meat, It would have been nice anyway. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about you, Steve, because I was watching Whiplash again. Oh
Speaker 1: such a great film. Oh never gets old for me.
Speaker 4: You know what I binged the other day over last
Speaker 4: weekend was Tokyo Swindlers on Netflix.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4: That's a pretty amazing the chap music. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: it's about real estate swindlers.
Speaker 1: That's that was apropos of nothing. I brought up Whiplash
Speaker 1: because you're a band guy. Yeah, but no, I thought
Speaker 1: you were what you watch on Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Were you sorry but whiplash?
Speaker 4: I love whiplash, and I thought it was just that
Speaker 4: was a great homage to to all the bangee oh
Speaker 4: so good.
Speaker 3: Were you rushing or were you dragging? I had teachers
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: Like that. I think I would like to be yelled
Speaker 2: at like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, weirdo. Just to quick Friday guys of our stories
Speaker 3: that were following.
Speaker 5: Today, the US and Russia have made their biggest prisoner
Speaker 5: swap in post Soviet history. Oscar released US journalist Evan
Speaker 5: Gershkovich Michigan corporate security executive Paul Wheelan, along with dissidents
Speaker 5: including Vladimir Kara Murza, in a multi national deal that
Speaker 5: officials say has set two dozen people free.
Speaker 3: They said it was convicted in Germany.
Speaker 5: Of the Russians got back Vadim Krazikov, convicted in Germany
Speaker 5: of killing a former chech and Reba in a park
Speaker 5: in Berlin.
Speaker 4: I think you just love these stories because you like
Speaker 4: to get to say the names. I just love it
Speaker 4: when you say all the names, because I think you
Speaker 4: just love doing that. You love all the foreign names.
Speaker 4: You take such pride to this. Vladimir Kara Murza, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I just think you love saying those. I think it
Speaker 4: would be very boring for you. It's like John Smith
Speaker 4: just came home today on a Russian plane. I don't
Speaker 4: think you'd like that. I think I just thought it was.
Speaker 3: I rushing or was I draft?
Speaker 4: No, you were great, and I just love how you.
Speaker 4: I love how you take great care in pronouncing all
Speaker 4: these names.
Speaker 2: It's not fetish.
Speaker 1: Friday, Steve all right, So, an LAPD officer has been
Speaker 1: under scrutiny for punching a man under arrest during a
Speaker 1: trap stop. You've seen the video. It's been everywhere. The
Speaker 1: guys in handcuffs. Steve Gregory came in here this morning
Speaker 1: says that he has looked at new evidence that show
Speaker 1: the whole story is not being told.
Speaker 5: This is the sound that made its way through social
Speaker 5: media when video was taken from bystanders watching the arrest
Speaker 5: of this guy. So that was the punch, yeah, And
Speaker 5: that starts half a second before the punch.
Speaker 4: And that and that's the perspective and that's the only
Speaker 4: context that everyone got for that incident. LAPD released body
Speaker 4: worn video from both officers that were at that traffic
Speaker 4: stop on July twenty eighth in the South East part
Speaker 4: of Los Angeles, I believe, near the intersection of one
Speaker 4: hundred and thirteenth in Graham Avenue. And what had happened
Speaker 4: was officers noticed this car, this sedan, parked on the
Speaker 4: wrong way on a street with heavily tinted windows, which
Speaker 4: sparks suspicion if a car is parked on the wrong way,
Speaker 4: facing the wrong direction with heavily illegally tinted windows. Officers
Speaker 4: approach and they look in, and initially they didn't think
Speaker 4: anyone was in the car.
Speaker 3: They thought someone just parked it there and ran in
Speaker 3: and got something.
Speaker 4: Now, in this first cut, this is audio from the
Speaker 4: first officer's perspective and the exchange that happened.
Speaker 6: Hey, throw the windows down. You roll the windows down,
Speaker 6: roll the windows down. You're parked in your double parked.
Speaker 6: So was going over your double park, man, and you're
Speaker 6: sitting in the car walk the car.
Speaker 3: You got a license on the.
Speaker 5: Going over?
Speaker 3: I just told you, man, was going on.
Speaker 6: I'm I have an idea on you your double park
Speaker 6: But what does that mean though there's a cut your
Speaker 6: double parking in the street.
Speaker 5: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 3: Youse? I got everything?
Speaker 6: Why license for me?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 3: I do why because you're ignoring me. I didn't ignore it.
Speaker 3: Did you step on the car?
Speaker 2: The car?
Speaker 3: Aren't that?
Speaker 6: Where does the car.
Speaker 5: For?
Speaker 3: What had you down for weapons? Okay?
Speaker 4: So from there it starts to de escalate, or it
Speaker 4: starts to escalate rather and it gets really you know,
Speaker 4: it just it goes on and on.
Speaker 3: That guy just kept saying what did I do? What
Speaker 3: did I do? What did I do?
Speaker 4: He would never provide I d never provide idea And
Speaker 4: it just kept going back and forth. The entire incident
Speaker 4: took about thirty three minutes. So you saw that snapshot
Speaker 4: of a few seconds. Now in this next cut, you're
Speaker 4: gonna hear the moment. You heard the moment there where
Speaker 4: the bystander caught the punch. And then this is the
Speaker 4: audio from the other officers, the second officers perspective.
Speaker 7: Way for yourself, just put your head on, put your
Speaker 7: hands on, your hand on your back.
Speaker 3: That's the punch. Okay.
Speaker 4: Did you hear the click of the handcuffs there right
Speaker 4: toward the end, that's when he was handcuffed.
Speaker 3: Okay, So the he had only had one cuff on the.
Speaker 4: Left hand was cuffed and they had to use two
Speaker 4: pair of handcuffs because a big fellow, because he's.
Speaker 3: Such a big guy.
Speaker 4: Over six two, I believe is what the analysis was,
Speaker 4: and over three hundred and something pounds.
Speaker 1: Because for some reason, the city of Los Angeles sticks
Speaker 1: with the same civil rights activist for twenty five years.
Speaker 2: Nausea Lee. That was his sticking point.
Speaker 1: This young man at his hands behind his back, handcuffed,
Speaker 1: he was not a threat, and and that's when the
Speaker 1: officer punched him in the face for no reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that has been kind of the main point there.
Speaker 3: Steve Gregory has joined us.
Speaker 5: We're talking about this video that has made its way
Speaker 5: around southern Californian and around the country as a matter
Speaker 5: of fact, in an arrest of or an attempted detention
Speaker 5: of twenty eight year old guy Alexander Mitchell, who was
Speaker 5: initially stopped at a traffic stop, or he had been stopped,
Speaker 5: but he was double parked facing the wrong way on
Speaker 5: a street when the officers first approached him. The video
Speaker 5: that made its way around showed one of the officers
Speaker 5: punching this guy while they were trying to handcuff him.
Speaker 5: So you can, with a closed fist punch somebody in
Speaker 5: the face. According to policy. Well, here's how works.
Speaker 4: And in that particular case, if you watch the video,
Speaker 4: how would you characterize the severity of that punch.
Speaker 5: Well, on a guy that's that size, I mean, it'd
Speaker 5: be like it'd be like me punching a bag of wheat, Okay,
Speaker 5: And it didn't appear to have much of an impact,
Speaker 5: although it did stun the guy enough that it's appeared
Speaker 5: that he stopped struggling.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 4: It's called a distraction strike, and that's what the LAPD
Speaker 4: trains for. It's part of the training so that when
Speaker 4: there's a subject that's being detained. And let's make it
Speaker 4: perfectly clear, in the beginning of this incident.
Speaker 2: A compliance punch, Well, it's.
Speaker 3: A distraction strike. You can call it whatever you want.
Speaker 3: Yeah I will.
Speaker 4: But the guy was not under arrest right initially, and
Speaker 4: at the very least they were trying to pat him
Speaker 4: down because of two things. First of all, the car
Speaker 4: was suspicious parked where it was and how it was
Speaker 4: parked with heavily tinted windows in rolling nineties cripshborhoods in
Speaker 4: that territory, so officers know this going in, so they've
Speaker 4: got a little bit of intel when they're walking up
Speaker 4: to a situation like this, There could be anybody in
Speaker 4: that car with a gun. There could be anybody in
Speaker 4: that car who knows and they have to walk up
Speaker 4: to that car very cautiously. So when they determined that
Speaker 4: there was at least one person in there, and they
Speaker 4: ask him to roll his windows down and they wanted
Speaker 4: to get a full view of what's going on, which
Speaker 4: is still legal. Now the argument had been made, well,
Speaker 4: you know, he was racially profiled. How do you racially
Speaker 4: profile somebody when you can't see in the windows. So
Speaker 4: they finally get the guy to come out, and they
Speaker 4: want to pad him down because that is standard operating
Speaker 4: procedure in a case like this, according to officers.
Speaker 3: Why is that?
Speaker 2: Is it because of the neighborhood a potential threat?
Speaker 3: If they've identified a potential threat, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: How would he be identified? And I'm just I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to play Devil's advocate. I'm just I'm curious. How
Speaker 1: would he be labeled as a threat? Is it the
Speaker 1: tinted windows and the initial failure to.
Speaker 3: Comply, that's the beginning of it. And in the area
Speaker 3: that you're at and.
Speaker 2: In the area so it's a right confluence of things exactly.
Speaker 4: And I don't know what was going through that officer's mind,
Speaker 4: and presumably that will come out in the investigation, what
Speaker 4: he was thinking and how far he went. But according
Speaker 4: to everyone I've talked to this far, both on the
Speaker 4: command level and the training level and the LAPD, they
Speaker 4: told me that everything up to that point was being
Speaker 4: followed per protocol. You know, the point of the strike,
Speaker 4: and it was protocol to pat him down and figure
Speaker 4: out what was going on people that are detained, and
Speaker 4: that's the difference between detained and arrested. Detained, you can
Speaker 4: be handcuffed and not arrested. You're handcuffed and detained while
Speaker 4: they figure out if the area is safe and clear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and sometimes they have to check your car for
Speaker 3: weapons or right.
Speaker 4: And they do it in a way where they need
Speaker 4: to be assured that that person's not going to do
Speaker 4: something right. I know it's demeaning and demoralizing to be
Speaker 4: handcuffed when you probably didn't do anything wrong. I get that,
Speaker 4: but that's a society we live in, and that's to
Speaker 4: ensure the safety of the officers and bystanders. Possibly, so
Speaker 4: he was going to be detained initially, and then he
Speaker 4: escalated the situation by being well, as you look on
Speaker 4: the video from the perspective of the body cam, at
Speaker 4: least he's he clearly appears to resist lawful commands.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, and that's that's one of the problems
Speaker 5: we've seen over and over again when a video comes
Speaker 5: out from a bystander, it's often we don't get the
Speaker 5: context is mix is.
Speaker 4: Nothing the lead up to that incident, and then and
Speaker 4: then it exacerbates the situation when a sitting member of
Speaker 4: the LA Police Commission indicts the officer. On the meeting Tuesday,
Speaker 4: a commissioner Klancha said, you know, this was uncalled for,
Speaker 4: and she's already judge and jury without having seen the
Speaker 4: body worn video.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 4: The attorney and the mother of the guy involved has
Speaker 4: a press conference in front of headquarters on Tuesday before
Speaker 4: seeing the body worn video and starts to make all
Speaker 4: kinds of accusations. As Shannon mentioned, Naji Ali, he's already
Speaker 4: you know, piling.
Speaker 3: Onto this thing.
Speaker 4: No one has seen the other side of the story,
Speaker 4: and the mother asserted that the officer that hit her
Speaker 4: son was white. The officer is Hispanic. The other officer
Speaker 4: is African American. So what happened to the officer through
Speaker 4: the punch? He has been taken off of field duty
Speaker 4: as per protocol, and he will he sit me on
Speaker 4: a desk and tell the investigations over force investigation divisions
Speaker 4: looking at.
Speaker 5: Her, you know. Okay, So here's the question is he
Speaker 5: placed on that Is he taken off of field duty
Speaker 5: just because of the situation or is he taken off
Speaker 5: of field duty because someone files a complaint?
Speaker 4: Both because there was a non coutgorical use of force.
Speaker 4: Anytime there's a use of force, you're taken off duty
Speaker 4: like that and tell the investigations complete. So that's standard
Speaker 4: procedure in this case. Obviously there's a complaint being filed
Speaker 4: against him too, so he's going to have to sit
Speaker 4: in the in the bullpen, if you will, until it's adjudicated. Now,
Speaker 4: whether this thing goes and I will tell you this.
Speaker 4: Somebody at command level that I spoke with about this,
Speaker 4: while they characterized it as they felt like it was
Speaker 4: a pretty fair, you know, a fair reaction from officers.
Speaker 4: They also said this would not be the first time
Speaker 4: that officers in the LAPD were thrown under the bus
Speaker 4: by leadership.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So they suspect because it's a political season and other
Speaker 4: things that are going on, they suspect that these officers
Speaker 4: will probably have to fall on the sword.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was just watching some own biles on the beam.
Speaker 2: I get nervous.
Speaker 3: Oh, we sorry to take you away from the Olympics.
Speaker 2: Steve.
Speaker 1: I'm an American. Okay, First of all, you're also a
Speaker 1: talk show host. I'm an American.
Speaker 3: First who thank you for spending time with us, Steve.
Speaker 3: That's enough, no sense?
Speaker 2: Did you want a good story? I want what you
Speaker 2: want it?
Speaker 1: Okay? Do we have any good story music? Or should
Speaker 1: we just not do that? That's about a father and
Speaker 1: a daughter, so probably not. I I don't know what
Speaker 1: their orientation is with the Lord.
Speaker 2: Again, father daughter forgetting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just about something that works.
Speaker 2: And I know it's Christmasy, but it is Christmasy. It's
Speaker 2: kind of feels sacrilegious Christmas in August.
Speaker 1: Okay, a father and see me, Valley gave his daughter
Speaker 1: the gift of a lifetime.
Speaker 2: What did he give her? Was it a pony?
Speaker 5: No, nay, pony, it was his It was dumb. Listen,
Speaker 5: I get accused of a lot of dumb jokes that
Speaker 5: was dumb. Yeah, well, thank you should be.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you called me out on it, because
Speaker 1: if you were just going to let that slip by,
Speaker 1: that's not a real friend.
Speaker 5: I did say something yesterday. My wife said to me,
Speaker 5: you're not old enough to make that joke.
Speaker 7: What was it.
Speaker 3: I'd have to look at it, but I'll say that
Speaker 3: to you as well. You or not, I am not old.
Speaker 2: That's my husband's kind of joke.
Speaker 3: That joke, Okay.
Speaker 2: A father and CV Valley gave his daughter the gift
Speaker 2: of a lifetime.
Speaker 1: When he gave her his free Disneyland ticket from nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty five. It was August of nineteen eighty five when
Speaker 1: Scott King won a free park ticket after visiting the
Speaker 1: Magic Kingdom during its thirtieth anniversary see. As part of
Speaker 1: the celebration, every thirtieth guest received a prize.
Speaker 2: Wow, he said, I forgot all about it. I really
Speaker 2: didn't pay much attention to it over the years.
Speaker 1: Instead of redeeming the prize shortly after, he held onto
Speaker 1: the ticket for thirty nine years, he stuck the free
Speaker 1: ticket in a scrapbook. Forgot about it until now, he said.
Speaker 1: My daughter decided she wanted to go to Disneyland with
Speaker 1: her boyfriend. She was telling me how expensive it was
Speaker 1: and everything. I said, you know, I have a ticket.
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can grab it. So he
Speaker 1: goes into the garage. Scott does and goes through all
Speaker 1: the boxes and all the albums and things, and he
Speaker 1: finds the album where he had put the golden ticket,
Speaker 1: and there it was sitting in one of the old
Speaker 1: scrap books.
Speaker 2: But the problem is is this ticket was from nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty five.
Speaker 1: The price of admission to Disneyland in nineteen eighty five
Speaker 1: was just sixteen dollars and fifty cents.
Speaker 2: That's not that long ago.
Speaker 1: That was the first year I went to Disneyland eighty five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sixteen dollars and fifty cents. Today the price is start
Speaker 1: at roughly one hundred dollars sixteen fIF However, when she
Speaker 1: took the ticket from nineteen eighty five face value sixteen
Speaker 1: dollars and fifty cents to Disneyland in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: Disneyland honored it.
Speaker 3: Good for them, What a.
Speaker 1: Great story, you know, what a smart move by Disneyland.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if you didn't honor it, how short sighted
Speaker 1: would that be? You're trying to make up eighty bucks,
Speaker 1: eighty five bucks, something like that, instead of having the
Speaker 1: good publicity that this is.
Speaker 5: There was a of course, I mean ABC seven did
Speaker 5: the story. Yeah, owned by Disney.
Speaker 3: Oh I see not saying that it's not it's still
Speaker 3: a good story.
Speaker 1: I don't know what news we have one good news
Speaker 1: story and you have to go crap.
Speaker 3: All over it. There is a corporate thread that kind
Speaker 3: of runs through that.
Speaker 2: You can why can't we have something nice?
Speaker 5: I believe that I also have free tickets to Disneyland somewhere.
Speaker 2: Well, now they're not going to honor it because of
Speaker 2: what you've said.
Speaker 3: They don't know that they why would they not have
Speaker 3: They're going to.
Speaker 2: Say, we heard what you said. They're at the gate
Speaker 2: to do something nice.
Speaker 3: They do not check me at the gate.
Speaker 5: But it was the reason that we got these tickets was,
Speaker 5: and I've told this story before, my wife and I
Speaker 5: went before we were married. We drove from northern California.
Speaker 5: It was going to be a big trip for us,
Speaker 5: a first time, like to drive that long together. And
Speaker 5: we're staying with her family members down in Tustin and
Speaker 5: we go to Disneyland on a Friday, maybe Saturday, one
Speaker 5: of the It was a weekend.
Speaker 3: Day though, and it was very busy. It was June.
Speaker 5: It was also very hot, and we just were standing
Speaker 5: in line. We're not riding any rides, right, and there's
Speaker 5: nothing fun about it. We're sweating, we're making soup like
Speaker 5: none of it was good. And we finally decided we're
Speaker 5: going to leave. So we get it's maybe three o'clock
Speaker 5: in the afternoon. We're going to go back to her
Speaker 5: cousin's house and swim in the pool or something, something relaxing,
Speaker 5: we know what. Before we go, she says, I'm going
Speaker 5: to stop by Disney City Hall. Why because I'm going
Speaker 5: to tell them this is not safe. There's too many
Speaker 5: people here. Fire marshalls should be told. We could probably
Speaker 5: just go No, no, we're going to go to city Hall.
Speaker 5: So we go into City Hall you know where that
Speaker 5: is before you leave, and we walk in and she's like, listen,
Speaker 5: we spent a lot of money. We drove a long time.
Speaker 5: This is awful. This is really really bad. There's way
Speaker 5: too many people walking through people's parts. I'm getting people's
Speaker 5: strollers in my ankles all day long. This is really awful.
Speaker 5: You've let too many people into Disneyland. The beautiful cast
Speaker 5: member was so nice. I'm sure she'd heard it a
Speaker 5: dozen times by that point. She says, we're really sorry
Speaker 5: that you haven't had a great day. And here's what
Speaker 5: we're gonna do. We're gonna give you two free passes
Speaker 5: that you can use anytime in the calendar year. Come
Speaker 5: back anytime on us, and we hope that next time
Speaker 5: is better. Okay, Oh that was nice because they were expensive. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 5: she said. The only catch is that you have to
Speaker 5: leave the park like you can't do this and then
Speaker 5: just get free tickets and go back into the park.
Speaker 3: And we're like, that's fine. We're on our way out anyway,
Speaker 3: so she says.
Speaker 5: She beckons over another cast member, a guy named Frankie,
Speaker 5: and says to Frankie, could you please they didn't have
Speaker 5: the greatest time, you know, and whatever escort them out.
Speaker 5: So he's walking with us, and he's a really nice guy,
Speaker 5: and he continue the whole I'm really sorry it wasn't great,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: I I hope you come back. I hope this doesn't
Speaker 3: taint your memories of Disneyland.
Speaker 5: And as we're standing there, my wife's still pretty hot
Speaker 5: about this, sure. And she's standing in front of me,
Speaker 5: facing Frankie, who's facing the two of us, so I'm
Speaker 5: behind her, and she goes, you know what, they say
Speaker 5: that Disneyland's the happiest place on earth, but today it's
Speaker 5: not wow.
Speaker 2: And that's like, that's like lapd punching Frankie in the head.
Speaker 5: I'm standing behind her, trying not to laugh, holding my
Speaker 5: hands in front of my face, trying not to laugh
Speaker 5: because I could tell for her tone of voice.
Speaker 2: I could tell she was serious and trying to be
Speaker 2: a joke. And Frankie's looking at her like, is that
Speaker 2: are you crazy, lady?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 5: And he's like, well again, I'm really sorry. She got
Speaker 5: two steps out of the gate and then went, oh
Speaker 5: my god, what did I just say? I know, and
Speaker 5: I said, I started laughing, and I said, this will
Speaker 5: never die and this story will never have is wonderful.
Speaker 2: That is wonderful. But whatever, use those a wonderful gesture.
Speaker 2: They're probably still good.
Speaker 3: What I is any indication When.
Speaker 1: I was arrested at Disneyland and taken to the jail
Speaker 1: cell there and left there for a few hours. Upon
Speaker 1: my escorting out of the park, they told me I
Speaker 1: was banned from Disneyland, and the feel good story there
Speaker 1: is I went back several times, repeatedly, despite the fact
Speaker 1: they had your picture, on the fact that I am banned,
Speaker 1: so they let me back in as well. You know,
Speaker 1: great stories about Disney All Around.
Speaker 5: We've had on in the studio, And here the Olympics
Speaker 5: that are going on. They're doing the women's all around
Speaker 5: individual all around where instead of the team, each gymnast
Speaker 5: gets to do the four apparat high and then they
Speaker 5: get the gold medal. This is the one that Sunny
Speaker 5: Lee won in Tokyo a couple of years ago. Simone
Speaker 5: Biles apparently in the lead right now, after three rotations,
Speaker 5: sunny Lee.
Speaker 2: Is separated tied for four by a tenth of a
Speaker 2: percentage point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good. That's good and close. And then the
Speaker 5: last I believe is the floor exercise.
Speaker 1: I just watch and I take it all in and
Speaker 1: then they tell me who wins. I don't try to
Speaker 1: figure it out.
Speaker 5: There is a woman from Santa Monica, Vivian Robinson, who
Speaker 5: has attended seven Summer Olympic Games over the span of
Speaker 5: forty years. This this one, this is pretty expensive. They said,
Speaker 5: it's about a ten thousand dollars ticket for sixty six
Speaker 5: year old Vivian to go to Santa Monica, soid she
Speaker 5: maxed out her credit cards, worked a couple of jobs
Speaker 5: to afford the trip and the thirty eight event tickets
Speaker 5: that she purchased.
Speaker 1: Did you hear about this this gender issue that's going on.
Speaker 1: There's an Italian woman boxer who's now speaking out. She
Speaker 1: quit her Olympic bout against a boxer who previously failed
Speaker 1: gender eligibility tests. Angela Cararini is the Italian female boxer
Speaker 1: who says she was not making a political statement when
Speaker 1: she quit forty six seconds into the match. She was
Speaker 1: not refusing to fight the person who failed the gender
Speaker 1: eligibility test, person by the name of Amman Calif from Algeria.
Speaker 1: The Italian Angela said she quit because of the pain
Speaker 1: she felt from the initial punches, because when a man
Speaker 1: is punching you in the face, it hurts.
Speaker 5: The Algerian boxer landed one great hit square on her face,
Speaker 5: and even if they're wearing headgear in Olympic boxing, she
Speaker 5: said it felt like her nose broke and she was
Speaker 5: angry about it. She actually very tearful video that she
Speaker 5: made with reporters afterwards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's talking about.
Speaker 5: How she promised her late father that she would never
Speaker 5: give up, that she didn't do well in Tokyo, that
Speaker 5: she was in pain, she was tired, and she had
Speaker 5: a really hard time training, but that she would never
Speaker 5: give up and she was going to go back into
Speaker 5: the Olympics, of which she did obviously. Again, when I
Speaker 5: saw a couple of tweets about the Olympics allowing men
Speaker 5: to box women, the community notes were saying that the
Speaker 5: videos that were being posted were actually from previous years.
Speaker 5: It wasn't even because boxing hadn't even started when I
Speaker 5: saw some of those. But this boxer from Algeria, like
Speaker 5: you said, was not allowed to compete internationally.
Speaker 1: She had been banned by the International Amateur Boxing League
Speaker 1: because she failed testosterone and gender eligibility tests. Chinese Taipei's
Speaker 1: lin U Ting also previously failed the gender eligibility tests
Speaker 1: and will be competing at the Olympics on Friday. How
Speaker 1: come you can fail these and then be an Olympian,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: So there's something about the body that was in charge
Speaker 5: of the international competitions, not the International Olympic Committee, but
Speaker 5: the boxing, International Boxing. I don't know what it is
Speaker 5: that their test was, do you have an X Y
Speaker 5: chromosome or do you have two X chromosomes? And if
Speaker 5: you had the X Y you would not be allowed
Speaker 5: to compete because boy, But if there's also something about
Speaker 5: the level of testosterone that existed in the body, and
Speaker 5: I don't know if there are other things that they
Speaker 5: do to you know, what is that pull the shorts
Speaker 5: down and say what do you got there? Oh?
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's part of the test.
Speaker 2: That sounds like it would be too intrusive to have
Speaker 2: to show your genitals, But at the.
Speaker 3: Same time, at the same time, wouldn't I it doesn't
Speaker 3: always answer the questions like you come to.
Speaker 1: Work and it would be inappropriate for Robin to say,
Speaker 1: take off your pants, let me see what you're working with.
Speaker 3: But also that there's not a requirement for me to
Speaker 3: have that to work here, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying it's improper to have to show
Speaker 1: your genitals to be able to do your job.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but in the event that your gender is going
Speaker 5: to change when you go to fantasy camp, yeah, which
Speaker 5: is all men?
Speaker 2: No, Oh, it's not.
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, what are you sexist women can't play baseball.
Speaker 5: There were out of a ninety plus campers last time,
Speaker 5: I think there were three women and they could. Yeah,
Speaker 5: they could all play. I bet that is not a
Speaker 5: that's a self selecting group and they know what they're doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Is that the end of the day.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll go along to fantasy camp this year. That
Speaker 2: would be fun.
Speaker 3: I doubt it. You can stay at the resort, you
Speaker 3: can just stay there. Say anything.
Speaker 1: Don't say anything. Now I can't even speak.
Speaker 3: That's probably better.
Speaker 2: I can't play or speak.
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