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Speaker 2: What's going on? Guys? Welcome in to another day of TV.
And I hope you're all having a wonderful day.
Speaker 3: And I think we're gonna have a wonderful day here
on off the bench.
Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, January fifteenth, twenty twenty five January, rolling
right along.
Speaker 3: And we are glad to be here with you. Come up,
biball wins like talking about last night? How about it?
Lsu the boot basketball back. We'll get to all of it.
Speaker 2: Uh, Jake, what's up man? How you doing today? To Jake?
To Jake, to Jake, we go Jakey wakey, eggs and Baky.
Speaker 4: We got a laundry b n A L.
Speaker 2: And Tiler's ship here as well. Uh what's up man?
Speaker 5: We go with the slick bag look today, have a
hat right, gotta I gotta let the hairstart to uh
loosen up a little bit.
Speaker 3: Here, shout out Jeb Willy, watch you boys from speed Well, Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Through and eight through and great, I'll have to show
keep up the great work. Hell yeah, Jeb. The Brady
Kane comments about not name Branke Kelly a little crazy.
I don't know if I saw this. I have seen
coach Kelly.
Speaker 6: He said that really yeah, he was like the Kelly
comments may be mad when he said we didn't have
the resources or the money to compete. So I have
personally made it my mission to get all this money
put together. And I'm like, okay, but like if you
did have all that money put together, like Kelly was right,
you didn't have the you didn't have the money, you
didn't have the resources.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I guess if you want to really
argue from it, like a semantics standpoint, if the if
if Brady Quinn manages to get the money together, then
the money was there. So yes, they may not have
had it, but they had the potential to have it.
Tour Is it everybody just right?
Speaker 2: I I don't know. It is interesting seeing Kelly start to.
Speaker 3: Get involved in the narrative of did you see us
sit down with Brandon Marcelo on three where they said, look,
I never I never left Notre Dames. I thought I
couldn't win championships there. I left Notre Dame to want
a different challenge, which, you know, again, it's it's a
deal where I don't think the words were ever uttered forthwith,
Is that right?
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Kelly never ever said like I
cannot win a championship at Notre Dame. So it's probably
a true statement with the spin zone that's going on now,
but it is a situation where like we all understood
what was being said, right, even if even if it
wasn't explicitly stated.
Speaker 2: But we'll get into all this. Jake, what's up, dude,
how are we doing this morning? I'm doing great. I'm
doing great. It's Wednesday, flint In.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Flenn's in, Bobby's coming on the show later, her
favorite guys. Excited about the show, starting to get you know,
excited about heading to Atlanta and going to the Natty
coming up here in a couple of days, so almost
almost a finish line for my college football season.
Speaker 2: Excited to get there. But also you know what, we've
we've run our course.
Speaker 5: I don't think i've been home one weekend since Yeah,
November thirtieth, So.
Speaker 2: A lger, what's up with you girl? How you doing?
I'm doing great halfway through the week.
Speaker 3: What since November thirtieth? That just took me second to process.
It's crazy, I know.
Speaker 2: And it feels like it November feels like it just
happened and it didn't like it was. Christmas season is
so fun that it does tend to Yeah, but yeah,
all good.
Speaker 3: Did the Kim Olkey Show last night, so I got
to hear from our fave twice yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the best. So, uh, could you have on
the dock this morning? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Thank you somebody forgot to send it. No big deal
there anything. Uh, we're not gonna call out who it was,
but there's a chance it was T Bob doing really good. No, guys,
I'm totally kidding. It's not the big of a deal.
Like shut up doing really good today?
Speaker 2: To shut up? Don't talk for a segment.
Speaker 3: Please, I don't have to say please, actually, don't talk,
best segment turn off his Mike.
Speaker 2: Lund to a great start this morning. Uh.
Speaker 3: So Coach Kelly did sit down with h Brandon Marcelo
von three and he made it very clear who was
rooting for and uh no, no, no surprises the Irish saying, quote,
I'm happy for all those guys I pulled for them.
A lot of the guys there that are on both
sides of the ball I recruited. Obviously, I want to
see those guys win it all. I think they're in
a great position. Totally sighted for those guys. And then
he was asked about the idea that people are out
there saying that he left not name because he thought
they went and couldn't win a championship, and I said, quote,
they're selling it the way they want to sell it.
Speaker 2: Why do you leave Notre Dame. You leave Notre Dame
because you're taking another challenge. I took Notre Dame to championships.
It's just the way you want to twist it. You
only leave Notre Dame to go win a championship. I
wasn't leaving Notre Dame because I couldn't win a championship.
You can win championships at Notre Dame. But I chose
another path because I wanted a different challenge. Oh yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Don't agree, but I see why that is what said.
And to be completely fair, if I was in those shoes,
I could convince myself that that is why I left. So,
like if I was listening to me T Bob on
this show say I don't agree or whatever, and I'm like, oh,
well that doesn't know anything. I know me, I'm me,
and I did leave for that reason. And so I'm
sure I could even convince myself of that. I still
maintain that he felt there was a ceiling there now
was kind of.
Speaker 2: I mean, was this technically pre in il Yeah, yeah, right, yeah,
I mean it was a switch. So we're talking about
maybe year one of it.
Speaker 5: Year one, so we're talking about the beginning stages of it,
and we're also talking about the transfer portal looking you know,
completely different now than it did, and so it's not
the same set of rules that it was. I think
Notre Dame has done a great job of getting veteran
players through the portal, guys that have graduated to add
to their team, and you know, they just there's some
players on that team this year that they've never really had.
In my opinion, when you watch the team, there's some
players that are going to be pros Sunday players that
you know, maybe they don't start at Notre Dame in
the years that we had it, you know before in
il and transfer portal, but now they can.
Speaker 2: Get a player like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess they'll only bring it up
because I think that you probably do leave Notre Dame
when coach Kelly left because you feel like there is
a bit of a ceiling on you. Only that ceiling
was under the old rules, and that Notre Dame appears
to be one of the beneficiaries of the newer sets
of rules, and that I mean, obviously they're gonna have
a lot of money with which you can pull, if
you can rally investors and whatnot. But also like it's
all the places Jake that people would argue are maybe
and I think they might have reduced some of the
academic standards, but it's all the places where people want
to argue that, like, oh it's hard to recruit there.
Speaker 2: It's hard to recruit there.
Speaker 3: Well, all of a sudden, yeah, you may not want
to go to Lincoln, Nebraska, but if I'm gonna pay
you enough money, you will. I'm gonna pay you enough
money you will go here. So it's like Notre Dame
seems to and a lot of that's Marcus Freeman and
him being a great coaching, him being very likable and
cool and being able to convince guys to come. Absolutely,
but certainly I think the potential of Notre Dame when
Kelly left has changed drastically in this new era. And
I mean you look at things like blue chip ratio
dig they're right there in the top ten with everybody else,
so like just from a pure talent standpoint, they have
as much pure talent as anybody else.
Speaker 2: So I forgot about blue chip ratio.
Speaker 3: It could be a well, I mean, you know, whoever wins,
it will once again be the fifty percent threshold.
Speaker 2: Washington would have been.
Speaker 3: The Washington was maybe the greatest hope for breaking that streak.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so I get.
Speaker 3: I guess it's simply that when Kelly lean, just the
situation now, the environment, the sport, the context is so
much different when it was than when he left. And
so yes, this spin zone I understand, because yeah, I
mean you almost have.
Speaker 2: To now it just want me.
Speaker 3: He did go to championship set Notre Dame, but you
just kind of felt like you couldn't break through.
Speaker 5: So you know, was something that was in place, but
less than I act like nil then and nil now
is the same thing, collectives and different things, and paying
high school players twelve million dollars and paying quarterbacks that
are maybe maybe professional quarterbacks four million dollars per year
that wasn't in place at that time. There also, there
wasn't a twelve team playoff at that time. It was
a four team playoff, and so the math has changed
on that. And now I can also give Marcus Freeman
in Notre Dame a ton of credit. It's a really
good football team and they have done a really nice
job of what they currently have of putting that team together.
And Mike Denbrock and Al Golden as the coordinators have
done a hell of a job putting game plans together
to find a way. And so you know, there's a
little bit of things on both sides that can certainly
be true.
Speaker 3: Mark Comby says, Quinn basically said with Kelly said, no
Dame needed money didn't come to after Kelly left. So
that is another thing that we've seen a few times,
even here a few weeks ago at LSU, which is
sometimes you have to have something that goes wrong or
makes you angry to become the catalyst for change and
for action and So when Kelly breaks up with you
in this way, when you're rolling and you're doing great,
and he says, look again, I just I don't think
I could.
Speaker 2: Do it here.
Speaker 3: I need to go to a place that I know
can do it. Well, all of a sudden, it says, Okay, well,
oh we can pay it. Okay, Well we're gonna, We're gonna.
This is going to be the rallying cry. We are
going to prove you wrong. We're getting in the gym,
We're getting snatched to prove you wrong for leaving us behind.
And is it any different than what els you just
did with Bryce Underwood, where Larry Ellison rolls in snags
Bryce Underwood. Kelly has a very open plate. Look, we
need more grassroots funding. I'll do a million dove match.
You know, other guy, I'll do a million Nive match.
All of a sudden, LSU has more grassroots funning than
anybody in the country, and they have a number one
transfer portal class the entire country. So like, yeah, these
things have funny silver lining effects. Sometimes hell half no fury,
like a college football booster based Spern And we've seen
it in a couple of different instances, right, here, and also.
Speaker 5: We need to add that if Notre Dame does not win,
they'll be at the same point that BK had them at,
playing for a national championship but not winning it.
Speaker 3: And it absolutely sucks because I actually really love this
Notre Dame team. They're a team that is the whole
is greater than some of its parts. They're nameless, faceless,
They've overcome an astronomical amount of injuries, but their path
to winning the game seems significantly narrower than does Ohio State.
You can feel the Buck guys winning this game potentially
in a couple of different ways. Where Notre Dame's path is.
It's it's just like I said, it's more finite, it's
a bit more ball controlling great defense. Well, we can
get into it national championship preview a bit later in
the show, but it would be I mean, it would
be a great sports story if this Notre Dame team
that again is kind of nameless, faceless, injured to all hell,
was able to stand up to a Buck Guys team
that is essentially fully healthy, a twenty million dollar roster,
and the team from the beginning of the year that
everybody said is the most talented team in the entire country.
Speaker 2: It's got a little bit of a of a little
giants versus cowboys feel, you know, but imagine the toilet
papers have all soaring through the Airspike, Oh absolutely, yeah.
Has there ever been a more Spike than Jack Sawyer?
Speaker 5: Bobby but all the same, Bobby aj Hawk, all the same. Yeah, right,
he just Rabril, he's you know, right there with him.
He was a buck eye. Who's Bobby? Why am I blaking?
Who's Bobby Hostwood Slakes? Yeah, an NFL linebacker from the state.
It's got a bunch of the staff now, uh yeah,
so you're right, Spike. Uh, this is this is Little
Giants and you know they won in that movie.
Speaker 2: But this is real.
Speaker 5: Look, I Marcus Freeman is a great human being. I
really like Marcus Freeman. And I know there's a lot
of people maybe around here that don't want Notre Dame
to win. Marcus Freeman has done the impossible nationally. He's
made Notre Dame a lovable underdog.
Speaker 2: True, how how do we get here? How did we
get here?
Speaker 5: Like I'm covering these games tea and there's people like
that have no dog in the fight, rooting for Notre Dame,
and I never thought that I would see the day now.
Speaker 2: I have no real animus towards Notre Dame. So I'm
not a great example in this case because didn't start
out hating them or anything. But I've never liked them
either particularly, and I really kind of found myself cheered
except for Indiana game.
Speaker 3: You know, I was roll with the Hoosiers, but outside,
I mean, I found myself cheering for them, And I
think part of that was because there was sort of
maybe some national bias around not fully appreciating how good
this roster and team is, thinking it might be like
Notre Dame teams of the past that altiately the biggest
stage is going to show up to appear flawed, and
even if they end up losing badly to Ohio State,
that's still not that you're just running to a team
that's just too good and playing too good.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know, I mean, I I don't know.
Speaker 3: Notre Dame has always been in school that inspires a
lot of opinion and emotion one way or another, Like
I always do something like my grandfather kind of.
Speaker 2: Liked Notre Dame because they were Catholic.
Speaker 3: Anything else kind of hated them because else you lost
them a couple of times. I think one time back
of the day where like I don't think they called
the single flag Notre Dame. I don't know why I
remember that. So it's it's it's it's mixed back. But
for me, I that that's who. That's who I would
like to see when. But that's just because the underdog.
I'm gonna cheer bet of a dog in the fight.
I am almost ten times out of ten going to
cheer for the underdog.
Speaker 2: You I mean, I mean the blue chip ratio guy though.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, no, not not doing the stance again to
not doing the stance again.
Speaker 2: I think I do think the numbers eight and a half.
Speaker 5: I do think Notre Dame covers Ohio State wins.
Speaker 3: Well, look, we'll get we'll get into let's let's get
into a national championship preview a bit later, and we
got Bobby Carpenter coming up, uh coming up next, we
get into a couple of these basketball results and some
news out of the college football front that could change
some of that current fabric of college football.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the best morning sports show around sort of.
It's off the bench with Hester and t Bob.
Speaker 2: A lot of Rudy talk going down to the chat here.
Speaker 3: He's he's a Rudy is an a hole from what
I've heard and read about him.
Speaker 2: We met old Rudy Rudiger, remember that bowl. Yeah, he
was a walk he was like walk on the restaurant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were working with he was working with Brandon
Landry and them, you know, being you know obviously kind.
Speaker 2: Of the walk on the walk on.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I thought he was great.
Speaker 3: Granted, that's a publicity situation in which you better be great, right, Like,
you can't walk around with those junk hits acting like
an a hole. But I I had no, I have
nothing but had to say about the man. I also
loved that movie. Somebody said, wait, isn't Rudy also in
Lord of the Rings. Yes, Sean Aston, it was okay,
you know, like Rudy the movie.
Speaker 2: Sorry, fifty dates to.
Speaker 3: Good good poll hundred because Sean Aston has.
Speaker 2: Incredibly high highs.
Speaker 3: Right, Mikey from the Goonies, Rudy another interesting poll there.
I was gonna go, uh, Samwise gamgee and then yes
and then like his his steroids out list brother in
fifty first.
Speaker 2: Date, It's excellent.
Speaker 3: Stranger I was gonna say, and then eventually comes into
Stranger Things is Bob but yeah, and Sino Man in
fifty first dates. Not normally the roles that get named.
So I'm proud of Uh yeah, I don't think I've
seen in Man. Yeah, since like I don't know, I was,
Uh do.
Speaker 2: You really don't think Rudy's a good movie?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 2: All right? Oh? I know, you just you just want
to move about the five Star I get it. That
makes sense. That kind of checks out.
Speaker 4: I think suck.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think. I mean, I just don't. You know,
it's not like in my top tier of sports movies.
It's okay, you didn't write the movie.
Speaker 2: T oh, no, I know, no, no, I know, but
you know me classic like Underdog, walk On, grit, hard work, guy.
Speaker 3: You five Stars is a different star. You're Ivan Drago,
I'm Rocky. I get it.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: There's a difference between working really hard in Charlie Hustle
in High School, Harry, and then just being gritty.
Speaker 2: There's a difference.
Speaker 3: So what you are intimating is that Rudy is Charlie
Hussell in high school Harry.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, come on now, dude, he works his ass off.
You don't just get you know me, walk on to
You gotta work your ass off to be on these
let you out for free, you know, Chris Dory, they
don't let you go. Well, yeah, because Chris was under recruited.
Chris was a every now and then you get a
dive in a rough way. Oh wait, this guy's actually
an NFL player and somehow none of us saw it.
Speaker 2: Can't gross six Chris has the body of a god.
Just tell I'm not walking oh man, Charlie hustle, Wow,
unbelievable A two JK. That's what That's what the great
crowds saying to. You know.
Speaker 5: Now, I think a lot of I think a lot
of people that actually like have the grit, like the
ultimate grit.
Speaker 2: I think they'd agree with me.
Speaker 4: How long is the movie Rudy? Pretty long?
Speaker 2: Right? Too long?
Speaker 6: I just think that it is too long for how
little actually happens in the movie. That's why I don't
like it. Like it's just not that much happens. It's
kind of boring at times.
Speaker 2: Case he says, who's the best walk on ever? Clay Matthews,
Baker Mayfield, probably Baker and he walked on twice. Gotta
be you, gotta be, gotta be Baker. I don't have
an opinion on Rudy. I've never seen it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, judging on your brown nosing tendencies, you'd probably be
piling on with Jake and Tate here, you know, just
out here.
Speaker 2: Alone, just swimming upstream.
Speaker 5: Daniel Snow, what's the difference between working hard and Charlie Hustle.
Working hard is you do it in the night. You
don't care who sees you. In fact, if nobody sees you,
it doesn't really matter. That's not why you're doing it.
You're working hard because it's in your DNA. You're too
gritty to be pretty. Charlie Hustle is let me, I
hustle to see if the coach is watching. Let me
see who notices I post my workouts at six am.
Let me notice, you know, let everybody notice that. I'm hey,
look at me. Here's the video of me running the
stadium stairs. That's Charlie Hustle. The other guy's just working
his ass off.
Speaker 6: Oh so, Charlie Hustles the type of guy like Rudy
who threatened to quit. I think two different times in
that movie he did a true, true, a true walk.
Speaker 3: I would argue the guy that worked in the steel
mill and then was working the grounds just to have
access to practice away from the public eye in the
darker knight would be pretty.
Speaker 2: They want to make sure that so working hard.
Speaker 4: But even that, remember he was even that good at it.
His dad was Mags. The other brothers were better at
the steel mill than he was.
Speaker 2: He wasn't even good at quit.
Speaker 3: I don't know what what well, I don't know what
motivations have led this segment and y'all to taking such
a hard anti stance.
Speaker 2: But no, not the man. I don't know the man.
M all right, Uh to eat zero and I suppose
nobody's immune for bad takes sad to see, sad to see.
I mean, you know, it's not sad to see.
Speaker 3: A couple of wins on the hardcore guys, how about it.
LSU basketball gets its first SEC win, taking down Caliparies Hogs,
and the Pelicans take down Chicago Bulls. So LSU in
the PMAC last night actually beats Arkansas for a third
straight time in the p MAC, winning seventy eight to
seventy four. Arkansas and the Calipari era guys kind of
off to a disastrous start here eleven and six overall
zero to four in the SEC, giving LSU their first
SEC win. Cam Carter is awesome, he drops twenty seven.
Really this story of the game to me, it's at
the free throw line. LSU twenty six of twenty eight
in a four point game, including six of six down
the stretch to hold off any potential of an Arkansas
run at the end. So credit to Mattmaman's Tigers Man.
We said it here in this early porter season where
you are playing so many ROW games and so many
of the best teams in the SEC, you had to
win this game against a founder in Arkansas in the
PMAC and they got it done.
Speaker 5: Yeah in Arkansas's now zero to four in the SEC,
And so we're not talking about you beating world beaters,
but you were looking for your first win as well,
and so T's right you had to have this victory.
And last year you didn't start conference play on your
best foot. I believe you started one in three just
like you are right now, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: So you finished for the five hundred record in conference play.
Speaker 5: Now I'm not saying this team is going to do
that because now Arkansas is in the last place in
the SEC. But you did start off poorly last year
in conference play and found a way to really hit
a hot streak and again finish five hundred. Because with
what you did in the non CONN, if you finished
five hundred in league play this year, then you're probably,
you know, on the verge of being in that large team, right, So.
Speaker 2: A long way to go.
Speaker 5: A lot of teams in front of them that are
going to be better than Arkansas. But even like against
Ole Miss wh eat Alabama last night on the road,
last game out, there was moments where you look like
you belong.
Speaker 2: So now you got to come back.
Speaker 5: You got to go right back on the road against
A and M, against Alabama, against number one Auburn at home.
Speaker 2: I realize that.
Speaker 5: But as much as any SEC schedule could air quotes
here lighting up, it does after that.
Speaker 2: So you just got to weather this storm. That's why
this one was so important.
Speaker 3: When it comes to men's basketball, Do y'all feel a
bit like the squid word beam where he's looking outside
his house and SpongeBob Patrick or running around having so
much fun Because like I see my group text like
talking in this me and the Alabama fits right.
Speaker 2: But I see my group text like talking SEC basketball trash,
like what I wake up and I see Mincy tweeting
about the Chris Beard era of Old Miss and what
an amazing win and all this sort of stuff, And
I'm just.
Speaker 4: Over here like, okay, you're like, this is el Vanderbiltfield's there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like whin's Win's baseball? We uh we we we
we a month away? Now, when's the next women's basketball game?
It is a bit, it has a bit.
Speaker 3: It's a bit of an odd feeling where a lot
of the teams that ls you directly in the in
the SEC West, the old SEC West. You're the fan
base we can pee with. All these other ones are
like you know, they're all top ten and they all
really care now. And it's kind of sitting here like, okay,
good Win, good Win. Do you ever feel left out
though for basketball talk or do you not care?
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I mean. I'm probably the
least college basketball fan in this entire round.
Speaker 5: So that's what I was about to say. I really
enjoy college basketball. And as soon as this game is
over on Monday, like my afternoon show will switch to heavy, heavy, basketball,
and so I get my fix, you know, like I
feel like I get to be a part because of that.
But I understand we're saying about LSU and everybody else
is like all these football schools are awesome right now
in basketball, and look, you've been one of those teams
right not that long ago, and you remember what it
feels like. So yeah, like you see everybody else out
there celebrating and you're just like happy that you beat Arkansas.
Speaker 2: When we get back, you'll touch of the Pelicans real cake.
Speaker 3: And then we'll get into a unanimous vote that was
undertaken by college football coaches that could drastically change.
Speaker 2: The college football schedule and makeup of the current seentings. Ah,
I don't know how to say it.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to more sports talk. What's some other stuff
mixed in off the bench with Hester Anti Bob.
Speaker 2: What's going on? I was just about to say the
same thing. Actually, are you I actually know I swear
to Okay, I didn't say that. I said. I didn't
say it on air, so you're just talking. I said
it in your ear. We used to do a lot.
Speaker 4: I whispered it at.
Speaker 2: My rigid like you know coming up in radio. We
don't do much of that here like the production in
the just in the ear, I don't really have to
for the most part. No, I agree, yeah, because we're
very collaborati. Everybody talks. Did this thing started, It's time
to get somewhere until you cut them off the upside,
Sabby Wall, I'm just tying in. Then I heard it.
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Speaker 3: All right, So I did want to touch on the
Pelicans real quick last night, and I'm not gonna spend
long here. Pelicans beat the Bulls guys one nineteen one
thirteen Zion Williams in just twenty four minutes, twenty one
point seven boards, nine assists, one block.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is insane when he plays.
Speaker 3: How good he is doesn't even matter because it's the
back to back tonight, so he's not gonna play.
Speaker 2: Probably not. Trey Murphy dropped thirty two last night, pretty
impressive considering he was just two or thirteen from three.
Speaker 3: Uh, he finishes twelve to twelve. The line, here's a
little nugget, he's made forty three free throws in a row. Jake,
he broke, who's Who's Pelicans team record?
Speaker 2: I think it is. It's a random it's kind of random. Aja. No, afterwards,
you might like, Okay, this guy was a shooter, but
I doubt you're gonna pull his name. Big guy, A
big guy, shooter, stretch shooter, David West. No. After that, Oh,
I don't know how big he's tall.
Speaker 3: I mean he was, he was like.
Speaker 2: He was a four.
Speaker 4: Oh, he's a four.
Speaker 6: I was gonna guess Marco Bellnelli, but it ain't him obviously.
Speaker 2: Ryan Anderson, Yeah, how about it. I did not think
you were going to be able to pull that. Yeah.
Ryan anders had made forty two. So now, Trey Murphy
your franchise. No, I know you nailed it.
Speaker 3: I did not expect that good good job, good get
You know what kind of sucks? Uh uh, well, it
doesn't suck. Pelican's two to one, the current road trip again.
Speaker 2: What have you done for you lately? But messed up
their draft choice some some of the reasons.
Speaker 3: And I like to go too far with this because
this is another thing where it's like, it's kind of
like Star Wars and of these other things where when
you engage in the criticism, you get pigeonholed into other
you get bummled in with a bunch of other criticisms
that I don't agree with. But I think the NBA,
as much as I love it, the over reliance on
threes is a turnoff at times, just frankly, and look
at these stats from last night. The Pelicans go fourteen
of fifty and the Bulls go fourteen of forty three.
I mean, you could have built a tash mahal with
that game last night.
Speaker 5: So ninety three threes between the two teams and they
only made twenty eight. But just think about watching an
NBA game ninety three pointers.
Speaker 3: It is gross modern NBA work here, Just go down
the court jacket up, you go down the court jacket up,
go down the cart jacket up.
Speaker 2: See what happens.
Speaker 3: Twenty eight percent for the Pels, thirty two the Bulls.
So you know that kind of sucks, but the Pelicans won.
Speaker 2: Whatever. All right, So Jake, what do you think about this?
Speaker 3: So FBS coaches got together and they unanimously voted in
favor of a pro proposal that reduced college football transfer
windows down to a window, and it would be a
single ten day period in January. Instead of having your
December WIMBO window and then the April one, it would
be January second to January twelfth. Of course, they're saying
this in order to preserve ball season, provide some guardrails
while still trying to allow the kids to be able
to get to a new school in time for academics
and whatnot.
Speaker 2: What do you think about it?
Speaker 5: I think for the most part, players know where they
want to go. They have a really good idea when
they go into the portal. And I'm talking about the
guys that are going to end up somewhere. I would
say of the guys that know they're going to get
a scholarship, that know they're going to be wanted in
the portal, I would say eighty percent of those guys
know where they want to go. They have a pretty
good definite idea, and so for me, I'm okay with
shortening the window. I think that's more than enough time.
We know there's tampering going on already, so they're already
having those conversations now for some For that other twenty percent,
is it enough time, We will see, but I certainly
think it's enough for a large majority of it. And
you delay it till January, so you know during bowl
season you're not going out there and playing bowl games
with walk ons and different things like, you actually have
a bulk of your roster. And then you still get
to the point where you can make the academic part
of it work because the new semester is going to
start around that time, at the end of that window,
and so you can go ahead and put yourself into
class and if you miss a day or two, you're
going to be fine.
Speaker 2: You can just play catch up a little bit. So
I actually am in favor of this. I'll be interested
to see.
Speaker 3: With the ten day window, it means you have to
commit within the ten days because right now, right you
just have to enter the portal when the window is open,
and then you can decide afterwards with academics though that
that does become a bit tighter. But I'm guessing it's
to put your name in from the second to the
twelfth and then I don't know when final day to
make a decision. Maybe it is just within that ten days.
There's some of the details that will have to come
out over time. Look, I think it's a solid change, uh,
simply because it provides more clarity. I think there's still
some interesting things, like, so, what does this mean for
teams that would be playing in a semifinal as the
calendar stands out, Does that mean they're gonna get a
rash of exits right after they exit the quarterfinals? Right?
You move on to the quarterfinals and all of a
sudden you're back and back leaves and stuff like do
you make a dendum here where if if if you play,
and like, if your team makes it that far, then
you have the ability to transfer after your season ends,
whenever that may be.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, you're still figuring it out. But I
like to see him change the calendar too of the playoff.
Speaker 2: Move it up a little bit. It's a bit too
spread out. You don't need ten days. It's a bit
too spread out right now. Yeah, the momentum is kind
of sputtering. Yeah, a bit. I feel that as well.
Speaker 5: I mean we're January the fifteenth, right now, We're not finished. Yeah, yeah,
you could have it finished by January the eighth.
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree.
Speaker 5: So twelve days move from the twentieth to the eighth,
and I think a lot of that. And then the
teams are playing the natty, you extend their window by
five days or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Five days actually feels like enough till January the fifteenth.
If it was on January the eighth, you would have
seven days. You'd have a full week to go into
the portal, choose your destination.
Speaker 3: And it does feel as if this is more clear
for everybody from a roster building standpoint in terms of
what you need and what will be out there instead
of like if you miss in this first one, then
right now, you know, okay, well, maybe we can cross
our fingers for April and get a guy that we
didn't get here. Get a guy then, but maybe that
guy never comes about, or maybe it's like last year
where guys get extremely overpriced because you have a scarcity,
and that was the market.
Speaker 2: Like that's ridiculous to me.
Speaker 5: In credit to the guys that got it, I'm I'm
not mad at them that the market is the market,
but that part of it, that that part's ridiculous. We're
paying way too much money for I don't want to
say average average probably but slightly starter talent defensive tackles, right,
and they're getting quarterback money because it's his second window,
and so players were trying to manipulate it a little bit, right,
And it's like, if you're one of those coaches programs
that has that guy in spring practice, you're counting on
that player, like you think he's going to be a
part of what you're doing moving forward, and then all
of a sudden, like he's in the back channels and
he he's like, hey, I'm about to get three million
from this school right now. And then you get the
rug pull from underneath you, and then you don't have
another window to go replace that player. So it's very
player friendly. And again, if they're gonna give it to you,
go get it. You might not have that opportunity again.
But it just puts everybody in a bad situation.
Speaker 2: And man, you can't like it.
Speaker 5: Certainly wants revenue sharing, and it's like, this is how
much you can spend. You can't be overspending for a
defensive tackle just because you feel like you really need one.
He could be the missing piece and you're all of
a sudden looking up in ten percent of your you know,
cap is basically what it is.
Speaker 2: And it's better for players going in a new spot.
So you force him to be there for spring. Yeah,
more time with the coaches, more time with the new teammates,
more time to acclimate it. Just I mean, honestly, this
is a change that makes sense all the way around.
It does lose a.
Speaker 3: Pretty hefty amount of player leverage, though, yeah, so I
imagine that's where the pushback is gonna come in.
Speaker 2: Players have to see what happened. What happened?
Speaker 5: Players have a lot right now? No they do, I know,
but I mean, but you know, like, no they don't.
And I'm four players having a lot of it. But
you look at even like Major League Baseball players who
have a ton of leverage and they've got an incredible union,
like you gotta give, you gotta give some back to
make it make sense. And I think to make it
work long term. Now, do I think you need more
than some of the NFL. Yeah, do somewhere in between. Yah,
it's probably what you need to find. There is a
sweet spot that you can find. I don't know that
we'll get there, but I do think you take a
little bit because right now they got all of it.
I mean, players have all of the leverage, and I
just think it would help roster management, roster building and
all those different things if we just cleaned it up
a little bit. And so maybe this is step forward.
It's still a long way to go on this, but
the coaches have made their voices heard. When we get back,
wrap it up our one and then we got Flustreet
coming up next.
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Off the bench.
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Speaker 3: All right, So, continuing our series from Louisiana Sports dot Net,
Hunt Palmer's portal player profiles. Today's profile Michael van Buren.
Of course, Michael van Buren, playing for Mississippi State this
last year as a true freshman, got forced into action
after noted evangel Eagle.
Speaker 5: It is Eagles, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean note it's
a private school, so it's going to be Crusaders or Eagles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair, fair, what's GC spartans? Oh, spice it up
a little bit. Okay, we used to do the the
USC song back in the day. I was hoping like
something from three hundred.
Speaker 3: But oh yeah, you know, like we like like anybody else,
I think there, Yes, there was definitely yeah, oh going
on for sure.
Speaker 2: Awesome uh so.
Speaker 3: But yeah noted evangel Eagle, Blake Shapey gets hurt. Michael
van Buren gets thrust into action for the Bulldogs last year.
Speaker 2: And it's a mixed bag, but overall he seemed.
Speaker 3: Like a guy that showed a lot of potential and
definitely the high water mark of the season, Jake, when
Georgia played in Starkville, it was like a surprisingly close game. Yeah,
like George was never under threat of losing.
Speaker 2: That was in Athens. Oh, that was in Athens. Excuse me,
I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: I thought that was in Starkfull I apologize, but okay,
so even more president in Athens is the high water
mark of van buren season. He throws for three oh
six and three tuds with only one pick against that
Georgia defense. He would go on to a week later
throw three more touchdowns against Texas A and M and
against Arkansas. We guys had a three h nine and
two touchdowns. So there was a run there where Michael
van Buren was okay, like maybe this guy is going
to be the guy. But season ends. They do love
Blake Shaven. Blake Shaven's gonna be very good for Jeff
leb I do believe that, and Van Buren, I don't
exactly know why choose to go elsewhere, and I kind
of love this from the LSU perspective in terms of
long term planning, this is not unlike even it's with
the less heralded, less talented player. It's not unlike Oregon
getting Dante more Right, Dante Moore plays as a freshman UCLA.
Speaker 2: He says, hey, I have a lot to learn. I'll
go back up a veteran for a year. Then I
think it's gonna be my time.
Speaker 3: In that same way, Van Buren's betting on himself back
up Nuss and then he's saying and then I think
it's gonna be my time.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 5: It's it's a great comp because you don't see it
very often where a guy starts in one place is like, hey,
you know what, I'm going to go somewhere else, and
I know I'm going to sit, but I'm going to
be mature about this. I'm going to know that it's
going to help me in the long run, and then
once that guy moves on, it's going to be my team,
and I'm going to be more ready more season because
I sat here and I did learn for a year.
Even though there's a lot of good in my freshman
year and I think Van Buren had more you know
good in his freshman year. The more did yeah, oh,
we got certainly higher highs than he had. And so
now it's a very mature move and one that would
be very hard for me or really anybody after you've
been playing in the same league to go somewhere else.
Speaker 2: But also, I mean the LSU quarterback you know, kind of.
Speaker 5: Legacy here as of late is as high as anybody's
and so you want to be a part of that
as well.
Speaker 3: And it gives you great insurance when it comes to
your immediate backle much better if he wins that role. Right,
It's kind of like the AJ Swan thing, where's experience,
but he is a higher ceiling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, than Swan does.
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