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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven to nine day, now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody asked this on the text line earlier today, and

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't gone back and looked at and looked it

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<v Speaker 2>up to answer your question, but you may be right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is at least the third or fourth

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<v Speaker 2>time maybe that Louisville has had roughly a week off

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<v Speaker 2>between games, and part of me says that it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>pretty common. We just haven't in a while been, as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, addicted to watching this team play, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>been a while since the has been good at basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>and this team, man, they've been They've been awesome to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just that we like to see them win,

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<v Speaker 2>which they've done a lot of that really. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they have one loss since December fourteenth, but just watching

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<v Speaker 2>them play, I mean, these guys again, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>i'm speaking out a turn here when I say that

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<v Speaker 2>they'll be remembered for a long time really, regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>what happens the rest of the way. I mean, it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be a real bummer if if they're remembered, because man,

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<v Speaker 2>it was such a fun ride and it came to

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<v Speaker 2>a terrible ending. I mean, I don't think that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen, but I just think the way they've kind

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<v Speaker 2>of and it's it's corny, I know, I get it,

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<v Speaker 2>but the revival, like it's really happening. The program is

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<v Speaker 2>being revived, and it's guys who are mostly going to

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<v Speaker 2>only be here for about a year, and they're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the fans really, you know, week by week seemingly get

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<v Speaker 2>more and more energized by how hard they're playing, the

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<v Speaker 2>success they're having, and you can tell that they appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>and they can certainly pick up how much this fan

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<v Speaker 2>base loves what they've been able to do. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just the players, it's Pat his staff, everybody from

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<v Speaker 2>top to bottom. So yeah, I mean, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is the most we've had throughout a

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<v Speaker 2>season ever where we have to wait a week or

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<v Speaker 2>even longer sometimes to watch him play. And we're currently

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<v Speaker 2>in that situation now because they played on Sunday night,

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<v Speaker 2>which was kind of ran and we didn't talk a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot about that game yesterday, and it wasn't one

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<v Speaker 2>of their better performances, but I mean, I mean, they

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<v Speaker 2>still won without much trouble, and you know, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>it was another win that I believed. I believe they

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<v Speaker 2>ended up jumping up in the in the metrics. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that, Yeah, they went from twenty seven to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five after the fifteen point road win at Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>So now they've got Saturday. I don't know, is that

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<v Speaker 2>a night game? They played Florida State at home? Who

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<v Speaker 2>of course they're just kind of hoping their season ends, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I mean it's Florida. Actually Florida State did

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<v Speaker 2>steal a win against wake Forest last week, but really

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<v Speaker 2>they've had a tough year, and Leonard Hamilton walking away

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<v Speaker 2>and being the end of his career is obviously you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just awkward. I mean, I think you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>few teams in the ACC right now that are having

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<v Speaker 2>some awkward finishes just because I mean, Laryone is out,

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<v Speaker 2>he left mid season. They're not going to hire the

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<v Speaker 2>interim Virginia is not going to hire the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Bennett tried to get the job. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>know Leonard Hamilton's moving on. I would be shocked if

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<v Speaker 2>Syracuse doesn't make a move because of how bad they are.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of an awkward ending of the season

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<v Speaker 2>for some teams in Florida State's one of them, and

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<v Speaker 2>they'll be here on Saturday, and you know, Louisville again,

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<v Speaker 2>not a whole lot to gain here because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a win is really just what you're supposed to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and because of Florida State, like many of the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>teams just not being very good at all, a win

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<v Speaker 2>is again what you're supposed to do, and there's not

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<v Speaker 2>a whole lot of value that you're going to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>You could beat them by thirty, which would be great.

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<v Speaker 2>That may bump you up a little bit when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the net ranking and the Ken Palm and

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. But yeah, I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 2>look at the rest of these games over the next

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<v Speaker 2>five games. You know, just take care of business, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know you can still try to get better in

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<v Speaker 2>those games. But I would I would, you know, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be a liar if I told you that I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like Louisville because again, when I say they can't get better,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I'm probably not gonna watch much in these

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<v Speaker 2>next five games, regardless of the score, to feel like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting even better. They might be, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>think it's gonna be tougher to tell because I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're already pretty good right now. By the way, the

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<v Speaker 2>game is at noon on Saturday, so just keep that

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<v Speaker 2>in mind. All right, it's Coffee and Company. We are

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<v Speaker 2>philby Thornton's. My voice sounds different, but it is me.

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<v Speaker 2>I can promise you that, and the voice has actually improved.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a we had a rough stretch in that

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<v Speaker 2>first segment. I got about fifteen minutes in and had

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<v Speaker 2>a flat tire essentially where I we had to pull

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<v Speaker 2>off the road and and regroup and get that. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because it was it was not good. But little hydration,

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<v Speaker 2>some throat lozenges, and uh, I'm feeling much better. Waterman

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<v Speaker 2>cures everything. Hydration is key. It is absolutely key. So

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things we did talk about for those

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<v Speaker 2>of you just now joining us has just this new

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<v Speaker 2>world of college sports where the portal matters, and NIL

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<v Speaker 2>of course is a big factor, and why guys decide

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<v Speaker 2>to go to certain schools once they hit the portal.

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<v Speaker 2>Nil's a factor and why some guys even make the

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<v Speaker 2>decision to enter the portal at all. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>think when you look at the teams that were viewed

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<v Speaker 2>to be real. You know, they were supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>really really good this year that aren't. There's not that

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<v Speaker 2>many of them, in fact, if you look at like

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<v Speaker 2>the preseason top twenty five college basketball pole. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there are some that have not at all

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<v Speaker 2>been able to live up to what they were expected

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<v Speaker 2>to do. But Kansas is certainly one of them. Because

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<v Speaker 2>last night they lost by nearly forty points. They're probably

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's no way they're going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the top twenty five moving forward. I mean, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine they will be. But they've now lost i think

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<v Speaker 2>it's seven games in Big Twelve play for the second

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<v Speaker 2>straight year. Prior to the last two seasons, they'd never

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<v Speaker 2>lost more than six in league play. So I still

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<v Speaker 2>am not going to write them off as if they're terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>because I still think they have got talent and they've

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<v Speaker 2>got a really good coach. But they're a mess right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sounds like just about everybody is viewing it

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<v Speaker 2>as an issue with just guys getting along and playing

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<v Speaker 2>and working well together. They've got a hell of a

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<v Speaker 2>coach and they've got a lot of talent, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a mess right now, and they were the

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<v Speaker 2>preseason number one team in the country for obvious reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not bringing this up to say Bill self is

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<v Speaker 2>a bum. Clearly it's on him. Coaches have to figure

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<v Speaker 2>this out, but I think it's a real reminder that

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<v Speaker 2>having all the talent is a big part of the job,

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<v Speaker 2>right like getting the best players possible is and always

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<v Speaker 2>will be a humongous component to how you've become successful

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<v Speaker 2>in college basketball. I don't think there's anything they could

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<v Speaker 2>do to the game that's ever going to change that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can have enough talent to beat anybody, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's got to work well together. And it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>about all, right, are these guys compatible on the floor

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<v Speaker 2>as players, it's also are they compatible who work together

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<v Speaker 2>as a team, And there's really no way to know

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<v Speaker 2>that because it's all bad. I mean, think about how

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<v Speaker 2>many coaches out there are coaching guys right now that

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't they'd never met a year ago because they

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they were playing at a different school, and

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't recruit them at a high school, and they

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<v Speaker 2>waited till they got in the portal in order to

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<v Speaker 2>start recruiting them. So you've got to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>really get through to your guys, regardless of age, Veterans

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<v Speaker 2>that are five year college players, freshmen that are just

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<v Speaker 2>coming in, and there's got to be a collective buying

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<v Speaker 2>from your team, and they've got to believe in you

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<v Speaker 2>and what your vision is. And Louisville, they're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to go get a Rain Smith every year.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to be able to go get a

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<v Speaker 2>Terrence Edwards and a Chucky Hepburn every year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope they can, but I actually think those guys

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<v Speaker 2>are pretty special and we were lucky to get them,

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<v Speaker 2>not only because of their ability, but because of their maturity.

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<v Speaker 2>They played a lot of basketball. You know, they're they're

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<v Speaker 2>very selfless guys, and it's not that that's impossible to find.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just think Pat Kelsey and really Mark Pope

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<v Speaker 2>as well, they have an element about him as people

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<v Speaker 2>that you can see why guys would like to play

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<v Speaker 2>for them, why they are good leaders, And I just

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<v Speaker 2>think that's one of those things that you've always needed

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<v Speaker 2>that to an extent, But in the previous world, without

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<v Speaker 2>the portal and nil and all that, you could be

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<v Speaker 2>the drill sergeant. You could be the dictator and they'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to conform to you. But now guys can just

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<v Speaker 2>leave at any moment. I mean they really can. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it doesn't happen as often, but like there are

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<v Speaker 2>guys this year in college basketball that have already left

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<v Speaker 2>their team. Like they're still around, but like they're already

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<v Speaker 2>it's already. I mean, in fact, I just saw during

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<v Speaker 2>the break there's a kid from Saint Louis. I do

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<v Speaker 2>only know of his name because of his dad. His

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<v Speaker 2>dad played it at Saint Louis and in the NBA's

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<v Speaker 2>name was Larry Hughes. Larry Hughes Junior is at Saint

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<v Speaker 2>Louis playing for Josh Shirtz and he's going to hit

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<v Speaker 2>the portal. I mean, he's still on the team, but

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<v Speaker 2>like it's a known thing that he's moving on. So

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<v Speaker 2>guys can just up and leave now. So you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to balance that, right, like find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to keep them working hard, buying in and really

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<v Speaker 2>just again it sounds corny, but just believing in what

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<v Speaker 2>it is you're selling, in your vision for everybody and

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<v Speaker 2>the power of the unit is something you hear Pat

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey talk about quite a bit. I'm sure it's corny

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<v Speaker 2>to some, but I can tell he means it when

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<v Speaker 2>he preaches it, and he tries to really establish that

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<v Speaker 2>culture within the locker room from top to bottom. Coach, players,

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<v Speaker 2>support staff all that and these guys believe it too.

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<v Speaker 2>And you may have times where guys come in and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't buy in, and that could be an issue.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I think a good example is Jeff Brom.

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<v Speaker 2>That happened last year in the portal. They went to

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<v Speaker 2>the portal and brought in some guys that went through springball,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jeff Brom packed their stuff and told them to

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<v Speaker 2>hit the road when springball concluded, because they were not

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<v Speaker 2>good locker room guys. They were not there for the

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<v Speaker 2>right reasons. And that's I think that's almost impossible to vet.

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<v Speaker 2>So sometimes you may get a guy who might be

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<v Speaker 2>more of a knucklehead than you anticipated, but it's your

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<v Speaker 2>job as a coach to rain that in and get

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<v Speaker 2>everybody on the same page. And some coaches are just

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be good at that at all, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, I don't think Cala Perry's good at that,

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<v Speaker 2>but he can still have success if he has the

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<v Speaker 2>But I just feel like he's a guy that his

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<v Speaker 2>most successful teams have not been you know, teams that

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<v Speaker 2>have been put together the way that teams are put together. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>currently at Arkansas. So like Bill self is struggling with

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<v Speaker 2>rather than just coming there to you know, try to

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<v Speaker 2>be the same guy they were at their previous school,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that's probably bad to guess that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty good and it's just not it's not gelling

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<v Speaker 2>and that happens, and as a coach, you can blame

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<v Speaker 2>it on that. Hey, these guys just don't like each other.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's a big important component. So I just think

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<v Speaker 2>both both coaches around here louisll and Kentucky Mark Pope

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<v Speaker 2>about them as individuals that can get guys to collectively

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<v Speaker 2>best players, and look, you need all that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>it's because the guys they got weren't as good as

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think it's it's working. I mean some

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way to know for sure why a team

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<v Speaker 2>is disappointing. But Baylor was preseason number eight. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>Baylor had a roster that was as good as anybody's

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<v Speaker 2>because you have nor Shadowmere, who's been a great college

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<v Speaker 2>player forever, a proven double double, really good player, Jeremy

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<v Speaker 2>coming in that are probably picking wherever they want when

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<v Speaker 2>Final four with Miami. You mix that in with freshman VJ. Edgecombe,

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<v Speaker 2>this class outside of Cooper Flyag. I'd take VJ. Edgecomb

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<v Speaker 2>over the kids at Baylor. I really would. Robert White,

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<v Speaker 2>another five star freshman guard that's not working at Baylor.

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<v Speaker 2>along and you got too many old guys not getting

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<v Speaker 2>along with the young guys vice versa. But again, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just they're not as good as they should be. And

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<v Speaker 2>nobody can claim it's because they don't have players that

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<v Speaker 2>are good enough. And I just think as a coach,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be such a roll of the dice.

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<v Speaker 2>But you also just have to know regardless. I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>figure it out. I gotta figure out how my twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four year old senior is going to be a good

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<v Speaker 2>teammate to my eighteen year old freshman who, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't proven anything as a player, but he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>all the hype. He's gonna get all the accolades because

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<v Speaker 2>he's a Burger boy. He's going to be a top

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<v Speaker 2>five draft pick if he scores a point for us

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<v Speaker 2>or not. Like, finding out how to make that work

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<v Speaker 2>easier said than done, and I think we're seeing that

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<v Speaker 2>play out in college basketball. All right, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the potential expansion of the NCAA Tournament, because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want it. I'm somebody that fears change. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think there's anything college basketball could do that would

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<v Speaker 2>make me not love it. Don't I wouldn't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to not love it. I love college hoops. I really

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<v Speaker 2>learned about myself when Louisville was as bad as they

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<v Speaker 2>were in the last couple of years. I still found

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<v Speaker 2>myself consuming the sport NonStop, and really I became more

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<v Speaker 2>so into gambling on the sport, which I still am

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<v Speaker 2>into that. But you know, it's nice to have a

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<v Speaker 2>team that's alive again. So I'm not going to act

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<v Speaker 2>as if like it'd be the worst thing in the

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<v Speaker 2>world if they expanded it. But what it comes down to,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just not necessary and it wasn't even necessary to

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<v Speaker 2>have the play in games, right, Like, we didn't need

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. And I still think it's an absolute

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<v Speaker 2>krock of you know what, that two of the sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>seeds or is it four of them that do the

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<v Speaker 2>playing game in Dayton, Like, that's not the same experience

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<v Speaker 2>like those guys, those teams that end up in dating

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<v Speaker 2>in the playing game, the two sixteen seeds that essentially

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<v Speaker 2>play in to get to the number one seed, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like they're robbed of the experience like

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<v Speaker 2>we should just I mean, so again I would go

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<v Speaker 2>back to just having sixty four teams and it being

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<v Speaker 2>the way it was before they added these playing games.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're not going to do that. If any change happens,

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be expanding, and it sounds like they

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<v Speaker 2>may do it. This report from Awful Announcing has a

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<v Speaker 2>has a breakdown here that let's see. Yeah, it says

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<v Speaker 2>that the NCAA, if they expand, what they're aiming is

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<v Speaker 2>for seventy two or seventy six teams to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the field. And I mean, there really hasn't been meaningful

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<v Speaker 2>expansion in over forty years. So we all everybody knows

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<v Speaker 2>this is just for money. You put more games, that's

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<v Speaker 2>more inventory, that's more money you can make. I mean that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that's what makes the world go round. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'll still enjoy it the turn. I'll still

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the tournament just as much. But I think we

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<v Speaker 2>are at a point now in every level of sports,

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<v Speaker 2>pro or college, any expanded postseason, it's just money. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably always been that way. But I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for those of us that just enjoy sports and don't

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<v Speaker 2>consider it, or at least we don't think about it

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<v Speaker 2>from a business standpoint, we know it is a business,

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<v Speaker 2>but we look at it for entertainment. We're not in

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<v Speaker 2>the business of, you know, sports, as far as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not. Our livelihood's not dependent upon how many millions

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<v Speaker 2>that the NCAA or the NBA or the NFL breaks in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's more of an escape for us. So

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<v Speaker 2>we've always known that, but man, it's so obvious now

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<v Speaker 2>because there's no I mean, when's the last time there

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<v Speaker 2>was something that expanded that actually led to Wow, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing they expanded because that team was great

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<v Speaker 2>and they wouldn't had an opportunity just I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just not necessary. There have been playing games that have

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<v Speaker 2>led to in fact, is it. I think there's been

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<v Speaker 2>two teams that have gone from the play in game

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<v Speaker 2>to the Final Four. I know one and that was

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<v Speaker 2>Shaka Smart and BCU. And then after that I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>didn't mit Cronin do it? Am I crazy? Because I

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<v Speaker 2>think when UCLA made it all the way to the

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<v Speaker 2>championship game, I'm sorry the final four they lost digging

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<v Speaker 2>zag on that buzzer beater. I feel like they were

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<v Speaker 2>were they were they? They weren't a sixteen seed? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about playing games eleven seeds. Oh okay, no, no, no, no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's elevens that play in every year and those are

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<v Speaker 2>the teams like like last year was at Virginia that

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<v Speaker 2>got in as the eleven seed, I mean I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was and they got beat by like forty and

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<v Speaker 2>again like they didn't belong. It wasn't. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>could have put a different team there, maybe they would

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<v Speaker 2>have made a deep run. But anyways, Yeah, in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one, UCLA made the was that twenty one? What

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<v Speaker 2>am I looking at? Here? Do you have my years?

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<v Speaker 1>Wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Ucla, Yeah, they played in the playing game, and they

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<v Speaker 2>played in the eleven seed playing game. They beat MSU

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<v Speaker 2>as that I don't know. I can't tell if that's

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<v Speaker 2>Mississippi State or if that's uh who is it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>They so, yeah, Michigan State not Michigan State. Uh, And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. Ucla beat BYU after they beat whoever they

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<v Speaker 2>played to get into that game, and then they beat

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<v Speaker 2>Abilene Christian who upset Texas. Then they beat Alabama, which

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<v Speaker 2>was a big upset. They beat Michigan, who was the

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<v Speaker 2>one seed in that region, and then they ended up

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<v Speaker 2>losing in the final fourd Againstzagas. So again, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>cool story. But if you don't, if you don't get

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<v Speaker 2>it like that doesn't. This is one of the dumbest

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<v Speaker 2>things that you hear from time to time from people

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to like the tournament. If you get

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<v Speaker 2>in and you're a bubble team that did not belong in,

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<v Speaker 2>and like there's teams that quite literally had better resumes

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<v Speaker 2>that that didn't get in, and you did, but you

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<v Speaker 2>make a final four, you didn't prove that you belonged.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's never what it's about. That's the conversation, the

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<v Speaker 2>type of conversation that people have that that really they

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<v Speaker 2>don't realize that they're really making a point that we

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't ever play any game outside of the tournament because

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<v Speaker 2>what you do has to matter. If in fact, a team,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you can't tell me we're not this good, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well you're not. You're not living up to that. You

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<v Speaker 2>have a bad record, you have terrible losses, like you

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<v Speaker 2>know that. That's that's what the SEC hawks do. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't tell me we're not one of the best teams.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll look you got four losses, like I tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you whatever you want me to tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>But the results of the results and the results have

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<v Speaker 2>to matter. If a team making a final four despite

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<v Speaker 2>their resume not being good enough to even get in

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<v Speaker 2>as an eleven seed like that, that just proves how

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<v Speaker 2>much they underperformed. So again, the tournament's probably going to expand,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm still gonna love it, but it's certainly not necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody would argue that. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>the more you make it a bigger thing with more there,

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<v Speaker 2>the less it feels special to certain teams. Now there's

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<v Speaker 2>certain programs that aren't going to look at this as anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Like making a tournament is not a big deal to

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of programs. Louisville will be this year just

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<v Speaker 2>because it's been a while, but for other teams, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a big deal. But if you get to

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<v Speaker 2>seventy six or even more, I mean, you really lose

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<v Speaker 2>the It's going to turn into where you're comparing teams

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<v Speaker 2>saying they made the tournament to teams going six and

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<v Speaker 2>six and claiming they made a bowl game. That's that

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Satterfield loser ass kind of stuff that we just

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<v Speaker 2>So, I don't know what happened, and it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 2>like anybody does because every update I've seen from this

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<v Speaker 2>story is the same. But LeVar Ball he had to

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<v Speaker 2>have his foot amputated. I don't know if again, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>there's an update out there, but an unknown serious medical

417
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<v Speaker 2>issue has resulted in him losing his his his foot

418
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<v Speaker 2>and there's a picture of him in a wheelchair.

419
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's Did Dion Sanders have that too, or was

420
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<v Speaker 3>he close to get.

421
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<v Speaker 2>I think he had to have a toe imputated, but yeah,

422
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<v Speaker 2>he had a I mean he was in a he

423
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<v Speaker 2>was in a wheelchair a walking boot for a long time.

424
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, the internet's the Internet. I'm not surprised

425
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<v Speaker 2>that there are many people already making jokes about LaVar

426
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<v Speaker 2>ball and blaming it all on those infamous Big Baller

427
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<v Speaker 2>brand shoes that you know clearly, you know it.

428
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<v Speaker 3>Was a monic's sacrifice. Your three sons get to be famous.

429
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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that was a sacrifice for Leangelo to finally get

430
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<v Speaker 3>on an NBA court and seeing swerving, Yeah.

431
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<v Speaker 2>I mean that. Did you see he performed at the

432
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<v Speaker 2>NBA All Star Game? Yes?

433
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that people are making jokes that that's

434
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<v Speaker 3>the only time he's going to get on an.

435
00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:19.920
<v Speaker 2>NBA basketball court. I mean, I'm telling you, but take

436
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<v Speaker 2>advantage of it, the fact that the fact that all

437
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<v Speaker 2>of his sons have have legitimately done something six. I mean,

438
00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Leangelo signed a thirteen million dollar record deal. The one

439
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<v Speaker 2>player who wasn't good enough to be a pro, and

440
00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:37.920
<v Speaker 2>then the others are good enough to be pros. Obviously,

441
00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Alonzo's had some health issues, but when healthy, he's clearly

442
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<v Speaker 2>a good player, not a not an elite player in

443
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<v Speaker 2>the NBA. And you can make the case that LaMelo

444
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<v Speaker 2>is I mean, I think he is, in fact the

445
00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:48.759
<v Speaker 2>best player, but he might have been one of the

446
00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:50.960
<v Speaker 2>biggest All Star snubs this year when it comes to

447
00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:53.799
<v Speaker 2>just how productive he's been. So in the end, LeVar Ball,

448
00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:57.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, he wins. Now, I will say this, I

449
00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:00.839
<v Speaker 2>always felt like this was something that did not get

450
00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:05.079
<v Speaker 2>enough attention. There was another trio of brothers that didn't

451
00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:10.319
<v Speaker 2>have the LeVar Ball circus parading around trying to get

452
00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:13.599
<v Speaker 2>them more recognition and whatnot. And I'd like to believe

453
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<v Speaker 2>that with Lebar it was always for him trying to

454
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<v Speaker 2>help his kids. But you know, sometimes he probably didn't

455
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<v Speaker 2>help him when he thought he was. But there were

456
00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:26.519
<v Speaker 2>is it the Holiday brothers. Yeah, their father. Nobody knows

457
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<v Speaker 2>who he is at all. And he's not somebody that's

458
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<v Speaker 2>ever trying to get attention. He's not somebody that has

459
00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:36.559
<v Speaker 2>ever you know, made it. I mean, I'm not I've

460
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<v Speaker 2>never seen him, but I remember the youngest Holiday brother

461
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<v Speaker 2>I think it was I think it was Aaron Holiday

462
00:23:44.799 --> 00:23:48.599
<v Speaker 2>who got drafted in the me. Look here, Aaron Holliday

463
00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:52.200
<v Speaker 2>got drafted in twenty eighteen by my Pacers in the

464
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<v Speaker 2>first round with the twenty third overall pick. The other

465
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<v Speaker 2>is Drew Holliday, of course, the best of them. He's

466
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<v Speaker 2>the oldest. I mean, he's won a championship with the Celtics,

467
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:03.359
<v Speaker 2>he won a championship with the with the Bucks. I mean,

468
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:06.359
<v Speaker 2>he's he's awesome. I mean, he's a known player. He's

469
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<v Speaker 2>the oldest of them. And then there's Justin Holiday, who,

470
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<v Speaker 2>in fact, Justin may be the oldest, but he also

471
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<v Speaker 2>has played in the NBA. I mean, he played in

472
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<v Speaker 2>the NBA from two thousand and fourteen to twenty twenty four.

473
00:24:21.079 --> 00:24:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I think this year he's currently looks like he's currently

474
00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:27.279
<v Speaker 2>playing in Europe somewhere. Yeah, he's playing in Italy. So

475
00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:30.400
<v Speaker 2>this is a guy who had three sons that all

476
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<v Speaker 2>played in the NBA for a long time, and they

477
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<v Speaker 2>all went to I think they all went to you know,

478
00:24:36.279 --> 00:24:38.799
<v Speaker 2>one of them, Justin Holiday, went to Washington, but the

479
00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:41.799
<v Speaker 2>others went to UCLA and like you would have never

480
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<v Speaker 2>known about their dad, you know what I mean. Like

481
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:46.680
<v Speaker 2>and by the way this was all playing out around

482
00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:49.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of the same time that LaVar Ball was doing

483
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:53.119
<v Speaker 2>his Shenanigans, sending his kids to Lithuania, having them drop

484
00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:56.400
<v Speaker 2>out of high school. I mean, it was a long

485
00:24:56.519 --> 00:24:59.279
<v Speaker 2>road to get there, but they are successful. But you know,

486
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<v Speaker 2>I just remember thinking, they showed Aaron Holliday on draft

487
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:05.279
<v Speaker 2>night getting drafted by my Pacers, and I think that's

488
00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:07.240
<v Speaker 2>probably why I remember it, because it was my Pacers,

489
00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:09.640
<v Speaker 2>and they showed his dad, who was there at the

490
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<v Speaker 2>table as he got drafted, and you know, hugged his son,

491
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.599
<v Speaker 2>and you know, he walked up to the podium and

492
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:18.039
<v Speaker 2>shook Adam Silver's hand and whatnot, and he gave his

493
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:20.200
<v Speaker 2>dad a real big, you know thank you in that interview,

494
00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:22.920
<v Speaker 2>basically saying, you know, for pushing him, and just thinking like, well,

495
00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:25.559
<v Speaker 2>that was a great story. But because he's not parading

496
00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:28.000
<v Speaker 2>around like a clown like LeVar Ball is, like nobody,

497
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:29.880
<v Speaker 2>but this guy could walk into anywhere, nobody would know

498
00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:32.200
<v Speaker 2>who he is. But he just cared about, you know,

499
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:36.000
<v Speaker 2>his kids and clearly supported him enough and believed in

500
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<v Speaker 2>them to where they I mean, as a dad myself,

501
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I have no clue what my what my kids are

502
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<v Speaker 2>going to do when they get older. My daughter's especially child,

503
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and you know her, her road's going to be different

504
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.480
<v Speaker 2>than most. And and I wouldn't have it any other way.

505
00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:50.960
<v Speaker 2>My son, he loves sports, and I have no clue

506
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<v Speaker 2>if he's going to be able to play competitively, even

507
00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:55.839
<v Speaker 2>like a high school I mean, maybe he didn't make

508
00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:57.759
<v Speaker 2>the high school team. I would doubt that's the case.

509
00:25:57.759 --> 00:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd probably have a real tough time if that was

510
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<v Speaker 2>the case. And maybe, like now that I'm in the

511
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Hall of fame at the school, like, is he just

512
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:05.920
<v Speaker 2>required to be on the team, Like they can't cut him? Right,

513
00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:09.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm kidding, But anyways, Like I have no clue what

514
00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:11.880
<v Speaker 2>my kids will will end up doing when they get older.

515
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:16.240
<v Speaker 2>But I cannot imagine the feeling that you would get

516
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<v Speaker 2>being a parent to see your kid really have high

517
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:23.000
<v Speaker 2>levels success in anything. Right, Like I'm proud of my

518
00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:25.640
<v Speaker 2>kids now, like when he's well, when they're well behaved,

519
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:27.599
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. But whenever they get older

520
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:32.000
<v Speaker 2>and they do well in school, hopefully hopefully they become

521
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<v Speaker 2>good students, Like I just I can't wait for that

522
00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:38.200
<v Speaker 2>feeling being proud of your kids. I mean, it's got

523
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>to be one of the being I'm going full dad

524
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:45.160
<v Speaker 2>mode right here. But it's you know, it's like I

525
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:46.839
<v Speaker 2>went to sleep one day and I woke up and

526
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.400
<v Speaker 2>now like that's my whole personality is being a dad,

527
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 2>and it's the best part of my life. It's the best

528
00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:52.880
<v Speaker 2>thing that ever happened to me, is having kids. But

529
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I just feel like I was kind

530
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<v Speaker 2>of like learning on the fly when we had our daughter.

531
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<v Speaker 2>And regardless of what people tell you, And you'll know

532
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:04.559
<v Speaker 2>this one day, Austin, I'm sure when people ask you

533
00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:06.720
<v Speaker 2>are you ready? Are you ready? Like if your wife's

534
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:09.039
<v Speaker 2>pregnant or your girlfriend's pregnant, whatever it may be, you don't.

535
00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:11.920
<v Speaker 2>You're not ready. You're you're never read, You're never ready.

536
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:13.839
<v Speaker 2>It's you just gotta you gotta, you gotta learn on

537
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:16.079
<v Speaker 2>the go. And I don't mean like trial and error

538
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:17.759
<v Speaker 2>to keep a human being alive. I don't mean it

539
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:19.519
<v Speaker 2>that way. I mean you've got to. I mean it's

540
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>it's an experience that you can't get ready for and

541
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:26.160
<v Speaker 2>there's no real like I'm glad I went, and it's

542
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>worth going just to be supportive from my for my wife.

543
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:31.079
<v Speaker 2>And at the time I'm thinking it's really important. But

544
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.039
<v Speaker 2>like we went to those classes that you go through

545
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:35.200
<v Speaker 2>that the hospital puts you in before you have a baby,

546
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 2>which you know is you get some valuable information. But

547
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:42.359
<v Speaker 2>like none of that is is what you know, had

548
00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:44.279
<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with me. You know, like it. I

549
00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:45.559
<v Speaker 2>don't want to say it was a waste of time,

550
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.480
<v Speaker 2>but like even that, it's there's no harm in doing it.

551
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:52.359
<v Speaker 2>But you don't really like life changes in every way

552
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:54.720
<v Speaker 2>when you at least it should. If it doesn't, then

553
00:27:54.720 --> 00:27:56.720
<v Speaker 2>that's probably not a good thing. But when you become

554
00:27:56.759 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 2>a parent for the first time, I mean, I can't

555
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.160
<v Speaker 2>put into words what that does as far as just

556
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:06.039
<v Speaker 2>changing everything about your mentality because you're you know, you're

557
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:09.839
<v Speaker 2>you have to be. You become without even any decision,

558
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:13.599
<v Speaker 2>you just become more selfless and you realize now they

559
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 2>are the most important thing in your life. And it's

560
00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 2>not even by design, it's just how it works for

561
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:21.200
<v Speaker 2>for it did for me, and I know for a

562
00:28:21.200 --> 00:28:23.279
<v Speaker 2>lot of people as well. To where you now are

563
00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:26.960
<v Speaker 2>doing everything you can to not only keep this human

564
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 2>alive and give them a good life, but you know,

565
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.759
<v Speaker 2>to do everything you can to support them. I don't

566
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:32.519
<v Speaker 2>know how this turned into the Doctor Phil Show. Maybe

567
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:34.759
<v Speaker 2>it's that cough medicine I was taken during the break

568
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:37.079
<v Speaker 2>because I'm convinced there's some kind of drug in it,

569
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:40.960
<v Speaker 2>because yeah, it gets me feeling pretty good and and

570
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:45.240
<v Speaker 2>you know it's working, so good stuff. All right. Tonight's

571
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 2>college basketball slate not super super loaded, but and usually

572
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Louisvill's played on Wednesdays, so again I'm missing out on

573
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.960
<v Speaker 2>watching the cards in action before I breaks. Men, it's

574
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.960
<v Speaker 2>not fun. But tonight, I would say, really, the best

575
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:06.319
<v Speaker 2>game is probably Alabama at Missouri. Currently, Missouri is projected

576
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>to win this win eighty six to sixty five. Eighty

577
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:12.960
<v Speaker 2>six to eighty five. I mean, to me, this screams

578
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.160
<v Speaker 2>take Bama. They're coming off the lost to Auburn. I

579
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:18.240
<v Speaker 2>think Missouri is one of those teams that is good,

580
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:20.599
<v Speaker 2>but I don't look at them as one of the

581
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 2>teams that I feel like is elite for the for

582
00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:27.839
<v Speaker 2>the for the sec. They're nineteen and six, and yes,

583
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 2>they've got some good wins. Right Their win against Florida

584
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:34.839
<v Speaker 2>earlier this year was huge, they won in Gainesville. But

585
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>their other wins, in my opinion, for the most part,

586
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:41.160
<v Speaker 2>in acc play, have not come against bumps, but they've

587
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 2>come against the not so great teams in the ACC.

588
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 2>When they've played the better teams in the ACE. In

589
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.480
<v Speaker 2>the I'm sorry the SEC like Tennessee and Texas A

590
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>and M. They haven't won. When they played Texas, they lost.

591
00:29:54.759 --> 00:29:57.400
<v Speaker 2>So I think Bama bounce is back here. What are

592
00:29:57.400 --> 00:29:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you seeing on the line? Let me, I'm looking at

593
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>ken one? Is it Bama minus one?

594
00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

595
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Missouri minus? Oh my god? What am I missing about Bama?

596
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>They think there's gonna be like a letdown. And I

597
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>know I know that Missouri right, yes, and I know

598
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>that Missouri is good, and I know that they're at home,

599
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.599
<v Speaker 2>but Bama is Bama, and I just feel like NATO's

600
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.279
<v Speaker 2>coming off a loss. I feel like this is I mean,

601
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>are you you got you got your sheets in there?

602
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:22.160
<v Speaker 2>What are you seeing?

603
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:22.519
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

604
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.880
<v Speaker 3>It's it's telling me take Alabama. But it's got eighty

605
00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:27.559
<v Speaker 3>five to eighty four Alabama.

606
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, if they're dogs, I'm taking Bama money,

607
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.799
<v Speaker 2>of course. And then elsewhere I would say, I mean

608
00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>as far as because the kin palm when you look

609
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.599
<v Speaker 2>when you go to the you know the the you

610
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>click on the date at the kim Palm the kimpom website.

611
00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:44.839
<v Speaker 2>It gives you all the games and it just goes

612
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.480
<v Speaker 2>from like best match up, so the next best matchup.

613
00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:52.160
<v Speaker 2>As far as the two teams collectively, Oregon and Iowa,

614
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 2>that one doesn't do much for me. And I don't

615
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>West Coast teams in the Big Ten. I stay away

616
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:04.240
<v Speaker 2>because I don't think it's a coincidence. And Mick Cronan,

617
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:06.359
<v Speaker 2>he's Mit Cronan and we're actually going to play some

618
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:07.920
<v Speaker 2>sound from him coming up here in a moment because

619
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.680
<v Speaker 2>he's he's hilarious and he doesn't know it. But when

620
00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>you have teams that are from the West Coast that

621
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:17.160
<v Speaker 2>make the trip across the country to do a couple

622
00:31:17.160 --> 00:31:18.839
<v Speaker 2>of games or whatever, it may be, in fact that

623
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<v Speaker 2>they don't do a couple of games, they actually come back,

624
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:24.599
<v Speaker 2>which is crazy. But either way, like that jet lag,

625
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:26.640
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call it, that matters. I mean,

626
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:28.920
<v Speaker 2>that's why you know you have teams that have made

627
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:32.319
<v Speaker 2>the trip to play two West Coast teams like Michigan State.

628
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Michigan State went out to where was it Michigan State

629
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>went last week or I'm sorry, I guess two weeks ago.

630
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<v Speaker 2>Roughly on the first of February. In the fourth of February,

631
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.599
<v Speaker 2>they played USC and UCLA. They're substantially better than both

632
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>those teams. They lost both games, and I think it's

633
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<v Speaker 2>got to be because of the travel. It's just not

634
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<v Speaker 2>normal for a college team to have a conference game

635
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<v Speaker 2>where they got to travel that far away. So I

636
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 2>tend to pick Oregon, but they are traveling to Iowa,

637
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:05.559
<v Speaker 2>which I guess isn't as far as traveling to you know, Rutgers,

638
00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:07.799
<v Speaker 2>but I tend to stay away from that one. You

639
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:09.599
<v Speaker 2>got any play on the Kentucky game tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>If anything, I will probably like because what you're seeing

641
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.519
<v Speaker 3>is Kentucky minus five, right. I like Kentucky to win

642
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<v Speaker 3>by more than five.

643
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Me too, and I'm I'm probably not gonna touch it,

644
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.519
<v Speaker 2>just because I feel weird betting on him, but especially

645
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:26.039
<v Speaker 2>when I know that if I was gonna truly be

646
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:27.960
<v Speaker 2>objective and bet here what I think is going to

647
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.200
<v Speaker 2>make me money, I would bet Kentucky because it's minus

648
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 2>four and a half right now at DraftKings, and I mean,

649
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.759
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be shocked if they win that thing by fifteen.

650
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Because Bandy again credit to their first year head coach,

651
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>the Guy who came from James Madison. He's doing a

652
00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:43.480
<v Speaker 2>pretty good job. In fact, he's doing a really good

653
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:47.319
<v Speaker 2>job at Vandy, especially considering how loaded the conferences this year.

654
00:32:47.599 --> 00:32:50.079
<v Speaker 2>But man, they only have one win on the road

655
00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:53.599
<v Speaker 2>in the SEC and that was at LSU. This is

656
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:56.720
<v Speaker 2>at Reperna in Kentucky. Yes, they're short handed, but Kentucky's

657
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot better than LSU even when they're short handed,

658
00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I would say. And I just think the atmosphere is

659
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:05.000
<v Speaker 2>going to be a factor. And Vandy's been a good

660
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.559
<v Speaker 2>story for year one and they did beat Vandy. I'm

661
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:10.640
<v Speaker 2>sorry they did beat Kentucky and Tennessee when they had

662
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>him at home, but I just don't think they're going

663
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:16.039
<v Speaker 2>to be able to get it done because again, even

664
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<v Speaker 2>even with Kentucky not having Butler and and and Robinson,

665
00:33:21.759 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean clearly that matters, but they still have guys that,

666
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:27.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, Kobe Bray at any moment could get hot

667
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:30.279
<v Speaker 2>in drain five threes like that's a weapon that Bandy

668
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 2>most teams, including Vandy, would have a tough time countering.

669
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<v Speaker 2>And then I know it came in a loss, but man,

670
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I tell you what, they're they're big man for Kentucky

671
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Amari Williams. I mean he's he's a tough guy to stop,

672
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>and again Texas was able to outlast him. But I

673
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:50.839
<v Speaker 2>kind of feel like, without without your two really two

674
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.720
<v Speaker 2>of your best players, and Jackson Robinson and Lamont Butler,

675
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.359
<v Speaker 2>I would just force feed Amari. I know that's not

676
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.680
<v Speaker 2>at all how Pope typically plays. He's somebody that really

677
00:34:00.759 --> 00:34:02.880
<v Speaker 2>likes to space it out, a lot of possessions, a

678
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:06.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of threes. But Mario Williams is physically a presence

679
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:08.840
<v Speaker 2>that you don't see often in college hoops. And oh,

680
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:11.239
<v Speaker 2>by the way, he's a really good passer, Like I

681
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:12.960
<v Speaker 2>would run everything through. I mean they're doing a lot

682
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:14.760
<v Speaker 2>of that, but I would do it even more so

683
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:16.039
<v Speaker 2>if I'm being honest.

684
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Another game, I like here possibly and I'm kind of

685
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 3>confused by this. I'm seeing New Mexico and Boise State.

686
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about New Mexico. They're four and

687
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 3>a half point underdog.

688
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:28.840
<v Speaker 2>I like New Mexico a lot, but I never do

689
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:32.440
<v Speaker 2>well whenever I bet on them. I mean those late

690
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:37.199
<v Speaker 2>ten o'clock games. Yeah, so this is at Boise and

691
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:42.599
<v Speaker 2>what's the spread. I'm seeing four and a half Boise State. Yeah,

692
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Ken Palm would tell you to take New

693
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.519
<v Speaker 2>Mexico to cover seventy seven to seventy five. And they're

694
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:50.199
<v Speaker 2>not ranked, are they New Mexico. No, they are, No,

695
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.239
<v Speaker 2>but they I mean they're They're twenty two and four,

696
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:55.239
<v Speaker 2>fourteen and one in the league. Their only loss in

697
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:58.519
<v Speaker 2>league play was a real upset because they lost to

698
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:02.800
<v Speaker 2>San Jose State, who's bad. So yeah, look New Mexico

699
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:06.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty two and four, they have one real head scratcher

700
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 2>in conference play, and then they lost to big, big Patino.

701
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.519
<v Speaker 2>They lost to Saint John's earlier this year, lost to

702
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Arizona State on a neutral court, and then they lost

703
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.800
<v Speaker 2>to somehow they lost to New Mexico State. So yeah,

704
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I would. In fact, I mean, you haven't really talked

705
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:23.679
<v Speaker 2>me into it, but I think plus it'll suggest I

706
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:25.679
<v Speaker 2>think New Mexico plus four would be the play here,

707
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 2>just because they're better than Boise. Boise is not not

708
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:30.800
<v Speaker 2>a bad team by any means, but they're seventeen to

709
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 2>eight and they're going to have to absolutely win their

710
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:36.840
<v Speaker 2>league tournament to get in. They're They're not usually Boise

711
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:38.480
<v Speaker 2>is a team that might get in without winning the

712
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Mountain West but not this year. All right, quick break,

713
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<v Speaker 2>we'll take our final brick, actually come back on the

714
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<v Speaker 2>other side and then wrap it up. So hang out

715
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<v Speaker 2>right here. Sports Talk seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Niner now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>Not something you see very often. North Carolina has announced

719
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.840
<v Speaker 2>that with snow and ice causing some travel issues, I

720
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't realize the snow has gone from this area to

721
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:13.639
<v Speaker 2>Chapel Hill or at least that area, you know, that region.

722
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:17.760
<v Speaker 2>They've decided to let fans in for free, so if

723
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:19.400
<v Speaker 2>you can get there, you just walk in. They're not

724
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:22.760
<v Speaker 2>even taking tickets. Nice. I'm gonna also factor in that

725
00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:25.840
<v Speaker 2>they suck as another reason why they did this, But

726
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:29.639
<v Speaker 2>and I mean, I guess when it comes to just

727
00:36:29.719 --> 00:36:33.440
<v Speaker 2>looking at raw numbers that that's the only reason they

728
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:37.639
<v Speaker 2>can still be considered for the tournament according to these bracketologists.

729
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:41.199
<v Speaker 2>But I am, I mean, they just keep losing, and

730
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 2>when they do beat teams that are like really bad

731
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:47.480
<v Speaker 2>that they're supposed to beat, they don't beat them by

732
00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:51.039
<v Speaker 2>very much Like they nearly lost to who was it

733
00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 2>like Carolina. Their their last four wins have come against

734
00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:02.039
<v Speaker 2>cal Boston College in overtime, pitts Burg by one, and

735
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 2>then Syracuse by six, and Syracuse sucks out loud. I

736
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:10.719
<v Speaker 2>mean Syracuse lost to Miami, So I don't know. Just

737
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Carolina being fifteen to eleven and yet still people mentioning

738
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 2>them as a potential tournament team as wild insane. It

739
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:20.440
<v Speaker 2>is absolutely insane. So I'll watch a little college hoops

740
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:22.880
<v Speaker 2>tonight and then it's right back to land Man Austin

741
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<v Speaker 2>let Go. I'll let you know when I finished it

742
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.599
<v Speaker 2>so we can have a segment on it, because one

743
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<v Speaker 2>of the best shows I've watched in a long time.

744
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<v Speaker 2>Me and Sydney are excited for you. It's good, good stuff.

745
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<v Speaker 2>All right, have a good night, everybody. We'll talk to

746
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<v Speaker 2>you tomorrow right here on Sports Talk seven ninety