Speaker 1: I totally Cunningham, the Great American back from the investiture
Speaker 1: of this or fancy work created by lawyers, the investigor
Speaker 1: of Joseph T and T Jaters from Supreme Court of Ohio.
Speaker 1: He was sworn in yesterday by Tanyo O'Rourke and his
Speaker 1: kids also robed him.
Speaker 2: So to speak.
Speaker 1: I had some funging comments to make about Joe TNT Deaters.
Speaker 1: I'll tell the story briefly. I know Jim mooreing time
Speaker 1: is valuable and he's waiting. But in nineteen eighty five,
Speaker 1: I was down in the Hamlet County Board of Elections
Speaker 1: doing my show as I did every election cycle, and
Speaker 1: I always dealt with the big issues and the big candidates.
Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty five, and a guy named Joe Dieters
Speaker 1: is running with Frank Weichel, and there was two seats
Speaker 1: to be elected in Springfield Township. The incumbents were Frank
Speaker 1: Weichel of the inquir and also John wax Munsky. And
Speaker 1: running with Frank Weichael was a young man named Joe Dieters.
Speaker 1: And he taps you on the shoulder at the Board
Speaker 1: of Elections doing my show during the break, and I
Speaker 1: turn around and he as on the shoulder and said, hey,
Speaker 1: can I get on the air? And I said, what's
Speaker 1: your name? He said, Joe Dieters. I said, didn't you
Speaker 1: just lose to John wax Munsky. He said, yes I did.
Speaker 1: I said, you got no chance, You're done. No, you
Speaker 1: can't get on the air. So with that yesterday, I
Speaker 1: turn around and point to justice Joe Dieters and I said,
Speaker 1: I guess I was wrong. Something became of that guy.
Speaker 1: But that's a different issue. And also we got you
Speaker 1: se and Xavier's just dominating their leagues. You see, looks great, wonderful.
Speaker 1: It's a big ten, big twelve, big fourteen, not sure
Speaker 1: what it is. And of course Xavier is unbelievable. They're
Speaker 1: at home, they're undefeated, untied, unscored on and I think
Speaker 1: the two teams have played a total of nine games
Speaker 1: in their league and they're one in eight, kind of
Speaker 1: like the Bengal was the first two games of the
Speaker 1: season for the last five or six years. But joining
Speaker 1: me now with glory as Jim Mooring at the Holy
Speaker 1: Grail and also from the banks, Jim, is there anything
Speaker 1: we look forward to other than the Reds pitchers and
Speaker 1: Casher's reporting in thirty two days athletically.
Speaker 3: You know, eleven weeks from tomorrow you will be down
Speaker 3: at my wonderful establishment and giving us an oration that
Speaker 3: I will tell you I have them all recorded from
Speaker 3: the last ten years, and one gets better than the other. Well,
Speaker 3: start writing down the notes. Do you think the Supreme
Speaker 3: Court Justice will come and join us on opening day
Speaker 3: this year?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if he.
Speaker 3: Does, I'm gonna bring up this story about this guy
Speaker 3: wax Monsky. I gotta think it's wax Monsky.
Speaker 1: Wax Monsky. But to his credit, Joe went he won
Speaker 1: the next eleven races. But nonetheless, to start off with
Speaker 1: that lass, you know he when's.
Speaker 2: Out there working hard, and he's working hard for us.
Speaker 1: Now all right now, he says working double. I mean,
Speaker 1: he is doing great work. And I love the guy.
Speaker 1: If he was a woman, I kiss him right on
Speaker 1: the lips. Of course, he's got Tanyo O'Rourke to do that.
Speaker 1: Waking up every morning with her is not a bad thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I could not agree more. She seems like a fan.
Speaker 1: He's a wonderful being. She's a good lady.
Speaker 2: When you when you when you had all your willies.
Speaker 3: Didn't you always dream of Hey, this would be great
Speaker 3: with the Bengals going nine and eight.
Speaker 2: The Reds were not at the park.
Speaker 3: Now the thing that should be leading us through the
Speaker 3: winter season. Oh, I beloved UC Bearcats and Zager looking
Speaker 3: the way they do.
Speaker 1: Miller time. It's Miller time at both schools. Time to
Speaker 1: start drinking. But can we talk about the facts. We
Speaker 1: had a news conference about a half an hour ago
Speaker 1: and it dealt with I guess the powers that be
Speaker 1: are kind of saying, at least now that the new
Speaker 1: so called Colisseum will not be at the banks, will
Speaker 1: not be in its present location. It's going to be
Speaker 1: maybe over the overlap of I seventy five when they
Speaker 1: redo that thing in maybe the twenty second century. Or
Speaker 1: it might be up by t It might be up
Speaker 1: by FCC Stadium, might be there might be somewhere else.
Speaker 1: And what are the merchants that the banks think about this?
Speaker 3: You know, the first and foremost we've been talking about
Speaker 3: this arena. You know in two thousand and one, yes
Speaker 3: when I was named the vice president and general manager
Speaker 3: down at then the First Star Center now Herodag's Bank Arena.
Speaker 3: You know, we went in there, and we knew that
Speaker 3: the arena haanced issues that had been renovated in ninety seven,
Speaker 3: and we started the conversations about either renovating or moving
Speaker 3: things forward.
Speaker 2: So for it to get to a point now where
Speaker 2: the Chamber has.
Speaker 3: Stepped in really taken a grasp of this thing and said, Okay,
Speaker 3: we're lining everybody up.
Speaker 2: We need a new arena. The folks that run.
Speaker 3: The arena right now, they're great folks. They are busting
Speaker 3: their butts. They've got some great events down there, but
Speaker 3: they know that they have challenges now. They know that
Speaker 3: we need something challenging. So to get to a point
Speaker 3: where we are all now aligned to say, hey, let's
Speaker 3: get everybody on the same page.
Speaker 2: We need a new arena in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: But is it going to you want it to be.
Speaker 1: Let's cut through the bs. You wanted to be in
Speaker 1: this present location and the powers that be Brendan Call, etc.
Speaker 1: Don't want to put it there. Correct.
Speaker 3: Well, the study came out and it didn't have that listed.
Speaker 3: What we're saying is, you know, as you know, there's
Speaker 3: been about three billion dollars spent on the infrastructure for
Speaker 3: the banks, right, A lot of money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we hosts.
Speaker 3: You know, this past year you had Luke Combes and
Speaker 3: the Reds on the same night. Two years ago you
Speaker 3: had Taylor Swift and the Reds on the same night.
Speaker 3: They brought october Fest to us. This year, everybody is
Speaker 3: very comfortable and understanding on how to get to the banks.
Speaker 3: All of the infrastructure being all the roads, all the highways.
Speaker 3: You know, remember how Fort Washington Way was that spaghetti mess.
Speaker 3: They streamlined it. You have a huge Second and Third
Speaker 3: Street that was all designed to handle the crowds for
Speaker 3: Paul Brown Stadium, for the American, for your ballpark, and
Speaker 3: for the arena. It was all gritted to make sure
Speaker 3: that this was all centered around the Banks. We have
Speaker 3: all spent a lot of money making sure that that
Speaker 3: infrastructure was going to be there. Secondly, you have a
Speaker 3: five thousand person parking garage that is right underneath all
Speaker 3: of us, that feeds all of us. Our contention is
Speaker 3: will be and we're going to add Look, this is
Speaker 3: to advocate to have the arena at the Banks, and
Speaker 3: that is what we are going.
Speaker 2: To continue to do.
Speaker 3: Not only do all the infrastructure numbers point that way,
Speaker 3: but the actual cost points that way.
Speaker 2: You know, there is a study.
Speaker 3: I'm told that the arena will fit where it's at
Speaker 3: and that it would be approximately six hundred and six
Speaker 3: million dollars versus what the study is coming out and
Speaker 3: saying anywhere from eight hundred and fifty or I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: six hundred.
Speaker 2: And fifty million to eight hundred million. We think it's
Speaker 2: the best choice.
Speaker 1: Whoever, whoever pays for, whoever pays for the band calls
Speaker 1: the tune and the chamber, who's putting up the money
Speaker 1: for this? Because you know, we've got a billionaire and
Speaker 1: a billion there, and suddenly we're to start talking about
Speaker 1: real money. Who's going to pay for like seven hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars?
Speaker 2: Well, and that's look.
Speaker 3: If somebody is going to come out and there as
Speaker 3: a private investor that's going to come out and say, hey,
Speaker 3: here's you know, four or five hundred million dollars towards
Speaker 3: this project, right, they can pick wherever the heck they want.
Speaker 2: To put it. That's awesome, that's fantastic. I would love
Speaker 2: to see that. If we're going to get public college involved.
Speaker 3: You know, we need to have I don't even say
Speaker 3: a thing not seated at the table. We're just here
Speaker 3: advocating saying doesn't make the most sense to utilize all
Speaker 3: the assets that are currently in place and put this
Speaker 3: arena where you know it is currently or some version
Speaker 3: of that at the banks.
Speaker 1: Now, let me let me ask you a big question, Jay,
Speaker 1: Are you ready for the big question? Early on Jim
Speaker 1: Brendan call in the chamber along with the powers that be,
Speaker 1: does not have the present location in the final three.
Speaker 1: They must know that they're not. They must know everything
Speaker 1: you know, and so they factor every thing you said
Speaker 1: and everything you believe, especially at your news conference half
Speaker 1: an hour ago. A factor that in not selecting the
Speaker 1: Heritage Bank Center is the place. So what are they
Speaker 1: thinking that you may bee maybe you don't know, don't
Speaker 1: relate or whatever it be. Could it be that lender
Speaker 1: at FCC is going to put up the five hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars and put it right next to TQL Stadium.
Speaker 2: That would be fantastic private money. That's that's their call, Willy.
Speaker 3: You know that that's free enterprise, right, If that's where
Speaker 3: you know, if their donors or people that are going
Speaker 3: to take on this project, I would love.
Speaker 2: Them for it. It would be fantastic. Put it wherever
Speaker 2: they heck they want to put that.
Speaker 3: That is their prerogative as entrepreneurs, as business owners.
Speaker 2: More power to you.
Speaker 3: But you know what we're hearing, and it's very public,
Speaker 3: was that you know, two thirds of this project is
Speaker 3: going to be publicly financed. A third will be having financed. Okay,
Speaker 3: if there's two thirds that it's going to be public dollars,
Speaker 3: we're advocating that it is down at the banks.
Speaker 1: And the other the other factor, Jim Mooring of Holy
Speaker 1: Grail and the banks, is this that I can recall
Speaker 1: about twenty years ago when Chas Lucan the first is
Speaker 1: like Ramsys, he's going to put a lid over the
Speaker 1: top of Fort Washington Way, and they did certain infrastructure
Speaker 1: to make sure the lid would work in the future.
Speaker 1: And now they're talking about taking that lid, put it
Speaker 1: on Fort Washington Way where the snow can ut be cleared,
Speaker 1: and that's going to be reclaimed ten to fifteen acres,
Speaker 1: which is right up against the banks.
Speaker 2: I'll ask you the question, fantastic is.
Speaker 1: That a reality at this point some twenty years later
Speaker 1: or not?
Speaker 3: Well, I will tell you since you want to invoke
Speaker 3: our mayor Luken, when I took this arena out of
Speaker 3: Bennett Eye. When we took the arena out of bankruptcy,
Speaker 3: I was the vice president and general manager starting in
Speaker 3: two thousand and one. I had all kinds of ideas
Speaker 3: and things we want to do, and here's how we
Speaker 3: need to change some things and we can renovate and
Speaker 3: do some more stuff. And I was holding a press
Speaker 3: conference because we had gone out and secured conference USA's
Speaker 3: department for was it two thousand and two or yeah,
Speaker 3: two thousand and two, And I'm all excited. I'm meeting
Speaker 3: the mayor for the first time. And he looked at
Speaker 3: me and he said, Jimmy, we should have got a
Speaker 3: new arena when we did these other two buildings. We
Speaker 3: screwed it up. We should have put everything together. So
Speaker 3: that was, you know, I hate to say it, I'm
Speaker 3: getting a little bit older. That was twenty three years ago,
Speaker 3: and it was identified and then as an issue. It
Speaker 3: is identified now is a huge issue, and you know,
Speaker 3: we need to get moving on this. I think everybody's
Speaker 3: lock step down. I think it's a fantastic thing that
Speaker 3: we've got to this point. You know, as a business
Speaker 3: owner down there, the great thing about it, Willie is
Speaker 3: you know the folks that run the arena right now
Speaker 3: are busting their asses with some great events. You know,
Speaker 3: that's the thing that people tend to forget is artists
Speaker 3: want to come to the city. They just had Jelly Role,
Speaker 3: your favorite artist, you know, Jelly Roll.
Speaker 1: I love Jelly row Man. He had that song almost
Speaker 1: religious in its context. And you do know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know Jelly rolls Save me, Lord, Save me. I
Speaker 1: like Jelly Roll and his life and from a prison
Speaker 1: cell to music city. I mean, you're talking about a
Speaker 1: guy that lived at all, heroin dealer, ank, all over
Speaker 1: his body, fat as the segment, terrible condition. Now he's
Speaker 1: running marathons and he's a star. I love jelly Roll.
Speaker 1: In fact, I like to enjoy. I like to bak somehow,
Speaker 1: and then I love.
Speaker 3: Jelly Rom Back off the segment.
Speaker 4: I'm affording the facts the facts. That's all I do
Speaker 4: as a business owner at the banks and I and
Speaker 4: this is not just the Holy ground. I have to say,
Speaker 4: this is all the bank's stakeholders steel. The same way,
Speaker 4: the fact that Jelly Roll was there on a Monday
Speaker 4: night November was.
Speaker 2: Huge for a business.
Speaker 3: In fact, by Elish came in, you had Dayton and
Speaker 3: you see playing down there, you know on a Friday
Speaker 3: night in December huge for us.
Speaker 2: This week you've got certain piece of a coming in.
Speaker 2: Oh if you look at the.
Speaker 3: Counter in January and February, that arena is busy virtually
Speaker 3: every Friday and Saturday night. That's import a time when
Speaker 3: we would when we would be the slowest. You know,
Speaker 3: Ray and Christmas Looks are busting their butt. They know,
Speaker 3: just like everybody else does. That arena has challenges. And
Speaker 3: it's time for the city, the county, everybody to get
Speaker 3: together and embrace the fact that, yes, we need a
Speaker 3: new arena.
Speaker 1: It's got to happen with Ennersey Center, with a new hotel.
Speaker 1: And you can't you can't have a crappy arena. I
Speaker 1: know Heritage is punching above their pay grade, but let's
Speaker 1: face it, it can't be. It's got to be modern,
Speaker 1: it's got to be built, it's got to be somewhere.
Speaker 1: I'm going to have on later Brendan call. What should
Speaker 1: we tell Brent? What should I tell Brendan call of
Speaker 1: the chamber about why it should be.
Speaker 2: At the banks. It makes the most sense. It's just
Speaker 2: it's you know, when.
Speaker 3: Our buddy Mo always says, where's the common sense guy
Speaker 3: at I want to be the common sense guy that says,
Speaker 3: too many things lead to.
Speaker 2: Lead us to this.
Speaker 3: It brings us right back to the bank's location, and
Speaker 3: let's let's have the meaningful conversation about that.
Speaker 2: And you know, that's what we're going to do next.
Speaker 2: We are going to go to the elected officials and say, hey,
Speaker 2: we're down here. We're going to raise our hand and maybe.
Speaker 3: Stump our feet a little bit and say, you know,
Speaker 3: this is this is kind of weird that we were
Speaker 3: left out of this process.
Speaker 2: All right, Jim, that's the process. But yeah, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, yea, that it should be identified, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, if someone puts up the money, so be it.
Speaker 1: But if it's mainly public money, then the public needs
Speaker 1: an input, a big input.
Speaker 2: Agree, a thousand agree, one thousand percent.
Speaker 3: Look if somebody, if somebody's coming up with that check,
Speaker 3: i'd love them, thank you for doing it, thanks for
Speaker 3: helping out the city. But if it's going to be
Speaker 3: two thirds public money, then you know, let's do what
Speaker 3: we think is the right thing and the most prudent thing,
Speaker 3: and that's to put the urn into Thanks.
Speaker 1: All right, Jim Mooring on at four to my speech
Speaker 1: on Red's opening day, and this year, I have a
Speaker 1: eleven weeks eleven more. It's going to be unbelievable and
Speaker 1: the play is gonna be hopefully that's not bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do with him and
Speaker 1: Matt McLain. I thought he was kind of uh the
Speaker 1: second basement. Maybe not in of course you have you
Speaker 1: have Martee at a third not performing, so we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens.
Speaker 2: But uh, I'm more, Yeah, I could not. I am
Speaker 2: so I'm optimist.
Speaker 1: I'm optimistic.
Speaker 2: You got t have you have you met?
Speaker 3: Have you met?
Speaker 2: You got to talk to Tito yet?
Speaker 1: No I haven't. Uh, Marty and I and Tino are
Speaker 1: going to play golf when he gets back here because
Speaker 1: he wants got to ken woodn't play. And I said, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I need a fourth year it because we've got to
Speaker 1: get out there. I think I love that guy. He
Speaker 1: was Michael Jordan's baseball manager, and uh he's got a
Speaker 1: couple of World Series rings and they wouldn't have hired him,
Speaker 1: but they weren't ready to win. And I think the
Speaker 1: Reds this year are ready to win. I might be wrong.
Speaker 1: I've been proven wrong in the past since nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: now thirty five years, but this point is at the
Speaker 1: point I think the reds are going to arise. It's
Speaker 1: going to be the hunt for a Red's October, is
Speaker 1: what I say. Yeah, I cannot agree more. And you
Speaker 1: know what next year, are beloved bangles, watch out, watch out.
Speaker 2: I think this is a wake up call this year.
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope. All I have is hope. That's
Speaker 1: all I have is hope. And Jim moooring, I'll do
Speaker 1: my part and thank you very much and we'll see you.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Yeah, I appreciate you so so much.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Hi, Jim, You're the best.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more. I'm going to get into the
Speaker 1: issue also as to why your street isn't cleared. I've
Speaker 1: spoken to some public officials who try to explain it
Speaker 1: to me that at one point you have the township
Speaker 1: or the city, at another point you have the county
Speaker 1: or the state. Then another point you got the state
Speaker 1: or the Fed. You've got the Feds of the state,
Speaker 1: the county of the city, the township of the city, municipality,
Speaker 1: and then you go back and forth, and I want
Speaker 1: to know what in the hell is going on around
Speaker 1: this place, and why can't you get off Mount Adams.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
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