Speaker 1: His wife said he began going to a shed and
he drilled the peep hole out to this to know
who was coming. Well, whilst I tell it someone was
after that? Was it a demon? Was it some et
group or was it MI I five or Marconi themselves?
And do you think if you were a car crash
to kill yourself, do you want to burn to death?
Speaker 2: Sits, a married man aged thirty seven and recently returned
from the holiday, had stacked ten gallons of petrol bos
his master car, more than eighty miles prime and disused
roadside cafe near Basingstoke. Colleagues and families say he had
been depressed and police are working on the theory that
he deliberately crashed the car. SAMs was said to be
a brilliant scientist and had just finished a three year
contract working on top secret radar system.
Speaker 1: And it's astonishing if you think you bring an alien
substance back to a normal electronics company and no matter
how abouts they are imagine this shit, it's alien way
out and they try and then tame it and it
doesn't quite work, and there's a fallout. My theories the
fallout is the death that happened in Marconi. If you
don't give these switch offs, I'm going to nuke Gardin
and this is true, I'm going to New Guargentina.
Speaker 3: You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network and now
it's time for the Paranormal Peep Show.
Speaker 4: Hi, welcome to the Paranormal Peep Show.
Speaker 5: So we are joined once again by co hosts Ben
emin Jones.
Speaker 4: How are you Ben? Hello? Neil very well? Thank you? Yeah,
good to be back on the show. This is a
bit of an exclusive and I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 6: Yes, very excited.
Speaker 5: And we've got Andy Chapman as well join us in Hertfordshire.
How are you Andy?
Speaker 7: Pretty good?
Speaker 4: Neil.
Speaker 7: I think we're talking about the black Goo. I'd be
the black Goo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's doing a very vote.
Speaker 7: If our a listener don't know what that's about, they'll
need to listen to some of Myles Johnson's It's podcast
on black It's not a program about malassic so cooking
or anything like that.
Speaker 5: It's quite a serious topic actually, and I do have
some weird connections in direct Rangel.
Speaker 7: I mean the thing is as a paranoral peep show
is meant to be about the weird and the wonderful
and this is going properly in a tangent of weird,
but it's it's quite a fascinating topic and quite an
interesting topic to gill our teeth into, isn't it so?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and absolutely presenting this topic is none of the
main researcher in this area himself is David Griffis. And
Griffin sorry, I've really got him, Griffin, yeah, sorry, beg
your pardon. So David, welcome very much to the Paranormal
Peep Show.
Speaker 6: And it's good to see you. And how are you okay?
Speaker 4: And I know all you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've met you, Neil, but I
appreciate the invite onto your show. I've known Ben for
like Lydiel twenty years. Me and him have been hope
lobbying around conferences for probably twenty twenty two years. I
met Andy at the last event to the UFO Academy
and he does a fantastic Donald Trump impression and I
sent him at the time he said, my god, if
any Aaron needs a bit of humor, is the uk
UFO conspiracy scene, because there are a light road of
boring efforts.
Speaker 7: Honestly, you know what the only the only black gul
that I'm interested in is oil. Okay, it's a little
baby earlier.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, are you get to it? And I'm going
to give you a good job. You're going to get
a good job. I give you a job in the
Black Gooo. I'm see I know good. I'm no good?
Speaker 4: Agree? Yeah.
Speaker 1: See if you say it's the great job term you
say just right?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you for the invite. And why I
think it's interesting?
Speaker 4: Is you.
Speaker 1: Carry on yet?
Speaker 5: I'm going to say, is this the black good Is?
It's nothing to do with Dallas and oil industries?
Speaker 6: Is it? Just so people are not going to turn
off straight away? We're talking about something a bit more
stranger than that.
Speaker 5: But tell us about your beginnings, David, how he got
into all of this stuff?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Well, I'll just say first, I don't think anyone wilton
off on the Black Goop, because I'll just say this
before I sort of give myself a very quick introduction.
I don't think anyone willton off because astonishingly, I mean
back into thousand and ten eleven, when I met a
contact tea from New Zealand and worked with Duncan Rose
from Nexus magazine Australia. This whole sort of idea of
this black gutam came up and when I researched it
on Google, it's just this term. When it came about,
which you'll hear about it in a minute, it has
like twenty returns on Google. You know, Google at that
time is just growing and starting to return all these results.
And you could get better results on Google. Hey to
say it, but it's true than most other places. Now
you go and have a look, you're up to like
forty fifty, one hundred thousands. It's something last I look.
So the black gu term has become a meme. And
it's interesting that my mind is very interesting in things
like language. A Hawa has been interested. I've done other
sourts on alien language and how that works in telepathy
and stuff. And so a meme or a men like
black goo seems to have done so well just in
the space of nine ten years. It then moves from
twenty results on Google all the way to then like
we're now at like fifty whatever it is, you can
look at it yourself. So somehow given this an underground theme,
fair enough, the blackgoo was also used in things is
the Antarctic, the Blob, the films like The Blob, which
you'll all know, and other things where some sort of goo,
intelligent goo is used. There's been in a few films,
but not many in the seventies. So, but I think
the goo reflects the wider theme of the whole Falklands, Marconi,
the death that go on, and all the other stuff
that happened during the war and the eighties. So yeah,
So it's an interesting area that I think represents the
way that people are really interested in this stuff. So
even ten years later, I'm still doing talks and presentations
on this and people are still intrigued by it. Really,
So my back John to comme in. Sorry, dear John,
come in.
Speaker 4: There or anyone, just say yeah.
Speaker 7: For people who don't know what this is about, David,
if you want to, if you want to kind of
go into the basics of your background and then get
into what is the black go, where does it come from,
and how does it relate to the Falklands and Marconi.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, you know, I'm one of those souls that
was very strange as a kid. My moment bought age fourteen,
I pessed my off for a UFO book. And brought
one from for this is going back to like the
the sort of what early early early eighties, and uh,
when she brought me this UFO book, which she totally regretted, right,
I come from a very I come for a background
of quake Quakers and Methodists. I mean, but we're talking
hardcore Methodists, right, which means you know, teetotal, all that
sort of stuff. And so this is not the sort
of thing you do. So she regretted buying me this book,
but intrigued me. And for some reason it resonated and
and and the so the eaty contact UFO theme. And
again that's just one thing. What does that mean? That
just means that's an area that you're attracted to. It
is to do with something a bit different to every
day plodding life, and and that so that so so
so that that was it. And essentially so after getting
this sort of bug, I then went So I ended
up going, uh, left home quite early age sixteen, but
I went to do a degree. I did a degree
in peace studies at Bradford University in the nineties. And
this is a course that missus Thatcher tried to shut down.
So you can see some themes coming. So I did
a degree in peace studies, again also called had an
element of conflict resolution, and I found that the et
area sort of fitted into this because I was, you know,
when I did this course at university, when I was
sort of in my late teens early twenties, I was like,
why on earth should we mop up these efforts? These
upper leads seemed to make wars and then it's our
job to go, oh, right, well, will mop it up?
You know, charities, whoever it is, we you know, we
pay their we pay the funds for these militaries. And
it always struck me as as outrageous and the only
the only people I could find, or people, the only
texts I could find that were going, your planet is
ludicrous and your human species is ludicrous. Were if you
read some contact accounts where they were saying, you know,
you're you're doing all this war. You've got these nuclear
bombs and stuff. So it really attracted me, and so
I sort of finished that and then via a few
diversions into the rave and the rave scene, the psychedelic
rave scene in which was the old acid house scene
and the early nineties and stuff in the DIY party scene,
then I sort of moved on. Then I worked. I
worked for the exopolitics things. So I set up the
first UK exopolitics site and that did that did really well.
So that's like a guy called Michael Saler who's gone
a bit off kilter to me from He's gone in
some very strange areas. But at the start of two
thousand and three the exopolitics movement did did some really
good stuff. There's there's a place called There's a cycle,
the Exopolitics Journal, which dealt with the very early stuff
to do with what hamms, and this is crucial. It
comes right up to the Marconi stuff. What happens when
if an ET federation comes and tries to interact with
us because perhaps they want to meet us, you know
in the usual sort of sense, or perhaps is it
time now for humans and ets to you know, forget
what you think about good and bad ets, what the
impact on us and our political systems and our wider systems.
So so Salah's Exopolitic stuff did some really good stuff
on that, and so went through this and the peak
I'll just say, this is the peak of Sorry, I
need to put my laptop in right.
Speaker 7: Just quickly, to do the rave scene, would they? Yeah,
was there any connection with that, with the UFOs and
the extra politics in terms of, for instance, people doing
psychedelics and then opening up to channeling or anything like that,
that is that.
Speaker 1: For dealing with It's sorry, I hope you do have
to edit this out.
Speaker 4: There was I'm a sucking well Davis doing I could
say that there was. There was always a kind of
like in the rave scene. There was always a kind
of like openness to like fringe ideas. I know that
one of the one of the biggest acts on that
scene was KLF and they were into Robert Anton Wilson
and a lot of the music was only later when
I read the books that I realized that their music.
I love their music from the start, but then a
lot of their stuff was around the number twenty three
and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of symbolism I noticed. But for instance,
this is going way way back to the nineties. People
had what was it stussy jackets, those black nylon jackets,
and they often have like alien gray smoking spliffs. Is
kind of like the iconography and along with the acid
kind of like smiley face, you'd also have kind of
like the alien gray face as well.
Speaker 1: See God Bless you, Neil, I got sorry for God
Bless you. And if you mentioned that, because it's interesting that.
I mean, when I met you at the UFO Academy event,
I said, all right, you're you're dressed in this sort
of CyberDog sort of stuff, and there was a club
that linked to the clothing store. I think you said
you've got this stuff from. But you make a really
good point there, because if you've experienced psychedelics, including d
m T, which of course I mean, we don't go
off on this sort of stuff here, but the whole
idea is, well, will some of these psychedelic substances, whether
you're a rave or not, or whether you're doing these
substances on your own, then you tend to find this
sort of transcendent moment off into these other spaces and
so on. D MT. I'll just I'll just give a
brief summary of this I took on I think one
of the first DMT doses that sort of came into England.
So this is some terrace Mchael's brother right. Very few
people got it. We had to draw straws and I
ended up getting a straw and it's to a degree.
I did come downstairs after Tea went my god, I
don't want to distribute this to people not saying this
is not a drug dealing thing, because it shocked me.
It existentially shocked me so much that I it really
but it really shook the core of my being, which
doesn't happen very often to many of us. And I think,
I think, yeah, psychotic said designed to do that. But
what's interesting with the RAI scene is that you when
you're out there, especially in the outdoor events, you're taking psychedelics, whatever,
then you get this called communal feeling and the whole
idea that you're perhaps merging earth and sky, all these
hippie cliches and stuff. You know, you might see a
few things that that make you feel this this sort
of cosmic way. And it's interesting because ten or twelve
years later, when it came to starting some of the
contact stuff that Ben came along and did one of
the very early things too, then it's a very similar
feeling to do with this that you know, you get
these craft flying around and the C five sort of contact,
then a similar sort of feeling happens. So there's some
link between the cycle, its state and the whole maybe
the whole idea of the craft maybe due to turn
up in the next few years to come encounter us
as a species on this planet. But anyway, that's a
separate sort of thing too. Let me let me just
finish so the the so really after then after after
doing the sort of the race stuff for whatever else,
then essentially the exopolitics thing, I'll just say one thing,
the the whole idea. What that's interesting between the why
called the Anaki Ufo scenes. So we used to have
Graham Burzil who you'll probably know who did was it
UFO magazine?
Speaker 4: Ben?
Speaker 1: Who the grain Burstil?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Ye?
Speaker 4: The original conference? I never went to them. Unfull show
started with Anziy Beckett's conferences. But he used to do
these great conferences in Leeds, you know, and run.
Speaker 1: The magazine is yeah, a magazine I think call was
it called UFO or whatever?
Speaker 4: I can't guard.
Speaker 1: It's a long time but a great guy. But you know,
they did really well with the audiences. But the I'll
just say this, so so the exopologists came along because
it's sort of it was sort of a way of saying,
my god, well, how long do we go along being
sort of these people are just spotting lights in the
sky what happens on a polistical and cultural level, which
I really liked. I thought that was interesting. And the
peak result of that was I think twenty ten, when
we had lots of European exopolitics websites and collectives going.
So we went to Spain and we got astonishing audient
and I think we'd beat every audience apart from the
recent ones that have been done in what's that place
called something in the desert? I'll contact all the desert, right, Yeah,
I mean they got a huge audience and stuff, but
I think we got like two and a half thousand
people made maybe more, and that was in a hotel
in Spain, and that was just this exopoltist which most
people haven't heard of seen. So that whole area did
really well. But the point was why did I fall
out with that area? And that's because they refused in
a weird way because it was all to do with
file release of governments, So you know, who's releasing files?
What are they allowing us to see? And all the
other stuff to do with governments and military whistleblowers and
government whistleblowers, which take.
Speaker 4: You so far?
Speaker 1: What did Exopologist didn't What did it not include? And
that was to do with contact ease and the power
of contact ease to add to the narrative of disclosure.
And that was my big issue because I was leaning
more towards that. So I left the expotics thing and
I went into my own contact stuff. I've had huge
stuff there and it's an interesting area. Perhaps we can
cover it another time if you want me back on
your show. But until that point, but here's the segue
between the two. Just at that moment, I was getting
tired of the exopolitics sort of theme. It was going
a bit wacky for me. What happened is I ended
up a great friend of mine from Australia sent me
a DVD which was done by a guy. It's called
Nexus Magazine from Australia and it had a guy who
talked about the Falklands. His name is Alec Nuld.
Speaker 4: So this is a.
Speaker 1: Conference DVD that I got really quite late after it
and this guy called Alec Nuld's soho i'd heard of before.
I knew done a book, but I didn't know much
about it. What I didn't know is that his sperit
it centered mostly on the Falkland Isles, which of course
we're all Brits. We know that that was a core war.
I mean, I don't know if you're as ancient old
as me, but there's a core war that went on
in eighty one eighty two. And so all I did
I wrote, I wrote, I think what's interesting is Alan
Nules on this Nexus and Nexus magazine a big magazine.
I mean that you know the guy whos run the
magazine on a shoe string for ages. It's a great magazine.
And interestingly, when when this conference went out, then I
think that Alan Yuld, now I know him, I get
what perhaps why I did this, But he made a
point of saying something like not not if any British
people out there, but he made a point of going
the Falkland Isles. We don't know much about it, but
I was told this was central and here's the points
about the Falkland Islands to do with his contact and
what was going on down there. And don't forget the
Falken Islands are very close to Antarctica. So I wrote
to him and from then on we this is like
twenty ten, twenty eleven. We then developed a relationship with
also with Duncan from next I've seen where for like
five six, seven years. We then went on and researched
the whole issue between and this is the crucial bit.
At these are the points and I wish I had
a bit more the ability to quickly pop up, pop
up some images and some slides and stuff, because it
makes it a bit more clear. But if you've got
to imagine if you're going to understand this area, it's
hugely complex. But it also isn't you know, in a
way it slides together so perfectly, and so you've got
essentially you've got a war went on in the Falklands
down down in that area of the Falklands. There were
some etis linked to the guy this contact to Alan
Yuld and his whole account is so authentic. I mean,
if you're an idiot, if you don't believe it within
the first five secings, then you've got no brain. I
mean it's easy. I mean he got arrested. Interesting, he
got arrested in the center of jail over this. But
there's an English link that's fascinating that you'll offered. You'll
all three, all three of you will know of a
strange shady group called Chathamhouse.
Speaker 4: Yes, Royal Institutent's National Affairs.
Speaker 1: That's it, you see. And they but they're other, you're right, Ben,
And their other name is REA or the Royal Issue
of International Affairs, and they're linked to the Queen and
all this stuff. And the last shot I remember looking
at the time was off sort of missus Thatcher, she
was sat there and the Queen and stuff. I mean,
the sort of thing you think, well, are these people
interested in the UFO issue? And you go, you're kidding me?
My god, them Morris? Is it in which Samon has
come from Loch Loman's And if it's tasty or that's
that's the royals and missus Thatch for you, right. But
but no, they this rear turned up. They sent them over.
They found out that this my friend from from New
Zealand had basically had been abducted. His car had been
taken away by UFO and as they put the car
back together. Bear with me here sounds wacky. Bear with me.
As as these ets then putting back on the earth,
they weren't expecting to have to do that. He has
to be put back after his experienced. Long story, what
happened is they sort of reformed his car. Well, look
we see this on Star Trek don we altogether, you
know Star Trek doors. This sh all the time in
they made meals and again baking sandwich in their confabulator
or whether it's ah the lovely meal. You know, they
pull these stuff out so this stuff can be done
with molecules. So, but what happens He then put his
car in it wasn't working properly. He rives back after
this contact mission. And but but Jaguarine, New Zealand, and
this is hilarious to me. This is hilarious because my
cousin works quite high up in Jaguar Birmingham, and I've
been dying to ask about this. But I'm a bit
of a black sheep in my family, so I don't
do it right. So I've always wanted to know, my God,
what would happen in this case. So his his car
distributor in Kibi Land in New Zealand sent back the
fact we think is this engine management system very early,
very early on in the whole idea of computer chips.
They send it back to Jaguarin Britain. Jag and Britain go,
oh my god, and who did What's interesting? And again
there's not discussed really who did Jaguine know what? How
did Jaguine Britain know that when they received this circuit board?
Very basic one on the first basics, how did they
know that? Instead of just keeping it within Jaguar herself
in Britain or Jaguar world Ride. No, they sent it
off to someone in some intelligence firm in Britain m
I six, m I five, don't know who. And then
the reaction was then to then send to the contact
in New Zealand, how did you get this this circuit board?
Apparently Jaguar then said in Britain they're like, what the
f This thing is a mirrored? In other words, what
the ets? And and I love this because I've got
a friend of mine to do with Roswell and the
rossworld Craft. He is always like, well, look the rosserld craft.
It shouldn't have it shouldn't have crashed in nineteen forty
seven because the ets are all knowing and they could
have reversed time and all this stuff. And I'm like, look,
look even ets on that just because they're ets, they're
not that they're.
Speaker 4: Not that clever.
Speaker 1: They can't always do stuff. And the same hand with this,
that's the essentially I'm putting this car back together after
his aduction, which included the car, they put back this
circuit board. But it was done in a mirror way
and in a way that makes total sense to me.
You know, even eats don't always get it right. Okay.
So the result was then that after finding this this
circuit board, Jaguar, I mean, it's huge. We all know
Jaguar been going for yours in Britain, some of the
first cars, fantastic cars, right. They were like, no, we're
not having this. What's going on? Alerted British Intelligence, which
then turned out to EA Chattinghouse or r I I.
As as Ben mentioned, they then sent not the usual
men in black types, but some very strange sort of
normal types over with that apparently came from this rear.
But there were engineers to then question that and annuled
on where this stuff had come from. And they've got
a vague idea because of various other things that happened
that they got in touch with South Africans who'd found
out about the ship taken off and the new Zealand
Satellite Intelligence Service. So it gets complex there. So there's
a start to what sort of kicked off this whole thing,
And you know, I a few come back. That's that's
my attempt and introdution. If you come back, if you
want to say which part of you're interesting, I can
sort of plug plug through on a narrative, or we
can do a few of the things. It's up to you.
But it's a huge area. But if you want to
give me some guidance on the bit you're interesting, I'll
go to each other area you're interested.
Speaker 4: I'll shut it. So how did go? And Ben I
was just say this is it's really it is very interesting,
this whole subject and about how it ties in with
the Falklands were and how even when I was even
when I was a little kid and I went I
was the kid at school when the falcons will happened.
But I remember thinking to himself, what's all this about?
What's so special about these islands? Firstly, our government under
Margaret Sasha went to a huge amount of effort to
recapture the islands, And firstly I asked him why was that?
And that led to the inevitable question is why Argentina
invaded in the first place, because I mean, I mean,
I know now because of what's his name, Mille, because
have a Mille. He's kind of kind of said this
almost that the whole what they call Malvinitis, which is
there it's kind of self deprecating joke and Argentina about
this obsession with the falklan Isers. It was essentially a
it was it was a fantasy invented by the military junter,
but it was never You don't carry out invasions because
of a fantasy, you just Argentine itself went to a
huge amount of effort to invade and occupy those islands.
And for what I mean, what's this? What's those special islands?
And of course there's several answers to that, I mean
have been posted. There was an oil field there, which
is the thing is the oil field there's never been
developed considerably. You know, Falklands oil is not a big thing.
But there was some I think David would explained about
the Mexican hats, you know and things. Was it the
the guys with the hats. David will probably explain that
better than me. But that's kind of how where where
the story.
Speaker 1: Goes from so here's so Ben mentioned this, and what's
interesting is, of course that the British and this is
what makes the whole thing a bit bizarre, but also
backs at the points to do with Marconi and this
black goo and why they went in. And then we
get into to you know, I don't want to overload
people on uties this. Then we get into the hole
that I spent many months in a place called Q Gardens,
which is the British Freedom of Information Act Library Center, right, so,
and stuff like photos of stuff like this came up,
and so did reasons about why we were there sort of.
But I'll just say this, so right down there in fact,
Ben's right, let's get a bloody photo. This is it,
because you know everyone people need to see where this is.
And this is why I wish I could just load
the PowerPoint and they click through this, right, which he
says you can do in fans, let's try baseballs.
Speaker 4: But so I recognized that this is the base that
Argentina put on the eye. This is this is not
in the Foulton nineans. This is so in the South
Sandwich Islands, well Southern fuel It's they put it there illegally,
in nineteen seventy six, they set it up. Yeah, no
one could be bothered to really kick them off because
I mean, obviously it was completely legal because this is
still a British it's British territory. But no one because
it was just so far away, you know, no one
could be bothered at going a victim, and so they
just let them get away with But after Falkland's War
they did well you tell a story, Dave were hammened
after that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, well yeah, so we got here again.
It's it's and again, this is my childhood. This is
this is why Alan Yule who'd experienced all this stuff
and was and was told when he spent seven ten
days on this with his his alien peer group, where
they told him all about this and they said, well,
this Falking War was going on, but it's all actually
a lot to do with there's a bass that's actually
producing this sentient nano. This is what I call it,
so not black goo sent in nanos. We're we're all now,
we're all in the AI age, so I don't believe in.
I mean, Blackgood's a great to him, but come on,
we're adults. Let's let's let's you know, we can all
use the dictionary. We're all on the internet where we
see this sort of these sort of words coming up.
You're not a tough he nose twist by just using
the term centience like and it's like, you know, I've
had bople say to me it's like, oh was I
use that term? You know it's just like king read
going by addiction. You know, it's not hard sentient to
nano substance. We know this does. Don't be an imbecile
really pissing me off because you know, in a way,
I think language helps us understand areas. And believe me,
the Illuminati, as I call the mass in noughty, the Illuminati,
they love using language to cloud and obscure our understanding
of things. So we have to make sure that we're
prepared and we understand language. So I'm a big advocate
for like, we'll just find out what words doing and
use words yourself. It's not about big words, but use
them so sentient, nano substance and so these these allies
of Alec and it's again the longest toy. They basically said,
so what's interesting? Ben mentioned their seventy six bang on
interesting the British does send a huge and this is
just a giveaway. I mean, so the British sent down
it's called Operation Keyhole in nineteen seventy six. We sent down.
I mean, I could list them, but it was like
a frigate this. I'm not a navy person. I haven't
got any bell bottoms, so I don't know. But I
couldn't list all the things that went down. There is
like frigate this that anyway, But I'm just astonishing because
or because a few Argentinians they thought they were disguised soldiers.
I've spoken to them and this is the difference. Again.
There's a lot of efforts that have taken my research
and I've gone and said they. I've even had I
think I've now three quote to British soldiers, you know,
And this is why I'm quite happy to do this interview.
I'd like to correct a few things to go honest. The
three people that then have gone on, including had such
a Rawid Miles, John Service, equal, one guy up who
claimed he was there, and even a guy on YouTube.
I said, I said, mate, yeah, Ben, you probably you know,
I don't know. I only counted him a few years ago.
But I'm not a navy man. I don't know about
naval movements and all this stuff that was going on.
What was interesting, as I knew from his language, from
his language, I was like, you weren't there. I know
because I've heard first time accounts of people that were
there and other stuff to do with anyway, And what's
what's what's interesting is then for the same guy and
again this is one of three people have claimed to
be then you've got to say we're all paranoid sort
of conspiracy people. I'm not always leaned towards that way,
but it's it's interesting how many of these are agents
and how many have just deluded people that want a
bit of attention. But I think this guy was that
Miles put on. I let Myles know it, and Miles
it spin Miles it speeds for like two years because
I said, Myles, this guy's fucking do for us. He's
making it up. What's interesting is that years after then,
I had this ride with Miles over this guy a
a a member of the British was it in the Marines,
but he was also sort of that could work out
shipping movements from geolocation. Not that what's what's the word,
but well, latitudes and longitude of ship's logs, right, And
he came on under my comments, but I was very polite.
I just said, don't believe a word of it. I've
heard this and that I don't believe you were there.
And this guy he goes, actually the ship he claims
to be on wasn't anywhere near the Falklands for this.
So so this areas has found a lot of fakers
and other people and that. But in a way, it's
like you've got to ask school why again, what is that?
Why is it that people attracted to actually lying about
this area? But so seventy six keyhole went up, but
they didn't then take on this base to the British,
to the Argentinian. And if you look at this image
here and again, I'll send near some far better. I mean,
I've got far better images. This is not a two
bit as you makes they put together base. This is
a base that's a proper what they call arctic or
antarctic hardened base. It's off the ground, it's high tech,
and I think it held about thirty two people at
one point. But again going back to the guy who
went to miles and the base and stuff. The difference
is that I've I spent time in contacting and I
found the son of one of the guy who's actually
a weatherman on this base, but a proper Argentinian guy,
and he was there when the British came in and
flew helicopters over. So I've got first hand information on
this stuff. And you've got to actually yourself why did
the brid as soon as they set up the space
they send this Operation Keyhole. This is all stuff you
can find in the freedom information stuff Operation Keyhole. But
the key point here and then I'll finish on thought
for a bit. The key point here is what did
I find when I tackled this whole idea with this
alien you know again sending nano or black goo, I
an alien technology which they told that I knew they'd
been de engineering. That's a crucial term since the First
World War era. So they'd found a stash of a
very high tech nano substance in this area of southern though,
and these ets, the linked An and Newles have been
panically trying to de engineer. And that's a crucial because
there's a danger, as we know from nanotech. It's something
that if it spawns, respawns, accelerates, then it can cause chaale.
You have to control this stuff. You have to know
what you're doing because essentially quantum melocke molecular stuff that
can cause huge problems. So it's yeah, right, do you
want to come in there?
Speaker 4: Because I can. I can add something to that later, David,
because it's something happened in another part of the world
related to that. But because just add about Operation Keyhole
that as you can see here, this is a fully
fledged proper, you know, polar base. And indeed the Argentina
had this presence here. It was like scientific research of
some kind. But it's obviously something like this is not
first it's not. Its cost a lot of money and
a lot of effort to set this up and to
maintain it because there's no vegetation there. You can't grow food,
there's no fun that. You could never set up a
farm here. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Good.
Speaker 4: It is an antarctic climate. It's freezing cole all the
year around. It's just penguins there, and so it was
pretty a bit of a miserable place. I wouldn't go
there on holiday really. But what happened was there was
no real effort to actually remove them. It's just because
it was so far away and remote, I say, eviction
seemed to be a bit of superfluous. It was normally bothered.
But after the British victory and then on the Falklands
War in the Falkland Islands and South Georgia and the
liberation of the Falkland Islands dependency, the government decided, well,
let's go sort this out once and for all. Now
we're here, let's go and kick the argies off Southern Siel.
So they sent h mess Endurance down there. That's the
polar as Royal Navy's polar ship with the Royal Marine
Special Boat Squadron and Special Boat Service whatever it's called,
the Special Forces, and they daisy land on the island.
There's three hundreds of these guys. They surrounded the base
order the people inside come out, and because there was
only a handful of them, they very sensibly decided they would.
So they came out with their hands up. They were
taken back on board. They were taking them aboard the
Durance and put in the brig and returned to Argentina.
Now what was and you could see here this is
a I think maybe photo of what's left of the base. Now,
what was the the special forces? They blew the base up.
But if there's actually a photograph somewhere, maybe you've got it, David.
Speaker 1: I've got it.
Speaker 4: I've just put it.
Speaker 1: I've just put it up a notion if Neil can
do it, that the difference between that beautiful and proper
Antarctic base and then have a look at what's left
over afterwards. And this was apparently I don't know whether
it was the Sas or who are the Marines, but
someone came and used it. At the start we thought
it was a mini and you but we're all lost
in like nine to eleven type bulshes, right, so there
wasn't a mini U. They used cutting charges or what's
what's welding? Welding you know when you cut well? Yeah,
or what do you do I don't know anyway what
you do with well to chop things off fast? Maybe
thermos anyway, So Neil, there's what have you put it up?
Speaker 4: Now? I can't sell I can see there's PHYSI off
the remains of the base now. But what's interesting is
the actual it's the actual picture of the aftermath of
the explosion because it's pretty clear that they used a
very large explosion explosion explosive device, a huge bomb to
blow this this thing up. And indeed you can see
and I know people made the mistake of thinking it
was a new It wasn't a new but it was
a very large explosive charge they used. Because there's an
enormous cloud of first mushroom shaped cloud of smoke above
the islands. Should take it from Endurance after the operation.
Speaker 1: From Endurance.
Speaker 4: You think I can't find it anywhere, but I've seen
the photograph. I didn't know if you had that. There
was a photograph showing It's an all black and white
photo showing this huge mushroom crowd above southern Fiel after
they blew the weight up, and I think, see if
i'd find it, I'll send it to you, David, because
I have seen it and it's pretty clear. And of
course this is because what what was really going on
on southern theord which I'm sure you'll explain what was
really going on there and the real and this could be,
it could be this was the entire reason for the war.
Firstly Argentina's invasion and occupation to begin with, and secondly
the government, the effort the government went to liberate the ite,
you would think if it's nowadays, I don't think I
don't think Starma could be bothered quite frankly, but I
mean normally they don't care about things like this. They
just the would be some diplomatic protests and that kind
of be the end of it.
Speaker 1: I know. But you raise it an interesting point, especially
with let's be a bit topical here, even though Neil
says this might go out in March, but we've just
had the old Maduro thing and you know, and what's
interesting is is that of course the British and again
just to give a quick history to this area then
you know around here then don't forget, the name is
sudden Thull or Trully and in German this means this
certain form of energy, you know, which because the Germans,
who are fantastical, the Germans loved in the thirties real
full same sort of thing, full society. The Germans love
this area, They loved Antarctica. They were some of the
first to map it, right, So you've got to ask yourself,
what's you know, what's the what's the relevance of the
name that the Germans gave to it, and and this
sort of if we look at a whole sort of consciousness,
cosmological sort of language grid right, or language sort of vortex,
why would they call this sudden thaw when full represents this.
But what's what? Let me break down what I think
happened before the end of the war. And this is
sort of semi borne out in other ways by the
don't forget you know again, I'm not just some dottter
that found this stuff and decided to waffle bout a
contact to your account or whatever.
Speaker 7: This.
Speaker 1: I went down to Queue Gardens, sat there, paid a
lot of money to get documents back to do with
the end which I'll come to in a minute, of
the Falklands War, and why strangely this island seemed to
have far more attention than Paul Stanley, which is if
you watch the news footage from the eighties time frame,
then of course most of the war was for as
Ben says, this is the South Sandwich Islands. I mean,
I've got to get a I've got to get a
map up. In a minute, one of you can talk
and I'll get your max because I think your viewers
need to see where this is. It will, and it
will show also how close it is to Antarctica. But
let you just say this.
Speaker 4: Clear about that, and it is. Literally it's one of
the most remotest and inaccessible places on Earth. It's a
place where hardly anyone has been I mean there's been
a few there's been a few bases that have been
put in there, mostly by Argentina since the fifties, but
really no one's ever lived there, no one that nobody
ever lives there before. There's no there's no vegetation, no one's.
Speaker 6: No sheep there, no.
Speaker 4: But they can. But what you can do is you
can put bases on the end. Indeed, as without Antarctica,
and I can tell you a whole old of stories
about Antarctica. This is essentially an island off the coast
of Antarctica. And again it makes you wonder why there
is this focus on this tiny little essentially a lump
of rock and ice sits sticking out the sea, which
is just used as a resting place for penguins. Yet
a huge amount of focus, ever long before the actual
nineteen eighty two more has been paid to this little,
tiny piece of land, which is you could walk across
it in like half an hour. It's only like about
a mile across, very small, and it's part of the
South Sandwich Island Change. Again, it's an uninhabited a little
crescent shaped row of rocks sticking out the sea, basically
ice or ice most of the year around. I think
it's frozen over the sea quite a lot of time.
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's the way Bergs original Nazi connection with this.
Speaker 4: But oh, don't get me started on that. But yeah,
but David's right, the Nazis did have. In fact, I'm
not going to tell a story about the guy I
met who said he knew all about this, but the
Nazis had a very interesting fixation on Antarctica. And indeed,
we're going to this Operation high Jump and the British
expedition that took place afterwards. I'm not going to go
to details about that now because we'd be here for
two hours. But but you mentioned you mentioned the Nexu's magazine, David,
and Marcus Allen is a good friend of the show,
and we know really well take.
Speaker 1: A great guy and a great, a great a great
moon Moon enthusias, so who knows his job.
Speaker 4: We've done the Apollo Detectives with him, and he's great, Yeah,
but next to cover this in details.
Speaker 1: A full cleansed map to that in David, just because
Ben's I just want to show you where's and Ben
can talk about it. Just just see how far he's
half in Britain but also half half from Argentina, but
also how far from the what do you call them, Ben, like,
poor Stanley, I'm the main Falkland islands.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not. It's a separate the Falkland independency. It
basically just the Falkland Islands that surrounding waters. But there's
there's South Georgia, and and then there's the there's the
islands South Georgia, and then if you go if you
go southeast from that, that's after about three hundred miles,
you'd come across a cluster of islands, which is basically
you're into Antarctica. Now it's in the southern Southern Ocean,
and you'll literally rically reached the point where or almost
in the Antarctic orders, and there's launch.
Speaker 1: Sorry I was gonna say, what a dodgy colonial saw
of plame that so way way past Port Stanley. Then
they're like, oh, we're having these too, you know, And
I'm a big I think we did great stuff with colonies,
and we did lots of good laws, ed edgew macation
around the world, all sorts of stuff. So I think
we did great stuff. But I mean this is a
big tenuous isn't it. Look at these tiny islands. I
mean the Germans named names sort of thought, and then
the British in the usual way. Look at us. Look
at our navy boushes were stemaling it. We'll have those
right down, and we're called them the Falken Islands, linked
to the Falken Diands, but they're not really They're miles away.
So I don't know if Neil you made that any bigger,
and I might do things wrong in the studio.
Speaker 4: You know, that's the biggest sight.
Speaker 6: Brobably edit and zoom in on that, right.
Speaker 4: I find it very interesting that the Nazis chose to
call they give the island this name because Thue Island,
as you said, was connected to Duell Society for ill
rial energy, and they cult the Nazier cult beliefs. But
they decided to call it fuel Southern, and they decided
to call these islands on the other side of the
world Southern Fuel.
Speaker 1: Yes, in the North Atlantic.
Speaker 4: Yes, there is a Fuel Island and there's a dual society.
This indicates that there was a lot of very very
they thought they must consider these islands very important to
call it Southern Thuel. The Nazis must have considered it
a very important island. And there's two islands in this
this thoo Liland and Cook Island. But they're basically and
there's Belling Rs and Belling Scores and island as well,
but basically it's called Southern Fuel this or trio of
islands at the end of the South Sandwich Archipelago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and ben I'll just thank you for that. I'll
just say this. Then Andrew or Nilkin come in, but
I'll just say this. And also this is what made
it ludicrous to me as a what a ten year
old in night yet ten right?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Nice eighty one the war the war started. I mean,
you know, I've got other images here of the Sun
newspaper which you might have seen, or Benzi where it's
just gotcha. We had this thing in the first when
we sank, I mean just a sick, a very sick
sort of headline because lots of Argentina people died on
this Belgrano battleship. I think it was that, but they
were like, gotcha. In other words, we got the battleship,
but it was trying to head away thatcher. I mean,
we can go into here. I mean I learned more
about Exocet missiles and torpedoes in the last few years
and I wanted to know. I really didn't care, but
so so. But what's interesting is we set this whole
who are who are war off? Essentially? You know, as
well as Port Stanley, which had fair enough, it had
some Britain's and I'm all for defending British people. I
don't care where they are in the world. If you've
got a British settlement, to be honest, if that's been
historically part of the British settlement, then yeah, I f
off I leave them alone and stuff.
Speaker 4: So I get that.
Speaker 1: But you get down to these islands, it gets a
bit weird because you're basically sailing all these soldiers down
to defend a bit of rock. But it's not it's
not about the bit of rock. It's it's about what
was going on that made it, especially if you take
the Freedom Information documents that I can show you in
a minute, that end up going They end up saying, well,
my God's right. So the war finished in Port Stanley
and all the headline news in America, sorry, in Britain,
the whole wind down happens. And then I noticed I
was like, hang on, look at the dates the wharf.
That the final bits of the agreement of the war.
And it was a bit like World War two. It's
never it wasn't a final war finish.
Speaker 4: It wasn't.
Speaker 1: So it's clever, just like in World War two? Do
you I mean you all know the war World War
two never finished. I mean there were no assure sort of.
And again I'm confused. Is it a ceasefire documents? There's
another term for it, but there's a way of finishing.
Speaker 4: Here's no formal surrendering. Not with Japan. That it's strandity
because it was just assumed that Hitler was captured or killed,
that was killed at the end, and he wasn't. But
that's that's another party.
Speaker 1: Are you saying that's the reason why they didn't World
War two? They didn't do a full end and full
official ending.
Speaker 4: Are you saying that I got to do with Germany
never surrendered? No, they never surrendered. They were, yeah, that
was killed, and that was supposedly the end. But Hitler
wasn't killed. He wasn't he escaped, so it was technically
World War two never ended.
Speaker 7: You point out that I claimed that wasn't it claimed
that Admiral Durnets signed the surrender for Germany.
Speaker 4: They thought, no, he he, I can't remember. I can't,
I can't remember the whole I know there was a
surrendered with Japan. They actually did. They signed the document
saying surrender and that was the end.
Speaker 1: Of the war.
Speaker 4: But I pointed, you know, I agree with David about
the jingoism and stuff, because I mean, I do think
that obviously Falkland is the British overseas territory, always has,
you know, there's no legitimate claim by Argentina, and even
now now have even today Havier Mille has admitted this essentially,
and I have there's a and so I mean, even
though you may you could say it was justified to
to recapture the islands, the jingoism and the kind of
like the war pigs and the battle drums really were
completely over the top. And when you consider that the
General Belgebrano Sinking accounted fourth. I think it was three
hundred sailors drowned.
Speaker 1: Rageous.
Speaker 4: Really, that counts for the third of the entire casualties
of that war was in that Winey engagement. And that's
and I should say that I have a personal reason
for feeding this way because I used to have I
used to have a girlfriend called Rosalin and her brother
was on board r F A Sigalahad. And this was
a ship that won the ships that the Argentina has.
A British ship that's hit it was It was a
Royal beat auxiliary ship hit by one of the extra
set missiles, blew up and killed lots of people. And
his brother had her brother so ross ross. His brother
had scars is his face and his hands were like
covered in scars from the burns he received. Burns.
Speaker 1: Torpedoes, took torpedoes, exo sets, torpedoes. If you're if you're
in if you're in a contained area, I learned all
this in the Falklands. But if you're in a contained
area in a ship, the problem is that the torpedoes explode,
and you think were like a bomb in Vietnam, they're
like ball. They go everywhere. They have nowhere to go,
they're surrounded by a ship's hull. And so if you're
part of that, even if your few falls up, my god,
you're in for a world. Have heard so so and
the Ben's Ben's mentioned the exo sets, Well, there's a
whole other story to that, which I've covered in some talks.
That's fascinating because missus Thatcher, this is all to do
with the fact that the exo sets, which your French maid,
had a special switch off code designed for if they
were ever stolen. So if someone came, someone came across
and sorry someone that let's say an except fired by
that were cried by the French, and then they couldn't
sorry it didn't fire. It was what they call a
dumb bomb, or someone raised a French unitions depotgo. They
had probably some of the first probably GPS based switched off,
so they could basically, if you knit a French exerceet missile,
they could they could actually fire out some frequency, some
some code and switch off that bomb.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Thatcher was really pissed off because what the French, the
sneaky bastards is again they I mean, they sell us
French fries, but they're still so greedious that they then
want to sell bombs everywhere as well, So they sold
under the counter. They sold exercise to Argentina. Thatcher was furious.
She goes, you've sold these to them. They've taken down,
Ben dead right, they've turned down I think it was
Galahads was that by be?
Speaker 4: It was three ships here, I mean Argie teams that
seen three pretty ships.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, chev all right, you know more than me.
Aby said, okay, but I learned you David, No, no, no,
I didn't know. But but the bit that I did
do and the bit that I read President Metron's biography.
Can you imagine how bored I gotta be for that
to read present metros greed right, So but what I
found out in there is that that Scher had, I mean,
she'd actually said, I, you know, you better give us
the switch off codes for these exer sets that are
taking out British ships or and this is the funny
bit I find hilarious, and I mentioned this at the
talk at UFO Academy that Ben was that that so
of course that she didn't she didn't then threaten to
nuke France because that's their exercise that she wants the
codes from the French military hierarchy to stop these missiles
that have been sold to Argentina then damaging or killing
ships and personnel. She basically said, and if you don't
get I mean it's hilarious. There's that. If you don't
give me so I laugh now, but it is disgusting
because there were deaths around this. If you don't give
these switch off goes, I'm gonna New and this is true,
I'm going to New Guargentina. So she's she was actually
prepared to New Guargentina to actually, yeah, in her in
her head, to stop this whole process going on based
on the Exo set missiles and so so there's all
these but my point here is exo sets. You know
this little island. Did the Argentineans know this basalve was
set up? To me, there's the cos and I'll shut
up after this. There's a cos going on, and to
me whether there's too much going on. There's too much
going on for it to be about a few sheep
in a rock and we want to oil rise and
our fishing rice around here. And because they were remember,
like Ben said, there were no people on this South
Sandwich islands. They were all well far I think a
thousand kilometers north. So you got to ask yourself what
was going on. And here's my take. Here's my take
on this that uh, these eties had asked permission because
it was close that etes view, this is a logical
way of doing this. So these eaties that linked to
alcyules that he knew all about, they basically have been
working on trying to stop this. Far more damaging than
an exer set this this nano solution that's around that
we then see happening. Props in the ben can talk
on the the Gulf oil sel with BP, but there's
many I mean, and do you know at the time
I didn't even by that. Then then if someone sent
me only a couple of months ago, that's the But
in in past off Louisiana on the coast, people had
their whole holes and the engines eaten into by this
black goo stuff, right, and the whole response with Sutherns
called correctsis when this thing, you know, the idea is
a leak of this stuff that was in the Falklands
that hammed around this BP oil spill because they were
drilling perhaps for that accidentally they got this black goo
or there after the black goo. Again, if you go
back at my torks, it makes a bit more sense.
But here's my tay that in nineteen seventy six the
agreement with ETS were that then as a cover for
the ETS then having and I don't forget, they had
a base that was under sea, so they had labs
that have been there since World War One or before
to try and de engineer why because the main point
about this sentient nano or black goo thing is it
needs to be kept cold to remain dormant and not
get activated. Which Ben will go off and tell you
about what happened on a submarine, you know the submarine
story bend that happens to Yeah, all right, yeah, so
let's leave it. Let's see yeah, well let's leave it
for a minute. But so my taking yeah yeah yeah,
but I meand be good if you could go through that.
But so essentially what happens is, I uh, the rumors
are that these blue ets linked to the key we
ant had to ask had had basically been said, because
we're doing this stuff, but can you help us sort
of make it look legitimate? We've asked, So they asked
permission which if you go to contact liature ets always
they don't tend to do a lot of dodgy. They're
all that they will the aged with governments and power structures.
If if it suits, then uh narrative it suits, there
their way forward. And and I think they've asked the
artistic governments, and hence they sent out a set up
a weather stage okay, a weather station to cover up
the fact that these ets were probably flying in in
sources probably invisible to the human eye, to carry on
de engineering and trying to say and they're trying to
save our lives on this on this earth, because this
stuff is dodgy f dot if it gets going. So
and I think the problem is that the British should
rule the waves, you know, you know, always thought that
they were top dog and got information. And another interesting
way is how Americas stayed out of this. It's fascinating.
I've done a whole article on how the Americans stayed
out of this thing and let the British do for
the first time, let the British do their own thing.
So I think that the these eats said, we've got
our base, we're trying to help you, and the engineered
this very dodgy substance. So they put up this weather
thing that you've just seen of the British were we're
having some of that. We want it because what you
find out later, which I don't know if we're even
going to get into in this interview, what you find
out late is what happened at Marconi where they they
the British get this stuff, take it back, and as
they tried to interface with it using radio waves and
and and quotes I've got from a person that worked there,
all sorts of stuff. Then it gets very crazy and
the British weren't prepared for it. But you've got this
whole thing to do with Britain Argentina. So in the
in the in the in the tabloid newspapers in the
eighties we saw as a playoff, Oh my god, you know,
is to do with fishing rights or is to do
with you know, how dare they come and just take
a bit of rockland a ludicrous right wars a bit
thought over for stupid things for it, but not this
stupid You don't fight a whole war over a lump
of rock around There's something else going on, And I
think that was it. And then it expands out when
the British, as Ben said, they sending special forces commandos whoever,
they raid this space and they get hold of this
sentient nanisubstance. Because what happens is the etes leave and
they go somewhere else, which I'll tell you about. That's
whole another thing. But then it goes back to Marconi
England and all hell breaks loose, and then we enter
another phase of this whole saga. I'll leave it there,
I mean, anyone someone else.
Speaker 7: So let's to kind of like clarify where did the
black goo? Where's the current thinking? Where did the black
goo come from? Is it only in this one spot
in the Falklands, Why the Falklands? And who discovered it?
Speaker 1: Okay, really really good question, and I think that's the
question that I wish more people would ask that. And
the answer is, and like much in the UFO fields,
and of course many of us in this area get
we sort of get panned for going well, you know,
I mean, I've got my own contact stuff going on.
But when I say, well, I don't know who's in
these ships, I've got forties all this stuff, and people
get annoyed and it's the same with this area. It's
just like well, to an extent, well, what we got's going.
We've got Alec nuil To who genetically and again bear
with me, was part of this group, right and be
put down on a planet probably to deal with this
sort of area, but also much more after that, which
I can go into, to do with a guy called
Bruce Kathy who's a frequency expert, to do with nuclear
bombs and our nukes reel all this other stuff. So
Alec had this role to do, but most of it
was to do with this group that will related to
him and regards southern though, and what they says, So
what is ET said they said is and again this
planet is human history is probably one hundred thousand years old,
maybe two hundred thousand, right, that's by the sort of
US sentient beings walking around making campfires and making civilizations. Right,
but go back we all know, I mean they've found
gold watches buried, and intricate circuit boards and weird things
found in coal fields, and so we know that many
things have gone in before this. Their rationale was that
what happens is an eating malevolent and again I don't
know et group came to try and take over the Earth,
you know, and again look at ten thousand a d
with the ice ages. Lots of shit went down there.
There were lots of bowels for stuff we were going on.
If you look into this whole history, so what it
seems that an eaty group came to try and dominate
the Earth and take it over, didn't quite manage it
and got kicked off. I mean, and again look into
all the Vedic records and stuff. There's all these bowels
going on with ships and stuff. They didn't quite manager
They got told to piss off. But craft of these
crafty et buggers, they what do they do? They're like, right,
you've been us this time and this is classic Star
Wars stuff.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: What they did is they went embedded a very high
tech this substance in the in the Earth that was
then a radio control that once they were off the
planet shunt their enemy group then couldn't take over the
planet if they wanted to. They could flick a switch
and they could activate this stuff. This is not like
a nuclear bomb. This is something that gradually then interesting.
Think of more gelons and think of kem trails. Right,
they could flick a switch and it gradually invades the
human species. Where I tell you, kem trails in my spirits,
I've read all the stuff from that maybe doing that.
So so the danger was that if this let's say,
even if this alien group who'd planted this stuff deep
in the ocean floor to keep it cool, because then
it's not activated. Right, important point let's say that this
group then disappeared. The point is this stuff's still a danger.
What if climate change? Climate change is true and then
this begin this stuff and these these friends of Alex
said no, this stuff isn't stable. We need to try
and we need try and neutralize it. And that was
their goal. They were doing this for us and for
future species on this earth. So if we don't know
where it came from, but it's it does seem that
a rogue eating group came tried to take as a
planet and then they bury this stuff as a sort
of dead man's trigger, you know what I mean, a
dead man's trigger to basically, Yeah, so that's the idea.
And again, apart from that, I don't know. My alik
Or might say much more if you asked him. I
don't know. That's my take on it.
Speaker 7: And it gets e gets even worse because allegedly within
the COVID vaccines, we've got this black material that conglomerates
called graphene, and there's all sorts of theories about whether
five G or six G will start controlling these graphine
molecules in people.
Speaker 1: I think frequence is are crucial. I don't know about graphene,
but I'm sure frequence is a crucial.
Speaker 7: Down back to the Falklands, winding it back to nineteen
eighty one, who are we saying that with this particular
base that you showed with the red building, you're saying
that the Argentine and Argentinians found this material? Or have
they or have people have humans known this for ages
and you know, and they kept it quiet? Or have
they only just discovered it and then set a base
there and then and if you're if I getting this right,
the British then got wind of this and then we
decided to kind of like go in and kind of
take it over and bring it back.
Speaker 1: Is that kind of that is the I know, I mean,
and really good points and I wish I wish years
ago someone of that asked me those points about this,
because that the more you get doack. The point is,
you know, instead of people going off and going on
about the blackgoop and what they think is, I'd rather
people ask questions like that and stuff and the course
it's not you know, it's not me answering. It's Alec
Nult who met these He went on the planet and
met these groups, right, has written a huge parts on
this and he goes into some of this. So I
literally think that the essentially the that this the British
can think, You've got to think how do that? You know?
And it comes down to things like the Five Eyes network,
you know, and stuff like the Five Eyes networks? How
does this operate? You know, the British have got to
use it. We're used to having their nose in everywhere
with colonialism, right and all this sort of stuff. But
you know, in a way because of you know, and
I don't know the British for colonialism and don't not
in some of their wars, but you know, Argentina, in
a way what the ets sided with them, and so
I think that in a way they they were like,
look they so they told more truth to them about
what they were doing, and they go look, look, you know,
because if you if if a group of vts approached
the whoever was in government at the time in the
say the nineteen seventy six the ben mentioned operating keyole,
if they'd mentioned that and says, well, look, look we're
here we de engineering. It's really dangerous to your population,
your Earth population. We've got to try and de engineer
this stuff because otherwise it could in the way that
narotech does, you know, go and do some resources narw tech.
If he's not controlled, if he's given the wrong frequency,
stimulus rolls out and amplifies itself and affects it is
I mean, this is x files territory. So but what
I think happened is that they dealt with the arm
Chee government, who a bit more gentle than the British
in a way. So they're like, yeah, you come along,
and you said to your base, will use it as
a diversion.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And maybe then perhaps if you again think when you
shut this southerns down, maybe what perhaps this this amazing
substance that you've shut down, because all we know this
all sci fi, right, sci fi is actually political truth
and uh. And so if if you find that something
is useful from this substance, anything that's dangerous is a
threat also probably has benefits as we finally, the black
good you'll we find goes into hospitals and create and
manage you to do this. And I and if we
talk again, you'll find out how I found documents on
the hidden past of the Marconi Veterans group of their
magazine where they go on about how they basically they
set up a whole what they call a clean sphere
to deal with astonishing small type of substance that had
an intelligence stability. Right, so all this is hidden stuff.
So I think Argentina did a deal and said, yeah,
fair enough. The problem is the British, in our own arrogance,
in our own old colonial ways, were like f off right,
f off Argentina and f off whoever these that I
think they knew about these et groups. We're coming down
and we're going to take this stuff. And they and
they did, and so there was a battle off between
the two. I think the Argentinas were happy to let it,
let it, let it, to let it run, leave these ets,
to de engineer this substance and to use their base
as a sort of decoy for this. But the British,
because it was also prossly because it wasn't quote owned
British territory, but also because they the British had rumors
about what was going on. They then went in and
they steamed in, and what we saw in the Falklands
was ninety nine percent to do with this substance and
one percent to do with the other ship that we
saw to do with ethanoles.
Speaker 4: But the way I say the scenario as I see
it is that obviously sometime in the early twentieth century
people discovered there was a there was a sentient oil
deposit on Southern Field, probably the Nazis because because they
did in that in fact have there were several expeditions
into the German Antarctic Expedition and things like that. Now,
what happened was that that Argentina invaded the Folkland Island
dependencies because they knew that strategically, once they had control
of that territory, then basically the South Sandwich Islands were theirs.
They already put up an illegal base in nineteen seventy
six on the island. They already had an illegal They
basically had a basically squatting on the island from nineteen
seventy six onwards because of that deposit that was there,
because there was a cave, there was a there was
like it wasn't it wasn't. I don't think it was
an artificial mine. I think it was some kind of cave,
if I remember rightly. So, because I did read alec
Alex's book about this, and there was where you can
have you can actually access the deposit of black goop
and and go back at the sentient oil is actually
all over the planet, in various places all over the.
Speaker 1: That's that's sorry that yeah, that's your point that that's
that's that Andy mentioned that I didn't say that it
isn't just here, that it collects in these sort of
colder seawaters. So, and there are deposits because of course,
think about it. If you're planted, let's let's see, it's
some sort of time bomb. Yeah, if you're an alien
race that got kicked off because you tried to take
over the Earth and then you got booted off by
esoteric forces from Vedic in India or whoever, we don't know,
then the point is you're not going to just do
it one place, You're going to do it all over,
which then comes into something to do with also the
Antette We found antennas and the great world of China
that are actually there, and they dug out that that
we think we're to do with triggering this this stuff.
So so yeah, Ben's right, they were. It was planted
all over a planet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was. It may have been planting
specific areas for strategic purposes, like you said, but I
mean what a was the the UK, our own country,
decided that because Argentina had done this, they decided to
go and recapture the islands, not because they really particularly
cared about this overseas territory, and we would know they're
just selling all these things off anyway. They've just got
rid of you know, they've the territory in the Maldives.
They don't care about that. They don't care about the
rights to folkland island people who are primarily British descent.
They did it because they wanted to stop Argentina accessing
this deposit on southern fuel. And it's and I mean
I say this as I said, it's a personal issue
here because my ex partner, her brother was injured for
life and scarred for life, a bit like Simon Western.
You know, the guy who was also on that ship.
He was scarred for life by this war by Argentina,
by an Argentinian missile. Argentine missile. So I have a
personal I have a personal even it was a long
time ago, I have a personal. This is a personal
issue for me too. And then of course the next stage,
of course, once once they had control of that deposit,
they started extracting the David will tell the story. They
started extracting the material and returning it to the laboratory
studies in the UK. But I'll let it take you
to tell that story.
Speaker 1: I mean, Neil Andrew, do you want to come in
just because we're now we're now in the early so
this is the early lift off phase. I mean the
lift off so we've dealt with the foreklons. But then
then then, I mean there's several tangents from there. But
if you want to keep it simple, essentially what happens
is the British uh yuke or whatever Metapolphy and nuke
that base as you've seen on the Falklands. And again
remember I've got Foyer documents from Q gardens that and
if I show you these, you'll see where bizarrely you know,
when there's a whole war going on there, suddenly they're going, well,
we haven't quite got recent agreement with this, and there's that.
I couldn't find agreements on anything to do with sudden though.
But if you go to Paul Stanley and the main Falklands,
then there's all sorts of wind down deals see with
the war logistics and this and that, but nothing on
this and it stank like high heaven and and anyway.
So that's that's that's that's it. But from there, essentially
what happens is the special Forces come in take a
sample of this stuff, and they take it back and
they're like, who can we give it to in Britain?
You know, and and again interesting America, who that these
fuckers normally take over everything. No, this time what happens
is it goes back and they go to the one
company in that era that's still fairly big. You know,
there's a lot of stuff got a good history, which
is Marconi in Britain that had by then wanted to
do it about five different scientific and factory production bases
and so so so then they take this back and
they go here deal with it. And they knew a
little bit about it, and I can shed a lot
of lights when most people can't shed light on what
hand of Marconi because it all links back to South
African intelligence again complex South African intelligence agents and also
to do with some workers there that have that chatted
to Alec yu Olden basically made and discussed what happened.
And it's astonishing if you think you bring an alien
substance back to a normal electronics company, no matter how
it balanced. They are imagine this shit, it's alien way
out and they try and then tame it and it
doesn't quite work and there's a fallout. My theory is
the fallout is the deaths that hamm in Marconi and
how they dealt with it is another then layer. How
they dealt with it is another layer. So you know,
if you want to cover that next time, I don't know.
We've done a good background, but it's your collineal on
this too.
Speaker 4: I think we can helporate.
Speaker 5: Do you want to take a little break, just for
five minutes to use the lou grab a cup of
tea or coffee. Hi, welcome back to the Paranormal peep Show.
This is David Griffin. We're into talking to David Griffin
about the Marconi and the Black Girl and the Falkland Islons.
Just to recap what is the Falkland Islands and why
is it important? Well, the Falkland Islands was still owned
by the British. Actually it's a group of islands down
in the South Atlantic and the Malvinas as they were
called by the Argentinians. They were trying to take them
in nineteen eighty two, I think it's January or February
nineteen eighty two, and Margaret Thatcher, the then Prime Minister,
sent a task force of so many ships down there
to try and recatch them, which they did do over
a six week period. I think it ended in March
of nineteen eighty two. I have a personal connection. I
have a personal connection to it because at that time
I was working for a company that dealt with the
entertainment and the education of the military forces, that was
the Navy, Army and Air Force. And I worked for
a company called SSVC, the Services Sound and Vision Corporation,
and they had a vision and a newly acquired division
called b FBS which is British Forces Broadcasting Service and
so as part of my job at the time, and
I was seventeen, so I think I'm the oldest one here.
Speaker 4: I put my own up.
Speaker 5: I'm an Altby. I was seventeen at the time. As
my first job basically, and I was helping send videos
and tapes and things down to the Falkland Islands through
the British Forces Post office network. They've got their own
post office network and they call it a BFBO, so
it's British Forces post Office. And because the Falkland Isrons
were newly acquired now, because they bild in a runway
in a military base on there, they had to assign
it something like a postal code and they called it
a BFPO number, where they gave the Falkland Islands a
BFPO number. And this is the weird thing, a BFO
number of six six six, which is kind of spooky
and weird.
Speaker 6: Isn't that strange?
Speaker 5: So you can mention David in future presentations. And another
connection I've got with that is that my own father
who's now passed on, he died back in twenty twenty two.
Nothing connected with his employment, I don't think. I think
it's more to actually do with the Jimmy Jabbies actually
that might have unfortunately made my father's demise end. But
he worked as a technical illustrator for Marconi. First of all,
he worked for Marconi Underwater Systems, and then later on
he was transferred to Marconi Defense Systems. And that was
at Croxley Green, And I remember going there for a
walk around. They had an open day for all the
relatives and friends of the employees, and you could go
around and walk around their.
Speaker 6: Whole place and they showed you like you was deal.
Speaker 1: What what year was it?
Speaker 5: This would have been about nineteen eighty seven, eighty eight,
something like that that I was.
Speaker 6: I went round there with him.
Speaker 5: He previously worked for Martin Baker Aircraft Company who made ejections,
seats and things like that.
Speaker 6: They were based on dead bucks, but because of his.
Speaker 5: Skills were transferable to other defense companies, and it was
just prior to things coming onto the CAD system computer
aighted design. He was still don a technical drawing for
all these sorts of things with a pencil and a
pen and the drawer.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean you had to be good.
You had to be good to use a pencil in
that year before computers. My god.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a technically trained artist and I do
artwork myself and things like that, but I would I
wouldn't aim to be as good as he was in
that sort of sense. So that's that's my personal connection.
So now this is where it hots up a little bit,
isn't it, David, Because we got this connection where the
mysterious sentiment black goo that was discovered in the Falkland Islands,
you know, which.
Speaker 6: Was trying to be being.
Speaker 5: Switched off, if you like, by these blue alien creatures
that have now departed the planet. The British have got involved.
The cover story is the Falklands War with Argentina, but
they're actually there for another reason, which is to try
and take some of this black go that's sort of
secreted somewhere deep under the earth in the South Atlantic
near the Falkland Islands, and the British are now taking
this stuff back to Britain. So I'll hang it over
to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you make a good point there about, you know,
about the fact that of course there's almost a cover story,
so you got the War of the Falklands, but also
you get if you go down in like a micro
sort of level, or a holographic micro level of this,
you then get the Southern Fall Island that also plays
out in this Michigan we haven't got time to cover
an now, but goes into the Freedom of Information Act
documents that I found that basically make this whole island
has become this mad mystery, even though it's only one
kilometer wide compared to the rest of the Falklands War.
So all this sort of stuff went on, and it's
interesting with your background, Neil, of your and your relatives,
I mean, some of that's fascinating because it's very hard
to find relatives of people that were linked to these
Marconi deaths that we can go on to discuss perhaps
next time. It's hard to find people that will talk
about this, and Joe why because essentially what happened then
from this Falkland's War is this strange alien sent in
nano or black goose substance went back to England to Marconi,
who the highest tech radio. I mean you you just
mentioned this with your relative. They they covered underwater, the
torpedo intelligence, They were doing satellite and computing. And that's
a key one because if we go on to do
a second session of this, you'll find out about a
guy called Victim Or who is the guy. We have
all the clothes from from inside Marconi where no one
else has this we myself and out you'll have this
where he talks about what happens when they brought this
stuff back. So I mean you've got to imagine, you know,
imagine I'm trying to think of a sort of metaphor
or something similar to do with like, well, when you
know what happened when the conquistadores went over to you know,
the sort of the New World and stuff. And I
mean this is a similar thing that you get an
alien substance that e T's themselves are on the foot
are trying to d engineer and again d not engine
not not make their own d engineer. I quiet it
down because they knew it's a threat to the human
species itself, and and and this stuff then gets taken
back and given to what they in a classic British
sort of arrogant way, they're like, here, we're great, here's Marconi.
That course has been around since you know, the guy
Marconi itself actually used I mean he did a lot
of experience from whales and cornwall and in the early
days to do with transmissions of telegrams. But since then
we have about by the time the Falklands take place
in eighteen ninety eighties, we have about what four or
five different offices and factories and you know, high tech
labs dealing with certain things to do with Marconi, which
is mostly defense based radio based. But what's what's interesting
is just what happens when I mean, and it doesn't
take long. And this is the fantastic fact, the amazing
point that's you could say, is absolutely intriguing in one way,
but also it's very difficult if you're a relative of
one of these twenty three that I've covered, that these
twenty three people then end up with these bizarre deaths.
And so suddenly happened when this substance went back to Marconi.
They tried to deal with it, They found out how
to engage with it by radio waves, They found a
way to communicate and activate it, so much so that
on the first few weeks of it going back to
Marconi in one particular base or units like you go
into that Essentially what happened was as they try to
then get this stuff activated, to communicate with it or
to do or find out what he could do, it
started affecting British satellite arrays, you know, and this is
sort of documented that it affected our satellites. I mean
really really quite dodgy stuff. I mean we today we
rely on GPS and all sorts of things for satellites. Well,
it did this, and I think it's scared so. But
the point is something hand of Marconi that ended up
with employees getting so scared they wanted to leave. And
I've never got to the bottom of this. I've got
a three about what hamd and how they dealt with them,
in other words, how the deaths would dealt with them,
why they did that. But what I don't know, what
another of us know, is what exactly happened to make
what hand of Marconi to make this alien substance becomes
such a psychological and mostly it was. That's a key point.
This wasn't a physical threat in a way. Something happened
to the minds of these men that involved in Marconi
that as they dealt with this substance, something something occurred
that made them then want to leave. And I mean,
if you're going to if you if you're a big
boor on this like me, if you if you go
into some of their I mean I've even looked up
things like the death in quest of some of these
people and their relatives going one day they were in all.
In fact, here we go, David I, right, let's get
let's bring this back to the UK. Right as a
good point David I years ago found. So what reminded
me of this? Recently? David I met someone who wrote
to her and said, I am a wife or husband
of a Marconi employee. One day, I recognize them. The
next day, and this is about the early eighties period,
the next day, after dealing with whatever it was, I
don't think they've mentioned anything to with Blackpool or whatever,
but that their partner, male or female, said the next
day I didn't recognize them. And this is a familiar
theme with his Marconi workers that when they got involved
or given a role in this dealing with this black
Goo sent in nanos, something changed in their personality. What
seems to have happened then is then is then the
British state, the British m I five and I six
intelligence ages came in to try and shut down this
stuff and go right, don't you dare spread this stuff
anywhere you know or or it might even be And
this is God. I mean, I don't want to go
along with with Project Camerlot and Kerry, but she, I mean,
her claim is that this goo was infected, was injected
into these workers and that they went a little bit strange.
I don't buy that. But the point is something happens
and what happened, and you figure, you know you've got
You've got the most bizarre series of deaths that you
could ever find. Twenty three people are doing all sorts
of stuff and one of those, I mean, Neil, can
you do you want to play this? Just to give
us a bit of context, I've posted something and this
is this is David SAMs, who's one guy, and this
is one of the milder ones. So imagine all these
people then wanted to leave and they and they were
told they couldn't leave, and weird things and so this
footage which is really rare that I found found from
a friend of David Sands that I spoke to a
few years ago. So see what he did to his
Do you think if you are a car crash to
kill you up? Do you want to burn to death? Signs?
Speaker 8: A married man aged thirty seven and recently returned from holiday,
had stacked ten gallons of petrol in the boot of
his Maestro car, sure he had serviced more than eighty
miles prior in to a disused roadside cafe near Basingstoke.
Colleagues and family say he had been depressed and police
are working on the theory that he deliberately crashed the car.
Sans was said to be a brilliant scientist and had
just finished a three year contract working on top secret
radar systems. It's the latest incident involving scientists working.
Speaker 6: For the Marconi Group.
Speaker 8: Last year, Vaimal Dashybai from Kenton and Ashad Sharif from
East London were found dead near Bristol. Families say they
don't believe it was suicide. Then in January, Avtar sing
Gida disappeared near Loughbury University, where he was working on
a similar defense project. The basic elements of what we
do do add our to very much like the plot
of a television show that surely titled for public to
know what is going on and what has happened to
these people? An official inquiry will now be launched by
the Marconiy Group unto the latest death.
Speaker 1: I think that's right, Yeah, but but what I mean fascinating,
and I've gone another I've got another longer clip of
also other instances, and it goes through the partner of
one of these people that essentially, essentially i mean middle
class sky top computing guy. But he went he began
to for a few weeks. His wife said, he began
going to a shed and he drilled the people out
to this to know who was coming. Well, whilst I'd
tell it someone was after them. Was it a demon,
was it some et group, or was it m I
five or Marconi themselves? And and but by the time
you've read as many inquests, I mean really depressing in quest.
I've read so many inquest things to do with Marconi
people who have died, and that's where they would do
a inquest because the one book that's been written on this,
apart from mind that hopefully in Mars right, the one
what's been written is called open verdict. And the why
is it called open verdict because that's what happened when
whenever they tried to review these deaths, these bizarre deaths,
I mean, chugging yourself off a bridge. Another one an
Asian guy that was obviously a top beauty programmer working
on this. He wound down his window, tied a rope
around his neck in a news prestige sorry, tried, tied
the other end to a tree, pressed exert on his car,
and pulled his own head off. This is not made up.
This is just this is just what happens. This is
all documented. But it gets when you read this, it gets,
It gets depressing, and it's very difficult for the founilis
of these people because it all came back with corona
open verdict. In other words, we have no f in
clue what went on. So we come to a fascinating
area about my, my, big my. One of my big
things about the whole alien et sort of thing is
that is its novelty, but also it brings around high strangeness.
Is that classic Charles Ford sort of you know, high
strangest theme? Well, my god, what hamda Marconi? Highly strange?
You don't you don't tie right around your head, pressed
it clear on your four grenado in ninety five and
pull your head off, you know, I mean, I mean
you don't want to know. You don't want to die
like that. You don't want to also die.
Speaker 7: By it's almost demonic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and there is a sorry to that the paramedic.
Speaker 4: Team now to attend that one.
Speaker 1: That was absolutely Yeah, especially you Ben as a hospital
for so you know about this, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean first since horrible things in my time,
That's that's one thing we've never had. I mean, why
is such a bizarre to group some suicide? It's exactly
exactly to me, it sounds like, I mean, it's almost
like I don't believe it was a sud. I think
it's too these it's too coincidental. But the very fat
they choose such I mean the guy who literally packed
his car full of petrol and drove it a that's roadside.
Speaker 7: I mean, if we despect, if we were to speculate
as to okay, let's say it's not suicide. Let's so,
let's say it's some kind of black ops dark mission
to get rid of these people. Why are they getting
rid of these people? What would be the reason?
Speaker 1: Well, a lot, I've got my and Ben. If Ben
didn't fall asleep in the UFO academy, he'll have seen Well.
My thing is they were both they were both demonstrating
a lesson to the other employees, which you find I
mean you find in other rowaers, I mean, I mean
nine to eleven maybe in other things that let's I mean,
I mean, let's take Maduro in the moment. I mean
there's a message like we can come and ef in
take you anyone from any government anywhere. So if you
take our drugs profits, and I guarantee you that's what's
going on. Forget all this oil. The Venezuela was a
cocaine shipping outlet. It wasn't a make But the point
is the Americans are going, you just they did this
with I mean, you know, Neil says not but you
might be younger than me. But General Noriega, right was
in Panama. He started taking money off the bushes. You
don't do that to George Bush senior junior, you don't.
So they then went and got him right and the
same with this, and I think it's the same with
the Marconi. They're basically going, well, if you're gonna sort
of even if it wasn't these people's faults, let's say
this alien gou Was went in to their heads or
and and and or it gave them a view on
the world just like him. After Roswell, when a lot
of Catholic people. I mean, comm Ben or who's the
guy that threw himself thrown out of a window?
Speaker 4: Oh that was that was fake? It Forestal Jack for Forestal,
Yeah wasn't Jack.
Speaker 1: I get confused between you. But but with I mean
with with something like that there, you know, it's just like, yeah,
he was Catholic and he found out about this stuff
like oh my god, you know aliens and stuff. I've
been told and I think that's what happens. But whether
you got thrown or jumped, it doesn't matter. But it's
the same with this stuff. These these normal, very normal
and there were normal normal people, these siteds found out
that there is an et ai an aspect to all
this stuff to do with Mark Comoni, and they couldn't
take it. But what then happened? What then happened on
top of their bizarre confused paranoia to do with this
ety blackgo elements, then incomes M I five, M I six, whoever,
and they use and this is my where we go
after this. I think they use a certain technology to
then ensure that they do very bizarre deaths on purpose.
They could have just come I mean, and it's just
mentioned they could have just come and probably shot them
in the head. They made them, do we think why
either some are cult thing or as a warning to
other employees in the Marcone intelligence that don't you dare
come out and try and make an issue of this thing.
And I don't know, I ordered some domemic elf. Yeah, yeah,
maybe both. I don't know.
Speaker 7: I wonder, I wonder if they're literally about to blow
the whistle on it, like literally basically saying what's going on.
This is absolutely horrendous, this is freaky for the human race.
We're going to go to the press for it. And
then basically got taken out before they could do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah they did. But a fascinating point, Andy, And actually
what some of their partner's relatives ends up saying is that,
you know, all of a sudden one day they were normal.
The next day like, you know, I just want to leave,
you know, and I want to leave this company. And
some of them even applied to other jobs on the
day they were going to get their interview that's when
happened to them. So there's some straight stuff going on
with the you know, with with this intersection between what
they're experiencing their job and then what happens with Maybe
they're going to blab or maybe they're going to go
a bit mad. I don't know, but it's no. I've
never found anything similar in any developed country that had
the death rate of an intelligi related company like my kind.
I've never found like Marconi. I've never found it anywhere else.
I challenged anyone to find it.
Speaker 5: It's interesting because when my dad did work for them
in the nineteen eighties, I only found out about all
these mysterious deaths, like on news broadcasts that we've just seen.
My dad never mentioned anything about it at all to
me in person.
Speaker 1: Be with MARCDI yeah, Marconi employees tend to for some reason,
Marconi employees tend to be very they tend to keep quiet.
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: So I'd be interested to hear that. You know, whether
now are a fuse?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: What? What's anything else that you heard from your relative,
because it's interesting with marc Oli they seem different. There's
no you don't get a whistleblurw from Marconi. They're they're
very faithful sort of people, but then they kill them anyway.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess like a.
Speaker 5: Lot of these military defense companies they have to sign
the minute sorry, the Official Secrets Act, and you know,
I suppose that could be part of it. But I
think that once you get one person start talking, the
pressure would be stepped up on them about you know,
keep quiet or where threatening your family or whatever. That
the you know, these intelligence sells is if they got involved,
would be probably literally have to clear up the mess.
And that probably be one of the ways they'd likely
to deal with it with threatening your families.
Speaker 6: If you don't, if you don't sort of play ball
with this sort of.
Speaker 7: Thing, yeah, go as the personality changes things. I hate
to say it, let's bring the gp jabs back in
because of course we're talking about the nineteen eighties, but
none of this has really gone away as such. It's
bubbling away in the background. So even if we go
onto the most mainstream news and I found this in
Reuter's USA today, but this is the BBC website, BBC
owned website says Japan finds black particles in moderna vaccine.
And I can tell you I'm actually a member of
a few groups on Facebook called died Suddenly to do
with kind of COVID vaccine and all of these horrendous Yeah,
And there's quite a few groups out there, and there's
quite a few people talking about what's going on to
their relatives and their loved ones. Having taken the jibjeb
safe and effective was a lie. They lie to people.
And one of the big things, David is personality changes.
Personality changes of relatives who have taken one, two, three
doses of this stuff. This stuff that just so happens
to have allegedly black part of in the jip jabs
that may well be graphice oxide or is it mixed
with something else of a gooey nature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I don't want to go off
in different tangents here, but I think you're dead right
A because I've experienced that with my parents where I've
never seen and this was in a week or two
of them having the job. I went down and I've
never known. I mean, they're both quite old and what
my certainly my mother's a bit seen are but after
the jabs, I mean they both, I mean they both
had a temper towns amound me for no reason. I
was like, my god, where's it. I'm totally different, right?
And I wrote to Jeff Jeff friends is a big
one on this whole vaccine personality change. And I wrote
and told him about this, and he'd had lots of
things that are around that time. So that's a fascinating area.
But and you're you're right, there's something and again I
believe you see right, we can go off into other areas.
I don't want it. But there's there's other stuff. There's
other stuff going on with regards the MR and A
and stuff that she Anyway, it's interesting that we have
this stuff to do with these bits of fragments of
DNA that no one will admit to, like fives and
all the other stuff they've made. But it seems almost like,
I mean, something they're saying at the moment that there's
something to do with the DNA has like the quivment
of dark matter, and it's almost like the Bill Gay slot.
We're aware of this, and so they chuk these DNA
aspects into it and we don't even know what these are.
I mean, why would you have put DNA fragments into
a job with people.
Speaker 7: They are farlid about it. They said that, oh, no,
it won't affect your DNA. Then it turns out and
it does. It does affect your DNA.
Speaker 4: Is it possible, Is it possible? There's like a connection.
I mean, David's mentioned the Keem trials and the more
Gallon's thing. Is this all a part of it? Is
this nanotechnology, whether it's et, whether it's created by the
government or both actually in modern v words gibili jabs
and indeed in this sense in oil.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So so and here's and I'm a big
one for personal experience on this area. For for what
you know, what happens to what happens to us and
how how if if something directly happens to us, do
we believe it more than it has on? Unusual of
course with you to an extent, but we serve our
own realities. Here's a very interesting thing that So from
dealing with my own area of uh, my partner's area
of contact. We we'd had things, we've had gadgets hacked
and a lot of lots of hands. But get this.
Get this, And I've not discussed this online before or
within this whole area of contact, all them Barcarie stuff.
Get this. So remember we're dealing with Alaneuld and Duncan
Rose from Nexus magazine and these are stable, upright people. Really,
I mean Alex, Alex really boring normal. You won't mind
saying this. If he watches this, he won't let me saying.
He's a normal guy. He loves he sales model model
boats around and he likes valley cars. But now it's
again a bit too old for all this. But you know,
this guy has undergone some of the most amazing alien
encounters that's going But and the same with Duncan Rose
has run next to this magazine you know gone, you know,
gone on for two decades. We in this I I'm
trying to think I phrase this where I get myself
into trouble six months before lockdown or anything to do
with jobs or anything else. Then my partner, who's had
these experiences with me to do with these light up
coming in which have got evidence of and stuff and things,
was sent a message to do with how these these
Jimmy jabs as Annie calls them, are going to shape
be very kept because what they're going to change the
DNA of the human race, and we're going to have
another species that's going to be formed, but not right now,
at a later date. And she has this this screen
that comes down, it's not a dream. This is like
when she's relaxed, the screen that comes down, and this
is an ongoing thing that happens. And what she told
me all this, I was astonished. This was just before lockdown.
I was like, oh my god. I thought, fuck, they're good. Sorry,
they're coming to inject us all at the door. This
is why. And I'm not a parent. I've been through
lots of shit in my life. I didn't think. I
don't think along these lines. I'm not scared of the
all these powers. But I literally thought when she told
me this, that my God is going to change DNA.
I thought, Bill Gaze is massive in England. In England,
we're gonna come. Because there was set as you know,
they were setting up in Asda. They were doing car
parts and I saw all this and I was like,
my god, they're really they're really going to try and
corrupt our DNA and take this out, and they're gonna
come and knock on our door. And I was thinking,
how are you gonna escape? You that I'm gonna run.
Speaker 4: The fuck is over.
Speaker 1: As I trying to say honestly, all this was going through,
I bought. I bought all survival stoves and all this
stuff based on not not on the stuff I saw
and tell you about about COVID. I think based on
because it's my you know, my partner who's experienced this
et stuff is one of the most honest and intuitive,
and there's a record of her getting this fight. Okay,
So she gets this message about beware, what's happening is
your DNA is going to be changed. You're gonna be
aware about there's gonna be a certain amount of human
people are going to go underground that don't have the
gw JAB. Other people are going to say above ground
will will die, and other people that won't die. And
so it was a long story that I'll go into
some other time. But what's interesting then is I then
typed this. I was I was in such a panic
over this. I typed out to my friends to do
with this whole area of Falkland's this whole black Goose site.
I said to my two friends in a sudden hemisphere,
to alec Neil, then to Dunk and I sent an
email one paragraphon I went it sounds like, look, I said,
here's what's going to happen. Sounds like our DNA is
going to be changed, and that the powers that be
sort of half know about this and half don't. I said,
I pressed send on that. Within twelve hours, all hell
broke loose. Oh my god, all my phones went, my
laptops just started overdriving, getting hot, all the stuff that's
happened before, but this was like something new. It was astonishing.
So what did that tell me? That that said that
they sort of know and they were dead interested in
this stuff that was simply an email. All sort of
stuff happens. So this again links into all this and
now substance, what's going on with the Falklands.
Speaker 4: What was this stuff?
Speaker 1: Why these ets so determined to shut this down? Why
were the British so keen to get a hold of it?
What happened when they got a hold of it? And
also Ben mentioned Boots. This is another look I will
hear playing speaking here. Ben mentioned Boots, and that's another
Miles Johnson's witness that I think is in idiots. I
don't believe any of that happened. He came out about
a week after me and said, oh yeah, my mate
worked for Boots and they threw it down. The drain
of Boots. I mean ludicrous, right, because these desires from
not not goots are basically not Nottingham. That's where I
was living. I think he got that sort of idea.
So I don't know, But the point is something happened
with this stuff. And I do believe as Andy said
that this black goo is linked somehow to what Bill
Gay has put in this stuff. But it hasn't worked.
And that's another sort Why hasn't it worked? Something hammed
And that's another story, that's another tangent.
Speaker 7: I mean, we could we could bring in if we're
talking about kind of bringing it up to speed in
a modern era, We're we're talking about Kars Stalin's digital
IDs and what Tony Blair wants to do. He sits there,
Tony Blair, and I've seen him interviewed, say oh, you know,
we could you know, bring in the mandatory vaccines.
Speaker 1: And you know he's a demon for this period, he's
a demon for it.
Speaker 7: He is a demon. He's a demon, or is at
least controlled by demons. But Tony Blair wants your vaccination
status to be linked to your digital ID. Now the
problem with that is, let's say you don't want to
be vaccinated that goes on digital ID, then you want
to pay for something at the supermarket. Oh sorry, you
can't pay for your shopping because you're not vaccinated. It
is the most dangerous demonic agenda you could possibly imagine.
The only glimmer of light that we've got is that
people don't want it, and there is massive pushback. But
the problem with the demonic agenda is what they do
is they'll pull it back a little bit and then
they'll jiggle it a bit, they'll give it a different name,
and then they'll shove it back in again. So that's
what they'll do. It's well, I mean, we're in a war.
I've said this for many years now.
Speaker 5: We are.
Speaker 1: Indeed we are.
Speaker 7: Indeed we were in a war of light against dark
demons against the human race. That's that's what the reality is.
And what I see is going on is I mean,
this is this is going to end up a complete nightmare.
What I'm hearing is that six G. Five G is
basically when you see all these little antennas on top
of all of the street lamps everywhere, five G is basically,
from what I understand, short waves, so you need lots
of antennas and they bounce off each other. So for instance,
kind of like whatever the first G was, then second second,
two G, three G. That was kind of like, from
what I understand, long waves to do with like satellites.
Five G is more kind of like it's shorter waves,
but it's bouncing off each other and creating like more
of a mesh. So they've got less distance, but they're
kind of like because there's lots of them, they're all
spread out six G. From what I understand, this is
where it gets proper on sixty is you using humans
as the body network, body network, integrating humans with the
G network and all the all the all the technocrats
love it, Bill Greate, Bill Gates and toned of it.
Oh it's the future.
Speaker 1: Bill Gates has a good wanks to all this stuff,
just like Bill, Just like Bill Gates said on that interview,
which it flawed me the time. I've got to say this.
Bill Gates is sat there with his wife who's got
the upside down cross next to her, and Bill Gates goes, Yeah,
we're going to fascinate everyone. We're going to shoot a
strange the arm. Should it straight in the arm. He
wasn't seen that one. It's astonishing. He says that the
guy basically Basically he gets off on the idea that
he's going to vaccinate people and shoot it like a
junkie stranger arm. So I mean it's mad and it
does link to frequencies. I think this stuff is all linked.
Speaker 7: Greestrial totally and it's it's it's it's all negative. But
the only the glimmer of hope is David, you mentioned that,
but it didn't work. That's the glimmer of hope. That's
what That's where I'm thinking, if there is any positivity
in this universe, which I hope there is. My think
there is. Maybe they're putting a spanner in the works
of the demons on here.
Speaker 1: They are and you know, please have me on again.
I love talking to you guys. I think it's great
that you know your you're good patient people. You let
me offer and then you come back with some good stuff.
But have me back again. I'll tell you. I'll tell
you what happened with in a different dimension. I'm not wacky,
right with with a certain tesla type structure that basically
they were they were told that this had taken place,
and this goes back to a certain person's South America
that has a whole team of people. It's a long
chit chat wing'd have. But but but essentially something happened
that stopped because do you know what, Bill Gates has
not come back. He's not come So is Bill Gates's
cocky as f right by going we're gonna shoot that.
He was. They were so sure. They've been injecting people
with this MR and A in underground bases as tests
for probably one or two decades. You know about underground bases. Yeah,
there's people in there's people in cages. It sounds it's
horrible to know about. But if you've been around to
this scene long enough, then we know that they've got
people and they're doing ex that's where it's not going
on above you know, it's not going on terrestrial above
planet level. They've got these people and they're testing these
things out on those Well, something changed because Bill Gaves
was so cocky going we're going to shoot it. They
thought they assume the death rate was going to be
and again coming to stuff, we found out it was
probably go about sixty seventy per cent of the population.
It didn't happen. Something changed and there's been a flip
in the reality. And that's another story to all this
and maybe links to the I don't know, I can't
work it out. Maybe links to this whole black cooth thing.
But there's another tangent to it. So it's fascinating. But well,
I think we're okay. Don't worry, We're okay.
Speaker 7: I think this also, I think the whole thing is meshed.
So if we look at, for instance, and know I've
run out of tinfoil here, I've got a clown horn,
honk that in a minute. But if you've got some tinfoil.
But let's I mean, let's face it. Our world leaders
are either influenced by demons, they are demons with a
human shell, or at the very least, if they are human,
they have a dark soul, and they are in secret
societies linked to satanic demonic forces. Whether it's Bohamian Grove Molloch,
whether it's the Higher Illuminati, whatever you want to call them.
These these the top agendas have a negative agenda for
the human race. And what what I speculate may have happened,
I don't think the black goo ever went away. Possibly
a black ops team came in and basically said to Marconi, right,
we'll have that. Maybe they've been tinkering with it. Maybe
they've been meddling with it, and maybe they've decided, well,
what we can use it because our dark gods tell
us to wipe out most of the human race. Will
stick elements of it because as you say, it self replicates,
and so that's the whole thing about nanotechnology. If they
found a way to self replicate it, stick it in
a vaccine, jab in the arm, and don't forget they're
pushing all sorts of vaccines in a very positive way.
Oh we've got a cancer vaccine. Now we've got our
chicken pox vaccine. Now we've got this vaccine and that
vaccine and vaccine vaccine. RMNA is the future. I've seen
these reports. R M and A is the future. They're
going full on drive of getting this stuff in people's arms.
And then you've got the integration of six G with
using human bodies and as antenna's and that's not really
tenfoil because that's now out there there are patents for this.
I think it's all I mean, the bigger picture in
a simplified term, I think you've got a demonic agenda
of people who want to control, well kill off as
many people as they can and then control the rest
of the human race as a slave race controlled by
the will probably lose their mind since the person and
analogy changes. They'll probably just almost behave like NPC's non
player characters and just go through the formalities of being human,
completely controlled by this this black go vaccine GRAPHI nux
on whatever the hell it is, controlled by six G.
And then as the norm is like us, the normal
people looking around thinking what the hell is going on?
Speaker 1: But but look at look at look that, look at
the woker younger generation. At the moment, I mean literally,
at the moment they get any sort of conflict with
their view of life, they sort of got there. They're like, understand,
you know, you know it shuts on, the shutdown is screening,
and and I think, you know, I think we are
you know, I mean me, all of us here, we're
the last sort of generation that as you have some
semblance of a route in normal, normal reality, right, And
I don't think, but I do think the goog the
black goo and this stuff and the and and certainly
what we haven't covered here is also another big area
of mine wishes, you know. In two thousand and three,
I set up the UK's first chemtrail discussion formula website. Right,
but what here's let me just say quickly what went
on with this? And it links into again how people
how do people wake up? And how how do people
then cotton onto an area just like the I mentioned
with the meme of the black goop. Well, I set
up this form in two thousand and three. It's me
and Andrew Johnson sort of works on it together, and
well I did so I had so many people come
to the side of sort of UK and a few
other people outside Europe whatever, It wasn't that many. I
got more visits from the Pentagon porn porn porn down. No,
I'm not joking. This is the first, because we're going
to two thousand. This is this is the first sort
of visual If you've ever operated a website, you know
about it. You can go into your website and you
click in and then you go and they go weblog. Well,
it used to be very basic. Suddenly about that time
it got really quite interesting that you could then find
who came from where, who did well. Honestly, my website
got more visited visitors from things like universities in America, Europe,
over here, porn down, scientifics and NASA. I had NASA
And this was to do with when chem trials weren't
even discussed online. So you know, you again, how does
how does what's fallen from the sky? And remember compared
to a vaccine that Andy, you've Teor's barriage? Well, what
the if have we been inhaling since nineteen ninety nine
and all sorts of stuff like that? And again, how
does that link into this whole four Clum's blackgoo thing?
I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know on a really simplistic basis, David. I mean,
you know, but me and you, we've all all of
us in this this chat at the moment. We've lived
a few decades, whether it's in three decades, four decades,
whatever it is, have you ever known anybody so unhealthy
and ill? Everywhere you look, like friends and family. Everyone's
got health issues, everyone's got failing health. Everyone's got either
disease or conditions, or they're just put where's the healthy people?
It didn't used to be like this. We didn't use
to have unhealthy, sick people all the time surrounding us.
Even in casual conversations, friends will say, oh, I've got
a cold, I'm feeling one down. I'm tired, I've got
no energy that the yeah where we didn't have that
decade ago, not to that extent.
Speaker 5: H Right, I think we better draw this, this this
chat to a cluse because I think we're all waning
here a bit being good out I think. But thank
you very much for David for joining us, and we
certainly would like to invite you back for a part
two to follow up on what happened to the Black Good,
maybe what happened to Marconi was still contained and where
did it end up? And what's happened to the aliens
that were trying to rescue us from this Black Good?
Speaker 6: Anything like that is as a bus interest to me.
Speaker 5: But Ben, did you just want to say a few
final words before we depart.
Speaker 4: Just basically I want to say thanks very much. It's
been really really great to be in a school. Hope
forward to the next I look forward to the next
time that we're together and we can maybe go into
more detail, because as David said, there's a lot more
to discuss here than what we've been through before. I
probably disagree with David on a few things, but I
really respect what he's doing, and he's really really cool.
I must apologize to him, actually for I must apologize
to him if I if I got very drowsy during
the what for the event at the UFO Academy Waken
and where it's because I just I always do a conference,
especially when I sleep well the night before.
Speaker 1: So it actually you were sat next to me then
in the audience were.
Speaker 4: Not Yeah, just because it's I wasn't sleeping very well.
And what I'm gonna do next time about that, I'll
make sure I stay at a proper place where I
can have like.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a line of Charlie, A nice Charlie.
Speaker 4: I'll take whatever they gave Joe Biden when But thanks
very much, baby, it's been good too. It's been good
to talk. She really as I.
Speaker 6: Must have been.
Speaker 5: I've sat next to Bennett conferences and know he's been
nodding off. So yeah, we have had a lot Ben
Roder or something to keep them away.
Speaker 1: We love Ben. There's there's just a great person that's
been around for twenty odd years in the conspiracy scene
and and you know we love Ben. It's just someone
that aws turns up and it makes you feel at home.
When Ben turns up to an event, it's great.
Speaker 7: But in Ben's defense, these are for people who aren't
aware of the UFO Academy and Watford. They usually have
about four talks and each talk is two hours long straight.
Sometimes they go over, so that's eight hours of pure
talking and demonstrations and talks. Fascinating though they may be,
it's it is kind of quite exhausting and draining, not
just physically but also kind of like the amount of
information your brain has to take in eight hours.
Speaker 4: It's a great e then I love it. But it's
a great I really love it, and we'll do everything
I can to go to the next one.
Speaker 1: But it's it's quite yeah, especially if you're a Simon
Parks and you get an extra three hours for everyone
to waffle on about ship to do is that he
thinks he's affected Trump, he's done this and that and
search bull ship. I mean, I mean, I mean, if
you want to if you're to fall asleep, there the
fall seas Simon Parks right, never mind, Sorry, I had
I had a bout with him the way when he
first came out as a quote labor counselor, which he
wasn't anyway, never mind, sorry, I'll shut up there. I'm
getting trouble I've had I should just shut Okay, please
invite me back. I've had a great time.
Speaker 5: In Everybody dugged in so that we can upload our
video to things. So even if you want to mute
your mic and switch off your camera, just stay on
the browser because we need that browser open so that
I can take your recordings from your computers.
Speaker 6: And and the speed are going to help me do
sit uploading recordings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, stay logged in and stay contentious.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, also says Natasha. There because I didn't say
hello to hers, so helo Natasha.
Speaker 1: Right, right, right, right minute, you're right. So she's going
to kill me for this. She's in a dressing gown.
Speaker 4: Call it alo Natasha.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's marking a teacher schoolwork ready for tomorrow, right,
she argues, all right, yeah, does this right?
Speaker 7: I'm going to go.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It's been a great chat, I compared to
most charts and in a great chat. Thank you, and
please please have me bad. We'll go on with the Marconi.
It gets much weirder. And if you then follow what
Ben might I mean? Ben was probably sleep. But if
you know what I discussed, the wafers, it gets crazy,
it gets mikedrolled crazy, so so so inviney back.
Speaker 5: Well watching you've been watching the Paranormal peep Show on
the Paranorm the UK Radio Network or listening to it
indeed on the parentom the UK Radio Network. Thank you
once again to David for joining us talking about all
things Marconi and Blackgoo and the Fuldon Islands and where
else it goes to. Thanks to Ben Emlin Jones and
the Chaplain for joining us as well. And they can
find out more about your stuff on tune events. Is
that right on facebe.
Speaker 7: On tuned in events on Facebook and Instagram, and don't
forget to pop down to your local supermarket, get a
massive roll of tinfoil and make a nice little cone
hat has to do.
Speaker 5: And Ben, they can find out about your stuff on
Hipamwo Voice.
Speaker 4: That's right, HPA and wor Hospital Porters against the New
World Order. And check out my book roswhil Rising, a
novel of Disclosure, which is all about these sort of things.
So that it's been great great to be on the
show again, guys, Thanks very much.
Speaker 5: I did forget to put David's a question to him
regard on his own website, but he's gone now so
we'll have to leave it and maybe add it later
on or something.
Speaker 6: But great.
Speaker 5: We're joining us next month, hopefull We're trying to get
David in for next month or at least very soon
for part two to this, because it's been absolutely fascinating.
There's a lot more to come. So thanks very much
for joining us, and I hope you've all enjoyed it.
Speaker 6: Good Night.
Speaker 5: The published wanted to.
Speaker 4: Butt then not hanted with nothing, but the little hating
never acted to art, and the never