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he drilled the peep hole out to this to know

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who was coming. Well, whilst I tell it someone was

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after that? Was it a demon? Was it some et

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group or was it MI I five or Marconi themselves?

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to kill yourself, do you want to burn to death?

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from the holiday, had stacked ten gallons of petrol bos

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his master car, more than eighty miles prime and disused

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roadside cafe near Basingstoke. Colleagues and families say he had

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been depressed and police are working on the theory that

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he deliberately crashed the car. SAMs was said to be

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a brilliant scientist and had just finished a three year

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contract working on top secret radar system.

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Speaker 1: And it's astonishing if you think you bring an alien

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substance back to a normal electronics company and no matter

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how abouts they are imagine this shit, it's alien way

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out and they try and then tame it and it

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doesn't quite work, and there's a fallout. My theories the

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don't give these switch offs, I'm going to nuke Gardin

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and this is true, I'm going to New Guargentina.

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it's time for the Paranormal Peep Show.

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Speaker 4: Hi, welcome to the Paranormal Peep Show.

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Speaker 5: So we are joined once again by co hosts Ben

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Speaker 4: How are you Ben? Hello? Neil very well? Thank you? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yes, very excited.

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Speaker 5: And we've got Andy Chapman as well join us in Hertfordshire.

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Speaker 7: Pretty good?

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Speaker 7: I think we're talking about the black Goo. I'd be

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the black Goo.

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Speaker 7: If our a listener don't know what that's about, they'll

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on black It's not a program about malassic so cooking

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Speaker 5: It's quite a serious topic actually, and I do have

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some weird connections in direct Rangel.

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Speaker 7: I mean the thing is as a paranoral peep show

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is meant to be about the weird and the wonderful

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and this is going properly in a tangent of weird,

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interesting topic to gill our teeth into, isn't it so?

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main researcher in this area himself is David Griffis. And

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Griffin sorry, I've really got him, Griffin, yeah, sorry, beg

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your pardon. So David, welcome very much to the Paranormal

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Speaker 6: And it's good to see you. And how are you okay?

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Speaker 4: And I know all you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I've met you, Neil, but I

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appreciate the invite onto your show. I've known Ben for

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like Lydiel twenty years. Me and him have been hope

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lobbying around conferences for probably twenty twenty two years. I

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any Aaron needs a bit of humor, is the uk

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UFO conspiracy scene, because there are a light road of

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that I'm interested in is oil. Okay, it's a little

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, are you get to it? And I'm going

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to give you a good job. You're going to get

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Black Gooo. I'm see I know good. I'm no good?

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Speaker 1: See if you say it's the great job term you

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of quake Quakers and Methodists. I mean, but we're talking

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sort of transcendent moment off into these other spaces and

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so on. D MT. I'll just I'll just give a

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brief summary of this I took on I think one

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of the first DMT doses that sort of came into England.

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people got it. We had to draw straws and I

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ended up getting a straw and it's to a degree.

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don't want to distribute this to people not saying this

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is not a drug dealing thing, because it shocked me.

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but it really shook the core of my being, which

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doesn't happen very often to many of us. And I think,

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you're out there, especially in the outdoor events, you're taking psychedelics, whatever,

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then you get this called communal feeling and the whole

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idea that you're perhaps merging earth and sky, all these

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hippie cliches and stuff. You know, you might see a

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few things that that make you feel this this sort

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of cosmic way. And it's interesting because ten or twelve

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years later, when it came to starting some of the

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contact stuff that Ben came along and did one of

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the very early things too, then it's a very similar

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feeling to do with this that you know, you get

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these craft flying around and the C five sort of contact,

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then a similar sort of feeling happens. So there's some

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link between the cycle, its state and the whole maybe

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the whole idea of the craft maybe due to turn

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up in the next few years to come encounter us

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as a species on this planet. But anyway, that's a

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separate sort of thing too. Let me let me just

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finish so the the so really after then after after

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doing the sort of the race stuff for whatever else,

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the the whole idea. What that's interesting between the why

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called the Anaki Ufo scenes. So we used to have

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Graham Burzil who you'll probably know who did was it

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Speaker 1: Who the grain Burstil?

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Speaker 4: The original conference? I never went to them. Unfull show

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started with Anziy Beckett's conferences. But he used to do

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these great conferences in Leeds, you know, and run.

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it called UFO or whatever?

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Speaker 1: It's a long time but a great guy. But you know,

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they did really well with the audiences. But the I'll

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just say this, so so the exopologists came along because

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it's sort of it was sort of a way of saying,

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my god, well, how long do we go along being

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sort of these people are just spotting lights in the

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sky what happens on a polistical and cultural level, which

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I really liked. I thought that was interesting. And the

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peak result of that was I think twenty ten, when

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we had lots of European exopolitics websites and collectives going.

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So we went to Spain and we got astonishing audient

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and I think we'd beat every audience apart from the

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recent ones that have been done in what's that place

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called something in the desert? I'll contact all the desert, right, Yeah,

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I mean they got a huge audience and stuff, but

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I think we got like two and a half thousand

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people made maybe more, and that was in a hotel

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in Spain, and that was just this exopoltist which most

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people haven't heard of seen. So that whole area did

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really well. But the point was why did I fall

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out with that area? And that's because they refused in

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a weird way because it was all to do with

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file release of governments, So you know, who's releasing files?

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What are they allowing us to see? And all the

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other stuff to do with governments and military whistleblowers and

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government whistleblowers, which take.

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Speaker 4: You so far?

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Speaker 1: What did Exopologist didn't What did it not include? And

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that was to do with contact ease and the power

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of contact ease to add to the narrative of disclosure.

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And that was my big issue because I was leaning

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more towards that. So I left the expotics thing and

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I went into my own contact stuff. I've had huge

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stuff there and it's an interesting area. Perhaps we can

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cover it another time if you want me back on

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your show. But until that point, but here's the segue

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between the two. Just at that moment, I was getting

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tired of the exopolitics sort of theme. It was going

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a bit wacky for me. What happened is I ended

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up a great friend of mine from Australia sent me

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a DVD which was done by a guy. It's called

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Nexus Magazine from Australia and it had a guy who

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talked about the Falklands. His name is Alec Nuld.

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Speaker 4: So this is a.

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Speaker 1: Conference DVD that I got really quite late after it

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and this guy called Alec Nuld's soho i'd heard of before.

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I knew done a book, but I didn't know much

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about it. What I didn't know is that his sperit

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it centered mostly on the Falkland Isles, which of course

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we're all Brits. We know that that was a core war.

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I mean, I don't know if you're as ancient old

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as me, but there's a core war that went on

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in eighty one eighty two. And so all I did

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I wrote, I wrote, I think what's interesting is Alan

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Nules on this Nexus and Nexus magazine a big magazine.

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I mean that you know the guy whos run the

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magazine on a shoe string for ages. It's a great magazine.

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think that Alan Yuld, now I know him, I get

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what perhaps why I did this, But he made a

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point of saying something like not not if any British

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people out there, but he made a point of going

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the Falkland Isles. We don't know much about it, but

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I was told this was central and here's the points

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about the Falkland Islands to do with his contact and

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what was going on down there. And don't forget the

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Falken Islands are very close to Antarctica. So I wrote

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to him and from then on we this is like

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twenty ten, twenty eleven. We then developed a relationship with

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also with Duncan from next I've seen where for like

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five six, seven years. We then went on and researched

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the whole issue between and this is the crucial bit.

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At these are the points and I wish I had

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a bit more the ability to quickly pop up, pop

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up some images and some slides and stuff, because it

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makes it a bit more clear. But if you've got

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to imagine if you're going to understand this area, it's

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hugely complex. But it also isn't you know, in a

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way it slides together so perfectly, and so you've got

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essentially you've got a war went on in the Falklands

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down down in that area of the Falklands. There were

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some etis linked to the guy this contact to Alan

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Yuld and his whole account is so authentic. I mean,

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if you're an idiot, if you don't believe it within

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the first five secings, then you've got no brain. I

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mean it's easy. I mean he got arrested. Interesting, he

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got arrested in the center of jail over this. But

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there's an English link that's fascinating that you'll offered. You'll

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all three, all three of you will know of a

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strange shady group called Chathamhouse.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Royal Institutent's National Affairs.

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Speaker 1: That's it, you see. And they but they're other, you're right, Ben,

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And their other name is REA or the Royal Issue

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of International Affairs, and they're linked to the Queen and

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all this stuff. And the last shot I remember looking

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at the time was off sort of missus Thatcher, she

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was sat there and the Queen and stuff. I mean,

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the sort of thing you think, well, are these people

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interested in the UFO issue? And you go, you're kidding me?

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My god, them Morris? Is it in which Samon has

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come from Loch Loman's And if it's tasty or that's

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that's the royals and missus Thatch for you, right. But

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but no, they this rear turned up. They sent them over.

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They found out that this my friend from from New

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Zealand had basically had been abducted. His car had been

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taken away by UFO and as they put the car

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back together. Bear with me here sounds wacky. Bear with me.

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As as these ets then putting back on the earth,

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they weren't expecting to have to do that. He has

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to be put back after his experienced. Long story, what

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happened is they sort of reformed his car. Well, look

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we see this on Star Trek don we altogether, you

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know Star Trek doors. This sh all the time in

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they made meals and again baking sandwich in their confabulator

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or whether it's ah the lovely meal. You know, they

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pull these stuff out so this stuff can be done

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with molecules. So, but what happens He then put his

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car in it wasn't working properly. He rives back after

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this contact mission. And but but Jaguarine, New Zealand, and

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this is hilarious to me. This is hilarious because my

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cousin works quite high up in Jaguar Birmingham, and I've

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been dying to ask about this. But I'm a bit

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of a black sheep in my family, so I don't

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do it right. So I've always wanted to know, my God,

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what would happen in this case. So his his car

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distributor in Kibi Land in New Zealand sent back the

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fact we think is this engine management system very early,

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very early on in the whole idea of computer chips.

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They send it back to Jaguarin Britain. Jag and Britain go,

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oh my god, and who did What's interesting? And again

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there's not discussed really who did Jaguine know what? How

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did Jaguine Britain know that when they received this circuit board?

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Very basic one on the first basics, how did they

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know that? Instead of just keeping it within Jaguar herself

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in Britain or Jaguar world Ride. No, they sent it

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off to someone in some intelligence firm in Britain m

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I six, m I five, don't know who. And then

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the reaction was then to then send to the contact

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in New Zealand, how did you get this this circuit board?

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Apparently Jaguar then said in Britain they're like, what the

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f This thing is a mirrored? In other words, what

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the ets? And and I love this because I've got

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a friend of mine to do with Roswell and the

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rossworld Craft. He is always like, well, look the rosserld craft.

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It shouldn't have it shouldn't have crashed in nineteen forty

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seven because the ets are all knowing and they could

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have reversed time and all this stuff. And I'm like, look,

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look even ets on that just because they're ets, they're

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not that they're.

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Speaker 4: Not that clever.

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Speaker 1: They can't always do stuff. And the same hand with this,

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that's the essentially I'm putting this car back together after

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his aduction, which included the car, they put back this

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circuit board. But it was done in a mirror way

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and in a way that makes total sense to me.

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You know, even eats don't always get it right. Okay.

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So the result was then that after finding this this

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circuit board, Jaguar, I mean, it's huge. We all know

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Jaguar been going for yours in Britain, some of the

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first cars, fantastic cars, right. They were like, no, we're

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not having this. What's going on? Alerted British Intelligence, which

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then turned out to EA Chattinghouse or r I I.

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As as Ben mentioned, they then sent not the usual

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men in black types, but some very strange sort of

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normal types over with that apparently came from this rear.

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But there were engineers to then question that and annuled

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on where this stuff had come from. And they've got

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a vague idea because of various other things that happened

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that they got in touch with South Africans who'd found

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out about the ship taken off and the new Zealand

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Satellite Intelligence Service. So it gets complex there. So there's

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a start to what sort of kicked off this whole thing,

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And you know, I a few come back. That's that's

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my attempt and introdution. If you come back, if you

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want to say which part of you're interesting, I can

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sort of plug plug through on a narrative, or we

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can do a few of the things. It's up to you.

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But it's a huge area. But if you want to

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give me some guidance on the bit you're interesting, I'll

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go to each other area you're interested.

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Speaker 4: I'll shut it. So how did go? And Ben I

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was just say this is it's really it is very interesting,

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this whole subject and about how it ties in with

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the Falklands were and how even when I was even

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when I was a little kid and I went I

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was the kid at school when the falcons will happened.

477
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,000
But I remember thinking to himself, what's all this about?

478
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:31,519
What's so special about these islands? Firstly, our government under

479
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,480
Margaret Sasha went to a huge amount of effort to

480
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,440
recapture the islands, And firstly I asked him why was that?

481
00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:42,200
And that led to the inevitable question is why Argentina

482
00:22:42,279 --> 00:22:46,279
invaded in the first place, because I mean, I mean,

483
00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:48,519
I know now because of what's his name, Mille, because

484
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,400
have a Mille. He's kind of kind of said this

485
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,359
almost that the whole what they call Malvinitis, which is

486
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,279
there it's kind of self deprecating joke and Argentina about

487
00:22:56,279 --> 00:22:59,880
this obsession with the falklan Isers. It was essentially a

488
00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:02,839
it was it was a fantasy invented by the military junter,

489
00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:07,759
but it was never You don't carry out invasions because

490
00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:11,720
of a fantasy, you just Argentine itself went to a

491
00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:14,759
huge amount of effort to invade and occupy those islands.

492
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,400
And for what I mean, what's this? What's those special islands?

493
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,279
And of course there's several answers to that, I mean

494
00:23:22,519 --> 00:23:25,559
have been posted. There was an oil field there, which

495
00:23:25,559 --> 00:23:27,079
is the thing is the oil field there's never been

496
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,640
developed considerably. You know, Falklands oil is not a big thing.

497
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,640
But there was some I think David would explained about

498
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,440
the Mexican hats, you know and things. Was it the

499
00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:41,400
the guys with the hats. David will probably explain that

500
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,480
better than me. But that's kind of how where where

501
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,119
the story.

502
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: Goes from so here's so Ben mentioned this, and what's

503
00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:51,559
interesting is, of course that the British and this is

504
00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:53,559
what makes the whole thing a bit bizarre, but also

505
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,119
backs at the points to do with Marconi and this

506
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,519
black goo and why they went in. And then we

507
00:23:59,599 --> 00:24:01,799
get into to you know, I don't want to overload

508
00:24:01,839 --> 00:24:03,759
people on uties this. Then we get into the hole

509
00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:07,799
that I spent many months in a place called Q Gardens,

510
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:13,160
which is the British Freedom of Information Act Library Center, right, so,

511
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:16,039
and stuff like photos of stuff like this came up,

512
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,359
and so did reasons about why we were there sort of.

513
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,799
But I'll just say this, so right down there in fact,

514
00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:24,640
Ben's right, let's get a bloody photo. This is it,

515
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,680
because you know everyone people need to see where this is.

516
00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:30,599
And this is why I wish I could just load

517
00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:32,680
the PowerPoint and they click through this, right, which he

518
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,119
says you can do in fans, let's try baseballs.

519
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,559
Speaker 4: But so I recognized that this is the base that

520
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,000
Argentina put on the eye. This is this is not

521
00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:42,079
in the Foulton nineans. This is so in the South

522
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,279
Sandwich Islands, well Southern fuel It's they put it there illegally,

523
00:24:46,279 --> 00:24:51,079
in nineteen seventy six, they set it up. Yeah, no

524
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,240
one could be bothered to really kick them off because

525
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,920
I mean, obviously it was completely legal because this is

526
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,960
still a British it's British territory. But no one because

527
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,720
it was just so far away, you know, no one

528
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,000
could be bothered at going a victim, and so they

529
00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:05,960
just let them get away with But after Falkland's War

530
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,480
they did well you tell a story, Dave were hammened

531
00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:08,880
after that.

532
00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:14,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, well yeah, so we got here again.

533
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,240
It's it's and again, this is my childhood. This is

534
00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:19,920
this is why Alan Yule who'd experienced all this stuff

535
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:24,880
and was and was told when he spent seven ten

536
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,400
days on this with his his alien peer group, where

537
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,720
they told him all about this and they said, well,

538
00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:33,240
this Falking War was going on, but it's all actually

539
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,079
a lot to do with there's a bass that's actually

540
00:25:36,079 --> 00:25:38,880
producing this sentient nano. This is what I call it,

541
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,079
so not black goo sent in nanos. We're we're all now,

542
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:44,400
we're all in the AI age, so I don't believe in.

543
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,039
I mean, Blackgood's a great to him, but come on,

544
00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:48,079
we're adults. Let's let's let's you know, we can all

545
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,279
use the dictionary. We're all on the internet where we

546
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:51,839
see this sort of these sort of words coming up.

547
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,880
You're not a tough he nose twist by just using

548
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,279
the term centience like and it's like, you know, I've

549
00:25:56,279 --> 00:25:57,839
had bople say to me it's like, oh was I

550
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,920
use that term? You know it's just like king read

551
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:02,519
going by addiction. You know, it's not hard sentient to

552
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:04,720
nano substance. We know this does. Don't be an imbecile

553
00:26:05,319 --> 00:26:07,440
really pissing me off because you know, in a way,

554
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,440
I think language helps us understand areas. And believe me,

555
00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:13,880
the Illuminati, as I call the mass in noughty, the Illuminati,

556
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,200
they love using language to cloud and obscure our understanding

557
00:26:18,279 --> 00:26:20,359
of things. So we have to make sure that we're

558
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,799
prepared and we understand language. So I'm a big advocate

559
00:26:23,799 --> 00:26:25,640
for like, we'll just find out what words doing and

560
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,079
use words yourself. It's not about big words, but use

561
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,839
them so sentient, nano substance and so these these allies

562
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,279
of Alec and it's again the longest toy. They basically said,

563
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,319
so what's interesting? Ben mentioned their seventy six bang on

564
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,039
interesting the British does send a huge and this is

565
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,400
just a giveaway. I mean, so the British sent down

566
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,960
it's called Operation Keyhole in nineteen seventy six. We sent down.

567
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,720
I mean, I could list them, but it was like

568
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:53,279
a frigate this. I'm not a navy person. I haven't

569
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:55,279
got any bell bottoms, so I don't know. But I

570
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:58,079
couldn't list all the things that went down. There is

571
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,160
like frigate this that anyway, But I'm just astonishing because

572
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,960
or because a few Argentinians they thought they were disguised soldiers.

573
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,079
I've spoken to them and this is the difference. Again.

574
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,759
There's a lot of efforts that have taken my research

575
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,720
and I've gone and said they. I've even had I

576
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,160
think I've now three quote to British soldiers, you know,

577
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,359
And this is why I'm quite happy to do this interview.

578
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,799
I'd like to correct a few things to go honest. The

579
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,240
three people that then have gone on, including had such

580
00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:28,839
a Rawid Miles, John Service, equal, one guy up who

581
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:31,519
claimed he was there, and even a guy on YouTube.

582
00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:35,440
I said, I said, mate, yeah, Ben, you probably you know,

583
00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:38,039
I don't know. I only counted him a few years ago.

584
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,720
But I'm not a navy man. I don't know about

585
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:42,799
naval movements and all this stuff that was going on.

586
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,039
What was interesting, as I knew from his language, from

587
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:48,000
his language, I was like, you weren't there. I know

588
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:50,559
because I've heard first time accounts of people that were

589
00:27:50,599 --> 00:27:53,680
there and other stuff to do with anyway, And what's

590
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,599
what's what's interesting is then for the same guy and

591
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,680
again this is one of three people have claimed to

592
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,960
be then you've got to say we're all paranoid sort

593
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,480
of conspiracy people. I'm not always leaned towards that way,

594
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,160
but it's it's interesting how many of these are agents

595
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,000
and how many have just deluded people that want a

596
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,559
bit of attention. But I think this guy was that

597
00:28:12,599 --> 00:28:14,440
Miles put on. I let Myles know it, and Miles

598
00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:16,880
it spin Miles it speeds for like two years because

599
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,319
I said, Myles, this guy's fucking do for us. He's

600
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,759
making it up. What's interesting is that years after then,

601
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:25,000
I had this ride with Miles over this guy a

602
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,920
a a member of the British was it in the Marines,

603
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:32,200
but he was also sort of that could work out

604
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:36,480
shipping movements from geolocation. Not that what's what's the word,

605
00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:39,559
but well, latitudes and longitude of ship's logs, right, And

606
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,440
he came on under my comments, but I was very polite.

607
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,440
I just said, don't believe a word of it. I've

608
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,920
heard this and that I don't believe you were there.

609
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:48,160
And this guy he goes, actually the ship he claims

610
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,079
to be on wasn't anywhere near the Falklands for this.

611
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,400
So so this areas has found a lot of fakers

612
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,519
and other people and that. But in a way, it's

613
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:00,680
like you've got to ask school why again, what is that?

614
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,319
Why is it that people attracted to actually lying about

615
00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:07,720
this area? But so seventy six keyhole went up, but

616
00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:09,880
they didn't then take on this base to the British,

617
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,039
to the Argentinian. And if you look at this image

618
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:15,839
here and again, I'll send near some far better. I mean,

619
00:29:15,839 --> 00:29:19,960
I've got far better images. This is not a two

620
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,200
bit as you makes they put together base. This is

621
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:25,599
a base that's a proper what they call arctic or

622
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:29,039
antarctic hardened base. It's off the ground, it's high tech,

623
00:29:29,839 --> 00:29:32,400
and I think it held about thirty two people at

624
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,200
one point. But again going back to the guy who

625
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,680
went to miles and the base and stuff. The difference

626
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,440
is that I've I spent time in contacting and I

627
00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:44,039
found the son of one of the guy who's actually

628
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:49,839
a weatherman on this base, but a proper Argentinian guy,

629
00:29:50,319 --> 00:29:52,400
and he was there when the British came in and

630
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,319
flew helicopters over. So I've got first hand information on

631
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:59,759
this stuff. And you've got to actually yourself why did

632
00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:01,440
the brid as soon as they set up the space

633
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:04,039
they send this Operation Keyhole. This is all stuff you

634
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:09,000
can find in the freedom information stuff Operation Keyhole. But

635
00:30:09,079 --> 00:30:10,960
the key point here and then I'll finish on thought

636
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,240
for a bit. The key point here is what did

637
00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:17,559
I find when I tackled this whole idea with this

638
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,640
alien you know again sending nano or black goo, I

639
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,240
an alien technology which they told that I knew they'd

640
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:28,640
been de engineering. That's a crucial term since the First

641
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,680
World War era. So they'd found a stash of a

642
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:36,400
very high tech nano substance in this area of southern though,

643
00:30:36,839 --> 00:30:39,799
and these ets, the linked An and Newles have been

644
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:43,400
panically trying to de engineer. And that's a crucial because

645
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,000
there's a danger, as we know from nanotech. It's something

646
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:54,200
that if it spawns, respawns, accelerates, then it can cause chaale.

647
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,960
You have to control this stuff. You have to know

648
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,279
what you're doing because essentially quantum melocke molecular stuff that

649
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:05,880
can cause huge problems. So it's yeah, right, do you

650
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,440
want to come in there?

651
00:31:07,559 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 4: Because I can. I can add something to that later, David,

652
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,640
because it's something happened in another part of the world

653
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,640
related to that. But because just add about Operation Keyhole

654
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,960
that as you can see here, this is a fully

655
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,880
fledged proper, you know, polar base. And indeed the Argentina

656
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,680
had this presence here. It was like scientific research of

657
00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:27,720
some kind. But it's obviously something like this is not

658
00:31:28,039 --> 00:31:29,720
first it's not. Its cost a lot of money and

659
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:31,279
a lot of effort to set this up and to

660
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,839
maintain it because there's no vegetation there. You can't grow food,

661
00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:36,680
there's no fun that. You could never set up a

662
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,720
farm here. Yeah.

663
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 5: Good.

664
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:42,279
Speaker 4: It is an antarctic climate. It's freezing cole all the

665
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,079
year around. It's just penguins there, and so it was

666
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:46,880
pretty a bit of a miserable place. I wouldn't go

667
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,839
there on holiday really. But what happened was there was

668
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,920
no real effort to actually remove them. It's just because

669
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,119
it was so far away and remote, I say, eviction

670
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,559
seemed to be a bit of superfluous. It was normally bothered.

671
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:02,519
But after the British victory and then on the Falklands

672
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,359
War in the Falkland Islands and South Georgia and the

673
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,279
liberation of the Falkland Islands dependency, the government decided, well,

674
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:12,079
let's go sort this out once and for all. Now

675
00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:14,720
we're here, let's go and kick the argies off Southern Siel.

676
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,240
So they sent h mess Endurance down there. That's the

677
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:21,000
polar as Royal Navy's polar ship with the Royal Marine

678
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:25,640
Special Boat Squadron and Special Boat Service whatever it's called,

679
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,240
the Special Forces, and they daisy land on the island.

680
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,559
There's three hundreds of these guys. They surrounded the base

681
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:32,960
order the people inside come out, and because there was

682
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,839
only a handful of them, they very sensibly decided they would.

683
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:37,880
So they came out with their hands up. They were

684
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,039
taken back on board. They were taking them aboard the

685
00:32:40,119 --> 00:32:43,119
Durance and put in the brig and returned to Argentina.

686
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:46,319
Now what was and you could see here this is

687
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,680
a I think maybe photo of what's left of the base. Now,

688
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,279
what was the the special forces? They blew the base up.

689
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:56,200
But if there's actually a photograph somewhere, maybe you've got it, David.

690
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,319
Speaker 1: I've got it.

691
00:32:56,359 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 4: I've just put it.

692
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: I've just put it up a notion if Neil can

693
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,160
do it, that the difference between that beautiful and proper

694
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,079
Antarctic base and then have a look at what's left

695
00:33:07,119 --> 00:33:10,039
over afterwards. And this was apparently I don't know whether

696
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:12,720
it was the Sas or who are the Marines, but

697
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:15,200
someone came and used it. At the start we thought

698
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,599
it was a mini and you but we're all lost

699
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,240
in like nine to eleven type bulshes, right, so there

700
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:23,599
wasn't a mini U. They used cutting charges or what's

701
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,000
what's welding? Welding you know when you cut well? Yeah,

702
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,039
or what do you do I don't know anyway what

703
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:32,240
you do with well to chop things off fast? Maybe

704
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:34,880
thermos anyway, So Neil, there's what have you put it up?

705
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,119
Speaker 4: Now? I can't sell I can see there's PHYSI off

706
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,440
the remains of the base now. But what's interesting is

707
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,680
the actual it's the actual picture of the aftermath of

708
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,799
the explosion because it's pretty clear that they used a

709
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,559
very large explosion explosion explosive device, a huge bomb to

710
00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:51,759
blow this this thing up. And indeed you can see

711
00:33:51,759 --> 00:33:54,119
and I know people made the mistake of thinking it

712
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,359
was a new It wasn't a new but it was

713
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,160
a very large explosive charge they used. Because there's an

714
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,160
enormous cloud of first mushroom shaped cloud of smoke above

715
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,640
the islands. Should take it from Endurance after the operation.

716
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:09,079
Speaker 1: From Endurance.

717
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:12,039
Speaker 4: You think I can't find it anywhere, but I've seen

718
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:14,039
the photograph. I didn't know if you had that. There

719
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,239
was a photograph showing It's an all black and white

720
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,639
photo showing this huge mushroom crowd above southern Fiel after

721
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,760
they blew the weight up, and I think, see if

722
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,519
i'd find it, I'll send it to you, David, because

723
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:27,440
I have seen it and it's pretty clear. And of

724
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,760
course this is because what what was really going on

725
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,639
on southern theord which I'm sure you'll explain what was

726
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:37,159
really going on there and the real and this could be,

727
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,400
it could be this was the entire reason for the war.

728
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:45,360
Firstly Argentina's invasion and occupation to begin with, and secondly

729
00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:48,079
the government, the effort the government went to liberate the ite,

730
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:50,880
you would think if it's nowadays, I don't think I

731
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,119
don't think Starma could be bothered quite frankly, but I

732
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:55,639
mean normally they don't care about things like this. They

733
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,960
just the would be some diplomatic protests and that kind

734
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,000
of be the end of it.

735
00:34:59,679 --> 00:35:02,079
Speaker 1: I know. But you raise it an interesting point, especially

736
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:04,400
with let's be a bit topical here, even though Neil

737
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,400
says this might go out in March, but we've just

738
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,840
had the old Maduro thing and you know, and what's

739
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,599
interesting is is that of course the British and again

740
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,039
just to give a quick history to this area then

741
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,159
you know around here then don't forget, the name is

742
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,559
sudden Thull or Trully and in German this means this

743
00:35:21,679 --> 00:35:26,599
certain form of energy, you know, which because the Germans,

744
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:29,440
who are fantastical, the Germans loved in the thirties real

745
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,719
full same sort of thing, full society. The Germans love

746
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,760
this area, They loved Antarctica. They were some of the

747
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,760
first to map it, right, So you've got to ask yourself,

748
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,360
what's you know, what's the what's the relevance of the

749
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,599
name that the Germans gave to it, and and this

750
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,440
sort of if we look at a whole sort of consciousness,

751
00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:51,079
cosmological sort of language grid right, or language sort of vortex,

752
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:54,599
why would they call this sudden thaw when full represents this.

753
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,960
But what's what? Let me break down what I think

754
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,360
happened before the end of the war. And this is

755
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,400
sort of semi borne out in other ways by the

756
00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:05,480
don't forget you know again, I'm not just some dottter

757
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:07,679
that found this stuff and decided to waffle bout a

758
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:08,960
contact to your account or whatever.

759
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 7: This.

760
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: I went down to Queue Gardens, sat there, paid a

761
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,360
lot of money to get documents back to do with

762
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,079
the end which I'll come to in a minute, of

763
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,480
the Falklands War, and why strangely this island seemed to

764
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:22,679
have far more attention than Paul Stanley, which is if

765
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:27,320
you watch the news footage from the eighties time frame,

766
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,800
then of course most of the war was for as

767
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,159
Ben says, this is the South Sandwich Islands. I mean,

768
00:36:31,159 --> 00:36:32,719
I've got to get a I've got to get a

769
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,079
map up. In a minute, one of you can talk

770
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,159
and I'll get your max because I think your viewers

771
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:40,440
need to see where this is. It will, and it

772
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,159
will show also how close it is to Antarctica. But

773
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:44,000
let you just say this.

774
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 4: Clear about that, and it is. Literally it's one of

775
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,320
the most remotest and inaccessible places on Earth. It's a

776
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,000
place where hardly anyone has been I mean there's been

777
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,320
a few there's been a few bases that have been

778
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,480
put in there, mostly by Argentina since the fifties, but

779
00:36:58,559 --> 00:37:01,079
really no one's ever lived there, no one that nobody

780
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:08,880
ever lives there before. There's no there's no vegetation, no one's.

781
00:37:08,639 --> 00:37:10,119
Speaker 6: No sheep there, no.

782
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:12,559
Speaker 4: But they can. But what you can do is you

783
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:16,360
can put bases on the end. Indeed, as without Antarctica,

784
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,639
and I can tell you a whole old of stories

785
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:20,239
about Antarctica. This is essentially an island off the coast

786
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:25,400
of Antarctica. And again it makes you wonder why there

787
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:28,320
is this focus on this tiny little essentially a lump

788
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,880
of rock and ice sits sticking out the sea, which

789
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:33,599
is just used as a resting place for penguins. Yet

790
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,199
a huge amount of focus, ever long before the actual

791
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,159
nineteen eighty two more has been paid to this little,

792
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,800
tiny piece of land, which is you could walk across

793
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,480
it in like half an hour. It's only like about

794
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,039
a mile across, very small, and it's part of the

795
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:52,280
South Sandwich Island Change. Again, it's an uninhabited a little

796
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,960
crescent shaped row of rocks sticking out the sea, basically

797
00:37:56,159 --> 00:37:58,159
ice or ice most of the year around. I think

798
00:37:58,159 --> 00:37:59,760
it's frozen over the sea quite a lot of time.

799
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,199
Speaker 7: So yeah, that's the way Bergs original Nazi connection with this.

800
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,599
Speaker 4: But oh, don't get me started on that. But yeah,

801
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:11,719
but David's right, the Nazis did have. In fact, I'm

802
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,960
not going to tell a story about the guy I

803
00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:15,400
met who said he knew all about this, but the

804
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,199
Nazis had a very interesting fixation on Antarctica. And indeed,

805
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,840
we're going to this Operation high Jump and the British

806
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,320
expedition that took place afterwards. I'm not going to go

807
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,840
to details about that now because we'd be here for

808
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,239
two hours. But but you mentioned you mentioned the Nexu's magazine, David,

809
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,159
and Marcus Allen is a good friend of the show,

810
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:36,599
and we know really well take.

811
00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:39,199
Speaker 1: A great guy and a great, a great a great

812
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,639
moon Moon enthusias, so who knows his job.

813
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 4: We've done the Apollo Detectives with him, and he's great, Yeah,

814
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:48,039
but next to cover this in details.

815
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:53,119
Speaker 1: A full cleansed map to that in David, just because

816
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:55,480
Ben's I just want to show you where's and Ben

817
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:57,559
can talk about it. Just just see how far he's

818
00:38:57,599 --> 00:38:59,880
half in Britain but also half half from Argentina, but

819
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:03,360
also how far from the what do you call them, Ben, like,

820
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,480
poor Stanley, I'm the main Falkland islands.

821
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not. It's a separate the Falkland independency. It

822
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:12,159
basically just the Falkland Islands that surrounding waters. But there's

823
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,000
there's South Georgia, and and then there's the there's the

824
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,199
islands South Georgia, and then if you go if you

825
00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:22,920
go southeast from that, that's after about three hundred miles,

826
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,679
you'd come across a cluster of islands, which is basically

827
00:39:25,679 --> 00:39:28,920
you're into Antarctica. Now it's in the southern Southern Ocean,

828
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:32,920
and you'll literally rically reached the point where or almost

829
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,119
in the Antarctic orders, and there's launch.

830
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: Sorry I was gonna say, what a dodgy colonial saw

831
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,239
of plame that so way way past Port Stanley. Then

832
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,159
they're like, oh, we're having these too, you know, And

833
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:47,400
I'm a big I think we did great stuff with colonies,

834
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,440
and we did lots of good laws, ed edgew macation

835
00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:52,360
around the world, all sorts of stuff. So I think

836
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,400
we did great stuff. But I mean this is a

837
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,679
big tenuous isn't it. Look at these tiny islands. I

838
00:39:56,679 --> 00:39:59,480
mean the Germans named names sort of thought, and then

839
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,719
the British in the usual way. Look at us. Look

840
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,119
at our navy boushes were stemaling it. We'll have those

841
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,360
right down, and we're called them the Falken Islands, linked

842
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,880
to the Falken Diands, but they're not really They're miles away.

843
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,760
So I don't know if Neil you made that any bigger,

844
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,239
and I might do things wrong in the studio.

845
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: You know, that's the biggest sight.

846
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 6: Brobably edit and zoom in on that, right.

847
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 4: I find it very interesting that the Nazis chose to

848
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,039
call they give the island this name because Thue Island,

849
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:27,239
as you said, was connected to Duell Society for ill

850
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,599
rial energy, and they cult the Nazier cult beliefs. But

851
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:35,679
they decided to call it fuel Southern, and they decided

852
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:37,320
to call these islands on the other side of the

853
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,079
world Southern Fuel.

854
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,119
Speaker 1: Yes, in the North Atlantic.

855
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,039
Speaker 4: Yes, there is a Fuel Island and there's a dual society.

856
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:51,039
This indicates that there was a lot of very very

857
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,079
they thought they must consider these islands very important to

858
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,920
call it Southern Thuel. The Nazis must have considered it

859
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,119
a very important island. And there's two islands in this

860
00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:04,639
this thoo Liland and Cook Island. But they're basically and

861
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:06,960
there's Belling Rs and Belling Scores and island as well,

862
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,880
but basically it's called Southern Fuel this or trio of

863
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,760
islands at the end of the South Sandwich Archipelago.

864
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and ben I'll just thank you for that. I'll

865
00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:19,679
just say this. Then Andrew or Nilkin come in, but

866
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:21,559
I'll just say this. And also this is what made

867
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:24,480
it ludicrous to me as a what a ten year

868
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,920
old in night yet ten right?

869
00:41:26,039 --> 00:41:26,119
Speaker 5: Right?

870
00:41:26,159 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

871
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,639
Speaker 1: Nice eighty one the war the war started. I mean,

872
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,760
you know, I've got other images here of the Sun

873
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,639
newspaper which you might have seen, or Benzi where it's

874
00:41:33,679 --> 00:41:35,800
just gotcha. We had this thing in the first when

875
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,400
we sank, I mean just a sick, a very sick

876
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:42,000
sort of headline because lots of Argentina people died on

877
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:44,800
this Belgrano battleship. I think it was that, but they

878
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,039
were like, gotcha. In other words, we got the battleship,

879
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:49,199
but it was trying to head away thatcher. I mean,

880
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,559
we can go into here. I mean I learned more

881
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:54,800
about Exocet missiles and torpedoes in the last few years

882
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,480
and I wanted to know. I really didn't care, but

883
00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:00,000
so so. But what's interesting is we set this whole

884
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:03,559
who are who are war off? Essentially? You know, as

885
00:42:03,559 --> 00:42:06,000
well as Port Stanley, which had fair enough, it had

886
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,400
some Britain's and I'm all for defending British people. I

887
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,880
don't care where they are in the world. If you've

888
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,480
got a British settlement, to be honest, if that's been

889
00:42:12,639 --> 00:42:15,199
historically part of the British settlement, then yeah, I f

890
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,079
off I leave them alone and stuff.

891
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: So I get that.

892
00:42:18,159 --> 00:42:20,199
Speaker 1: But you get down to these islands, it gets a

893
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:23,000
bit weird because you're basically sailing all these soldiers down

894
00:42:23,039 --> 00:42:25,960
to defend a bit of rock. But it's not it's

895
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,440
not about the bit of rock. It's it's about what

896
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,119
was going on that made it, especially if you take

897
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:33,320
the Freedom Information documents that I can show you in

898
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,880
a minute, that end up going They end up saying, well,

899
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:39,639
my God's right. So the war finished in Port Stanley

900
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,679
and all the headline news in America, sorry, in Britain,

901
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,440
the whole wind down happens. And then I noticed I

902
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,880
was like, hang on, look at the dates the wharf.

903
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,920
That the final bits of the agreement of the war.

904
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,039
And it was a bit like World War two. It's

905
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:54,000
never it wasn't a final war finish.

906
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 4: It wasn't.

907
00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:57,119
Speaker 1: So it's clever, just like in World War two? Do

908
00:42:57,159 --> 00:42:58,760
you I mean you all know the war World War

909
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,119
two never finished. I mean there were no assure sort of.

910
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:03,840
And again I'm confused. Is it a ceasefire documents? There's

911
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,760
another term for it, but there's a way of finishing.

912
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,079
Speaker 4: Here's no formal surrendering. Not with Japan. That it's strandity

913
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:12,960
because it was just assumed that Hitler was captured or killed,

914
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,440
that was killed at the end, and he wasn't. But

915
00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:16,159
that's that's another party.

916
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,039
Speaker 1: Are you saying that's the reason why they didn't World

917
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:21,719
War two? They didn't do a full end and full

918
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,440
official ending.

919
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 4: Are you saying that I got to do with Germany

920
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,079
never surrendered? No, they never surrendered. They were, yeah, that

921
00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:30,039
was killed, and that was supposedly the end. But Hitler

922
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,719
wasn't killed. He wasn't he escaped, so it was technically

923
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,840
World War two never ended.

924
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,639
Speaker 7: You point out that I claimed that wasn't it claimed

925
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:40,920
that Admiral Durnets signed the surrender for Germany.

926
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:44,519
Speaker 4: They thought, no, he he, I can't remember. I can't,

927
00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:46,239
I can't remember the whole I know there was a

928
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:48,960
surrendered with Japan. They actually did. They signed the document

929
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:50,559
saying surrender and that was the end.

930
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: Of the war.

931
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,119
Speaker 4: But I pointed, you know, I agree with David about

932
00:43:54,119 --> 00:43:56,639
the jingoism and stuff, because I mean, I do think

933
00:43:56,679 --> 00:44:01,079
that obviously Falkland is the British overseas territory, always has,

934
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:03,639
you know, there's no legitimate claim by Argentina, and even

935
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:07,119
now now have even today Havier Mille has admitted this essentially,

936
00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:10,400
and I have there's a and so I mean, even

937
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,559
though you may you could say it was justified to

938
00:44:12,559 --> 00:44:14,920
to recapture the islands, the jingoism and the kind of

939
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,480
like the war pigs and the battle drums really were

940
00:44:18,519 --> 00:44:21,159
completely over the top. And when you consider that the

941
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,400
General Belgebrano Sinking accounted fourth. I think it was three

942
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:25,639
hundred sailors drowned.

943
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: Rageous.

944
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,679
Speaker 4: Really, that counts for the third of the entire casualties

945
00:44:30,679 --> 00:44:34,400
of that war was in that Winey engagement. And that's

946
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,559
and I should say that I have a personal reason

947
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,519
for feeding this way because I used to have I

948
00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:42,039
used to have a girlfriend called Rosalin and her brother

949
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,440
was on board r F A Sigalahad. And this was

950
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,599
a ship that won the ships that the Argentina has.

951
00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:50,840
A British ship that's hit it was It was a

952
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,239
Royal beat auxiliary ship hit by one of the extra

953
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,400
set missiles, blew up and killed lots of people. And

954
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,440
his brother had her brother so ross ross. His brother

955
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,159
had scars is his face and his hands were like

956
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,119
covered in scars from the burns he received. Burns.

957
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: Torpedoes, took torpedoes, exo sets, torpedoes. If you're if you're

958
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,039
in if you're in a contained area, I learned all

959
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:16,519
this in the Falklands. But if you're in a contained

960
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:19,400
area in a ship, the problem is that the torpedoes explode,

961
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,559
and you think were like a bomb in Vietnam, they're

962
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:23,639
like ball. They go everywhere. They have nowhere to go,

963
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,320
they're surrounded by a ship's hull. And so if you're

964
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,840
part of that, even if your few falls up, my god,

965
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,320
you're in for a world. Have heard so so and

966
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,239
the Ben's Ben's mentioned the exo sets, Well, there's a

967
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,679
whole other story to that, which I've covered in some talks.

968
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,239
That's fascinating because missus Thatcher, this is all to do

969
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,400
with the fact that the exo sets, which your French maid,

970
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,800
had a special switch off code designed for if they

971
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,320
were ever stolen. So if someone came, someone came across

972
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,000
and sorry someone that let's say an except fired by

973
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:54,239
that were cried by the French, and then they couldn't

974
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:56,360
sorry it didn't fire. It was what they call a

975
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:01,599
dumb bomb, or someone raised a French unitions depotgo. They

976
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:06,079
had probably some of the first probably GPS based switched off,

977
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,880
so they could basically, if you knit a French exerceet missile,

978
00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:13,599
they could they could actually fire out some frequency, some

979
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,599
some code and switch off that bomb.

980
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:16,119
Speaker 4: Right.

981
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: Thatcher was really pissed off because what the French, the

982
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,119
sneaky bastards is again they I mean, they sell us

983
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,159
French fries, but they're still so greedious that they then

984
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,039
want to sell bombs everywhere as well, So they sold

985
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,559
under the counter. They sold exercise to Argentina. Thatcher was furious.

986
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:33,440
She goes, you've sold these to them. They've taken down,

987
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:35,320
Ben dead right, they've turned down I think it was

988
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:36,599
Galahads was that by be?

989
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 4: It was three ships here, I mean Argie teams that

990
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,000
seen three pretty ships.

991
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,119
Speaker 1: Well yeah, chev all right, you know more than me.

992
00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:48,000
Aby said, okay, but I learned you David, No, no, no,

993
00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:49,880
I didn't know. But but the bit that I did

994
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,880
do and the bit that I read President Metron's biography.

995
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,599
Can you imagine how bored I gotta be for that

996
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:57,679
to read present metros greed right, So but what I

997
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,559
found out in there is that that Scher had, I mean,

998
00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:03,440
she'd actually said, I, you know, you better give us

999
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,440
the switch off codes for these exer sets that are

1000
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,000
taking out British ships or and this is the funny

1001
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,079
bit I find hilarious, and I mentioned this at the

1002
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:12,960
talk at UFO Academy that Ben was that that so

1003
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:15,480
of course that she didn't she didn't then threaten to

1004
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:18,440
nuke France because that's their exercise that she wants the

1005
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,199
codes from the French military hierarchy to stop these missiles

1006
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,199
that have been sold to Argentina then damaging or killing

1007
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:29,039
ships and personnel. She basically said, and if you don't

1008
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:31,960
get I mean it's hilarious. There's that. If you don't

1009
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,360
give me so I laugh now, but it is disgusting

1010
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,400
because there were deaths around this. If you don't give

1011
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:39,440
these switch off goes, I'm gonna New and this is true,

1012
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:42,679
I'm going to New Guargentina. So she's she was actually

1013
00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:47,639
prepared to New Guargentina to actually, yeah, in her in

1014
00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:51,039
her head, to stop this whole process going on based

1015
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:53,760
on the Exo set missiles and so so there's all

1016
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,800
these but my point here is exo sets. You know

1017
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,840
this little island. Did the Argentineans know this basalve was

1018
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,840
set up? To me, there's the cos and I'll shut

1019
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:10,519
up after this. There's a cos going on, and to

1020
00:48:10,599 --> 00:48:14,320
me whether there's too much going on. There's too much

1021
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,440
going on for it to be about a few sheep

1022
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,400
in a rock and we want to oil rise and

1023
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,239
our fishing rice around here. And because they were remember,

1024
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,199
like Ben said, there were no people on this South

1025
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,719
Sandwich islands. They were all well far I think a

1026
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,880
thousand kilometers north. So you got to ask yourself what

1027
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,480
was going on. And here's my take. Here's my take

1028
00:48:31,519 --> 00:48:36,519
on this that uh, these eties had asked permission because

1029
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:39,119
it was close that etes view, this is a logical

1030
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:41,639
way of doing this. So these eaties that linked to

1031
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:45,400
alcyules that he knew all about, they basically have been

1032
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,719
working on trying to stop this. Far more damaging than

1033
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,280
an exer set this this nano solution that's around that

1034
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,639
we then see happening. Props in the ben can talk

1035
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:57,639
on the the Gulf oil sel with BP, but there's

1036
00:48:57,679 --> 00:48:59,480
many I mean, and do you know at the time

1037
00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:01,760
I didn't even by that. Then then if someone sent

1038
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,599
me only a couple of months ago, that's the But

1039
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:08,239
in in past off Louisiana on the coast, people had

1040
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,239
their whole holes and the engines eaten into by this

1041
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,760
black goo stuff, right, and the whole response with Sutherns

1042
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,159
called correctsis when this thing, you know, the idea is

1043
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,559
a leak of this stuff that was in the Falklands

1044
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:24,079
that hammed around this BP oil spill because they were

1045
00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:26,920
drilling perhaps for that accidentally they got this black goo

1046
00:49:27,159 --> 00:49:29,679
or there after the black goo. Again, if you go

1047
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,880
back at my torks, it makes a bit more sense.

1048
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,440
But here's my tay that in nineteen seventy six the

1049
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,719
agreement with ETS were that then as a cover for

1050
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,440
the ETS then having and I don't forget, they had

1051
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,960
a base that was under sea, so they had labs

1052
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,760
that have been there since World War One or before

1053
00:49:47,079 --> 00:49:51,000
to try and de engineer why because the main point

1054
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:54,360
about this sentient nano or black goo thing is it

1055
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,199
needs to be kept cold to remain dormant and not

1056
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,679
get activated. Which Ben will go off and tell you

1057
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,519
about what happened on a submarine, you know the submarine

1058
00:50:01,559 --> 00:50:05,119
story bend that happens to Yeah, all right, yeah, so

1059
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,159
let's leave it. Let's see yeah, well let's leave it

1060
00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:10,599
for a minute. But so my taking yeah yeah yeah,

1061
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:12,559
but I meand be good if you could go through that.

1062
00:50:12,639 --> 00:50:16,480
But so essentially what happens is, I uh, the rumors

1063
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,239
are that these blue ets linked to the key we

1064
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,519
ant had to ask had had basically been said, because

1065
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:24,840
we're doing this stuff, but can you help us sort

1066
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,039
of make it look legitimate? We've asked, So they asked

1067
00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:29,960
permission which if you go to contact liature ets always

1068
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,840
they don't tend to do a lot of dodgy. They're

1069
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,599
all that they will the aged with governments and power structures.

1070
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,639
If if it suits, then uh narrative it suits, there

1071
00:50:38,639 --> 00:50:41,280
their way forward. And and I think they've asked the

1072
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,719
artistic governments, and hence they sent out a set up

1073
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,920
a weather stage okay, a weather station to cover up

1074
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,719
the fact that these ets were probably flying in in

1075
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,960
sources probably invisible to the human eye, to carry on

1076
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,039
de engineering and trying to say and they're trying to

1077
00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:58,360
save our lives on this on this earth, because this

1078
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,320
stuff is dodgy f dot if it gets going. So

1079
00:51:02,599 --> 00:51:05,000
and I think the problem is that the British should

1080
00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:07,760
rule the waves, you know, you know, always thought that

1081
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,760
they were top dog and got information. And another interesting

1082
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,159
way is how Americas stayed out of this. It's fascinating.

1083
00:51:14,199 --> 00:51:16,559
I've done a whole article on how the Americans stayed

1084
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:18,719
out of this thing and let the British do for

1085
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,679
the first time, let the British do their own thing.

1086
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:26,000
So I think that the these eats said, we've got

1087
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,960
our base, we're trying to help you, and the engineered

1088
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,519
this very dodgy substance. So they put up this weather

1089
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:33,920
thing that you've just seen of the British were we're

1090
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,760
having some of that. We want it because what you

1091
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,880
find out later, which I don't know if we're even

1092
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,639
going to get into in this interview, what you find

1093
00:51:39,639 --> 00:51:42,239
out late is what happened at Marconi where they they

1094
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,039
the British get this stuff, take it back, and as

1095
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:48,679
they tried to interface with it using radio waves and

1096
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,480
and and quotes I've got from a person that worked there,

1097
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:54,960
all sorts of stuff. Then it gets very crazy and

1098
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,119
the British weren't prepared for it. But you've got this

1099
00:51:57,159 --> 00:51:59,840
whole thing to do with Britain Argentina. So in the

1100
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:03,079
in the in the in the tabloid newspapers in the

1101
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:06,239
eighties we saw as a playoff, Oh my god, you know,

1102
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:08,719
is to do with fishing rights or is to do

1103
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,079
with you know, how dare they come and just take

1104
00:52:11,159 --> 00:52:14,119
a bit of rockland a ludicrous right wars a bit

1105
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,480
thought over for stupid things for it, but not this

1106
00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:19,760
stupid You don't fight a whole war over a lump

1107
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,559
of rock around There's something else going on, And I

1108
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:24,760
think that was it. And then it expands out when

1109
00:52:25,199 --> 00:52:29,039
the British, as Ben said, they sending special forces commandos whoever,

1110
00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:32,599
they raid this space and they get hold of this

1111
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,119
sentient nanisubstance. Because what happens is the etes leave and

1112
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,079
they go somewhere else, which I'll tell you about. That's

1113
00:52:38,079 --> 00:52:40,559
whole another thing. But then it goes back to Marconi

1114
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:42,840
England and all hell breaks loose, and then we enter

1115
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,800
another phase of this whole saga. I'll leave it there,

1116
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,000
I mean, anyone someone else.

1117
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:53,639
Speaker 7: So let's to kind of like clarify where did the

1118
00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:57,199
black goo? Where's the current thinking? Where did the black

1119
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,440
goo come from? Is it only in this one spot

1120
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,920
in the Falklands, Why the Falklands? And who discovered it?

1121
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: Okay, really really good question, and I think that's the

1122
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,960
question that I wish more people would ask that. And

1123
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,679
the answer is, and like much in the UFO fields,

1124
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,760
and of course many of us in this area get

1125
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,599
we sort of get panned for going well, you know,

1126
00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:19,440
I mean, I've got my own contact stuff going on.

1127
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,039
But when I say, well, I don't know who's in

1128
00:53:21,079 --> 00:53:23,440
these ships, I've got forties all this stuff, and people

1129
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,760
get annoyed and it's the same with this area. It's

1130
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,679
just like well, to an extent, well, what we got's going.

1131
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:34,079
We've got Alec nuil To who genetically and again bear

1132
00:53:34,159 --> 00:53:36,599
with me, was part of this group, right and be

1133
00:53:36,639 --> 00:53:38,800
put down on a planet probably to deal with this

1134
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,679
sort of area, but also much more after that, which

1135
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:43,360
I can go into, to do with a guy called

1136
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,400
Bruce Kathy who's a frequency expert, to do with nuclear

1137
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,039
bombs and our nukes reel all this other stuff. So

1138
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,079
Alec had this role to do, but most of it

1139
00:53:52,159 --> 00:53:55,519
was to do with this group that will related to

1140
00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:00,119
him and regards southern though, and what they says, So

1141
00:54:00,159 --> 00:54:03,280
what is ET said they said is and again this

1142
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,360
planet is human history is probably one hundred thousand years old,

1143
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,119
maybe two hundred thousand, right, that's by the sort of

1144
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:15,400
US sentient beings walking around making campfires and making civilizations. Right,

1145
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,039
but go back we all know, I mean they've found

1146
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:22,519
gold watches buried, and intricate circuit boards and weird things

1147
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:25,679
found in coal fields, and so we know that many

1148
00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:29,039
things have gone in before this. Their rationale was that

1149
00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:34,519
what happens is an eating malevolent and again I don't

1150
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:37,519
know et group came to try and take over the Earth,

1151
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,159
you know, and again look at ten thousand a d

1152
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,280
with the ice ages. Lots of shit went down there.

1153
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,480
There were lots of bowels for stuff we were going on.

1154
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,960
If you look into this whole history, so what it

1155
00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:50,239
seems that an eaty group came to try and dominate

1156
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,559
the Earth and take it over, didn't quite manage it

1157
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:54,920
and got kicked off. I mean, and again look into

1158
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,920
all the Vedic records and stuff. There's all these bowels

1159
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,480
going on with ships and stuff. They didn't quite manager

1160
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:02,719
They got told to piss off. But craft of these

1161
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,920
crafty et buggers, they what do they do? They're like, right,

1162
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,039
you've been us this time and this is classic Star

1163
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:08,559
Wars stuff.

1164
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 4: Right.

1165
00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:11,679
Speaker 1: What they did is they went embedded a very high

1166
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,760
tech this substance in the in the Earth that was

1167
00:55:16,039 --> 00:55:18,679
then a radio control that once they were off the

1168
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:23,800
planet shunt their enemy group then couldn't take over the

1169
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,880
planet if they wanted to. They could flick a switch

1170
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,360
and they could activate this stuff. This is not like

1171
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,559
a nuclear bomb. This is something that gradually then interesting.

1172
00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:34,519
Think of more gelons and think of kem trails. Right,

1173
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:36,880
they could flick a switch and it gradually invades the

1174
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,719
human species. Where I tell you, kem trails in my spirits,

1175
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,559
I've read all the stuff from that maybe doing that.

1176
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,840
So so the danger was that if this let's say,

1177
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,239
even if this alien group who'd planted this stuff deep

1178
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,960
in the ocean floor to keep it cool, because then

1179
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,079
it's not activated. Right, important point let's say that this

1180
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:57,920
group then disappeared. The point is this stuff's still a danger.

1181
00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:00,639
What if climate change? Climate change is true and then

1182
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,239
this begin this stuff and these these friends of Alex

1183
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,800
said no, this stuff isn't stable. We need to try

1184
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,320
and we need try and neutralize it. And that was

1185
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,039
their goal. They were doing this for us and for

1186
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:14,239
future species on this earth. So if we don't know

1187
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,400
where it came from, but it's it does seem that

1188
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,000
a rogue eating group came tried to take as a

1189
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,199
planet and then they bury this stuff as a sort

1190
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,559
of dead man's trigger, you know what I mean, a

1191
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:25,159
dead man's trigger to basically, Yeah, so that's the idea.

1192
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:27,840
And again, apart from that, I don't know. My alik

1193
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:29,519
Or might say much more if you asked him. I

1194
00:56:29,559 --> 00:56:31,239
don't know. That's my take on it.

1195
00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:35,119
Speaker 7: And it gets e gets even worse because allegedly within

1196
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:40,119
the COVID vaccines, we've got this black material that conglomerates

1197
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,719
called graphene, and there's all sorts of theories about whether

1198
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,400
five G or six G will start controlling these graphine

1199
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,679
molecules in people.

1200
00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: I think frequence is are crucial. I don't know about graphene,

1201
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,400
but I'm sure frequence is a crucial.

1202
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 7: Down back to the Falklands, winding it back to nineteen

1203
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,239
eighty one, who are we saying that with this particular

1204
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,440
base that you showed with the red building, you're saying

1205
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,599
that the Argentine and Argentinians found this material? Or have

1206
00:57:11,679 --> 00:57:14,599
they or have people have humans known this for ages

1207
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,960
and you know, and they kept it quiet? Or have

1208
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,039
they only just discovered it and then set a base

1209
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:21,559
there and then and if you're if I getting this right,

1210
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:23,719
the British then got wind of this and then we

1211
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,480
decided to kind of like go in and kind of

1212
00:57:26,519 --> 00:57:27,679
take it over and bring it back.

1213
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,519
Speaker 1: Is that kind of that is the I know, I mean,

1214
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:31,400
and really good points and I wish I wish years

1215
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,239
ago someone of that asked me those points about this,

1216
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,760
because that the more you get doack. The point is,

1217
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:37,800
you know, instead of people going off and going on

1218
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,559
about the blackgoop and what they think is, I'd rather

1219
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:42,079
people ask questions like that and stuff and the course

1220
00:57:42,119 --> 00:57:44,719
it's not you know, it's not me answering. It's Alec

1221
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,239
Nult who met these He went on the planet and

1222
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:49,760
met these groups, right, has written a huge parts on

1223
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,440
this and he goes into some of this. So I

1224
00:57:53,320 --> 00:58:00,840
literally think that the essentially the that this the British

1225
00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:03,280
can think, You've got to think how do that? You know?

1226
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,679
And it comes down to things like the Five Eyes network,

1227
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,559
you know, and stuff like the Five Eyes networks? How

1228
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,280
does this operate? You know, the British have got to

1229
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,159
use it. We're used to having their nose in everywhere

1230
00:58:12,159 --> 00:58:14,599
with colonialism, right and all this sort of stuff. But

1231
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,280
you know, in a way because of you know, and

1232
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,400
I don't know the British for colonialism and don't not

1233
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,159
in some of their wars, but you know, Argentina, in

1234
00:58:22,199 --> 00:58:24,920
a way what the ets sided with them, and so

1235
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,239
I think that in a way they they were like,

1236
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,960
look they so they told more truth to them about

1237
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,239
what they were doing, and they go look, look, you know,

1238
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,880
because if you if if a group of vts approached

1239
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,639
the whoever was in government at the time in the

1240
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:41,760
say the nineteen seventy six the ben mentioned operating keyole,

1241
00:58:42,239 --> 00:58:45,280
if they'd mentioned that and says, well, look, look we're

1242
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,199
here we de engineering. It's really dangerous to your population,

1243
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,559
your Earth population. We've got to try and de engineer

1244
00:58:51,559 --> 00:58:53,920
this stuff because otherwise it could in the way that

1245
00:58:54,039 --> 00:58:56,760
narotech does, you know, go and do some resources narw tech.

1246
00:58:57,199 --> 00:58:59,920
If he's not controlled, if he's given the wrong frequency,

1247
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:04,079
stimulus rolls out and amplifies itself and affects it is

1248
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:08,239
I mean, this is x files territory. So but what

1249
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,840
I think happened is that they dealt with the arm

1250
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,559
Chee government, who a bit more gentle than the British

1251
00:59:12,639 --> 00:59:14,639
in a way. So they're like, yeah, you come along,

1252
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,559
and you said to your base, will use it as

1253
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:17,239
a diversion.

1254
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 4: Uh.

1255
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: And maybe then perhaps if you again think when you

1256
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,039
shut this southerns down, maybe what perhaps this this amazing

1257
00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:26,599
substance that you've shut down, because all we know this

1258
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,880
all sci fi, right, sci fi is actually political truth

1259
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,199
and uh. And so if if you find that something

1260
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,559
is useful from this substance, anything that's dangerous is a

1261
00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:39,440
threat also probably has benefits as we finally, the black

1262
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,559
good you'll we find goes into hospitals and create and

1263
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:46,760
manage you to do this. And I and if we

1264
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,000
talk again, you'll find out how I found documents on

1265
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,599
the hidden past of the Marconi Veterans group of their

1266
00:59:54,639 --> 00:59:57,440
magazine where they go on about how they basically they

1267
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,840
set up a whole what they call a clean sphere

1268
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:03,679
to deal with astonishing small type of substance that had

1269
01:00:03,719 --> 01:00:06,440
an intelligence stability. Right, so all this is hidden stuff.

1270
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,760
So I think Argentina did a deal and said, yeah,

1271
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,239
fair enough. The problem is the British, in our own arrogance,

1272
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,159
in our own old colonial ways, were like f off right,

1273
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:17,119
f off Argentina and f off whoever these that I

1274
01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:19,320
think they knew about these et groups. We're coming down

1275
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,800
and we're going to take this stuff. And they and

1276
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,360
they did, and so there was a battle off between

1277
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,519
the two. I think the Argentinas were happy to let it,

1278
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:28,480
let it, let it, to let it run, leave these ets,

1279
01:00:28,519 --> 01:00:31,159
to de engineer this substance and to use their base

1280
01:00:31,519 --> 01:00:33,840
as a sort of decoy for this. But the British,

1281
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,800
because it was also prossly because it wasn't quote owned

1282
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,559
British territory, but also because they the British had rumors

1283
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:42,960
about what was going on. They then went in and

1284
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,519
they steamed in, and what we saw in the Falklands

1285
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,519
was ninety nine percent to do with this substance and

1286
01:00:48,679 --> 01:00:50,719
one percent to do with the other ship that we

1287
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,280
saw to do with ethanoles.

1288
01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 4: But the way I say the scenario as I see

1289
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,960
it is that obviously sometime in the early twentieth century

1290
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,000
people discovered there was a there was a sentient oil

1291
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:03,760
deposit on Southern Field, probably the Nazis because because they

1292
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,280
did in that in fact have there were several expeditions

1293
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:12,000
into the German Antarctic Expedition and things like that. Now,

1294
01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:17,559
what happened was that that Argentina invaded the Folkland Island

1295
01:01:17,559 --> 01:01:20,760
dependencies because they knew that strategically, once they had control

1296
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,559
of that territory, then basically the South Sandwich Islands were theirs.

1297
01:01:25,719 --> 01:01:27,960
They already put up an illegal base in nineteen seventy

1298
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,360
six on the island. They already had an illegal They

1299
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,639
basically had a basically squatting on the island from nineteen

1300
01:01:34,679 --> 01:01:37,679
seventy six onwards because of that deposit that was there,

1301
01:01:37,719 --> 01:01:39,519
because there was a cave, there was a there was

1302
01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:41,000
like it wasn't it wasn't. I don't think it was

1303
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,039
an artificial mine. I think it was some kind of cave,

1304
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,800
if I remember rightly. So, because I did read alec

1305
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,239
Alex's book about this, and there was where you can

1306
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,320
have you can actually access the deposit of black goop

1307
01:01:52,519 --> 01:01:54,719
and and go back at the sentient oil is actually

1308
01:01:54,719 --> 01:01:57,119
all over the planet, in various places all over the.

1309
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: That's that's sorry that yeah, that's your point that that's

1310
01:01:59,719 --> 01:02:03,280
that's that Andy mentioned that I didn't say that it

1311
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,400
isn't just here, that it collects in these sort of

1312
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,920
colder seawaters. So, and there are deposits because of course,

1313
01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:12,599
think about it. If you're planted, let's let's see, it's

1314
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,679
some sort of time bomb. Yeah, if you're an alien

1315
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,519
race that got kicked off because you tried to take

1316
01:02:17,559 --> 01:02:19,320
over the Earth and then you got booted off by

1317
01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:24,199
esoteric forces from Vedic in India or whoever, we don't know,

1318
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,119
then the point is you're not going to just do

1319
01:02:26,199 --> 01:02:27,840
it one place, You're going to do it all over,

1320
01:02:28,679 --> 01:02:30,920
which then comes into something to do with also the

1321
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,599
Antette We found antennas and the great world of China

1322
01:02:33,639 --> 01:02:36,320
that are actually there, and they dug out that that

1323
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,440
we think we're to do with triggering this this stuff.

1324
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,599
So so yeah, Ben's right, they were. It was planted

1325
01:02:41,079 --> 01:02:41,840
all over a planet.

1326
01:02:42,159 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was. It may have been planting

1327
01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:45,760
specific areas for strategic purposes, like you said, but I

1328
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,360
mean what a was the the UK, our own country,

1329
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,719
decided that because Argentina had done this, they decided to

1330
01:02:51,719 --> 01:02:54,000
go and recapture the islands, not because they really particularly

1331
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:56,280
cared about this overseas territory, and we would know they're

1332
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,079
just selling all these things off anyway. They've just got

1333
01:02:58,199 --> 01:03:01,760
rid of you know, they've the territory in the Maldives.

1334
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,320
They don't care about that. They don't care about the

1335
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,360
rights to folkland island people who are primarily British descent.

1336
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,920
They did it because they wanted to stop Argentina accessing

1337
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,239
this deposit on southern fuel. And it's and I mean

1338
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,119
I say this as I said, it's a personal issue

1339
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:19,000
here because my ex partner, her brother was injured for

1340
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:21,920
life and scarred for life, a bit like Simon Western.

1341
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,440
You know, the guy who was also on that ship.

1342
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:27,280
He was scarred for life by this war by Argentina,

1343
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,280
by an Argentinian missile. Argentine missile. So I have a

1344
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,840
personal I have a personal even it was a long

1345
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,159
time ago, I have a personal. This is a personal

1346
01:03:35,199 --> 01:03:38,239
issue for me too. And then of course the next stage,

1347
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,639
of course, once once they had control of that deposit,

1348
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,599
they started extracting the David will tell the story. They

1349
01:03:43,599 --> 01:03:46,800
started extracting the material and returning it to the laboratory

1350
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,519
studies in the UK. But I'll let it take you

1351
01:03:48,519 --> 01:03:52,079
to tell that story.

1352
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,199
Speaker 1: I mean, Neil Andrew, do you want to come in

1353
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,519
just because we're now we're now in the early so

1354
01:03:56,599 --> 01:03:59,480
this is the early lift off phase. I mean the

1355
01:03:59,559 --> 01:04:02,480
lift off so we've dealt with the foreklons. But then

1356
01:04:02,719 --> 01:04:05,199
then then, I mean there's several tangents from there. But

1357
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,639
if you want to keep it simple, essentially what happens

1358
01:04:07,719 --> 01:04:13,440
is the British uh yuke or whatever Metapolphy and nuke

1359
01:04:13,559 --> 01:04:16,360
that base as you've seen on the Falklands. And again

1360
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,760
remember I've got Foyer documents from Q gardens that and

1361
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,000
if I show you these, you'll see where bizarrely you know,

1362
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:26,639
when there's a whole war going on there, suddenly they're going, well,

1363
01:04:26,639 --> 01:04:28,920
we haven't quite got recent agreement with this, and there's that.

1364
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,679
I couldn't find agreements on anything to do with sudden though.

1365
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,760
But if you go to Paul Stanley and the main Falklands,

1366
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,280
then there's all sorts of wind down deals see with

1367
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,760
the war logistics and this and that, but nothing on

1368
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,320
this and it stank like high heaven and and anyway.

1369
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,239
So that's that's that's that's it. But from there, essentially

1370
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,679
what happens is the special Forces come in take a

1371
01:04:49,719 --> 01:04:52,519
sample of this stuff, and they take it back and

1372
01:04:52,559 --> 01:04:54,320
they're like, who can we give it to in Britain?

1373
01:04:54,519 --> 01:04:57,599
You know, and and again interesting America, who that these

1374
01:04:57,639 --> 01:05:01,119
fuckers normally take over everything. No, this time what happens

1375
01:05:01,199 --> 01:05:03,079
is it goes back and they go to the one

1376
01:05:03,159 --> 01:05:07,360
company in that era that's still fairly big. You know,

1377
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,199
there's a lot of stuff got a good history, which

1378
01:05:09,239 --> 01:05:11,480
is Marconi in Britain that had by then wanted to

1379
01:05:11,519 --> 01:05:17,199
do it about five different scientific and factory production bases

1380
01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:20,400
and so so so then they take this back and

1381
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,440
they go here deal with it. And they knew a

1382
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,480
little bit about it, and I can shed a lot

1383
01:05:24,519 --> 01:05:26,960
of lights when most people can't shed light on what

1384
01:05:27,039 --> 01:05:30,039
hand of Marconi because it all links back to South

1385
01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:34,719
African intelligence again complex South African intelligence agents and also

1386
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,519
to do with some workers there that have that chatted

1387
01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:41,400
to Alec yu Olden basically made and discussed what happened.

1388
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,719
And it's astonishing if you think you bring an alien

1389
01:05:43,719 --> 01:05:47,320
substance back to a normal electronics company, no matter how

1390
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,719
it balanced. They are imagine this shit, it's alien way

1391
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,360
out and they try and then tame it and it

1392
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,280
doesn't quite work and there's a fallout. My theory is

1393
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,440
the fallout is the deaths that hamm in Marconi and

1394
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,400
how they dealt with it is another then layer. How

1395
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,119
they dealt with it is another layer. So you know,

1396
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,039
if you want to cover that next time, I don't know.

1397
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:08,719
We've done a good background, but it's your collineal on

1398
01:06:08,719 --> 01:06:09,000
this too.

1399
01:06:09,039 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 4: I think we can helporate.

1400
01:06:10,039 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 5: Do you want to take a little break, just for

1401
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,960
five minutes to use the lou grab a cup of

1402
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:29,599
tea or coffee. Hi, welcome back to the Paranormal peep Show.

1403
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,480
This is David Griffin. We're into talking to David Griffin

1404
01:06:33,599 --> 01:06:37,360
about the Marconi and the Black Girl and the Falkland Islons.

1405
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,760
Just to recap what is the Falkland Islands and why

1406
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,679
is it important? Well, the Falkland Islands was still owned

1407
01:06:43,679 --> 01:06:45,519
by the British. Actually it's a group of islands down

1408
01:06:45,559 --> 01:06:49,360
in the South Atlantic and the Malvinas as they were

1409
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,199
called by the Argentinians. They were trying to take them

1410
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,840
in nineteen eighty two, I think it's January or February

1411
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,920
nineteen eighty two, and Margaret Thatcher, the then Prime Minister,

1412
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,800
sent a task force of so many ships down there

1413
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,400
to try and recatch them, which they did do over

1414
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,639
a six week period. I think it ended in March

1415
01:07:06,679 --> 01:07:10,119
of nineteen eighty two. I have a personal connection. I

1416
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:12,920
have a personal connection to it because at that time

1417
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,559
I was working for a company that dealt with the

1418
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,559
entertainment and the education of the military forces, that was

1419
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:22,360
the Navy, Army and Air Force. And I worked for

1420
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,880
a company called SSVC, the Services Sound and Vision Corporation,

1421
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,320
and they had a vision and a newly acquired division

1422
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:33,039
called b FBS which is British Forces Broadcasting Service and

1423
01:07:33,079 --> 01:07:35,159
so as part of my job at the time, and

1424
01:07:35,239 --> 01:07:37,480
I was seventeen, so I think I'm the oldest one here.

1425
01:07:37,519 --> 01:07:38,199
Speaker 4: I put my own up.

1426
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,239
Speaker 5: I'm an Altby. I was seventeen at the time. As

1427
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,039
my first job basically, and I was helping send videos

1428
01:07:45,079 --> 01:07:48,039
and tapes and things down to the Falkland Islands through

1429
01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:51,000
the British Forces Post office network. They've got their own

1430
01:07:51,039 --> 01:07:54,360
post office network and they call it a BFBO, so

1431
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,719
it's British Forces post Office. And because the Falkland Isrons

1432
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,840
were newly acquired now, because they bild in a runway

1433
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,360
in a military base on there, they had to assign

1434
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,239
it something like a postal code and they called it

1435
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,480
a BFPO number, where they gave the Falkland Islands a

1436
01:08:09,519 --> 01:08:12,360
BFPO number. And this is the weird thing, a BFO

1437
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,239
number of six six six, which is kind of spooky

1438
01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:16,640
and weird.

1439
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 6: Isn't that strange?

1440
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 5: So you can mention David in future presentations. And another

1441
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,319
connection I've got with that is that my own father

1442
01:08:26,079 --> 01:08:30,319
who's now passed on, he died back in twenty twenty two.

1443
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,319
Nothing connected with his employment, I don't think. I think

1444
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:36,560
it's more to actually do with the Jimmy Jabbies actually

1445
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:41,600
that might have unfortunately made my father's demise end. But

1446
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:46,000
he worked as a technical illustrator for Marconi. First of all,

1447
01:08:46,039 --> 01:08:48,520
he worked for Marconi Underwater Systems, and then later on

1448
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,840
he was transferred to Marconi Defense Systems. And that was

1449
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,800
at Croxley Green, And I remember going there for a

1450
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,840
walk around. They had an open day for all the

1451
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,760
relatives and friends of the employees, and you could go

1452
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,039
around and walk around their.

1453
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,039
Speaker 6: Whole place and they showed you like you was deal.

1454
01:09:06,119 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: What what year was it?

1455
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,560
Speaker 5: This would have been about nineteen eighty seven, eighty eight,

1456
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:12,960
something like that that I was.

1457
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 6: I went round there with him.

1458
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 5: He previously worked for Martin Baker Aircraft Company who made ejections,

1459
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:20,520
seats and things like that.

1460
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 6: They were based on dead bucks, but because of his.

1461
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 5: Skills were transferable to other defense companies, and it was

1462
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,840
just prior to things coming onto the CAD system computer

1463
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,479
aighted design. He was still don a technical drawing for

1464
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,880
all these sorts of things with a pencil and a

1465
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:37,359
pen and the drawer.

1466
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean you had to be good.

1467
01:09:39,199 --> 01:09:40,680
You had to be good to use a pencil in

1468
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,720
that year before computers. My god.

1469
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:46,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a technically trained artist and I do

1470
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:48,279
artwork myself and things like that, but I would I

1471
01:09:48,279 --> 01:09:49,880
wouldn't aim to be as good as he was in

1472
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,119
that sort of sense. So that's that's my personal connection.

1473
01:09:53,199 --> 01:09:54,920
So now this is where it hots up a little bit,

1474
01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,079
isn't it, David, Because we got this connection where the

1475
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:03,039
mysterious sentiment black goo that was discovered in the Falkland Islands,

1476
01:10:03,079 --> 01:10:03,920
you know, which.

1477
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,119
Speaker 6: Was trying to be being.

1478
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,319
Speaker 5: Switched off, if you like, by these blue alien creatures

1479
01:10:09,359 --> 01:10:12,960
that have now departed the planet. The British have got involved.

1480
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,640
The cover story is the Falklands War with Argentina, but

1481
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,520
they're actually there for another reason, which is to try

1482
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:23,079
and take some of this black go that's sort of

1483
01:10:23,079 --> 01:10:26,920
secreted somewhere deep under the earth in the South Atlantic

1484
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,960
near the Falkland Islands, and the British are now taking

1485
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,000
this stuff back to Britain. So I'll hang it over

1486
01:10:32,039 --> 01:10:32,319
to you.

1487
01:10:33,319 --> 01:10:36,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you make a good point there about, you know,

1488
01:10:36,199 --> 01:10:40,600
about the fact that of course there's almost a cover story,

1489
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,560
so you got the War of the Falklands, but also

1490
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:45,800
you get if you go down in like a micro

1491
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,319
sort of level, or a holographic micro level of this,

1492
01:10:48,399 --> 01:10:52,199
you then get the Southern Fall Island that also plays

1493
01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:55,279
out in this Michigan we haven't got time to cover

1494
01:10:55,319 --> 01:10:57,399
an now, but goes into the Freedom of Information Act

1495
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,960
documents that I found that basically make this whole island

1496
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,399
has become this mad mystery, even though it's only one

1497
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,399
kilometer wide compared to the rest of the Falklands War.

1498
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,520
So all this sort of stuff went on, and it's

1499
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,239
interesting with your background, Neil, of your and your relatives,

1500
01:11:14,279 --> 01:11:17,960
I mean, some of that's fascinating because it's very hard

1501
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:22,399
to find relatives of people that were linked to these

1502
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,199
Marconi deaths that we can go on to discuss perhaps

1503
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,720
next time. It's hard to find people that will talk

1504
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,359
about this, and Joe why because essentially what happened then

1505
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,760
from this Falkland's War is this strange alien sent in

1506
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,880
nano or black goose substance went back to England to Marconi,

1507
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,479
who the highest tech radio. I mean you you just

1508
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,560
mentioned this with your relative. They they covered underwater, the

1509
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:53,479
torpedo intelligence, They were doing satellite and computing. And that's

1510
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,760
a key one because if we go on to do

1511
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,960
a second session of this, you'll find out about a

1512
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:01,359
guy called Victim Or who is the guy. We have

1513
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,199
all the clothes from from inside Marconi where no one

1514
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:07,279
else has this we myself and out you'll have this

1515
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,720
where he talks about what happens when they brought this

1516
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,880
stuff back. So I mean you've got to imagine, you know,

1517
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,640
imagine I'm trying to think of a sort of metaphor

1518
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,920
or something similar to do with like, well, when you

1519
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:21,199
know what happened when the conquistadores went over to you know,

1520
01:12:21,239 --> 01:12:23,680
the sort of the New World and stuff. And I

1521
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,079
mean this is a similar thing that you get an

1522
01:12:26,119 --> 01:12:30,279
alien substance that e T's themselves are on the foot

1523
01:12:30,319 --> 01:12:33,279
are trying to d engineer and again d not engine

1524
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,600
not not make their own d engineer. I quiet it

1525
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,439
down because they knew it's a threat to the human

1526
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:44,199
species itself, and and and this stuff then gets taken

1527
01:12:44,239 --> 01:12:46,880
back and given to what they in a classic British

1528
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,439
sort of arrogant way, they're like, here, we're great, here's Marconi.

1529
01:12:51,319 --> 01:12:55,760
That course has been around since you know, the guy

1530
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,399
Marconi itself actually used I mean he did a lot

1531
01:12:58,399 --> 01:13:02,359
of experience from whales and cornwall and in the early

1532
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,439
days to do with transmissions of telegrams. But since then

1533
01:13:05,119 --> 01:13:08,640
we have about by the time the Falklands take place

1534
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,279
in eighteen ninety eighties, we have about what four or

1535
01:13:11,279 --> 01:13:14,720
five different offices and factories and you know, high tech

1536
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,960
labs dealing with certain things to do with Marconi, which

1537
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:22,960
is mostly defense based radio based. But what's what's interesting

1538
01:13:23,119 --> 01:13:26,359
is just what happens when I mean, and it doesn't

1539
01:13:26,359 --> 01:13:29,680
take long. And this is the fantastic fact, the amazing

1540
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:34,840
point that's you could say, is absolutely intriguing in one way,

1541
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,359
but also it's very difficult if you're a relative of

1542
01:13:37,359 --> 01:13:41,119
one of these twenty three that I've covered, that these

1543
01:13:41,159 --> 01:13:43,560
twenty three people then end up with these bizarre deaths.

1544
01:13:44,119 --> 01:13:48,880
And so suddenly happened when this substance went back to Marconi.

1545
01:13:49,279 --> 01:13:51,199
They tried to deal with it, They found out how

1546
01:13:51,239 --> 01:13:56,239
to engage with it by radio waves, They found a

1547
01:13:56,239 --> 01:13:58,760
way to communicate and activate it, so much so that

1548
01:13:59,199 --> 01:14:01,239
on the first few weeks of it going back to

1549
01:14:01,359 --> 01:14:06,079
Marconi in one particular base or units like you go

1550
01:14:06,079 --> 01:14:08,600
into that Essentially what happened was as they try to

1551
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,199
then get this stuff activated, to communicate with it or

1552
01:14:12,199 --> 01:14:13,920
to do or find out what he could do, it

1553
01:14:14,039 --> 01:14:17,560
started affecting British satellite arrays, you know, and this is

1554
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,800
sort of documented that it affected our satellites. I mean

1555
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,680
really really quite dodgy stuff. I mean we today we

1556
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,199
rely on GPS and all sorts of things for satellites. Well,

1557
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,119
it did this, and I think it's scared so. But

1558
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:33,399
the point is something hand of Marconi that ended up

1559
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:38,199
with employees getting so scared they wanted to leave. And

1560
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,439
I've never got to the bottom of this. I've got

1561
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:42,560
a three about what hamd and how they dealt with them,

1562
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,600
in other words, how the deaths would dealt with them,

1563
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,680
why they did that. But what I don't know, what

1564
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,079
another of us know, is what exactly happened to make

1565
01:14:49,159 --> 01:14:53,119
what hand of Marconi to make this alien substance becomes

1566
01:14:53,199 --> 01:14:56,000
such a psychological and mostly it was. That's a key point.

1567
01:14:56,399 --> 01:14:59,039
This wasn't a physical threat in a way. Something happened

1568
01:14:59,079 --> 01:15:01,239
to the minds of these men that involved in Marconi

1569
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,520
that as they dealt with this substance, something something occurred

1570
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,319
that made them then want to leave. And I mean,

1571
01:15:08,359 --> 01:15:10,119
if you're going to if you if you're a big

1572
01:15:10,319 --> 01:15:12,199
boor on this like me, if you if you go

1573
01:15:12,199 --> 01:15:14,520
into some of their I mean I've even looked up

1574
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,479
things like the death in quest of some of these

1575
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,479
people and their relatives going one day they were in all.

1576
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:21,760
In fact, here we go, David I, right, let's get

1577
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,159
let's bring this back to the UK. Right as a

1578
01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:28,399
good point David I years ago found. So what reminded

1579
01:15:28,399 --> 01:15:31,840
me of this? Recently? David I met someone who wrote

1580
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,159
to her and said, I am a wife or husband

1581
01:15:35,359 --> 01:15:38,920
of a Marconi employee. One day, I recognize them. The

1582
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,239
next day, and this is about the early eighties period,

1583
01:15:41,399 --> 01:15:43,439
the next day, after dealing with whatever it was, I

1584
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,720
don't think they've mentioned anything to with Blackpool or whatever,

1585
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,119
but that their partner, male or female, said the next

1586
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:51,960
day I didn't recognize them. And this is a familiar

1587
01:15:52,119 --> 01:15:54,600
theme with his Marconi workers that when they got involved

1588
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,720
or given a role in this dealing with this black

1589
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,920
Goo sent in nanos, something changed in their personality. What

1590
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,680
seems to have happened then is then is then the

1591
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,279
British state, the British m I five and I six

1592
01:16:08,279 --> 01:16:10,640
intelligence ages came in to try and shut down this

1593
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,439
stuff and go right, don't you dare spread this stuff

1594
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:17,000
anywhere you know or or it might even be And

1595
01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:18,960
this is God. I mean, I don't want to go

1596
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,239
along with with Project Camerlot and Kerry, but she, I mean,

1597
01:16:22,319 --> 01:16:25,960
her claim is that this goo was infected, was injected

1598
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,920
into these workers and that they went a little bit strange.

1599
01:16:29,039 --> 01:16:32,279
I don't buy that. But the point is something happens

1600
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,880
and what happened, and you figure, you know you've got

1601
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,880
You've got the most bizarre series of deaths that you

1602
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,880
could ever find. Twenty three people are doing all sorts

1603
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,039
of stuff and one of those, I mean, Neil, can

1604
01:16:43,079 --> 01:16:44,239
you do you want to play this? Just to give

1605
01:16:44,279 --> 01:16:46,479
us a bit of context, I've posted something and this

1606
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,840
is this is David SAMs, who's one guy, and this

1607
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,159
is one of the milder ones. So imagine all these

1608
01:16:52,199 --> 01:16:54,800
people then wanted to leave and they and they were

1609
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,479
told they couldn't leave, and weird things and so this

1610
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,720
footage which is really rare that I found found from

1611
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,319
a friend of David Sands that I spoke to a

1612
01:17:02,359 --> 01:17:04,960
few years ago. So see what he did to his

1613
01:17:05,319 --> 01:17:07,039
Do you think if you are a car crash to

1614
01:17:07,079 --> 01:17:09,279
kill you up? Do you want to burn to death? Signs?

1615
01:17:09,279 --> 01:17:12,520
Speaker 8: A married man aged thirty seven and recently returned from holiday,

1616
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,800
had stacked ten gallons of petrol in the boot of

1617
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,560
his Maestro car, sure he had serviced more than eighty

1618
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,760
miles prior in to a disused roadside cafe near Basingstoke.

1619
01:17:21,279 --> 01:17:24,239
Colleagues and family say he had been depressed and police

1620
01:17:24,239 --> 01:17:26,880
are working on the theory that he deliberately crashed the car.

1621
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,119
Sans was said to be a brilliant scientist and had

1622
01:17:30,239 --> 01:17:32,760
just finished a three year contract working on top secret

1623
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:37,079
radar systems. It's the latest incident involving scientists working.

1624
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 6: For the Marconi Group.

1625
01:17:38,319 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 8: Last year, Vaimal Dashybai from Kenton and Ashad Sharif from

1626
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,399
East London were found dead near Bristol. Families say they

1627
01:17:45,399 --> 01:17:48,840
don't believe it was suicide. Then in January, Avtar sing

1628
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,159
Gida disappeared near Loughbury University, where he was working on

1629
01:17:52,199 --> 01:17:56,199
a similar defense project. The basic elements of what we

1630
01:17:56,319 --> 01:17:58,920
do do add our to very much like the plot

1631
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,439
of a television show that surely titled for public to

1632
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,760
know what is going on and what has happened to

1633
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,199
these people? An official inquiry will now be launched by

1634
01:18:08,199 --> 01:18:09,920
the Marconiy Group unto the latest death.

1635
01:18:13,039 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 1: I think that's right, Yeah, but but what I mean fascinating,

1636
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,840
and I've gone another I've got another longer clip of

1637
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,720
also other instances, and it goes through the partner of

1638
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,840
one of these people that essentially, essentially i mean middle

1639
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,920
class sky top computing guy. But he went he began

1640
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,239
to for a few weeks. His wife said, he began

1641
01:18:32,319 --> 01:18:34,800
going to a shed and he drilled the people out

1642
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,560
to this to know who was coming. Well, whilst I'd

1643
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,239
tell it someone was after them. Was it a demon,

1644
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,720
was it some et group, or was it m I

1645
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,760
five or Marconi themselves? And and but by the time

1646
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,239
you've read as many inquests, I mean really depressing in quest.

1647
01:18:50,319 --> 01:18:52,359
I've read so many inquest things to do with Marconi

1648
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,079
people who have died, and that's where they would do

1649
01:18:55,359 --> 01:18:58,720
a inquest because the one book that's been written on this,

1650
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:02,079
apart from mind that hopefully in Mars right, the one

1651
01:19:02,119 --> 01:19:05,199
what's been written is called open verdict. And the why

1652
01:19:05,279 --> 01:19:08,479
is it called open verdict because that's what happened when

1653
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,640
whenever they tried to review these deaths, these bizarre deaths,

1654
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:17,079
I mean, chugging yourself off a bridge. Another one an

1655
01:19:17,119 --> 01:19:19,880
Asian guy that was obviously a top beauty programmer working

1656
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,880
on this. He wound down his window, tied a rope

1657
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,199
around his neck in a news prestige sorry, tried, tied

1658
01:19:26,239 --> 01:19:28,520
the other end to a tree, pressed exert on his car,

1659
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:30,880
and pulled his own head off. This is not made up.

1660
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,000
This is just this is just what happens. This is

1661
01:19:33,039 --> 01:19:35,840
all documented. But it gets when you read this, it gets,

1662
01:19:36,079 --> 01:19:38,840
It gets depressing, and it's very difficult for the founilis

1663
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:42,720
of these people because it all came back with corona

1664
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,239
open verdict. In other words, we have no f in

1665
01:19:45,319 --> 01:19:48,239
clue what went on. So we come to a fascinating

1666
01:19:48,279 --> 01:19:51,760
area about my, my, big my. One of my big

1667
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,119
things about the whole alien et sort of thing is

1668
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:58,640
that is its novelty, but also it brings around high strangeness.

1669
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,399
Is that classic Charles Ford sort of you know, high

1670
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,640
strangest theme? Well, my god, what hamda Marconi? Highly strange?

1671
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,560
You don't you don't tie right around your head, pressed

1672
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,239
it clear on your four grenado in ninety five and

1673
01:20:10,279 --> 01:20:11,920
pull your head off, you know, I mean, I mean

1674
01:20:12,119 --> 01:20:13,479
you don't want to know. You don't want to die

1675
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,199
like that. You don't want to also die.

1676
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,319
Speaker 7: By it's almost demonic.

1677
01:20:18,079 --> 01:20:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and there is a sorry to that the paramedic.

1678
01:20:21,079 --> 01:20:22,239
Speaker 4: Team now to attend that one.

1679
01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:25,600
Speaker 1: That was absolutely Yeah, especially you Ben as a hospital

1680
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:26,880
for so you know about this, right.

1681
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean first since horrible things in my time,

1682
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,920
That's that's one thing we've never had. I mean, why

1683
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,479
is such a bizarre to group some suicide? It's exactly

1684
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,319
exactly to me, it sounds like, I mean, it's almost

1685
01:20:38,359 --> 01:20:40,159
like I don't believe it was a sud. I think

1686
01:20:40,159 --> 01:20:43,399
it's too these it's too coincidental. But the very fat

1687
01:20:43,399 --> 01:20:46,359
they choose such I mean the guy who literally packed

1688
01:20:46,359 --> 01:20:50,159
his car full of petrol and drove it a that's roadside.

1689
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 7: I mean, if we despect, if we were to speculate

1690
01:20:53,039 --> 01:20:55,279
as to okay, let's say it's not suicide. Let's so,

1691
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,960
let's say it's some kind of black ops dark mission

1692
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,000
to get rid of these people. Why are they getting

1693
01:21:02,079 --> 01:21:04,840
rid of these people? What would be the reason?

1694
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: Well, a lot, I've got my and Ben. If Ben

1695
01:21:10,079 --> 01:21:13,279
didn't fall asleep in the UFO academy, he'll have seen Well.

1696
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,600
My thing is they were both they were both demonstrating

1697
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:20,439
a lesson to the other employees, which you find I

1698
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,000
mean you find in other rowaers, I mean, I mean

1699
01:21:22,079 --> 01:21:24,600
nine to eleven maybe in other things that let's I mean,

1700
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,600
I mean, let's take Maduro in the moment. I mean

1701
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,479
there's a message like we can come and ef in

1702
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,199
take you anyone from any government anywhere. So if you

1703
01:21:31,239 --> 01:21:33,359
take our drugs profits, and I guarantee you that's what's

1704
01:21:33,399 --> 01:21:36,960
going on. Forget all this oil. The Venezuela was a

1705
01:21:37,359 --> 01:21:40,880
cocaine shipping outlet. It wasn't a make But the point

1706
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,319
is the Americans are going, you just they did this

1707
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,800
with I mean, you know, Neil says not but you

1708
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,479
might be younger than me. But General Noriega, right was

1709
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,600
in Panama. He started taking money off the bushes. You

1710
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,239
don't do that to George Bush senior junior, you don't.

1711
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,399
So they then went and got him right and the

1712
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,079
same with this, and I think it's the same with

1713
01:21:58,119 --> 01:22:00,680
the Marconi. They're basically going, well, if you're gonna sort

1714
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,880
of even if it wasn't these people's faults, let's say

1715
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,640
this alien gou Was went in to their heads or

1716
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,199
and and and or it gave them a view on

1717
01:22:09,239 --> 01:22:11,359
the world just like him. After Roswell, when a lot

1718
01:22:11,399 --> 01:22:13,920
of Catholic people. I mean, comm Ben or who's the

1719
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,319
guy that threw himself thrown out of a window?

1720
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:21,399
Speaker 4: Oh that was that was fake? It Forestal Jack for Forestal,

1721
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:22,800
Yeah wasn't Jack.

1722
01:22:23,119 --> 01:22:25,560
Speaker 1: I get confused between you. But but with I mean

1723
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,319
with with something like that there, you know, it's just like, yeah,

1724
01:22:28,359 --> 01:22:30,159
he was Catholic and he found out about this stuff

1725
01:22:30,279 --> 01:22:32,479
like oh my god, you know aliens and stuff. I've

1726
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,319
been told and I think that's what happens. But whether

1727
01:22:34,359 --> 01:22:36,600
you got thrown or jumped, it doesn't matter. But it's

1728
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,000
the same with this stuff. These these normal, very normal

1729
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,720
and there were normal normal people, these siteds found out

1730
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,840
that there is an et ai an aspect to all

1731
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:47,880
this stuff to do with Mark Comoni, and they couldn't

1732
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,880
take it. But what then happened? What then happened on

1733
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,880
top of their bizarre confused paranoia to do with this

1734
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,600
ety blackgo elements, then incomes M I five, M I six, whoever,

1735
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,439
and they use and this is my where we go

1736
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,079
after this. I think they use a certain technology to

1737
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:06,560
then ensure that they do very bizarre deaths on purpose.

1738
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,199
They could have just come I mean, and it's just

1739
01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:10,119
mentioned they could have just come and probably shot them

1740
01:23:10,119 --> 01:23:13,119
in the head. They made them, do we think why

1741
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,840
either some are cult thing or as a warning to

1742
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,239
other employees in the Marcone intelligence that don't you dare

1743
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,159
come out and try and make an issue of this thing.

1744
01:23:22,199 --> 01:23:25,560
And I don't know, I ordered some domemic elf. Yeah, yeah,

1745
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:26,479
maybe both. I don't know.

1746
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 7: I wonder, I wonder if they're literally about to blow

1747
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:33,359
the whistle on it, like literally basically saying what's going on.

1748
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:36,279
This is absolutely horrendous, this is freaky for the human race.

1749
01:23:36,279 --> 01:23:38,840
We're going to go to the press for it. And

1750
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,880
then basically got taken out before they could do that.

1751
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: Yeah they did. But a fascinating point, Andy, And actually

1752
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:48,399
what some of their partner's relatives ends up saying is that,

1753
01:23:49,159 --> 01:23:51,520
you know, all of a sudden one day they were normal.

1754
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,600
The next day like, you know, I just want to leave,

1755
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,560
you know, and I want to leave this company. And

1756
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:57,560
some of them even applied to other jobs on the

1757
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,760
day they were going to get their interview that's when

1758
01:24:00,199 --> 01:24:03,199
happened to them. So there's some straight stuff going on

1759
01:24:03,239 --> 01:24:05,760
with the you know, with with this intersection between what

1760
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,720
they're experiencing their job and then what happens with Maybe

1761
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,479
they're going to blab or maybe they're going to go

1762
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,399
a bit mad. I don't know, but it's no. I've

1763
01:24:14,399 --> 01:24:19,520
never found anything similar in any developed country that had

1764
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:25,239
the death rate of an intelligi related company like my kind.

1765
01:24:25,319 --> 01:24:27,359
I've never found like Marconi. I've never found it anywhere else.

1766
01:24:27,399 --> 01:24:28,680
I challenged anyone to find it.

1767
01:24:30,239 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 5: It's interesting because when my dad did work for them

1768
01:24:33,239 --> 01:24:36,880
in the nineteen eighties, I only found out about all

1769
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,520
these mysterious deaths, like on news broadcasts that we've just seen.

1770
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,359
My dad never mentioned anything about it at all to

1771
01:24:44,399 --> 01:24:45,079
me in person.

1772
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:51,399
Speaker 1: Be with MARCDI yeah, Marconi employees tend to for some reason,

1773
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,920
Marconi employees tend to be very they tend to keep quiet.

1774
01:24:55,039 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is.

1775
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 1: So I'd be interested to hear that. You know, whether

1776
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:58,520
now are a fuse?

1777
01:24:58,600 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 4: What?

1778
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: What? What's anything else that you heard from your relative,

1779
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,000
because it's interesting with marc Oli they seem different. There's

1780
01:25:04,039 --> 01:25:06,520
no you don't get a whistleblurw from Marconi. They're they're

1781
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,159
very faithful sort of people, but then they kill them anyway.

1782
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 4: Well, I guess like a.

1783
01:25:11,359 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 5: Lot of these military defense companies they have to sign

1784
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:19,199
the minute sorry, the Official Secrets Act, and you know,

1785
01:25:19,359 --> 01:25:22,800
I suppose that could be part of it. But I

1786
01:25:23,079 --> 01:25:26,800
think that once you get one person start talking, the

1787
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,239
pressure would be stepped up on them about you know,

1788
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,840
keep quiet or where threatening your family or whatever. That

1789
01:25:33,079 --> 01:25:36,479
the you know, these intelligence sells is if they got involved,

1790
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,239
would be probably literally have to clear up the mess.

1791
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,439
And that probably be one of the ways they'd likely

1792
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,079
to deal with it with threatening your families.

1793
01:25:43,119 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 6: If you don't, if you don't sort of play ball

1794
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:45,319
with this sort of.

1795
01:25:45,359 --> 01:25:50,520
Speaker 7: Thing, yeah, go as the personality changes things. I hate

1796
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,000
to say it, let's bring the gp jabs back in

1797
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,960
because of course we're talking about the nineteen eighties, but

1798
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,359
none of this has really gone away as such. It's

1799
01:26:01,399 --> 01:26:04,920
bubbling away in the background. So even if we go

1800
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:07,720
onto the most mainstream news and I found this in

1801
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,600
Reuter's USA today, but this is the BBC website, BBC

1802
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:16,680
owned website says Japan finds black particles in moderna vaccine.

1803
01:26:17,079 --> 01:26:20,279
And I can tell you I'm actually a member of

1804
01:26:20,319 --> 01:26:25,680
a few groups on Facebook called died Suddenly to do

1805
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:32,000
with kind of COVID vaccine and all of these horrendous Yeah,

1806
01:26:32,039 --> 01:26:34,279
And there's quite a few groups out there, and there's

1807
01:26:34,359 --> 01:26:37,840
quite a few people talking about what's going on to

1808
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,319
their relatives and their loved ones. Having taken the jibjeb

1809
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:44,560
safe and effective was a lie. They lie to people.

1810
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:49,239
And one of the big things, David is personality changes.

1811
01:26:50,319 --> 01:26:54,079
Personality changes of relatives who have taken one, two, three

1812
01:26:54,119 --> 01:26:57,199
doses of this stuff. This stuff that just so happens

1813
01:26:57,239 --> 01:27:02,199
to have allegedly black part of in the jip jabs

1814
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,640
that may well be graphice oxide or is it mixed

1815
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,760
with something else of a gooey nature.

1816
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I don't want to go off

1817
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,720
in different tangents here, but I think you're dead right

1818
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,720
A because I've experienced that with my parents where I've

1819
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,680
never seen and this was in a week or two

1820
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:22,479
of them having the job. I went down and I've

1821
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:24,680
never known. I mean, they're both quite old and what

1822
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,760
my certainly my mother's a bit seen are but after

1823
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,720
the jabs, I mean they both, I mean they both

1824
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,800
had a temper towns amound me for no reason. I

1825
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,000
was like, my god, where's it. I'm totally different, right?

1826
01:27:34,279 --> 01:27:36,279
And I wrote to Jeff Jeff friends is a big

1827
01:27:36,279 --> 01:27:39,000
one on this whole vaccine personality change. And I wrote

1828
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,880
and told him about this, and he'd had lots of

1829
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,520
things that are around that time. So that's a fascinating area.

1830
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:48,800
But and you're you're right, there's something and again I

1831
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,640
believe you see right, we can go off into other areas.

1832
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:55,199
I don't want it. But there's there's other stuff. There's

1833
01:27:55,279 --> 01:27:58,960
other stuff going on with regards the MR and A

1834
01:27:59,079 --> 01:28:05,600
and stuff that she Anyway, it's interesting that we have

1835
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,479
this stuff to do with these bits of fragments of

1836
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,560
DNA that no one will admit to, like fives and

1837
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,600
all the other stuff they've made. But it seems almost like,

1838
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,319
I mean, something they're saying at the moment that there's

1839
01:28:17,359 --> 01:28:19,760
something to do with the DNA has like the quivment

1840
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,119
of dark matter, and it's almost like the Bill Gay slot.

1841
01:28:22,119 --> 01:28:24,359
We're aware of this, and so they chuk these DNA

1842
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,920
aspects into it and we don't even know what these are.

1843
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,760
I mean, why would you have put DNA fragments into

1844
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:32,000
a job with people.

1845
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:35,119
Speaker 7: They are farlid about it. They said that, oh, no,

1846
01:28:35,159 --> 01:28:38,000
it won't affect your DNA. Then it turns out and

1847
01:28:38,039 --> 01:28:40,000
it does. It does affect your DNA.

1848
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,199
Speaker 4: Is it possible, Is it possible? There's like a connection.

1849
01:28:44,239 --> 01:28:46,920
I mean, David's mentioned the Keem trials and the more

1850
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,279
Gallon's thing. Is this all a part of it? Is

1851
01:28:49,279 --> 01:28:52,920
this nanotechnology, whether it's et, whether it's created by the

1852
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:57,800
government or both actually in modern v words gibili jabs

1853
01:28:58,279 --> 01:29:00,479
and indeed in this sense in oil.

1854
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So so and here's and I'm a big

1855
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:08,039
one for personal experience on this area. For for what

1856
01:29:08,199 --> 01:29:10,039
you know, what happens to what happens to us and

1857
01:29:10,079 --> 01:29:11,920
how how if if something directly happens to us, do

1858
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,880
we believe it more than it has on? Unusual of

1859
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:15,960
course with you to an extent, but we serve our

1860
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:20,600
own realities. Here's a very interesting thing that So from

1861
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,119
dealing with my own area of uh, my partner's area

1862
01:29:24,239 --> 01:29:28,880
of contact. We we'd had things, we've had gadgets hacked

1863
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,960
and a lot of lots of hands. But get this.

1864
01:29:31,199 --> 01:29:35,000
Get this, And I've not discussed this online before or

1865
01:29:35,039 --> 01:29:38,000
within this whole area of contact, all them Barcarie stuff.

1866
01:29:38,159 --> 01:29:41,119
Get this. So remember we're dealing with Alaneuld and Duncan

1867
01:29:41,239 --> 01:29:44,720
Rose from Nexus magazine and these are stable, upright people. Really,

1868
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,760
I mean Alex, Alex really boring normal. You won't mind

1869
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:49,680
saying this. If he watches this, he won't let me saying.

1870
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:53,079
He's a normal guy. He loves he sales model model

1871
01:29:53,359 --> 01:29:55,840
boats around and he likes valley cars. But now it's

1872
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,279
again a bit too old for all this. But you know,

1873
01:29:58,359 --> 01:30:01,319
this guy has undergone some of the most amazing alien

1874
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,199
encounters that's going But and the same with Duncan Rose

1875
01:30:04,239 --> 01:30:06,680
has run next to this magazine you know gone, you know,

1876
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:13,439
gone on for two decades. We in this I I'm

1877
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,000
trying to think I phrase this where I get myself

1878
01:30:15,039 --> 01:30:20,479
into trouble six months before lockdown or anything to do

1879
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:24,079
with jobs or anything else. Then my partner, who's had

1880
01:30:24,119 --> 01:30:27,000
these experiences with me to do with these light up

1881
01:30:27,039 --> 01:30:31,159
coming in which have got evidence of and stuff and things,

1882
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,520
was sent a message to do with how these these

1883
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,720
Jimmy jabs as Annie calls them, are going to shape

1884
01:30:39,079 --> 01:30:42,319
be very kept because what they're going to change the

1885
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:44,479
DNA of the human race, and we're going to have

1886
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,199
another species that's going to be formed, but not right now,

1887
01:30:47,279 --> 01:30:50,239
at a later date. And she has this this screen

1888
01:30:50,279 --> 01:30:52,439
that comes down, it's not a dream. This is like

1889
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:54,520
when she's relaxed, the screen that comes down, and this

1890
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:58,159
is an ongoing thing that happens. And what she told

1891
01:30:58,199 --> 01:31:00,560
me all this, I was astonished. This was just before lockdown.

1892
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,479
I was like, oh my god. I thought, fuck, they're good. Sorry,

1893
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,439
they're coming to inject us all at the door. This

1894
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:07,159
is why. And I'm not a parent. I've been through

1895
01:31:07,159 --> 01:31:09,000
lots of shit in my life. I didn't think. I

1896
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,039
don't think along these lines. I'm not scared of the

1897
01:31:11,159 --> 01:31:13,359
all these powers. But I literally thought when she told

1898
01:31:13,399 --> 01:31:15,159
me this, that my God is going to change DNA.

1899
01:31:15,359 --> 01:31:18,159
I thought, Bill Gaze is massive in England. In England,

1900
01:31:18,159 --> 01:31:20,079
we're gonna come. Because there was set as you know,

1901
01:31:20,119 --> 01:31:21,640
they were setting up in Asda. They were doing car

1902
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,399
parts and I saw all this and I was like,

1903
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,760
my god, they're really they're really going to try and

1904
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,680
corrupt our DNA and take this out, and they're gonna

1905
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:30,119
come and knock on our door. And I was thinking,

1906
01:31:30,199 --> 01:31:31,640
how are you gonna escape? You that I'm gonna run.

1907
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:32,159
Speaker 4: The fuck is over.

1908
01:31:32,199 --> 01:31:34,199
Speaker 1: As I trying to say honestly, all this was going through,

1909
01:31:34,239 --> 01:31:36,520
I bought. I bought all survival stoves and all this

1910
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,119
stuff based on not not on the stuff I saw

1911
01:31:39,159 --> 01:31:42,319
and tell you about about COVID. I think based on

1912
01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:45,199
because it's my you know, my partner who's experienced this

1913
01:31:45,279 --> 01:31:47,960
et stuff is one of the most honest and intuitive,

1914
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,640
and there's a record of her getting this fight. Okay,

1915
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:55,119
So she gets this message about beware, what's happening is

1916
01:31:55,119 --> 01:31:57,560
your DNA is going to be changed. You're gonna be

1917
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,279
aware about there's gonna be a certain amount of human

1918
01:32:00,319 --> 01:32:02,119
people are going to go underground that don't have the

1919
01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:04,960
gw JAB. Other people are going to say above ground

1920
01:32:05,079 --> 01:32:06,680
will will die, and other people that won't die. And

1921
01:32:07,119 --> 01:32:09,159
so it was a long story that I'll go into

1922
01:32:09,239 --> 01:32:14,279
some other time. But what's interesting then is I then

1923
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,359
typed this. I was I was in such a panic

1924
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,239
over this. I typed out to my friends to do

1925
01:32:19,319 --> 01:32:23,880
with this whole area of Falkland's this whole black Goose site.

1926
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,520
I said to my two friends in a sudden hemisphere,

1927
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:28,439
to alec Neil, then to Dunk and I sent an

1928
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:31,960
email one paragraphon I went it sounds like, look, I said,

1929
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:33,920
here's what's going to happen. Sounds like our DNA is

1930
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:35,600
going to be changed, and that the powers that be

1931
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,800
sort of half know about this and half don't. I said,

1932
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:43,199
I pressed send on that. Within twelve hours, all hell

1933
01:32:43,239 --> 01:32:45,960
broke loose. Oh my god, all my phones went, my

1934
01:32:46,119 --> 01:32:50,039
laptops just started overdriving, getting hot, all the stuff that's

1935
01:32:50,039 --> 01:32:53,960
happened before, but this was like something new. It was astonishing.

1936
01:32:54,039 --> 01:32:56,079
So what did that tell me? That that said that

1937
01:32:56,119 --> 01:32:57,840
they sort of know and they were dead interested in

1938
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,039
this stuff that was simply an email. All sort of

1939
01:33:00,119 --> 01:33:03,359
stuff happens. So this again links into all this and

1940
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:05,640
now substance, what's going on with the Falklands.

1941
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 4: What was this stuff?

1942
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:11,039
Speaker 1: Why these ets so determined to shut this down? Why

1943
01:33:11,079 --> 01:33:12,680
were the British so keen to get a hold of it?

1944
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:14,199
What happened when they got a hold of it? And

1945
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:18,600
also Ben mentioned Boots. This is another look I will

1946
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:22,000
hear playing speaking here. Ben mentioned Boots, and that's another

1947
01:33:22,039 --> 01:33:24,279
Miles Johnson's witness that I think is in idiots. I

1948
01:33:24,279 --> 01:33:26,399
don't believe any of that happened. He came out about

1949
01:33:26,399 --> 01:33:28,720
a week after me and said, oh yeah, my mate

1950
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,800
worked for Boots and they threw it down. The drain

1951
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,640
of Boots. I mean ludicrous, right, because these desires from

1952
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:36,119
not not goots are basically not Nottingham. That's where I

1953
01:33:36,119 --> 01:33:37,680
was living. I think he got that sort of idea.

1954
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:40,199
So I don't know, But the point is something happened

1955
01:33:40,239 --> 01:33:42,840
with this stuff. And I do believe as Andy said

1956
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,479
that this black goo is linked somehow to what Bill

1957
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,960
Gay has put in this stuff. But it hasn't worked.

1958
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,239
And that's another sort Why hasn't it worked? Something hammed

1959
01:33:51,279 --> 01:33:53,159
And that's another story, that's another tangent.

1960
01:33:53,239 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 7: I mean, we could we could bring in if we're

1961
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,439
talking about kind of bringing it up to speed in

1962
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:02,159
a modern era, We're we're talking about Kars Stalin's digital

1963
01:34:02,199 --> 01:34:06,680
IDs and what Tony Blair wants to do. He sits there,

1964
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:09,359
Tony Blair, and I've seen him interviewed, say oh, you know,

1965
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,680
we could you know, bring in the mandatory vaccines.

1966
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:14,600
Speaker 1: And you know he's a demon for this period, he's

1967
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:15,279
a demon for it.

1968
01:34:15,319 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 7: He is a demon. He's a demon, or is at

1969
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:21,279
least controlled by demons. But Tony Blair wants your vaccination

1970
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:25,760
status to be linked to your digital ID. Now the

1971
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:28,359
problem with that is, let's say you don't want to

1972
01:34:28,359 --> 01:34:32,279
be vaccinated that goes on digital ID, then you want

1973
01:34:32,279 --> 01:34:34,640
to pay for something at the supermarket. Oh sorry, you

1974
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,800
can't pay for your shopping because you're not vaccinated. It

1975
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:41,720
is the most dangerous demonic agenda you could possibly imagine.

1976
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,359
The only glimmer of light that we've got is that

1977
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:47,479
people don't want it, and there is massive pushback. But

1978
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,800
the problem with the demonic agenda is what they do

1979
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:51,680
is they'll pull it back a little bit and then

1980
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,640
they'll jiggle it a bit, they'll give it a different name,

1981
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:55,880
and then they'll shove it back in again. So that's

1982
01:34:56,159 --> 01:34:59,279
what they'll do. It's well, I mean, we're in a war.

1983
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:00,760
I've said this for many years now.

1984
01:35:01,279 --> 01:35:01,520
Speaker 5: We are.

1985
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:02,199
Speaker 1: Indeed we are.

1986
01:35:02,239 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 7: Indeed we were in a war of light against dark

1987
01:35:05,119 --> 01:35:09,399
demons against the human race. That's that's what the reality is.

1988
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,239
And what I see is going on is I mean,

1989
01:35:12,279 --> 01:35:15,119
this is this is going to end up a complete nightmare.

1990
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:19,479
What I'm hearing is that six G. Five G is

1991
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:24,119
basically when you see all these little antennas on top

1992
01:35:24,159 --> 01:35:26,920
of all of the street lamps everywhere, five G is basically,

1993
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,399
from what I understand, short waves, so you need lots

1994
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:34,039
of antennas and they bounce off each other. So for instance,

1995
01:35:34,119 --> 01:35:37,119
kind of like whatever the first G was, then second second,

1996
01:35:38,199 --> 01:35:40,840
two G, three G. That was kind of like, from

1997
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:44,079
what I understand, long waves to do with like satellites.

1998
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:47,239
Five G is more kind of like it's shorter waves,

1999
01:35:47,239 --> 01:35:49,479
but it's bouncing off each other and creating like more

2000
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:53,520
of a mesh. So they've got less distance, but they're

2001
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,319
kind of like because there's lots of them, they're all

2002
01:35:55,359 --> 01:35:58,640
spread out six G. From what I understand, this is

2003
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:03,640
where it gets proper on sixty is you using humans

2004
01:36:04,039 --> 01:36:10,319
as the body network, body network, integrating humans with the

2005
01:36:10,319 --> 01:36:14,279
G network and all the all the all the technocrats

2006
01:36:14,359 --> 01:36:16,640
love it, Bill Greate, Bill Gates and toned of it.

2007
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:17,520
Oh it's the future.

2008
01:36:18,119 --> 01:36:20,319
Speaker 1: Bill Gates has a good wanks to all this stuff,

2009
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,079
just like Bill, Just like Bill Gates said on that interview,

2010
01:36:24,119 --> 01:36:26,239
which it flawed me the time. I've got to say this.

2011
01:36:26,399 --> 01:36:28,479
Bill Gates is sat there with his wife who's got

2012
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:31,520
the upside down cross next to her, and Bill Gates goes, Yeah,

2013
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,000
we're going to fascinate everyone. We're going to shoot a

2014
01:36:34,039 --> 01:36:35,800
strange the arm. Should it straight in the arm. He

2015
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,199
wasn't seen that one. It's astonishing. He says that the

2016
01:36:38,239 --> 01:36:41,600
guy basically Basically he gets off on the idea that

2017
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:44,000
he's going to vaccinate people and shoot it like a

2018
01:36:44,079 --> 01:36:48,239
junkie stranger arm. So I mean it's mad and it

2019
01:36:48,279 --> 01:36:50,720
does link to frequencies. I think this stuff is all linked.

2020
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:55,119
Speaker 7: Greestrial totally and it's it's it's it's all negative. But

2021
01:36:55,239 --> 01:36:58,640
the only the glimmer of hope is David, you mentioned that,

2022
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,840
but it didn't work. That's the glimmer of hope. That's

2023
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,680
what That's where I'm thinking, if there is any positivity

2024
01:37:05,079 --> 01:37:07,439
in this universe, which I hope there is. My think

2025
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,239
there is. Maybe they're putting a spanner in the works

2026
01:37:10,279 --> 01:37:11,479
of the demons on here.

2027
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 1: They are and you know, please have me on again.

2028
01:37:15,319 --> 01:37:17,079
I love talking to you guys. I think it's great

2029
01:37:17,119 --> 01:37:20,079
that you know your you're good patient people. You let

2030
01:37:20,079 --> 01:37:21,800
me offer and then you come back with some good stuff.

2031
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:26,319
But have me back again. I'll tell you. I'll tell

2032
01:37:26,359 --> 01:37:29,439
you what happened with in a different dimension. I'm not wacky,

2033
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:36,199
right with with a certain tesla type structure that basically

2034
01:37:37,199 --> 01:37:40,239
they were they were told that this had taken place,

2035
01:37:40,399 --> 01:37:44,119
and this goes back to a certain person's South America

2036
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,760
that has a whole team of people. It's a long

2037
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:51,359
chit chat wing'd have. But but but essentially something happened

2038
01:37:51,399 --> 01:37:53,640
that stopped because do you know what, Bill Gates has

2039
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:57,399
not come back. He's not come So is Bill Gates's

2040
01:37:57,479 --> 01:37:59,600
cocky as f right by going we're gonna shoot that.

2041
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:03,159
He was. They were so sure. They've been injecting people

2042
01:38:03,199 --> 01:38:06,000
with this MR and A in underground bases as tests

2043
01:38:06,039 --> 01:38:09,560
for probably one or two decades. You know about underground bases. Yeah,

2044
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,039
there's people in there's people in cages. It sounds it's

2045
01:38:12,039 --> 01:38:14,319
horrible to know about. But if you've been around to

2046
01:38:14,359 --> 01:38:16,479
this scene long enough, then we know that they've got

2047
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,439
people and they're doing ex that's where it's not going

2048
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,119
on above you know, it's not going on terrestrial above

2049
01:38:21,159 --> 01:38:24,000
planet level. They've got these people and they're testing these

2050
01:38:24,039 --> 01:38:27,560
things out on those Well, something changed because Bill Gaves

2051
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,119
was so cocky going we're going to shoot it. They

2052
01:38:30,239 --> 01:38:32,520
thought they assume the death rate was going to be

2053
01:38:33,279 --> 01:38:35,199
and again coming to stuff, we found out it was

2054
01:38:35,399 --> 01:38:37,439
probably go about sixty seventy per cent of the population.

2055
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:41,119
It didn't happen. Something changed and there's been a flip

2056
01:38:41,199 --> 01:38:44,720
in the reality. And that's another story to all this

2057
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:46,960
and maybe links to the I don't know, I can't

2058
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:48,800
work it out. Maybe links to this whole black cooth thing.

2059
01:38:49,079 --> 01:38:51,560
But there's another tangent to it. So it's fascinating. But well,

2060
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:53,560
I think we're okay. Don't worry, We're okay.

2061
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 7: I think this also, I think the whole thing is meshed.

2062
01:38:58,199 --> 01:39:00,439
So if we look at, for instance, and know I've

2063
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,520
run out of tinfoil here, I've got a clown horn,

2064
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:05,439
honk that in a minute. But if you've got some tinfoil.

2065
01:39:07,279 --> 01:39:10,800
But let's I mean, let's face it. Our world leaders

2066
01:39:11,119 --> 01:39:15,079
are either influenced by demons, they are demons with a

2067
01:39:15,199 --> 01:39:18,920
human shell, or at the very least, if they are human,

2068
01:39:19,319 --> 01:39:22,199
they have a dark soul, and they are in secret

2069
01:39:22,239 --> 01:39:28,199
societies linked to satanic demonic forces. Whether it's Bohamian Grove Molloch,

2070
01:39:29,119 --> 01:39:31,800
whether it's the Higher Illuminati, whatever you want to call them.

2071
01:39:32,159 --> 01:39:36,479
These these the top agendas have a negative agenda for

2072
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:40,600
the human race. And what what I speculate may have happened,

2073
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:44,399
I don't think the black goo ever went away. Possibly

2074
01:39:44,399 --> 01:39:47,880
a black ops team came in and basically said to Marconi, right,

2075
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:51,680
we'll have that. Maybe they've been tinkering with it. Maybe

2076
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,600
they've been meddling with it, and maybe they've decided, well,

2077
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,479
what we can use it because our dark gods tell

2078
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,359
us to wipe out most of the human race. Will

2079
01:40:00,399 --> 01:40:03,680
stick elements of it because as you say, it self replicates,

2080
01:40:03,399 --> 01:40:06,520
and so that's the whole thing about nanotechnology. If they

2081
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:09,479
found a way to self replicate it, stick it in

2082
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:13,000
a vaccine, jab in the arm, and don't forget they're

2083
01:40:13,079 --> 01:40:16,159
pushing all sorts of vaccines in a very positive way.

2084
01:40:16,279 --> 01:40:18,479
Oh we've got a cancer vaccine. Now we've got our

2085
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,079
chicken pox vaccine. Now we've got this vaccine and that

2086
01:40:21,239 --> 01:40:24,279
vaccine and vaccine vaccine. RMNA is the future. I've seen

2087
01:40:24,319 --> 01:40:27,760
these reports. R M and A is the future. They're

2088
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:32,039
going full on drive of getting this stuff in people's arms.

2089
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:35,680
And then you've got the integration of six G with

2090
01:40:36,079 --> 01:40:38,760
using human bodies and as antenna's and that's not really

2091
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:41,479
tenfoil because that's now out there there are patents for this.

2092
01:40:42,039 --> 01:40:45,119
I think it's all I mean, the bigger picture in

2093
01:40:45,159 --> 01:40:48,159
a simplified term, I think you've got a demonic agenda

2094
01:40:48,319 --> 01:40:52,000
of people who want to control, well kill off as

2095
01:40:52,039 --> 01:40:54,159
many people as they can and then control the rest

2096
01:40:54,199 --> 01:40:58,039
of the human race as a slave race controlled by

2097
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:00,039
the will probably lose their mind since the person and

2098
01:41:00,039 --> 01:41:04,600
analogy changes. They'll probably just almost behave like NPC's non

2099
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:08,039
player characters and just go through the formalities of being human,

2100
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:13,079
completely controlled by this this black go vaccine GRAPHI nux

2101
01:41:13,159 --> 01:41:15,560
on whatever the hell it is, controlled by six G.

2102
01:41:16,039 --> 01:41:18,159
And then as the norm is like us, the normal

2103
01:41:18,199 --> 01:41:21,359
people looking around thinking what the hell is going on?

2104
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Speaker 1: But but look at look at look that, look at

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the woker younger generation. At the moment, I mean literally,

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at the moment they get any sort of conflict with

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their view of life, they sort of got there. They're like, understand,

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01:41:35,359 --> 01:41:37,720
you know, you know it shuts on, the shutdown is screening,

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and and I think, you know, I think we are

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you know, I mean me, all of us here, we're

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the last sort of generation that as you have some

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semblance of a route in normal, normal reality, right, And

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01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,079
I don't think, but I do think the goog the

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black goo and this stuff and the and and certainly

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01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,319
what we haven't covered here is also another big area

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01:41:56,359 --> 01:41:58,560
of mine wishes, you know. In two thousand and three,

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I set up the UK's first chemtrail discussion formula website. Right,

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01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,880
but what here's let me just say quickly what went

2119
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on with this? And it links into again how people

2120
01:42:10,359 --> 01:42:13,039
how do people wake up? And how how do people

2121
01:42:13,079 --> 01:42:15,960
then cotton onto an area just like the I mentioned

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01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:17,800
with the meme of the black goop. Well, I set

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01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:19,439
up this form in two thousand and three. It's me

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01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:22,000
and Andrew Johnson sort of works on it together, and

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01:42:22,199 --> 01:42:24,840
well I did so I had so many people come

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01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:26,439
to the side of sort of UK and a few

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01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:29,640
other people outside Europe whatever, It wasn't that many. I

2128
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:35,239
got more visits from the Pentagon porn porn porn down. No,

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01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:38,520
I'm not joking. This is the first, because we're going

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01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:40,399
to two thousand. This is this is the first sort

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01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:43,439
of visual If you've ever operated a website, you know

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01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:44,880
about it. You can go into your website and you

2133
01:42:45,279 --> 01:42:48,000
click in and then you go and they go weblog. Well,

2134
01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,279
it used to be very basic. Suddenly about that time

2135
01:42:50,319 --> 01:42:52,800
it got really quite interesting that you could then find

2136
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:55,800
who came from where, who did well. Honestly, my website

2137
01:42:55,920 --> 01:43:00,960
got more visited visitors from things like universities in America, Europe,

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01:43:01,239 --> 01:43:05,279
over here, porn down, scientifics and NASA. I had NASA

2139
01:43:05,319 --> 01:43:07,199
And this was to do with when chem trials weren't

2140
01:43:07,199 --> 01:43:10,439
even discussed online. So you know, you again, how does

2141
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:13,239
how does what's fallen from the sky? And remember compared

2142
01:43:13,279 --> 01:43:16,800
to a vaccine that Andy, you've Teor's barriage? Well, what

2143
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,640
the if have we been inhaling since nineteen ninety nine

2144
01:43:21,239 --> 01:43:23,600
and all sorts of stuff like that? And again, how

2145
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,479
does that link into this whole four Clum's blackgoo thing?

2146
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:27,000
I don't know.

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01:43:27,039 --> 01:43:31,520
Speaker 7: I don't know on a really simplistic basis, David. I mean,

2148
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:34,000
you know, but me and you, we've all all of

2149
01:43:34,079 --> 01:43:36,439
us in this this chat at the moment. We've lived

2150
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:39,680
a few decades, whether it's in three decades, four decades,

2151
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:45,039
whatever it is, have you ever known anybody so unhealthy

2152
01:43:45,239 --> 01:43:49,640
and ill? Everywhere you look, like friends and family. Everyone's

2153
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:53,439
got health issues, everyone's got failing health. Everyone's got either

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01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:57,439
disease or conditions, or they're just put where's the healthy people?

2155
01:43:57,840 --> 01:43:59,880
It didn't used to be like this. We didn't use

2156
01:43:59,920 --> 01:44:03,600
to have unhealthy, sick people all the time surrounding us.

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01:44:04,199 --> 01:44:06,880
Even in casual conversations, friends will say, oh, I've got

2158
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:09,720
a cold, I'm feeling one down. I'm tired, I've got

2159
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:14,399
no energy that the yeah where we didn't have that

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decade ago, not to that extent.

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Speaker 5: H Right, I think we better draw this, this this

2162
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:26,319
chat to a cluse because I think we're all waning

2163
01:44:26,399 --> 01:44:31,039
here a bit being good out I think. But thank

2164
01:44:31,079 --> 01:44:33,920
you very much for David for joining us, and we

2165
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,079
certainly would like to invite you back for a part

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01:44:36,159 --> 01:44:39,680
two to follow up on what happened to the Black Good,

2167
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:44,439
maybe what happened to Marconi was still contained and where

2168
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:47,159
did it end up? And what's happened to the aliens

2169
01:44:47,159 --> 01:44:49,079
that were trying to rescue us from this Black Good?

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Speaker 6: Anything like that is as a bus interest to me.

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01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:56,359
Speaker 5: But Ben, did you just want to say a few

2172
01:44:56,399 --> 01:44:59,359
final words before we depart.

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01:44:59,199 --> 01:45:02,239
Speaker 4: Just basically I want to say thanks very much. It's

2174
01:45:02,239 --> 01:45:04,319
been really really great to be in a school. Hope

2175
01:45:04,359 --> 01:45:06,680
forward to the next I look forward to the next

2176
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:08,279
time that we're together and we can maybe go into

2177
01:45:08,279 --> 01:45:10,039
more detail, because as David said, there's a lot more

2178
01:45:10,079 --> 01:45:14,359
to discuss here than what we've been through before. I

2179
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:20,800
probably disagree with David on a few things, but I

2180
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,199
really respect what he's doing, and he's really really cool.

2181
01:45:23,199 --> 01:45:26,800
I must apologize to him, actually for I must apologize

2182
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,199
to him if I if I got very drowsy during

2183
01:45:29,239 --> 01:45:32,760
the what for the event at the UFO Academy Waken

2184
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:36,039
and where it's because I just I always do a conference,

2185
01:45:36,159 --> 01:45:37,840
especially when I sleep well the night before.

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01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:41,039
Speaker 1: So it actually you were sat next to me then

2187
01:45:41,079 --> 01:45:41,960
in the audience were.

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01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 4: Not Yeah, just because it's I wasn't sleeping very well.

2189
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And what I'm gonna do next time about that, I'll

2190
01:45:47,359 --> 01:45:48,920
make sure I stay at a proper place where I

2191
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:49,439
can have like.

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01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:58,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a line of Charlie, A nice Charlie.

2193
01:45:59,079 --> 01:46:02,399
Speaker 4: I'll take whatever they gave Joe Biden when But thanks

2194
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,199
very much, baby, it's been good too. It's been good

2195
01:46:04,279 --> 01:46:05,960
to talk. She really as I.

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Speaker 6: Must have been.

2197
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:08,720
Speaker 5: I've sat next to Bennett conferences and know he's been

2198
01:46:08,840 --> 01:46:11,479
nodding off. So yeah, we have had a lot Ben

2199
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,359
Roder or something to keep them away.

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01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 1: We love Ben. There's there's just a great person that's

2201
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:19,600
been around for twenty odd years in the conspiracy scene

2202
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,399
and and you know we love Ben. It's just someone

2203
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:24,439
that aws turns up and it makes you feel at home.

2204
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:26,239
When Ben turns up to an event, it's great.

2205
01:46:26,319 --> 01:46:29,760
Speaker 7: But in Ben's defense, these are for people who aren't

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01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:33,439
aware of the UFO Academy and Watford. They usually have

2207
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:37,199
about four talks and each talk is two hours long straight.

2208
01:46:37,279 --> 01:46:40,199
Sometimes they go over, so that's eight hours of pure

2209
01:46:40,279 --> 01:46:43,720
talking and demonstrations and talks. Fascinating though they may be,

2210
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,479
it's it is kind of quite exhausting and draining, not

2211
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:50,039
just physically but also kind of like the amount of

2212
01:46:50,079 --> 01:46:53,079
information your brain has to take in eight hours.

2213
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,239
Speaker 4: It's a great e then I love it. But it's

2214
01:46:56,279 --> 01:46:58,439
a great I really love it, and we'll do everything

2215
01:46:58,439 --> 01:46:59,520
I can to go to the next one.

2216
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,960
Speaker 1: But it's it's quite yeah, especially if you're a Simon

2217
01:47:03,079 --> 01:47:05,239
Parks and you get an extra three hours for everyone

2218
01:47:05,239 --> 01:47:07,399
to waffle on about ship to do is that he

2219
01:47:07,399 --> 01:47:09,960
thinks he's affected Trump, he's done this and that and

2220
01:47:10,199 --> 01:47:12,760
search bull ship. I mean, I mean, I mean, if

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01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:14,680
you want to if you're to fall asleep, there the

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01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:17,760
fall seas Simon Parks right, never mind, Sorry, I had

2223
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:19,640
I had a bout with him the way when he

2224
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:22,479
first came out as a quote labor counselor, which he

2225
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,039
wasn't anyway, never mind, sorry, I'll shut up there. I'm

2226
01:47:25,039 --> 01:47:28,880
getting trouble I've had I should just shut Okay, please

2227
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:30,560
invite me back. I've had a great time.

2228
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:35,159
Speaker 5: In Everybody dugged in so that we can upload our

2229
01:47:35,239 --> 01:47:37,479
video to things. So even if you want to mute

2230
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:39,399
your mic and switch off your camera, just stay on

2231
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:42,680
the browser because we need that browser open so that

2232
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,319
I can take your recordings from your computers.

2233
01:47:45,359 --> 01:47:47,640
Speaker 6: And and the speed are going to help me do

2234
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:50,439
sit uploading recordings.

2235
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, stay logged in and stay contentious.

2236
01:47:54,119 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, also says Natasha. There because I didn't say

2237
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:59,159
hello to hers, so helo Natasha.

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01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:01,079
Speaker 1: Right, right, right, right minute, you're right. So she's going

2239
01:48:01,159 --> 01:48:03,439
to kill me for this. She's in a dressing gown.

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01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:06,800
Speaker 4: Call it alo Natasha.

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01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's marking a teacher schoolwork ready for tomorrow, right,

2242
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:14,079
she argues, all right, yeah, does this right?

2243
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:14,640
Speaker 7: I'm going to go.

2244
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:15,039
Speaker 5: Thank you.

2245
01:48:15,079 --> 01:48:17,359
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It's been a great chat, I compared to

2246
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:19,159
most charts and in a great chat. Thank you, and

2247
01:48:19,239 --> 01:48:22,119
please please have me bad. We'll go on with the Marconi.

2248
01:48:22,159 --> 01:48:25,279
It gets much weirder. And if you then follow what

2249
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,000
Ben might I mean? Ben was probably sleep. But if

2250
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:30,600
you know what I discussed, the wafers, it gets crazy,

2251
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:34,479
it gets mikedrolled crazy, so so so inviney back.

2252
01:48:35,159 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 5: Well watching you've been watching the Paranormal peep Show on

2253
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:42,359
the Paranorm the UK Radio Network or listening to it

2254
01:48:42,399 --> 01:48:45,119
indeed on the parentom the UK Radio Network. Thank you

2255
01:48:45,279 --> 01:48:48,359
once again to David for joining us talking about all

2256
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,680
things Marconi and Blackgoo and the Fuldon Islands and where

2257
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:55,680
else it goes to. Thanks to Ben Emlin Jones and

2258
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,279
the Chaplain for joining us as well. And they can

2259
01:48:58,319 --> 01:49:01,079
find out more about your stuff on tune events. Is

2260
01:49:01,079 --> 01:49:02,359
that right on facebe.

2261
01:49:02,199 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 7: On tuned in events on Facebook and Instagram, and don't

2262
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:08,319
forget to pop down to your local supermarket, get a

2263
01:49:08,359 --> 01:49:11,199
massive roll of tinfoil and make a nice little cone

2264
01:49:11,199 --> 01:49:12,479
hat has to do.

2265
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 5: And Ben, they can find out about your stuff on

2266
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:17,279
Hipamwo Voice.

2267
01:49:17,079 --> 01:49:20,039
Speaker 4: That's right, HPA and wor Hospital Porters against the New

2268
01:49:20,079 --> 01:49:22,800
World Order. And check out my book roswhil Rising, a

2269
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,600
novel of Disclosure, which is all about these sort of things.

2270
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,800
So that it's been great great to be on the

2271
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:30,399
show again, guys, Thanks very much.

2272
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 5: I did forget to put David's a question to him

2273
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:35,560
regard on his own website, but he's gone now so

2274
01:49:35,600 --> 01:49:37,920
we'll have to leave it and maybe add it later

2275
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:38,600
on or something.

2276
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:39,600
Speaker 6: But great.

2277
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:42,079
Speaker 5: We're joining us next month, hopefull We're trying to get

2278
01:49:42,119 --> 01:49:44,359
David in for next month or at least very soon

2279
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,079
for part two to this, because it's been absolutely fascinating.

2280
01:49:47,079 --> 01:49:48,960
There's a lot more to come. So thanks very much

2281
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:50,880
for joining us, and I hope you've all enjoyed it.

2282
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 6: Good Night.

2283
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:08,319
Speaker 5: The published wanted to.

2284
01:50:11,119 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 4: Butt then not hanted with nothing, but the little hating

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01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:24,640
never acted to art, and the never