WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.960 --> 00:00:08.560 All right, fellas like we practiced two three full, come on, come. 2 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:17.719 On down with the brothers tonight, Come on down to 3 00:00:17.879 --> 00:00:20.399 the Brother's coming place. 4 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:25.480 To dude, it's so funny. 5 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:27.879 I remember one where there's uh, there's a girl who 6 00:00:27.960 --> 00:00:30.640 runs out. It's funny because just one girl voices all 7 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:32.719 the girls on the show and she goes, if I 8 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:34.479 don't win, I swear killed myself. 9 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:38.200 Yeah, and then she like box like hardcore. 10 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:42.439 So alright, let's get this going. Welcome everyone back to 11 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:46.880 the Brother's common place. Say Comedy and Crime podcast Recover Monsters, Murders, 12 00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:51.920 myster Reason. Got a whole bunch of handsome boys down here, 13 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:53.719 so why don't we meet them all together? 14 00:00:55.320 --> 00:01:00.119 Fuck? Due? All right, So what's going on? Got him? Or? 15 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.200 As they called me when I was at Superhero but 16 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:05.599 instead of instead of shooting out webbs, I shot out 17 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:13.040 cheese sauce, Tom holland that fucking good. 18 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:16.799 Yeah, you needed to say that. 19 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:19.319 A lot of these. 20 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:21.439 The road down. 21 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:31.000 One of these is Selma, Hijack, Dudeish. 22 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:41.120 Green Man, aka AK the Destroyer, AK swamp Ripper, and 23 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:43.519 many many many more names. 24 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:47.480 Always an honor, always a privilege. Too bad today wasn't 25 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:49.319 tomorrow's the twentieth. 26 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:55.719 Let's just pretend it's after midnight. 27 00:01:55.760 --> 00:02:00.799 Now a be with everybody in spirit, trust me, ghost Man. 28 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:05.879 You can also go to Columbine too on the anniversary 29 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:08.400 Hitler's birthday. 30 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.039 All right, you know the sound of that voice. But 31 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:14.360 you don't know is he's wearing a very special shirt today. 32 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:15.520 Who we got over there? 33 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:18.879 What's up guys' carn shirt? 34 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:22.520 All right? 35 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:24.400 So what the Newcastle, Big Boy? 36 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:26.960 Your Castle, Big Boy the Singing Swordsman. 37 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:32.919 Yeah, that one's old school good. 38 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:37.319 And then I love the Newcastle Big Boys Castle Bycastle. 39 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:42.759 Wasn't it like the Senate? Yeah? 40 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:50.800 That spider on TV in Australia and it is your boy. 41 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:54.400 Yeah a k the diamond handed dirty Dog. But today 42 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:58.439 go ahead and call me Johnny splash fuck yeah, because 43 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:06.599 we'll make you squirt. So today is gonna be a 44 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:09.400 wild one just because we got all these boys here today. 45 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:12.479 I can't believe you're hoping he didn't have anything to 46 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:13.479 do with the Dorfhuns. 47 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:18.400 Oh yeah, you know what, Why do they? Why are 48 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:21.439 they sitting so far away? Hey, Dophin family come up 49 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:21.879 to the bro. 50 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:24.680 Just randomly. 51 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:27.360 On WrestleMania, they showed the general like from like the 52 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:29.919 car insurance and it was like the general with the 53 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:31.280 Dowarfman family. 54 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:35.919 Don't want surprise or what they thought they had these 55 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:38.840 seasons as far back bringing up the Dorphin family to 56 00:03:38.879 --> 00:03:42.479 sit up front. Everyone is just making jokes about the 57 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:48.560 Dorphin family. So many about in WrestleMania yesterday the Dorphin family. 58 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:53.680 In that fucking uh Psycho Sids. 59 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:55.439 Say that did you see It's Sids family that was. 60 00:03:57.479 --> 00:04:00.960 Nipples. That one dude's nipples so fucking his brother. 61 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:07.479 One his hair looked like uh Jacobs when he was Yeah, 62 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:10.360 and then his other the rest of his family. 63 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:11.919 They must let him out of the box. 64 00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:14.439 A little guy. 65 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:17.360 Alright, Yeah, they're back. 66 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:21.319 In there now. Today is gonna be wild. 67 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:23.439 We're going to try to get through this talking. 68 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:25.920 He was. 69 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:30.800 This case. We're talking a mile. We got this guy 70 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:33.120 who did something early in life and then he kind 71 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.199 of vanished for a bit, and then he comes back 72 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:39.319 later and does a little something else. Hashtag wild man. 73 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:44.720 Today we're talking about Joven Collier. Our sources today we 74 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:48.480 got murder Pedia, Uh spoiler alert, this website they will 75 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:58.800 kill you dot com series, ABC dot Com and Milwaukee 76 00:04:58.920 --> 00:04:59.800 Journal Sentinel. 77 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:04.600 What is the guy's name from? Uh? Oh? Fuck? Uh? 78 00:05:05.959 --> 00:05:08.480 What the hell's that show? Now? The one that's the 79 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:11.920 Olsen Twins. Fuck's that show? Full House? Yeah? Full House? 80 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:13.240 What's the guy from that? 81 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:13.480 Like? 82 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:16.560 Dave cool? Yeah, Yeah, that's what that reminded me of. 83 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:17.399 I could think of his name? 84 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:19.399 And Blowy is fucking. 85 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:26.480 Which one want to see Joe Joey. 86 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:27.279 Sly about him. 87 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:30.439 Ain't gotta be handsome, just gotta make him laugh exactly. 88 00:05:30.519 --> 00:05:31.920 Dude, he's got that wood chuck. 89 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.319 Yeah, him holding that baby like, oh, did anybody order 90 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:36.839 a pizza? 91 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:38.959 It's so fun, dude? 92 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:42.920 So alrighty, So first we're going to start off with 93 00:05:43.000 --> 00:05:45.240 something that happened November of twenty ten. 94 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:45.800 Oh. 95 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:51.079 This is from Dailymail dot co dot uk. When school 96 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:55.120 teacher Candy Williams met Jove and Colier on a beach 97 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:57.560 in the Sunshine State in late two thousand and five, 98 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:01.759 she thought her search for love was over. Within three months, 99 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:04.120 he had moved in with her and they planned to marry. 100 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:09.759 So moving real quick, real fast, she said, quote it 101 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:12.439 was a whirlwind. We hit it off that day. It 102 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:15.879 was really quick. He was very charming, a smooth talker. 103 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:20.000 Sweet you know and funny. So Miss Williams said the 104 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:22.399 pair had a lot in common when they met, having 105 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:26.000 both recently moved to the Saint Petersburg area, and they 106 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:29.839 were trying to build a new life. Uh, anyone want 107 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:31.000 to do a disclaimer? 108 00:06:33.079 --> 00:06:34.639 We make fun of a lot of people. If you 109 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:38.959 don't like that, fuck you, there's. 110 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:44.040 Green Man for you. Alrighty, where are we We're just joking. 111 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:48.879 We're just joshing. Yeah they are so green Man serious whatever, 112 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:49.360 he says. 113 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:50.079 Ye. 114 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:53.040 So, yeah, she said they had a lot in common, 115 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:55.319 so right away they're already going to move in together, 116 00:06:55.399 --> 00:06:58.839 plan to get married. Quote. I was looking for someone 117 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:01.519 to share my life with, she told twenty twenty co 118 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:02.839 anchor Chris Cuomo. 119 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:05.959 Okay, yeah, she's still alive. God them. 120 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:09.279 I was just missing a significant other that I really wanted, 121 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:12.160 She said. They bonded over both having dealt with loss 122 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:15.160 in their lives. I'd been through a lot of tough times, 123 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.439 lots of deaths in my family. The first day at 124 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:20.120 the beach, he told me that his parents have been 125 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:23.839 killed in a tragic car accident by drunk drivers, and 126 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:26.680 he had always felt like he was missing something, she added, 127 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:29.040 So like right away they're like bonding over loss and 128 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.240 stuff and just yeah, they felt like they were, you know, 129 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:36.360 just hitting it off really well. Yeah, let's see here. 130 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:38.839 What she didn't know at that time was that the 131 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:41.120 man she was sharing her bed with and enjoying a 132 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:45.319 romance with would soon turn into a real life horror story. 133 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:45.759 Ohn. 134 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:48.680 Shit, Yeah, so right off the bat, this absolutely sucks 135 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:51.680 for Candy. She's a school teacher. She's been through a 136 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:52.360 lot already. 137 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:53.720 I don't know the. 138 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:55.720 Details of it, but she said, like, you know, she's 139 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:58.000 dealt with a lot of death and family and stuff, 140 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:01.279 and she thinks that she finally found the one. She 141 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:03.519 found a nice guy. They have a lot in common, 142 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:07.839 and right away they're moving fast or moving in within weeks, 143 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:12.079 planning to get married, already doing some anal didn't say 144 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:19.480 that that back there on it between the lines here 145 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:22.079 sounds like they did a lot of anal Yeah, uh 146 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:26.800 so from ABC news dot Com. While Colier was attractive, intelligent, 147 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:31.839 and ambitious, this apparent total package came with the fuzzy 148 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:35.960 web of connections. He would regularly leave Florida for the 149 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:39.679 Midwest to visit friends, an ex wife, and his son. 150 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:42.799 Oh yeah, he's like, wait, you, you have an ex wife, 151 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:44.639 you have kids with Hell, it's. 152 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:49.279 You're just going on a trip for a little bit. 153 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:53.360 I hope he didn't even say X my wife real quick. 154 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:55.759 You're just gonna go see a woman and her kid 155 00:08:55.840 --> 00:09:01.159 who my ex wife and myself. Yeah, but keep that butle. 156 00:09:02.559 --> 00:09:04.240 Why are you buying so much condoms? 157 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:05.720 Yeah? 158 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:06.679 I gotta go see my son. 159 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:14.000 Candy later found out that Colier also was reconnecting with 160 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:18.159 a daughter named Nicole, from whose life he had been 161 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:22.840 conspicuously absent for nearly six years. Wow, so she's like, wait, 162 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:24.840 you also have a daughter? What the fuck? 163 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.639 He's like, oh shit, should have been like first date, Like, 164 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:32.639 hey you have you know, a son and a daughter 165 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:34.200 in a life. Yeah. 166 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:38.080 Luckily for Colier, Candy was supportive. So she's like, she 167 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:40.519 seems like such a good like a nice girl, good person. 168 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:43.279 She said, I do care about his daughter. She's a 169 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:47.720 very nice young lady. And these feelings worked both ways. 170 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:50.320 It was very nute. It was very neat to see 171 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.399 that Nicole said this is his daughter. She said, quote, 172 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:56.759 I mean, my dad was getting his life back on tracks, 173 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:00.240 settling down hopefully for good. So he's introducing his daughter 174 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:02.279 to or they like each other, so that's always good. 175 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:05.840 As Collier learned again to be a father, he was 176 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:09.039 given the chance to be a son. It turned out 177 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.720 that the parents who, according to Collier, had died in 178 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:15.679 a car crash, those were actually adoptive parents to whom 179 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:19.559 he was given at birth. Okay, so he's like, yeah, 180 00:10:19.600 --> 00:10:22.080 my parents that died in a car crash, they were 181 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:23.080 my adoptive parents. 182 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.559 So like his mom just like drop them off or something. 183 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:31.080 Yeah, that's yeah. 184 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:32.360 Quote this is what. 185 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:36.159 He says now because he did an interview with twenty 186 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:39.720 twenty also, so he says, quote, I honestly had abandonment 187 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:42.720 issues my entire life. I never felt like I was 188 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:45.519 part of anything. I was reminded that I was adopted 189 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:45.840 a lot. 190 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:47.120 I hope. 191 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:49.200 He's like, yeah, because my adoptive parents would just call 192 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:49.840 me orphaned. 193 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:52.039 Yeah. 194 00:10:52.399 --> 00:11:03.960 I was told that my mother was a whore. This 195 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:05.720 is all just about his adoptive. 196 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:07.679 Father war fit. Your mom's a horror. 197 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:12.960 She's I was also told she's a horrible person, she's 198 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:17.320 trailer trash, blah blah blah. But his mother was far 199 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:20.480 from trailer trash. His real mother. She is, in fact, 200 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.399 an attractive Atlanta realtor. She's married to an affluent and 201 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:28.200 affluent plastic surgeon. Wow, And after searching for years, she 202 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.320 was able to track down her long lost son. So 203 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:35.039 she he actually finds her, and she finds him. I 204 00:11:35.080 --> 00:11:36.200 think she was looking for him. 205 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:40.000 Actually, she just came up for adoption, like because she Yeah, 206 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:42.000 I don't know why, Okay, yeah, but he was giving 207 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:42.679 up for adoption. 208 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:44.879 He found out when he was like twelve or thirteen. 209 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:49.919 I think his adoptive parents died in a car accident, 210 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:52.720 he says. And he didn't know his real parents until 211 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:53.679 way later on. 212 00:11:53.879 --> 00:11:54.759 Who raised him? 213 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:57.879 Uh, we'll get there, Okay, gotcha. 214 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:01.240 Yeah, he was actually dropped off at Notre Dome, the 215 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:02.840 giant church. 216 00:12:06.600 --> 00:12:06.799 Home. 217 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:09.559 Yeah, stay right here, raised by gargoyles. 218 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:11.360 Dude. 219 00:12:13.240 --> 00:12:15.320 Yeah, so he might not be telling the truth about 220 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:15.639 some of this. 221 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:16.120 Oh you. 222 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:20.360 A while into their relationship, Candy found out that cole 223 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.080 Air was married twice before and had two children. So 224 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:26.639 he's talking about getting married with her, like a month 225 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.120 into the relationship and he's already been married twice. 226 00:12:29.200 --> 00:12:31.399 Yeah, it's like, okay, this isn't gonna work out. 227 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:36.240 They had a brief breakup when she found out that 228 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:39.399 he was making trips to Indiana to apparently spend time 229 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:42.120 with his son, but it turned out he was still 230 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:44.879 married and he was trying to like get back together 231 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:48.320 with his second wife, so hashtag while that's kind of funny. 232 00:12:51.159 --> 00:12:54.960 Although he had lied about his adoptive parents dying in 233 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:56.919 a car crash, yeah, we'll get to that. They don't 234 00:12:56.919 --> 00:12:59.639 really die in a car crash, he had shared with 235 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:02.360 Can that his birth mother had found him and they 236 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:07.200 now enjoyed a relationship. So he's like, yeah, my parents, 237 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:09.799 my Adoctor parents didn't really die in a car crash. 238 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:12.879 But I did find my birth mother and now I 239 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:14.840 have a relationship with my real mom. 240 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:15.519 All right. 241 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:20.039 He told twenty twenty about his adoption quote, I honestly 242 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.639 had abandonment issues my entire life. Yeah, pretty much the 243 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:26.240 same quote Alred you read where he's like, I don't. 244 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:28.320 I didn't feel like part of anything. I was always 245 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:34.679 told I was adopted and felt like, yeah, so they. 246 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:38.519 Take me to the they weren't dead. Then they adoptive 247 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:40.080 parents like they're dead. 248 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:43.480 But he's telling them. He's not telling the whole story 249 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:48.600 about his about his coming up and everything. So I 250 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:51.519 mean he did he lied about his adoptive parents dying 251 00:13:51.559 --> 00:13:54.559 in a car crash. He lied about having two wives, 252 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:55.519 having two kids. 253 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.799 He lied about the. 254 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:05.840 Anal probably what's that buttles? Two butttholes, hey to how 255 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:07.559 you doing. I'm just sitting on this in or two 256 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:09.039 because my second buttthole. 257 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:09.200 Her do this. 258 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:14.840 So that's going into characters like that takes some skill. 259 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:19.840 Keeping it up for years, yea, believing it. So that's 260 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:26.240 you're not friends anymore, your friend for like a year 261 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:26.399 or so. 262 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:31.879 So so Jovin he we don't really know much about 263 00:14:31.879 --> 00:14:34.639 his birth parents. We know that he was adopted, or 264 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:37.360 he said he's adopted, and he said that his adopted 265 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:41.639 parents were killed by trunk drivers. But then soon after 266 00:14:41.679 --> 00:14:44.440 finding his birth mother, he's like, yeah, I found my 267 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:48.559 birth mother. He's telling that the candy, his birth mother 268 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:51.200 quits talking to him all together. Oh fuck yeah dude, 269 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:58.399 Well yeah, hash wild mom, Dude, she's a quote. But 270 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.399 his mother turned out not to be what he claims 271 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:05.279 his adoptive parents called her like, because according to him, 272 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:07.799 his adoptive parents were saying his real mom's a whore 273 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:11.679 and all this other shit and trailer trash. But yeah, 274 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:14.320 she's a realtor in Atlanta, she's married to a plastic surgeon. 275 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:15.360 She's doing really well. 276 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:15.720 Yeah. 277 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:19.639 So she apparently had searched for him for years before 278 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:23.360 finally tracking down her long lost son, and a DNA 279 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:26.480 test would prove their relationship. So this woman is actually 280 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:30.120 his real mom that finds him. For a while, everything 281 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:32.720 was great in both relationships that he had with Candy 282 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:36.120 and also with his mother, and they even all spent 283 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:40.120 Thanksgiving together. Oh so things are going good for him. However, 284 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:43.639 and the summer two thousand and eight, Collier told Candy 285 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:46.039 that he was no longer speaking to his mother because 286 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:50.000 she she stopped having a relationship with him. He said 287 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:53.159 that she had bad mouthed his girlfriend fuck and he 288 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:55.919 didn't like that, so he cut off relationship with his mom. 289 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:57.240 Candy. 290 00:15:57.320 --> 00:15:59.559 Yeah, that's what he told her. You understand she's not 291 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:02.200 rounding because she says she called you. She was talking 292 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:04.360 about show. She said the a I made up all 293 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:05.159 this stuff on anal. 294 00:16:05.279 --> 00:16:08.320 Yeah, she said your mashed potatoes that Thanksgiving Thanksgiving a 295 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:08.960 fucking sock. 296 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:13.000 Yeah, yude potatoes. 297 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:18.120 In reality, his mother had found something out about her son, 298 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:21.519 and then Candy would find something out as well. 299 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:22.759 But what could that be? 300 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:27.080 It turns out, guys, that Joven Colier is actually someone 301 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:33.159 named Peter Zimmer. Dude, Hell yeah, dude, yes, from they 302 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:36.080 will Kill You dot com. So seems like we might 303 00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:38.600 have a turn coming up. Was there like a black 304 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:40.279 hid near him that was going to get skittles? 305 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:45.159 The same name. 306 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:51.480 So Jovin Colier, originally named Peter Zimmer, was born July seventh, 307 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:56.080 nineteen sixty eight. This is dom This is bullshit. His 308 00:16:56.360 --> 00:17:01.519 real dad's name is Hans Zimmer. Yeah, yes, why would 309 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:02.639 you not tell people that? 310 00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:04.039 I'll tell everybody. 311 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:08.200 Yeah, not the Hans Zimmer, but still a fucking Hans. 312 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:10.799 There was more than one Hans Zimmer. 313 00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:17.680 His mom's name is Sally Zimmer, and they lived in Wakanda, Illinois. 314 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:19.119 That should be a superhero. 315 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:22.279 And when you look up Wakanda, Illinois on their wiki, 316 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:25.839 it's like, yeah, after a black panther came out, tons 317 00:17:25.880 --> 00:17:29.559 of prank calls came into this place, people calling it 318 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:31.359 pretending it was actually Wakanda. 319 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:33.319 Yeah. 320 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:35.200 Peter was the couple's first son. 321 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:35.839 He was. 322 00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:41.279 Adopted when he was just a newborn. Four years later 323 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:43.559 they adopted another child, a boy named Perry. 324 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:44.000 So this. 325 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:53.279 Yeah, whenever, Yeah, it's very confusing. He gets adopted by 326 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:58.000 Hans and Sally Zimmer, so when he's just a super 327 00:17:58.079 --> 00:18:01.519 young he gets adopted. So his real mom that does 328 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:05.799 find him later is not these people. So yeah, Hans 329 00:18:05.799 --> 00:18:09.200 and Sally Zimmer. The Zimmer family face challenges when Hans 330 00:18:09.319 --> 00:18:16.440 lost his job as an airplane mechanics. Yeah, dude, for real, 331 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:22.319 so he decided to buy a keyboard. This led to 332 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:25.480 them to move to Mineral Point, Wisconsin in search of 333 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:28.799 a new start. The family lived in a farmhouse a 334 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:32.839 few miles outside of town. Peter enrolled in Mineral Point 335 00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:35.359 High School and was viewed as a popular kid who 336 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:39.000 excelled in track. However, some friends from his previous school 337 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:42.079 noticed that he didn't seem very happy in his new surroundings. 338 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:46.160 How do they like their water there? 339 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:52.960 During his early teenage years, Peter learned that he was adopted, 340 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.680 which was confirmed by his parents after a relative hinted 341 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:57.000 at it. 342 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:07.839 Fuck yeah, uncle, drunk, uncle's you get your mom something 343 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:10.519 from Mother's Day? 344 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:12.759 Yeah? 345 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:14.839 Yeah, for he I fucked her. 346 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:17.359 So I think he was twelve or thirteen when he 347 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:20.200 found out the hell yeah, like, why did you tell 348 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:20.640 him that? 349 00:19:21.519 --> 00:19:23.680 That was definitely a drunk n Cale. Yeah. Uh. 350 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:26.920 He felt a sense of alienation, believing relatives often spoke 351 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:30.319 ill of his birth mother. Peter struggled with his identity 352 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:34.240 and felt he was treated differently compared to his adoptive siblings. 353 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:37.680 You know, so he's like you guys like Perry better 354 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:40.640 than you like me, Like Perry's also adopted. 355 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:41.160 Yeah. 356 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:47.599 What about May nineteen eighty three, when Peter was only fourteen, 357 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.880 things would take a tragic turn. A counselor at his 358 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:57.240 school received worrying information that Peter had mentioned wanting to 359 00:19:57.279 --> 00:19:58.200 harm his family. 360 00:19:58.599 --> 00:19:59.559 That woman. 361 00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:09.000 Was the uncle. I would get it, you know. Yeah, 362 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:12.920 May twenty third, nineteen eighty three, We're just gonna jump 363 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:16.640 right into it. Peter Zimmer killed three members of his family. 364 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:21.039 He kills his adoptive parents, Hans and Sally Zimmer. Wow, 365 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:22.720 and his brother Perry. 366 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:23.519 Wow. 367 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:29.480 He's fourteen years old, dude. The murders took place at 368 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:34.279 their farmhouse and mineral points. That's in Wisconsin. We'll get 369 00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:36.799 into the details. It's not like he's like a kid 370 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:38.720 and just took a gun and shot him. These are 371 00:20:38.759 --> 00:20:39.559 fucking brutal. 372 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:40.200 Oh damn. 373 00:20:41.039 --> 00:20:45.079 He shot his his dad five times. Sally Zimmer had 374 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:48.440 been stabbed multiple times and was later found in a shed. 375 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:51.960 Fuck Perry, who was only ten years old at the time, 376 00:20:52.119 --> 00:20:56.039 was stabbed more than twenty five times and had defensive wounds. 377 00:20:57.119 --> 00:20:59.880 After the murders, Peter fled the scene in his father's 378 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:01.200 are hashtag wo. 379 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:09.400 Man this one. Yeah, he fleed in the car. 380 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:14.599 They found him out the neighbors crash into the He 381 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:17.839 was quickly apprehended after using his father's credit card in 382 00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:19.319 Kansas City. 383 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:22.559 That's so, so he got to Kansas City. He's like, 384 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:23.559 I did, I got away. 385 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:24.960 Let's use dad's. 386 00:21:24.680 --> 00:21:29.799 Credit card, anything, the most traceable thing possible. 387 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:32.200 He's like the kid when he gets the blank check. 388 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:35.000 The hell Yeah dude, I didn't know that kid, like 389 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:36.000 it's so fucked up. 390 00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:39.400 Yeah, dude, he used to listen to his band. He 391 00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:40.240 used to be in a band. 392 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:43.000 Yeah, yeah, I didn't know. 393 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:49.680 He was basically like statutory raped and that the girl 394 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:51.680 was hot, but like kiss. 395 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:54.920 Especially if the directors like, all right, that was great, 396 00:21:54.960 --> 00:21:57.319 but let's get this. Let's shoot this scene one more time. 397 00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:04.880 Yeah yeah, this next one. Grab his duck. Yeah, and 398 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:09.279 for some reason say nice guys, finished last, throw that 399 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:09.759 out of there. 400 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:11.640 Yeah. 401 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:15.279