Speaker 1: What did you think about Spearman for Frome Batman? He
Speaker 1: wasn't in this movie? Really? Should we go back out
Speaker 1: there and watch some TV?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna replace Stylan?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna place Kirkland? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you going to place Taylor too?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So it's just gonna be you and me. Wah, that's
Speaker 1: pretty good, then.
Speaker 2: What's up? Flash Mob kind of looked like the original
Speaker 2: flash of that haircut though, a bit like I don't
Speaker 2: you're tall enough?
Speaker 1: Though? Oh me, looks like the original flash? Okay, I
Speaker 1: thought you meant Tony Ravioli. I'm I don't think so,
Speaker 1: he's like.
Speaker 4: Completed his last name actually Ravioli.
Speaker 1: It's Riviola or something, but that's Ravioli. That would be
Speaker 1: a sick lost Tony. Are you guys ready, Taylor Feccini?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tay Feccini Fields.
Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the two hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety fourth episode of the Gig First Pat Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm the Web Shooter Trass Now.
Speaker 2: I am the night Monkey Dylan Muss I am your
Speaker 2: friendly neighborhood caster Krookland past.
Speaker 3: I am even oh no, I butchered at fudge nuggets.
Speaker 3: Uh oh no, hang on, hang on, hang on, even dead.
Speaker 3: I'm the Taylor Field Okay, okay, I like my acronyms.
Speaker 3: I just want to say, Kirkling, your name has been
Speaker 3: so relevant. Like a lot lately, I've been like a lot.
Speaker 2: I foresaw this. I was like Figgy when he was
Speaker 2: making the first Iron Man. I just foresaw this, the
Speaker 2: whole full end game series.
Speaker 1: That's impressive. If you haven't guessed by the title or nicknames.
Speaker 1: We are reviewing Spider Man Far from Home. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do a review and then I'm gonna say three two one,
Speaker 1: Dylan's gonna say geek for his assemble, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna jump into spoilers. Before we get into that, we
Speaker 1: got tons of stuff coming up. We got the Tarantino
Speaker 1: retros starting this week and the first episode is launching,
Speaker 1: so if you've liked other retros, check that one out.
Speaker 1: Lots of fun. You know, we're very close to Once
Speaker 1: upon a Time in Hollywood. So that's the lead up
Speaker 1: you hat this month, So we'll be doing the retro
Speaker 1: that a rankings episode, you know, the classic what you
Speaker 1: expect in a retro geek goodness with some you know
Speaker 1: we're like five we have planned.
Speaker 4: It's really it's been a fun retro so far. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we're a lot of passion behind the conversations and you.
Speaker 1: Go, Patrion, get all those early right now, I think
Speaker 1: we've done. We've got three left. Yeah, we got three
Speaker 1: left still to do. But if not, you can get
Speaker 1: all of them. Yeah, almost all of them. I don't
Speaker 1: know why I said all of them five times row.
Speaker 1: So that's awesome. Wait for Hateful the big Thing. July nineteenth,
Speaker 1: our four year, twenty fourth anniversary Marvel Ultimate Lines three stream,
Speaker 1: cam Kong. We got tons of stuff going on that
Speaker 1: week in honk Honka's back, we're covering news, we got
Speaker 1: the Superhero draft, the third annual. Now I think we're
Speaker 1: at third, yeah, third one. So we got tons of
Speaker 1: contact that weekend. But the most importantly, we're doing a
Speaker 1: twenty four hour stream. It's gonna be tons of fun.
Speaker 1: Check it out. Marvel. The Lines were very excited. If
Speaker 1: you go to our social media, there's a very great
Speaker 1: poster that Taylor Field made very well, that's really good.
Speaker 1: And then it's up and running. The poster is up,
Speaker 1: it will be once this cast is live. God kind
Speaker 1: of like the official you know we've been talking about.
Speaker 1: This is the announcement. Go watch.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be tons of fun starting Friday morning ish.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we'll hit you at the exact time once
Speaker 1: we know. We got to just find out Coloonna and
Speaker 1: game stores and et cetera, et cetera. And then lastly,
Speaker 1: but not least, if you have you got about at
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Speaker 1: is are our next year. Next week is our four
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Speaker 3: I had a few things I need to say, Oh,
Speaker 3: Rod or not. Well, I've called RUBENETI again on that
Speaker 3: and he's like, yo, it's done, but there's things that
Speaker 3: needs to nitpick and finish. I'm like, okay, give me
Speaker 3: a time frame and he's like, I can't give you
Speaker 3: a time frame.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well shit, what else you got to promote? Another thing?
Speaker 1: I got to promote the X Men pull.
Speaker 3: You know, it's at the semifinal round right now, and
Speaker 3: finals are gonna be starting off here, and it's looking
Speaker 3: like I think we'll 'reen's gonna take the cake here. Boy,
Speaker 3: he's got a lead by like ten votes. I think
Speaker 3: against an hour and left Nellly an hour left, but
Speaker 3: after that it'll be Yeah, Magneto versus Dark Phoenix will
Speaker 3: be pretty crazy. Another thing I want to shut out.
Speaker 3: We are getting close to August. It is next month officially,
Speaker 3: and Colona Koma con officially will be happening, and geek
Speaker 3: ers will be there in some shape or form.
Speaker 1: I know Taylor's worried, but after July nineteenth, that will
Speaker 1: be the pin post for the entire month till Comic Fantastics.
Speaker 1: I know he's I know, I can see him over
Speaker 1: there is frothing at them mouth like why is it
Speaker 1: not the pin post? He we went to the Comic Con,
Speaker 1: got the announcement, what in like December, and he made
Speaker 1: that the pin posts. I'm like, August is December. Whenever
Speaker 1: you did it was like it was like over six
Speaker 1: months till the konic on you made the pin posts
Speaker 1: like we gotta wait, like end games out right now?
Speaker 1: I get that. And then lastly you can go check
Speaker 1: it out. But we said we would announced the winner
Speaker 1: here this Spider Man fan draft. I'm not geting doun
Speaker 1: to all the castings everything like that, go check out.
Speaker 1: That's the episode previous. But we picked seven characters that
Speaker 1: we'd like to see further than the MC castd Uh.
Speaker 1: It was a wild ride. There's some runaways, there's some
Speaker 1: i would say upsets, but so we had a big
Speaker 1: kind of tie across the board. You had Kirkland Pats
Speaker 1: who ran away the Jonah Pole and then hob Gone
Speaker 1: squeaked By. I'm not gonna say who did who they cast,
Speaker 1: that's why you go check out the cast. But you
Speaker 1: won the Jonan On hobgoone pole. Dylan won the Norman
Speaker 1: and the Uncle Ben one, which I was surprised. I
Speaker 1: had a nice lead there and then you took it.
Speaker 1: I had donc and Craven. So it was a nice
Speaker 1: three way tie because Taylor over here one black cat
Speaker 1: somehow until today, because somehow Dylan Musk took a nice
Speaker 1: lead and with only nine votes his black cat got
Speaker 1: the win. So with a two to two for me
Speaker 1: and Kirkland, Dylan muss up there with the three he
Speaker 1: won the Spiderman fan cast.
Speaker 4: That's take care three fans. Thank you to the fans
Speaker 4: because you guys gave me that win. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 4: win for all of us.
Speaker 1: I was pretty salty. I was like, woscept that three
Speaker 1: way tie? But yeah, you you you brings on the
Speaker 1: X Men one and then now the Spier one. So
Speaker 1: let's see one.
Speaker 4: We'll see a little more off the wall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but enough for play. Let's get an a spider
Speaker 1: Man homecoming ship. Spider Man far from Home from the homes,
Speaker 1: who wants tot off with their review non spoilers.
Speaker 4: I can start, I can start. I guess one more.
Speaker 4: One more thing to mention is obviously if you're on
Speaker 4: this cast, you're probably interested in Spider Man. We got
Speaker 4: you covered. We have retros for all of the All
Speaker 4: the Love Action movies, Toby and the other Guy's name,
Speaker 4: I forget, the nineties animated show, and the Spider Man game.
Speaker 4: So go check out all that stuff. If you want
Speaker 4: more Spider Man action, we have you covered.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: And so, as I just mentioned, like you know, I've
Speaker 4: spent a lot of time watching Spider Man stuff in
Speaker 4: the last couple of years and it's been a lot
Speaker 4: of fun. And Spider Man's really I mean, he has
Speaker 4: always been a character that I really like, but he's
Speaker 4: become one of my favorites just going through all this
Speaker 4: separate content, and Mysterio is one of my favorite villains
Speaker 4: from the animated show. Such a fun character, and I
Speaker 4: really want to Jake Jillenhill. So it's just like all
Speaker 4: the things I wanted were, you know, coming to fruition
Speaker 4: with this movie, and I would say I would say
Speaker 4: it lived up to it somewhat, but I have to
Speaker 4: say I am a bit disappointed in a few things
Speaker 4: with this movie. I think there's some like weird writing.
Speaker 4: There's some really weird choices, like uh, generally like the classmates,
Speaker 4: like you know, his friends, and like the teachers stuff.
Speaker 4: They have a lot of screen time in this movie,
Speaker 4: and I feel like there could have been some other
Speaker 4: stuff to go into had they chosen to, But instead
Speaker 4: they put a lot of focus on those characters, which
Speaker 4: I think is fine, Like is it mostly worked for me?
Speaker 4: But it just you gotta wonder if that was like
Speaker 4: what they should have done with the time they were given. Uh,
Speaker 4: there's a couple of characters that kind of fall a
Speaker 4: little short because of that. But I think the main
Speaker 4: thing that I was excited for is Mysterio, just to
Speaker 4: see what they're gonna do with this character. There is
Speaker 4: the trailer, like really I guess through different trailers, like
Speaker 4: there's so many different directions they could have taken the
Speaker 4: character and what they end up doing the movie, I
Speaker 4: was incredibly satisfied with. I love the character from like
Speaker 4: the effects and some of the scenes, but then also
Speaker 4: just like the character backstory and stuff. I just thought
Speaker 4: it was all really fun. I would say, like maybe
Speaker 4: the last like ten percent and the first ten percent
Speaker 4: of the character I wasn't a big fan of so
Speaker 4: like the very start, in the very end, but everything
Speaker 4: in the middle I really really liked so well, it
Speaker 4: wasn't like a perfect a perfect adaptation, I guess I
Speaker 4: was still really satisfied with it. As for our main man,
Speaker 4: Spidey himself, I think he was really fun in this movie,
Speaker 4: really really good progression for his character. But I guess
Speaker 4: just some of the relationships and the connections to him
Speaker 4: I felt were I don't know, maybe a little poorly
Speaker 4: done or a little underutilized, but overall I was pretty
Speaker 4: happy with it, still had fun watching it. I think
Speaker 4: it kind of it's very very close to Homecoming for me,
Speaker 4: Like Homecoming is a movie that, honestly, each time rewatch
Speaker 4: it doesn't really get better for me, It either like
Speaker 4: stays the same or like there's kind of I guess
Speaker 4: it's not as exciting as I want it to be,
Speaker 4: Like it's not as rewatchable as I would really hope
Speaker 4: it is, or as I would hope it should be
Speaker 4: for how much I like the Spider Man character. But
Speaker 4: I just find that there's some things in that movie
Speaker 4: that aren't really all interested, Like it's a very basic
Speaker 4: kind of story, and I think this one is a
Speaker 4: lot more interesting. And there's a lot in this movie that,
Speaker 4: like looking Forward, does some really interesting stuff for the
Speaker 4: world and the characters. So I'm really excited to see
Speaker 4: it going forward. But overall, I do have a few
Speaker 4: cons that go along with all the pros in this one,
Speaker 4: So I think I'm feeling I'm happy with it, and
Speaker 4: I'm definitely excited to rewatch. I think it will have
Speaker 4: more rewatchability than Homecoming if I had to base my
Speaker 4: prediction off of one viewing. But I think I just
Speaker 4: wanted a little bit more from my man Spidey, who
Speaker 4: I've spent so much time with in the last couple
Speaker 4: of years.
Speaker 2: Cool, I'll take it from there. Yeah, a little backstory quick.
Speaker 2: Spider Man's for always been my favorite superhero. I didn't
Speaker 2: watched like the nineties animate TV show like when I
Speaker 2: was growing up. I was mostly watching like the one
Speaker 2: from the sixties.
Speaker 1: Like cheese as Yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I just I remember waking up like right before school
Speaker 2: just so I could watch a few episodes of that.
Speaker 2: Like I just fell in love with it. The theme
Speaker 2: song is so iconic, and uh yeah, it was just awesome.
Speaker 2: But yeah, from that adaptation, I just grew. I just
Speaker 2: fell in love with that character. And here we are today,
Speaker 2: he's a part of the five universe and just but yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah if you throw in all like the recipes
Speaker 2: that they had in this movie of like Mysterio, which
Speaker 2: I didn't think I would ever see him in a
Speaker 2: live action Spider Man movie before, and I was just
Speaker 2: I was blown away, especially since we saw him like
Speaker 2: in the trailer. How they I'm really happy. Uh sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm getting ahead of myself, just as looking general and
Speaker 2: how they did the fish bowl, because like in the
Speaker 2: shut or in the comics, it's just like a white bowl,
Speaker 2: so it's like, how the hell would they do that
Speaker 2: in a show. But like I really liked that they
Speaker 2: did with like the fog or like the little like
Speaker 2: mysticism to it, and and uh yeah, I was just
Speaker 2: I was over the moon with Mysterio in general, just
Speaker 2: his look and everything about him. If you guys tune
Speaker 2: into Travis's and I cast a while ago, we were
Speaker 2: really speculating whether he was oh yeah, yeah, whether he
Speaker 2: was the main whether he was the main villain or not.
Speaker 2: I'll just uh, I'll do that. But uh and.
Speaker 1: You like where it went? I think maybe, yeah, exactly spoiler.
Speaker 2: And I'm like sweaty and I almost about Tom Holmand
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 1: Lose all our sponsors. Everybody's done. That was Near Life.
Speaker 1: Won't let us donate the money in November.
Speaker 4: We don't want throwing money.
Speaker 2: Our viewership just goes down. But no, just the movie
Speaker 2: in general, I thought it was lots of fun. I
Speaker 2: agree with Dylan. It's definitely like borderline Homecoming.
Speaker 4: For me.
Speaker 2: It's not a perfect Spider Man movie. And it's not
Speaker 2: my favorite Spider Man movie. And I don't even know
Speaker 2: if I can say it's like one of my favorite
Speaker 2: Spearman movies. But it's just Tom Holland is, in my eyes,
Speaker 2: the perfect Spider Man. It's the perfect casting. He is
Speaker 2: the perfect Peter Parker. He's the perfect Spider Man. When
Speaker 2: he's in the suit, he just says the perfect quips.
Speaker 2: He's got the queen's accent, he looks like he's sixteen.
Speaker 2: Like it's just so many, just so many things are
Speaker 2: perfect when it comes to that character for me, from
Speaker 2: my point of view, So I'm just over the moon
Speaker 2: anytime I get to see him in that suit and everything.
Speaker 2: So he just he carried it big time for me.
Speaker 2: And then Jake Jayleen Hall is mysterio. He was. He
Speaker 2: was definitely great. I was not disappointed whatsoever. I'm excited
Speaker 2: to go in to spoilers big time and.
Speaker 1: We can tell you yeah, I'm there.
Speaker 2: But overall, I definitely have some cons and we'll probably
Speaker 2: go into more of that once you guys do your overviews,
Speaker 2: your overalls, you know your overviews. But uh yeah, I was. Overall,
Speaker 2: I was really happy with this movie.
Speaker 5: And.
Speaker 1: I will go because you know, yeah, you always assume Taylor, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you never know. Uh so I think you know you
Speaker 1: know me if you're a longtime fan. If not, you
Speaker 1: gotta stay with me. But I love my analogies, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use one here. This movie is like a burger.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't eat me anymore, but a nice
Speaker 1: beyond meat burger. And the thing is, there's lots of
Speaker 1: great burger joints out there in the world. And let's
Speaker 1: say Spiderman Far from Home. As a wrestler, I went there.
Speaker 1: I ate it, I quite liked it, but it's not
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. It's not one that if I
Speaker 1: could pick anywhere to go, I'm gonna go to that one.
Speaker 1: It's like when you're traveling on the road and you're waiting,
Speaker 1: you're waiting, you're like, oh, I see, okay. I like
Speaker 1: that one. But it has some stuff in the burger
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, really nice ripe tomatoes, but they'll
Speaker 1: let us ound a little not so great or like
Speaker 1: that sauce. I use not the grace. It's not a
Speaker 1: prime burger. It doesn't have just a complete package. And
Speaker 1: that's what this is for me. I love things about
Speaker 1: this movie, but I don't love this movie. And I
Speaker 1: think it's now and I think there's two sides to
Speaker 1: the coin. There's one if I can full admit that,
Speaker 1: I think I'm just not a big fan of this
Speaker 1: adaptation of Spider Man. It's not to the extent of
Speaker 1: like a Jared Lettle joker. It's like, oh, this is awful.
Speaker 1: It's just they do things that, hey, it's not really
Speaker 1: for me, or they do things I've said this a
Speaker 1: million time. I'm sorry, but I just feel like they
Speaker 1: do things to just really try to be different, and
Speaker 1: sometimes I think it hurts them. So that's one thing
Speaker 1: flat out where I think some stuff they do do
Speaker 1: very well, but I'm just not a fan of it.
Speaker 1: But then on the flip side, there's stuff that whether
Speaker 1: it is the new adaption or whether it's just old
Speaker 1: school stuff that they don't really do well, and there's
Speaker 1: some kind of lazy writing in this movie and it's
Speaker 1: kind of weird. Then I don't know if I chalk
Speaker 1: that up to being a Sony partnership as well, because
Speaker 1: it sometimes feels like it's not an MCU. It feels
Speaker 1: like those Spider Man of even Maguire and Garfield, just like, oh,
Speaker 1: that didn't make sense to that, Like even Venom like
Speaker 1: stuff when you're like, why would they do this? And
Speaker 1: that's what I feel. This is nowhere near the quality
Speaker 1: of Venom, But it's just like this things that I
Speaker 1: feel that are usually the MCU is so tight and
Speaker 1: put together. This didn't have that For some pros. Tom
Speaker 1: Holland he's perfect, He's I wish I could take him
Speaker 1: and put him in those Toby movies, even though the
Speaker 1: Toby movies are not perfect, but just like I'd love
Speaker 1: to see him in these ones because I just obviously
Speaker 1: I prefer most of those. But he's perfect, he does
Speaker 1: everything well. Ultimate Spiderman is my favorite Spiderman in the
Speaker 1: car and he's kind of that vain so he pulls
Speaker 1: off that in the Peter Parker so well, we've talked
Speaker 1: about him and since Civil War, so there's not much
Speaker 1: more to say on him other than just he knocks
Speaker 1: out of the park again. He's fantastic. It's funny that
Speaker 1: this movie has a theme of they want him to
Speaker 1: be the new Iron Man, because it does feel like
Speaker 1: that where Iron Man's soul films for me are not
Speaker 1: that great other than the first one, and then I
Speaker 1: love him in the Team um Ups. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of what I have with Spider Man, where I love
Speaker 1: him in Cilar, I love him in Finny War. But
Speaker 1: the movies are They're good. They're not awful. I really,
Speaker 1: and I know I'm gonna sound negative. I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: parts of this movie and love especially the second half.
Speaker 1: I feel the second half it's really strongest movie. The
Speaker 1: first half. I feel they either, like what Dale was saying,
Speaker 1: they could have focused on some stuff or they could
Speaker 1: have just cut some stuff. I know, like this movie.
Speaker 1: This movie is only two hours, but that beginning and
Speaker 1: I'm something that likes slow stuff, but it felt slow.
Speaker 1: It dragged for quite a while, and I think the
Speaker 1: other thing that sucks for me is the humor didn't
Speaker 1: hit as much. So I think if you found almost
Speaker 1: the humor, I think.
Speaker 4: They used the same joke a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like if you liked humor, then
Speaker 1: the beginning wasn't slow because you were laughing so much.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I'm the same as these two
Speaker 1: over here where it's so tough to me at place
Speaker 1: against Homecoming because there's things I really like about Homecoming
Speaker 1: and dislike and it's almost the reverse in this one,
Speaker 1: because I find Homecoming way more funnier than this. But
Speaker 1: then the romance and this is way better than anything
Speaker 1: that happened in Homecoming. Mysterio they did perfect. But then
Speaker 1: I also think Keen's performance is a bit better, just
Speaker 1: because I think he had some more media stuff. But
Speaker 1: then Mysterio as an entity is perfect. I don't know when,
Speaker 1: but I think whenever we start this podcast, I've been
Speaker 1: talking about years I've want to see Mystereia Masterio is
Speaker 1: one of my favorites, and that's thing. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I will rewatch this movie a bunch
Speaker 1: because they gave me what I feel is pretty much
Speaker 1: a perfect adaption of what i'd want mysteria, and they
Speaker 1: could have went many routes, but they just knocked that
Speaker 1: out of the park. So there is some great things
Speaker 1: in here. I made a list of any nonspoiler stuff.
Speaker 1: Martin sorry plays a teacher. I just love that character
Speaker 1: so much. A kind of spoilers, but he's just so good.
Speaker 1: I won't say that's maybe it's a bit too spoilery.
Speaker 1: I love the well. I won't say. I liked the
Speaker 1: score a lot better this one than the first one.
Speaker 1: I'm still not a fan. It's still lower tier. Put
Speaker 1: the everything, the game, the movies Raymie and Maguire up there,
Speaker 1: and Garfield, but this one actually has tracks. I'm listening to,
Speaker 1: specifically mysterious theme. It's great. Anytime he'd show up, fantastic.
Speaker 1: I was bike riding to today. Let's see anything else. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think anything else non spoiler. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: enjoyed the movie quite a bit, but I didn't love
Speaker 1: a lot of things in here. And there was some
Speaker 1: kind of lazy writing, poor editing. And this is very hyperbolic,
Speaker 1: but it does make me a little worried with the
Speaker 1: X Men coming because I just kind of worre I
Speaker 1: love X Men so much, and I'm you know, I
Speaker 1: don't want to get this treatment where it's like we
Speaker 1: gotta be different or we gotta do this, and you know,
Speaker 1: and and Spider Man it's not as important as X Men,
Speaker 1: but he's one of my favorite characters. If you don't know,
Speaker 1: I have my daughter is named after a Spider Man character.
Speaker 1: So I love Spider Man and this name is Peter. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's gonna hate me when she's older. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: I enjoyed this movie. Again, it's when I will rewatch
Speaker 1: in the future, and I would not It's not the
Speaker 1: worst Spider Man by far, but it's definitely not the best.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to getting to spoilers be more specific
Speaker 1: about my problems. So, but definitely kind of that mid
Speaker 1: mid lower tier MCU for me. And we're going to
Speaker 1: do a rankings episode for Comic Con. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: called the Infindy Saga. So Taylor take us away in
Speaker 1: this non spoilers, so I'm gonna earlier.
Speaker 3: I don't think it was on the cast, but I
Speaker 3: said I'd one up Kirkland's story here so for a
Speaker 3: theater experience, Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2: I didn't actually mention my story for the viewers.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, I mentioned it real quick.
Speaker 2: Super annoying, Yeah, super annoying preteens that were just talking
Speaker 2: journal so me, yeah, exactly. Thank you for summing that
Speaker 2: up real quick.
Speaker 4: You got a timber in your mouth, so I'm trying
Speaker 4: to help.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I should just let you talk for me, just let
Speaker 1: you drown over there.
Speaker 3: So the theater was pretty packed, and me and Madison,
Speaker 3: you know, we're sitting there and just there's people in
Speaker 3: the theater. You just know in the previews that they're
Speaker 3: going to be talking, you know, you can just you
Speaker 3: can tell.
Speaker 1: And there was a group of three of them. There
Speaker 1: was two girls, one guy.
Speaker 3: They're about fifteen years old or something like that, and
Speaker 3: you know, you just I think, in you know, the
Speaker 3: first opening kind of period for Marvel movie, these you
Speaker 3: don't piss off the fans. There's diehards in the theater,
Speaker 3: and I could sense it. But I I knew, like, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to probably say something of these kids
Speaker 3: just how it goes, and uh, when the the lights
Speaker 3: dimmed and the opening scene popped in literally within five seconds.
Speaker 3: They were still chatting, and the guy in front of them,
Speaker 3: he's got his glasses on everything. He immediately turns around
Speaker 3: and says, can you shut the fuck up?
Speaker 1: Please?
Speaker 3: Can you please shut the fuck up? And I did
Speaker 3: you not people? Some guy in the top leg oh yeah,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, guy emphasized the he did.
Speaker 1: He did. He was laying it out.
Speaker 3: He said fuck three times, told him to shut up,
Speaker 3: like or be quiet, like can you guys shut the
Speaker 3: or yeah, can you guys shut the fuck up?
Speaker 1: Please?
Speaker 3: He had it, please he said a few times. And
Speaker 3: then we got buddy in the back corner going, another
Speaker 3: guy back right going shut up. It was a whole
Speaker 3: conjoint effort, like Avengers assemble in the theater, let's go.
Speaker 3: They stopped talking, they shut their traps.
Speaker 2: So it was a little too aggressive for me.
Speaker 4: I feel like, how old was that guy do you
Speaker 4: think in the in front of them who said to
Speaker 4: shut the fuck up?
Speaker 1: He was probably like mid twenties, late twenties.
Speaker 2: I was pushing like a fifty year old man.
Speaker 3: No, No, he was young. He was not having any of
Speaker 3: their shenanigans, you know.
Speaker 4: It was Tom Hollins Brothers like guys.
Speaker 1: It was it was just it was great. It was
Speaker 1: it was really funny. Do you think of the movie? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the movie?
Speaker 4: Uh who did you ever get over that? Or were
Speaker 4: you just fueled with three whole time?
Speaker 1: Look at that? What the guy did?
Speaker 4: I don't know, just the whole scene in general, Like
Speaker 4: you really set the set, the you gave me like
Speaker 4: a full scale of the entire room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved it. I just had a big smile
Speaker 1: on my face. So nice. Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 2: I definitely went up my story. So thanks for shure.
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to.
Speaker 4: But I don't think I've ever had like like I've
Speaker 4: had very passive aggressive sh like very loudly. But I
Speaker 4: think it's different than just saying you shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was right because the kids were in front of
Speaker 3: and the road right in front, and then he was
Speaker 3: in the road right there, right in front. So when
Speaker 3: he turned around, like you had the fully emergen, full
Speaker 3: immersion experience, I had the three D glasses on, so
Speaker 3: it was like even like he was you could.
Speaker 4: Smell his piano. He's just raging at these fifteen year olds.
Speaker 2: Oh, no.
Speaker 1: But yeah, for the movie itself, I have to say
Speaker 1: that it just it blew me away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I absolutely just fell in love with this movie.
Speaker 1: It for me, it topped Homecoming.
Speaker 4: And you're a big Homecoming fan, the big I'm a
Speaker 4: big Homecoming.
Speaker 1: Fan, yeah big.
Speaker 3: Uh it's uh, It's just I loved everything about it.
Speaker 3: Mysterial blew me away with what they did, and uh,
Speaker 3: you spider Man Tom Holland blew me away.
Speaker 1: I love Ned.
Speaker 3: He's one of my favorites in the MCU, and he
Speaker 3: was just great in this movie, just so much. I
Speaker 3: didn't mind the the you know, the teacher stuff just there.
Speaker 3: There was so much in it and the story and
Speaker 3: everything that I loved, and I just.
Speaker 1: It's not really do you feel.
Speaker 2: Like you loved the movie so much that the parts
Speaker 2: that might have been weaker you didn't really care, like
Speaker 2: you didn't they just kind of.
Speaker 3: It's water under the bridge, Yeah, it water under the
Speaker 3: bridge didn't bother me. A lot of the human water,
Speaker 3: A lot of water, A lot of water under the
Speaker 3: London Bridge.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I I.
Speaker 2: Heard that rattled my ear.
Speaker 1: Would you please shut the fuck up? Like, please, please please?
Speaker 3: But there I just there was so much about this
Speaker 3: movie I loved, and as I was walking on the theater,
Speaker 3: I thought, I looked for my madis and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I need to see this movie again, you know, and
Speaker 3: it's gonna be again one of those two dozen times
Speaker 3: I watched this.
Speaker 1: You know, this movie, it's a given.
Speaker 3: And with the with the Marvel ranking coming up soon,
Speaker 3: like I already know where I'm gonna put this movie.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a dangerous rank. I don't know, you
Speaker 3: have to stay tuned whiplash. But it's just it was such.
Speaker 1: A good movie.
Speaker 3: I I I never really could figure out like how
Speaker 3: they would represent mysterial on the big screen. But like,
Speaker 3: I'm glad I didn't like think too much at this
Speaker 3: point because you everyone could have read too much into it,
Speaker 3: like a mysterio is this or that and this.
Speaker 1: But it's like at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: just like, no, just go in.
Speaker 3: Don't don't try and figure him out, you know, just
Speaker 3: going in, enjoy the ride.
Speaker 2: I seriously wish that I didn't watch the trailer before
Speaker 2: this movie. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go hard on
Speaker 2: my biggest erk of this entire movie.
Speaker 1: I think I know. Yeah, it's a second. It's like
Speaker 1: they did this Homecoming too. I'm gonna from trailer. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe when we may.
Speaker 4: I think I might know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's tough because I want to say, like we have
Speaker 1: this rule at the beginning of the year, we do
Speaker 1: our twenty whatever the year is preview, and now we
Speaker 1: make this rule that we can pick one movie not
Speaker 1: do your trailer. I'd pick an experiment, but it's so
Speaker 1: tough for the podcast not to do that. So so
Speaker 1: he just has to get better.
Speaker 4: When you're that contract with Marvel that we need to
Speaker 4: talk about all their stuff.
Speaker 2: And rave and love, you will stop the funds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lots. If you ask the.
Speaker 4: Hunk Hunker boys, Oh yeah, they there's something else.
Speaker 5: You're gonna get an ad break and then you're gonna
Speaker 5: be right back to the episode.
Speaker 1: Anything else, Taylor, No, I'm just really wondering what you're
Speaker 1: talking about right now. It's pretty always we can we can,
Speaker 1: you know, swing right in sole, gentlemen, this is your
Speaker 1: last chance. I think we'd all recommend it to a
Speaker 1: certain point of view. Yeah, we didn't actually mention that,
Speaker 1: but I would say, you know what you're getting with
Speaker 1: MCU like that's why I don't really do them, because
Speaker 1: if you don't like the MCU, you don't like this
Speaker 1: Spider Man, know, you.
Speaker 4: Want to see Mysterios Bologna on the Big Stroy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell the thing with like the whole this
Speaker 2: adaptation of like Spider Man, Tom holand Sweater and whatever
Speaker 2: you call it. It's definitely like a tone down from
Speaker 2: like something like Avengers in Finney War Endgame, especially since
Speaker 2: those are more serious tone like this is just more
Speaker 2: light heart, you know, which is like a fun like
Speaker 2: there's definitely like a different type of humor than we
Speaker 2: had in those Avengers movies. And it's just I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know the right word to say for I
Speaker 2: want to say it's more like kiddish, but it's not
Speaker 2: really because it's kind of like.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it serves as an effective like epilogue
Speaker 4: right to this saga. It's like a nice, like happy
Speaker 4: note at that end.
Speaker 1: Of yeah that is maybe not kitty but teeny like
Speaker 1: those pretty teeny yeah yeah, those girls and so many Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's also more like lighthearted as opposed to the emotional
Speaker 2: torture we went through Avengers.
Speaker 1: Loss exactly like breath of fresh air of like, oh,
Speaker 1: things are gonna be okay, and then it's a great
Speaker 1: exam stuff happens. All right, this is your last chance.
Speaker 1: We're getting the spoilers three to one gig versus So, yes,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that Kirk is off.
Speaker 2: Just so, My biggest of this entire movie didn't even
Speaker 2: happen in the movie. It was actually the trailer that
Speaker 2: MJ revealed that she knew that Peter was Spider Man,
Speaker 2: and it felt so incredibly unnecessary at the time, and
Speaker 2: I remember seeing that we broke it down on the
Speaker 2: cast that we had. I was really hoping that it
Speaker 2: was just kind of a joke, like she was like
Speaker 2: just kidding around, which, like, I guess it could happen
Speaker 2: with that character. She's kind of I don't know, she's
Speaker 2: got a weird thing. Yeah, yeah, exactly, So like I
Speaker 2: was really hoping that that would be the case. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: it wasn't exact same It was the exact same scene
Speaker 2: and it takes a bit longer, but I was gonna say,
Speaker 2: like the way that they handled in the movie, I
Speaker 2: was actually really ok with. I was really happy. I
Speaker 2: like that it didn't happen right away. It like I
Speaker 2: was just, yeah, it was so frustrating have that in
Speaker 2: the back of my mind because throughout the movie he's
Speaker 2: doing some pretty like sketchy things of not being like
Speaker 2: a Cape crusader you could call him. And uh it
Speaker 2: was I was like, Okay, this might be a part
Speaker 2: where she kind of sees like or she's trying to
Speaker 2: figure it out, and like when she actually does figure
Speaker 2: it out, she wasn't a hundred percent sure, sixty seven
Speaker 2: percent sure. And I like how they kind of explained
Speaker 2: like she like she figured it out on her own,
Speaker 2: but I already knew that.
Speaker 1: And tiler that Sony put out seeing there on that
Speaker 1: bridge might oh here it comes exactly. It's not even
Speaker 1: like the Figy like Tricker remarkt where it's like all
Speaker 1: hulks in the scene. No he's not. It's just like,
Speaker 1: and especially my always complains been that that's not a
Speaker 1: thing you need to reveal. I almost would understand pre
Speaker 1: endgame and f anywhere, But it's just like they're dealing
Speaker 1: with mysterio, they're dealing with Tony's death, they're dealing with
Speaker 1: now the blip, Like there's so much stuff. It's just
Speaker 1: they shoot themselves in the foot for no reason because
Speaker 1: the whole movie I thought, Oh, it's common, it's common,
Speaker 1: it's coming. And then it's just felt when I'm watching
Speaker 1: it's so honest that she is gonna find out, which
Speaker 1: is fine because we'll talk about like the very end.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: There's a couple of things that change it for me.
Speaker 4: One is I like, like, there's so many of these
Speaker 4: comic movies where it's like, now, how do these people
Speaker 4: not figure out that this guy's clearly like Clark, like
Speaker 4: he's clearly Superman or something, right, But and she just
Speaker 4: lays it out like in that sense, it's like you're
Speaker 4: always going like you always go missing as soon as
Speaker 4: you show up. So I like the way she plotted
Speaker 4: out because it's like and it always kind of kind
Speaker 4: of bugs me and back ahead movies, it's like, clearly
Speaker 4: this guy is the superhero. It's like the hand of
Speaker 4: Montana thing. You know, clearly that's Hannah Montana, like very
Speaker 4: much obvious.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent agree with that. And like I said, like,
Speaker 2: I am really happy with the way that they took
Speaker 2: it in the movie, but it just killed me having
Speaker 2: that revealed in the trailer. I will never understand why
Speaker 2: they did that, Like it's just such a new serm
Speaker 2: because you can.
Speaker 4: Still have it where she figures it out, but you
Speaker 4: don't need to have that conversation or maybe she like
Speaker 4: hints at it or is like teasing him or something,
Speaker 4: and then maybe it doesn't get revealed until the end
Speaker 4: of the movie because it would have had been revealed
Speaker 4: in movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Either way, if I hadn't seen in the trailer, I
Speaker 2: would have I would have been unsure. I would have
Speaker 2: been is she gonna find out? Like who else is
Speaker 2: going to figure out? Like obviously it is, like it
Speaker 2: is pretty obvious, And I did like that the way
Speaker 2: she broke it down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just super I think maybe really, when you think about,
Speaker 4: like one of the reasons they maybe had to do
Speaker 4: it is because they don't have a ton of scenes together. Yeah,
Speaker 4: those two because because the I mean the point of
Speaker 4: it is that like he kind of has to do
Speaker 4: all this ship and he can't be with her and
Speaker 4: then there's like this love triangle thing going on. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I guess that's maybe whise they didn't have like
Speaker 4: other great scenes. But also it's just like Sony, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're fucking weird ass marketing.
Speaker 2: See, yeah, that's the big thing, because I remember when
Speaker 2: I first saw the trailer, I was really unhappy with
Speaker 2: I'm like, how can Marvel make that mistake? Like they're
Speaker 2: still good at making trailers. And then you guys brought
Speaker 2: to my attention that it's actually Sony in charge like
Speaker 2: the marketing for the movie and everything, and I was
Speaker 2: just like, oh, yeah, Big Taylor could do much better.
Speaker 2: He has, he has he made.
Speaker 4: You know, there may or may not be a Spider
Speaker 4: Man on a very poster that he may or may
Speaker 4: not have made. It looks better than.
Speaker 2: Great poster, shouts out of tailor.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lay down another trailer thing on you hair. Sure,
Speaker 3: So this isn't actually this is a ok.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So in the trailer, you see Spider Man in the
Speaker 3: what's the what's the nano suit that he has? What's
Speaker 3: it called again, the Iron suit? Yeah, the Iron suit,
Speaker 3: Iron Spider suit.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So we see him actually taking out criminals and he
Speaker 3: actually like talks and makes a joke to the cops.
Speaker 1: That whole scene was cut out of the movie. Well,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of scenes. There's a scene where Feury
Speaker 1: says the snap bike created the mansion, like a tear
Speaker 1: in the dimension and whatnot.
Speaker 3: So they took out a lot of the last thing
Speaker 3: I'm okay with, but I wanted to see Iron Spider
Speaker 3: fight and do some stuff, and.
Speaker 2: I forgot about that scene.
Speaker 4: You see him open a curtain with Iron Spider.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with an actual plot point being taken out,
Speaker 1: but a fight scene, Oh, I should have been there there.
Speaker 1: It was probably a good looking fight scene, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, as far as like that the trailer,
Speaker 1: that sucks. But at least with m J and Peter,
Speaker 1: I really liked where they went with that, and I
Speaker 1: especially because I wasn't sure how I was going to
Speaker 1: feel about her as MJ after Homecoming?
Speaker 2: Did you like her more than this?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, because she's very one note, she's just kind
Speaker 1: of there. And then it was also the like the
Speaker 1: rush of dealing with Okay, this is MJ now and
Speaker 1: it's not. It's just a really different take and everything
Speaker 1: like that. So I end up liking that they flushed
Speaker 1: her out. You got a lot more scenes with them,
Speaker 1: So I really like that because I remember the romance
Speaker 1: between Peter and Liz and Homecoming super weak, and it
Speaker 1: is supposed to be like high schooling, but when you
Speaker 1: compare to like Toby and Uh and j which is
Speaker 1: not the grace, but still and then Andrew and Emmastone,
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh and now this is like the
Speaker 1: laying of the foundations. But I liked them all. I
Speaker 1: liked her, kind of like her reasoning for the way
Speaker 1: she is and whatnot him liking her for being weird
Speaker 1: and dark, and all their scenes and just when it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know this bridge was used to X execute people,
Speaker 1: they would just you know, would drown them in buckets,
Speaker 1: and it's like they really flushed her. They didn't flush
Speaker 1: her out to like to be this great, great character.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was the Jim. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: building stages where I think we're go get more. Even
Speaker 1: down to their first awkward kiss was great. It's very
Speaker 1: high school. So yeah, I went. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I did a full one to eighty, but maybe like
Speaker 1: a one because I didn't dislike her, but I was
Speaker 1: kind of thinking it could be kind of annoying too.
Speaker 1: And I think if they wouldn't have done more with
Speaker 1: her the way she wasn't homecoming, I would have been
Speaker 1: annoyed because she was just one note. She's just a joke,
Speaker 1: a joke, a joke, and we actually get to see
Speaker 1: her be emotion on her figure out. Peter was aspier.
Speaker 1: Man was good. Trailer kind of ruined it, but that
Speaker 1: was I like the way they did it. And she
Speaker 1: kicked some button here too. Gets yea. I really liked
Speaker 1: him and I'm excited to see more.
Speaker 2: That's a good point because I feel like in Homecoming,
Speaker 2: I wasn't really sure how I felt about her just
Speaker 2: because she wasn't really like she didn't have anything to
Speaker 2: do much about it, right, it was like the love
Speaker 2: interest in them. It was Liz, and then she was
Speaker 2: just kind of like the weird kid. Yeah, exactly, so
Speaker 2: I definitely and like I was, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: felt like I was kind of unsure on her because
Speaker 2: I was just like, it's not like I don't like her,
Speaker 2: because there's no real reason for me not like her.
Speaker 2: I haven't really seen much about her. They haven't killed
Speaker 2: that kid.
Speaker 4: It's just like very distant exactly that we know.
Speaker 2: But this one, I really like. They're super awkward, like dynamics,
Speaker 2: and then just all of her comment her her witty
Speaker 2: comments is pretty good and uh, I just really like
Speaker 2: that character.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I I thought there was some good moments
Speaker 4: to the comedy of like the love triangle aspect with
Speaker 4: do you remember the guy's name? The other guy? I
Speaker 4: think they I think they maybe over dead Davis. That's
Speaker 4: one of the jokes I was talking about where they
Speaker 4: like us the same joke kind of multiple times. But
Speaker 4: I think there was some good comedy to be had there,
Speaker 4: Like even when they're just like leaving the hotel and
Speaker 4: he's just like sitting on the couch and like looking
Speaker 4: up like it's a very quick shot, but I thought
Speaker 4: he was, like, I mean, it wasn't really like a
Speaker 4: love trunckle, didn't feel like one, even though it's kind
Speaker 4: of what it was on paper. But I thought that
Speaker 4: was like a fun element to it, I guess, And
Speaker 4: I mean it was. It was funny just to see,
Speaker 4: like obviously this movie addresses like what happened, what happens
Speaker 4: like after the snap, right like where some people age
Speaker 4: some people don't, and that's kind of like a funny
Speaker 4: scenario that would happen, and it did. So it was
Speaker 4: kind of it was cool.
Speaker 2: To see that because like they're playing dodgeball and the
Speaker 2: band just comes back.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was fun. Yeah, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: loved the Vario, not the Verial, but like the newscast thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just that I just don't know if I'm ready
Speaker 1: to have those heroes be their death because meet it
Speaker 1: at this point. So I kind of it grew on me.
Speaker 1: But it was a little like, okay, it's a wound
Speaker 1: is still fresh for Travis. Well, yeah, it's just I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's a little strange. But I like
Speaker 1: those little news things and I like Betty Brant being
Speaker 1: around and whatnot. That was the joke that over did
Speaker 1: it for me. I liked her and ned but eventually.
Speaker 4: Was yeah, it was the same thing.
Speaker 1: I had enough and it was I liked the setup
Speaker 1: of it because it is like that happens in high
Speaker 1: school all the time, like things like that, just like
Speaker 1: a summer love right and like very relatable thing and
Speaker 1: couldn't really no, I couldn't.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I once stated a girl because she stole my pencil
Speaker 1: because school, because it's a reason, so blackmail. But I
Speaker 1: actually did like her, but a long story, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's a relatable for me. That isn't no prep that's
Speaker 1: that's a long afternoon.
Speaker 4: I want to say it like I was.
Speaker 1: I liked that setup of like, oh, they just fell
Speaker 1: for each other, but then it was just way too much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. I mean, the reason that pops
Speaker 4: up is because they needed something for Ned to do
Speaker 4: in this movie. So that's why I don't like it,
Speaker 4: is because it didn't feel genuine didn't feel like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we have a good idea with Ned, let's go with
Speaker 4: this storyline. He just felt more like we'll just make
Speaker 4: him like, you know, have this kind of ongoing joke
Speaker 4: because in the first movie, he's like helping out a lot.
Speaker 4: He's the guy in the chair, right, He's doing this stuff.
Speaker 4: He even like gets the webshooter at one point and
Speaker 4: like takes out Chalker, helps helps Peter take Chalker down, right,
Speaker 4: But you don't get any of that. He's useless in
Speaker 4: this movie, right, He's just sitting around. He's like the
Speaker 4: damsel in distress in the in the ferris wheel, and
Speaker 4: then the same thing at the very end of the
Speaker 4: movie when the robots are coming in to get them
Speaker 4: in like the armory. So he doesn't do anything in
Speaker 4: this movie. He's just kind of relegated to a comedic
Speaker 4: relief character. That's why I was kind of let down
Speaker 4: by him, because, yeah, he actually had something to do
Speaker 4: in the first movie. In this time around, it seemed
Speaker 4: like they were like struggling to find something for him
Speaker 4: to do, so they just gave him this other storyline,
Speaker 4: and I think there was some good Like I did
Speaker 4: laugh at a few of the instances of that relationship
Speaker 4: because I just think his dialogue is funny. He's good
Speaker 4: delivering the lines. But like that, like if MJ went
Speaker 4: from a like flat character to a dynamic character, he
Speaker 4: did the opposite, which is kind of my I mean,
Speaker 4: he didn't have like a lot of layers in the
Speaker 4: first movie even but at least he had like he
Speaker 4: actually had an impact on the plot somewhat, So.
Speaker 2: It's a good point. Yeah, yeah, no, I I don't know.
Speaker 2: I felt like, especially since I just saw it like
Speaker 2: less than twenty four hours ago, it's still still need
Speaker 2: to process some things. But uh no, it definitely makes
Speaker 2: a lot more sense. I was a little disappointed that
Speaker 2: he wasn't more like the guy on the chair or
Speaker 2: like the guy in Peter's ear, you know, just like
Speaker 2: helping him out behind the scenes. It was more of
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, you guys should go to the opera. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a great idea. I'm totally down.
Speaker 4: And it's like hard to envision how with like the
Speaker 4: story they went with, like how Ned would have helped,
Speaker 4: Like how would he have fit in, especially when he
Speaker 4: has when Peter has like Shield working for him or
Speaker 4: like doing the computer stuff. So it like it wouldn't
Speaker 4: have made sense, no, but it's still like you gotta
Speaker 4: consider it. Like I guess I.
Speaker 2: Could definitely see in it just being from like a
Speaker 2: writer's standpoints, like I don't really know what we should
Speaker 2: do with this character. This is just give him like
Speaker 2: a summer flaing thing, which, like it definitely like I
Speaker 2: definitely laughed at a lot of that humor, and it
Speaker 2: was pretty funny how it set up, Like yeah, like
Speaker 2: the whole plan that they were gonna switch that Peter
Speaker 2: and MJ could sit next to each other and they
Speaker 2: just totally it was great. Yeah, it was like I
Speaker 2: really liked like that little uh, that little h like
Speaker 2: scene of the plane stuff.
Speaker 4: That was funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's like not even that, but that's the
Speaker 1: stuff which is MJ and Peter. There they had good chemistry.
Speaker 1: But I loved all the kind of high school romance
Speaker 1: stuff of trying to talk to the idea that was
Speaker 1: done so well, where in the first one it was
Speaker 1: just hey, Liz, you want to go to the dance?
Speaker 1: Oh sure, they've had no conversations like why do you
Speaker 1: want to go? You know, it was just very and
Speaker 1: that can be high school too. But I liked the
Speaker 1: way like it was a fun kind of cat and mouse,
Speaker 1: Oh will they won't they? And I liked how that
Speaker 1: was portrayed. And maybe it's a hot take, but I
Speaker 1: was actually happy with what they did with Ned because
Speaker 1: I'm not really a big Ned fan, so I was
Speaker 1: actually kind of happy they benched him because it's kind
Speaker 1: of like my my thor Red Rockets, Like I know,
Speaker 1: it actually makes any sense.
Speaker 4: I feel like he had like almost the stam on
Speaker 4: a screen time though may I.
Speaker 1: Think he was around a lot, but I feel like
Speaker 1: Inspirament and Homecoming, he was just talking a lot more.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I'm you know, that's just the first
Speaker 1: thing I find them being benched. And maybe he's benched
Speaker 1: again in the third one. Oh yeah, yeah, let's see
Speaker 1: what you have anything to say on the romance, especially
Speaker 1: Ned as well.
Speaker 4: You're a big Ned guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm all about Ned. I think he's just he's fantastic.
Speaker 3: I love his humor. I just he's great. He's just cheery,
Speaker 3: and you know, I enjoy that. Yeah, the romance, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 3: I didn't have a much of a romantic life in
Speaker 3: high school. So but you know, I mean, this is
Speaker 3: the twenty first century and these kids are popping off.
Speaker 2: So that's not how I thought another afternoon contact.
Speaker 1: But no, it was compared to the first one.
Speaker 3: The first one is definitely like that that awkward kinda
Speaker 3: I don't know, you guys seen that commercial that comes
Speaker 3: before the movies where the kid drinks the iced tea
Speaker 3: and he gets the confidence and he goes to talk
Speaker 3: to the girl and he doesn't and it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't got the confidence and he sits back down.
Speaker 3: I felt like that was the romance in the first
Speaker 3: Spider Man Homecoming.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: And now in this he's drank two ice teas and
Speaker 1: he's good to go. Well understand, because I don't even
Speaker 1: I understood.
Speaker 4: And it might be a Canadian one only as.
Speaker 2: Well I think it is.
Speaker 1: It might be Yeah, probably.
Speaker 3: Kind of, but you know it's I definitely like how
Speaker 3: it kind of built up and he was trying to
Speaker 3: get to that kind of moment just to talk with her, and.
Speaker 1: I loved I loved it so much.
Speaker 3: When he's like, I thought that was Pepper Potts in
Speaker 3: in uh that Prague or whatever, a.
Speaker 1: Little small village.
Speaker 3: They stopped him and you see the blonde or whatever
Speaker 3: in the doorway, I was like, is that Pepper? And
Speaker 3: he goes in there and she's then I'm like, that's
Speaker 3: Pepper Potts.
Speaker 1: That's Pepper Potts, and do please, please please.
Speaker 3: But I love that scene where he's taking his clothes
Speaker 3: off and the guy just comes in and just takes
Speaker 3: the picture.
Speaker 1: Fucking Brad, But yeah, I thought I thought that was funny.
Speaker 3: The whole ordeal between him and uh Peter Parker. I
Speaker 3: thought that was pretty good because, yeah, Brad just he
Speaker 3: kind of bothered me. It's like MJ has the right
Speaker 3: to know. She deserves to know the truth.
Speaker 1: Trying.
Speaker 3: That's how being a hero, that's how you make enemies,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean that could have been That's like
Speaker 3: the equivalent to Aldridge Kensing Aldridge iron Man's Alderge Kensington
Speaker 3: on the really Chillington Kensington.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just quickly going back to the uh uh.
Speaker 1: The Aldridge Killian is that real name? Yes, I'll never
Speaker 1: remember what's his name? Killian? Okay Alex which this movie
Speaker 1: I'll bring up is very much like Iron Man.
Speaker 2: Three, just going back to I actually don't think I've
Speaker 2: finished Iron Man three.
Speaker 1: How are you gonna rank it at Comic Con?
Speaker 2: I'll watch it YouTube.
Speaker 1: Man, he's not.
Speaker 4: Watch on YouTube.
Speaker 1: It's such a fucking lie. Every day I'm gonna say, oh,
Speaker 1: have you watched I Won three yet? And you watch
Speaker 1: that in three.
Speaker 5: Yet, you're gonna get an ad break and then you're
Speaker 5: gonna be right back to the episode.
Speaker 2: All right. But back to the plane scene. I really like,
Speaker 2: uh like how the plan just goes totally upside down
Speaker 2: and then like the way that they used like that
Speaker 2: the teacher with it too, and he's just like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: he's like perfume allergies are released. Like that whole character.
Speaker 2: I just really like.
Speaker 4: Talked about his wife.
Speaker 1: I tell you about my wife. She pretend she was
Speaker 1: that it was he's everything he did.
Speaker 4: I was a big that I Freaking Gigs is one
Speaker 4: of my favorite shows. And he's like in that show
Speaker 4: and that shows a while ago, so he's like just
Speaker 4: the awkward kid in that show, and I'm so happy
Speaker 4: to see him in this movie. And I like that
Speaker 4: he had more screen time in one sense because he
Speaker 4: is really funny. But that kind of leads back to
Speaker 4: what I was saying of, like, yeah, maybe we could
Speaker 4: use the screen time for something a little more like
Speaker 4: deeply meaningful in the story or something. But I still
Speaker 4: I love that actor. He's such a funny guy. And yeah,
Speaker 4: he was only in like I feel like a couple
Speaker 4: of scenes in the first movie, so it was cool
Speaker 4: to have more of him.
Speaker 1: Did you like both teachers?
Speaker 4: Didn't? With the second teacher, the new one, I don't
Speaker 4: think we needed him just because it's like it's a
Speaker 4: new character, Like did we really need this in the story?
Speaker 4: He just says like Witchcraft seven times. It's like I
Speaker 4: don't know if I really need that character in my
Speaker 4: in my movie, right, because like what does he do
Speaker 4: like for the plot? Nothing, Like he has no reason
Speaker 4: and he just like uses the same joke over and over,
Speaker 4: and like if it was a character in the first movie,
Speaker 4: shirt be cause it's like building upon that world or something.
Speaker 4: But it's not. It's just some new guy. Like if
Speaker 4: it was Hannibal, who is the gym teacher in First one,
Speaker 4: then I would have been down for that, yeah, because
Speaker 4: you know, he's a funny guy. But also it just
Speaker 4: would have been cool to see like another character back,
Speaker 4: I guess. But because that guy's not in the first movie, right.
Speaker 1: No, Jamie Smooth is not. Yeah, so he used that
Speaker 1: witchcraft joke way too much, That's.
Speaker 4: What I said. I said that he just said that
Speaker 4: like seven times, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was pretty disappointed by that. I like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that guy outside of this movie. He's a
Speaker 1: comedian and he's pretty funny. But yeah, maybe Hamibers just
Speaker 1: couldn't make it so they got JB. Smooth instead.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I like some of his humor worked for me,
Speaker 2: but it was mostly just like I don't know, just
Speaker 2: little like quick things he said, and then once we
Speaker 2: saw him more in the movie, it was just it
Speaker 2: was too much. Like for me, I was I don't know,
Speaker 2: there's too much witchcraft for me, I'd say little too much.
Speaker 3: I am big on mythological things and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: So when he's popping off with the witchcraft, I was
Speaker 3: laughing every time. I thought it was great. I love
Speaker 3: how quick jabs. He's like it's like this witchcraft.
Speaker 1: You know. I just I like that quick. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just good. I love that. Oh well, okay, we
Speaker 1: should probably dive into some deeper stuff now kind of
Speaker 1: did some four play. So where do we want to
Speaker 1: start because we got, you know, mysterio, the twist we got,
Speaker 1: I want to start.
Speaker 2: Take us away.
Speaker 3: When he immediately did the flip and dived into the
Speaker 3: special effects and just mind fucking Spider Man, I like
Speaker 3: I had to pull like readjust my three D glasses
Speaker 3: and like get in my seat, like this was.
Speaker 1: A wild ride.
Speaker 3: I love you to get in your seat. I was like,
Speaker 3: you got out of your seat and please, like I
Speaker 3: can't stress it enough, ladies and gentlemen. When Mysterio pops
Speaker 3: off with the special effects on Peter Parker, it is
Speaker 3: so good, dead iron Man crawling out of the gray
Speaker 3: with the Spider on his on his broken helmet and
Speaker 3: you know, just like the statue and just like oh
Speaker 3: just him like going to punch and he punches a
Speaker 3: brick wall and he's just falling out of the bill
Speaker 3: like it's just it was good.
Speaker 2: Though I'm just gonna call him like dream sequences for
Speaker 2: lack of a better trippy sequences. Those were so well
Speaker 2: done and I was so happy with that. And like, uh,
Speaker 2: shortly before that, I think is when like the switch
Speaker 2: of the halfway point of the movie, because I remember
Speaker 2: like near getting near to the it might've just been
Speaker 2: dragging from like the beginning of the movie. I was
Speaker 2: sort of just being like I don't really know how
Speaker 2: I feel about this movie right now, Like, uh, there's
Speaker 2: another scene where I can talk about after, but it's
Speaker 2: just like I wasn't really digging it. And then I
Speaker 2: was just like, man, this isn't looking good for like
Speaker 2: what I was really anticipating this movie would be. And
Speaker 2: then as soon as it got to that certain point
Speaker 2: and then we got to see like those mysterio like
Speaker 2: trippy scenes, it just blew me away. Like I was
Speaker 2: so engaged. I was just I was loving it. Like
Speaker 2: the special effects were so good and like it's just
Speaker 2: perfect thing to do for a character like that, right,
Speaker 2: And uh, yeah, do you guys want to talk about
Speaker 2: the spitial effects.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they knocked out the part that's fall on
Speaker 1: com books that's falling and made show they just that's
Speaker 1: everything I wanted, and I think that that's why I'll
Speaker 1: talk more about later. But the second half is so
Speaker 1: good once that reveal happens, and I think maybe that's
Speaker 1: the problem is like I know mysterious, we know that's
Speaker 1: gonna have him a serial, So that first half you're
Speaker 1: just kind of waiting, And that's why I think it
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been a first half. It should have been
Speaker 1: a first quarter because it went on for way too long.
Speaker 1: We know something's gonna happen, whether it's a different dimension on.
Speaker 1: But once that switch happens, everything from him being like
Speaker 1: an actual director, so it's kind of that tribute to
Speaker 1: kind of a special effects guy. I'll talk about his
Speaker 1: origin after, but the way he's directing the scenes, he's
Speaker 1: kind of a little caring for Peter, but not too
Speaker 1: much about like the oh the bloods given me on
Speaker 1: your hands and yeah, all that trippy stuff is fantastic.
Speaker 1: It's just that's I wish I should shut the noll
Speaker 1: and spoils. But that's like for me right now, a
Speaker 1: bolt point of one of the best scenes as far
Speaker 1: as like a Golden Geek's nomination.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's one of the best scenes in like
Speaker 4: all of the MCU.
Speaker 1: That's a top ten or right there maying top five.
Speaker 1: They just like to it with a dead iron Man,
Speaker 1: which is a shout to Marvel Zombies. Just everything the
Speaker 1: suit's constantly changing.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: It was everything I ever want to see. And that's
Speaker 1: why for this is like a movie I'll always rewatch
Speaker 1: because I got to see that live action. That's all
Speaker 1: the the stereial stuff they did perfectly. So yeah, that
Speaker 1: was great.
Speaker 4: That I love. The first instance of the trip sequence
Speaker 4: is really it's like reminds me a lot of that
Speaker 4: scene in Doctor Strange where he gets like punched through
Speaker 4: that dimensional hole and you're going through all that stuff,
Speaker 4: which I also love that scene, but this one feels
Speaker 4: like that, but it also has like a pretty big
Speaker 4: story impact because it ends with him getting hit by
Speaker 4: a fucking train, which is pretty intense.
Speaker 2: Was really intense. I was not expecting that at all.
Speaker 4: That's that's crazy, and yeah, I just love that sequence.
Speaker 4: That was like, that's why I love Mysterio, because I
Speaker 4: really all I know of Mysterio is pretty much from
Speaker 4: like the animated show. And then that's like he's not
Speaker 4: even that interesting of a character, like like.
Speaker 1: Just making his story. Beck is not an interesting character.
Speaker 4: He's pretty bland, Like he's a very very basic kind
Speaker 4: of character. But it's just like the trippy sequence is
Speaker 4: how colorful it is the look all of that, and
Speaker 4: and like that scene alone is just it fully satisfied
Speaker 4: my mysterio on the big screen, Like that is exactly
Speaker 4: what I wanted, and I just wanted more of it.
Speaker 4: I know it like probably costs a lot of money
Speaker 4: to make that scene, and like maybe it didn't need it,
Speaker 4: like it happened kind of at the end, but I
Speaker 4: just love that scene so much. And then as you
Speaker 4: guys mentioned the bar scene, I love that as well.
Speaker 4: It's almost like a black mirror moment where it just
Speaker 4: like shifts into something that you were totally not expecting
Speaker 4: just in.
Speaker 2: The bar as an actor, right, yeah, good.
Speaker 4: And to me, like I loved his whole dialogue there.
Speaker 4: It was super weird. It was very cult like I
Speaker 4: felt like he came across as like a cult leader
Speaker 4: and just how weird, like they're cheering for all these
Speaker 4: people that they hated. It was such a strange scenario,
Speaker 4: but it was so interesting to me. I was like
Speaker 4: instantly just like super gripped into that character, and I, yeah,
Speaker 4: I agree with you guys that it started off like
Speaker 4: you know, obviously we're waiting for something, this is like
Speaker 4: a little a little basic. But when it made that turn,
Speaker 4: I was I was totally satisfied, and I think it's
Speaker 4: like multiplied because I don't know, I felt like his
Speaker 4: first couple scenes where I don't know if it was
Speaker 4: the dialogue or the acting. I have to see the
Speaker 4: movie again to really tell, but like something seemed off
Speaker 4: to me. I was like I was just getting bad vibes,
Speaker 4: like not the Speci effect stuff, but just the scenes
Speaker 4: where he's in like with the Shield agents, like in
Speaker 4: the whatever, the sewer wherever they were, and just talking
Speaker 4: to them. Like I just felt like the dialogue was
Speaker 4: was pretty basic, or maybe acting wise, it was a
Speaker 4: little basic. But like in retrospect, knowing that that's like
Speaker 4: what the like from the character's perspective, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: It's like a guy who's trying to act, but he's
Speaker 4: not an actor, so it makes sense that it's like
Speaker 4: it would feel a bit off. So I'm curious how
Speaker 4: that's gonna hit me the second time I watch a
Speaker 4: movie if it still feels a little jarring, or if
Speaker 4: it's like, damn, they did that really well done. I
Speaker 4: thought it was like some weird acting, but it's actually like,
Speaker 4: well it was weird acting from a character who was
Speaker 4: acting act weird. Yeah, so it all kind of like
Speaker 4: ties back, and then I just don't know how I
Speaker 4: feel about the like the ending, like the send off
Speaker 4: of the character one because I don't want him dead.
Speaker 4: I really really hope he's not dead, which he dies
Speaker 4: in this movie. I mean, you know, there's always ways
Speaker 4: you can say he's not dead. More holograms, maybe this,
Speaker 4: that the other thing. Who knows. But I just feel
Speaker 4: like in that very last scene as well, he kind
Speaker 4: of came back to dialogue that wasn't really gripping to
Speaker 4: me anymore. It felt like it was reaching that like
Speaker 4: basic level that he started at, which I don't know.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a fully satisfying finish for me, I guess,
Speaker 4: but like I that's what I said in the in
Speaker 4: the spoiler free section, but like, yeah, eighty ninety percent
Speaker 4: of the character I just loved, like love blah love
Speaker 4: one of my like definitely up there in MCU villains,
Speaker 4: I would say for me overall, like easily in the
Speaker 4: top ten.
Speaker 2: So there is one scene. I think it was when
Speaker 2: Peter goes to meet like with the Shield agents for
Speaker 2: the second time and he's like oh yeah, blah blah
Speaker 2: blah beck He's like it's mysterio now and I remember
Speaker 2: like he does like the odd Yeah, it was really
Speaker 2: like just creepy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like kind of hamming it up right.
Speaker 1: He was playing that. I thought he was playing that
Speaker 1: for comedy though. I thought he was trying to just
Speaker 1: like yeah, I thought he was trying to have something.
Speaker 2: I was creeped out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he was.
Speaker 4: Peter's like a kid, He's like being lighthearted. I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's trying to play up like oh,
Speaker 1: this is a little goofy, you know, like we have
Speaker 1: these costumes and whatnot. Because yeah, I thought the same
Speaker 1: thing as because I guess it's such a balance because
Speaker 1: you have Gillen Hall, which is the reason you get
Speaker 1: an actor like that, because that scene, the reveal could
Speaker 1: have been pretty bad because it's just five minutes an
Speaker 1: exposition of like you did this and you were screwing
Speaker 1: and you did this, like on script, that's a very
Speaker 1: boring scene. So you gotta get him. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember when the first little bit, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: Joel Hall's really phoned in. He just wanted to paycheck.
Speaker 1: And now for me, it does work as far as okay,
Speaker 1: he's just trying to portray a good guy, do gooder,
Speaker 1: bland hero, you know. And that's why he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to even come him off as like a Tony Stark
Speaker 1: like arrogant, might make mistake. He just wants to seem
Speaker 1: like a plain white meat babyface. And that's why I
Speaker 1: like Peter giving him the glasses. It's a total Peter
Speaker 1: Parker young guy mistake, like oh you trust you? Like
Speaker 1: he's no on this guy for fucking a day or
Speaker 1: two and he's like, oh Tony would want you to
Speaker 1: have this. It's like just at least like wait a
Speaker 1: few days. But that's that's a classic Spider Man move,
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, I thought everything they did with
Speaker 1: him was really well and that's why they got Chill
Speaker 1: and Hall. I mean, he was I think having a
Speaker 1: real fun time once they did the shift because he's
Speaker 1: just hamming it up. He's chewing the scene where he's
Speaker 1: very he's very out there in a way, and I
Speaker 1: liked it quite.
Speaker 2: He's definitely like out there and very like director like
Speaker 2: and like friendly. But then there's also like when he
Speaker 2: would get like angry, he just like he just seemed
Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 3: Whole scene where it was kind of like him and
Speaker 3: the bar, I thought it was very well done. I think,
Speaker 3: you know, when he put on the glasses. The whole time,
Speaker 3: I felt like he was trying to act like Tony Stark,
Speaker 3: even when he put him on and did like this
Speaker 3: little hair flip, just he was trying to mimic Tony Stark,
Speaker 3: and I feel like he was trying to convince Peter
Speaker 3: Parker and persuade him to see like that, you know, wow,
Speaker 3: he looks like a Tony Stark. And he kind of
Speaker 3: did when he put on the glasses too. I mean,
Speaker 3: he really looked like it.
Speaker 1: But I was worried in the mill, not worried, but
Speaker 1: what I was singing the mill it seeing that Peter
Speaker 1: was going to force him put on the glasses and
Speaker 1: it was gonna say something of like it was gonna
Speaker 1: read him and Peter would get it. But no, it
Speaker 1: didn't happen, So I was wrong there.
Speaker 3: I really really laughed when it was pointing he was
Speaker 3: doing his speech and uh pointing out to all the
Speaker 3: people and was doing the quick little flashbacks. But his
Speaker 3: flashback when Tony Stark's like, yeah, we'd call it bar
Speaker 3: for something, and he's often the curtain in his face.
Speaker 1: So good. So that's what I want to talk about next,
Speaker 1: because I'm the reverse of I don't have any problems
Speaker 1: with the endings, but the problem with the origin is
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'm fine with it. They set up
Speaker 1: it's fun and you get the guy from Ironman one back,
Speaker 1: so hit some fun stuff. For me where the laziness
Speaker 1: comes in, it's just that it's an another villain directly. Oh,
Speaker 1: because Tony Starts screwed me over. I'm gonna you would
Speaker 1: like that though. You like all of Tony starts faults,
Speaker 1: don't you. But but for me, it's the fact that
Speaker 1: we got Vulture. His exact story is he bought a
Speaker 1: bunch of equipment to do a job. Tony bought that
Speaker 1: job and then sent him and made him pretty much,
Speaker 1: you know, in debt, and then he had to turn
Speaker 1: to a life of crime. This is not that exact
Speaker 1: same story, but it's the same thing of Hey, Tony
Speaker 1: screwed us all over and we gotta come back and
Speaker 1: get him. And the thing is that sucks is I
Speaker 1: get that Iron Man just died, so we probably weren't
Speaker 1: gonna get a flashback. But I think I would have
Speaker 1: been much more on board if we got a scene
Speaker 1: of them interacting. I understood vulture in him because it
Speaker 1: was just by circumstance he screwed over Adrian Tombs. This
Speaker 1: is he worked with him, and all we get is
Speaker 1: quinbeckx SA's he said I was unstable, and they show
Speaker 1: that later on he's unstable. But that's where I love
Speaker 1: what they did with him. But his motivations, as far
Speaker 1: as a villain, they're still pretty weak and they're pretty
Speaker 1: and that's fine because it's a mysterio. But that's where
Speaker 1: it's still like someone like a Vulture for me, still
Speaker 1: gets the upper hand. He's not in that to me
Speaker 1: kill Monger Thanoh's Loki tier. He's in like I saw
Speaker 1: a B tier. And that's the problem is because I
Speaker 1: one I felt it was just a little lazy, but like, oh,
Speaker 1: he was unstable, why what, like just give us an
Speaker 1: example of what happened that why Tony would fire you know,
Speaker 1: because in this and since just Tony took his like,
Speaker 1: I would be unsable too if Tony just took all
Speaker 1: my shit and renamed and everything like that. So I
Speaker 1: want more on that. And again I just think it's again.
Speaker 1: If it wasn't back to back, it'd be fine. But
Speaker 1: why do we have to make him an iron Man
Speaker 1: villain again? You know, like we just had that a vulture,
Speaker 1: We just had that, and just feels like experiment gets
Speaker 1: less of identity. We already have so much with iron Man,
Speaker 1: with him being dead and then the equipment and then
Speaker 1: his villain is he's pretty much an iron Man villain
Speaker 1: that's just going after spier Man because iron Man is dead.
Speaker 1: So for me, that was it felt they took a
Speaker 1: really lazer out, like, oh, just make him Tony screwed
Speaker 1: him over. Oh great, And it's like, okay, we just did.
Speaker 1: We literally just did.
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't say he was an iron Man villain.
Speaker 3: He just he wanted to. He didn't want to kill
Speaker 3: iron Man or anything like that. He just wanted to
Speaker 3: take over and be that hero because he knew that
Speaker 3: everything else was gone.
Speaker 1: But I mean, said man is the point of his
Speaker 1: origin of evil? Right if Tony doesn't steals a quick
Speaker 1: screw him over. He's just still working out.
Speaker 4: I agree to an extent, Like I think if if,
Speaker 4: because you have to think about, like when was that
Speaker 4: turn where Iron Man did that to him? That's like
Speaker 4: the start of Civil War essentially, right somewhere in that time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so that's like Tony has already passed the point of
Speaker 4: being in a total asshole at that point, like in
Speaker 4: terms of the MCU, right, and like his growth as
Speaker 4: a character, He's still is kind of an asshole in
Speaker 4: that movie, but it's different then. I feel like in
Speaker 4: the first Iron Man, like one and two and stuff, he's.
Speaker 1: Just like, well, you could make the case because in
Speaker 1: that time, for me, is locking his friends up in
Speaker 1: prison though, right, so you can make the case that
Speaker 1: he's also the height of his asshole.
Speaker 4: Miss Yeah, I know, but eh, maybe.
Speaker 1: He puts Falcon in jail, he puts Scarlett Witch in jail,
Speaker 1: you know, like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I feel like reason, Yeah, but I feel
Speaker 4: like in the first Iron Man and stuff, he would
Speaker 4: just like fire someone without giving a shit about their life,
Speaker 4: whereas he had like he had reasons in Civil War.
Speaker 4: And that's why I mean, I think Civil war is
Speaker 4: so good is because they both have good reasons. But
Speaker 4: I do see what you mean, Like I don't know
Speaker 4: if maybe it would have been different if that was
Speaker 4: like really early on. I stuff. I'm cool with the
Speaker 4: tie back to like that timeline. I think it. I
Speaker 4: think it still works, and I think he makes some
Speaker 4: good points. But at the end of the day, for me,
Speaker 4: like Ironman has had such a massive impact on this world.
Speaker 4: He has saved it multiple times. He's like really anything
Speaker 4: about it. Like he, like Robert Downey Junior, is like
Speaker 4: largely responsible for how big this stuff is in the
Speaker 4: first place. So just like the impact that he has,
Speaker 4: it makes sense that it's like it's kind of always
Speaker 4: trickled down. There's like his his choices as a person
Speaker 4: are always going to affect things, and he has been
Speaker 4: so influential and he just like it shows that even
Speaker 4: after his death, like people are still against him for
Speaker 4: like certain reasons, even though he literally gave up his
Speaker 4: life for like these people to continue on living. So
Speaker 4: I don't know, I was I guess I was fine
Speaker 4: with it, even though it is sort of a retread
Speaker 4: of Vulture. I feel like Vulture, maybe it is like
Speaker 4: directly tied to Ironman, but I took it more as
Speaker 4: like a just superhero like because of the all the supers,
Speaker 4: not just iron.
Speaker 1: As kind of, but they multiple times, Like there's a
Speaker 1: moment where he's breaking the Stark stuff and he finds
Speaker 1: Iron Man mask and he looks at it and just
Speaker 1: throws away tie, and it's just I think for me,
Speaker 1: if it wasn't that we're already dealing with his death
Speaker 1: and then also dealing with Spermanginal his gear, it's just
Speaker 1: and we literally which I do, like we literally see
Speaker 1: Iron Man everywhere. It's just maybe bring them back in
Speaker 1: a different film, I don't think. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they need. You could have easily just had mysterial wanting
Speaker 1: to be a new hero kind of because he is
Speaker 1: just syndrome in this, so I kind of had that
Speaker 1: feeling early on he just wants to be a new hero.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I had to be tied to
Speaker 1: Iron Man. I liked the like Civil War like cheesy
Speaker 1: zoom in it. It's a double cross. I like it
Speaker 1: for being cheesy, but at the same point, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of I think, like I said, if there would
Speaker 1: have just been a scene of Jill and Hall and
Speaker 1: down together that could have sold me just a scene cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially I don't know how they would have done that,
Speaker 1: and like I said, they probably didn't want to because
Speaker 1: they want you to feel his ending. But for me,
Speaker 1: I feel like you can bring those characters back for
Speaker 1: flashbacks and it's not like cheapening his death. If they
Speaker 1: bring it back to life, then yes, but they already
Speaker 1: had like the dead Iron Man suit, So yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Think maybe for me, like I think by definition, that
Speaker 4: is very much like attacked on thing, like when they
Speaker 4: made Civil War. I don't think they were planning that.
Speaker 4: Mysterio was in the background there five years and so
Speaker 4: even though it, like by definition, is tacked on, it
Speaker 4: didn't feel that way when I was watching the movie.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's one thing as well that like, I'll
Speaker 4: just have to see what marinates as I watched this
Speaker 4: movie in the future, I definitely see like the comparisons
Speaker 4: to the like Vulture villain from the last one, and
Speaker 4: how his means were pretty similar to Mysterios, how he
Speaker 4: just hated Tony.
Speaker 2: But like for me, oh but for me, turn me down.
Speaker 4: Damn, how's it feel muted?
Speaker 2: It? It feels a little bit quieter, But no, I
Speaker 2: feel like for me it it worked, especially like since
Speaker 2: the last movie was Endgame, so Tony's death just happened.
Speaker 2: It's still so new. Whereas if I feel like if
Speaker 2: we were three movies in and we're still doing like
Speaker 2: Tony Stark Villains, it's like, I'm doing this because Tony
Speaker 2: Stark was an asshole and you know, so exactly exactly,
Speaker 2: so it might it might go down, it might go downhill. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but for me, I am I'm giving it. I'm giving
Speaker 2: it a pass for those reasons. Fair enough, but but yeah.
Speaker 1: M hm, I was gonna throw it. Maybe you can
Speaker 1: start as far as we got because we didn't talk
Speaker 1: about the reveal that he was not from the multiverse.
Speaker 1: Multiverse it's a real thing because they confirmed doctor Strange,
Speaker 1: but it didn't happen the way. I don't think we
Speaker 1: all thought it was gonna be that. I think it
Speaker 1: was just more of a hope because I listened a prediction.
Speaker 1: None of us predicted like always for sure. From that,
Speaker 1: we just all kind of wanted that. And well, we'll
Speaker 1: save the end credits for the end. If you think,
Speaker 1: why haven't we talked about that big alf in the room.
Speaker 1: Well we'll talk about the end, but we'll get there.
Speaker 1: So that disappointed me a little bit. I liked the
Speaker 1: reveal and how it happened with the steer, so that
Speaker 1: was fine. But uh, it feels maybe they won't be
Speaker 1: playing around with multiverses right now as much as I
Speaker 1: was hoping. And that totally And I.
Speaker 4: Think that's okay for like an epilogue to the saga,
Speaker 4: like that's the big kind of worms to open there.
Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of other can of worms
Speaker 4: that are opened in this movie, like more towards the end.
Speaker 4: But I I was fine with it in the end.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I really liked the reason for Mysterios
Speaker 4: turning like his backstory, even if it is kind of
Speaker 4: simple or kind of something we've seen before. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm cool with it. Someday. I still hope we get
Speaker 4: that Toby verse where we see all these spidy guys
Speaker 4: next to each other.
Speaker 1: Spider Verse is gonna beat them to they Fisher are
Speaker 1: gonna now, I guarantee you Spider.
Speaker 4: They see that, they're like on their tail and they're like,
Speaker 4: we gotta do thisrow. Yeah, but well here's the thing.
Speaker 4: Will Toby come back twice.
Speaker 5: You're gonna get an ad break and then you're gonna
Speaker 5: be right back to the episode.
Speaker 1: I don't know, he doesn't need the paycheck.
Speaker 4: He hasn't How many how many figy bucks do you
Speaker 4: think he would get if he appeared in a cameo?
Speaker 2: He would I think he would get a fun buck.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, at least a fun bug.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, like I believe it was it was
Speaker 2: the water elemental right, that was like the first one
Speaker 2: that they're fighting in Italy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that like Hydroman Knaco, which I like, there was
Speaker 1: an easter egg. They're like, oh, the scientists had an
Speaker 1: experiment with water. So that was kind of like a
Speaker 1: nice tribute like the actual hydra Man going on, because
Speaker 1: this is not hydra Man.
Speaker 4: Obvious man, what if hydro Man? Oh man, the animated
Speaker 4: show with the hydro Man story. It's I hate hydra
Speaker 4: but that ending last season, Yeah, I know it's a
Speaker 4: good turn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that look like the look of mysterious like fighting
Speaker 2: and it just looked very doctor strange like. And I
Speaker 2: remember like because like I was very skeptical going into it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't trust Mysterio until like the movie's over,
Speaker 2: and like he is from a multiverse and he is
Speaker 2: a good guy, Like I just don't trust him, especially
Speaker 2: just like he's a magician, right, like this is what
Speaker 2: he does. He fools people. But uh, I remember like
Speaker 2: seeing that sort of thing. So I'm like, I'm really
Speaker 2: interested if they take like a different route with this
Speaker 2: character for the MCU, having those those thoughts that back
Speaker 2: of my mind though that he is a trickster and
Speaker 2: so like at that point, I feel like that might
Speaker 2: have been near the part of the movie that I
Speaker 2: wasn't really like digging too much, or I just felt
Speaker 2: like something was a little off, like it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Like when he's still on hero mode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Like it just felt different, Like his look
Speaker 2: was so cool flying through the air with the smoke,
Speaker 2: it just looks so sick.
Speaker 1: And his actions really the mysterio trippy scene of the
Speaker 1: action alone is really good. They want actually the best
Speaker 1: spidy action, Like all of a sudden they do the
Speaker 1: elementals and the fight scenes and the mysteria flying. I
Speaker 1: really liked all that the bubble Oh it looks.
Speaker 2: So there are some really good like action scenes, even
Speaker 2: when like Nick Fury and I always forget her hill.
Speaker 2: Yeah when she when they come in, it's just like
Speaker 2: they come into the courtyard or whatever it is, and
Speaker 2: it's just like Mayhem's going on, Spidey's doing his own things,
Speaker 2: all mysterios, fighting the the monster, but uh, just getting
Speaker 2: back to Mysterio. So like I was really on the
Speaker 2: fence whether I like the new adaptation of it, like
Speaker 2: the Superhero Mysterio. But then as soon as that like
Speaker 2: bar scene happened and he was like his voice changed,
Speaker 2: his mannerisms changed. He was just totally like a director
Speaker 2: or like a special effects guy.
Speaker 1: And I was even as like a mo cap oh yeah,
Speaker 1: circus on like bubble, yeah they got I was.
Speaker 2: I was just smiling. As soon as that happened. I
Speaker 2: was like, this is exactly what I want because this
Speaker 2: is Mysterio, right, Like this is what we what we've
Speaker 2: or what we've grown to know of this character. And
Speaker 2: I was so satisfied with like just that turn, Like
Speaker 2: I feel like at that point on that's where I
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I'm in, Like I'm fulling one.
Speaker 1: All my it seems like most of my complaints are
Speaker 1: all the first half center with choices they made or
Speaker 1: just comedy and stuff like that. But once that reveal
Speaker 1: happened to just we're going, We're going there's and it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like we're switching even stuff like when we
Speaker 1: get that final fight scene. It could have been boring
Speaker 1: him just fighting drones, but they make that work. I
Speaker 1: was getting major spier Man two game flashbacks with some
Speaker 1: mysterious of those, but we'll get to that. I hate
Speaker 1: the Peter Tingle thing. I know it's a joke, but
Speaker 1: I really don't, especially in the main but when he
Speaker 1: does use his spicy sense and he does that like
Speaker 1: going through all the drones and like find that that
Speaker 1: was so cool. Yeah, that's why I hate it. When
Speaker 1: he said Peter Tingle Peter.
Speaker 2: I liked it like the first time, and then when
Speaker 2: Happy said it was really good.
Speaker 1: But then yeah, when he said it before like the
Speaker 1: cool scene, that's when I was like, okay, this kind
Speaker 1: of killed them, and then it's like, oh, okay, he's flipping around.
Speaker 1: This is cool.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I like that solution. A big reason is
Speaker 4: because I I every time I watch home Coming. That's
Speaker 4: what irks me the most is how the vulture like
Speaker 4: Vulture getting taken out is not because Peter like outsmarted
Speaker 4: him or or like outpowered him. It's just like kind
Speaker 4: of coincidence or like vultures being kind of greedy trying
Speaker 4: to fly away. And then that's like the ending. It's
Speaker 4: always a big you'll die, it's always a big letdown
Speaker 4: for me. So the fact that you know, we get
Speaker 4: like Peter who's harnessing this power that he hasn't been
Speaker 4: able to harness before in a new way, it's like
Speaker 4: it changes the character he's now growing, Like that's something
Speaker 4: that will be with him for the rest of these movies.
Speaker 4: And he actually overcame something that like almost killed him before.
Speaker 4: It was that was a lot more satisfying for me
Speaker 4: this time around. So that's like a huge thing for me.
Speaker 4: He got to cap it off right, And even though
Speaker 4: I'm not happy that they killed him still, I don't
Speaker 4: maybe like some of his dialogue at the very very end,
Speaker 4: at least the the ending action scene with him was
Speaker 4: was really good. Even though you can't have you know,
Speaker 4: Peter punching mysterior, like they can't have a fistfight. That
Speaker 4: just wouldn't work. It's not the kind of character, right,
Speaker 4: But they ended up doing it well through the through
Speaker 4: the drones.
Speaker 2: That was just such a good scene, especially like when
Speaker 2: Peter hits the first one, then you kind of get
Speaker 2: like a glimpse of what's actually happening and you see
Speaker 2: the drones coming. It was just I really like that
Speaker 2: whole scene. And then when Mysterious tries to fool him,
Speaker 2: you know, he's like giving him the glasses and then
Speaker 2: Peter gets Oh.
Speaker 4: It's just yeah, that was so good.
Speaker 1: That's what I liked. It's a different take. It's he
Speaker 1: literally says that, it's like, we all know what Mysterio.
Speaker 1: Once I get past those drones, he's just a guy.
Speaker 1: I can take him out. And that's why I liked.
Speaker 1: He never was Oh he didn't have mixed martial arts
Speaker 1: and have you know something, I know, a superpower. I
Speaker 1: just no, he was just a guy who had a
Speaker 1: bunch of gear and you know, and not even the
Speaker 1: extent of Tony where he doesn't even even have an
Speaker 1: actual Mysterio suit that has all the powers. He just
Speaker 1: has the victory suit.
Speaker 4: He call that.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, do you still want me to dry
Speaker 1: clean the cape? Yes? I do jan And he was great,
Speaker 1: and that's why I feel like he took what the
Speaker 1: second that reveal happened I could see why Jill Hall
Speaker 1: took this role because it just felt like a very
Speaker 1: Gill and Hall asked like the whole once he was
Speaker 1: in the mocap bubble soup and everything like that, and
Speaker 1: I did say it on the riddictions, and I think
Speaker 1: he will. Unfortunately, I think he's gonna stay dead. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's probably the center six. I think it's
Speaker 1: just because he he's that, he's a guy. He didn't
Speaker 1: want to do a bunch And we'll talk about when
Speaker 1: we get the end credit scenes. But I think they've
Speaker 1: done it in a way where he's kind of a
Speaker 1: joke or like figure, where his like effect will last
Speaker 1: throughout movies or at least the next movie. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. You may see Mysterio and that effects, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll see quit. I don't think
Speaker 1: you'll see Quinn back. I think he's six feet under
Speaker 1: a Tony.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like it, which I mean, it's obviously
Speaker 4: too bad. I was hoping that was like the thing
Speaker 4: I said the most on our Predictions cast. I was
Speaker 4: just really hoping that he would stick around no matter
Speaker 4: what happens, and you know, maybe we'll get more Mysterio
Speaker 4: in some sense. Who knows how they will spin that,
Speaker 4: but I think if they are planning to go for
Speaker 4: that Sinister six, then you need multiple types of characters
Speaker 4: to keep that interesting, like multiple types of villains. That's
Speaker 4: why I always throw Rhino there, even though he's like
Speaker 4: kind of boring. It's like you need that big burly
Speaker 4: guy and Mysterio is that good like mind fuck character
Speaker 4: that year? Yeah, exactly. There's not really a ton of
Speaker 4: spidy villains that really do. I guess like Scorpion could
Speaker 4: with like poison or something, but I really want my
Speaker 4: Stereo to stay alive, especially if we hit that Sinister
Speaker 4: Sick time frame at some.
Speaker 1: Point together too. Would have been so much fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and our boys Scorpion like great acting from whatever
Speaker 4: that guy's name is, a Shockers back.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything else. I know we'll talk about
Speaker 1: Masteriro when we get to end chris Can, but anything
Speaker 1: else in the immediate future.
Speaker 4: I guess one last thing related to that final fight.
Speaker 4: I just I love the scene where Spy's like inside
Speaker 4: simulation and he's jumping around taking out all the drones,
Speaker 4: and like the chase scene where he's just taking out
Speaker 4: like how can I do this most efficiently? Right? How
Speaker 4: can I take it like twenty at once?
Speaker 1: It's probably just a bird, let me see. I like
Speaker 1: that that they were all smart, but mysterio is always
Speaker 1: like call them on there crap. And I love that
Speaker 1: cap tribute. We got one point where he has like
Speaker 1: a car door. Yeah like that, and then even the
Speaker 1: one who're Happy does it later when he throws that.
Speaker 2: Was so funny the way he threw it to it
Speaker 2: just went straight down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, he had no style.
Speaker 2: That was so great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, like there's there's a handful of scenes like that
Speaker 2: that just like maybe belly laugh Like I just wasn't expecting.
Speaker 2: It's just like they did such a good job on it.
Speaker 2: Happy was great in this movie.
Speaker 1: Happy was fantaspy addition, and especially you look at the
Speaker 1: juxtaposition of how he felt in Homecoming. He didn't hate him,
Speaker 1: but just a nuisance to Peter, And I like that
Speaker 1: he is just like he's maybe another uncle, which we'll
Speaker 1: talk to you, but that kind of that uncle nephew
Speaker 1: relationship and everything I liked. And I guess I didn't
Speaker 1: say that non spoils, but I really like that's the
Speaker 1: other thing as far as them handling Peter's dealing with
Speaker 1: Tony and this whole role become the new iron Man.
Speaker 1: I really like that. That's where I said, it's very
Speaker 1: much like iron Man three or Ironn three suffering or
Speaker 1: iron Man suffering from PTSD, and there's a twist with
Speaker 1: the villain. This is the very much same of he's
Speaker 1: suffering from PTSD, and there's a twist of the villain.
Speaker 1: So kind of a little like formulaic in that sense.
Speaker 1: But sure, I liked the conversations he had with Happy Love.
Speaker 1: Absolutely love the scene once he gets all the gear
Speaker 1: and Happy says, I'll hit the music and it's ACDC
Speaker 1: back and back, the very first song ever played in
Speaker 1: the MCU, and then that I love led Zeppelin. Like
Speaker 1: that whole airplane scene was really well done. And I
Speaker 1: hope Happy is around quite a bit. I have some
Speaker 1: cons about him and aunt May, but him as a character.
Speaker 1: I like the dynamic they're going for and just him
Speaker 1: looking back and seeing Peter at that gear and just
Speaker 1: seeing like a young Tony there and just saying like,
Speaker 1: that's what I like too, that they now that he's dead.
Speaker 1: They and they've done a few times, but of like
Speaker 1: he couldn't even live up to Iron Man, you know,
Speaker 1: like he was a mess. He wasn't you know he
Speaker 1: was where Peter just holds him in this light because
Speaker 1: he got recruited and gave him all this stuff. But
Speaker 1: it's like no, like he was a mess of a
Speaker 1: guy and you're gonna be a mess and just try
Speaker 1: your best. That's all you can do. So I love.
Speaker 2: Everything they did with Happy and oh yeah, that that
Speaker 2: Airplace scene. I was actually like tearing up. I was
Speaker 2: crying big time, especially like I just watched Endgame again
Speaker 2: like a couple days before, so it was really fresh,
Speaker 2: like that them coming back together and then obviously the
Speaker 2: death of Tony and then like them talking about this one.
Speaker 2: I just felt like I was I was a mess.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was good.
Speaker 3: That's scene and the music kicked in. I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: Dylan's loving mess. He's all over this right now.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It's great. I don't I don't like ac DC, but
Speaker 4: like they don't make me puke or anything, like I
Speaker 4: can handle it for ten seconds. It's just like you
Speaker 4: put like an album on. It's like, this is the
Speaker 4: worst hour of my life.
Speaker 1: Whoa worst houring life?
Speaker 3: I have to agree with you, Kirkland, when they when
Speaker 3: Happy started to really level with Peter and he was
Speaker 3: just getting so frustrated. Just you could feel the water
Speaker 3: building up that your eyes.
Speaker 1: It was, it was.
Speaker 3: It was such a good, just humble scene and just
Speaker 3: seeing like I feel like, you know, Happy that was
Speaker 3: a situation where he could have started to tear up
Speaker 3: to but he just he was grounded and he he
Speaker 3: was he knew Tony so freaking well, so much more
Speaker 3: than I think Tony even knew himself, and he just
Speaker 3: he just I think there was no other better person
Speaker 3: to council Peter Parker at that time than you know,
Speaker 3: the guy who was there all the time helping Tony.
Speaker 3: And I feel like just when Peter was in that
Speaker 3: element and just doing the same kind of moves that
Speaker 3: Tony was, you know, playing with the holograms and stuff,
Speaker 3: and just the look on Happy Hogan's face when he
Speaker 3: was looking at Peter in this environment, It's just like,
Speaker 3: I I like, Iron Man is one of my favorites,
Speaker 3: and I really really like Spider Man, and to see
Speaker 3: the two combine like this, it just was so so
Speaker 3: cool and it just yeah, it it was such a
Speaker 3: humbling scene. It felt so good. It felt like, you know,
Speaker 3: this is he doesn't have to live up to be
Speaker 3: iron Man, but iron Man's spirit will live through Peter Parker,
Speaker 3: which I thought was fantastic, or through Spider Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's super mad.
Speaker 1: Because John Feder directed the First Iron Man, he like
Speaker 1: started all this, so it's just to see, like it's
Speaker 1: such a cool just all round.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like those scenes between Happy and
Speaker 2: Tony and like the First Iron Man, like those are
Speaker 2: some of my favorite scenes. They just had good like chemistry.
Speaker 2: So seeing Happy now with Peter obviously with the loss
Speaker 2: of Tony, it was just it's just great.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, I'm glad that character has a role
Speaker 4: still these movies, even though we're not gonna get any
Speaker 4: more Iron Man movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah likely, Yeah to Stark at least, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I like to see the dynamic between Happy
Speaker 4: and Fury. Actually, like we only see it a couple
Speaker 4: of times, but it's it's kind of fun to see
Speaker 4: like a non hero character in rap with Fury. Usually
Speaker 4: it's just like him talking to Cap, yeah, talking Iron
Speaker 4: Man or something, So it's kind of interesting to see
Speaker 4: that dynamic and how he's like kind of intimidated by Fury,
Speaker 4: and Fury doesn't like him, but like he's still kind
Speaker 4: of new to him because Peter don't doesn't want to
Speaker 4: talk to him directly.
Speaker 3: But then yeah, that counter that it's not necessarily Fury.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the thing. I don't know if we want
Speaker 1: to talk about that now or talk about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my that's a I think a twist that I
Speaker 1: didn't need. I was on the two fur of being one.
Speaker 1: I don't think we need it as far as I
Speaker 1: don't know, because it's like saying it's not really Nick Fury,
Speaker 1: and I didn't like the portrayal of Nick Feer in
Speaker 1: this week. It kind of makes sense because I think
Speaker 1: they directed him to be a little different than usual,
Speaker 1: but just something felt off. That was the point. But
Speaker 1: then two, I didn't, Uh, this is a pure fanboy
Speaker 1: thing of like a trast told you. I never threw
Speaker 1: the hashtag on it, but I've always wanted the Scrawls
Speaker 1: to come back, and they were doing it perfectly, and
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be set for this next
Speaker 1: big story. Clearly it is setting something up because he's
Speaker 1: in space doing something. Maybe it's setting next So well, yeah,
Speaker 1: Sword is like Sword is like this, like the space Shield,
Speaker 1: so it's like to look after Earth in the outer space.
Speaker 1: But I feel like they just almost did it for comedy,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's gonna have much of an
Speaker 1: impact in the future. What he's doing in space.
Speaker 4: You don't think that's gonna be like a big plup
Speaker 4: pun and Captain Marvel too.
Speaker 1: Am up there, Yes, but them being Fury and Hill
Speaker 1: not really, I don't. I feel like it was kind
Speaker 1: of now a little comedic. Looking back on it, I
Speaker 1: think this movie almost like the trailer had enough. They
Speaker 1: didn't need that one more twist on there. You know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun. But now it's now Peter and
Speaker 1: Fury still haven't. Man, they don't have a really ship
Speaker 1: been now happy in Fury that's not them, you know,
Speaker 1: so I guess it's still empty.
Speaker 4: It was kind of established though that, like Fury's impact
Speaker 4: is kind of dissolved at this point, like on Earth
Speaker 4: and he's not really running the Avengers. There isn't really
Speaker 4: an Avengers right now in this current timeline, So I
Speaker 4: don't know. I I initially I felt kind of weird
Speaker 4: on It's like, Okay, what are they gonna do with this,
Speaker 4: and the more I've thought about it over the last day,
Speaker 4: it's not been a long time to be sure, but
Speaker 4: I like it, and I'm I mean, who knows. Obviously
Speaker 4: I could totally wreckon that when I see what they
Speaker 4: actually do with it, because it's just a it's just
Speaker 4: a tease, but conceptually I'm actually pretty into it. And
Speaker 4: I like the the scene of Fury just like where's
Speaker 4: my shoes or whatever? He says, Like, I just like
Speaker 4: this different type of Fury because I felt like he's
Speaker 4: kind of dropped off the map a while, like for
Speaker 4: a while in the MCU, but then this has kind
Speaker 4: of been his year where he's big and Captain Marvel
Speaker 4: obviously given like some more backstory to him, and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, he's not like really a lot of an endgame,
Speaker 4: is he.
Speaker 1: Kind of hell, he's literally a scene.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, So I just I guess I'm glad to
Speaker 4: have him back, but not just that, but glad to
Speaker 4: have him like he's gonna be like clearly a different character. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because I I think it's like I understand why they
Speaker 4: didn't keep like using him. It's like, how much can
Speaker 4: you really do with that character? I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I haven't read the comics. I'm not sure what they
Speaker 4: normally do with him, because you can do like Nan
Speaker 4: Night Nick Fury, you know, but I don't know whatever
Speaker 4: it is. Like, I'm super interested because I really like
Speaker 4: Sam Jackson. I think if I don't know what kind
Speaker 4: of role he'll be in, I'm sure like they'll ever
Speaker 4: be a Nick Fury movie. It'll be Captain Marvel too,
Speaker 4: where he's popped up. But I'm down to see what
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 1: I think his role is gonna be putting together the
Speaker 1: New Avengers. I think it's gonna be that all over again.
Speaker 1: But I think it's gonna be that. I think it's
Speaker 1: gona be finding a threatened space because that's Postcards scene.
Speaker 1: I think it's more to set up something else and
Speaker 1: not Captain Marble two because we literally just got Captain
Speaker 1: mar or sorry, yeah, we literally just got Captain Marvel.
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel two is in at least two years away,
Speaker 1: and it's weird because we're not gonna get to see
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about with the other Postcards scene. But
Speaker 1: next is Black Widow that's a prequel, and then after
Speaker 1: that was like Shang Chi and the eternals and everything
Speaker 1: like that. So it's like movies that are really outer
Speaker 1: space are of nothing like different contents, So we're not
Speaker 1: gonna get to really know my eternals might but I
Speaker 1: guess this issue is gonna be a question mark for
Speaker 1: quite a while.
Speaker 4: I think maybe you're right, Maybe the maybe Nick Pierry's
Speaker 4: next task is to make a new Avengers team, but
Speaker 4: it's gonna be no doubt different, right, Like he's not
Speaker 4: on Earth, I don't I think if they just probably
Speaker 4: bring them right back to Earth, that's gonna be a
Speaker 4: big let down. So I don't think they'll do that.
Speaker 4: So I think it'd be interesting if, like obviously he
Speaker 4: was working with shield Shield ended up being Hydra. It's
Speaker 4: like a big shitty thing. But now he has access
Speaker 4: to these scrolls and he can shape up, Like is
Speaker 4: he gonna use that? Is he going to be kind
Speaker 4: of like devious? Like again almost like he's holding back
Speaker 4: on like he's not talking to the heroes directly. He
Speaker 4: you know, they think he's being genuine, but he like
Speaker 4: it's not even just the scrolls acting as Nick Fury
Speaker 4: talking to people. It's like he could make like one
Speaker 4: of them into Captain America one of these scrolls, and
Speaker 4: they could like convince so and so the Hulk to
Speaker 4: come back and fight for the team whatever it is.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if that could be really interesting
Speaker 4: if if it's if it's usual, and I'd be super
Speaker 4: down for a Nick Fury who's like very deceptive and
Speaker 4: like like borderline bad guy in terms of like how
Speaker 4: he's going about this stuff, even though even if his
Speaker 4: like end goal is to sit like prevent whatever Galactus
Speaker 4: or whatever the hell's coming next. So I don't know,
Speaker 4: I think it's it's an interesting idea, and even though
Speaker 4: it's just a post credit scene, it's not a ton
Speaker 4: to dive into. I'm I'm, I'm okay with it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: as of right now.
Speaker 2: I uh. When they revealed it, I was, I was,
Speaker 2: I was. I liked it a lot actually, because I
Speaker 2: really like those characters from Captain Marvel.
Speaker 1: It's mostly just him more. Yeah, I'm not exactly he
Speaker 1: can put him almost on a MC movie. I'll be
Speaker 1: pretty happy.
Speaker 2: He's so good. But I really like the reveal too,
Speaker 2: because again with Travis, I felt like, while we saw
Speaker 2: the scenes with Nick Fury, obviously no we know it
Speaker 2: wasn't Nick Fury, But at the time, I was like,
Speaker 2: this just feels like maybe he's taking like a step
Speaker 2: down because they want to just give the limelight to
Speaker 2: Peter Parker, which I'm not really I don't know. I
Speaker 2: guess I'll buy it because that's what I'm giving. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, this isn't really the Nick Fear
Speaker 2: that I understand. So then when they revealed that it wasn't
Speaker 2: actually him, it just saved a lot of the things
Speaker 2: I didn't like, uh, like his scenes in the movie,
Speaker 2: so I really like that. And then yeah, Tallas is
Speaker 2: just great. I love that character and can't we for
Speaker 2: I like the.
Speaker 4: Scene in the hotel, the hotel room.
Speaker 2: Yea, so good because that room's he's so mad, and
Speaker 2: then the the real Nick Fury on the ship at
Speaker 2: the end. I also thought that was Captain Marvel, So
Speaker 2: sorry you, editorry, but what was it? The Sword that's
Speaker 2: what's called.
Speaker 1: Well they didn't say that, but there is an organization
Speaker 1: called Sword and they're like, like I said, the space Shield.
Speaker 1: So I imagine, just because we didn't get much, it's
Speaker 1: just him with a bunch of scrolls and they're working
Speaker 1: on stuff and it looks like there's quite a bit
Speaker 1: of them opposed to Captain Marvel when there was only
Speaker 1: a few of them left. Obviously, Carol got them in
Speaker 1: safety they're living and whatnot, so that could be cool.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know he was gonna turn into a Scroll,
Speaker 1: but something did catch my eye in the movie. They
Speaker 1: were talking about Creed like super or like sleeper agents
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, which is like Jude Law's character
Speaker 1: and whatnot, like that kind of race. So I don't
Speaker 1: I think they might go to that war. I don't
Speaker 1: think we're getting the secret invasion like Evil Scroll, so
Speaker 1: I'm a little disappointed by that, but it's fine. There's
Speaker 1: other great stories we can do. But I think they
Speaker 1: are setting something up. Whether that's for Captain Marvel two,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe Captain Marvel two will also reach
Speaker 1: almost like I'm trying to think, almost kind of like Loki,
Speaker 1: where Loki was in Thor and then he wouldn't Avengers.
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll do that Captain Marvel too, kind of because
Speaker 1: we still know if Captain Marvel Two's present nare a prequel.
Speaker 1: Some people have said that could be a prequel, including fivey.
Speaker 2: So yeah, like the main thing that was drawing me
Speaker 2: that it was Captain marvel Is just because Samuel Jackson
Speaker 2: and Prelarts together, they just got such good chemistry and
Speaker 2: we saw that in the first movie. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was just kind of lean on those lines and
Speaker 2: then I.
Speaker 1: Think she could be up there. I think they just
Speaker 1: didn't want to waste one of her movies on the
Speaker 1: contract for a cameo there yea, so she could end
Speaker 1: her movie. Oh you've been here the whole time.
Speaker 2: Nick.
Speaker 3: When we got that shot of Sam Jackson on the beach,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, we got another odin CGI scene.
Speaker 2: It was so funny because I was like, that is
Speaker 2: such bad cgo and then when it actually I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: they redewed themselves.
Speaker 1: But I love the Tallos scene.
Speaker 3: I was totally just shocked when I saw that, as
Speaker 3: like what, no way, but it was great.
Speaker 1: It was just please shot up, please, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: watch Spider Man.
Speaker 4: You had to wait five more seconds for the.
Speaker 1: Movie in but no.
Speaker 3: I I at first to call me off guard because
Speaker 3: when Maria Hilt changed, I was like, holy shit, why
Speaker 3: is Nick Fury not freaking out right now?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: And then there's only got one eye give him a
Speaker 3: break one eye. Yeah, when he changedes like, oh it's
Speaker 3: Talus and his wife. This is fantastic, And like I
Speaker 3: I totally thought, like, well, this could totally lead into
Speaker 3: you know, some secret invasion stuff or whatever we sell
Speaker 3: like those comics like frame comics at my work of
Speaker 3: like secret Evasion, Secret Invasion and stuff like that. And
Speaker 3: it's so weird seeing like a scrawl in Hawkeyes armor
Speaker 3: and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is cool and I would be down to
Speaker 1: see it. I think. Still, I think they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: be nice scrawls. I don't think they're gonna go that route.
Speaker 1: They may go in that round of like oh let's
Speaker 1: help like disguises, someone get across me, like what Dylan
Speaker 1: was saying. But I don't think it's ever gonna be
Speaker 1: the bad guy version because that there could be bad
Speaker 1: scrawls too. I think there could be.
Speaker 4: I just don't think they establish but there's other I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they said there's other scrawls out there, and now
Speaker 1: they own Fox so they have like the superior scrawl,
Speaker 1: so maybe that'll be a thing. I just think from
Speaker 1: that end credit scene being used very comedic. And then
Speaker 1: if you're working with a lot of them up there.
Speaker 1: There could be, but I don't think. Uh, it's just
Speaker 1: a vibe. I get we're gonna have nice guys, and yeah.
Speaker 4: How long how long do you guys think Fury's been
Speaker 4: like a scroll? Like what other movies in the MCU.
Speaker 4: When do you think he went to space? Because like
Speaker 4: obviously this stuff I watched it is like, you know
Speaker 4: this happened in the nineties.
Speaker 1: Well, I watched the video. Oh, I think it's been
Speaker 1: just after endgame. I think the funeral. Then he goes
Speaker 1: that's my Yeah, And I wouldn't want it if they
Speaker 1: revealed that that was Talus at the funeral, that would
Speaker 1: be a big disappointment, especially well especially at the last shot.
Speaker 1: The funeral is Nick Fury and it just is perfect
Speaker 1: because he went recruited Tony. So unless that was a
Speaker 1: scroll as well, I really and that's why I really
Speaker 1: they don't do that stuff. I've always said the way
Speaker 1: they should do the scrolls kind of like now is
Speaker 1: now we are in on the joke. So if there
Speaker 1: is a scroll Nick Fury, we know. But if you
Speaker 1: go to the very beginning Iron and want it's been
Speaker 1: a scrolls whole time, It's like I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's a little there's a there's a scene you can
Speaker 3: check out because in Captain Marvel he says, you know,
Speaker 3: if my toast is cut diagonally, I can't eat it
Speaker 3: or whatever. If you watch Age of Ultron, he's cutting
Speaker 3: toast in the Hawk guy's kitchen.
Speaker 1: Watch how he cuts it, and just analyzed a little bit.
Speaker 2: And tell me.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't cut it diagonally.
Speaker 3: He cut he cuts it, but it's not diagonally. And
Speaker 3: then but the thing is he rips the pieces and
Speaker 3: eats them like that. So it just makes you wonder, like, okay,
Speaker 3: is it over analyzing here or maybe that.
Speaker 1: Was you're the same that ranted about five minutes with
Speaker 1: the Tony left arm fury that was nowhere you know,
Speaker 1: you just you got it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that was in a while ago, like.
Speaker 1: She's I dealt that one because Age of Ultrons set
Speaker 1: up a bunch of stuff that never happened, because that
Speaker 1: was in the middle of like Promutter going Away, like
Speaker 1: thor Ragnok was supposed to be the super dark, like
Speaker 1: creepy movie and then it became like he was Promoter
Speaker 1: was another like partner in this thing with running Marvel
Speaker 1: Studios with them. But then they're kind of like, we
Speaker 1: just want Figgy to do it. He's the same guy
Speaker 1: that ironn Through supposed to have a female villain. Promoters like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I won't sell toys. So eventually they're like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna trust Figgy and that. So it's I don't
Speaker 1: know what, guys, Yeah, yeah, great call. So that's why he's.
Speaker 3: Still doing that, like, oh, we won't put you in
Speaker 3: the movie because it won't sell toys.
Speaker 4: I't I think it's yes, promuter, Hell yeah, it's stopping.
Speaker 1: Now we look at forst Wakens. Remember they weren't putting
Speaker 1: Ray in like the monopoly and stuff like that. I
Speaker 1: think it's starting. Weren't putting her because they what a
Speaker 1: fucking joke. I honestly think like Shusidy Cee, I honestly
Speaker 1: think Wonder Woman really changed that. And because Wonder them
Speaker 1: broke a lot of records and stuff, I think that
Speaker 1: was like, oh, we can make money with females, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's a whole fucking half the earth that wants
Speaker 1: to see these movies. You know, I didn't buy that monopoly.
Speaker 1: I would want they put her in retroactively. Everyone complained
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah you have the steal case of that monopoly. You can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah it hurts.
Speaker 2: Oh one quick thing. Uh. The one thing that I
Speaker 2: agree with you that I I really hope it was
Speaker 2: the real Nick Fury at the funeral. The one thing
Speaker 2: that worries me is that when the fake Nick Fury
Speaker 2: was in the hotel room, he shot ned the blow
Speaker 2: dart and then blow dart. Really it looked like it, right,
Speaker 2: blow dart out of a gun. And uh, but then
Speaker 2: he said, like we met at the funeral, so I
Speaker 2: might have been That's the one thing I think said.
Speaker 4: We didn't meet.
Speaker 1: He said we didn't meet because remember he said I
Speaker 1: saw you because like we were there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he was there.
Speaker 1: But unless I think he was probably talking with Tallus
Speaker 1: giving him in from That's what I'm really hoping. Talos
Speaker 1: was there as well.
Speaker 4: With the Fury is like the mysterio. He's like the
Speaker 4: director behind it, all right, He's up there with his
Speaker 4: fucking fish bowl director Fury.
Speaker 1: Talos makes a really bad joke and shows up as
Speaker 1: Tony Stark at the funeral, and itone's like.
Speaker 5: You're gonna get an ad break and then you're gonna
Speaker 5: be right back to the episode really weird.
Speaker 1: Thordish destroy is. I want to go somewhere because I
Speaker 1: I want to I want to talk.
Speaker 3: About I want to talk about before my stereio.
Speaker 1: But I thought, you know, this is not as prevalent.
Speaker 1: So I got some anime problems. This is some big
Speaker 1: cons for me. And you know what, if you think, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit about May, just a my
Speaker 1: own character, that's fine. And that's where when it comes
Speaker 1: in different adaption, it's all it works for you. For me,
Speaker 1: I love aunt May. It's kind of like an Alfred thing.
Speaker 1: It's important to the character. I think this is where
Speaker 1: some of the laziest writing gets in here because I
Speaker 1: don't understand So this homeco this homely homecoming, and it
Speaker 1: with this huge reveal of Peter being revealed to her.
Speaker 1: She's get the big cliffing, Oh what the fuck? And
Speaker 1: we've never had that movie. So I remember seeing Homecoming
Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, this is gonna be fun. Let's
Speaker 1: see this plays out. Sure you get some fun banter, Sure,
Speaker 1: oh I packed your suit in the suitcase, but we
Speaker 1: don't even get one conversation, not a flashback, nothing about it,
Speaker 1: And for me, the biggest problem is as well is
Speaker 1: in Homecoming, at one point when he was dealing with
Speaker 1: that boat that split up, he just said he was late,
Speaker 1: and when he shows up late, Aunt May's super frantic.
Speaker 1: She was calling him. She's worried, she's having an anxiety attack.
Speaker 1: You would think that same character who is worried that
Speaker 1: her nephew is just late, would be even ultra worried
Speaker 1: that it's Spider Man. Even if she's not, then why
Speaker 1: is she not? Because that makes no sense. They had
Speaker 1: a character set, they gave her motivations, and to me,
Speaker 1: that set up perfectly of oh, she's gonna be really worried.
Speaker 1: So now that she knows he's Spider Man, she's gonna
Speaker 1: be always worried of should you do this? Like you're
Speaker 1: putting your life on this. But this is just so nonchalant,
Speaker 1: And that's something I probably with the MCU Sperierman, I
Speaker 1: feel they just don't really want to get too emotional
Speaker 1: with Peter. The Ironman suffs different because it's a big
Speaker 1: depth that affects like the viewers and everyone else in
Speaker 1: the world. But seems like, you know, I'm comparing but whatever,
Speaker 1: that's life. I like to compare, and you know Taylor doesn't,
Speaker 1: so I know he's gonna give me a shit over there.
Speaker 1: But with Peter Parker when he's telling that scene of
Speaker 1: Sperman two about how he let Uncle Ben's killer go
Speaker 1: and he killed Uncle Ben and he's telling it me,
Speaker 1: it's this this five matte seeming them talking and crying.
Speaker 1: It's really emotional, and I think they just they don't
Speaker 1: want to do that because they want to keep with
Speaker 1: this team like that's me vibe. They want to keep
Speaker 1: with that fun, loving kind of vibe. And that's what
Speaker 1: doesn't work for me. And it makes no sense that
Speaker 1: they set up Aunt made to be this one character.
Speaker 1: She's a different character in the next movie, and then
Speaker 1: they don't even talk about it. And two the other
Speaker 1: thing is because I'm a big Uncle Ben fan and
Speaker 1: just that idea still not really talked about, and they
Speaker 1: it reminded me of Quicksilver in Dark Phoenix minor spoiler.
Speaker 1: They set up a fucking home run. She's starting to
Speaker 1: finally date. Now would be the time, like, Hey, I
Speaker 1: haven't met anyone since your uncle, but Happy, he's a
Speaker 1: really nice guy, Like he makes me happy. Open Tent
Speaker 1: like there's multiple like ways to bring up him being
Speaker 1: Spiderman or Uncle Ben, and it just bugs me. And
Speaker 1: that's why it's an adaptation. They're not doing it. That's
Speaker 1: fine if you enjoy that, but for me, I still
Speaker 1: want that, and it just is it's very The Uncle
Speaker 1: Ben's stuff fine, but the Aunt May stuff really bugs
Speaker 1: me because they set this whole thing up on Homecoming
Speaker 1: and they just abandon it to like He's fun.
Speaker 3: And you know, I think at this point in time,
Speaker 3: you know, they did that with Homecoming, but then after
Speaker 3: you know, Infinity War and then Endgame, we got two
Speaker 3: really huge movies where I feel like those events would definitely,
Speaker 3: whether there's some dynamic or not with that May, those
Speaker 3: two events would have definitely made May feel comfortable that
Speaker 3: he is fighting.
Speaker 1: Why not have her say that because this is already
Speaker 1: this is already such a long time after Homecoming, like
Speaker 1: really not really though it's not in like five years though,
Speaker 1: well it is, but she not. For her, she didn't
Speaker 1: get snapped, so she is the same contunity as he does.
Speaker 1: And for us, it's only been two years since Homecoming.
Speaker 1: If she didn't she didn't get sapped, yeah, then did
Speaker 1: get snaped?
Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, well if she did, yeah, then it would
Speaker 3: have been at the same time, would have been pretty quick.
Speaker 3: But then even then, I feel I feel like she
Speaker 3: would have felt justified in his actions, that he is
Speaker 3: one of the reasons that she came back, you know.
Speaker 1: But then I think that conversation needs to happen. It
Speaker 1: shouldn't be. You have to tell me that. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense to set her up as this character who's
Speaker 1: frantically worried about her nephew just being late, even before
Speaker 1: she knows the Spider Man too. He is out there
Speaker 1: fucking fighting everything. Get your suit, just something. But they
Speaker 1: don't even talk about. There's even one more I can't remember.
Speaker 1: He screws up and she goes, oh, it's fine that
Speaker 1: you've had a he does something wrong, It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's fine, you deserve a break or whatever. It's just
Speaker 1: they're constantly anytime there's stakes like that in these movies,
Speaker 1: they just pull them away from Peter. That's why I
Speaker 1: like the mysterial thing. But other than that, they just
Speaker 1: handle them with kid gloves, like there's no consequences to
Speaker 1: his actions. Because I just think they don't want you
Speaker 1: to deal with that, and that happened a lot in
Speaker 1: Homecoming too, just everything is like why is he late?
Speaker 1: Why it's like nothing's really he gets no punishment whatsoever,
Speaker 1: just very breezy. And that's why I worry we'll get
Speaker 1: in the end creds. But like that reveal, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna really go the way it is because
Speaker 1: the Homecoming ended with this huge reveal of aunt me.
Speaker 1: If to me, that's where I don't buy what you're
Speaker 1: saying it is because if they ended the movie like that,
Speaker 1: that to me is a major pallpoint. You don't end
Speaker 1: the movie like that if it's gonna be nothing your
Speaker 1: second movie, She's she's nothing in this movie.
Speaker 4: She's comedic.
Speaker 1: Really, it didn't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I really liked him in the movie and that,
Speaker 3: like I definitely overlooked it, And maybe it was just
Speaker 3: you know, grooming from the trailers or whatever they showed it.
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't going in there expecting, Okay, where's that
Speaker 3: dynamic scene between Peter being Spider Man and at may
Speaker 3: give me that scene?
Speaker 1: Like I didn't. I wasn't let down at all with that.
Speaker 3: And I for me personally, I really liked how she
Speaker 3: was so pro Spider man, and I loved it, like
Speaker 3: that scene when the suit was in there with the
Speaker 3: note and I just I like jumped in my seat,
Speaker 3: like oh no, And even the reaction Peter gave it
Speaker 3: was just it was fantastic. And I I at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, though, I mean, it's not something
Speaker 3: that I'll probably like sweat too much over because there's
Speaker 3: just to me, like, yes, she was snapped, but there
Speaker 3: and Peter was snapped too, but there's just so much
Speaker 3: of a time period that changed the world and everything
Speaker 3: like that, and I don't know I can get over that.
Speaker 4: I think I'm more on Travis's side because she doesn't
Speaker 4: have any meaningful conversation in this whole movie. Like I
Speaker 4: think the best stuff from her in the first movie
Speaker 4: was between her and Tony and so obviously you can't
Speaker 4: really have that dynamic anymore. And that wasn't even like
Speaker 4: deep conversation either. That was just more comedic relief, but
Speaker 4: it was it was fun to see that dynamic. And
Speaker 4: I do kind of like the stuff between her and Happy.
Speaker 4: I think it's it's kind of funny, but yeah, it's
Speaker 4: like her character really doesn't have any depth and it's
Speaker 4: definitely lacking that emotional attachment that Emme always has for
Speaker 4: this character and like other every other form of Spider
Speaker 4: Man I've ever.
Speaker 1: Seen, even the game, Like think about how much they
Speaker 1: hit you with that. You know, she's just such a
Speaker 1: big character and this just feels she's just.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Peter's always he's always different around her because that's
Speaker 4: like that's his only family, and it's kind of like
Speaker 4: this twisted relationship. And yeah, there's like this big trauma
Speaker 4: there with Uncle Ben, which we still don't know about,
Speaker 4: so there's yeah, there's it's just too bad that I'm
Speaker 4: fine with it, being like a younger at me that
Speaker 4: has nothing to do with it. It's just that they
Speaker 4: don't really want to do anything with her, which kind
Speaker 4: of sucks. It's like you almost could have not had
Speaker 4: an anime and this continuity or something.
Speaker 1: And why I get an actress that is she's won
Speaker 1: in an Oscar before, Like, why I get an actress
Speaker 1: of that caliber? When they cast her, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna Oscar winning actress. You're gonna give her some
Speaker 1: really meaty stuff to do here, and it's, you know,
Speaker 1: good for her. It's getting a paycheck, that's nice, but
Speaker 1: it's just it's strange to go. You could get almost
Speaker 1: any no name for this role.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I do like the supportive, like the dynamic of
Speaker 4: anime being supportive of Spider Man. I think that's cool.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't. I don't think there's anything wrong
Speaker 4: with like her still being worried about him and being supportive, right,
Speaker 4: Like that's they shouldn't have to be separate things. And
Speaker 4: I know it's tricky because he's not in America in
Speaker 4: this movie. So maybe like when they get back, they're
Speaker 4: gonna have some more of like her dynamic, but maybe
Speaker 4: they won't. Maybe she'll just always kind of stick like this,
Speaker 4: And if she does, then I'm unfortunately she's just another
Speaker 4: flat character when they when there's already quite a few
Speaker 4: of those in this movie and the first movie.
Speaker 3: I have to say, I really really liked when she
Speaker 3: just whipped that banana at his head.
Speaker 2: You really really liked it.
Speaker 1: I really really liked it. Okay, it was fine. I
Speaker 1: created the Peter Tingle, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That maze stuff. I feel like I'm kind of in
Speaker 2: the middle because I I feel like it was a
Speaker 2: missed opportunity for them to have like a sentimental conversation
Speaker 2: like in the beginning of the movie, because that was
Speaker 2: when they're actually together as opposed to like right at
Speaker 2: the end. But like especially I don't know, just mention
Speaker 2: like stuff that happened in endgame or just like I
Speaker 2: don't know, it just felt like a huge thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's it felt like a very like, uh, lost
Speaker 2: opportunity for me, and like even like in that moment
Speaker 2: when I was watching it and then uh, sorry, like
Speaker 2: when they they send off, so obviously they're not uh
Speaker 2: I'm butchering my words right now, but but but he
Speaker 2: goes to Europe, she remains in America, so they're not together.
Speaker 2: I just as soon as that happened, I was just like, oh,
Speaker 2: that was kind of like like hopefully we get something
Speaker 2: back like later on in the which we didn't end
Speaker 2: up really getting. And I don't know, I felt like
Speaker 2: it didn't bug me as much because of what Dylan said,
Speaker 2: like they are in different places. Like if this whole
Speaker 2: movie was in New York and the same thing happen
Speaker 2: where they don't even talk about it, that would have
Speaker 2: been really hard to digest. And but this one, I'm
Speaker 2: kind of giving it a break for that. But I
Speaker 2: definitely understand, like the problems with it, and I do
Speaker 2: agree to a certain extent that I don't know. I
Speaker 2: I do understand the importance of ant may have a
Speaker 2: character in the in the Spider Man, just I don't
Speaker 2: know anything to do with Spider Man. Yeah, the mythos.
Speaker 2: That's a good burd I like that one. But you know,
Speaker 2: she's just she's really an important character to Peter, you know,
Speaker 2: and like it really like builds that character. So I'm
Speaker 2: hoping in the next movie we do get to see
Speaker 2: some more just fleshed out things with her. And I
Speaker 2: don't know, but for this one, I'm kind of giving
Speaker 2: it a pass, mainly because they were in different places,
Speaker 2: but definitely could have been better.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sorry, we're gonna say something else there. Oh okay, anybody
Speaker 3: I was gonna say. I think, you know, sometimes you
Speaker 3: gotta when you have a lot of sequels established or
Speaker 3: on the way. I think he got to like give
Speaker 3: and take in trade with different films. I think the
Speaker 3: first one, Homecoming had a lot of that kind of
Speaker 3: dynamic and a lot of that care where he was
Speaker 3: worried about a may after all she's been through and
Speaker 3: all that stuff, and even then moments like where you
Speaker 3: know he was trapped under the rubble and he had
Speaker 3: to like it was a really you know, emotional moment
Speaker 3: when he was trying to just gain that confidence and
Speaker 3: just push up.
Speaker 1: Out of it.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, you know, a lot of those
Speaker 3: scenes that weren't in this movie. I think we got
Speaker 3: things in both movies that we didn't get at the
Speaker 3: same time in each other movies. So like what we
Speaker 3: did and didn't get in Homecoming, we didn't get, but
Speaker 3: we did get in Far from Home.
Speaker 4: So I feel like, I guess just look at it,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, Okay, I would have taken Nedosm. I
Speaker 4: would take the teacher out. Haven't at may scene that
Speaker 4: actually has like impact on the story or some emotional attachment.
Speaker 4: So that's where I see like there's I feel like
Speaker 4: there's a lot of filler in this movie and the
Speaker 4: like introducing that whole gym teacher character who just says
Speaker 4: which five times like take him out completely and boom,
Speaker 4: you just gained yourself two minutes that you can have
Speaker 4: like one emotional scene. Well that may so if there
Speaker 4: wasn't so much like kind of I feel like I
Speaker 4: don't want to say Crab sounds really bad. But yeah,
Speaker 4: like if there's a lot, yeah, it wasn't so much fodder,
Speaker 4: just kind of packed them in this movie. Maybe I
Speaker 4: could understand that better. But as it's the like, if
Speaker 4: this is the anime, that is, if this is all
Speaker 4: anme ever is and she's just like this and all
Speaker 4: the rest of the movies, then I'm gonna be pretty
Speaker 4: disappointed with it.
Speaker 3: I don't think it will be. I mean, if the
Speaker 3: rumors will be, I don't know. I think they'll definitely,
Speaker 3: you know, I think the next movie. You know, we
Speaker 3: didn't get much in this, but I think we'll definitely
Speaker 3: get a lot more in the next, you know. I
Speaker 3: think as Peter gets older, I think they're gonna kind
Speaker 3: of tidbit a little bit more into like Uncle Ben's
Speaker 3: story and what happened there. And I think it's just
Speaker 3: a matter of time I think they're doing. They're choosing
Speaker 3: set things first and then they're gonna dive more into
Speaker 3: the mythos.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand, because that, to me, then it's
Speaker 1: poor filmmaking. You're talking about there, send things up, then
Speaker 1: dive in the mythos. That's what Homecoming was. It was
Speaker 1: this big setup end on a cliffhanger to dive into.
Speaker 1: And that's for me, why this movie it feels I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if it is a so any thing, but
Speaker 1: MC is always building upon the sequels. They don't do
Speaker 1: that where it's like, oh, one sequel, give and take
Speaker 1: and give and take. They're always following up. So for
Speaker 1: me to them just kind of drop storylines and fill
Speaker 1: them with kind of like what nonsense like Dylan was
Speaker 1: referring to, I don't think we're gonna get I don't
Speaker 1: think you'll ever see Uncle Ben in these movies. Cast it.
Speaker 1: I don't think you might get a mention it. Even
Speaker 1: then it's just like hurt aiding happy. It's this. You
Speaker 1: could be a scene, it could be a conversation which
Speaker 1: like oh, you tour together, and they kind of quit
Speaker 1: back and forth and Peter's like, I gotta go, and
Speaker 1: it's a really weird scene if he sits them down,
Speaker 1: says we really need to talk, and then he leaves
Speaker 1: ten seconds after. It's just like, what's going on here?
Speaker 1: I think he knew what he was gonna get them into.
Speaker 1: I think he knew they were no I know, But
Speaker 1: that's where it's just for me, it's like poor editing
Speaker 1: and writing, because it's just you feel like you're gonna
Speaker 1: get more. And that's the thing. It's all I think
Speaker 1: other than Peter and it maybe MJ eventually, I feel
Speaker 1: like everyone's just very surface level. And that's what sucks
Speaker 1: because I think Spiderman has some of the best characters
Speaker 1: and they're not really using them. If you think about
Speaker 1: stuff like Harry Ned, it's just like what we were
Speaker 1: talking about, He's just a joke. He's just a comedic being.
Speaker 1: I'm not even a big Ned fan, but still I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna become a bigger Ned fan of him. His
Speaker 1: whole storyline, he's with this girl and then what happens
Speaker 1: is he breaks up with the girl. So it just
Speaker 1: feels like an episode of TV and MC who does
Speaker 1: feel like that, but it feels like one of the
Speaker 1: laser ones of like, oh, we gotta the Netflix, we
Speaker 1: gotta fill out the thirteen, you know. So it's just
Speaker 1: like that's the shame. And I don't think they will.
Speaker 1: I think uh At May will stay like this and
Speaker 1: she'll stay because I don't really I like these Spider movies,
Speaker 1: but I don't think they're really delivering on these emotional stuff.
Speaker 1: They won't be fun and get the plushies and all
Speaker 1: this stuff and text and blah blah blah and yeah,
Speaker 1: which is okay, it can't be If you like that,
Speaker 1: it's great for you.
Speaker 2: Just this is totally jumping back, but I forgot to
Speaker 2: shout this out. The scene when he gets the glasses,
Speaker 2: like when Nick Feary gives it to him. I really
Speaker 2: like that scene, but I would have preferred him not
Speaker 2: wearing a mask. It's kind of like the Kylo Ren effect,
Speaker 2: how like you want to see that emotion that Tom
Speaker 2: Hallan can bring because I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 2: you would have been tearing up under behind that mass, right,
Speaker 2: there's a super nippicky thing that I had a shout out.
Speaker 2: And then the other scene I also really was not
Speaker 2: a fan of, Like whatsoever was the buzz scene when
Speaker 2: Peter brings in like the kill bot to like kill Brad.
Speaker 2: I I just really didn't like it.
Speaker 1: I liked the ideas, but it seemed way too.
Speaker 2: Over the top and definitely very like like almost killed
Speaker 2: his whole class, and it's just like I don't know,
Speaker 2: like obviously mistakes happened, but it just felt I felt,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just I didn't like it.
Speaker 3: I agree, I'm surprised. I thought that scene was amazing.
Speaker 3: I thought how it just went from one to one
Speaker 3: hundred and the drone comes out of the satellites like
Speaker 3: holy ship, Like he's he's gotta like get a handle
Speaker 3: on this tech here, and like, I love those specs.
Speaker 1: I really want to order a pair off of eBay,
Speaker 1: Like there's I don't aren't real.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah they said that, and it's one hundred percent
Speaker 3: connected to the satellite.
Speaker 1: Just kidding.
Speaker 2: But like when he jumps out of the van and
Speaker 2: then like shoots down the drone, I thought that was
Speaker 2: when H MJ would have like noticed, because I don't
Speaker 2: know that was just they did. They didn't mention.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was maybe she was the only one. I'm
Speaker 1: still looking at Peter.
Speaker 4: I felt like it was just jump ten ft in
Speaker 4: the air well.
Speaker 2: She didn't mention that drone. I didn't mention that though.
Speaker 2: When they're on the bridge, like she mentioned Washington. She
Speaker 2: met all these things, and I feel like, for the
Speaker 2: type of character she is, she wouldn't really care about
Speaker 2: baby goats. Like I don't know, I just feel like
Speaker 2: she wouldn't. I agree, Yeah, so she would just be in.
Speaker 4: That many people would care about baby.
Speaker 1: I would.
Speaker 2: I would totally. Look.
Speaker 4: I think every single person on that bus cares about baby.
Speaker 2: I can't speak for everyone that would be on my bus,
Speaker 2: but I would be.
Speaker 1: I think he's right about though, he's right about m J. Yeah,
Speaker 1: funk about no baby.
Speaker 2: No exactly. And like she would have just been in
Speaker 2: the back just watching Peter because she liked him, not
Speaker 2: just because she thought he was Spider Man, which we
Speaker 2: found it later. It was just certain stuff like that
Speaker 2: I had irks with, but those big mysterial moments kind
Speaker 2: of kind of outweigh that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I have a couple of random thoughts. I like
Speaker 4: the two new suits that we get in this movie,
Speaker 4: both the band suit too, do you see it fresh?
Speaker 1: Oh? When it was scroll?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the real iron real quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't do it.
Speaker 4: And as my nickname alluded to it, like the night
Speaker 4: monkey joke, that's a fun one when he.
Speaker 2: Was watching the news too. Yeah, like they don't even
Speaker 2: translate in English, but you can kind of figure out
Speaker 2: what it says.
Speaker 4: Yeah, monkey, like mysterial what's his name?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 4: And I like that during that the mysterio trippy sequence,
Speaker 4: there's that quick flashback of the this homemade suit. I
Speaker 4: like seeing that as well. So those are just you know,
Speaker 4: you got that's a big part of Spider Man, has
Speaker 4: all the different suits that he has, especially playing like
Speaker 4: the video game, which has like twenty or thirty different ones.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it was cool to see a few different
Speaker 4: ones in there. I like when he's making his new suit,
Speaker 4: I was I was gonna say a fun secret, like
Speaker 4: we already mentioned that, very very tony stark. Yeah exactly,
Speaker 4: and like he was just like just editing like everything,
Speaker 4: like the different webs and stuff you could do. I'm like, man,
Speaker 4: like they add that in the video game where you
Speaker 4: can customize your own Spider suit.
Speaker 2: Let's Go.
Speaker 4: You sometimes forget that he's really smart and like tech
Speaker 4: and like technology, Like they don't go into that as
Speaker 4: much like they kind of started off in Uh, I
Speaker 4: guess Civil Wars first movie. He's got like he's like
Speaker 4: hacking gear and stuff like that in his room, but
Speaker 4: you don't really get a ton of that. So it
Speaker 4: was fun to see. I mean, I guess you get
Speaker 4: the earlier in the movie as well, when he's talking
Speaker 4: to Mysterio about the alternate and he just totally understands.
Speaker 4: So we get a couple moments of that, and it's
Speaker 4: a good reminder that he like as much as he
Speaker 4: comes off of like a loof sometimes and giving those
Speaker 4: glasses away to Mysterio risky move. He is really smart,
Speaker 4: you know, tech wise.
Speaker 2: I love in that scene too, and Mysterious like never
Speaker 2: apologize for being the smartest guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so good.
Speaker 5: You're gonna get an ad break and then you're gonna
Speaker 5: be right back to the episode.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of any other like I got scenes.
Speaker 4: I don't know about particular scenes, but there's two big
Speaker 4: things that we sort of got to talk about.
Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, this is a quick like thing on the show.
Speaker 1: Show is some editing. I didn't really like the beginning scene.
Speaker 1: I was not a fan of just twenty seconds of
Speaker 1: Marine Hill they've showed to Mexico and like, I think
Speaker 1: a Hydroman pops up first. You don't want to part
Speaker 1: of this. I don't know why it needed to be there.
Speaker 1: But also there was many times where when Massiro sacrifices
Speaker 1: himself the first time he's on the ground, and then
Speaker 1: there's just like a hard cut and Nick furious, just
Speaker 1: like standing right over him, like you we really need
Speaker 1: something like you. You could be on the Avengers. And
Speaker 1: then later on when he goes to that Spider Man
Speaker 1: goes through that trippy stuff and he beats Mysterio and
Speaker 1: then he's like on the ground hurting and they cut
Speaker 1: and Nick Fiurry's just right there. Again, there's multiple times
Speaker 1: where it felt like when you're stroll Man's it felt
Speaker 1: like there's multiple times where when you were playing a
Speaker 1: video game and you like skip a couple of dialogue
Speaker 1: trees and whatnot. That's what it felt like. There's many
Speaker 1: times where we're not the pacing of the movie, but
Speaker 1: just the pacing of the scene. It was edited very poorly,
Speaker 1: and it's all those kind of conversations things where it's
Speaker 1: just it felt like there was stuff missing, and that's
Speaker 1: where it felt kind of it sounds really bad, but
Speaker 1: amateur hour. At times, it felt like they the first time,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, maybe some shots just got lost,
Speaker 1: but then they did a few more times. So for me,
Speaker 1: it reminded me in bad comparison, but remind me of
Speaker 1: Batman vs. Supman sometimes, of the editing of just like
Speaker 1: scenes randomly being spiced here and it was. It was
Speaker 1: very poor editing, so not the whole way, but just
Speaker 1: certain instances, which is again kind of strange because I
Speaker 1: was watching Homecoming and that didn't have that problem. So
Speaker 1: I'd have to look and see I should look.
Speaker 4: At this, and I didn't notice any but I trust
Speaker 4: your keen film eyes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's couple like CGI scenes that wasn't really a
Speaker 2: fan It just looked a little off for me, Like, uh,
Speaker 2: there's a scene. I think it's when Peter's like in
Speaker 2: his civilian clothes. He might have a mask on, but
Speaker 2: he does like this little like like he swings up
Speaker 2: onto a roof and kind of is a flip and
Speaker 2: it just looks really like not not like not what
Speaker 2: I'm used to seeing in like an MC movie. So
Speaker 2: just had to mention it. Oh, I had something I
Speaker 2: was gonna mention, Uh, someone scene, someone else, a big thing,
Speaker 2: someone else, do some filler second thing.
Speaker 1: If we got nothing else, we're gonna jump on the
Speaker 1: big thing.
Speaker 4: The two topics.
Speaker 2: Okay, well I forgot what I was gonna say. But
Speaker 2: since we're on the topic near the end, I don't
Speaker 2: think this was an end credit scene when Oh no,
Speaker 2: it is when Peter swinging through the city with like
Speaker 2: on his date with m I gotta say, just seeing
Speaker 2: Tom Holland like in actually New York, it gets me
Speaker 2: so excited for a movie when he's actually like swinging
Speaker 2: around through the city, you know, like because like in Homecoming,
Speaker 2: there wasn't that much suburbs. Yeah, exactly. And then this
Speaker 2: one obviously using Europe. So that end scene when he
Speaker 2: when he's swinging around like the huge skyscrapers totally felt
Speaker 2: like a PS four Spider Man game. And then also
Speaker 2: just like a Toby because that's what Toby was doing right,
Speaker 2: just swinging through New York. Like I'm just so excited
Speaker 2: to see Tom Holland in that scene.
Speaker 4: Like I zoomed in they were in the swinging scene.
Speaker 4: It's kind of fun.
Speaker 3: I have one thing I want to say in regards
Speaker 3: to that scene. So one of the buildings that he
Speaker 3: went over, it had like a like a green turquoise
Speaker 3: colored roof. Was that the building that was Harry like
Speaker 3: Osbourne's building from the what do you call it? The
Speaker 3: Semami Spider I would say the roof looked identical to
Speaker 3: like and we know we get lots of those aerial
Speaker 3: shots of their building could be, but I don't think it's.
Speaker 1: I think it could be a building in New York.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're trying to imply that goes in there. No,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think thought it was just like a fun
Speaker 3: you know, a fun little.
Speaker 1: Back to formula. There is a fun Easter egg though,
Speaker 1: so because we speculate if Oz Corporating thing is gonna
Speaker 1: be in there, it's not. But on the Avengers tower
Speaker 1: that was bought, when he's swinging past that, there's a
Speaker 1: sign that says we can't show you what's next, And
Speaker 1: then in between the letters there's a one to two
Speaker 1: and a three, and then there's a question mark. So
Speaker 1: that could be phase one, phase two, phase three, or
Speaker 1: it could be one, two, three four for Fantastic four.
Speaker 1: And it's weird that there's some billboard on this building
Speaker 1: saying we can't show you what's next. So comic kombay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be covering that shit that is into They
Speaker 1: had a tower in New York, didn't they, Baxter building.
Speaker 1: So that's why when Yeah and Homecoming everyone said it's
Speaker 1: other Oscore Baxter building. But that was at the time
Speaker 1: when Fox still had Fantastic four. But now when they do,
Speaker 1: that's a billboard is easy to see GI at any point,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I think, uh, and that's always I
Speaker 1: think we've all agreed that I think Fantastic four is
Speaker 1: before X Men.
Speaker 3: So you think that when we get the DVD digital
Speaker 3: release of Spider Man Far from Home, when we watch it,
Speaker 3: I'll say, Baxter building this CGI.
Speaker 1: Tr No, oh no, they're not gonna go. No.
Speaker 2: I know we were talking about like the dynamic between
Speaker 2: Deadpool and Spider Man and how good that one is,
Speaker 2: but I just can't wait for that Johnny Storm Spider Man.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well, technically I don't know if people know this,
Speaker 1: but Sperman actually debuted in the issue of Fantastic four.
Speaker 1: That's where it wasn't Sperman really is. That's interesting, and
Speaker 1: so he has lots of ties here in the sixties,
Speaker 1: like sixty three or something. It's a long time ago
Speaker 1: because Fantastic four was like, they're called Marvel's first Family.
Speaker 1: They're technically the Superman. They were the first Marvel comic. Interesting,
Speaker 1: so maybe they helped Peter fight the Sinister six. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe let's talk about that right now. So we got
Speaker 1: two post credit scenes. Let's just start with there's the
Speaker 1: big plot one. Let's just start with the fanboy one first,
Speaker 1: because this is exciting. If you go check out our
Speaker 1: final predictions for Sperman Far from Home here come. If
Speaker 1: I ever had to say hashtag trash told you, because man,
Speaker 1: it was so good to see Jay Simmons back. It
Speaker 1: threw me off with them not having the hair. To
Speaker 1: be honest, I had to do a double take. But
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's perfect. I do hope
Speaker 1: we get some scenes. I'm going to talk about that after,
Speaker 1: so I hope that because he's this Fox News sort
Speaker 1: of guy, that it's not he's just always on the side.
Speaker 1: But if he is, I will still take it. If
Speaker 1: it said, hey Jonah, just don't side or no Jonah,
Speaker 1: I'd still take it even if he doesn't know. Competer
Speaker 1: so fantastic. The sterio is the greatest Heroal Welt. I'm
Speaker 1: ready and he bettered me inspirement three like in a role.
Speaker 1: So yeah, very hype.
Speaker 2: It blew my mind honestly, Like I knew there's some
Speaker 2: like minor talks, but.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You don't want to you don't want to eat leak
Speaker 2: I don't know believe those WITHO would actually get it.
Speaker 2: So as soon as I saw him, I just cheered,
Speaker 2: Oh man, I was so like hyped.
Speaker 4: The theater popped off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so awesome. I love that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm super stoked. And it's like they really built
Speaker 4: up to it too, because he's like flying through the city.
Speaker 4: He like takes a photo. There's even like a shot
Speaker 4: through a building that I think that is the Daily Bugle,
Speaker 4: Like it's very quick. I'm guessing that's what it was.
Speaker 4: And then like even just like there's like a news broadcast,
Speaker 4: everyone looks over to it. I don't know. I was
Speaker 4: totally blown away. It's it's so funny because we did
Speaker 4: our you know, our fan cast, and that was as
Speaker 4: I mentioned this a couple of times now, but that
Speaker 4: was the character. Like none of us were like this
Speaker 4: doesn't like none of these really fit. I hated my
Speaker 4: pick person. I was like, no, I can't see anyone
Speaker 4: else doing this role. Like it just sucked it, Like
Speaker 4: I don't know, like what are they gonna do with
Speaker 4: this character? But they did the best like the ideal scenario,
Speaker 4: and it just makes me super curious with the continuity
Speaker 4: of that is like, are is it the same universes
Speaker 4: some multidimensional stuff? Are they just ignoring?
Speaker 1: I think they're just I think that's why he doesn't
Speaker 1: have the hair, because I think they want to say
Speaker 1: that it's just stunt casting, and hey, we know everyone
Speaker 1: wanting him back. He's playing our Jonah. He has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with those over there, especially because there was
Speaker 1: no dimensions in this movie. So I think that it's just, hey,
Speaker 1: we know you guys want him back, so he's back
Speaker 1: as our new Jonah.
Speaker 4: But I don't think they knew as well as us
Speaker 4: that no one else was gonna do that role.
Speaker 1: And that's what The interviews haven't come out yet. It's
Speaker 1: just a podcast I follow that interviewed him, but John
Speaker 1: wats apparently, he says they'll be coming out Sunday, when
Speaker 1: they can really spoil the interviews with the cast and directors.
Speaker 1: He said there was no one else they were thinking of,
Speaker 1: which hopes gives me hope that he will be in
Speaker 1: the third one more. But they said they didn't even
Speaker 1: think about recasting it, which could be lie, but I
Speaker 1: honestly believe that because that's just very daunting. He's just
Speaker 1: for that role.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I wonder like Spidy was taking photo
Speaker 4: m or he took I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think he is a journalist newspaper In fact.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't get that. I didn't get the vibe.
Speaker 4: And like it's hard if he's if everyone knows who
Speaker 4: he is as well, Right.
Speaker 1: I have a theory to talk about Jonah, and then
Speaker 1: we'll get into that part.
Speaker 3: I really really enjoyed, you know, singing pop up and
Speaker 3: I love the whole conspiracy theorist news anchor kind of
Speaker 3: role he was, you know, portrayed as felt very different
Speaker 3: and very fresh. I I just when he was taking
Speaker 3: the pictures, I got that vibe like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe he's doing some photography. And then as soon as
Speaker 3: you know, uh, Jonah popped up. I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, like you know, this is it's all the
Speaker 3: dots are intertwining. Now they're connecting, and uh, I just
Speaker 3: I I really want to see the dialogue between those
Speaker 3: two characters, Tom Holland, Peter Parker and J. J.
Speaker 1: Jamison because it's just great.
Speaker 3: Like I just I I started pulling up like clips
Speaker 3: of you know, Sam Raimi's j Jonah Jamison or it's
Speaker 3: just laughing and just all the great stuff and I
Speaker 3: just want to sell see that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's iconic. I want to see that with you know,
Speaker 1: Peter Parker.
Speaker 3: But like we said in the are like predictions cast like,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard because with Toby McGuire and Jamison,
Speaker 3: like Tomy McGuire just has that innocent awkward like you can, yeah,
Speaker 3: you can.
Speaker 1: Insult him and he's just gonna take it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Jesus is down do good or down to earth to
Speaker 3: his core. But like when you throw in like Peter Parker,
Speaker 3: Tom Hollands, Peter Parker, he's like he's so different and
Speaker 3: he's so like snappy and talking. But I can see
Speaker 3: him walking into like the office and like picking things
Speaker 3: up like well this is cool, and Jonah like yelling
Speaker 3: at him and freaking out, you know, And I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just I can't wait to see.
Speaker 3: Where they go, uh, where they go with that. It's
Speaker 3: just it's gonna be super exciting.
Speaker 1: I'll ask you this. So you're gonna be disappointed if
Speaker 1: we don't get scenes of them together because to me,
Speaker 1: what we're gonna talk about next, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's a possibility with him being known as Spider Man. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't I honestly don't think they're gonna take that
Speaker 1: approach of them.
Speaker 2: How disguise some glasses on changes his name to.
Speaker 1: Maybe.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna happen, but maybe is it true?
Speaker 3: Because one of the reviews I was watching, they said,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: They said that this has happened.
Speaker 3: Before, and it's been dealt with in ways where everyone, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: you can definitely come up with a solution of like, no,
Speaker 3: mysterial is line that guy tried to kill everyone?
Speaker 4: Why would you believe him?
Speaker 3: I'm not well, but for my sterio, it's actually and
Speaker 3: that dropped like a name drop for who the identity
Speaker 3: is of the superhero. I feel like that's very like
Speaker 3: spot on that many people.
Speaker 1: You don't see his face in that video, That's what
Speaker 1: I was gonna mention, you did never see he shows
Speaker 1: Peter Parker, but in the video of him executing the people,
Speaker 1: it's cut off and you don't see his head.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the one like the voice, but you know there's.
Speaker 2: But it's also like I feel like his classmates are
Speaker 2: going to be looking at him and being like, this
Speaker 2: guy kind.
Speaker 4: Of sona, it's not gonna be ignored.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, that so you just don't talk now
Speaker 1: we're talking about the final end.
Speaker 4: Creativity or the first actually one quick question. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: idea that like Jonah is doing like a podcast or
Speaker 4: something like it was done in the video game as well,
Speaker 4: and then it was also I started playing the lego
Speaker 4: like Marvel one of them, and Jonah is like the same,
Speaker 4: he's like the same kind of character. Is that did
Speaker 4: they do that in the comics like in recent times?
Speaker 4: Is that what Jonah is?
Speaker 1: Kind of he's not really around that much like he was.
Speaker 4: I think like even just the idea of like a
Speaker 4: newspaper isn't really.
Speaker 1: No, not really much of the day, right, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: there's sounds where like ant Me was dating like his
Speaker 1: brother or something, so he was kind of kept around
Speaker 1: in the family that way. Okay, so they found different
Speaker 1: ways to keep him in the comic books. But I
Speaker 1: think the newspaper's kind of dead because.
Speaker 4: But have they have they done like specifically like a
Speaker 4: podcast sort of storyline in the comic not.
Speaker 1: Not really a storyline, and if I think it's more
Speaker 1: the website, but I don't think a podcast. I think
Speaker 1: the podcast was pretty exclusive too. I can't remember Lego Marvel,
Speaker 1: but I think the game.
Speaker 4: I think he's pretty much like a conspiracy theorist in
Speaker 4: the In the Lego game.
Speaker 1: He's Alex Jones, if you know who that is. I
Speaker 1: know it's political, but so yeah, this end credit scene,
Speaker 1: which is it is and cred scene, but really it
Speaker 1: just feels like it they didn't have another one. They
Speaker 1: just cut the end of the movie and then did that.
Speaker 1: It's fine, but it's kind of strange. So the big
Speaker 1: reveal is Mysterio has doctors some things that make it
Speaker 1: look like Spider Man executed all these people and was
Speaker 1: ahead of it and he killed Mysterio, which I really
Speaker 1: like because that's a class like that's just fits Mastio's character.
Speaker 1: It set him up saying, Hey, anyone's gonna believe anything nowadays,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna believe what they want to. For me,
Speaker 1: it's a I don't know, I don't I like the
Speaker 1: Mysterio aspect. I actually don't like either way it goes,
Speaker 1: because I feel it's almost like the Antme thing and
Speaker 1: where they were really Spider Man and then then Spider
Speaker 1: Man three he's not that and it's like oh well,
Speaker 1: we just we just kind of, oh, we found a
Speaker 1: fun way out of it. We didn't see his face,
Speaker 1: and it's not him, even though, like Kirkland said, so
Speaker 1: many people be like that makes complete sense or we
Speaker 1: get that he is just full on Peter Parker, and
Speaker 1: I just think that's really early, and that to me
Speaker 1: takes away a lot of like the things I like
Speaker 1: about Homecoming, that class dynamic him and MJ. That's completely
Speaker 1: gone now if he's on the on and I don't
Speaker 1: even think it fits as far as I feel like
Speaker 1: enough excuse me, enough Avengers would stand up and say, hey,
Speaker 1: he was with us at dan Batt I'll he like,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna believe this. So it was
Speaker 1: fun to get to Jonah, but I don't actually really
Speaker 1: like where we're heading with Spierman through theory. But I'm
Speaker 1: not a fan of either way we go.
Speaker 4: I think the I think the plan here is that
Speaker 4: he just is. He just joins the Avengers, right and
Speaker 4: he's just like a part of the Avengers now, like
Speaker 4: full time, and that makes sense. He can like have
Speaker 4: his identity revealed like like Iron Man, right, like obviously
Speaker 4: a lot of those comparisons were made in this movie,
Speaker 4: and I feel like that's maybe like the path they're
Speaker 4: going for, and I agree with you. It's like there's
Speaker 4: just some fun stuff of like Peter and Spider that
Speaker 4: you never there's always like some characters that figure it
Speaker 4: out or I mean rarely actually in other stuff I've seen,
Speaker 4: like most people don't really know that, like you're already
Speaker 4: in Homecoming, they did that more than like most other
Speaker 4: iterations of the character that I've seen, But like something
Speaker 4: like a Jonah where Peter's like getting all these photos
Speaker 4: from Spider Man, like you're not you can't get that
Speaker 4: anymore because it's like, well they that guy said you're
Speaker 4: you're you're a Spider Man, so obviously that's where you're
Speaker 4: getting these photos from. So you're already like there's just
Speaker 4: some stuff we're never gonna be able to get anymore
Speaker 4: with this universe, because that idea is out there even
Speaker 4: if people don't believe it at large, and they go
Speaker 4: for some play where Mysterio made it up, like there's
Speaker 4: always gonna be a character there has to be like
Speaker 4: naysayers who are like nof he definitely is.
Speaker 1: Even Brad at the end was like he's always gone.
Speaker 1: He went to his family, like, what's the deal. The
Speaker 1: MJ shut him down, but still it's just you have
Speaker 1: characters already. So and it sucks because we talk about
Speaker 1: this on the Predictions because I really listened to it today.
Speaker 1: That's the only character in the MCU that had that
Speaker 1: set anything right, and if that is gone, it's just
Speaker 1: that was another thing unique to spier Man that they
Speaker 1: plucked away to make a Miroman Junior wish for me.
Speaker 1: He's like, eh, like I don't want that. I want like,
Speaker 1: I think that's something cool dude down the line, but
Speaker 1: already in like that to me again feels like we
Speaker 1: gotta be different. He's never had his identity revealed. It's like,
Speaker 1: I guess, but we're doing it.
Speaker 2: In the sequel, it was like different situation though, or
Speaker 2: sorry it's a different situation. But in like Spider Verse,
Speaker 2: how like they found it was Peter Parker like after
Speaker 2: he died, like that totally made sense and like it
Speaker 2: was really good how they play that out like everyone's
Speaker 2: obviously he's dead now, so everyone's just sad that morning
Speaker 2: in this one is just it's way too early. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I wasn't a big fan of it. Especially how it's
Speaker 2: just following like the MCU I don't know pattern. I
Speaker 2: guess everyone just doesn't have a secret in it, which
Speaker 2: I don't know. I really don't like have a theory
Speaker 2: on what they're gonna do or how like what I
Speaker 2: would want to see. I just I don't know. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm interested, to say the least.
Speaker 4: It's one of those things again, feels like what Travis
Speaker 4: said earlier of them trying to be different just for
Speaker 4: the sake of being different, And I wonder if that
Speaker 4: had something to do with this decision decision or how
Speaker 4: long ago they made this decision that they want to
Speaker 4: do this with with Peter Parker. Yeah, and I do know,
Speaker 4: like it really it could go either way. I could
Speaker 4: end up liking it, but like initially it's just once
Speaker 4: again just so different from the Spider Man, and I
Speaker 4: know that I feel like, who, like who can really
Speaker 4: predict what they're gonna do next with this character? Yeah,
Speaker 4: and there not like there isn't like a feel like
Speaker 4: a ton to look forward to in terms of, oh
Speaker 4: some of that classic Spider Man stuff that I love,
Speaker 4: Like we've already lost so much of that. Yeah, even
Speaker 4: like if they ever want to do Harry Osborne down
Speaker 4: the road like that that classic story is kind of
Speaker 4: out the window now because that dynamic is already I
Speaker 4: guess like you could still do some aspects of it,
Speaker 4: but the dynamic that he like finds out or or
Speaker 4: Peter's bad friend because of these are reasons like that's
Speaker 4: kind of gone as well, so.
Speaker 1: And before Taylor goes because they don't you're talking about
Speaker 1: And I think it's valid. If people like these takes,
Speaker 1: that's great. And I think some people might push back
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, well, we have seen the Harry
Speaker 1: thing done before, why would you want to see it again?
Speaker 1: For me, why I was so excited with the Marvel
Speaker 1: partnership is I want to see them do it perfectly,
Speaker 1: you know, like I feel like, like you look at
Speaker 1: amazing Spider Man and golfing there, it's like it's been
Speaker 1: a while since we had a good Yeah, like back
Speaker 1: to the Burger thing, It's like I went to a
Speaker 1: burger joint and it got burnt. I'm not gonna not
Speaker 1: go back. It's just I'm hoping when I go back
Speaker 1: this time, it's like, Oh, it's a new ownership. You
Speaker 1: guys are gonna make a great Burger and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you took away that sauce like and that thing. And
Speaker 1: that's where I think you can if you like that
Speaker 1: they're doing different stuff. I think that's great. It's just
Speaker 1: that's for me. I remember when they got that partnership,
Speaker 1: was like, oh, we can finally see this stuff done
Speaker 1: just the way I thought, like just in a perfect way,
Speaker 1: Like even stuff when we talk about like X Men,
Speaker 1: you know, we're like, oh, we hope they can do
Speaker 1: things where these aren't these characters, these aren't these themes
Speaker 1: like let's get a real nice, great adaption like these
Speaker 1: other characters. And it does feel that they're kind of
Speaker 1: scared to do those and they're gonna change up and
Speaker 1: and if you like that, great, But.
Speaker 4: I could see a storyline We talked about this on
Speaker 4: our recent cast proay think our predictions for phase four
Speaker 4: is like, what if they do a storyline where they
Speaker 4: kill off Peter Parker and then there's there's your Miles Morales,
Speaker 4: your Spidergun, whoever it is, and maybe that will be
Speaker 4: like more kind of traditional stuff where there's a hidden identity.
Speaker 4: You can do some of that stuff there and like
Speaker 4: this iterate this Peter Parker. This Spider Man is gonna
Speaker 4: be the one who's in the public eye. People know
Speaker 4: who he is. He's in the Avengers, he's leading the Avengers. True,
Speaker 4: And I don't think I'm against that necessarily. I think
Speaker 4: that could be fun, but I'm just not like sure,
Speaker 4: Like I goes looking forward to like a lot of
Speaker 4: the just like that classic Peter Spider dynamic that we
Speaker 4: just won't really get in the traditional sense, And I
Speaker 4: feel like they're gonna have to really justify it if
Speaker 4: they do want to go back to that style now.
Speaker 4: But I feel like, once again, like they just really
Speaker 4: want it to be quite distant from what you are
Speaker 4: expecting or what you know. And I mean maybe that's
Speaker 4: just like my limited knowledge, like of all the Spider
Speaker 4: Man stuff I've seen, I've never seen that maybe has
Speaker 4: been done in a few comic runs.
Speaker 1: They yeah, they have done, I don't think. And that's
Speaker 1: where it's coming out in personal sate. I don't think
Speaker 1: those have been his strongest stories, you know, like Civil
Speaker 1: War was good because he did that, and then all
Speaker 1: the villains are like, well, we know who he is,
Speaker 1: let's go get it antime. But now I guess, and
Speaker 1: that's where I have a theory about wait for Taylor talking.
Speaker 1: We don't have many like that many villains, and Walter
Speaker 1: didn't strike me as the guy. I know he said
Speaker 1: he'd kill his family, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: he knew who's And it's weird because it's fine, but
Speaker 1: they can't do anything of that storyline now either that
Speaker 1: Vulture knew Spiderman was, everyone in Printon said, oh, you
Speaker 1: know who he is? And he's like, oh, you think
Speaker 1: if I knew who he was, he'd be dead. So
Speaker 1: it's like that they are clearly playing something fun. Oh
Speaker 1: Valture knows his identity, how could that play into it? Nothing?
Speaker 1: Now it's just okay, And that's where it's strange.
Speaker 4: I really do question like some of these decisions at
Speaker 4: the end of Homecoming, even like the antime decision, Like
Speaker 4: maybe they didn't know if they're gonna get the rights
Speaker 4: back and they just wanted to do something flashy and
Speaker 4: end the character off and I don't I don't know
Speaker 4: where are the rights at now?
Speaker 1: Do we know? No, we won't know.
Speaker 4: I bet T'll so who knows what's happening behind the scenes.
Speaker 4: But maybe that's the reason they want to do this.
Speaker 4: They don't know how long they're gonna have Spider Man
Speaker 4: with so they're trying to just do something different and
Speaker 4: something that's and maybe they're trying to set it up
Speaker 4: so that you could kill them off and like people
Speaker 4: would be okay with it because it's like, it's not
Speaker 4: the Spider Man that I know in love, it's a
Speaker 4: it's a different version. So if they switch it.
Speaker 1: Up, I think it also sets up if he's a criminal,
Speaker 1: it has and let's say he's the end this movie.
Speaker 1: He's a criminal, and so he decides they're going to
Speaker 1: take Spiermen back and not having the MCU easily the
Speaker 1: Avenger would be like, well, spends a criminal. That's why
Speaker 1: he's not on the Avengers, you know, like and they
Speaker 1: won't say that, but just he has too much cheat
Speaker 1: on the public doesn't trust him, so you neasily write
Speaker 1: off Tim. What do you think about all this? So
Speaker 1: the question was is identity right? How do you feel
Speaker 1: about that? Is idam'ty? You're real that twist?
Speaker 4: How do you always forget our question?
Speaker 1: You guys have talking for a long time about once
Speaker 1: that question.
Speaker 3: It's like, clearly, you know I've been trying to follow,
Speaker 3: and it's like it's been drifting it out. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: so it's all been about his identity, has it? Yes,
Speaker 3: I I'm not surprised. I feel like, you know, everyone
Speaker 3: knew his identity. I was groomed into this. You know,
Speaker 3: I was talking about this before. When he came back
Speaker 3: and all five thousand Avengers freaking knew his identity, I
Speaker 3: was like, this is no surprise. So, you know, as
Speaker 3: I said, there's probably guys up on the highway off
Speaker 3: of the Fatost Battle probably watch him and they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's Peter park.
Speaker 1: There's no highway once again it was there's no one around.
Speaker 3: So I feel like it definitely, Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, it'll be interesting to see how they tackle it.
Speaker 3: And I think that they're gonna pull some kind of
Speaker 3: crazy stunt in order to Uh. I think Doctor Strange
Speaker 3: might get in on this, and I think they might
Speaker 3: pull some crazy kind of stunt and uh oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 1: Doctor Stranger just gives zero fox about what's going on
Speaker 1: with Peter Parker. Wow, he's dealing with it. They say
Speaker 1: that Avengers like, tell what part? What part? Do they
Speaker 1: say that when when Wong is explaining, like the Avengers
Speaker 1: deal with earthly threats, we deal with all the others.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna worry about Peter Parker's identity and like
Speaker 1: he's a criminal. I feel like that's the last thing
Speaker 1: on st if you feel bad.
Speaker 2: He's like, I feel bad that Tony died. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: help him out.
Speaker 4: Even Peter in this movie's like, why can't doctor strangeld me?
Speaker 4: Like he's busy doing more important stuff?
Speaker 1: Was that mister Strange? It's doctor Strange, Strange, doctor Strange.
Speaker 3: H Well, that being said, anyways, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: feel like it's it's not. I'm okay with the change
Speaker 3: and kind of like going down a different path that
Speaker 3: doesn't really bother me. Again, like everyone's been learning his
Speaker 3: identity throughout all of these movies, since you know, his
Speaker 3: debut in Civil War. I feel like, so it's not
Speaker 3: it's not really the big surprise to me, Like even
Speaker 3: him trying to cover his identity, Tony Stark figured it out,
Speaker 3: you know, and then it progressed further in Homecoming and
Speaker 3: progressed further into.
Speaker 4: But it kind of takes away some impact of like
Speaker 4: MJ finding out right because like, well, she's gonna doesn't
Speaker 4: really matter if she found out there, Yeah, it did
Speaker 4: for I guess days in a few days, and it
Speaker 4: I mean it adds that aspect of like she figured
Speaker 4: it out, which is good like for her character, shows
Speaker 4: that she's smart and whatnot. But I guess, like now
Speaker 4: that doesn't really matter that she found out.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know everyone knows.
Speaker 4: So I mean not everyone, because more characters new than regular,
Speaker 4: but not everyone.
Speaker 1: And he can't go on the public now. Let's say,
Speaker 1: even if he's a good guy Spider Man, he clears
Speaker 1: his name, he can't go out to the public now
Speaker 1: because he didn't want that lifestyle like Tony and the
Speaker 1: rest of him, right, like this movie talks about so
Speaker 1: many times. So he just wants to be a kid
Speaker 1: and lives his life and be at the girl. He
Speaker 1: won't be able to do that now, even as good
Speaker 1: Spider Man, people will be braiding him all the time.
Speaker 1: He'll be on mission, so like his life is completely changed. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess so.
Speaker 3: But then it also depends, like you guys point out,
Speaker 3: we know we don't see his face, his face as
Speaker 3: Peter Parker, like in.
Speaker 1: The Spider Man suits.
Speaker 3: So I feel like, you know, the one thing he's
Speaker 3: gonna have to do is to continue trying to be
Speaker 3: normal on purpose, to kind of blend in, because I
Speaker 3: think he's going to try to protect his identity. And
Speaker 3: you know, I mean the fact that Peter Parker's face
Speaker 3: is there. You know, they could swing at any which way.
Speaker 3: Talas Nick or Talas Fury could just kind of throw
Speaker 3: in some kind of like change to the story, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: What if they put him in the suit, like dressed
Speaker 2: up with like a different face, and then Peter's there,
Speaker 2: and then they just have him like remove his mask.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, clearly true, They've they've shid very weak,
Speaker 2: very weak.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Yeah, that's because then is that how
Speaker 1: we're gonna go with Sperman three? Gonna be Oh, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, he is secret identity and
Speaker 1: it's the waste of a movie.
Speaker 2: Definitely, Yeah, I know, I'm I really yeah, Because on
Speaker 2: one hand, if they revert it all and it goes back,
Speaker 2: it's kind of lazy and like why would they even
Speaker 2: reveal it in the first day? Yeah, exactly. But on
Speaker 2: the other hand, if his life is just never the same,
Speaker 2: I feel like I won't ever get the Peter Parker
Speaker 2: that or the Peter Parker Spider Man. Like I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna call him two different individuals because for me, I
Speaker 2: feel like Tom Holland is just such a perfect Peter
Speaker 2: Parker as well as Spider Man, Whereas like if you
Speaker 2: compared to like Toby Maguire, I feel like he was
Speaker 2: really good Peter Parker, but Spider Man I'm not the
Speaker 2: biggest fan of. Yeah, no, his quips weren't the best,
Speaker 2: but like, that's a line. But Tom Holland is just
Speaker 2: so perfect since everyone knows his identity, if he does
Speaker 2: become the new Tony Stark, if he does become the
Speaker 2: new leader of the Event, or like whatever it is.
Speaker 2: It's just I am worried that I won't ever get
Speaker 2: what I've grown to love with this character. But I
Speaker 2: could totally be.
Speaker 4: I don't know, multiverse he can go to a universe
Speaker 4: that doesn't I'm gonna say, Smiles can come to this one.
Speaker 1: We're gonna say Spider Verse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying now we will see a multiverse, you know,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. I think we'll see it in MC
Speaker 3: you at some point.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's pretty Sirett.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty sick.
Speaker 3: But I I at this point, I think, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't feel any disappointment in the MCU. You know,
Speaker 3: they've they've done such a great job with their movies
Speaker 3: and oh really Justin Hammer, great character, Justin Hammer.
Speaker 1: They denegrate job with their movies.
Speaker 3: I don't say I'm not saying every movie is perfect,
Speaker 3: because like with the qualities that they.
Speaker 1: Choose to put in these movies and choose, you know,
Speaker 1: but I.
Speaker 4: Think there's gonna be a ship movie, because then it'll
Speaker 4: all dark, go back to.
Speaker 1: The dark world. I thought about the multiverse if they
Speaker 1: went him Ali Verus grabbed Toby and then threw him
Speaker 1: in the spearman Stuon and framed him, and they just
Speaker 1: log poor Toby up in this universe.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 3: I think that somehow they're going to you know, they
Speaker 3: did this for a reason. There's a bug on the
Speaker 3: Tim Horton's box. Uh, they did this for a reason.
Speaker 3: And I have no doubt that everything will be Everything
Speaker 3: will be fine. I one hundred percent think that they're
Speaker 3: gonna weave this into a larger story that will, you know,
Speaker 3: justify the direction they're heading, because already, you know, Foggy,
Speaker 3: he's got that ten year plan.
Speaker 1: I think he's looking at it. He's got the plants
Speaker 1: where I always push it again. That's why I feel
Speaker 1: like these feel so different, because this one's not just Foggy.
Speaker 1: He has to work with somebody as I was just
Speaker 1: he has to work with all Sony. They do their
Speaker 1: golf games, right, Yeah, that's where I don't think it's
Speaker 1: as bad. But even referring to like pro mutter and like,
Speaker 1: oh you can't have a female villain, there could be
Speaker 1: stuff like that, even stuff right now when they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we want venom in there and five he's like, well,
Speaker 1: it's up to Sony if they want to do that.
Speaker 1: I just feel like he'll be sitting there like fuck me,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to be doing this. That thing
Speaker 1: where and you say they're gonna fall up, they didn't
Speaker 1: fall up on anime at all. So that's why I
Speaker 1: don't have faith that they're gonna follow.
Speaker 3: But they're going for the larger story though, that's what
Speaker 3: they're they're aiming for, you know. I mean, if those
Speaker 3: posters aren't eything to go off of for Sony, I
Speaker 3: mean it's not looking too good. But I feel like
Speaker 3: I feel like Figy and Sony, you know, they're they're
Speaker 3: going and they're playing. Maybe they're not playing golf right now,
Speaker 3: maybe they're playing bachi, doing some skee ball.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna dish it out, They're gonna hash
Speaker 3: it out, and they're gonna collectively come on to something
Speaker 3: really really good. I think the next Spider Man is
Speaker 3: gonna be a great, you know, end to that trilogy.
Speaker 3: If we are getting the nine films, I think it'll
Speaker 3: be a great end to his kind of little trilogy
Speaker 3: in high school and what they were going for. I
Speaker 3: also do want to shout out is very sad to
Speaker 3: have our first MC movie with no Stanley.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was so Yeah, it was a big bummer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my theory for Spider Man three is, so we
Speaker 1: got Jonah around Dylani Pine because it was like season
Speaker 1: one of Sperman the Animate series. But this is from
Speaker 1: the comics as well. Scorpion's origin story is Jonah decides
Speaker 1: he's gonna take down Spider Man himself, so he funds
Speaker 1: a project with little Matt Gargan to become the Scorpion.
Speaker 1: And it is kind of funny that we have Matt
Speaker 1: Gargan set up in the first one True and Jonah
Speaker 1: is back, and I think if they want to do
Speaker 1: there we are our own Jonah. That'd be the way
Speaker 1: of making him a bit more villainous. And I also
Speaker 1: think if he goes, oh, I need someone to help
Speaker 1: fund this, I think that's where we could get Norman
Speaker 1: Osborne in there. So that is my hard prediction that
Speaker 1: I don't think Scorpion would be the main villain because
Speaker 1: I just I don't think with that. I think that
Speaker 1: he's a good actor. He's from Better Call Saul. He's
Speaker 1: a talented guy, but I just don't think he's big
Speaker 1: enough star, I think. And that's why you almost surprised
Speaker 1: you could have got sinisor six here, because it could
Speaker 1: have been and Oh, the New York government or whatever
Speaker 1: they want to put together a team to take down
Speaker 1: Spider Man, we're gonna use these people. But I think
Speaker 1: there's a good chance that now that there's Jonah back
Speaker 1: and we have Scorpion set up, Scorpion will be in
Speaker 1: the movie, and I think he could be Norman Osborn
Speaker 1: will be helping him, like, oh yeah, I'm just doing
Speaker 1: this for the public. But I think, uh, there's a chance.
Speaker 1: But we said scorpions should be in the citations six.
Speaker 1: But you have to set him up somehow. And his
Speaker 1: origin story is literally Jonah pays for an operation to
Speaker 1: make him Scorpion, and now the public will want Spider
Speaker 1: Man's head. I know it seems that that's that's my bold.
Speaker 1: This is I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: You know, he's got a plan and he's going for
Speaker 3: and he's he's everything.
Speaker 1: Just trusting you know, I'm see you they know what
Speaker 1: they're doing. I trust in Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I trust Figgy.
Speaker 4: But you trust him doesn't mean if I love everything
Speaker 4: he does, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean you can trust an ammer Well.
Speaker 1: I like the movie, but I just didn't like the character.
Speaker 3: That's Figgy's favorite character, Wasn't that pre Figy didn't come
Speaker 3: in after Iron Men.
Speaker 1: So he started iron Don't vision is history? He started
Speaker 1: Iron Man one. Get off your horse. Oh you didn't
Speaker 1: have anything to do with Iron Man too. I'm back
Speaker 1: with the Times Stone here. No, I think, uh like that.
Speaker 1: That's that's a very good prediction. And I also, this
Speaker 1: one's not my claim, but I'll add on too, because
Speaker 1: I've been seeing people thrown around, and you know Marvel
Speaker 1: Netflix is dead, so Spearman might need a pure Parker
Speaker 1: might need a lawyer, might.
Speaker 4: Lawyer specifically cannot see.
Speaker 1: And there's a great animated series episode with that as well.
Speaker 1: So that one's not mine. The ones before those aremind you,
Speaker 1: but those around. I just saw someone tweet it was
Speaker 1: going viral of like Speriman might need a lawyer. It
Speaker 1: was just him and Daredel will go like, that'd be
Speaker 1: a pretty sick way to introduce a new Matt Murdoch
Speaker 1: in the MCU, because oh, that'd be great. Ben Affleck
Speaker 1: comes in, I'll take a pass on, But yeah, that
Speaker 1: I think if they're gonna bring in Daredell, that'd be
Speaker 1: the perfect way. And maybe Daredevil's a guy that believes
Speaker 1: in them. And that's again I guess I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of hoping the next Peraman is also more street level. Again,
Speaker 1: I want to be. That's why I prefer Homecoming, just
Speaker 1: because I like New York. I like the high school setting.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I hope you're right, Taylor. I need
Speaker 1: I want to say I need a good trailer, but
Speaker 1: these had good trailers.
Speaker 2: So I will not did not have good trailers.
Speaker 1: No, well, I meant like they I'll be hype see
Speaker 1: Mysterio and all this. But I agree with you, but
Speaker 1: I need some selling on Spider three. Still. I don't
Speaker 1: hate this movie, just this is not my most anticipating
Speaker 1: If we ranked anticipate, which we actually have done, we
Speaker 1: should do that after Comic Con when they announce their slate.
Speaker 1: Like what we're most anticipating for this is probably like
Speaker 1: pretty at the Bomb, which sucks with Spider Man is
Speaker 1: easily a top five character. Maybe it's like above saying
Speaker 1: she and it's definitely above saying she in eternals. But
Speaker 1: after that, here's my here's my Spider Man three pitch.
Speaker 1: Here's your pitch. Okay, if you guys got pitched, go aheads.
Speaker 4: It related to the other Spider Man three that we've
Speaker 4: seen before.
Speaker 3: No, this is it could be done Tom holland Spider Man.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the name is yet, if you
Speaker 3: guys think of a name. Spider Man going Home, Emily
Speaker 3: had a good one. Spearman can't go Home. I don't
Speaker 3: like it because I want them to drop the fuck
Speaker 3: home thing. I'm over this, but if they're.
Speaker 2: Not Spider Man and the homies.
Speaker 1: Can't go home.
Speaker 4: That could be Spider Man home drop, any sort of
Speaker 4: fun with it, just home.
Speaker 3: So now, yeah, it's it's kicking off. You know, it's dark.
Speaker 3: It's a dark dark.
Speaker 4: This is Spider Man three again.
Speaker 1: But in this movie, Tom Hardy comes up. Guys.
Speaker 3: You hear narrations, Peter talking is like everything changed, you
Speaker 3: know when when Mysterio attacked and yeah, so then they
Speaker 3: it's uh, it's the scene sets, it's New York.
Speaker 1: He's swinging through.
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden you see explosions behind him
Speaker 3: and you know something's going on. And underneath them street level,
Speaker 3: you see fucking ghost rider bike coming along them. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: hear me out. Hear me out, Here me out, hear
Speaker 3: me out. You see ghost rider bike coming along and
Speaker 3: you think, okay, it's ghost rider taking taking him down,
Speaker 3: but it's it's it's Robbie raised. Robbie have a bike.
Speaker 3: He does.
Speaker 1: He didn't get snap. Hear me out, This is the pitch.
Speaker 1: He didn't get snapped.
Speaker 3: So we spent the time going from upgrading from his
Speaker 3: car to the bike over the five year period, and
Speaker 3: everyone thinks that he's taking down he's taking down Peter.
Speaker 1: But it's not.
Speaker 3: And this leads into the Spider Man game where Peter
Speaker 3: gets a ghost Rider suit.
Speaker 1: Not gonna happen. Who's the villain of your movie? He
Speaker 1: didn't give that the villain score? Okay, you like that.
Speaker 2: I really like your prediction, though, I just feel like
Speaker 2: who's prediction just for the listeners? Oh yeah, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you for reminding me. Travis Snell over there. No,
Speaker 2: it's just especially since they have all the pieces there, right,
Speaker 2: they got they got JJ in there. J. I probably
Speaker 2: shouldn't say they got j J Abrams in there.
Speaker 1: Now he should play ghostwriter.
Speaker 2: Yes, no I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm out.
Speaker 2: But no, you got you got Jamison, you got Matt Guart,
Speaker 2: And it just I don't know, especially last time I
Speaker 2: saw that was in I think like the PS one game.
Speaker 2: So it just be I don't know. I really like
Speaker 2: those characters, so it'll be a cool dynamic, especially since
Speaker 2: oh you got me excited to that Daredevil thought would
Speaker 2: be good.
Speaker 1: So we want the fish bowl, I want the tail now,
Speaker 1: I want I want the scarpon tel.
Speaker 4: You know, Dylan, you got any you have a ghostwriter
Speaker 4: pitch definitely not related to ghostwriter as a guy who's
Speaker 4: not a big fan of Ghostwriter.
Speaker 1: The character.
Speaker 3: You can promise me I'm a fan that you're a
Speaker 3: fan of ghost Writer. Yeah, I think tune into our
Speaker 3: July nineteenth stream.
Speaker 4: Because writers in that game.
Speaker 1: I hope we I don't want to unlock them before
Speaker 1: Uno the whle t is there on stream. That's the
Speaker 1: dream I want that.
Speaker 4: That's I think it's a few levels in. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't really think I have a
Speaker 4: prediction so much. I would not be totally shocked. Actually
Speaker 4: if they did, uh some sort of multiverse where we
Speaker 4: Douce get like Miles or Spider Quinn instead of Peter
Speaker 4: as like the main the main character, and then Peter
Speaker 4: either dies or is just kind of chilling with the
Speaker 4: Avengers for his.
Speaker 1: Or in jail.
Speaker 4: Maybe in jail or he goes to some other dimension.
Speaker 4: But I was just thinking about, like, yeah, the fun
Speaker 4: dynamics of like Norman Osborne or like a doctor Octopus, Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know, are we gonna get like those dynamics.
Speaker 4: It's like hard to envision them in the same way.
Speaker 4: I don't think the dog have disappointing for.
Speaker 1: Me, No, So yeah, I don't think normany that I
Speaker 1: think will get a whole type of different Norman.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The more I think about like what they did here,
Speaker 4: actually the more I dislike it. So that kind of sucks.
Speaker 4: But I'm not like, I'm not I haven't lost faith
Speaker 4: by any means, because I still enjoyed this movie a lot.
Speaker 4: So I guess they just set up like for a
Speaker 4: few different things, right, Like the scrolls thing is like
Speaker 4: one whole can of worms, and they also cracked this
Speaker 4: one open, So I don't know. There's a lot that
Speaker 4: Gonda happen in the next movie.
Speaker 1: And there's a chance that he's not even an MCU
Speaker 1: in two years. We don't even know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right, Like he could just disappear off the
Speaker 4: face of the earth.
Speaker 1: So then we'll get that speierman Venom Cross. I hope
Speaker 1: that's also not it. They bring Venom to like help
Speaker 1: him out with the crime. I don't need Tom Harry
Speaker 1: looking for Tater Tots with him and everything like that.
Speaker 1: Tater thoughts he eats remember that in the he just
Speaker 1: eats them frozen.
Speaker 4: As he pops out of the aquarium or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else to say on a future Spider Man
Speaker 1: or we're getting to our last thoughts ratings. I will
Speaker 1: give this a seven. I think I would listen back
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago I get a speramn Homecoming and eight.
Speaker 1: I would drop that down to a seven as well,
Speaker 1: because I remember when I watch it was just like, man,
Speaker 1: this is so much better than Amazing Spider Man two.
Speaker 1: I'm happy, but more is the direction as I rewatch it.
Speaker 1: And again I still like these movies. These are still
Speaker 1: good quality comic movies. I had entertaining time. I will
Speaker 1: be excited when SPIERMN three rolls around Spider Man whatever.
Speaker 1: Like Dale said, Spider Man Home Comes homecoms that there
Speaker 1: home Comes that sets at the porn world for so
Speaker 1: many good titles. But yeah, it's just like I said,
Speaker 1: it's a mid lower tier. It's just strange to me
Speaker 1: that in these past two years, I never thought I
Speaker 1: would like a Captain Marvel and Antman the Watch movie
Speaker 1: more than these Spider Man movies. And that's the case.
Speaker 1: So and I guess I'm not that mad because they
Speaker 1: did Misterio perfect and we got Spider Verse. I know
Speaker 1: that's also Sony. So it's a strange thing. They had
Speaker 1: a weird They're like a weird mistress. You know, they
Speaker 1: give me Venom, but then they give me Spierus, then
Speaker 1: they give me this, so who knows. But so that
Speaker 1: guy softens the blow because we have that. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: rewatch that a bunch, and they're making a sequel to that. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, I've just kind of assumed that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I like these movies and we're like things in them,
Speaker 1: but they're maybe just not for me and what I like.
Speaker 1: If you like that, that's great, that's awesome. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's many things. It's kind of like the Batman and BBS. Right,
Speaker 1: If you like that take, that's great for me. It's
Speaker 1: just not my favorite. So luckily that's getting rebooted this.
Speaker 1: I think that's the other problem. If this wasn't the
Speaker 1: main connuity, I'd be fine. It's like when we talk
Speaker 1: about Joker, that's just gonna be a one movie off
Speaker 1: and if it sucks, it never happened. Where this is.
Speaker 1: This is spier Man in the MCU, and now with
Speaker 1: two films kind of like this, it's just I feel
Speaker 1: like that's the way we're gonna be going. So yeah,
Speaker 1: a seven out of ten enjoyable. I liked it. I
Speaker 1: loved some stuff. The mysterio stuff was phenomenal, especially those
Speaker 1: trippy scenes we talked about. But yeah, I need some
Speaker 1: selling on that next one. I need some I need
Speaker 1: some good tidbits to get me going mm hm.
Speaker 4: As for myself, this one, yeah it falls I you know,
Speaker 4: after one watch, it's hard to say, and I'll definitely
Speaker 4: watch this movie a few more times. But like as
Speaker 4: of right now, it falls pretty much right in line
Speaker 4: with Homecoming, which is kind of not what I was
Speaker 4: hoping for because Homecoming is a good movie, don't get
Speaker 4: me wrong, but it's I feel like it's just fine,
Speaker 4: Like it's it doesn't blow me away, and it's a
Speaker 4: movie that's not terribly rewatchable, which sucks for a character
Speaker 4: I like so much. So I guess I was just
Speaker 4: hoping for this one to be like way above that,
Speaker 4: especially like the quality of Marvel has just been on
Speaker 4: so on point lately. So yeah, I was kind of
Speaker 4: hoping for something a little bit more. But I think
Speaker 4: going into this, what I really really wanted above all
Speaker 4: else was a good mysterio and I got that, So
Speaker 4: I'm very satisfied at the end of the day. Like
Speaker 4: I had a couple of little problems with the character.
Speaker 4: But for the most part, I was just it was
Speaker 4: what I wanted from this character on the big screen,
Speaker 4: So I'm pretty happy with that. But I think along
Speaker 4: the way there was just a bunch of things I
Speaker 4: didn't really consider, and unfortunately those things weren't done so well,
Speaker 4: just with like pretty much all this side characters, or
Speaker 4: not all of them, but a few of the side
Speaker 4: ones out at least. But there's also, as we just
Speaker 4: talked about, like I don't know a lot of looking
Speaker 4: forward with this movie as well, towards the end, with
Speaker 4: the end credit scene, even just the last scene, so
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm very curious to see what they're
Speaker 4: doing with Spider Man at this point. I'm not definitely
Speaker 4: not the point where I'm worried by any means, because
Speaker 4: I still really enjoyed this movie, and I trust him
Speaker 4: in Marvel to make a high quality movie because they
Speaker 4: have been doing that pretty consistently lately. But yeah, overall,
Speaker 4: like for a character I love so much, little little
Speaker 4: let down, I guess, yeah, absolutely fair. Yeah, this movie
Speaker 4: was interesting because Lake Dylan I really needed a good mysterio.
Speaker 2: If they would have butchered that character for the first
Speaker 2: time I've seen him on like a live action screen,
Speaker 2: it would have just been so disheartening, yeah, exactly, but
Speaker 2: fortunately was not the case. He totally delivered the look
Speaker 2: of him just the whole play on just like tricking people,
Speaker 2: Like I just loved everything that they did with that character,
Speaker 2: and just I just felt so good and exactly like
Speaker 2: Travis said, like this might not be the most top
Speaker 2: quality like movie out there, but I'm totally rewatching this
Speaker 2: mainly for like Mysterio and like like the trippy scene,
Speaker 2: like those were just so good and I just feel
Speaker 2: like it carried the movie, whereas like some of those
Speaker 2: weaker those weaker spots in the film kind of brought
Speaker 2: it down, Like those really good ones kind of lifted
Speaker 2: up for me. So and then honestly, just seeing like JK.
Speaker 2: Simmons in this movie that ye, honestly like jotted it
Speaker 2: up a whole point for me, Like that was just
Speaker 2: so absolutely phenomenal. Getting to see him in there, and
Speaker 2: the stuff they did with MJ and Peter, I just
Speaker 2: love their dynamic and really growing to like that that
Speaker 2: interpretation of MJ. And then we've already mentioned it, Tom
Speaker 2: Allin's Perfect Spider man, Like I'm not kind of sugarcoat anymore.
Speaker 2: It's just like, yeah, I just absolutely love it. So
Speaker 2: I was originally gonna give this one an actual nine,
Speaker 2: an actual and actual nine honestly, like JK. Simmons in
Speaker 2: there like brings it up so much more and the
Speaker 2: mysterio is super high. There is some nitpick stuff, but honestly,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna drop it right back down to eight a
Speaker 2: full point because because total mind there, that whole point,
Speaker 2: that whole point that I'm losing is because of the
Speaker 2: MG reveal in the trailer like that. Actually that actually
Speaker 2: killed like a lot of hype for this movie for me,
Speaker 2: and like I'm I'm still upset about it, like honestly,
Speaker 2: like it's okay, I'm getting triggered.
Speaker 1: But yeah, three reveal something else as well.
Speaker 4: Oh god, I hope you'll forget all about that.
Speaker 2: I just forget. I just did not watch the trailer.
Speaker 1: They didn't put Joanah in the trailers, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: Sony Man, Like, oh, you guys put us some good stuff,
Speaker 1: but not the best marketing. No, Taylor, take us home
Speaker 1: with you. I feel like I know what your score
Speaker 1: is gonna be, but really, what is it? I feel
Speaker 1: like you're dropping a tent on this one. You've defended
Speaker 1: it pretty hard for points.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's clinching his jaw. He's trying to.
Speaker 1: And you can go back on the replay. He was
Speaker 1: like yeah, and then when he said an eight, he
Speaker 1: just turned away. No. Yeah, I love this movie.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get my tickets again, probably today to see
Speaker 3: it again, like I.
Speaker 4: You know, see it today or gonna get your.
Speaker 3: I'll get my tickets to see right now. I'll do
Speaker 3: double back to back. No, it was just it was
Speaker 3: such an overall just an awesome movie. I really really enjoyed,
Speaker 3: you know, Peter, I really enjoyed Mysterials so much, you know.
Speaker 1: JK.
Speaker 3: Simmons at the end was great. Like I loved everything
Speaker 3: they were doing. I was just so on board with,
Speaker 3: you know, the identity crisis thing. You know, it didn't
Speaker 3: really bother me that much because I feel at this point,
Speaker 3: like I said before, I feel like, oh, everyone just
Speaker 3: knows who he is and I'm just kind of rolling
Speaker 3: the rolling with it, you know. I like that he
Speaker 3: I like that Spider Man's identity is a secret.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3: That's why I really like, you know, the Tobey Maguire
Speaker 3: movies and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But in the end, I like that MJ knows. I
Speaker 1: think it'll be kind of cool.
Speaker 3: I like the kind of like team up, like you know,
Speaker 3: backup kind of vibe I was getting from her from
Speaker 3: the movie though.
Speaker 1: It was fantastic.
Speaker 3: But this movie did so much good stuff and I
Speaker 3: feel like it's heading down into a direction that I'm
Speaker 3: super excited for. This easily passes Homecoming from me. And
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to stay tuned to see where it
Speaker 3: lands on my Marvel ranking list because it's gonna be
Speaker 3: pretty fucking wild.
Speaker 2: Oh I'm so so excited.
Speaker 4: Did you give it a number so you're not gonna
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