WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.360 --> 00:00:03.720 It's Night's Eyes with Dan Ray. I'm telling you razy 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:06.000 Boston's News Radio. 3 00:00:07.080 --> 00:00:10.400 Thank you very much, Cherry, welcome everybody. Welcome on into 4 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:12.960 a Tuesday evening edition of Night Sime from eight and 5 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:17.039 to midnight right here on wb Z, Boston's News Radio. Sherry, 6 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:20.640 great job is always. Thanks again. We will move right 7 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:24.280 into our first hour. Remind you that back in the 8 00:00:24.320 --> 00:00:28.160 control room at the Broadcast Center, the broadcast headquarters, of course, 9 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:31.480 is Rob Brooks, who is with us virtually every night 10 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:33.640 of the year as well. Like myself. We'd take a 11 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:35.840 couple of nights off here and there, but not many. 12 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:38.320 A little bit later on tonight, we're going to spend 13 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:42.439 an hour talking about the beginning of the Karen Reid retrial. 14 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:46.840 Got off to a quick start today with the openings 15 00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:50.439 by both the prosecution and the defense. Some witnesses were called. 16 00:00:51.039 --> 00:00:54.359 We'll talk with Phil Tracy at eight forty five about 17 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:59.200 his take of this retrial for Karen Reid. And then 18 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:01.880 later we're on tonight at ten o'clock we're going to 19 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:05.560 talk with Professor Gregg Staller. He's a professor at Boston 20 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:08.079 University's Questum School of Business. It was a wild day 21 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:10.840 on Wall Street yesterday and an equally wild day today. 22 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.840 And there's been some developments on the economy and on 23 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.519 the tariffs. And Greg is a great guest and we 24 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:23.280 will have him back tonight at ten o'clock. But first off, 25 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:27.079 first order of business is the Nightside News Update, in 26 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:32.959 which we highlight for interesting events indoor stories for you. 27 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:35.439 Are going to start off. For those of you who 28 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:39.760 live in the Greater Boston area, some of you have 29 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.840 probably never heard of what we're about to talk about. 30 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:47.079 It's called the American Heritage Museum. And with us is 31 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:52.719 Bob Collings. Bob is the head of the American Heritage Museum. 32 00:01:52.760 --> 00:01:56.000 And Bob I know it's in Hudson, Massachusetts, but I 33 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:58.400 fear that a lot of my listeners might not be 34 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:00.280 aware of it. So tell us a little bit about 35 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:03.599 the history of the American Heritage Museum, which will be 36 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:07.640 reopening for the summer and fall. Its closes up during 37 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:09.080 the winters. I understand it correct. 38 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:14.039 No, Actually, American Heritage Museum is open twelve months of 39 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:14.520 the year. 40 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:19.560 WHOA, Okay, well there's something I didn't know, So okay, 41 00:02:20.759 --> 00:02:21.680 going on, all. 42 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:25.400 Right, Yeah, we're open twelve months of the year. Five 43 00:02:25.520 --> 00:02:28.400 days a week. We're just closed on Mondays and Tuesdays. 44 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.400 A side of this week is at school vacation in 45 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:34.439 a lot of vacation weeks, so we hope everyone will 46 00:02:34.439 --> 00:02:37.159 have a chance to come out. The museum itself is 47 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:42.479 relatively new. We opened in May of two thoy nineteen, 48 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:46.719 but the Colleens Foundation, the parents of the museum, goes 49 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:51.199 back to nineteen seventy nine of preserving living history events 50 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:57.360 and or recently, this museum is highlighting the Jacques Littlefield 51 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:01.879 collection in Jacques was the world's large tank collector and 52 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:05.599 contributed all of the vehicles to the American Heritage Museum 53 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.599 just a little over ten years ago. 54 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:10.599 So how big a property are we talking about? I 55 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:14.000 must admit I've never ventured out there, although I'm familiar 56 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:17.599 where Hudson is right, a little bit outside of Boston, 57 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:21.800 kind of a little northeast of Worcester and whatever, maybe 58 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.599 the little northwest of Boston. You're close to fort ninety five. 59 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:28.439 Right, Yeah, we are in the town of Stowe and 60 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.960 the entrances in the town of Hudson. So actually the 61 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:34.400 property spans two towns and it's one hundred and thirteen 62 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:38.960 acres that allows us not only to have the sixty 63 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:43.879 seven thousand square foot museum which highlights artifacts from World 64 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:47.039 War Two to the present day. So we have a 65 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:50.439 World War One trench experience where people go inside of 66 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:53.479 and they can see the first American tank, the m 67 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:57.639 nineteen seventeen, and going through the museum, you go through 68 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:00.639 in a chronological order. You see the call an effect 69 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:05.560 of these different events and everything is very very immersive 70 00:04:05.599 --> 00:04:09.280 as you go through, so it's not just seeing a 71 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:12.000 tank or an airplane with a sign in front of it. 72 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:15.280 You get to really step back in time, so they said, 73 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:18.000 with World War One trench and a lot of audio 74 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:25.199 visual presentations that showcases what these vehicles meant technologically, where 75 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:28.839 they fit in geopolitically, but most of all, what's the 76 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.160 human side of it. What was it like for the 77 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:35.639 people who served in them and their personal stories all 78 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:38.720 the way up through the present day. But not only 79 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:40.439 do you see them in the museum, but we have 80 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:43.800 different events through the course of the year, and that's 81 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:46.879 where the summer months we do start to look outside 82 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:51.120 as well as inside. We have tank demo weekends, aviation weekends, 83 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:57.360 and World War two reenactments to utilize the full property. 84 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:02.040 Wow, this is interesting now, I know that. Do you 85 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:04.199 do school tours and stuff like that as well, or 86 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:08.839 it is your clientele primarily moms and dads and kids 87 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:12.959 or teenagers or adults. Who's your clientele? 88 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:17.480 The clientele is everybody. Yes, it is a lot of 89 00:05:17.519 --> 00:05:20.040 families that are coming through the museum, and that is 90 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:23.959 so important this time of the year. It's a lot 91 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:26.759 of school groups and you know we have school vacation 92 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:29.759 right now, so families are coming through. But also we 93 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:32.480 have our New Hampshire schools that are coming through the 94 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:36.519 museum as well. So it draws from a very broad 95 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:41.399 range of schools that come in to learn this history 96 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:44.480 and to see it and touch it firsthand. A lot 97 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:48.439 of it really fits into the Massachusetts state curriculum for education. 98 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:55.720 We do have some amazing artifacts, like an original German 99 00:05:55.839 --> 00:06:00.360 railcar from the Holocaust with a very very poignant video 100 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:03.240 presentation inside of it of what that was like. 101 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:05.240 All the way through. 102 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:09.040 We have two cells from the Hanoi Hilton, the prisoner 103 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:12.959 of war camp during the Vietnam War, and everyone's going 104 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.800 to recognize the name John McCain. He was one of 105 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:18.360 those men who was in prison there when he was 106 00:06:18.399 --> 00:06:21.600 shot down during the Vietnam War. And there's only one 107 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:24.040 other place in the world where you can right now 108 00:06:24.079 --> 00:06:27.639 see an original cell from the Hanoi Hilton, and that's 109 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.360 in Hanoi. So this is amazing. 110 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:33.519 These are non replica cells. These are actual cells that 111 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:38.959 American POWs were held in isolation, in many cases for 112 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:39.959 several years. 113 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:47.279 Absolutely, these two cells are original cells from Wallow the prison, 114 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:52.199 which we colloquially know is the Hanoi Hilton, that were 115 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:56.199 disassembled back in the nineties and then brought to America 116 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:59.040 and then it's more recently reassembled here. 117 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:04.199 I'm sure it's amazing the story of how this foundation, 118 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:10.160 how all of these Uh I shouldn't say souvenirs, memorabile you, 119 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:14.160 whatever you want to call whatever word would be appropriate. Uh, 120 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:17.319 we're actually acquired. What a what a collection you have? 121 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:20.879 So how can folks who are interested what's give us 122 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:24.240 the website so people can go peruse the website and 123 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:29.199 find a time of day or or or a weekday 124 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:33.560 or a weekend or vacation or whatever to come up there, 125 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.800 because I think it's you've certainly intrigued a lot of 126 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:40.399 our listeners with your your description and the breadth of 127 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:43.519 of what you folks have there. It's it's it sounds 128 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:46.800 like what a what a collection? So how what's What's 129 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:47.439 the website? 130 00:07:48.600 --> 00:07:55.160 American Heritage Museum dot org is the website. We do 131 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:59.160 have one of our first special events coming up for 132 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:03.920 the year, which is on Memorial Day weekend, the Saturday 133 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.759 and Sunday of Memorial Day weekend. It's the Tank Demonstration Weekend. 134 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:12.439 So these vehicles are not just static. Will have a 135 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.800 lot of vehicles outside in a special tank driving area, 136 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:21.120 including the well known Sherman tank from World War Two, 137 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:24.000 but a lot of other vehicles that will be on 138 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:27.000 display and running that weekend. And not only can you 139 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:30.720 see them, drive and feel them, you can even go 140 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:33.200 for a ride or drive one of these tanks. We 141 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:36.919 have driving programs and we have ride programs where people 142 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:39.600 can get hands on and see what it was like 143 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:42.639 for these these eighteen nineteen year old kids that were 144 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:46.159 operating these things during World War Two. It's an absolutely 145 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:47.320 incredible experience. 146 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:52.279 Now that's a little bit beyond that. In order to 147 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:55.879 drive or ride in one of those there there's an 148 00:08:55.919 --> 00:08:58.240 additional cost there. So want I don't want my list 149 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:01.879 who's going up figuring that for the very reasonable admission price, 150 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:04.559 they also can you engage. 151 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:08.639 In Yeah, that you are absolutely correct that that is 152 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:12.440 definitely an additional item. But in this day and age, 153 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:15.440 people really like that hands on it. 154 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.039 Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure, but I want to make 155 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:21.480 sure that no one goes up there and is disappointed. 156 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:24.639 For me, I'm very happy just to just to observe. 157 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:30.159 I know what those what those tags look like, and 158 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.559 I've seen them. I spent I spent a few years 159 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:37.399 in the military. Never have been in any danger, trust 160 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:40.360 me on that, but I see a lot of it. 161 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:44.120 And this sounds like a fabulous museum. So Rob Callings, 162 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:49.600 the president and the financial director of the American Heritage Museum, 163 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:52.320 thanks for the information, and we'll do something again, maybe 164 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:55.360 sometime in May an advance a Memorial Day weekend and 165 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:56.279 tribute to veterans. 166 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:59.039 Okay, Dan, wonderful being on. 167 00:09:59.080 --> 00:09:59.879 Thank you so much. 168 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:03.120 Very welcome, Ron, thank you so much. We're going to 169 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:06.000 take a quick break here as we get ready for 170 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:08.440 our next guest, who is really going to be an 171 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:13.480 interesting guest. His name is John Wilson. He was indicted 172 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:18.120 in the Varsity Blues College admission scandal, and he was 173 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:23.639 his conviction was overturned and he is now suing USC 174 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:28.159 and Netflix over the coverage and the fallout of the 175 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:30.840 Varsity Blue scandal. We'll talk to John Wilson. I believe 176 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:35.720 he's a Massachusetts resident if I'm not mistaken, So again 177 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:41.000 I would suggest stay with us here on Nightside. You know, 178 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:45.679 there's a lot going on with WBZ and with iHeart. 179 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:49.320 We have a great app that we like to tell 180 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:52.559 you about. To pull down our ie hot app and 181 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:56.360 you can listen to the not only WBZ, but any 182 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:01.039 iHeart stations around the clock around the world. 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So pull it down, go 193 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.320 check it out, and you'll never and make us your 194 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:39.000 first preset. You'll never be more than a finger tip 195 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:42.840 away from listening to Nightside and WBZ from anywhere in 196 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:45.080 the world. Three sixty five, twenty four seven. Back on 197 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:46.080 Nightside right after this. 198 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:52.039 It's Nightside with Dan Ray on wbzs Boston's news radio. 199 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:57.679 Welcome back everyone. I'd like to welcome an extraordinary guest, 200 00:11:57.960 --> 00:12:04.919 John Wilson. Wilson, Welcome to Nightside. You have done what 201 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:08.080 very few people have been able to do, and that 202 00:12:08.240 --> 00:12:14.480 is successfully appeal an indictment and a conviction in federal court. 203 00:12:15.080 --> 00:12:21.639 So congratulations on clearing your name. People might remember your 204 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:25.240 name from the so called Varsity's the Varsity Blues college 205 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:28.519 admission scandal. No, we only have a few minutes, but 206 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:32.080 I'd like you to explain what you and your family 207 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:36.799 went through when their accusations leveled against you and your 208 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:40.879 family that you believed were absolutely unsubstantiated. 209 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:46.480 Yeah, so thanks for being here. It's literally been a 210 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:51.039 daily nightmare for over six years for my entire family. 211 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:56.200 This case not only affected me, but my wife who 212 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:00.440 had to watch our children every day suffer and literally 213 00:13:00.480 --> 00:13:02.559 I had to watch her cry herself to sleep almost 214 00:13:02.600 --> 00:13:07.039 every night. And our children were attacked not by schoolyard bullies, 215 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:11.759 but by federal prosecutors who falsely smeared them as being unqualified. 216 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:14.799 And my daughters, I had twin daughters. They're only sixteen 217 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:17.240 when this happened, and my son was just twenty one. 218 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:19.679 They were all in school. My daughters were in high school, 219 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:23.000 my son was in college. And it's been devastating this 220 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:23.879 entire time. 221 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:28.440 So the indictment came down in what year? 222 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:34.200 I came down in twenty nineteen, so just over sixteen. 223 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:39.039 That's six years ago. And the trial was held in 224 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:43.360 federal court here in Boston, one of a series of trials. Frankly, 225 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:47.559 and I must tell you, as a lawyer, I know 226 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:51.480 how difficult it is to be in federal court on 227 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:57.480 the defended side of the bar, because the Feds have 228 00:13:57.559 --> 00:14:00.639 a very high success rate. Who was the the US 229 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:03.120 attorney that brought the case, and it was who was 230 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:04.960 in charge of the office that brought the case at 231 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:05.720 that time. 232 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:08.559 When it was first brought. It was Andrew Lelling. He 233 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:11.879 was the lead US attorney in Boston. And it is 234 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:15.000 a dramatic experience. The federal government has a success rate. 235 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:17.559 They have a conviction rate of ninety nine point six percent. 236 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:20.120 And so when you're taking on the federal government, those 237 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.720 are the odds that the lawyers. My lawyers told me, 238 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:26.840 and it was a very difficult decision. They said, the 239 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:29.159 government has a ninety nine point six percent conviction rate. 240 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:31.600 It's going to take years. It's going to cost you 241 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:34.919 millions of dollars to fight them, even if you're innocent. 242 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:37.480 That was a set of decisions we had to make. 243 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:42.399 But you did fight them. You were convicted, but it 244 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:43.679 was overturned on appeal. 245 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:48.159 Right, our case was fundamentally different than every other case, 246 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:50.799 every other parent here. So to put this in perspective, 247 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:54.879 Singer had three thousand parent clients. Right, Singer was the ringleaders. 248 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:57.639 This was the guy that's the singer when you say 249 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:01.279 singer of just in my audience recalls who claimed an 250 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:05.519 ability to get pique people into school by hooka, by craft, 251 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:08.639 It's really good colleges by hooka by krunk. Correct. 252 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:12.320 Yes, he was the ring, ring leader and central com 253 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:14.879 man in this figure. But again to put in perspective, 254 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:18.399 he had three thousand clients, only thirty two were charged. 255 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:22.519 He had what they called dark side accounts and wholesome accounts. 256 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:25.159 His dark side accounts were only one percent of his clients. 257 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:27.879 Ninety nine percent of his accounts were never charged. They 258 00:15:27.879 --> 00:15:31.120 were wholesome parents like me that didn't do anything wrong. 259 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:35.039 So what happened is these thirty parents were all convicted. 260 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:38.279 They all played guilty. Thirty parents played guilty, and they 261 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:42.159 had very bad facts. Our facts were completely different. Those 262 00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:45.919 parents had kids who weren't qualified, so they were cheating 263 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:49.639 on tests. They were bribing coaches and their falsifying academic 264 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:53.320 and athletic profiles for their children to get their unqualified 265 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:56.559 children into colleges. We didn't do any of those things. 266 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:02.120 And yet you were sort of the fish that was 267 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:05.639 sneered in the net. I guess would be the way, unfortunately, 268 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:06.879 to describe it. 269 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:09.000 I think it was worse than that. I think they 270 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:13.279 actually purposely went after us because of Singer's three thousand clients, 271 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:17.360 there was only one in Massachusetts. So the Massachusetts prosecutors, 272 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:20.000 the federal prosecutors base in Massachusetts, they first uncovered this 273 00:16:20.120 --> 00:16:23.000 case from a tip, a random, unrelated tip from a 274 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:26.399 person in Connecticut on a separate crime. They quickly started 275 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:29.240 pulling on that thread, they found Hollywood celebrities and other 276 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:32.440 rich and famous people from California. But they needed to 277 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:34.879 get jurisdiction if they wanted to bring this high profile 278 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:37.879 case to Boston, and so part of their battle the 279 00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:41.559 turf battles between offices would be dependent upon having at 280 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.240 least one defendant in Massachusetts and then declaring a false 281 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.279 conspiracy so then they could bring the trials for Lori Laughlin, 282 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.919 Felicity Huffman, and all the other people in California to Boston. 283 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:54.879 So they needed one Boston parent to help make that 284 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:58.279 conspiracy case and to help make the trials take place here. 285 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:02.440 Did anybody move change of venue since the majority of 286 00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:05.559 the defenders, I guess we're California based or West Coast base. 287 00:17:05.640 --> 00:17:08.279 It makes all the sense in the world that that 288 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:10.960 case should be tried in California, and you would have 289 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:13.119 had to go back, and you know, you have had 290 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:15.880 the inconvenience having to go to California for your case, 291 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:19.920 But it seems to me unfair and inappropriate that all 292 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:22.319 of those other people had to had their case tried 293 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:23.519 here as well. 294 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:27.240 Yeah, it was challenged multiple times and the end it 295 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:29.160 ended up being two hundred and fifty people who had 296 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:31.319 to fly back and forth. When you include the witnesses, 297 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:34.839 the defendants, and the lawyers and the FBI between California 298 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:37.000 and Boston. Two undred and fifty flew back and forth. 299 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:39.240 And I was the only one parent in masses. It's 300 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:41.359 so I was driving to the courtroom. It would have 301 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:43.319 been much easier for me to fly to California if 302 00:17:43.359 --> 00:17:45.480 that was really what they wanted to do, but that 303 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:47.720 clearly wasn't what they wanted to do. They wanted to 304 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:50.839 have all the trials in Boston, the Boston prosecutors, so 305 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:53.079 it didn't matter my having overwhelming evidence. 306 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:56.960 And these are the most part we're college we're West 307 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:02.559 Coast colleges too, USC most of so the good right, 308 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:07.119 So the good news is that this unjust conviction of 309 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:13.119 you and your family overturned. But then I guess there 310 00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:17.519 was a Netflix story which incorporated you and did not 311 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:24.519 appropriately characterize what was the final result in you. Okay, 312 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:28.160 so you're suing Netflix in USC. You've also written a book, 313 00:18:28.359 --> 00:18:31.160 and I hope that some of our listeners will purchase 314 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:32.720 that book. Give us the name of the book. Is 315 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:33.680 it out yet or no? 316 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:35.799 Is it a vailable It just comes out today. It's 317 00:18:35.799 --> 00:18:38.440 out today on Amazon and all the other websites. It's 318 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:42.160 called Varsity Blues, the Scandal within the Scandal, and all 319 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:44.319 the proceeds in the book go to three charities. It's 320 00:18:44.359 --> 00:18:46.960 not about making money. This is about clearing the record 321 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:49.079 and clearing our name and getting the truth out there. 322 00:18:50.160 --> 00:18:52.039 And so one of the things that made us very 323 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:55.160 different than the other parents was our children were all qualified. 324 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:57.759 My twin daughter's got a perfect score and a nine 325 00:18:57.839 --> 00:19:01.400 ninety percentile score on the ACT. Fewer than five thousand 326 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:03.759 kids out of one point eight million get a perfect score, 327 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:06.359 and they didn't cheat. My son was a Division I 328 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:09.160 level player who had a world record in swimming and 329 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:11.799 who was playing on Stanford club teams for six years 330 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:14.599 year round, whose high school coach recommended him for the team, 331 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:16.799 and he joined the USC team and played on the team. 332 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:19.200 And so we didn't do the things these other parents did. 333 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:21.720 But we were lumped in for venue and then we 334 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:25.759 were smeared falsely by Netflix. And so Netflix they issued 335 00:19:25.799 --> 00:19:29.359 a movie they called it a documentary, that was released 336 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:32.160 three months before my trial, and so they poisoned the 337 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:34.240 jury pool. They have an audience, they have two hundred 338 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.880 and eighty million subscribers, five hundred million, half a billion 339 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:40.920 viewers in one hundred and ninety countries, and they put 340 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:44.480 together a film with a dozen parents who played guilty 341 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:47.559 and me, and we gave them a warning letter before 342 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:49.599 the movie came out. We said, because it was pre announced, 343 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:51.960 We said, if you're gonna put John Wilson, here are 344 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:54.119 the facts. We gave him a five hundred and fifty 345 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:56.759 page warning letter with all of the facts, and they 346 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:59.119 ignored it. And they included all of our facts, including 347 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:02.279 a polygraph. I voluntarily took a polograph test with the 348 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:04.880 head of the FBI Polygraph Division and the head of 349 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:10.480 the CIA Polygraph School and polygraph program worldwide. I passed 350 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:14.359 two days of polygraph test fully with flying colors. They 351 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:16.519 had all of that evidence, and they just ignored it 352 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:18.359 and went with their movie anyway, which smeared me and 353 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:19.200 polluted the jury. 354 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:23.480 Well, hopefully they will. They will pay the piper. John. 355 00:20:23.519 --> 00:20:25.880 We've run out of time here, but I got to 356 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:28.759 tell you the integrity in your voice, you hear it 357 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:32.839 in your voice. Congratulations, and I wish you continued success, 358 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:34.880 and I hope that you get your day in court 359 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:41.599 against Netflix, uh and uh, and whoever whoever defamed you 360 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:46.200 and your family pays the price. And obviously Netflix at 361 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:49.839 this point I think is going to be called, be 362 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:53.079 called in front of the bar of justice. Ironically. Thank 363 00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:55.799 you so much, John. Again, the book book comes. 364 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:59.000 Out to today today, Just come. 365 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:04.119 My Varsity Blues Scandal within a scandal, Netflix everywhere rather 366 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:07.480 Amazon dot Com everywhere, And I know I'm gonna try 367 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:10.720 to get a copy because I want to. I followed 368 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:12.799 those cases, but I did not follow them as closely 369 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:14.480 as I would have liked. That was in my role 370 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:16.960 as a talk show host, not as a TV reporter. 371 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:18.920 If I'd been a TV reporter, I probably would have 372 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:23.119 been in court there every day watching the case unfold. 373 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:25.039 Congratulations to you and your family. 374 00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:27.160 Thank you very much, appreciate it. 375 00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:29.799 You're very welcome. All Right, we're gonna take a break 376 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:33.079 new that's a great interesting story. I mean to actually 377 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:39.000 win even on appeal in federal court. That's a hill 378 00:21:39.039 --> 00:21:42.599 to climb. Back on Nights side with two more great 379 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:44.640 guests and two more great topics, and then we'll get 380 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:46.880 to the phone call portion of the program, and we're 381 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:49.720 going to start off talking about the Karen retrial, which 382 00:21:49.799 --> 00:21:51.000 restarted today. 383 00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:53.920 With Dan Ray. 384 00:21:54.559 --> 00:21:57.319 I'm Boston's News Radio. 385 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:02.119 All right, thank you very much. Let's get to our 386 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:07.319 next guest, John Schultz. He's a technology in an AI 387 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:12.480 artificial intelligent expert. He's founder and CEO of a website 388 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:16.319 called easy Locator, and he's going to talk to us 389 00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:21.200 about jen Z graduates. So these would be people who 390 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:24.200 have really just graduated from college. They would be in 391 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:29.200 sort of the twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, twenty five, 392 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:32.599 twenty six, twenty seven range. People who were born after 393 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:38.000 two thousand and twelve. No, I may be wrong on 394 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:40.599 I get my dates mixed up on this. I'm sorry. 395 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:44.319 Gen Z people were born from ninety six to twenty twelve, 396 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:50.279 so they could be anywhere from I guess twelve to 397 00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:53.079 twenty eight is the eighth So there are some of them. 398 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:54.880 I got the right age, but a lot of them 399 00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:58.160 are younger. John Schultz, Welcome to NIGHTSID. Sorry about that confusion. 400 00:22:58.200 --> 00:22:58.839 How are you tonight? 401 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:02.400