WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:03.720 Welcome to another episode of the Chicks on the Right podcast. 2 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:13.039 We are literally shaking right now. Today we have internet 3 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:17.640 superstar Josh Cider with us. We've played many a clip 4 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:23.839 of his on our show. He has been misgendered, mispigmented, 5 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:31.600 miss specied, miss indigenated, and today we get to find 6 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:34.960 out who he really is. So first things first, Josh, 7 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:37.759 how have you been aggrieved today? 8 00:00:38.600 --> 00:00:38.880 Uh? 9 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:42.399 Today, nothing so far. I'm a little apprehensive because you 10 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:46.000 guys are interviewing me, but I'm hoping that everything's okay 11 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:48.399 and I don't have to get counseling for it, so 12 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:49.359 we'll see how it is. 13 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:53.359 It won't hurt We won't hurt you. I promise it 14 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:56.479 won't be that that painful. Like, Okay, so you you 15 00:00:56.520 --> 00:00:58.759 said that you're in Chicago. You're Chicago guy. 16 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:01.439 Yeah, So I actually grew up I'm not. I grew 17 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:04.680 up two hours south in a college town called Champagne, Urbana, 18 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:07.480 where the University of Illinois is. But I came to 19 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:12.000 Chicago in twenty ten for law school. Actually go figure, 20 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:14.439 and I've been here for the last fifteen years. 21 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:18.439 So okay, Chicago. I used to live in Roscoe Village, 22 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:19.879 which is right near Wrigleyville. 23 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:21.519 I live two blocks from there. 24 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:24.359 Yet oh my gosh, okay, yeah, because I love it there. 25 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:26.120 I don't think I live there now because I'm a 26 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:27.920 little afraid of Like, how do you feel about the 27 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:30.920 safety and the mayor and the government there and like 28 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:32.959 all the leadership, how do you feel about that right now? 29 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:36.680 Yeah, that's a great question Pritzker. You know, he's a raging, 30 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:39.959 woke liberal to think every day he's saying something that's 31 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:43.239 utterly irrelevant and not germane to the issues that are 32 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:46.840 facing Chicago. And so he's talking about how homelessness is 33 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:51.680 caused by racism and Trump's a fascist. It's just like, dude, 34 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:55.840 there's armed robberies, carjackings, homicides going on all the time. 35 00:01:56.159 --> 00:01:58.760 How about we address these issues? And all he does 36 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:01.359 is virtue signal and then bring in Johnson's the mayor, 37 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:05.319 and like Glory Lightfoot, all he does is virtue signal 38 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:08.319 all the time. I mean, I'm sure obviously you ladies 39 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:10.360 see it every day, you talk about it every day, 40 00:02:10.400 --> 00:02:14.400 you watch them being interviewed, any woke liberal and it's 41 00:02:14.479 --> 00:02:18.879 like you're watching a clown show. So it's just nauseating 42 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:23.039 listening to them. But where I'm at, just west of Wrigley, 43 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:27.439 is nice, but there's parts of Chicago that are very dangerous. 44 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:29.080 So yep, yep, yeah. 45 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:32.639 God, I haven't heard the name Lori Lightfoot in a 46 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:34.759 mercifully long time. 47 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.280 Don't say it three times because then it's like beatlejic. 48 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:44.319 She looks like beetlejuice. Actually there's eerie result. Yeah for real. 49 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:47.479 So, Josh, when you I think most people got to 50 00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:51.439 know you and your work, not from like The Bachelor 51 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:55.680 forever ago, but from your first major troll, which was 52 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:59.840 transitioning to be a woman, and it was so affect 53 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:03.560 for so long that genuinely. 54 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:05.439 I was like, is he serious? 55 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:09.039 Like I cannot really tell. And then finally you came 56 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:11.639 out and you I think it was with Alex Stein. 57 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:13.520 You were finally like, this is a big fat troll 58 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:16.120 and here's why I did it. How long did you 59 00:03:16.280 --> 00:03:19.919 actually keep that up for and how like how much 60 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:22.919 of your life did you dedicate to it? 61 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:23.879 Off camera? 62 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:27.680 Well, yeah, great question. I mean, like any trans woman, 63 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.960 I'm just trolling and cause playing as a woman, so 64 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:32.560 I was just a dude and make up like the 65 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:36.000 rest of them, and off camera when I wasn't making posts. 66 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:39.599 I was never you know, wearing these outfits or putting 67 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:41.840 on lipstick. It was it would be like I would 68 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:43.960 post maybe two or three times a week. And so 69 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.000 for that two hour period when I was filming, I 70 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:49.159 would put on the makeup that would take like half 71 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:51.719 an hour, and then I'd walk outside, usually in a 72 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:55.560 heavy coat in the middle of Chicago summer, because unlike 73 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:59.360 most trans women, I'm not a pervert, so I didn't 74 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:02.080 want little kid had seen me like this. And then 75 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:04.520 for the like two minutes that I was filming a skit, 76 00:04:04.639 --> 00:04:06.919 I take the heavy coat off and do it. But 77 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:10.400 other than that, I was only portraying that when I 78 00:04:10.439 --> 00:04:11.120 was on camera. 79 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:13.800 So how long did it last? 80 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:17.319 How long it was six months until I did the 81 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:18.639 Alex Stein reveal? 82 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:22.560 Yeah, Oh, was that your plan all along? Or was 83 00:04:22.600 --> 00:04:25.240 it kind of organic? Like because because you talk about 84 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:29.160 being a lawyer, which I think that those are transferable skills, right, 85 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:32.800 because you if you were really honestly, because bear with me, 86 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:36.040 because as a lawyer, you go in and you're obviously 87 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:38.560 a good debater, right, Like, you have a point you're 88 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:41.439 trying to make, you can debate, you can argue a point, 89 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:43.720 and I feel like that's kind of what you're doing here, 90 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:48.000 Like you're over six month period. You were trying to 91 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.399 prove a point, and you did. You've proven a couple points, 92 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.439 you know, and I think people were duped and so 93 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:55.519 they were you proved your argument. 94 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:58.399 That's such a great question and great point. So I 95 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:01.759 was doing exactly what a does. I was using reducio 96 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:04.160 ad absurdum to say, look, if we take what these 97 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:07.000 woke people are saying at face value that men can 98 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:10.480 magically become women when they cross dress, then we have 99 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:14.720 to accept Josh Sider with a full beard, throwing on 100 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:17.240 a dressing lipstick, and you must accept me as a 101 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:21.079 woman because the medical guidelines say you don't have to transition, 102 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:23.920 you don't need to get surgery, you simply need to 103 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:26.600 self identify as a woman. And that was the rule 104 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:29.720 of law under Biden as well, not just the medical guidelines. 105 00:05:30.279 --> 00:05:32.199 And you are a woman. So I said, all right, 106 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:35.079 let's do it. Then Josh is a woman. You have 107 00:05:35.160 --> 00:05:37.079 to accept it. And they were I think their brains 108 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:40.000 were short circuiting because they were seeing how ridiculous it was. 109 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:44.319 So yeah, it was such a masterful troll on so 110 00:05:44.439 --> 00:05:48.079 many levels, and now you know, you're you're coming up 111 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:52.560 with new ways to identify all the time, not just 112 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:54.600 for you, but like for your. 113 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:57.160 Fake baby and all of it. So how do you 114 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:57.639 do that? 115 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:01.040 Like how at some point you've got run out right, 116 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:03.959 Like there's gonna be there's got to be a finite 117 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:07.720 amount of identifying that you can do. 118 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:09.519 How do you come up with these things? 119 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:12.839 Well, that's a great question. It's something I do think about. 120 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:16.639 But thankfully, woke people are so dumb and what they 121 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:19.519 believe is so stupid and unprincipled that I think I 122 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:22.519 actually have an infinite amount of material thanks to them. 123 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:25.079 So it will one day, you know, I'll have to 124 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:28.079 maybe do something else. But these people there, it's such 125 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.519 a clown show that it makes it so easy to 126 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:32.639 mock them. And I think that's what needs to happen, 127 00:06:32.680 --> 00:06:36.439 because they're actually hurting people, and we're seeing, you know, 128 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:39.720 little what's going on with children and how they're brainwashing them. 129 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:42.439 I think it's necessary that we mock them. I think 130 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:44.680 they're deserving of derision, and I'm going to do it 131 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:47.120 as long as I can until this stuff is out 132 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:50.600 of our schools and kind of out of the popular nomenclature. 133 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:52.040 I think that's very important. 134 00:06:52.759 --> 00:06:55.759 Did this affect your personal life? Like did when when 135 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:58.040 you did this? Because I would imagine there's some people 136 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:00.240 that you're close to that were like, okay, I kind 137 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:01.720 of know that he's doing this as a troll, But 138 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:03.680 then there may have been people that you're just acquaintances 139 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:05.160 with that are like, I don't know what the hell's 140 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:07.480 going on with this guy, or like, I mean, just 141 00:07:07.639 --> 00:07:11.279 personally to people, go okay, because obviously you're kind of 142 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:14.319 a right minded guy. You're sort of at least on 143 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:16.720 this issue. I don't know where you stand politically, like 144 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:21.240 just generally, but on this issue you are conservative, it 145 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:23.680 seems so. I mean, are there people that look at 146 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:25.879 you and go, okay, now we can't be friends anymore? 147 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:28.560 Has this affected some of your relationships just you doing this? 148 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:32.879 That's a great question. Luckily, everyone except liberals has a 149 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:35.879 great sense of humor. So because most none of my 150 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:38.439 friends are liberals, they all thought it was hilarious, and 151 00:07:38.519 --> 00:07:40.560 some of them weren't sure if I was doing it 152 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.079 in jest or if I was earnest about it. But 153 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:44.759 they all have a sense of humor, and they're like, 154 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:47.439 look if you're doing a joke. Man, we you know 155 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:51.160 that's hilarious. If you're not, I totally support you. But whatever, 156 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:53.800 So either way you cut it, everyone was kind of 157 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:56.079 cool with it. But I didn't nobody knew that I 158 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:58.839 was doing a troll other than my best friend and 159 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.759 my brother, and so when people would ask me, I 160 00:08:01.800 --> 00:08:04.600 would just give them kind of an ambiguous answer. But 161 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:07.519 the only people I think to get really angry about it, 162 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:10.879 ironically were woke liberals, which is funny because they made 163 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:13.399 up the rules that I'm playing by. I'm just playing 164 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:16.000 by their rules, so get mad at the science. 165 00:08:16.120 --> 00:08:18.879 That's so, that's so interesting that the people on the 166 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:23.759 right were the tolerant ones, right surprise Haha, Yeah, that's 167 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:24.639 super interesting. 168 00:08:24.720 --> 00:08:26.759 But a lot of people were confused by it. 169 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:30.040 To answer your question, close close personal friends were like 170 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:32.399 very confused, and then when I did the reveal, it 171 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:33.159 all made sense. 172 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:34.720 Yeah yeah, okay. 173 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:37.840 Well and even still like to this day, sometimes when 174 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:40.240 we'll grab one of your recent videos to play to 175 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:42.519 our audience, we can see the comments where people are 176 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:45.080 like that guy is just such a loser, Like they 177 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:48.720 genuinely believe what you're saying, and we're like, no, no, no, no, no, 178 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:51.399 this is it's parody. It's you know, he's being ironic. 179 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:54.279 It's hilarious. He's awesome, and you should follow him. And 180 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:57.320 here's why, because this is that's how effective what you're 181 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:01.480 doing is it is so believable, right, yeah, And so 182 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:05.879 because so many people are confused, and because you are 183 00:09:06.039 --> 00:09:08.759 a bit of a mystery, we wanted to try to 184 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:11.039 peel the onion a little bit. I mean, if you search, 185 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:13.559 like if you do a Google search on your name, 186 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:18.240 you know you're going to read that you've been bisexual, gay, trans, black, 187 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:21.120 a firefighter, a reality show contestant, a. 188 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:23.960 Model, like all lawyer, a lawyer. 189 00:09:24.919 --> 00:09:27.919 So who is the real Josh Sider? 190 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:29.440 Yeah, great question. 191 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:32.120 I do think I'm kind of enigmatic to most of 192 00:09:32.120 --> 00:09:36.039 the public. So yeah, I some of that stuff, most 193 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:38.080 of what's on the internet is not true. 194 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:39.360 Some of it is. 195 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:41.720 I actually was a firefighter for a year. I was 196 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:44.840 working at a volunteer fire department, which I think seventy 197 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:47.519 percent of our nation's fire departments are volunteers. So I 198 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:51.919 did that as a senior in college. I'm not bisexual, 199 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:54.759 I'm not gay, shocker, I'm not a woman. I hate 200 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:57.159 to break it to you guys, and I'm not black, 201 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:00.840 but if you follow the science, you might think I am. 202 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:05.320 You might be confused, But I'm just a I grew up. 203 00:10:05.360 --> 00:10:08.080 I was homeschooled my whole life, with the exception of 204 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:12.399 one year in a small town in Champagne or Banna, Illinois. 205 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:15.320 I went on to the University of Illinois and got 206 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:19.279 a sociology degree, which kind of fueled my desire to 207 00:10:19.360 --> 00:10:21.399 do a social experiment. And then I went on and 208 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:25.120 got my law degree. But most of what's online about 209 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:28.960 me is fake people I dated, allegedly dated, or how 210 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:32.159 I identify. But I like to think of myself as 211 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:36.559 a libertarian. I'm very inspired by William F. Buckley, Junior, 212 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:42.080 Thomas Sole. I think that Charlie modern day. I think 213 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:44.600 Charlie Kirk is great. I think what he's doing is 214 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:48.919 great work. But I tend to lean libertarian conservative. But 215 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:52.480 I would mostly describe myself as anti woke, and so 216 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:56.440 anything that is woke, I'm anti that, and that's kind 217 00:10:56.480 --> 00:11:00.279 of the impetus behind everything I do online. But I'm 218 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:02.559 just a thirty eight year old guy. I think with 219 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:04.919 a sense of humor, and I think it's resonating with 220 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:05.879 a lot of people. 221 00:11:06.919 --> 00:11:10.039 I love that. So obviously your death was not real 222 00:11:10.159 --> 00:11:11.919 in twenty twenty three that. 223 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:16.559 Way, now liberals might be confused, But yes, I'm not dead. 224 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:18.480 Shock was that? 225 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:20.559 Seriously? How did that happen? Josh? 226 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:21.519 What was that all about? 227 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:25.120 So my account got hacked in a statement was posted, 228 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:29.919 and so it ended up just going insanely viral and 229 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:32.279 everyone was picking up on it saying I was dead, 230 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:34.519 and then I got back into my account and had 231 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:35.960 to announce that I was alive. 232 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:38.080 But I see how, like so. 233 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:41.559 Many I'm always the subject of controversy, So I can 234 00:11:41.600 --> 00:11:43.799 see how people might be like, what is going on 235 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:44.559 with this guy? 236 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:45.360 But was it? 237 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:48.279 Kind of we were talking before we went on and 238 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:50.600 like in pre show here, and I was like, in 239 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:52.799 a way, it'd be kind of cool, like if somebody 240 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:54.440 said that you were Diggs and you can see like 241 00:11:54.559 --> 00:11:58.480 who actually mourned you and who doesn't like you? Can 242 00:11:58.600 --> 00:11:59.879 you know what I mean? It's kind of like going 243 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:02.799 It's kind of like floating above your own funeral. So 244 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:04.679 I wonder if you had that experience, like if you 245 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:07.399 could see people online going, oh I loved him so much, 246 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:09.519 he was so great, Like if those are the people that. 247 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:12.000 Are people that like you thought liked you, who were 248 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:13.279 like I never liked that guy. 249 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:16.480 Guy was a jerk. I never liked him anyway, you 250 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:18.600 know what I mean, Like, did you experience any of that? 251 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:20.200 Uh, yeah, you know a little bit. 252 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:22.159 I saw what people were saying, and it was actually 253 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:25.879 mostly you know, compassionate, and I felt horrible that these 254 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:29.000 people were going through these emotions and like, you know, 255 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:32.639 seriously struggling with the fact that they thought I was dead. 256 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:36.320 So I actually felt terrible about that. It's all kind 257 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:38.960 of become I think, part of like the lore that 258 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:43.600 surrounds the craziness that is me. So but I do 259 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:45.799 feel bad for that, and I wouldn't want anyone to. 260 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:49.320 You know, my dad died and my grandparents died all 261 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:53.720 within the last few years, and so I understand death 262 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:57.600 is very traumatic. And yeah, I kind I do feel 263 00:12:57.600 --> 00:12:58.639 bad that all of that. 264 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.240 Like, what what a crazy easy thing that was? It 265 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:05.120 was just so nuts that was and it lives forever, right, 266 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.200 It's on the internet forever. You're just like, can we 267 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:08.919 just get that off of their Yeah. 268 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:10.919 Yeah, yeah, the internet does. 269 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:13.840 Look that's a great point, right, Yeah. 270 00:13:14.039 --> 00:13:16.559 I've seen in some of your more recent I don't 271 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:18.559 even know what to call them, like bits or skits. 272 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:19.600 I don't even know what to call them. 273 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:20.440 However, you refer to. 274 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:24.519 Them though, and you're using a new acronym, which is 275 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:28.360 bound to get people's feathers ruffled. So could you explain 276 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:31.879 what nega stands for? 277 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:33.320 Oh my god, you be careful. 278 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:35.720 I know, I'm trying to be super careful with that 279 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:36.840 shorty sound. 280 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:42.159 Yeah, NAGA is non conforming the ethnic gender in gay 281 00:13:42.279 --> 00:13:47.440 assignments because the Alphabet Mafia wants a very tiny just 282 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:51.759 LGBTQ I a plus. But there's people that aren't gay 283 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:55.360 and they don't subscribe to a certain gender. So I 284 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:59.039 came up with NAGA so that there's people within the 285 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:03.159 Alphabet Mafia that don't fit into traditional boxes. And for 286 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:05.840 some reason people are getting all up in arms about it. 287 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:10.320 But I don't invent the acronyms, so right. 288 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:12.559 I mean, it is what it is, Josh, you got 289 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:13.279 to run with that. 290 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:18.480 I cannot get enough of all of this, Like I 291 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:21.039 love everything that you're doing so much. 292 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:24.279 I don't know about everything you're doing. 293 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.080 For example, I hear you can confirm if it's true 294 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:29.519 that you're on only fans. 295 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:31.200 Oh my gosh, are you do? 296 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:32.519 You want to tell people. 297 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:35.320 Like what kind of exclusive content they're getting out there? 298 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:37.000 Is it like Burt Reynolds content. 299 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:40.039 I don't have a big bushy I think he had 300 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:42.480 a big bushy mustache. Maybe I'm thinking of Tom Selleck. 301 00:14:42.519 --> 00:14:43.480 I think they both did. 302 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:45.320 Both of them did. 303 00:14:45.639 --> 00:14:48.919 But it's not something I am on only fans. I've 304 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:52.080 been on it since twenty eighteen, when basically it had 305 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:54.840 only been out for like a year, so that's seven years. 306 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:59.279 It's something that has provided me the ability to have 307 00:14:59.399 --> 00:15:02.960 financial independence and do what I do online, because if 308 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.799 it weren't for that, I would be working probably a 309 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:08.360 nine to five job and I wouldn't be able to, 310 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:11.320 you know, do the skits and bits that I do. 311 00:15:12.320 --> 00:15:14.080 And so I'm very grateful to it. But it's not 312 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:17.879 something that I brand myself with or ever promote. I've 313 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:22.320 never once promoted it. I prefer yeah, no, no, no, It's 314 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:24.879 totally fine. But I'm not ashamed of it. I think 315 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:29.159 anybody can do whatever they want, you know, with their bodies, 316 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:31.759 as long as it's not involving six year olds like 317 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:32.879 woke people want to do. 318 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:33.240 Yeah. 319 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:37.240 So it's been very nice financially, and so that's why 320 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:39.960 I keep it. But it's not something I like brand. 321 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:42.679 Oh I'm an only fans model. I think that's so 322 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:46.759 cringe when people kind of move forward with that first. 323 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:48.519 It's and it's like they're number one thing. 324 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:51.159 Yeah, it's just weird. Why would you want to identify 325 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:52.519 as an only fans model? 326 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:56.480 So yeah, yeah, okay. So when it comes to the 327 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:58.720 woke stuff, do you think that the pendulum is swinging 328 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:00.919 the other because we went so far in the woke 329 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:03.320 direction for so many years, you think it's swinging back 330 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:05.639 the other way, that pendulum because of people like you 331 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:08.200 and you know, just people getting sick of it and 332 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:10.759 Trump getting elected. I mean, we think that there's a 333 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:14.360 little bit of a resurgence and normalcy and like common sense. 334 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:15.519 But I don't know, what do you think? What do 335 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:15.879 you think? 336 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:18.279 I absolutely do And you know, I was talking with 337 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.759 my mother and she says, oftentimes progressives or people are 338 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:24.840 self described you know, liberals, They start off with a 339 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:27.200 good idea, which is that they want to fix or 340 00:16:27.240 --> 00:16:34.159 remedy something, but inevitably the pendulum always swings one thousand 341 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:36.480 miles too far the other way, and they end up 342 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:39.159 destroying the baby out with the bathwater, I don't know 343 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:41.639 any better way to describe it. And they destroy everything 344 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:43.759 they were trying to fix, and usually it's a small 345 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:47.320 issue they were trying to fix. So the pendulum, I believe, 346 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:49.240 is definitely swinging the other way. And I kind of 347 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:53.240 felt that shift in ethos site, say, like in October 348 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:57.519 of last year, when Trump was, you know, getting gearing 349 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.919 to get elected. I felt that the nation kind of 350 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:03.720 just shifted between October and November, and by the time 351 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:07.200 he took office in January of this year, I think everybody, 352 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:11.240 as you said, is so over the woke nonsense and 353 00:17:11.319 --> 00:17:13.440 sees it for the clown show that it is. And 354 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:16.359 so that's very reassuring because for so many years, I 355 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:18.200 think all of us felt like we're living in the 356 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:21.319 twilight zone, Like how do I live in a country 357 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:24.160 where I can get censored on X for just stating 358 00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:29.079 a fact that someone finds offensive. So I think it's 359 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:32.599 a win for free speech and I'm very grateful for it. 360 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:35.039 I don't agree with everything that Trump does, but I 361 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:38.440 think he has been an instrumental part in dismantling wokeness, 362 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:41.079 and I do think wokeness is a disease. I think 363 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:43.559 it's a cancer, and I think it's good that it's 364 00:17:43.640 --> 00:17:47.119 kind of I think, on its last legs, to be honest. 365 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:49.759 But if Liberals are want to keep leading with it, 366 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:52.359 they're going to keep losing elections. So they can go 367 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:54.680 ahead and keep being woke, they're going to keep losing. 368 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:57.720 So we also play with that they've not learned a 369 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:00.440 single lesson, just based on what we saw from their 370 00:18:00.440 --> 00:18:03.720 little the start of their DNC meeting yesterday, they're like 371 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.759 starting out with the land acknowledgments and saying all the 372 00:18:06.839 --> 00:18:10.640 trans rite stuff. I mean, it's just they've learned nothing, 373 00:18:10.680 --> 00:18:11.519 which I guess is. 374 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:13.240 Good for us. 375 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:17.519 Right, it's almost like a compulsion. It's almost compulsive on 376 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:20.440 their part. I was talking actually to my therapist, he's 377 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:23.880 an OCD specialist, and he said, there's people that have 378 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:27.279 OCD where they have to virtue signal all the time 379 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:30.480 and they get stuck in this. It becomes a lifestyle 380 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:33.839 where you just can't stop in watching democrats talk every 381 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:38.160 other sentence is you know about someone's color or orientation. 382 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:41.079 It's nauseating and I just don't think they can help 383 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:44.000 themselves at this point. Yeah, so as you said, let 384 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:47.319 them keep being compulsive virtue signalers. I don't think it's 385 00:18:47.400 --> 00:18:49.039 resonating with anyone anymore. 386 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:52.920 So we need therapists who specialize in tds. That's what 387 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:55.200 we need. I hope that therapists out there are paying 388 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:57.920 attention and they're like, hmm, see a need fill a. 389 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:03.160 Needy industry, and there's I think millions of people that 390 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:06.039 suffer from it. It's I try occasionally I listen to 391 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:09.079 like NPR or something, and you know, they'll interview a 392 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:12.400 musical artist and all they talk about is how they're 393 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:17.440 you know, black, queer, fat, disabled and had no opportunity 394 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:20.599 in America. It's like, aren't you here to talk about 395 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:23.799 your music? Like, why are you talking about it's just 396 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:24.720 not stings. 397 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:29.960 Yeah. So you've got just a massive following across social 398 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:34.079 media platforms, which means that you're quite likely accustomed to 399 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.880 what we're accustomed to with much smaller followings, and that 400 00:19:38.039 --> 00:19:43.119 is hate online and threats online because of your ideology. 401 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:45.720