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<v Speaker 1>Weird things happened in.

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<v Speaker 2>Weird Weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, we have an exciting event in May that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to you about. My father. Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Bledsoe will be the keynote guest at the Contact Modalities

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<v Speaker 1>Expo at the Lake Lawn Resort in Delavan, Wisconsin, from

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<v Speaker 1>May second to May fourth. Come check out the premiere

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<v Speaker 1>lunch a SkyWatch weather permitting on Friday. On Saturday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>Dad will be interviewed live on stage by Jimmy Church

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<v Speaker 1>in a fireside style chat, and on Sunday night there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a cocktail party with a live DJ

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<v Speaker 1>and a live panel. Throughout the weekend, there will be

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<v Speaker 1>three conference rooms running simultaneously with some really cool presenters

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<v Speaker 1>with amazing topics such as breath work, sound and residence therapy,

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<v Speaker 1>much more. Get your tickets and more information at Contact

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<v Speaker 1>Modalities xpo dot com and come hang with us. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to a very special reunion episode of BLEDSA said So,

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<v Speaker 1>we have an amazing, amazing guest that we had on

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<v Speaker 1>episode one twenty Reclaiming Your Light with Molly Adler. Mollie,

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<v Speaker 1>you are a wonderful, wonderful person. As you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the two years that we've been friends, it has just

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<v Speaker 1>progressed and just like gone off to the races. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like we stay in touch pretty frequently and just

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<v Speaker 1>like I can always go to you for like the

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<v Speaker 1>best esoteric gossip, deepest in for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I love how that is my fucking calling card.

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<v Speaker 1>That's It's true, That's that's that's your calling card for

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<v Speaker 1>esoteric gossip UFO craziness, I mean anything. You're just the

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<v Speaker 1>person that I can rely on. You've sent people my

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<v Speaker 1>way and sent some really cool people my way, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just always know that I can call you and

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<v Speaker 1>we just have the most hype conversation. So anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>just have to say thank you for coming back on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I've been very much looking forward to this.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing really, I'm doing well, Ryan, I thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom's an English teacher. So even now if I

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<v Speaker 2>say I'm doing good, I'm like bad, I'm doing well,

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<v Speaker 2>but I am doing really good. It's nice to be back.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's so great because I love your listeners. So

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<v Speaker 2>many bloodso said so listeners have come to my podcast

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<v Speaker 2>even my Patreon and so it's really cool and I

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<v Speaker 2>love it. So it seems like our audiences are very simpatico,

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<v Speaker 2>so excited to chat with you guys again.

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<v Speaker 1>Likewise, by the way we do. Actually, I get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of messages being like I heard you on Molly

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<v Speaker 1>a Show back from the Borderline, and I'm like, no way, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I love.

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<v Speaker 3>You're sipping your UFOT right now. Also, that's like the

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<v Speaker 3>alternate version of esoteric gossip.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm serving the all the UFOT piping hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and you do have that's your brand.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is. Except I can't say half the things

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say. So just know that I have

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<v Speaker 2>so much tea that I'm going to just hold it

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<v Speaker 2>because it's still tough today.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still tea, Okay, okay, green tea is still tea,

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<v Speaker 3>just like Black Tea is still teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I allowed to plug your other show? Or do

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<v Speaker 1>you keep them separate my show?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You have another podcast?

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<v Speaker 5>What Night Night Bitch?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, isn't it funny? Let me just tell you

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<v Speaker 2>I have not uploaded on Night Night Bitch in six

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<v Speaker 2>damn months because I could not. I was pregnant as

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<v Speaker 2>hell this summer and it was so hot and I

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<v Speaker 2>just said it, listen, I need one needs to just

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<v Speaker 2>take a knee for a second. And so Night Night Bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still doing numbers that people love that podcast, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just I did it on a whim. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to start uploading to that feed again. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead, But I'm just it's wild to know that,

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<v Speaker 2>like it really is a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You get your esoteric gossip and your UFO t on

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<v Speaker 1>Night Night Bitch. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>Bring it back. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I will.

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<v Speaker 5>It is coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that I am not no longer pregnant, I can.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I can achieve much more.

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<v Speaker 4>It was we had a whole baby since the last

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<v Speaker 4>time we.

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<v Speaker 1>Talked to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I sure did, and boy she's a chunk, So yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, and she's adorable too. Every now and then

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<v Speaker 1>you'll bless me with pictures and I show them my

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<v Speaker 1>wife and we just geek out about you know what's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like so many people around us are just

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<v Speaker 1>having babies.

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<v Speaker 2>I've noticed that myself, your age age, it must Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess we're gonna Sometimes I look at people that

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<v Speaker 2>are my age, like I went to high school with them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I see them being so like parenty, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, am I a Am I a parent? Now? Like?

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<v Speaker 5>Am I the person?

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<v Speaker 1>And that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? That kids look at and they're like, oh, she's

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<v Speaker 2>a mom, Like what No, So I wear more black.

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<v Speaker 4>Just keep doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just wearing more and more black, like looking more

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<v Speaker 2>and more like Mary Kate Olsen. I feel like the

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<v Speaker 2>more I look like I've been told I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been told Elizabeth Olsen, I'm Elizabeth Olsen in looks,

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<v Speaker 2>but Mary Kate and spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>I've known you for two years now. We've obviously like

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<v Speaker 1>hung out in person zoom called all that stuff done

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<v Speaker 1>the show and I have to say, like, I never

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<v Speaker 1>now that you say that, I'm like, I can't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, I've been I've received many messages saying that,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's great. She's she's a really beautiful woman, so

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate the comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally feel like I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 2>To this and you know, I've never watched the show

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<v Speaker 2>because it's apparently the version of her in this uh

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<v Speaker 2>superhero show. Like people are like specifically that version of her.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's it's a cult as shit.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was much more intense because I had red

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<v Speaker 2>hair for approach, did not. Yeah, I did so when

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<v Speaker 2>my hair was that like red color, I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>that comment very much.

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<v Speaker 4>You probably looked identical.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you might not get into that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>but that particular show.

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<v Speaker 1>You are, Yeah, I should cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, cool.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's like this show like the Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>really good man.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard it was done really well as well, so

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<v Speaker 2>I will watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really liked it. I'm interested in uh hitting

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<v Speaker 1>you up to pick your brain about some UFO T.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you phrase it like I told you wished

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<v Speaker 1>for well, I mean you know, you know, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>did just kind of brag about how anytime I call

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<v Speaker 1>her up, I get my T I get my you

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<v Speaker 1>get your hot goss.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, we can.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I can, I can go where we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit in our pre chat at and Nick.

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<v Speaker 5>Nick had had bopped out for a.

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<v Speaker 2>Second, but now he's bopped back in, so you'll you'll

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<v Speaker 2>hear this through the first time. But I was just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>how as we all know, I feel like it's been

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<v Speaker 2>for the last three months like UFO, U, A, P

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<v Speaker 2>N HI, whatever the hell acronym were going, it's been

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<v Speaker 2>that area's super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 5>So much stuff has been going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was telling Ryan, there have been three hours

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<v Speaker 2>the interviews here, four hour interviews there, five hour and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going, I can't keep up. I So I really,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've been doing pretty admirably. I'll like, as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm falling asleep with my baby, I'll be playing that

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<v Speaker 2>and like on a sleep timer, just trying to like

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<v Speaker 2>inject my veins with like what I should know. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I am feeling like what I stepped back and realized,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's part of the reason why I made that

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<v Speaker 2>two part series Ryan that we were talking about. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I said to myself, a lot you can tell

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<v Speaker 2>that some of these experiencers and the whistleblowers whatever you

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<v Speaker 2>want to call them, They're all the same archetype, right.

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<v Speaker 2>These are ex military dudes, and listen, I'm a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got on dates with guys like this. They're the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of guys that like get hives when you start

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<v Speaker 2>crying or something like do you know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 2>Or they're like just you know, you say something really

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<v Speaker 2>deep and they're like yeah, yeah, you know, like have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever thought about dying?

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<v Speaker 5>And they're like, I know the shot please, you know, So.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cheating.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the vibe. And the thing is that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>that they're bad people, all of them. It doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>that they have bad intentions, even all of them. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think that they are like spiritually neutered by the

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<v Speaker 2>veils that they're looking through. So they're looking through this

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<v Speaker 2>really hyper masculinized military lens, and they also are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them contracted up to their eyeballs in what

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<v Speaker 2>they can and can't say. And so when I made

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<v Speaker 2>that episode, I'm going, look at all the veils we're

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<v Speaker 2>having to get information through, and then god knows what

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<v Speaker 2>like misinformation is being deliberately injected, and so that is

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<v Speaker 2>a cacophony of shit that none of us can hope

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<v Speaker 2>to find any sense of truth, and that's what they want,

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<v Speaker 2>because then you hear things like Chris speaking about his

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<v Speaker 2>very legitimate experience, but unfortunately people don't know that it's

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate because not all of them have witnessed it like

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<v Speaker 2>we have. I've witnessed it myself, so I would be

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<v Speaker 2>into people, not the crazy people attacking human beings online,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would maybe be the one looking at all

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff about Chris and going, I want to believe

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<v Speaker 2>that so much, but I just can't believe it because

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen it, and so therefore I would loop

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<v Speaker 2>your dad in with all the rest.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's what they want, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And who the day is I don't know, but there

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<v Speaker 2>is a day there because of what we're witnessing right now,

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<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't look like this hot ass mess. So what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying is too, I think there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys that are coming out that have a good heart.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that want to say something. But what you're

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<v Speaker 2>seeing with the telepathy tapes, with this you hear oh

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<v Speaker 2>a psionic asset, craft, biologics and all of this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that is so not getting to the essence of what

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<v Speaker 5>And it is giving.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm scared of actually talking about what this means. They're

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<v Speaker 3>That's a really good point. It's it's like the hyperfixation

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<v Speaker 2>Because they're still comfortable, well they're.

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<v Speaker 3>No, But but also I think, like, what what you're

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<v Speaker 4>Like what actually is it? And yet right, yeah, what

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if they actually you guys, they would literally have

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting closer, right because they're thinking about it in

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<v Speaker 2>the absurd, the unknowable, the unknown. And they I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>calling out dudes in general. You guys are not those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the guys that are going, okay, We're okay with

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<v Speaker 2>sitting in the unknown, We're okay with wondering what does

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<v Speaker 2>I would live my life? Those guys just want to

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<v Speaker 4>Don't know things, right.

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<v Speaker 3>We're afraid to be like, we truly don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>that is. It's so much more comfortable to put labels

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<v Speaker 3>on something, yeah, and say I know exactly what that is. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not that, No, you're stupid, it's this. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>comforting and like that just it honestly causes like a

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<v Speaker 3>out and getting really aggressive to anyone who disagrees with them,

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<v Speaker 3>because like, deep down, there's no willingness to say at all,

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<v Speaker 3>Like listen, I don't know, I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just just telling you what my experience is. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, no, I am fucking right, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>Well you Oh sorry, I was just gonna say, you

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<v Speaker 1>add a whole another layer to that. I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>worldview be challenged, right, it makes them uncomfortable. But then

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<v Speaker 1>we're also talking about another layer here, which is people

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<v Speaker 1>who are dogs that bark for the government agenda facts

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<v Speaker 1>the government says, bark, and then they get on their

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<v Speaker 1>various content creation channels and they say blah blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah, whatever the story is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>psionics or biologics or Nhi, Nhi, n Hi, get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here, bro Nhi? Is that that I thought.

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<v Speaker 4>It was you?

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<v Speaker 1>Ap, I thought it was fo they're calling it now

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<v Speaker 1>non human intelligence. Yeah, it's neuur linguistic programming. It's like whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>You there there.

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<v Speaker 2>They probably know when people are going along with their thing,

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<v Speaker 2>when everyone starts using the same phrasing that want them

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<v Speaker 2>to use. And you know what came up for me

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<v Speaker 2>when you were saying, like what you were saying, Nick

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<v Speaker 2>is and everyone knows I will go to the bat

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<v Speaker 2>for me for some cris blood. So because I met

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<v Speaker 2>your dad, and I think that one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that and also I happen to have. All my dad's

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<v Speaker 2>family is from Kentucky and from North Carolina, and so

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<v Speaker 2>all my family have really heavy Southern drawls, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like my and heavy you know, like that old North

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina accent that like my grandma had and stuff. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's a beautiful accent, by the way. That's another thing,

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<v Speaker 2>Like the North Carolina accent is a really beautiful of

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<v Speaker 2>the Southern accents, I think, but people really do. It

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<v Speaker 2>goes to show, in my opinion, how prejudiced people are

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<v Speaker 2>too slow speaking Southern people, right who. That's a cultural thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And some of the most beautiful poets and the most

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<v Speaker 2>brilliant minds were people who had like a Southern drawl,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're getting discounted because of that. So on one hand,

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<v Speaker 2>I see people saying that about your dad, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I also the thing that infuriates me to see most

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<v Speaker 2>because of the conversations I've had with you and your dad,

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<v Speaker 2>is them thinking your dad is only seeing this through

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<v Speaker 2>some evangelical Christian lens and he's somehow like just this

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<v Speaker 2>small town boy who only reads the Bible. Your dad

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<v Speaker 2>is so well informed about all of this, studies this

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<v Speaker 2>so much, but he doesn't feel like he has to

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<v Speaker 2>convince everybody of stuff, and so he takes that position.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you the irony about the internet right now

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<v Speaker 2>is that the people that actually have discernment, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>get heard. And the people that are out there, like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, that are barking like dogs with their chest

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<v Speaker 2>and claiming to know stuff, they are somehow seen as

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<v Speaker 2>the authority. And what I see in your dad is

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<v Speaker 2>he's just going like, I know what I know, because

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<v Speaker 2>he can't describe probably half the stuff he's experienced in

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<v Speaker 2>human language, and so he's doing his very meager best

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to cough cough, like a lot of not

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<v Speaker 2>calling anyone else specifically. But some shows that he's been

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<v Speaker 2>on the people that have interviewed him. You can tell

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<v Speaker 2>are I'm trying to be I'm just saying call I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying is that they have the spiritual maturity of like

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<v Speaker 2>an earthworm.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, And that is the realcity.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of the part of the disinformation cult.

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<v Speaker 2>And even if they weren't, they're just not able to

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<v Speaker 2>have these conversations in a way that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get anything meaningful out of it. And so your poor

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<v Speaker 2>dad is just sitting there trying to do his best

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<v Speaker 2>and tell his story. And he's telling the truth. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's a reason why comments sections are flooded with people

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<v Speaker 2>saying I don't know, but I believe this man, right

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<v Speaker 2>that I see that all the time. Yeah, And there's

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<v Speaker 2>a reason because your dad is just living his truth.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I met your dad even before we all

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<v Speaker 2>went to dinner, and he literally is going, guys, we

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<v Speaker 2>need to go, we need to go, We need and

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan's like, Dad, can we please finish our mozrelistics and

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas can be for a minute. Yeah, And Chris is

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<v Speaker 2>like not being rude, but you can see he's physically

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<v Speaker 2>itching and he's like, we need to yeah, we need

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<v Speaker 2>being human for that, but you can tell it's just

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<v Speaker 2>this is his life and he's living that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>just what happened before I saw what I said. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna talk again because your listeners most of them

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<v Speaker 2>have heard it. But when I witnessed that glowing, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>flaming golden orb right above our head, right after he

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<v Speaker 2>told me, what do you want to heal from? Think

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<v Speaker 2>about that, Think about so all of that stuff. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw what I saw, And your dad is just not

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who's trying to beat his chest and tell everybody

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<v Speaker 2>what he thinks. So watching people just get him so

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<v Speaker 2>wrong in comments sections is just it's tough because, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said before we rolled, I wish I could download

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<v Speaker 2>what I saw into everybody's brains.

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<v Speaker 1>I really Doe glad we had you on today because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I needed to hear this to be honest, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because we have been under a lot of pressure lately,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will tell you, like most of it has

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<v Speaker 1>been really positive, Like honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets your story out to more people.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, the comments I'm getting, the messages I'm getting, the

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<v Speaker 1>emails are like way more than ten X. I'm telling you, like,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a massive surge in like attention obviously because

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<v Speaker 1>of Sean or anything, right, let's be and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of other things, but like the the out pouring of

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<v Speaker 1>prayer requests, when can I SkyWatch? When are you gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be on the West Coast? When are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in Canada? When are you going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK? You know, and like it's just magnified by

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<v Speaker 1>fifty And then with that also the negativity is magnified too, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>which I mean it's like yes, but also more like

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<v Speaker 1>d ia be like, oh shit, try to harass them

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<v Speaker 1>even more. Right, But I have noticed a major uptick

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter of like insul harassment, petty stuff. So like

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<v Speaker 1>having you just like even hearing this out of your mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing like who you are and what you've been through,

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<v Speaker 1>what you've experienced separately and with us, and just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of our background together, I feel like wow, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to hear that true.

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<v Speaker 4>O lifts me up. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to hear that it's just the truth, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I I wish there was just a way to

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<v Speaker 2>make because your dad's only one person, and I wish

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<v Speaker 2>there was a way that this could be more on

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<v Speaker 2>we could people could witness what I witnessed. I really

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<v Speaker 2>wish that because it definitely changed my outlooks as and

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<v Speaker 2>I always like whenever shit gets hard, as like remember

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<v Speaker 2>the orbs. That's like our hatch phrase at the house,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know how you just get back into the

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<v Speaker 2>day to day, like you're scrolling on your phone and

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<v Speaker 2>you're just like in the shit again and you're just

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<v Speaker 2>going or you're like depressed, and Zaz is like, remember

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<v Speaker 2>what we saw, like please remember this, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>go whoa, yeah, you know. So it's just a it

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<v Speaker 2>was such a gift to have that experience. And the

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<v Speaker 2>internet's a really messy place. But you guys are taking

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<v Speaker 2>the high road.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen you guys not take the high road.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to admit I had my popcorn out when

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<v Speaker 2>you put that statement out about the Sean Ryan episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I have had my moments, for sure. I've definitely had

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<v Speaker 1>my moments.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not proud of it, but I feel But the

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<v Speaker 2>thing is, if people actually put themselves in your shoes,

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<v Speaker 2>just yours for this purpose of this example, what you

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<v Speaker 2>guys went through being told being basically your dad kicked

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<v Speaker 2>out of church, being like scapegoaded by your entire community.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically like enduring like a half of your life witch

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<v Speaker 2>hunt and then watching people call your dad a liar

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<v Speaker 2>when you've literally seen your dad go through hell and

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<v Speaker 2>change as a person and have all these absolutely like

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<v Speaker 2>miraculous things happen. It would make anyone, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>anyone would be handling it worse. You're handling it with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of grace, you know, And you guys don't

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<v Speaker 2>have like a whole comm's team or anything like. I

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<v Speaker 2>on people, and it's not I can't even That's why

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be perceived. Don't come for me. Please

425
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<v Speaker 2>where I'm.

426
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<v Speaker 4>Gonna tell you, guys, I don't want to be perceived.

427
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<v Speaker 1>You guys really appreciate this. Actually, there's one and I

428
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<v Speaker 1>mean this jokingly. I do not mean this seriously, but

429
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<v Speaker 1>there's one thing you do that makes me mad, and

430
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<v Speaker 1>it's I can't comment on your funny ass stories on

431
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<v Speaker 1>it because the genius of I'm telling the guys, That's

432
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<v Speaker 1>why I'm like addressing a third person. But the genius

433
00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:25.720
<v Speaker 1>of her channel is that she advertises like one through me.

434
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<v Speaker 1>You should follow her if you haven't yet. Like her

435
00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:29.920
<v Speaker 1>memes are next level.

436
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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I'm proud of my meme curation game.

437
00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:33.240
<v Speaker 1>They're really funny.

438
00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:35.640
<v Speaker 2>It's been a passion of mine for a long time,

439
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<v Speaker 2>for many a year, and then one day I thought,

440
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<v Speaker 2>why the why the fuck am I not just doing

441
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<v Speaker 2>this on on my page to promote my podcast. And

442
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<v Speaker 2>then some people will say I'm a thief that I

443
00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:49.480
<v Speaker 2>steal memes. But listen, there's a whole other conversation your curator. Yeah,

444
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<v Speaker 2>people saying.

445
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<v Speaker 5>Listen, they don't want me to come for them.

446
00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:56.279
<v Speaker 2>When people, when meme artists come for me and send

447
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<v Speaker 2>me a whole ass email with their one in precious

448
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<v Speaker 2>lives to tell me, oh yeah, and then I'm going

449
00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:04.119
<v Speaker 2>to copyright strike you. I'm like the permission of the

450
00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:06.720
<v Speaker 2>woman that's in the picture that you screenshot from Pinterest

451
00:23:06.759 --> 00:23:09.200
<v Speaker 2>and then the words that you rejimbled around and then

452
00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:12.279
<v Speaker 2>screenshot on your phone and typed over. Please go write

453
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<v Speaker 2>a book or something.

454
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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a soul a live that could

455
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<v Speaker 1>survive Molly coming after you. No, you, we are very

456
00:23:19.000 --> 00:23:20.160
<v Speaker 1>lucky that you are on.

457
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<v Speaker 3>Me and Casey cackle, just like sharing the memes. Yeah yeah,

458
00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:30.119
<v Speaker 3>we've both followed.

459
00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:35.359
<v Speaker 2>For that's fantastic. It's the Internet. The Internet is a collective, right,

460
00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:38.559
<v Speaker 2>We're all screenshott and changing doing stuff. So just it's

461
00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:40.920
<v Speaker 2>not that deep, you know, and go pick up a

462
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<v Speaker 2>paintbrush or even make your own a I RT. But

463
00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:46.640
<v Speaker 2>don't screenshot something on Pinterest and write a couple of

464
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<v Speaker 2>tailor swift lyrics and say that you're an artist.

465
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<v Speaker 1>Make it just the just man, I want some tea.

466
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<v Speaker 4>I should have made some damn tea.

467
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<v Speaker 2>You should have I made.

468
00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I know I wish I drink tea before, but I

469
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:05.240
<v Speaker 1>wish I had it right now?

470
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<v Speaker 2>What can I say? What can I say? It was?

471
00:24:07.880 --> 00:24:11.839
<v Speaker 2>I really did consider put because I get to relax

472
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<v Speaker 2>my baby sleeping. I said, should I put some red

473
00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.599
<v Speaker 2>wine in my coffee? But I didn't, Guys, I didn't.

474
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I made. I considered it, but I thought, you know

475
00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:22.119
<v Speaker 2>how much you know how I am. Now I'm a lightweight.

476
00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I have one glass of red wine and we're off.

477
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<v Speaker 1>It's over. But that's something that I understand why you

478
00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>do it because you don't want to be easily accessible.

479
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:34.880
<v Speaker 1>But like, there are so many memes you post where

480
00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:39.079
<v Speaker 1>I am going. I'm going through the action to like

481
00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:42.720
<v Speaker 1>type like hilarious response and there's no bar and.

482
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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, no, I need to turn them back on.

483
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<v Speaker 2>You want to know why I did it, It's because

484
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:51.559
<v Speaker 2>I will just be in my d MS all day,

485
00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:53.839
<v Speaker 2>laughing with my friends about memes like I will be

486
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:57.279
<v Speaker 2>doing that, So I basically do it to own myself in.

487
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me and Nick or even me and Alex, depending

488
00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:03.079
<v Speaker 1>on like the thing we come up, we'll be like that.

489
00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we're like for we'll just be laughing about a

490
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<v Speaker 1>particular TikTok or particular something.

491
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<v Speaker 3>But man, I don't think the world could handle the

492
00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:12.440
<v Speaker 3>type of ship that we send to each other.

493
00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 4>I really don't think they could handle, like.

494
00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Knowing totally unhinged, like this unfilter friendship. Well when no

495
00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:23.000
<v Speaker 2>one for as long as you guys have been friends,

496
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:24.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like, those are the that stay in the vault.

497
00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no fear, those are the things the vault.

498
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<v Speaker 3>Oh, my Ryan and I have vines from back in

499
00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:35.519
<v Speaker 3>the day that we made together.

500
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:36.519
<v Speaker 1>We still reference.

501
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:38.079
<v Speaker 4>We still reference with them.

502
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<v Speaker 1>No, no, just old things.

503
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:43.160
<v Speaker 2>So sad.

504
00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:46.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, Yeah, it's it's a long storied friendship, and

505
00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:49.079
<v Speaker 3>and it gets more and more unhinged as the years

506
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:49.559
<v Speaker 3>go by, you.

507
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<v Speaker 1>Know, and I'm proud of that, and I'm happy with

508
00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:53.440
<v Speaker 1>that as it should be. When we were in high school,

509
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:57.680
<v Speaker 1>we would make YouTube videos together. And the funny thing

510
00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:00.880
<v Speaker 1>is there are nowhere to be found. Glad we're talking

511
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>about they're like literally gone, Like there's.

512
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:04.599
<v Speaker 5>What did you guys do?

513
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Like skits?

514
00:26:05.839 --> 00:26:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like dude, we thought we were so funny, but

515
00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:10.519
<v Speaker 1>it was like two thousand and eight.

516
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:13.119
<v Speaker 5>Was how old were you guys in two thousand and eight?

517
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<v Speaker 1>Just out of curiosity, probably like fourteen or fifteen?

518
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so like you guys, I'm not that much

519
00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:22.319
<v Speaker 2>older than you guys, I was eighteen.

520
00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:25.079
<v Speaker 4>No, I'm thirty Ryan, I'm thirty one.

521
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

522
00:26:26.680 --> 00:26:30.519
<v Speaker 2>Two thousand and eight a year that the economy crashed

523
00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:32.319
<v Speaker 2>and you guys were dancing on YouTube.

524
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, we didn't know what the.

525
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Documentary came out about us.

526
00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:37.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh that was that year.

527
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Actually I think it was more like twenty ten

528
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:40.519
<v Speaker 1>we were making YouTube videos.

529
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<v Speaker 4>I want to know.

530
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:43.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I was a junior in high.

531
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<v Speaker 4>School, so I'm at Casey in twenty ten. That couldn't

532
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:46.440
<v Speaker 4>have been.

533
00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but there's two school years in twenty ten, right.

534
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're right, Yeah, maybe it was.

535
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:52.799
<v Speaker 1>It was like for me it was junior year.

536
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<v Speaker 3>The point is, I'm so glad that no one will

537
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:58.279
<v Speaker 3>ever see those videos.

538
00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:01.200
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they were pretty bad first Never the reason

539
00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:04.759
<v Speaker 1>I bring it up. There was one in particular that

540
00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:07.799
<v Speaker 1>we had made and like I've talked about it on

541
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the show. This is not new, but uh, a girl

542
00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:16.200
<v Speaker 1>had dumped me. But I was like happy about it.

543
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Were happy?

544
00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah those Yeah, like we made a video about it,

545
00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and it started spreading around the schools. Mean, no it

546
00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't it wasn't mean it it was anonymous, only a

547
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>small together. Yeah no, no, it wasn't like that wouldn't.

548
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:38.240
<v Speaker 3>Actually in the skit you were sad, Yeah, of course

549
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 3>in the skit it wasn't even like.

550
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't say any names or anything. It was

551
00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>like they didn't know. Yeah, so dumb, but it was.

552
00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:47.839
<v Speaker 1>It was so stupid. But like the ridiculous part is

553
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:49.359
<v Speaker 1>like people around the school will be walking up to

554
00:27:49.440 --> 00:27:51.319
<v Speaker 1>us and like quoting and stuff, and we're like, what

555
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 1>is happening?

556
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:56.319
<v Speaker 2>Happened? Guys were basically early viral meme star it had.

557
00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Like three hundred views or something like that. Happen like,

558
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, a third of the school, you know. Anyway,

559
00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:06.160
<v Speaker 1>enough about that, So that was a good segue.

560
00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:09.039
<v Speaker 2>I like that Lore and Ryan.

561
00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:12.839
<v Speaker 1>Lore inspired by your memes. So I get it.

562
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:17.039
<v Speaker 2>You guys have a couple name like a lion. Oh no,

563
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:20.359
<v Speaker 2>it would be no, it would be uh nick, rick,

564
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:24.440
<v Speaker 2>rick rick Rick.

565
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:26.079
<v Speaker 1>Couple names.

566
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:28.559
<v Speaker 4>That's it. We've never had a couple of names before.

567
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:31.160
<v Speaker 1>And you just know it's definitely.

568
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 5>To that discord. Everybody start calling them rick.

569
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.519
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, oh my god.

570
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:37.079
<v Speaker 4>No.

571
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Alex is pointing at us like we're going to suffer.

572
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Ricky, Ricky.

573
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>We used to call people ricky. Yeah, we actually did.

574
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:46.559
<v Speaker 1>Used to call people ricky like it was an inside joke.

575
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>It was asset you are.

576
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.599
<v Speaker 1>That's all the equipment behind her.

577
00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm remote viewing your your childhood right now.

578
00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:00.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, she's watching the videos.

579
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.319
<v Speaker 2>I said, never say never. I'm in that way back machine.

580
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm sending you an animal right now? What

581
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:07.599
<v Speaker 1>does it go?

582
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Koala?

583
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Dang, you were supposed to say done.

584
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:10.839
<v Speaker 4>I knew you were thinking.

585
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, guys, mk Ultra really scrambled. I'm not as good

586
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:16.799
<v Speaker 2>as I understand.

587
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>No, but that's funny you say rick, because we really did.

588
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 1>It was like not a mean insult, but it was

589
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:21.400
<v Speaker 1>an inside joke, like.

590
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:23.839
<v Speaker 4>It's like a dork. It's like a dork.

591
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.000
<v Speaker 2>You guys had like your mean girls like fetch word.

592
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:30.039
<v Speaker 2>You just mean that's so great?

593
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:31.039
<v Speaker 4>Were we mean girls?

594
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:32.960
<v Speaker 5>No? No, but I meant, like you know, how we did.

595
00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:35.839
<v Speaker 2>That's another thing we do in junior high high school,

596
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:39.960
<v Speaker 2>like make our little inside joke words. You know, yeah,

597
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:40.599
<v Speaker 2>good times.

598
00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:44.599
<v Speaker 1>I meant to bring this up earlier, but you were

599
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:50.759
<v Speaker 1>on one and I did not want to. Uh no.

600
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's like you know when a bull is

601
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>like you know, it's it's.

602
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:58.440
<v Speaker 4>All he can be careful. Think about what you're.

603
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:00.559
<v Speaker 5>Saying as a massive compliment.

604
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's a compliment. You you were on one and

605
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.519
<v Speaker 1>you were spending some game to the truth. And I've

606
00:30:07.160 --> 00:30:10.319
<v Speaker 1>I found your series that you were referring to on

607
00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 1>your podcast, and I want to very heavily I want

608
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to say that, like I have listened to this how

609
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>many parts is it too? I have completed the first

610
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>part and I have like.

611
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>I can't co sign part two.

612
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:27.079
<v Speaker 1>I will no, no, no, no, I'm just being honest.

613
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I have personally heard the first part. I have taken

614
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>a break because I've been listening to the Telepathy tapes.

615
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm a very because we make our own content and

616
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:38.359
<v Speaker 1>we're very busy people. I don't just like the podcast

617
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 1>all day. I do, and I'm there's certain times that

618
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I do. And right now I've been consumed by the

619
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Telepathy tapes. And then when I finish that, I'm gonna

620
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.039
<v Speaker 1>go back to your part two because it's brilliant stuff.

621
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's called this episode isn't about UFOs Dash, It's

622
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:57.599
<v Speaker 1>about you. Part one on back to the Borderline, please

623
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:03.279
<v Speaker 1>from the border from the borderline.

624
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>That we don't want to go back there.

625
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, we don't yes back from the Borderline. This

626
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.279
<v Speaker 1>is Molly's show. Like I said, I have heard this.

627
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:11.599
<v Speaker 1>It is kind of like about us, but also it's

628
00:31:11.640 --> 00:31:13.799
<v Speaker 1>deeper than that, and it's bigger than that, and it's

629
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:16.319
<v Speaker 1>like all encompassing of the UFO subject and it is

630
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>very brilliant. Bravo. I just didn't want to interrupt you

631
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:21.519
<v Speaker 1>earlier for the bog on that because.

632
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you. I worked really hard on that episode.

633
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:27.359
<v Speaker 1>I know episode one is like how many hours?

634
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:28.559
<v Speaker 2>It's long.

635
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then you have like a whole other part.

636
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 1>See the picture here, it's kind of like a like a.

637
00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh made that with a really yeah? So made that

638
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 2>was so talented.

639
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's the ship. Yeah, the ship he is.

640
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<v Speaker 5>By the way, he told me to tell you guys, hi,

641
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:45.680
<v Speaker 5>I was supposed to do.

642
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Please tell him hi, hey, and uh, please tell him

643
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.920
<v Speaker 3>that we are we are working our hardest on twice Born.

644
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:55.480
<v Speaker 2>And he's wanting to get on that.

645
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 4>I text him.

646
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.559
<v Speaker 3>I text him like a month or two ago and

647
00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:01.240
<v Speaker 3>was like, bro it, it's been such a long.

648
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Time, and he said that too. He was like, last year.

649
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:05.559
<v Speaker 1>Last year was insane.

650
00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:06.200
<v Speaker 4>It's too much.

651
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:11.039
<v Speaker 1>We were barely floating above water last year. For various reasons.

652
00:32:11.079 --> 00:32:12.519
<v Speaker 1>I bought a house, which, by the way, I'm sure

653
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 1>you noticed her studio is different.

654
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:14.960
<v Speaker 2>It looks great, Nick.

655
00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>It was just a lot of reasons. Last year was

656
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>so insane. Twice Twice Bourne was on I know, right,

657
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I was. What you're learned about me is I'm kind

658
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 1>of like ADHD dyslexic, where I'm already thinking five words

659
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 1>ahead and then I like pull it. That's why so

660
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to say twice Bourne is on the

661
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>back burner, and it came out twice burned.

662
00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, burn is on the back burner.

663
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>They are fine, Yeah, that's right, right, But anyway.

664
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.319
<v Speaker 2>It's hard you have to give. And also I think

665
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:46.039
<v Speaker 2>there's something to be said about really waiting when you

666
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:48.119
<v Speaker 2>have something creative to say, when you guys have like

667
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 2>a real an urge, it will come happening, you know.

668
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, exactly. So I think that people like in

669
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>the music industry, they are like just churning music out

670
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.880
<v Speaker 2>because they have to, and I think we're missing Yeah,

671
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 2>they and they again they have to because they're signed

672
00:33:04.240 --> 00:33:06.799
<v Speaker 2>to record labels and they're literally like in creative chains.

673
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.559
<v Speaker 2>But when you can just do it, you know, for

674
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:12.359
<v Speaker 2>the love of it, that's what it's all about.

675
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like we could have forced it and like like

676
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:18.079
<v Speaker 3>really you know, force something, but every time we talk

677
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.640
<v Speaker 3>about it or or work on it or whatever, it's

678
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.359
<v Speaker 3>always very like no pressure. We're not putting pressure on

679
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:27.640
<v Speaker 3>this ship, because that's when ship gets nasty and bad

680
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:31.079
<v Speaker 3>and whatever. So it's very much just we leave space

681
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:33.000
<v Speaker 3>for it. We're holding we're holding.

682
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:33.359
<v Speaker 4>Space for it.

683
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:38.279
<v Speaker 2>You're creating a safe we're holding we're twice born exactly.

684
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:40.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we allowreat.

685
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:41.200
<v Speaker 5>Trauma informed of view.

686
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:46.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look you're giving is giving like a therapist like yeah, yeah.

687
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:49.119
<v Speaker 4>We use our tools. We have our tools are are

688
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:51.519
<v Speaker 4>our emotional tools? Yeah?

689
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 2>I love that.

690
00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, how about another shot? I was being.

691
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Fired?

692
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was being the contractor guy that doesn't want

693
00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 1>to go deep or whatever shots by So speaking of deep,

694
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.679
<v Speaker 1>when we recorded last time, and I apologize if I

695
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:11.840
<v Speaker 1>don't remember, because it's been a year and a half,

696
00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.559
<v Speaker 1>did you come to our house first and then we

697
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>record or was it the other way around?

698
00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:18.880
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm pretty sure that we recorded after because you

699
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:20.840
<v Speaker 2>said it was November, wasn't it? So we would have

700
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.280
<v Speaker 2>been at your house in September? Because that's okay, So

701
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:24.760
<v Speaker 2>it was a couple months after.

702
00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 1>Okay, But granted that was two years ago now. So

703
00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot in all of our lives has changed,

704
00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:32.679
<v Speaker 1>a lot in the world has changed. So what I

705
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 1>think would be really cool is to talk about some

706
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:39.079
<v Speaker 1>of the change that has unfolded in your life since

707
00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>integrating this.

708
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Experience, you know, absolutely. I think what has helped me

709
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:48.440
<v Speaker 2>is because when I even messaged you initially before, when

710
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:50.960
<v Speaker 2>I listened to Duncan Trussel and who, by the way,

711
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 2>is still one of my favorite people that has interviewed you.

712
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:54.360
<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

713
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:58.119
<v Speaker 2>I think that he's a fantastic interviewer because he's a mystic.

714
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.159
<v Speaker 2>He's a real mystic for sure, one hundred percent, and

715
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:03.639
<v Speaker 2>so I think that he can. I would love to

716
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:04.719
<v Speaker 2>hear him talk to your dad.

717
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I texted him a few weeks ago about that, and

718
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I've just pretty much resigned to like, and it's not

719
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:13.320
<v Speaker 1>just me either, everybody that I have ever met that

720
00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.119
<v Speaker 1>have had contact with him, Like it's been like three

721
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:18.599
<v Speaker 1>different people in the last month have been like, dude,

722
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't get him to respond anymore like me either.

723
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.039
<v Speaker 1>I think he's just I don't know. So I'm just

724
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:23.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of like.

725
00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Having a little like creative like sometimes people are recorded

726
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:30.440
<v Speaker 2>way ahead of schedule and they're like having like a

727
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:31.960
<v Speaker 2>little bit of a hiatus or something.

728
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Speaker 5>You never know, he might be taking something.

729
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I can't get a hold of him anymore.

730
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.519
<v Speaker 1>And that's okay. It's no hard feelings there. I Duncan.

731
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:41.159
<v Speaker 1>I did text him being like, I would love to

732
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:42.599
<v Speaker 1>hook you up with my dad to get dad on

733
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>the show. But that's Okay, his loss. If that doesn't happen, No, it.

734
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Would be a fantastic conversation. I would love to hear it.

735
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:54.440
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I was already way down the rabbit

736
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:57.360
<v Speaker 2>hole before then with all of this stuff and then

737
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:02.159
<v Speaker 2>experiencing it obviously on your podcast just two months after that,

738
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:07.480
<v Speaker 2>so I hadn't had exposure to the UFO like discourse space,

739
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:11.119
<v Speaker 2>like I was outside of that, and so ever since then,

740
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I've obviously been keeping up with uap ufo what do

741
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.320
<v Speaker 2>they call it ufo Twitter? Even though it's not twitter

742
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:19.719
<v Speaker 2>ufo X. I can't call it x. It just doesn't

743
00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:22.039
<v Speaker 2>flow off the tongue. What do you say when you tweet?

744
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Like is it?

745
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:23.039
<v Speaker 5>Is it a zeit?

746
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Now? That is like skeet, And then I'm like, ah,

747
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, I can't call it twitter because then I'm like,

748
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I still say tweet. Elon Musk really got himself into

749
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:43.639
<v Speaker 2>a pickle with that rebrand.

750
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:44.440
<v Speaker 5>It just doesn't flow.

751
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is a little weird.

752
00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:50.239
<v Speaker 2>But I digress, which is my professional specialty, as you

753
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 2>can tell by this episode. But I've been in that

754
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 2>world now since having that experience, and we already dipped

755
00:36:56.639 --> 00:37:00.320
<v Speaker 2>our toes into how I feel because I feel like hurt.

756
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:00.599
<v Speaker 1>Now.

757
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:02.679
<v Speaker 5>Well, gosh, I don't know.

758
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:04.719
<v Speaker 2>All I know is that I spend all of my

759
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:09.880
<v Speaker 2>waking time semi autistically reading about these things because I

760
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.920
<v Speaker 2>actually deeply am passionate about this, right, And when I

761
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 2>say that, I mean I'm dead serious. If hyper fixation

762
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:19.880
<v Speaker 2>on a subject, I probably could get some kind of

763
00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.280
<v Speaker 2>autism diagnosis. But y'all know how I feel about that,

764
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:26.519
<v Speaker 2>like just over diagnosing. But one hundred percent, I'm down

765
00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 2>the rabbit hole on this stuff, reading it all the time.

766
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.679
<v Speaker 2>And so when I listen to these interviews, it's fascinating,

767
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:35.159
<v Speaker 2>fascinating reading about all this stuff and then watching these

768
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:39.000
<v Speaker 2>people talk and hearing things that have parallels to certain stuff.

769
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I messaged you the other day, Ryan, when I

770
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:44.079
<v Speaker 2>was listening to one of these big disclosure guys that's

771
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.480
<v Speaker 2>come out, and I went, Wow, that sounds like a

772
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:48.800
<v Speaker 2>mystery school initiation rights.

773
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, and.

774
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Can I speak to it a bit because I feel

775
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:56.199
<v Speaker 2>like it's interesting? Yeah, So obviously, like everyone and their dog,

776
00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I was watching these Jake Barber interviews and I found

777
00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:02.840
<v Speaker 2>them really interesting, and some of the more interesting ones

778
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:05.000
<v Speaker 2>that have come forward, I really found him interesting to

779
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>listen to. But there was one and I can't remember

780
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 2>if it was when he was on Jesse Michael's show

781
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.760
<v Speaker 2>or with it, because there were so many hours of

782
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:16.760
<v Speaker 2>him talking. But I listened to one part and he's

783
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:20.239
<v Speaker 2>talking about how these psionic assets, which we could go

784
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:23.880
<v Speaker 2>it sounds like they are procured in not an ethical

785
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:26.400
<v Speaker 2>way and not treated very ethically, and it sounds.

786
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:27.159
<v Speaker 5>Really dark and horrible.

787
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:33.800
<v Speaker 2>But that aside, they found out that putting these psionic

788
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:37.800
<v Speaker 2>assets into a fight or flight state, like they have

789
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:41.920
<v Speaker 2>to activate their nervous system, make them afraid. It reminded

790
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:45.000
<v Speaker 2>me of you know the elos Yeah, yeah, but the

791
00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Elosinian mysteries or any kind of like. And I told

792
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Ryan the show, the movie, the show, I sound like

793
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 2>a boomer that show, the movie The Northman where they

794
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, they put him through an initiation and they

795
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.239
<v Speaker 2>take him down. They have him crawling on the ground

796
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 2>like a wolf, and then he has to say he

797
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:08.519
<v Speaker 2>agrees to go through this. Back then they would say

798
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.199
<v Speaker 2>children can't consent to this, right, you know, but this

799
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:13.400
<v Speaker 2>is what they did. And the kid said, yes, I'm

800
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.599
<v Speaker 2>ready to be a man, right, And he's crawling around

801
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:16.639
<v Speaker 2>up and then you learned.

802
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:17.280
<v Speaker 5>What is that saying?

803
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like you have to master your animal instincts and

804
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:22.360
<v Speaker 2>then willingly say I want to be a man.

805
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:23.239
<v Speaker 5>So what does that mean?

806
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:25.800
<v Speaker 2>A man is like brave, a man is not afraid, right,

807
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:28.440
<v Speaker 2>And so they make the kid walk crawl through a

808
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.159
<v Speaker 2>tube and that's like a womb right, being born into

809
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:37.079
<v Speaker 2>the center of this like initiator experience. So they did

810
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.800
<v Speaker 2>that back then, you know what I mean. They did

811
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:43.400
<v Speaker 2>that to make these people have these mystical experiences. And

812
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.599
<v Speaker 2>it's like what I said before, it's like we've stripped

813
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.719
<v Speaker 2>the heart and soul out of it. But they're like, oh, yeah,

814
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:52.719
<v Speaker 2>we can activate the nervous system. It's like, yeah, you're

815
00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:56.599
<v Speaker 2>doing like a horrible butchered version of an initiation, right.

816
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.280
<v Speaker 2>And so, but the thing is is, if you had

817
00:40:01.360 --> 00:40:08.199
<v Speaker 2>someone who actually specialized in something like this questioning Jake Barber,

818
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:10.840
<v Speaker 2>it would be a very different conversation and they may

819
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.280
<v Speaker 2>be able to go there with him. And I find

820
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:16.280
<v Speaker 2>myself watching these interviews and I'm like, man, I wish

821
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I could pick someone else to interview this this person

822
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.960
<v Speaker 2>and like go there, like down these rabbit holes, because

823
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:26.559
<v Speaker 2>it's frustrating reading all the mystical literature and going down

824
00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 2>these avenues and then watching how we are just so

825
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:34.760
<v Speaker 2>like not going there when we're talking to these people,

826
00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:38.639
<v Speaker 2>so we're not getting that much information really, you know. Yeah,

827
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:42.199
<v Speaker 2>every gay they're like big breakthrough, big new breakthrough. I'm like,

828
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:43.199
<v Speaker 2>what's the breakthrough.

829
00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's the guy that has the story that's

830
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>like literally our story.

831
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:49.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh oh oh oh oh.

832
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 2>How he had the spiritual experience and he felt like

833
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:56.719
<v Speaker 2>he was going to cry. He said, it felt like

834
00:40:57.079 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 2>it felt like my mother, it felt like my daughter.

835
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.320
<v Speaker 2>He's experiencing what he's displaying. Yes, so like he really

836
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 2>and to his credit, you know, because again someone in

837
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.480
<v Speaker 2>his archetype, you know, that's pushing himself out there. And

838
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 2>I think also people just don't know what to do

839
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:20.519
<v Speaker 2>with that because the collective is so scrolling on their

840
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:23.639
<v Speaker 2>phones and just an NPC land. Not the people listening

841
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:28.000
<v Speaker 2>to this podcast, but the average everyday person is just

842
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:30.199
<v Speaker 2>like what I lived in the UK and don't come

843
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.159
<v Speaker 2>for me people in the UK, but you'll know this

844
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:33.440
<v Speaker 2>if you're there.

845
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:35.280
<v Speaker 5>They are also.

846
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Particularly agnostic in the United Kingdom, like at least in

847
00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:42.599
<v Speaker 2>London where I was. Yeah, it's not cool to think

848
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 2>about spirituality. Right, it's very it's it's just not and

849
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:49.119
<v Speaker 2>please let me know if I'm wrong. And that's changed

850
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:52.360
<v Speaker 2>people listeners. But I remember being there and people are

851
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:57.119
<v Speaker 2>the British stereotype actually is the English rather, it's very

852
00:41:57.280 --> 00:41:59.599
<v Speaker 2>very true of being very kind of buttoned up and

853
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:03.719
<v Speaker 2>like life or death another like you know, like they're

854
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 2>really uncomfortable with that stuff. And so it's interesting to

855
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.119
<v Speaker 2>watch the collective who's pretty much some kind of on

856
00:42:11.159 --> 00:42:14.000
<v Speaker 2>that that spectrum of just like I don't want to

857
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:16.039
<v Speaker 2>go there. And then there's the rest of us that

858
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:17.800
<v Speaker 2>are like swimming in this water all the time, and

859
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:19.519
<v Speaker 2>we're just going like can we get get to the

860
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.480
<v Speaker 2>better stuff? Not just this surface level stuff. But I

861
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.960
<v Speaker 2>guess to the average everyday person, these are like huge revelations.

862
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:30.320
<v Speaker 6>I suppose, yeah, wow, that I didn't even I mean,

863
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:32.920
<v Speaker 6>I don't know anything about the what you know that

864
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:36.079
<v Speaker 6>they think about over there, but like, I don't know,

865
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:38.559
<v Speaker 6>it seems like this is a global phenomenon at this point,

866
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:40.800
<v Speaker 6>is it not, like well now.

867
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Now it is, yeah, but it's if you think about it,

868
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:47.159
<v Speaker 2>just guys, five years ago, no one was talking about

869
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 2>this stuff.

870
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:49.400
<v Speaker 5>This has been on a hyper.

871
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Even three years ago. You know, yeah, it's it's really

872
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:55.159
<v Speaker 3>the past. I feel like it's the past, like year

873
00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:55.679
<v Speaker 3>and a half.

874
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:59.079
<v Speaker 1>It just like took off now, especially the past two months.

875
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:03.079
<v Speaker 1>We're never going back. Oh dude, the past few months January.

876
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Like the momentum is on a tan it is. It's

877
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:09.599
<v Speaker 3>it's honestly nuts. It's like every day I'm seeing new information,

878
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:12.760
<v Speaker 3>new UFO stories, stuff on the news and like like

879
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:16.000
<v Speaker 3>the drones, and it's every day it's something. It's ye

880
00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:17.719
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, who's putting their spin on it?

881
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Are people ready for the ontological shock? What? The one

882
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.880
<v Speaker 2>thing I really liked that Jake Barber said in his

883
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:28.360
<v Speaker 2>interview was he said it won't be ontological shock, it

884
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:32.079
<v Speaker 2>will be ontological relief, Like if we find this out,

885
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:36.280
<v Speaker 2>because he said everybody, well not everyone, but I think

886
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:38.679
<v Speaker 2>he did. He goes, everyone always has that feeling of

887
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:40.679
<v Speaker 2>like there's got to be something more you know to

888
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:44.199
<v Speaker 2>this life than just what we're told. And so he

889
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:47.800
<v Speaker 2>said that disclosure in the way that he if he

890
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:50.039
<v Speaker 2>could share what he knows and feels, like if he's

891
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.840
<v Speaker 2>talking about this beautiful spiritual realization he had and that

892
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.719
<v Speaker 2>beautiful feeling he said, it wouldn't be ontological shock, it

893
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.920
<v Speaker 2>would be ontological relief. And I I tend to agree

894
00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:02.440
<v Speaker 2>with that. You know, I think that if people actually

895
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:05.719
<v Speaker 2>realize that they could have these experiences on their own

896
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.280
<v Speaker 2>and really and they didn't approach it with fear, it

897
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:11.719
<v Speaker 2>would be But unfortunately that doesn't seem to be how

898
00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:16.639
<v Speaker 2>it's panning out because there's so many there's just so

899
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:21.400
<v Speaker 2>much confusion and uh information coming from all angles. Like

900
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.840
<v Speaker 2>if I can't keep up, if you guys can't keep up,

901
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:26.480
<v Speaker 2>imagine how the average person if they even dipped a

902
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:28.719
<v Speaker 2>toe into all of this, they'd be so confused.

903
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:29.880
<v Speaker 5>They're like, I don't even know.

904
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:34.199
<v Speaker 1>There's a big push from the dark side, so to speak,

905
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the negative agenda, the dark force that that are like

906
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:42.880
<v Speaker 1>putting out the lie. There's a really big push and

907
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:47.119
<v Speaker 1>the bull crap. Uh little tagline that they try to

908
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:49.760
<v Speaker 1>say is like don't trust in AGI, you can't trust

909
00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:53.199
<v Speaker 1>nhi or they'll use a Bible scripture.

910
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.159
<v Speaker 2>But we can trust you literally.

911
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, even can appear as an angel of life.

912
00:44:57.679 --> 00:44:58.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

913
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:00.400
<v Speaker 1>And the thing that my dad says that I think

914
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:03.840
<v Speaker 1>is really brilliant. It's like, look if something demonic and

915
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 1>evil is appearing when I am praying to God, then

916
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe we should all quit praying literally.

917
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:11.719
<v Speaker 2>You know. And it's just it's.

918
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Literally it's people online who have never had an experience

919
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're researching. They actually have zero credibility, zero.

920
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:25.639
<v Speaker 5>Experience, but researching in air.

921
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>They're researching because they're looking at tweets, they're watching the news.

922
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:34.280
<v Speaker 1>They have no leg to stand on, no background in this,

923
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:39.800
<v Speaker 1>no experience other than U cult like fascination for UFOs,

924
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and they have the nerve to go online and act

925
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.639
<v Speaker 1>like they know shit and have an opinion on you know,

926
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:49.639
<v Speaker 1>trusting NHI or not trusting Nhi.

927
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:51.239
<v Speaker 4>Well, how about you.

928
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Should not trust the people that are neuro linguistically programming

929
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:57.559
<v Speaker 1>you to use a new acronym every.

930
00:45:57.440 --> 00:45:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Six months precisely, you know.

931
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:01.760
<v Speaker 1>And it just made makes me stick, like be gone,

932
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:05.639
<v Speaker 1>like you have no room to say anything, you're not

933
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:10.199
<v Speaker 1>experiencing anything. Sorry, that's my unhumble moment. But it's like,

934
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, singing it all the time, be gone, you're yes,

935
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:16.199
<v Speaker 1>nobody to.

936
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Me, Well what do they say? Also, just don't speak

937
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:22.039
<v Speaker 2>about what you don't know, you know, So like that's it.

938
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:26.679
<v Speaker 2>If you haven't if you can't categorically deny it yourself,

939
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.599
<v Speaker 2>then you just say that you aren't you don't know.

940
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:31.719
<v Speaker 2>But it goes back to what Nick was saying. People

941
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.920
<v Speaker 2>are not comfortable with not knowing, and it just brings

942
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.039
<v Speaker 2>up another thing. And here I go punching and being

943
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:41.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of a bitch. But but it's nothing to I

944
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:44.000
<v Speaker 2>think everyone will agree that's listening. Is just sometimes I

945
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:48.400
<v Speaker 2>look at the the people that they don't even feel

946
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:50.760
<v Speaker 2>like people, right, because we're all dehumanizing ourselves by these

947
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:54.039
<v Speaker 2>online anonymous accounts. So God knows where it's all coming from.

948
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:56.920
<v Speaker 2>But when I look at the accounts replying to this,

949
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:01.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I just kind of watch stuff. The people

950
00:47:01.239 --> 00:47:04.840
<v Speaker 2>that actually feel like they have to add their two

951
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.360
<v Speaker 2>cents the peanut gallery on X posts. It's like red

952
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Coala Panda is X posts. That's I'm just going to say,

953
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:18.400
<v Speaker 2>that's a certain flavor of individual that that is probably

954
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:20.440
<v Speaker 2>not going to say shit if they actually see you

955
00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:23.679
<v Speaker 2>in person. They just get their rocks off by being

956
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:28.880
<v Speaker 2>mean on comments because they're deeply unhappy, and ironically they're

957
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.239
<v Speaker 2>the people that need this kind of message the most,

958
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:31.920
<v Speaker 2>you know.

959
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:38.320
<v Speaker 3>That's so that's so unbelievably true. They are they need

960
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:40.480
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of love and compassion, and like.

961
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:43.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe that's shadow projection, do you know, Like it's

962
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:47.480
<v Speaker 2>almost like they are they're laughing out against the thing

963
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 2>that they they need the most. And isn't that how

964
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:53.400
<v Speaker 2>we are all psychologically?

965
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:54.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

966
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:57.360
<v Speaker 3>And it is also the ego thing, because you said

967
00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.599
<v Speaker 3>that earlier as well. It's it's a we don't like

968
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:04.159
<v Speaker 3>to not know things, yes, and b we don't like

969
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:08.079
<v Speaker 3>to be perceived as not knowing things.

970
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Why And that's the question why, because all the

971
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.519
<v Speaker 2>wisest people look at the cheshre cat. I'm not saying

972
00:48:14.559 --> 00:48:17.239
<v Speaker 2>the chess your cat's the wisest person. He's a fictional character.

973
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:20.519
<v Speaker 2>But you know, the wisest sage is he is an

974
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:23.559
<v Speaker 2>archetype of a wise sage. There are the people that say,

975
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:27.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know, right, that's like the

976
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:31.239
<v Speaker 2>wisest thing. That's why the gesters and medieval times were

977
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:35.039
<v Speaker 2>actually very fucking smart people. These weren't just idiots. They

978
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:38.280
<v Speaker 2>were a fool. They could say whatever the fuck they

979
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:40.840
<v Speaker 2>want to the king, and they actually oftentimes said what

980
00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:44.119
<v Speaker 2>they needed to hear. They didn't want to hear and

981
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:47.559
<v Speaker 2>so it's like that's a very that that trickster energy

982
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:49.000
<v Speaker 2>is actually very wise.

983
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:50.199
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, what do you know?

984
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Do you know?

985
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:52.320
<v Speaker 5>Think about it, ask yourself.

986
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:57.199
<v Speaker 2>It's very wise and at a sign of intelligence to

987
00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:58.440
<v Speaker 2>admit that you don't know.

988
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, I think everybody should, but especially people who

989
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:07.719
<v Speaker 3>haven't had experiences precisely and want to speak as though

990
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:11.280
<v Speaker 3>they have or speak on the subject of people.

991
00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:14.840
<v Speaker 4>Who have had experiences, and like, you.

992
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Know, and even if you don't believe them, what are

993
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:21.400
<v Speaker 2>you getting by being a horrible, mean asshole to strangers?

994
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:26.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why, it's been like close to twenty years now

995
00:49:26.599 --> 00:49:29.199
<v Speaker 1>that we've been having these experiences, these beings and like

996
00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:32.800
<v Speaker 1>proving that we communicate with them and all that, Like

997
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't even need to be stated. And can you

998
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:39.800
<v Speaker 1>imagine how much it's like a little pest that's just

999
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you ever just walk out on a hot summer day

1000
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:43.840
<v Speaker 1>and there's nats flying around your head and you're just

1001
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 1>like fucking beakne when I open my life.

1002
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:49.559
<v Speaker 2>We have so many mosquitoes out there, So yes, in Texas.

1003
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't know that really.

1004
00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:55.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, every one of our neighbors has a big

1005
00:49:55.199 --> 00:50:00.480
<v Speaker 2>ass standing water fountain. So it's like, but.

1006
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine how annoying it is? Like, you know,

1007
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:06.360
<v Speaker 1>we're I probably shouldn't even say this because then the

1008
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.920
<v Speaker 1>government assets are gonna dial that up now. But like

1009
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:11.880
<v Speaker 1>to turn on my phone and it's like, don't trust

1010
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:13.960
<v Speaker 1>n H. I don't trust the message. Don't trust You're

1011
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:15.920
<v Speaker 1>being deceived by demons. You're being deceived by you.

1012
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:21.679
<v Speaker 2>Are they mentioning you or are you going like.

1013
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Replying in my comments and stuff? You know, it's like, bro,

1014
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:27.039
<v Speaker 1>be gone, you know what I mean?

1015
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:27.679
<v Speaker 2>Have you do?

1016
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:28.119
<v Speaker 1>You say it?

1017
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Just say it?

1018
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:33.519
<v Speaker 1>Alex. Alex said something to say on Instagram from six

1019
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:37.360
<v Speaker 1>months ago, saying stay away from NHI or you'll get harmed.

1020
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, all right, fed, all right, fed, thanks for

1021
00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:45.199
<v Speaker 2>your input.

1022
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Barking when the government tells them to bart that's the

1023
00:50:49.280 --> 00:50:52.039
<v Speaker 1>same one. I'm telling you the truth.

1024
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:54.239
<v Speaker 4>The people that.

1025
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like, let's go.

1026
00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:58.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And it's just like it's annoying, bro, like I

1027
00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:02.079
<v Speaker 1>have to pretend to have to pretend, you know, Ryan

1028
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to be.

1029
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:06.599
<v Speaker 2>Fair, it's actually healthy to feel that like righteous anger.

1030
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:08.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, it doesn't mean that you have to come

1031
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.480
<v Speaker 2>for them, but to you deserve to be able to

1032
00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:14.719
<v Speaker 2>vent about that because again I ask anyone out there, imagine,

1033
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:18.559
<v Speaker 2>if you're getting tweet after tweet, message after message, you're

1034
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:18.960
<v Speaker 2>a liar.

1035
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:20.920
<v Speaker 5>You're a liar, you're crazy, your dad's.

1036
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:25.440
<v Speaker 2>As and also the degree of shit they say, Charlatan's grifters,

1037
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:28.440
<v Speaker 2>your dad is communicating with the devil. These are things

1038
00:51:28.480 --> 00:51:32.440
<v Speaker 2>when you know the beauty of what's behind the experience,

1039
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:35.679
<v Speaker 2>because again I experienced it myself. Imagine someone saying that

1040
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:38.159
<v Speaker 2>about your dad. You know who you don't have who

1041
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:41.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, but I'm speaking to the listeners, to the

1042
00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:45.239
<v Speaker 2>collective you out there, It's like, imagine, no, Ryan, of

1043
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:48.199
<v Speaker 2>course that's your fucking life every day, but it's like

1044
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:50.920
<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't be able to handle it. It's like the

1045
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:53.599
<v Speaker 2>one time when I I, I don't know if you

1046
00:51:53.639 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 2>guys know, like in a past life, I worked for

1047
00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:58.119
<v Speaker 2>at Louis Uton's pressed office, press office when I lived

1048
00:51:58.119 --> 00:51:58.559
<v Speaker 2>in London.

1049
00:51:58.880 --> 00:51:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that.

1050
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Actually, fun fact, yeah, I met Kanye West and again

1051
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:05.760
<v Speaker 2>he's persona on Grada. Now we're not going there, but

1052
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:09.440
<v Speaker 2>that was back when he was putting his Easy album

1053
00:52:09.480 --> 00:52:13.159
<v Speaker 2>out and Louis Baton put on his album release party,

1054
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:15.320
<v Speaker 2>and so I got to like walk pat by him.

1055
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:18.039
<v Speaker 2>He's so short, by the way, blessed. Really, I believe,

1056
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:20.840
<v Speaker 2>oh so tiny, so so tiny, much tinier than you

1057
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:25.599
<v Speaker 2>could ever imagine. So small. And yeah, sorry, Kanye, he's

1058
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 2>so small. I was like, damn, cause I'm like five

1059
00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.119
<v Speaker 2>seven and I was wearing heels and so I was like, oh,

1060
00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:33.840
<v Speaker 2>hi there, you know, but I was you there. But

1061
00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:36.559
<v Speaker 2>I was so scared because I was a big fan

1062
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:38.760
<v Speaker 2>of his at the time, like whatever. He is a

1063
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:41.400
<v Speaker 2>very creative musical person and so at the time it

1064
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:43.480
<v Speaker 2>was pretty cool to meet him. I was working the party,

1065
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:47.159
<v Speaker 2>like doing the door. I was the plub But anyway,

1066
00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:49.639
<v Speaker 2>I have a point here is that, like he was

1067
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:51.559
<v Speaker 2>standing over by the music thing and he has the

1068
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Easy album on his phone and it was the ox

1069
00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Chord days. So he's plugging it in to the thing

1070
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:03.239
<v Speaker 2>and I see his phone. When I say this man

1071
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:06.719
<v Speaker 2>had like four thousand on read texts. He had like

1072
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:10.320
<v Speaker 2>eight hundred thousand million emails his phone. I don't like

1073
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:12.599
<v Speaker 2>having notifications, so like it gave me a heart attack

1074
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.000
<v Speaker 2>looking at his phone. And I saw his phone one yeah,

1075
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:19.199
<v Speaker 2>like it just looked so insane, and I just went no,

1076
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:21.239
<v Speaker 2>wonder these people go nuts like.

1077
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I have eighty eight thousand unopened emails.

1078
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Right here, Ryan, That is a crime, look confirm? Yeah, no,

1079
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:29.000
<v Speaker 2>that actually gets.

1080
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:32.519
<v Speaker 3>Say the number eighty eight thousand, four hundred and twenty Ryan,

1081
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:33.800
<v Speaker 3>When are you going to take care of that?

1082
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:35.679
<v Speaker 2>Like? What the fuck? So what?

1083
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I have fifty three missed calls, forty two unopened text messages,

1084
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, and that that.

1085
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Gives me so much anxiety I have.

1086
00:53:44.239 --> 00:53:46.119
<v Speaker 3>Let's see, I have one hundred and ninety six on

1087
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:47.800
<v Speaker 3>read text messages.

1088
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:48.920
<v Speaker 5>You nick what?

1089
00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I have five right now and I'm sweating for me.

1090
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm not good.

1091
00:53:57.840 --> 00:53:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I wish it was five?

1092
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:03.199
<v Speaker 2>But is I have to because I oh god, no, guys,

1093
00:54:03.320 --> 00:54:05.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that. But what I'm saying is

1094
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:10.880
<v Speaker 2>that that's hard and like the weight of that Isn't

1095
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:14.480
<v Speaker 2>it weird how these little digital interactions can really weigh

1096
00:54:14.559 --> 00:54:16.800
<v Speaker 2>on you, and then you gaslight yourself saying, oh, it's

1097
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:18.599
<v Speaker 2>not a big deal with these I don't know these people,

1098
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:21.320
<v Speaker 2>but that affects you. And so yeah, it just definitely

1099
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:24.000
<v Speaker 2>does this upswelling of things I've told you when we

1100
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.199
<v Speaker 2>were talking the other days. I've been thinking about you, guys,

1101
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:29.320
<v Speaker 2>because and then Jen, I'm sure, like, what's that like

1102
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:32.039
<v Speaker 2>to have your partner you're you're trying to lift them

1103
00:54:32.119 --> 00:54:34.239
<v Speaker 2>up and support them through these moments and it's just

1104
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:37.719
<v Speaker 2>their families getting barraged by hate and just it affects

1105
00:54:37.719 --> 00:54:38.920
<v Speaker 2>everybody in your orbit.

1106
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:40.760
<v Speaker 5>And I think people don't think about that.

1107
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I would. I don't want to like

1108
00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:46.320
<v Speaker 1>characterize it as just being barraged by hate, because like

1109
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:49.280
<v Speaker 1>rest assured, it's, oh, there's lots of way, way more.

1110
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:52.719
<v Speaker 1>It's all, it's always way more, for sure, online, you know,

1111
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:54.920
<v Speaker 1>online for sure.

1112
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I think I meant just the most the most recent upswelling,

1113
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:00.400
<v Speaker 2>because I feel for a while it was just all love,

1114
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:04.760
<v Speaker 2>like with the occasional weird hate which is creators.

1115
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:07.440
<v Speaker 1>And it honestly kind of still is like that, at

1116
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:09.679
<v Speaker 1>least as far as like comments are concerned. I have noticed,

1117
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:12.639
<v Speaker 1>like on X particularly, that's where the FEDS and the

1118
00:55:12.719 --> 00:55:14.639
<v Speaker 1>d i A really like to come out to play.

1119
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:16.280
<v Speaker 2>And they like, that's what I'm talking about.

1120
00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's it's really a hellscape over there. And

1121
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:22.840
<v Speaker 1>like the the activity is unusually high from the uh,

1122
00:55:22.880 --> 00:55:27.559
<v Speaker 1>the very obvious targeting accounts. I get the occasional ones

1123
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.800
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram now too, which is really weird. But no,

1124
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:33.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's still way more positive. It's just

1125
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:36.760
<v Speaker 1>like I think the increased interaction in general is like,

1126
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you know what I.

1127
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Mean, it's it's stressful.

1128
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:43.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if it's the it's not even

1129
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:45.719
<v Speaker 1>the it's.

1130
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:48.360
<v Speaker 5>It's almost like energetically, yeah, energetically.

1131
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like that. Yeah.

1132
00:55:49.880 --> 00:55:52.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you feel the energy of it, right, because you

1133
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:55.920
<v Speaker 2>feel it. You see the subject lines, you see the

1134
00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:58.000
<v Speaker 2>beginning of the message, you see and so you're like,

1135
00:55:58.039 --> 00:55:59.320
<v Speaker 2>oh god, oh god, I know that.

1136
00:55:59.360 --> 00:55:59.960
<v Speaker 5>I you know what I mean.

1137
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:03.039
<v Speaker 2>It just it energetically and it's not stress it's just

1138
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:05.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of going. You're like, it's almost creating like to

1139
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:07.079
<v Speaker 2>do lists for you in the back of your mind

1140
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:07.760
<v Speaker 2>and it gives you.

1141
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Uh, subconscious Yeah.

1142
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's like being assaulted with with digital communications.

1143
00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I don't mean.

1144
00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:18.920
<v Speaker 2>And it's not it's no shade to the people that

1145
00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:20.519
<v Speaker 2>are reaching out to you either. It's just the day,

1146
00:56:20.519 --> 00:56:23.800
<v Speaker 2>our day and age like sometimes like my best friends,

1147
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:25.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's the same with you, like, right, you know

1148
00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:28.480
<v Speaker 2>that if I message you or if you message me,

1149
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:30.119
<v Speaker 2>if we don't get back for a few days. Me

1150
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:31.840
<v Speaker 2>and you are just like that's just the way it is,

1151
00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:34.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I think like sending a message now

1152
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:36.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like the Pony Express. Whenever you get back to me,

1153
00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:38.519
<v Speaker 2>it's all good. Like I don't mind. I actually kind

1154
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:40.440
<v Speaker 2>of like it. It's like waiting for a letter. It's cool.

1155
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:43.639
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to be instant. But I think some people,

1156
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:46.199
<v Speaker 2>as I know from like when I used to have

1157
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:48.679
<v Speaker 2>my DMS on and listeners would message me like, damn,

1158
00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:52.480
<v Speaker 2>people really think you're out here like able to answer everything,

1159
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:54.079
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going I don't have the time in the

1160
00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:56.920
<v Speaker 2>day to barely take a shower because of my baby,

1161
00:56:56.960 --> 00:57:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm sorry your comment is not getting answered. I can't.

1162
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:02.079
<v Speaker 2>It's hard.

1163
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:03.559
<v Speaker 5>But anyway, that was a TI rate.

1164
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I love it. No, it's and you know, I'm really happy.

1165
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:11.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm really grateful. I'm grateful for the growth. But yeah,

1166
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:14.119
<v Speaker 1>so there are some days, like in the past few days,

1167
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>especially where I've been feeling like, oh my god, like

1168
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I have to have a cutoff, I have to have

1169
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:21.639
<v Speaker 1>a I have to have a boundary where it's like

1170
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:24.239
<v Speaker 1>eight pm. I'll tell you what. In the last like

1171
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:28.280
<v Speaker 1>three or four days especially, uh you did that. I

1172
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:31.159
<v Speaker 1>am like hardly even looking at my social media anymore.

1173
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:31.480
<v Speaker 4>I can't.

1174
00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:35.079
<v Speaker 1>I can't bear it. I honestly I cannot bear.

1175
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:37.119
<v Speaker 2>It super healthy. You have to. I have like a

1176
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I literally have you know how you can set up

1177
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:40.280
<v Speaker 2>focus modes on your iPhone?

1178
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:40.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1179
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:41.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah you can't.

1180
00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:45.119
<v Speaker 2>My mine is called Hermit and it has the icon

1181
00:57:45.159 --> 00:57:46.880
<v Speaker 2>of a scissor when I put it on to s

1182
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:49.719
<v Speaker 2>and I go in Hermit mode all the time, and

1183
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:51.760
<v Speaker 2>then the only messages that can show are like my

1184
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:54.239
<v Speaker 2>mom and my sister in zas. So, like you know

1185
00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:55.639
<v Speaker 2>how when you go to focus and it just can

1186
00:57:55.719 --> 00:57:57.480
<v Speaker 2>like delete and so because those are the people that

1187
00:57:57.519 --> 00:57:59.719
<v Speaker 2>I know that if there's an emergency I need that

1188
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:01.199
<v Speaker 2>actually be able.

1189
00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:05.480
<v Speaker 1>To call me. I just do that. Do not disturb

1190
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:06.519
<v Speaker 1>is that you.

1191
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Can set up specific you can modify it modes. Yeah,

1192
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:10.000
<v Speaker 2>you should set one.

1193
00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:15.360
<v Speaker 4>On focus is like do not disturb, like what like customize.

1194
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:17.639
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, I'd like Nick can call me, can call me?

1195
00:58:18.480 --> 00:58:22.679
<v Speaker 1>I know, yeah, yeah, it's n for sure.

1196
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:25.679
<v Speaker 2>It's really so whenever I just need like a moment

1197
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:27.960
<v Speaker 2>of like smooth brain time, like I just turn on

1198
00:58:28.039 --> 00:58:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Hermit mode and I'm like, uh, no, one knows me, like, yes,

1199
00:58:32.599 --> 00:58:35.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, And all my friends appreciate that because they

1200
00:58:35.880 --> 00:58:37.880
<v Speaker 2>they're like you, right, I know they need their time

1201
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:42.199
<v Speaker 2>to But yeah, being a creator, I think is something

1202
00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:44.519
<v Speaker 2>I remember early on when I started my podcast, I

1203
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:48.039
<v Speaker 2>was out there searching for resources of other creators writing

1204
00:58:48.079 --> 00:58:50.679
<v Speaker 2>about creative burnout of like that kind of thing, and

1205
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:53.480
<v Speaker 2>there's not much out there about it. So as creators,

1206
00:58:53.880 --> 00:58:56.519
<v Speaker 2>it's a very unique experience that we're living, especially when

1207
00:58:56.519 --> 00:58:58.840
<v Speaker 2>we share so vulnerably. A lot of people feel very

1208
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:01.039
<v Speaker 2>close to you because they listen to you all the time,

1209
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:03.880
<v Speaker 2>and then they don't know what it's like on your

1210
00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:06.320
<v Speaker 2>end where you're getting a lot of messages and all

1211
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I want is to be able to give everyone a

1212
00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:11.519
<v Speaker 2>very individual reply because they deserve it. I'm so honored,

1213
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:14.400
<v Speaker 2>But it's going like WHOA. As a creator, you don't

1214
00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:16.320
<v Speaker 2>know how to manage all of that because at the

1215
00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:17.760
<v Speaker 2>end of the day, you're also just one person.

1216
00:59:18.039 --> 00:59:20.639
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, it's it's it's interesting.

1217
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:22.199
<v Speaker 2>And then so you guys must get that on a

1218
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:25.039
<v Speaker 2>whole other level because even me, I get outreach, but

1219
00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:28.559
<v Speaker 2>probably nothing like what you and especially your dad is getting.

1220
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was on the phone with Dad today and

1221
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.320
<v Speaker 1>he told me that he like, on his book, he

1222
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:38.440
<v Speaker 1>has a book email and it's like on that account alone,

1223
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:42.159
<v Speaker 1>he has seventeen thousand unopened emails from people that that's like.

1224
00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Like want him to pray for them, just a various things, Yeah,

1225
00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:46.639
<v Speaker 2>various things.

1226
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:49.239
<v Speaker 1>And it's like it's insane, and it's you know, we

1227
00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:51.960
<v Speaker 1>really are just normal people. Like, yes, we don't we

1228
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:55.599
<v Speaker 1>don't have we don't have uh, you know, you know

1229
00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:57.679
<v Speaker 1>who I have? You know who I have? I have

1230
00:59:57.800 --> 00:59:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Nick and Alex.

1231
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well su and I have my wife.

1232
01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:03.320
<v Speaker 5>It sounds like a good crew to me.

1233
01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, like outside of the family,

1234
01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:08.440
<v Speaker 1>like this is what we have, yeah, and that as

1235
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:10.480
<v Speaker 1>a manager for his book, and like we don't have

1236
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:14.599
<v Speaker 1>some crew of like no, you know, all these fricking people.

1237
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:17.800
<v Speaker 2>But that's that's the future. That's the media of the future.

1238
01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:20.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're all the as you can see, mainstream

1239
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:24.960
<v Speaker 2>media is just like slow dying on the vine. It's

1240
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:27.280
<v Speaker 2>a pretty beautiful thing to see it. Quite frankly, I

1241
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:30.400
<v Speaker 2>enjoy it. It's good for us because we're podcasters. We're like,

1242
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:35.239
<v Speaker 2>thank you, We'll take that. I have a question for you, Ryan,

1243
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:39.400
<v Speaker 2>let me because I think also your listeners will appreciate

1244
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:43.199
<v Speaker 2>this question. Do you have like a favorite because it's

1245
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:46.000
<v Speaker 2>not a negative, I could, we're being positive. Polly's here

1246
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:49.079
<v Speaker 2>right now, So I'm asking, do you have a favorite

1247
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:53.480
<v Speaker 2>creator right now that talks about this stuff? Like do

1248
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:55.679
<v Speaker 2>you ever find yourself or a couple of them that

1249
01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:59.320
<v Speaker 2>you're like really liking right now about what stuff? Just

1250
01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:03.920
<v Speaker 2>this kind of stuff like in the uh, none of it?

1251
01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:07.039
<v Speaker 1>No, why not because most of it's bullshit?

1252
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:11.760
<v Speaker 2>But I will I will lightly challenge you as your friend.

1253
01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:15.639
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that maybe that is a very black

1254
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:16.480
<v Speaker 2>and white approach?

1255
01:01:17.119 --> 01:01:20.639
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and I'm happy with that. Yeah, I have nothing

1256
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to prove, like.

1257
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, some of them have an interesting like some

1258
01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:27.559
<v Speaker 2>of them are like I have an example of one

1259
01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:29.840
<v Speaker 2>of one of them that I absolutely love and I'm curious,

1260
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:32.360
<v Speaker 2>but I don't want to like James Baldoni, for example,

1261
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:35.320
<v Speaker 2>the guy who was engaging the phenomenon. Have you ever

1262
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:38.039
<v Speaker 2>seen his He has kind of a smallesh channel. Man,

1263
01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:40.559
<v Speaker 2>I love that guy. He seems like, Oh he's such

1264
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:41.800
<v Speaker 2>a sweet nugget.

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<v Speaker 1>No, well, I mean you just got to think about it,

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01:01:44.400 --> 01:01:47.840
<v Speaker 1>like when you've been experiencing something for your entire life,

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01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, almost twenty years. And I mean this very

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01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:52.519
<v Speaker 1>like respectfully, but you asked, right.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, yeah?

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01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Why why?

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01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:55.280
<v Speaker 4>Why?

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01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Like think about could you stomach sitting in your own time,

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01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:02.199
<v Speaker 1>like listening to other people talk theoretically about something you've

1274
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:04.840
<v Speaker 1>been seeing your whole life, Like why It's like I

1275
01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:07.079
<v Speaker 1>have nothing to gain, It'd be a waste of my time.

1276
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:10.920
<v Speaker 1>What to hear the head them discuss a headline about

1277
01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:13.199
<v Speaker 1>something that I could read in five seconds. I don't

1278
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:15.719
<v Speaker 1>need to hear their take on something that I've seen

1279
01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:19.239
<v Speaker 1>and they haven't. Let's be honest. Yeah, it's just I'm

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01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:20.320
<v Speaker 1>just being honest, like.

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01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:21.320
<v Speaker 5>That's and that's fair.

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01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I guess my my perspective is also that because that

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01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:27.039
<v Speaker 2>that makes sense truly, I I get that.

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01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:29.280
<v Speaker 5>But I guess what I'm wondering is is you.

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01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:33.079
<v Speaker 1>I liked your episode, That's what I mean. It's like yours.

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01:02:33.320 --> 01:02:35.400
<v Speaker 2>There we go. So what I'm saying is are there

1287
01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:38.840
<v Speaker 2>people out there like besides me that that you're going? Ah.

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01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:42.039
<v Speaker 2>I like how they're approaching this stuff, like the reason

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01:02:42.119 --> 01:02:45.199
<v Speaker 2>why I mentioned James Baldoni like that engaging the phenomenon.

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01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I just love how he again, he seems like another

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01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:52.280
<v Speaker 2>one of us, that is that is questioning it all

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01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:53.639
<v Speaker 2>and and going on.

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01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:57.280
<v Speaker 5>What does what does it mean?

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01:02:57.519 --> 01:03:00.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, really like taking a more mystical perspective about it,

1295
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:02.719
<v Speaker 2>and it's really and he is a very soft spoken person.

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01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:04.639
<v Speaker 2>I just I like his vibes. So I didn't know

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01:03:04.639 --> 01:03:05.880
<v Speaker 2>if you've ever watched any of his stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay about about Yeah, I mean, I've been in this

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01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:14.039
<v Speaker 1>game a long time. No, I know a lot of people.

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01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.440
<v Speaker 2>People I probably know them, I know, and I'm green

1301
01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:21.960
<v Speaker 2>and I've done that a few times. Yeah, Okay, to shakes,

1302
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:25.320
<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about you know, not all. Yeah, No, that's

1303
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:27.000
<v Speaker 2>that's true. That's true, and I know that to be

1304
01:03:27.079 --> 01:03:29.599
<v Speaker 2>the case. Hence why I've gotten just so I've just

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01:03:29.639 --> 01:03:32.199
<v Speaker 2>put my nose back into my my favorite books now

1306
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:33.639
<v Speaker 2>and like going down the path.

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01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:36.039
<v Speaker 1>Because let me make it very clear, I'm sorry. I

1308
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:38.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't mean to cut you off with you on the

1309
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:40.840
<v Speaker 1>subject that you you wound me up, on the subject

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01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:43.159
<v Speaker 1>that I and you set me free. So now it's

1311
01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:45.079
<v Speaker 1>like I have to I have to tell you this.

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01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Please most people, even if they appear to have small

1313
01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:52.559
<v Speaker 1>channels out there that are just like your guy talking

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01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:57.559
<v Speaker 1>about UFOs, UH probably government don't.

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01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, I'm okay, Well trust me time anymore. But

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01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:10.000
<v Speaker 2>I do watch Danny Jones sometimes just because it's fucking unhinged. Unhinged.

1317
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's got a great show.

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01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:16.039
<v Speaker 2>He's got a good show because he's just the people

1319
01:04:16.039 --> 01:04:17.920
<v Speaker 2>there are just it's all over the place. So I

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01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:19.920
<v Speaker 2>just I do enjoy watching that. Sometimes.

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01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:23.079
<v Speaker 1>You ever wonder how these like small UFO channels can

1322
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:28.199
<v Speaker 1>get all these high profile powerful uh CIA and pending

1323
01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:30.079
<v Speaker 1>on assets on their show and they all have the

1324
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:33.719
<v Speaker 1>same message that and they have the same little circles

1325
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:37.440
<v Speaker 1>of content creators, and they like spout the same bullshit.

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01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Damn it, Ryan, I mean you asked.

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01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.719
<v Speaker 5>I know you're right. I see that. Actually I see that.

1328
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:49.519
<v Speaker 2>My my toxic trait is that I I'm very trusting naturally,

1329
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:52.519
<v Speaker 2>and so I always just try to see the best.

1330
01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:55.320
<v Speaker 2>But I know that, like I'm not saying that you don't,

1331
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:58.320
<v Speaker 2>but you've seen too much basically, like you've you've seen

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01:04:58.360 --> 01:04:58.719
<v Speaker 2>it all.

1333
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:01.679
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean the CIA evaded my life when

1334
01:05:01.679 --> 01:05:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I was fourteen years old, So I just have like

1335
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:07.840
<v Speaker 1>a different perspective on a lot of these players, and

1336
01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that is another reason why I'm like, why would I

1337
01:05:09.960 --> 01:05:13.400
<v Speaker 1>waste my time listening to just other people talk about

1338
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:17.800
<v Speaker 1>a phenomenon they've never seen? Times are different, maybe they have, Yeah,

1339
01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:19.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just like and it's not even a

1340
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:22.920
<v Speaker 1>disrespect thing, it's a why waste my time?

1341
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:23.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1342
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that?

1343
01:05:24.440 --> 01:05:24.559
<v Speaker 2>Like?

1344
01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:27.519
<v Speaker 1>Uh, I can't think off the top of my head,

1345
01:05:27.639 --> 01:05:30.280
<v Speaker 1>like do you think that? Like you know, Emerald is

1346
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:33.599
<v Speaker 1>listening to the podcast about like, you know, people learning

1347
01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:37.840
<v Speaker 1>how to cook. Like, no, he's out there cooking, he's whoever, that's.

1348
01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:41.760
<v Speaker 2>A terrible emerald of nhim.

1349
01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:43.559
<v Speaker 4>I never heard that.

1350
01:05:43.800 --> 01:05:47.719
<v Speaker 1>What an icon random example that I could think of

1351
01:05:47.800 --> 01:05:50.159
<v Speaker 1>on the fly. But like yeah, like it's just again,

1352
01:05:50.199 --> 01:05:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I say this with respect, but like no that I can't.

1353
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't stomach like listening to the UFO content. You know,

1354
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:01.039
<v Speaker 1>you could listen to my one and I love yours,

1355
01:06:01.159 --> 01:06:02.039
<v Speaker 1>and yours is different.

1356
01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:02.800
<v Speaker 2>I guess why?

1357
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:05.199
<v Speaker 1>How come? Because A, you're my friend and I know

1358
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:06.239
<v Speaker 1>you and I trust you and.

1359
01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Your adpotism yes friend friend nepotism.

1360
01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:16.079
<v Speaker 1>But it's about me but but no serious answer. It's

1361
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:19.920
<v Speaker 1>very deep and it encompasses a lot of things, Like

1362
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you're just spot.

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01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:23.119
<v Speaker 5>On yes, you're spot on. I say that, Yes I

1364
01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:23.639
<v Speaker 5>am spot on.

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01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm not saying I'm not saying that all people

1366
01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:29.079
<v Speaker 1>out there are what I'm describing. I'm just saying I

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01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:31.760
<v Speaker 1>would much rather watch my anime. I would much rather

1368
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:32.880
<v Speaker 1>listen to a podcast.

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01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:34.639
<v Speaker 2>Have so much time in the day, why would you

1370
01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:35.639
<v Speaker 2>waste your time listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a UFO fanatic. I'm not out here desperate

1372
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:41.280
<v Speaker 1>and be part of the UFO fan club.

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01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:43.199
<v Speaker 2>This is you know what, and neither am I. What

1374
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.360
<v Speaker 2>I find is, I guess I am. What I do

1375
01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:49.199
<v Speaker 2>is I listen to it and I'm going like, huh interesting,

1376
01:06:49.320 --> 01:06:50.719
<v Speaker 2>put that in my bag, you know what I mean.

1377
01:06:50.760 --> 01:06:53.119
<v Speaker 2>It's what inspired me to make that episode. If I

1378
01:06:53.119 --> 01:06:55.440
<v Speaker 2>hadn't have been tuned into all this stuff, I never

1379
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:56.960
<v Speaker 2>would have made that episode because I was listening to

1380
01:06:56.960 --> 01:06:58.280
<v Speaker 2>it and I was like, no, now I got to

1381
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:01.320
<v Speaker 2>say something. Let me just you know what I mean.

1382
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I was just I had to so watching it. I

1383
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:06.000
<v Speaker 2>watch it and I find it interesting to see some

1384
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:09.039
<v Speaker 2>of the threads and little echoes of things that I'm

1385
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:10.960
<v Speaker 2>reading in all of these different books that I'm reading,

1386
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:14.519
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just going, huh interesting. But I I am

1387
01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:16.440
<v Speaker 2>finding it difficult to keep up these days, and I've

1388
01:07:16.440 --> 01:07:18.679
<v Speaker 2>been kind of stopping because there's only so many four

1389
01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:22.039
<v Speaker 2>hour interviews you can listen to. With the next military dude,

1390
01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:26.960
<v Speaker 2>it gets very old, very old, honestly, very I'm tired.

1391
01:07:27.039 --> 01:07:30.280
<v Speaker 2>For one, I'm tired. How can we get like an

1392
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:36.280
<v Speaker 2>old funny grandma or something like, come on, I'm so

1393
01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:37.960
<v Speaker 2>tired of us.

1394
01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:41.039
<v Speaker 1>However, you know what, to be fair, we're not a

1395
01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:43.079
<v Speaker 1>UFO show. We're not sitting around talking about you.

1396
01:07:44.280 --> 01:07:46.119
<v Speaker 2>And I think and I think a lot of people

1397
01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:48.800
<v Speaker 2>think that too, and it's just like, no, it's it's actually,

1398
01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you guys are just a what would you categorize your

1399
01:07:50.960 --> 01:07:54.199
<v Speaker 2>podcast like a spirituality podcast? Because that's what I.

1400
01:07:55.280 --> 01:08:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Meta documentary, that's what it am. An elevator pist element,

1401
01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:03.400
<v Speaker 3>that's what we've called it. Like the beginning, it's beginning

1402
01:08:03.679 --> 01:08:07.239
<v Speaker 3>because really it's just about the Bledsoe's experience. It's just

1403
01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:09.559
<v Speaker 3>like all the other stuff that we talk about is

1404
01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:13.199
<v Speaker 3>just like hoping to contextualize the experience.

1405
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, yeah, yeah, that's a good idea.

1406
01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:17.680
<v Speaker 4>And that sounds a good the way I said it.

1407
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:20.479
<v Speaker 2>It did, it really did.

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01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sold watching sometime. Yeah, I'm watching it right now.

1409
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:33.159
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, I want to be clear though, Molly,

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01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:35.640
<v Speaker 1>like I don't. I don't say what I said to

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01:08:35.720 --> 01:08:38.399
<v Speaker 1>make you or anybody feel bad, Okay, I just want

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01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:41.239
<v Speaker 1>to stress this. I know that there are a lot

1413
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:42.840
<v Speaker 1>of people out there in the world who are so

1414
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:45.520
<v Speaker 1>obsessed and fascinated by the topic of UFOs that all

1415
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:47.880
<v Speaker 1>they want to do is research it. That's fine. I

1416
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:50.720
<v Speaker 1>do not mean any disrespect towards that. I am not

1417
01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that guy. You know, my dad was a carpenter for

1418
01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:57.119
<v Speaker 1>fifty years. He's not at home watching carpentry videos at

1419
01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:00.199
<v Speaker 1>night after a job. He's doing the things he enjoys.

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01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Such a good point. I'm not.

1421
01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:07.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sitting here trying to research UFOs. I don't feel, honestly,

1422
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:10.159
<v Speaker 1>as if I need to. I've been experiencing this since

1423
01:09:10.199 --> 01:09:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I was thirteen years old. It is a normal part

1424
01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:14.920
<v Speaker 1>of my life. It's like it's just a fundament.

1425
01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:16.399
<v Speaker 2>And also, you're okay with what you know and what

1426
01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:18.439
<v Speaker 2>you don't know at this point, right like you've made

1427
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:20.520
<v Speaker 2>peace with it. And I'm not saying you don't because

1428
01:09:20.560 --> 01:09:24.159
<v Speaker 2>there is, yeah, there's something stuff. Nobody knows everything. You

1429
01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:26.039
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, we don't know. You know what

1430
01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:29.000
<v Speaker 2>you know of your experiences, and that's enough for you, you

1431
01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:31.720
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Like you you have your knowing,

1432
01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:33.920
<v Speaker 2>is what I'm saying. So it's you're You're not out

1433
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:35.720
<v Speaker 2>there trying to get somebody else's knowing.

1434
01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:38.840
<v Speaker 1>You have your My research is going out and to

1435
01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the side, to the night sky and communicating and getting

1436
01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:45.640
<v Speaker 1>confirmation from the beings. You know. It's not Yeah, it's

1437
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:47.680
<v Speaker 1>not listening to some random show and that's okay. Again,

1438
01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:50.119
<v Speaker 1>I want to stress I'm not knocking anybody that does that. No,

1439
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:52.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm much more content just watching one piece of chilling.

1440
01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of which, we need to do the phone skywatching

1441
01:09:56.159 --> 01:09:57.840
<v Speaker 2>with you and your dad, because remember when we left

1442
01:09:57.880 --> 01:09:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and Chris was like, we'll have to do it where

1443
01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:01.720
<v Speaker 2>we call you because I got to say, I've been

1444
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:06.039
<v Speaker 2>out a few times and I've tried, and I'm just like, damn, yeah,

1445
01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:08.319
<v Speaker 2>we should. Doesn't just it just doesn't hit the same

1446
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:12.000
<v Speaker 2>as when you're with let's do it. We should. I

1447
01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.319
<v Speaker 2>would love to, Yeah, we'll do it. I go out

1448
01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:17.479
<v Speaker 2>there sometimes and I'm like, Yo, what's up, guys, Let's

1449
01:10:17.479 --> 01:10:21.000
<v Speaker 2>do this again, and they're like, not today, Moly. The

1450
01:10:21.119 --> 01:10:23.880
<v Speaker 2>orbs just aren't aren't playing playing ball with me right now.

1451
01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:25.359
<v Speaker 2>But I go out there. I try.

1452
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Well, I have to say, I'm feeling a little bit. Uh,

1453
01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the word is. You you got

1454
01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:36.279
<v Speaker 1>me wound up on the UFO subject, the good which

1455
01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:39.560
<v Speaker 1>is funny good because I hyped you up before we

1456
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:41.079
<v Speaker 1>were going to record. We were like, we can't get

1457
01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:41.880
<v Speaker 1>too wound up.

1458
01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I know, and look at look what happened me stirring

1459
01:10:46.319 --> 01:10:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the pot.

1460
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:51.479
<v Speaker 1>She text me today and it was like, uh, you know,

1461
01:10:51.520 --> 01:10:55.079
<v Speaker 1>obviously we still have for tonight. Yeah, of course, and uh,

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01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:57.119
<v Speaker 1>what do you want to go into tonight? I was like,

1463
01:10:57.159 --> 01:10:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I really want to get down into the esoteric stuff.

1464
01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:05.279
<v Speaker 1>And it ended up being straight UFO hot goss tea. Yeah,

1465
01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:07.119
<v Speaker 1>it ended up being straight UFO guests.

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01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:09.159
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not madifying it, but I mean, but I

1467
01:11:09.199 --> 01:11:12.279
<v Speaker 2>will say, it's stuff. That's it's it's what's being talked

1468
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:14.920
<v Speaker 2>about right now. And I and and I also think

1469
01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:20.119
<v Speaker 2>that it's it's the it's the angle that people need

1470
01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:22.720
<v Speaker 2>to be looking at. The The TLDR of it is

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01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:26.600
<v Speaker 2>basically just be okay with the unknowable and also go

1472
01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:30.199
<v Speaker 2>out there and have your own experiences in whatever way

1473
01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:33.960
<v Speaker 2>that looks for you. Because for me, I've crafted my

1474
01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:36.520
<v Speaker 2>own pick and mix bag of spirituality, you know what

1475
01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:38.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean. I read a lot of these books and

1476
01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:40.239
<v Speaker 2>some of my essays. I'm just reading a book right

1477
01:11:40.279 --> 01:11:43.880
<v Speaker 2>now by this sick ass author. She's like but she's

1478
01:11:44.239 --> 01:11:47.479
<v Speaker 2>old like ritual magician style, so you know, she writes

1479
01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:49.960
<v Speaker 2>about this stuff. It's very cool. Her name's what is it,

1480
01:11:50.199 --> 01:11:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Dolores nor Wiki or something. But it's just so funny

1481
01:11:52.960 --> 01:11:57.000
<v Speaker 2>because any any like evangelical Christian would be like, that's

1482
01:11:57.039 --> 01:12:03.000
<v Speaker 2>that's demonic. That's the first three pages. The first three

1483
01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:05.000
<v Speaker 2>pages is this woman who's writing this book in like

1484
01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:07.640
<v Speaker 2>the sixties, and she's like, so, first you're gonna want

1485
01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:10.720
<v Speaker 2>to make your pillars, like you know, the the black

1486
01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:12.960
<v Speaker 2>and white pillars. And she's like, you can get some

1487
01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:16.680
<v Speaker 2>pipes from the local store, spray paint them black. And

1488
01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:18.680
<v Speaker 2>then she's like and I'm like, it's this little grandma

1489
01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:23.359
<v Speaker 2>telling us how to do ritual. Yes, it's just so

1490
01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:25.399
<v Speaker 2>it's so cute. But at the end of the day,

1491
01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:27.840
<v Speaker 2>you read these things though, and that's what I do.

1492
01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I read them and then there are little things you

1493
01:12:30.600 --> 01:12:32.760
<v Speaker 2>can pick apart, and then you start to also just

1494
01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:35.640
<v Speaker 2>see the connecting thread of all of this stuff. And

1495
01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it's just that your answers are within all of this stuff.

1496
01:12:39.680 --> 01:12:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Even these ritual magicians, they're so silly, you don't need

1497
01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:45.640
<v Speaker 2>She's literally giving us a pattern to make our own rope.

1498
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:46.239
<v Speaker 5>Like we're little.

1499
01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:48.479
<v Speaker 2>We're like, we're about to do dungeons and dragons right like,

1500
01:12:49.479 --> 01:12:52.760
<v Speaker 2>which like cool, honestly, but I'm not gonna. And she

1501
01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:55.680
<v Speaker 2>also said you can only achieve the results if you

1502
01:12:55.800 --> 01:12:58.079
<v Speaker 2>sow your own rope. I'm like, bitch, I'm not sewing

1503
01:12:58.079 --> 01:13:00.600
<v Speaker 2>my own rope. I'm sorry, I'm not like, I don't know.

1504
01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:05.760
<v Speaker 2>She says, ceiling blue and put stars on the ceiling.

1505
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:09.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm going, girl, I'm tired. Three pages in, I'm already

1506
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:10.039
<v Speaker 2>tired of magic.

1507
01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:12.840
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Brenda, I'm not paining my ceiling.

1508
01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:15.319
<v Speaker 1>You real, I got a wizard Amazon.

1509
01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:20.399
<v Speaker 2>It's it's all of these, all of these beautiful spiritual texts.

1510
01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:24.359
<v Speaker 2>People have the kernel of it, but they're all saying,

1511
01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:26.800
<v Speaker 2>this is my way, this is my way, this is

1512
01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:29.840
<v Speaker 2>my way. Yeah, find your way, you know, and it

1513
01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:31.800
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean somebody else's way. But as soon as you

1514
01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:34.520
<v Speaker 2>start saying you have to do it like this, and

1515
01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:38.880
<v Speaker 2>it is this, you're already off the mystical path, like

1516
01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:41.600
<v Speaker 2>you're already Yeah, I agree, you're back at square one again.

1517
01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:48.199
<v Speaker 3>You have to maintain some level of agnosticism or.

1518
01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe not necessarily that, but like openness. I don't know,

1519
01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:58.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's what I mean openness flexibility.

1520
01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:03.439
<v Speaker 3>Because agnosticism is just saying I'm questioning, and you're forever questioning.

1521
01:14:03.840 --> 01:14:04.920
<v Speaker 4>Yes, So as you.

1522
01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:09.399
<v Speaker 3>A little shred, you gotta maintain some agnosticism, like yes,

1523
01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:11.880
<v Speaker 3>get out I love what you're saying. Get out there,

1524
01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:15.600
<v Speaker 3>have your experiences, have your mixed bag of the things

1525
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:18.520
<v Speaker 3>that you connect with and the things that work for you.

1526
01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:22.279
<v Speaker 2>And also recognize, recognized to be able to spot when

1527
01:14:22.319 --> 01:14:26.359
<v Speaker 2>someone is like doing the most when they're going like, oh,

1528
01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:28.319
<v Speaker 2>I have to do it this way or this, that

1529
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:33.319
<v Speaker 2>and the other. And watch how easily neuroticism EEPs into everything.

1530
01:14:33.359 --> 01:14:35.680
<v Speaker 2>You know. You can make anything neurotic. You can make

1531
01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:38.960
<v Speaker 2>going on the treadmill neurotic or healthy. You can make

1532
01:14:39.039 --> 01:14:41.800
<v Speaker 2>drinking a glass of wine that's cool, but then the

1533
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:44.920
<v Speaker 2>whole bottle not so much. Right if you're rigid about things.

1534
01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:47.439
<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing with Zaz is on like his

1535
01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:51.159
<v Speaker 2>protein journey. He's trying to like bulk up again. And

1536
01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:55.279
<v Speaker 2>this man, anyone out there that tries to eat two

1537
01:14:55.359 --> 01:14:57.239
<v Speaker 2>hundred grams of protein, you got to make that your

1538
01:14:57.279 --> 01:14:57.920
<v Speaker 2>whole life.

1539
01:14:58.079 --> 01:14:58.880
<v Speaker 5>So this man is.

1540
01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Weighing things, and I'm going, you know what, this is

1541
01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:07.600
<v Speaker 2>giving a like pageant girl anarexia energy that I have

1542
01:15:07.920 --> 01:15:10.239
<v Speaker 2>and when I was sixteen, But you know, like things

1543
01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:13.840
<v Speaker 2>can become neurotic. And he laughs, he's doing it because

1544
01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:15.840
<v Speaker 2>he wants to to get strong again and fair enough,

1545
01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:18.119
<v Speaker 2>this is maybe forever. But I told him, I was like, sas,

1546
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:20.840
<v Speaker 2>you know that if you're weighing your food forever, like

1547
01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:24.439
<v Speaker 2>that's maybe no longer healthy anymore. That's just neuroticism, and

1548
01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:28.880
<v Speaker 2>which he agrees, And so I'm just going, spirituality can

1549
01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:31.199
<v Speaker 2>become a neuroticism, just like anything else.

1550
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:33.079
<v Speaker 5>And I think that's what we're sing.

1551
01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:37.039
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I to be completely honest, sometimes I feel

1552
01:15:37.079 --> 01:15:38.319
<v Speaker 1>like I fall into those traps.

1553
01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:41.199
<v Speaker 2>But the fact that you can say that you do

1554
01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:43.319
<v Speaker 2>at least you have an awareness of it, and so

1555
01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:45.000
<v Speaker 2>you can like recalibrate yourself.

1556
01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:47.319
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Yes, that's all it takes, is that.

1557
01:15:47.479 --> 01:15:51.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because we all do I do. I have to

1558
01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:53.199
<v Speaker 2>sometimes go, Okay, you guys probably feel this too. When

1559
01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:55.399
<v Speaker 2>I've really been taking in too much of this stuff,

1560
01:15:55.720 --> 01:15:58.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm going I actually just need to like play Assassin's

1561
01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Creed or something, or I need ask me.

1562
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:02.560
<v Speaker 4>After every single episode we.

1563
01:16:02.439 --> 01:16:05.239
<v Speaker 5>Were right, turn my brain off for a bit.

1564
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:06.079
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear.

1565
01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:09.720
<v Speaker 3>No, my bandwidth is tiny for this type of stuff,

1566
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:12.119
<v Speaker 3>and like I'm just every episode I'm like.

1567
01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:16.079
<v Speaker 4>Who okay, guys, I'm beat. Yeah, go home and play

1568
01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:17.479
<v Speaker 4>Minecraft for sure.

1569
01:16:17.640 --> 01:16:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I got it. And that's a good thing. It's like

1570
01:16:19.880 --> 01:16:22.760
<v Speaker 2>the magician tarot card. You know, it's my favorite tarot card. Like,

1571
01:16:22.800 --> 01:16:24.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, you got to have you got to keep

1572
01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:28.319
<v Speaker 2>your one foot on planet Earth with all of this stuff,

1573
01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:31.279
<v Speaker 2>and there's magic in the mundane, you know. That's another

1574
01:16:31.319 --> 01:16:33.640
<v Speaker 2>thing that people forget. I think that's a beautiful thing.

1575
01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:37.039
<v Speaker 2>I just learned this concept called the the hearth Fire,

1576
01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:40.399
<v Speaker 2>and it's all about the magic of tending to your

1577
01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:43.159
<v Speaker 2>everyday life. And I think that's a really beautiful thing, right,

1578
01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Like making a cup of tea for the person you

1579
01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:48.560
<v Speaker 2>love can be a magical thing. You can like infuse

1580
01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:51.640
<v Speaker 2>love into doing that or just being with that person

1581
01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:52.079
<v Speaker 2>that you love.

1582
01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:53.159
<v Speaker 5>That's very magical.

1583
01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:55.239
<v Speaker 2>But people are like, no, no, no, I need to

1584
01:16:55.279 --> 01:16:59.039
<v Speaker 2>go and watch the newest UFO thing. No, just do something.

1585
01:16:59.560 --> 01:17:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Tend to the hearth fire. That's just as magical, right

1586
01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:04.680
<v Speaker 2>as as anything else.

1587
01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:07.199
<v Speaker 3>I love that so much, And I love that you're

1588
01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:10.720
<v Speaker 3>saying that because I identify so much with that. Like, yes,

1589
01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm very much the magic and the mundane type of stuff.

1590
01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:18.039
<v Speaker 3>We were talking about this recently and I said something

1591
01:17:18.039 --> 01:17:20.359
<v Speaker 3>to the effect of, like I feel the exact same

1592
01:17:20.359 --> 01:17:23.439
<v Speaker 3>way like when I see an orb as when I

1593
01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:29.239
<v Speaker 3>do like watching the ocean, like it's so beautiful and captivating. Yes,

1594
01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:32.039
<v Speaker 3>but it's it's all kind of it's all magic to me.

1595
01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:36.680
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, like I love cooking for people and making

1596
01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:39.439
<v Speaker 3>tea or getting people you know, like stuff like that.

1597
01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:42.760
<v Speaker 4>And because it feels it does feel magical.

1598
01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:45.520
<v Speaker 2>It feels like because it is, you're giving energy.

1599
01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:47.640
<v Speaker 5>You are I was about to say, you're giving energy

1600
01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:48.159
<v Speaker 5>to people.

1601
01:17:48.279 --> 01:17:50.399
<v Speaker 2>And think about all those times when you are watching

1602
01:17:50.479 --> 01:17:53.359
<v Speaker 2>the ocean and you have that realization of like, oh

1603
01:17:53.399 --> 01:17:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I need to say that to that person, or Oh,

1604
01:17:55.960 --> 01:17:58.520
<v Speaker 2>you're on a walk and you're going, oh, that's that's

1605
01:17:58.520 --> 01:18:01.039
<v Speaker 2>what I'm going to Oh, that book or whatever. I've

1606
01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:03.640
<v Speaker 2>had so many magical moments like that in the last

1607
01:18:03.680 --> 01:18:06.039
<v Speaker 2>couple of years. Crazy shit, right, where I'm on a

1608
01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:08.079
<v Speaker 2>walk and like a name, Well, what's what I put

1609
01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:11.640
<v Speaker 2>in that episode of UF, the episode Ryan did. I

1610
01:18:11.720 --> 01:18:15.680
<v Speaker 2>was walking and I literally was looking at a hummingbird, right,

1611
01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:18.399
<v Speaker 2>and I just thought, Oh, this name popped into my mind.

1612
01:18:18.600 --> 01:18:19.720
<v Speaker 2>That's very magical.

1613
01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:20.560
<v Speaker 4>Right. It wasn't.

1614
01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:23.560
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't seeing a craft, it wasn't a little gray man,

1615
01:18:23.880 --> 01:18:27.239
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't like anything. But it was that's magical too.

1616
01:18:27.319 --> 01:18:28.880
<v Speaker 2>And that was just on a walk with my daughter,

1617
01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:29.720
<v Speaker 2>you know.

1618
01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:33.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's one of those little moments just happened because

1619
01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:35.560
<v Speaker 1>for like a good ten minutes now, I was waiting

1620
01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:37.279
<v Speaker 1>for the opportunity to bring this up.

1621
01:18:37.680 --> 01:18:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

1622
01:18:38.199 --> 01:18:43.159
<v Speaker 1>And then and then you mentioned Assassin's Creed, which was

1623
01:18:43.239 --> 01:18:47.720
<v Speaker 1>my segue into I wanted to ask you because and

1624
01:18:47.800 --> 01:18:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm stalling on saying what it is because

1625
01:18:50.920 --> 01:18:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I like to build up the question.

1626
01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Right, and you're just stalling more by That's that's part

1627
01:18:56.560 --> 01:19:01.359
<v Speaker 3>of it, because particularly helping you, I know, and.

1628
01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:05.319
<v Speaker 1>They're forestalling more, right, and come on, guys, particularly what

1629
01:19:05.479 --> 01:19:09.479
<v Speaker 1>this it is? I have been very interested in as

1630
01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:12.319
<v Speaker 1>of late, which happens to be heavily featured in Assass's creed.

1631
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:15.520
<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to ask you if you have been

1632
01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:20.119
<v Speaker 1>interested in this particular subject, which is the Templars.

1633
01:19:20.600 --> 01:19:25.600
<v Speaker 2>Ugh obsessed? You know, get this? How crazy is this?

1634
01:19:25.760 --> 01:19:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Look on my audible? Right now on your audible?

1635
01:19:29.279 --> 01:19:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, the.

1636
01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:36.600
<v Speaker 4>App Oh oh damn wow, literally right there, it's just

1637
01:19:36.680 --> 01:19:37.760
<v Speaker 4>called the Templar.

1638
01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:38.720
<v Speaker 1>So what's your take?

1639
01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:41.359
<v Speaker 5>What's my take on the Templars?

1640
01:19:41.680 --> 01:19:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

1641
01:19:42.159 --> 01:19:44.600
<v Speaker 2>God, what a question, Ryan, I mean, what do we

1642
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:48.600
<v Speaker 2>have another five fucking hours here? I mean that's a

1643
01:19:48.800 --> 01:19:51.600
<v Speaker 2>that's a that's a doozy of a question. I mean,

1644
01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I find well, the Templars truly understood the perennial philosophy,

1645
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:01.640
<v Speaker 2>you know they I just like any organization, do I

1646
01:20:01.680 --> 01:20:04.199
<v Speaker 2>think that when things get it's a really great segue actually,

1647
01:20:04.239 --> 01:20:06.960
<v Speaker 2>because I think as an organization, just like anything, when

1648
01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:11.039
<v Speaker 2>they get too structured, when they start, anything starts the magic.

1649
01:20:11.479 --> 01:20:14.000
<v Speaker 5>That what I've learned. Have you ever heard of an egg, Gregor?

1650
01:20:14.119 --> 01:20:17.000
<v Speaker 2>It's like a concept in magic, right, Yeah, So like

1651
01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:22.119
<v Speaker 2>I think that sometimes that it's just there's something about

1652
01:20:22.199 --> 01:20:23.640
<v Speaker 2>probably happened with the Catholic Church.

1653
01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:25.399
<v Speaker 5>There's a certain magic.

1654
01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:28.840
<v Speaker 2>There, and then it becomes a bloaded institution and it

1655
01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:31.520
<v Speaker 2>loses its magic, and then corrupt people start to see

1656
01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:33.399
<v Speaker 2>it's a way to get money and power and all

1657
01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:36.159
<v Speaker 2>those things. That's how I feel about the Templars. I

1658
01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:39.039
<v Speaker 2>think like eventually things just like the wheels started to

1659
01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:44.439
<v Speaker 2>fall off, But for me, I think that they It's

1660
01:20:44.479 --> 01:20:47.600
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite things to learn about and geek

1661
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:49.720
<v Speaker 2>out on. And this book by Dan Brown, I mean

1662
01:20:49.880 --> 01:20:51.920
<v Speaker 2>or Dan Jones, Sorry, have you ever heard of him?

1663
01:20:51.960 --> 01:20:56.279
<v Speaker 2>He hosts this incredible history podcast. I think it's it's

1664
01:20:56.279 --> 01:20:58.960
<v Speaker 2>not the rest is history or something. I mean, his

1665
01:20:59.159 --> 01:21:05.600
<v Speaker 2>voice just so sick and British and like, oh, captivating man's.

1666
01:21:05.960 --> 01:21:12.279
<v Speaker 1>British laws or canons, which is the Kingdom could be

1667
01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:15.399
<v Speaker 1>properly governed in a man pleasant Oh you know what

1668
01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

1669
01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Come on. Reminds me of like falling asleep to Harry

1670
01:21:18.680 --> 01:21:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Potter books on tape when I was little. I fall

1671
01:21:20.800 --> 01:21:23.520
<v Speaker 2>asleep to this book. It's no offense. Stand it's really good.

1672
01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:24.800
<v Speaker 2>It's just as well.

1673
01:21:24.840 --> 01:21:26.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's like, whoa.

1674
01:21:26.199 --> 01:21:31.119
<v Speaker 2>It's a fifteen hour deep dive on the Templars. Highly read,

1675
01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:33.920
<v Speaker 2>and Ryan he did a whole other book on like

1676
01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:38.159
<v Speaker 2>the Plantagenet Plantagenet, like Tudor family line, which I think

1677
01:21:38.199 --> 01:21:42.079
<v Speaker 2>you would find very interesting. Yeah, exactly, So I mean,

1678
01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:44.920
<v Speaker 2>what would you what? What do you want to know

1679
01:21:45.000 --> 01:21:47.359
<v Speaker 2>my perspective on the Templars? I guess, like, what do

1680
01:21:47.399 --> 01:21:49.079
<v Speaker 2>you mean? What do I think of them?

1681
01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Well? I was just asked them. Yeah, for sure. I've recently,

1682
01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:58.359
<v Speaker 1>I've just recently been very interested in the templars because

1683
01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:02.079
<v Speaker 1>the grand master of a particular templar order has recently

1684
01:22:02.119 --> 01:22:03.920
<v Speaker 1>come on my radar, and.

1685
01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I know who it is. Yeah, can I say the name?

1686
01:22:07.800 --> 01:22:08.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't care.

1687
01:22:08.479 --> 01:22:09.199
<v Speaker 5>Timothy Hogan.

1688
01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, love him, love him. Have you met him?

1689
01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:16.760
<v Speaker 2>No? I've literally watched probably like fifteen hours of him speak.

1690
01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I've listened to every interview he's ever done because I

1691
01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:21.199
<v Speaker 2>love him and I think he's the real deal.

1692
01:22:21.600 --> 01:22:23.920
<v Speaker 1>He's definitely the real deal. I have several friends that

1693
01:22:24.039 --> 01:22:25.760
<v Speaker 1>are very good friends with him and know him personally

1694
01:22:25.800 --> 01:22:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and are even part of the order.

1695
01:22:27.399 --> 01:22:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I am so jealous, and I wish I could come

1696
01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:32.760
<v Speaker 2>on as just a weird little co host for that episode.

1697
01:22:34.079 --> 01:22:35.199
<v Speaker 5>Really, but I'll be listening.

1698
01:22:35.479 --> 01:22:38.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not in contact. I'm just curious I'm just learning

1699
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:39.359
<v Speaker 1>myself because.

1700
01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:40.600
<v Speaker 5>Oh, you haven't reached out to him yet.

1701
01:22:40.840 --> 01:22:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, no answer. But yeah, well he's busy, yeah, fair,

1702
01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:50.439
<v Speaker 1>And that's okay. You know, I'm just exciting.

1703
01:22:50.840 --> 01:22:53.680
<v Speaker 2>I've seen him on some interesting channels that I would

1704
01:22:53.680 --> 01:22:57.680
<v Speaker 2>be like, you guys have such a I just nerdily

1705
01:22:57.720 --> 01:23:00.119
<v Speaker 2>wish that he will come on here so that I

1706
01:23:00.119 --> 01:23:01.720
<v Speaker 2>can listen to you guys talk to him. He's a

1707
01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:04.319
<v Speaker 2>really interesting guy. But continue, I have a good feeling

1708
01:23:04.319 --> 01:23:04.640
<v Speaker 2>about it.

1709
01:23:04.640 --> 01:23:07.439
<v Speaker 1>But long for a short I went on a friend's

1710
01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>show recently by the name of Matt Bell. He's a

1711
01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:11.720
<v Speaker 1>good friend of mine and he has an amazing show,

1712
01:23:12.479 --> 01:23:15.039
<v Speaker 1>and we became friends because I went on his show.

1713
01:23:15.079 --> 01:23:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really know him that well yet. But anyway,

1714
01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm at his place at his amazing studio in Bradenton, Florida,

1715
01:23:20.840 --> 01:23:22.880
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, hey, I had I did an episode

1716
01:23:22.920 --> 01:23:25.000
<v Speaker 1>of my show. You should really check out when you

1717
01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:27.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're out of here. It's uh with

1718
01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:29.439
<v Speaker 1>the Grand Master of the Templar Knights. You should check

1719
01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:31.439
<v Speaker 1>it out. And I was like, okay, Now, I went

1720
01:23:31.479 --> 01:23:33.399
<v Speaker 1>and I listened. At about two hours in, they start

1721
01:23:33.439 --> 01:23:34.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about me, and I was like, what the fuck

1722
01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:38.960
<v Speaker 1>this is weird? Wait, Timothy Hogan did well, no, no, no,

1723
01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:41.359
<v Speaker 1>the host brought it up, and then so what did

1724
01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>he's What was Timothy Hogan's take on Well, they were

1725
01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:47.079
<v Speaker 1>I came up because they were talking about how the

1726
01:23:47.119 --> 01:23:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Templar Knights do initiations at the temples in Egypt, at

1727
01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:56.079
<v Speaker 1>the pyramids, they actually host initiations and there have been

1728
01:23:56.119 --> 01:24:00.640
<v Speaker 1>many occasions where they'll see orbs over the pyramid and

1729
01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:05.279
<v Speaker 1>they they and you could tell that his uh, his

1730
01:24:05.720 --> 01:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>understanding of it was pretty high level, but not like

1731
01:24:09.680 --> 01:24:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not like the beings are coming down

1732
01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:13.399
<v Speaker 1>and you know, giving them the whole works.

1733
01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:16.680
<v Speaker 2>But yeahs you know.

1734
01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>But I will say this actually accidentally ties back to

1735
01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the question earlier you asked, when I'm interested in hearing

1736
01:24:22.239 --> 01:24:25.279
<v Speaker 1>people's take on UFOs, Well, this is exhibit A. Yeah,

1737
01:24:25.319 --> 01:24:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the Grand Master of the Templar Order, you're talking about

1738
01:24:28.920 --> 01:24:33.479
<v Speaker 1>having initiations in the temples at Sick Egypt, and then

1739
01:24:33.479 --> 01:24:36.199
<v Speaker 1>they get outside and they get into a meditative, you know,

1740
01:24:36.479 --> 01:24:38.880
<v Speaker 1>state that's heart centered. He says, it's all about being

1741
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:40.199
<v Speaker 1>in the state of the heart, and we send the

1742
01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:42.079
<v Speaker 1>frequency out and then every now and then they will

1743
01:24:42.079 --> 01:24:44.520
<v Speaker 1>see orbs, it'll appear and then it's gone, and that's it.

1744
01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:47.039
<v Speaker 1>That's the extent of it. He's not claiming he knows

1745
01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:49.159
<v Speaker 1>exactly what they are other than you know, it's a

1746
01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>spiritual thing.

1747
01:24:49.920 --> 01:24:53.079
<v Speaker 2>And again that's an example of a guy who has

1748
01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:56.600
<v Speaker 2>done his own spiritual homework. You know, he's even the

1749
01:24:56.680 --> 01:24:59.439
<v Speaker 2>grand Master. And by the way, his background is so

1750
01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:03.319
<v Speaker 2>fascinating as a person. So but he's been he has

1751
01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:06.439
<v Speaker 2>been swimming in this since he was a child, was

1752
01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:10.079
<v Speaker 2>so young, he was born into it exactly. But he

1753
01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:14.279
<v Speaker 2>even with everything he knows and has seen, he still

1754
01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:18.840
<v Speaker 2>maintains the energy of someone that's like, you know, like

1755
01:25:19.119 --> 01:25:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't claim to know exactly what this is. He

1756
01:25:22.720 --> 01:25:27.680
<v Speaker 2>just claims is he he comes across as that's for sure.

1757
01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I've listened to a few of his interviews now

1758
01:25:29.920 --> 01:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>just because of that, and uh.

1759
01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:34.239
<v Speaker 2>I love listening to him talk. Listeners should definitely google

1760
01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Timothy Hogan and like watch him.

1761
01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely start with the Matt Bell one just because that's

1762
01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:42.039
<v Speaker 1>my friend. This vase here is a well I'm covering it,

1763
01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>but this this plastic thing here is a uh how

1764
01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:49.279
<v Speaker 1>can I say this? It is a three D print

1765
01:25:49.359 --> 01:25:53.399
<v Speaker 1>It's a three D printed one to one replica of

1766
01:25:53.640 --> 01:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>five thousand year old Egyptian vases that my friend Matt owns.

1767
01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:58.199
<v Speaker 1>He has like the largest private collection in the world.

1768
01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:02.039
<v Speaker 1>They're actually ancient face many of them are like mint condition.

1769
01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:05.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. He like did like a three D scan of it, right, Yeah,

1770
01:26:05.399 --> 01:26:05.800
<v Speaker 4>and then.

1771
01:26:05.680 --> 01:26:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Then three D printed it and he gave it to

1772
01:26:07.199 --> 01:26:08.359
<v Speaker 1>me as a gift. So I keep you here in

1773
01:26:08.399 --> 01:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>my studio.

1774
01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:11.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's such a cool gift.

1775
01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He's a really cool guy. He's like the Bruce

1776
01:26:13.680 --> 01:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Wayne and podcasting. He's a ceo by day. He owns

1777
01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and runs you know, bells. Have you heard of bells

1778
01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:24.079
<v Speaker 1>the retail store. It's like it's super big, especially in Florida. Anyway,

1779
01:26:24.119 --> 01:26:25.800
<v Speaker 1>he's like the ceo of bells by day and then

1780
01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:29.279
<v Speaker 1>by night he has like this badass podcaster like Bro,

1781
01:26:29.359 --> 01:26:30.279
<v Speaker 1>you're Bruce Wayne.

1782
01:26:30.319 --> 01:26:30.479
<v Speaker 6>Bro.

1783
01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, he put me onto the templar thing, and that's

1784
01:26:33.920 --> 01:26:37.560
<v Speaker 1>why I asked you. Because of that experience, I'm particularly

1785
01:26:37.640 --> 01:26:40.640
<v Speaker 1>interested in studying the templars. And the more I study

1786
01:26:40.680 --> 01:26:43.520
<v Speaker 1>and the more I like learn, I'm like, hmm. So,

1787
01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>on the one hand, you have the Rosicrucians claiming that

1788
01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:49.000
<v Speaker 1>they're the oldest tradition. But then on the other hand,

1789
01:26:49.359 --> 01:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>you have.

1790
01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:52.439
<v Speaker 5>But I think there's a lot of crossover between the two.

1791
01:26:52.800 --> 01:26:55.640
<v Speaker 1>There is, But then you have no real historical evidence

1792
01:26:55.680 --> 01:26:58.039
<v Speaker 1>of the Rosicrucians until like the sixteen hundreds when those

1793
01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>manifestos start popping up. Then, on the other hand, the

1794
01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Templars are legitimately historically older, and they're claiming that the

1795
01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Rosicrucians came from them.

1796
01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, hmmm, yeah, so.

1797
01:27:08.119 --> 01:27:10.439
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't a Rosicrucian kick for a while. Now I

1798
01:27:10.439 --> 01:27:11.880
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm in a Templar kick.

1799
01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:13.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like trying to I feel like they're one and

1800
01:27:13.720 --> 01:27:14.159
<v Speaker 2>the same.

1801
01:27:14.359 --> 01:27:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Truth they are, but it's like, you know, it's like

1802
01:27:17.920 --> 01:27:20.479
<v Speaker 1>the same panthers.

1803
01:27:20.680 --> 01:27:22.479
<v Speaker 2>It's all you know what I'm.

1804
01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Saying, It's it's all a bunch of big, oiled up,

1805
01:27:25.079 --> 01:27:28.319
<v Speaker 1>muscular dudes with not much more capacity for life out

1806
01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>there throwing a ball on a grass field. I mean,

1807
01:27:33.359 --> 01:27:35.319
<v Speaker 1>what else are they doing there? It's what they do.

1808
01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>They throw a ball. They say, all right, everybody, go ball,

1809
01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and they throw a ball. That's what they do.

1810
01:27:40.439 --> 01:27:44.039
<v Speaker 2>And some of them were a same my spirit right now, some.

1811
01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Of them wear a panther's jersey. But it's all it's

1812
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>all fooz a ball. You know what I'm saying. It's

1813
01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:56.680
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. It's just different teams. Yeah, a fooz

1814
01:27:56.720 --> 01:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>a ball there's you know, it's all sports ball.

1815
01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, I love both of those teams. I play for

1816
01:28:03.720 --> 01:28:07.199
<v Speaker 2>both those teams. I play for the Templars and the Rosicrucians.

1817
01:28:07.239 --> 01:28:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I like them, and but I do not hate. Was

1818
01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:15.079
<v Speaker 2>just the joke, I know, I I but the Rosicrucians

1819
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:17.560
<v Speaker 2>to me, it's more like, I don't know about you, Ryan,

1820
01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:19.640
<v Speaker 2>when I have listened, when I've read about it, it's

1821
01:28:19.720 --> 01:28:22.840
<v Speaker 2>more like the Rosicrucians are very similar to like the

1822
01:28:22.840 --> 01:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Grail myth, where I feel like the Rosicrucians were almost

1823
01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:28.920
<v Speaker 2>because Christian Rosencreuz don't quote quote me on that thatt,

1824
01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:33.039
<v Speaker 2>but the guy, the person of the Rosicrucian order, they

1825
01:28:33.039 --> 01:28:35.920
<v Speaker 2>say that that he may never have even actually existed.

1826
01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:37.800
<v Speaker 2>It may have been like it's more of like this

1827
01:28:37.960 --> 01:28:41.520
<v Speaker 2>mythical thing, just like the Grail myth is like who

1828
01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:44.279
<v Speaker 2>knows if there was actually a Grail. It's more of

1829
01:28:45.399 --> 01:28:50.319
<v Speaker 2>the holy Grail, is you right? The journey within? Yeah,

1830
01:28:50.359 --> 01:28:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and I think and the Templars were actually a legit

1831
01:28:53.159 --> 01:28:57.760
<v Speaker 2>organization like they they were they their purpose was to

1832
01:28:57.800 --> 01:29:01.479
<v Speaker 2>make sure that people that were going on pilgrimages weren't

1833
01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>getting murdered. You know, they could actually go to and

1834
01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:08.119
<v Speaker 2>take pilgrimages to these to these sites and have these

1835
01:29:08.479 --> 01:29:12.479
<v Speaker 2>spiritual revelations, arguably taking them to spiritually SkyWatch.

1836
01:29:13.600 --> 01:29:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Hey, you know it's crazy. My mother has seen a

1837
01:29:17.079 --> 01:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>massive orb very close. It was over the tiny house

1838
01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>that you stayed in. Oh wow, like on the roof

1839
01:29:22.840 --> 01:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>of that so you've seen that. It's not very high up,

1840
01:29:25.039 --> 01:29:28.319
<v Speaker 1>it's a little Yeah, this was an orb that was

1841
01:29:28.399 --> 01:29:31.159
<v Speaker 1>like as big as that building but on top of it,

1842
01:29:31.399 --> 01:29:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and it was the shape of a templar cross. Now,

1843
01:29:34.039 --> 01:29:35.880
<v Speaker 1>my mom has no idea what I.

1844
01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Was about to say. I can't imagine you have on no, no, no.

1845
01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:40.239
<v Speaker 1>My mom is freaking out.

1846
01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:41.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god.

1847
01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:43.119
<v Speaker 1>She's trying to explain it. She's like it was a cross,

1848
01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:47.439
<v Speaker 1>but it was like even yeah, yeah, and I'm like,

1849
01:29:47.560 --> 01:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>oh okay, like a templar cross. I was talking to

1850
01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:52.079
<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine the other day and I was

1851
01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>just asking him these kinds of questions and he goes,

1852
01:29:54.359 --> 01:29:56.039
<v Speaker 1>have you ever seen an image of a photon? And

1853
01:29:56.079 --> 01:30:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, googling, you've seen an image of

1854
01:30:00.359 --> 01:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>a photon? Google cross, templar cross.

1855
01:30:06.159 --> 01:30:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, oh shit, I just googled it, templar cross.

1856
01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:14.840
<v Speaker 2>I just guys, I google photon image and it takes

1857
01:30:14.840 --> 01:30:18.159
<v Speaker 2>to Reddit and it is easily a templar cross. And

1858
01:30:18.199 --> 01:30:20.199
<v Speaker 2>the title of the post is this is what a

1859
01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:23.479
<v Speaker 2>single photon looks like? And the Reddit thing that it's

1860
01:30:23.479 --> 01:30:29.800
<v Speaker 2>on is slash are interesting as fuck? Interesting? Wow?

1861
01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's I just was found that very fascinating.

1862
01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>And I know you're with the medieval ages and stuff,

1863
01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:38.439
<v Speaker 1>so I thought you'd have an opinion on that. So

1864
01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>that's why I asked, uh, that's very I.

1865
01:30:42.199 --> 01:30:47.439
<v Speaker 3>Just found the exact article that you show it as

1866
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:49.039
<v Speaker 3>our slash interesting as bug.

1867
01:30:49.960 --> 01:30:51.479
<v Speaker 1>Can you get a little closer so they can see

1868
01:30:51.479 --> 01:30:54.279
<v Speaker 1>the photon. It's the red part. For the listener at

1869
01:30:54.279 --> 01:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>home that like is seeing that on the camera. Yeah,

1870
01:30:56.640 --> 01:31:00.359
<v Speaker 1>that's the photon. That is what a single every single

1871
01:31:00.359 --> 01:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>photon looks like. It's the same as the Rosicruscian symbol.

1872
01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>The vertical line is the spiritual and the horizontal line

1873
01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>is the material. Yeah, the physical.

1874
01:31:11.880 --> 01:31:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, we've been talking about it's like the throw card, right, yes.

1875
01:31:14.880 --> 01:31:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we are the mental. Yeah, we are spiritual

1876
01:31:19.640 --> 01:31:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and physical.

1877
01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:21.079
<v Speaker 4>We are.

1878
01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:22.159
<v Speaker 1>We're hybrids.

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01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:25.800
<v Speaker 2>It's a superpower if you think about you know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But but the problem is is that we're out of

1881
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<v Speaker 2>balance and so we're all that we we have lost

1882
01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>the spiritual part. And then some people that have taken

1883
01:31:36.880 --> 01:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>one too many Ayahuascar retreats, they are stuck in total

1884
01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:43.800
<v Speaker 2>spiritual wou land and they have forgotten to tend to

1885
01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:46.239
<v Speaker 2>the hearth fire right, like they've forgotten the magic and

1886
01:31:46.279 --> 01:31:47.119
<v Speaker 2>the mundane piece.

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01:31:47.479 --> 01:31:49.319
<v Speaker 5>It's always a that's why.

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01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:52.399
<v Speaker 2>Like the people that actually practice real shit, like they're

1889
01:31:52.439 --> 01:31:56.600
<v Speaker 2>real practitioners. They're the people that it's like the billionaires

1890
01:31:56.600 --> 01:31:58.399
<v Speaker 2>that are in the flip flops and the board shorts.

1891
01:31:58.399 --> 01:32:00.560
<v Speaker 2>They're not showing off their wealth. I feel like it's

1892
01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>that that's the energy with the most spiritual people I've met.

1893
01:32:03.920 --> 01:32:06.119
<v Speaker 2>And when I say that, I'm talking about people that

1894
01:32:06.159 --> 01:32:08.359
<v Speaker 2>are really are very well read on these things and

1895
01:32:08.439 --> 01:32:11.560
<v Speaker 2>actually are not being out there about it.

1896
01:32:11.600 --> 01:32:13.039
<v Speaker 5>You would never know they're not.

1897
01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:15.960
<v Speaker 2>They're not wearing like the free people hat and renting

1898
01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:19.000
<v Speaker 2>a Bungalow and Joshua Tree and doing their divine feminine

1899
01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:26.199
<v Speaker 2>coaching containers. They are you know what I'm saying. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a thing.

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<v Speaker 4>You're a word smith.

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<v Speaker 1>I swear told you she's brilliant. Your last gave her

1903
01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:40.960
<v Speaker 1>life too, did y'all see that? Smart bars, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>What I can. I think it's the baby wait, but

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01:32:46.720 --> 01:32:49.479
<v Speaker 2>the extra chitmunk cheeks are there, but but you know

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01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:54.279
<v Speaker 2>it's that's It brings me back to your dad. He's

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01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:56.760
<v Speaker 2>not having he doesn't want to have to do extra

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01:32:56.800 --> 01:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>extra explaining because he knows. He knows what he knows,

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01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:03.159
<v Speaker 2>and so half the yes and also half the ship

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01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:05.600
<v Speaker 2>that he could say it was like and I will

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01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:08.880
<v Speaker 2>say it did Sean Ryan interview. It was hard to watch,

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01:33:08.960 --> 01:33:12.119
<v Speaker 2>mainly just because you could tell that your dad was

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01:33:12.119 --> 01:33:15.800
<v Speaker 2>doing the best he could. But Sean Ryan, and I'm

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01:33:15.840 --> 01:33:18.960
<v Speaker 2>fine with that, right. Sean Ryan is someone who clearly

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01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:24.680
<v Speaker 2>perceives his worldview through like a pretty like a very

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01:33:24.840 --> 01:33:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Christian lens and and and I mean like just very

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01:33:28.319 --> 01:33:31.039
<v Speaker 2>very much so like And at one point it was

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01:33:31.079 --> 01:33:33.680
<v Speaker 2>either his interview with your dad or the one he

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01:33:33.720 --> 01:33:36.439
<v Speaker 2>did with Diana. I was with Diana Pasolka, and I

1920
01:33:36.479 --> 01:33:39.319
<v Speaker 2>think that he said something and I'm and I quote

1921
01:33:39.399 --> 01:33:44.800
<v Speaker 2>he said, should we even pay attention to anything if

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01:33:44.800 --> 01:33:49.960
<v Speaker 2>it's not in the Bible? WHOA? And I was like,

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01:33:51.479 --> 01:33:55.039
<v Speaker 2>I was like, and Diana Pasolka was like, you could

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01:33:55.079 --> 01:34:00.159
<v Speaker 2>tell she was like Ryan, and you could tell that

1925
01:34:00.199 --> 01:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>she had she had the energy of someone that was

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01:34:02.760 --> 01:34:05.319
<v Speaker 2>like had to tell someone that Santa wasn't real, Like

1927
01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:10.279
<v Speaker 2>she was just like Ryan. There there are, interestingly, surprisingly,

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01:34:10.319 --> 01:34:12.800
<v Speaker 2>there are some things at that are not in the

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01:34:12.800 --> 01:34:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Bible that we should definitely listen to.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm like, holy sh did you.

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<v Speaker 1>See the photo of her like at the Vigilance Elite sign,

1932
01:34:19.439 --> 01:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like my dad did, like every guest

1933
01:34:21.239 --> 01:34:23.479
<v Speaker 1>that goes on a show they signed his Vigilance Oh yeah,

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01:34:23.520 --> 01:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>did you see her like promo photo? No, look like

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01:34:25.720 --> 01:34:29.319
<v Speaker 1>she was in pain really, And that's all. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to comment negative, but yeah, I will very comfortable.

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01:34:34.119 --> 01:34:36.239
<v Speaker 2>It was very uncomfortable. And so to bring it back

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01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:38.199
<v Speaker 2>to the interview.

1939
01:34:39.439 --> 01:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>To hide we have nothing to hide people, We're smiling,

1940
01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:43.439
<v Speaker 1>We're not looking uncomfortable in the pain.

1941
01:34:44.520 --> 01:34:48.159
<v Speaker 2>We're on a dad, Chris Ryan was Chris not Chris Ryan.

1942
01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Sean Ryan Chris Ryan, I'm getting all my names all up.

1943
01:34:51.880 --> 01:34:54.159
<v Speaker 2>He was having a hard time talking to your dad

1944
01:34:54.199 --> 01:34:58.520
<v Speaker 2>because he's asking basically, and that's what everyone says. Chris

1945
01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:01.399
<v Speaker 2>Bledsoe says, Jesus has come back. Chris Bloodsoe. It says

1946
01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:06.079
<v Speaker 2>like that your dad is literally, like fully evangelical christening it.

1947
01:35:06.119 --> 01:35:08.960
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, no, no, no, guys, it's not what

1948
01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:13.079
<v Speaker 2>he's saying. But unfortunately, Sean Ryan's like leading it there

1949
01:35:13.119 --> 01:35:16.720
<v Speaker 2>because that's his paradigm. But your dad's paradigm is so

1950
01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:23.479
<v Speaker 2>much more expansive than that. Yes, and so that interesting

1951
01:35:23.520 --> 01:35:25.520
<v Speaker 2>because like I just was going the whole time. I

1952
01:35:25.560 --> 01:35:27.359
<v Speaker 2>was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, someone else

1953
01:35:27.399 --> 01:35:30.399
<v Speaker 2>needs to be asking these questions because that's not what

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01:35:30.439 --> 01:35:33.560
<v Speaker 2>your dad is saying. Like your dad is, at least

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01:35:33.640 --> 01:35:36.840
<v Speaker 2>my understanding of what he's trying to say there is

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01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:40.239
<v Speaker 2>that there is going to be a radical shift in consciousness.

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01:35:40.279 --> 01:35:43.319
<v Speaker 2>And your dad's not saying that Jesus Christ is the

1958
01:35:43.359 --> 01:35:46.560
<v Speaker 2>bee all one. He is one of the ascended masters

1959
01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:49.439
<v Speaker 2>in your dad's view, right as in your dad clearly

1960
01:35:49.600 --> 01:35:53.039
<v Speaker 2>looks he's reading about ancient Egypt. Your dad knows that

1961
01:35:53.640 --> 01:35:57.760
<v Speaker 2>God is everything everywhere, all at once, and all the

1962
01:35:57.800 --> 01:36:00.439
<v Speaker 2>gods are the same. He ties all those threats together.

1963
01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:05.079
<v Speaker 2>But again, you're gonna get a specific kind of vibe

1964
01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:08.199
<v Speaker 2>when you're getting interviewed by Sean Ryan, who is asking,

1965
01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:12.079
<v Speaker 2>literally taking the serious question of should we take anything

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01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:14.880
<v Speaker 2>seriously that is not in my Bible? And I'm going.

1967
01:36:16.560 --> 01:36:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, sir, what Dad actually said was, uh, you know,

1968
01:36:22.840 --> 01:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe the Lady, maybe the heavenly host, maybe Jesus. I

1969
01:36:26.560 --> 01:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just know that a peace of heaven

1970
01:36:28.720 --> 01:36:30.439
<v Speaker 1>is coming to help and that there's going to be

1971
01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>a new knowledge that things will be different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know, and how And this is what I'll say.

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01:36:37.319 --> 01:36:40.600
<v Speaker 2>That is probably that's the best your dad can do

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01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:45.880
<v Speaker 2>to convey ineffable mystical wisdom that he has experienced in

1975
01:36:45.920 --> 01:36:49.159
<v Speaker 2>his mind right as in like he's he's had these

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01:36:49.279 --> 01:36:52.560
<v Speaker 2>knowings through his direct experiences. And there are some things

1977
01:36:52.560 --> 01:36:55.359
<v Speaker 2>that you just can't articulate. You can do your best.

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01:36:55.399 --> 01:36:57.439
<v Speaker 2>It's like someone can make a painting. They can say,

1979
01:36:57.439 --> 01:36:59.319
<v Speaker 2>but at the end of the day, we're using the

1980
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:01.119
<v Speaker 2>language we have, and at the end of the day

1981
01:37:01.119 --> 01:37:04.000
<v Speaker 2>it's going to very much get It's hard to convey

1982
01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:05.039
<v Speaker 2>something like that.

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01:37:06.680 --> 01:37:08.439
<v Speaker 1>The crazy thing is like even the cut had that

1984
01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>in it, and people are still like, you know, going

1985
01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:14.079
<v Speaker 1>to say that didn't even get cut. Yeah, that part's

1986
01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:16.319
<v Speaker 1>in it. Yeah yeah, like it's whatever.

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01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>It's just interesting. But again, you can't make That's another

1988
01:37:21.920 --> 01:37:25.479
<v Speaker 2>good lesson is you can't make people wake up or

1989
01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:28.119
<v Speaker 2>know things until they're ready to know it. And when

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01:37:28.159 --> 01:37:31.319
<v Speaker 2>they have that knowing, it's like you you're not out

1991
01:37:31.319 --> 01:37:34.199
<v Speaker 2>there seeking for the answers outside anymore. You've got your

1992
01:37:34.239 --> 01:37:39.239
<v Speaker 2>knowing and you don't have to prove it to anybody else.

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01:37:39.640 --> 01:37:41.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I I That's why I said at

1994
01:37:41.800 --> 01:37:43.520
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of all of this is I really wish

1995
01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>that I could download what I experienced into other people's minds.

1996
01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Not because what I experienced is to be all end all,

1997
01:37:49.079 --> 01:37:52.399
<v Speaker 2>but I wish I could download that knowingness because I

1998
01:37:52.520 --> 01:37:55.960
<v Speaker 2>stood there and saw the circumstances.

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01:37:56.039 --> 01:37:57.760
<v Speaker 5>Not just I saw an orb.

2000
01:37:58.199 --> 01:38:00.840
<v Speaker 2>It was the fact that your dad wanted to leave

2001
01:38:00.880 --> 01:38:02.800
<v Speaker 2>the restaurant to get there at a certain time because

2002
01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:04.960
<v Speaker 2>he had a feeling it would happen at a certain time,

2003
01:38:05.199 --> 01:38:08.439
<v Speaker 2>and it was when you know, he's not doing anything

2004
01:38:08.479 --> 01:38:12.600
<v Speaker 2>of summoning your dad is literally connected to this and

2005
01:38:12.640 --> 01:38:13.560
<v Speaker 2>he knows we're all.

2006
01:38:13.439 --> 01:38:14.279
<v Speaker 5>Connected to this.

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01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:17.920
<v Speaker 2>And when he told me to focus on what I

2008
01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:20.560
<v Speaker 2>needed healing from, and I actually really did that, and

2009
01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I told your dad about one of the most horrible

2010
01:38:22.840 --> 01:38:25.359
<v Speaker 2>things that had happened to me, and I started crying

2011
01:38:25.960 --> 01:38:31.079
<v Speaker 2>and that is when it happened. Yeah, how is that demonic?

2012
01:38:32.079 --> 01:38:34.720
<v Speaker 2>If that's demonic, like what that it was? And then

2013
01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:38.880
<v Speaker 2>it's the feeling you get afterwards of like and my

2014
01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:42.199
<v Speaker 2>husband hugged Chris. Zaz never cries, and Zaz said that

2015
01:38:42.279 --> 01:38:47.840
<v Speaker 2>he hugged Chris and just cried. Yes, and so and

2016
01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I know my husband And that's like, you like people

2017
01:38:51.079 --> 01:38:53.560
<v Speaker 2>out there, not you people, because like, dear God, this

2018
01:38:53.640 --> 01:38:54.800
<v Speaker 2>is the Bloodstoe sid So audience.

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01:38:54.840 --> 01:38:55.439
<v Speaker 5>They all get it.

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01:38:55.680 --> 01:38:58.159
<v Speaker 2>But the people that are out there watching those interviews

2021
01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:00.720
<v Speaker 2>and saying things like, oh, this is part of the

2022
01:39:01.560 --> 01:39:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Chris is paid off, like all this stuff. I feel

2023
01:39:04.319 --> 01:39:09.159
<v Speaker 2>for people out there because the them, the they out

2024
01:39:09.199 --> 01:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>there that is has nefarious uh intentions. They're doing a

2025
01:39:13.039 --> 01:39:15.359
<v Speaker 2>really good job of keeping people really confused. And I

2026
01:39:15.399 --> 01:39:18.039
<v Speaker 2>feel bad for people because it's not an easy time

2027
01:39:18.359 --> 01:39:20.800
<v Speaker 2>to be alive right now, and people are confused and

2028
01:39:20.880 --> 01:39:24.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know who to believe, but if they did, if

2029
01:39:24.039 --> 01:39:26.640
<v Speaker 2>they were in front of your dad, they wouldn't be

2030
01:39:26.640 --> 01:39:29.720
<v Speaker 2>saying those things.

2031
01:39:29.960 --> 01:39:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, You're absolutely right.

2032
01:39:33.159 --> 01:39:36.439
<v Speaker 2>Because your dad. It's not even that you can't help

2033
01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:41.520
<v Speaker 2>but meet Chris Bledsoe and like feel his very loving presence.

2034
01:39:41.560 --> 01:39:44.680
<v Speaker 2>He's just a very loving person to where it's just

2035
01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:46.800
<v Speaker 2>like instantly disarming. We talked about it, like your dad

2036
01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:50.199
<v Speaker 2>literally has a twinkle in his eye like an old

2037
01:39:50.199 --> 01:39:51.159
<v Speaker 2>wizard or something.

2038
01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:53.039
<v Speaker 5>It's just like, so it's true.

2039
01:39:53.199 --> 01:39:55.880
<v Speaker 2>He really has this beautiful twinkle in his eye and

2040
01:39:55.920 --> 01:39:59.359
<v Speaker 2>he's so loving and warm, and you just know that

2041
01:40:00.760 --> 01:40:02.840
<v Speaker 2>he's a good person, you know what I mean.

2042
01:40:02.920 --> 01:40:04.159
<v Speaker 4>Does kind of have Gandalf?

2043
01:40:04.640 --> 01:40:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, actually big time.

2044
01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

2045
01:40:06.920 --> 01:40:08.399
<v Speaker 4>I never thought about that. He kind of does.

2046
01:40:08.439 --> 01:40:09.439
<v Speaker 1>I've always noticed that.

2047
01:40:09.920 --> 01:40:12.039
<v Speaker 2>So it's just it makes me sad because I wish,

2048
01:40:12.199 --> 01:40:14.960
<v Speaker 2>but it is what it is. You can't make other

2049
01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:18.199
<v Speaker 2>people know these things, but I do.

2050
01:40:19.199 --> 01:40:21.640
<v Speaker 1>The truth is unfolding regardless, you know. So it's like,

2051
01:40:22.239 --> 01:40:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it is what it is. I'm just had a point

2052
01:40:23.840 --> 01:40:27.880
<v Speaker 1>now like I just don't care, like I could have

2053
01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:31.199
<v Speaker 1>had an easier life. And Alex said this recently. I

2054
01:40:31.199 --> 01:40:34.640
<v Speaker 1>think Nick has said this before, Like I think it

2055
01:40:34.720 --> 01:40:37.079
<v Speaker 1>was when Paul recorded. I think it was Alex that

2056
01:40:37.159 --> 01:40:38.880
<v Speaker 1>said this. Maybe we had just walked out of the room.

2057
01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:40.439
<v Speaker 1>I me and Alex were the last ones in the room,

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01:40:41.199 --> 01:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and uh, do you remember what she said that if

2059
01:40:47.560 --> 01:40:50.079
<v Speaker 1>you were making it up, Yeah, I would have probably

2060
01:40:50.079 --> 01:40:55.760
<v Speaker 1>made it sound att Yeah, you don't know the context

2061
01:40:55.760 --> 01:40:57.039
<v Speaker 1>of what we're talking about there, but we had a

2062
01:40:57.079 --> 01:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>guest who's just had a crazy life and and and

2063
01:40:59.640 --> 01:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a someways as similar to ours with the experiences and stuff.

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01:41:02.039 --> 01:41:04.319
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, bro, if we were making this up,

2065
01:41:04.359 --> 01:41:08.319
<v Speaker 1>we certainly would have you know, made ourselves look a

2066
01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:11.199
<v Speaker 1>lot better, that's for sure. And also like what ye

2067
01:41:11.560 --> 01:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>put ourselves out there to deal with, like you know,

2068
01:41:13.720 --> 01:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>negativity and criticism and always being constantly accessible to people

2069
01:41:18.960 --> 01:41:21.399
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. So I just don't care.

2070
01:41:21.880 --> 01:41:25.960
<v Speaker 2>And showing massive groups of people that what what this is?

2071
01:41:26.039 --> 01:41:28.760
<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean, huge massive groups are seeing

2072
01:41:29.039 --> 01:41:30.079
<v Speaker 2>what you're seeing.

2073
01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:33.039
<v Speaker 1>So and then Greers out there being like, actually their

2074
01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:36.279
<v Speaker 1>ship's fake. Come to my five thousand dollars SkyWatch and

2075
01:41:36.319 --> 01:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll show you the way.

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01:41:37.960 --> 01:41:43.039
<v Speaker 2>I listen, I'm just gonna if there's a scary competition,

2077
01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Stephen Greer is winning every time.

2078
01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:48.159
<v Speaker 1>We must have a bill cycle due.

2079
01:41:48.399 --> 01:41:54.600
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, don't come for me but dahn who fuck?

2080
01:41:55.119 --> 01:41:59.399
<v Speaker 1>But we you you. I tried to tell you how

2081
01:41:59.399 --> 01:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to get wound up, but you know what, You turn

2082
01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>around and you woun me up.

2083
01:42:03.640 --> 01:42:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying so hard, you know, It's all good fun.

2084
01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:09.239
<v Speaker 2>We made fun of my chipmunk cheeks. We can say,

2085
01:42:09.239 --> 01:42:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Stephen Greer looks a little bit like.

2086
01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:14.359
<v Speaker 4>I think I think you two need like a monthly scheduled.

2087
01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:18.279
<v Speaker 3>Call just yes, yes, no, not ship, but we'll say

2088
01:42:18.319 --> 01:42:22.159
<v Speaker 3>tea yes, yes, yeah, you need a monthly like tea spilling.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and Ryan will just have like little tea cups.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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01:42:25.159 --> 01:42:29.239
<v Speaker 3>I think you you guys are like feeding each other's

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01:42:29.279 --> 01:42:32.039
<v Speaker 3>like beef energy, like oh I know big time.

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01:42:32.560 --> 01:42:33.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I love talking with Ryan about this stuff because I

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01:42:35.960 --> 01:42:39.279
<v Speaker 2>really said Ryan something. I'm like, Ryan, Ryan, have you

2096
01:42:39.359 --> 01:42:39.840
<v Speaker 2>seen this?

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01:42:39.920 --> 01:42:45.720
<v Speaker 1>And He's just like, yeah, we definitely.

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01:42:46.079 --> 01:42:47.680
<v Speaker 2>You really feel pop off, queen.

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<v Speaker 1>We have the same level of like obsession about things.

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01:42:50.199 --> 01:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>We're interested in it. That's what I was saying before

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01:42:51.920 --> 01:42:53.199
<v Speaker 1>we started. Yeah, it's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, y'all. Have I said that before we started? You

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01:42:56.319 --> 01:42:58.399
<v Speaker 3>have similar energies like big time.

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01:42:58.479 --> 01:43:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you did because he was trying to before you

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01:43:00.640 --> 01:43:04.159
<v Speaker 1>even joined. He was trying to explain you to Alex

2106
01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:07.279
<v Speaker 1>because he hadn't met you. And that's exactly what that's

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01:43:07.359 --> 01:43:08.039
<v Speaker 1>that's what he said.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, she is very much like Ryan in uh,

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<v Speaker 3>the obsession about in the obsession and in like the

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01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:18.640
<v Speaker 3>seeking of knowledge and the curating and the collecting of things. Yes,

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01:43:19.039 --> 01:43:23.359
<v Speaker 3>I didn't mention like the the smoke energy that y'all

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<v Speaker 3>both have.

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01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:30.479
<v Speaker 2>Energy. I hide it, but you're the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, it's not like we're aggressive. Oh well, it's like

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01:43:33.600 --> 01:43:36.600
<v Speaker 1>we get upset when people are like not rocking with

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01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:39.560
<v Speaker 1>the truth exactly, and it's like, how dare you? You know?

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01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:41.600
<v Speaker 1>That's that's what it is, at least what I feel.

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<v Speaker 2>But especially when it comes to spiritual matters, I just

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01:43:45.279 --> 01:43:47.920
<v Speaker 2>find it too. Yeah, that will really really upset me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same reason why I get upset when listeners

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01:43:50.800 --> 01:43:54.479
<v Speaker 2>that were in kind of like culty religious things that

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01:43:54.560 --> 01:43:57.079
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of religious trauma, even like ex Jehovah's

2123
01:43:57.119 --> 01:43:58.720
<v Speaker 2>witnesses have reached out to me, you know, who have

2124
01:43:58.800 --> 01:44:01.199
<v Speaker 2>been cut off from their family, people that have left

2125
01:44:01.239 --> 01:44:04.840
<v Speaker 2>Mormonism have have reached out to me. And it's the

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01:44:04.880 --> 01:44:07.680
<v Speaker 2>same thing. I hate it when and I'm not saying

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01:44:07.720 --> 01:44:10.560
<v Speaker 2>this always happens in those traditions because I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>to get down on any religious frameworks, not even Mormonism,

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01:44:13.880 --> 01:44:17.119
<v Speaker 2>not even Jova's witness, like do you but when yeah,

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01:44:17.199 --> 01:44:19.039
<v Speaker 2>I think it's fair, you know, like I don't because

2131
01:44:19.039 --> 01:44:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be looking like a hypocrite. So

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01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that there's beauty and beautiful realizations in all

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01:44:25.880 --> 01:44:31.279
<v Speaker 2>of these different But when these people happen to find

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01:44:31.279 --> 01:44:33.800
<v Speaker 2>themselves in a to toxic aspect of one of those

2135
01:44:33.880 --> 01:44:38.600
<v Speaker 2>religions and your sense of spirituality has been tainted or

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01:44:38.640 --> 01:44:42.079
<v Speaker 2>someone like ruined that for you, that's like soul murder

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01:44:42.119 --> 01:44:45.079
<v Speaker 2>of a person, you know. So I don't think there's

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01:44:45.159 --> 01:44:50.039
<v Speaker 2>anything worse you could do to someone than ruin or

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01:44:50.079 --> 01:44:53.960
<v Speaker 2>taint their sense of the divine and make them because

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01:44:53.960 --> 01:44:55.640
<v Speaker 2>you see it with a lot of ex Mormons I

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01:44:55.680 --> 01:44:57.680
<v Speaker 2>talk about I actually never talked about that. As you

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01:44:57.760 --> 01:45:01.279
<v Speaker 2>see it, it's very common in the ex Mormon there's

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01:45:01.279 --> 01:45:02.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of content creators that you know, have come

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01:45:02.960 --> 01:45:05.039
<v Speaker 2>out and they speak out against the Mormon Church. Yeah,

2145
01:45:05.359 --> 01:45:07.319
<v Speaker 2>you see them, And what they do is they do

2146
01:45:07.359 --> 01:45:10.079
<v Speaker 2>this really hard about face and they're just basically like,

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01:45:10.479 --> 01:45:11.520
<v Speaker 2>screw religion.

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01:45:11.640 --> 01:45:12.279
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to.

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01:45:12.239 --> 01:45:16.399
<v Speaker 2>Hear anything about it, and they and it breaks my

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01:45:16.560 --> 01:45:22.359
<v Speaker 2>heart because you you you're robbing yourself of something that

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01:45:22.399 --> 01:45:24.560
<v Speaker 2>could be really beautiful. It's just that it's such a

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01:45:24.600 --> 01:45:26.640
<v Speaker 2>shame that it was used against you. It's the same

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01:45:26.680 --> 01:45:29.199
<v Speaker 2>reason why someone that's been through sexual assault or something

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01:45:29.239 --> 01:45:31.079
<v Speaker 2>like this, like I know that feeling because that was

2155
01:45:31.079 --> 01:45:34.039
<v Speaker 2>something that happened to me. Is you're just like, screw

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01:45:34.119 --> 01:45:35.199
<v Speaker 2>any kind of intimacy.

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01:45:35.239 --> 01:45:36.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't want that.

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01:45:36.079 --> 01:45:38.079
<v Speaker 2>And it's just going like and everybody out there knows

2159
01:45:38.159 --> 01:45:40.239
<v Speaker 2>is there can be really horrible experience of that, or

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01:45:40.279 --> 01:45:42.439
<v Speaker 2>there can be really beautiful experiences of that when it's

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01:45:42.439 --> 01:45:44.800
<v Speaker 2>with your best friend, you know, someone that you really love.

2162
01:45:45.279 --> 01:45:50.640
<v Speaker 2>And so I get very upset when I see something

2163
01:45:50.680 --> 01:45:54.479
<v Speaker 2>as beautiful and pure as what I witnessed with the

2164
01:45:54.520 --> 01:45:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Bloodsteons for example, and what I witness magically in my

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01:45:57.760 --> 01:45:58.439
<v Speaker 2>everyday life.

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01:45:58.520 --> 01:46:00.079
<v Speaker 5>Like I talked about in that episode I made.

2167
01:46:00.840 --> 01:46:04.840
<v Speaker 2>As being about fear, it's actually the most evil thing

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01:46:05.439 --> 01:46:10.199
<v Speaker 2>that anyone can do. And if there's if there is

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01:46:10.319 --> 01:46:13.960
<v Speaker 2>anything bad, it is that you know that that is

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01:46:14.319 --> 01:46:19.079
<v Speaker 2>horrible because you are murdering people's souls in mass like

2171
01:46:19.239 --> 01:46:22.319
<v Speaker 2>and causing confusion and making them feel But isn't that

2172
01:46:22.399 --> 01:46:25.279
<v Speaker 2>how it's always been. Mystics and heretics have been burnt

2173
01:46:25.279 --> 01:46:28.159
<v Speaker 2>at the stake. The Cathars were burnt because they said, what, oh,

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01:46:28.239 --> 01:46:29.680
<v Speaker 2>you find the divine within, you.

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01:46:29.680 --> 01:46:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Don't need.

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01:46:31.479 --> 01:46:34.439
<v Speaker 2>They were and so and told that they were doing

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01:46:34.479 --> 01:46:37.600
<v Speaker 2>satanic stuff and and god knows what they were doing.

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01:46:37.840 --> 01:46:40.319
<v Speaker 2>But no, it's because they were preaching something that the

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01:46:40.319 --> 01:46:43.640
<v Speaker 2>powers that be refused to let out there, which is,

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01:46:44.119 --> 01:46:50.079
<v Speaker 2>you have the power all along The answers are inside.

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01:46:50.359 --> 01:46:51.119
<v Speaker 4>Along the way.

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01:46:51.359 --> 01:46:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just a joke between.

2183
01:46:55.479 --> 01:46:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Journey, but it is that though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I agree, I'm right there with you. I'm

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01:47:02.199 --> 01:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>right there with you. I think that is a beautiful

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01:47:04.560 --> 01:47:05.039
<v Speaker 1>place to end.

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01:47:05.119 --> 01:47:06.439
<v Speaker 5>I was just about to say, I can't think of

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01:47:06.439 --> 01:47:08.199
<v Speaker 5>a better culminating.

2189
01:47:07.920 --> 01:47:10.079
<v Speaker 1>No, honestly, And I know that if we don't end,

2190
01:47:10.439 --> 01:47:10.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, oh.

2191
01:47:10.880 --> 01:47:11.800
<v Speaker 2>We'll be here all day.

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01:47:11.960 --> 01:47:13.560
<v Speaker 1>You'd take a sip of that tea and then you'd

2193
01:47:13.560 --> 01:47:18.560
<v Speaker 1>go riding out to the sunset.

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01:47:16.520 --> 01:47:18.039
<v Speaker 5>Wine and this mug guys, because.

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01:47:19.319 --> 01:47:20.880
<v Speaker 2>It was tea. I promise.

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01:47:21.039 --> 01:47:23.159
<v Speaker 1>I do have to talk about something coming up real quick.

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01:47:23.159 --> 01:47:25.479
<v Speaker 1>If you don't mind and then we will plug our

2198
01:47:25.479 --> 01:47:27.439
<v Speaker 1>stuff and we'll get out of here. So let me

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<v Speaker 1>get the dates right here. From May third to May fourth,

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01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:36.079
<v Speaker 1>So Friday to uh Sunday, I will be in Wisconsin

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<v Speaker 1>at the Contact Modalities Expo, and Dad and I are

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01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:42.680
<v Speaker 1>going to be special guests there. My dad is the

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01:47:42.720 --> 01:47:46.359
<v Speaker 1>keynote speaker. On Friday night, there's going to be a SkyWatch.

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01:47:46.560 --> 01:47:49.000
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be super awesome. It's like a ten

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01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:51.039
<v Speaker 1>dollars feet to the venue. We are not taking that,

2206
01:47:51.079 --> 01:47:53.560
<v Speaker 1>we are just participating in the event. We are you know,

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01:47:53.640 --> 01:47:57.159
<v Speaker 1>they are hosting it for us. Super awesome. And I

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01:47:57.159 --> 01:47:59.680
<v Speaker 1>think Saturday there's going to be like a cocktail party

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01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:03.560
<v Speaker 1>with a d and all kinds of like conference rooms.

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01:48:03.600 --> 01:48:06.119
<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be three rooms going simultaneously with all these

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01:48:06.119 --> 01:48:08.399
<v Speaker 1>different people there. There's like twenty or thirty different expo

2212
01:48:08.800 --> 01:48:15.680
<v Speaker 1>participators like shamans and breathwork experts and holistic awesome stuff.

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01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's gonna be really really cool. And then

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01:48:17.880 --> 01:48:21.159
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday there's gonna be a live panel and people

2215
01:48:21.159 --> 01:48:24.399
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be like answering questions about UFOs and all

2216
01:48:24.399 --> 01:48:26.239
<v Speaker 1>this kinds of stuff. But it's gonna be super awesome

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01:48:26.399 --> 01:48:30.760
<v Speaker 1>May third to May no. May second to May fourth

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01:48:30.920 --> 01:48:36.920
<v Speaker 1>in Wisconsin. Contact Modalities Expo dot com, XPO for Xpo

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01:48:37.159 --> 01:48:42.439
<v Speaker 1>so Contactmodalities Xpo dot com and Molly, can you please

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01:48:42.600 --> 01:48:45.239
<v Speaker 1>let people know where to find your stuff? You've been

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01:48:45.239 --> 01:48:47.479
<v Speaker 1>so wonderful what you are an amazing guest, You're an

2222
01:48:47.479 --> 01:48:51.319
<v Speaker 1>even better friend. I would be so happy if people

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01:48:51.319 --> 01:48:54.119
<v Speaker 1>would flock to your channels and show you some love.

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01:48:54.199 --> 01:48:56.239
<v Speaker 1>So please direct them where to go.

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01:48:56.560 --> 01:48:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I would love that too. Please come come listen. I

2226
01:48:59.680 --> 01:49:03.840
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of content. I am less spicy on

2227
01:49:03.880 --> 01:49:06.560
<v Speaker 2>my podcast than I was in this interview. I will say,

2228
01:49:07.399 --> 01:49:09.760
<v Speaker 2>but you'll the best part about my podcast is I

2229
01:49:09.800 --> 01:49:11.560
<v Speaker 2>just like let little bits of it out and you'll

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01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:15.199
<v Speaker 2>do it, you know. I just yeah, just like a

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01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:20.479
<v Speaker 2>little judgment, do you know, just you I have?

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01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I have.

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01:49:21.399 --> 01:49:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I do, Like sometimes you need to just say what.

2234
01:49:23.760 --> 01:49:25.479
<v Speaker 1>It is right for your homies.

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01:49:25.640 --> 01:49:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I do. I do.

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01:49:27.079 --> 01:49:27.960
<v Speaker 5>That is the truth.

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01:49:28.359 --> 01:49:30.399
<v Speaker 2>I am very proud of the say like, if you're

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01:49:30.439 --> 01:49:33.199
<v Speaker 2>my friend, like I will be defending you. You know.

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01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:35.920
<v Speaker 2>That's I feel very strongly about the people that I

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01:49:35.960 --> 01:49:39.159
<v Speaker 2>care about. But you can find my work at back

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01:49:39.159 --> 01:49:42.840
<v Speaker 2>from the Borderline dot com. Everything that is there for you.

2242
01:49:42.840 --> 01:49:44.760
<v Speaker 2>You can go listen to my podcast. You can listen

2243
01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:47.039
<v Speaker 2>to other interviews. Even the interview that I did with

2244
01:49:47.119 --> 01:49:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Ryan is on there. So if you want to just

2245
01:49:48.880 --> 01:49:50.439
<v Speaker 2>go back from the Borderline dot Com and want to

2246
01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:52.479
<v Speaker 2>see our first interview, I have that linked on there.

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01:49:53.039 --> 01:49:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I have my Amazon book recommendation list. I must say

2248
01:49:56.880 --> 01:50:00.239
<v Speaker 2>is a hot commodity for people. When I say, I

2249
01:50:00.279 --> 01:50:02.079
<v Speaker 2>have like hundreds of books on there. So if you're

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01:50:02.079 --> 01:50:05.039
<v Speaker 2>a nerd and you want to go down these rabbit holes,

2251
01:50:05.279 --> 01:50:08.319
<v Speaker 2>just go to my Amazon book recommendation list and like

2252
01:50:08.399 --> 01:50:11.119
<v Speaker 2>go on the spirituality books and just have fun. You know,

2253
01:50:11.279 --> 01:50:14.920
<v Speaker 2>there's so many books that I've collected and curated on

2254
01:50:14.960 --> 01:50:16.319
<v Speaker 2>there over the years. And then you know, if you

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01:50:16.319 --> 01:50:18.640
<v Speaker 2>want to follow me on Instagram, you can go there

2256
01:50:18.680 --> 01:50:21.119
<v Speaker 2>too and they'll If you just want memes, I got

2257
01:50:21.119 --> 01:50:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that for you as well.

2258
01:50:25.439 --> 01:50:26.199
<v Speaker 1>I got memes.

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01:50:26.279 --> 01:50:28.079
<v Speaker 2>So just go to back from the Borderline dot Com

2260
01:50:28.079 --> 01:50:31.119
<v Speaker 2>and you can do whatever you know. In this podcast,

2261
01:50:32.840 --> 01:50:36.560
<v Speaker 2>it is yeah, yellow, don't follow me, don't follow me

2262
01:50:36.600 --> 01:50:38.600
<v Speaker 2>on X and because I'm locked out, and so if

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01:50:38.600 --> 01:50:41.359
<v Speaker 2>you're tweeting me on X sorry or zeeding me, I

2264
01:50:41.359 --> 01:50:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I have a lurker Twitter account, x x

2265
01:50:47.600 --> 01:50:52.079
<v Speaker 2>account that it's my secret that I z it on,

2266
01:50:53.319 --> 01:50:55.239
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not in my official ones. I don't even

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01:50:55.239 --> 01:50:59.640
<v Speaker 2>know how to get back in there. So I'll get

2268
01:50:59.680 --> 01:51:03.079
<v Speaker 2>in there and people will be talking zeeding ship on me,

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01:51:03.359 --> 01:51:07.560
<v Speaker 2>so I can't see it.

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01:51:08.920 --> 01:51:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Wows. No, that's cool because you're all powerful on Instagram.

2271
01:51:13.079 --> 01:51:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It's it's my I feel like I'm growing fast.

2272
01:51:16.119 --> 01:51:18.520
<v Speaker 2>You just got to pick a social media I can't.

2273
01:51:18.600 --> 01:51:21.399
<v Speaker 2>I literally could not do TikTok this that. I don't

2274
01:51:21.399 --> 01:51:23.359
<v Speaker 2>know how people do it. I feel like I had

2275
01:51:23.359 --> 01:51:25.840
<v Speaker 2>to pick one and then that's all I can manage.

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01:51:26.039 --> 01:51:30.279
<v Speaker 2>It's just so memes, that's all right.

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01:51:30.399 --> 01:51:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Do you happen to remember how we wrap it up

2278
01:51:33.039 --> 01:51:36.399
<v Speaker 1>at all? We just say bye guys at the camera.

2279
01:51:36.439 --> 01:51:37.800
<v Speaker 1>It's really nothing crazy.

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01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:39.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh you're talking to me.

2281
01:51:40.079 --> 01:51:44.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you remember how No, no, no, he remembers.

2282
01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:46.920
<v Speaker 4>I think you started it. I think so.

2283
01:51:47.199 --> 01:51:49.079
<v Speaker 1>I think it was the like second episode or something,

2284
01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:50.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe the third.

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01:51:50.359 --> 01:51:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's got nick. Do you know like what?

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01:51:52.840 --> 01:51:55.239
<v Speaker 4>I have no idea, no clue. I don't know where

2287
01:51:55.279 --> 01:51:56.560
<v Speaker 4>I am even right now.

2288
01:51:58.520 --> 01:51:59.960
<v Speaker 2>He's already playing a video.

2289
01:51:59.800 --> 01:52:01.439
<v Speaker 4>Game after I am Minecraft.

2290
01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Look at you playing Minecraft.

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01:52:04.439 --> 01:52:05.800
<v Speaker 2>He's like, He's like, sorry, what.

2292
01:52:05.800 --> 01:52:09.319
<v Speaker 1>I got play a Marvel tonight. But on a real note,

2293
01:52:10.479 --> 01:52:13.439
<v Speaker 1>ready whenever you are three two one. We love you,

2294
01:52:13.479 --> 01:52:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Molly Bye.

2295
01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:19.760
<v Speaker 4>Guys, by guys, what up bomies.

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<v Speaker 1>If you like the show and want more, check out

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