Speaker 1: You see, something's going to happen?
Speaker 2: What? What's going to happen?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode, we got a
Speaker 4: very very very special guest, somebody I'm really excited to
Speaker 4: get on the show and somebody I was lucky enough
Speaker 4: to personally meet at the Cosmic Summit with Tyrone. But
Speaker 4: until we get to that guest, uh, we're going to
Speaker 4: introduce the other rejects that are on the show, and
Speaker 4: we got with us Sorrow. What is going on? Saraw
Speaker 4: from Universe Unveiled? How's it going?
Speaker 3: Hey? Hey, how's everyone doing? I'm glad to be here again.
Speaker 3: We actually covered the go Bickley Tippy statue yesterday on
Speaker 3: our news segment, so I'm so excited to hear about
Speaker 3: it from someone who knows more about it than I do.
Speaker 2: So I'm Sarah.
Speaker 3: I'm director of public relations for Institute for Natural Philosophy
Speaker 3: and co host of Universal Unveiled podcast and looking forward
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So am I very much loving good to this and
Speaker 4: thank you very much for joining us. And we got
Speaker 4: Tyroll of course, you got Tyrol. What is going on?
Speaker 1: Sir?
Speaker 2: I will you what's up? Everybody? What's up? Dan Donkeyan,
Speaker 2: he is glad to see you again.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: I know you be on the move and you're busy, man.
Speaker 7: So appreciate you for being here with us today, and
Speaker 7: thanks Nick for letting me be here with you guys.
Speaker 2: Also, and fellow rejects. What's going on, Ethan?
Speaker 7: I love your man, so he's going to talk about
Speaker 7: that when he comes up here to promote himself. But
Speaker 7: everything you can find on me is on my website,
Speaker 7: Rebirth of theWord dot com. And my book Journey through
Speaker 7: the Origins of History is on Amazon. You can get
Speaker 7: that best selling copy on there. Thank you appreciate it,
Speaker 7: of course.
Speaker 4: Thank you for making it man, I appreciate it. And
Speaker 4: we got my boy Athan Indigo. How goes it, sir?
Speaker 8: Thank you Nick for putting this together. Everyone. Always honored
Speaker 8: to be with you guys and learn from you. Yeah,
Speaker 8: author of a few books and really looking forward to
Speaker 8: uh hear what you have to say about Kobuki tapy,
Speaker 8: ground baking, groundbreaking topic, right, So appreciate you, appreciate everybody.
Speaker 4: Of course I appreciate you making it, sir. And we
Speaker 4: got my man, the storyteller himself, Robbie Marx. What is
Speaker 4: going on sir.
Speaker 6: Hello everyone, I am Robbie Marx. I'm an artist, illustrator,
Speaker 6: researcher currently writing a book on Nimrod. And if you
Speaker 6: want to check out my stuff as far as my
Speaker 6: art or even my podcast and Metal Mind Cast, you
Speaker 6: can check out my link tree which is link tree
Speaker 6: r M A r X.
Speaker 4: Thanks Nick, awesome, awesome, Thank you very much for making it, sir.
Speaker 4: Definitely go check out his work. And last one, not
Speaker 4: least for the people joining us here with Dan and
Speaker 4: we got Doc Brown. He made it. I was ninety
Speaker 4: three percent sure he was going to make it in time.
Speaker 9: Ninety three percent.
Speaker 10: Brother was pull in the driveway, glad to be be
Speaker 10: a part of this. And guys that look over me
Speaker 10: and my face is swollen. I just got out of
Speaker 10: the dance, but I wanted to not miss hanging out
Speaker 10: and talking with Dan, so I made it. But for me,
Speaker 10: this lands podcasting where you can consume content. Authored my
Speaker 10: first book, the Epic of Esau, The Birthright and Seed War,
Speaker 10: and I'm just take them to death.
Speaker 9: Be here, guys. I'm excited.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, man, I'm really really glad you're able to
Speaker 4: make it. This guy's little g he just had teeth
Speaker 4: pulled out of his mouth, and he still jumped on us.
Speaker 2: Right here.
Speaker 4: So finally to the man himself, we got Dan Richards
Speaker 4: aka Debunking Dan. Please let everybody know what your deal
Speaker 4: is and what you're about, serf, they don't know who
Speaker 4: you are already.
Speaker 1: Well, hello, thanks for the invite. I really appreciate it's
Speaker 1: great to meet all of you, of those of you
Speaker 1: I haven't met before. My name is Dan Richards. I
Speaker 1: go by D Donkey online. I basically started with a
Speaker 1: lot of fact checking scientists that would debunk Graham Hancock
Speaker 1: and guys like that, where a lot of times they
Speaker 1: just misrepresent science. And I'm pretty big on the scientific method.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty big on it to the point where it's
Speaker 1: I there's no better path to truth. There might be
Speaker 1: other ways to find truth, but there's no better, more
Speaker 1: consistent there's any group of humans to use the science
Speaker 1: it finds learns period in the story. And so when
Speaker 1: I see the scientific method kind of being treated like
Speaker 1: a just like a huge old knock ideas out of
Speaker 1: the platform august off of the it's stupid, it's bullshit.
Speaker 1: So I ended up starting making videos about that, and
Speaker 1: now I just I talk about a lot of different
Speaker 1: things too, from a pretty skeptical point of view a
Speaker 1: lot of the times. I mean, I all entertain things,
Speaker 1: but you're going to take me there. You're we're not
Speaker 1: going from zero from zero to aliens if you and
Speaker 1: you're not going to keep me on board, if you're
Speaker 1: going from zero to aliens, I'll be getting off at
Speaker 1: the first stop.
Speaker 4: No, I think I could say the same thing for
Speaker 4: myself real quick too. Oh you know what, we have
Speaker 4: another I totally forgot we had this guy coming on too,
Speaker 4: and I never sent them the link. So before we
Speaker 4: get into a trantant, you just wanted to do yourself
Speaker 4: real quick. I'm I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I Bennett from broadcasting Seeds Podcasts. That's it, man, all right, listen,
Speaker 5: I'm glad i'm here. Thanks for inviting me, of course, everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So Dan, the one thing I have to
Speaker 4: say I do like about you. Well, I mean, back
Speaker 4: in the day you used to talk a lot more
Speaker 4: shit online. You seem to have me beat on that.
Speaker 4: It's it's quite funny reading some of your posts.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks, I take less time on Twitter than I
Speaker 1: used to. But yeah, I basically I mean I hate
Speaker 1: to be so simplistic about it, but when it comes
Speaker 1: to Twitter in particular, it's like there's I basically want
Speaker 1: you into one of two categories real quick. Either you're
Speaker 1: trying to have a real conversation, you're just trying to
Speaker 1: throw shit. If you're trying to throw somebody, I've been
Speaker 1: doing that since the eighties on the bulletin board services.
Speaker 1: You're gonna find your woefully equipped for this discussion.
Speaker 4: Definitely. Yeah, you definitely can throw some shade. It's pretty good.
Speaker 4: All right. So I want to go Blacky, Yeah, go
Speaker 4: go buy uh.
Speaker 1: A big pile of rocks over in Turkey.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it's like oil, we should go take that ship.
Speaker 4: There's some oil under that. We need that ship. You
Speaker 4: guys need some freedom. We're coming.
Speaker 9: People need some freedom, brother, right, that's right.
Speaker 4: You haven't see that egle, that ego meme where it's
Speaker 4: like we heard this, we heard this oil on Jupiter.
Speaker 4: I think we need you guys need some freedom up there. Yeah, so, uh,
Speaker 4: what got you? Uh? I mean, I guess I can
Speaker 4: understand what God you looking into that, But like you know,
Speaker 4: with this whole new statue and everything going on, what
Speaker 4: do you what do you think about that whole site
Speaker 4: in general, what's.
Speaker 1: Going on in general? I mean, it's it's pretty intriguing.
Speaker 1: I think Graham Hancock has a pretty decent hypothesis that
Speaker 1: it was like a place where they were a transference
Speaker 1: of knowledge was taking place. I'd take it a step
Speaker 1: further than Go Beckley Teppe. But when Graham first formed
Speaker 1: his hypothesis, that was really all that there was known of.
Speaker 1: But there's a whole taest Teplar however you pronounce on
Speaker 1: tense test tepelar culture that was all over that part
Speaker 1: of Anatolia, and different areas have very different things, but
Speaker 1: it's all innovative. That's the first thing that's of note
Speaker 1: to me is that everything you see there is just
Speaker 1: it's not just a little bit. It's a huge fucking
Speaker 1: step above everything else that you see in the region.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, well, we see this built up. You'll
Speaker 1: see a pile of stones laid out in a circle
Speaker 1: somewhere that was meant to and form a little enclosure
Speaker 1: so that they could build a platform to keep grain
Speaker 1: off the floor, to keep the rats out of it.
Speaker 1: But you compare that to what you see at Go
Speaker 1: Beckley tape or car on tape as feel those other sites,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's not even close. There's a ton
Speaker 1: of symbolism here. I honestly think go Beckley Tepe. You know,
Speaker 1: when archaeologists say that they only excavate a small percentage
Speaker 1: of a site, that is true. But I think Go
Speaker 1: Beckley Tepe is one of the ones that's a good
Speaker 1: candidate for pushing for total excavation, just because of the
Speaker 1: huge variation in symbols that we see and at the
Speaker 1: time in our human history that it is. Even if
Speaker 1: you look at it from just a mainstream perspective, there's
Speaker 1: a very good chance that that's the beginning of written
Speaker 1: language over those pillars. But we're never going to discern shit.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just ask a code breaker to figure
Speaker 1: out a code with only ten characters out of two hundred,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna laugh at you. So we're never going
Speaker 1: to figure it out if we don't dig more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you think so, you think language, the first rate language,
Speaker 4: came from there.
Speaker 1: I think that there's a very good chance that the
Speaker 1: first written language, at least in modern times. I mean,
Speaker 1: when all those different there's all those different animals and
Speaker 1: they're quite often, Like have you seen the work of
Speaker 1: Martin Sweatman on the calendar on pillar forty three? I'm
Speaker 1: sure some of you here on YouTube, yeah, doctor Martin Sweatman. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He talks about pillar forty three on go Beckley Tepe
Speaker 1: and how it's a calendar, and he goes into some
Speaker 1: pretty good details to show you what the different marks
Speaker 1: could mean. And there's a lot of that kind of
Speaker 1: thing where you have not just a snake, but you
Speaker 1: have this motif of snakes going down together all across
Speaker 1: the side of a pillar, and then it doesn't happen
Speaker 1: again on any other pillar for five enclosures, and then
Speaker 1: it happens again on another one more pillar. These kinds
Speaker 1: of things to me, they don't seem random or haphazard,
Speaker 1: And just like you know some kid picking designs in
Speaker 1: different places, they're most likely had some meaning and we
Speaker 1: can either be lazy about it and say, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's probably ritualistic or symbolic or something, or we could
Speaker 1: try to suss what it meant. And you know, one
Speaker 1: of those sounds like actual work, and one of those,
Speaker 1: you know you talk about on YouTube a whole lot easier.
Speaker 1: Check out those cool fucking pictures. Right, look at that animal,
Speaker 1: but we're not getting anywhere with that.
Speaker 10: Have you looked into Louvian anagrams. I'm friends with doctor
Speaker 10: jud Burton and doctor Aaron Jenkins. They wrote a book
Speaker 10: on that called The Coding go beck Ley, and he
Speaker 10: was saying that a lot of those markings look like Luvian,
Speaker 10: like Luvian anagrams or something like that.
Speaker 9: No, I'm saying that, right.
Speaker 1: No, I have. I've that book for on my radar,
Speaker 1: but I haven't read it yet. But no, that would
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense. I mean there's you know,
Speaker 1: there's a ton of symbol that we see. Look at
Speaker 1: if you look at just the statues at the moai
Speaker 1: at Eastern Island, and the way the hands on those
Speaker 1: and the hands on the big tea pillars are. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's you know, you have to kind of try to
Speaker 1: deny that there's some sort of connection there. So I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if again, I personally think it was
Speaker 1: a good chance it It is a transference point of
Speaker 1: technology that whole region, So I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: we see symbolism there that spread throughout the world, which
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways we do that naval holding statue.
Speaker 1: If you look, you'll see those in Sardinia, in the
Speaker 1: New World, even all across the world, you'll see those
Speaker 1: guys with their hands on their tummy, and generally it
Speaker 1: shows up with the advent of either agriculture and or metallurgy.
Speaker 1: Big shout out to Graham Langdon for his book Who
Speaker 1: was This Mystery of the they were holding statues and
Speaker 1: they were holding idols. It's on Amazon and it is
Speaker 1: It is a book worth reading. I don't usually promote
Speaker 1: people's stuff without giving me money, but I'll promote that one.
Speaker 1: You'll me money, Graham.
Speaker 7: That's interesting, you say metallurgy because I promote this and
Speaker 7: talk about this a lot. Anton Parks has this book
Speaker 7: called Eden and in this book and I promoted it
Speaker 7: on Twitter x plenty of times, and he says that, Okay,
Speaker 7: you know, I'm very familiar with the Sumerians, and you
Speaker 7: know I'm very familiar. I don't believe the you know,
Speaker 7: the I'm coming from planet Nepro type bullshit, but it
Speaker 7: does says in there that Inky gave knowledge to what
Speaker 7: is known as eve right, and the knowledge that was
Speaker 7: given was metallurgy. That's what the forbidden Fruit was representing,
Speaker 7: because it was for good and evil, the tree of good,
Speaker 7: you know, tree of knowledge and stuff like that, and
Speaker 7: it was for metallurgy for agriculture. And he talks about
Speaker 7: exactly what cuneiform tablet says it the cuneiform tabt identifiers.
Speaker 7: I think, like one of them is like CBS eighty
Speaker 7: three eighty three or something like that. But I have
Speaker 7: it on next I can bring it up, but it's
Speaker 7: on there. And he compares it to what's written next
Speaker 7: to the Bible and Eno, because you know, in the
Speaker 7: Book of Eno, Get talks about how you know, these
Speaker 7: fallen angels gave knowledge and metal and certain stuff to humans.
Speaker 7: But then the kicker comes into whether they were following
Speaker 7: angels that came from heaven or where they came from,
Speaker 7: you know, somewhere else. And it's interesting because the metallurgy,
Speaker 7: when you look across all civilizations around the world, metallurgy
Speaker 7: is a big part. Whether it's bronze, copper, ten, you know,
Speaker 7: it doesn't matter, and symbolically it means something to them.
Speaker 2: And just like you said, you know, go back to
Speaker 2: the tepee.
Speaker 7: You know, there's a type of technology and I like
Speaker 7: the way you said technology.
Speaker 2: So I always try to wonder, what what is.
Speaker 7: Your explanation of what type of what kind of advanced
Speaker 7: technology they might have had, because you know when people
Speaker 7: say technology, they I consider you know, advanced technology being
Speaker 7: going from throwing rocks at animals to kill in them
Speaker 7: to creating a bowl and arrow and bow and arrow
Speaker 7: would be an advanced type of technology versus the throwing
Speaker 7: the rock portion. So what is your idea of a
Speaker 7: technology and fast the realm of those people who were
Speaker 7: you know at that time.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're talking about people that were presumably pretty
Speaker 1: good with boats, right, I mean if they rowed out
Speaker 1: the flood, they would have had to have known something
Speaker 1: about it, so they would have an idea of how
Speaker 1: to use like ropes and rigging. Potentially they would definitely
Speaker 1: know how to use the stars to navigate. They would
Speaker 1: be really good at teamwork. These are all things that
Speaker 1: we see on sailing vessels that are low tached. I mean,
Speaker 1: this isn't like it's complicated to do any of those,
Speaker 1: but those skill sets put together would immediately like transfer
Speaker 1: to being able to move some pretty big rocks and
Speaker 1: align them to stars, And that wouldn't be difficult at
Speaker 1: all for a culture that was used to having these
Speaker 1: guys pull ropes together to raise the sail or to
Speaker 1: do this or to do that. It wouldn't be very
Speaker 1: difficult at all to have them work together to raise
Speaker 1: a big rock and align it to the star that
Speaker 1: you follow when you at sea. So I think that
Speaker 1: right there would be a big part of it. I
Speaker 1: also think that that sailing necessitates a degree of a
Speaker 1: transference of knowledge to another generation. If you look at Polynesians,
Speaker 1: they've got these little goofy things what they do with sticks,
Speaker 1: where the kids will weave sticks together to make these
Speaker 1: little little cross shaped things. At what they are is
Speaker 1: the representation of waves on how they break off of islands,
Speaker 1: so that each one of these sticks represents little things.
Speaker 1: It's just a way for them to hand their kid
Speaker 1: their knowledge. And then over time you would presumably these
Speaker 1: things would change a little bit as people would learn
Speaker 1: new things, so that right off the bat, I think
Speaker 1: that they would have, you know, they would want to
Speaker 1: have some sort of way to write, some sort of
Speaker 1: way to transfer their knowledge to the next generation. And
Speaker 1: I also I wouldn't be surprised at all if they
Speaker 1: were really good with basic tuber food stuffs. If you
Speaker 1: look at again, Polynesians when they settle someplace, they don't
Speaker 1: show up with a damn thing that if they can't
Speaker 1: sit it, just throw it next to them on the
Speaker 1: bottom of the boat and ride out the voyage. They
Speaker 1: don't take it. And almost almost everything they eat is
Speaker 1: a tuber as far as what they bring with them
Speaker 1: to a new land. And so I personally think that
Speaker 1: we could look to that for some idea of what
Speaker 1: we could expect to see from go Beckley Teppe. I'm
Speaker 1: not a big fan of like ancient high technology myself.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, when it comes to metallurgy,
Speaker 1: like if you look at the copper culture in the
Speaker 1: United States near the Great Lakes region, they would have
Speaker 1: some copper that they would would get off of the
Speaker 1: ground that was just like ninety five percent pure, and
Speaker 1: it was just huge, huge, like the size of an
Speaker 1: automobile chunk of copper. So eventually they run out and
Speaker 1: they're mining, and eventually that's not giving them anything well,
Speaker 1: and so then by the time the white people show
Speaker 1: up over here that they're almost not using them anymore.
Speaker 1: They're almost not even using copper anymore, right, they're using
Speaker 1: needles and trinkets, and it wouldn't It doesn't take a
Speaker 1: lot of imagination to think, imagine to see that that
Speaker 1: culture being considered more godlike than the people that came
Speaker 1: a thousand years later. They had weapon I mean, they
Speaker 1: had fucking swords right made out of copper. I mean
Speaker 1: you compare that to one made out of stick or stone,
Speaker 1: and it's a far cry. So you can imagine that
Speaker 1: happening in other places in the world. You can imagine
Speaker 1: a place where they were able to mine a bunch
Speaker 1: of metal and it didn't need smelting, and so some
Speaker 1: pretty low tech solutions to some of these problems. Like
Speaker 1: I said earlier, I take baby steps to get where I'm.
Speaker 6: Going, And you see a lot of copper axes in
Speaker 6: Grecian and more Egyptian kind of you know, is that
Speaker 6: kind of traversed through there. But what I was going
Speaker 6: to say is I ran into some old Persian texts
Speaker 6: where they talk about the original fall of mankind and
Speaker 6: they talk about basically Adam taking or the character that
Speaker 6: you know is represented by Adam taking sacred rocks from
Speaker 6: either five or six different mountains and then compiling them
Speaker 6: and basically making the first hinge. So when you get
Speaker 6: into these hinges and looking at go Begley Tepe in
Speaker 6: regard to the different characters, and you see the scorpion
Speaker 6: and the vulture and all the you know, to a
Speaker 6: great extent, you know, we have to philosophize that this
Speaker 6: is some sort of an astral calendar possibly, yeah, right
Speaker 6: right to the dog star, Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: The doctor Martin Sweatman's uh description of pillar forty three
Speaker 1: is really good. Where it's it builds off of scorp
Speaker 1: the scorpion that's on it and builds uses that as Scorpio,
Speaker 1: and then it uh takes the vulture as Sagittarius, which
Speaker 1: does work. It's stretched out in the same position. It
Speaker 1: puts the sun as the little ball there and then
Speaker 1: from there it's able to discern. He's he's able to
Speaker 1: discern different ideas. I mean, his hypothesis is met with
Speaker 1: a lot of opposition, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it does fit. It does fit where that would be
Speaker 1: potentially a marker of a certain date. Now, a lot
Speaker 1: of times I think these guys like Martin Sweatman, he
Speaker 1: gets kind of caught up in the whole uh they're
Speaker 1: trying to warn the future about it. And I don't
Speaker 1: think it's so much they're trying to warn the future.
Speaker 1: I think that people get they get that backwards. That's
Speaker 1: a science, a scientist looking at that thing. The motivations
Speaker 1: for putting a time capsule into the ground are the
Speaker 1: same type of motivations, I think. And it ain't got
Speaker 1: nothing to do with I'm going to send a message
Speaker 1: to the future. It's man, they're going to want to
Speaker 1: know what we were doing back in those back in
Speaker 1: these days because we're fucking important. Man. It's our generation
Speaker 1: is going to be the last one that the world
Speaker 1: yea presentation every generation, Yes, exactly, they're gonna want to know.
Speaker 7: It's that's what all these podcasts and people writing the
Speaker 7: books and ship it's going to do. You know, if
Speaker 7: you travel in thousands of light years, you've got plenty
Speaker 7: of time that you know.
Speaker 3: Time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty well when you think about the it's
Speaker 1: pretty well when you think about the way that all
Speaker 1: of this is gets put together in different minds, and
Speaker 1: like some people see things in entirely different ways than
Speaker 1: other people. And that's one of the reasons that I
Speaker 1: think it's really important that we don't reject other ideas
Speaker 1: out of hand because it really takes one person. I mean,
Speaker 1: it takes one person and then people building on it.
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, But you know, Einstein comes up
Speaker 1: with the theory of relativity, and it's so counterintuitive that
Speaker 1: most people can't even wrap their head around it at
Speaker 1: first until he has it to them in a form
Speaker 1: of a real simple equation. And that real simple equation
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do a goddamn thing. It had nothing to
Speaker 1: do with what almost nothing to do with what happened
Speaker 1: in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Einstein has that great quote of
Speaker 1: it's like five or six years later and he says
Speaker 1: that the theory of relativity is almost unrecognizable to me.
Speaker 1: Now the mathematicians have gotten hold of it, they start
Speaker 1: beating it out and started, well, it's actually not not
Speaker 1: actually this number exactly we need to When they start
Speaker 1: doing that, that's when you get the real complicated the
Speaker 1: abilities to split at him. So it takes that dreamer,
Speaker 1: that person to come up with this avant garde idea
Speaker 1: that's so fucking goofy. The germ disease theory with Louis
Speaker 1: Pasteur as opposed to the four humors. Yeah, everybody else
Speaker 1: thinks you just got to raise and lower the amount
Speaker 1: of blood and bile and shit in somebody. And he's like, no, man,
Speaker 1: there's just these invisible bugs. I mean, people laughed at
Speaker 1: they mocked him heavily. You're stupid invisible bugs. All was
Speaker 1: like ghosts doing it too. But Dallas, so it's really
Speaker 1: important to me. I think that these different theories get entertained,
Speaker 1: even if some of them to me, like like Christopher
Speaker 1: Donees a great example. I think a lot of his
Speaker 1: theories are really interesting, but I think he's he's way
Speaker 1: too into high technology for me, way too into high
Speaker 1: technology for me. But I still listen to what he
Speaker 1: has to say. I like the guys. I talked to
Speaker 1: him fairly regularly, even sent me all of his books
Speaker 1: to read and stuff, and which I've read about half
Speaker 1: of it, half of the second one after and the
Speaker 1: first one all the way through. I've read about half
Speaker 1: of the three so far. But yeah, it's so to me.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the biggest things that we
Speaker 1: see bad in the archaeological community. And as much as
Speaker 1: they try to tell us that science learns from its mistakes.
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw this with Clovis First, and we
Speaker 1: saw this before. Not a lot of people know that,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure most of you are aware of the
Speaker 1: Clovis First debacle where they.
Speaker 7: Yeah, live right there in Savannah. They right out there. Man,
Speaker 7: there's a private land out there.
Speaker 2: There's Clovis Land.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, there's the They say about twelve thousand years ago.
Speaker 1: Twelve thousand BC's will be like fourteen thousand years ago.
Speaker 1: I guess that they were coming over on the varying
Speaker 1: land Bridge with the first Americans. And that was Anybody
Speaker 1: who presented evidence against that hypothesis. Anything older than around
Speaker 1: twelve fourteen thousand years was just categorically rejected as bullshit
Speaker 1: and fought tooth and nail, to the point where an
Speaker 1: archaeologist that was in God damn it, where was he at?
Speaker 1: He was down in South America somewhere, and he was, Oh,
Speaker 1: come on, Monte Verde, where is this side at? I'm
Speaker 1: drawing a big blank now, but anyway, he's down there
Speaker 1: during Pinochet and all that crazy shit Chile. He's down
Speaker 1: there during Pinochet. And one of his colleagues contacted the
Speaker 1: local newspaper and said that the whole site of monte
Speaker 1: Verde was a CIA plant to put him and his
Speaker 1: family down there, and it's like threatening his family with
Speaker 1: the fucking dictator over science. And this was they Eventually
Speaker 1: this was all put to bed. Monte Verde. That site
Speaker 1: proved it wrong. That scientist Tom Dillay, he was proven right.
Speaker 1: He was the guy that fought tooth and nail and
Speaker 1: got it won. But just about fifty years before all
Speaker 1: that shit was going down, there was the whole Fulsome
Speaker 1: First was the hypothesis if you push the people into
Speaker 1: the America's back around more than five thousand years outside
Speaker 1: of the Fulsome culture, you were full of shit, You
Speaker 1: were crazy, and you could expect to be rejected by archaeology.
Speaker 1: So they just don't learn, they haven't fucking figured out
Speaker 1: yet that what they're doing is anti sien. It's one
Speaker 1: thing to be skeptical, it's another thing to be cynical.
Speaker 1: That I don't know a better way of putting it
Speaker 1: than that.
Speaker 7: That's crazy that you said about the fourteen thousand years
Speaker 7: ago thing, because we hear in Georgia, Serah knows about it.
Speaker 7: We have these places called Moogi mounds, and when you
Speaker 7: walk into a Gomogi Mound museum. They literally have pictures
Speaker 7: that says different dates of time periods, and one of
Speaker 7: the pictures says seventeen thousand years ago. So and this
Speaker 7: is supposed but they considered them people the Mississippian period.
Speaker 7: But you know, the Mississippi period came much later than that.
Speaker 7: It's just that the culture or the group of people
Speaker 7: was inhabiting Atlanta since most seventeen thousand years ago.
Speaker 1: So oka ahead, Oh no, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: So it's just interesting that everybody has these dates. You know,
Speaker 7: you get one date for one thing over here, another date,
Speaker 7: and you can tell when they use in these days
Speaker 7: because they're trying to fit that date to match their narrative.
Speaker 7: That's what they're trying to do. They're not taking they
Speaker 7: don't want their narrative to be taken. This is one
Speaker 7: thing that I hate. I hate when people say a
Speaker 7: theory and then they can't change their theory to make
Speaker 7: it better. That's why some of these damn cars is
Speaker 7: running away. They running nowadays.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. People don't know how to
Speaker 7: sit here and say okay, look all right, we.
Speaker 2: Know this doesn't work. It's a theory that it was
Speaker 2: supposed to work, but it's not going to work this way,
Speaker 2: so we have to change it up.
Speaker 7: And you know, you know, radiocarbon they have you know,
Speaker 7: they always have this threshold of you know, it could
Speaker 7: be one hundred years or a thousand years, you know,
Speaker 7: so what are you what evidence that are you using
Speaker 7: to make you pick that specific date instead of any
Speaker 7: other date. And that's the questions that I like that
Speaker 7: you are personal narrative, Yeah, exactly, because that's that's the
Speaker 7: kind of questions that that Dan be asking and Grandma
Speaker 7: is asking also personally, and that's what I'd be wondering too,
Speaker 7: And I'd be like, Okay, you say two hundred years,
Speaker 7: So why is it two hundred years ago versus seven
Speaker 7: hundred years ago? Why is the radio carbon? Why are
Speaker 7: you picking a two hundred rather than the seven hundred?
Speaker 7: What more evidence that you've got that's two hundred versus
Speaker 7: the seven hundred?
Speaker 2: And those are answers that we don't ever get.
Speaker 1: No, Well, a lot of times it comes down to
Speaker 1: a difference in motivations, Like you're talking about a museum
Speaker 1: that is presumably heavily influenced, if not outright owned by
Speaker 1: the tribes and depending on the part of the country
Speaker 1: you're and it can really blow somebody's minds because like
Speaker 1: the tribes over here, for example, they're strong, and I
Speaker 1: don't mean strong. They have casinos that are tax free
Speaker 1: and they've had them for over twenty years. They're fucking rich,
Speaker 1: they're filthy, fucking rich. And if they challenge you want to.
Speaker 1: They'll challenge a site and say we've found an arrowhead.
Speaker 1: Well we think that's a grave good. Well technically it's
Speaker 1: not a grave good. But they'll tie your ass up
Speaker 1: in court longer than any archaeologist is going to be
Speaker 1: any institution's going to be able to run with it.
Speaker 1: And so there's a lot of claims to be made
Speaker 1: based on age. Like kennewick Man was about ten thousand
Speaker 1: years old, and he was claimed why the locals the
Speaker 1: callvill tribe, even though he's arguably not a call So
Speaker 1: this way you're going to get those older dates. If
Speaker 1: the dative tribes are involved, they're going to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well history books says twelve thousand years, Better make that
Speaker 1: eighteen thousand, because we want that next pile of bones
Speaker 1: to be ours. And you can't really blame them is
Speaker 1: they've had everything stumped and stolen from them. The only
Speaker 1: thing they have left to pass with their old ways
Speaker 1: to their kids is a little bit of control they
Speaker 1: have over their land. And if I wasn't, indeed, I'd
Speaker 1: be fucked if you were going to take what little
Speaker 1: bit of control I had left from me.
Speaker 7: That's why we have Naccro where it's at right now. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and I know so now yeah, and that's and you
Speaker 7: know what it's going to be like that for a
Speaker 7: lot of history. And you know, sometimes I don't blame
Speaker 7: it because this place is, like I said, I've visited
Speaker 7: a lot of places. I'm more of a boots on
Speaker 7: ground trying to do local history type things. You know,
Speaker 7: I do want to go to Egypt and all those
Speaker 7: other places haven't been there, but eventually I'll make it.
Speaker 7: And there is a place called the Horton House here
Speaker 7: in Georgia, and it's made out of like tabby and
Speaker 7: stuff like that on the coasts and stuff like that's
Speaker 7: on the island and h when you go up there
Speaker 7: and visit, you can see that people are scratching their
Speaker 7: names on the wall. So they're destroying history. You know
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, it's open to the public. Unit you
Speaker 7: don't have to pay no money to go visit it.
Speaker 7: There's no gates, there's no nothing straight on the road.
Speaker 7: It's a historical site. It has a historical marker and everything.
Speaker 7: But as soon as you walk up to you and
Speaker 7: this is on a rich island, mind you. So when
Speaker 7: people say there's a demographic for certain things that happens
Speaker 7: to archaeological sites, that's a bullshit lie, because this is
Speaker 7: a rich island.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: And I'm telling you, you go up there and there's
Speaker 7: one hundred hundreds of scratches on it, you know, people's names, hearts,
Speaker 7: arrows and.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that. I'm like, you destroying history.
Speaker 7: And then you get mad when you get older about
Speaker 7: our age and they don't blocked it all off, fenced
Speaker 7: it off. Nobody can go there and visit. You got
Speaker 7: to pay five dollars. Five dollars to go in there,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. You got paid for the security, this, that,
Speaker 7: and third, and you're done. Make everything works because your
Speaker 7: grandchildren didn't do it, or your parents before you didn't
Speaker 7: do what they were supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a rough one. It goes with that
Speaker 1: psychological thing again. I mean that's I'm scratching my name
Speaker 1: on this rock because a bunch of other people are
Speaker 1: gonna come look at it. Who the funck wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to know who Dan Richards is? Come on, Dan Richards
Speaker 1: was here? Right? That means something kill Roy was here?
Speaker 1: The fuck's Kilroy? But me, come on, everybody's everybody's brain
Speaker 1: does that. It's a fucking byproduct of the human nature.
Speaker 1: I mean, we could sit here and I can look
Speaker 1: at all of you on the screen and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're all feeling great, and one of you has got
Speaker 1: a fucking bad leg and one of your chest is hurt,
Speaker 1: and it's just like we none of us know what
Speaker 1: goes on in somebody else's reality, and so that because
Speaker 1: of that, we end up inherently self centered. And like
Speaker 1: a lot of people say, human nature is so nice,
Speaker 1: and that's such a fucking hippie take. I'm sorry, but like,
Speaker 1: if you empowered every one year old on the planet
Speaker 1: put him in a two hundred and fifty pound bodybuilder's body,
Speaker 1: we would all be fucked. It would all be fucked.
Speaker 1: They would take everything they wanted to beat our asses
Speaker 1: into the ground when we resisted.
Speaker 10: The story was that what you were saying, like the tagging,
Speaker 10: And I didn't realize it until I honestly started reading,
Speaker 10: like four or five years ago. I was never a
Speaker 10: big reader, but so blessed that I actually did because
Speaker 10: there's so.
Speaker 9: Much more information in the books.
Speaker 10: But I was reading the Graham stuff and he was
Speaker 10: talking about the first time that he climbed on top
Speaker 10: of the pyramids and how he had to pay off
Speaker 10: all these guards. He said, it cost him all kinds
Speaker 10: of money. He got halfway up and some more guards
Speaker 10: set him like, way, you know, give us some more money,
Speaker 10: he said. I finally made it up there. He said
Speaker 10: he got to see the sunrise on top. He was
Speaker 10: describing how he felt and everything else. He said, but
Speaker 10: I think it was his father, someone.
Speaker 2: Of his fame.
Speaker 10: Yeah, had went up there and said he carved his
Speaker 10: name and said, so he watched the sunrise. He said
Speaker 10: he remembered that he got to looking and he actually
Speaker 10: found his grandfather's carving on the pyramid.
Speaker 9: So that was pretty awesome them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is pretty cool.
Speaker 5: So, Dan, what's what's been your most surprising thing that
Speaker 5: you've uncovered while researching claims and conspiracies, the most surprising.
Speaker 1: To you, most surprising to me that I uncovered. That's
Speaker 1: a good question. I think, honestly, the thing that blew
Speaker 1: my mind the most is currently would be the way
Speaker 1: that it's either the metal plate in the Great Pyramid
Speaker 1: or uh, the way that's been handled or the way
Speaker 1: that the Peruvian elongated skulls have been handled, either one
Speaker 1: of those kind of just like the metal plate in
Speaker 1: the Great Pyramid was part of Howard Vice's team, it's
Speaker 1: the same group that found the cartousies that the debunkers
Speaker 1: like to throw on everybody's faces and say that this
Speaker 1: proves that Krufu's been built the pyramid. So you get
Speaker 1: debunkers claiming that Howard A. Vice's team lied about the cartouches.
Speaker 1: But then you get the skeptics claiming that Howard advices
Speaker 1: team light about this metal plate because it's an iron
Speaker 1: plate in bronze age. So both sides say that, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't want to trust the scientists there, but you
Speaker 1: do some research and it's like they're actually, you know,
Speaker 1: like about eight hundred miles away and like three hundred
Speaker 1: years after the Great pyramid was said to have been built.
Speaker 1: They find evidence of iron smelting right there, so it's
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not really a stretch to imagine them
Speaker 1: trading some pretty low grade iron to them. But nobody
Speaker 1: put that together. It's just like ill sitting there. And
Speaker 1: as soon as that plate, as soon as that plate
Speaker 1: was basically proven tonight I've been meteoric iron. It was
Speaker 1: just dismissed out of hand, like it was bullshit.
Speaker 5: Didn't fit in narrative that they wanted to tell Tom.
Speaker 1: And even though the answer is mundane if you look,
Speaker 1: but it's nobody wants to do it. And the other one,
Speaker 1: the way that the elongated skulls in Peru were treated,
Speaker 1: I mean that read light like I was reading a
Speaker 1: document that was historically going through the history of it,
Speaker 1: and I felt like I was watching the fucking X Files. Man,
Speaker 1: it was insane, like a scientist is, like I went,
Speaker 1: opened sixty two grave bundles. Each one of those elongated
Speaker 1: skulls comes in this big grave bag, right, a big
Speaker 1: burlap bag, multi tiered textile to store a body inside.
Speaker 1: So these dudes like I went, I opened sixty three
Speaker 1: grave bundles or some such I recorded the contents of
Speaker 1: six and I closed the other ones back up and
Speaker 1: put them back on the shelf, and over and over.
Speaker 1: You see this kind of stuff where it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: they were selling skulls to fucking Oh, come on, Dodge,
Speaker 1: what's the dude to day of the New York the risks.
Speaker 4: A giant skull like dock.
Speaker 1: Rockefeller bought four of them and was the first person
Speaker 1: to invest any money into into this thing. And ever
Speaker 1: since then, every time that these skulls pop up, for
Speaker 1: every time anybody opens the skulls or does anything with them,
Speaker 1: shit gets shady. Like all the way up into the seventies,
Speaker 1: shit was shady. People did they do a public filming
Speaker 1: of them opening a bundle and you can't find that
Speaker 1: video or any reports of what happened, just the fact
Speaker 1: that that did happen and it was public. It's like,
Speaker 1: so the newspaper covered it, looked for these peoper articles.
Speaker 1: Not there. It's like, whoa fucking what the hell? That
Speaker 1: one did? Get me kind of feeling a little a
Speaker 1: little like I was sitting next to aj from the
Speaker 1: WI Files instead of sitting in my basement. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff. Actually that is another one.
Speaker 1: I'm working on it now. I'm working on this. Some
Speaker 1: more elongated skulls. You know, they're they're kind of just
Speaker 1: not spoken of. They're kind of all over the world,
Speaker 1: and they're just kind of absolutely you look into a
Speaker 1: Native American tribe and they may well have been quote
Speaker 1: unquote long heads or flattheads, and you look into it
Speaker 1: and you're like, holy shit, man, nobody ever talks about this.
Speaker 1: It's like you could live right next to it and
Speaker 1: nobody's talking about it, and it's all over the place,
Speaker 1: and it's just weird.
Speaker 5: Africa, there's they've found them everywhere crazy.
Speaker 10: Even this one's a replica from one of the Parrakas schools.
Speaker 10: I take it with me to a lot of the
Speaker 10: conferences and have people sign it. But a lot of people,
Speaker 10: especially like La Marzouli, a bunch of them guys went
Speaker 10: down there and studied these things, did DNA sampling, uh
Speaker 10: and a bunch of these man, they got so many
Speaker 10: denominalies that don't match up to head binding like the
Speaker 10: Satyre Sutra.
Speaker 9: Will be visiting the.
Speaker 10: Eye orbits twenty to thirty percent larger extra set of
Speaker 10: for raven magnums in the back, and that's for the
Speaker 10: arteries and nerve things to compensate for this elongated school.
Speaker 10: So many things that brain case volume and bigger in
Speaker 10: some of those, so many things that a race ye had.
Speaker 6: The structure of the interior as far as the webbing
Speaker 6: of the interiors, I've also seen as different as well.
Speaker 10: Even the mounting because the mount point here is all
Speaker 10: the way at the back. All human schools mount here.
Speaker 10: So even the ones they know that from headbinding doesn't
Speaker 10: change the anchor point. But yeah, these long gates gold me.
Speaker 10: That's something that's really fascinated me, is.
Speaker 7: That the biggest rabbit trails, hey, doc, is that the
Speaker 7: biggest thing is that the anchor point.
Speaker 2: Like forget this the elongates.
Speaker 7: Import part, right, but the anchor part with that change
Speaker 7: a lot more in our mindset of things, like like
Speaker 7: I think it.
Speaker 10: Shows you it's built into the DNA, you know, because
Speaker 10: all the ones that they have that they know are
Speaker 10: from head binding and still doesn't change that anchor point, right, That's.
Speaker 1: What makes What's the problem I joked about that in
Speaker 1: a recent video with the head binding is that you
Speaker 1: just can't like you just can't grab some babies and
Speaker 1: slap wrap their heads. So we need to do is
Speaker 1: like it's just like the foot binding. We need to
Speaker 1: clone some people and then practice both on them. So
Speaker 1: we cut the human rights violations in half, but we still.
Speaker 2: Have knowed out of it.
Speaker 1: Feet and head fucking do it up. But serious, serious,
Speaker 1: like here I got just look here, that's pretty rare one.
Speaker 1: My buddy Sean Mooney lowed me for some research I'm doing,
Speaker 1: uh the books Sign of Freedom Chief com Calmly School.
Speaker 1: And this is a nineteen fifty nine or nineteen fifty
Speaker 1: nine book from the Smithsonian Institute. And it's got this
Speaker 1: elongate school. It's not nearly as crazy as the one
Speaker 1: you were just holding. But they repatrited this in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty I think to in the.
Speaker 9: Back on that one.
Speaker 5: Also that even the mount if you look at the whole,
Speaker 5: it's it's farther back than it should be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, this was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was they repatrited this. We don't have it
Speaker 1: and they buried it. But yeah, there's there's a hell
Speaker 1: of a story there. Man, there was what's the name
Speaker 1: of the book again, Dan, you're not going to find
Speaker 1: it for sale anyway. It's a rare one. The Chinook
Speaker 1: Sign of Freedom, The Study of the School of the
Speaker 1: Famous Chief comm Calmly. It's from the Smithsonian Institution, Washington,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty.
Speaker 2: Thanks, Yeah, no problem.
Speaker 1: That's you might find a PDF or something, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd not been able to find that book for sale anywhere.
Speaker 1: My buddy Sean, like I said, loaded to me. He's
Speaker 1: turned me onto some interesting stuff that's fairly local that
Speaker 1: I'm kind of doing a deep dive into. Not kind of,
Speaker 1: I'm doing a lot of work into this one, and
Speaker 1: kind of he showed meself that I don't agree with
Speaker 1: everything he's pointed out to me, as he's well aware,
Speaker 1: but there's some of the stuff that he's pointed out
Speaker 1: that's so just just so fucking interesting that I can't
Speaker 1: not dig as deep as I can. So me and
Speaker 1: him are going to do a road trip here soon
Speaker 1: and take a look at a few things, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's some life's crazy.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: That actually leads me into another question that I had,
Speaker 5: which is, have you ever investigated something that you thought
Speaker 5: was just freaking nonsense? Right, but came away thinking, wait
Speaker 5: a minute, there's more to this.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest to the the maps, the old maps
Speaker 1: of Antarctica with ice free coasts and stuff. I thought
Speaker 1: for sure when I started digging into it, I thought,
Speaker 1: for sure be looking into looking at Paradolia. I thought
Speaker 1: for sure that I was going to be. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the boy did I pissed
Speaker 1: some archaeologists off with this one. Even though we were
Speaker 1: all buddies at that time and I wasn't really fighting
Speaker 1: with it. They all just like they were all talking
Speaker 1: to me, and everybody just walked away and clammed up
Speaker 1: when I said this didn't they didn't want to hear it.
Speaker 1: But there's you know, the same thing that makes me
Speaker 1: go with an archaeologist that specializes in carbon dating seeds
Speaker 1: if he says this seed is X number of years old,
Speaker 1: and then somebody else that doesn't carbon date seed says
Speaker 1: it's X number of years old. Same thing with these maps.
Speaker 1: We've had exactly one team of professional cartographers worked on it,
Speaker 1: and they came away saying that they were maps of Antarctica.
Speaker 1: Now you start bringing out other teams professional cartographers, that'd
Speaker 1: be great, But when you bring out historians that have
Speaker 1: a minor in cartography, it's like, well, that's nice, that's interesting,
Speaker 1: But he's a historian first, he's trying to make it
Speaker 1: fit this narrative. The Colonel Harald z Oldmeyer, who was
Speaker 1: in charge of them doing the work on those maps,
Speaker 1: a motherfucker was the lead bombardier on daylight and night
Speaker 1: raid missions in World War Two. He knew how to
Speaker 1: read a map, all right. He wasn't just like, oh, dude,
Speaker 1: to do to do? I think that might be this coastline. No, man,
Speaker 1: he was capable of doing that shit under fire while
Speaker 1: people trying to trick him into thinking it's over there.
Speaker 1: He was good at it. So I have to defer
Speaker 1: to the experts on that man. So that did kind
Speaker 1: of it kind of impressed me. I didn't expect it
Speaker 1: to be so I didn't expect to be so robust.
Speaker 5: Basically, yeah, super interesting.
Speaker 1: So how about you guys. You guys got me answering
Speaker 1: all kinds of questions some of you, you know, some
Speaker 1: ideas here.
Speaker 7: You know, I was going to say, you know, it's
Speaker 7: crazy that history is the way it is.
Speaker 2: You know, everybody has a puzzle piece. Nobody in his
Speaker 2: room or on this.
Speaker 7: Planet has enough time out the day to do research
Speaker 7: in every aspect of everything on this planning even one subject.
Speaker 7: Nobody has enough time on one lifetime to learn everything,
Speaker 7: I mean, just one subject, So everybody needs to work together.
Speaker 7: I hate how a lot of people come back Grand
Speaker 7: because I actually been found on Grand for years and
Speaker 7: I've been I've read his books, I watched his documentaries,
Speaker 7: I go over his stuff. There was a time when
Speaker 7: I wanted to go over his stuff like everybody else did.
Speaker 7: But I was like, man, that's you know, that's so saturated.
Speaker 7: Everybody's doing the same thing. You know, forget it.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not trying to go down that route.
Speaker 7: But he has a lot of questions. First, he says
Speaker 7: a lot you know, he basically wants to know who
Speaker 7: were the people before the Ice age? Who were the
Speaker 7: group of individuals before that, because obviously they were important, right,
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, everybody's trying to find out who
Speaker 7: they are. It's just that most people don't like what
Speaker 7: he says when he's looking for when he's questioning their information.
Speaker 2: So this is what I hate what people do.
Speaker 7: When you're sitting in a room and you're trying to
Speaker 7: present information, you're only presenting the information based off of
Speaker 7: your own research. Now you're presenting you're presenting this room
Speaker 7: and probably fifty to one hundred other people. Now, somebody
Speaker 7: in that room, I guarantee you probably has them some
Speaker 7: more information. And Graham takes that information and he applies
Speaker 7: it to his ideas and theories. All the time he
Speaker 7: takes it's like he takes the It's like he takes
Speaker 7: their stuff and almost uses it against him. And they
Speaker 7: don't just pay attention to what they say because he's asking. Okay,
Speaker 7: the first thing he asked is will tell me who
Speaker 7: where they were before that? And nine times out of ten,
Speaker 7: that shit held ten out of ten. Because the people
Speaker 7: like to argue with him, you know, and they say, well,
Speaker 7: we know, well that's what he's trying to figure out, right,
Speaker 7: And some people don't like the word advanced civilization, and
Speaker 7: this that how many people have actually asked him a
Speaker 7: question about what is a civilization? So this is where
Speaker 7: I kick it. So we got Flint Dibble over here, right.
Speaker 7: He was on there on Joe Rogan. He was talking
Speaker 7: about civilization where he likes to go at Graham a lot.
Speaker 7: And I actually made a little song from you know,
Speaker 7: one of those AI things because I thought this shit
Speaker 7: was so funny when he was on Joe Rogan. I
Speaker 7: think it was like eighteen minutes in seventeen eighteen minutes in,
Speaker 7: and he said he was talking about how he never
Speaker 7: uses the word, he never defines the word civilization, that
Speaker 7: he almost doesn't use the word because there's no it's
Speaker 7: everybody has their own way of defining of what a
Speaker 7: civilization is, which is fair enough. But if you're going
Speaker 7: to have an argument about advanced civilization, at the bare minimum,
Speaker 7: you got to define what civilization is so everybody can
Speaker 7: understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2: That's at the bare minimum. Right.
Speaker 7: Graham has done that throughout his whole entire career, so
Speaker 7: everybody that follows him doesn't need that explaint anymore. Right,
Speaker 7: And anybody knew that wanted to know that was thrown
Speaker 7: off of it because Flint himself says that they don't
Speaker 7: even worry about that anymore. Now you're saying this from
Speaker 7: an academic point of view, that you don't have a
Speaker 7: defined definition of what a civilization is, but you want
Speaker 7: to argue about.
Speaker 2: In advanced civilization. That doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 1: I doubt take it step further. Flint isn't even somebody.
Speaker 1: Flint is in almost no better position than I am
Speaker 1: to tell you how much they are saying towards civilization nowadays.
Speaker 1: His specialty has fuck all to do with civilization, that
Speaker 1: overarching look at he deals with food. He deals with food.
Speaker 1: So his the definitions that he's going to be dealing with,
Speaker 1: they are going to be scientific definitions, and they're different
Speaker 1: than the ones that they bring out to the lay people.
Speaker 1: So everybody. Most people are familiar with the difference of
Speaker 1: the term theory, but for those that aren't, a theory
Speaker 1: to us, if I say, ah, I've got a theory
Speaker 1: about what happened on nine to eleven, that means I
Speaker 1: got some idea with no fucking evidence attached or threadbaar evidence.
Speaker 1: But in science, you know, a theory is a hypothesis
Speaker 1: that stood up to numerous tests, has failed none of them.
Speaker 1: All the evidence supports it, none of the evidence supposes it.
Speaker 1: Like the theory of gravity or the theory of relativity.
Speaker 1: I ask, fucking Herosian, how hypothetical that is? You know
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not hypothetical, man, this is real. So
Speaker 1: it's science uses different terms, and so Flint plays a
Speaker 1: little bit of a weasel. By a little bit, Flint
Speaker 1: plays Weasley games, and that one of them that he
Speaker 1: does there is obfuscating what that term means between both camps.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's one of the things that really really
Speaker 1: rouse me the wrong way about him and a lot
Speaker 1: of those guys is they don't just they don't just
Speaker 1: misrepresent things when they're talking. They misrepresent things so bad
Speaker 1: that somebody watching them discuss things could walk away with
Speaker 1: a bad idea on how science has performed. They walk
Speaker 1: away with the wrong ideas in their head. On a
Speaker 1: fundamental level, they remove archaeology from the picture and they
Speaker 1: still are going to have a bad idea. And the
Speaker 1: way that they handle these things is very You know,
Speaker 1: we're at a point in history right now where science
Speaker 1: seems to be political. You have scientists that support the
Speaker 1: left and scientists that support the right. And that's the
Speaker 1: most fuck places science could be ever, because science is
Speaker 1: a pursuit of truth and politics is a pursuit of
Speaker 1: being a cocksucker. In all honesty, the politics has funck
Speaker 1: all to do with science, and.
Speaker 4: But that's what science is.
Speaker 2: The politics.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and when they My issue is is when
Speaker 1: you get to where you have scientists that people don't
Speaker 1: trust because of their politically, I don't trust foul to you,
Speaker 1: or I don't trust this guy n't. What you end
Speaker 1: up with is you you've got people quit trusting science,
Speaker 1: and people can get science to report whatever they want,
Speaker 1: and you can't even do it in a court of
Speaker 1: law anymore because you're going to call it for a
Speaker 1: fucking expert. Well I got a scientist a donkey next
Speaker 1: to their name, Well fuck you. I got a scientist
Speaker 1: in the same field and with an elephant next to
Speaker 1: his And now you've got to judge danie or has
Speaker 1: no fucking idea what any of this man we're looking at.
Speaker 1: We're in some very ugly ugly We're in a very
Speaker 1: ugly place, and it's going to get a whole lot
Speaker 1: worse work it gets better as far as how science
Speaker 1: and the public interact, and a lot of it is
Speaker 1: the egos of people.
Speaker 6: Like flinted right and the scientific journals even they have
Speaker 6: themselves have come out and admitted that more than fifty
Speaker 6: percent of their research papers are non reproducible in regard
Speaker 6: to you know, the yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's over. I want to say it was over.
Speaker 1: Eighty thousand papers were retracted in twenty twenty four over
Speaker 1: eighty thousand, and Some of this is because we've got
Speaker 1: AI now, you know, scrubbing those things and looking for
Speaker 1: coming through them and looking for plagiarism and faulty data
Speaker 1: sets and whatnot. But a lot of it is just
Speaker 1: flat out that. You know, I say this all the
Speaker 1: time about archaeology, you know, when they tell me I'm
Speaker 1: not a scientist, and I'd laugh. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: an electrician, bitch, I did applied science. The universe told
Speaker 1: me if I was wrong. You write a paper and
Speaker 1: you give it to another archaeologist and you circle jerk
Speaker 1: all day long. You could be talking about fucking Harry
Speaker 1: Potter and none of you would ever reach track the
Speaker 1: other guy's paper, and you're gonna call it science. No, man,
Speaker 1: you're you're not a scientist. Bro.
Speaker 2: I hate I hate when people do that. Bro. I
Speaker 2: hate when people say, well, I'm this year, not that
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 7: I hate when people throw that ship out there, because
Speaker 7: that that doesn't mean an If that's the case, then
Speaker 7: why the fuck did you prove what you said in
Speaker 7: the first place? Then you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 7: why are you still why haven't you figured it out?
Speaker 2: Then? Since you have this degree, you're you're looking at
Speaker 2: from that.
Speaker 7: Non uh perspective of having that that the credentials that
Speaker 7: they're looking for. So if it doesn't make sense to
Speaker 7: that non credential person, then make it make it to them,
Speaker 7: make it make sense to us.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: You have, you have the education, you have the background,
Speaker 7: you have to academic. You sitting here throwing yourself on
Speaker 7: this pedestal talking about some Oh yeah I got this
Speaker 7: PhD and blah.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah. Okay, so explain it to us idiots.
Speaker 9: Then language, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's a wall. So be the gandal,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 9: Be the Gandalf that brings this knowledge and alert.
Speaker 11: Ex if it doesn't make sense that of course we're
Speaker 11: going to ask these questions because it doesn't make sense
Speaker 11: because you're telling us we don't have these credentials that
Speaker 11: you have. So now when we ask these questions, now
Speaker 11: it's your opportunity sends you up on this high rise
Speaker 11: and all this other shit that you got this academic
Speaker 11: you can walk around and say, hey, I'm doctor this
Speaker 11: this this okay, would not prove it to us, tell
Speaker 11: us what we need to know, Show me the facts,
Speaker 11: because guess what, there's other PhD right over here saying
Speaker 11: that you're a crock of bullshit.
Speaker 2: So both y'all got pad So which one am I
Speaker 2: supposed to believe that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, tell me that riddle me
Speaker 2: that batman. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's fall it's that part has fallen this ship with it.
Speaker 1: Like I was saying, you can't it's got to where
Speaker 1: we can't trust uh, we can't trust science anymore. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Carl Sagan was the guy that really he
Speaker 1: brought the lights from Gandalf to the masses with uh
Speaker 1: with uh cosmology and freaking astronomy, and he got all
Speaker 1: kinds of shit. His colleagues rilled him and just picked
Speaker 1: on him all the time. Go go write another paper
Speaker 1: for the fucking idiots, and we're going to go write
Speaker 1: a paper for and saying published papers, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1: His focus was science education. And the thing is, in
Speaker 1: all honesty, I personally think a lot of the reason
Speaker 1: that guys like him get a lot of shit is
Speaker 1: because they are the same reason that Lee Berger, if
Speaker 1: you remember the Cave of Bones. If any of you
Speaker 1: saw that on Netflix, he got a lot of people.
Speaker 1: He got all kinds of shit from my archaeologists and anthropologists.
Speaker 1: And the reason is because these guys, generally speaking, a
Speaker 1: good scientist, a real good scientist, is not just a
Speaker 1: bit of a nerd. They're fucking socially awkward. They they're
Speaker 1: they're they're weird, and that's fine and good in the lab,
Speaker 1: but it really sucks when you put them on a
Speaker 1: TV screen and they're trying to convince normal people that
Speaker 1: this guy that you were like, somebody checked that motherfucker's
Speaker 1: hard drive. You don't want to have this guy talking
Speaker 1: on to the public and everybody's like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: the font of knowledge. We're all looking at this guy
Speaker 1: on this It used to be that the only time
Speaker 1: you would see those kinds of scientists was on freaking
Speaker 1: PBS at three am. And otherwise you were going to
Speaker 1: get a Carl Sagan type. You were going to get
Speaker 1: a guy that knew how to talk to the camera
Speaker 1: and give you a little shuck and jive and hey, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome back, and here's what we're going to talk about today.
Speaker 1: And then when you don't get that stew We get
Speaker 1: these guys that are fucking uh or that are egotistical
Speaker 1: and get all red faced and screamy or basically, the
Speaker 1: the facade that scientists hid behind for centuries felled a
Speaker 1: ship in the social media era when they all got
Speaker 1: to get on Twitter and scream about stupid shit and
Speaker 1: they all start doing all the goofy shit that everybody
Speaker 1: makes fun of, and it's now it's like, okay, so
Speaker 1: you're just you're you're just people like us, but you're
Speaker 1: kind of a worse person than us because most of
Speaker 1: us at least know how to dress and like, don't
Speaker 1: say the stupid ass shit you do.
Speaker 2: So a lot of us know how to use common
Speaker 2: sense too. They don't.
Speaker 8: Einstein said, if you can't explain your idea to a
Speaker 8: six year old, you don't understand it yourself.
Speaker 9: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all know, I was in the military.
Speaker 7: We call it keep it simple stupid, that's what it's
Speaker 7: just simple stupid, that's what we were saying. So if
Speaker 7: you can't keep it simple stupid to me, I guess,
Speaker 7: I guess what you're saying just ain't holding up then,
Speaker 7: because I I you know, when people talk. You mentioned
Speaker 7: the word gravity. You don't have to explain gravity to me.
Speaker 7: I pick up this goddamn phone and let go of
Speaker 7: It's going to hit the ground. That's all I need
Speaker 7: to know. Anything that I pick up is going to
Speaker 7: eventually hit the ground. That's all I need to know gravity. Now,
Speaker 7: if I want to get into this scientific theory relativity
Speaker 7: and all this other stuff.
Speaker 2: My mind is going to be ain't going down that road.
Speaker 7: But I know the simple thing, foundational aspect of what
Speaker 7: gravity is. So you know, all that other argument and
Speaker 7: theories that everybody else have that's still up in the air.
Speaker 4: Better explain it, Like Bernie, Actually, I think the idea
Speaker 4: of gravity that changed to us is completely wrong.
Speaker 2: That's why everything.
Speaker 4: One thing I did want to ask you about and
Speaker 4: get into a little bit more. This is the cult
Speaker 4: rejects when it comes to like ritual stuff. Was there
Speaker 4: places that you thought, like for sure definitely had areas
Speaker 4: that you were like there was ritual shit going on here?
Speaker 4: And what made you think that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Why, Well, there's like certain places where you see those
Speaker 1: like blood letting stones where they're pretty clearly made to
Speaker 1: like collect blood when you caught something. And I mean
Speaker 1: that's you know, I mean, I guess you could be
Speaker 1: eating the blood or making black pudding out of it,
Speaker 1: but I would I would got in the limb and say,
Speaker 1: most of those cultures are probably using it for some
Speaker 1: sort of ceremonial purposes. Given what what most cultures tend
Speaker 1: to think about blood. I can't think of any culture
Speaker 1: actually that doesn't have some weird, some weird spiritual significance
Speaker 1: attached to blood. There's uh, that gets tricky because I mean,
Speaker 1: the word the word ritual is so vague, and so
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, my last video I actually just talked
Speaker 1: about a little bit. I joked about how a baseball
Speaker 1: player picks up his bat and touches it in a
Speaker 1: certain way. That's that's a ritual, right, So this.
Speaker 4: Socks for two weeks. I think you said something like that.
Speaker 1: It gets difficult to know what. But there are places,
Speaker 1: for sure, there's some dark places like that. People have
Speaker 1: done some fucked up stuff. There's no question, Like you
Speaker 1: know in car on Tepe Graham Hancock mentioned it at
Speaker 1: the first season of Ancient Apocalypse. How that that face
Speaker 1: that's sticking out of the side of the wall just
Speaker 1: looks Yeah, it's fucking I think's ugly as fuck. Man.
Speaker 1: I think it's scary looking. It's a big just like
Speaker 1: kissy lips and ship. It's like you could imagine that
Speaker 1: enclosure being like filled with water or something. It'd be
Speaker 1: pretty scary little spot there. But uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: would I think that the pyramids honestly, Like, do you
Speaker 1: guys watch history for granted at all? He covers a
Speaker 1: lot of the more mechanical aspects of Egyptian things, a
Speaker 1: lot of he's he's a pretty good channel. He He's
Speaker 1: not mainstream, but he's not alternative, I guess should say
Speaker 1: he does. He does some like the Chimney and the
Speaker 1: Bent Pyramid, for example. He went and took the best
Speaker 1: photographs of that since the seventies. And he's he's got
Speaker 1: theories on the port cliss doors, on the Great Pyramid
Speaker 1: and how they are were designed to be lowered and
Speaker 1: raised multiple times? Would they weren't designed to be dropped
Speaker 1: and lock the pharaoh in there forever, it was designed
Speaker 1: to be accessible and people come and go, and that
Speaker 1: implies it was more of an area of cultural of
Speaker 1: a ritual significance, and that would make sense, Like we've
Speaker 1: opened one sarcophagus that was in a pyramid. It was sealed,
Speaker 1: but it had no body in it. So it does
Speaker 1: make sense that, you know, the Egyptians had like forty
Speaker 1: two gates. I think it was that they had forty
Speaker 1: two stations basically they would go through in their afterlife.
Speaker 1: And I don't see a reason why they wouldn't re
Speaker 1: enact some of that on the earth, and you know,
Speaker 1: go stick his body in this one for six weeks,
Speaker 1: and stick his body in that one for six weeks,
Speaker 1: and stick his body and then then travel it over
Speaker 1: here and present it. I mean, I personally think there
Speaker 1: could have well been a whole, big, big ass year
Speaker 1: long ceremony whenever a pharaoh died that really got the
Speaker 1: whole country behind it for a time. It would it
Speaker 1: would make sense given what we see. I mean, some
Speaker 1: of these things, you know, just it beggars belief to
Speaker 1: think that it would be one person's uh, you know,
Speaker 1: one person's project to have all the GDP go into
Speaker 1: Kufu's pyramid, for example. Come ons that I personally think
Speaker 1: there was more than nothing involved in that except for
Speaker 1: I was here.
Speaker 4: That's I was even saying it. I was even saying
Speaker 4: I think a few days ago. That's funny, how like
Speaker 4: growing up, I believe that those things would build just
Speaker 4: to house a few dead people. Yeah, you went through
Speaker 4: all that, you could just have a fucking grave yellow.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it was. I think it did multiple things.
Speaker 2: I noticed guy uh ken Good's words. Uh, he's actually
Speaker 2: a publisher. He actually published my book.
Speaker 7: Actually he talks about uh, and there's a lot of
Speaker 7: evidence about it about you know, some of these pyramids
Speaker 7: being used as chemical plants, like to make methane and
Speaker 7: certain stuff like that, and he goes in details and
Speaker 7: in his book, and uh, it's just interesting that, you know,
Speaker 7: there's different theories on why the pyramids were made. And
Speaker 7: I think that there was a multi you know type thing,
Speaker 7: multi use type thing, because of the simple fact that
Speaker 7: I don't think it's just for the dedica. I'm sure
Speaker 7: somebody said, hey, I want my body to be dead
Speaker 7: buried in there. I'm pretty sure somebody said that along
Speaker 7: the lines. But I don't think it was solely made
Speaker 7: for that. They had the kings Shamer after Queen's Chamber
Speaker 7: and after this they have that, and everybody comes up
Speaker 7: with their ideas. But you know, one of the things
Speaker 7: that I that I'm always interested in is the idea
Speaker 7: of how the Pyramids were made. You know, a lot
Speaker 7: of people always says it took it takes twenty years.
Speaker 7: It took twenty years. That's what the consensus is. But
Speaker 7: if you actually read I believe it's Herodoto's books, he
Speaker 7: actually says thirty years. He says ten years for the
Speaker 7: ramp and then twenty years for everything else. Now, this
Speaker 7: is a guy that wrote how the Pyramids were back
Speaker 7: back then. This is the first history, and this is
Speaker 7: supposed to be a father of historian that actually talks
Speaker 7: about how it's built. But he never talks about the
Speaker 7: usages basically like he never gets in detail on how
Speaker 7: the usages were made. And you know, what we also
Speaker 7: are what I also should say, I know is that
Speaker 7: the Pyramids is also in layers.
Speaker 2: It's not just one whole thing built over layers.
Speaker 7: So a lot of times some people say, you know
Speaker 7: that they did one thing and then they decided to
Speaker 7: add something else, and it's something they decided to add
Speaker 7: something else and then.
Speaker 2: It just came out to what it'd be.
Speaker 7: But you know, it's just theories and being it lined
Speaker 7: up to the stars. Some people say that it's not
Speaker 7: lined up to the stars, that it's not that it
Speaker 7: is actually just clo It's.
Speaker 2: Close, but not that close.
Speaker 7: But like you said, when you go out outside now,
Speaker 7: when you go outside now, you got a.
Speaker 2: Light lot of light pollution.
Speaker 7: And nine times out of ten, most people are looking
Speaker 7: down on their phones anyway. They're not looking at the sky.
Speaker 7: Their sky was their television like it is as ours today.
Speaker 7: So them looking at the skys and building things according
Speaker 7: to the stars, and this, that and the third.
Speaker 2: It's going to be pretty accurate. It's history.
Speaker 7: If you see the sun rising the same spot over
Speaker 7: and over again, you're gonna be like, oh yeah, let's
Speaker 7: build something here.
Speaker 2: This would be pretty cool.
Speaker 7: And it's just coming in together as a group of
Speaker 7: individuals trying to do something that when you said, you know,
Speaker 7: the myths and rituals and stuff like that, I think
Speaker 7: the rituals was the you know, being consistent with something,
Speaker 7: and that's how civilization was able to go forward, being
Speaker 7: consistent what we was doing, you know, making sure that
Speaker 7: we paid attention for agricultural needs, you know, paying attention
Speaker 7: to the stars because you never know when the floods
Speaker 7: are going to hit you might have to move your
Speaker 7: land and so forth, or your home or your residence
Speaker 7: from one spot to another to avoid the catastrophe and
Speaker 7: stuff like that. And that's where all these myths start.
Speaker 7: Telling these stories for entertainment wise, no different than when
Speaker 7: you watch Superman and Spider Man when they talk about
Speaker 7: that stuff. You know that they're keeping these stories entertaining
Speaker 7: for people. But sometimes some people can say, hey, there
Speaker 7: was actually not a Spider Man in the sense of
Speaker 7: that idea, but there was actually a Spider Man god, right,
Speaker 7: so and they get some of the remnants to make
Speaker 7: it the Spider Man show and stuff like that. And
Speaker 7: it's just interesting that these myths has been carried for
Speaker 7: because we've been looking at those stars for thousands and
Speaker 7: thousands of years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty wild. The ancient Egyptians like to start
Speaker 1: with you've talked about the twenty year pyramid. I'll start there.
Speaker 1: That's that I've referred to as the gateway drug to
Speaker 1: being a pyramidiot. You take any construction worker and tell
Speaker 1: him that it's taken twenty years to build a pyramid,
Speaker 1: They're just like, all right, fuck he what's the other alternatives?
Speaker 1: That's just we're just I'm just out, that's just stupid.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's just stupid. So it's I think that's
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things. I personally think that if
Speaker 1: if the Fourth dynasty is when started and finished the Pyramids,
Speaker 1: that it would be three at a time. I think
Speaker 1: that you would be breaking ground on your sons as
Speaker 1: you finished yours, or as you finish, as you finished
Speaker 1: years broke ground on your grandsons and were halfway done
Speaker 1: with your sons. I think that was a constant thing
Speaker 1: for a few generations there. Assuming that was that they
Speaker 1: were all built in the Fourth dynasty, like like the
Speaker 1: historians say they were. But when it gets into the
Speaker 1: like Herodicus, you know, he's recycling. He's repeating what he
Speaker 1: was told by an Egyptian priest, so his you know,
Speaker 1: his information is basically operating under the assumptions of the
Speaker 1: Egyptians actually built them and still knew how they were
Speaker 1: built and what had happened and whatnot. If it was
Speaker 1: a different culture, like a lot of people believe that
Speaker 1: it built them and then the Egyptians came in, and
Speaker 1: or that the Egyptians were just whacked so hard that
Speaker 1: they couldn't you know, some cataclysm threw them back into
Speaker 1: where they were spending a little bit of time in
Speaker 1: more subsistence space. Things you don't you don't to care
Speaker 1: so much about your you know, esoteric things when you're
Speaker 1: worried about eating. So it wouldn't take a couple of
Speaker 1: generations to lose a lot of these things. Hell, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't take a couple of generations to lose a lot
Speaker 1: of this stuff. I talk a lot about how you know,
Speaker 1: stonework was stone was the premier building material for millions
Speaker 1: of years, literally millions of years. Hominids were using it
Speaker 1: long before human beings were ever a thing, and so
Speaker 1: you know, parent taught child for millions of years little
Speaker 1: tricky techniques. Now, think about whatever trade you do into
Speaker 1: the little stupid tricks that somebody taught you how to
Speaker 1: cut onions or some bullshit. I'll imagine millions of years
Speaker 1: of accumulated knowledge like that. How fucking good these guys
Speaker 1: had to be with stone, And then in one generation
Speaker 1: somebody comes along with metal, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: how much do you know about horseback riding compared to
Speaker 1: your great grandpa?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 9: You know a lot.
Speaker 2: That I was just going to say that dog that's
Speaker 2: a good ass point, bro. And you know it's so
Speaker 2: crazy that you.
Speaker 7: Say that, because I did ah, I talked.
Speaker 2: A couple of different people.
Speaker 7: And you know, the pyramids in Egypt aren't the oldest pyramids.
Speaker 7: There are pyramids in Peru that are older, right, a
Speaker 7: lot of people are, but they're not the same type
Speaker 7: of pyramids, of course. And then you have the mounds
Speaker 7: in North America that predate the pyramids, and of course
Speaker 7: you had to start with mounds, and then you know pyramid, clay, brick, stone, stone,
Speaker 7: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But you know when you.
Speaker 7: Said that Herodotus, you know he was he got it
Speaker 7: from the priests. You know, I agree with you one
Speaker 7: hundred percent on that. My question is, wonder does the
Speaker 7: telephone where does the telephone game really begin?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Like, where where does that begin at? And how accurate
Speaker 7: is it? Because you know, he might have said twenty
Speaker 7: thirty years or he said thirty years. I'm not going
Speaker 7: to say twenty. I actually read thirty from his books.
Speaker 7: He says thirty years. But what did that thirty years
Speaker 7: equivalent to? You know what I'm saying, how did you
Speaker 7: consider your days.
Speaker 2: At that time? Because you know, we don't. We don't.
Speaker 7: We didn't consider our days to saying that we counted
Speaker 7: thirty thousand years.
Speaker 2: Say again, mark.
Speaker 6: With the drifting calendars of the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly. You know what I'm saying, days coming
Speaker 2: up missing something?
Speaker 1: You know, well literally that you study the Samerian Kings
Speaker 1: List quite a bit tyroid, and that this Samerian Kings
Speaker 1: List is a great example of like that's why they
Speaker 1: call Heroda it's the first historian, because the Samerian Kings List.
Speaker 1: You go out and you read a king's list of
Speaker 1: kings names once every generation plus, because it's probably safe
Speaker 1: to assume that the kings are outliving your commoners for
Speaker 1: the most part. So the odds of anybody actually remembering
Speaker 1: these illiterate fucks didn't write it down, so they didn't
Speaker 1: remember the Kings List. So the whole point of the
Speaker 1: Kings List isn't to record history. It's to legitimize the
Speaker 1: cocksucker I'm putting on the throne right now. So the
Speaker 1: whole point of saying that it took thirty years, that
Speaker 1: could have took three hundred. We're ten times better than
Speaker 1: the history records this as and all it takes is
Speaker 1: again one generation to tell that lie, and we see
Speaker 1: this shit over and over and over all the way
Speaker 1: from too World War two, there was a Battle of
Speaker 1: the Marianna Turkey Shoot where the Americas just shot the
Speaker 1: fuck out of the Japanese fighters. They'd be down like
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty some on fighters in one day,
Speaker 1: just wrecked their their naval air force. And they were
Speaker 1: so scared to report that to their high command. They
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, we lost two planes. We lost three planes.
Speaker 1: The next day they lost two war they tried to
Speaker 1: triple and drip feed these losses in because they were trying.
Speaker 1: You see it with a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: battle records. If you look at the Russians and the
Speaker 1: Germans takes on things, it's like, well it looks like
Speaker 1: both sides won that battle. And you kind of just
Speaker 1: have to go to an outside perspective to see people
Speaker 1: get Like mel Gibson says at the beginning to Brave
Speaker 1: haire Man, history is written by the winners, right, It's
Speaker 1: how it goes well.
Speaker 6: And I was going to bring up this idea of
Speaker 6: you know these arts, you know that are basically refined
Speaker 6: and then lost and then found again when you get
Speaker 6: into the Masonic texts, they talk about the fact that
Speaker 6: at the Tower Babel, that these Cushites you know, these
Speaker 6: ancient you know Ethiopians that were these builders of colossal edifices.
Speaker 6: Essentially at the Tower of Babel, they say that the
Speaker 6: art of masonry was lost and then it you know,
Speaker 6: and then the people were scattered and essentially didn't come
Speaker 6: back again until the building of Solomon's Temple. So there
Speaker 6: there's these ideas, you know, and and the same thing
Speaker 6: with metallurgy, you know, it goes back what seven thousand
Speaker 6: years essentially the first earliest smelting you know, piles we
Speaker 6: can find. But if you go back into like Enoch
Speaker 6: and all these stories of the fallen Ones, they were
Speaker 6: bringing these ideas of you know, advanced physics of metal working,
Speaker 6: of all these you know things that uh, you know,
Speaker 6: were the mysteries. Essentially.
Speaker 9: Le Matt King was actually listed in the Bible.
Speaker 10: His son said specifically that he was gifted the Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's it's uh pretty It's interesting how fire, metallurgy, agriculture,
Speaker 1: these are never handed to us by people. There is
Speaker 1: no we don't, we don't. It makes you wonder how
Speaker 1: how we're gonna look at Eginten in five thousand years
Speaker 1: to get the god came down and split the atom
Speaker 1: of blue of Japan. It's just weird because humans were.
Speaker 1: It's one of the things like what we were saying about,
Speaker 1: like when did the when did the bullshit start? In
Speaker 1: the Egyptian narrative, And I mean one of the things
Speaker 1: that I would use and a lot of historians would too,
Speaker 1: is about the time when the leaders start living more
Speaker 1: than a couple of hundred years. I'm going to go
Speaker 1: out in a limb and say that the story is
Speaker 1: going a little bit off the fucking rails here. We're
Speaker 1: getting into legend and myth and by the time at
Speaker 1: their their ages, like with the Assyrian kings list, when
Speaker 1: they start lining up with astronomical ages, it's like, clearly, clearly, clearly, clearly,
Speaker 1: this is allegorical. This is this is not talking about
Speaker 1: one person lifespan. That's how I look at it, very
Speaker 1: very clearly. This is talking about an age and it's
Speaker 1: so far gone. Again. To reference World War two, go
Speaker 1: to any World War II group on Facebook and watch
Speaker 1: the guy's debate which unit patch was worn by which
Speaker 1: unit at which time and Patten's wife said they had
Speaker 1: to move that patch from their left hand, and what
Speaker 1: date was that? And the Civil war even worse? And
Speaker 1: that's silver where one hundred and fifty years ago? Man,
Speaker 1: And they're gonna so if they can't, if they can't
Speaker 1: tell me what button that we wrote down on a
Speaker 1: card and put it in a fucking file in the
Speaker 1: same country that we live in. Now, they can't tell
Speaker 1: me what button private so and so war on his shirt.
Speaker 1: But you're gonna tell me what happened in ancient Egypt
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand years ago. Sorry, dude, you don't have any
Speaker 1: fucking clue. We have threadbare whispers is all we got.
Speaker 1: We have gossamers of truth, and these documents once they
Speaker 1: get so far so especially when you look at it.
Speaker 1: I think one of the great examples of this is
Speaker 1: looking at the myth of the Flood, the difference between
Speaker 1: Plato and Noah, and with Noah you have the gods
Speaker 1: are angry. The God is angry. It's supports monotheism. Don't
Speaker 1: fuck with God, don't break the rules. If you're a
Speaker 1: good person, you do what God says, you'll be saved.
Speaker 1: Follow the One True God. But with the Greek version
Speaker 1: they're a warlike people, they're democratic, they're noble. They use
Speaker 1: the same precious metals on their temples that the Greeks
Speaker 1: did it. These are cultural lenses, man, that what is
Speaker 1: great about Noah is what was great to Moses because
Speaker 1: he's the one who wrote the fucking story, if assuming
Speaker 1: Moses existed, And what was great about Atlantis was what
Speaker 1: was great to Plato because he's the one that wrote
Speaker 1: the fucking story. It's now. I don't think there wasn't
Speaker 1: some truth to what he was going with. I think
Speaker 1: that these guys were absolutely informed by an outside thing,
Speaker 1: but their story teller right, And go look at whose
Speaker 1: version of King Arthur and the Knights of the Holy
Speaker 1: Grail would you excels nowadays except for the one that's
Speaker 1: got somewhat of a different take. The stories evolve over
Speaker 1: time and they take on the cultural lens of the
Speaker 1: culture that has them. So I personally think that's something
Speaker 1: we I think at one generation's time. I don't think
Speaker 1: if any of you know who the cargo cults are,
Speaker 1: it takes one generation's time and the history just gets
Speaker 1: completely fucked.
Speaker 6: So I was gonna say, now, when you go back
Speaker 6: to these ancient flood stories. You know, yahweh, the storm
Speaker 6: god was mad, and then you have Jupiter was upset
Speaker 6: with the noisiness of the humans. But I was just
Speaker 6: I was down in Newport this weekend and I was
Speaker 6: talking to a sailor and he was talking about the
Speaker 6: sea in regard to a storm, and he said, you know,
Speaker 6: the sea was angry. So it's these, you know, just
Speaker 6: these common little ideas that add weight to you know,
Speaker 6: expanding mythos of these things. And over time, you know,
Speaker 6: like through the telephone system, you essentially have these these
Speaker 6: mythos that just grow and grow and grow and become,
Speaker 6: you know, of godly proportions.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it's interesting y'all talking about the flu
Speaker 7: story because I like to talk about that. So when
Speaker 7: it comes to the flud story, every civilization on this
Speaker 7: planet started by a body of water. It doesn't matter, right,
Speaker 7: It don't matter what you want to think. Every civilization
Speaker 7: started by a body of water. Why, because we need body.
Speaker 7: We need water to survive for our body. Now, maybe
Speaker 7: not in that generation timeframe, but in a generation after
Speaker 7: or a generation after, a flood will hap. Well what
Speaker 7: do you do when a flood comes, Well, you leave
Speaker 7: the area. In those times, people paid attention. I said
Speaker 7: it earlier, people paid attention to the stars. They needed
Speaker 7: to know when it was time for agricultural needs, raining seasons.
Speaker 2: So they might have needed maybe needed to move, and
Speaker 2: so on and so forth.
Speaker 7: So every civilization has a flush story because they live
Speaker 7: by a body of water that eventually flooded. Now we
Speaker 7: go to twenty twenty five, there are billions of Christians.
Speaker 7: Well guess what story is going to be told the
Speaker 7: most The Christian story, right right, mono theistic religion, just
Speaker 7: like y'all two just talked about. Well, what are other
Speaker 7: mono theistic religions. Well, you know that people have the
Speaker 7: Islamic faith out there asse as Christianity.
Speaker 6: And it's all Judaeo based.
Speaker 1: All Abrahammick and they all believe.
Speaker 2: So that's what people are.
Speaker 7: When people are on the telephone, that's the one they're
Speaker 7: talking about. But you don't get to the socifics until
Speaker 7: you talk to people that are you know, you know.
Speaker 6: Even when you get into the Native American tales, you know,
Speaker 6: you have the various tales of the treasure, the cursed
Speaker 6: treasures are under the seas. You know, from the time
Speaker 6: of the Great flood. You have these stories like in
Speaker 6: Mesa Verde, if you go out and look at those
Speaker 6: you know, petroglyphs that are out there, they basically talk about,
Speaker 6: you know, the different tribes and clans that are fleeing
Speaker 6: from this catastrophe. Their stories.
Speaker 1: What was it.
Speaker 6: There's the one story that they ruled, the tribe ruled
Speaker 6: great over the land and tell a greater crut. You know,
Speaker 6: tribe rose up and took them as slave and then
Speaker 6: there was a giant wave that overtook the land, only
Speaker 6: leaving fragments of the people. So you know, even even
Speaker 6: in these you know, within American culture, within South American culture,
Speaker 6: you see these flood stories consistently, you know, throughout.
Speaker 2: And it's because they lived by water. That's gonna be
Speaker 2: that's going it's entertainment.
Speaker 7: They didn't have TV, telephones, tablet, cell phones, computers and
Speaker 7: all these other ship Everybody had to entertain themselves. I mean, hell,
Speaker 7: anybody that went fishing knows that. When you go fishing
Speaker 7: on hunting, when you next to your buddy, y'all are
Speaker 7: sitting here telling some some bushit stories.
Speaker 2: You know, your buddy's lying.
Speaker 6: Around the fire and everybody, you know, drawn in like ferroneous,
Speaker 6: bringing everybody centralizing them telling stories and the stories, especially
Speaker 6: when you're relating that to you know, these these hinges
Speaker 6: and then getting into the cosmological turnings that becomes the
Speaker 6: story behind all the stories.
Speaker 1: Essentially.
Speaker 7: Now, now think about it when somebody else says, hey,
Speaker 7: I had that happen to me. So now two myths
Speaker 7: come into one because you're telling what your buddy had,
Speaker 7: what happened to your buddy, and now you're saying, hey,
Speaker 7: I had the same exact thing, and this is what
Speaker 7: happened to me.
Speaker 2: And now you told that story.
Speaker 7: Now the person that's listening to it, they might want
Speaker 7: to be lazy and just be like, this is what
Speaker 7: this what this one person went through and got that
Speaker 7: there were two individuals involved.
Speaker 6: Well, and then that would develop into essentially the priesthood
Speaker 6: that would be in charge of telling the stories that
Speaker 6: were the authorized storytelling.
Speaker 2: Because they were like, wait a minute, I know the training,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're.
Speaker 2: Right, bro, you absolutely right.
Speaker 12: Because that person was like, yo, I remember him saying that,
Speaker 12: and I remember this guy say that. But they're saying
Speaker 12: this one story. No, hell does two stories. Y'all need
Speaker 12: to get this ship together. We need to write this
Speaker 12: ship down. And that's how right now.
Speaker 10: See, I think I take Graham's standpoint on that flood narrative.
Speaker 10: If you have so many similar stories across the world,
Speaker 10: across the continent, there has to be something to it.
Speaker 9: There's a grain of treat there.
Speaker 10: And I think they're looking back to this what scientists
Speaker 10: call the Younger Dryest period.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 10: If you guys are into that kind of flood stuff.
Speaker 10: And there's a guy, his name was a doctor Walt Brown.
Speaker 10: He actually worked for NASA and he wrote a book
Speaker 10: called In the Beginning that is one of the best
Speaker 10: pieces of literature that I've ever read on the Younger
Speaker 10: dryas aveent to what he believed happened, which it's a
Speaker 10: long winded thing Ausparians. But if that stuff interests you,
Speaker 10: definitely check that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense and just think about it.
Speaker 7: That's why I said, too, instead of it being one
Speaker 7: whole flood story, right, it's multiple people, different persons. It's
Speaker 7: not every animal was saved on one boat. It was
Speaker 7: every animal that was important to humanity saved on multiple arts.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 6: Right, but now now there's you get in. Yeah, if
Speaker 6: you get into the Persian stories. They actually talk about
Speaker 6: the var, which is where the word arc comes from.
Speaker 6: And the var was actually underground, and they talk about
Speaker 6: how many riding lengths it was, and they basically brought
Speaker 6: all of the miscellaneous plants and you know, animals into
Speaker 6: this cave underground because of the evading frost and and
Speaker 6: essentially so this is pre ice age, you know, mythology
Speaker 6: versus the arc literature, which is you know, basically the
Speaker 6: flood at when all the ice melted. You know, It's
Speaker 6: it's interesting the dichotomy of these stories.
Speaker 2: Uh, they actually have a place like that right now.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Yeah, I have actually a bunch of questions.
Speaker 4: I would like to still get in if you don't worry.
Speaker 4: I need to eventually before we run out of time. Sorry,
Speaker 4: I would just keep it real, Dan, I hate to
Speaker 4: go back to it, but I would like to go
Speaker 4: back to the ritual stuff. I know it's been about
Speaker 4: twenty minutes now, but I would like to go back
Speaker 4: to it. Because you're somebody who's been there and seeing
Speaker 4: this stuff. I would like to take advantage of that.
Speaker 4: When it comes to these places that you think of rituals,
Speaker 4: did you ever notice, uh, would they have nothing inscribed
Speaker 4: in them, or they have actual symbols in these areas
Speaker 4: as well. Oh and this is like one of like
Speaker 4: three questions, so please everybody.
Speaker 1: Just get well, you know, I some some areas seem
Speaker 1: to have some symbols, I mean usually how do you
Speaker 1: put it? Are there are areas that I would think
Speaker 1: that are uh Like I said, I think the rituals
Speaker 1: were done in the Pyramids and those are definitely devoid
Speaker 1: as symbols. But yeah, a lot of places have a
Speaker 1: lot of symbols slapped on them. It just depends on
Speaker 1: the culture that was doing it. You know, to some
Speaker 1: less was more, it seems.
Speaker 4: Did you ever notice like maybe a certain type like
Speaker 4: maybe spirals or certain certain ones that almost seemed very
Speaker 4: reminiscent of.
Speaker 1: The spiral motif is pretty common? Yeah, that's spirals that
Speaker 1: spiral the cross us a spiral across the circle and
Speaker 1: circles not too complicated, but yeah, those ones, I mean,
Speaker 1: the cross is a pretty normal one too. All of
Speaker 1: those are ones you're going to see in nature. And
Speaker 1: I think the spiral is one that somebody that like
Speaker 1: looked at water would probably be pretty into, especially if
Speaker 1: they started feeling like they were seeing that sort of
Speaker 1: pattern in the stars and all or something that they
Speaker 1: felt like they could extrapolate that to anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh, this is a little specific though, just to keep
Speaker 4: on going on with the same one. Would you notice
Speaker 4: these like maybe prior to entering the ritual area or
Speaker 4: it's in the ritual area? Depends youn to sound like
Speaker 4: what I'm trying to get at, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like you know in some in some places,
Speaker 1: like it seems like there's some areas where it seems
Speaker 1: like they try to just slap you in the face
Speaker 1: with symbolism, if you get it. There are certain towns
Speaker 1: here on the West Coast where I live, where there
Speaker 1: are planned cities, and some of them are pretty I mean,
Speaker 1: like I get pretty skeptical about this stuff. Some pretty
Speaker 1: clearly influenced by people that were in the freemasonry and shit, right,
Speaker 1: I mean when they build the city streets certain ways
Speaker 1: and whatnot. It's like, Okay, again, I'm pretty skeptical a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, But I don't have to believe adrenochrome
Speaker 1: works to believe that some people do and they can
Speaker 1: do some goofy shit in the name of a trino crew.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So this is this is where like there are a
Speaker 1: lot of there are a lot of things where they
Speaker 1: just kind of seem to just try to browbeat you
Speaker 1: with symbolism just as soon as you get it. But
Speaker 1: then again, I mean there's times where I could just
Speaker 1: not be getting the symbolism, so I'm missing it right.
Speaker 1: I'd like to think that I know everything, but as
Speaker 1: my teenager constantly reminds you of what fucking.
Speaker 4: Idiots now, that the reason I'm asking is because I
Speaker 4: know there are some places where it does seem like
Speaker 4: that some of these symbols might actually be representing a
Speaker 4: frequency that needs to be used with the room, you know,
Speaker 4: because you'll have the frequency of the earth, you have
Speaker 4: the frequency of the building, and then like whatever you're
Speaker 4: trying to equal, you can probably have to meet to
Speaker 4: the both together, like maybe with like whatever music and
Speaker 4: stuff going onside the room, which, if that's possible, leads
Speaker 4: me into like my next question, and kind of do
Speaker 4: you think, like you're talking about these these containers in
Speaker 4: the pyramids, do you think it's possible actually really wasn't
Speaker 4: technically meant for dead people? At first, I.
Speaker 1: Think that's possible, but I don't, like I have some
Speaker 1: serious problems with a lot of the hypotheses that's around.
Speaker 1: Like to start with, like I worked as electrician for
Speaker 1: a long time and there's most of these, Like we're
Speaker 1: talking about the chemical power plant hypothesis earlier. Jeffrey Dumb
Speaker 1: from Land of Ken has made a bunch of videos
Speaker 1: about that, and I like a lot of what he
Speaker 1: has to say. These are these aren't outlandish in and
Speaker 1: of themselves, but we do have some problems. Like the
Speaker 1: piezoelectric effect that they talk about quite frequently. That is
Speaker 1: it's real. I mean, you operate the quartz watch, it
Speaker 1: operates a charcoal igniter. That's where your spark comes from
Speaker 1: on those little stars cole wands that you use to
Speaker 1: light year. But there's very specific things that have to
Speaker 1: be done. The crystal has to be sandwiched between pieces
Speaker 1: of metal. You have to separate that current into a
Speaker 1: positive and a negative it so that it's usable, otherwise
Speaker 1: it dissipates immediately. The pyramid is made of limestone, the
Speaker 1: same as the bedrock, so there really isn't a functional
Speaker 1: difference between the pyramid and the ground. So that's going
Speaker 1: to make your electricity just kind of it's going to
Speaker 1: want to seep away as soon as you generate it.
Speaker 1: If to take an entire block that's got little pieces
Speaker 1: of limestone suspended in the matrix, and then to harness
Speaker 1: all the electricity when that block was pressed down on,
Speaker 1: for example, you would have to have all of the
Speaker 1: quartz crystals would have to be magnetically aligned, which that's
Speaker 1: not happening in two top blocks, men, unless you're talking
Speaker 1: lottery winners one after the I mean billion to one
Speaker 1: odds over and over and over for each one of
Speaker 1: those blocks. And then you'd have to sandwich it between metal.
Speaker 1: Like I was saying earlier, you have a piece of
Speaker 1: metal on top and bottom of each bread. So them
Speaker 1: harnessing electricity on the pyramid is something that if I
Speaker 1: was handed that and told to install it, I'd be like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know how the fun is it gonna work?
Speaker 1: Is not going to happen? What? What? What part am
Speaker 1: I missing here? What am I not included with this?
Speaker 1: So I don't see the pizo electric thing. I think
Speaker 1: that one is non it's it's a non starter. So
Speaker 1: that limits a lot of the technological things that I've
Speaker 1: heard come out of the pyramid. Almost all of the
Speaker 1: ones that get into goofy technology. It all tend to
Speaker 1: lean on that, the pizo electric qualities of quartz, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I would like the two little pieces of copper that
Speaker 1: we have in the door, And people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know that kind of carried electricity. It's like the
Speaker 1: voltage drop is a thing and it's it's calculable, and
Speaker 1: you lose electricity based on how far you go. The
Speaker 1: only way to counter that is with bigger pieces of wy.
Speaker 1: So if you drive from a dam to the next
Speaker 1: city and it's like one hundred mile jaunt, you'll notice
Speaker 1: the power cables above you're that fucking bigger round And
Speaker 1: that's not to attract tweakers. That's to keep the electricity
Speaker 1: flying down the road. So in the pyramid, when you
Speaker 1: got these little pieces of wire that are about you know,
Speaker 1: millions of a you know, eighth of an inch thick,
Speaker 1: they ain't carrying very much, especially in the seven hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty foot runs. So yeah, my technical knowledge makes
Speaker 1: it where that there's certain parts of that that I
Speaker 1: am skeptical of. Now I am all about like anything
Speaker 1: that can be demonstrated or or again, like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be cynical. I want to be
Speaker 1: skeptical about things. So i'mfect if somebody talks to me
Speaker 1: about things and shows me where I'm wrong on some
Speaker 1: of this, I'm perfectly happy to discuss it. But by
Speaker 1: and large, as as fast as that electricity is generated
Speaker 1: from the pies of electric effect, that's going to pour
Speaker 1: into the ground.
Speaker 4: So you see those Oh sorry, go ahead, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: all right, Well, I just have kind of like one
Speaker 4: last question, and it's kind of be like long and
Speaker 4: drawn out to one of the reasons. And I'm not
Speaker 4: trying to like say all this to brag. It's just
Speaker 4: my experience where I go along with this story. Now,
Speaker 4: like certain things with you know, you hear about these tombs.
Speaker 4: If you think about the top being on, you can't
Speaker 4: even get the fuck out. If you're in there, probably
Speaker 4: you can't even push the fucking thing off. You hear
Speaker 4: about people going in caskets. When I used to do
Speaker 4: I used to be a ceremonial Still I'm a magician.
Speaker 4: I just haven't really done any rituals, but I used
Speaker 4: to be a ceremonial magician. I used to be a
Speaker 4: member of the Auto Temple Orientis, and I used to
Speaker 4: do ceremonial. You know, shit a lot, and I'll keep
Speaker 4: it real. I used to use the astromargentum hood and
Speaker 4: robe when I did it. Now that has no mouthpiece
Speaker 4: at all. It is just us. So now, if you're
Speaker 4: fumigating and you got all this smoke going on and
Speaker 4: you're supposed to be vibrating these words real hard to exhaustion,
Speaker 4: you're gonna start having oxygen deprivation and you're gonna start
Speaker 4: having fucking weird experiences. So could that be? And what
Speaker 4: I'm getting at is, now, could that be what's being
Speaker 4: used in it? It's kind of a double question. And
Speaker 4: the people who are deeming these areas as rituals, have
Speaker 4: they actually been in one, participated in one, or written
Speaker 4: one themselves to know what a ritual is and what
Speaker 4: the fuck's going on?
Speaker 1: I think some of them have. There is a like
Speaker 1: you can rent the Great Pyramid that have seances in
Speaker 1: and shit like you and numerous people have done that
Speaker 1: over the years. So and I'm you know, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have varying degrees of experience and expertise and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But as far as people like like these different rituals
Speaker 1: affecting your mind, in a certain way. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: almost almost guaranteed to be part of it, right, Like
Speaker 1: you're talking about you're talking about basically you're getting out
Speaker 1: of the out of the realm of scientific inquiry and
Speaker 1: into the realm of personal experience. And there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that. As a matter of fact, it's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things. I babbled about this all the time.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite things about the book or
Speaker 1: the movie Contact, is that if for those of you
Speaker 1: who've seen it, I assume most of you have seen
Speaker 1: it Contact, the one where Jodie Foster falls through the
Speaker 1: little ball and talks to her dad, that's actually an
Speaker 1: alien thing, right, all the scientific skepticism in the world.
Speaker 1: She's a scientist, she's dealing with scientists. Carl Sagan was
Speaker 1: a scientist, an atheist, and when it's all said and done,
Speaker 1: she had a personal experience. Take it or leave it, right, Fuck,
Speaker 1: this is what happened to me. You want you don't
Speaker 1: believe me, go crawl on the ball and fall through
Speaker 1: it your goddamn self. But that's uh, that's how to me.
Speaker 1: That's it's a huge part of it, right, Like, in
Speaker 1: order to have any scientific discussion, you kind of have
Speaker 1: to start from a perceptive, from a from a places.
Speaker 1: You have to make some assumptions, like I have to
Speaker 1: assume that we both exist. You're not a figment of
Speaker 1: my imagination, You're not my dream, and this isn't all
Speaker 1: just my reality is and you're nothing. We have to
Speaker 1: assume that reality exists. We have to assume that, like
Speaker 1: we can learn from reality that if I throw this,
Speaker 1: it's not just going to keep flying eye one time
Speaker 1: and follow the next that I think there's there's patterns.
Speaker 1: And if we make these assumptions, we can have a
Speaker 1: conversation about reality, about science and stuff. But if we don't,
Speaker 1: then one of us can sit here and be like, well, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: but you're just a figment of my imagination anyway, Well
Speaker 1: yeah man, and those kinds of ritual things where you
Speaker 1: where you alter your state of consciousness. This does get
Speaker 1: into things that are I forget a dude's name, but
Speaker 1: who the geneticists that said that LSD helped him crack DNA? Right,
Speaker 1: thank you? This isn't uh, you know, this isn't without precedent.
Speaker 1: You know, the human those spirals that you're talking about
Speaker 1: and stuff earlier those are almost certainly some of these
Speaker 1: symbols that we see all over the place almost certainly
Speaker 1: part of magic mushrooms or you know, peyote or whatever
Speaker 1: the hallucinogen of choice was amongst those people. You definitely
Speaker 1: see it in South American Native Native American art, they
Speaker 1: definitely definitely see it, those zigzags, the lightning bolt patterns.
Speaker 1: That for those of you who have eaten mushrooms, which
Speaker 1: I totally never have, you may or may not see
Speaker 1: those kinds of things. So you know, there's certain certain
Speaker 1: stuff you can recognize. And it's almost why it's it's
Speaker 1: a funny thing to me actually, where so many people
Speaker 1: will be like, oh, Graham does hallucinogens, and therefore his
Speaker 1: his opinion on these things is just all tainted by
Speaker 1: all this goofiness. It's like, Okay, let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question. You think that the guy that was in
Speaker 1: charge of the people and told him to build that pyramid,
Speaker 1: you think that fucker never did no hallucinogens. He was
Speaker 1: a fucking royalty in a time when that shit was like,
Speaker 1: who do you think commissioned him to figure out the
Speaker 1: fucking formula for ayahuasca? You dumb shit, You think it
Speaker 1: was some poor person, some tweaker. No, it was a royalty,
Speaker 1: royalty man, people that were elites. So it's I think
Speaker 1: it's a good lens to look through. A lot of
Speaker 1: that stuff is a hallucinage. A lot of things I
Speaker 1: don't think we'll understand properly without altering our state of consciousness.
Speaker 4: Right, I think that helps. Its kind of like a
Speaker 4: little bit of like a cheek code to magical experience
Speaker 4: in my opinion, kind of like some people take mushrooms,
Speaker 4: or you can go to the extreme like flatliners. The movie. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if you.
Speaker 1: Read Carlos Costanada, Oh yeah, Okay. One of the experiences
Speaker 1: that he spoke of that I thought was really cool
Speaker 1: was there he'd been dosed dozens and dozens of times.
Speaker 1: He had his reality just kicked in multiple times. And
Speaker 1: his shaman sets him sitting looking like meditating, looking across
Speaker 1: the field at a tree, and he sees a white
Speaker 1: dot behind the tree, and then the white dot begins
Speaker 1: to grow and it does all this goofy shit and
Speaker 1: it just fills his mind and he sees all these
Speaker 1: visions and he's sober, he's not on mushrooms at the time.
Speaker 1: And then his shaman ship goes over and walks over
Speaker 1: to the tree and the root the seed of that
Speaker 1: white thing that he saw was a little towel that
Speaker 1: the shaman had tied to the tree. He didn't hallucinate
Speaker 1: any that shaman had planted a seat, right, You know,
Speaker 1: things like that are you know, on the flip side
Speaker 1: of that, I talk about experience, I had a lot
Speaker 1: where I saw something that it wasn't real. I saw
Speaker 1: I got out of the tub when I was young,
Speaker 1: and the window I saw a guy in like a
Speaker 1: hazmat suit like staring at the window and he was
Speaker 1: angry and he's looking right at me. He looked mad,
Speaker 1: and I was like freaking the fuck out, And then
Speaker 1: like I did this instead of turning to run, And
Speaker 1: when I shifted the it was light and fog on
Speaker 1: the window in my imagination, and that made it. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of the reason I'm as skeptical as I
Speaker 1: am because I know that what I saw wasn't real.
Speaker 1: But had I ran out of that room, you still
Speaker 1: couldn't convince me to this day that I hadn't seen it.
Speaker 1: So and this is you know, you get what's where
Speaker 1: why I brought up like these positions we have to
Speaker 1: take because you get it gets philosophical, it gets outside
Speaker 1: of the realm of science. Like Laotseay famously said, last night,
Speaker 1: I dreamt that I was a butter fly or was
Speaker 1: that a butterfly dreaming? He was a loud to say.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's you know, we really these things. We
Speaker 1: really get into the reason that people ask questions about
Speaker 1: God and you know, eternity and all these kinds of
Speaker 1: things because you know, we have these ideas that our
Speaker 1: experience doesn't coincide with we We believe in perfection, we
Speaker 1: believe in infinity. We understand these things, but our experience
Speaker 1: is in no way, shape or form back that up.
Speaker 1: This is just complete that's making.
Speaker 6: It up well and interesting. With brain science, I saw
Speaker 6: an article on the fact that they could go in
Speaker 6: and monitor how the vision perceives an item and then
Speaker 6: how the brain recalls what it is and it'll basically
Speaker 6: shift through different you know, images until it hits the
Speaker 6: right one and then you have the realization. So during
Speaker 6: the time that it's shifting through those things, the potential
Speaker 6: of you know, seeing anything is there. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: So if you put your states yourself into this liminal state.
Speaker 6: Then it's all, you know, platonic subjective reality.
Speaker 1: That's very, very true. And a lot of people will
Speaker 1: say that that's, you know, just a bunch of pseudo
Speaker 1: scientific hippiass wou. But in my opinion, like psychology is
Speaker 1: a fundamental I say it all the time. It's a
Speaker 1: soft science, soft as fuck because it's self reported data,
Speaker 1: so you get like, you know, Epstein's clients didn't say
Speaker 1: that they had these weird fetishes when they were talking
Speaker 1: to their psychiatrists. Right, The people less self report tend
Speaker 1: to fucking lie. But but if you don't look through
Speaker 1: all this stuff through the lens of psychology, you're gonna
Speaker 1: fall into so many pitfalls. You know. One of the
Speaker 1: best thought tools I use for this is just to
Speaker 1: look at the electromagnetic spectrum and then look at that
Speaker 1: tiny little sliver that you can actually sus we have
Speaker 1: to build tools to go on and see everything else.
Speaker 4: That is a good point too.
Speaker 1: We're a little fuck we're little monkeys with these crazy
Speaker 1: ideas and lofty, lofty ideas. Oh, we could be perfect,
Speaker 1: we could never sin, we could make this world where
Speaker 1: nobody ever suffered in all this and then yeah, but
Speaker 1: when I get off here, I'm gonna go eat something
Speaker 1: that was a live. Fuck that thing. It's dead now.
Speaker 1: It's probably like one hundred things ground together. And then
Speaker 1: maybe I'll go fuck something after I take a dump.
Speaker 1: We're just, oh fuck, We're just We're just animals. We're
Speaker 1: fucking animals.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 8: I wanted to bring up an example of the anthropomorphic
Speaker 8: tummy holding you mentioned earlier. In terms of a modern
Speaker 8: iteration of monkeys.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 8: The wise monkeys are usually known as the three wise monkeys.
Speaker 8: Hear no evil, Speak no evil, see no evil, excuse me?
Speaker 8: The three there is the missing fourth, the often unpresented
Speaker 8: fourth monkey, who is called fear no evil. And this
Speaker 8: monkey holds his dantienne or center in Chinese, below the
Speaker 8: belly button where our energy is stored and amidst from
Speaker 8: in Daoist consensuality. But he's holding the center and being
Speaker 8: fearless and unmoved compared to the other monkeys that are
Speaker 8: partial minded and so forth. I wonder what you think
Speaker 8: of that, and maybe if you could break down some
Speaker 8: more of that global symbolism of the tummy holding.
Speaker 1: Nice. Oh yeah, the well, first of all, I love Daoism,
Speaker 1: and I do I think it's a great example of
Speaker 1: the Dowada seeing is a book of basic proverbs and truth,
Speaker 1: and that it quickly gets into the weeds with with
Speaker 1: further books, but some of them still they still contain
Speaker 1: secret like uh little a lot of times a little
Speaker 1: glimpses of truth, but like probably the most advanced Dallas
Speaker 1: text I've read was the Secret of the Golden Flower.
Speaker 1: And by the time you get there, you are definitely
Speaker 1: into the weeds, as far as you are no longer
Speaker 1: one with water. I let's just put it that way.
Speaker 1: You're built, understand, you straight along ways from just trying
Speaker 1: to not do anything and not be anything, and not
Speaker 1: fight with yourself and not strive you. You've come a
Speaker 1: long way from the Talita sing at this point. But
Speaker 1: it is uh, it is interesting that that that they
Speaker 1: do believe that the seat of the chakra stuff aligns
Speaker 1: a lot with this the kundolini and all that aligns
Speaker 1: well with the idea of the holding of the navel.
Speaker 1: Now that the naval stuff pops up again with metallurgy
Speaker 1: and or agriculture almost everywhere you see it. It's almost
Speaker 1: like it was this knowledge that this packet that was
Speaker 1: passed around and that it was like do people would
Speaker 1: learn how to to farm, they would learn how to smelt,
Speaker 1: and at the same time they would start making these
Speaker 1: This motif was one of the motifs that would prop
Speaker 1: up And honestly, it seems pretty basic to me. What
Speaker 1: what it represents? You know, if but again we're we're
Speaker 1: runn animals, right, But if I've got so much food
Speaker 1: that I don't need to be a running animal, I
Speaker 1: can put my hand on my stomach and just to
Speaker 1: symbolize that I'm full. And that even goes to what
Speaker 1: the ones in the task teple our culture. A lot
Speaker 1: of times they're literally holding their dick in their hand.
Speaker 1: And if you've got no TV and nothing to do
Speaker 1: all day because you have a surplus of food, what
Speaker 1: will you be doing? So, as you know, these ancient people,
Speaker 1: they fucked a lot, and so these were symbols of
Speaker 1: these things. I personally think that that was like part
Speaker 1: of the symbody. It was braggered, Look, I've got time,
Speaker 1: we make better tools, we store more food, and to
Speaker 1: prove it. Look, and then you look at the statues
Speaker 1: of women. They made the same kind of thing. Look,
Speaker 1: our women are so fucking fat. They can't even get
Speaker 1: off the chair. They're fed. It's they had some very
Speaker 1: weird ideas that would show up in this initial run
Speaker 1: of agriculture, and.
Speaker 6: You see it woven all through the mythology as well.
Speaker 1: You do you do you see that same fat woman
Speaker 1: with animal on both sides. A lot of the Master
Speaker 1: of Beese are overweight women, and yeah, yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: very that that master of bee symbol is in my mind,
Speaker 1: part of that same whole thing where it's like we
Speaker 1: these these things used to chase us. Now we cage
Speaker 1: them and trade them. Right, I'm gonna just go yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's we are our whole other level now. And
Speaker 1: so that that's shown with an obese woman is like
Speaker 1: everything a prehistoric dude would want. Here. Here's here's a
Speaker 1: naked chick. She's got plenty of food, and she's mastered animals.
Speaker 1: It's like ready to reproduce to yeah. Oh yeah, clearly
Speaker 1: if she hasn't already right right, yeah, it's it is funny.
Speaker 1: One of the theories, one of the hypotheses I should
Speaker 1: say that the anthropologists have for those venus statues is
Speaker 1: that they were like prehistoric porn, like some some kid
Speaker 1: takes a little statue behind the tree. I tell it, dude,
Speaker 1: like you couldn't just hang out like by the tenth
Speaker 1: the chicks for standing by or some would look at
Speaker 1: it every now and again, and I gotta spend like
Speaker 1: two hundred hours. I personally never bought that hypothesis, but
Speaker 1: I've always mocked it because it's funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't get that either.
Speaker 4: I've even pointed out the internet to go on. And
Speaker 4: I just do think there might be something behind it,
Speaker 4: because you mentioned venuses a lot of times like she'll
Speaker 4: Bey's shown just like one breast showing.
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to show a case with just my idea
Speaker 4: of the Knox formula from Crowley. I think a lot
Speaker 4: of it has to do with the optic nerve and
Speaker 4: and crossing, you know, certain shit like that, and in uh,
Speaker 4: you know, part of his ritual he does have you
Speaker 4: act like your isis busfeeding. You know, nipple will be
Speaker 4: exposed when the baby puts its mouth on the nipple.
Speaker 4: It actually connects to the mother's paniol glend right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: and this hold up baby is gonna know where it
Speaker 4: is the time and day and all that from the
Speaker 4: month's panial gland. So I mean, maybe it's not that
Speaker 4: deep because I know Crawley, you know, people think things
Speaker 4: out him. I'm not saying he was a great guy either,
Speaker 4: but maybe there is some science in there. Maybe there isn't,
Speaker 4: but I mean, there is a definite connection with breastfeeding
Speaker 4: in the pineal glands from both his mother and child.
Speaker 4: So I do wonder if that's even being symbolized in
Speaker 4: there as other things. Those other things, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I had one. I used to do ebail a lot
Speaker 1: for a living, and I uh stumbled across that Crowley's
Speaker 1: tarot deck once and sold that for a few hundred bucks.
Speaker 1: That was a good it's a good fine. Apparently it's
Speaker 1: pretty rare.
Speaker 4: I've seen I've seen people on there actually showing like
Speaker 4: I think original printings. Yeah, for a few hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: I wonder if one of them was you. When I
Speaker 4: was looking, oh years years ago, when I was looking
Speaker 4: at I was like, damn, these things are expensive.
Speaker 1: Fuck man, They're crazy expensive. It's that's tough. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: before before the Internet and as the Internet archive archiving
Speaker 1: all the books and stuff, man, like I got a uh,
Speaker 1: I've got a paperback, like bootleg copy of a book
Speaker 1: that was like hundreds of dollars up until maybe five
Speaker 1: years ago, ten years ago, And now you can just
Speaker 1: get you get on the internet and press some buttons
Speaker 1: and view it in any different So now the original
Speaker 1: printings are even down to like one hundred bucks and stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there for a while, man, a lot of
Speaker 1: that knowledge was really really hard to get your hands on.
Speaker 1: Not much of it is anymore. Every now and again,
Speaker 1: I'll come across a book like that, the book that
Speaker 1: dud low me. He's I'm going to stack of books
Speaker 1: over there that he's lowed me that Most of those
Speaker 1: I can't find on the internet archive, which is kind
Speaker 1: of cool. But you know, when I was doing they
Speaker 1: first started busted out with chat GPT and all that shit.
Speaker 1: I started like checking magazines and I would advertise them
Speaker 1: that way to college students. It's like, this is not
Speaker 1: archived on chat GPT, so in other words, by this
Speaker 1: plagiarize it, your teacher won't be able to find out
Speaker 1: you did it. But those those doors are slowly being shut. Now.
Speaker 1: All this shit's getting archived.
Speaker 4: Now, Jenny, anybody ahead that gay? No, No, was there
Speaker 4: anything else that you would like to make. You know what,
Speaker 4: why don't you if you don't mind, I was gonna
Speaker 4: ask you before we wrapped it up, do you want
Speaker 4: to give people an idea about this conference, like what
Speaker 4: you're doing there and and what maybe you might be
Speaker 4: I don't know if you already have an idea what
Speaker 4: you're talking on, but maybe tease.
Speaker 1: The people I'm gonna be covering. Uh, I'm gonna be.
Speaker 1: My plan is there's research that I'm doing now with
Speaker 1: that book that I showed you and stuff. I'm planning
Speaker 1: on making a video and on that and then covering
Speaker 1: it in more detail in the conference. And this is
Speaker 1: this is a pretty this this this one wraps up
Speaker 1: so many different goofy ship that I'm investing a lot
Speaker 1: of time into it. I'm swinging for the fences on
Speaker 1: because I think this story is interesting enough that I
Speaker 1: want to I'm filling in all these little holes. But uh,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be about some elogated school stuff you've never
Speaker 1: heard before. It gets into Rockefellers and Lewis and Clark
Speaker 1: and all kinds of goofy ships and free freemasonry, all
Speaker 1: kinds of goofy shit. But the conference is the Quest
Speaker 1: for Ancient Civilizations. It's going to be in Scottsdale, Arizona,
Speaker 1: December fifth through seventh. If you can't make it, you
Speaker 1: can buy streaming passes to watch the people's talk that'll
Speaker 1: be there. But this would be aj from y Files,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Corsetti, Gary Buckler from Nerdrotic, who else. We got
Speaker 1: Mike from Wandering Wolf, Michael Button. There's a bunch of
Speaker 1: people there, Megalithmania. Yeah, you have a bunch of people there.
Speaker 1: It's definitely gonna be fun. And if you for those
Speaker 1: of you who didn't catch me at the Cosmic Summit,
Speaker 1: but you catch me at these kinds of events the
Speaker 1: nights in between, man I go, I go, so show up,
Speaker 1: be ready to party.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll definitely be around. I have to say that thing.
Speaker 4: I was always out and chilling with people, so we
Speaker 4: will have a fun. Yeah, No, I had, I was, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I had a blessed I was.
Speaker 1: Oh I had. I had a great time.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: It was a ton of fun. But yeah, I definitely
Speaker 1: definitely want to definitely want to promote that December fifth
Speaker 1: through seventh. There's links on my channel. If there's none here,
Speaker 1: you go check out my latest videos. There'll be links
Speaker 1: to it and uh quest for Ancient Civilizations in Scottsdale, Arizona.
Speaker 4: Awesome. Yes, yeah, definitely people check it out if you can. Again,
Speaker 4: thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 3: Dan.
Speaker 4: Before before we wrap it up, if you don't mind,
Speaker 4: I'll have everybody plug themselves and then you can remind
Speaker 4: everybody where to find your stuff. So real quick, sour,
Speaker 4: just let everybody know what's up.
Speaker 3: Well, this was fun, This was informative as always, and
Speaker 3: I always say it's good anytime we can get together
Speaker 3: and exchange wisdom. I mean, I'm not much of a
Speaker 3: history person, but I do have an interest in go
Speaker 3: Bickley so and I feel like you're quite knowledgeable on that.
Speaker 3: So I've learned a lot and I appreciate you sharing
Speaker 3: some pieces of your puzzle with everyone.
Speaker 8: So I'm Sarah.
Speaker 3: You can find me at Sahara Cosmos on X and
Speaker 3: you can check out our podcast Universe Unveiled on YouTube
Speaker 3: or anywhere you get podcasts.
Speaker 4: Awesome, and thank you so much for coming on. I
Speaker 4: appreciate it. Hey, Tyrow, what.
Speaker 1: Is going on?
Speaker 2: Sir La appreciated? Nick, thank you, thank you. How's everybody
Speaker 2: and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I know everybody you know got a plethora knowledge out here,
Speaker 7: so I know their minds are blown right now.
Speaker 2: I know mine is. I took some notes and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. I really appreciate it Dan Nick having me.
Speaker 7: Everything that you can find on me is on my
Speaker 7: website Rebirth Oftheword dot com, my book Journey through the
Speaker 7: Origins of Histories on Amazon.
Speaker 2: And thank you to everybody for letting me be here.
Speaker 4: Of course, thank you, sir. I appreciate it and needing
Speaker 4: then to go what is going on?
Speaker 8: So that was awesome. Thank you so much for sharing
Speaker 8: all your information and I learned a lot. I appreciate
Speaker 8: everything and always great to talk with everyone. And I'm
Speaker 8: super easy to find. I didn't always appreciate communication, so
Speaker 8: don't hesitate to reach out Ethan Indigo Smith.
Speaker 4: Soone, thank you mister Mark Mark.
Speaker 6: Yes, thanks for having me on Nick and it was
Speaker 6: a great conversation. Thanks for everything, Dan. If you want
Speaker 6: to check out my stuff, you can check out my
Speaker 6: link tree which is r M A r X and
Speaker 6: that has my artwork my Patreon. I do a lot
Speaker 6: of research and the Metal Mind Cast and you can
Speaker 6: check out all the backlogs of those episodes and that's it.
Speaker 4: Thanks, thank you, sir, and my man, Doc Brin what
Speaker 4: is going on now?
Speaker 9: I mean, I've enjoyed myself.
Speaker 10: I was gonna make a little caddy joke and be
Speaker 10: like I've been like Pink Floyd during this session. I've
Speaker 10: been comfortably numb my whole left side of my face. Bro,
Speaker 10: I could even feel it.
Speaker 4: If it was feeling worse right now or not.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I wouldn't have missed this freething dan apology stuff
Speaker 10: for a while. Man, I was not going to miss
Speaker 10: the opportunity to sit down and convert with you, and
Speaker 10: you did disappoint I appreciate it, man. But yeah, my
Speaker 10: show is Prometheus Lynn's podcast anywhere you can consume content,
Speaker 10: go check that out. We're always having enlightening conversations each
Speaker 10: and every week. And my book also just come out
Speaker 10: this year at the epic of Esau, the Birthright and
Speaker 10: seed whar we get into Bigfoot and the Bible.
Speaker 9: And all kinds of how strange seness. So yeah, be
Speaker 9: sure check that out. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Listen, thank you so much for making it, my man,
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. And Bennett, my man what's.
Speaker 5: Up Dan, It's such a pleasure to talk to you.
Speaker 5: Appreciate it. You can find me at broadcasting seeds dot com.
Speaker 5: That's about it.
Speaker 4: Thanks a loving and finally, Dan, thank you again so much.
Speaker 4: I really really appreciated you coming on. You really have
Speaker 4: like a ton of plethora of information in so many
Speaker 4: different areas. It's very impressive and I really I appreciate
Speaker 4: you even you know, I guess entertaining some of my
Speaker 4: weirder questions and giving me this as you could. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 4: Can you can you please let everybody know again like
Speaker 4: where they can find all your stuff one more time?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, thank you Nick, and thanks everyone. This was
Speaker 1: This was a great conversation, some really great questions. See,
Speaker 1: you can find me as de dunking two d's like
Speaker 1: my ex not debunking de dunking. Now you're all good.
Speaker 1: You're not the first person to make that mistake. But
Speaker 1: if you type in a D D usually all come
Speaker 1: up fairly quick. I'm on X, I'm on Instagram, I'm
Speaker 1: on YouTube, I used to be on TikTok. There's still
Speaker 1: an accounter that every now and again, somebody sends me
Speaker 1: something that I'll ever looked at it. It's my son,
Speaker 1: but yeah, YouTube x or Instagram or the places defined
Speaker 1: me or you can also find me at patreot or
Speaker 1: you can find me at the Cosmic Summit, or it's Scottsdale, Arizona,
Speaker 1: December fifth through seventh.
Speaker 4: Awesome, Yes, and uh again, we all really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: It was an amazing experience and thank you everybody in
Speaker 4: the chat. That is what's up. Everybody was here pretty
Speaker 4: much from the beginning to end. It looks like and
Speaker 4: there's a lot of you's in there. You can of
Speaker 4: appreciate you stopping by, and that's where we go live.
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of awesome stuff added in there too,
Speaker 4: So people checking the replay, I suggest to check out
Speaker 4: the live chat. They always got some gems in there
Speaker 4: as well. That is the end of another Recult Rejects
Speaker 4: until the next one. Everybody be well later