WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see, something's going to happen? 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:10.599 What? What's going to happen? 3 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:15.519 What? 4 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:28.879 Welcome to the Occult Rejects. This episode, we got a 5 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:31.960 very very very special guest, somebody I'm really excited to 6 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:33.719 get on the show and somebody I was lucky enough 7 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:36.320 to personally meet at the Cosmic Summit with Tyrone. But 8 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:38.600 until we get to that guest, uh, we're going to 9 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:41.039 introduce the other rejects that are on the show, and 10 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:43.200 we got with us Sorrow. What is going on? Saraw 11 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:44.719 from Universe Unveiled? How's it going? 12 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:49.679 Hey? Hey, how's everyone doing? I'm glad to be here again. 13 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:54.679 We actually covered the go Bickley Tippy statue yesterday on 14 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.200 our news segment, so I'm so excited to hear about 15 00:00:57.200 --> 00:00:59.359 it from someone who knows more about it than I do. 16 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:01.600 So I'm Sarah. 17 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:05.359 I'm director of public relations for Institute for Natural Philosophy 18 00:01:05.480 --> 00:01:09.359 and co host of Universal Unveiled podcast and looking forward 19 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:09.599 to it. 20 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:10.959 Yeah. 21 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:12.959 So am I very much loving good to this and 22 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:15.319 thank you very much for joining us. And we got 23 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:18.519 Tyroll of course, you got Tyrol. What is going on? 24 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:18.719 Sir? 25 00:01:18.799 --> 00:01:22.359 I will you what's up? Everybody? What's up? Dan Donkeyan, 26 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:23.719 he is glad to see you again. 27 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:23.959 Man. 28 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:26.319 I know you be on the move and you're busy, man. 29 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:28.519 So appreciate you for being here with us today, and 30 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:30.680 thanks Nick for letting me be here with you guys. 31 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:34.200 Also, and fellow rejects. What's going on, Ethan? 32 00:01:34.480 --> 00:01:36.680 I love your man, so he's going to talk about 33 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:39.400 that when he comes up here to promote himself. But 34 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:41.439 everything you can find on me is on my website, 35 00:01:41.519 --> 00:01:44.799 Rebirth of theWord dot com. And my book Journey through 36 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:47.400 the Origins of History is on Amazon. You can get 37 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:50.159 that best selling copy on there. Thank you appreciate it, 38 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:51.319 of course. 39 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:53.480 Thank you for making it man, I appreciate it. And 40 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:55.879 we got my boy Athan Indigo. How goes it, sir? 41 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:01.200 Thank you Nick for putting this together. Everyone. Always honored 42 00:02:01.239 --> 00:02:04.879 to be with you guys and learn from you. Yeah, 43 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:08.199 author of a few books and really looking forward to 44 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:10.960 uh hear what you have to say about Kobuki tapy, 45 00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:17.159 ground baking, groundbreaking topic, right, So appreciate you, appreciate everybody. 46 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:19.719 Of course I appreciate you making it, sir. And we 47 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:22.360 got my man, the storyteller himself, Robbie Marx. What is 48 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:22.919 going on sir. 49 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:29.520 Hello everyone, I am Robbie Marx. I'm an artist, illustrator, 50 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:33.840 researcher currently writing a book on Nimrod. And if you 51 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:36.159 want to check out my stuff as far as my 52 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:39.319 art or even my podcast and Metal Mind Cast, you 53 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:41.479 can check out my link tree which is link tree 54 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:42.759 r M A r X. 55 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:46.120 Thanks Nick, awesome, awesome, Thank you very much for making it, sir. 56 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:48.439 Definitely go check out his work. And last one, not 57 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:50.919 least for the people joining us here with Dan and 58 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:53.080 we got Doc Brown. He made it. I was ninety 59 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:54.680 three percent sure he was going to make it in time. 60 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:56.080 Ninety three percent. 61 00:02:56.280 --> 00:03:01.000 Brother was pull in the driveway, glad to be be 62 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:03.199 a part of this. And guys that look over me 63 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:05.120 and my face is swollen. I just got out of 64 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:08.439 the dance, but I wanted to not miss hanging out 65 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:11.199 and talking with Dan, so I made it. But for me, 66 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:14.960 this lands podcasting where you can consume content. Authored my 67 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:18.479 first book, the Epic of Esau, The Birthright and Seed War, 68 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:20.039 and I'm just take them to death. 69 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:21.199 Be here, guys. I'm excited. 70 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:23.400 Hell yeah, man, I'm really really glad you're able to 71 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:25.000 make it. This guy's little g he just had teeth 72 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:26.840 pulled out of his mouth, and he still jumped on us. 73 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:28.639 Right here. 74 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:32.639 So finally to the man himself, we got Dan Richards 75 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:36.199 aka Debunking Dan. Please let everybody know what your deal 76 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:37.879 is and what you're about, serf, they don't know who 77 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:38.439 you are already. 78 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.120 Well, hello, thanks for the invite. I really appreciate it's 79 00:03:41.159 --> 00:03:43.120 great to meet all of you, of those of you 80 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:46.479 I haven't met before. My name is Dan Richards. I 81 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:50.520 go by D Donkey online. I basically started with a 82 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:54.879 lot of fact checking scientists that would debunk Graham Hancock 83 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:57.080 and guys like that, where a lot of times they 84 00:03:57.159 --> 00:04:00.240 just misrepresent science. And I'm pretty big on the scientific method. 85 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:02.280 I'm pretty big on it to the point where it's 86 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:05.840 I there's no better path to truth. There might be 87 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:08.719 other ways to find truth, but there's no better, more 88 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:12.879 consistent there's any group of humans to use the science 89 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:16.800 it finds learns period in the story. And so when 90 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:19.639 I see the scientific method kind of being treated like 91 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:22.639 a just like a huge old knock ideas out of 92 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:25.800 the platform august off of the it's stupid, it's bullshit. 93 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:28.560 So I ended up starting making videos about that, and 94 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:30.800 now I just I talk about a lot of different 95 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:33.959 things too, from a pretty skeptical point of view a 96 00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:36.199 lot of the times. I mean, I all entertain things, 97 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:37.920 but you're going to take me there. You're we're not 98 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:40.439 going from zero from zero to aliens if you and 99 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:41.800 you're not going to keep me on board, if you're 100 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:44.279 going from zero to aliens, I'll be getting off at 101 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:44.839 the first stop. 102 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:49.360 No, I think I could say the same thing for 103 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:52.600 myself real quick too. Oh you know what, we have 104 00:04:52.639 --> 00:04:55.040 another I totally forgot we had this guy coming on too, 105 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:56.800 and I never sent them the link. So before we 106 00:04:56.839 --> 00:04:58.639 get into a trantant, you just wanted to do yourself 107 00:04:58.680 --> 00:04:59.560 real quick. I'm I'm sorry. 108 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:06.480 I Bennett from broadcasting Seeds Podcasts. That's it, man, all right, listen, 109 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:09.519 I'm glad i'm here. Thanks for inviting me, of course, everybody. 110 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:13.279 Yeah, yeah, So Dan, the one thing I have to 111 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:15.480 say I do like about you. Well, I mean, back 112 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:16.639 in the day you used to talk a lot more 113 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:18.360 shit online. You seem to have me beat on that. 114 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:20.680 It's it's quite funny reading some of your posts. 115 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:24.319 Well, thanks, I take less time on Twitter than I 116 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:28.560 used to. But yeah, I basically I mean I hate 117 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:30.439 to be so simplistic about it, but when it comes 118 00:05:30.439 --> 00:05:33.399 to Twitter in particular, it's like there's I basically want 119 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:35.800 you into one of two categories real quick. Either you're 120 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:37.839 trying to have a real conversation, you're just trying to 121 00:05:37.839 --> 00:05:39.879 throw shit. If you're trying to throw somebody, I've been 122 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:42.639 doing that since the eighties on the bulletin board services. 123 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:46.639 You're gonna find your woefully equipped for this discussion. 124 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:50.480 Definitely. Yeah, you definitely can throw some shade. It's pretty good. 125 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:53.079 All right. So I want to go Blacky, Yeah, go 126 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:55.399 go buy uh. 127 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:57.360 A big pile of rocks over in Turkey. 128 00:05:57.439 --> 00:05:57.639 Yeah. 129 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:01.000 Yeah, Well it's like oil, we should go take that ship. 130 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:05.480 There's some oil under that. We need that ship. You 131 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:07.319 guys need some freedom. We're coming. 132 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:11.160 People need some freedom, brother, right, that's right. 133 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:13.639 You haven't see that egle, that ego meme where it's 134 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:16.319 like we heard this, we heard this oil on Jupiter. 135 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:23.160 I think we need you guys need some freedom up there. Yeah, so, uh, 136 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:25.839 what got you? Uh? I mean, I guess I can 137 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:27.879 understand what God you looking into that, But like you know, 138 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:29.839 with this whole new statue and everything going on, what 139 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:31.560 do you what do you think about that whole site 140 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:32.600 in general, what's. 141 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:35.439 Going on in general? I mean, it's it's pretty intriguing. 142 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:38.879 I think Graham Hancock has a pretty decent hypothesis that 143 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.800 it was like a place where they were a transference 144 00:06:42.800 --> 00:06:45.000 of knowledge was taking place. I'd take it a step 145 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.759 further than Go Beckley Teppe. But when Graham first formed 146 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:50.920 his hypothesis, that was really all that there was known of. 147 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.600 But there's a whole taest Teplar however you pronounce on 148 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:57.680 tense test tepelar culture that was all over that part 149 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:02.079 of Anatolia, and different areas have very different things, but 150 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:06.560 it's all innovative. That's the first thing that's of note 151 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:08.600 to me is that everything you see there is just 152 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:11.120 it's not just a little bit. It's a huge fucking 153 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:13.560 step above everything else that you see in the region. 154 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:15.560 They're like, oh, well, we see this built up. You'll 155 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:17.800 see a pile of stones laid out in a circle 156 00:07:17.879 --> 00:07:21.399 somewhere that was meant to and form a little enclosure 157 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:23.360 so that they could build a platform to keep grain 158 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:25.160 off the floor, to keep the rats out of it. 159 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:27.639 But you compare that to what you see at Go 160 00:07:27.720 --> 00:07:30.639 Beckley tape or car on tape as feel those other sites, 161 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:32.600 and it's just it's not even close. There's a ton 162 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:36.480 of symbolism here. I honestly think go Beckley Tepe. You know, 163 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:39.600 when archaeologists say that they only excavate a small percentage 164 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:41.720 of a site, that is true. But I think Go 165 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:44.279 Beckley Tepe is one of the ones that's a good 166 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:47.439 candidate for pushing for total excavation, just because of the 167 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:51.040 huge variation in symbols that we see and at the 168 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:53.600 time in our human history that it is. Even if 169 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:56.399 you look at it from just a mainstream perspective, there's 170 00:07:56.439 --> 00:07:58.879 a very good chance that that's the beginning of written 171 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:02.720 language over those pillars. But we're never going to discern shit. 172 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:04.560 I mean, you just ask a code breaker to figure 173 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:06.879 out a code with only ten characters out of two hundred, 174 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:09.560 and he's gonna laugh at you. So we're never going 175 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:11.040 to figure it out if we don't dig more. 176 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:15.680 Yeah, you think so, you think language, the first rate language, 177 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:16.319 came from there. 178 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:18.680 I think that there's a very good chance that the 179 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:21.560 first written language, at least in modern times. I mean, 180 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:26.079 when all those different there's all those different animals and 181 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:29.639 they're quite often, Like have you seen the work of 182 00:08:29.639 --> 00:08:33.240 Martin Sweatman on the calendar on pillar forty three? I'm 183 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:38.240 sure some of you here on YouTube, yeah, doctor Martin Sweatman. Yeah. 184 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:42.200 He talks about pillar forty three on go Beckley Tepe 185 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:44.159 and how it's a calendar, and he goes into some 186 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:46.840 pretty good details to show you what the different marks 187 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:50.840 could mean. And there's a lot of that kind of 188 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:52.879 thing where you have not just a snake, but you 189 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:55.919 have this motif of snakes going down together all across 190 00:08:55.960 --> 00:08:57.600 the side of a pillar, and then it doesn't happen 191 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:00.279 again on any other pillar for five enclosures, and then 192 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:02.919 it happens again on another one more pillar. These kinds 193 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:05.279 of things to me, they don't seem random or haphazard, 194 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:07.799 And just like you know some kid picking designs in 195 00:09:07.879 --> 00:09:11.919 different places, they're most likely had some meaning and we 196 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:14.000 can either be lazy about it and say, yeah, you know, 197 00:09:14.039 --> 00:09:17.080 it's probably ritualistic or symbolic or something, or we could 198 00:09:17.799 --> 00:09:20.639 try to suss what it meant. And you know, one 199 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:22.639 of those sounds like actual work, and one of those, 200 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:25.120 you know you talk about on YouTube a whole lot easier. 201 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.440 Check out those cool fucking pictures. Right, look at that animal, 202 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:29.720 but we're not getting anywhere with that. 203 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.240 Have you looked into Louvian anagrams. I'm friends with doctor 204 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:38.159 jud Burton and doctor Aaron Jenkins. They wrote a book 205 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:42.320 on that called The Coding go beck Ley, and he 206 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:46.039 was saying that a lot of those markings look like Luvian, 207 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:48.320 like Luvian anagrams or something like that. 208 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:49.720 No, I'm saying that, right. 209 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:52.559 No, I have. I've that book for on my radar, 210 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:56.200 but I haven't read it yet. But no, that would 211 00:09:56.200 --> 00:09:58.519 make a lot of sense. I mean there's you know, 212 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:00.879 there's a ton of symbol that we see. Look at 213 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:03.519 if you look at just the statues at the moai 214 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:05.960 at Eastern Island, and the way the hands on those 215 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:09.279 and the hands on the big tea pillars are. I mean, 216 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:12.039 it's you know, you have to kind of try to 217 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:14.159 deny that there's some sort of connection there. So I 218 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:17.799 wouldn't be surprised if again, I personally think it was 219 00:10:17.840 --> 00:10:20.519 a good chance it It is a transference point of 220 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:22.919 technology that whole region, So I wouldn't be surprised if 221 00:10:22.919 --> 00:10:25.360 we see symbolism there that spread throughout the world, which 222 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:27.879 in a lot of ways we do that naval holding statue. 223 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:30.799 If you look, you'll see those in Sardinia, in the 224 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:33.320 New World, even all across the world, you'll see those 225 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:36.720 guys with their hands on their tummy, and generally it 226 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:41.480 shows up with the advent of either agriculture and or metallurgy. 227 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:45.679 Big shout out to Graham Langdon for his book Who 228 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:49.960 was This Mystery of the they were holding statues and 229 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:52.200 they were holding idols. It's on Amazon and it is 230 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:54.720 It is a book worth reading. I don't usually promote 231 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:57.320 people's stuff without giving me money, but I'll promote that one. 232 00:10:58.399 --> 00:10:59.360 You'll me money, Graham. 233 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:04.039 That's interesting, you say metallurgy because I promote this and 234 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:07.279 talk about this a lot. Anton Parks has this book 235 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:10.000 called Eden and in this book and I promoted it 236 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:13.679 on Twitter x plenty of times, and he says that, Okay, 237 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:16.519 you know, I'm very familiar with the Sumerians, and you 238 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:18.840 know I'm very familiar. I don't believe the you know, 239 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:21.759 the I'm coming from planet Nepro type bullshit, but it 240 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:27.039 does says in there that Inky gave knowledge to what 241 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:31.080 is known as eve right, and the knowledge that was 242 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:36.320 given was metallurgy. That's what the forbidden Fruit was representing, 243 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:39.360 because it was for good and evil, the tree of good, 244 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:41.879 you know, tree of knowledge and stuff like that, and 245 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:46.679 it was for metallurgy for agriculture. And he talks about 246 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:51.759 exactly what cuneiform tablet says it the cuneiform tabt identifiers. 247 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:56.240 I think, like one of them is like CBS eighty 248 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:57.759 three eighty three or something like that. But I have 249 00:11:57.799 --> 00:11:59.399 it on next I can bring it up, but it's 250 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:02.600 on there. And he compares it to what's written next 251 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:05.039 to the Bible and Eno, because you know, in the 252 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:07.320 Book of Eno, Get talks about how you know, these 253 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:11.480 fallen angels gave knowledge and metal and certain stuff to humans. 254 00:12:12.720 --> 00:12:15.000 But then the kicker comes into whether they were following 255 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:17.720 angels that came from heaven or where they came from, 256 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:22.679 you know, somewhere else. And it's interesting because the metallurgy, 257 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:27.720 when you look across all civilizations around the world, metallurgy 258 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:31.240 is a big part. Whether it's bronze, copper, ten, you know, 259 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:36.679 it doesn't matter, and symbolically it means something to them. 260 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.919 And just like you said, you know, go back to 261 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:40.480 the tepee. 262 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:42.759 You know, there's a type of technology and I like 263 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:44.159 the way you said technology. 264 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:47.240 So I always try to wonder, what what is. 265 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:50.320 Your explanation of what type of what kind of advanced 266 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:52.639 technology they might have had, because you know when people 267 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.679 say technology, they I consider you know, advanced technology being 268 00:12:57.559 --> 00:13:00.399 going from throwing rocks at animals to kill in them 269 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:02.720 to creating a bowl and arrow and bow and arrow 270 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:05.919 would be an advanced type of technology versus the throwing 271 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:08.039 the rock portion. So what is your idea of a 272 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:11.360 technology and fast the realm of those people who were 273 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:12.639 you know at that time. 274 00:13:13.360 --> 00:13:17.399 Well, if you're talking about people that were presumably pretty 275 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:19.120 good with boats, right, I mean if they rowed out 276 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:20.960 the flood, they would have had to have known something 277 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:25.279 about it, so they would have an idea of how 278 00:13:25.360 --> 00:13:28.840 to use like ropes and rigging. Potentially they would definitely 279 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:30.840 know how to use the stars to navigate. They would 280 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:32.720 be really good at teamwork. These are all things that 281 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:35.639 we see on sailing vessels that are low tached. I mean, 282 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:37.799 this isn't like it's complicated to do any of those, 283 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:41.559 but those skill sets put together would immediately like transfer 284 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:44.960 to being able to move some pretty big rocks and 285 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:48.360 align them to stars, And that wouldn't be difficult at 286 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:51.120 all for a culture that was used to having these 287 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.440 guys pull ropes together to raise the sail or to 288 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:55.120 do this or to do that. It wouldn't be very 289 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:57.200 difficult at all to have them work together to raise 290 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.279 a big rock and align it to the star that 291 00:13:59.360 --> 00:14:01.559 you follow when you at sea. So I think that 292 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:03.480 right there would be a big part of it. I 293 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:08.399 also think that that sailing necessitates a degree of a 294 00:14:08.440 --> 00:14:11.759 transference of knowledge to another generation. If you look at Polynesians, 295 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:15.279 they've got these little goofy things what they do with sticks, 296 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:17.600 where the kids will weave sticks together to make these 297 00:14:17.639 --> 00:14:21.240 little little cross shaped things. At what they are is 298 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:24.799 the representation of waves on how they break off of islands, 299 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:27.960 so that each one of these sticks represents little things. 300 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:30.039 It's just a way for them to hand their kid 301 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:33.480 their knowledge. And then over time you would presumably these 302 00:14:33.480 --> 00:14:35.519 things would change a little bit as people would learn 303 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:39.840 new things, so that right off the bat, I think 304 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:42.879 that they would have, you know, they would want to 305 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:44.799 have some sort of way to write, some sort of 306 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:47.840 way to transfer their knowledge to the next generation. And 307 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:49.919 I also I wouldn't be surprised at all if they 308 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:53.200 were really good with basic tuber food stuffs. If you 309 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:57.440 look at again, Polynesians when they settle someplace, they don't 310 00:14:57.440 --> 00:15:00.440 show up with a damn thing that if they can't 311 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:01.919 sit it, just throw it next to them on the 312 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:04.159 bottom of the boat and ride out the voyage. They 313 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:07.399 don't take it. And almost almost everything they eat is 314 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:09.440 a tuber as far as what they bring with them 315 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:13.360 to a new land. And so I personally think that 316 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:15.279 we could look to that for some idea of what 317 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:17.480 we could expect to see from go Beckley Teppe. I'm 318 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:20.320 not a big fan of like ancient high technology myself. 319 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:22.480 As a matter of fact, when it comes to metallurgy, 320 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:24.879 like if you look at the copper culture in the 321 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:27.759 United States near the Great Lakes region, they would have 322 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:29.840 some copper that they would would get off of the 323 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:32.039 ground that was just like ninety five percent pure, and 324 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:34.440 it was just huge, huge, like the size of an 325 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:37.559 automobile chunk of copper. So eventually they run out and 326 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:41.399 they're mining, and eventually that's not giving them anything well, 327 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:44.399 and so then by the time the white people show 328 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:47.039 up over here that they're almost not using them anymore. 329 00:15:47.039 --> 00:15:49.639 They're almost not even using copper anymore, right, they're using 330 00:15:49.720 --> 00:15:55.120 needles and trinkets, and it wouldn't It doesn't take a 331 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:58.919 lot of imagination to think, imagine to see that that 332 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:03.200 culture being considered more godlike than the people that came 333 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:05.159 a thousand years later. They had weapon I mean, they 334 00:16:05.159 --> 00:16:07.320 had fucking swords right made out of copper. I mean 335 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.120 you compare that to one made out of stick or stone, 336 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:13.879 and it's a far cry. So you can imagine that 337 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:16.600 happening in other places in the world. You can imagine 338 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:18.159 a place where they were able to mine a bunch 339 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:22.159 of metal and it didn't need smelting, and so some 340 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:25.360 pretty low tech solutions to some of these problems. Like 341 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:27.799 I said earlier, I take baby steps to get where I'm. 342 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:31.200 Going, And you see a lot of copper axes in 343 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:35.519 Grecian and more Egyptian kind of you know, is that 344 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:37.720 kind of traversed through there. But what I was going 345 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:40.919 to say is I ran into some old Persian texts 346 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:45.639 where they talk about the original fall of mankind and 347 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:50.000 they talk about basically Adam taking or the character that 348 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:53.360 you know is represented by Adam taking sacred rocks from 349 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:57.279 either five or six different mountains and then compiling them 350 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:00.879 and basically making the first hinge. So when you get 351 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:05.519 into these hinges and looking at go Begley Tepe in 352 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:08.319 regard to the different characters, and you see the scorpion 353 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:12.119 and the vulture and all the you know, to a 354 00:17:12.160 --> 00:17:15.680 great extent, you know, we have to philosophize that this 355 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:21.039 is some sort of an astral calendar possibly, yeah, right 356 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:24.200 right to the dog star, Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 357 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:29.160 The doctor Martin Sweatman's uh description of pillar forty three 358 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:32.880 is really good. Where it's it builds off of scorp 359 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:36.279 the scorpion that's on it and builds uses that as Scorpio, 360 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:40.960 and then it uh takes the vulture as Sagittarius, which 361 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:43.640 does work. It's stretched out in the same position. It 362 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:46.359 puts the sun as the little ball there and then 363 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:50.880 from there it's able to discern. He's he's able to 364 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:54.039 discern different ideas. I mean, his hypothesis is met with 365 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:56.400 a lot of opposition, but at the end of the day, 366 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:58.839 it does fit. It does fit where that would be 367 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:02.960 potentially a marker of a certain date. Now, a lot 368 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:05.599 of times I think these guys like Martin Sweatman, he 369 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:07.880 gets kind of caught up in the whole uh they're 370 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:10.640 trying to warn the future about it. And I don't 371 00:18:10.640 --> 00:18:12.799 think it's so much they're trying to warn the future. 372 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:15.720 I think that people get they get that backwards. That's 373 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:21.000 a science, a scientist looking at that thing. The motivations 374 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.880 for putting a time capsule into the ground are the 375 00:18:23.880 --> 00:18:25.880 same type of motivations, I think. And it ain't got 376 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:28.720 nothing to do with I'm going to send a message 377 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:30.880 to the future. It's man, they're going to want to 378 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:32.799 know what we were doing back in those back in 379 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:35.240 these days because we're fucking important. Man. It's our generation 380 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:37.759 is going to be the last one that the world 381 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:44.079 yea presentation every generation, Yes, exactly, they're gonna want to know. 382 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:47.119 It's that's what all these podcasts and people writing the 383 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:49.559 books and ship it's going to do. You know, if 384 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:52.160 you travel in thousands of light years, you've got plenty 385 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:53.759 of time that you know. 386 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:56.039 Time. 387 00:19:00.359 --> 00:19:03.880 Yeah, it's pretty well when you think about the it's 388 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:05.640 pretty well when you think about the way that all 389 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:08.160 of this is gets put together in different minds, and 390 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:11.000 like some people see things in entirely different ways than 391 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:13.319 other people. And that's one of the reasons that I 392 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:16.640 think it's really important that we don't reject other ideas 393 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:19.839 out of hand because it really takes one person. I mean, 394 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:23.839 it takes one person and then people building on it. 395 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:27.480 Don't get me wrong, But you know, Einstein comes up 396 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:30.960 with the theory of relativity, and it's so counterintuitive that 397 00:19:31.119 --> 00:19:33.079 most people can't even wrap their head around it at 398 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:35.319 first until he has it to them in a form 399 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:38.400 of a real simple equation. And that real simple equation 400 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:40.240 ain't gonna do a goddamn thing. It had nothing to 401 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:42.079 do with what almost nothing to do with what happened 402 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:45.480 in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Einstein has that great quote of 403 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:48.079 it's like five or six years later and he says 404 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:51.680 that the theory of relativity is almost unrecognizable to me. 405 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:54.880 Now the mathematicians have gotten hold of it, they start 406 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:57.519 beating it out and started, well, it's actually not not 407 00:19:57.559 --> 00:20:01.240 actually this number exactly we need to When they start 408 00:20:01.319 --> 00:20:05.119 doing that, that's when you get the real complicated the 409 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:08.359 abilities to split at him. So it takes that dreamer, 410 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:10.880 that person to come up with this avant garde idea 411 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:13.960 that's so fucking goofy. The germ disease theory with Louis 412 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:17.680 Pasteur as opposed to the four humors. Yeah, everybody else 413 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:19.720 thinks you just got to raise and lower the amount 414 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:22.759 of blood and bile and shit in somebody. And he's like, no, man, 415 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:25.440 there's just these invisible bugs. I mean, people laughed at 416 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:28.240 they mocked him heavily. You're stupid invisible bugs. All was 417 00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:33.559 like ghosts doing it too. But Dallas, so it's really 418 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:37.079 important to me. I think that these different theories get entertained, 419 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:40.039 even if some of them to me, like like Christopher 420 00:20:40.119 --> 00:20:42.319 Donees a great example. I think a lot of his 421 00:20:42.400 --> 00:20:45.039 theories are really interesting, but I think he's he's way 422 00:20:45.039 --> 00:20:48.640 too into high technology for me, way too into high 423 00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:50.440 technology for me. But I still listen to what he 424 00:20:50.440 --> 00:20:52.680 has to say. I like the guys. I talked to 425 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:54.720 him fairly regularly, even sent me all of his books 426 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:56.880 to read and stuff, and which I've read about half 427 00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:59.359 of it, half of the second one after and the 428 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:01.079 first one all the way through. I've read about half 429 00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:05.079 of the three so far. But yeah, it's so to me. 430 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:06.720 I think that's one of the biggest things that we 431 00:21:06.799 --> 00:21:10.599 see bad in the archaeological community. And as much as 432 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:13.480 they try to tell us that science learns from its mistakes. 433 00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:16.240 I mean, we saw this with Clovis First, and we 434 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:18.559 saw this before. Not a lot of people know that, 435 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:20.960 but I'm sure most of you are aware of the 436 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:22.640 Clovis First debacle where they. 437 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:25.920 Yeah, live right there in Savannah. They right out there. Man, 438 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:28.000 there's a private land out there. 439 00:21:28.079 --> 00:21:29.440 There's Clovis Land. 440 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:34.640 Yep. Yeah, there's the They say about twelve thousand years ago. 441 00:21:34.880 --> 00:21:37.039 Twelve thousand BC's will be like fourteen thousand years ago. 442 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:38.799 I guess that they were coming over on the varying 443 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:42.640 land Bridge with the first Americans. And that was Anybody 444 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:46.839 who presented evidence against that hypothesis. Anything older than around 445 00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:50.240 twelve fourteen thousand years was just categorically rejected as bullshit 446 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:53.759 and fought tooth and nail, to the point where an 447 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:58.359 archaeologist that was in God damn it, where was he at? 448 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:03.599 He was down in South America somewhere, and he was, Oh, 449 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:05.920 come on, Monte Verde, where is this side at? I'm 450 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:08.640 drawing a big blank now, but anyway, he's down there 451 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:12.119 during Pinochet and all that crazy shit Chile. He's down 452 00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:16.039 there during Pinochet. And one of his colleagues contacted the 453 00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:19.759 local newspaper and said that the whole site of monte 454 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:22.119 Verde was a CIA plant to put him and his 455 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:24.519 family down there, and it's like threatening his family with 456 00:22:24.559 --> 00:22:28.920 the fucking dictator over science. And this was they Eventually 457 00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:31.119 this was all put to bed. Monte Verde. That site 458 00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:34.319 proved it wrong. That scientist Tom Dillay, he was proven right. 459 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:36.799 He was the guy that fought tooth and nail and 460 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:39.759 got it won. But just about fifty years before all 461 00:22:39.799 --> 00:22:43.240 that shit was going down, there was the whole Fulsome 462 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:46.119 First was the hypothesis if you push the people into 463 00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:49.319 the America's back around more than five thousand years outside 464 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:51.160 of the Fulsome culture, you were full of shit, You 465 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:54.079 were crazy, and you could expect to be rejected by archaeology. 466 00:22:54.319 --> 00:22:57.079 So they just don't learn, they haven't fucking figured out 467 00:22:57.160 --> 00:23:01.039 yet that what they're doing is anti sien. It's one 468 00:23:01.079 --> 00:23:04.200 thing to be skeptical, it's another thing to be cynical. 469 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:07.240 That I don't know a better way of putting it 470 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:09.880 than that. 471 00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:11.160 That's crazy that you said about the fourteen thousand years 472 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:14.279 ago thing, because we hear in Georgia, Serah knows about it. 473 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:17.039 We have these places called Moogi mounds, and when you 474 00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:21.440 walk into a Gomogi Mound museum. They literally have pictures 475 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:25.279 that says different dates of time periods, and one of 476 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:30.000 the pictures says seventeen thousand years ago. So and this 477 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:34.160 is supposed but they considered them people the Mississippian period. 478 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:36.920 But you know, the Mississippi period came much later than that. 479 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:40.279 It's just that the culture or the group of people 480 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:43.720 was inhabiting Atlanta since most seventeen thousand years ago. 481 00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:47.519 So oka ahead, Oh no, sorry, go ahead. 482 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:48.480 Yeah. 483 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:52.039 So it's just interesting that everybody has these dates. You know, 484 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:55.240 you get one date for one thing over here, another date, 485 00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:57.240 and you can tell when they use in these days 486 00:23:57.279 --> 00:23:59.799 because they're trying to fit that date to match their narrative. 487 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:02.559 That's what they're trying to do. They're not taking they 488 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:04.960 don't want their narrative to be taken. This is one 489 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:07.720 thing that I hate. I hate when people say a 490 00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:10.160 theory and then they can't change their theory to make 491 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:12.119 it better. That's why some of these damn cars is 492 00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:13.720 running away. They running nowadays. 493 00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:14.160 Anyway. 494 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:15.880 You know what I'm saying. People don't know how to 495 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:19.359 sit here and say okay, look all right, we. 496 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:22.160 Know this doesn't work. It's a theory that it was 497 00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:24.279 supposed to work, but it's not going to work this way, 498 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:25.759 so we have to change it up. 499 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.440 And you know, you know, radiocarbon they have you know, 500 00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:31.799 they always have this threshold of you know, it could 501 00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:34.319 be one hundred years or a thousand years, you know, 502 00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:38.400 so what are you what evidence that are you using 503 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:41.720 to make you pick that specific date instead of any 504 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:43.920 other date. And that's the questions that I like that 505 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:47.720 you are personal narrative, Yeah, exactly, because that's that's the 506 00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:51.359 kind of questions that that Dan be asking and Grandma 507 00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:54.480 is asking also personally, and that's what I'd be wondering too, 508 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:57.400 And I'd be like, Okay, you say two hundred years, 509 00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:00.680 So why is it two hundred years ago versus seven 510 00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:03.319 hundred years ago? Why is the radio carbon? Why are 511 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:05.720 you picking a two hundred rather than the seven hundred? 512 00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:08.480 What more evidence that you've got that's two hundred versus 513 00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:09.480 the seven hundred? 514 00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:13.359 And those are answers that we don't ever get. 515 00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:15.240 No, Well, a lot of times it comes down to 516 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.640 a difference in motivations, Like you're talking about a museum 517 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.839 that is presumably heavily influenced, if not outright owned by 518 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.759 the tribes and depending on the part of the country 519 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:29.160 you're and it can really blow somebody's minds because like 520 00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:31.880 the tribes over here, for example, they're strong, and I 521 00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:35.079 don't mean strong. They have casinos that are tax free 522 00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:37.480 and they've had them for over twenty years. They're fucking rich, 523 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.039 they're filthy, fucking rich. And if they challenge you want to. 524 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:44.079 They'll challenge a site and say we've found an arrowhead. 525 00:25:44.200 --> 00:25:46.480 Well we think that's a grave good. Well technically it's 526 00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:48.359 not a grave good. But they'll tie your ass up 527 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:50.440 in court longer than any archaeologist is going to be 528 00:25:50.440 --> 00:25:52.200 any institution's going to be able to run with it. 529 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:56.200 And so there's a lot of claims to be made 530 00:25:56.240 --> 00:26:00.000 based on age. Like kennewick Man was about ten thousand 531 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.440 years old, and he was claimed why the locals the 532 00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:06.160 callvill tribe, even though he's arguably not a call So 533 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:07.960 this way you're going to get those older dates. If 534 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:10.079 the dative tribes are involved, they're going to be like, yeah, 535 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:12.880 well history books says twelve thousand years, Better make that 536 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:15.160 eighteen thousand, because we want that next pile of bones 537 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:17.319 to be ours. And you can't really blame them is 538 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:20.079 they've had everything stumped and stolen from them. The only 539 00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:21.960 thing they have left to pass with their old ways 540 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:24.680 to their kids is a little bit of control they 541 00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:27.400 have over their land. And if I wasn't, indeed, I'd 542 00:26:27.400 --> 00:26:29.240 be fucked if you were going to take what little 543 00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:30.559 bit of control I had left from me. 544 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.920 That's why we have Naccro where it's at right now. Yeah, 545 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.960 and I know so now yeah, and that's and you 546 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.119 know what it's going to be like that for a 547 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:43.240 lot of history. And you know, sometimes I don't blame 548 00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.200 it because this place is, like I said, I've visited 549 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:46.680 a lot of places. I'm more of a boots on 550 00:26:46.759 --> 00:26:48.839 ground trying to do local history type things. You know, 551 00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:50.359 I do want to go to Egypt and all those 552 00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:52.759 other places haven't been there, but eventually I'll make it. 553 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:55.799 And there is a place called the Horton House here 554 00:26:56.119 --> 00:26:59.000 in Georgia, and it's made out of like tabby and 555 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:01.119 stuff like that on the coasts and stuff like that's 556 00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:04.000 on the island and h when you go up there 557 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.160 and visit, you can see that people are scratching their 558 00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.720 names on the wall. So they're destroying history. You know 559 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:10.400 what I'm saying, it's open to the public. Unit you 560 00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.200 don't have to pay no money to go visit it. 561 00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:14.960 There's no gates, there's no nothing straight on the road. 562 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:17.880 It's a historical site. It has a historical marker and everything. 563 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:20.799 But as soon as you walk up to you and 564 00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:23.400 this is on a rich island, mind you. So when 565 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.440 people say there's a demographic for certain things that happens 566 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:29.839 to archaeological sites, that's a bullshit lie, because this is 567 00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:30.759 a rich island. 568 00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:31.920 You know what I'm saying. 569 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.119 And I'm telling you, you go up there and there's 570 00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:38.880 one hundred hundreds of scratches on it, you know, people's names, hearts, 571 00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:39.839 arrows and. 572 00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.119 Stuff like that. I'm like, you destroying history. 573 00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:44.960 And then you get mad when you get older about 574 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.839 our age and they don't blocked it all off, fenced 575 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:50.880 it off. Nobody can go there and visit. You got 576 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:53.079 to pay five dollars. Five dollars to go in there, 577 00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:55.000 you know what I'm saying. You got paid for the security, this, that, 578 00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:57.920 and third, and you're done. Make everything works because your 579 00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:03.400 grandchildren didn't do it, or your parents before you didn't 580 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:04.359 do what they were supposed to do. 581 00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:07.599 Yeah, yeah, it's a rough one. It goes with that 582 00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.039 psychological thing again. I mean that's I'm scratching my name 583 00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:12.839 on this rock because a bunch of other people are 584 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:14.440 gonna come look at it. Who the funck wouldn't want 585 00:28:14.440 --> 00:28:17.240 to know who Dan Richards is? Come on, Dan Richards 586 00:28:17.279 --> 00:28:19.240 was here? Right? That means something kill Roy was here? 587 00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:23.200 The fuck's Kilroy? But me, come on, everybody's everybody's brain 588 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:28.680 does that. It's a fucking byproduct of the human nature. 589 00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:30.920 I mean, we could sit here and I can look 590 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:32.519 at all of you on the screen and be like, oh, 591 00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:34.240 they're all feeling great, and one of you has got 592 00:28:34.240 --> 00:28:36.440 a fucking bad leg and one of your chest is hurt, 593 00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:38.720 and it's just like we none of us know what 594 00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:43.559 goes on in somebody else's reality, and so that because 595 00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:47.359 of that, we end up inherently self centered. And like 596 00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:49.359 a lot of people say, human nature is so nice, 597 00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:52.400 and that's such a fucking hippie take. I'm sorry, but like, 598 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:54.519 if you empowered every one year old on the planet 599 00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.960 put him in a two hundred and fifty pound bodybuilder's body, 600 00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:59.559 we would all be fucked. It would all be fucked. 601 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:01.920 They would take everything they wanted to beat our asses 602 00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:03.319 into the ground when we resisted. 603 00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:08.200 The story was that what you were saying, like the tagging, 604 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:11.920 And I didn't realize it until I honestly started reading, 605 00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:13.559 like four or five years ago. I was never a 606 00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:16.880 big reader, but so blessed that I actually did because 607 00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:17.200 there's so. 608 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:19.039 Much more information in the books. 609 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:21.680 But I was reading the Graham stuff and he was 610 00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:25.480 talking about the first time that he climbed on top 611 00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.920 of the pyramids and how he had to pay off 612 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:29.880 all these guards. He said, it cost him all kinds 613 00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:31.759 of money. He got halfway up and some more guards 614 00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:34.720 set him like, way, you know, give us some more money, 615 00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:36.759 he said. I finally made it up there. He said 616 00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:39.359 he got to see the sunrise on top. He was 617 00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:41.799 describing how he felt and everything else. He said, but 618 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.160 I think it was his father, someone. 619 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:45.319 Of his fame. 620 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:47.599 Yeah, had went up there and said he carved his 621 00:29:47.759 --> 00:29:51.079 name and said, so he watched the sunrise. He said 622 00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:54.200 he remembered that he got to looking and he actually 623 00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:58.519 found his grandfather's carving on the pyramid. 624 00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:00.279 So that was pretty awesome them. 625 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:01.359 Yeah, that is pretty cool. 626 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:05.960 So, Dan, what's what's been your most surprising thing that 627 00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:12.599 you've uncovered while researching claims and conspiracies, the most surprising. 628 00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.799 To you, most surprising to me that I uncovered. That's 629 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.359 a good question. I think, honestly, the thing that blew 630 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:23.400 my mind the most is currently would be the way 631 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:28.519 that it's either the metal plate in the Great Pyramid 632 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:32.119 or uh, the way that's been handled or the way 633 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:36.480 that the Peruvian elongated skulls have been handled, either one 634 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:40.000 of those kind of just like the metal plate in 635 00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:43.960 the Great Pyramid was part of Howard Vice's team, it's 636 00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:47.400 the same group that found the cartousies that the debunkers 637 00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.400 like to throw on everybody's faces and say that this 638 00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:53.039 proves that Krufu's been built the pyramid. So you get 639 00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:57.400 debunkers claiming that Howard A. Vice's team lied about the cartouches. 640 00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.799 But then you get the skeptics claiming that Howard advices 641 00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.359 team light about this metal plate because it's an iron 642 00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:07.720 plate in bronze age. So both sides say that, you know, 643 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:09.839 they don't want to trust the scientists there, but you 644 00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:12.039 do some research and it's like they're actually, you know, 645 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.279 like about eight hundred miles away and like three hundred 646 00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.559 years after the Great pyramid was said to have been built. 647 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.839 They find evidence of iron smelting right there, so it's 648 00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.160 I mean, it's not really a stretch to imagine them 649 00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:28.759 trading some pretty low grade iron to them. But nobody 650 00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:31.079 put that together. It's just like ill sitting there. And 651 00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.759 as soon as that plate, as soon as that plate 652 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:36.400 was basically proven tonight I've been meteoric iron. It was 653 00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:39.000 just dismissed out of hand, like it was bullshit. 654 00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:41.559 Didn't fit in narrative that they wanted to tell Tom. 655 00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.440 And even though the answer is mundane if you look, 656 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:47.759 but it's nobody wants to do it. And the other one, 657 00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:51.039 the way that the elongated skulls in Peru were treated, 658 00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.079 I mean that read light like I was reading a 659 00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.519 document that was historically going through the history of it, 660 00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:59.279 and I felt like I was watching the fucking X Files. Man, 661 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:03.200 it was insane, like a scientist is, like I went, 662 00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:07.240 opened sixty two grave bundles. Each one of those elongated 663 00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.519 skulls comes in this big grave bag, right, a big 664 00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:13.599 burlap bag, multi tiered textile to store a body inside. 665 00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.200 So these dudes like I went, I opened sixty three 666 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:19.720 grave bundles or some such I recorded the contents of 667 00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:21.640 six and I closed the other ones back up and 668 00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:25.400 put them back on the shelf, and over and over. 669 00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:28.000 You see this kind of stuff where it's like, uh, 670 00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:32.920 they were selling skulls to fucking Oh, come on, Dodge, 671 00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:35.960 what's the dude to day of the New York the risks. 672 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:39.759 A giant skull like dock. 673 00:32:41.039 --> 00:32:44.079 Rockefeller bought four of them and was the first person 674 00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:49.039 to invest any money into into this thing. And ever 675 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.440 since then, every time that these skulls pop up, for 676 00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.319 every time anybody opens the skulls or does anything with them, 677 00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:57.839 shit gets shady. Like all the way up into the seventies, 678 00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:01.839 shit was shady. People did they do a public filming 679 00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:04.400 of them opening a bundle and you can't find that 680 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:08.279 video or any reports of what happened, just the fact 681 00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:10.640 that that did happen and it was public. It's like, 682 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:12.839 so the newspaper covered it, looked for these peoper articles. 683 00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.279 Not there. It's like, whoa fucking what the hell? That 684 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:17.319 one did? Get me kind of feeling a little a 685 00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.400 little like I was sitting next to aj from the 686 00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:25.759 WI Files instead of sitting in my basement. Yeah, there's 687 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:29.160 a lot of that stuff. Actually that is another one. 688 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:32.839 I'm working on it now. I'm working on this. Some 689 00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.519 more elongated skulls. You know, they're they're kind of just 690 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.400 not spoken of. They're kind of all over the world, 691 00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:41.480 and they're just kind of absolutely you look into a 692 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.200 Native American tribe and they may well have been quote 693 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:49.799 unquote long heads or flattheads, and you look into it 694 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.519 and you're like, holy shit, man, nobody ever talks about this. 695 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:56.119 It's like you could live right next to it and 696 00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:58.240 nobody's talking about it, and it's all over the place, 697 00:33:58.279 --> 00:33:59.880 and it's just weird. 698 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:03.480 Africa, there's they've found them everywhere crazy. 699 00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:08.800 Even this one's a replica from one of the Parrakas schools. 700 00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:10.519 I take it with me to a lot of the 701 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:14.000 conferences and have people sign it. But a lot of people, 702 00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:16.199 especially like La Marzouli, a bunch of them guys went 703 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:19.079 down there and studied these things, did DNA sampling, uh 704 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:20.960 and a bunch of these man, they got so many 705 00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:24.480 denominalies that don't match up to head binding like the 706 00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:25.239 Satyre Sutra. 707 00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:26.679 Will be visiting the. 708 00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:30.119 Eye orbits twenty to thirty percent larger extra set of 709 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.280 for raven magnums in the back, and that's for the 710 00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:36.000 arteries and nerve things to compensate for this elongated school. 711 00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:39.119 So many things that brain case volume and bigger in 712 00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:43.960 some of those, so many things that a race ye had. 713 00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:46.480 The structure of the interior as far as the webbing 714 00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.760 of the interiors, I've also seen as different as well. 715 00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.880 Even the mounting because the mount point here is all 716 00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.920 the way at the back. All human schools mount here. 717 00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:58.599 So even the ones they know that from headbinding doesn't 718 00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:01.639 change the anchor point. But yeah, these long gates gold me. 719 00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:04.159 That's something that's really fascinated me, is. 720 00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.760 That the biggest rabbit trails, hey, doc, is that the 721 00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:09.880 biggest thing is that the anchor point. 722 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.400 Like forget this the elongates. 723 00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:14.760 Import part, right, but the anchor part with that change 724 00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:18.760 a lot more in our mindset of things, like like 725 00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:19.480 I think it. 726 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.440 Shows you it's built into the DNA, you know, because 727 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.400 all the ones that they have that they know are 728 00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:29.239 from head binding and still doesn't change that anchor point, right, That's. 729 00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.519 What makes What's the problem I joked about that in 730 00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:34.320 a recent video with the head binding is that you 731 00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:36.719 just can't like you just can't grab some babies and 732 00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:38.639 slap wrap their heads. So we need to do is 733 00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:40.480 like it's just like the foot binding. We need to 734 00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.320 clone some people and then practice both on them. So 735 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:45.960 we cut the human rights violations in half, but we still. 736 00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:47.199 Have knowed out of it. 737 00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:52.559 Feet and head fucking do it up. But serious, serious, 738 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.960 like here I got just look here, that's pretty rare one. 739 00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:58.639 My buddy Sean Mooney lowed me for some research I'm doing, 740 00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:02.559 uh the books Sign of Freedom Chief com Calmly School. 741 00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:07.039 And this is a nineteen fifty nine or nineteen fifty 742 00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:12.519 nine book from the Smithsonian Institute. And it's got this 743 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:15.800 elongate school. It's not nearly as crazy as the one 744 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:18.599 you were just holding. But they repatrited this in nineteen 745 00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:21.119 sixty I think to in the. 746 00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:21.760 Back on that one. 747 00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.960 Also that even the mount if you look at the whole, 748 00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:28.199 it's it's farther back than it should be. 749 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:29.960 Yeah, I agree, this was. 750 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.679 Yeah, this was they repatrited this. We don't have it 751 00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:36.079 and they buried it. But yeah, there's there's a hell 752 00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.199 of a story there. Man, there was what's the name 753 00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:41.679 of the book again, Dan, you're not going to find 754 00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:46.119 it for sale anyway. It's a rare one. The Chinook 755 00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:48.360 Sign of Freedom, The Study of the School of the 756 00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:52.800 Famous Chief comm Calmly. It's from the Smithsonian Institution, Washington, 757 00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:53.760 nineteen sixty. 758 00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:55.639 Thanks, Yeah, no problem. 759 00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:57.920 That's you might find a PDF or something, but yeah, 760 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.000 I'd not been able to find that book for sale anywhere. 761 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:02.800 My buddy Sean, like I said, loaded to me. He's 762 00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:05.639 turned me onto some interesting stuff that's fairly local that 763 00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.199 I'm kind of doing a deep dive into. Not kind of, 764 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:10.800 I'm doing a lot of work into this one, and 765 00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:15.079 kind of he showed meself that I don't agree with 766 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.159 everything he's pointed out to me, as he's well aware, 767 00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:18.840 but there's some of the stuff that he's pointed out 768 00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:21.840 that's so just just so fucking interesting that I can't 769 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.519 not dig as deep as I can. So me and 770 00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:26.159 him are going to do a road trip here soon 771 00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.760 and take a look at a few things, and yeah, 772 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:31.440 it's some life's crazy. 773 00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:31.639 Man. 774 00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.599 That actually leads me into another question that I had, 775 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:38.800 which is, have you ever investigated something that you thought 776 00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:44.920 was just freaking nonsense? Right, but came away thinking, wait 777 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:47.719 a minute, there's more to this. 778 00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:53.400 I'll be honest to the the maps, the old maps 779 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:56.440 of Antarctica with ice free coasts and stuff. I thought 780 00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:59.440 for sure when I started digging into it, I thought, 781 00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.199 for sure be looking into looking at Paradolia. I thought 782 00:38:02.239 --> 00:38:06.000 for sure that I was going to be. But at 783 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:07.760 the end of the day, the boy did I pissed 784 00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:09.599 some archaeologists off with this one. Even though we were 785 00:38:09.599 --> 00:38:11.440 all buddies at that time and I wasn't really fighting 786 00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:13.119 with it. They all just like they were all talking 787 00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:15.000 to me, and everybody just walked away and clammed up 788 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:16.800 when I said this didn't they didn't want to hear it. 789 00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:21.639 But there's you know, the same thing that makes me 790 00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:26.559 go with an archaeologist that specializes in carbon dating seeds 791 00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:28.920 if he says this seed is X number of years old, 792 00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:31.840 and then somebody else that doesn't carbon date seed says 793 00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:35.440 it's X number of years old. Same thing with these maps. 794 00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:39.079 We've had exactly one team of professional cartographers worked on it, 795 00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:41.840 and they came away saying that they were maps of Antarctica. 796 00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:45.199 Now you start bringing out other teams professional cartographers, that'd 797 00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:47.880 be great, But when you bring out historians that have 798 00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:52.519 a minor in cartography, it's like, well, that's nice, that's interesting, 799 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:54.559 But he's a historian first, he's trying to make it 800 00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:59.440 fit this narrative. The Colonel Harald z Oldmeyer, who was 801 00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.159 in charge of them doing the work on those maps, 802 00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:07.039 a motherfucker was the lead bombardier on daylight and night 803 00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:09.599 raid missions in World War Two. He knew how to 804 00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:11.920 read a map, all right. He wasn't just like, oh, dude, 805 00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.400 to do to do? I think that might be this coastline. No, man, 806 00:39:14.440 --> 00:39:16.840 he was capable of doing that shit under fire while 807 00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:19.519 people trying to trick him into thinking it's over there. 808 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:23.199 He was good at it. So I have to defer 809 00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:25.840 to the experts on that man. So that did kind 810 00:39:25.880 --> 00:39:28.039 of it kind of impressed me. I didn't expect it 811 00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:31.760 to be so I didn't expect to be so robust. 812 00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:33.199 Basically, yeah, super interesting. 813 00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.280 So how about you guys. You guys got me answering 814 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:41.639 all kinds of questions some of you, you know, some 815 00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:42.440 ideas here. 816 00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:46.199 You know, I was going to say, you know, it's 817 00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:48.719 crazy that history is the way it is. 818 00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:51.079 You know, everybody has a puzzle piece. Nobody in his 819 00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:52.119 room or on this. 820 00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.719 Planet has enough time out the day to do research 821 00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:59.719 in every aspect of everything on this planning even one subject. 822 00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:03.920 Nobody has enough time on one lifetime to learn everything, 823 00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:08.239 I mean, just one subject, So everybody needs to work together. 824 00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:11.320 I hate how a lot of people come back Grand 825 00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:14.840 because I actually been found on Grand for years and 826 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:19.400 I've been I've read his books, I watched his documentaries, 827 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:21.719 I go over his stuff. There was a time when 828 00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:24.519 I wanted to go over his stuff like everybody else did. 829 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:26.599 But I was like, man, that's you know, that's so saturated. 830 00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:29.119 Everybody's doing the same thing. You know, forget it. 831 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.280 You know, I'm not trying to go down that route. 832 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:34.519 But he has a lot of questions. First, he says 833 00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:37.800 a lot you know, he basically wants to know who 834 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.360 were the people before the Ice age? Who were the 835 00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:44.000 group of individuals before that, because obviously they were important, right, 836 00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:47.199 I mean, I mean, everybody's trying to find out who 837 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:49.679 they are. It's just that most people don't like what 838 00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.840 he says when he's looking for when he's questioning their information. 839 00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:55.599 So this is what I hate what people do. 840 00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:58.400 When you're sitting in a room and you're trying to 841 00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:02.119 present information, you're only presenting the information based off of 842 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:05.800 your own research. Now you're presenting you're presenting this room 843 00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:08.719 and probably fifty to one hundred other people. Now, somebody 844 00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:10.840 in that room, I guarantee you probably has them some 845 00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:14.119 more information. And Graham takes that information and he applies 846 00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:17.280 it to his ideas and theories. All the time he 847 00:41:17.480 --> 00:41:20.039 takes it's like he takes the It's like he takes 848 00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:22.800 their stuff and almost uses it against him. And they 849 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:26.519 don't just pay attention to what they say because he's asking. Okay, 850 00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:28.760 the first thing he asked is will tell me who 851 00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:31.039 where they were before that? And nine times out of ten, 852 00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:32.679 that shit held ten out of ten. Because the people 853 00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:34.960 like to argue with him, you know, and they say, well, 854 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:38.239 we know, well that's what he's trying to figure out, right, 855 00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:41.559 And some people don't like the word advanced civilization, and 856 00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:44.440 this that how many people have actually asked him a 857 00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.800 question about what is a civilization? So this is where 858 00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:50.480 I kick it. So we got Flint Dibble over here, right. 859 00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:54.039 He was on there on Joe Rogan. He was talking 860 00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:56.679 about civilization where he likes to go at Graham a lot. 861 00:41:57.159 --> 00:41:59.159 And I actually made a little song from you know, 862 00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:01.079 one of those AI things because I thought this shit 863 00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:03.440 was so funny when he was on Joe Rogan. I 864 00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:06.119 think it was like eighteen minutes in seventeen eighteen minutes in, 865 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.360 and he said he was talking about how he never 866 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:13.280 uses the word, he never defines the word civilization, that 867 00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.760 he almost doesn't use the word because there's no it's 868 00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:18.719 everybody has their own way of defining of what a 869 00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:22.159 civilization is, which is fair enough. But if you're going 870 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.480 to have an argument about advanced civilization, at the bare minimum, 871 00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:28.079 you got to define what civilization is so everybody can 872 00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:29.199 understand what you're saying. 873 00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:30.760 That's at the bare minimum. Right. 874 00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:35.280 Graham has done that throughout his whole entire career, so 875 00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:39.719 everybody that follows him doesn't need that explaint anymore. Right, 876 00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:42.559 And anybody knew that wanted to know that was thrown 877 00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.039 off of it because Flint himself says that they don't 878 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.320 even worry about that anymore. Now you're saying this from 879 00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:50.280 an academic point of view, that you don't have a 880 00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:53.360 defined definition of what a civilization is, but you want 881 00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:55.719 to argue about. 882 00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:58.559 In advanced civilization. That doesn't make sense to me. 883 00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:02.360 I doubt take it step further. Flint isn't even somebody. 884 00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:05.519 Flint is in almost no better position than I am 885 00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:09.400 to tell you how much they are saying towards civilization nowadays. 886 00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.679 His specialty has fuck all to do with civilization, that 887 00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:18.320 overarching look at he deals with food. He deals with food. 888 00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:21.039 So his the definitions that he's going to be dealing with, 889 00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:23.360 they are going to be scientific definitions, and they're different 890 00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:25.280 than the ones that they bring out to the lay people. 891 00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:28.800 So everybody. Most people are familiar with the difference of 892 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.960 the term theory, but for those that aren't, a theory 893 00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:34.039 to us, if I say, ah, I've got a theory 894 00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:35.960 about what happened on nine to eleven, that means I 895 00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:40.400 got some idea with no fucking evidence attached or threadbaar evidence. 896 00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:44.559 But in science, you know, a theory is a hypothesis 897 00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:48.199 that stood up to numerous tests, has failed none of them. 898 00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:51.199 All the evidence supports it, none of the evidence supposes it. 899 00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:55.079 Like the theory of gravity or the theory of relativity. 900 00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:58.639 I ask, fucking Herosian, how hypothetical that is? You know 901 00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:02.440 it's not. It's not hypothetical, man, this is real. So 902 00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:08.800 it's science uses different terms, and so Flint plays a 903 00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:11.079 little bit of a weasel. By a little bit, Flint 904 00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:12.960 plays Weasley games, and that one of them that he 905 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:17.320 does there is obfuscating what that term means between both camps. 906 00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:19.840 It's not. It's one of the things that really really 907 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:21.639 rouse me the wrong way about him and a lot 908 00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:25.199 of those guys is they don't just they don't just 909 00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:29.599 misrepresent things when they're talking. They misrepresent things so bad 910 00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.639 that somebody watching them discuss things could walk away with 911 00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:36.280 a bad idea on how science has performed. They walk 912 00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:38.599 away with the wrong ideas in their head. On a 913 00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:41.880 fundamental level, they remove archaeology from the picture and they 914 00:44:41.880 --> 00:44:44.800 still are going to have a bad idea. And the 915 00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:49.079 way that they handle these things is very You know, 916 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:53.000 we're at a point in history right now where science 917 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:57.519 seems to be political. You have scientists that support the 918 00:44:57.599 --> 00:44:59.719 left and scientists that support the right. And that's the 919 00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:02.719 most fuck places science could be ever, because science is 920 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:04.800 a pursuit of truth and politics is a pursuit of 921 00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:11.840 being a cocksucker. In all honesty, the politics has funck 922 00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:13.119 all to do with science, and. 923 00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:15.239 But that's what science is. 924 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:15.760 The politics. 925 00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.960 Well, yeah, and when they My issue is is when 926 00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:24.800 you get to where you have scientists that people don't 927 00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:27.639 trust because of their politically, I don't trust foul to you, 928 00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.880 or I don't trust this guy n't. What you end 929 00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.880 up with is you you've got people quit trusting science, 930 00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:37.440 and people can get science to report whatever they want, 931 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:38.719 and you can't even do it in a court of 932 00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:40.440 law anymore because you're going to call it for a 933 00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:43.239 fucking expert. Well I got a scientist a donkey next 934 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:45.239 to their name, Well fuck you. I got a scientist 935 00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.000 in the same field and with an elephant next to 936 00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:48.960 his And now you've got to judge danie or has 937 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.119 no fucking idea what any of this man we're looking at. 938 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:54.760 We're in some very ugly ugly We're in a very 939 00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:56.239 ugly place, and it's going to get a whole lot 940 00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:58.840 worse work it gets better as far as how science 941 00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:01.480 and the public interact, and a lot of it is 942 00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:03.239 the egos of people. 943 00:46:03.079 --> 00:46:07.480 Like flinted right and the scientific journals even they have 944 00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.719 themselves have come out and admitted that more than fifty 945 00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:15.199 percent of their research papers are non reproducible in regard 946 00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:17.559 to you know, the yeah. 947 00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:21.639 Yeah, yeah, it's over. I want to say it was over. 948 00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:25.280 Eighty thousand papers were retracted in twenty twenty four over 949 00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:28.719 eighty thousand, and Some of this is because we've got 950 00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:32.679 AI now, you know, scrubbing those things and looking for 951 00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:37.039 coming through them and looking for plagiarism and faulty data 952 00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:39.679 sets and whatnot. But a lot of it is just 953 00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:42.679 flat out that. You know, I say this all the 954 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.679 time about archaeology, you know, when they tell me I'm 955 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:47.320 not a scientist, and I'd laugh. I was like, I'm 956 00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:50.840 an electrician, bitch, I did applied science. The universe told 957 00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.599 me if I was wrong. You write a paper and 958 00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:56.360 you give it to another archaeologist and you circle jerk 959 00:46:56.440 --> 00:46:58.559 all day long. You could be talking about fucking Harry 960 00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:00.400 Potter and none of you would ever reach track the 961 00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:02.519 other guy's paper, and you're gonna call it science. No, man, 962 00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:04.480 you're you're not a scientist. Bro. 963 00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.719 I hate I hate when people do that. Bro. I 964 00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:11.119 hate when people say, well, I'm this year, not that 965 00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:11.800 you know. 966 00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.119 I hate when people throw that ship out there, because 967 00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:16.880 that that doesn't mean an If that's the case, then 968 00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:18.880 why the fuck did you prove what you said in 969 00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:21.039 the first place? Then you know what I'm saying, like, 970 00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:23.280 why are you still why haven't you figured it out? 971 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.920 Then? Since you have this degree, you're you're looking at 972 00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:26.880 from that. 973 00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:31.039 Non uh perspective of having that that the credentials that 974 00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:33.159 they're looking for. So if it doesn't make sense to 975 00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.159 that non credential person, then make it make it to them, 976 00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:37.840 make it make sense to us. 977 00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:38.440 You know what I'm saying. 978 00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:41.159 You have, you have the education, you have the background, 979 00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:43.519 you have to academic. You sitting here throwing yourself on 980 00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:45.400 this pedestal talking about some Oh yeah I got this 981 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:46.480 PhD and blah. 982 00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:49.840 Blah blah blah blah. Okay, so explain it to us idiots. 983 00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:53.559 Then language, you know what I mean. 984 00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:56.480 That's what I'm saying. It's a wall. So be the gandal, 985 00:47:56.719 --> 00:47:57.039 you know. 986 00:47:57.039 --> 00:48:00.199 Be the Gandalf that brings this knowledge and alert. 987 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:04.000 Ex if it doesn't make sense that of course we're 988 00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:06.039 going to ask these questions because it doesn't make sense 989 00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.239 because you're telling us we don't have these credentials that 990 00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:11.000 you have. So now when we ask these questions, now 991 00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:13.599 it's your opportunity sends you up on this high rise 992 00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:15.840 and all this other shit that you got this academic 993 00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:18.199 you can walk around and say, hey, I'm doctor this 994 00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:20.480 this this okay, would not prove it to us, tell 995 00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:22.679 us what we need to know, Show me the facts, 996 00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.599 because guess what, there's other PhD right over here saying 997 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:26.880 that you're a crock of bullshit. 998 00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:29.519 So both y'all got pad So which one am I 999 00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:30.400 supposed to believe that? 1000 00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:30.719 Yeah? 1001 00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:30.960 Right? 1002 00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:33.159 You know what I'm saying, tell me that riddle me 1003 00:48:33.199 --> 00:48:35.079 that batman. That's all I'm saying. 1004 00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:38.159 It's fall it's that part has fallen this ship with it. 1005 00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:40.320 Like I was saying, you can't it's got to where 1006 00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:45.199 we can't trust uh, we can't trust science anymore. And uh, 1007 00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:48.599 you know, Carl Sagan was the guy that really he 1008 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:53.000 brought the lights from Gandalf to the masses with uh 1009 00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:58.400 with uh cosmology and freaking astronomy, and he got all 1010 00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:01.159 kinds of shit. His colleagues rilled him and just picked 1011 00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:03.639 on him all the time. Go go write another paper 1012 00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:05.639 for the fucking idiots, and we're going to go write 1013 00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:09.199 a paper for and saying published papers, but it wasn't. 1014 00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:13.280 His focus was science education. And the thing is, in 1015 00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.639 all honesty, I personally think a lot of the reason 1016 00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:17.519 that guys like him get a lot of shit is 1017 00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:20.119 because they are the same reason that Lee Berger, if 1018 00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:21.920 you remember the Cave of Bones. If any of you 1019 00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:24.760 saw that on Netflix, he got a lot of people. 1020 00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:27.840 He got all kinds of shit from my archaeologists and anthropologists. 1021 00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:31.639 And the reason is because these guys, generally speaking, a 1022 00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:35.119 good scientist, a real good scientist, is not just a 1023 00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.519 bit of a nerd. They're fucking socially awkward. They they're 1024 00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:44.639 they're they're weird, and that's fine and good in the lab, 1025 00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:47.039 but it really sucks when you put them on a 1026 00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:49.800 TV screen and they're trying to convince normal people that 1027 00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:53.280 this guy that you were like, somebody checked that motherfucker's 1028 00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:55.800 hard drive. You don't want to have this guy talking 1029 00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:57.920 on to the public and everybody's like, oh, this is 1030 00:49:57.960 --> 00:49:59.920 the font of knowledge. We're all looking at this guy 1031 00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.400 on this It used to be that the only time 1032 00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:05.480 you would see those kinds of scientists was on freaking 1033 00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:08.400 PBS at three am. And otherwise you were going to 1034 00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:09.920 get a Carl Sagan type. You were going to get 1035 00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:11.280 a guy that knew how to talk to the camera 1036 00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:13.199 and give you a little shuck and jive and hey, guys, 1037 00:50:13.239 --> 00:50:15.519 welcome back, and here's what we're going to talk about today. 1038 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:17.400 And then when you don't get that stew We get 1039 00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:21.800 these guys that are fucking uh or that are egotistical 1040 00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:27.400 and get all red faced and screamy or basically, the 1041 00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:32.199 the facade that scientists hid behind for centuries felled a 1042 00:50:32.320 --> 00:50:34.320 ship in the social media era when they all got 1043 00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:36.920 to get on Twitter and scream about stupid shit and 1044 00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.599 they all start doing all the goofy shit that everybody 1045 00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:42.559 makes fun of, and it's now it's like, okay, so 1046 00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:44.960 you're just you're you're just people like us, but you're 1047 00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:47.079 kind of a worse person than us because most of 1048 00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:49.519 us at least know how to dress and like, don't 1049 00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:51.039 say the stupid ass shit you do. 1050 00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:54.920 So a lot of us know how to use common 1051 00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:56.000 sense too. They don't. 1052 00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:01.440 Einstein said, if you can't explain your idea to a 1053 00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:04.599 six year old, you don't understand it yourself. 1054 00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:08.679 I love that. 1055 00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:11.480 Yeah, y'all know, I was in the military. 1056 00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:14.239 We call it keep it simple stupid, that's what it's 1057 00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:16.920 just simple stupid, that's what we were saying. So if 1058 00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:20.719 you can't keep it simple stupid to me, I guess, 1059 00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:22.719 I guess what you're saying just ain't holding up then, 1060 00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.320 because I I you know, when people talk. You mentioned 1061 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:28.000 the word gravity. You don't have to explain gravity to me. 1062 00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.159 I pick up this goddamn phone and let go of 1063 00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:31.719 It's going to hit the ground. That's all I need 1064 00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:33.440 to know. Anything that I pick up is going to 1065 00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.000 eventually hit the ground. That's all I need to know gravity. Now, 1066 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.599 if I want to get into this scientific theory relativity 1067 00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:39.920 and all this other stuff. 1068 00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:42.760 My mind is going to be ain't going down that road. 1069 00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.639 But I know the simple thing, foundational aspect of what 1070 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:48.320 gravity is. So you know, all that other argument and 1071 00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:50.880 theories that everybody else have that's still up in the air. 1072 00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:55.239 Better explain it, Like Bernie, Actually, I think the idea 1073 00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:57.320 of gravity that changed to us is completely wrong. 1074 00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:00.320 That's why everything. 1075 00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:03.360 One thing I did want to ask you about and 1076 00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:06.599 get into a little bit more. This is the cult 1077 00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:10.159 rejects when it comes to like ritual stuff. Was there 1078 00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:13.719 places that you thought, like for sure definitely had areas 1079 00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:15.679 that you were like there was ritual shit going on here? 1080 00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:18.519 And what made you think that? 1081 00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:18.719 Like? 1082 00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:22.559 Why, Well, there's like certain places where you see those 1083 00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:25.920 like blood letting stones where they're pretty clearly made to 1084 00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:29.000 like collect blood when you caught something. And I mean 1085 00:52:29.559 --> 00:52:31.559 that's you know, I mean, I guess you could be 1086 00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:33.920 eating the blood or making black pudding out of it, 1087 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:36.639 but I would I would got in the limb and say, 1088 00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:38.559 most of those cultures are probably using it for some 1089 00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:42.440 sort of ceremonial purposes. Given what what most cultures tend 1090 00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:44.280 to think about blood. I can't think of any culture 1091 00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:49.119 actually that doesn't have some weird, some weird spiritual significance 1092 00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:55.079 attached to blood. There's uh, that gets tricky because I mean, 1093 00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:57.599 the word the word ritual is so vague, and so 1094 00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:01.920 I mean, uh, my last video I actually just talked 1095 00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:04.159 about a little bit. I joked about how a baseball 1096 00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:06.519 player picks up his bat and touches it in a 1097 00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.559 certain way. That's that's a ritual, right, So this. 1098 00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:11.599 Socks for two weeks. I think you said something like that. 1099 00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.719 It gets difficult to know what. But there are places, 1100 00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:19.599 for sure, there's some dark places like that. People have 1101 00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:22.119 done some fucked up stuff. There's no question, Like you 1102 00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:26.039 know in car on Tepe Graham Hancock mentioned it at 1103 00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:28.559 the first season of Ancient Apocalypse. How that that face 1104 00:53:28.599 --> 00:53:30.320 that's sticking out of the side of the wall just 1105 00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:34.199 looks Yeah, it's fucking I think's ugly as fuck. Man. 1106 00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:36.280 I think it's scary looking. It's a big just like 1107 00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:39.400 kissy lips and ship. It's like you could imagine that 1108 00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:41.960 enclosure being like filled with water or something. It'd be 1109 00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:46.119 pretty scary little spot there. But uh, you know, I 1110 00:53:46.119 --> 00:53:50.199 would I think that the pyramids honestly, Like, do you 1111 00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:53.639 guys watch history for granted at all? He covers a 1112 00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:58.000 lot of the more mechanical aspects of Egyptian things, a 1113 00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.199 lot of he's he's a pretty good channel. He He's 1114 00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:03.480 not mainstream, but he's not alternative, I guess should say 1115 00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:07.239 he does. He does some like the Chimney and the 1116 00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:09.280 Bent Pyramid, for example. He went and took the best 1117 00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:13.039 photographs of that since the seventies. And he's he's got 1118 00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:16.599 theories on the port cliss doors, on the Great Pyramid 1119 00:54:16.639 --> 00:54:21.000 and how they are were designed to be lowered and 1120 00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:23.880 raised multiple times? Would they weren't designed to be dropped 1121 00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:26.440 and lock the pharaoh in there forever, it was designed 1122 00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:29.480 to be accessible and people come and go, and that 1123 00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:32.440 implies it was more of an area of cultural of 1124 00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:35.280 a ritual significance, and that would make sense, Like we've 1125 00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:38.719 opened one sarcophagus that was in a pyramid. It was sealed, 1126 00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:41.360 but it had no body in it. So it does 1127 00:54:41.480 --> 00:54:44.840 make sense that, you know, the Egyptians had like forty 1128 00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:46.840 two gates. I think it was that they had forty 1129 00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:49.440 two stations basically they would go through in their afterlife. 1130 00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.760 And I don't see a reason why they wouldn't re 1131 00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:56.719 enact some of that on the earth, and you know, 1132 00:54:56.800 --> 00:55:00.159 go stick his body in this one for six weeks, 1133 00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:02.079 and stick his body in that one for six weeks, 1134 00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:04.000 and stick his body and then then travel it over 1135 00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:06.559 here and present it. I mean, I personally think there 1136 00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:10.079 could have well been a whole, big, big ass year 1137 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:13.079 long ceremony whenever a pharaoh died that really got the 1138 00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:15.639 whole country behind it for a time. It would it 1139 00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:19.400 would make sense given what we see. I mean, some 1140 00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:22.639 of these things, you know, just it beggars belief to 1141 00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:26.400 think that it would be one person's uh, you know, 1142 00:55:26.679 --> 00:55:30.079 one person's project to have all the GDP go into 1143 00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:33.920 Kufu's pyramid, for example. Come ons that I personally think 1144 00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:37.360 there was more than nothing involved in that except for 1145 00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:38.159 I was here. 1146 00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:43.920 That's I was even saying it. I was even saying 1147 00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:45.679 I think a few days ago. That's funny, how like 1148 00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:47.559 growing up, I believe that those things would build just 1149 00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:50.719 to house a few dead people. Yeah, you went through 1150 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:52.440 all that, you could just have a fucking grave yellow. 1151 00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:55.480 Yeah. 1152 00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:58.079 I think it was. I think it did multiple things. 1153 00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:03.000 I noticed guy uh ken Good's words. Uh, he's actually 1154 00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:04.760 a publisher. He actually published my book. 1155 00:56:04.760 --> 00:56:08.719 Actually he talks about uh, and there's a lot of 1156 00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:11.960 evidence about it about you know, some of these pyramids 1157 00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:14.840 being used as chemical plants, like to make methane and 1158 00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:18.039 certain stuff like that, and he goes in details and 1159 00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:22.679 in his book, and uh, it's just interesting that, you know, 1160 00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:26.679 there's different theories on why the pyramids were made. And 1161 00:56:26.800 --> 00:56:30.920 I think that there was a multi you know type thing, 1162 00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:34.639 multi use type thing, because of the simple fact that 1163 00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:36.679 I don't think it's just for the dedica. I'm sure 1164 00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:38.800 somebody said, hey, I want my body to be dead 1165 00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:41.920 buried in there. I'm pretty sure somebody said that along 1166 00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:44.960 the lines. But I don't think it was solely made 1167 00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.840 for that. They had the kings Shamer after Queen's Chamber 1168 00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:49.920 and after this they have that, and everybody comes up 1169 00:56:49.960 --> 00:56:53.320 with their ideas. But you know, one of the things 1170 00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:55.599 that I that I'm always interested in is the idea 1171 00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:57.280 of how the Pyramids were made. You know, a lot 1172 00:56:57.320 --> 00:56:59.719 of people always says it took it takes twenty years. 1173 00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.119 It took twenty years. That's what the consensus is. But 1174 00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:05.079 if you actually read I believe it's Herodoto's books, he 1175 00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:07.519 actually says thirty years. He says ten years for the 1176 00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:10.400 ramp and then twenty years for everything else. Now, this 1177 00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:12.800 is a guy that wrote how the Pyramids were back 1178 00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:14.840 back then. This is the first history, and this is 1179 00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:17.440 supposed to be a father of historian that actually talks 1180 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.000 about how it's built. But he never talks about the 1181 00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:23.119 usages basically like he never gets in detail on how 1182 00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:28.360 the usages were made. And you know, what we also 1183 00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:30.880 are what I also should say, I know is that 1184 00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:33.400 the Pyramids is also in layers. 1185 00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:36.480 It's not just one whole thing built over layers. 1186 00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:39.199 So a lot of times some people say, you know 1187 00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:41.360 that they did one thing and then they decided to 1188 00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:43.599 add something else, and it's something they decided to add 1189 00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:44.519 something else and then. 1190 00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:45.599 It just came out to what it'd be. 1191 00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:50.480 But you know, it's just theories and being it lined 1192 00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:52.719 up to the stars. Some people say that it's not 1193 00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:55.239 lined up to the stars, that it's not that it 1194 00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:57.159 is actually just clo It's. 1195 00:57:57.039 --> 00:57:58.159 Close, but not that close. 1196 00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:00.639 But like you said, when you go out outside now, 1197 00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:02.159 when you go outside now, you got a. 1198 00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:03.320 Light lot of light pollution. 1199 00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:05.519 And nine times out of ten, most people are looking 1200 00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:07.760 down on their phones anyway. They're not looking at the sky. 1201 00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:11.079 Their sky was their television like it is as ours today. 1202 00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:13.360 So them looking at the skys and building things according 1203 00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:15.159 to the stars, and this, that and the third. 1204 00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:17.119 It's going to be pretty accurate. It's history. 1205 00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:19.079 If you see the sun rising the same spot over 1206 00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:20.760 and over again, you're gonna be like, oh yeah, let's 1207 00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:21.360 build something here. 1208 00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:22.320 This would be pretty cool. 1209 00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:24.400 And it's just coming in together as a group of 1210 00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:26.679 individuals trying to do something that when you said, you know, 1211 00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:29.559 the myths and rituals and stuff like that, I think 1212 00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:32.960 the rituals was the you know, being consistent with something, 1213 00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:35.519 and that's how civilization was able to go forward, being 1214 00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:38.400 consistent what we was doing, you know, making sure that 1215 00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:42.800 we paid attention for agricultural needs, you know, paying attention 1216 00:58:42.920 --> 00:58:44.960 to the stars because you never know when the floods 1217 00:58:44.960 --> 00:58:46.360 are going to hit you might have to move your 1218 00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:49.159 land and so forth, or your home or your residence 1219 00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:51.880 from one spot to another to avoid the catastrophe and 1220 00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:54.079 stuff like that. And that's where all these myths start. 1221 00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:57.280 Telling these stories for entertainment wise, no different than when 1222 00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:00.360 you watch Superman and Spider Man when they talk about 1223 00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:03.480 that stuff. You know that they're keeping these stories entertaining 1224 00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:05.719 for people. But sometimes some people can say, hey, there 1225 00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:08.079 was actually not a Spider Man in the sense of 1226 00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:10.599 that idea, but there was actually a Spider Man god, right, 1227 00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:12.639 so and they get some of the remnants to make 1228 00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:15.360 it the Spider Man show and stuff like that. And 1229 00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:19.039 it's just interesting that these myths has been carried for 1230 00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:21.800 because we've been looking at those stars for thousands and 1231 00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:24.039 thousands of years. 1232 00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:30.000 Yeah, it's pretty wild. The ancient Egyptians like to start 1233 00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:33.440 with you've talked about the twenty year pyramid. I'll start there. 1234 00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:37.199 That's that I've referred to as the gateway drug to 1235 00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:40.360 being a pyramidiot. You take any construction worker and tell 1236 00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:42.519 him that it's taken twenty years to build a pyramid, 1237 00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:44.840 They're just like, all right, fuck he what's the other alternatives? 1238 00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:47.840 That's just we're just I'm just out, that's just stupid. 1239 00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:52.000 I'm sorry, that's just stupid. So it's I think that's 1240 00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:54.519 one of the biggest things. I personally think that if 1241 00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:59.360 if the Fourth dynasty is when started and finished the Pyramids, 1242 00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:01.719 that it would be three at a time. I think 1243 01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:04.400 that you would be breaking ground on your sons as 1244 01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:07.320 you finished yours, or as you finish, as you finished 1245 01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:10.360 years broke ground on your grandsons and were halfway done 1246 01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:12.559 with your sons. I think that was a constant thing 1247 01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:17.679 for a few generations there. Assuming that was that they 1248 01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:19.840 were all built in the Fourth dynasty, like like the 1249 01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.840 historians say they were. But when it gets into the 1250 01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:29.039 like Herodicus, you know, he's recycling. He's repeating what he 1251 01:00:29.159 --> 01:00:33.679 was told by an Egyptian priest, so his you know, 1252 01:00:33.760 --> 01:00:39.719 his information is basically operating under the assumptions of the 1253 01:00:39.719 --> 01:00:42.360 Egyptians actually built them and still knew how they were 1254 01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:44.760 built and what had happened and whatnot. If it was 1255 01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:46.800 a different culture, like a lot of people believe that 1256 01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:48.800 it built them and then the Egyptians came in, and 1257 01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:52.320 or that the Egyptians were just whacked so hard that 1258 01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:55.679 they couldn't you know, some cataclysm threw them back into 1259 01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:57.960 where they were spending a little bit of time in 1260 01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:00.400 more subsistence space. Things you don't you don't to care 1261 01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:03.199 so much about your you know, esoteric things when you're 1262 01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:05.960 worried about eating. So it wouldn't take a couple of 1263 01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:07.760 generations to lose a lot of these things. Hell, it 1264 01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:09.719 wouldn't take a couple of generations to lose a lot 1265 01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:11.920 of this stuff. I talk a lot about how you know, 1266 01:01:11.960 --> 01:01:15.800 stonework was stone was the premier building material for millions 1267 01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:18.239 of years, literally millions of years. Hominids were using it 1268 01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:21.800 long before human beings were ever a thing, and so 1269 01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:26.679 you know, parent taught child for millions of years little 1270 01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:29.480 tricky techniques. Now, think about whatever trade you do into 1271 01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:31.599 the little stupid tricks that somebody taught you how to 1272 01:01:31.639 --> 01:01:35.400 cut onions or some bullshit. I'll imagine millions of years 1273 01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:38.719 of accumulated knowledge like that. How fucking good these guys 1274 01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:40.960 had to be with stone, And then in one generation 1275 01:01:41.159 --> 01:01:44.360 somebody comes along with metal, and all of a sudden, 1276 01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:47.079 how much do you know about horseback riding compared to 1277 01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:47.880 your great grandpa? 1278 01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:48.559 Right? 1279 01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:52.559 You know a lot. 1280 01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:54.320 That I was just going to say that dog that's 1281 01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:56.119 a good ass point, bro. And you know it's so 1282 01:01:56.199 --> 01:01:56.880 crazy that you. 1283 01:01:56.840 --> 01:02:00.199 Say that, because I did ah, I talked. 1284 01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:01.159 A couple of different people. 1285 01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:06.199 And you know, the pyramids in Egypt aren't the oldest pyramids. 1286 01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.079 There are pyramids in Peru that are older, right, a 1287 01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:11.000 lot of people are, but they're not the same type 1288 01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:13.880 of pyramids, of course. And then you have the mounds 1289 01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:16.880 in North America that predate the pyramids, and of course 1290 01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:22.000 you had to start with mounds, and then you know pyramid, clay, brick, stone, stone, 1291 01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:22.800 stuff like that. 1292 01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:27.280 But you know when you. 1293 01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:30.719 Said that Herodotus, you know he was he got it 1294 01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:32.679 from the priests. You know, I agree with you one 1295 01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:36.000 hundred percent on that. My question is, wonder does the 1296 01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:39.039 telephone where does the telephone game really begin? 1297 01:02:39.400 --> 01:02:40.039 You know what I mean? 1298 01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:42.800 Like, where where does that begin at? And how accurate 1299 01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:44.960 is it? Because you know, he might have said twenty 1300 01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:47.559 thirty years or he said thirty years. I'm not going 1301 01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:49.639 to say twenty. I actually read thirty from his books. 1302 01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:52.760 He says thirty years. But what did that thirty years 1303 01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:55.159 equivalent to? You know what I'm saying, how did you 1304 01:02:55.280 --> 01:02:56.440 consider your days. 1305 01:02:56.239 --> 01:02:58.159 At that time? Because you know, we don't. We don't. 1306 01:02:58.239 --> 01:03:00.480 We didn't consider our days to saying that we counted 1307 01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:01.480 thirty thousand years. 1308 01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:02.760 Say again, mark. 1309 01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:04.960 With the drifting calendars of the time. 1310 01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:09.119 Yeah, exactly exactly. You know what I'm saying, days coming 1311 01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:10.280 up missing something? 1312 01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:14.519 You know, well literally that you study the Samerian Kings 1313 01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:17.159 List quite a bit tyroid, and that this Samerian Kings 1314 01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:20.440 List is a great example of like that's why they 1315 01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:24.800 call Heroda it's the first historian, because the Samerian Kings List. 1316 01:03:25.039 --> 01:03:26.880 You go out and you read a king's list of 1317 01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:32.400 kings names once every generation plus, because it's probably safe 1318 01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:35.360 to assume that the kings are outliving your commoners for 1319 01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:38.840 the most part. So the odds of anybody actually remembering 1320 01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:41.559 these illiterate fucks didn't write it down, so they didn't 1321 01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:43.559 remember the Kings List. So the whole point of the 1322 01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:47.599 Kings List isn't to record history. It's to legitimize the 1323 01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:50.360 cocksucker I'm putting on the throne right now. So the 1324 01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:53.639 whole point of saying that it took thirty years, that 1325 01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:56.440 could have took three hundred. We're ten times better than 1326 01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:59.079 the history records this as and all it takes is 1327 01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:01.440 again one generation to tell that lie, and we see 1328 01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:03.400 this shit over and over and over all the way 1329 01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:05.760 from too World War two, there was a Battle of 1330 01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:08.840 the Marianna Turkey Shoot where the Americas just shot the 1331 01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:11.480 fuck out of the Japanese fighters. They'd be down like 1332 01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:13.559 one hundred and fifty some on fighters in one day, 1333 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.400 just wrecked their their naval air force. And they were 1334 01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:19.360 so scared to report that to their high command. They 1335 01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:21.519 were like, yeah, we lost two planes. We lost three planes. 1336 01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:24.039 The next day they lost two war they tried to 1337 01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:26.800 triple and drip feed these losses in because they were trying. 1338 01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:29.039 You see it with a lot of a lot of 1339 01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:32.400 battle records. If you look at the Russians and the 1340 01:04:32.440 --> 01:04:35.000 Germans takes on things, it's like, well it looks like 1341 01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:37.000 both sides won that battle. And you kind of just 1342 01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:39.360 have to go to an outside perspective to see people 1343 01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:42.480 get Like mel Gibson says at the beginning to Brave 1344 01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:45.199 haire Man, history is written by the winners, right, It's 1345 01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:47.760 how it goes well. 1346 01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:49.679 And I was going to bring up this idea of 1347 01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:52.800 you know these arts, you know that are basically refined 1348 01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:55.920 and then lost and then found again when you get 1349 01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:59.199 into the Masonic texts, they talk about the fact that 1350 01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:02.559 at the Tower Babel, that these Cushites you know, these 1351 01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:07.280 ancient you know Ethiopians that were these builders of colossal edifices. 1352 01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:10.760 Essentially at the Tower of Babel, they say that the 1353 01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:14.000 art of masonry was lost and then it you know, 1354 01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:17.199 and then the people were scattered and essentially didn't come 1355 01:05:17.239 --> 01:05:20.519 back again until the building of Solomon's Temple. So there 1356 01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:23.559 there's these ideas, you know, and and the same thing 1357 01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:26.880 with metallurgy, you know, it goes back what seven thousand 1358 01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:30.519 years essentially the first earliest smelting you know, piles we 1359 01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:33.360 can find. But if you go back into like Enoch 1360 01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:36.079 and all these stories of the fallen Ones, they were 1361 01:05:36.119 --> 01:05:40.880 bringing these ideas of you know, advanced physics of metal working, 1362 01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:44.400 of all these you know things that uh, you know, 1363 01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:45.800 were the mysteries. Essentially. 1364 01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:48.880 Le Matt King was actually listed in the Bible. 1365 01:05:48.960 --> 01:06:01.239 His son said specifically that he was gifted the Yeah, yeah. 1366 01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:06.079 That's it's uh pretty It's interesting how fire, metallurgy, agriculture, 1367 01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:10.920 these are never handed to us by people. There is 1368 01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:13.840 no we don't, we don't. It makes you wonder how 1369 01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:16.639 how we're gonna look at Eginten in five thousand years 1370 01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:20.079 to get the god came down and split the atom 1371 01:06:20.119 --> 01:06:26.679 of blue of Japan. It's just weird because humans were. 1372 01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:29.599 It's one of the things like what we were saying about, 1373 01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:32.920 like when did the when did the bullshit start? In 1374 01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:35.559 the Egyptian narrative, And I mean one of the things 1375 01:06:35.559 --> 01:06:37.719 that I would use and a lot of historians would too, 1376 01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:40.559 is about the time when the leaders start living more 1377 01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:42.119 than a couple of hundred years. I'm going to go 1378 01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:43.519 out in a limb and say that the story is 1379 01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:45.760 going a little bit off the fucking rails here. We're 1380 01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:48.679 getting into legend and myth and by the time at 1381 01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:51.320 their their ages, like with the Assyrian kings list, when 1382 01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:55.760 they start lining up with astronomical ages, it's like, clearly, clearly, clearly, clearly, 1383 01:06:55.800 --> 01:06:59.519 this is allegorical. This is this is not talking about 1384 01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:02.199 one person lifespan. That's how I look at it, very 1385 01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:05.119 very clearly. This is talking about an age and it's 1386 01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:08.920 so far gone. Again. To reference World War two, go 1387 01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:11.679 to any World War II group on Facebook and watch 1388 01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:15.000 the guy's debate which unit patch was worn by which 1389 01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:17.880 unit at which time and Patten's wife said they had 1390 01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:20.840 to move that patch from their left hand, and what 1391 01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:23.679 date was that? And the Civil war even worse? And 1392 01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:26.320 that's silver where one hundred and fifty years ago? Man, 1393 01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:28.840 And they're gonna so if they can't, if they can't 1394 01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:31.719 tell me what button that we wrote down on a 1395 01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:33.559 card and put it in a fucking file in the 1396 01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:36.079 same country that we live in. Now, they can't tell 1397 01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:38.320 me what button private so and so war on his shirt. 1398 01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:40.599 But you're gonna tell me what happened in ancient Egypt 1399 01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:45.519 fifteen thousand years ago. Sorry, dude, you don't have any 1400 01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:49.000 fucking clue. We have threadbare whispers is all we got. 1401 01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:51.960 We have gossamers of truth, and these documents once they 1402 01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:55.480 get so far so especially when you look at it. 1403 01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:57.400 I think one of the great examples of this is 1404 01:07:57.519 --> 01:08:01.119 looking at the myth of the Flood, the difference between 1405 01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:07.559 Plato and Noah, and with Noah you have the gods 1406 01:08:07.559 --> 01:08:11.920 are angry. The God is angry. It's supports monotheism. Don't 1407 01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:14.599 fuck with God, don't break the rules. If you're a 1408 01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:17.840 good person, you do what God says, you'll be saved. 1409 01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:21.720 Follow the One True God. But with the Greek version 1410 01:08:22.119 --> 01:08:27.159 they're a warlike people, they're democratic, they're noble. They use 1411 01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:30.760 the same precious metals on their temples that the Greeks 1412 01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:35.359 did it. These are cultural lenses, man, that what is 1413 01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:39.520 great about Noah is what was great to Moses because 1414 01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:41.720 he's the one who wrote the fucking story, if assuming 1415 01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:45.039 Moses existed, And what was great about Atlantis was what 1416 01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:47.479 was great to Plato because he's the one that wrote 1417 01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:51.920 the fucking story. It's now. I don't think there wasn't 1418 01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:54.079 some truth to what he was going with. I think 1419 01:08:54.159 --> 01:08:59.319 that these guys were absolutely informed by an outside thing, 1420 01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:03.880 but their story teller right, And go look at whose 1421 01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:06.800 version of King Arthur and the Knights of the Holy 1422 01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:10.079 Grail would you excels nowadays except for the one that's 1423 01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:13.079 got somewhat of a different take. The stories evolve over 1424 01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:15.359 time and they take on the cultural lens of the 1425 01:09:15.359 --> 01:09:18.279 culture that has them. So I personally think that's something 1426 01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:21.359 we I think at one generation's time. I don't think 1427 01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:23.159 if any of you know who the cargo cults are, 1428 01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:27.000 it takes one generation's time and the history just gets 1429 01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:28.119 completely fucked. 1430 01:09:29.800 --> 01:09:31.600 So I was gonna say, now, when you go back 1431 01:09:31.640 --> 01:09:34.640 to these ancient flood stories. You know, yahweh, the storm 1432 01:09:34.680 --> 01:09:37.199 god was mad, and then you have Jupiter was upset 1433 01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:39.960 with the noisiness of the humans. But I was just 1434 01:09:40.239 --> 01:09:42.039 I was down in Newport this weekend and I was 1435 01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:45.319 talking to a sailor and he was talking about the 1436 01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:48.680 sea in regard to a storm, and he said, you know, 1437 01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:52.399 the sea was angry. So it's these, you know, just 1438 01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:57.560 these common little ideas that add weight to you know, 1439 01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:01.119 expanding mythos of these things. And over time, you know, 1440 01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:05.159 like through the telephone system, you essentially have these these 1441 01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:08.840 mythos that just grow and grow and grow and become, 1442 01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:11.560 you know, of godly proportions. 1443 01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:14.560 Yeah, you know, it's interesting y'all talking about the flu 1444 01:10:14.680 --> 01:10:17.600 story because I like to talk about that. So when 1445 01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:20.199 it comes to the flud story, every civilization on this 1446 01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:23.920 planet started by a body of water. It doesn't matter, right, 1447 01:10:24.039 --> 01:10:27.159 It don't matter what you want to think. Every civilization 1448 01:10:27.279 --> 01:10:30.000 started by a body of water. Why, because we need body. 1449 01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:34.680 We need water to survive for our body. Now, maybe 1450 01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:37.960 not in that generation timeframe, but in a generation after 1451 01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:41.079 or a generation after, a flood will hap. Well what 1452 01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:44.399 do you do when a flood comes, Well, you leave 1453 01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:47.680 the area. In those times, people paid attention. I said 1454 01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:50.119 it earlier, people paid attention to the stars. They needed 1455 01:10:50.119 --> 01:10:53.680 to know when it was time for agricultural needs, raining seasons. 1456 01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:55.720 So they might have needed maybe needed to move, and 1457 01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:56.760 so on and so forth. 1458 01:10:57.399 --> 01:11:00.800 So every civilization has a flush story because they live 1459 01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:04.560 by a body of water that eventually flooded. Now we 1460 01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:09.199 go to twenty twenty five, there are billions of Christians. 1461 01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:11.920 Well guess what story is going to be told the 1462 01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:16.399 most The Christian story, right right, mono theistic religion, just 1463 01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:19.399 like y'all two just talked about. Well, what are other 1464 01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:23.039 mono theistic religions. Well, you know that people have the 1465 01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:27.159 Islamic faith out there asse as Christianity. 1466 01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:29.199 And it's all Judaeo based. 1467 01:11:29.239 --> 01:11:30.760 All Abrahammick and they all believe. 1468 01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:32.439 So that's what people are. 1469 01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:35.359 When people are on the telephone, that's the one they're 1470 01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:38.560 talking about. But you don't get to the socifics until 1471 01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:42.039 you talk to people that are you know, you know. 1472 01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:44.560 Even when you get into the Native American tales, you know, 1473 01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:48.119 you have the various tales of the treasure, the cursed 1474 01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:51.239 treasures are under the seas. You know, from the time 1475 01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:53.880 of the Great flood. You have these stories like in 1476 01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:56.560 Mesa Verde, if you go out and look at those 1477 01:11:57.600 --> 01:12:01.680 you know, petroglyphs that are out there, they basically talk about, 1478 01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:04.760 you know, the different tribes and clans that are fleeing 1479 01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:07.800 from this catastrophe. Their stories. 1480 01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:08.439 What was it. 1481 01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:11.840 There's the one story that they ruled, the tribe ruled 1482 01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:15.800 great over the land and tell a greater crut. You know, 1483 01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:19.159 tribe rose up and took them as slave and then 1484 01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:22.279 there was a giant wave that overtook the land, only 1485 01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:25.720 leaving fragments of the people. So you know, even even 1486 01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:29.279 in these you know, within American culture, within South American culture, 1487 01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:33.079 you see these flood stories consistently, you know, throughout. 1488 01:12:32.920 --> 01:12:35.199 And it's because they lived by water. That's gonna be 1489 01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:36.640 that's going it's entertainment. 1490 01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:40.239 They didn't have TV, telephones, tablet, cell phones, computers and 1491 01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:43.039 all these other ship Everybody had to entertain themselves. I mean, hell, 1492 01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:45.600 anybody that went fishing knows that. When you go fishing 1493 01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:47.760 on hunting, when you next to your buddy, y'all are 1494 01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:49.880 sitting here telling some some bushit stories. 1495 01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:51.520 You know, your buddy's lying. 1496 01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:55.880 Around the fire and everybody, you know, drawn in like ferroneous, 1497 01:12:55.920 --> 01:13:01.319 bringing everybody centralizing them telling stories and the stories, especially 1498 01:13:01.520 --> 01:13:04.239 when you're relating that to you know, these these hinges 1499 01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:10.680 and then getting into the cosmological turnings that becomes the 1500 01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:12.720 story behind all the stories. 1501 01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:13.279 Essentially. 1502 01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:16.520 Now, now think about it when somebody else says, hey, 1503 01:13:16.560 --> 01:13:19.199 I had that happen to me. So now two myths 1504 01:13:19.239 --> 01:13:22.720 come into one because you're telling what your buddy had, 1505 01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:25.000 what happened to your buddy, and now you're saying, hey, 1506 01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:26.920 I had the same exact thing, and this is what 1507 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:27.479 happened to me. 1508 01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:28.520 And now you told that story. 1509 01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:31.439 Now the person that's listening to it, they might want 1510 01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:33.279 to be lazy and just be like, this is what 1511 01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:36.239 this what this one person went through and got that 1512 01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:38.560 there were two individuals involved. 1513 01:13:38.399 --> 01:13:41.840 Well, and then that would develop into essentially the priesthood 1514 01:13:42.239 --> 01:13:44.600 that would be in charge of telling the stories that 1515 01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:46.840 were the authorized storytelling. 1516 01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:50.079 Because they were like, wait a minute, I know the training, 1517 01:13:50.239 --> 01:13:50.439 you know. 1518 01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:53.359 Yeah, yeah, you're. 1519 01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:54.640 Right, bro, you absolutely right. 1520 01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:57.479 Because that person was like, yo, I remember him saying that, 1521 01:13:57.680 --> 01:13:59.680 and I remember this guy say that. But they're saying 1522 01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:01.960 this one story. No, hell does two stories. Y'all need 1523 01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:03.520 to get this ship together. We need to write this 1524 01:14:03.560 --> 01:14:05.560 ship down. And that's how right now. 1525 01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:10.840 See, I think I take Graham's standpoint on that flood narrative. 1526 01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:14.159 If you have so many similar stories across the world, 1527 01:14:14.199 --> 01:14:16.920 across the continent, there has to be something to it. 1528 01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:18.079 There's a grain of treat there. 1529 01:14:18.119 --> 01:14:21.079 And I think they're looking back to this what scientists 1530 01:14:21.199 --> 01:14:23.239 call the Younger Dryest period. 1531 01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:24.279 Uh. 1532 01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:26.479 If you guys are into that kind of flood stuff. 1533 01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:30.479 And there's a guy, his name was a doctor Walt Brown. 1534 01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:33.199 He actually worked for NASA and he wrote a book 1535 01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:36.000 called In the Beginning that is one of the best 1536 01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:40.319 pieces of literature that I've ever read on the Younger 1537 01:14:40.399 --> 01:14:45.359 dryas aveent to what he believed happened, which it's a 1538 01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:48.520 long winded thing Ausparians. But if that stuff interests you, 1539 01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:49.960 definitely check that out. 1540 01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:52.800 Yeah, it makes sense and just think about it. 1541 01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:55.239 That's why I said, too, instead of it being one 1542 01:14:55.319 --> 01:15:00.600 whole flood story, right, it's multiple people, different persons. It's 1543 01:15:00.640 --> 01:15:02.880 not every animal was saved on one boat. It was 1544 01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:06.880 every animal that was important to humanity saved on multiple arts. 1545 01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:07.119 Well. 1546 01:15:07.399 --> 01:15:10.359 Right, but now now there's you get in. Yeah, if 1547 01:15:10.359 --> 01:15:12.880 you get into the Persian stories. They actually talk about 1548 01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:16.039 the var, which is where the word arc comes from. 1549 01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:19.199 And the var was actually underground, and they talk about 1550 01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:22.319 how many riding lengths it was, and they basically brought 1551 01:15:22.399 --> 01:15:26.600 all of the miscellaneous plants and you know, animals into 1552 01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:31.359 this cave underground because of the evading frost and and 1553 01:15:31.479 --> 01:15:35.600 essentially so this is pre ice age, you know, mythology 1554 01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:40.359 versus the arc literature, which is you know, basically the 1555 01:15:40.399 --> 01:15:44.079 flood at when all the ice melted. You know, It's 1556 01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:46.520 it's interesting the dichotomy of these stories. 1557 01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:49.840 Uh, they actually have a place like that right now. 1558 01:15:49.840 --> 01:15:52.600 I'm sorry, Yeah, I have actually a bunch of questions. 1559 01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:54.800 I would like to still get in if you don't worry. 1560 01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:57.920 I need to eventually before we run out of time. Sorry, 1561 01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:00.680 I would just keep it real, Dan, I hate to 1562 01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:01.880 go back to it, but I would like to go 1563 01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:03.680 back to the ritual stuff. I know it's been about 1564 01:16:03.720 --> 01:16:05.279 twenty minutes now, but I would like to go back 1565 01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:08.800 to it. Because you're somebody who's been there and seeing 1566 01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:10.239 this stuff. I would like to take advantage of that. 1567 01:16:12.239 --> 01:16:14.159 When it comes to these places that you think of rituals, 1568 01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:17.760 did you ever notice, uh, would they have nothing inscribed 1569 01:16:17.800 --> 01:16:20.000 in them, or they have actual symbols in these areas 1570 01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:23.279 as well. Oh and this is like one of like 1571 01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:25.079 three questions, so please everybody. 1572 01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:28.479 Just get well, you know, I some some areas seem 1573 01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:31.840 to have some symbols, I mean usually how do you 1574 01:16:31.880 --> 01:16:33.600 put it? Are there are areas that I would think 1575 01:16:33.640 --> 01:16:36.439 that are uh Like I said, I think the rituals 1576 01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:39.319 were done in the Pyramids and those are definitely devoid 1577 01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:41.039 as symbols. But yeah, a lot of places have a 1578 01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:44.199 lot of symbols slapped on them. It just depends on 1579 01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:46.359 the culture that was doing it. You know, to some 1580 01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:47.720 less was more, it seems. 1581 01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:51.000 Did you ever notice like maybe a certain type like 1582 01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:54.199 maybe spirals or certain certain ones that almost seemed very 1583 01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:55.079 reminiscent of. 1584 01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:59.000 The spiral motif is pretty common? Yeah, that's spirals that 1585 01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:04.279 spiral the cross us a spiral across the circle and 1586 01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:06.800 circles not too complicated, but yeah, those ones, I mean, 1587 01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:09.159 the cross is a pretty normal one too. All of 1588 01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:12.560 those are ones you're going to see in nature. And 1589 01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:14.479 I think the spiral is one that somebody that like 1590 01:17:14.560 --> 01:17:18.680 looked at water would probably be pretty into, especially if 1591 01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:20.560 they started feeling like they were seeing that sort of 1592 01:17:20.560 --> 01:17:22.239 pattern in the stars and all or something that they 1593 01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:24.079 felt like they could extrapolate that to anything. 1594 01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:24.960 Yeah. 1595 01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:28.399 Uh, this is a little specific though, just to keep 1596 01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:30.199 on going on with the same one. Would you notice 1597 01:17:30.199 --> 01:17:33.199 these like maybe prior to entering the ritual area or 1598 01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:36.880 it's in the ritual area? Depends youn to sound like 1599 01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:38.359 what I'm trying to get at, right, Yeah. 1600 01:17:38.279 --> 01:17:41.960 Yeah, yeah, Like you know in some in some places, 1601 01:17:42.239 --> 01:17:46.159 like it seems like there's some areas where it seems 1602 01:17:46.199 --> 01:17:48.680 like they try to just slap you in the face 1603 01:17:48.760 --> 01:17:51.600 with symbolism, if you get it. There are certain towns 1604 01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:54.279 here on the West Coast where I live, where there 1605 01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:58.119 are planned cities, and some of them are pretty I mean, 1606 01:17:58.199 --> 01:18:00.439 like I get pretty skeptical about this stuff. Some pretty 1607 01:18:00.439 --> 01:18:03.800 clearly influenced by people that were in the freemasonry and shit, right, 1608 01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:06.439 I mean when they build the city streets certain ways 1609 01:18:06.479 --> 01:18:09.680 and whatnot. It's like, Okay, again, I'm pretty skeptical a 1610 01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:12.119 lot of stuff, But I don't have to believe adrenochrome 1611 01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:15.359 works to believe that some people do and they can 1612 01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:17.640 do some goofy shit in the name of a trino crew. 1613 01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:17.920 Right. 1614 01:18:19.560 --> 01:18:21.960 So this is this is where like there are a 1615 01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:24.640 lot of there are a lot of things where they 1616 01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:26.600 just kind of seem to just try to browbeat you 1617 01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:29.439 with symbolism just as soon as you get it. But 1618 01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:31.199 then again, I mean there's times where I could just 1619 01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:34.119 not be getting the symbolism, so I'm missing it right. 1620 01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:36.920 I'd like to think that I know everything, but as 1621 01:18:36.920 --> 01:18:39.239 my teenager constantly reminds you of what fucking. 1622 01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:45.800 Idiots now, that the reason I'm asking is because I 1623 01:18:45.840 --> 01:18:49.039 know there are some places where it does seem like 1624 01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:51.520 that some of these symbols might actually be representing a 1625 01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:54.560 frequency that needs to be used with the room, you know, 1626 01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:56.239 because you'll have the frequency of the earth, you have 1627 01:18:56.279 --> 01:18:58.000 the frequency of the building, and then like whatever you're 1628 01:18:58.000 --> 01:18:59.560 trying to equal, you can probably have to meet to 1629 01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:02.960 the both together, like maybe with like whatever music and 1630 01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:07.720 stuff going onside the room, which, if that's possible, leads 1631 01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:12.159 me into like my next question, and kind of do 1632 01:19:12.199 --> 01:19:14.960 you think, like you're talking about these these containers in 1633 01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:18.119 the pyramids, do you think it's possible actually really wasn't 1634 01:19:18.159 --> 01:19:21.479 technically meant for dead people? At first, I. 1635 01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:25.520 Think that's possible, but I don't, like I have some 1636 01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:28.239 serious problems with a lot of the hypotheses that's around. 1637 01:19:28.399 --> 01:19:30.560 Like to start with, like I worked as electrician for 1638 01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:32.720 a long time and there's most of these, Like we're 1639 01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:36.840 talking about the chemical power plant hypothesis earlier. Jeffrey Dumb 1640 01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:39.479 from Land of Ken has made a bunch of videos 1641 01:19:39.479 --> 01:19:43.439 about that, and I like a lot of what he 1642 01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:46.199 has to say. These are these aren't outlandish in and 1643 01:19:46.239 --> 01:19:48.960 of themselves, but we do have some problems. Like the 1644 01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:53.079 piezoelectric effect that they talk about quite frequently. That is 1645 01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:55.560 it's real. I mean, you operate the quartz watch, it 1646 01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:58.960 operates a charcoal igniter. That's where your spark comes from 1647 01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:01.199 on those little stars cole wands that you use to 1648 01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:06.199 light year. But there's very specific things that have to 1649 01:20:06.279 --> 01:20:09.479 be done. The crystal has to be sandwiched between pieces 1650 01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:11.760 of metal. You have to separate that current into a 1651 01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:16.920 positive and a negative it so that it's usable, otherwise 1652 01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:20.319 it dissipates immediately. The pyramid is made of limestone, the 1653 01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:23.960 same as the bedrock, so there really isn't a functional 1654 01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:26.359 difference between the pyramid and the ground. So that's going 1655 01:20:26.439 --> 01:20:29.439 to make your electricity just kind of it's going to 1656 01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:31.279 want to seep away as soon as you generate it. 1657 01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:36.439 If to take an entire block that's got little pieces 1658 01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:39.359 of limestone suspended in the matrix, and then to harness 1659 01:20:39.399 --> 01:20:42.199 all the electricity when that block was pressed down on, 1660 01:20:42.319 --> 01:20:47.279 for example, you would have to have all of the 1661 01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:51.520 quartz crystals would have to be magnetically aligned, which that's 1662 01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:53.840 not happening in two top blocks, men, unless you're talking 1663 01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:56.279 lottery winners one after the I mean billion to one 1664 01:20:56.319 --> 01:20:58.279 odds over and over and over for each one of 1665 01:20:58.279 --> 01:21:02.239 those blocks. And then you'd have to sandwich it between metal. 1666 01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:03.680 Like I was saying earlier, you have a piece of 1667 01:21:03.720 --> 01:21:09.359 metal on top and bottom of each bread. So them 1668 01:21:09.399 --> 01:21:11.960 harnessing electricity on the pyramid is something that if I 1669 01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:14.039 was handed that and told to install it, I'd be like, well, 1670 01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:15.279 I don't know how the fun is it gonna work? 1671 01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:17.560 Is not going to happen? What? What? What part am 1672 01:21:17.600 --> 01:21:20.880 I missing here? What am I not included with this? 1673 01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:23.319 So I don't see the pizo electric thing. I think 1674 01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:27.000 that one is non it's it's a non starter. So 1675 01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:32.359 that limits a lot of the technological things that I've 1676 01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:35.079 heard come out of the pyramid. Almost all of the 1677 01:21:35.119 --> 01:21:37.600 ones that get into goofy technology. It all tend to 1678 01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:41.880 lean on that, the pizo electric qualities of quartz, and yeah, 1679 01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:44.359 I would like the two little pieces of copper that 1680 01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:46.279 we have in the door, And people are like, oh, 1681 01:21:46.319 --> 01:21:49.520 you know that kind of carried electricity. It's like the 1682 01:21:49.640 --> 01:21:53.560 voltage drop is a thing and it's it's calculable, and 1683 01:21:53.640 --> 01:21:56.960 you lose electricity based on how far you go. The 1684 01:21:56.960 --> 01:21:59.920 only way to counter that is with bigger pieces of wy. 1685 01:22:00.359 --> 01:22:02.520 So if you drive from a dam to the next 1686 01:22:02.520 --> 01:22:04.800 city and it's like one hundred mile jaunt, you'll notice 1687 01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:07.439 the power cables above you're that fucking bigger round And 1688 01:22:07.479 --> 01:22:10.880 that's not to attract tweakers. That's to keep the electricity 1689 01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:13.760 flying down the road. So in the pyramid, when you 1690 01:22:13.840 --> 01:22:16.560 got these little pieces of wire that are about you know, 1691 01:22:16.920 --> 01:22:19.039 millions of a you know, eighth of an inch thick, 1692 01:22:19.560 --> 01:22:22.199 they ain't carrying very much, especially in the seven hundred 1693 01:22:22.239 --> 01:22:27.039 and fifty foot runs. So yeah, my technical knowledge makes 1694 01:22:27.039 --> 01:22:29.239 it where that there's certain parts of that that I 1695 01:22:29.279 --> 01:22:34.600 am skeptical of. Now I am all about like anything 1696 01:22:34.640 --> 01:22:37.159 that can be demonstrated or or again, like I said, 1697 01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:39.920 I don't want to be cynical. I want to be 1698 01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:43.079 skeptical about things. So i'mfect if somebody talks to me 1699 01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:44.960 about things and shows me where I'm wrong on some 1700 01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:48.439 of this, I'm perfectly happy to discuss it. But by 1701 01:22:48.520 --> 01:22:51.479 and large, as as fast as that electricity is generated 1702 01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:53.319 from the pies of electric effect, that's going to pour 1703 01:22:53.359 --> 01:22:54.399 into the ground. 1704 01:22:56.199 --> 01:22:58.520 So you see those Oh sorry, go ahead, no, no, no, 1705 01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:00.840 all right, Well, I just have kind of like one 1706 01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:02.720 last question, and it's kind of be like long and 1707 01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:06.279 drawn out to one of the reasons. And I'm not 1708 01:23:06.319 --> 01:23:09.479 trying to like say all this to brag. It's just 1709 01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:11.920 my experience where I go along with this story. Now, 1710 01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.960 like certain things with you know, you hear about these tombs. 1711 01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:17.840 If you think about the top being on, you can't 1712 01:23:17.840 --> 01:23:19.560 even get the fuck out. If you're in there, probably 1713 01:23:19.680 --> 01:23:22.640 you can't even push the fucking thing off. You hear 1714 01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:25.479 about people going in caskets. When I used to do 1715 01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:27.560 I used to be a ceremonial Still I'm a magician. 1716 01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:29.399 I just haven't really done any rituals, but I used 1717 01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:30.840 to be a ceremonial magician. I used to be a 1718 01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:34.239 member of the Auto Temple Orientis, and I used to 1719 01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:37.279 do ceremonial. You know, shit a lot, and I'll keep 1720 01:23:37.319 --> 01:23:40.159 it real. I used to use the astromargentum hood and 1721 01:23:40.279 --> 01:23:42.920 robe when I did it. Now that has no mouthpiece 1722 01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:46.159 at all. It is just us. So now, if you're 1723 01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:49.399 fumigating and you got all this smoke going on and 1724 01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:52.680 you're supposed to be vibrating these words real hard to exhaustion, 1725 01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:57.880 you're gonna start having oxygen deprivation and you're gonna start 1726 01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:02.399 having fucking weird experiences. So could that be? And what 1727 01:24:02.399 --> 01:24:04.760 I'm getting at is, now, could that be what's being 1728 01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:06.960 used in it? It's kind of a double question. And 1729 01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:09.800 the people who are deeming these areas as rituals, have 1730 01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:12.319 they actually been in one, participated in one, or written 1731 01:24:12.319 --> 01:24:13.760 one themselves to know what a ritual is and what 1732 01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:14.520 the fuck's going on? 1733 01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:18.720 I think some of them have. There is a like 1734 01:24:18.800 --> 01:24:22.600 you can rent the Great Pyramid that have seances in 1735 01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:25.960 and shit like you and numerous people have done that 1736 01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:29.119 over the years. So and I'm you know, you're gonna 1737 01:24:29.119 --> 01:24:32.560 have varying degrees of experience and expertise and all that stuff. 1738 01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:40.760 But as far as people like like these different rituals 1739 01:24:41.199 --> 01:24:43.439 affecting your mind, in a certain way. I mean, that's 1740 01:24:43.479 --> 01:24:48.039 almost almost guaranteed to be part of it, right, Like 1741 01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:52.800 you're talking about you're talking about basically you're getting out 1742 01:24:52.800 --> 01:24:55.000 of the out of the realm of scientific inquiry and 1743 01:24:55.039 --> 01:24:57.359 into the realm of personal experience. And there's nothing wrong 1744 01:24:57.399 --> 01:24:58.920 with that. As a matter of fact, it's one of 1745 01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:00.640 my favorite things. I babbled about this all the time. 1746 01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:02.600 It's one of my favorite things about the book or 1747 01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:05.079 the movie Contact, is that if for those of you 1748 01:25:05.119 --> 01:25:06.760 who've seen it, I assume most of you have seen 1749 01:25:06.800 --> 01:25:09.319 it Contact, the one where Jodie Foster falls through the 1750 01:25:09.319 --> 01:25:11.439 little ball and talks to her dad, that's actually an 1751 01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:15.800 alien thing, right, all the scientific skepticism in the world. 1752 01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:19.279 She's a scientist, she's dealing with scientists. Carl Sagan was 1753 01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:23.159 a scientist, an atheist, and when it's all said and done, 1754 01:25:23.359 --> 01:25:26.439 she had a personal experience. Take it or leave it, right, Fuck, 1755 01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:28.479 this is what happened to me. You want you don't 1756 01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:29.920 believe me, go crawl on the ball and fall through 1757 01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:34.800 it your goddamn self. But that's uh, that's how to me. 1758 01:25:34.920 --> 01:25:37.880 That's it's a huge part of it, right, Like, in 1759 01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:40.600 order to have any scientific discussion, you kind of have 1760 01:25:40.680 --> 01:25:43.359 to start from a perceptive, from a from a places. 1761 01:25:44.199 --> 01:25:45.840 You have to make some assumptions, like I have to 1762 01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:47.960 assume that we both exist. You're not a figment of 1763 01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:50.600 my imagination, You're not my dream, and this isn't all 1764 01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:54.000 just my reality is and you're nothing. We have to 1765 01:25:54.039 --> 01:25:56.680 assume that reality exists. We have to assume that, like 1766 01:25:56.720 --> 01:25:58.800 we can learn from reality that if I throw this, 1767 01:25:58.920 --> 01:26:00.760 it's not just going to keep flying eye one time 1768 01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:03.560 and follow the next that I think there's there's patterns. 1769 01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:06.279 And if we make these assumptions, we can have a 1770 01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:10.119 conversation about reality, about science and stuff. But if we don't, 1771 01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:12.640 then one of us can sit here and be like, well, yeah, man, 1772 01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:14.920 but you're just a figment of my imagination anyway, Well 1773 01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:20.159 yeah man, and those kinds of ritual things where you 1774 01:26:20.199 --> 01:26:22.880 where you alter your state of consciousness. This does get 1775 01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:27.319 into things that are I forget a dude's name, but 1776 01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:32.079 who the geneticists that said that LSD helped him crack DNA? Right, 1777 01:26:34.319 --> 01:26:39.600 thank you? This isn't uh, you know, this isn't without precedent. 1778 01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:41.960 You know, the human those spirals that you're talking about 1779 01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:44.600 and stuff earlier those are almost certainly some of these 1780 01:26:44.640 --> 01:26:46.840 symbols that we see all over the place almost certainly 1781 01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:51.239 part of magic mushrooms or you know, peyote or whatever 1782 01:26:51.279 --> 01:26:54.079 the hallucinogen of choice was amongst those people. You definitely 1783 01:26:54.079 --> 01:26:57.720 see it in South American Native Native American art, they 1784 01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:01.520 definitely definitely see it, those zigzags, the lightning bolt patterns. 1785 01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:03.720 That for those of you who have eaten mushrooms, which 1786 01:27:03.760 --> 01:27:06.680 I totally never have, you may or may not see 1787 01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:10.039 those kinds of things. So you know, there's certain certain 1788 01:27:10.039 --> 01:27:13.159 stuff you can recognize. And it's almost why it's it's 1789 01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:15.000 a funny thing to me actually, where so many people 1790 01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:18.479 will be like, oh, Graham does hallucinogens, and therefore his 1791 01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:20.840 his opinion on these things is just all tainted by 1792 01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:24.039 all this goofiness. It's like, Okay, let me ask you 1793 01:27:24.039 --> 01:27:26.159 a question. You think that the guy that was in 1794 01:27:26.279 --> 01:27:28.560 charge of the people and told him to build that pyramid, 1795 01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:30.920 you think that fucker never did no hallucinogens. He was 1796 01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:33.840 a fucking royalty in a time when that shit was like, 1797 01:27:35.600 --> 01:27:37.279 who do you think commissioned him to figure out the 1798 01:27:37.279 --> 01:27:39.920 fucking formula for ayahuasca? You dumb shit, You think it 1799 01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:44.239 was some poor person, some tweaker. No, it was a royalty, 1800 01:27:45.039 --> 01:27:49.439 royalty man, people that were elites. So it's I think 1801 01:27:49.439 --> 01:27:50.960 it's a good lens to look through. A lot of 1802 01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:53.560 that stuff is a hallucinage. A lot of things I 1803 01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:59.079 don't think we'll understand properly without altering our state of consciousness. 1804 01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:01.159 Right, I think that helps. Its kind of like a 1805 01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:03.800 little bit of like a cheek code to magical experience 1806 01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:07.960 in my opinion, kind of like some people take mushrooms, 1807 01:28:08.039 --> 01:28:13.600 or you can go to the extreme like flatliners. The movie. Yeah, 1808 01:28:14.199 --> 01:28:14.479 if you. 1809 01:28:14.439 --> 01:28:19.119 Read Carlos Costanada, Oh yeah, Okay. One of the experiences 1810 01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:21.840 that he spoke of that I thought was really cool 1811 01:28:22.239 --> 01:28:24.840 was there he'd been dosed dozens and dozens of times. 1812 01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:28.520 He had his reality just kicked in multiple times. And 1813 01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:33.279 his shaman sets him sitting looking like meditating, looking across 1814 01:28:33.279 --> 01:28:36.920 the field at a tree, and he sees a white 1815 01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:39.680 dot behind the tree, and then the white dot begins 1816 01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:41.720 to grow and it does all this goofy shit and 1817 01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:44.880 it just fills his mind and he sees all these 1818 01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:47.800 visions and he's sober, he's not on mushrooms at the time. 1819 01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:53.159 And then his shaman ship goes over and walks over 1820 01:28:53.199 --> 01:28:56.600 to the tree and the root the seed of that 1821 01:28:56.640 --> 01:28:58.560 white thing that he saw was a little towel that 1822 01:28:58.600 --> 01:29:01.039 the shaman had tied to the tree. He didn't hallucinate 1823 01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:05.479 any that shaman had planted a seat, right, You know, 1824 01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:09.399 things like that are you know, on the flip side 1825 01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:11.039 of that, I talk about experience, I had a lot 1826 01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:14.039 where I saw something that it wasn't real. I saw 1827 01:29:14.520 --> 01:29:16.000 I got out of the tub when I was young, 1828 01:29:16.279 --> 01:29:18.760 and the window I saw a guy in like a 1829 01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:21.520 hazmat suit like staring at the window and he was 1830 01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:23.760 angry and he's looking right at me. He looked mad, 1831 01:29:24.279 --> 01:29:26.119 and I was like freaking the fuck out, And then 1832 01:29:26.199 --> 01:29:28.840 like I did this instead of turning to run, And 1833 01:29:28.880 --> 01:29:31.439 when I shifted the it was light and fog on 1834 01:29:31.479 --> 01:29:34.640 the window in my imagination, and that made it. That's 1835 01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:36.159 a lot of the reason I'm as skeptical as I 1836 01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:38.479 am because I know that what I saw wasn't real. 1837 01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:40.680 But had I ran out of that room, you still 1838 01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:43.039 couldn't convince me to this day that I hadn't seen it. 1839 01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:48.159 So and this is you know, you get what's where 1840 01:29:48.479 --> 01:29:50.800 why I brought up like these positions we have to 1841 01:29:50.800 --> 01:29:54.600 take because you get it gets philosophical, it gets outside 1842 01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:58.760 of the realm of science. Like Laotseay famously said, last night, 1843 01:29:58.760 --> 01:30:01.520 I dreamt that I was a butter fly or was 1844 01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:03.680 that a butterfly dreaming? He was a loud to say. 1845 01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:07.439 Right now, it's you know, we really these things. We 1846 01:30:07.520 --> 01:30:10.920 really get into the reason that people ask questions about 1847 01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:13.439 God and you know, eternity and all these kinds of 1848 01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:18.399 things because you know, we have these ideas that our 1849 01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:23.560 experience doesn't coincide with we We believe in perfection, we 1850 01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:27.079 believe in infinity. We understand these things, but our experience 1851 01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:29.239 is in no way, shape or form back that up. 1852 01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:32.359 This is just complete that's making. 1853 01:30:32.119 --> 01:30:35.960 It up well and interesting. With brain science, I saw 1854 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:38.119 an article on the fact that they could go in 1855 01:30:38.520 --> 01:30:42.600 and monitor how the vision perceives an item and then 1856 01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:46.039 how the brain recalls what it is and it'll basically 1857 01:30:46.159 --> 01:30:50.359 shift through different you know, images until it hits the 1858 01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:53.560 right one and then you have the realization. So during 1859 01:30:53.560 --> 01:30:57.560 the time that it's shifting through those things, the potential 1860 01:30:57.720 --> 01:31:01.479 of you know, seeing anything is there. Yeah, you know, 1861 01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:04.880 So if you put your states yourself into this liminal state. 1862 01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:09.439 Then it's all, you know, platonic subjective reality. 1863 01:31:10.439 --> 01:31:14.199 That's very, very true. And a lot of people will 1864 01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:15.880 say that that's, you know, just a bunch of pseudo 1865 01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:19.760 scientific hippiass wou. But in my opinion, like psychology is 1866 01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:22.239 a fundamental I say it all the time. It's a 1867 01:31:22.279 --> 01:31:25.680 soft science, soft as fuck because it's self reported data, 1868 01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:28.800 so you get like, you know, Epstein's clients didn't say 1869 01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:31.199 that they had these weird fetishes when they were talking 1870 01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:34.560 to their psychiatrists. Right, The people less self report tend 1871 01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:38.560 to fucking lie. But but if you don't look through 1872 01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:41.039 all this stuff through the lens of psychology, you're gonna 1873 01:31:41.039 --> 01:31:44.520 fall into so many pitfalls. You know. One of the 1874 01:31:44.560 --> 01:31:46.399 best thought tools I use for this is just to 1875 01:31:46.399 --> 01:31:48.680 look at the electromagnetic spectrum and then look at that 1876 01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:51.560 tiny little sliver that you can actually sus we have 1877 01:31:51.640 --> 01:31:53.680 to build tools to go on and see everything else. 1878 01:31:55.079 --> 01:31:56.079 That is a good point too. 1879 01:31:56.520 --> 01:31:58.800 We're a little fuck we're little monkeys with these crazy 1880 01:31:58.840 --> 01:32:02.960 ideas and lofty, lofty ideas. Oh, we could be perfect, 1881 01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:05.399 we could never sin, we could make this world where 1882 01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:08.560 nobody ever suffered in all this and then yeah, but 1883 01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:10.239 when I get off here, I'm gonna go eat something 1884 01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:12.159 that was a live. Fuck that thing. It's dead now. 1885 01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:14.119 It's probably like one hundred things ground together. And then 1886 01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:16.159 maybe I'll go fuck something after I take a dump. 1887 01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:19.760 We're just, oh fuck, We're just We're just animals. We're 1888 01:32:19.800 --> 01:32:20.640 fucking animals. 1889 01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:20.880 Man. 1890 01:32:22.119 --> 01:32:26.479 I wanted to bring up an example of the anthropomorphic 1891 01:32:27.159 --> 01:32:31.640 tummy holding you mentioned earlier. In terms of a modern 1892 01:32:31.680 --> 01:32:33.439 iteration of monkeys. 1893 01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:34.199 Uh. 1894 01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:39.399 The wise monkeys are usually known as the three wise monkeys. 1895 01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:43.760 Hear no evil, Speak no evil, see no evil, excuse me? 1896 01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:49.479 The three there is the missing fourth, the often unpresented 1897 01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:53.680 fourth monkey, who is called fear no evil. And this 1898 01:32:53.840 --> 01:32:59.079 monkey holds his dantienne or center in Chinese, below the 1899 01:32:59.119 --> 01:33:03.159 belly button where our energy is stored and amidst from 1900 01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:10.039 in Daoist consensuality. But he's holding the center and being 1901 01:33:10.119 --> 01:33:13.920 fearless and unmoved compared to the other monkeys that are 1902 01:33:14.840 --> 01:33:17.680 partial minded and so forth. I wonder what you think 1903 01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:19.640 of that, and maybe if you could break down some 1904 01:33:19.680 --> 01:33:22.800 more of that global symbolism of the tummy holding. 1905 01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:27.359 Nice. Oh yeah, the well, first of all, I love Daoism, 1906 01:33:28.199 --> 01:33:30.680 and I do I think it's a great example of 1907 01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:35.800 the Dowada seeing is a book of basic proverbs and truth, 1908 01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:38.439 and that it quickly gets into the weeds with with 1909 01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:41.399 further books, but some of them still they still contain 1910 01:33:41.560 --> 01:33:44.560 secret like uh little a lot of times a little 1911 01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:48.159 glimpses of truth, but like probably the most advanced Dallas 1912 01:33:48.199 --> 01:33:50.359 text I've read was the Secret of the Golden Flower. 1913 01:33:50.399 --> 01:33:52.279 And by the time you get there, you are definitely 1914 01:33:52.319 --> 01:33:55.479 into the weeds, as far as you are no longer 1915 01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:58.520 one with water. I let's just put it that way. 1916 01:33:58.760 --> 01:34:03.159 You're built, understand, you straight along ways from just trying 1917 01:34:03.199 --> 01:34:06.119 to not do anything and not be anything, and not 1918 01:34:06.199 --> 01:34:08.439 fight with yourself and not strive you. You've come a 1919 01:34:08.439 --> 01:34:11.760 long way from the Talita sing at this point. But 1920 01:34:12.159 --> 01:34:15.960 it is uh, it is interesting that that that they 1921 01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:18.680 do believe that the seat of the chakra stuff aligns 1922 01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:21.640 a lot with this the kundolini and all that aligns 1923 01:34:21.680 --> 01:34:24.439 well with the idea of the holding of the navel. 1924 01:34:25.720 --> 01:34:29.399 Now that the naval stuff pops up again with metallurgy 1925 01:34:29.479 --> 01:34:34.840 and or agriculture almost everywhere you see it. It's almost 1926 01:34:34.920 --> 01:34:37.560 like it was this knowledge that this packet that was 1927 01:34:37.600 --> 01:34:40.319 passed around and that it was like do people would 1928 01:34:40.399 --> 01:34:43.560 learn how to to farm, they would learn how to smelt, 1929 01:34:43.880 --> 01:34:46.159 and at the same time they would start making these 1930 01:34:46.439 --> 01:34:48.720 This motif was one of the motifs that would prop 1931 01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:53.600 up And honestly, it seems pretty basic to me. What 1932 01:34:53.600 --> 01:34:59.680 what it represents? You know, if but again we're we're 1933 01:34:59.720 --> 01:35:03.720 runn animals, right, But if I've got so much food 1934 01:35:03.760 --> 01:35:05.760 that I don't need to be a running animal, I 1935 01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:07.680 can put my hand on my stomach and just to 1936 01:35:07.680 --> 01:35:10.199 symbolize that I'm full. And that even goes to what 1937 01:35:10.319 --> 01:35:12.880 the ones in the task teple our culture. A lot 1938 01:35:12.920 --> 01:35:15.119 of times they're literally holding their dick in their hand. 1939 01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:19.680 And if you've got no TV and nothing to do 1940 01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:21.840 all day because you have a surplus of food, what 1941 01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:25.000 will you be doing? So, as you know, these ancient people, 1942 01:35:25.319 --> 01:35:27.960 they fucked a lot, and so these were symbols of 1943 01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:30.319 these things. I personally think that that was like part 1944 01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:33.439 of the symbody. It was braggered, Look, I've got time, 1945 01:35:33.840 --> 01:35:37.039 we make better tools, we store more food, and to 1946 01:35:37.119 --> 01:35:40.159 prove it. Look, and then you look at the statues 1947 01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:42.279 of women. They made the same kind of thing. Look, 1948 01:35:42.279 --> 01:35:44.359 our women are so fucking fat. They can't even get 1949 01:35:44.359 --> 01:35:48.239 off the chair. They're fed. It's they had some very 1950 01:35:48.279 --> 01:35:51.640 weird ideas that would show up in this initial run 1951 01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:54.119 of agriculture, and. 1952 01:35:54.039 --> 01:35:56.520 You see it woven all through the mythology as well. 1953 01:35:56.840 --> 01:35:59.960 You do you do you see that same fat woman 1954 01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:02.479 with animal on both sides. A lot of the Master 1955 01:36:02.560 --> 01:36:07.960 of Beese are overweight women, and yeah, yeah, and that's 1956 01:36:08.159 --> 01:36:10.920 very that that master of bee symbol is in my mind, 1957 01:36:11.319 --> 01:36:13.439 part of that same whole thing where it's like we 1958 01:36:14.640 --> 01:36:17.600 these these things used to chase us. Now we cage 1959 01:36:17.640 --> 01:36:21.800 them and trade them. Right, I'm gonna just go yeah, 1960 01:36:21.840 --> 01:36:25.119 but it's we are our whole other level now. And 1961 01:36:25.239 --> 01:36:29.159 so that that's shown with an obese woman is like 1962 01:36:29.359 --> 01:36:32.520 everything a prehistoric dude would want. Here. Here's here's a 1963 01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:37.239 naked chick. She's got plenty of food, and she's mastered animals. 1964 01:36:37.239 --> 01:36:40.479 It's like ready to reproduce to yeah. Oh yeah, clearly 1965 01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:46.479 if she hasn't already right right, yeah, it's it is funny. 1966 01:36:46.520 --> 01:36:49.439 One of the theories, one of the hypotheses I should 1967 01:36:49.479 --> 01:36:53.279 say that the anthropologists have for those venus statues is 1968 01:36:53.359 --> 01:36:57.600 that they were like prehistoric porn, like some some kid 1969 01:36:57.680 --> 01:37:00.840 takes a little statue behind the tree. I tell it, dude, 1970 01:37:03.840 --> 01:37:06.319 like you couldn't just hang out like by the tenth 1971 01:37:06.359 --> 01:37:08.079 the chicks for standing by or some would look at 1972 01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:09.640 it every now and again, and I gotta spend like 1973 01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:12.800 two hundred hours. I personally never bought that hypothesis, but 1974 01:37:12.840 --> 01:37:14.319 I've always mocked it because it's funny. 1975 01:37:15.079 --> 01:37:15.840 Yeah, No, I don't. 1976 01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:16.760 I don't get that either. 1977 01:37:17.600 --> 01:37:19.479 I've even pointed out the internet to go on. And 1978 01:37:19.840 --> 01:37:21.520 I just do think there might be something behind it, 1979 01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:24.399 because you mentioned venuses a lot of times like she'll 1980 01:37:24.399 --> 01:37:26.600 Bey's shown just like one breast showing. 1981 01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:27.800 I do. 1982 01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:30.479 I'm trying to show a case with just my idea 1983 01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:33.199 of the Knox formula from Crowley. I think a lot 1984 01:37:33.239 --> 01:37:34.800 of it has to do with the optic nerve and 1985 01:37:35.279 --> 01:37:37.920 and crossing, you know, certain shit like that, and in uh, 1986 01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:40.720 you know, part of his ritual he does have you 1987 01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:44.000 act like your isis busfeeding. You know, nipple will be 1988 01:37:44.079 --> 01:37:47.880 exposed when the baby puts its mouth on the nipple. 1989 01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:51.479 It actually connects to the mother's paniol glend right, Yeah, 1990 01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:53.760 and this hold up baby is gonna know where it 1991 01:37:53.920 --> 01:37:55.319 is the time and day and all that from the 1992 01:37:55.359 --> 01:37:57.640 month's panial gland. So I mean, maybe it's not that 1993 01:37:57.760 --> 01:37:59.800 deep because I know Crawley, you know, people think things 1994 01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:02.039 out him. I'm not saying he was a great guy either, 1995 01:38:02.680 --> 01:38:04.880 but maybe there is some science in there. Maybe there isn't, 1996 01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:07.119 but I mean, there is a definite connection with breastfeeding 1997 01:38:07.159 --> 01:38:09.279 in the pineal glands from both his mother and child. 1998 01:38:09.520 --> 01:38:11.680 So I do wonder if that's even being symbolized in 1999 01:38:11.760 --> 01:38:14.279 there as other things. Those other things, I don't know. 2000 01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:18.039 I had one. I used to do ebail a lot 2001 01:38:18.159 --> 01:38:22.359 for a living, and I uh stumbled across that Crowley's 2002 01:38:22.399 --> 01:38:24.680 tarot deck once and sold that for a few hundred bucks. 2003 01:38:24.720 --> 01:38:28.520 That was a good it's a good fine. Apparently it's 2004 01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:29.079 pretty rare. 2005 01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:32.079 I've seen I've seen people on there actually showing like 2006 01:38:32.119 --> 01:38:34.239 I think original printings. Yeah, for a few hundred dollars. 2007 01:38:34.279 --> 01:38:35.439 I wonder if one of them was you. When I 2008 01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:39.439 was looking, oh years years ago, when I was looking 2009 01:38:39.439 --> 01:38:41.079 at I was like, damn, these things are expensive. 2010 01:38:41.680 --> 01:38:45.199 Fuck man, They're crazy expensive. It's that's tough. Uh, you know, 2011 01:38:45.319 --> 01:38:50.159 before before the Internet and as the Internet archive archiving 2012 01:38:50.239 --> 01:38:52.800 all the books and stuff, man, like I got a uh, 2013 01:38:53.399 --> 01:38:57.239 I've got a paperback, like bootleg copy of a book 2014 01:38:57.319 --> 01:39:01.399 that was like hundreds of dollars up until maybe five 2015 01:39:01.479 --> 01:39:03.279 years ago, ten years ago, And now you can just 2016 01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:05.600 get you get on the internet and press some buttons 2017 01:39:05.640 --> 01:39:08.359 and view it in any different So now the original 2018 01:39:08.399 --> 01:39:10.520 printings are even down to like one hundred bucks and stuff. 2019 01:39:10.600 --> 01:39:12.920 But yeah, there for a while, man, a lot of 2020 01:39:12.960 --> 01:39:15.279 that knowledge was really really hard to get your hands on. 2021 01:39:15.600 --> 01:39:17.600 Not much of it is anymore. Every now and again, 2022 01:39:17.640 --> 01:39:20.720 I'll come across a book like that, the book that 2023 01:39:20.880 --> 01:39:22.920 dud low me. He's I'm going to stack of books 2024 01:39:22.920 --> 01:39:24.600 over there that he's lowed me that Most of those 2025 01:39:24.680 --> 01:39:26.760 I can't find on the internet archive, which is kind 2026 01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:33.000 of cool. But you know, when I was doing they 2027 01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:36.039 first started busted out with chat GPT and all that shit. 2028 01:39:36.119 --> 01:39:39.800 I started like checking magazines and I would advertise them 2029 01:39:39.840 --> 01:39:41.680 that way to college students. It's like, this is not 2030 01:39:42.439 --> 01:39:45.199 archived on chat GPT, so in other words, by this 2031 01:39:46.279 --> 01:39:49.159 plagiarize it, your teacher won't be able to find out 2032 01:39:49.239 --> 01:39:54.800 you did it. But those those doors are slowly being shut. Now. 2033 01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:57.479 All this shit's getting archived. 2034 01:39:57.199 --> 01:40:05.680 Now, Jenny, anybody ahead that gay? No, No, was there 2035 01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:07.399 anything else that you would like to make. You know what, 2036 01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:10.000 why don't you if you don't mind, I was gonna 2037 01:40:10.039 --> 01:40:12.039 ask you before we wrapped it up, do you want 2038 01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:14.399 to give people an idea about this conference, like what 2039 01:40:14.479 --> 01:40:17.520 you're doing there and and what maybe you might be 2040 01:40:17.600 --> 01:40:19.079 I don't know if you already have an idea what 2041 01:40:19.159 --> 01:40:20.600 you're talking on, but maybe tease. 2042 01:40:20.359 --> 01:40:24.840 The people I'm gonna be covering. Uh, I'm gonna be. 2043 01:40:25.720 --> 01:40:28.640 My plan is there's research that I'm doing now with 2044 01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:31.920 that book that I showed you and stuff. I'm planning 2045 01:40:31.960 --> 01:40:36.199 on making a video and on that and then covering 2046 01:40:36.239 --> 01:40:40.199 it in more detail in the conference. And this is 2047 01:40:40.479 --> 01:40:43.399 this is a pretty this this this one wraps up 2048 01:40:43.439 --> 01:40:45.720 so many different goofy ship that I'm investing a lot 2049 01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:47.399 of time into it. I'm swinging for the fences on 2050 01:40:47.479 --> 01:40:49.880 because I think this story is interesting enough that I 2051 01:40:49.960 --> 01:40:52.479 want to I'm filling in all these little holes. But uh, 2052 01:40:54.039 --> 01:40:57.119 it's gonna be about some elogated school stuff you've never 2053 01:40:57.199 --> 01:40:59.840 heard before. It gets into Rockefellers and Lewis and Clark 2054 01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:04.000 and all kinds of goofy ships and free freemasonry, all 2055 01:41:04.600 --> 01:41:10.720 kinds of goofy shit. But the conference is the Quest 2056 01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:13.800 for Ancient Civilizations. It's going to be in Scottsdale, Arizona, 2057 01:41:13.960 --> 01:41:17.000 December fifth through seventh. If you can't make it, you 2058 01:41:17.199 --> 01:41:20.520 can buy streaming passes to watch the people's talk that'll 2059 01:41:20.560 --> 01:41:23.079 be there. But this would be aj from y Files, 2060 01:41:23.159 --> 01:41:30.039 Jimmy Corsetti, Gary Buckler from Nerdrotic, who else. We got 2061 01:41:30.119 --> 01:41:34.640 Mike from Wandering Wolf, Michael Button. There's a bunch of 2062 01:41:34.680 --> 01:41:39.960 people there, Megalithmania. Yeah, you have a bunch of people there. 2063 01:41:40.079 --> 01:41:43.560 It's definitely gonna be fun. And if you for those 2064 01:41:43.560 --> 01:41:46.840 of you who didn't catch me at the Cosmic Summit, 2065 01:41:47.119 --> 01:41:49.600 but you catch me at these kinds of events the 2066 01:41:49.720 --> 01:41:53.560 nights in between, man I go, I go, so show up, 2067 01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:54.399 be ready to party. 2068 01:41:54.560 --> 01:41:56.840 Yeah, he'll definitely be around. I have to say that thing. 2069 01:41:56.920 --> 01:41:59.319 I was always out and chilling with people, so we 2070 01:41:59.359 --> 01:42:01.840 will have a fun. Yeah, No, I had, I was, Yeah, 2071 01:42:01.840 --> 01:42:02.680 I had a blessed I was. 2072 01:42:03.439 --> 01:42:05.000 Oh I had. I had a great time. 2073 01:42:05.079 --> 01:42:05.279 It was. 2074 01:42:05.359 --> 01:42:07.800 It was a ton of fun. But yeah, I definitely 2075 01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:11.039 definitely want to definitely want to promote that December fifth 2076 01:42:11.079 --> 01:42:13.680 through seventh. There's links on my channel. If there's none here, 2077 01:42:13.720 --> 01:42:15.960 you go check out my latest videos. There'll be links 2078 01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:21.359 to it and uh quest for Ancient Civilizations in Scottsdale, Arizona. 2079 01:42:21.960 --> 01:42:26.159 Awesome. Yes, yeah, definitely people check it out if you can. Again, 2080 01:42:26.279 --> 01:42:27.760 thank you so much for coming on. 2081 01:42:27.920 --> 01:42:28.079 Dan. 2082 01:42:28.199 --> 01:42:30.439 Before before we wrap it up, if you don't mind, 2083 01:42:30.439 --> 01:42:32.479 I'll have everybody plug themselves and then you can remind 2084 01:42:32.520 --> 01:42:35.880 everybody where to find your stuff. So real quick, sour, 2085 01:42:36.159 --> 01:42:37.520 just let everybody know what's up. 2086 01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:42.239 Well, this was fun, This was informative as always, and 2087 01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:44.680 I always say it's good anytime we can get together 2088 01:42:44.760 --> 01:42:47.760 and exchange wisdom. I mean, I'm not much of a 2089 01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:50.039 history person, but I do have an interest in go 2090 01:42:50.159 --> 01:42:54.399 Bickley so and I feel like you're quite knowledgeable on that. 2091 01:42:54.680 --> 01:42:58.079 So I've learned a lot and I appreciate you sharing 2092 01:42:58.199 --> 01:42:59.880 some pieces of your puzzle with everyone. 2093 01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:02.560 So I'm Sarah. 2094 01:43:02.760 --> 01:43:05.600 You can find me at Sahara Cosmos on X and 2095 01:43:05.800 --> 01:43:08.960 you can check out our podcast Universe Unveiled on YouTube 2096 01:43:09.079 --> 01:43:11.039 or anywhere you get podcasts. 2097 01:43:11.399 --> 01:43:13.039 Awesome, and thank you so much for coming on. I 2098 01:43:13.079 --> 01:43:15.479 appreciate it. Hey, Tyrow, what. 2099 01:43:15.600 --> 01:43:15.960 Is going on? 2100 01:43:16.119 --> 01:43:22.359 Sir La appreciated? Nick, thank you, thank you. How's everybody 2101 01:43:22.439 --> 01:43:23.079 and you know what I'm saying. 2102 01:43:23.079 --> 01:43:27.239 I know everybody you know got a plethora knowledge out here, 2103 01:43:27.319 --> 01:43:28.960 so I know their minds are blown right now. 2104 01:43:28.960 --> 01:43:31.960 I know mine is. I took some notes and stuff 2105 01:43:32.079 --> 01:43:35.640 like that. I really appreciate it Dan Nick having me. 2106 01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:37.079 Everything that you can find on me is on my 2107 01:43:37.199 --> 01:43:40.960 website Rebirth Oftheword dot com, my book Journey through the 2108 01:43:41.039 --> 01:43:42.680 Origins of Histories on Amazon. 2109 01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:45.239 And thank you to everybody for letting me be here. 2110 01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:48.560 Of course, thank you, sir. I appreciate it and needing 2111 01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:49.560 then to go what is going on? 2112 01:43:49.680 --> 01:43:52.720 So that was awesome. Thank you so much for sharing 2113 01:43:52.760 --> 01:43:55.640 all your information and I learned a lot. I appreciate 2114 01:43:55.840 --> 01:43:58.920 everything and always great to talk with everyone. And I'm 2115 01:43:59.039 --> 01:44:02.039 super easy to find. I didn't always appreciate communication, so 2116 01:44:02.199 --> 01:44:04.800 don't hesitate to reach out Ethan Indigo Smith. 2117 01:44:06.039 --> 01:44:09.560 Soone, thank you mister Mark Mark. 2118 01:44:10.800 --> 01:44:14.199 Yes, thanks for having me on Nick and it was 2119 01:44:14.239 --> 01:44:17.920 a great conversation. Thanks for everything, Dan. If you want 2120 01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:19.880 to check out my stuff, you can check out my 2121 01:44:19.960 --> 01:44:22.760 link tree which is r M A r X and 2122 01:44:22.880 --> 01:44:26.439 that has my artwork my Patreon. I do a lot 2123 01:44:26.479 --> 01:44:29.359 of research and the Metal Mind Cast and you can 2124 01:44:29.479 --> 01:44:32.760 check out all the backlogs of those episodes and that's it. 2125 01:44:33.159 --> 01:44:37.079 Thanks, thank you, sir, and my man, Doc Brin what 2126 01:44:37.199 --> 01:44:39.199 is going on now? 2127 01:44:39.199 --> 01:44:40.359 I mean, I've enjoyed myself. 2128 01:44:40.680 --> 01:44:42.279 I was gonna make a little caddy joke and be 2129 01:44:42.319 --> 01:44:44.199 like I've been like Pink Floyd during this session. I've 2130 01:44:44.239 --> 01:44:46.800 been comfortably numb my whole left side of my face. Bro, 2131 01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:47.720 I could even feel it. 2132 01:44:49.760 --> 01:44:51.359 If it was feeling worse right now or not. 2133 01:44:51.840 --> 01:44:55.680 Yeah, I wouldn't have missed this freething dan apology stuff 2134 01:44:55.720 --> 01:44:57.880 for a while. Man, I was not going to miss 2135 01:44:58.199 --> 01:45:00.600 the opportunity to sit down and convert with you, and 2136 01:45:00.720 --> 01:45:04.319 you did disappoint I appreciate it, man. But yeah, my 2137 01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:08.039 show is Prometheus Lynn's podcast anywhere you can consume content, 2138 01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:11.319 go check that out. We're always having enlightening conversations each 2139 01:45:11.359 --> 01:45:14.119 and every week. And my book also just come out 2140 01:45:14.159 --> 01:45:17.319 this year at the epic of Esau, the Birthright and 2141 01:45:17.479 --> 01:45:20.640 seed whar we get into Bigfoot and the Bible. 2142 01:45:20.359 --> 01:45:22.520 And all kinds of how strange seness. So yeah, be 2143 01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:23.960 sure check that out. I appreciate it. 2144 01:45:25.079 --> 01:45:26.960 Listen, thank you so much for making it, my man, 2145 01:45:26.960 --> 01:45:29.560 I appreciate it. And Bennett, my man what's. 2146 01:45:29.479 --> 01:45:32.800 Up Dan, It's such a pleasure to talk to you. 2147 01:45:33.159 --> 01:45:39.840 Appreciate it. You can find me at broadcasting seeds dot com. 2148 01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:42.439 That's about it. 2149 01:45:44.399 --> 01:45:48.359 Thanks a loving and finally, Dan, thank you again so much. 2150 01:45:48.399 --> 01:45:50.960 I really really appreciated you coming on. You really have 2151 01:45:51.119 --> 01:45:53.000 like a ton of plethora of information in so many 2152 01:45:53.039 --> 01:45:56.479 different areas. It's very impressive and I really I appreciate 2153 01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:58.520 you even you know, I guess entertaining some of my 2154 01:45:58.600 --> 01:46:01.840 weirder questions and giving me this as you could. Thank you, sir. 2155 01:46:02.560 --> 01:46:04.880 Can you can you please let everybody know again like 2156 01:46:04.920 --> 01:46:06.920 where they can find all your stuff one more time? 2157 01:46:06.960 --> 01:46:09.560 Oh yeah, thank you Nick, and thanks everyone. This was 2158 01:46:09.720 --> 01:46:14.000 This was a great conversation, some really great questions. See, 2159 01:46:14.159 --> 01:46:16.920 you can find me as de dunking two d's like 2160 01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:20.399 my ex not debunking de dunking. Now you're all good. 2161 01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:22.159 You're not the first person to make that mistake. But 2162 01:46:22.640 --> 01:46:26.000 if you type in a D D usually all come 2163 01:46:26.119 --> 01:46:30.800 up fairly quick. I'm on X, I'm on Instagram, I'm 2164 01:46:31.039 --> 01:46:33.479 on YouTube, I used to be on TikTok. There's still 2165 01:46:33.479 --> 01:46:35.680 an accounter that every now and again, somebody sends me 2166 01:46:35.760 --> 01:46:37.520 something that I'll ever looked at it. It's my son, 2167 01:46:38.640 --> 01:46:43.079 but yeah, YouTube x or Instagram or the places defined 2168 01:46:43.199 --> 01:46:45.520 me or you can also find me at patreot or 2169 01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:49.239 you can find me at the Cosmic Summit, or it's Scottsdale, Arizona, 2170 01:46:49.319 --> 01:46:50.520 December fifth through seventh. 2171 01:46:51.560 --> 01:46:55.960 Awesome, Yes, and uh again, we all really appreciate it. 2172 01:46:56.079 --> 01:46:58.640 It was an amazing experience and thank you everybody in 2173 01:46:58.720 --> 01:47:01.039 the chat. That is what's up. Everybody was here pretty 2174 01:47:01.079 --> 01:47:02.680 much from the beginning to end. It looks like and 2175 01:47:02.840 --> 01:47:04.640 there's a lot of you's in there. You can of 2176 01:47:04.640 --> 01:47:06.520 appreciate you stopping by, and that's where we go live. 2177 01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:08.399 And there's a lot of awesome stuff added in there too, 2178 01:47:08.520 --> 01:47:11.239 So people checking the replay, I suggest to check out 2179 01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:13.000 the live chat. They always got some gems in there 2180 01:47:13.039 --> 01:47:15.680 as well. That is the end of another Recult Rejects 2181 01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:18.239 until the next one. Everybody be well later