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Speaker 1: You. I'm now listening to soft core history. Welcome back

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to soft core History. I'm your host for the weekdamage Ester.

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Joined is always by Rob Fox What up? And we

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are joined by the styling, profiling, limousine, ryding, jet setting, kiss, stealing, wheeling,

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and dealing son of a gun.

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Speaker 2: And I'm having a hard time keeping these fucking pterodactyls down.

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Speaker 1: Look at that huh, uncle laser?

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Speaker 3: How are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Boys?

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Speaker 4: Is that pterodacyl leather?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I know it's extinct in fucking forty seven.

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Speaker 4: I one reason, like a top three reason I have

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for cloning extinct animals is to extract their leather. Yeah,

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the boot their hides yeah yeah, oh yeah, I mean

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you get a cause like, you know, those ostrich boots

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and shit, they're kind of cool, but you got the

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bumps all over them. I want like a bird, the quills, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I want the bumps a parodactyl get like a dodo bird. Yeah.

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That's the only reason, is too.

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Speaker 1: Of how many boots you can make with a mammoth.

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Speaker 3: Oh, and you feed a village.

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Speaker 4: Whole fucking neolithic villages, We're just all their clothes, all

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their meat from one mammoth just a giant blanket. I

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feel like we predicted it's on the show before Laser,

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but I feel and I feel like you'll probably potentially

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partake in this one day. Eventually they'll clone a mammoth

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and Texas will be one of the few, if not

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the only states, because you know, there's a lot of

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like fucking exotic animals and shit here a lot of

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tiger king shit. I know tiger kings in Oklahoma, but

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like there's weird and if you drive down the highway

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you just see a fucking zebra.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yah, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Eventually you'll be able to hunt a mammoth on someone's

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ranch in Texas out of the helicopter's spears. No, it

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should be you gotta do it with spears.

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Speaker 3: You gotta do it. It's on horseback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. If you kill a mammoth with an ar, like.

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Speaker 1: You're bitch out of a helicopter, you can do spears.

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Speaker 4: Threw spears out of a helicopter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just barrel roll into a spear throat.

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Speaker 1: I'll be okay with that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeahah, or like a legalist type of kill where

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you just climb it and fucking arrow it in the head.

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Speaker 1: Going for xeroxes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't, but I I like, I want

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that to happen so bad. Like you're just on a

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ranch with Aaron Rodgers and you're doing his weird hippie shit,

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just slinging spears through a mammoth skull him.

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Speaker 1: That's Jake Paul h Aubrey Marcus.

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Speaker 4: That's my dream for the future of Texas's mammoth hunting

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on a ranch.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: That's when we truly know we're free.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when we're back.

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Speaker 4: And then you get the boots and probably a sick

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ass fur coat too.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, so Laser, thanks for coming in. I know

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you have no idea what the show is.

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Speaker 3: I don't, but I love history.

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Speaker 1: Well today we're gonna talk about something that's right up

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your alley.

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Speaker 3: All right, bet we're.

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Speaker 1: Talking about the early years of what we now know

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as professional wrestling.

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Speaker 2: Oh shit, Okay, it's not just like we're not just

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talking about states and fucking you know constitutions.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no shit, that's I mean, that's a perfect

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fucking Tian top you wore.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's me all the time, you

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tell him. Yeah, no, I had no idea what this was.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be great.

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Speaker 4: I what year does this start? Because we always joke

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on the show, they're like, the first like thirty years

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of professional football was just like literally homeless people, just

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like jumping off a train car.

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Speaker 1: And that's all this entire show is is the Carnie years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you mean, like, when did it really click?

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When did wrestling become the dude? When Stone Cold one

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King of the Ring and he goes John sixteen just says,

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you know, say your.

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Speaker 3: Prayer, bump your bump your Bible. But Austin says, I

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just whooped your ass. That's when wrestling started for me.

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Speaker 1: Now this is perfect because obviously me and Laser probably

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huge wrestling fans.

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Speaker 4: I'm a wrestling fan growing up.

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Speaker 1: I No, you weren't. Not in the same way we were.

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Speaker 4: No, certainly not.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be a professional wrestler until I was sixteen.

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That's kind of a major part of why I didn't

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get laid until I was eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Nice. I mean, me and my friends would go watch

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the poor kids who wanted to be professional wrestlers. Does

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that count.

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Speaker 1: I had a bunch of buddies dads that would like

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run local shows. Yeah, so we'd kind of hop in

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the ring entertain like fifteen people. Yeah, who were your

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parents' friends?

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Speaker 3: There?

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Speaker 1: Weren't my parents' friends. Okay, they were my friend's parents. Okay, Yeah,

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he's still even Briarcliffe was a different part of town.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 3: So did you ever wrestle at all?

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Speaker 1: Oh dude, I used to wrestle all.

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Speaker 2: The time, man, Yeah, like like you know, like in

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a faction or a ring, because I did some in college

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station about two years ago.

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Speaker 3: So all trained and do all that. But I didn't

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know this. I don't know if you know this. I

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didn't know this. Uh. The referee, I thought forever was

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just a pawn, just part of the script.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: He's the ring master.

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Speaker 2: Because if you get concussed, he makes sure he gets

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into your next spot and helps you finish the match.

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Speaker 4: He's like almost the director.

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Speaker 3: He's yeah, he's the guy.

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Speaker 1: And that happens a lot.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, damn dude.

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Speaker 2: E you don't take a bump correctly, you don't tuck

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your chin, you hit your fucking head instant.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, people are getting squared up on the back

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of the head with the fucking steel chair. Yeah, that's

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crazy like that I've taken, like just to show the

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difference here, like I've had like if you've played soccer

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and you don't head the ball in the right spot,

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like if you take it off like right here or

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something like that, you're just like confused for like ten minutes,

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like you're just walking around like you don't know what

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the fuck's going on.

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Speaker 1: And I obviously grew up in Philadelphia, home of ECW.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I just so back from there. Great, I love

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Philly so much.

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Speaker 1: Extreme Championship Wrestling. Yeah, so we uh we went above

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and beyond. You know, we're hitting each other with light tubes.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Bob Wire thumb tacks was a big one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, get the blood out.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm alive still.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm wondering. I'm wondering. Maybe this is how you

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didn't get into the Naval Academy, like if you hadn't

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backyard wrestled.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a midshipman. Obviously. Everybody starts some trampoline when

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you're like, yeah, you do shows.

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Speaker 2: When they start on trampoline and they start like with

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their dad rough housing, I'm throwing them in the fucking

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the dry wall in the bed.

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Speaker 1: More like beating whole cogan wrestling buddy. Yeah, yeah, with

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the little dolls and ship Yeah, dude, you throw those around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I for goddamn I forgot about that.

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Speaker 1: Because your parents teach you not to hit your sister.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not good. They fall weird.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you start wrestling with it. A couple of years later,

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cut a hole in the crotch.

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Speaker 1: You can't sleep with it.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually becomes a different situation to this day.

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Speaker 1: I still sleep with my whole cogin. Uh.

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Speaker 3: The Randy Savage one. Randy Savage was my guy. But no.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, the sport of wrestling dates back to the Greeks

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and Romans, and a Baker's dozen of US presidents have

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grappled in the past, including Washington, Teddy Taft, and of course,

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Wrestling Hall of famers Abraham Lincoln and Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump is a wrestling hall wait, but for his

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being in the w w F Yeah, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 1: He is the only commander in chief to ever be

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hit with the stone Colt Stunner.

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Speaker 4: Boy, for now.

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Speaker 1: There has been.

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Speaker 3: It can be a little history fact.

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Speaker 2: It can be Abraham Lincoln went up with his cabinet

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to that little place in the woods before the plocumation

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of decoration, before he ended slavery.

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Speaker 3: They went up there and wrestled for twelve weeks, and

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then he.

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Speaker 2: Came back and for freeing slaves, and then he got

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shot in the back of the head. So a couple

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of you know, boys wrestling around like, hey, I don't

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think we should have slaves anymore.

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Speaker 4: And then a couple others being like, no, I'm gonna

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I will wrestle you for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, he won the match.

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Speaker 4: Yea, yeah, yeah, if that's how you got to get

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Speaker 1: They're greasing up too, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: What do you think singlets look like in the fucking

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eighteen sixties?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Have you ever seen the painting of Lincoln wrestling? Uh,

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it's him. It's he's shirtless basically, and I think, like

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much like they do with Christ, like the painter might

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have done him a few favors being cut. He was

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pretty cut. Yeah, but he was just there like it

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was almost it was like half wrestling, half like he

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looked like he was bare knuckle boxing almost, you know

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what I mean.

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Speaker 3: What he's like six' eight, too, right he was like

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Speaker 4: Big, yeah he was a big year, like oh, yeah

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good read was.

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Speaker 3: Incredible, yeah there you.

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Speaker 4: Go, yeah it looked you know what it looked. Like

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you know. What his voice though incredibly. High have you

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seen the Movie? Lincoln they have recordings of? Him, no, no, no

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there's NO i don't think there's any recordings of.

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Speaker 3: Him how well we know his voice is.

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Speaker 4: Squeaky people wrote down what his voice sounded, like essentially, like,

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oh he's got a high pitch. Voice have you SEEN

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yeah that's pretty dead on according to. Historians, yeah just

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kind OF i need to free the. Slaves that's WHY

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i thought they could. Rebell, ye that's Why South carolina was, like,

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oh we could take this.

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Speaker 1: Bitch the entertainment element outside the sport really got going

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In france in eighteen. Thirty but we're not talking about The.

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French we're talking about the good OLD us OF a

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and that started roughly around The Civil war thanks to

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an influx Of, Irish french And german immigrants who brought

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over the long hair style or commercial wrestling From, europe

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which was really a vessel to sell more booz at

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beer gardens need.

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Speaker 4: Entertainment, yeah it can't always be a, band you know

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WHAT i. Mean you can't all always be three. Fiddles.

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Speaker 1: Dude imagine if you went out On Sixth street right

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now and there was just a fucking wrestling show going.

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Speaker 4: On that's the first. BAR i would go, Into no holds,

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bar a hardcoret match in the.

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Speaker 3: Street you know What i'm.

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Speaker 1: Saying that falls count, anywhere falls count. Anywhere, yeah, Dude

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i'd be hyped to go to that, bar like why

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do we? NEED i would get there. EARLY i would

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be near the.

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Speaker 4: Front.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it initially caught on In vermont in THE, us

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and The Irish union regiments from The Green Mountain state

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passed on the hobby to their fellow soldiers to help

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pass the time between. Battles wrestling has always been for the.

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Speaker 3: Troops for the, Boys, yeah the.

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Speaker 1: Boys long before The intercontinental And european belts, existed, though

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companies had competitions to declare their champions and they would

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go on to clash with other winners to see who

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was the king of The yankee.

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Speaker 5: Ring so they'd be different competing faction to be a regional. Circuit,

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okay Y flair would go you, know uh, yeah that

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that that was what the, yeah, yeah, no that was

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they would string together like this. Fact but that that's

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that because because this mc man was the first one

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to go into territories and be, like, yo we're taking

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all your talent and we're gonna morphit all.

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Speaker 3: Together it was the first one to make it make it.

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Speaker 1: Universal, now this was during The Civil war where, yeah,

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yeah my. Bad literally Between gettysburg and Like shiloh or something, like, oh,

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DUDE i gotta go wrestle this dude from fucking From Sea.

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Speaker 2: Company yeah, yeah, TRACKING i mean there's a fucking coach

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all the way up to go.

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Speaker 1: Wrestle, unfortunately there are no detailed records on these, matches

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and we don't know who exactly took the. Crown but

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after the, war soldiers took these skills on the road

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to compete at county fairs and touring.

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Speaker 2: Carnivals do you think at every point in time during

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The Civil war there were like The union in the

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and The southerners The confederates were, like instead of doing

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this battle At, gettysburg you get your best, wrestler you

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oil them.

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Speaker 1: Up you get your.

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Speaker 3: Champions you guys just we'll go for who can pinho.

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Speaker 4: It's A troy situation that did happen once in the

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middle of a, battle so it's, yes it. Did so

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what happened was essentially The union And confederates in SOME

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i don't even remember what battle. Was it could have

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been literally any of there's there thousands of battles In Civil, war,

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right we, know like The Big eight or. Whatever but

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so there was just in the middle of a firefight

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and they were getting close to each other and it

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got hand to. Hand so they'd already been shooting into each,

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other killing each other where it had gotten kind of

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like hand to, hand and these two dudes were just

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like throwing started like throwing down in the middle of.

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It their muskets weren't, loaded and they BOTH i guess

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disarmed each other and they started just like throwing hands

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like full on fist, fight and everyone else around like

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notice that this like, knockdown drag out fist fight was

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going On confederate And. Union everyone stopped fighting and just

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watch these two beat the shit out of each.

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Speaker 1: Other that's.

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Speaker 4: INCREDIBLE i don't know if it was like the two

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best fighters in the. Unit they're, like, oh That's johnson

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and another guy is, like oh, god, damn that's that's Mcgilla.

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Cuddy we got to this, ship but they literally the

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battle stopped until the officer finally got. There we're, like

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shoot each. Other what are you? Doing brought the boys?

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Speaker 1: Together, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's.

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Speaker 2: Original somebody you just need a good dance part of they're

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just beating the fun Each i'm gonna watch. That.

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Speaker 1: Yeah this is when they would really start to develop, characters, backstories,

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costumes and the whole predetermined aspect of pro. Wrestling, obviously

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this attracted just the highest class of spectators to roll,

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through and by THAT i mean the, poorest dumbest. Motherfuckers,

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yeah that were attracted by the open challenge element that

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most carnies would. Offer oh so you.

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Speaker 4: Could andrew tate it where you just, Like i'll fight.

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Anyone just line up And i'll fight you one by.

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One that's what they would. Do town Of. Town, yeah that's.

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Speaker 1: Crazy if you could last fifteen minutes in the ring

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with the likes of The french cyclone Or colossus h

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you would take home at life changing twenty five dollars

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uh fit.

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Speaker 4: Money back, then fifteen minutes a lot of, time and

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so they're just.

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Speaker 3: Wrestling they're not fist.

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Speaker 2: Fighting you just are they trying to pin each, other

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trying to beat the fuck out of each.

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Speaker 3: Other it's gotta be a difference, there.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of.

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Speaker 4: Both it was just a.

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Speaker 1: Shoot it was a.

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Speaker 4: Shoot it was a.

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Speaker 1: Shoot it was a. Shoot but it might've been a work.

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Too very rarely were the pros ever in danger of.

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Losing but in Some midwestern farm boy whose bloodline would

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ultimately produce generations of All american big ten linemen would come, through.

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Speaker 3: Big, big hey baling, inbred some bitch just fucking.

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Speaker 1: Farmstrong The carney promoters had a few tricks up their,

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sleeves made them.

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Speaker 3: With a pocket. Sand it's a pocket sand on.

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Speaker 1: There almost rings typically had a curtain towards the back

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of one side where promoters would swing baseball backs that

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take out the challengers' legs or whack them over the

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head with two by four whenever they can.

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Speaker 4: Salt what that that law doesn't exist at this, time

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there's No there's certain places WHERE i feel like even you,

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know like now you'd be like if someone get if

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someone like goes into a bad neighborhood and they get

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like fucked. Up you, know you feel bad for, them

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but you're, like what are you doing walking around that

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in the middle of The yeah he ask for, This, yeah, yeaheah, yeahah,

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yeah you get in that. Ring there's no complaints to

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be made at that. Point, yeah but what do you

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think the Traveling carnies we're gonna do to? You you

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thought you're gonna get a fair fight from the guys

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stealing money from children who think they're gonna win a,

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game selling snake oil and.

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Speaker 1: Such they eventually got smart enough to take out all

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risks by putting on total, works where the audience members

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they pulled were actually in on the job and part

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of the traveling.

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Speaker 4: Troops so, yeah, yeah did the other town people not?

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Know they're, like, hey that guy doesn't live. Here there's

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a town of four hundred. PEOPLE i don't know that.

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Speaker 3: Guy, yeah what were you?

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Speaker 1: Doing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah who's this? Guy like what he literally doesn't live?

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Here oh, no you just pay him? Off, yeah, okay,

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okay so you.

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Speaker 3: Just to be a crash, dummy just get the shit kicked.

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Speaker 1: Down yeah, Okay, hey you want to make eight dollars

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instead of losing twenty five. Dollars, yeah all, right we'll

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give you a. Dollar, yeah to let us just beat

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The christ out of. You then you're making money on like,

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BOOZE i mean admission.

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Speaker 3: TICKETS i bet they're betting on.

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Speaker 1: It, YEAH i mean they got the huge proponent of it.

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Too it's.

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Speaker 4: Betting that feels like a lot of innocent people lost. Money, yes, yeah,

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Yes like that just looks like every gambling commercial, today

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like in THE nba finals or like you'll like the

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third quarter will start and they'll be, like this is

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what the.

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Speaker 3: Line was at the.

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Speaker 4: Start now you can go to the. Line it's just,

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like give me your, money you fucking.

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Speaker 1: Morons wrestling performers were arranged in a pyramid hierarchy of

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fame and money based on strictly athletic. Talent the lowest,

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were of, course, journeymen young performers with promise and some,

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skill but relied heavily on showmanship to gain. Fans the

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actual wrestlers were called shooters because of their ability to

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shoot or fight real matches, competitively and they were more

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successful but less common and at the, top where the

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elites were the, hookers name for their ability to use

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arcane wrestling hooks to inflict damage and serious injury on the.

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Competition what does that?

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Speaker 4: Mean forgive, Me i'm the only non combat sport fan.

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Speaker 1: Here kind of getting under your, shoulder cooking ooka.

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Speaker 4: In and just do whatever you. Want, okay did they

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have moves?

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Speaker 1: Yet like?

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Speaker 4: Signature?

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Speaker 3: Yeah when is the souplex and the power bomb and

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everything come into? Term like terminology?

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Speaker 4: Was we'll get to.

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Speaker 1: That oh. Shit this is also the time when much

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of pro wrestling slang and lingo, developed like k, fab

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which meant keeping the worked aspect of the business a

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secret at all. Times so if you're in the public,

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eye you don't break. Character it's real to, me damn.

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Speaker 4: It so if you're just trying to get a sandwich

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and someone's, like, oh You're Randy, savage you have to

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be like, god damn. It just like hit yourself in

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the throat. Once i'm, like, hey, brother, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Yeah LIKE i really just wanted to have. Lunchman, Fuck

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like you're. Rivals you couldn't hang out with, them, okay no,

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friends no, Friends, like no one could see you be.

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Speaker 1: Friends. Yeah if you're The, undertaker you just got to

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act like a dead.

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Speaker 4: Man caine is just like throws the mask. On, really,

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well he can't be you know?

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Speaker 1: Mayor?

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Speaker 4: Right, yeah so for, Years, YEAH i had no. IDEA

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i thought there was.

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Speaker 1: Two canes, too, right REALLY i think. So, no like

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the current mayor In tennessee Of, knoxville he was the

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second CAN i thought there was A kane before. Him.

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Speaker 4: NO i thought he was Always undertaker's.

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Speaker 3: Brother, yeah he's Always undertaker's.

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Speaker 4: Brother thought it was always his biological brother from beginning to.

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Speaker 1: End that he lived on fire and buried. Alive. Yeah,

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yeah the brothers. Fight, see that is a k fate.

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Speaker 4: Brothers.

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Speaker 1: Fight that's.

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Speaker 2: Real i'm pretty sure that's loosely based or what was

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loosely based for The hound and The mountain On game

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Of thrones was the higher anarchy of The undertaker And.

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Speaker 3: KANES i think.

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Speaker 1: SO i Think martin steals.

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Speaker 6: Everything, yeah, yeah that tracks he wrote it during that.

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Time it was it was the Attitude, yeah he wrote

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it during the fucking attitude. Era and by the, way

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kind of similar looking like the hound looks like can

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you put a mask on the?

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Speaker 4: Hound they're both giant That's. Kane.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they really gave a bad impression of The. Undertaker,

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huh what The.

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Speaker 4: Mountain yeah he, yeah raped a, lot. Certainly but but.

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Speaker 2: When he puts his fingers in Od boy's, Eyeball oh my,

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god that was that was the MOST i Was.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about The american badass.

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Speaker 4: THOUGH i was, LIKE i was, like, truly that was

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the only Time i've ever watched. Anything i've been visibly.

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Speaker 1: SHAKEN i.

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Speaker 4: WAS i, was, YEAH i was, like what you, know

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what you? Know what saved me is at that same.

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Speaker 1: Night, UH i felt the same way when he Tombstones linda.

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McMahon oh, YEAH i forgot about.

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Speaker 4: That that's gotta be the Only secretary Of education that

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will ever be.

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Speaker 1: Tombstoned really a lot of first in wrestling with this. Administration, yeah, yeah.

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YEAH a veteran by the name Of james harrim McLaughlin

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was the first major star In american wrestling when he

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won the title Of color And Elbow champion in eighteen sixty.

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Seven In march eighteen, seventy a tournament was held and

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the winner was awarded the first belt with a gold,

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buckle much like the titles we know and love today

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with like a rodeo. Belt. Yeah at the. Time in

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the final, match McLaughlin was well ahead Against Barney, smith

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but the referee declined to end the, match so McLaughlin

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Slam smith off the stage onto his, head knocking him

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out cold and leading to his death soon.

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Speaker 3: After oh, shit you know that'll.

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Speaker 2: Happen they're killing for belts back in the eighteen, hundreds.

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Speaker 4: Huh that's like every sport, Though like dudes were taking

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baseballs to the dome and it's just, like well it's eighteen,

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eighty so he's, dead you know WHAT i, Mean like

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there's no medicine for this or like football or. Helmets, yeah, yeah,

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yeah yeah. Yeah. FOOTBALL i mean people were just the,

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best you, know like the history of, football, right How

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Teddy rose had it intervening and. Shit the funniest part about, that,

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00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,720
though is it was All it wasn't like professional box car.

468
00:18:57,799 --> 00:19:01,839
Hobos it was Like princeton, Kids, yeah settling scores and

469
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,119
murdering each other on the. Field what better, WAY i.

470
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,759
Speaker 1: KNOW i, mean The university Of florida had to flee

471
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,319
the country Of cuba really.

472
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,920
Speaker 4: For physical, Reasons like they were like they're going to

473
00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:15,680
murder us and the referees are not on our.

474
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:16,759
Speaker 1: Side Jesus.

475
00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,519
Speaker 4: Christ but, YEAH i feel like any sport before nineteen.

476
00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:22,559
Twenty it was just like you might. Die this is

477
00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:23,160
a blue collar.

478
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,039
Speaker 1: Occupation touched on it in The Patreon taykab beat a

479
00:19:26,079 --> 00:19:26,839
man up with no.

480
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,720
Speaker 4: Arms the man had no. Arms Ty cob used his

481
00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:32,480
arms to beat up the armless man.

482
00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:37,400
Speaker 1: Because he was talking. Shit. Yeah despite remaining inactive for

483
00:19:37,519 --> 00:19:40,720
nearly four years after, that he was generally considered the reigning.

484
00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:44,079
Champion his next match came In february of eighteen seventy,

485
00:19:44,079 --> 00:19:46,680
five with the decisive win Over Mike, whalen in which

486
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,160
he collected twenty five hundred dollars for the match itself

487
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:54,279
and another fifteen thousand by betting on himself believing in. Himself,

488
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:55,720
yes that's.

489
00:19:55,799 --> 00:19:56,160
Speaker 3: Crazy.

490
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,920
Speaker 1: Yes despite most of this being a, work a major

491
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,640
appeal of the this competition was. Gambling so, yeah it

492
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,880
seems It's, yeah it's oldest old.

493
00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:07,319
Speaker 4: Time they're just it's just people in The. States do

494
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:08,839
they how do they even get a? PIECE i feel

495
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,680
like it's just people next to each, Other Like i'll give,

496
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:11,559
IT i got twenty one.

497
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 3: Old now they have a book runner in the, crowd

498
00:20:13,759 --> 00:20:16,039
pro taking, Taking like.

499
00:20:17,759 --> 00:20:19,559
Speaker 4: If you want to get in, there it's Like Churchill

500
00:20:19,559 --> 00:20:21,039
downs or something like you got to go to the

501
00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:22,279
booth to place your.

502
00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:26,599
Speaker 1: Bets McLaughlan fought several times in eighteen seventy, six killing

503
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,279
another man In Dutch hogan and paralyzing another In Charles Mere's.

504
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,839
Speaker 2: Price when did it become like, organized like where they were, like, hey,

505
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,359
man you can't kill this fucking.

506
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,799
Speaker 4: Guy there's no rules back then like it just like

507
00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:41,519
it's literally no holds barback, yeah, yeah, yeah.

508
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,599
Speaker 1: Serious well it got to the point that McLachlan publicly

509
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,960
declared his intentions to restrict his future fights to color

510
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,599
and elbow rules, exclusively rather than the anything ghost style

511
00:20:51,599 --> 00:20:52,880
that led to those in ring.

512
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,759
Speaker 2: Deaths because at what point are you looking across from man, knowing,

513
00:20:56,759 --> 00:20:59,279
hey we're doing a. Work, yeah we're, gonna you, know

514
00:20:59,319 --> 00:21:01,160
do smooths, here and then you're just, like you know,

515
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,079
what fuck, This i'm gonna break this dude's jaw with a,

516
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,279
Sledgehamber like when does it?

517
00:21:04,319 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 4: Come when is it just?

518
00:21:05,759 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: Bow when they stopped listening to, you we agreed to.

519
00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:11,640
Speaker 4: This yeah he won a wrong, move he pulls an

520
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,359
extra move that's not in the, script pocket saying yeah,

521
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,200
pocket sayan your spinal cords?

522
00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 1: Done or say he drops you like, wrong or the

523
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,680
crowd cheers for him a little too.

524
00:21:20,759 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 3: LOUD i feel like it was very Wild west back.

525
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: Then Incredibly. Yeah. Yeah the man often referred to as

526
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,640
the father Of american pro wrestling Was William. Muldoon Where

527
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,519
maclachlin was still very much blended together with legitimate competition and,

528
00:21:36,599 --> 00:21:41,759
Showmanship muldoon rehearsed all of his. Bouts he was also

529
00:21:41,799 --> 00:21:45,079
a former, soldier An american volunteer in The Franco Prussian,

530
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,799
war and A New york cop who ultimately gave up

531
00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:51,119
law enforcement to join a traveling athletic troop to put

532
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:51,680
on wrestling.

533
00:21:51,759 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 4: Shows why do you volunteer for The Franco Prussian?

534
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,839
Speaker 1: War just wanted to get some of all the. Things

535
00:21:56,839 --> 00:21:58,400
it wasn't old enough for The American Civil.

536
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,319
Speaker 4: War, oh and he felt. Bad he's just a lot

537
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,359
of dudes walking around with one, leg and he's like

538
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,319
that seems. SWEET i would need.

539
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,039
Speaker 1: This, yeah his matches.

540
00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 3: Feel like everybody was bored back then, though.

541
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 4: Too oh, Yeah LIKE i mean like what we did

542
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:10,680
like just.

543
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 3: You, know just bailing hay and ship out in the

544
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,559
form and it's LIKE i can go kill some. PEOPLE

545
00:22:14,559 --> 00:22:15,160
i MEAN i feel like, that.

546
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 4: Dude we've done a ton of episodes and like entertainment

547
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,799
from the eighteen hundreds and the. Like the number one

548
00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:23,960
takeaway all the time is, like, man people didn't have fucking.

549
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,359
Anything and two things with that too is so one

550
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,720
by the, way like novels at this time were not

551
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,119
really you're if you were dude and you read, novels you're. Gay,

552
00:22:34,519 --> 00:22:36,720
yeah well you're still, gay yeah, yeah, True well well

553
00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:38,799
back to that there was, yeah there was a period

554
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,519
of like peak male literature and now it's back to

555
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,640
your gay thy. Yeah but so like novels were only for,

556
00:22:44,759 --> 00:22:48,240
chicks so dudes had like no, entertainment and so they

557
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,759
would go do and watch. Anything the best example we

558
00:22:50,839 --> 00:22:54,440
ever had was they're you, know like they're, traveling traveling

559
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,240
circus and circuses and show all the, time and there

560
00:22:57,279 --> 00:23:00,960
were elephants in these circuses and they would obviously obviously

561
00:23:01,279 --> 00:23:03,200
torture the fuck out of these elephants to get them

562
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,200
to behave because they. Didn't they were just, like, yeah

563
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,519
to get an animal, behave you, torture beat the fuck

564
00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:10,359
out of put your. Cigarettes yeah, yeah one day this

565
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,400
is this one elephant had misbehaved, too, much and they're,

566
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,480
like we gotta teach it a real. Lesson and they were,

567
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,000
like anyone who wants to come out and watch us

568
00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:19,599
teach this elephant a? Lesson come on. Out they're just

569
00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:21,440
in some Town, illinois, like, yeah come on, out you

570
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,000
can see. It it's, fine it'll be. Fun you have A. Tv,

571
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,680
no it hasn't been a. Minute let's go. Watch let's

572
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,039
go watch. This so the whole town comes out and

573
00:23:28,079 --> 00:23:30,799
they tie each of the elephant's legs, individually they chain

574
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,200
it to a tree trunk in the, forest and then

575
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,279
they just start a bonfire under the elephant's tummy while

576
00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:37,839
the whole town. Watches just lit it on.

577
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: Fire just a, Roast, yeah a, roast.

578
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 4: Just an elephant, roast kill, it need. It they just

579
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,559
just give it a bonfire until it burned the. Belly,

580
00:23:44,759 --> 00:23:47,839
yeah until. Shit but you know it solved all that.

581
00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:51,559
Speaker 3: Television, yeah, yeah you.

582
00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:53,039
Speaker 4: Don't need to watch An yeah you don't even watch

583
00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:53,880
an animal get lit on.

584
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 3: Fire we're soft, now.

585
00:23:58,759 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: But we're able to accomplish such great. Things people are always, like,

586
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,440
oh how do they build the? Pyramids oh they had nothing?

587
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,279
Speaker 3: Else aliens, aliens not the.

588
00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:09,039
Speaker 4: Aliens that's my that's my answer for, Everything, like how

589
00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:10,359
do they do? That, well they did anything else to?

590
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 3: Do there's no, hobbies just move.

591
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,799
Speaker 4: It, yeah, yeah you need something to. Do and also you,

592
00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:20,000
know just what are you going to say no to a?

593
00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 3: King, yeah they'll burn your belly.

594
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,759
Speaker 4: And everyone will watch because they don't have anything else to.

595
00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: Do his matches on these tours were always around fifteen,

596
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,759
minutes and it was scripted that he always. Won of,

597
00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:38,920
Course bill would also regularly send employees into the towns

598
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,720
ahead of time to hype up becoming, matches and this

599
00:24:41,839 --> 00:24:43,880
is kind of the earliest example of what would become

600
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,799
known as modern professional wrestling. Promotion so they.

601
00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: Just send a marketer like to the next town over

602
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,440
to be, like there's a big fight In johnsonville to

603
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:59,599
not Big buck mckillahan is. Fighting you're never, lost and everyone's, like.

604
00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:00,799
Speaker 1: Well six thousand.

605
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: Bouts, yeah They Bill, Goldberg, yeah They bill Bo They Bill.

606
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 4: Goldberg we don't Like Bill goldberg on this.

607
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: PODCAST i Love, goldberg but he did flag.

608
00:25:09,079 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 4: Us he flagg yaw uh yeah we were at. That

609
00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:14,200
were you were you at? That we were at one

610
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,279
of the demolition demolition shooting and he was getting interviewed

611
00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:21,000
On Drinking. Bros and he had brought His Desert eagle

612
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,799
to the. Table it has a hole the size of

613
00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:27,200
my fucking mouth and its barrel and he was just.

614
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,759
Like they were, like, oh is that your egle and

615
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:31,039
he was just it was, loaded and he was, like oh,

616
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,759
yeah check. Out And i'm sitting off to the side

617
00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:36,200
and the cameras behind the. Camera he was just pointing

618
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,400
it back and forth to the both of, us not

619
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,160
really just showing it. Off AND i was, like get.

620
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 3: This the fuck who brings a loaded gun to a?

621
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:47,039
Speaker 4: Podcast, well we were at the gun. RANGE i, MEAN i,

622
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,519
agree damn, DUDE i. Agree just laid it on the

623
00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:50,599
table and then was.

624
00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:52,599
Speaker 3: Like, yeah this was my desert look at.

625
00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 4: It and me And dan were, like god fucking damn, it.

626
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: Dude and he had a couple of beers in. Them. Yeah.

627
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:06,000
Okay So goldberg h love. Him we'll never forget. Him

628
00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:08,519
Versus lesslard at Wrestle. Mania oh, god yeah we should,

629
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:09,000
though we.

630
00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:09,319
Speaker 3: Should.

631
00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:12,599
Speaker 1: Man that's an example of when you didn't want to

632
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,960
kind of cave to the other, guy they would have

633
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:15,319
killed each.

634
00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:17,079
Speaker 2: Other in the Eight, WELL i heard some, too like

635
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,839
With brock lesser And undertaker like he just he he

636
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,440
knocked him out when he fucking suplexed him or f

637
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,359
five to him on that uh. Uh he was during

638
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,279
the Wrestleman it was like he didn't want to, lose

639
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,000
but he just.

640
00:26:28,039 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: Knocked him out and he had to.

641
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: Lose.

642
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah SO.

643
00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:33,319
Speaker 1: I mean, wait, Wait undertaker lost his only match At

644
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:34,599
wrestlemanian because he got knocked.

645
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,599
Speaker 3: Out, yeah that's What Paul. Hayman that wasn't. Scripted that's

646
00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:38,279
What Paul hayman.

647
00:26:38,319 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 2: Said BUT i saw an interview With Paul hayman and he, goes,

648
00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:42,920
yeah it was not. Designed he was supposed to finish,

649
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,960
that he was not.

650
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: Gonna put him.

651
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,599
Speaker 3: Over, yeah And lesard knocked him.

652
00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: Out think of all the people that lost money on the. Undertake,

653
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,000
yeah you bet on you.

654
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,799
Speaker 3: Can't you can't bet on he can.

655
00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:55,559
Speaker 4: You can you. Can't, now certainly you can bet on.

656
00:26:55,599 --> 00:26:56,960
It so if you want to make a lot of

657
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,119
money and just make friends with a writer in the W, we, SHIT.

658
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,519
Speaker 1: I think they put limits on. It but, yeah.

659
00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:06,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, lesner by the, way is had the greatest part

660
00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:08,799
of The vince, McMahon did you hear About Lesner's vince

661
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,599
McMahon his involvement in The vince mcmn's sexual assaults all the.

662
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,119
Text so he there's that chick who was suing him

663
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,920
and like she was like getting passed around by all

664
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,480
the wrestlers or. Whatever, Yeah so they Signed lesner and McMahon's, like,

665
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:23,920
YEAH i got this. Chick she'll like fuck you any

666
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,000
time and. All he's, married by the, Way, lesnar but.

667
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,079
Speaker 1: You can like poop on, her, yeah poop. Her of,

668
00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:28,720
course he's married To.

669
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:31,799
Speaker 4: Sable, Yeah and So lesner texts her and is, like

670
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,000
send me a video of you peen like pissing the

671
00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:38,759
toilet and film it and send it to. Me and

672
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:42,480
so she, does and she sends it to, him And

673
00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:45,200
lesner just types, back, bitch.

674
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,160
Speaker 1: No other, words just.

675
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 3: Bitch that's.

676
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,079
Speaker 4: Awesome that's ALL i could think of WHEN i look

677
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,559
At Brock lesner or his daughter who is a national

678
00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:58,680
champion shot put. Her oh.

679
00:27:59,519 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah muldoom was never defeated for his championship. Belt he

680
00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:07,799
wrestled in the final match or his final match in

681
00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:12,720
eighteen ninety Defeated Evan lewis And. Philadelphia he symbolically passed

682
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:18,640
on his title to his Protege Ernest Robert muldoune would

683
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,039
make his final appearance as a wrestler in the charity

684
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:24,440
exhibition match Against robert In Madison Square garden in eighteen ninety.

685
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 4: Four how old Is Madison Square garden old as? HELL i?

686
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:30,279
Speaker 1: Know is that all eighteen?

687
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:30,839
Speaker 3: Nineties?

688
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:33,039
Speaker 4: Yeah when was the walking? COMPETITION i thought that was

689
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:34,359
in the like twenties or something like.

690
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,799
Speaker 1: That, no that was like eighteen, nineties early nineteen. Hundred Jesus,

691
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,880
christ thing's been around?

692
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 4: For is that our oldest? Arena it has to, Be

693
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:42,920
it has to.

694
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: Be during the late nineteenth century early twentieth, century wrestling

695
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,000
was dominated By Martin Farmer burns and his Student Frank.

696
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:57,519
Gotch gotch was regarded as untouchable at his peak and

697
00:28:57,559 --> 00:29:01,240
became the first who actually claimed the world disputed heavyweight

698
00:29:01,319 --> 00:29:05,160
championship by defeating all contenders In North america And. Europe

699
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,799
and a guy we covered on Our Patreon George hackenschmidt Hacken.

700
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,039
Speaker 4: Schmidt oh, wait so they Were it was that Same

701
00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:16,039
they were doing the same. Thing m hm. OKAY i

702
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:17,319
was wondering where they fit into.

703
00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: This, yeah Hacken schmidt uh obviously the creator of the

704
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:22,960
bench press. TOO i don't great guy and the hack.

705
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:25,039
Speaker 3: SQUAD i knew it was a hack. SQUAT i didn't

706
00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:25,759
know he was a bench press.

707
00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: Though. Yeah they had two matches nineteen oh eight and

708
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,799
then nineteen, eleven and it's seen as two of the

709
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:35,960
most significant matches in history because the nineteen eleven rematch

710
00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:39,599
had a crowd of thirty thousand people At Kamiski park

711
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,400
In chicago and had the at the time the biggest

712
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,680
gate of eighty seven thousand.

713
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,279
Speaker 3: Dollars holy.

714
00:29:46,359 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: Shit but this is also a time when the public

715
00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:55,000
starts to, realize, oh, hey it's fake as, hell this is.

716
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 3: Fixed oh that's WHEN i started kind of, questioning because up.

717
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,599
Speaker 1: Until this point you could just you could, lie and

718
00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:02,599
people are, like, oh, dude that was a it was

719
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:02,839
a great.

720
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 4: Fun people are getting wise to. It it's the twentieth. Century,

721
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,559
yeah they're not falling for that eighteen hundred shit. Anymore,

722
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,079
also really the problem is is, that well it was.

723
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: Prohibition during that air, too and everybody won't drunk no.

724
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,759
Speaker 4: More, yeah they're, sober so they they're, yeah they're catching.

725
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:16,640
Things they where it. Is the other, problem, too is

726
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,200
and this is why it lasted for so long as

727
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,559
no one suspected. It you have to someone has to

728
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:27,119
get paralyzed every couple of, years like legitimately Pari.

729
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:29,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah the deaths actually helped to the.

730
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:32,079
Speaker 6: Storyline ye, yeah well it makes it, real right if

731
00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:35,880
you don't sacrifice, someone then people will stop.

732
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,079
Speaker 4: Believing you'd be, like, oh you say it's fake or.

733
00:30:38,119 --> 00:30:39,000
Whatever but that guy is in a.

734
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,079
Speaker 1: Wheelchair jobbers serve a, purpose, right, yeah, yeah you gotta

735
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:43,000
get these dudes on our.

736
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,559
Speaker 3: Earth The journeyman are willing to take a.

737
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:46,559
Speaker 4: Bump that guy, had like there's a toilet under his.

738
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,839
Chair he it just leaks into. It it's, like we'll

739
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:49,400
take carry your.

740
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,079
Speaker 1: Family you gotta. Go i'm, sorry we gotta break your.

741
00:30:53,119 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 4: NECK i, mean at least find like a you, know

742
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:59,640
someone with terminal cancer and be, like, hey we have a. Business,

743
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:02,279
yeah you don't have any money and a whole family

744
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:04,240
to take care of and you're gonna.

745
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: Die let's throw you off hell in the.

746
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,119
Speaker 4: Show, yeah let's just can.

747
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:07,839
Speaker 3: One of our.

748
00:31:08,079 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: Full he was not a JOB I god damn, It,

749
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:09,680
NO i.

750
00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: Wasn't but he wasn't supposed to do.

751
00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: That we're talking about dudes that would have been on

752
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,319
Like sunday night, heat you, know the good old days

753
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:21,920
before the pay per. Views, yeah an hour or so

754
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,559
before the men were set to enter the, Ring White

755
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:28,920
sox Owner Charles kamiski learned the dirty truth of professional

756
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,400
wrestling and had a conference with, promoters wrestlers and referees

757
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:35,880
informed in them that he wouldn't allow them to stage

758
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,960
this robbery in his. Park what year was this nineteen?

759
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: Eleven that's ironic since his.

760
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,519
Speaker 3: Own, team why was that this when they got when

761
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:46,119
it fixed right?

762
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: Right eight years later they he, goes, hey you can't

763
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,720
fix this, Fight we're going to fix this World what

764
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:51,240
a fucking.

765
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 3: Cocksucker.

766
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:55,119
Speaker 1: Huh, listen you know he had morals, then you gotta

767
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,039
think he had money on. It he hung around too

768
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:01,720
many wrestling promoter and he was able to throw The World.

769
00:32:01,759 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: Series, yeah he figured he picked it up from. Them

770
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,640
you gotta Think Arl rosstein was in on a lot

771
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,319
of this wrestling, bullshit the guy who did fix The World.

772
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: Series the chief of police ordered to call off all,

773
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:14,640
bets and once making the, announcement the crowd answered with

774
00:32:14,759 --> 00:32:18,119
an angry, roar followed by a confused silence to what was.

775
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,039
Happening the belt still went on as, planned With gosh

776
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:25,119
pulling off the, wind drowned out by thirty thousand, strong

777
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,720
billing the ever living shit out of the.

778
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,079
Speaker 4: EVENT i, say you keep the. Bet they don't know

779
00:32:29,079 --> 00:32:32,160
who's gonna, win you know WHAT i, mean even if it's,

780
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,240
predetermined they don't know who's gonna. Win their bet is

781
00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:35,559
just the.

782
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:37,759
Speaker 2: Same why aren't they paying off these guys like The

783
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,000
why aren't they giving them a? CUT i feel like

784
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:41,440
they just didn't want to cut him, In, like why

785
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,680
are they gonna tell everybody it's fake when it's like

786
00:32:43,799 --> 00:32:45,440
we got to, money make a business, here or we're

787
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,880
gonna print.

788
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,559
Speaker 3: Money let's do.

789
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:49,359
Speaker 4: That Let kamiski in on the on the. Table give

790
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,599
him called the. Vig it's called the.

791
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: Vig this was the pivotal moment Where americans finally saw

792
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,200
pro wrestling for the. Magic it really well an entertainment,

793
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:05,559
product not a legitimate. Sport because of, this wrestling went

794
00:33:05,599 --> 00:33:09,799
into a tailspin and. Popularity that was until the Gold

795
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,039
Dust trio came around in The roaring twenties and saved the.

796
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: Day, look people wanted. Entertainment this was like that was

797
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,240
the first entertainment boom In, America like mass. Media that

798
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:24,319
was the radio everyone. Wanted they didn't care if it

799
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:27,240
was fake or. Real at that, point the, Bored, yeah

800
00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:29,680
but they wanted. More like they got the, radio got

801
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,960
it there hook it's hooks in, Them, LIKE i need

802
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,559
more fucking shit to make me.

803
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:39,279
Speaker 1: Interested So Ed, Lewis Billy, sandal And Toots mott revolutionized

804
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:42,720
and saved professional wrestling with their. Promotion they were the

805
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:50,440
pioneers of signature, moves, finishers, finishers tag team, matches distracting

806
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:56,359
and subduing the, referee, okay classic love, that and, flashier

807
00:33:56,559 --> 00:34:00,799
more acrobatic stunts to get people in on professional. Wrestling

808
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:01,640
see more people.

809
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: Need to do hardy boys, Shit yeah swan tom bomb

810
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,440
dude from the. Top, yeah THAT'S i was always a

811
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,559
big hardy, boy was.

812
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: Too that's why my dad THOUGHT i was gay.

813
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,039
Speaker 3: Because the fishnets doggings in the colored.

814
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: AIR i went Some monday net raw is like a

815
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,119
ten year old and YEAH i wore just. THAT i was.

816
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:19,519
Cutting were you really you were a scene?

817
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:20,599
Speaker 3: KID i.

818
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: WASN'T i was a hardy, boy but for the NIGHT i.

819
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,199
Speaker 4: Was, yeah hardy boy also just an inherently gay name as.

820
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,239
Well so, yeah none of.

821
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: That Helped, yeah where They why why go?

822
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,199
Speaker 4: THAT i don't. Know you gotta Think vince should have

823
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,760
been The Bash brothers or, anything, right or we already

824
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,400
have The Dudley.

825
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,519
Speaker 1: Bros those are my.

826
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: Favorite.

827
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah they were kind of like THE bassecw. Guys, yeah

828
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,960
those were others in the.

829
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 4: BEGINNING i mean The Dudley. Bros WERE i, mean no

830
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,119
one would be, like, OH i think my son might

831
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:49,800
be a little fruity if you were a Dressed.

832
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 3: NO i think you're. RETARDING i think you got.

833
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,519
Speaker 1: Down they're walking around With Stacy keebler and, yeah you

834
00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:59,199
know she was looking fine as well in them the. Shorts.

835
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 4: Yeah so, yeah, yeah he's just said he quit drinking

836
00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:05,920
before the, show and uh THAT i had a real

837
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:06,800
FANCY i P.

838
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: A brought it.

839
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: On he was the first one to drink beer in the.

840
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,440
Ring did you know?

841
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,199
Speaker 4: THAT i did not know. That you, know.

842
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: He was the first one with a beer. Sponsorship and

843
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,239
who sponsored him?

844
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,559
Speaker 4: First it, was uh THE A b Or miller or

845
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:20,079
was it?

846
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,159
Speaker 3: Was it was A b because he started he would

847
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:22,800
do bud.

848
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 4: Heavies, yeah, yeah well he's. Done he can't do bud

849
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,760
lights on, it like even that's not even like a

850
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,880
current political. Thing it's just like you needed. That he

851
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,800
needs to do a man's like the. Diesel yeah, yeah, yeah,

852
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,840
yeah he really, though he's got like he's really got

853
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:36,760
Like milwaukee's best.

854
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: Vibes oh, yeah oh yeah, yeah hands.

855
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:43,199
Speaker 4: Down Like. Budweiser almost seems like he. Won't he looks

856
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:44,760
like the type of guy who'd only drink Bud wiser

857
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,239
because he's had a steakhouse and they. Won't that's that's

858
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,239
the that's all they, got, yeah.

859
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: Exactly the Gold Dust trio would actually kind of revolutionize

860
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:56,239
the game by rather than paying traveling wrestlers to perform

861
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,440
on certain dates and combining wrestlers and matchups when they were,

862
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,519
available they actually kept guys on the roster and would

863
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:07,599
kind of develop these long term angles and feuds for

864
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,880
months and even years at a. Time so this is

865
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,760
kind of what we really know as professional. Wrestling that's

866
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,239
what it comes.

867
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,159
Speaker 4: About was the. Twenties, okay it was a Big it

868
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:20,400
was a big decade for, showmanship you know WHAT i.

869
00:36:20,519 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: Mean and obviously they kind of break off the different.

870
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,719
Promotions they kind of go under the Gold Dust trio

871
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,039
after like the twenty five to twenty six because some

872
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:33,920
of their guys just go.

873
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 4: Rogue they want to strike it on their.

874
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: Own, no, no they just go against their. Orders oh,

875
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:42,079
oh like you're supposed to lose this, match and then they're,

876
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:43,199
like fuck, That i'm not losing this.

877
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,519
Speaker 4: Dude so it becomes a real fight at that. Point

878
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:48,519
kind Of, YEAH i love. That that's WHAT i. WANT

879
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,679
i want someone to go off script and then they

880
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,760
just actually have to fight each. Other and then couldn't

881
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,960
they fight even you know WHAT i? Mean like could

882
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,320
an actual other than the like.

883
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: Real fights break up even in professional wrestling, now but.

884
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: Like other than the like five or six that are

885
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,119
like TRAINED mma fighters or Like lesner WAS mma right

886
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:05,920
first he.

887
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: Was a no, no he was a college, wrestler oh college,

888
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,679
wressler college, wrestler pro, wrestler went to THE, ufc oh.

889
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 4: Okay but, then Like Kurt angle was An olympic wrestler

890
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,360
before he BECAME.

891
00:37:15,159 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: I want to go medal with a broken freaking. Neck

892
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,239
BUT i feel like most of them they're just like Perk, angle.

893
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:24,559
Speaker 2: Per oh perk Thirty angle, dude they do a thirty

894
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:25,760
for thirty per Thirty angle.

895
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: DUDE i feel like most of them can't, fight like

896
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,840
actually fight like you'd be like WATCHING nba players.

897
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: Fight, Well Sam punk tried to go to THE ufc

898
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:34,719
and just got wrung By Mickey.

899
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah and Then shamrock was a big he was

900
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,000
he was in and.

901
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: Then went to wrestling. After.

902
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah but like most of them are just like.

903
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,039
Acrobats yeah, YEAH i MEAN i guess The rock played like.

904
00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:51,599
Speaker 1: Football it's always been a. Circus goldberg also played. Football yeah, yeah.

905
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:53,159
Speaker 3: Yeah But henry Was World strong's.

906
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: Man, yeah BUT i but that Doesn't it's the type

907
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,679
of thing WHERE i think about Like, superman Where i'm,

908
00:37:58,679 --> 00:38:01,000
like why would he beat good it like he's, strong

909
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:02,239
but why would he have good form and?

910
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: Fight?

911
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah you.

912
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: Know, yeah it makes more sense because Like Ray mysterio

913
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:09,280
in real life is not beating The Big. Show, no

914
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:09,719
it's never.

915
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 4: Happened it Was. David you never know, Though, dude did

916
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,360
he bring a? Sling he did?

917
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,599
Speaker 1: Not well he's six one. Nine, yeah it was his finishing.

918
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:18,360
Movieka it was essentially a human. Sling that's a human.

919
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 3: Sling, Well Brett hart and, him they were the real.

920
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,639
Speaker 1: Deal they. Were they were wrestling The montreal screw Jab montreal.

921
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: Screw damn, it, DUDE i Love Sean, michaels.

922
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: So they also considered that fight in nineteen, eleven the

923
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,440
original wrestling screw. Job hackenschmidt allegedly was supposed to. Win

924
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:38,559
oh and he got.

925
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 4: What once the money was, off it didn't matter.

926
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: Anymore he also had a bad, knee so he came

927
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,119
into the fight with a bad knee and uh.

928
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah they didn't he just go after his knee

929
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,039
the whole.

930
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: Time, yeah, yeah, Yeah well if he's got a bad, Knee,

931
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:53,800
Like i'm not gonna lose this, fight what are you

932
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,239
supposed to?

933
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 4: Do only throw the ball in where the batter can hit.

934
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: It you know WHAT i?

935
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,599
Speaker 4: Mean it don't. Work, yeah we're just only throwing it

936
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:01,039
down the. Dad, yeah a scripted.

937
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: Fight and he's, Like i'm not losing this, dude he's

938
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,440
got bad. Knee.

939
00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 4: Yeah people Think i'm a pussy IF i lose this scripted.

940
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,000
FIGHT i got not with this.

941
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:11,519
Speaker 1: Knee, Yeah and that is where we're going to stop

942
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:15,599
today BECAUSE i just, thought, like just those really early. Years,

943
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:18,920
obviously there's plenty of coverage with The netflix documentary on

944
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,719
The vince McMann, stuff how he kind of revolutionized the.

945
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,599
Game up until that, point it was all just regional.

946
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:28,519
Stuff like we kind of referenced earlier with what was some.

947
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: Of the FACT i can't remember the top of my hand.

948
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,679
Speaker 1: With imagine you've come Across Rick flair with your activities

949
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,039
as a. Comedian, YEAH i was there his pants for

950
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:38,320
the first.

951
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 4: Time he, well so for the first, time, well first

952
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,119
Time i've seen well, yeah, okay fair.

953
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 3: Enough but he did try to take the.

954
00:39:45,679 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: Guy THAT i was, with the buddy of mine who

955
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,360
like and he like trying to steal his girlfriend.

956
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 4: There just he'll do that the horniest he came into our.

957
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,639
Work it was AFTER i didn't work there.

958
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:58,599
Speaker 1: Anymore, yeah BUT i Interviewed Rick flair and, uh just

959
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:00,960
maybe the war first interview.

960
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:04,079
Speaker 4: That he's like that every.

961
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: Time you would think he would turn it, on BUT

962
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:08,920
i guess he's just that that part Of.

963
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: Yah, yeah he's too he's too old, now, man he

964
00:40:11,559 --> 00:40:12,000
still has to.

965
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,119
Speaker 4: Pussy on a, Train, yeah he.

966
00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:18,159
Speaker 1: Does that came out after our, interview way after now

967
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:20,239
we interviewed, him and we let off with like how

968
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,679
he's kind of. Indestructible he survived a plane crash and

969
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,440
he took it a totally different. Way so he's like

970
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,199
a lot of good people died on that. Plane we're,

971
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,760
like oh, wow he.

972
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 4: Just like had like A vietnam, flashback.

973
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: Like LIKE i thought enough time would lost a lot of,

974
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:38,360
lost a lot of friends that a lot of good

975
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,320
men out there were playing for The.

976
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,159
Speaker 4: Yankees he did try to Fuck tasha.

977
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: Though, yeah then he tried to fuck our our camera.

978
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,239
Woman oh, okay so he's still he's still.

979
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 3: Instructible he was really.

980
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:50,639
Speaker 4: One he's really like there's one singular focus that he.

981
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,679
Speaker 1: Has he gave his hotel key to her in front

982
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:57,280
of her, boyfriend and her boyfriend's. Laughing d.

983
00:40:59,159 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: It's Got it's like an.

984
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 4: Omen it's just like tip of the hat And i'd be,

985
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,000
like you can go if you.

986
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 3: Want.

987
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,519
Speaker 2: Yeah you notice after that plane crash, though when he

988
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:10,119
would take, bumps like he he would fall sideways on his,

989
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:11,280
back he would not.

990
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: Fall flat like directly on the, back like directly take a.

991
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,000
Bump if you notice when he gets soup lex or

992
00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:17,000
he gets, thrown he.

993
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 1: Leans, also if you ever go back and actually watch

994
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,000
old School Rick flair, matches very rarely does he do

995
00:41:23,039 --> 00:41:26,599
anything other than get on his knees and like argue

996
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:29,039
not to hit. Him, yeah, yeah that's a big part

997
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:29,679
of it and then a low.

998
00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: Blow well that was the same thing With, hogan like

999
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,440
you know in the whole commanity when he get hit

1000
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,199
and like wouldn't sell.

1001
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:34,599
Speaker 3: It same.

1002
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 2: Shit it was just it had that little that was

1003
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,159
the thing in like the eighties and the early, nineties

1004
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:40,800
like where they would have that like.

1005
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: SHOWMANSHIP i guess you know What i'm.

1006
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,159
Speaker 1: SAYING i just liked.

1007
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:46,199
Speaker 4: That Rick flair's thing was, like please don't hit, me

1008
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,039
falsely waving a white flag and then, yeah, yeah.

1009
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it's like somebody call an, ambulance not for,

1010
00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:55,960
me not for me, Though yeah, yeah he was the.

1011
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,119
Original look if.

1012
00:41:57,039 --> 00:41:58,679
Speaker 4: It, WORKS i would just be LIKE i could that

1013
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,519
was before my, Time LIKE i grew up in like

1014
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:02,840
The Stone cold The rock. ERA i feel like as

1015
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,639
a child watching, THAT i would be, like what.

1016
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:06,199
Speaker 1: Do you.

1017
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:06,119
Speaker 4: Know what he's gonna?

1018
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:06,199
Speaker 1: Do?

1019
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 4: Right like he's not surrendering to. You how can you

1020
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,360
possibly not see this? Coming, jake This hick or whoever

1021
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,960
the fuck was, Fighting, like for the love Of, god

1022
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:14,559
just kill.

1023
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: HIM i don't THINK i would have gotten into wrestling

1024
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:18,360
IF i grew up in like The Rick flair. Era

1025
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,320
he was TOO i mean he obviously wrestled well beyond his,

1026
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,119
prime of.

1027
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:26,199
Speaker 4: COURSE i, mean if you don't know any, better he's

1028
00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:28,840
gonna take that's the best thing you've ever. Seen but

1029
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,000
if you compare the eras, this that stone cold attitude,

1030
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,960
era the rock that, was it doesn't get. Topped, no

1031
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,480
it was the best villains, too like by, far like

1032
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:43,360
actual hate able people who were even the villains Of

1033
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:43,960
Rick flair's.

1034
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:49,639
Speaker 1: Era Roddy. Piper, Okay piper was good the. Heels Rick

1035
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:52,239
flair was a. Heel he was he was the. Guy

1036
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,519
no one's cheering For Rick flair really.

1037
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 4: Until it just he just becomes a legend of it

1038
00:42:57,119 --> 00:42:59,880
because he's in there in every local, town fucking everybody's. Way, yeah, No,

1039
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:03,320
ship he's just like you ever been with a fake fighter?

1040
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: Before it's.

1041
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 4: KEY i just can't imagine he actually lays good pipe.

1042
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,679
Speaker 3: Either already's hung as a. Horse you, know he slapped

1043
00:43:14,679 --> 00:43:15,079
people on the.

1044
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 4: Chest, yeah it's all for, him, Though is that his party.

1045
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 3: Knocks Over martini glasses and? SHIP i?

1046
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 4: Hope so what a?

1047
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 3: Guy what a fucking?

1048
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,519
Speaker 1: Guy what did you guys learn?

1049
00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:34,119
Speaker 3: Today Hack squat only invented the bench, press he.

1050
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:38,159
Speaker 1: Didn't, Yeah hack And schmidt the, press what about.

1051
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:41,599
Speaker 4: YOU i just like that The Civil war gave us

1052
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,280
two of our. Pastimes baseball blew up in The Civil,

1053
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,440
war and fucking so did pro wrestling. APPARENTLY i, mean

1054
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,000
IF i had nothing else to, DO i would and

1055
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:53,119
lived in a small, TOWN i would obviously.

1056
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: Like, Again i'm going to see.

1057
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: It, yeah literally what else is there to?

1058
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,679
Speaker 1: Do and pro wrestling came out of real wrestling kind

1059
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:01,079
of being too.

1060
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 4: Boring, yeah it's like an m a fight where they're

1061
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:04,519
just grappling the whole.

1062
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:08,079
Speaker 1: TIME i don't want to see. That, theatrics, yeah makes.

1063
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:10,920
Sense and then it was kind of getting washed by

1064
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,199
baseball and horse. Racing so the kind of boding the

1065
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,159
Gold Dust trio is what kind of put them.

1066
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:19,159
Speaker 3: Over it made it entertainment more, so right.

1067
00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 4: SPORT i assume there was a lot of like we

1068
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,119
look back, on like boxing as being like a glory

1069
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:26,320
sport in the twenty which it, WAS i, guess BUT

1070
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,360
i guarantee, you just like, today there were still a

1071
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,679
lot of boxing matches where like you just like do,

1072
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:36,800
this they're just leaning. On, yeah, yeah it's like someone.

1073
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: You watch that. Thing there was there was good fights On.

1074
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,199
Speaker 3: Yeah the under cards Always, YEAH i mean there was

1075
00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:45,480
in THE ufc was going on, too Because Holly holmes

1076
00:44:45,519 --> 00:44:47,599
was on the car, too he was on the boxing.

1077
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,119
Speaker 1: Card THE ufc car was just really. Good oh that was.

1078
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: Great that was a good.

1079
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: One. Uh and then we did this thing at the

1080
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,199
end of the show called who Is Today's? Hitler Because

1081
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,000
americans are so bad at, history they reference the worst

1082
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,159
possible person is Always. Hitler so if you always compare

1083
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:03,199
somebody To, hitler no.

1084
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:05,519
Speaker 4: Matter the, situation if you're the bad guy and You're hitler,

1085
00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:06,760
basically you.

1086
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,079
Speaker 1: Know WHAT i.

1087
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:11,079
Speaker 4: Mean like if you're if you're voting against uh local

1088
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:15,440
proposition that expands a bus line because you don't want

1089
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,079
to get taxed that extra three, cents you're You're?

1090
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:20,519
Speaker 1: Hitler so who is in this story THAT i just

1091
00:45:20,599 --> 00:45:22,920
told kind of everything we kind of. Covered who is

1092
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:23,920
the worst person in this?

1093
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: Story probably Vincing man having that woman get shipped on by, people,

1094
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,800
right that'd be my.

1095
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 4: Vote Brock lessers just pitching that toilet girl.

1096
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,679
Speaker 3: BITCH i think.

1097
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,039
Speaker 4: He later fucked her, too by the, Way LIKE i

1098
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:39,840
think he did end up banging her as. Well how.

1099
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: MUCH i don't think a. Lot, No, no. GRANTED i

1100
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,039
mean girls go To dubai for fifty grand to get shipped.

1101
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 3: On that's over here with a boy for five. Grand shit,

1102
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:55,400
happens you know What i'm.

1103
00:45:55,400 --> 00:46:00,119
Speaker 1: Saying, YEAH i mean the price is the price that

1104
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:00,679
you're willing to.

1105
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,599
Speaker 3: Accept, YEAH i mean everybody's got a.

1106
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 4: Number, yeah, YEAH i mean there. Wasnactics i'll get ship on.

1107
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,280
It there's a number for me to get shipped.

1108
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:08,679
Speaker 1: On what's your?

1109
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 4: NUMBER i have children LIKE, i you, know they need

1110
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:11,880
to go to school and stuff like.

1111
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: That, yeah three kids, now, yeah so imagine what number

1112
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,119
is lower now that you haven't.

1113
00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 3: Watched Rick flair shit on all of us at the,

1114
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:18,599
bar and that it was for.

1115
00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:19,599
Speaker 4: Free you know What i'm.

1116
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: Saying he didn't even pay the drink. Bill oh he bounced.

1117
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,000
Himself you gotta.

1118
00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:28,079
Speaker 1: Go, yeah you can't stay, here but leave the card, Though.

1119
00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,199
Speaker 3: YEAH i mean, yeah leave a fucking one hundred dollars

1120
00:46:30,199 --> 00:46:30,599
tip or.

1121
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:32,119
Speaker 4: Something does he have that type of money?

1122
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: Though Rick flair right, now.

1123
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,519
Speaker 2: Dude he's killing it with them energy drinks all the.

1124
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:38,079
Bullshit oh yeah that's.

1125
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: True, yeah he's not Like Pete rose going to kind

1126
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:41,639
of card. Shows.

1127
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: Yeah P, rose who definitely lost all his money.

1128
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,519
Speaker 1: Before, yeah he's signing things for forty.

1129
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:48,159
Speaker 3: Dollars put fame after.

1130
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,599
Speaker 1: It was a lifetime. Ban, yeah but he died his life's.

1131
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 4: Old did you see what Fu one of THE i

1132
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,400
think it was said he'd live five. Five he would

1133
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,159
have still be alive if they put him in The

1134
00:46:58,159 --> 00:46:58,440
hall Of.

1135
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 3: Fame that's a hilarious.

1136
00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 4: Just another, dude by the, way like people stopped caring

1137
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,119
about his cheating and then he got like a second

1138
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:09,079
wind of hate because that chick came out and was, like,

1139
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:12,000
no he fucked me WHEN i was, fourteen And Pete

1140
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:16,199
rose was, LIKE i thought she was. Sixteen i've never.

1141
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 2: Seen a seventy five year old were a flat brim.

1142
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,199
Though that was crazy to. ME i mean when he,

1143
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:20,639
comes oh my, god flat brim.

1144
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: Hats, YEAH i don't think he had the strength to bend.

1145
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,639
It maybe that was.

1146
00:47:23,679 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 3: It, well he did get a fuck ton of hits,

1147
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,440
Though i'm sure he still's.

1148
00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: Got he's the hit. King he also dyed his hair

1149
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,760
to the, END i. Believe, yeah very Like coach. K.

1150
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:35,519
Speaker 4: Yeah he absolutely should have been like the greyest motherfucker

1151
00:47:35,559 --> 00:47:39,360
alive with the life he, led but just he just

1152
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,199
kept that die job.

1153
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,599
Speaker 1: GOING i can't Believe John daly's outlived.

1154
00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:44,199
Speaker 4: Him he's younger than.

1155
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,639
Speaker 1: Him, yeah but he's he's at cancer for like fifteen

1156
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,800
years at this.

1157
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:48,639
Speaker 4: Point he's living with.

1158
00:47:48,679 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 3: It yeah, yeah, right he dropped himdye. Coke keep it a.

1159
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 4: Bad tumor's part of his. Body, yeah like it just

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lives with.

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Speaker 1: Him, Well, laser thank you for. Joining where can the

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good people find? It glazer? Everywhere? Everywhere? Everywhere have you

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got anything fun coming? Up and it? Shows?

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Speaker 3: Uh, Vancouver, Uh july.

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Speaker 1: Thirty first Through august. Second they're letting you In canada.

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Speaker 3: Barely, yeah we're getting.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah they're not as strict as they are with

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letting people. In, yeah letting.

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Speaker 4: Out you need to if they check you on the way,

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in you need to have like several fucked up memes

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at the front of your. Thing you just said That.

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Norwegian oh yeah, yeah, yeah you need to just have

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like A jdvance meme at the, front just to see

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if they lay you back.

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Speaker 2: In yeah, no uh, yeah canas where they wont let

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you take your merch. In you have, to Like, claire

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your merch like declared is like it's, weird but, Yeah

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i'm just gonna go up there with horse and saddle

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from Fucking oregon and we'll figure it out there you, Go.

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Speaker 1: Well make sure to check out the picture on picture

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on the dot com slash software, history where you get

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tw additional episodes every Week wednesday And. Friday and, Yeah,

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laser thanks for joining Frob. Fox i'm The. Laser I'm,

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Damage so you just got saw serves