Speaker 1: I was listening to the story about It was the
story of a family in Washington and the little boy
called the big Foot the cowboy man, and he had
apparently it had made an effort to steal this kid.
And it hit me. My children were in that play
pen behind me with nothing but a mosquito net over him.
It could have crept up behind me and taken both
of my children and I wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: His father just got like a Mustang or something from Wyoming, Okay.
He had it out in the corral because he couldn't
put it in the barn with in the stalls with
the other horses. It would kick and made all the
other horses nervous. At a seminal Indian work in the
horse trying to break it. Every day they had it
out in the corral. The skunky snuck up behind this
horse and grabbed it bonnets, hind quarters. This particular horse
that kicks out, jumps over the corral, runs into the pair,
you know, to get away. At this point, the ranchers
out there just blessed away with the dirty, dirty sun
gave runs into the swamp.
Speaker 3: I went up there one day after that or two
days after that, I went up there and sat in
the silence up there, and I'm telling you, man, it
was free. It was crazy, you know it was. There
was a crazy vibe up there.
Speaker 4: Still.
Speaker 3: I did what I could to kind of get things
under control. But I told her, I said, you need
to get off this property. I feel like, no matter
how strong you are, it's almost like standing in the ocean.
You can't stand still without moving your feet. You're going
to get knocked over eventually. No matter how strong whatever,
you can't withstand a barrage or of weird spiritual energy.
Speaker 5: It was up Ford's Wine. Welcome back to pay Normal Odyssey,
got a really good show on deck for you today.
Had a chance to sit down with Crystal or My
Home Mistake of Tennessee. Crystal is a paranormal investigator. She's
been doing it for a very long time. During her
time doing this, she has to pick up the nickname
ghost Baked. This lady is absolutely fearless, guys. She was
just recently featured on an episode of Hunted Discoveries. She
talks a little bit about that. Some of the things
that she's done at her home away from home, as
she describes it, Brushy Mountain, guys. This was a really
really fun episode. Learned some interesting things and I know
you guys are going to enjoy it. So I'm just
gonna stop talking and we're gonna get right into it.
I know you're ready. I'm ready. Let's get started. Crystal.
How are you doing, man, I'm good. How are you doing?
Very very well? Thank you so very much for hanging
out with us tonight. As I mentioned, you were just
on the Haunted Discoveries, right, Yes, how did that come about?
And how did that go? What happened and all of
that good stuff.
Speaker 6: Well, I mean I was really good friends with Kevin
Oughtie for a while before all that came about. And
everybody knows the Brushy Mountain is my home. That's my
homeway from home. I can get you anywhere in there
you need to go, tell you anything you need to know.
I should actually be on payroll, but so he just
he just messaged me and said, hey, do you want
to do this? I don't you know? I want you
to join. So we joined and it was I did
it also with my friend Tim He we actually met
there for the first time. Tim and I did. Prior
to that, we did an over not together first time
we ever met, So it was kind of It's kind
of cool how it worked out because we both got
to do the show of the place where we it.
He's kind of my paranormal mentor so, yeah, it it
all worked out. It was It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, very cool. Did y'all experience anything while you were there?
Speaker 6: I mean I always experienced a little something. Our role
in the show was actually interview our experiences, you know,
something that really stood out. So we didn't We wasn't
actually a part of the investigation that you saw on screen,
but we each talked about and was also there with
another individual, bas Allen, So we all had our little spots,
our favorite spots, and that's where we we went and
we gave our interview and they did the investigation that night.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, So y'all weren't a part of the investigation
that night.
Speaker 6: No, I'm not that night.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 6: I think that's served primarily for just the crew of
the show, and I'm sure there's legalities of that that
that I'm unaware of.
Speaker 5: Yeah, where where can people find that? Again?
Speaker 6: On It Discoveries as available on Sling TV. There's actually
it comes on Haunt TV live, I believe on Fridays
and Saturdays. If you don't catch it live, you can
always catch it on Sling TV.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, yeah. In in preparations for this the
last few weeks, you and I have talked some and
you told me that something I found really interesting, you
don't get scared. Yeah, I questioned you. I was like, Okay,
are you just being a badass? Are you just like
saying this or do you genuinely not get afraid.
Speaker 6: I have only been scared twice and the first time,
well the one of the two times is what I
actually discussed on the Brushing Mountain episode. And I wouldn't
say that I was scared, but kind of. I mean
it could be a demon. We don't know, so, but no,
I really don't. I'm usually the first one, which is
kind of how my name came about. It was actually
give Ben to me a couple of years ago, because
I will be the first one. I'm going in first.
I'm raising Oh yeah, I'll do it. I'll do it,
and us really not a lot I won't do and
I don't get scared. So yet I want to be scared.
I have tried. I really want to. I really want that,
but it's not happened so far, but twice.
Speaker 5: That's I just can't imagine because I'm just a big chicken. Uh.
We had who was it that we had on? We
had Chris on and she was talking about it. Wasn't
it Brushy? It was at where's the morning in Louisville?
What's the said? Yeah, her brother or brother in law
went down into the morgue and got put into one
of the drawers and got like touched and stuff, and
that he said that scared the hell out of him.
That was like, you've done that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh Lord, have mercy.
Speaker 5: You weren't scared. No, I actually I was with you there.
Speaker 6: We don't have time for that. We don't have time
to discuss that. I was actually laying in there singing
I'm not a lot.
Speaker 4: But that actually works out well for you. That actually
works well in your.
Speaker 7: Favor because you know his spirits and especially evil ones,
they feed off of that.
Speaker 4: So you can walk in anywhere and be like, don't
mess with me. I know what you are. I'm about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I've actually had that conversation with him before because
he's you know, he doesn't really get scared either, So
he says. He says he thinks it's because he when
he goes in, they just know he's not scared and
they don't mess with him.
Speaker 5: But I would think that because if it was me,
if I was a ghost, I would take that as
a challenge. I'm gonna scare you.
Speaker 6: I mean I do that as a living I'm to
be the one that scares somebody there that somebody's gonna
scream and cry, usually because of me.
Speaker 5: Somebody asked, did that raggedy and blink.
Speaker 6: H I means she might that. That's Arabella. I gave
her that name. I actually got her on a in
an antique store, so.
Speaker 5: Doll, I mean maybe maybe does it happen?
Speaker 6: Things? And I have all kinds of things in here.
This is where I sleep to that I've picked up everywhere,
either it be an abandoned location, whether it be at
a location, whether or an antique store or an online
antique sale.
Speaker 5: I don't care, not I.
Speaker 4: Nor I.
Speaker 5: I'll go out and I was telling Crystal this, I'll
go out in the woods at night and walk around
and scream and haller looking for a nine foot tall,
thousand pounds beast. I won't walk into a graveyard at night.
And I mean I would if I had people with me,
like coaxing me up, and if I wouldn't alone, but
doing it by myself.
Speaker 6: No, see here, you are the type that I love
to take on investigations. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 5: Out of you.
Speaker 4: That's why she would just grab you and go. There
would be a little puddle under you.
Speaker 5: So is that it is? That why, Crystal?
Speaker 6: She's not wrong.
Speaker 5: It's not wrong.
Speaker 6: I love mobies and people get scared. I mean I
hold it, I hold off till later. I mean I'll
just throw you into it. Scared.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it all like oohs.
Speaker 6: Up and then you know, grand finale, so and so crying.
Speaker 5: Wayne's in the fetal position behind that tombstone, the second
ist thumb. All right, Well, I always like to ask, like,
what is the most scared you've ever been on an investigation,
because we like to hear that stuff. But it kind
of sucks that you don't get scared.
Speaker 6: I mean, it was it was the if it was
the brushy that I could say was on the episode,
and it's just where I was pretty sure that I
come face to face and I'm not gonna say demon
because that's an overused word in paranormal I actually crange sometimes,
but I can't explain it has been anything else. So
it's either a really really really negative entity or of
the demon side of things.
Speaker 5: Well, those of us that haven't seen that yet the spoilersstory.
Speaker 6: Okay, So I was going through now. I used to
go to Rushi as a paralegal before it closed, when
it was an active prison, So I had already been
there and saw before you know, I you know, experienced
life behind the bars and brushy and years past. They
finally opened it back up for tours or opened it
up for tours, and I decided, well not, I'm just
gonna go I'm gonna do an overnight. What better way
to do it. I'm gonna just jump in. So I
had no equipment. I was completely an amateur. I mean,
I've been doing this before that, but to say, oh,
I'm an investigator and I'm going to go in here
and I'm gonna crack this now, I mean I was
with a large group and we were going through D Block.
But prior to that, we were in the cafeteria and
everybody's heard about the cafeteria Ernie covered cafeteria in his episode.
We were up there and I did get a little sick.
I was uncomfortable, I guess you could say. And then
as I kept going on, we go up to the auditorium.
Auditorium is notorious for being one of the most active
spots in Brushi, just because there was a lot of
deaths in there. You're talking about men and with their
backs turned to the wall, you know, lots of people
get into the throats, cut, you know, all kinds of
things because they're watching something, whether it be a movie
or someone speaking. There were lots of reports of what
they call I don't really remember. I've heard it called
several different things, but basically it would be like a
black slithering thing on the floor that they actually had
demonologists come in, and I think they even called it
a demon. Now, don't don't hold me to that, don't
help me do that, but I think that's kind of
what happened over the years. So I was up there
and I looked over at the tour guide Jamie, she's
the actually I think they owned it, and I asked
her if they had a gas leak. I smelled natural gas,
you know, with eggs, nastiness, you know, well, no, we
don't have gas here. We have electric up here. And
she said are you Are you okay? And I was like, well,
I don't feel well, but I smell gas. So she
takes me on into another area and she says, you're
gonna stay here until we're done in here. So I
had to miss most of that and uh so we
gone down. We're walking outside usaid get some fresh air.
I started feeling a little better. Go into D Block,
DE Block being where they kept the worst of the worst.
That's where you're gonna have your people in there for murder,
those people on death Row, that's the bad guys. I'm
in the back because even though I wasn't really deep
into this, I've still never got scared, even as a child.
And you're talking about somebody who watched horror movies and
went to sleep when she was like five. So I
was fine. And so I'm in the back and I'm
just mosying along and they go around the corner. But
something stopped me and I turned around because I heard
something clank like it was had hit me, like the
bar or something touched a bar, and I turned around
and it's this idea. I saw this. It wasn't like
a thing like I had heard. It was like smoke,
like black smoke was coming out from sell number thirteen, thirteen,
I won't forget that was thirteen. And it came out
from underneath the bar and it formed like it didn't
form a figure. It was just smoke all the way
up to the ceiling. And I shined my light on
it and it went the opposite direction. And I went
to the opposite direction just as fast as it did
because huh, oh, girl, don't play like that. You know,
I'm I'm not about that life. I don't scared, but.
Speaker 5: No, sounds like scared. It sounds like you're scared. Come
on scared, because.
Speaker 6: I mean you're talking about I had heard the stories.
I had been there before. I you know, I was
relatively new to some of this. It wasn't really sure
what I had got myself into that night. But it
didn't stop me. I kind of turned around and went back.
I went back in, yes, and I didn't see it anymore.
Speaker 5: So it's just was still there.
Speaker 6: The smell was still there. I could still smell it.
It was like it stopped and then it was back.
And I can't say demon because like I said, it's
an overused word, but there's been too many people experience
similar things that none of us have ever talked. And
then we get together or we meet or we meet online.
I'm like, wait a minute, I had had something similar happened,
So I gotta give a little bit of credit for
credits due there.
Speaker 7: Well, you know that sulfur, Sorry, Wayne, the sulfur smell
always comes with the highly.
Speaker 4: Negative entity spirits whatever.
Speaker 7: Yes, look, it was the presence of this thing, whatever
it was, was already there.
Speaker 4: It just waited for you to materialize.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm pretty sure it started up in the
cafeteria because you know, I smelled things. I felt that,
and if anybody knows me, I do have some gifts.
So at that time in my life, I was trying
to tap back into them and pull them back out
or they have been suppressed for so long. So yeah,
I was a little scared because I was like, wait
a minute, wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute,
wait a minute. You know, my daddy said I was
going to hell, and now there's a damon and I
don't know about this, So so yeah, I would say
that's the most I've been scared. That's it and I
did turn remember, so I.
Speaker 5: Think that that definitely qualifies.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 6: I mean I moved briskly, I said, I ran, but
I I just moved briskly because it did too. Like,
to be fair, it was as scared of me as I.
Speaker 5: Was of it. So it's like this smoke materialized in
front of you. It didn't take like a human shape,
or did it.
Speaker 6: No, it did not. I mean it happened rather quickly,
but I can't say it was ever a human. It
was just like a big puff of black smoke. It
was the weirdest thing, and then it went really fast
out the other door.
Speaker 5: Okay, Christal, When you first started talking about this experience,
you mentioned being a little bit sick, and I'm sure
you heard us at the beginning before we brought you out,
we're talking about our previous guests. He actually had to
step off camera because he was getting sick talking about
his experiences, and I said, I wanted to ask you
about that. Have you ever heard of people getting like
physically ill to the point of actually vomiting.
Speaker 6: Yes, I've even done that. I mean, I don't think
anyone who has any type of sensitivity to them at
all has not experienced that, and even as people who
don't even call themselves sensitive will experience that. I've seen it.
I've seen it happen many times. I've seen people pass out,
I've seen people. I've seen people have seizures. So I
can't explain that one. I mean, I've never been to
that degree, but I've even vomited, so it is a
very common thing.
Speaker 7: Well, and that's what he talked about with his mother.
His biological mother could walk into a store with crystals
in it, and if she felt some kind of negative
energy or bad or just something you know, heavy, she
will pass out.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it multiple times.
Like sometimes it's not even sensitive. Sometimes it's just your
regular people that come to events. I mean I have
seen someone talking out of their head and that was
a little little hard. At first, I was going, Okay,
that that's a little suspicious. But then as as she
was coming back around, I realized there was nothing suspicious.
There was something attaching to itself to her, and that
actually happened at Waverley, So I mean I didn't get scared.
I actually watched the whole thing because well, what's going on.
But I've seen that I know, unless they're really good actors.
Speaker 5: So you mean like speaking in tongues, not really.
Speaker 6: Speaking in tongues, but just saying crazy off the wall
stuff like there's somebody else, you know, like it's there's
not even them, and you know they're talking about something
they wouldn't know anything about, or they're blurting out names
of people they don't even know. You know, it's kind
of like there's something's trying to break through and communicate
through them. I've seen it, and like I said, I
usually have a pretty good feel for people, so I believe.
I mean after a few minutes, I believed it because
I don't think they were that good of actors. Now
this man has blowed me. Guys, I'm sorry. It's hot
in Tennessee, so you just gotta for that.
Speaker 5: You're fine. So you mainly deal with what ghosts and
like spooky stuff. I'm wondering if you've ever dealt with possessions.
I know you think demon is a loaded word and
that's used too much, but have you ever been asked
to participate in any like a possession or go into
a place that might be possessed, or deal with the
person that was possibly possessed or am I talking to
the wrong kind of person?
Speaker 8: Stay tuned for more paranormal Odyssey.
Speaker 6: I have been asked. I've actually I've got someone now
who's wanted me to come out, and I am fully
intended when I find someone that I'm comfortable I was
taking in there with me because everything she says is
a little bit intimidating. I've not been around anything like
that per se because I'm not that I'm scared. Disclaimer,
I just don't know that I would be of any help.
I think it takes a special person. I think it
takes a special amount of faith, and it's something that
not anybody should try. You know, if you're gonna do
something like that, you better have something to back it up.
You better have that faith, you better have the knowledge,
you better you better know what you're doing, or that
could go bad for everybody in the room. I don't
feel comfortable. I have been asked, I mean, and I've
turned it down respectfully, but I just don't feel like
I've that person now. I have cleansed homes. I cleanse
mine monthly, but again, not possession related, just negative energy
kind of thing.
Speaker 5: I think you're one thousand percent right, Crystal, that would
take like a spiritual type person, a preacher, a priest,
someone like that. Now, now you just said you cleanse
your home monthly, walk us through what is that? What
what do you do? Uh?
Speaker 6: Cleansing for me is a susious smudgeon. So I take
my message, I burn, I burn myssage. I go to
every corner of my home. Open the windows because you
don't want to leave your windows closed if you're burning sage.
Because if you've got negative and it's releasing itself from
something you, it's got to get out, So you just
open the windows. There's there's a fewel of things you
can say. You can pray. I pray or I just
I just ad Lord's prayer, anything like that of faith,
and I take it to every corner I can access
and asking a negative energy to leave.
Speaker 5: Okay, And do you do that for others?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I have, I've not done it in a while.
I'm gonna do it for this particular person that I'm
in contact with. But again, what she says to me,
I'm not I'm not cool with going there. But not again,
not that I'm scared, but that if what she says,
I'm not comfortable facing.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean that's when I tell people that I don't.
I've always been interested in the paranormal, doing what you do.
Just the one thing that's always taught me is the
fear that something's gonna come latch onto me and I'm
gonna take it home with me. That's more of what
I'm afraid of. I've seen the possession movies, you know,
the Exorcist, the Exorcist of Emily whatever. I've seen these movies,
and that terrify I was the absolute shit out of me.
I want no part of it.
Speaker 6: I mean, not that it happens, it's happened to me.
I mean it's happened.
Speaker 5: Tell us about a time that that's happened to you.
Speaker 6: The time that sticks out the boast was it from Waverley.
And I've actually talked to people and that had again
no idea that these things are happened to me. And
I talked to them and they're like, wait, that happened
to me too. But we did an overnight and I'm
not gonna lie. I wasn't one hundred percent safe that
night as far as like protecting myself. I didn't have
my crystals. I didn't tell anything to stay. I basically
I had opened myself up because I always opened myself up.
So for about a week my life was hell. I'm
talking about there was nothing that's going right. I was.
I was on the verge of like locking myself up
in some looney bend because I was losing my mind
and I kept thinking, like what is going I was
having dreams, I was seeing people in dreams I was seeing.
I couldn't handle it. So the only thing that I
could come up with because the people that I was
seeing the same woman in the dream every night, I
had been to Waverley and that's the only thing that
I had done differently. I got my honey end in
the car. I told whatever it was, come with me.
We're going. Because that's the theory. The theory is that
they cannot stay. If you tell it, it cannot stay.
But I took it a step further because I'm nice
like that, and I drove all the way to Louisville
and I just popped at the gate and I said,
get the hell out of my car.
Speaker 5: You gave me a ride home. That's very nice.
Speaker 6: I mean, I was that. Yeah, I see, I'm nice,
but I'm even nice to the mean things explains my
romantic life. But but.
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 6: That's it. I can honestly say that, I really think.
And I've talked to other people in like Denise and
Ernie they used to you know, be and have even
talked to her about it in detail and she's like, yes,
that that's normal, and she gave me the name of what.
I don't remember because I like to forget some things,
not purpose, it just happens. But if it's happened, I've
had some things that are in my home and I'm
not sure if I brought them here or if they
just kind of wondered here, if they were already here.
Speaker 5: So do you believe any kind of spirit can latch
on to someone or does that have to be like
an evil entity to latch on? I mean, I I
don't know. This is all new to me.
Speaker 6: It would be anything. I think. My opinion is if
you're out like that, you're open. I mean, it could
be a child. It could be a child, and you
might remind them of their mother, you might remind them
of their sister. You know, someone that is comfortable and
home to them, something they've not felt in a while,
and they're gonna want to go with you. And if
you don't tell them, and the theory is again, if
you tell them they can't go, they can't go, then
they're going to go. They're going to go home. They
think you're going to go home. So I especially children.
I think children do it more than anything.
Speaker 5: And you know, I've heard more. It seemed like the
most stories I've heard about things coming home with people,
probably the most of them have been children, Like they
feel like a little girl, a little boy came home
with them, and that's just sad.
Speaker 6: I think, Yeah, I mean, I have a spirit here,
but he pops in and out and it's a child.
And again, I think it was already here when I moved.
I'm not one hundred percent sure because it started with
my youngest.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 6: Four when we moved here, and I would hear him
talking and he's a child, you know. I go in
there and say, who are you talking to? Oh, it's David.
I mean he would describe as David. I went with it, okay. Well,
then it wasn't long after that we started hearing a
bicycle bell like the old chit chain. It just randomly
out of the blue, couldn't be explained like, well, that's weird.
And then my oldest would hear a kid talking and
think that his brother was home. I'm like, no, he's
not here, Yes he is, and he would argue because
he does get scared. So we uh kind of just
concluded that. Well, then we was anytime it's raining, and
if you pay attention to the front door, it's not
all the time. But I've got a picture. I've got pictures.
You'll see this little tiny hand it's about this big
little handprint right on the front door because it's glass.
I don't have a child that small. So I've had
people say they've been touched. I've had people and you know,
just it doesn't bother me.
Speaker 5: But no, have you been touched on an investigation?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, on the regular that's like a common thing.
Speaker 5: Oh see, you act like it's nothing, and I'm trying swinging.
Speaker 6: Well, and that's why you'll be fun, you know.
Speaker 5: Us About the time you've been touched, I want to say,
have you ever been freaked out? But Crystal, don't get scared.
Speaker 6: No, I mean there's been so many times I've been touched.
Speaker 4: How did you feel the first time you were touched?
So let's put it that way.
Speaker 6: There you go, oh, I don't even know that I
really thought about it. It's like, oh, well, it's kind
of cool. I felt that brushing against me because it
kind of just feels like air sometimes.
Speaker 5: And then okay, so what about is touching you?
Speaker 6: It's not even And but then there's those forceful ones
that push you to the ground, and.
Speaker 5: There's that Have you ever been pushed to the ground? Yes, Okay,
that's fucking terrifying. We we talked to people that have
been scratched, and it seems like it's always in threes
or I watched the ghost shows where people we'll talk
about being scratched and it's in threes. People say the
Holy Trinity, all the Sun, Spirit, all that. I do
you have a theory on that? And have you ever
been like scratched or hurt?
Speaker 6: I haven't been scratched. I've just been pushed. I know
a lot of people have been scratched.
Speaker 5: Do you have a theory about the in threes or
have you dealt with that with anybody in your groups?
Speaker 6: I've heard of that, but I've heard people talking about
it just like that, and I don't want to make
of it. Honestly. I mean, I'm sure there's there's there's
something behind it. I'm sure, and I'm not really dug
into it because I guess because I just never experienced it.
If I don't experience it, then I don't really.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fair into it.
Speaker 6: But I've been on investigations and it's happened. I've seen
the scratches. I've seen them. Actually, I was at a
I think I've got some people here from the last
event that we had from Thomas House at the with
the Raiths. I saw a scratch on a woman and
we were going to haunt. I was like, scratch and
I've shined light on it. She said, you're a kid,
and I take a picture of it. But she didn't
feel it happened, and nothing's really negative there. So I
teetered on did she back up against something? But it
was it was scratch it, you know? Did she just
scratch herself? Was she itching? She didn't feel it, So
I can't confirm it, and I will be the one
that will debunk everything going on. So I can't confirm
she was scratched there by anything. But I can't say
she wasn't because I seen it. But she didn't remember it.
Speaker 5: Okay, Now we didn't really get into like what picked
your interest in the topic. I know we did the
first time. You're hear it because this is your second
time here, but it's been a while and we'd got
new followers since you were here the last time. You
said that as a child, you like scary movies and
things like that. But how did you really get into
going and actively seeking the dead?
Speaker 6: Uh? I was. I was around five or six, and
I started seeing people, especially at like family reunions and
cemeteries and things like my family. But no, you didn't.
You didn't see that because Southern Baptist. You don't see it.
It didn't happen. You're going to help, So I just okay,
I didn't see it. But as a child, there was
this particular house I lived in. There was a little
girl and I know her name. Her name was Sammy,
and she was like my best friend. But everybody said
that's just her invisible friend because she's an only child,
she's lonely. No no, no, no, no, she was definitely
not an invisible friend. I mean invisible to most people.
And then as I got older, I did start suppressing it.
When I became aware of what people were saying to me,
like that's not happening. You know, you don't believe in God,
go stay you know, it's only demons and negativity, and
you just learned to suppress it down, especially whenever you're
in an area like I'm from and I'm talking like
the belt buckle of the Bible belt. Well, we've got
to church every three miles, so you just don't do it.
I'm the only one here that does it, and I've
pushed against that hard to do it, and I'm kind
of proud of that. But as I got older, of course,
that's going a teenager wanting to thrill, going up to
do some thrills, and I was just I'm a sensitive.
I just didn't want to use it. I didn't want
anybody to know because I didn't want to say I
was crazy or I was possessed or all the things
that they're going to say. So I just didn't do it.
But we would go cemetery hopping and breaking into places.
Still do that.
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, just whatever, there's nothing wrong with the
little being if.
Speaker 6: It's not posted, I don't see anything wrong with it.
And sometimes those signs fall. I'm just saying, well, they're
abandon isn't. I mean, although you're gonna run into the
living in those places that are gonna hurt you way
before you're gonna run into anything that's dead. It's gonna
And yet I go right on in unarmed, and we
that's another story from their time. But anyway, I still
suppressing it a little bit. And then when my oldest
made it very clear one night when he was about two,
that he saw my deceased father, I pulled it back
out because I lost my dad when I was pregnant
with him, and I thought, there is something, you know
there there, there really is, And all those years I
told myself it wasn't happening. So I started dabbling into
it a little bit, but not telling anybody because I
can't do that. And then one day I just said,
if it look, I kept that peg, and I took
it and I went somewhere where there was actually a
real investigation and equipment and all the bells and whistles
and lights, and from then on I was hooked. So
I started pulling that stuff back out, grounding myself all
the time, trying to get those skills under control, because
it can get a little out of control and here
we are.
Speaker 5: So do you still see I mean, I don't want
to sound like the sixth Sense kid, but I see
dead people. Do you still see dead people?
Speaker 6: I lost my vision For the longest time. I would
hear feel I could tell you what was going on,
what had happened, but I couldn't see. Now the last
six months, it's there. It's back and I might not
see full bodies, but I can tell you where they're at.
I can see the figures. I might not be able
to see their face every time, but I can tell
you what sex they are, I can tell you how
tall they are. So I feel like it's coming back,
but I really don't care if it does, to be honest,
because I'm good. You know that I get scared. Disclaimer,
it's it's just I feel like you would be able
to tell what was real and what wasn't if you're
seeing full of people, like, hey, you know what you're
talking to? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Now do you have do you have a theory on
what has happened in the last six months that has
caused this? And if it's none of our business, just
say shut up, Wayne h.
Speaker 6: Just me opening myself up more trying to do things
on my own, stepping outside the box. I feel myself
back so so much because my first priority is my
kids and my real life. So just taking the time
to learn me and pull all that back out, put
it to use for the good, helping people every chance
I get. I mean it may be events, it may
be just every little Joe Schmo down the road who's curious,
but just pulling it back out and the grounding is important.
I can't say that anything extraordinary has happened to make
that happen, other than just taking the time to learn myself.
I've had a twenty twenty four has been kind of rough.
You know, there's been a lot of It's an emotional
year for me, and that could have something to do
with it too. You know, I'm pulling, I'm really honing
into a lot of different emotions, happy, sad, scared. I
do get scared, just not what you get scared about, yeah,
just you know, just a lot of emotions. I had
a kid that turned eighteen and graduated high school. I
have been on a roller coaster, so I maybe maybe
that's it, or maybe it's just taking the time to
learn myself and give myself a little grace because I
was told all my life that you don't do that. Yeah, well,
when they feed off of all the emotions and everything
that you're feeling too.
Speaker 7: But not seeing dead people is the greatest thing, because
how much would it suck to go to Kroger and
see a dead person on Al seven?
Speaker 4: That's a lot.
Speaker 6: That's my point. I'm gonna be sitting there talking to
somebody and I'm gonna be hauled off somewhere. They're gonna
take me to Marc a find and I'm gonna be
close to him. I'm gonna be Wayne's neighbor if that happens.
Speaker 5: So you did just say mocs and Ben, Yeah, that's
a that's a here next to me.
Speaker 6: So I don't want that. That's my point, is it.
I be cool to see real, to see the full thing.
But I talk to everybody. I talk to everybody, So
I'm gonna be like, chant it up with this dead
chick down over here and there. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm
gonna be Wayne's neighbor because I talked to everybody. I
run late constantly because I'm making friends in the bathroom.
I got friends in the show right now that we'll
tested that. I'm I'm gonna talk.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's probably somebody watching right now, top and that's dead.
But but you did touch on something, and I'm glad
that you did because it's a question that I've had
for a while. You talked about having you actively had
this imaginary for hour. Your family said, imaginary friend, but
it was very real to you. You interacted with. You said,
Sammy was the name, Mammy, Yeah, that.
Speaker 6: Was that was her name, and I can remember she
had blonde hair.
Speaker 5: Say Sammy, Sammy the girl. Okay, so you had you
were friends with Sammy for all this time. How does
that end? Do you remember your relationship with Sammy coming
to an end? Did she just stop showing up one day?
Did you push her away? You say, okay, I'm too
old for this. I'm interested in that.
Speaker 6: I've heard a lot of different stories from a lot
of people on this, and it's they're all the same. You.
You're told it's not real. You can trick your mind
into anything. That's where a lot of paranormal that's not
paranormal is happening right now, is you. People are scared
and a trick in their minds into seeing what might
not even be happening. That's what people like mayor for.
But you know, it's just a it's a pair of
fear going on. But you just tell yourself it's not real.
Speaker 5: Out of you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the people that you love, the people that you're faming,
they're telling you it's not real. Stop it, Stop it
right now.
Speaker 5: The analogy that I've used so many times is like
you had bleached thrown on it exactly.
Speaker 6: And then of course there's the theory of well, you
outgrow your vision, you know, you you grow up, and yeah,
life happens and you just you lose it. You know,
you're not innocent anymore. For lack of better terms, you know,
you've got life.
Speaker 8: Stay tuned for more paranormal odyssey.
Speaker 5: So I believe that with all my heart. I believe
we are all born with that. Some of us, like you,
hold on to it a little bit longer, but life,
our family, our friends, just just life bleaches it out
of us. Yeah, some of us hang on to it
throughout life. And those are the mediums in my opinion.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, those are people that really enjoy it
and they know what to do with it. And I'm
not there, Yeah, for way too long.
Speaker 5: I'm just not there for all those people that have
kept it most of their life, the ones that I've
talked to. I've talked to so many mediums, psych mediums,
and they have all told me the same thing. They
had a real strong support group growing up. And it
didn't sound like you really had that. But I did
want to ask because it seems like, you know, you
and I are Facebook friends, have been for a while,
even before all the paranormal stuff. You have posted stuff
about your father, and you mentioned your father tonight. You
lost him when you were pregnant with your oldest, so
he's been going a while now. But he seemed like
you were close to your dad. You loved him a
whole lot. Was how did he was he nurturing in
that aspect or was he one that kind of pushed
it out of you?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 6: He pushed it out. He was the strong Southern Baptist man,
I mean, and he wasn't mean about it, and it
wasn't like he was you know, it was just now, Crystal,
you know that's not real. You know, we only believe,
and you know God, the Father, Jesus Christ. And as
I got older and I would go against that and
be like, but Dad, isn't Jesus a ghost? And you
know that didn't go over well. So you know, and
you just him being my father and my every you know,
we were tight. I didn't want to disappoint him. I
didn't want him thinking that I was going to hell
or doing bad things. So it's not that he but
disowned me. It's just I didn't want him to be
disappointed in me, So I just pushed it down and
down and down, and because you know, I thought, well,
maybe he's wronged. No, none of us know. That's why
we're here. None of us know what's right and wrong
and here or there, what's what happens when you die?
Or we don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're exactly right, exactly.
Speaker 6: I don't think anybody who says they know I'm bullshit
full of shit completely because we're never gonna know. No,
I mean, so it actually happens, and then are we
gonna know?
Speaker 5: We Uh, we've got a few questions start for you,
so we'll go ahead and get to those if you
don't mind. Mike Wolf, my good buddy you were talking
about you were singing in the vault thing. He wants
to know what you were singing.
Speaker 6: Oh I sing everything. I sing everything from that particular
not if I'm not mistaken, I think I was singing
down with the sickness by Disturbed.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 6: I'm not even I'm not joking. I'm I kind of
go with whatever location on that.
Speaker 5: But that's kind of my I sing that on the
way to March.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's kind of that's kind of what I'm
known for. Okay, it's quite Crystal's gonna sing and it works. Oh,
it works. It worked, especially because I take it over
to approach the most people. I don't go in asking questions.
I just go in being met, and that's how I
do it. So I don't do all the questions with
do you ask them?
Speaker 5: Do you do you ever go in trying to agitate them?
Speaker 6: No? No, no. And if I'm ever with anyone who does,
if I can't stop them respectfully, because I do have
respect for everyone in the field, I'm going away. I'm
going the other direction because I don't believe in that.
I mean, that's no different than you coming into my
home and disrespecting me. You know, you come in and
try to talk and shit to me. I'm not gonna
take that well. And I know that sometimes they want
that reaction, I don't. I want I want the other
side to respect me as much as I respect them.
Speaker 5: I get that. I get that, and up until right now,
I had always thought that was a good thing to do.
One of the first peoples I ever interviewed as the
hosts of Paranormal Odyssey was this group out of Tennessee
called Wrestling with Ghosts. I don't know if you're familiar
with them or not. No, but they got some movies
out and stuff. I don't know, but they were really
cool people. But one of their approaches, they were two
of them were ex professional wrestlers, and that's why they
named themselves that. But they're One of their strategies was
they went in there to piss off the ghost. They
would go into Brushy Mountain the gentleman that that shot
doctor Martin Luther King. What's his name, Uh, James l Ray.
He's got to sell there, right, Yes.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 5: They would go into his cell and they would play
I Have a Dream the speech, and they will talk
about the reaction that they would get while they would
play that. And I just I was thinking, if your
goal is to get a reaction and to get some evidence.
That's pretty smart.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 6: Yes, now that I can see doing I'm not. I mean,
I do that. I mean if especially if I do
my homework on a place and I know something significant
can trigger something, and you know, but go in there.
And when I think of like taunting, I think of
like you're trying. You're challenging them to come out to you,
and you're calling them names, and you're do I've seen
people kicking, like kicking the location, kicking doors, kicking walls.
You don't do that, I mean, would go to someone's home.
Speaker 5: And do that.
Speaker 4: You're asking for it by doing that.
Speaker 6: Exactly, And it's just disrespectful. And I don't care what
that person was when they was alive. I'm so I'm
still gonna respect it. Now. If they start coming at me,
you know, I'm I might do you know, do what
I have to do at that point. But absolutely I'm
not going to go in there. No, And I said
I won't stop anyone, especially because I thought I do
respect everybody. Yeah, but I'm not going to be a
part of it.
Speaker 5: All right. We got a question from Romano Barrera. You
are new to the show. Thank you very much for
hanging out with us, says I see a I see
a shadow in my home. What can be done like
a shadow figure?
Speaker 6: I guess I mean if I were at that position,
that happened in that position. I mean you just if
you're not comfortable trying to communicate with it yourself to
see what's going on, maybe do a little history of
your home, see what could have happened, or who it
could have been. It could be a family member. I mean,
it may be something totally innocent and cool. I mean
cool for me, but not Wayne. But you know, it's
it could be something so simple, but then it could
be something not so simple. So you either get someone
who knows how to smudge and cleans and see what happens,
or someone that can communicate, which is what you know
people like me. Do you just reach out to somebody
and they'll come out and take a look, try to
break through, see what's going on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a great, great answer. My buddy
Matthew asks, do you think that having continuous bad dreams
is related to having negative energy in the home? And
I think this is a good question. I'm interested in this.
Speaker 6: In the home and on your person. You know, think
that it's your home that's haunted. Some people are haunted.
Some people have attachments. Some people are their own negative energy.
You know, they are bringing their own trauma and past
and it's causing things to happen, and that's where you
get the Polter Guys kind of activity. But dreams, Yes,
I think that that's definitely the other side coming through,
especially if you're seeing the same people the same place
as same incident. Something is trying to get to you
through that because that's the only way they can. When
you dream, when you're asleep, that's your vulnerability state, and
that's when you're completely open to anything. So I have
dreams constantly, but in that situation, if it's continuous and
it's the same person or event, or you've got something
that's trying to talk to.
Speaker 5: You, I want to find somebody and Tiffany help me
with this when we get done. I want to find
like a sleep specialist, a dream specialist, someone to come
on to talk about dreams. Yeah, I'm so interested in dreaming.
I've been dreaming about my mom so much lately. I
lost my mom October ten years ago, and I've been
dreaming about her so much lately. I love my I
was a mama's boy. She's my favorite, she's my best friend.
To this day. I'd give anything to talk to my
mom one more time. I've been dreaming about her a
lot lately, and I have it in years, and I
don't know what's up with that.
Speaker 6: I mean, I dream about loved one's gone a lot,
but it's usually when it's something going on that I
would go to them for, Like it's almost like they're
still they're trying to help me in that spiritual way,
or I'm doing it to myself, you know. That's again,
that's one of those things I can't say. I like
to think it's them coming to me and talking to me,
you know, helping me. But I guess it could be
your mind will do a lot to you, especially if
you're missing them, you're getting close to death anniversaries or
their birthday. I mean Father's Day is horrible for me. Yeah,
I will dream the whole week before and it'll just
be random stuff from the past. So it's just sometimes
it's your mind, but sometimes it's a breakthrough.
Speaker 7: Well sometimes it's very it's very bizarre. And it all
ties in with Tuesday's show. Everything Happened on Tuesday Wayne
stuff's screwed up, Tim gets sick or in the show,
and that night Harry had two nightmares.
Speaker 4: Kierre never has nightmares.
Speaker 7: She dreams about wrestlers, okay, because she's a big wrestling fan.
Speaker 4: She dreams about wrestlers. She's fourteen.
Speaker 7: She woke up the next morning and she said, Mom,
I had nightmares last night.
Speaker 4: And I was like, you had nightmares?
Speaker 7: Because I'm thinking back to the show, I'm like, oh, great,
what did I do?
Speaker 4: You know, what did I just say, hey, come here?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, yeah, she had nightmares that night and
she hasn't had any since that night.
Speaker 6: I mean, I think, I mean, sometimes you're really inviting
things in, especially negative spiritual beings. I think. I mean,
there's also that if you ever study demonology or anything
with demon. I'm not saying that with a demon. I'm
just saying because again that word is overused. But you know,
if you speak the name, you're inviting it. You know.
Sometimes I think if you talk about something so much,
you're inviting it into your home, into your car and
your self, you know, because you're you're open.
Speaker 4: Well, it was it was definitely something with Tuesday night
and the topic that we were talking.
Speaker 5: About wasn't it Saturday night?
Speaker 4: Was it Saturday? I'm just kidding it was Saturday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was Saturday.
Speaker 4: Because today's Tuesday. Sorry, it's the medication.
Speaker 6: No, I don't even know what it is. So you're
doing better than me.
Speaker 7: It was definitely something with that show, because everything's been
fine since then.
Speaker 5: So yeah, moving on the next one is it's more
of a comment. The image of six foot two Wayne
screaming like a girl doing the Scooby Doo is now
seared into my mind. You're welcome, Troy Glad.
Speaker 6: I mean I said that too.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, yeah, it wouldn't happen. I'm hard y'all
know that. Uh, Troy asking has Crystal had any dealing
with the Bell which in Adams, Tennessee, good question.
Speaker 6: Good question because I had heard my whole life that
I was related to Kate Backs and so you know
you're here, and then they would even tell somebody tell.
Speaker 5: Me, tell me that don't answer some questions why miss
Crystal ain't ever scared of shit?
Speaker 6: What? And there's a I mean, there's actually a record
of three witches in my family on my dad's side,
which is kind of funny because this is a Southern Baptist,
but I'm not gonna go there anyway. I'd heard that,
and then I actually went through and did a twenty
three and me DNA test, which they're actually real because
that takes DNA from different ancestors, you know, all over
and it came back as a direct of her descendants
because you know, she was a real person in their
DNA and it was a match.
Speaker 5: So there you are.
Speaker 6: I am. Yeah. So, and I've been there several times.
I actually helped in a event there last October in
the cave. I was the celebrity I hate that word too,
investigator and we had the cave all night.
Speaker 5: And I mean you went in the cave at night.
Speaker 6: All yeah, all the time.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: So I actually did that, but I've been there before that.
You're walking up and down the hill throughout the night.
It's October. It was a full moon that night too, Wayne.
Speaker 5: It was great. And I mean I would do it.
I would love to do it. I just I would
be like peeing myself.
Speaker 6: Well, just wear dippers.
Speaker 5: I guess it depends. Yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 6: As I mean, I have a theory on the bell Witch.
Some people it's not a popular opinion, because I have
heard stories handing out from a family. It's Kate Batts
was just a weird woman. She she did practice in
natural medicinal things. She for all purposes of that time period.
She definitely was a witch, you know. But you're talking
about a land that's full of Native American bad things.
You know, we all know Native Americans have really bad
things happened to them. And I really feel like a
lot of things at that farm is elemental. It's not her.
I think she's there as a protector. I think she's
always going to be there, and I think that she
might act out from time to time because that's her home. Yeah,
what people are experiencing it as negative and things that
are happening, I believe it's elemental and I believe it's
all Native American related.
Speaker 5: So Christ do you I have like a fascination with
the Bell Weirds. Have you done a lot of looking
into it and like do you know more than the
average person or would you say no, I.
Speaker 6: Would not only know the Kate that I've heard stories about.
There are so many stories of the Bell Witch and
it there's so many and Hollywood just made it worse
because they kept making different movies with different opinions, and
I mean you went from you know, to being have
a blesstation to you know, this woman pushed out a whale.
I mean, there's there's so many stories and everybody has
a story and a theory and I don't even know
what's what. I just know what I heard about her
handed down and that she was just kind of strange
and she was a natural person, like she just did remedies.
And I'm sure she did some kind of witchcraft, because
why not?
Speaker 5: Because Tiffany and I are talking about trying to come
up with some kind of Halloween special, and it wouldn't
it be cool to do something on the Bill Witch?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I'd be yeah, I'm
gonna have to go with you on that. And there's
so many things you could cover on a Halloween special,
but that would be a good one.
Speaker 5: I feel like, yes, if you had any knowledge on it,
we'd be happy to have you back to we do
like a Halloween special on the Bill Witch.
Speaker 6: I mean I can do it. I have pages and
pages of research on that as well as other things too,
and I try to compare and contrast.
Speaker 5: But okay, well, that's what idea. We'll talk about it.
Speaker 6: It's just one's of those things you just you know
what you hear, and you know what you read, and
you know what you see on TV. And Hollywood has
a way with this like.
Speaker 4: They's the telephone game, you.
Speaker 6: Know it is. Yeah, but Hollywood has even Hollywood hops
up Wiji boards. I mean, you've got Hollywood making a
lot of things that's that's wrong. I'm sorry, but they're
really hollywood in't it up out there?
Speaker 5: All right? Let's uh move on, mister Mike. Well, where
was the most active place you've investigated?
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm gonna have to say brush Sheet. I
sound like I'm promoting it and I'm not. It's just
I've been there. I've been there a lot. I've been
there the most, and I've been there and not have
anything I've been there any happen. Waverley it was probably
up there on the list, I would say, on hometown.
I mean, there's a lot here that it's online. It's
all mine because nobody does it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, mister Troy, good buddy. Do you think
the kind of person a person is during life has
anything to do with the kind of ghost they are
good cause I.
Speaker 6: And many other investigators feel you are in death who
you are in life. If you're an asshole and you're alive,
you're an asshole in death.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 6: I mean, you're still it's still your soul essentially. I mean,
we think we don't know because we don't know, but
that's I mean, that's what I think because I've encountered
some pretty assholeish spirits before.
Speaker 5: I would imagine mister Scott Trent is asking, do you
think that bad spirits since the presence of a godly
person in act accordingly another good question?
Speaker 6: I do. I do think that. I think that they
would see it as a challenge. We touched on before.
It's more of a challenge and you try to break through.
But you know you again, your possession stories are all
going to be based around Catholicism. I don't know the
connection there, I really don't, but it is based around
it is all revolving around Catholicism. So it puts that
theory on that. But I think so. I mean, if
I was a bad spirit and I saw a fone
with faith, I'm going to I'm gonna mess with them.
I'm gonna try to you know, turn them to my side.
Speaker 5: I agree, all right, Outlaw Paranormala also someone new to
the program. Thank you very much for hanging out. I
hope you come back. What is the best equipment that
you use beside yourself.
Speaker 6: Myself?
Speaker 5: Question?
Speaker 6: My favorite is EVP recordings, just because it's it's there,
it's in real time. It's not you're not pulling something
from a radio frequency that could be a radio, you're
picking up a radio station. It's real. You hear it,
I hear it, it's on that recording cameras. Cameras is
also my favorite, just a regular sell phone camera. You know,
the things you can catch that you don't see with
your eye.
Speaker 5: And you know, there's so much we can do with
our damn phones that we have in our pockets all
the time. You know, we got a camera, we got
the best camera out just about. We have a recorder,
we have video camera. There's so much we could do
with our phones.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I mean there's some great equipment, don't
get me wrong, But there's so much of it that
I have it and I use it, but I'll also
try to debunk it.
Speaker 5: I've got so much bigfoot equipment that I that never
even gets used. I just bought it because everybody said
to use it to get it, and I've used it
a couple of times. It's just your phone. Your phone
does everything it does.
Speaker 6: It does do everything. And there's those little recorders or everything.
I have got hours of recordings I've got to go through.
Speaker 5: And I just don't have to. I do too. Uh.
It's the I think it's the kill Family Cemetery in Georgia.
It's like the fifth most haunted place there. It's the
fifth most warted place in Georgia. And it's this old,
old cemetery and I left my recorder out there. I
was on a big Foot investigation like three years ago.
I left my recorder out in that cemetery all night
and I've yet to go through it. There's no telling
what's on that. I've got to go through it. But
I'm getting off topic. Last question, mister Joe Pat Could
ghost be hanging around because they are waiting to be reincarnated?
Interesting reincarnation.
Speaker 6: Reincarnation I believe in. I do believe in it. But again,
everybody's a theory on spirits and ghosts. Mine kind of
falls into the unfinished business kind of area or just hell,
they don't want to go. I mean, I mean, why
would you you know, why would you know when I
hang around and torture people? Wayne? Wow? I mean it's
just like I do believe in reincarnation, but I don't
know if I know what I still know.
Speaker 5: Gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean sometimes you just don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean, I have theories on it, and they may
be waiting around.
Speaker 5: I think I believe in reincarnation too, and I think
that's very interesting. Could could it ghostiously be hanging around
waiting on that right opportunity, you know, not this one,
not this one.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm going to dabble in something that's an
unpopular opinion right quickly. Sometimes what if we're not talking
to dead people? What if we're talking to other dimensions?
Speaker 4: Yep. Mike Bricksecker talked about that when.
Speaker 6: We had him on.
Speaker 4: Yeah. He was talking about people being in different dimensions
and a different time period coming across the sphere of box.
But they're actually living and we're living and we're just
communicating with each other.
Speaker 6: And that's something that I've started believing in more and
more and more as I go different places and I'm like,
there's no way this person's dead, Like there's no way,
you know, and I'm getting things. I mean, it's it's insane.
I mean, it might be stuff that hasn't even happened
that I'm hearing or picking up what this hasn't even happened.
But I don't know. I just I have dabble on
the other dimensions. Of course, I think Bigfoot's coming from
other dimensions too, so you got that going on. But
I mean, I just sometimes question is it always dead
or is it well?
Speaker 7: And you hear on different investigations that you watch, you know,
the questions that come across sometimes like the one I
saw the other.
Speaker 4: Day, they were asking that hurt to die?
Speaker 7: Well, they're living there nothing right right, This is a
question that they does ask does it hurt to diem across.
Speaker 5: And you tell me you know you're dead, I'm not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, They're like, I don't know, I'm not dead. I
don't know if it hurts is to die, And it
does make you question.
Speaker 6: It was like I said, I have I have heard
and things even coming through equipment that just doesn't make sense,
not where I'm at, not not in the time period,
not anything and it's almost like someone's investigating us, investigating them,
and we're just going in a crazy circle. We're just
investigating each other. So no, and that's again we don't
know anybody who says they do, I'm on bullshit.
Speaker 5: Yeah all right, Crystal, tell everybody where they can find
you if you want to be found. If not, just
say goodbye. Tell everybody where. Just anything you want to share,
here's your time.
Speaker 6: I mean I don't I'm still working on all that
other stuff because everybody's been on my my ass. I
will be doing a YouTube eventually. Uh, but you can
find I'm just on TikTok on Facebook right now. I
don't really do a ton. I've got to up my
game according to my people. Who has time for that?
But I'm going to try to make time for it.
But just it's under my name, just Crystal Livings. That's
about it. I mean Facebook and TikTok right now, Instagram.
Speaker 5: But and you talked about the Haunted Investigations episode that
you're on. They can find that on Sling Sling TV.
Speaker 6: I think there's other platforms. But if you go on
and you and you follow Haunted Discoveries on Facebook or
Brandon Elvis or Kevin Aughnie or Mussopha. I'm gonna brecher
his last name, so I'm not gonna say it. You
can see all the updates and now and and Brandon's
really good about dropping what episodes is coming and when
in the date, when they're gonna be live, and when
you and other platforms you can stream it on. You know,
my eleven year old said the same thing the other
day when he was watching my episode. He says, wait
a minute, I didn't even think about that. But yeah,
but they are there a great group of guys. I mean,
I'll plug them right quick because they've been really good
to me. There's something a lot of people are just
not used to you. They're they're doing something that's not normal,
and if you haven't checked them out, you need to
because you're gonna have the scientific approach. You're gonna have
the historical approach, and they and then they're gonna have
the investigation and they're gonna they compile it all together
to try to give you the best that they can
at explaining what's going on. I mean, there's just a
group of guys and girls. And there's girls on there too.
I've worked with girls in there. But they are doing
something that a lot of people have been waiting on.
And and I say that because and I would say that,
I could say that if I hadn't been there and
seen it firsthand. You know, you've got so much stuff
it's fake out there. Just you gotta be careful with that.
But they're doing something different, and I hope that it
does as well as I think it's gonna do, because
it's something that we're needing right now.
Speaker 5: Because similar similar link, and when with this episode goes
out to podcast, which should be next week, I will
be sure to share that link. And we reach a
lot more people via podcast than we do on here
on YouTube, so we'll get their name out there and
try to get them a little more traction.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're doing well. I mean they're just good group
of guys. Like I said, girls, I say guys what
I call God call girls guys. So but yeah, I
mean I'm proud of I'm proud of what they're doing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, very cool, awesome. Yeah, if you don't mind, I
might get with you and see what we can come
up with for how special with the bell Witch days.
Speaker 6: Before my birthday?
Speaker 4: So tell you and better.
Speaker 5: There you go. But again, thank you so very much
Christopher coming and hanging out. You already are a fan favorite.
I can tell uh the comments we're hopping tonight. Great questions.
Thank everybody for being respectful. Thank you man for hanging
out with this and you enjoy the rest of.
Speaker 6: Your evening you too, Thank you, Thank you.
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