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<v Speaker 1>Picture this. You are dropping ten kilometers through the clouds

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<v Speaker 1>over the Pacific Ocean. The g forces are so intense

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<v Speaker 1>they're physically pinning you to the floor of the cabin.

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<v Speaker 1>Right all around you, rivets are just popping off the fuselage.

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<v Speaker 1>It literally sounds like machine gun fire hitting the outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the plane. Oh. Absolutely terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, luggage teapots, people who weren't buckled in. They're just

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<v Speaker 1>flying through the cabin and up in the cockpit, the

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<v Speaker 1>pilots are desperately fighting to regain control of a tumbling

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<v Speaker 1>seven forty seven that is essentially falling right out of

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<v Speaker 1>the sky.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really visceral scene to reconstruct. Honestly, when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the flight data recorder for that exact moment,

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeing an aircraft being pushed far, far beyond its

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<v Speaker 2>aerodynamic limits. I mean, the metal is groaning, the engines.

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<v Speaker 1>Are screaming, welcome to the deep dive. And that terrifying

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<v Speaker 1>scene we just described that wasn't from a movie. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a real flight. Today we're exploring the actual cockpit

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<v Speaker 1>transcripts and the investigative records from five historic commercial aviation

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<v Speaker 1>to disasters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's important to Note this isn't just a

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<v Speaker 2>list of tragedies. We are really on a mission to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out how these million dollar, highly engineered machines are

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<v Speaker 2>brought down by the absolute smallest human errors.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly. We're dissecting this incredibly fragile intersection of human psychology,

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<v Speaker 1>advanced technology, and survival because, as you know from investigating

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<v Speaker 1>these crashes, you rarely find a massive structural failure out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere, right.

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<v Speaker 2>You rarely just lose a wing. You usually find a

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<v Speaker 2>tiny mundane anomaly like a single burnt out light bulb

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<v Speaker 2>or a misplaced switch, or just a really tired pilot,

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<v Speaker 2>and you watch how human nature allows that tiny spark

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<v Speaker 2>to cascade into an absolute catastrophe.

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<v Speaker 1>And how those terrifying moments fundamentally change the way we

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<v Speaker 1>all fly today. Yeah, so let's jump straight into December

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy two Eastern Airlines flight four oh one. They're

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<v Speaker 1>flying an L ten eleven TriStar, which I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>understand was basically a spaceship for its time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it really was the dawn of the jumbo jet era.

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<v Speaker 2>The Tristra was the most advanced passenger jet in the

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<v Speaker 2>world at the time, equipped with these state of the

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<v Speaker 2>art autopilot systems. So they're approaching Miami on a pitch

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<v Speaker 2>black night, and as they lower the landing gear, the

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<v Speaker 2>crew notices a discrepancy the little green indicator light on

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<v Speaker 2>the dashboard, the one that confirms the nose landing gear

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<v Speaker 2>is locked in place. It just hasn't lit.

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<v Speaker 1>Up, So presumably they just abort the landing to figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out, right.

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<v Speaker 2>They do. They put the plane on autopilot to circle

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<v Speaker 2>over the Florida Everglades while they troubleshoot. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>where we witness a classic fatal case of human fixation.

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<v Speaker 2>The captain, the first officer, and the flight engineer, they

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<v Speaker 2>all become entirely consumed by this single indicator light. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>a light bulb that, by the way, cost exactly twelve cents.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, twelve cents. How does a whole passenger plane go

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<v Speaker 1>down over a twelve cent light bulb? I mean, don't

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<v Speaker 1>they have other ways to check if the wheels are

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<v Speaker 1>actually down?

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<v Speaker 2>They do? Yeah, the flight engineer actually climbs down into

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<v Speaker 2>this cramped avion X bay beneath the cockpit floor. They

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<v Speaker 2>literally called it the hellhole. The hell hole, all right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he goes down there to look through a tiny window

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<v Speaker 2>and manually check the gear. But here's the critical failure point.

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<v Speaker 2>Up in the cockpit. The captain is trying to pry

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<v Speaker 2>the light bulb out of the console. It's stuck. He's

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<v Speaker 2>twisting it, he's getting frustrated with it, right, He's distracted completely,

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<v Speaker 2>and as he reaches across, he accidentally bumps the control

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<v Speaker 2>wheel the yoke just a slight, totally unintentional nudge.

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<v Speaker 1>And what does a slight nudge actually do?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? That tiny bump applies just enough force to the

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<v Speaker 2>control column to disengage the altitude hold on their autopilot.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the computer is designed to yield to the human pilot,

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<v Speaker 2>it basically assumes the captain wants to fly manually.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, oh wow, So it just hands over control exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It quietly switches modes.

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<v Speaker 1>But surely they have an alarm for that, right or

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't they physically feel the plane starting to dive?

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<v Speaker 2>You would think so. But the descent was incredibly gradual.

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<v Speaker 2>And because they're flying over the Everglades on a moonless night,

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<v Speaker 2>the environment outside is just avoid There are no city lights,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no visual horizon to reference.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like if you've ever been driving on a dark,

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<v Speaker 1>straight highway at night and your check engine light comes on.

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<v Speaker 1>You start staring at the dashboard, maybe tapping the gauge,

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<v Speaker 1>getting so distracted that you slowly, imperceptibly drift onto the shoulder.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the exact psychology.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, only in the sky, there are no rumble strips

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<v Speaker 1>to wake you up.

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<v Speaker 2>That captures it perfectly. All three highly trained men in

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<v Speaker 2>that cockpit were focused on the twelve cent bulb. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>was watching the altimeter. They had a perfectly functional airplane,

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<v Speaker 2>but literally no one was flying.

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<v Speaker 1>It, and so they crashed right into the swamp. And

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<v Speaker 1>reading through the aftermath, I mean it is just horrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>The plane breaks apart and twenty thousand kilograms of jet

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<v Speaker 1>fuel leaks into the swamp water.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, highly flammable.

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<v Speaker 1>People are sitting there covered in fuel, terrified that a

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<v Speaker 1>single spark is going to ignite the whole swamp. There's

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<v Speaker 1>this incredible detail in the source about a local guy,

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<v Speaker 1>an airboat driver named Bob Marcus, who was just out

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<v Speaker 1>hunting frogs.

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<v Speaker 2>Right he was one of the first on the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>He rushes in, burning his own legs from the jet

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<v Speaker 1>fuel in the water. Just pulling people up so they

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<v Speaker 1>don't drown in the mud.

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<v Speaker 2>And forensic pathology later revealed that the mud itself actually

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<v Speaker 2>posed a secondary, completely unexpected threat to the survivors.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw this in the note something about gas gangreen.

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<v Speaker 1>How does swamp mud cause gas gangreen?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the evergladze mud is extremely rich in certain anaerobic bacteria.

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<v Speaker 2>When passengers suffer deep crush injuries from the impact, those

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<v Speaker 2>wounds were packed with this contaminated mud. And because the

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<v Speaker 2>bacteria thrive in environments without oxygen like deep crush tissue,

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<v Speaker 2>they rapidly multiply.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that sounds awful.

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<v Speaker 2>It is, They produce toxins and gas. It causes gas gangreen,

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<v Speaker 2>which can destroy a limb or even become fatal in

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of days. Doctors had to scramble to find

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<v Speaker 2>hyperbaric oxygen chambers all across Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to treat the survivors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, placing survivors inside the high pressure oxygen tanks just

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<v Speaker 2>to force oxygen deep into their tissues to kill the bacteria.

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<v Speaker 1>And as if this story isn't intense enough, there's this

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre PostScript. The airline actually salvaged intact parts from this

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<v Speaker 1>crashed plane and put them into other jets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, a very controversial decision, and crew started reporting ghost

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<v Speaker 3>sightings like apparitions of the dead Flight four oh one

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<v Speaker 3>crew haunting the planes that had the cannibalized parts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the psychological trauma across the airline was so severe

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<v Speaker 2>that management eventually just quietly removed all those salvage parts.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, if we pull back to the true

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<v Speaker 2>legacy of Flight four oh one, it fundamentally altered aviation

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<v Speaker 2>safety by birthing CRM or crew resource management.

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<v Speaker 1>So how did this crash actually change things in the cockpit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, before nineteen seventy two, cockpit culture was essentially a

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<v Speaker 2>military dictatorship. The captain's word was absolute law. So if

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<v Speaker 2>the captain was fixated in a light bulb, everybody else

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<v Speaker 2>focused on the light bulb.

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<v Speaker 1>Cowbody questions the boss exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But Flight four oh one proved that hierarchy can be fatal.

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<v Speaker 2>CRM mandated a collaborative model. Today, tasks must be explicitly delegated.

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<v Speaker 2>If a captain wants to troubleshoot an issue, he has

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<v Speaker 2>to verbally declare to the copilot you have the aircraft.

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<v Speaker 1>So someone is always assigned to monitor the horizon and

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<v Speaker 1>actually fly.

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<v Speaker 2>The plane precisely. Someone is always flying, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So flight four oh one was a crew that was

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<v Speaker 1>physically totally fine but mentally distracted. What happens when the

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<v Speaker 1>crew's brains are physically compromised, Which brings us to Helios

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<v Speaker 1>Airways flight five twenty two in August two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is one of the most chilling investigations in

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<v Speaker 2>modern aviation. It became known as the ghost plane. It

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<v Speaker 2>circled over Athens Grease in total radia silence for over

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<v Speaker 2>an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Over an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the Greek military actually scrambled two F sixteen finer

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<v Speaker 2>jets to intercept it because they feared it was a hijacking.

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<v Speaker 1>How does a modern jet just become a ghost ship

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<v Speaker 1>with everybody on board.

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<v Speaker 2>It all traces back to a very mundane maintenance check.

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<v Speaker 2>A ground engineer had run a routine test on the

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<v Speaker 2>aircraft's pressurization system earlier that morning, and to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>he flipped the pressurization dial to manual. But when he finished,

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<v Speaker 2>he just forgot to flip it back to auto.

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<v Speaker 1>And the flight crew just didn't touch it.

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<v Speaker 2>They missed it during their pre flight checks. So as

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<v Speaker 2>the plane climbed into the sky, the system did exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what it was told nothing. The cabin did not pressurize.

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<v Speaker 2>The air inside simply got thinner and thinner as they

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<v Speaker 1>Now Here is where I really have to push back

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<v Speaker 1>on the design of this plane. As they're climbing, an

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<v Speaker 1>alarm starts blaring, right, But the alarm warning them that

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<v Speaker 1>the cabin isn't pressurizing. He sounds exactly the same as

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<v Speaker 1>the takeoff configuration warning. That's right, which is an alarm

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<v Speaker 1>that tells you your flaps are wrong when you're still

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground. Why on earth what an alarm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you you're suffocating sound identical to an alarm telling you

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<v Speaker 1>you're not ready to drive down the runway. That is

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<v Speaker 1>just terrible design.

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<v Speaker 2>You're touching on a fundamental flaw in human machine interface

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<v Speaker 2>design of that era. From a purely logical engineering standpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>it made perfect sense. A takeoff warning only physically triggers

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground, a cabin pressure warning only physically triggers

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<v Speaker 2>in the air. Okay, Sure, so the machine's computer knows

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<v Speaker 2>the context, it knows where.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, but the human doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly to a human brain an alarm is just a loud,

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<v Speaker 2>blaring horn, and when you were certainly being starved of oxygen,

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<v Speaker 2>your brain completely loses the ability to parse that context.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're running out of air, wouldn't you feel

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<v Speaker 1>yourself choking. Wouldn't you gasp for breath and realize, oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>we need oxygen.

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<v Speaker 2>You would think so. But that's the insidious nature of hypoxia.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like holding your breath under water. You are

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<v Speaker 2>still breathing in gas, but because of the high altitude,

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<v Speaker 2>there just isn't enough atmospheric pressure to force the oxygen

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<v Speaker 2>into your bloodstream.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't feel suffocated, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead, hypoxia acts like a subtle intoxican. You might feel

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<v Speaker 2>little giddy, your ears pop, and then your cognitive functions

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<v Speaker 2>just rapidly and silently degrade, so you just get confused,

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<v Speaker 2>severely confused. Hypoxia destroys your ability to reason or think. Laterally,

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<v Speaker 2>when the master caution light illuminated on that flight, the

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<v Speaker 2>captain assumed it was an equipment cooling issue. We actually

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<v Speaker 2>have transcripts of him on the radio, slurring his words,

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<v Speaker 2>asking ground control about circuit breakers located behind his seat.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, he is hyperfixating on a non existent

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<v Speaker 2>electrical problem while he is actively running out of air.

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<v Speaker 2>Within minutes, the pilots simply passed out at.

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<v Speaker 1>The controls, but the passenger oxygen masks drop right. I

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<v Speaker 1>read those only supply chemical oxygen for about twelve minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was no pilot flying, so the plane just

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<v Speaker 1>And when the fighter pilots look into the windows of

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<v Speaker 2>That was Andreas Perdromo. He was a twenty five year

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<v Speaker 1>How is he the only one awake?

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<v Speaker 2>The investigation suggests his background played a role. He was

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<v Speaker 1>That is heroic, but he couldn't save it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's agonizing to study. Really. Prodroma actually held a commercial

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<v Speaker 2>a massive jet he wasn't rated to fly right.

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<v Speaker 1>A seven point thirty seven is a lot different than

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<v Speaker 2>Sestinat exactly and worse, the plane's left engine had already

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<v Speaker 2>but the dial was still tuned to the departure airport

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<v Speaker 2>in Cyprus, completely out of range. The second engine died

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<v Speaker 1>It's devastating. Hypoxias starves the brain of oxygen and ruins

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<v Speaker 1>its ability to reason. But it turns out you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even you need to starve the brain of bear to

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<v Speaker 1>make it fail. You just need to starve it of sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>which brings us to the terrifying phenomenon of trusting computers

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<v Speaker 2>This leads us directly back to the falling seven four

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so they're cruising over the Pacific and engine number

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<v Speaker 1>four flames out. It just dies. What actually starts that

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<v Speaker 2>The captain's response. When you lose an engine on one

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<v Speaker 2>side of an aircraft, you develop what's called asymmetrical thrust.

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<v Speaker 2>The working engines are pushing hard and the dead engine

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<v Speaker 2>is just dragging right, So the plane naturally wants to

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<v Speaker 2>yaw or twist toward the dead engine. To counter this,

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<v Speaker 2>a pilot must manually press the rudder pedals to keep

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<v Speaker 2>the nose straight. But this captain didn't. He left the

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that a problem? Though? Isn't the autopilot designed

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<v Speaker 2>It is, but the autopilot on that specific generation of

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<v Speaker 2>seven forty seven could only control the aile. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>and right. It had no physical connection to the rudder.

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<v Speaker 2>It simply wasn't built to compensate for asymmetrical thrust on

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like trying to row a canoe in a

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly straight line using only one paddle while a massive

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<v Speaker 1>how hard, you paddle, You're gonna spin.

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<v Speaker 2>Precisely, the autopilot was fighting a losing battle. Eventually it

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<v Speaker 2>ran out of aerodynamic authority and the mass of seven

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven slowly gradually rolled over onto his back.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to stop you there. How do three train

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<v Speaker 1>pilots sit in a cockpit and not feel gravity flipping

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<v Speaker 1>them upside down? Doesn't your inner ear scream at you

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<v Speaker 1>that you were falling.

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<v Speaker 2>You are describing the exact trap of spatial disorientation. Your

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<v Speaker 2>inner ear detects acceleration and gravity using fluid in small canals.

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<v Speaker 2>But if an aircraft rolls very very slowly, that fluid

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<v Speaker 2>stabilizes and your body doesn't register the rotation. That is wild.

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<v Speaker 2>And once they were upside down and dropping, the massive

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<v Speaker 2>g forces pined them firmly down into their seats. To

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<v Speaker 2>their inner ears, that pressure felt exactly like normal upright gravity.

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<v Speaker 1>So when they looked at the attitude indicator, the digital

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<v Speaker 1>screen telling them they were inverted, what did they think?

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<v Speaker 2>They assumed the screen was broken. Their physical sensations were

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<v Speaker 2>lying to them so convincingly that their brains rejected the

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<v Speaker 2>instrument readings entirely.

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<v Speaker 1>And they fall thirty thousand feet g forces pinning the

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<v Speaker 1>flight engineer so hard he literally can't lift his head

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<v Speaker 1>to check the dials. They are tearing the landing gear

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<v Speaker 1>doors off just from the sheer speed of the dive,

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<v Speaker 1>and they only survive because they break through the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the clouds at ninety five hundred feet, see the

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<v Speaker 1>physical ocean and realize, oh, the instrument's were right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they managed a miraculous recovery and landed safely. But

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<v Speaker 2>the investigative question remains, why were they so reliant on

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<v Speaker 2>the autopilot and so slow to process the instrument failure

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<v Speaker 2>in the first place. Fatigue, severe desynchronosis or jet lag.

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<v Speaker 2>The captain had crossed eighteen time zones in six days.

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<v Speaker 2>His biological clock was screaming that it was two point

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<v Speaker 2>zero z. When your brain is that fatigued, your reaction

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<v Speaker 2>time plummets and your reliance on automation skyrockets.

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<v Speaker 1>Which brings up the other fatigue case. We looked at

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<v Speaker 1>Korean Air flight eight h one in Guam in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven, another exhausted pilot on a rainy night, and

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<v Speaker 1>here the airport's glide slope beacon, the electronic beam that

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<v Speaker 1>guides planes down to the runway was broken.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so the crew had to fly a non precision approach,

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<v Speaker 2>relying on a distance measuring beacon that was actually located

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<v Speaker 2>five kilometers away from the runway rather than at the

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<v Speaker 2>runway threshold itself.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're flying tired, trusting instruments. You rid the phrase

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<v Speaker 1>backside of the clock flying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it refers to flying during the deep hours of

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<v Speaker 2>In that state, your visual processing and situational awareness heavily.

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<v Speaker 1>Degrade, and the pilot fixates on his glide slope indicator

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<v Speaker 1>inside the cockpit. The transmitter on the ground is turned off,

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<v Speaker 1>but his needle is flickering, probably picking up stray radio

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<v Speaker 1>interference or something likely. Yes, he fixates on that phantom needle,

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<v Speaker 1>completely zones out, and flies the plane straight into Nimt's

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<v Speaker 1>hill miles short of the runway. Good wait. Air traffic

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<v Speaker 1>control has radar. Why didn't someone on the ground yell

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<v Speaker 2>Because of a chilling administrative failure, the FAA had a

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<v Speaker 2>system called Minimum Safe Altitude Warning or MSAW. It acts

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<v Speaker 2>as an electronic safety net, tracking radar returns and blaring

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<v Speaker 2>an alarm to the controller if an aircraft drops dangerously low,

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<v Speaker 2>but the FAA had intentionally disabled it for approaching planes in.

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<v Speaker 1>Guam, disabled it by who why?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if the software was generating occasional false alarms and

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<v Speaker 2>the air traffic controllers found the alerts annoying, annoy yes, annoying,

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<v Speaker 2>So management reconfigured the software to only monitor aircraft that

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<v Speaker 2>were eighty kilometers out over the open ocean, essentially rendering

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<v Speaker 2>it totally useless for planes actually trying to land. If

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<v Speaker 2>that software hadn't been modified just for convenience, an alarm

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<v Speaker 2>would have sounded, the controller would have intervened in flight

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<v Speaker 2>eight oh one would have been saved.

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<v Speaker 1>That is just maddening turning off a life saving safety

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<v Speaker 1>system because it's a nuisance. Okay, we've explored how human

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<v Speaker 1>exhaustion and mechanical misunderstanding cause crashes, But what about when

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<v Speaker 1>a crash is totally unavoidable due to weather. How do

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<v Speaker 2>That brings us to an absolute master class in survival engineering.

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<v Speaker 2>Air France Flight three point fifty eight in Toronto, August

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<v Speaker 1>The scene here is apocalyptic. They are landing during a

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<v Speaker 1>top hat thunderstorm. What exactly makes that so dangerous?

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<v Speaker 2>A top hat thunderstorm is a massive, rapidly developing storm

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<v Speaker 2>cell with a flat, anvil like top. They are incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>violent and produce severe microbursts. Those are sudden, localized columns

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<v Speaker 2>of sinking air that hit the ground and spread out,

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<v Speaker 2>creating massive, unpredictable wind cheer.

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<v Speaker 1>And right as they're landing, lightning strikes the airport, destroying

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<v Speaker 1>the ground wind sensors, so the pilots are flying blind

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<v Speaker 1>into a massive thirty three not crosswind. They touch down

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<v Speaker 1>way too fast, almost half way down the shortest runway

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<v Speaker 1>at the airport.

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<v Speaker 2>And critically, because they were fighting to keep the plane straight,

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<v Speaker 2>the pilots didn't engage the thrust reversers, the engine flaps

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<v Speaker 2>that help break the plane for seventeen crucial seconds at

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<v Speaker 2>landing speeds. Seventeen seconds eats up thousands of feet of pavement,

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<v Speaker 2>So they.

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<v Speaker 1>Just slide right off the end of the runway and

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<v Speaker 1>plunge into a fifty foot ravine. The fuselage breaks open,

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<v Speaker 1>the plane catches fire. But here's the incredible part. Two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety seven passengers and crew are inside a burning,

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<v Speaker 1>smoke filled tube, and they all get out, everyone survives.

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<v Speaker 2>It's remarkable. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You hear about this ninety second rule in aviation all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, But in a burning cabin with toxic fumes,

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<v Speaker 1>people panicking, scrambling over seats, how is that physically possible?

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<v Speaker 2>It is possible because of decades of frankly, blood soaked

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<v Speaker 2>interior engineering. The ninety second threshold isn't just an arbitrary goal.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the physical limit dictated by a phenomenon called flashover.

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<v Speaker 1>How does flashover work?

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<v Speaker 2>When a fire, which is a cabin, the materials start

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<v Speaker 2>to heat up, the seat foams, the plastics, the overhead bins,

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<v Speaker 2>they all begin off gassing highly toxic combustible smoke. That

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<v Speaker 2>smoke pools at the ceiling right.

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<v Speaker 1>Heat rises exactly as.

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<v Speaker 2>The radiant heat builds. It eventually reaches into ignition temperature,

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<v Speaker 2>where every single combustible gas in the cabin ignites simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>That is flash over. After that moment, the environment is

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<v Speaker 2>completely unsurvivable. Every fire retardant fabric, every floor track light,

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<v Speaker 2>every specialized door hingte you see on a plane is

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<v Speaker 2>mathematically engineered to delay flashover, and by you exactly those

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<v Speaker 2>ninety seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>That is incredible engineering, but dropping a plane into a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty foot ravine is still insane. I was reading the

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<v Speaker 1>case files and there is a technology that exists specifically

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<v Speaker 1>to stop planes from sliding off runways like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, emas engineered material arresting systems.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine a runaway truck ramp on a steep mountain highway.

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<v Speaker 2>E May is basically a massive bed of crushable aerated

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<v Speaker 2>concrete blocks play at the end of a runway. If

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<v Speaker 2>a heavy jet overshoots the pavement, it rolls into this material.

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<v Speaker 1>So it just sinks in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, the tires immediately sink in and the concrete crushes,

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<v Speaker 2>absorbing the aircraft's forward kinetic energy. It can stop a

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<v Speaker 2>massive jet safely in a very short distance without tearing

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<v Speaker 1>But the airport in Toronto didn't have it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because of space limitations and high costs, many international

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<v Speaker 2>airports push back against installing it. Safety is a constant,

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<v Speaker 2>frustrating battle between what is technologically possible and what bureaucracies

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<v Speaker 1>So bringing all these incredible investigations together, commercial aviation today

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<v Speaker 1>is statistically the safest way to travel, but that safety

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<v Speaker 1>is quite literally written in blood. We fly safer today

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<v Speaker 1>because a crew once fixated on a twelve cent light bulb.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely because a.

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<v Speaker 1>Manual pressurization switch was left in the wrong position, because

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<v Speaker 1>a bureaucratic decision turned off an annoying safety alarm.

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<v Speaker 2>Every procedure, every checklist, and every redundant computer system in

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<v Speaker 2>a modern cockpit exists because an ax an investigator trace

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<v Speaker 2>a tragedy back to human frailty. The entire aviation system

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<v Speaker 2>is now designed to catch the inevitable human error before

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<v Speaker 2>it cascades into a disaster, which brings.

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<v Speaker 1>Up a thought I want to leave with anyone listening,

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<v Speaker 1>think about your own daily life. We spend this whole

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<v Speaker 1>time talking about highly trained pilots falling victim to automation complacency,

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<v Speaker 1>trusting the computers so much that they forget how to

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<v Speaker 1>fly the plane. But look at the tech we rely

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<v Speaker 1>on every day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We drive cars with autopilot and line assist. We rely

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<v Speaker 1>on AI to write our emails, analyze our data, and

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<v Speaker 1>manage our schedules.

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<v Speaker 2>We are rapidly outsourcing our cognitive load to machines, and

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<v Speaker 2>as we've seen, technology is brittle. It works flawlessly until

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<v Speaker 2>it encounters a variable it just wasn't programmed for exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>We are all becoming passengers in our own highly automated lives.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the tech in your life suddenly disengages and

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<v Speaker 1>the metaphorical alarms start blaring, will you still know how

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<v Speaker 1>to fly the plane? Thank you for joining us on

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<v Speaker 1>this deep dive. Stay curious, and we'll catch toue next time.
