WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:03.160 Okay, we are live. Hi. This is William Ramsey. Welcome 2 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:06.360 to William Ramsey investigates on today's show. A very special guest, 3 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:08.519 returning guest. His name is Nick Bryant, to be R. 4 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:11.759 Y Ant if you're listening to my show. He was 5 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:14.599 on it last year and what was called we did 6 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:20.679 titled it The Epstein Justice. And this was in July eighteenth, 7 00:00:20.800 --> 00:00:24.519 twenty twenty five. So it was just like supposedly the 8 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:28.280 files worth here on Bondi's desk. Well a lot has changed. 9 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:31.079 These files have come out only three point five million 10 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:35.119 of the six million. Blanche specifically said he left stuff 11 00:00:35.119 --> 00:00:39.000 out that involved see Sam child, porn, torture and murder. 12 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:42.079 So who knows what's in those files. There are rumors 13 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:44.719 that some people have hacked them. I don't know. I 14 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:48.960 haven't seen it yet. But Nick is back on the show. 15 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:52.920 There's a lot to talk about. And there's his website. 16 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:55.280 It's Epstein Justice dot com. Check it out. I was 17 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:58.119 reading through it today. A lot of interesting people, like 18 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:00.960 a name that I remember she's involved from that Franklin 19 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:04.400 scander is Alicia Owens, who got put through the ringer 20 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:09.000 like in a most contradictory way you would think, you know, 21 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:13.359 not in conformance with justice at all. And also Ellen 22 00:01:13.439 --> 00:01:15.920 Acter we were talking in the pre show. I actually 23 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:19.239 just reposted an interview with her. She's on the board 24 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:21.840 or a board of advisors of Epstein Justice. I just 25 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:24.840 reposted a show for hers with Viz from the Grassy 26 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:27.719 Knol about SRA, So people can go back and check 27 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:32.239 that out. I highly recommend that. But Nick Brian has 28 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:34.760 written so many books. He's done a lot of different authors. 29 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:39.840 He's written journalism. He's co authored America's Children Trying for Tragedy. 30 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:43.120 He also wrote, like I mentioned, the Franklin Scandal, a 31 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:47.799 story of powerbrokers, child abuse and betrayal. He's written or 32 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:51.920 contributed to chapter on child trafficking, which is very pertinent 33 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:55.519 to Epstein. He's also the co author of Confessions of 34 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:58.319 a DC Madam, The Politics of sex lives in Blackmail. 35 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:01.359 He also wrote a book about Watergate. I think that's 36 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:04.280 his most recent book. And his mainstream work has appeared 37 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:07.920 in USA Today, Playboy, Salon, The Twin Cities Reader, Vanity Fair, 38 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:12.360 New York, gear Goker, The Shear Post, any other publications. 39 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.240 So he's been around for a long time. But his 40 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:17.520 books I was looking through them on Amazon today. They 41 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:20.759 all have stellar reviews. So go check out those books 42 00:02:21.039 --> 00:02:24.479 and also check out this website. It's still happening. We're 43 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:26.599 talking in the pre show that this Epstein is not 44 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:29.439 going away. The Epstein Files are very important. I consider 45 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:32.919 them an extremely important event, the release of them, even 46 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:36.639 through the massive amount of redactions. But Nick can talk 47 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:38.479 more about that. So Nick, welcome back to the show. 48 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:39.960 It's great to be with you. Walliam. 49 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:42.840 For people who may not have heard of our last 50 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:45.759 heard our last show, maybe you can talk about your 51 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:48.840 involvement Epstein and this, I mean it goes back to 52 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:52.360 the Franklin cover up, but also this kind of like 53 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.120 network of abuse that's going on, and this is the 54 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:59.400 Epstein Files really reveal a network of massive abuse. And 55 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:01.960 it didn't just involve young girls, which it did, but 56 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:05.240 there are there's some stuff that I saw in there 57 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:08.680 that involved children under ten, and I don't want to 58 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:11.479 get too graphic, but it's in the civil litigation files. 59 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:16.479 It's really it's just shocking. It's just absolutely outrageous. But 60 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:18.639 maybe you can talk about that. When led up to 61 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:19.800 Epstein Justice. 62 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:25.000 I started researching a book that would ultimately come the 63 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:28.199 Franklin Scandal, a story Powerbrokers show to be some betrayal 64 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:33.000 in two thousand and two, two thousand and three, and 65 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:36.520 I was pretty stunned when I came across that network 66 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:40.159 because it had been so immaculately covered up by federal 67 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:45.280 and state law enforcement, and it was just the antithesis 68 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:48.039 of what I thought law enforcement should be doing. Law 69 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:51.199 enforcement should be putting child molesters in prison for a 70 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:55.759 very long time. But in the case of the Franklin scandal, 71 00:03:56.039 --> 00:03:59.360 it was the victims who refused to recant their abuse 72 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:04.080 that were on perjury charges. And Alicia Owen, who is 73 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:08.319 an associate director of Epstein Justice, she was indicted on 74 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:12.400 eight concept state grand jury and eight concert purjury from 75 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:14.840 a federal grand jury, so she was looking at two 76 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:18.279 hundred years in prison and she said, I was trafficked 77 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:22.480 as an adolescent and I'm not going to recant those 78 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:27.199 accounts of abuse. And at kangaroo court found her guilty. 79 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:30.000 Now we're talking to kid. She wasn't died when she 80 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:34.720 was like twenty, been trafficked in her early adolescent and 81 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:41.600 she was sentenced between nine and fifteen years in perjury 82 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:46.680 for perjury a kid and the authorities really tried to 83 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:50.279 destroy her by putting her in solitary for nearly two years. 84 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:53.800 Wow, that's torture. Yeah, it's considered torture, I think by 85 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:54.199 the u N. 86 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:59.879 And so I wrote the Franklin Scandal. I spent seven years. 87 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:03.600 I knew that that was it was a unique story, 88 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:07.959 and it was a horrific story, and I felt like 89 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:11.399 the bar had to be very high as far as 90 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:15.360 journalistic integrity. And I spent seven years on it, and 91 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:18.920 I went about as deep into that reality as someone 92 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:23.600 can go as a journalist. And we published a book 93 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:27.079 in two thousand and nine, twenty ten, and it was 94 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:31.399 a message that people didn't want to hear. They did 95 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:35.920 not want to believe that the federal and state government 96 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:41.040 government of Nebraska covered up child sex trafficking. When you 97 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:43.240 cover up a crime, you're eighty and betting that crime. 98 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:45.560 So people just did not want to believe that the 99 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:50.800 government could possibly involve with eighty betting child traffed. So 100 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:56.160 the book got published and we couldn't really get anybody 101 00:05:56.279 --> 00:06:02.480 to read it. And now on the Internet, there were 102 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:05.360 a number of people that talked about the Franklin scandal, 103 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:11.759 but it had been enmeshed with shape shifting repillions and 104 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:16.399 the Illuminati and things like that, and they wanted they 105 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:19.879 didn't because I really worked hard at debunking what I 106 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:24.759 thought was apocryphal too, about what's been going on with 107 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:29.800 it as it sponsored on the internet. So that book 108 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:35.720 came out, and the conspiracy theory or a conspiracists I 109 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:38.800 didn't sorry I used that word conspiracy they like, But 110 00:06:38.839 --> 00:06:44.160 the conspiracists had their own version of the Franklin scandal 111 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:49.040 that they embraced, that it did include shape shifting repellions 112 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:55.399 and things like that, and then people that weren't conspiratorial 113 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:59.519 at all just thought it was I mean, they couldn't 114 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:03.439 imagine it. No one in my family read the Franklin 115 00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:05.439 scan well, actually, no one in my family reads any 116 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:09.839 of my books. But so I was hurting from that. 117 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:12.879 I'd put seven years of my life into that. I'd 118 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:19.199 made a lot of sacrifices. And about two years later, 119 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:25.439 I had heard about Jeffrey Epstein molesting various girls in 120 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:30.560 Palm Beach, and I'd also heard that a stake rand 121 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:36.079 jury declared that he hadn't molested a single child. So 122 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:39.720 and that's what happened in the Franklin Scan So I 123 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:42.639 didn't really want to check it out, but I knew 124 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:46.759 so much about this realm at that point. Then I 125 00:07:46.800 --> 00:07:50.360 went down to Florida and started knocking on doors and 126 00:07:50.399 --> 00:07:54.839 doing the things that journalists do, and I ultimately got 127 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:59.519 Jeffrey Epstein's Black Boar, and it had all his addresses, 128 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:02.839 all his friends and their addresses and numbers. I mean, 129 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:06.720 I could have called Bill Clinton, I could have called 130 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:09.839 Nick Chagter. There's a lot of people I could have 131 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:13.600 called ones when I got the Black Book. But when 132 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:18.680 I got it at the end of sessions, it's massage 133 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:23.839 and that's his euphemism for underage girls mostly, And I 134 00:08:23.879 --> 00:08:29.240 started to call the underaged girls. And the first conversation 135 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:34.240 was kind of strange because I was talking to this 136 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:38.399 girl's mother and the girl was in the room and 137 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:44.080 she was relaying what I was asking and her name 138 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:48.399 was last year. I won't say her name, but she 139 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:52.440 said that she had been trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein when 140 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:55.440 she was thirteen years old. And then I called up 141 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:57.759 another woman who said that she'd been flown around and 142 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:02.720 actually flown to an island. And at that point I 143 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:06.799 knew I was dealing with a network like the Franklin 144 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:11.679 scanal network, and actually Epstein in many ways is a 145 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:13.679 carbon copy of the Franklin Scanner. 146 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:18.399 Did you find any overlaps of people involved in Epstein 147 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:19.440 and Franklin? 148 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:27.159 I did not. Franklin was primarily Republicans molesting little boys 149 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:32.279 and Epstein is primarily Democrats molesting little girls. So that 150 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:39.559 seems to be the partisan divide in our political system. 151 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:39.679 Right, So that was the big thing, and they actually 152 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:41.639 mentioned it in the files. I'm trying to find the 153 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:44.799 file right now. But like they were aware Epstein when 154 00:09:44.799 --> 00:09:47.639 you published that book through Gawker, Right, isn't that right? 155 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:52.240 They were aware in the emails of that publication and 156 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.159 they knew it was redacted. I'm trying to find it 157 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:58.080 right now. But have you seen that one email between. 158 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:03.200 I did Peter Tail. Well, actually there was an initial 159 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:06.159 email because I was down there and once I kind 160 00:10:06.159 --> 00:10:09.960 of concluded that Jeffrey Epstein was running a trafficking network, 161 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:15.080 I started to call his inner circle and only one 162 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:19.000 person answered, and that was Sarah Kellen and I tried 163 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:21.200 to talk to her, but she was telling me how 164 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:25.559 mean the Maybia had been to her. And Sarah was 165 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:28.679 integral to the machine that destroyed all these children. She 166 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:33.320 was Glenn Maxwell's right hand woman, so I really wasn't 167 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:38.279 able to commiserate with her, and I think she sensed 168 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:42.080 relatively quickly that I wasn't able to commiserate with her, 169 00:10:42.200 --> 00:10:46.519 So that phone call didn't last, right line. But then 170 00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:51.279 it came out in this latest trans of documents that 171 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:55.480 someone in their name is redacted sent an email to 172 00:10:55.559 --> 00:11:02.399 Jeffrey Epstein's inner circle warning about me Bryant. And they 173 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:05.080 even had my picture that they were passing around. So 174 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:06.639 I got a kick out of that. 175 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:09.600 Right, So you're in these files. 176 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:12.080 I am in the files, but in a good way. 177 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:13.919 I'm one of the few people that are in the 178 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:16.799 files with no shame in my game. 179 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:21.399 Right. And here it is, they're talking about the Gawker suit. 180 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:25.840 This is twenty sixteen, and Jeffrey tells Teal, I would 181 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:30.200 have gladly shared your expenses for the Gawker suit Chomsky 182 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:34.159 Friday dinner forew in New York. That's from jeff to Teal. 183 00:11:34.360 --> 00:11:38.840 Actually there's a there's an email from Maxwell to Epstein saying, 184 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:41.159 Matt Gowker just published your address book. 185 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:44.080 I'm trying to find it. I have a lot my 186 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:49.159 files aren't in great organizational shape, but yeah, there is. 187 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:51.679 You're right, I mean it's so they knew about you, 188 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:57.519 basically they did. Indeed, here it is right here, Gocker 189 00:11:57.559 --> 00:12:01.720 have printed the entire book, albeit redacted, I think is 190 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:02.279 what it is. 191 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:08.639 We redacted. We redacted the numbers of the adults, and 192 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.679 we redacted the last names and numbers of the victims. 193 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:19.000 We went about it ethically. There it is. Yeah, and 194 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:22.200 it's funny. Someone was accusing me of being in the 195 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:25.639 CIA the other day on social media, and I said, 196 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:31.399 you know, would a CIA guy publish Jeffrey Emstein's Black 197 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:34.159 Book unredacted? And by that point I had flight logs too, 198 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:38.440 and we didn't redact the flight logs. It seems to 199 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:40.879 me that that would be counterproductive for someone in the 200 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:41.799 CIA to do that. 201 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:46.240 Yeah, I get I get the intel accusation too. I 202 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:49.159 wouldn't last in CIA anyway. 203 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:50.759 Yeah. 204 00:12:50.919 --> 00:12:54.000 Just these that you're in there and then these there's 205 00:12:54.080 --> 00:12:57.159 just so many connections and revelations like it must have 206 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:01.080 like a curtain rolled up like for you to see 207 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:04.200 the broad The way that it was represented to the 208 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:07.159 public is jeff is just a loan pedophile, and I 209 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:09.320 think that was it, like, hey, he's a pedophile. Now 210 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:11.600 he's gone, and that's it. But that's not the case. 211 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:14.840 He was in communication with so many people, and he 212 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:20.000 was really almost like a social media overuser or something 213 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:22.799 like texting and sending stuff and on I Message and 214 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:24.919 things like that. I mean, did you find that to 215 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:26.279 be the case in the files? 216 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:30.120 Well, the thing about Ebstein is you got to keep 217 00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:33.480 in mind that I've been investigating him since twenty eleven, 218 00:13:34.279 --> 00:13:38.240 and I knew about the sadistic pedophiles, and I also 219 00:13:38.320 --> 00:13:40.279 knew that there were girls under the age of ten 220 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:47.320 that were trafficked. So this information, I mean, there has 221 00:13:47.559 --> 00:13:50.559 certainly been information that's been revelatory to me, but this 222 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:54.720 information that I've just disclosed is not revelatory to me 223 00:13:54.919 --> 00:13:57.360 because I knew that that was part of the network, 224 00:13:57.519 --> 00:14:00.960 and with the Franklin that were we saw that too, 225 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:07.919 extremely sadistic pedophiles. And the two guys that ran the 226 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:14.720 Franklin network, Lawrence King and Craig Spence, they liked pubescent boys, 227 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:16.720 but if you wanted a seven year old or an 228 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:19.559 eight year old, they'd give you a seven year old 229 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:22.399 or eight year old. And the same was true with Maxwell. 230 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:31.279 And I've seen people that traffic, especially children, and generally 231 00:14:31.279 --> 00:14:35.679 people that just traffic other people are psychopaths. They do 232 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:40.080 not have a moral barometer, they do not have compunction. 233 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:42.159 So if you want a seven year old or an 234 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:44.240 eight year old, they'll be more than happy to give 235 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:44.919 you what you want. 236 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.519 It's in there, guys. We don haven't seen all the files, 237 00:14:49.559 --> 00:14:51.480 and some of the stuff that kind of seep through 238 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:55.039 is very disturbing. It's like there's like film they were 239 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:59.480 filming under like under ten, according to the allegations in 240 00:14:59.559 --> 00:15:04.399 one so case, filming young five year old see Sam 241 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:07.320 at the mansion in New York. That's just one thing 242 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:12.159 that came through. So it's probably even worse, Like there's 243 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:14.240 all kinds of code words that were using at Zoro 244 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:19.000 Ranch and statements, so it's very very dark. There was 245 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:20.960 one of the interesting things that I saw in the 246 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:24.559 files that I found interesting was somebody's statement where Jeff 247 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:29.279 had no conscience, like he didn't have like a no guilt, 248 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:31.600 he had a zero guilt. He didn't feel guilty about 249 00:15:31.639 --> 00:15:34.279 anything he did. It's just like you said, psychopath is 250 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:36.679 the right word. I think it's the right word. Like, 251 00:15:36.720 --> 00:15:38.080 these people are psycho. 252 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:43.200 And that's why it's so hard to understand them in 253 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:47.799 a way, because the life that they live is the 254 00:15:47.879 --> 00:15:51.720 antithesis of the life that most of us live. Most 255 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:55.279 of us are constrained by our conscience, and we feel 256 00:15:55.279 --> 00:16:00.240 guilt and we feel shamed. But people like that don't. 257 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:02.720 They don't feel guilt. I mean, they're not constrained by 258 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:06.000 their conscience. And I've been writing about them for a 259 00:16:06.080 --> 00:16:10.279 number of years, But even the Epstein files, there were 260 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:12.279 there were some things that kicked me in the gut 261 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:14.559 that kind of took me by surprise. 262 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:21.840 And I thought to myself, Wow, there was a Mark 263 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:27.679 Tremil was a UCLA neuroscientist and he had an MD 264 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:28.600 and a PhD. 265 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:32.399 And he wrote an email to Epstein about how to 266 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:38.240 optimize an infant's sucking ability. And that was kind of 267 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:42.759 a gut punch right there, right that was you know, 268 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:48.000 I just went like, WHOA an infant? So these people 269 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:51.759 are twisted. And I'm glad that Mark Tremil will no 270 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:53.159 longer be with U c l A. 271 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:55.840 Oh really, so he's not working there anymore. 272 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:57.559 He's done, he's done. 273 00:16:58.039 --> 00:17:02.600 Wow, this has been kind of a global conflagration because 274 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:04.839 a lot of people have been filed. This actually has 275 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:08.440 geopolitical consequences too, No big. 276 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:10.480 Time geopolitical consequences. 277 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:12.039 Can you talk about that? 278 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:20.519 Well, Jeffrey Epstein was an arms dealer and he and 279 00:17:20.559 --> 00:17:28.480 a hud Barak, the psycho Bobbsey twins, they did an 280 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:33.119 arms deal in Mongolia. And the people that Jeffrey Epstein 281 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:35.720 got to take part in that arms dell like the 282 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:41.000 foreign prime Minister of his of well, hud Barack is 283 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:43.079 a foreign prime minister is but they got a foreigner 284 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:47.599 prize Prime Minister of Australia, the foregn Prime Minister of Norway, 285 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:50.799 who actually tried to kill himself when he found out 286 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:54.960 about his name being in the Epstein files. But EPs 287 00:17:55.200 --> 00:17:58.119 was able to put these types of people together and 288 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:01.680 he did that to work out the arms deal with Mongolia, 289 00:18:02.559 --> 00:18:11.759 and they sold a heavy duty surveillance system to Ivory Coast, 290 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:16.599 the dictator of Ivory Coast, and there was a UN 291 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:23.039 embargo on anything that had to do with arms or 292 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:29.400 surveillance against Ivory Coast. But then who Barank came to 293 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:34.240 New York and Epstein had like a bunch of luminaries 294 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:38.240 awaiting him and they were able to get that embargo 295 00:18:38.319 --> 00:18:42.759 from the UN retracted, so they could sell that. Essentially, 296 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:46.200 they could sell Big Brother to an African dictator and 297 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:53.200 they did the same thing in Nigeria. So yes, definitely, 298 00:18:54.440 --> 00:18:58.359 Jeffrey Epstein was influencing geopolitical movement. 299 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:03.440 Right and influence. They were talking about Ukraine, his investments 300 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:05.440 and things like that. This is from the two thousand 301 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:10.480 and seven docs. But this guy part Pivar says. Clevar 302 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:12.799 stated Epstein does not always tell the truth and lacks 303 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:16.440 a guilt. Gene Epstein is not a good person. Describe 304 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:22.359 them as a contrarian. That's an old one. But yeah, 305 00:19:22.359 --> 00:19:24.559 there's just a lot of stuff. I wish I could 306 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:26.799 find this one, this trama when I saw that. 307 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:34.680 Yeah, that woman is chilling. I've been subjected to this 308 00:19:34.839 --> 00:19:37.720 type of material for a very long time, but I 309 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:40.160 found the trama to be chilling. 310 00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:43.160 And there's others from the civil litigation of like women 311 00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:48.000 say are girls, teens saying I'm a baby incubator and 312 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:50.519 where's my baby and things like that. That's from the 313 00:19:50.519 --> 00:19:54.920 civil litigation files. Where are those children? And why did 314 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:58.359 Jeffrey have a what do you call it? One of 315 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:01.279 those like scopes you use when women are pregnant. He 316 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:05.720 had that in his office, Like wow, Like is it? 317 00:20:05.920 --> 00:20:08.400 Is it so that they can get these like sonar 318 00:20:09.319 --> 00:20:11.240 of the infants and then they don't have to report 319 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:14.640 them because there's no medical they're not in the medical 320 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:17.000 system right because there's no nothing that they're not taking 321 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:18.799 them to a doctor. Is that how dark it was? 322 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:21.799 Well, actually, there were a number of doctors in Jeffrey 323 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:28.559 Emstein's within his circle, so a doctor getting them dates 324 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:33.680 weren't weren't an issue. Virginia Geffree told me that a 325 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:37.440 very sadistic pedophile put her in the hospital for three days, 326 00:20:37.799 --> 00:20:41.279 but there would be no record whatsoever of her being 327 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:42.079 in the hospital. 328 00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:46.480 So that's how deep the network was. 329 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:49.680 Lots of doctors, lots of. 330 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:54.079 Rest in peace, Jewphrey. She said she would never commit suicide. 331 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:58.519 I wrote a pretty protracted article about her. It's my 332 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:01.960 blogging go to Nick Bryant NYC dot com or Epstein 333 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:07.200 Justice dot com. And I knew Virginia and she had 334 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:11.480 been through horrible acause her father started sexually abusing her 335 00:21:11.559 --> 00:21:14.559 when she was six years old, and then he found 336 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:16.559 her out to a friend of his when she was 337 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:21.359 eight and then she was put into a buried raconian 338 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:25.400 institution when she was twelve years old, which she ran 339 00:21:25.440 --> 00:21:29.880 away from repeatedly and ultimately ended up as a minor 340 00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:38.720 on the streets of Miami, and she was eventually came 341 00:21:38.759 --> 00:21:44.240 into the gravitational pull of pedophilic pink named Ron Eppinger, 342 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:52.119 and Evinger rented a a apartment and then Pedophlesa come 343 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:58.160 in day and night and molest Virginia. And then Epinger 344 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:03.119 realized that the FEDS were on his track or on 345 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:06.039 his tail, and he gave Virginia to a friend of his, 346 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:11.920 and ultimately what happened there was the FBI did at 347 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:17.359 predawn raid on that guy, and Virginia was in bed 348 00:22:17.400 --> 00:22:26.559 with him. And then Virginia's father was kind enough to 349 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:30.880 let Virginia back into the house, and then that and 350 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:34.240 then shortly thereafter he worked at Mariligo as a maintenance man, 351 00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:39.119 and he got Virginia job at Marlago, and that's surely 352 00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:45.920 thereafter she met Ballainne Maxwell, and with Maxwell and also Epstein, 353 00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:50.519 they didn't have to condition her. That's really important. And 354 00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:53.880 I and I this came up in the Franklin scandal 355 00:22:55.160 --> 00:22:59.039 because you cannot take a kid off the streets and 356 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:03.119 just throw them in a room with a senator or 357 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.920 a billionaire or someone in the cabinet. They have to 358 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:12.160 be conditioned, they have to be tied deference, and Virginia 359 00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:16.079 had already been through all that, so it was easy 360 00:23:16.119 --> 00:23:22.200 for Gallainne Maxwell and Jeffrey Ebstein to start pimping her out. 361 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:27.839 And she had been through a lot of trauma, a 362 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:31.240 lot of trauma, but she was a supernova the way 363 00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:36.119 that she took on the pedophile on my nose Prince 364 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:41.200 Andrew and also Gallainne Maxwell, and went up against her 365 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:46.319 reptilian lawyers. But ultimately what got her was her husband 366 00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:52.319 was beating her up, and the year before she died, 367 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:55.079 she tried to commit suicide a couple of times. And 368 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:59.240 there's that one picture of her on the Internet where 369 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:02.440 she's really battered and bruised, and it was said that 370 00:24:02.559 --> 00:24:05.720 it was an accident between a car and a bus, 371 00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:09.440 but actually that her husband did that to her and 372 00:24:09.720 --> 00:24:12.880 he was able to get control of the kids. And 373 00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:16.480 Virginia really prided herself on being a very good mother, 374 00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:23.079 and I think that her husband's abuse was just the 375 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:28.079 critical mass of trauma where she couldn't deal with life anymore. 376 00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:31.079 She just had She just started off trauma like from 377 00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:36.640 a very early age. Yeah, I remember the whole pot 378 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:40.680 Ebinger thing like because I read her her bio, not 379 00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:42.839 the most recent book, but her biography that was in 380 00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:48.480 the Maxwell Wile. She also sued Dershawitz. Yes, do you 381 00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:51.000 know the outcome of that case because it went all 382 00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:54.880 the way to he almost got deposed and then it 383 00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:56.880 got taken out of the court system, which. 384 00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:03.119 Virginia was pressured to recant Dersha which is abuse. And 385 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:10.240 I know who pressured her, but it would be difficult 386 00:25:10.279 --> 00:25:13.079 for me to say because I don't have the requisite proof, 387 00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:17.799 but but she was. She was pressure pressured to recant 388 00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:18.440 her accounts of. 389 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:23.079 Abuse with richards Right, she said, I think that six 390 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:25.359 times she was with him at Zora Ranch too, if 391 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:28.519 our memory serves me correct. So he was around and 392 00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:33.000 she was trafficked to, according to her dubin Mitchell him 393 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:36.960 Robert I think Robertson who was the governor of New Mexico. 394 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:41.279 Richardson Richardson and also Bruce King who is also the governor. 395 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:44.279 Of oh well both Wow. See, so the network had 396 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:47.039 that power. Mitchell for people who don't know he was 397 00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:53.440 involved in the Israeli Palestinian negotiation peace process. Like you 398 00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:56.279 have this guy who they have dirt on, and there 399 00:25:56.319 --> 00:25:58.359 he is, like you can go look at the peace 400 00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:03.319 He's sitting down with BB Clinton and the representative from 401 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:06.319