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Speaker 2: is we're talking about, whatever's got you scratch in your
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Speaker 2: three to ask Dean tomorrow's show. By the way, we're
Speaker 2: talking about sound control. Sound control, not soundproofing. That's one
Speaker 2: facet of it. Soundproofing. Get a lot of questions about soundproofing,
Speaker 2: but sound control, sound noise, noise pollution. It's an ever
Speaker 2: growing part of our lives. It is something that is
Speaker 2: not healthy for us, both psychologically and physically. It is
Speaker 2: something we've learned a lot about in the last couple
Speaker 2: of decades and we need to do more to get
Speaker 2: control of So we're going to talk about everything from
Speaker 2: soundproofing to adding sound to your home in all the
Speaker 2: right ways, to masking sound in areas that you can't proof,
Speaker 2: like your backyard, in your outdoor areas. So we're going
Speaker 2: to take a deep dive on the whole subject, and
Speaker 2: as always, I'm going to guide you through and give
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Speaker 2: design for more information. All right, let's go back to
Speaker 2: the phones. I want to talk to Gus. Hey, Gus,
Speaker 2: welcome home.
Speaker 3: Hey Dean.
Speaker 1: You know they wrote a song about that, about the soundproofing.
Speaker 1: It was like a sound control to major.
Speaker 2: Tom uh that was not sound control, my friend.
Speaker 4: But that was nice. It was a nice pull, nice try.
Speaker 4: How can I help you?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: My question is I used to watch a show with
Speaker 1: my dad before he passed away. Who do you think
Speaker 1: we did a better job, Bob Vila or that couple
Speaker 1: on Home Improof, not Home improve but the Chip and
Speaker 1: Johanna Gaines. They bought house Chief houses in Texas and
Speaker 1: they picked them up.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: So you just called to to hear my opinion on
Speaker 2: that and get me in trouble with everybody, right, That's
Speaker 2: that was that was the goal. You're just gonna bush me.
Speaker 1: Yes, uh, you know what.
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the thing, first of all, something that
Speaker 2: I want you to understand about me. I, uh, for
Speaker 2: the most part, cannot watch home improvement television. Wow it
Speaker 2: I mean, I really I struggle with it generally speaking.
Speaker 2: And the reason is it's kind of like this. It's
Speaker 2: kind of like a doctor. You you medical professionals out there,
Speaker 2: you know how hard it is to watch a medical
Speaker 2: procedural drama or or police officer watching a police show
Speaker 2: because you're sitting there at some point and you're.
Speaker 4: Like, that's not the way it's done.
Speaker 2: It and it gets tired of hearing me say that.
Speaker 2: So we just don't watch them. We just don't watch them.
Speaker 2: I just can't because there's so much about home improvement
Speaker 2: television that is just uh, it's just it's just entertainment
Speaker 2: and uh and so much of it loses, uh, its
Speaker 2: grounding in reality. Okay, So just under that about me
Speaker 2: in general. So, but here's the thing. Bob Vila, Bob
Speaker 2: Ya used to be the host of This Old House,
Speaker 2: and This Old House is still running and a very
Speaker 2: long running show. Chip and Joanna is it Fixer Upper?
Speaker 4: Is that what it? Yet? I think it's a Chip
Speaker 4: and Joanna Gaines.
Speaker 2: You know, they've made a little empire for themselves in Waco,
Speaker 2: Texas doing all this stuff, and then the Magnolia and
Speaker 2: then the magazines and then all the all the stuff.
Speaker 2: Joanna is a home designer. Uh and uh and they
Speaker 2: you know, they started, I think they started flipping houses
Speaker 2: and then they just that combination attracted the networks to them.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: So so here's my opinion. Uh, you know, whatever entertain
Speaker 2: you the most, honestly, because neither neither category is a
Speaker 2: deep dive into you know, the way homes really work.
Speaker 2: But if I had to bias, uh and and you know,
Speaker 2: please understand that that I am a home designer and
Speaker 2: an artist at heart. If I had to bias, I
Speaker 2: would probably lean toward a show like this Old House.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've I've watched this Old House be for there.
Speaker 2: It's much more practical home building kind of stuff, elements
Speaker 2: that go into a house. I find people walk away
Speaker 2: with more practical understanding, uh than they do.
Speaker 1: This old House actually has changed. It's not the same
Speaker 1: like it used to be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's not the same. It's not the same.
Speaker 4: And uh.
Speaker 2: And you know, I've got nothing against uh Chip and
Speaker 2: Joanna and I you know, applaud their success and and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, as as TV personalities, But just understand that
Speaker 2: you you you see a lot of designy stuff happen,
Speaker 2: But I don't know that most people walk away with
Speaker 2: actually a better understanding of how to design their own
Speaker 2: home or how it works for them. It's television and
Speaker 2: it's entertainment, and a lot of people find a category
Speaker 2: of entertainment for them is you know, quote unquote home
Speaker 2: improvement entertainment. And I say that you know understanding that
Speaker 2: that this program that you're listening to is categorized as
Speaker 2: a home improvement show. Every time we sit down and
Speaker 2: talk about it, you know, at iHeart, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: our home improvement show is you know, Home with Dean Sharp.
Speaker 2: But I try and approach it differently, and maybe one
Speaker 2: of the things that's a little different about our show.
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that is different is
Speaker 2: that number one, you know, we don't we don't set
Speaker 2: up false scenarios for things to happen dramatically in the show.
Speaker 2: I always joke about the fact that, you know, the
Speaker 2: typical formula for a home improvement show these days is Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna renovate these this couple's house, Jane and Bob
Speaker 2: and they've got a budget of you know, sixty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars and we're gonna do this, that and the other thing.
Speaker 2: We dive in and then, of course the dramatic moment
Speaker 2: is everything's going along peaches and cream until oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: we uncovered this wall that we're plenty on moving and
Speaker 2: we didn't real nobody realized it was a bearing wall
Speaker 2: that's gonna blow their budget right out of the water.
Speaker 2: And then, you know, and I always laugh because as
Speaker 2: a home designer and a builder in the real world, Okay,
Speaker 2: if I'm suggesting a design for your home and I
Speaker 2: don't know that a wall is a bearing wall, you
Speaker 2: should not have hired me. Okay, this is this is
Speaker 2: home design one oh one. Of course I know where
Speaker 2: the bearing walls in your house are and where they're not.
Speaker 2: We've got structural engineers involved in every project. I mean,
Speaker 2: it is simply not reality. And again, you know it
Speaker 2: should become as no surprise. Reality TV is the furthest
Speaker 2: thing usually from reality. So uh, it's entertainment. And if
Speaker 2: you love it as entertainment, then there you go. Then
Speaker 2: entertain yourself all day long. I'll tell you what I
Speaker 2: got to go to a break, Gus. But when we
Speaker 2: come back, and thanks for the question. You kind of
Speaker 2: got me on my soapbox, I am going to share
Speaker 2: with you. I will share with y'all number one why
Speaker 2: we don't have a TV show yet and number two
Speaker 2: what my favorite actual home design television show is. We'll
Speaker 2: talk about that, Kayfi, Gean Sharp, the House Whisper at
Speaker 2: your service. It's an all call Saturday morning. The number
Speaker 2: to reach me eight three three two. Ask Dean A
Speaker 2: three to three the numeral two ask Dean. Giving you
Speaker 2: a call, you get to set the agenda. Anything that's
Speaker 2: got you scratching your head about your house. Be it
Speaker 2: a design issue, yes, please, architecture, construction, DIY concern?
Speaker 4: What have you a?
Speaker 2: Right before the break, Gus called me and asked me
Speaker 2: what I thought that I like Bob Vila or the
Speaker 2: Fixer Upper joe In and what's her husband Chip better?
Speaker 2: My point was, it's all entertainment, and take it with
Speaker 2: a grain of salt, because it's entertainment television first and foremost.
Speaker 2: Not that you can't learn some things, but they're not
Speaker 2: really designed to directly help you get anywhere with your projects.
Speaker 2: And I don't mean that as a diss on any
Speaker 2: and simply you know, things are what they are, and
Speaker 2: if you find those shows entertaining, then go for it.
Speaker 2: But I promised that I would say right after the
Speaker 2: break here that I would tell you number one why
Speaker 2: we don't have a show, and number two what my
Speaker 2: actual favorite design show is. And yeah, I do have one.
Speaker 2: I have one that I will watch and enjoy because
Speaker 2: generally speaking, I don't watch home improvement television too. It's
Speaker 2: too frustrating. It's too frustrating prep because I'm like, this
Speaker 2: is not helping people at all. So we've actually been
Speaker 2: approached just FYI, I'm thinking about is it five, five
Speaker 2: or six times by producers from those networks and you know,
Speaker 2: related networks. You know, got a call, hey buddy, yeah,
Speaker 2: you guys are going to be the new You could
Speaker 2: be the new Chip and Joe Anne and and you know,
Speaker 2: we take the calls and we talked to him, and
Speaker 2: first of all, it's like, hey, we don't want to
Speaker 2: be the new Chip and Joeanne.
Speaker 4: We're us. Secondly, the other thing is that you know we.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're fortunate to be on the radio, meaning
Speaker 2: that you know, Tina and I were just we we
Speaker 2: love designing homes.
Speaker 4: That's why we still do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not we haven't given our lives over to
Speaker 2: media as like, oh, that's our new career, that's our career.
Speaker 2: Media now obviously a part of our career has branched
Speaker 2: into this form of media, and we're loving it, and
Speaker 2: we'd be open to something different because we're just open
Speaker 2: to adventures. But the point being that we were never
Speaker 2: pursuing it to begin with. It came to us, not
Speaker 2: the other way around. And so you know, we're not
Speaker 2: media people who, oh, I got an angle, I could
Speaker 2: do home in Groveman stuff.
Speaker 4: No, you know, I'm a.
Speaker 2: Home designer and a builder. And also, do you know
Speaker 2: a radio show on a podcast. So that's one reason why.
Speaker 2: And the second reason should be obvious at this point,
Speaker 2: which is that you know, the typical producers approach us
Speaker 2: and they're like, okay, so how would you want to
Speaker 2: do a show? And I'm like, well, actually, now that
Speaker 2: you ask, here's what I'd like to do. I'd like
Speaker 2: to do a limited series about actual design. We could
Speaker 2: call it Design Matters Most And here's a rough treatment
Speaker 2: layout for how we I would want to do the show,
Speaker 2: and they're like, okay, well that that could be great,
Speaker 2: but we just do we just do our regular formulaic stuff.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I don't want to do I
Speaker 2: don't want to be another formula you know, DIY show
Speaker 2: on TV. I'd like to do something more unique, more helpful,
Speaker 2: more fun, more entertaining, I think ultimately, but ultimately more
Speaker 2: helpful as well. So anyway, if you're a pretduce out
Speaker 2: there and you're thinking, how do I get Dean to
Speaker 2: do a show with me, give me a call. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you exactly what I'm interested in doing. And it
Speaker 2: won't be on one of the DIY networks, I'll tell you,
Speaker 2: unless they're ready to break out of their mold, which
Speaker 2: I don't think they are. It'll be a Netflix or
Speaker 2: an Apple TV thing or whatever. Anyway, there you go. Now,
Speaker 2: finally I'm taking the whole segment to do this, but
Speaker 2: a lot of people have asked, so I just figured
Speaker 2: I'll throw it out there. What design show does Dean
Speaker 2: really enjoy watching? Grand Designs? And if you're scratching your head,
Speaker 2: you're like, I've never heard of that show. It's a
Speaker 2: BBC show, the British show Grand Designs. Hosted by Kevin
Speaker 2: McLeod It is I think arguably the longest running home
Speaker 2: design show on the planet. I think they started in
Speaker 2: ninety nine, nineteen ninety nine. I think they're in their
Speaker 2: twentieth or twenty first season or something like that. They
Speaker 2: may have skipped a lot anyway, twenty plus season. Okay,
Speaker 2: Grand Design is a show. And why is there no
Speaker 2: Grand Designs America? Because again, try getting a network to
Speaker 2: invest in the show the way the BBC did, which
Speaker 2: is this, he doesn't do the build or the design.
Speaker 2: He's a presenter. He's a host. Now he's a designer,
Speaker 2: really really good one. He knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: But they find interesting one off custom design projects, people
Speaker 2: who are real people who are building their dream home
Speaker 2: and they come in have a conversation before it starts,
Speaker 2: They revisit the house as it's going, they talk about
Speaker 2: it after the fact. You get to see kind of
Speaker 2: the whole process. But that sometimes can take a year
Speaker 2: or two for one episode. So they had to have
Speaker 2: done like a two or three year investment in the
Speaker 2: show just to get a first season going, and then
Speaker 2: continue to do that as the years roll on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good luck getting a US network to back you on
Speaker 2: that kind of a thing, because it's not easy money
Speaker 2: right up front anyway. Grand designs very artistic, very entertaining.
Speaker 2: And if you want to hear a real home designer
Speaker 2: step in and stare a couple in the face and say,
Speaker 2: and you think you're going to build this for how
Speaker 2: much six hundred thousand pounds, you'll be lucky if you
Speaker 2: get out of this at one point two million. And
Speaker 2: then we find out at the end that, yeah, he
Speaker 2: was pretty much right. So instead of giving false expectations
Speaker 2: about how the building process works, he gets nitty gritty
Speaker 2: with them, follows it through, and yet at the end,
Speaker 2: if he finds the project worthwhile, he'll tell you every
Speaker 2: artistic reason why this house moves you. And I just
Speaker 2: love all that because that very much lines up with
Speaker 2: the way we design and the experiences of designing dream
Speaker 2: homes in the real world for real people. So Grand Designs,
Speaker 2: Where can you find it? I think you can find
Speaker 2: it on Amazon usual. Amazon Prime usually has at least
Speaker 2: a couple of seasons worth, and you can find all
Speaker 2: the rest of them on YouTube. Now, so there you go,
Speaker 2: there you go, all right? I blew a whole segment
Speaker 2: talking about this. But there you go. There's your answer.
Speaker 2: Go check out Grand Designs and then tell me about it.
Speaker 2: Shoot me an email, make a comment on and maybe
Speaker 2: we should make a post and just so everybody can
Speaker 2: find it anyway, let me know what you think. I
Speaker 2: think it's a ton of fun. Okay, let's get some
Speaker 2: news and we'll go back to the phones.
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Speaker 4: You are Home with Dean Sharp. The house whisper. That's me.
Speaker 2: It's an all calls Saturday morning, like we love to
Speaker 2: do on Saturday mornings. Here the first Saturday in summer
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. I'm glad to be with you. It
Speaker 2: is a privilege and a pleasure to talk to you
Speaker 2: about your home. All right, let's go back to the phones,
Speaker 2: shall we. Let's talk to Sean. Hey, Sean, welcome home, Jeans,
Speaker 2: Good morning.
Speaker 4: Good morning, sir. How can I help you?
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I bought a home.
Speaker 5: He's Ventoria. I believe it's in nineteen this nineteen sixties.
Speaker 5: The gentleman that did the home inspection. After that inspection,
Speaker 5: he told me and my wife one cool thing about
Speaker 5: the house, and the wall that separates the liver rooms
Speaker 5: from the kitchen to be taken down without without an issue.
Speaker 5: So going forward, we got opinions on the kitchen designs
Speaker 5: and we told him we want to open up the
Speaker 5: kitchen and the guy told us that that wasn't a
Speaker 5: low barn wall, that it couldn't be open or it
Speaker 5: was a low bar or however, but it couldn't be
Speaker 5: opened up. That he had to do some retro fitting.
Speaker 5: It costs about an extra seven grand to open.
Speaker 3: The kitchen up.
Speaker 5: So I was just trying to see, how can I
Speaker 5: be sure that is a low barn wall?
Speaker 1: Not?
Speaker 3: Should I get more opinion?
Speaker 5: There's something I can.
Speaker 3: Do to check.
Speaker 2: Yes and yes, uh and uh? And you should do
Speaker 2: you should do both, my friend. All right, So here's
Speaker 2: the thing. Is single story house, Yes, single story house.
Speaker 2: So you got to addic space above all right. So
Speaker 2: a couple of things. One is uh that so a
Speaker 2: load bearing wall means that it's a wall that's actually
Speaker 2: holding up stuff up above it, Okay, as opposed to
Speaker 2: they're like I thought every wall was that way.
Speaker 4: No, it's not.
Speaker 2: Actually there are load bearing walls, or what we call
Speaker 2: for short, a bearing wall, and there are partition walls,
Speaker 2: which are just walls that are dividing rooms up but
Speaker 2: actually not doing any structural work on the house. And
Speaker 2: there's a big difference between the two because partition walls
Speaker 2: are walls that can come down without any consequence to
Speaker 2: the structural integrity of the home, and a bearing wall
Speaker 2: is not a how it's not a wall that can
Speaker 2: come down without consequence. A bearing wall can come down,
Speaker 2: but it has to be replaced by structures that are
Speaker 2: going to do the work that the wall was doing,
Speaker 2: and that can be obviously a more expensive process. So
Speaker 2: in a one story house where you've got an attic
Speaker 2: space above, the attic space is almost inevitably the place
Speaker 2: where you make these discoveries. Up in the attic, you
Speaker 2: locate the top of that wall and we find out
Speaker 2: whether there are ceiling joists number one that are laying
Speaker 2: on that wall, that are bearing on it, that have
Speaker 2: come over and are resting on it. So normally, if
Speaker 2: the ceiling joys are running perpendicular to that wall and
Speaker 2: they are resting on it, then it is doing a
Speaker 2: job of bearing up one end of a set of
Speaker 2: ceiling joys. Another way to look at it is that
Speaker 2: in the attic, if there are any roof braces we
Speaker 2: call them Perlin braces. There may be two by fours
Speaker 2: or two by six is coming down at an angle
Speaker 2: from the roofing rafters or from a brace system that
Speaker 2: may be loaded onto that wall, or any posts that
Speaker 2: are coming down onto the top of the wall. So
Speaker 2: the point is the easiest way to figure out what
Speaker 2: a wall is actually doing is to get on a
Speaker 2: single story house, is to get in the attic and
Speaker 2: find the wall and find out the relationship of floor
Speaker 2: joys and posts and braces to it. Generally speaking, if
Speaker 2: floor joyce are running in the ceiling joyst sorry are
Speaker 2: running in the direction same direction of the wall, then
Speaker 2: it's not a baring wall because it may have a
Speaker 2: ceiling joist on top of it, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that it's holding up the whole room. It just so
Speaker 2: happens that the ceiling joist ended up lining up with
Speaker 2: the top of the wall, but it's not doing a
Speaker 2: job holding anything else up. So that's the first place
Speaker 2: that we would check to give you a sense of
Speaker 2: whether or not you know, we could pull that wall
Speaker 2: down and do some fancy things with the kitchen at
Speaker 2: relatively no expense. Sometimes I can see when I walk
Speaker 2: into a home just by the pattern of the wave
Speaker 2: of the roof, or even the configuration of the house.
Speaker 2: Like if you live in a long kind of California
Speaker 2: ranch house, it's usually the walls that run down the hallway,
Speaker 2: one or maybe two walls that run down that long
Speaker 2: hallway that stretches the lengthwise of the house about in
Speaker 2: the middle of the house, about halfway between the back
Speaker 2: wall in the front wall of the house. That's usually
Speaker 2: inevitably a bearing wall of some sort. But different houses,
Speaker 2: different configurations. But I'll tell you that the secret is
Speaker 2: finding the top plate of that wall in the attic
Speaker 2: space and seeing its relationship to everything else. Now that
Speaker 2: isn't that, that's not where it stopped. I will pop
Speaker 2: my head into an attic and give an owner a
Speaker 2: you know, ninety nine percent sure that this is not
Speaker 2: a bearing wall, and that we're cool with that. But
Speaker 2: we don't just rush ahead and start tearing walls down.
Speaker 2: I recommend that you call a local structural engineer. Okay,
Speaker 2: they've got no skin in the game. They're not trying
Speaker 2: to win the job. They're not trying to build out
Speaker 2: a bid for you or anything. Call out a structural
Speaker 2: engineer and you simply say, hey, i've got a house
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about removing a wall. I'd like to pay
Speaker 2: you to come out to do a consult for me.
Speaker 2: And they'll come out for you know, a couple three
Speaker 2: hundred bucks, spend forty five minutes looking around the house,
Speaker 2: looking up in the attic, and give you their strong
Speaker 2: opinion as to whether or not that's a wall that
Speaker 2: can afford to come down or not. And there's some
Speaker 2: other factors that they play into it as well. But
Speaker 2: generally speaking, that, my friend, is how you figure it out.
Speaker 2: So you can go up to the attic look around yourself.
Speaker 2: But even if you conclude, oh yeah, everything that Dean
Speaker 2: said is true, there's nothing even sitting on top of
Speaker 2: these plates up here. It's just in between a set
Speaker 2: of ceiling. Joy it looks like this wall could come down.
Speaker 2: That's all well and good, be encouraged, but don't make
Speaker 2: a move without talking to a structural engineer to make
Speaker 2: sure that you're safe to do exactly that. So there
Speaker 2: you go, John, thanks for the question, my friend, A really,
Speaker 2: really good question. And this is why we take calls,
Speaker 2: because we end up talking about things that lots of people,
Speaker 2: lots and lots of people. For every call that we take,
Speaker 2: there's tens of thousands of people who are have the
Speaker 2: same question back of their head, who didn't fall? And
Speaker 2: that's what makes it so much fun. All Right, when
Speaker 2: we come back, we'll take more of your calls. Your
Speaker 2: home with Dean Sharp, the house whisper. Okayf Dean Sharp,
Speaker 2: the house whisper. Welcome home. Thanks for joining us on
Speaker 2: the program today. Here we are approaching the end of
Speaker 2: another two hours together that we get to spend with
Speaker 2: each other every Saturday morning. We're taking calls as always.
Speaker 2: I don't want to waste any more time. Get right
Speaker 2: back to the phones. Let's see if we can get
Speaker 2: at least one more question in today. Let's talk to Scott. Hey, Scott,
Speaker 2: welcome home.
Speaker 3: Hi Dean, how are you doing this morning?
Speaker 4: I am well, sir, How can I help you?
Speaker 3: That's funny, you say, well, because that's what my question
Speaker 3: contains to. I got to kind of frame this off
Speaker 3: for you. First. We're on an Indian reservation, highly imparts
Speaker 3: to be a reservation and we have little or no resources.
Speaker 3: The nearest resources are about twenty five miles away from us,
Speaker 3: So we're out there. We've got a well sitting on
Speaker 3: the top of a hill. It's you know, it's got
Speaker 3: three circuit breakers run into it, and it's got a
Speaker 3: twenty five PSI tank attached to it, and then we
Speaker 3: have about a thousand gallon plastic tank there. It drops
Speaker 3: down to a two inch run that runs about twelve
Speaker 3: hundred feet. This applies three houses and two trailers out
Speaker 3: there in a little shack too. We're on the end
Speaker 3: of the run, and when we were doing some grading work,
Speaker 3: we discovered a riser that came up, and it's a
Speaker 3: one inch riser that feeds off of that two inch
Speaker 3: PBC run. At the very end of the twelve hundred
Speaker 3: feet is a metal riser that comes up with a
Speaker 3: two and a half stiket coming off of it. Looks
Speaker 3: like maybe for fire suppression. So here's the question I
Speaker 3: have for you. We opened up the valve and found
Speaker 3: that we had water there after twelve years being out
Speaker 3: here in the middle of nowhere, and we decided we
Speaker 3: wanted to run that water up to our fifth wheeld
Speaker 3: that we have. So every time we kick on the water,
Speaker 3: we've got over one hundred psi down there. And what
Speaker 3: happens is it creates some form of it moves the
Speaker 3: water column and creates some kind of air bubble way
Speaker 3: up at the top where the houses are. We're you know,
Speaker 3: down at over eight percent grade, which is the last
Speaker 3: half of that twelve hundred foot run. So we get
Speaker 3: we don't have water pressure problems other than we need
Speaker 3: to regulate it down and I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 3: where I need to regulate that too. We've got a
Speaker 3: Zernwatkin's double check backflow valve and we're putting in Zernwokin
Speaker 3: six hundred XL water pressure regulator and that runs from
Speaker 3: twenty five to seventy psi. But it seems like, you know,
Speaker 3: we pull anything above sixty psi, all the other houses
Speaker 3: lose their water on this run. And so I'm working
Speaker 3: with the neighbors to try to solve this problem so
Speaker 3: we can have water too, right, So I'm kind of
Speaker 3: looking for a solution here, and I've actually consulted with
Speaker 3: somebody at North County Backflow and he said, I'm barking
Speaker 3: up the right tree with the backflow and with the regulator.
Speaker 3: But this problem keeps happening even when we're not using
Speaker 3: the water, and somebody has to go up to the
Speaker 3: well and shut off a cert breakers and turn them
Speaker 3: back on. Well is twenty plus years old. So I
Speaker 3: was thinking that maybe the pumpy is to be rebuilt
Speaker 3: at some point, but of course, being on this reservation,
Speaker 3: there's no resources to do it right right. And there
Speaker 3: is a water master out there and he's looked at
Speaker 3: it and says, huh, and he believes the valve at
Speaker 3: the end now that he discovered it. There's no as
Speaker 3: B planks for this, and we're kind of out on
Speaker 3: a wind in a prayer here trying to figure this out, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Scott, Yeah, And I'm running low on time here.
Speaker 2: But I appreciate I appreciate the detail, and I also
Speaker 2: appreciate your confidence in me to be able to take that.
Speaker 2: That's a very highly technical situation you got going there.
Speaker 4: I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2: You've got tons of pressure down where you are, just
Speaker 2: because of the weight of water in the lines falling
Speaker 2: and you being the end run on it, and you're
Speaker 2: going to be You're going to need to be careful
Speaker 2: to not access that water in free flow ways that
Speaker 2: you know, drain out everybody else's pressure supply, because you are,
Speaker 2: you know, at the down end of that. The backflow valve,
Speaker 2: backflow valve everybody is is kind of what it sounds like.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a a valve that only allows liquids
Speaker 2: or to move in one direction and not the other.
Speaker 2: Not hooking and rehooking the water supply down where you
Speaker 2: are will keep the bubble, the water bubbles out, and
Speaker 2: the back flow valve should hopefully keep the air bubbles
Speaker 2: from making it all the way back up to the
Speaker 2: pump and stalling the pump. That's one of the things
Speaker 2: that may be a case. Since we're on a gravity
Speaker 2: feed such a severe gravity feed situation, air intrusion into
Speaker 2: that line that finds its way all the way back
Speaker 2: up to the to the to the main pump might
Speaker 2: actually be drying out the pump literally like air. If
Speaker 2: the pump is the highest point of that whole line
Speaker 2: draw to you, then that air bubble of size could
Speaker 2: in fact be finding its way up there and causing
Speaker 2: the pump to grind against non liquid just air in it.
Speaker 2: So one of the things that could be done. In theory,
Speaker 2: all the way at the top of the well is
Speaker 2: not have the pump be the very very top of
Speaker 2: the airline potential, and that is to build a branch
Speaker 2: off of the water that's coming out of the pump
Speaker 2: higher up, so that if there is an air bubble
Speaker 2: that forms, it'll go there and bypass the pump, and
Speaker 2: the pump can keep functioning for all the water needs
Speaker 2: that it's also supplying. But it sounds like it could
Speaker 2: be even a little bit more complex because you've got
Speaker 2: multiple old lines running through there. I'm gonna with the
Speaker 2: water guy and tell you I think you're barking up
Speaker 2: the right tree with that. You've got a pressure regulator
Speaker 2: that you should try not to run up over sixty
Speaker 2: too far, and that keeps the pressure from dropping out
Speaker 2: for everybody else up above you and the backflow valve.
Speaker 2: But maybe up where the pump is, maybe the pump
Speaker 2: needs replacing, or maybe what we need to do is
Speaker 2: we need to run a tee off of the pump
Speaker 2: so that any air it gets into the line.
Speaker 4: Gets out of the way.
Speaker 2: Scott, I wish I had more time to dive deeper
Speaker 2: into it with you, but that's the best I can
Speaker 2: do with the few seconds I have left.
Speaker 4: Good luck on that.
Speaker 2: Got anything of more detail, you know, send it, shoot
Speaker 2: me an email, and you know.
Speaker 4: We can talk about it on the side.
Speaker 2: All right, everybody else, thanks for joining us on the
Speaker 2: program this morning.
Speaker 4: Privilege and a pleasure.
Speaker 2: As always, we'll be right back here tomorrow morning at
Speaker 2: nine from nine to noon Pacific time to talk about
Speaker 2: sound role for your home proofing, masking, all the things
Speaker 2: associated with getting the sound around your house under control.
Speaker 4: We'll do that.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow and for today, get out there in this beautiful
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