Speaker 1: Let's fucking go.
Speaker 2: One good three? Yeah, jobs three, King of Queen Meryl Street,
Speaker 2: I do, and I am man, and.
Speaker 1: We are the Mac and Goo program, ready to bring
Speaker 1: you seven hours of friendship.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Today we're bringing you some forced friendship. And that,
Speaker 2: of course, uh is the forced friendship of one Deadpool
Speaker 2: Wade Wilson and uh Logan Wolverine, and boy, I'll tell you,
Speaker 2: this is one of those movies that you know, we
Speaker 2: get screeners often, you know, we're able to see movies
Speaker 2: a few days, sometimes a week or two before the
Speaker 2: people's This is the first one in a while that
Speaker 2: I am so excited we got to see before most
Speaker 2: other people.
Speaker 1: Is this our most anticipated movie since Endgame?
Speaker 2: It might be. It might be because of all the
Speaker 2: things that go into this movie and may come out
Speaker 2: of it going forward, and just the fact that you know,
Speaker 2: the MCU really hasn't gotten back to the level that
Speaker 2: we expect from it, and I think this movie finally
Speaker 2: gets up to a tier where I don't think they've
Speaker 2: reached since Endgame. You could argue one other movie might
Speaker 2: be up there as well, by the way Home, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Another big tent pole movie. I would say that since
Speaker 1: Endgame You've had two big tent pole movies, both very
Speaker 1: fan service, semi gimmicky movies. And I'm gonna tip my
Speaker 1: hand right now, Carrot sign facing this over No Way Home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. Not that it blows that out
Speaker 2: of the water, but this is better, more satisfying for im.
Speaker 2: It's very similar though similar, similar structure, similar structure, for sure.
Speaker 2: It's just nice to go to a movie that you
Speaker 2: have been looking forward to for a couple of years
Speaker 2: and not leaving disappointed. So little peek behind the curtain here.
Speaker 2: I was very pleased and very satisfied with this movie.
Speaker 1: But also saying that I have been in my thoughts.
Speaker 1: I have popped on the Professor x helmet the past
Speaker 1: couple of days and really really thought this one out,
Speaker 1: and Okay, I needed to figure out what this movie was,
Speaker 1: what it was trying to accomplish, and it did that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's get into it. Then.
Speaker 1: Should we talk about the movie or should we tiptoe
Speaker 1: around it?
Speaker 2: More? Dead Pull and Wolverine, I believe is our thirty
Speaker 2: fourth MCU movie. Now I think we're up to like
Speaker 2: ten or eleven shows, so somewhere around forty five properties overall.
Speaker 2: Of the MCU, and of course Deadpool's first venture into
Speaker 2: the MCU, as well as Wolverine's first venture into the MCU.
Speaker 2: And this is a rated R action comedy in sci
Speaker 2: fi with a run time of one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: seven minutes, so just over two hours. It's long enough.
Speaker 2: I do think you maybe could have cut a couple things,
Speaker 2: but you also could have even expanded upon it. If
Speaker 2: this was three hours, I think they could have done
Speaker 2: even some even more cool shit. But for the most part,
Speaker 2: they stuck to a central story. Whether that story was
Speaker 2: the greatest or not, we'll talk about. And they didn't
Speaker 2: meander too far off of that path.
Speaker 1: No, it's pretty cut and dry of first act, second act,
Speaker 1: third act. Three locations pretty.
Speaker 2: Much, yeah, essentially, and of course three.
Speaker 1: Worlds we're not gonna spoil right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, one location in particular is obviously a
Speaker 2: big sandbox, the Void, and you can you can do
Speaker 2: whatever you want.
Speaker 1: It's a giant fucking sandbox.
Speaker 2: Kue. Currently on Rotten Tomatoes, this has eighty one percent
Speaker 2: from the critics. We won't know an audience score for
Speaker 2: a couple of days. It did open at eighty five percent,
Speaker 2: which is right in the same range as the first
Speaker 2: two Deadpool one eighty five percent from the critics, ninety
Speaker 2: percent from the audience, Deadpool two eighty four percent from
Speaker 2: the critics, eighty five percent from the audience, and on Metacritic,
Speaker 2: this is a fifty four. You that's slow, But critics
Speaker 2: they hate, They hate referencing other stuff. They hate, you know,
Speaker 2: shared universes. The critics hate fun.
Speaker 1: I think this movie has a lot working against it
Speaker 1: when it comes to, you know, a critical eye on
Speaker 1: it and also trying to really evaluate it as a
Speaker 1: movie as opposed to a spectacle, because I'm looking at
Speaker 1: it more like a spectacle. And I I hate to
Speaker 1: quote Martin Scorsese on this, but this movie truly is
Speaker 1: a great amusement park ride, and it's a wonderful roller coade.
Speaker 1: It's an experience. But yeah, when looking at it as
Speaker 1: a as a standalone movie, I can see where people
Speaker 1: might have gripes with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the story admittedly isn't great, and not even the story,
Speaker 2: the motivations for a character and then the actions of
Speaker 2: another I have questions about, and obviously the critics are
Speaker 2: going to have more questions than we do. Tate relates
Speaker 2: this to the first two movies. The first one got
Speaker 2: a sixty five of Metacritic, the second one got a
Speaker 2: sixty six, So they're essentially saying this one is a
Speaker 2: tier lower as a movie. Now maybe people would agree
Speaker 2: there because of, you know, the story, but as an event,
Speaker 2: as a spectacle, yes, this is vastly superior to the first.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to this movie for the story, for
Speaker 1: how they wrap it up, for the villain. I am
Speaker 1: going for the friendship, the camaraderie and finally getting a
Speaker 1: full movie of Deadpool and Wolverine, and in that aspect
Speaker 1: they pay it off. Yeah, if you want to look
Speaker 1: at everything else, maybe you might have issue.
Speaker 2: Many satisfied things in here, a lot of fun just
Speaker 2: we'll get to that. We'll get to the old lock
Speaker 2: to Goon in a few But they they do their jobs.
Speaker 1: This podcast might meander more than others because there are
Speaker 1: a lot of thoughts and I want to make sure
Speaker 1: that I get them all out there because and granted
Speaker 1: this movie is not three hours long like Endgame, but
Speaker 1: I think we did two and a half podcasts on that.
Speaker 2: And if you're just tuning in for a rapid reaction
Speaker 2: before you go to the movie, and you're gonna listen
Speaker 2: to the rest afterwards. I'll tell you right now. One
Speaker 2: post credit. Yes, not really meaningful going forward, but is
Speaker 2: funny for the movie.
Speaker 1: Pays off something from the movie, pays off a joke
Speaker 1: from the.
Speaker 2: Movie, but no mid credit. One post credit, yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: this movie. Speaking of this movie is written by Ryan Reynolds,
Speaker 2: whose only other writing credit was Deadpool two Upcoming Goo.
Speaker 2: He has something called boy Band he has written, which
Speaker 2: is interesting, especially considering some of the music in this movie.
Speaker 2: Also written by Rhet Reese and Paul Wernick. They are
Speaker 2: a writing team. I think or get one credit. Sou
Speaker 2: There's five writing credits on this movie, but I think
Speaker 2: because they are a writing team, they only get one,
Speaker 2: essentially paycheck, because I think you're only allowed up to four. Correct.
Speaker 1: I don't know the rules. As SAG goes, you are
Speaker 1: asking me questions. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: You are a SAG member. Uh recent Warnick. Their movies
Speaker 2: uh have been pretty good for the for the most part.
Speaker 2: They did Zombieland g I Joe Retaliation, Deadpool Life, Deadpool two, Zombieland,
Speaker 2: Double Tap six, Underground, Spiderhead, and Ghosted. So they've really
Speaker 2: jumped into the Netflix world the last couple of years. Coo.
Speaker 2: This team was also the creators of I think one
Speaker 2: of the best reality television shows ever, The Joe Schmoe Show.
Speaker 2: That was a hell of I think they brought it
Speaker 2: back for Hulu or Prime or something, but the original
Speaker 2: season of The Joe Schmoe Show incredible, incredible.
Speaker 1: Joe Schmoe better than Joe Millionaire.
Speaker 2: Uh Man, Joe Millionaire is pretty fucking good too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because who would ever want to be with a
Speaker 1: fuck construction worker? A handsome construction worker.
Speaker 2: They were also the creators on the show Twisted Metal,
Speaker 2: which was on I believe Paramount last year, which was
Speaker 2: a surprisingly fun show. Upcoming for these two, they're doing
Speaker 2: the Clue remake and also the Watchdog movie. Watchdog will
Speaker 2: be based based on that video game. The third writing
Speaker 2: credit here goes the zeb Wells, who you'd really only
Speaker 2: know from Robot Chicken of course, probably brought in for
Speaker 2: some of the comedy writing, some of the comedy lines.
Speaker 2: He also did or she I don't know who that is.
Speaker 2: They did one episode of she Hulk, so there was
Speaker 2: maybe the initial Marvel tie in. Upcoming, they're doing an
Speaker 2: episode of the Marvel Zombies mini series, and also a
Speaker 2: show called Star Wars Detours. I don't is Detours gonna
Speaker 2: be like a what if type of show? Is that
Speaker 2: we know?
Speaker 1: Or maybe it's just off to the side. It's not
Speaker 1: focusing on our Skywalker Ray story.
Speaker 2: It's going to be our main, our sacred timeline for
Speaker 2: lack of a better term. And then finally, this is
Speaker 2: Sean Lee's first writing credit. He's been a director for many,
Speaker 2: many years, his first writing credit on this movie. And
Speaker 2: of course these characters Goo are based on the characters
Speaker 2: created by Rob Leiffield and Fabian Nisiezza Ye and of
Speaker 2: course directed by Levy. You would know him and he
Speaker 2: kind of got his start in the Nickelodeon world. He
Speaker 2: directed episodes of Secret World of Alex Mack many from
Speaker 2: the famous Jet Jackson. He directed A Big Fat Liar,
Speaker 2: Just Married, Cheaper by the Dozen, the Unit at the
Speaker 2: Museum trilogy. I think that's really where he made his money.
Speaker 2: Date Night A Disappointment, Real Steel Underrated, also did that
Speaker 2: with Jackman yep, The Internship. He's also done eight episodes
Speaker 2: of Stranger Things. He of course directed Free Guy with
Speaker 2: Reynolds as well. As the Adam Project upcoming, he is
Speaker 2: going to be directing that Reynolds boy band movie. He's
Speaker 2: also got something called Starman on the Horizon and is
Speaker 2: also a director for one of the episodes in the
Speaker 2: final season of Stranger Things Two Things.
Speaker 1: Number one famous Jet Jackson was Disney don't say multipos serience.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: So everyone at home calmed down. We have fixed it.
Speaker 1: I know that you are up in arms about that. Also,
Speaker 1: are you Shoran's big fat liar and not agent Cody Banks.
Speaker 2: No, even though I looked at im dB, I'm still
Speaker 2: not sure.
Speaker 1: Back spent thirty minutes of his prep time making sure
Speaker 1: which Frankie Munez Prodgy worked.
Speaker 2: On good synopsis for Deadpool and Wolverine. I also had
Speaker 2: to piece this synopsis together because there wasn't a particularly
Speaker 2: good one out there. Deadpool's peaceful existence comes crashing down
Speaker 2: when the Time Variance Authority aka TVA recruits him to
Speaker 2: help safeguard the multiverse in order to save his own world.
Speaker 2: Deadpool teams up with Wolverine to defeat a common enemy.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I think that might be where some critics
Speaker 1: also don't love it. Where we are once again dealing
Speaker 1: with multiverse stuff. A lot of people have set sail
Speaker 1: on the verse movie going.
Speaker 2: That's fair now, as two viewers of forty five MCU
Speaker 2: properties in all of the original Marvel Studios movies, this
Speaker 2: is the other way. It's like very fulfilling and like
Speaker 2: really hits on notes that someone that didn't watch, you know,
Speaker 2: the Wolverine, it won't hit the same for them, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's it's got its pluses and minuses, you know.
Speaker 2: That's why, like so eighty one percent of the critics said, yes,
Speaker 2: good movie. I wonder if the audience score is going
Speaker 2: to be like ninety six. I think it's going to
Speaker 2: be very high.
Speaker 1: I'm curious how much of the audience is also sick.
Speaker 1: And they even make jokes about it in the movie
Speaker 1: that everybody is sick of the variants, everyone is sick
Speaker 1: of the multiverse stuff. But here we are anyways. But
Speaker 1: they also needed it to tell this story, so.
Speaker 2: Yep, very true. Gud. This movie stars, of course, Ryan
Speaker 2: Reynolds as Wade Wilson Slash.
Speaker 1: I'm out here. That might be something else that is
Speaker 1: working against this movie when it you know, some people
Speaker 1: who have Ryan Reynolds fatigue and when you are dealing
Speaker 1: with the Deadpool movie, Who's star is in those movies?
Speaker 2: Right, well, Ryan Reynolds. It's a good point. Yeah, really
Speaker 2: strong point there. Also, Hugh Jackman co star as Logan
Speaker 2: slash Wolverine, and I'll say this and we'll talk about
Speaker 2: it at length. He was unbelievable. Yes, it was so good.
Speaker 2: As good as Ryan Reynolds is his Deadpool and they've
Speaker 2: sort of become synonymous. Hugh Jackman as Wolverine is just
Speaker 2: a different level, Like there's very few characters that have
Speaker 2: approached that level.
Speaker 1: And then also, I don't know how much control he
Speaker 1: has over this, but I thought that he was also
Speaker 1: a very good sport when it came to like the
Speaker 1: jokes not only about his character but about him in general.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. And and as much as
Speaker 2: we all like Reynolds, I think there's a couple of
Speaker 2: emotional moments in this movie you're like, Wow, Hugh Jackman
Speaker 2: is a fucking amazing actor and it really showed in
Speaker 2: this movie. Emma corn is introduced here as Cassandra Nova,
Speaker 2: the villain I suppose the main villain of the movie. Uh,
Speaker 2: you have Matthew mcfaden as Mister Paradox, Marina Baker in
Speaker 2: Returns as Vanessa, Rob Delaney as Peter Leslie Uggams is
Speaker 2: blind Al, Karen Sony as Dopinder, Brianna Hildebrand as Negasonic
Speaker 2: teenage Warhead, Scioli Kutsana as Yukio, Stefan Kapich as Colossus,
Speaker 2: Lewis Tan as Shatterstar, Randall Reeder as Buck. That's the
Speaker 2: gentleman that wasn't allowed to speak, Uh, Tyler, that was good.
Speaker 1: Made me laugh.
Speaker 2: We had a couple of cameos that were in the the.
Speaker 1: These are the only cameos that we're gonna say right
Speaker 1: now before we get to spoilers, because these two, I
Speaker 1: believe were in two or three of the team that
Speaker 1: in a second two, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Featured prominently in the trailers. You had Aaron Stanford as
Speaker 2: Pyro and Tyler Mayne as Sabertooth, and then, of course,
Speaker 2: Gou you have Peggy the Dog as Dogpool aka Mary Puppins.
Speaker 1: So mac I ask you, is this the funniest fan
Speaker 1: service movie that we have gotten? It?
Speaker 2: Very well might be, just as a theater experience in general,
Speaker 2: It's one of the most fun times I've ever had
Speaker 2: the only thing I could come up with off the
Speaker 2: top of the dome. There might be a couple I'm
Speaker 2: not thinking of that was more fun in the moment,
Speaker 2: borat when we were fucking sixteen.
Speaker 1: So that wasn't fan services, no no, I was just.
Speaker 2: Talking in general theater experiences that tops this. But short
Speaker 2: of that, man, this is right up there. It was
Speaker 2: such a blast.
Speaker 1: Cause even if you are going into this as like
Speaker 1: a cynic being, like I don't want them just to
Speaker 1: spoon feed me all this stull these member berries, And yes,
Speaker 1: there are points in this movie where I was even like,
Speaker 1: well that's a bit much. But it's twenty five years
Speaker 1: of not only movies, because we've already seen movies referenced
Speaker 1: in other movies. But it's inside jokes. It's movie company turnover,
Speaker 1: and it's Hollywood rumor mill stuff that even if you
Speaker 1: are even if you're just watching the movies, you're not
Speaker 1: getting half the jokes. Like it's stuff that if you
Speaker 1: are a fanboy or fangirl of these properties, follow all
Speaker 1: the news about these movies, you get payoffs to certain
Speaker 1: things that if you aren't keeping up with all the
Speaker 1: current news with superhero movies, you're gonna miss some things
Speaker 1: and you'll have to have it explained to you after.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also do think though, that someone who's the
Speaker 2: casual viewer of the MCU and hasn't seen anything can
Speaker 2: watch this and still really enjoy it because a lot
Speaker 2: of the referential stuff goes back to pre MCU stuff. No,
Speaker 2: I'm aware of that, and in that case, most people
Speaker 2: have seen those movies, you know.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying it's beyond just the movies. It's the
Speaker 1: stuff off the movies that, like I just said, even
Speaker 1: if you're going into it being like I don't want
Speaker 1: all these things, it's references that are there for you
Speaker 1: and you are being paid off for following all this
Speaker 1: crap for twenty five years.
Speaker 2: Now, here's a question for you. Yes, is it the
Speaker 2: funniest MCU movie?
Speaker 1: It might be now that it's I think this. It
Speaker 1: might be because Ragnarok is really funny.
Speaker 2: That's the other one.
Speaker 1: Furst Guardians is really funny. Yeah, I guess it depends.
Speaker 1: Do you prefer the Ryan Reynolds style of comedy or
Speaker 1: do you prefer Taikawa. At least Taikawa T five is
Speaker 1: years ago before some people grew sour on him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the difference between the two, I guess to
Speaker 2: maybe help the listener if they're trying to delineate.
Speaker 1: One is from New zealand one is from Canada.
Speaker 2: A lot of the humor in this movie is quoting
Speaker 2: other movies or referencing other movies, much the way Deadpool does,
Speaker 2: whereas h James Gunn and Takaway t t that humorous
Speaker 2: humor you might quote in the future going forward, you know.
Speaker 2: So that's the difference there. So I guess you could
Speaker 2: argue there is a funnier movie or two, but this
Speaker 2: is in the conversation, and I would probably say it
Speaker 2: is the funniest.
Speaker 1: Because I think that I I lolled several times of this.
Speaker 2: I tackled I there.
Speaker 1: There was a couple jokes that I really did lose it.
Speaker 2: There was one word, one single word, that made me
Speaker 2: laugh for about a minute straight.
Speaker 1: They also do something in this and I always love
Speaker 1: this is someone finishes like a conversation and then the
Speaker 1: other person jumps back two conversations ago to be like, wait,
Speaker 1: why the fuck did you say this? And that always
Speaker 1: because that's how people talk like, they just kind of listen, listen, listen,
Speaker 1: and then they go, wait a second, why did you
Speaker 1: say this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, half listening and then your mind finally clicks. You're like, wait,
Speaker 2: what the fuck?
Speaker 1: What what do you say to me?
Speaker 2: Mac?
Speaker 1: So, like we talked about earlier with No Way Home,
Speaker 1: is this the most fun pants tenty MCU movie that
Speaker 1: we've gotten since Endgame?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is for sure. Now you I
Speaker 2: think if you're a huge Spider Man guy, maybe you
Speaker 2: lean that over this. But I'm a huge Wolverine guy,
Speaker 2: so I lean this over that as much as I
Speaker 2: do like Spider Man. I just felt like this was rough.
Speaker 2: This was a longer time coming because we've been talking
Speaker 2: about this forever. Whereas in No Way, No Way Home, Yes,
Speaker 2: we had a good Spider Man already.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like we needed to get back No. But
Speaker 1: so that movie had the best one. I think that movie, though,
Speaker 1: had better redemption for one of the Spider Men. So
Speaker 1: like in this one, you don't walk away going, man,
Speaker 1: I wish that we got more of this person.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: In that movie, you say, did we did we not
Speaker 1: give Andrew Garfield enough credit?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Probably so that. I mean that is a distinction
Speaker 2: to make between the two and that movie is obviously
Speaker 2: much more serious than this one as well, I.
Speaker 1: Was to say, and that one took itself way more serious.
Speaker 1: This one went into it being like, look, we're gonna
Speaker 1: give you a spectacle for the eyes and ears.
Speaker 2: I also feel like, of course this story isn't perfect
Speaker 2: or great. No, the strange stuff in that movie really
Speaker 2: bothered me, So I don't know if there's anything in
Speaker 2: this movie that really bothers me.
Speaker 1: Because they weren't taking it as serious. In this movie,
Speaker 1: things didn't bother me because they were still trying to
Speaker 1: continue a story and build upon the whole Marvel universe.
Speaker 1: In that movie, you kind of nitpick at things, being
Speaker 1: like I don't like this, I don't like this, I
Speaker 1: don't like this, whereas this one, it almost feels like
Speaker 1: a standalone like it's in the Marvel universe, but it's
Speaker 1: kind of just off on its own. And while I
Speaker 1: don't love where the villain ends up, or even the
Speaker 1: secondary villain, it's kind of like it's like secondary stuff
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think it's the downfalls of this
Speaker 2: movie I think are far overshadowed by what it does
Speaker 2: well and what it does great and what we've been
Speaker 2: anticipating and That's another thing that goes along with this
Speaker 2: as well, Like we also anticipated a lot in No
Speaker 2: Way Home, and on the mcu strange side of stuff,
Speaker 2: it fell short. Yeah, this didn't have to deal with that,
Speaker 2: like really at all?
Speaker 1: Do we just like Strange too much and he just
Speaker 1: keeps disappointing us. It's possible the character keeps disappointing us.
Speaker 1: Hope we're doing this to us. Yeah, Doctor Strange owns
Speaker 1: as an apology. Mac I have had that Madonna song
Speaker 1: stuck in my head for months.
Speaker 2: It's a This movie does a great job of music.
Speaker 2: It is very topical and referential. Even when it comes
Speaker 2: to the music, they did a good job picking the
Speaker 2: songs they used to including that mcdonna song.
Speaker 1: So in this they don't go with nexus beings, which
Speaker 1: is a character that is a part of all the
Speaker 1: worlds and whatnot. They go with anchor characters.
Speaker 2: This it's different, it's completely different. A nexus being is
Speaker 2: someone who's like beyond a next level is obviously vital
Speaker 2: of the universe, but vital to all the universe. Which, Yeah,
Speaker 2: whereas this they introduce anchor characters, which might be a
Speaker 2: variant of one character, and they give us this concept
Speaker 2: of which was easy enough for me to buy into.
Speaker 2: I suppose maybe some people issue with this is if
Speaker 2: the anchor character dies in that world or that universe.
Speaker 1: They don't matter anymore. The cops say, they don't matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the universe crumbles a little bit. So, and
Speaker 2: you know, in that respect, it mimicked across the Spider
Speaker 2: Verse a little bit in that they had these sort
Speaker 2: of anchor events, I forget what they called them, and
Speaker 2: if that event didn't happen, the world collapses. It was
Speaker 2: just somewhat similar to that.
Speaker 1: The movie also establishes that Deadpool is on Earth ten
Speaker 1: triple zero five. That's how they refer to.
Speaker 2: It, ten thousand plus five. So would it be hold
Speaker 2: on here to it would be one hundred thousand and five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is the same universe that Logan the movie
Speaker 1: Logan is on. But that doesn't mean that it's on
Speaker 1: the same world that the original X Men were on.
Speaker 2: No, it means specifically, it's.
Speaker 1: Not actually exactly That's what I was trying to get at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we we established that the Deadpool we've known and
Speaker 2: the Deadpool through these last three movies, even though we
Speaker 2: saw some X Men cameos does not operate in the
Speaker 2: same world either as the original X Men trilogy or
Speaker 2: as the in the X Men trilogy that we got
Speaker 2: in the twenty tens. It's in a completely separate world.
Speaker 2: And in this world is where the movie Logan happens.
Speaker 2: So yes, Logan X twenty three exists in the same
Speaker 2: world as Deadpool.
Speaker 1: All right, and the next question, we are gonna move
Speaker 1: to your sack, and that is will this movie reinvigorate,
Speaker 1: which is what a lot of critics are saying the MCU.
Speaker 1: We're gonna save that for your sacks, So stick around
Speaker 1: big market teas, big market tease. How about instead we
Speaker 1: get to the nonagon. Let's do it, all right, Mac,
Speaker 1: fun factor on this movie, and I think the fun
Speaker 1: factor is one of the big selling points action, blood, violence, jokes.
Speaker 1: I think, very very funny jokes. I think even beyond
Speaker 1: the references, this is still a very very funny movie.
Speaker 1: And it's just fun. It's fun, it's fan fun, it's
Speaker 1: fan factor.
Speaker 2: I totally agree. I have a really hard time coming
Speaker 2: up with a theater growing experience a movie seeing for
Speaker 2: the first time that was more fun than this one.
Speaker 2: And on top of it, and one thing, you didn't
Speaker 2: mention that. I just briefly mentioned the music was incredibly
Speaker 2: fun too. Definitely tongue in cheek at points, but they
Speaker 2: had a lot of fun with the music as well.
Speaker 1: Satisfactor And while maybe some of the events of the
Speaker 1: movie aren't necessarily satisfactory, just getting Wolverine and Deadpool on
Speaker 1: the screen together and a lot of it, it's not like, oh, sparingly, no,
Speaker 1: they're together for hour forty five of the movie. Two
Speaker 1: hours of the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'd say probably close to two hours, So.
Speaker 1: That is very satisfactory. I will say this though, and
Speaker 1: I blame Disney for this, putting so many spoilers in
Speaker 1: the trailers. Like I have no issue with people, you know,
Speaker 1: digging through stuff and putting it on Reddit, and if
Speaker 1: people want to find that, that's absolutely fine with me.
Speaker 1: It's when Disney puts characters that they are that would
Speaker 1: be amazing, satisfactory, just awesome cameos in there, when they
Speaker 1: put them in their trailers, that's annoying.
Speaker 2: I hear your overall point, your general point there. I
Speaker 2: don't agree with you with this movie, and that's because
Speaker 2: I was pretty deep into that stuff and was purposefully
Speaker 2: doing that and I still got two characters in here,
Speaker 2: one that I mostly expected, one I didn't expect at all.
Speaker 2: That nice, so amazing, I know, satisfying.
Speaker 1: There's one and I don't I don't even want to
Speaker 1: say it right now, because some people were able to
Speaker 1: avoid trailers. Yeah, but there's one character that if they
Speaker 1: didn't show in a trailer and they just popped popped
Speaker 1: them on us, I would have gotten chills.
Speaker 2: But because I knew about it, that character what I'm
Speaker 2: not even talking about it.
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm talking about that character. I am
Speaker 1: talking about that character.
Speaker 2: All right. Yeah, I don't I agree with your point,
Speaker 2: but that's fair.
Speaker 1: I don't agree with anything you've ever said, So how
Speaker 1: do you deal with that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But speaking on satisfactor, Yes, it was really really
Speaker 2: satisfying to see Hugh Jackman back in this role because
Speaker 2: you think back to twenty seventeen's logan, you thought that
Speaker 2: was it. Then rumors started a couple of years ago
Speaker 2: before they announced this movie that he would be coming back,
Speaker 2: and so that's a really long time in between seeing
Speaker 2: him as Wolverine. You know, I got my little Wolverine
Speaker 2: toys here obviously noted Wolverine guy. Yeah, we might have
Speaker 2: the same little.
Speaker 1: Guy toy boys over here.
Speaker 2: So I wish he could play and they joke about
Speaker 2: this in the movie. I wish he could play Wolverine
Speaker 2: forever because he's fucking perfect. Yeah, So it was really
Speaker 2: satisfying to see him back in that role. And also
Speaker 2: it was satisfying to be to see him be so
Speaker 2: vital to the plot of the movie and not just
Speaker 2: be the sidekick.
Speaker 1: Right, and he has his own issues that he's dealing
Speaker 1: with and they're trying to figure out Borometer. It did
Speaker 1: take a little bit for me. It wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 1: tip to tail excitement. There were parts where I was like,
Speaker 1: this is dragging a smidge and it was really end
Speaker 1: of second, beginning of third and then dealing with the
Speaker 1: final villain stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, maybe the worst part about this
Speaker 2: movie is the TVA and how they were represented and
Speaker 2: what they did, And there was a little bit of
Speaker 2: bore surrounding TVA involved stuff. Well, I will fully agree
Speaker 2: with you on.
Speaker 1: That, Aquator. It is better than twenty seventeen's Aquaman Jason
Speaker 1: Momoa Halloween. I actually believe that this movie will not
Speaker 1: wane over time. I have a feeling because this is
Speaker 1: the first time in a while that I want to
Speaker 1: rewatch an mcu Marvel movie almost immediately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agree. It's it's it's the first movie in
Speaker 2: a while I'm excited to watch, like a New rock
Speaker 2: Stars breakdown of stills and then the point out easter
Speaker 2: eggs that I'm missed because I was having so much
Speaker 2: fun watching the movie that I surely miss stuff. And
Speaker 2: this is also the first Marvel movie in a while
Speaker 2: since Maybe No Way Home. That would be fun to
Speaker 2: watch with friends knowing what's coming and watching their reactions,
Speaker 2: because that's gonna be pretty satisfying.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm team Screen Crush, Ryan Airy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like New rock Stars more. Screen Crush is solid.
Speaker 2: The British guy is uh which heavy spoilers. Heavy spoilers,
Speaker 2: They're okay.
Speaker 1: I don't love them.
Speaker 2: I'm not as entertaining.
Speaker 1: I go screencross New rock Stars then heavy spoilers, but
Speaker 1: I almost sometimes Ryan Airy does enough to cover for
Speaker 1: both of them.
Speaker 2: I like New rock Stars number one, but Screen Crush
Speaker 2: does a great job.
Speaker 1: Mac Pants, Ten City, Excite, Mike Mania, And we really
Speaker 1: can't talk about them here because I don't want to
Speaker 1: spoil any But like I said, one of the big
Speaker 1: selling points of this movie is the pants tents.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's essentially a movie that started with probably four
Speaker 2: or five pants tents, and they just connect the tents
Speaker 2: along the line.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, it does feel like they said, Okay,
Speaker 1: we want or we need in this movie to have
Speaker 1: these ten things and we don't care how you connect them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, which is again a little bit like No
Speaker 2: Way Home. They were like, all right, going in, we
Speaker 2: know we got X, Y Z. Let's just connect those
Speaker 2: and see how the movie can.
Speaker 1: No. But the issue and I'm not trying to pile
Speaker 1: on No Way Home. But No Way Home had another
Speaker 1: responsibility of getting us to another Spider Man movie and
Speaker 1: then getting us to more MCU stuff.
Speaker 2: It had more responsibility for this movie.
Speaker 1: They could wrap it up here and that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: Is that a spoiler?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, Mac, when life gives you plemons, you make plemonade.
Speaker 1: And I will talk about mine and spoilers my first one,
Speaker 1: because I think this guy absolutely stole the show.
Speaker 2: Oh I, we have the same same point here on
Speaker 2: this one. It was it was just ugh, talk about
Speaker 2: satisfying fun factor. It was everything rolled into one and
Speaker 2: I can't praise the person who played the role enough.
Speaker 1: Max credit Union, you deserve so much credit. Mac who
Speaker 1: are you giving credit to?
Speaker 2: Again? I'm gonna harp on it maybe for the rest
Speaker 2: of my life. Jackman in this role is perfect, and
Speaker 2: specifically in this movie, he gives it that emotional gravitas
Speaker 2: that it was kind of missing, as I think we've
Speaker 2: had a little bit of trouble with the emotions in
Speaker 2: the past couple of Deadpool movies. I think this has
Speaker 2: a better emotional center than those two movies do, which
Speaker 2: takes this movie up a notch from those two. Of course,
Speaker 2: you do feel for Wade and what he's gone through,
Speaker 2: but because Deadpool is the character he is, I just
Speaker 2: think it's inherently a little less emotional. There's specifically there's
Speaker 2: a couple monologues, but specifically one probably about halfway through
Speaker 2: this movie, a Jackman monologue that was unbelievable, Like he
Speaker 2: he speaks for like two straight minutes and it's fucking incredible.
Speaker 1: I'll give credit to both of them because those to
Speaker 1: truly carry the movie.
Speaker 2: And you know what, like it's hard to not give
Speaker 2: credit to Reynolds like kind of almost stepping back and
Speaker 2: being the secondary star in his own franchise, So you
Speaker 2: got to you gotta give him credit for that.
Speaker 1: For those of you tardy to the Mac and Goo party,
Speaker 1: we rate everything on a forty hot dog ratings system.
Speaker 1: Mac the Floor is yours.
Speaker 2: We can't underscore how much of a fucking blast this
Speaker 2: movie is. It's just was such such a fun theater experience.
Speaker 2: And again, I'm wanting my friends to see this so
Speaker 2: we can talk about it and talk about some of
Speaker 2: the references and cameos. But also again, the story isn't
Speaker 2: the best right off the top, but the combination of
Speaker 2: the characters that we get in here, and the fight
Speaker 2: scenes and the tent pole scenes, this is my most
Speaker 2: enjoyable theater experience in a long, long time. Jackman's monologues,
Speaker 2: especially the one in the Honda Odyssey that I referenced
Speaker 2: a minute ago before There's this big moment, adds to
Speaker 2: the depth and emotion that this movie absolutely needed. Without those,
Speaker 2: this movie just wouldn't have hit his hard or maybe
Speaker 2: would have fallen flat. Who knows. But back to the story,
Speaker 2: the Paradox character kind of sucked, Yeah, kind of sucked.
Speaker 2: It was really hard to believe what was going on
Speaker 2: at the TVA if you were someone that watched Loki
Speaker 2: season two. It just didn't quite jive with the TVA
Speaker 2: that we ended up with at the end of season two.
Speaker 2: To me, it really didn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: How there was like no oversight to not get into
Speaker 2: spoilers yet, it just didn't make a lot of sense
Speaker 2: to me when you talk about that. In a few
Speaker 2: as well, we're introduced to Sandra Nova in this movie
Speaker 2: as the main bad guy, the main villain. I think
Speaker 2: for the most part, people were like me when it
Speaker 2: comes to her. We just knew that she was Charles's
Speaker 2: twin and like died in the womb, he killed her
Speaker 2: in the womb, and that's all you really need to
Speaker 2: know about it. You don't need to know anything more
Speaker 2: going in, which was good. Her powers were sweet. The
Speaker 2: visuals on her powers, like with the hands and the
Speaker 2: fingers in the head were fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: He's also bald is always get inside with the ball.
Speaker 2: But again, when it comes to story, what she ends
Speaker 2: up doing I didn't think was great. I thought her
Speaker 2: motivations were good. I could see why she was motivated
Speaker 2: to do something what she chooses to do. I didn't
Speaker 2: love it, not.
Speaker 1: To step on you, but her motivations were super generic.
Speaker 2: There was a little bit of a tie in and
Speaker 2: twisting there that I thought the motivation was good enough,
Speaker 2: but again I don't like how that played out. A
Speaker 2: note two is you probably need to have seen Logan
Speaker 2: for several scenes to really work for you in this movie,
Speaker 2: on top of maybe Loki season two and general Marvel knowledge.
Speaker 2: So like we talked about already, maybe that drops it
Speaker 2: down for some people. But I also think you didn't
Speaker 2: really need any Deadpool knowledge from the other two movies.
Speaker 2: Going like you understood immediately the impact of his friends
Speaker 2: and family. He didn't need to know much more than that. Also,
Speaker 2: speaking of Deadpool's friends and family, oive Marina Backer and
Speaker 2: she is still looking very very good.
Speaker 1: Dell Hawk and piss.
Speaker 2: Ku. I have this at thirty seven hot Dogs. I've
Speaker 2: got it number eight in the MCU, behind a pretty
Speaker 2: stacked top seven. I think it's either at the back
Speaker 2: end of tier two or at the top of tier
Speaker 2: three in those move in that in that list of movies,
Speaker 2: of course, the top tier would be the three forty
Speaker 2: Doggers for me, Infinity War Endgame and Guardians and then
Speaker 2: the next ones. I think this might be in that tier.
Speaker 2: This is also very comfortably my number two movie of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, behind Doode and Two. There's a gap
Speaker 2: between Dude and two and this, and then there's a
Speaker 2: gap between this and everything else. I also think this
Speaker 2: is the best of the three Deadpool movies. I would
Speaker 2: understand why, and I think, you know, just listening to
Speaker 2: our last ten to fifteen minutes, I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people would understand why. People might prefer those other
Speaker 2: two movies, but maybe more coherent or better stories that
Speaker 2: are Deadpool stories. Maybe because this does rely heavily on
Speaker 2: logan Slash Wolverine stuff.
Speaker 1: Slash cameos, slash needing, a bunch of other stuff. Mac
Speaker 1: I will say this is that we are the right
Speaker 1: audience for this movie, no doubt, no. That is playing
Speaker 1: a huge part of this, because if you aren't the
Speaker 1: right audience for this movie, there are tons of things
Speaker 1: to pick apart, but for us, blood, Guts, Knives. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I can say the next word, so
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm.
Speaker 2: Not gonna say salutes, Okay, it's.
Speaker 1: An eminem song, right, I would have said it, that's
Speaker 1: a part of an eminem song.
Speaker 2: You don't want to fuck with Shady? Why not Shady?
Speaker 2: Well fucking kill Mac.
Speaker 1: I am still so mad at Disney for what they
Speaker 1: did with the cameos and the trailer, and I just
Speaker 1: like they would have absolutely blasted my brain. But even
Speaker 1: saying that, I still had a blast with most of them,
Speaker 1: and the ones that I didn't love, they got them
Speaker 1: out of there pretty quick. They didn't waste their time
Speaker 1: on the cameos that they thought people didn't care about.
Speaker 1: I did feel like the was a bit too comic bookie,
Speaker 1: a bit too generic, But when you look back at
Speaker 1: the other Deadpool movies, they sneaky have very generic endings too,
Speaker 1: when they try to be like, well, we're not your
Speaker 1: daddy's comic book movie, but then they they end up
Speaker 1: kind of being that, just with an R rating.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually think I have such a big issue
Speaker 2: with the first Deadpool movie because it does that for
Speaker 2: two thirds of it, and then the final third of
Speaker 2: it is like every comic book movie you've ever seen.
Speaker 1: So I guess that it does carry on in the
Speaker 1: Deadpool trend of like the villains aren't great.
Speaker 2: But they also I was thinking, I'm glad you brought
Speaker 2: this up. The villains in the three movies have been great,
Speaker 2: but they also haven't been able to establish Deadpool in
Speaker 2: a broader universe and establish this bigger rivalry with a
Speaker 2: bigger villain or bring in a bigger villain because they
Speaker 2: haven't had the rights to bigger villains, and that's an
Speaker 2: issue there.
Speaker 1: Also, I think they've all had accents. Are they all British?
Speaker 1: That's a strong What was Ajax? Was Ajax British? They've
Speaker 1: definitely all had accents.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, while I love Hugh Jackman and it's awesome seeing
Speaker 1: him in the suit, it took me a while to
Speaker 1: care about this Wolverine, and I'm still not sure how
Speaker 1: much I actually do because when Logan died, I said
Speaker 1: goodbye to that character, and this one is almost too
Speaker 1: similar to the Logan that we got in Logan. Like,
Speaker 1: if they had a slightly different take on it, I
Speaker 1: think I would have been more into it. But because
Speaker 1: it was very similar to an old man Logan who's
Speaker 1: trying to chase his you know, bad times away with
Speaker 1: Booze and he's having difficulties with the claws and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. It's a little similar.
Speaker 2: I don't really agree with you on that one, because
Speaker 2: the logan we saw on Logan was an old man
Speaker 2: Loganish and obviously enjoyed his booze, as Logan does, but
Speaker 2: that Logan was caring for Charles Xavier and doing everything
Speaker 2: he could for that, whereas this Logan was dejected, wanted
Speaker 2: nothing to do with this past, wanted the drinks so
Speaker 2: away and do nothing else in life. And I think
Speaker 2: it's a very clear, like very clear difference from the
Speaker 2: Logan that we saw.
Speaker 1: I think it also gets into with the whole multiverse
Speaker 1: stuff and pulling variants out, and like, if you want
Speaker 1: to compare it to Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three
Speaker 1: with Gomorra, I didn't necessarily care about Gomora in that movie,
Speaker 1: but what I cared about when it came to her
Speaker 1: character was Peter's grief and dealing with that character. And
Speaker 1: while we did get a smidge of that in this movie,
Speaker 1: that's what carried that variant for me.
Speaker 2: You don't think that the character tie in was similar
Speaker 2: to that.
Speaker 1: It helped, Okay, it helped, but it didn't have the
Speaker 1: same thing for me. Also, a lot of the sendoffs
Speaker 1: like these emotional like, well, these characters didn't get sendoffs.
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of them needed send offs.
Speaker 1: So a couple of them just flat out stunk. And
Speaker 1: while it's funny that we brought them back, it wasn't
Speaker 1: like something like, oh, I wish they gave so and
Speaker 1: so their comeuppins their or their their flowers because they
Speaker 1: needed it. Where Like even when it came to like
Speaker 1: the Deadpool and Logan stuff, we've already gotten a really
Speaker 1: good send off to Logan in the past. With Deadpool,
Speaker 1: we didn't really get anything there either, But I don't
Speaker 1: want to get into any of the spoiler stuff there.
Speaker 1: But the whole thing, though, is that this story is
Speaker 1: pretty simple. It's a pretty easy buddy cop going across
Speaker 1: the desert trying to solve this issue get back to
Speaker 1: the home. And so what I like about that is
Speaker 1: that they didn't overcomplicate what the story is. They just
Speaker 1: left it open for fun. They left it open for
Speaker 1: these two actors to play their characters, to bring in
Speaker 1: other fun characters, and just let them have fun and
Speaker 1: let us have fun with them. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what I appreciate the most about this movie where the
Speaker 1: story isn't the best, the ending isn't the best, but
Speaker 1: that's not what I'm here for. I'm here for these
Speaker 1: two characters on the screen, and that's what they gave us.
Speaker 1: It's a fun ride with that. There's tons of fight scenes.
Speaker 1: They take a lot of shots at Disney, and I
Speaker 1: really appreciate that Disney was willing to take those shots.
Speaker 1: Reynolds and Jackman are great in this movie. Credit to
Speaker 1: all the action, because I want to say this is
Speaker 1: that I think everything in this movie is done in
Speaker 1: the daylight. It's all bright. You can see exactly what's
Speaker 1: happening in every single fight scene. Sometimes it does look
Speaker 1: a little computer generated and a little bit wonky, but
Speaker 1: I don't care because they give you so much of it,
Speaker 1: and so much of it looks amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just by doing that, it has shit on
Speaker 2: every DC movie ever.
Speaker 1: So with all that said, Mac, I have this. I
Speaker 1: settled on thirty five. Thirty five was right where I
Speaker 1: was at, but then I looked at my MCU and
Speaker 1: I think I would take it over the first Avengers movie,
Speaker 1: which I think I had at thirty six, and that's
Speaker 1: at number T ten. And then also right around like
Speaker 1: Black Panther. So I would have it anywhere from ten
Speaker 1: to twelve with the First Avengers and with Black Panther,
Speaker 1: but then above, say a Wan Division, Guardians of the
Speaker 1: Galaxy Volume three, Doctor Strange, but I would have it
Speaker 1: below Iron Man.
Speaker 2: That's a very similar range to me. Let me let
Speaker 2: me read. So I'll read you the seven movies that
Speaker 2: I have ahead of it, yea to give you an
Speaker 2: idea of what that those top two tiers are. So
Speaker 2: of course Infinity War, Guardians Endgame that I have thor
Speaker 2: Ragnarok kind of starting that second tier with Black Panther,
Speaker 2: Homecoming and Winter Soldier, and then I either have Deadpole
Speaker 2: and Wolverine right there at the end of that tier,
Speaker 2: or starting the next tier where I have that Guardians two,
Speaker 2: Love and Thunder. I still enjoy quite a bit the
Speaker 2: first Avengers movie. I have that eleventh Guardians Volume three,
Speaker 2: is that right there?
Speaker 1: That's enough?
Speaker 2: Yeah, at twelve so and then actually No Way Home
Speaker 2: at thirteen, so No Way Home might end that tier
Speaker 2: that this starts, but roughly in the same tier, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so like the only show that I would
Speaker 1: first off is X Men, the animated series an MCU
Speaker 1: show are we calling it that? I don't know yet,
Speaker 1: so I would have that above this as well. And
Speaker 1: I loved X Men the animated series, and like like,
Speaker 1: I have Loki above it on my tiering. But I've
Speaker 1: always said this movies over television, so give me that.
Speaker 2: Loki and Hawkeye would be just behind this, but in
Speaker 2: the conversation for sure.
Speaker 1: And then I have at number two on the year.
Speaker 1: But that's only it's not only because but I do
Speaker 1: think that there is quite a gap between June two
Speaker 1: and then say the fall guy in Twisters, like, so
Speaker 1: it's gonna fall right in between.
Speaker 2: Pretty mets of mets year for movies, that's for sure. Mac.
Speaker 1: Should we start spoiling.
Speaker 2: Spiless spoilers, let's jump.
Speaker 1: Back, that's a rewind feature. I just did it to
Speaker 1: the Plemonade, and the Plemonade needs to go to the
Speaker 1: idea to put this guy in the movie to know
Speaker 1: exactly all the turmoil that went on off screen, write
Speaker 1: that into the character. And also Channing Tatum playing Gambit
Speaker 1: because the let's say fifteen minutes that he's in the movie,
Speaker 1: he fucking kills it.
Speaker 2: Yep. Channing Tatum finally gets his chance to play Gambit.
Speaker 2: They've been talking about a Gambit movie for I don't
Speaker 2: know ten years, eight years now, and Channing Tatum does,
Speaker 2: I think as good of a job as anyone could
Speaker 2: have done, being this fun, goofy version of Gambit and
Speaker 2: also knowing that this is probably what he was kind
Speaker 2: of workshopping for the character too, is like very funny,
Speaker 2: and there's everything that came out of his mouth was
Speaker 2: fucking hysterical.
Speaker 1: Because there were always stories of like, well, he's having
Speaker 1: a tough time with the dialect, or they're having a
Speaker 1: tough time with the tone of the movie, or uh,
Speaker 1: when that movie was canceled, went into like a bit
Speaker 1: of uh, like a character depression type of thing because
Speaker 1: it was never gonna be made, and they put all
Speaker 1: of that into the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was perfect, And yeah, I even mostly expected
Speaker 2: to see this character based off what I had read,
Speaker 2: and it was still so awesome to finally see it,
Speaker 2: see him in that in that uniform, see him use
Speaker 2: his powers, had super killed. Yeah, Yeah, it was fucking great.
Speaker 2: I just I guess I should have figured they would
Speaker 2: have gone this route with it instead of like a
Speaker 2: super serious Gambit. But I'm telling you right now, that
Speaker 2: this this is the funniest character I've seen on screen
Speaker 2: in a long time. It was so fucking good, so funny.
Speaker 1: And Deadpool's reaction to him was so so funny. I
Speaker 1: like that absolutely, that scene in the the the little
Speaker 1: hut there.
Speaker 2: Where the lair, the cave.
Speaker 1: First off, beside Gambit, we also got Electra, but we
Speaker 1: were kind of expecting Electra, and we got fucking Blade.
Speaker 2: Yes, h Wesley Snipes as Blade, which I did not
Speaker 2: expect to know again neither reading stuff online. I'm sure
Speaker 2: I might have come across his name or his character,
Speaker 2: but it was not one of the ones, one of
Speaker 2: the top options. And man, wasn't so satisfying to see
Speaker 2: him play Blade again. Just to see Blade in general
Speaker 2: was satisfying and have it be Wesley Snipes was so
Speaker 2: fucking good. And of course, by the way, we were
Speaker 2: in a theater with I don't know, maybe like forty critics,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to say, legitimate pop for Wesley Snipes.
Speaker 2: Like so, I haven't seen Wesley Snipes in anything in years,
Speaker 2: never mind as fucking Blade. So that was really good.
Speaker 2: But two things I thought were great here and one
Speaker 2: maybe really meaningful going forward. Maybe we can touch back.
Speaker 2: At the end, he says, matter of factly, there will
Speaker 2: only ever be one Blade, and Deadpool looks directly at
Speaker 2: the camera. Yeah, is that Kevin Faigey telling us, Hey,
Speaker 2: Marhirsch law Ali is Blade is fucking dead?
Speaker 1: Possibly possibly because they also they've talked about downsizing their
Speaker 1: schedules and stuff too.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was very purposefully done.
Speaker 1: And I think my favorite joke from the Blade stuff
Speaker 1: is when he tells Deadpool slash Ryan Reynolds that I
Speaker 1: never liked you because Ryan Reynolds was in Blade Trinity
Speaker 1: and Pat Oswald always tells stories of like how crazy
Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes was on that movie and how he didn't
Speaker 1: like to be upstaged, and a young Ryan Reynolds would
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So another perfect tie in with a character there.
Speaker 2: And then Gou. Of course, the fourth member of this
Speaker 2: void team of Electra, Blade and Gambit is not other
Speaker 2: than X twenty three, played again by Daphney Kean, a
Speaker 2: much older Daphne Keen. She looks like a woman now
Speaker 2: compared to a child that she did in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: and she ends up playing a pretty vital role in
Speaker 2: this movie, both emotionally in motivations and in the big
Speaker 2: fight scene. Albeit I guess a brief fifteen or twenty minutes,
Speaker 2: but a very vital fifteen or twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: I would have loved it if they didn't have her
Speaker 1: come into the hut and then she showed up later
Speaker 1: and then she walked down there to Wolverine when he's
Speaker 1: sitting by himself, and that's like the first time that
Speaker 1: you see her, and then she gives him that speech.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, I'm also splitting hairs there. But my my
Speaker 1: main thing with that character is I wish they didn't
Speaker 1: put her in the fucking trailer.
Speaker 2: I could agree with you on that one character. I
Speaker 2: do think that's the one that we definitely all expected
Speaker 2: to get, though, so like, I don't think at that
Speaker 2: point they were really holding anything back. That's why I
Speaker 2: don't think it's was that big of a spoiler or
Speaker 2: not to say her name earlier, but she wasn't in
Speaker 2: the IMDb critic so clearly they were trying to hold
Speaker 2: her back a little bit. But she's she's also she's
Speaker 2: also doing media for the movie as well.
Speaker 1: So Jennifer Gardner also gave us a great line of oh,
Speaker 1: is there a Daredevil here, and she was nope.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and oh sorry, she goes, no, it's okay, No,
Speaker 2: it's okay.
Speaker 1: That's of course ben affleck her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a great Garner afflict.
Speaker 1: And then I think the second best cameo would be
Speaker 1: Chris Evans. And they want you to believe that maybe
Speaker 1: that's Captain America. Yeah, no, no, no, And granted I
Speaker 1: could kind of tell from the start by the way
Speaker 1: he was talking, but Johnny Storm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Evans reprising his role as Johnny Storm from
Speaker 2: the two Fantastic Four movies from the two thousands, and
Speaker 2: they do a great job masking it. For about a
Speaker 2: minute as he's in these tatters in the void, you
Speaker 2: see a little glimpse of red from something I don't
Speaker 2: know what he had on there, and then his first
Speaker 2: like I don't know, five lines or dialogue or cap
Speaker 2: ish and Deadpool wades getting excited to fight with cap
Speaker 2: turns out he's Johnny Storm flame on shoots into the
Speaker 2: sky and has a very brief shine, very briefly brightly.
Speaker 1: I also loved because before Chris Evans became Captain America,
Speaker 1: he always played this dickheadish character in almost every one
Speaker 1: of his but he dialed right into that pre cap character. Yeah, perfectly,
Speaker 1: it was. Every single line was delivered just like a
Speaker 1: pre twenty oh nine Chris Evans.
Speaker 2: He felt like Johnny Storm. Yeah. It was fucking great.
Speaker 2: I love it. I loved it, dude. Yet another I
Speaker 2: guess this might be the top cameo for some folks
Speaker 2: as well. And a massive shot at the DC universe
Speaker 2: is Henry Cavill pops up as a Wolverine variant for
Speaker 2: I don't know eight seconds here.
Speaker 1: Credit to Henry Cavill. Bigger than Hugh Jackman, like the
Speaker 1: noticeably giant, huge, hold.
Speaker 2: The masks huge, great fucking see.
Speaker 1: But I'll also say this is that not having Daniel
Speaker 1: Radcliffe in this, do you think that hints that maybe
Speaker 1: he's a Wolverine in the future and they didn't want
Speaker 1: to blow their load on this.
Speaker 2: I think there's something to that over that idea of
Speaker 2: they wanted to limit who plays the variants to keep
Speaker 2: their option open going.
Speaker 1: For kind of like in Multiverse of Madness, how they
Speaker 1: had John Krasinski in there and then they just said,
Speaker 1: well that was a fun little.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like knowing he wasn't gonna be there going forward,
Speaker 2: so we'll waste him here, and I think that's the
Speaker 2: same with Cavell. Another one here that maybe someone could
Speaker 2: have picked up on screen. This I didn't real and
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: Looking at this act the entire movie because him and
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds are great friends off screen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rob mclaney obviously always Sonny, and they own Wrexham together.
Speaker 2: There spend lots of time together. He apparently plays one
Speaker 2: of the TVA soldiers in here, which is a fun
Speaker 2: little nod. It's like Daniel Craig playing a stormtrooper. They
Speaker 2: must have had his face covered though, because I didn't
Speaker 2: notice him at all.
Speaker 1: And then outside of Gambit, because Gambit made me laugh
Speaker 1: almost every single line, I lolled, I cackled, I had
Speaker 1: a good old fun time.
Speaker 2: Go the word that killed me for a full minute,
Speaker 2: and I was trying to contain my laughter because it
Speaker 2: was not a pretty empty theater, so you could hear
Speaker 2: people snickering. The way I was is in this big,
Speaker 2: massive moment in the Honda Odyssey, right before Dead Pulling
Speaker 2: Wolverine get into their second fight, Laverne tells him to
Speaker 2: say one more word, and then there's like a eight
Speaker 2: second pause, which makes you believe he's finally gonna shut
Speaker 2: up and not say anything, and he utters the word goubernator,
Speaker 2: which is just like, that's an incredibly funny word to
Speaker 2: say and hear. And whoever came up with that, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was Reynolds in the moment that
Speaker 2: probly I'm sure they did forty takes there that couldn't
Speaker 2: have been. You can't find a funnier word to say
Speaker 2: in that moment. It was fucking incredible. It was so good.
Speaker 2: Another one that killed me was towards the end of
Speaker 2: the movie when we had nice Pool, who we'll get
Speaker 2: to it a couple seconds as well. He goes, I
Speaker 2: can break the fourth wall too, and he turns to
Speaker 2: the camera and just goes the proposal.
Speaker 1: I also, I think my favorite line of the movie
Speaker 1: is when Eliath first shows up and Deadpool goes, that's
Speaker 1: from Loki Season one, episode five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a great one as well. And then
Speaker 2: at the very beginning actually and his birthday party, when
Speaker 2: the guy that wasn't supposed to speak, yeah, utters a line.
Speaker 2: He goes, what are you fucking improvising? What do you do?
Speaker 1: He's an extra, he's not allowed to talk. We don't
Speaker 1: want to pay you for this movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then they also did a really good job
Speaker 2: with that one TVA tech just like fawning over both
Speaker 2: Deadpool and Wolverine. That was some really good stuff too.
Speaker 1: Also in the movie, Deadpool gets Johnny Storm killed by
Speaker 1: claiming that Johnny said this stuff about Cassandra Nova and
Speaker 1: the entire movie logan's like, you got him fucking killed.
Speaker 1: He didn't say any of that shit. And then the
Speaker 1: post credit scene is Deadpool showing a tape of Chris
Speaker 1: Evans saying word for word in the Johnny Storm voice
Speaker 1: the exact same thing, like.
Speaker 2: A minute straight of insults, which was like, so hard
Speaker 2: to believe. So I love that they called back to that.
Speaker 2: It was a great post.
Speaker 1: They also said something about sending her to bald Hell,
Speaker 1: which I thought was so fucking funny.
Speaker 2: A couple other things in here. I guess one more
Speaker 2: thing before we really get into the nitty gritty stuff
Speaker 2: is maybe the major jumping off point for the movie
Speaker 2: and for the Deadpool character was Deadpool going back in
Speaker 2: time to twenty eighteen and applying and Earth six, Yeah,
Speaker 2: on our sacred timeline Earth six one six and trying
Speaker 2: to apply for the Avengers, he meets with Happy Hogan,
Speaker 2: and Happy Hogan just kind of okay, buddies him and
Speaker 2: ushers him out, and that's sort of how we end
Speaker 2: up in the Deadpool story. That's really the motivation to
Speaker 2: go from there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was that and then him retiring the character.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also credit to Goostra Damis. After seeing the first trailer,
Speaker 1: I pointed out that it looks like Wade and Vanessa
Speaker 1: are no longer together, and everyone said, goo, how are
Speaker 1: you picking that up?
Speaker 2: I did? They all said that everyone you speaking of
Speaker 2: our sacred timeline and the MCU going forward. At the
Speaker 2: end of this movie, we see Logan in X twenty
Speaker 2: three in Earth one thousand or ten thousand and five
Speaker 2: with Deadpool and friends. So where do we see them next?
Speaker 2: Do we see them next? Because they're not in our
Speaker 2: sacred timeline, they're not on Earth six one six. What's
Speaker 2: gonna happen with them going on?
Speaker 1: That's a good question, because I do think Deadpool moving
Speaker 1: forward if you're gonna use the character, because I I
Speaker 1: also would be okay if they If this was just
Speaker 1: his final movie, I think this is a good way
Speaker 1: to go out. But if he's in another movie. It's
Speaker 1: gonna have to be a team up with say a
Speaker 1: Spider Man maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, there's only so many ways they can
Speaker 2: go about it now, So I wonder. I think the
Speaker 2: character we have a chance of seeing most from this
Speaker 2: movie is probably X twenty three. She's the one that
Speaker 2: makes the movie.
Speaker 1: I would love to see her again.
Speaker 2: Yes, that would be great. And she did a great job.
Speaker 2: And I loved how in the big fight scene her
Speaker 2: costume was just the glasses.
Speaker 1: He put the glasses on.
Speaker 2: Sell the backpack so good they I was.
Speaker 1: Glad the backpack. You know it had a purpose. It
Speaker 1: was to put Juggernaut's helmet in there.
Speaker 2: Not a bad plan either, I don't see.
Speaker 1: He's also just so good at just uh just screw
Speaker 1: grunting as she runs.
Speaker 2: Yeah great, uh yeah. So so those those two characters
Speaker 2: are Cassander Nova in Paradox. So Paradox not having the
Speaker 2: oversight from the TVA wasn't believable to me that that
Speaker 2: hurt this movie.
Speaker 1: Because he also needed three days to get his plan going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you have seventy two hours, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, fine, he's building this fucking world eading machine
Speaker 2: wherever the hell they called it. Uh. Second to that,
Speaker 2: I liked the motivation that Cassander Noova gets double crossed
Speaker 2: by Paradox and really she's the big bat of this movie.
Speaker 2: I don't like that she immediately wants to go and.
Speaker 1: Just kick kill every world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that wasn't great.
Speaker 1: And then how she ends the movie after being I think,
Speaker 1: like a pretty cool character up until she goes to
Speaker 1: ten triple zero five, Like as soon as she gets there,
Speaker 1: she just attaches herself to a machine.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was a little bit weak. It did
Speaker 2: give us a nice Deadpool and Wolverine scene.
Speaker 1: No, but I also didn't love that one either, because
Speaker 1: I mean, like that's just kind of like the comic
Speaker 1: bookie ending once again. But the journey get there was
Speaker 1: pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the idea that they get told like
Speaker 2: no one being can handle the matter and the anti matter,
Speaker 2: but they used two beings so they came out together
Speaker 2: and really like underscores like the point of the whole movie.
Speaker 2: So I was okay with that part. I'm I'm interested
Speaker 2: to see. Like So this didn't end up really being
Speaker 2: a soft launch for the X Men and the MCU,
Speaker 2: which I expected a little bit of that. Maybe X
Speaker 2: twenty three is the soft launch here, but that's something
Speaker 2: like going forward we're still left wondering about. And additionally,
Speaker 2: which I kind of alluded to before the X Men cameo,
Speaker 2: we get in Deadpool two. Those X Men technically were
Speaker 2: at the X Men we actually knew. They were just
Speaker 2: variants of the ones that we knew.
Speaker 1: Great point. Great point. By the way, there is a
Speaker 1: Wolverine variant montage that I absolutely loved. Obviously, we talked
Speaker 1: about Cavil, but we also get different Wolverines from the comics,
Speaker 1: Like we have the crucified Wolverine, we have not about him,
Speaker 1: we have the giant back Alley Wolverine. And I had
Speaker 1: to explain to Dana my life and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: comics got real fucking weird for a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like an eighties there were synthpop playing.
Speaker 2: I didn't know who that variant was. The one that
Speaker 2: was probably the most satisfying for fans was the Wolverine
Speaker 2: in the brown and yellow suit fighting Hulk. Yes, that
Speaker 2: was right, and Ruffalo's Hulk. Also, by the way, we
Speaker 2: get the comic accurate short Wolverine, which was very, very
Speaker 2: funny because the way I was shoot it in the
Speaker 2: first few seconds, you don't think he's.
Speaker 1: Because I thought that might have been Radcliffe at first.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And then we also get the Patch Wolverine,
Speaker 2: which everyone seemingly loves from the comics. I don't really
Speaker 2: know anything about him. Also we get the character of
Speaker 2: nice Pool, who pops up a couple times in here,
Speaker 2: which is Ryan Reynolds playing him as Ryan Ryan Reynolds,
Speaker 2: non burned Ryan Reynolds with long hair and the Canadian accent.
Speaker 2: I thought he was a really fun addition to the
Speaker 2: movie too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also with this Wolverine, he has taken and he
Speaker 1: is the worst of all the Wolverines, and I didn't
Speaker 1: think he was that much different than the rest of
Speaker 1: the Wolverines. He had the backstory of he was responsible
Speaker 1: for his X Men being killed because he tried to
Speaker 1: distance himself from them. He had a drinking issue he
Speaker 1: got back to the house. He hid this part from
Speaker 1: X twenty three. But he also after his X Men
Speaker 1: got killed, he went on a giant murder spree where
Speaker 1: he didn't just kill the bad guys, he killed a
Speaker 1: ton of people.
Speaker 2: I think what you're really overlooking is the fact that
Speaker 2: this Wolverine didn't have anything to go back to or
Speaker 2: anything to redeem himself with in his world, whereas other
Speaker 2: Wolverines might go through similar emotional lows but always have
Speaker 2: something or some means to redeem themselves, and this Wolverine
Speaker 2: didn't have that.
Speaker 1: He had alcohol.
Speaker 2: In the beginning of the third act, the big fight
Speaker 2: scene in front of Giant Man, which was also great,
Speaker 2: a nice Paul Rudd joke we got in there. We
Speaker 2: get all of Nova's slaves cronies, and I know there's
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of fun cameos in there. Some
Speaker 2: we already got a lot from trailers and breakdowns there.
Speaker 2: Juggernaut was pretty notable. They used Juggernaut's helmet there. Then
Speaker 2: we jumped to Earth ten thousand and five, whatever the
Speaker 2: fuck it's called, and we get the fight scene between
Speaker 2: Deadpool Logan and the one hundred Deadpools and presumably I
Speaker 2: think she was credited Blake Lively. Yeah, voices, Lady Deadpool.
Speaker 2: I'm guaranteeing a couple of those voices had to have
Speaker 2: been notable, but I didn't catch them in the credit.
Speaker 1: One of them is Matthew McConaughey. Matthew mc Conaughey was
Speaker 1: Cowboy Cowboy one.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's that's fun as well. The baby
Speaker 2: infant Deadpool was pretty fun. And I also really liked
Speaker 2: that all Deadpools have a Peter and they celebrate Peter,
Speaker 2: which is the way that all these Deadpools stop fighting
Speaker 2: our hero.
Speaker 1: Which is a bit of like, you know, how are
Speaker 1: we gonna get out of this situation this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, but it works for Deadpool movie. You know,
Speaker 2: it doesn't work for movies.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work for other ones, but it does work
Speaker 1: for this. Some notable characters or actors that were not
Speaker 1: seen here is either of the Professor X's, either of
Speaker 1: the Magneto's, and then Brolin as Cable. I'm actually surprised
Speaker 1: that they didn't have Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm
Speaker 1: as well. And then you have two Johnny Storms also,
Speaker 1: two actors that are in the MCU.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would have actually been pretty funny been
Speaker 2: on the Brolin Cable thing. They could have done a
Speaker 2: Chris Evans thing there where they could have made a
Speaker 2: reference to Sam played two characters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then so Magneto is reference and that's actually
Speaker 1: one of the funnier pieces of dialogue in the movie too,
Speaker 1: where's Magneto? We need Magneto And they're like, oh, he's dead, Well,
Speaker 1: where's his helmet? It was destroyed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cassandra Nova killed him and then melted his helmet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was pretty funny. Cyclops was mentioned several times.
Speaker 1: Logan gave a couple stories with you know Scott, Oh,
Speaker 1: Scott always wanted me to wear this costume. I did
Speaker 1: like that story. He always wanted me to costume. I
Speaker 1: thought it was stupid, And since they're all gone now
Speaker 1: I wear it everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought the two best scenes are the two
Speaker 2: best monologues that I was pointing out obviously, when he
Speaker 2: tells a bit of his backstory before you learn the
Speaker 2: whole thing to Dead Pull in the Odyssey, right before
Speaker 2: they fight. It's like two minutes of a huge jackman
Speaker 2: toward to force. And then the scene down outside the
Speaker 2: lair with him and Daphne Keene was fucking great. She
Speaker 2: does a good job, he does an amazing job. And
Speaker 2: I felt like those two scenes really like tied the
Speaker 2: movie together, made it just kicked it up enough for
Speaker 2: me to like go from borderlining liking it to loving
Speaker 2: it because it just needed that emotional grav tos.
Speaker 1: And like I said, felt like dat did help me.
Speaker 1: That did help me with that. Logan with that Wolverine
Speaker 1: totally agreed. It just wasn't maybe as far as you went.
Speaker 1: And then also, what was the other thing. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say something, you ruined it? Oh when he popped
Speaker 1: the mask on?
Speaker 2: Oh right, God?
Speaker 1: Yeah, god, because I forgot about the mask at that
Speaker 1: part of the movie. And then he's like, wait one
Speaker 1: second and he flipped the hood over.
Speaker 2: You're like a man, amass so good. So they fight
Speaker 2: all that dead all those deadpools while he's wearing the mask,
Speaker 2: and that was really cool and very very satisfying to see.
Speaker 2: Because of all the versions of Logan and Wolverine we've
Speaker 2: seen in the past, he has never donned a mask,
Speaker 2: not once. So five Yeah, finally we get that for
Speaker 2: a scene. And it was great, great way they did
Speaker 2: it to just pulling it out from the back. It
Speaker 2: was fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: I also can't talk enough about just how much I
Speaker 1: love how everything was done in the daylight and you
Speaker 1: could see everything that was happening. You could see all
Speaker 1: the blood splattering, because in every single one of these fights,
Speaker 1: all of these heroes have sharp swords, guns, claws, and
Speaker 1: they were just limb chopping.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And a very important thing actually to note as
Speaker 2: well is Deadpool now has Adamantium, Hannahs, and that seems
Speaker 2: like it's gonna be a pretty big plot point in
Speaker 2: the next MCO movie we see is a battle over
Speaker 2: Adamantium from TM.
Speaker 1: Is that the first time that they've said adam antium
Speaker 1: in Yes, So there's our there's our X men.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, There we go, Max.
Speaker 1: We do a little timelining here, No, I don't think
Speaker 1: we need to. Well, I do want to talk about Okay, well,
Speaker 1: let's skip over some crap there, but.
Speaker 2: You could, you could jump around.
Speaker 1: I do like how the movie starts up with him
Speaker 1: digging up Logan's body and then using his Adamantium spine
Speaker 1: to kill TVA members two in syncs Bye bye bye.
Speaker 2: Yeah we U. One of the things we said, and
Speaker 2: one of the things most people were going into this
Speaker 2: movie with, was like, please don't mess with the legacy
Speaker 2: from Logan, and they jump immediately into it and I
Speaker 2: was like, ah, but the minute he starts beating the
Speaker 2: shit out of people with the Adamantium skeleton. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh okay, And.
Speaker 1: Then also so I thought the scene was going on
Speaker 1: too long, but then it went on so long that
Speaker 1: it came back around to being funny again.
Speaker 2: Yea. Also skill was not different than the prior ones.
Speaker 1: Such a cool image too, and I'm hoping that they
Speaker 1: make something with this, some kind of a probably not
Speaker 1: a pop but like like a figure of Deadpool with
Speaker 1: the claws on his hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, great, great mind. I don't know what.
Speaker 1: That he stabbed himself.
Speaker 2: I don't know how he got into pop, but it
Speaker 2: was still a cool scene.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed them in the void. They were able to
Speaker 1: get to know each other. We got several great fight
Speaker 1: scenes in the void. Uh in the van and then
Speaker 1: also out in the desert, you're the twentieth century Fox logo.
Speaker 1: And they got was a Honda Odyssey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Honda Odyssey was nice. Pools car with the the
Speaker 2: Coexists sign. Actually, go another note about Paradox here too, yes,
Speaker 2: like there's no like what's Paradox's end game? Also, like
Speaker 2: why does he want to prune these worlds so quickly
Speaker 2: even though they're gonna die anyways? What's the fucking point there?
Speaker 2: Did he never really explained.
Speaker 1: I think he said something about wanting to like be
Speaker 1: in charge of like his version of the TVA I guess.
Speaker 2: But again, that doesn't jive with the end of Loki
Speaker 2: season two. It just doesn't really work for me.
Speaker 1: Piro, how about him? He's got gross teeth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's I also love when.
Speaker 1: He walked in to talk to Cassandra and she goes,
Speaker 1: not everyone gets to talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because, uh, I think Wolverine said that maybe right.
Speaker 1: I think at one point, no, I think she said
Speaker 1: he shuts.
Speaker 2: Him down, and I think he might have said that.
Speaker 2: But either way, you thought you were gonna get the
Speaker 2: shitty villain montage and then he just shut him up
Speaker 2: right away. That was great.
Speaker 1: Also, I wouldn't mind if they found a way to
Speaker 1: bring back not this Cassandra Nova. She gets obliterated and spaghettied,
Speaker 1: but she's a pretty cool character and I wouldn't mind
Speaker 1: her with a Charles or with a Magneto where she's
Speaker 1: a little more lenient on like what she'll do. Also,
Speaker 1: I did like the Wolverine speech of she said, oh,
Speaker 1: Charles must have loved you, and he goes, no, Charles
Speaker 1: loved everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there was a good another good fucking Jackman
Speaker 2: scene there where Wade wants to kill her. He's like no,
Speaker 2: and that's ultimately why she helps them with the Paradox
Speaker 2: double cross. The way that X twenty three against Juggernaut's
Speaker 2: helmet was fucking awesome. Yeah, she just slices him off
Speaker 2: at the ankles, grabs the helmet like that was fucking great,
Speaker 2: and that just goes We didn't even spend much time
Speaker 2: on the kills and the gore. There's so much of
Speaker 2: it in this movie. It's like hard to point to
Speaker 2: one or two things. It's in almost every scene. Like
Speaker 2: the fight scene between Deadpool and Wolverine in The Odyssey
Speaker 2: was fucking incredible.
Speaker 1: And then the the that's where he lost his sleeves too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the shot of Deadpool all tied up
Speaker 2: in the seatbelt was great. And then you see the
Speaker 2: Electra boots, like really good introduction of those Void characters.
Speaker 2: They just did. They did a really good job kind
Speaker 2: of flowing from one thing to another.
Speaker 1: Also, and I know that we already talked about Wesley
Speaker 1: Snipes in this movie, but seeing Blade fight as Zazel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fucking great.
Speaker 1: Seeing the Blade fight the Devil and they kept that
Speaker 1: same like uh, like the propeller like three sided throwing
Speaker 1: thing to it, like it. I there's such great fan
Speaker 1: service in this movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually was a little disappointed we didn't get
Speaker 2: bigger swords with Blade. He kind of used that smaller
Speaker 2: thing for most of the fight scene. I would have
Speaker 2: liked to have seen that and like a Blade Deadpool
Speaker 2: team up. It was just inherently really cool.
Speaker 1: Dear God. Coming out of the movie, I was like,
Speaker 1: has a movie? How do I feel about this movie?
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, there is so much fun in
Speaker 1: this Yeah. There is just so many laughs, so much
Speaker 1: great actions, so much violence, so much every reference it's
Speaker 1: made for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And they also like at the end when they are,
Speaker 2: you know, trying to break the time ripper, that was
Speaker 2: a good scene, good back and forth between Logan and
Speaker 2: Wade about who's gonna be the hero Wade Tricksum. Also
Speaker 2: we get the be fifteen cameo, by the way, with
Speaker 2: the TVA stuff, there was that a good little called
Speaker 2: back to the Avengers where Wade, Swarmer and Logan are
Speaker 2: eating schwarma at the end. There. It's just it was
Speaker 2: just they hit on so many good notes, and again
Speaker 2: you and I didn't care for most of the villain
Speaker 2: motivations or the story on the in between, but the
Speaker 2: shit that we got to see on screen was so
Speaker 2: good that we also we basically get to overlook that.
Speaker 1: What I appreciated too, because for a second I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: is this how X twenty three is gonna go out?
Speaker 1: She's gonna die in the void. But they pulled her
Speaker 1: out at the end and had her in that final
Speaker 1: scene and that made me happy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which means she survived Eliath, but maybe the other
Speaker 2: ones didn't. I don't know. Yeah, I didn't question that
Speaker 2: too much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, which means that she is now like maybe
Speaker 1: not in this world, but she could be pulled into
Speaker 1: whatever Avengers stuff happens.
Speaker 2: Yes, some young Avengers thing or something like that.
Speaker 1: In Logan, I know that she spoke Spanish, Yeah, mostly
Speaker 1: in this she speaks very good English.
Speaker 2: Clean English. And so I wonder what the what what
Speaker 2: time it is in the MCU right now, maybe twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six or something like that, and.
Speaker 1: Logan is new that's has dusk.
Speaker 2: Well, Logan's also set in the future, so it.
Speaker 1: Was set in twenty thirty I believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's interesting, and she also like, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a good point about that. Yeah, yeah, all.
Speaker 1: Right, I guess let's talk about the future.
Speaker 2: Let's get into.
Speaker 1: Maxa and Maxa could be anything. It could be a boat.
Speaker 1: And one of the it seems like every reviewer that
Speaker 1: likes this movie, one of the tags that keeps on
Speaker 1: being used over and over again is that this is
Speaker 1: a shot in the arm or it's going to reinvigorate
Speaker 1: the MCU. Where do you fall on that.
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to agree with that statement because
Speaker 2: this was almost adjacent to the MC.
Speaker 1: And it's also so much different than all the other movies.
Speaker 1: And it's also I'm sorry to step on you here,
Speaker 1: but this has like really bothered me after seeing the movie,
Speaker 1: is that this is a rated R super rated R
Speaker 1: movie that they're not gonna continue to do. So it's
Speaker 1: not like they can take this business model and roll
Speaker 1: with it. Also, you can only do movies like this
Speaker 1: every so often, and I feel like they're kind of
Speaker 1: running out of these legacy characters that they can just
Speaker 1: pull back and do this with.
Speaker 2: All of that is true, but there is something to
Speaker 2: be said about how successful this movie is seemingly going
Speaker 2: to be and that maybe giving them a little more
Speaker 2: leeway to do more of this type of stuff in
Speaker 2: the universe. But again, it's hard to say that it
Speaker 2: reinvigorates the MCU because there's a chance we see none
Speaker 2: of these characters going Yeah, I hope that's not the case.
Speaker 2: I hope we get at least X twenty three, maybe
Speaker 2: Jackman again, maybe maybe Reynolds again. But it is encouraging
Speaker 2: to see that they could still deliver pretty much the
Speaker 2: highest level even when and things have been kind of
Speaker 2: going south. I think for them, for someone to say
Speaker 2: that they've reinvigorated the MCU, I think Brave New World
Speaker 2: needs to hit because that's really gonna be like The Jumping.
Speaker 1: A movie that's more in the style of what they've
Speaker 1: been doing in but in that also current timeline, but
Speaker 1: also finding a new style within it, not just being
Speaker 1: a copycat of what they've done in the past.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is encouraging, and it's a good point
Speaker 2: you made. For for this movie, most of the set
Speaker 2: pieces and action took place in very bright, vivacious areas,
Speaker 2: and it seems like Brave New World's going to do
Speaker 2: a lot of that as well. So we'll see how
Speaker 2: that goes.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, if you've made it to this point in
Speaker 1: the podcast, I slute you cap.
Speaker 2: Is that February for Brave New World? Yes?
Speaker 1: Also in this movie, by the way, when that was
Speaker 1: Thor holding Deadpool, which is a really funny callback, every
Speaker 1: time that he said it, that was Hemsworth's brother, right,
Speaker 1: like that was the actor Thor.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't. I didn't, you know what, I didn't notice.
Speaker 1: It looked like from Ragnarok when it was Hamsworth's brother
Speaker 1: holding Matt Damon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was Chris Hamsworth, but it could
Speaker 2: have been Luke. Definitely could have been Luke.
Speaker 1: Because I think that's what made me laugh about it.
Speaker 1: And then every time was like why istore holding me?
Speaker 2: That also seems like that was an easter egg too, right,
Speaker 2: like that might be something that happens in the in
Speaker 2: a future movie.
Speaker 1: But I'm also curious, like what other characters you could
Speaker 1: possibly have like this comedic styling with right and you?
Speaker 1: Besides maybe Spider Man, you can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's not, there's not many, for sure. There's it'd
Speaker 2: have to be a real spastic Sara like maybe Moonnight
Speaker 2: they could bring out to this level. I just don't
Speaker 2: know anything about Moon Night. It just seems like he
Speaker 2: could maybe operate in this type of type of atmosphere.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna wrap up this episode.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go and think for a bit, and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna go and record our next episode that's gonna
Speaker 1: come out on Monday. What is the topic of our
Speaker 1: next episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be talking twisters. Hell yeah, there's the movie
Speaker 2: that has dominated the box office the last year.
Speaker 1: You feel it? I think that's the saying.
Speaker 2: Uh, little peek behind the curtain here. You liked that
Speaker 2: movie more than I did.
Speaker 1: I love dumb fun.
Speaker 2: I argue about how fun that movie really was.
Speaker 1: I'm doing the Tornado Wrangler thing right now.
Speaker 2: I also, by the way, you have to go back
Speaker 2: and collect your thoughts. I have more notes on that
Speaker 2: than you do.
Speaker 1: I don't need notes.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you feel it, ride it, and I have
Speaker 1: the Tornado Wrangler. Those are my only thoughts on the movie,
Speaker 1: and that's really all I needed. Also, it's gonna suck
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Speaker 2: Please flip the cassette over to side B to continue
Speaker 2: the adventure.
Speaker 1: Now, it's not for girls jumping on trampolines.