Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host Deb
Speaker 1: Bowen and I'm Samantha Fay, and we're so excited that
Speaker 1: you are with us as we talk more about spooky stuff.
Speaker 1: And I can actually talk about this one fairly, Okay, Samantha.
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 1: So one of the things that we realized that we'd
Speaker 1: never actually done was give you a list of haunted hotels.
Speaker 1: We've done some episodes on specific places, but we realized
Speaker 1: that it would be nice if you kind of had
Speaker 1: this master list of some of the most haunted hotels
Speaker 1: in the country.
Speaker 2: So kind of like remember that show we did, Paranormal
Speaker 2: Road Trip. Yeah, it was so fun about just some
Speaker 2: fun places you can visit along America. But this one
Speaker 2: is just some hotels you can put on your radar
Speaker 2: as you're traveling on the Paranormal road Trip.
Speaker 1: Well you can, and I'm kind of all over the country.
Speaker 1: I tried to get various areas in the country, and
Speaker 1: of course some places that are particularly near and dear
Speaker 1: to our hearts as well. So come with us here
Speaker 1: as we go on a road trip to some of
Speaker 1: the most elegant places and some of the most haunted
Speaker 1: places in the country, and I want to start at
Speaker 1: the Grove Park Inn in Actuville, North Carolina, for a
Speaker 1: couple of reasons. One, as you all surely know from
Speaker 1: listening to any news, you know how devastated the western
Speaker 1: part of North Carolina was my Hurricane Helene. And I
Speaker 1: have not heard any bad things about the Grove Park
Speaker 1: in I do know that they're planning to reopen the
Speaker 1: Biltmore House before Christmas. So, and I've spent some time
Speaker 1: at the Grove Park and I know you have too,
Speaker 1: Samantha's that not.
Speaker 2: I've been there several times. It's my favorite hotel. You
Speaker 2: can have dinner overlooking the mountains. They have a underground spat.
Speaker 2: They have these little like walking trails, and if you
Speaker 2: go on one of the walking trails, they have these
Speaker 2: hidden gems like they're like the last time I was there,
Speaker 2: there was a little bar, just a stone cottage. They
Speaker 2: turned into a little bar on this walking trail. It's like,
Speaker 2: how lovely, let's go for a hike and have some wine.
Speaker 1: I think that's a great plan. I I love the lobby.
Speaker 1: You could stand inside the fireplace in the lobby. I
Speaker 1: had drinks and or derbs in the lobby, and the
Speaker 1: year that my Grief book came out, a friend of
Speaker 1: mine was the head waiter in the fanciest of the
Speaker 1: restaurants there, and he bought the wine for my party
Speaker 1: of folks that were there for dinner that night. It
Speaker 1: was one of the most elegant meals I've ever had.
Speaker 1: It was absolutely a lovely, lovely experience to eat in
Speaker 1: that restaurant as well. And in the fall, right before Christmas,
Speaker 1: they do a ginger red house exhibit. It is just breathtaking,
Speaker 1: it really is.
Speaker 2: You can always see the Grove Park Gingerbread House. They
Speaker 2: keep that on exhibit. And if you stay in the hotel,
Speaker 2: you go into the elevator, which is literally built into
Speaker 2: the stone hearth of the fireplace that Dev's talking about.
Speaker 2: It's like behind there, and there's an elevator operator. So
Speaker 2: you go in there and there's this lovely man and
Speaker 2: he says what floor, and he winds the door closed
Speaker 2: and you go up. So it really is like stepping
Speaker 2: back in time.
Speaker 1: It really is. But we digress. This is not what
Speaker 1: we came to talk about. Here's what we came to
Speaker 1: talk about. This inn opened in nineteen thirteen. It was
Speaker 1: built by a man whose name is was Edwin Wiley
Speaker 1: Grove who made his fortune selling Groves Faceless Chill tonic,
Speaker 1: which was a tonic for malaria, and it sold really
Speaker 1: well in the same because it contained quinine, which is
Speaker 1: one of the things that helps with malaria, and certainly
Speaker 1: malaria was rampant in the South at this time. This
Speaker 1: nineteen thirteen era was what was known as the age
Speaker 1: of the robber Barons. These were extraordinarily wealthy people who
Speaker 1: spent lavish and huge sums of money building amazing structures
Speaker 1: and edifices, one of which was the Grove Park in
Speaker 1: Grove came to Ashville on his doctor's advice. He was
Speaker 1: told that being in Ashvill and in the mountain air
Speaker 1: would be really good for his health, and of course
Speaker 1: he began to see that there was a big tourist
Speaker 1: business in the area. So he and his friend and
Speaker 1: son in law, whose name was Thomas Seeley, soon began
Speaker 1: construction on the Grove Park Inn. It has remained in
Speaker 1: continuous operations since then and many famous people, including Samantha Fay,
Speaker 1: have stayed there. But in addition to that, George Grit,
Speaker 1: Harry Houdini, Fitzgerald and President Obama to name a few,
Speaker 1: and because of the era in which this inn was built,
Speaker 1: folks didn't just come and stay overnight back in those days.
Speaker 1: They came for extended stays like the summer, and according
Speaker 1: to legend, one of those guests from a long time
Speaker 1: ago still walks the halls for one hundred years. Many
Speaker 1: guests say that they have seen the Pink Lady of
Speaker 1: Grove Park Inn. Some believe her to be the ghost
Speaker 1: of a young woman who fell for her death from
Speaker 1: a balcony on the fifth floor in the nineteen twenties.
Speaker 1: She's usually seen in the form of kind of a
Speaker 1: pink mist or sometimes as a full fledged apparition wearing
Speaker 1: a pink ball gown. No one seems to know who
Speaker 1: she is or her name. No one is sure why
Speaker 1: she was at the inn in the first place. One
Speaker 1: legend says that she was there for a clandestine rendezvous
Speaker 1: with her married lover, and that she leapt from the
Speaker 1: balcony when he told her the affair was over. Another
Speaker 1: legend says that she was a debutante and fell accidentally.
Speaker 1: It's said that she really enjoys the company of children
Speaker 1: over that of adults, and children often report seeing her.
Speaker 1: If they're taken ill, she comes and comforts them or
Speaker 1: place with them in the hallway. Folks who work at
Speaker 1: the end say she is responsible for electrical devices such
Speaker 1: as lights and air conditioning turning off and on by itself.
Speaker 1: She arranges objects differently in rooms and is said to
Speaker 1: tickle the feet of sleeping guests at really a little disconcerting.
Speaker 1: She haunts the halls and rooms of the entire hotel,
Speaker 1: but her favorite room is five point forty five. Legend
Speaker 1: says it was from this room's balcony that she met
Speaker 1: her demise. Now, Samantha, would you like to go back
Speaker 1: to the Growth Park Inn and stay in room four forty.
Speaker 2: Well, I stayed in the room right across from five
Speaker 2: forty five, and there's a little plaque that says, you know,
Speaker 2: this is the Pink Lady's room, right And I walked
Speaker 2: past that room every day, like on my way to
Speaker 2: the elevator, and I did not feel her. But I
Speaker 2: was sitting in you know that outdoor terrace where you
Speaker 2: can sit and look up at the hotel.
Speaker 1: It's gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was having dinner there one night and I
Speaker 2: just looked up at that fifth floor and I took
Speaker 2: a photo and I do have an orb. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have to find that photo and post it on Facebook.
Speaker 2: Ooh doo ooh, it's right over that window. But I'll
Speaker 2: tell you I never felt it does feel haunted in there,
Speaker 2: but I never felt anything negative.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think anybody's ever reported anything negative. Just
Speaker 1: that she's there, what she's doing, Tick on your feet.
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful place to haunt.
Speaker 1: It sure is. It's lovely. Let's go to Arkansas. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the eighteen eighty six Crescent Hotel and Spa
Speaker 1: in Eureka Springs, Arkansas. Now, I went and did a
Speaker 1: lot of research on photographs and so forth of this hotel,
Speaker 1: and it too is lovely. It has been a lot
Speaker 1: of different things over the years. It's been a women's college,
Speaker 1: and at some point it was an experimental hospital run
Speaker 1: by a Charlatan named Norman Baker who claimed to have
Speaker 1: a cure for cancer. Many who have experienced ghosts here
Speaker 1: believe that those ghosts are spirits of people who died
Speaker 1: in his care. Ghost tours are available for the brave
Speaker 1: of hearts. You can visit the Hotel Morgue, where people
Speaker 1: have reported being poked by unseen hands, feeling cold spots,
Speaker 1: and seeing dark figures. On the fourth floor, you can
Speaker 1: visit the hotel's archives and if you're brave enough, request
Speaker 1: room two eighteen, known as Michael's Room, which is reportedly
Speaker 1: the most haunted room in the hotel.
Speaker 2: I read that he's a stonemason who oh All to
Speaker 2: his death during the construction, and so people have reported
Speaker 2: like a cold breeze, or hearing footsteps, or seeing a
Speaker 2: see through ghostly figure of a man in work clothes.
Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting? I know you can go in January
Speaker 1: when the hotel hosts the Eureka Springs Paranormal Weekend, which
Speaker 1: features over night ghost hunts, seminars, and access to most
Speaker 1: of the properties haunted spaces. Apparently many places on this
Speaker 1: ground are haunted, probably as a result of that Charlottan
Speaker 1: hospital that was there.
Speaker 2: Could it also be because Arkansas is so famous for
Speaker 2: its courts. I wonder if that amplifies paranormal things, you know,
Speaker 2: were I would think Limestone doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think it would. And of course it'snatural springs.
Speaker 1: There many of natural springs all over Arkansas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we're going to go to New Mexico.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. So let's head from Arkansas over to Lafonda
Speaker 2: on the Plaza in Santa Fe, New Mexico. This stunning
Speaker 2: hotel is the height of Southwest US luxury. Deb and
Speaker 2: Joel went there, but you guys didn't stay there.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm going to talk about where we did
Speaker 1: stay instead in a minute.
Speaker 2: Okay, many buildings are there including a courthouse and other
Speaker 2: inns that have been on the property since the sixteen hundreds.
Speaker 2: The present inn was built in nineteen twenty two. John P. Slough,
Speaker 2: a former New Mexico Chief Justice, was shot and killed
Speaker 2: in the lobby in eighteen sixty seven and is said
Speaker 2: to walk the halls at night. Guests report hearing his footsteps.
Speaker 2: Another ghost is a bride who was murdered on her
Speaker 2: wedding night in the bridal suite. Then, of course there's
Speaker 2: the businessman who jumped into the hotel well after gambling
Speaker 2: a way all his money. That's a lot of tragedy
Speaker 2: in one hotel.
Speaker 1: Well, it really is, and it's absolutely beautiful. The grounds
Speaker 1: are just lovely and there are lots of different buildings
Speaker 1: as you mentioned on the grounds, but yeah, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that happened there. But down the road,
Speaker 1: not very far from Lafonda is Lapasada, and Joel and
Speaker 1: I did stay there while we were in Santa Fe
Speaker 1: for a few days a few years ago, and it
Speaker 1: is just absolutely breathtaking. It too, is absolutely lovely in
Speaker 1: that Adobe architecture that is just so prevalent there in
Speaker 1: that beautiful stone is just gorgeous. But one aspect of
Speaker 1: this story about Lapasada is that it's a fairly news story.
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy nine, a janitor reported seeing a woman
Speaker 1: walking the halls dressed in a black Victorian, her hair
Speaker 1: pulled back tightly in a bond, and soon after he
Speaker 1: saw her, other staff members started to see her. It
Speaker 1: is believed that she is Julia Stobb, wife of Abraham Stobb,
Speaker 1: who built the original three story mansion that still sits
Speaker 1: on the property. Julia died in eighteen ninety six at
Speaker 1: the age of fifty two. It is said that she
Speaker 1: loved gardening, and that the fragrance of roses sometimes accompanies
Speaker 1: her appearance. Others report swaying chandeliers and moving items in
Speaker 1: the hotel. A bartender claims that all the glasses on
Speaker 1: a particular shelf flew off and crashed to the floor.
Speaker 1: She might have been one of those folks who didn't
Speaker 1: think alcohol was a good idea. The most haunted room
Speaker 1: is room two fifty six. Also, and I don't know why,
Speaker 1: this is called Sweet one hundred, which is where Julia
Speaker 1: spent most of her time when she was alive.
Speaker 2: They did a whole special on this on Unsolved mysteries,
Speaker 2: the older ones with Robert Stock Oh okay, I remember correctly.
Speaker 2: She had lost at least two children, oh dear, and
Speaker 2: I think when the second one transitioned, she never left
Speaker 2: that room again. She kind of just, you know, lost
Speaker 2: her mind and broke her heart and she was kind
Speaker 2: of stuck like a ghost for the last several years
Speaker 2: of her life. It makes you wonder if someone's mindset
Speaker 2: at the time of their death can really affect if
Speaker 2: they become a ghost or not.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably true. Now I have to tell you,
Speaker 1: like I said, it was absolutely beautiful, and Joel and
Speaker 1: I were housed in a much more modern section of
Speaker 1: the hotel and never actually saw this original house, or
Speaker 1: if we did, we didn't pay a lot of attention
Speaker 1: because when we were there, it was in June, and
Speaker 1: it was during Joel's midlife crisis period time in that
Speaker 1: hot transam car and it was blazing my research.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, hold on, Jewel had a transam.
Speaker 1: You don't know that story.
Speaker 2: I do not know that story.
Speaker 1: I can't wake sure that it was. He didn't have
Speaker 1: it very long, but he did have a trans aam
Speaker 1: and we drove from Denver to Santa Fe in that
Speaker 1: trans am.
Speaker 2: Actually color was it? Please tell me it wasn't red?
Speaker 1: Oh no, it was black. Okay, it was black. A
Speaker 1: whole other story, whole other story. But my research about
Speaker 1: Lapisada indicated that only this old building, not the modern buildings,
Speaker 1: are haunted there. I have to come back to the
Speaker 1: story about the well, because there is the Red Lion
Speaker 1: in in Apesbury is a lovely place, really good food.
Speaker 1: I had lunch in the restaurant there, and while I
Speaker 1: was sitting in the restaurant, I noticed that in the
Speaker 1: middle of the floor in the restaurant was a well,
Speaker 1: and it was covered over with a piece of glass
Speaker 1: or plexiglass. And it was such a beautiful building. The
Speaker 1: restaurant was old, dark wood and very quaint, and the
Speaker 1: building itself was that whitewashed stone, and the thatched roof
Speaker 1: held down with the ropes and the stones. You know.
Speaker 1: But the restaurant is famous on this property for the
Speaker 1: ghost of a woman who was murdered by her jealous
Speaker 1: husband and he threw her down the well. The well
Speaker 1: is still there, The woman's body is still in the
Speaker 1: well down there. I'm sure by now it's not any right,
Speaker 1: and it is covered by glass, and it's right there,
Speaker 1: just in the middle of the main dining room, and
Speaker 1: they built the restaurant around it.
Speaker 2: I wonder why they never pulled her up and gave
Speaker 2: her a proper burial.
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to any of that.
Speaker 2: Did you feel anything?
Speaker 1: Only creepy? It was creepy. The food was good, but
Speaker 1: it was creepy.
Speaker 2: That would be so weird to be like eating a burger,
Speaker 2: know that there's a murdered woman's body down on the
Speaker 2: well in the center of the restaurant.
Speaker 1: It was pretty creepy. But there we were creepy. O.
Speaker 1: They just bomed with things, you know. But take us
Speaker 1: to the Red Lion and in Stockbridge, Massachusetts, which is different.
Speaker 2: Stockbridge, Massachusetts is the place I absolutely love. Norman Walkwell
Speaker 2: lived there. It's just a beautiful, beautiful town to tour.
Speaker 2: The Red Lion in in this beautiful historic town traces
Speaker 2: its history back to the seventeen hundreds, where it was
Speaker 2: a gathering place for revolution is protesting the colony's treatment
Speaker 2: by the British Parliament and planning boycotts of British goods.
Speaker 2: Five US presidents have been guessed here, along with many
Speaker 2: unknown travelers. A young girl is said to wander at
Speaker 2: the fourth floor carrying flowers. A man in a top
Speaker 2: hat walks those same walls. Room three oh one is
Speaker 2: famously haunted. Guests have reported their bedsheets were tugged and
Speaker 2: their toes pulled during the night. What is with the
Speaker 2: feet fetish coast?
Speaker 1: I don't know that they're everywhere.
Speaker 2: They're everywhere. Others say they have heard voices and feel
Speaker 2: cold spots. I think Stockbridge should be on everyone's list.
Speaker 2: It's got one of the best reenactment of colonial villages nearby.
Speaker 2: It's there's beautiful hiking trails and if you can stop
Speaker 2: in at a haunted inn. In addition, why not just
Speaker 2: keep your feet covered under the sheets.
Speaker 1: And remember that this is also the home of the
Speaker 1: restaurant that was owned by Alice, who was a friend
Speaker 1: of Olive Guthrie's made famous in the song Alice's Restaurant.
Speaker 2: Oh cool?
Speaker 1: You mean you can't recite every single word of that storng?
Speaker 2: No, I cannot know.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll move on.
Speaker 2: I'm not the music historian like you are.
Speaker 1: Tell us about the Jackal Island Club.
Speaker 2: Okay, So if you go over to Georgia, you can
Speaker 2: visit the Jeckal Island Club Resort and Juckal Island. What
Speaker 2: is it about these Gilded age robber baron Erra hotels?
Speaker 2: They are everywhere. This luxury hotel sits on its own
Speaker 2: private island and caters even now to the very rich.
Speaker 2: Much perormal activity has been reported over the years.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 2: Visitors sometimes see a bell hop on the second floor
Speaker 2: that isn't there, or you might see cigar smoke wafting
Speaker 2: through the hallways early in the morning. It's rumored that
Speaker 2: this smoke comes from JP Morgan, who was a member
Speaker 2: of this club. Unseen people sip coffee from guest cups
Speaker 2: and read their newspapers when they leave their rooms. But
Speaker 2: that's where I think we should draw the line, because
Speaker 2: I know you, for Shore dev You're not going to
Speaker 2: share your coffee with anyone. Not happening, not even if
Speaker 2: it is JP Morgan.
Speaker 1: JP Morgan buy his own cup of coffee.
Speaker 2: That's right here or in the afterlife exactly.
Speaker 1: So let's go from Georgia to Boston. Oh and I
Speaker 1: loved this. This was fun. I did not know anything
Speaker 1: about all of this. The oldest can tenuously operating hotel
Speaker 1: in the US since eighteen fifty five is the what
Speaker 1: is now called the Omni Parker House was just the
Speaker 1: Parker House when it opened. It's close to Boston Commons.
Speaker 1: Its original owner, Harvey Parker, has been seen roaming the halls,
Speaker 1: and famous orbs float along the tenth floor hallway. Guest
Speaker 1: here whispers and see shadows. Notably, Charles Dickens resided in
Speaker 1: a third floor room for five months, and they say
Speaker 1: they often smell cigar smoke in this room. And I
Speaker 1: assume that it is from this hotel that we got
Speaker 1: the famous Parker House ropes.
Speaker 2: Now, I would say New Orleans has to be the
Speaker 2: most haunted city, but Boston has to be a close second.
Speaker 1: Oh you know it. Yeah, absolutely. Ooh. I can't talk
Speaker 1: about New Orleans, but we'll get there.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to Mount Washington. The Mount Washington
Speaker 2: Resort was built in nineteen o two by railroad tycoon
Speaker 2: Joseph Stickney. It's an elegant hotel in the White Mountains
Speaker 2: of New Hampshire. It's considered one of the most haunted
Speaker 2: hotels in all of New England. Called the Princess by
Speaker 2: hotel staff, Stickney's wife, Carolyn Foster, Stickney remarried a French
Speaker 2: royal after her husband died. Guests say they see her
Speaker 2: wandering the halls dressed in Victorian clothing. If you stay
Speaker 2: some night in what had been her third floor suite,
Speaker 2: you may see her at the end of your bed
Speaker 2: brushing her hair. Okay, that's fine. You can sit at
Speaker 2: the end of my bed and brush your hair. Just
Speaker 2: don't touch my.
Speaker 1: Feet exactly, you know. Hello, I mean I'm saying a
Speaker 1: ghost at the end of my bed is not a
Speaker 1: bad thing. I mean, I certainly saw my father there,
Speaker 1: but I don't want you touch in me. You knew,
Speaker 1: all right? Take us to New Orleans.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you go over to New Orleans, you'll see
Speaker 2: a lot of ghosts. Who knows how many haunted hotels
Speaker 2: there are New Orleans, But let's tell you about one
Speaker 2: of the most famous in the French quarter. Of course,
Speaker 2: in the late eighteen hundreds, a toddler named Maurice Bager
Speaker 2: died on the property of a high Fever and he
Speaker 2: is often seen today on the fourteenth floor, which really dead.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be the thirteenth floor. Don't all these hotels
Speaker 2: skip the thirteenth floor?
Speaker 1: Well? Who knows what they do. Let's tell everybody the
Speaker 1: name of the hotel is the Monte Leone. Am I
Speaker 1: saying it correctly?
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe so. Hotels Leone and New Orleans. People
Speaker 2: also say that the former employee, William red Wildemere, continues
Speaker 2: to hang around, arguing with the ghost of a chef
Speaker 2: and a server about whether or not to keep the
Speaker 2: hotel open. I'd like to witness that a couple of
Speaker 2: goo in an argument.
Speaker 1: It'd be interesting to listen to that conversation, wouldn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And back to Massachusetts and of course Salem. The Hawthorne
Speaker 1: Hotel is of course a haunted place, although those who
Speaker 1: study the history of the witch trials in this area
Speaker 1: know the real stories. Situated across from Salem Common, this
Speaker 1: hotel has its share of ghostly legends, furniture moves, unexplained noises,
Speaker 1: strange smells, apparitions, a baby cries on the third flour,
Speaker 1: and of course, the ghost of Bridget Bishop, the first
Speaker 1: woman executed in the trials, is said to wander the halls.
Speaker 1: Salem hosts thousands of visitors, particularly in October every year,
Speaker 1: and the hotel, of course, is named after literary Titan
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hawthorne.
Speaker 2: I have an unghostly story to share about him that
Speaker 2: our fellow writers will appreciate. He was married to the
Speaker 2: love of his life, and he was working and trying
Speaker 2: to write his books, you know, at night after work,
Speaker 2: and could not get up the confidence to do it,
Speaker 2: just didn't have time to keep writing. And he was
Speaker 2: just like, forget it. I'm just going to, you know,
Speaker 2: give up. So we would never have the House of
Speaker 2: Seven Gables if it weren't for his wife, who had
Speaker 2: quietly been saving the household money that he gave her
Speaker 2: each week. She would save a little penny here, a
Speaker 2: little penny there for a year or two, and ended
Speaker 2: up saving up enough money for him to quit his
Speaker 2: job for a whole year so he could just focus
Speaker 2: on finishing that book.
Speaker 1: Oh how lovely, What.
Speaker 2: A beautiful gift to give to your partner. And then,
Speaker 2: of course, you know, he went on to write all
Speaker 2: the literary classics we all had to read in high school. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: all right, let's travel over to New York City, but
Speaker 2: we're going to take our last break. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 2: Okay, dev do you want to tell us about the
Speaker 2: Hotel Chelsea?
Speaker 1: Oh? I woke up it was a Chelsea morning, says
Speaker 1: Joni Mitchell. The list of the rich, famous, eccentric, talented
Speaker 1: and artistic people who have been guessed at this hotel
Speaker 1: since it opened in eighteen eighty four is astounding. Here
Speaker 1: are a few folks who have stayed and probably continues
Speaker 1: to stay. Perhaps there Pattie Smith, Mark Twain, Andy Warhol,
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan, Madonna, Jimmy Hendrix, and of course Jannis Jopper.
Speaker 1: Considered one of the most haunted hotels in New York,
Speaker 1: it is home to many strange deaths, including several suicides
Speaker 1: and murders. The Hotel Chelsea is allegedly haunted by a
Speaker 1: woman named Mary, who survived the Titanic sinking but lost
Speaker 1: her husband and Larry, a ghost who tries to talk
Speaker 1: to anyone who will listen. I'd love to know if
Speaker 1: Janice and Jimmy walk the halls or sing in the lobby.
Speaker 1: I've never heard anybody say that, but boy, wouldn't that
Speaker 1: be fun.
Speaker 2: It is so interesting that so many of these robber
Speaker 2: barons built these beautiful, beautiful buildings that we still treasure today,
Speaker 2: and we don't see that anymore. We have robber barons today.
Speaker 1: We do, but they're not building elegant hotels.
Speaker 2: They're not building elegant hotels. You know what I was in.
Speaker 2: I had to go to New York City with Michael
Speaker 2: this summer for a work thing. So he was working
Speaker 2: one day and I just decided to stay in the
Speaker 2: New York City Public Library and do some work myself.
Speaker 2: And it's so beautiful in that rose room, and I
Speaker 2: was just looking around at the exquisiteness, and so I
Speaker 2: just started, you know, researching, like how long did it
Speaker 2: take to build this? So it turned out that the
Speaker 2: library was built by some of the robber barons. Andrew
Speaker 2: Carnegie gave five million dollars, and I was like, gosh,
Speaker 2: why don't they build stuff like this anymore? And you know,
Speaker 2: everyone was saying, well, it's cost too much money. Well,
Speaker 2: five point two million back then is one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty million today. And we know we spend more than
Speaker 2: that building I don't know target, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: why can't we build beautiful stuff anymore? I don't know,
Speaker 2: You're going to haunt these new buildings, deb I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna want. I don't want to haunt these newer hotels,
Speaker 2: know me.
Speaker 1: Either give me a choice and I would be at
Speaker 1: the Grove park in or the Stanley. Will talk about
Speaker 1: that soon. Let's instead go to the Mispa Hotel in
Speaker 1: Tanta Punk, Nevada. Opened in nineteen oh seven, the Mispa
Speaker 1: Hotel wants cater to wealth the investors during the silver
Speaker 1: mining boom. Of course, today, however, it is best known
Speaker 1: for its ghost, the most famous of whom is the
Speaker 1: Lady in Red. We go from a pink lady in
Speaker 1: Asheville to a Lady in Red in Nevada. She is
Speaker 1: said to have been horribly murdered by a jealous lover,
Speaker 1: and she leaves pearls beneath guest pillows and rearranges their belongings.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be wild to found a pearl under your
Speaker 1: pillow in that hotel?
Speaker 2: Yes? I'd like to see photos of this. I would too,
Speaker 2: I wonder if they're real pearls.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that's an interesting question.
Speaker 2: Now you can leave a pearl under my foot and
Speaker 2: I wouldn't complain.
Speaker 1: A Let's go to Nashville to Union stations, Nashville Yards. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a train station. This hotel is a prime ghost,
Speaker 1: funny location. The story of Abigail is quite famous. She
Speaker 1: lost her lover, her husband somebody in World War two
Speaker 1: and flung herself in front of a moving train at
Speaker 1: the same station where she bid him farewell as he
Speaker 1: went to war. In France. Guests describe seeing for walking
Speaker 1: the halls and haunting rooms. Seven eleven guests in that
Speaker 1: room say lights flicker and they have taken photos of
Speaker 1: apparitions that appear in mirrors. I will talk about that
Speaker 1: a minute. Temperatures plummet and strange noises come from the ceiling.
Speaker 2: No thank you, you know me either. Speaking of another note,
Speaker 2: how about staying at the historic Lizzie Borden House in
Speaker 2: Fall River, Massachusetts. This has been turned into an inn.
Speaker 2: You know the story and the rhyme. Lizzie Borden, although acquitted,
Speaker 2: is still believed by many to have hacked her parents,
Speaker 2: Abby and Andrew Borden to death with a hatchet. You
Speaker 2: can take a guided tour of the historic Lizzie Borden
Speaker 2: House's first floor in basement, or you can book an
Speaker 2: overnight stay in the John V. Moore Suite, where Abby's
Speaker 2: body was found. Rave souls who have stayed here say
Speaker 2: they see objects moving, hear footsteps and voices, smell strange odors,
Speaker 2: and see figures. Let's wrap up with the Stanley Hotel
Speaker 2: and Estes Park, Colorado. You want to tell us about.
Speaker 1: That, well, I want to, but I want you to
Speaker 1: tell us because you've been there more recently than I have.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I just came back from there. It was
Speaker 2: absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1: We know.
Speaker 2: The Stanley is famous from Stephen King's The Shining, which
Speaker 2: he wrote after spending considerable time writing The stand in
Speaker 2: Room two seventeen at the Stanley Hotel. You've probably seen
Speaker 2: the movie with Jack Nicholson and the words red Rum
Speaker 2: are echoing in your ears, most likely as you are
Speaker 2: listening to this. But there's so much more to this hotel.
Speaker 2: In eighteen seventy eight, Wyndham Thomas Quinn, the fourth Earl
Speaker 2: of dun Raven of Ireland, built the estes Park Hotel
Speaker 2: on this site. His opulent hotel was very successful as
Speaker 2: the West was booming and wealthy entrepreneurs from the East
Speaker 2: flocked to the Rockies. But then tragically the hotel was
Speaker 2: destroyed by fire in nineteen oh nine.
Speaker 1: F O.
Speaker 2: Stanley, inventor of the Stanley steamer auto and a lot
Speaker 2: of other inventions. He and his brother I went on
Speaker 2: the tour dev I could not believe all the stuff
Speaker 2: they invented, just two brilliant brothers. But he was told
Speaker 2: he only had like a couple of months to live
Speaker 2: because he had tuberculosis. And they told him to move
Speaker 2: to Denver. So he did and it didn't help at all,
Speaker 2: and the doctor was like, you got to go up higher.
Speaker 2: So that's how he and his wife found Estays Park
Speaker 2: and he lived a very, very long life. It completely
Speaker 2: restored his health. He and his wife Flora decided to
Speaker 2: build an elegant hotel that would rival the estates of
Speaker 2: the other robber barons in the East, like the Vanderbilts
Speaker 2: with their opulent Builtmore in Ashville. Opened on July fourth,
Speaker 2: nineteen oh nine, set against the breathtaking mountains, it boasted electricity, telephones,
Speaker 2: modern bathrooms, and a professional staff. This was the era
Speaker 2: of the aristocracy, traveling with their own maids and butlers,
Speaker 2: and they spent whole summers in establishments such as the Stanley.
Speaker 2: In fact, for some years, children, nannies and maids were
Speaker 2: relegated to rooms on the fourth floor, and there's some
Speaker 2: stories about that that Dud's going to share with us
Speaker 2: in a little bit. In nineteen eleven, a gas lantern
Speaker 2: accidentally exploded, interestingly in room two seventeen, causing significant damage
Speaker 2: to the hotel and gave us the first story of
Speaker 2: a hunting there. It's believed that Elizabeth Wilson, the chambermaid
Speaker 2: who was responsible for the explosion, still haunts the hotel.
Speaker 2: Guests report awakening in the morning to their room being
Speaker 2: tidier than when they went to bed, tossed close, neatly folded.
Speaker 2: There's also a story. If you look at the Stanley,
Speaker 2: to the right, another building and that's where single gentleman
Speaker 2: had to stay. So if you went to the Stanley
Speaker 2: and you were a bachelor, you couldn't stay in the
Speaker 2: hotel with other women. You had to stay in the
Speaker 2: gentleman's house. And it's reported that you if you stay
Speaker 2: in there and you're a single guy and you bring
Speaker 2: a woman to the room. She does not like that
Speaker 2: and will let you know. Sometimes the doors will slam,
Speaker 2: or you can't get into your hotel room, or your
Speaker 2: sheets will be lifted off of you.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Stanley died in nineteen forty and is said to haunt
Speaker 2: the bar and billiard room. It's said that missus Stanley
Speaker 2: haunts the concert hall. One fairly recent report says her
Speaker 2: impromptu concerns have become more frequent in recent years. While
Speaker 2: Room two seventeen is the most famous guest room in
Speaker 2: the hotel, it isn't really the most haunted. But here's
Speaker 2: how this room came to be so famous. So Stephen
Speaker 2: King and his wife, who's also an author, Tabitha King,
Speaker 2: decided to take a trip there in octobur over nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy four to spend a night at the Stanley, just
Speaker 2: a few days before the hotel closed for the winter.
Speaker 2: They were given room two seventeen. And you know, the
Speaker 2: hotel was pretty empty. They were all trying to close
Speaker 2: up for this seat for the year, so it had
Speaker 2: kind of a haunting feeling to it anyway, And it's
Speaker 2: from this that the seeds of the shining first sprung
Speaker 2: into his mind. He had a horrible nightmare that night,
Speaker 2: including a really scary incident with a child in the
Speaker 2: hall outside of Room two seventeen, and when he woke
Speaker 2: up he had the entire idea for the shining already
Speaker 2: in his head. It's actually the fourth floor that is
Speaker 2: the most haunted. Children can be heard running and laughing
Speaker 2: in the hallways. Room four oh one is said to
Speaker 2: be the most haunted room in the hotel. Some ghost
Speaker 2: report that a male ghost there who isn't very nice.
Speaker 2: Women claim to have been touched while standing at the
Speaker 2: room's close. One man said his wedding ring moved from
Speaker 2: the bathroom countertop and fell down the drain in the sink.
Speaker 2: In room four oh seven, many guests say they've been
Speaker 2: tucked into their beds at night. Others say someone sits
Speaker 2: at the foot of their bed. An invitation in the
Speaker 2: covers validates this claim. When the light is turned on.
Speaker 2: No No, No. In room four twenty eight, guests reports
Speaker 2: seeing a cowboy standing over their bed or standing in
Speaker 2: the corner. Some believe the cowboy was never a hotel guest,
Speaker 2: but is the spirit of James Nugent known as Rocky
Speaker 2: Mountain Jim, who was one of Ustay's Park's founders. Do
Speaker 2: you want to tell us about the Grand Staircase Vortex?
Speaker 1: So many psychics and mediums agree that the Grand staircase
Speaker 1: that leads from the hotel lobby to the second floor
Speaker 1: is a portal open for disembodied spirits to come and
Speaker 1: go into the hotel. It is called the vortex. There
Speaker 1: are men any documented sightings and photographs that bear out
Speaker 1: this idea. And there is also directly above the Grant staircase.
Speaker 1: It takes you from the lobby to the second floor,
Speaker 1: but straight above that on the fourth floor is an
Speaker 1: opening to what to the belfry, And there's a belief
Speaker 1: that there's a connection between that fourth floor opening to
Speaker 1: the belfry and the Grand Staircase down far below it.
Speaker 1: You can take lots of tours in the Stanley if
Speaker 1: you want to. Samantha's going to talk in a minute
Speaker 1: about the hotel dead guy, and then I want to
Speaker 1: tell some stories about how Joel and I spent two
Speaker 1: different trips doing ghost honey at the Stanley. So tell
Speaker 1: us what's happened recently, Samantha with the new owners.
Speaker 2: So the new owners have started another tour called the
Speaker 2: Frozen Dead guide tour and if you go over to
Speaker 2: their former ice house, it is now the home of
Speaker 2: a man from Norway actually who wished to be frozen
Speaker 2: and reawakened when they had a cure for the illness
Speaker 2: that killed him. And so you can actually go and
Speaker 2: tour it and see this frozen man. Now you can't
Speaker 2: see him. He's in a seal, like a silver tube
Speaker 2: that's all sealed. But it is pretty interesting to think about.
Speaker 2: I went on the Haunted tour of the hotel. My
Speaker 2: favorite story. There's a pet cemetery on the hotel and
Speaker 2: there was a golden retriever named Mollie and everyone loved her,
Speaker 2: and she would actually deliver newspapers to the guest residence
Speaker 2: doors every morning, and some people still report hearing like
Speaker 2: a little scratching at their door, as though a dog
Speaker 2: is there. And so the woman who was leading the
Speaker 2: ghost tour said that, you know, she loves working there,
Speaker 2: and so she'll she'll get there early in the morning
Speaker 2: and she has her coffee and just kind of like
Speaker 2: walks around the grounds because they're so beautiful there. And
Speaker 2: this one morning she walked over to the pet cemetery
Speaker 2: and she just kind of offered up them up a
Speaker 2: prayer and thanked them for their service and all that
Speaker 2: they contributed to the Stanley and said, you know, if
Speaker 2: anyone ever wants to join me on the tour, please
Speaker 2: feel free. So she takes a group on this tour
Speaker 2: and you go into the Billard's room, which I felt
Speaker 2: was the most haunted room in the hotel. You could
Speaker 2: feel a lot of energy in there. And there's a
Speaker 2: lot of mirrors, and she says, often if you took
Speaker 2: a picture of yourself in the mirror, you'll see a ghost.
Speaker 2: Usually it's mister Stanley. But she said one time she
Speaker 2: was that morning after she had gone to the pet cemetery,
Speaker 2: she's giving the tour and telling that story, took a
Speaker 2: picture in the mirror, And so one of the tour
Speaker 2: people took a picture of themselves in the mirror with
Speaker 2: the tour guide behind her, and she showed us this picture.
Speaker 2: Deb you can see clear as day an outline of
Speaker 2: a golden retriever. It looks like her two paws are
Speaker 2: on the tour leader's shoulders. It looks like Molly, the
Speaker 2: girl dog is giving her a hug.
Speaker 1: Oh, how lovely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just the sweetest thing tell us about
Speaker 2: your ghost investigations.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the first let me tell you this because
Speaker 1: it's important. The Stanley Hotel website has been updated recently
Speaker 1: and the homepage of the website is just lovely. It's
Speaker 1: like a drone view that brings you in from the
Speaker 1: sky down into the hotel grounds, and it's really lovely.
Speaker 1: The hotel itself is you shaped, so when you approach
Speaker 1: the hotel, there's a front piece and then there are
Speaker 1: on either ends wings that go back behind behind the hotel.
Speaker 1: So it's use shaped in that way. And that's important
Speaker 1: to the story because Joel and I had some interesting
Speaker 1: experiences in several places along the way. The first trip
Speaker 1: that we went there, we were in rooms four eleven
Speaker 1: and four thirteen, and we had come in from a
Speaker 1: beautiful day in the park. We had spent the day
Speaker 1: having a picnic in Moraine Park, we had seen elk,
Speaker 1: we had I mean, we just had this most lovely day.
Speaker 1: And so we went into the hotel and got into
Speaker 1: our rooms and we're going to freshen up and then
Speaker 1: meet for drinks and dinner in a little bit. So
Speaker 1: I get into my room and the phone rings and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, it's Joel. He needs to tell me something.
Speaker 1: So I pick up the phone and it's an old
Speaker 1: fashioned phone, y'all. I mean, like an old fashion phone.
Speaker 1: I answer the phone and there's nobody there, and I think, okay,
Speaker 1: that's really weird. But I put the phone down and think, well,
Speaker 1: somebody may have misstyled. I mean, you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of blowing it off at the moment. Well, in
Speaker 1: like three seconds flat, there's this knocking at my door,
Speaker 1: and I go to the door and there is Joel,
Speaker 1: and his eyes are as big as saucers, and he says,
Speaker 1: the fan in my room just turned on by itself.
Speaker 1: I said, okay, did you just call me? He said no.
Speaker 1: I said, oh, here we go. We haven't been here
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes yet. We go to dinner, and we have
Speaker 1: a lovely dinner downstairs in the hotel restaurant. And after
Speaker 1: dinner we wait a bit for things to kind of
Speaker 1: settle down in the allways in the downstairs to clear
Speaker 1: out a bit, and so we begin this very what
Speaker 1: to us is a very systematic investigation. Joel has a
Speaker 1: real old fashion thirty five milimeter camera. I have a
Speaker 1: compass in my hand some notepads, you know. So we're
Speaker 1: off and running. We're over here on the left hand
Speaker 1: side of the U in our separate rooms over here
Speaker 1: for this event. And so we're going to go from
Speaker 1: that side of the hall across the main floor and
Speaker 1: then over to the right hand side of the U.
Speaker 1: So we're going to start on the fourth floor. We're
Speaker 1: going to work our way downstairs and then work our
Speaker 1: way back up. So four one. The room that Samantha
Speaker 1: is describing as being very haunted is the Bridal Suite. Basically,
Speaker 1: it's in the center of the hotel. But we go
Speaker 1: around to the other side and we reach this place
Speaker 1: where it feels like we've been lifted up off the floor,
Speaker 1: and there's a little alcove and a little bench in
Speaker 1: this space, and we both just stop and look at
Speaker 1: each other and look down at our feet, and the
Speaker 1: sensation stops, and we're back down on the carpet. It's
Speaker 1: a very odd sensation. Directly across the hall from this
Speaker 1: is a lovely window looking out onto the mountains that
Speaker 1: are at this point just kind of in dusk. And
Speaker 1: I said Joel, take a picture of that window, and
Speaker 1: he did, and of course this is back in the
Speaker 1: days when you don't know what you're taking a picture of,
Speaker 1: other than what the camera's gonna eventually tell you. Right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pump, We're gonna print real pictures. So we
Speaker 1: continue on down the hallway, and as we get near
Speaker 1: the end of the hallway, this voice says Joel. And
Speaker 1: I looked at him, and he looked at me, and
Speaker 1: the expression on his face was please tell me you
Speaker 1: didn't hear that too, And I said, I did hear it,
Speaker 1: clear as day. We heard the word Joel. So we
Speaker 1: stopped to see if maybe basically really to kind of eavesdropping.
Speaker 1: I mean, there might have been somebody behind the door
Speaker 1: of the room we were standing in front of. His
Speaker 1: name was Joel, who knows not a dead silent, perfectly silent, okay.
Speaker 1: As we so we made our way downstairs. Of course,
Speaker 1: we're taking photographs, we're looking for orbs, we're watching my
Speaker 1: compass spin in places, we're sensing whatever we're sensing. We
Speaker 1: get down, of course, to the second floor. We are
Speaker 1: in that hallway in front of him two seventeen, which
Speaker 1: is real near a staircase, if I'm remembering correctly. Samantha
Speaker 1: and you know, there's a little plaque on the wall
Speaker 1: that says Stephen King was there. And so forth, we
Speaker 1: go down to the lobby and we're on that floor
Speaker 1: with a restaurant in the billiard's room and the bar
Speaker 1: and whatnot. And we go into the billiard's room in
Speaker 1: the bar, and I said, Joe, just shoot pictures into
Speaker 1: the mirror. See what happens. We don't have a picture
Speaker 1: of mister Stanley, but we have one of Missus Stanley.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, and clear as day there is her up
Speaker 1: from you know, about chest high up in that mirror.
Speaker 1: Clear's day, there's Missus Stanley. And we had several other
Speaker 1: events happened along the way there with that, with that trip.
Speaker 1: When we went back to a second a couple of
Speaker 1: years later, and we got there and they had been
Speaker 1: a mix up in our reservations and we ended up
Speaker 1: having to share a room. We shared room four of seven.
Speaker 1: Remember that's the room that Samantha said that someone sits
Speaker 1: at the foot of your bed, the covers move when
Speaker 1: the light turns on. Well, that's not what we experienced
Speaker 1: in four oh seven. But here's what we did. We
Speaker 1: get into this room as a result of having mixed
Speaker 1: up our reservations and putting us both in a room
Speaker 1: where we were sharing basically sort of twin beds. They
Speaker 1: sent up drinks, so we had strengths and stuff you
Speaker 1: normally put on a dresser in a hotel room. And
Speaker 1: Joel had two or three, maybe five shots left on
Speaker 1: a roll of film, and I said, just shoot, just
Speaker 1: take pictures in the mirror, take pictures around the room.
Speaker 1: And he did, and when we got the film developed,
Speaker 1: what we saw was images in the mirror behind what
Speaker 1: was you know, the stuff we had put on the
Speaker 1: mirror that were on the dressertop, Images in the mirror.
Speaker 1: And I had suggested because I said, you sleep in
Speaker 1: the bed by the door, so in case anybody comes,
Speaker 1: I don't have to deal with that. I'll sleep over
Speaker 1: here next to the closet. Unbeknownst to me, there was
Speaker 1: somebody standing in front of the closet, and we have
Speaker 1: pictures in addition to that. Later Joel was doing some
Speaker 1: research about what we had experienced. There's more on that
Speaker 1: fourth floor in that having stayed in room four oh seven,
Speaker 1: our bathroom overlooked the courtyard inside the U and someone
Speaker 1: had posted a picture on a website somewhere of a
Speaker 1: man standing in the window in our bathroom, and it
Speaker 1: was very old fashioned man. Joel truly believes it was
Speaker 1: Lord Dunraven. I'm not sure. But one of the things
Speaker 1: that we also did was we took toys with us
Speaker 1: and put them out in the hallway, because one of
Speaker 1: the things that was often noted on that side of
Speaker 1: the hallway in the hotel was that children would run
Speaker 1: up and down the hallway and during the night. Remember
Speaker 1: it was the fourth floor where during the height of
Speaker 1: the Stanley's fame during the Robber Barren era, families would
Speaker 1: come and stay all summer and bring their maids and
Speaker 1: nannies and children with them, and they were always relegated
Speaker 1: to that fourth floor. So we put toys out into
Speaker 1: the fourth floor and they were moved when we got
Speaker 1: up the next morning. I don't know whether somebody else
Speaker 1: came along during the night, I don't know, but in
Speaker 1: any case, they were not where we had left them
Speaker 1: when we went to bed. Joel woke up during the
Speaker 1: night and swear said they would he sent somebody in
Speaker 1: the room. I don't know. I did not, but that
Speaker 1: was an interesting experience with being in that really haunted
Speaker 1: room that particular time, and there are many more stories,
Speaker 1: but that's kind of enough to give you an idea
Speaker 1: that I can vouch for, the idea that there's some
Speaker 1: pretty spooky stuff going on at the Stanley. I have
Speaker 1: not been there, Like I said, Samantha has been there
Speaker 1: more recently than I have, and I have not been
Speaker 1: there since this cryogenetic cryogenic museum has been established. But
Speaker 1: I did do some research into the history of this
Speaker 1: frozen man. For a long time, his family kept him
Speaker 1: in a freezer in a shed in their yard with
Speaker 1: dry ice for years years.
Speaker 2: And it cost them so much money and salt.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. So now they've moved him to the Stanley
Speaker 1: Hotel in this silver cryogenetic triogenic tube Samantha has described.
Speaker 1: But in the town of Estes Park there is a
Speaker 1: frozen dead Guy's Day.
Speaker 2: It's a big deal. They have photos of it. You
Speaker 2: can go. They have all sorts of fun parties. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I'll find Dub there, but it just
Speaker 2: looks kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: You will not find deb there, although I will tell
Speaker 1: you I do think the Stanley is is absolutely lovely,
Speaker 1: and I enjoyed what Joel and I did there, and
Speaker 1: the pictures that we got in the Oh, let me
Speaker 1: go back to this real quick. When I asked j
Speaker 1: All to take a picture of the window across from
Speaker 1: the place where we were lifted up off the floor.
Speaker 1: When the picture came back, but what we saw at
Speaker 1: that window was just this lovely mountain view. There was
Speaker 1: this brown gloopy stuff all over the picture. Oh oh,
Speaker 1: I have the photograph.
Speaker 2: Well, you know now when you go up the top
Speaker 2: of the stairs, right in front of you is a
Speaker 2: double door and it leads to a seance room and
Speaker 2: it's decorated like a seance from the age of the Spiritualist.
Speaker 2: And there is a man there, a magician who performs
Speaker 2: seances there, and you can get tickets and go.
Speaker 1: That's different. That was the bridal Suite when I was
Speaker 1: last there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's the seance room.
Speaker 1: How about that.
Speaker 2: I know, I'll have to send you pictures of it.
Speaker 2: It was a little creepy.
Speaker 1: Well, but it's The hotel is lovely and the grounds
Speaker 1: are gorge I know they've built a lot of new
Speaker 1: buildings and places for staff to stay and so forth.
Speaker 1: It's different than when I was last there, but it's breathtaking.
Speaker 2: Well, I did feel that there's stuff there, just like
Speaker 2: the Grove Park. I didn't feel anything negative, did.
Speaker 1: You, No? I did not. I mean I no, I
Speaker 1: didn't feel anything negative. I just very clear that Missus
Speaker 1: Stanley was there, we saw her. I do believe that.
Speaker 1: But I do believe that because of such a history
Speaker 1: and such a place, that there are people who really
Speaker 1: liked being at the Stanley and they just never really
Speaker 1: wanted to leave. It's only the Stephen King stuff I
Speaker 1: think that gives it that creepy, bad scary aspect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the woman who survived that gas explosion that
Speaker 2: destroyed parts of the hotel and the fire, the family
Speaker 2: was very nice and they offered to give her enough
Speaker 2: money to retire the rest of her life. You know,
Speaker 2: they paid for her hospital bills, of course, but then
Speaker 2: they offered to give her money so she wouldn't have
Speaker 2: to work there anymore. And she turned it down deb
Speaker 2: because she wanted to keep coming every day to clean
Speaker 2: rooms and work at the Stanley. That's how much she
Speaker 2: loved it. And she worked there till the end of
Speaker 2: her life. And it was funny because she lived alone,
Speaker 2: and you know, she was old, but she'd been old
Speaker 2: for a long long time. And so this guy's at
Speaker 2: the Stanley working and he sees her coming in and
Speaker 2: he's like, hey, good morning, and they chat and about
Speaker 2: an hour later, some other hotel employees come in and
Speaker 2: they're all sad, and he's like, what's wrong, And they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: didn't you hear she died last night? And he's like, no, no,
Speaker 2: I just had a whole conversation with her this morning.
Speaker 2: So it's like she kept coming to work. So there's
Speaker 2: there's a lot of funnies, interesting fun not out funny,
Speaker 2: ha ha funny interesting stories about that.
Speaker 1: And we have pictures of lots of orbs. Golly, we
Speaker 1: got tons of orbs and most almost every hallway.
Speaker 2: We got lots of energy there, but a beautiful hotel
Speaker 2: to visit. As are all the ones we discussed.
Speaker 1: Absolutely they are. I hope everybody's enjoyed this. I we
Speaker 1: sure had fun putting it together.
Speaker 2: Yes, we definitely have. And unfortunately we are done with
Speaker 2: spooky season. I'm sure we'll do another spooky show here
Speaker 2: or there, but please join us next week when we're
Speaker 2: going to discuss six ways to jump start your intuition.
Speaker 2: We hope you have a beautiful, spookly fun end to
Speaker 2: your Halloween season. We'll be back with you next week.
Speaker 2: Remember as always, to be the light for yourself and others.
Speaker 1: Take care everyone,