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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host Deb

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<v Speaker 1>Bowen and I'm Samantha Fay, and we're so excited that

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<v Speaker 1>you are with us as we talk more about spooky stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can actually talk about this one fairly, Okay, Samantha.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the things that we realized that we'd

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<v Speaker 1>never actually done was give you a list of haunted hotels.

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<v Speaker 1>We've done some episodes on specific places, but we realized

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<v Speaker 1>that it would be nice if you kind of had

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<v Speaker 1>this master list of some of the most haunted hotels

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<v Speaker 1>in the country.

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<v Speaker 2>So kind of like remember that show we did, Paranormal

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<v Speaker 2>Road Trip. Yeah, it was so fun about just some

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<v Speaker 2>fun places you can visit along America. But this one

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<v Speaker 2>is just some hotels you can put on your radar

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<v Speaker 2>as you're traveling on the Paranormal road Trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you can, and I'm kind of all over the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to get various areas in the country, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course some places that are particularly near and dear

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<v Speaker 1>to our hearts as well. So come with us here

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<v Speaker 1>as we go on a road trip to some of

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<v Speaker 1>the most elegant places and some of the most haunted

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<v Speaker 1>places in the country, and I want to start at

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<v Speaker 1>the Grove Park Inn in Actuville, North Carolina, for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of reasons. One, as you all surely know from

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<v Speaker 1>listening to any news, you know how devastated the western

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<v Speaker 1>part of North Carolina was my Hurricane Helene. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have not heard any bad things about the Grove Park

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<v Speaker 1>in I do know that they're planning to reopen the

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<v Speaker 1>Biltmore House before Christmas. So, and I've spent some time

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<v Speaker 1>at the Grove Park and I know you have too,

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<v Speaker 1>Samantha's that not.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been there several times. It's my favorite hotel. You

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<v Speaker 2>can have dinner overlooking the mountains. They have a underground spat.

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<v Speaker 2>They have these little like walking trails, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>go on one of the walking trails, they have these

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<v Speaker 2>hidden gems like they're like the last time I was there,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a little bar, just a stone cottage. They

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<v Speaker 2>turned into a little bar on this walking trail. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>how lovely, let's go for a hike and have some wine.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a great plan. I I love the lobby.

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<v Speaker 1>You could stand inside the fireplace in the lobby. I

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<v Speaker 1>had drinks and or derbs in the lobby, and the

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<v Speaker 1>year that my Grief book came out, a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>mine was the head waiter in the fanciest of the

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<v Speaker 1>restaurants there, and he bought the wine for my party

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<v Speaker 1>of folks that were there for dinner that night. It

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the most elegant meals I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 1>It was absolutely a lovely, lovely experience to eat in

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<v Speaker 1>that restaurant as well. And in the fall, right before Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>they do a ginger red house exhibit. It is just breathtaking,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>You can always see the Grove Park Gingerbread House. They

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<v Speaker 2>keep that on exhibit. And if you stay in the hotel,

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<v Speaker 2>you go into the elevator, which is literally built into

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<v Speaker 2>the stone hearth of the fireplace that Dev's talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like behind there, and there's an elevator operator. So

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<v Speaker 2>you go in there and there's this lovely man and

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<v Speaker 2>he says what floor, and he winds the door closed

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<v Speaker 2>and you go up. So it really is like stepping

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<v Speaker 2>back in time.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is. But we digress. This is not what

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<v Speaker 1>we came to talk about. Here's what we came to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. This inn opened in nineteen thirteen. It was

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<v Speaker 1>built by a man whose name is was Edwin Wiley

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<v Speaker 1>Grove who made his fortune selling Groves Faceless Chill tonic,

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<v Speaker 1>which was a tonic for malaria, and it sold really

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<v Speaker 1>well in the same because it contained quinine, which is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that helps with malaria, and certainly

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<v Speaker 1>malaria was rampant in the South at this time. This

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirteen era was what was known as the age

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<v Speaker 1>of the robber Barons. These were extraordinarily wealthy people who

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<v Speaker 1>spent lavish and huge sums of money building amazing structures

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<v Speaker 1>and edifices, one of which was the Grove Park in

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<v Speaker 1>Grove came to Ashville on his doctor's advice. He was

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<v Speaker 1>told that being in Ashvill and in the mountain air

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<v Speaker 1>would be really good for his health, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>he began to see that there was a big tourist

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<v Speaker 1>business in the area. So he and his friend and

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<v Speaker 1>son in law, whose name was Thomas Seeley, soon began

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<v Speaker 1>construction on the Grove Park Inn. It has remained in

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<v Speaker 1>continuous operations since then and many famous people, including Samantha Fay,

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<v Speaker 1>have stayed there. But in addition to that, George Grit,

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Houdini, Fitzgerald and President Obama to name a few,

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<v Speaker 1>and because of the era in which this inn was built,

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<v Speaker 1>folks didn't just come and stay overnight back in those days.

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<v Speaker 1>They came for extended stays like the summer, and according

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<v Speaker 1>to legend, one of those guests from a long time

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<v Speaker 1>ago still walks the halls for one hundred years. Many

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<v Speaker 1>guests say that they have seen the Pink Lady of

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<v Speaker 1>Grove Park Inn. Some believe her to be the ghost

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<v Speaker 1>of a young woman who fell for her death from

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<v Speaker 1>a balcony on the fifth floor in the nineteen twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>She's usually seen in the form of kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>pink mist or sometimes as a full fledged apparition wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a pink ball gown. No one seems to know who

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<v Speaker 1>she is or her name. No one is sure why

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<v Speaker 1>she was at the inn in the first place. One

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<v Speaker 1>legend says that she was there for a clandestine rendezvous

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<v Speaker 1>with her married lover, and that she leapt from the

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<v Speaker 1>balcony when he told her the affair was over. Another

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<v Speaker 1>legend says that she was a debutante and fell accidentally.

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<v Speaker 1>It's said that she really enjoys the company of children

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<v Speaker 1>over that of adults, and children often report seeing her.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're taken ill, she comes and comforts them or

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<v Speaker 1>place with them in the hallway. Folks who work at

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<v Speaker 1>the end say she is responsible for electrical devices such

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<v Speaker 1>as lights and air conditioning turning off and on by itself.

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<v Speaker 1>She arranges objects differently in rooms and is said to

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<v Speaker 1>tickle the feet of sleeping guests at really a little disconcerting.

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<v Speaker 1>She haunts the halls and rooms of the entire hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>but her favorite room is five point forty five. Legend

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<v Speaker 1>says it was from this room's balcony that she met

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<v Speaker 1>her demise. Now, Samantha, would you like to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Growth Park Inn and stay in room four forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I stayed in the room right across from five

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<v Speaker 2>forty five, and there's a little plaque that says, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the Pink Lady's room, right And I walked

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<v Speaker 2>past that room every day, like on my way to

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<v Speaker 2>the elevator, and I did not feel her. But I

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<v Speaker 2>was sitting in you know that outdoor terrace where you

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<v Speaker 2>can sit and look up at the hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was having dinner there one night and I

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<v Speaker 2>just looked up at that fifth floor and I took

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<v Speaker 2>a photo and I do have an orb. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to find that photo and post it on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh doo ooh, it's right over that window. But I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you I never felt it does feel haunted in there,

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<v Speaker 2>but I never felt anything negative.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think anybody's ever reported anything negative. Just

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<v Speaker 1>that she's there, what she's doing, Tick on your feet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a beautiful place to haunt.

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<v Speaker 1>It sure is. It's lovely. Let's go to Arkansas. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to the eighteen eighty six Crescent Hotel and Spa

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<v Speaker 1>in Eureka Springs, Arkansas. Now, I went and did a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of research on photographs and so forth of this hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>and it too is lovely. It has been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different things over the years. It's been a women's college,

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<v Speaker 1>and at some point it was an experimental hospital run

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<v Speaker 1>by a Charlatan named Norman Baker who claimed to have

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<v Speaker 1>a cure for cancer. Many who have experienced ghosts here

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<v Speaker 1>believe that those ghosts are spirits of people who died

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<v Speaker 1>in his care. Ghost tours are available for the brave

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<v Speaker 1>of hearts. You can visit the Hotel Morgue, where people

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<v Speaker 1>have reported being poked by unseen hands, feeling cold spots,

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing dark figures. On the fourth floor, you can

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<v Speaker 1>visit the hotel's archives and if you're brave enough, request

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<v Speaker 1>room two eighteen, known as Michael's Room, which is reportedly

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<v Speaker 1>the most haunted room in the hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>I read that he's a stonemason who oh All to

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<v Speaker 2>his death during the construction, and so people have reported

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<v Speaker 2>like a cold breeze, or hearing footsteps, or seeing a

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<v Speaker 2>see through ghostly figure of a man in work clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that interesting? I know you can go in January

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<v Speaker 1>when the hotel hosts the Eureka Springs Paranormal Weekend, which

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<v Speaker 1>features over night ghost hunts, seminars, and access to most

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<v Speaker 1>of the properties haunted spaces. Apparently many places on this

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<v Speaker 1>ground are haunted, probably as a result of that Charlottan

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<v Speaker 1>hospital that was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Could it also be because Arkansas is so famous for

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<v Speaker 2>its courts. I wonder if that amplifies paranormal things, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>were I would think Limestone doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would think it would. And of course it'snatural springs.

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<v Speaker 1>There many of natural springs all over Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, we're going to go to New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's take a quick break first and we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>right back.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back. So let's head from Arkansas over to Lafonda

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<v Speaker 2>on the Plaza in Santa Fe, New Mexico. This stunning

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<v Speaker 2>hotel is the height of Southwest US luxury. Deb and

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<v Speaker 2>Joel went there, but you guys didn't stay there.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I'm going to talk about where we did

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<v Speaker 1>stay instead in a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, many buildings are there including a courthouse and other

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<v Speaker 2>inns that have been on the property since the sixteen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 2>The present inn was built in nineteen twenty two. John P. Slough,

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<v Speaker 2>a former New Mexico Chief Justice, was shot and killed

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<v Speaker 2>in the lobby in eighteen sixty seven and is said

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<v Speaker 2>to walk the halls at night. Guests report hearing his footsteps.

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<v Speaker 2>Another ghost is a bride who was murdered on her

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<v Speaker 2>wedding night in the bridal suite. Then, of course there's

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<v Speaker 2>the businessman who jumped into the hotel well after gambling

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<v Speaker 2>a way all his money. That's a lot of tragedy

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<v Speaker 2>in one hotel.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it really is, and it's absolutely beautiful. The grounds

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<v Speaker 1>are just lovely and there are lots of different buildings

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<v Speaker 1>as you mentioned on the grounds, but yeah, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff that happened there. But down the road,

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<v Speaker 1>not very far from Lafonda is Lapasada, and Joel and

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<v Speaker 1>I did stay there while we were in Santa Fe

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<v Speaker 1>for a few days a few years ago, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is just absolutely breathtaking. It too, is absolutely lovely in

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<v Speaker 1>that Adobe architecture that is just so prevalent there in

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<v Speaker 1>that beautiful stone is just gorgeous. But one aspect of

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<v Speaker 1>this story about Lapasada is that it's a fairly news story.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen seventy nine, a janitor reported seeing a woman

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<v Speaker 1>walking the halls dressed in a black Victorian, her hair

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<v Speaker 1>the age of fifty two. It is said that she

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<v Speaker 1>loved gardening, and that the fragrance of roses sometimes accompanies

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<v Speaker 1>her appearance. Others report swaying chandeliers and moving items in

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<v Speaker 1>a particular shelf flew off and crashed to the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>She might have been one of those folks who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think alcohol was a good idea. The most haunted room

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<v Speaker 1>is room two fifty six. Also, and I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 1>this is called Sweet one hundred, which is where Julia

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<v Speaker 2>They did a whole special on this on Unsolved mysteries,

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<v Speaker 2>the older ones with Robert Stock Oh okay, I remember correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>She had lost at least two children, oh dear, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think when the second one transitioned, she never left

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<v Speaker 2>that room again. She kind of just, you know, lost

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<v Speaker 2>her mind and broke her heart and she was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuck like a ghost for the last several years

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<v Speaker 2>of her life. It makes you wonder if someone's mindset

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably true. Now I have to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, it was absolutely beautiful, and Joel and

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<v Speaker 1>I were housed in a much more modern section of

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<v Speaker 1>if we did, we didn't pay a lot of attention

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<v Speaker 1>because when we were there, it was in June, and

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<v Speaker 1>hot transam car and it was blazing my research.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait wait, wait, hold on, Jewel had a transam.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know that story.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not know that story.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wake sure that it was. He didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>and we drove from Denver to Santa Fe in that

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<v Speaker 2>Actually color was it? Please tell me it wasn't red?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, it was black. Okay, it was black. A

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<v Speaker 1>whole other story, whole other story. But my research about

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<v Speaker 1>Lapisada indicated that only this old building, not the modern buildings,

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<v Speaker 1>are haunted there. I have to come back to the

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<v Speaker 1>story about the well, because there is the Red Lion

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<v Speaker 1>in in Apesbury is a lovely place, really good food.

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<v Speaker 1>I had lunch in the restaurant there, and while I

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting in the restaurant, I noticed that in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the floor in the restaurant was a well,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was covered over with a piece of glass

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<v Speaker 1>or plexiglass. And it was such a beautiful building. The

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant was old, dark wood and very quaint, and the

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<v Speaker 1>building itself was that whitewashed stone, and the thatched roof

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<v Speaker 1>held down with the ropes and the stones. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>But the restaurant is famous on this property for the

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<v Speaker 1>ghost of a woman who was murdered by her jealous

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<v Speaker 1>husband and he threw her down the well. The well

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<v Speaker 1>is still there, The woman's body is still in the

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<v Speaker 1>well down there. I'm sure by now it's not any right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is covered by glass, and it's right there,

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<v Speaker 1>just in the middle of the main dining room, and

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<v Speaker 1>they built the restaurant around it.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder why they never pulled her up and gave

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<v Speaker 2>her a proper burial.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the answer to any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you feel anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Only creepy? It was creepy. The food was good, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was creepy.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be so weird to be like eating a burger,

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<v Speaker 2>know that there's a murdered woman's body down on the

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<v Speaker 2>well in the center of the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty creepy. But there we were creepy. O.

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<v Speaker 1>They just bomed with things, you know. But take us

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<v Speaker 1>to the Red Lion and in Stockbridge, Massachusetts, which is different.

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<v Speaker 2>Stockbridge, Massachusetts is the place I absolutely love. Norman Walkwell

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<v Speaker 2>lived there. It's just a beautiful, beautiful town to tour.

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<v Speaker 2>The Red Lion in in this beautiful historic town traces

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<v Speaker 2>its history back to the seventeen hundreds, where it was

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<v Speaker 2>a gathering place for revolution is protesting the colony's treatment

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<v Speaker 2>by the British Parliament and planning boycotts of British goods.

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<v Speaker 2>Five US presidents have been guessed here, along with many

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<v Speaker 2>unknown travelers. A young girl is said to wander at

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth floor carrying flowers. A man in a top

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<v Speaker 2>hat walks those same walls. Room three oh one is

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<v Speaker 2>famously haunted. Guests have reported their bedsheets were tugged and

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<v Speaker 2>their toes pulled during the night. What is with the

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<v Speaker 2>feet fetish coast?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that they're everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>They're everywhere. Others say they have heard voices and feel

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<v Speaker 2>cold spots. I think Stockbridge should be on everyone's list.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got one of the best reenactment of colonial villages nearby.

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<v Speaker 2>It's there's beautiful hiking trails and if you can stop

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<v Speaker 2>in at a haunted inn. In addition, why not just

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<v Speaker 2>keep your feet covered under the sheets.

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<v Speaker 1>And remember that this is also the home of the

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant that was owned by Alice, who was a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of Olive Guthrie's made famous in the song Alice's Restaurant.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh cool?

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<v Speaker 1>You mean you can't recite every single word of that storng?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I cannot know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we'll move on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not the music historian like you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us about the Jackal Island Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So if you go over to Georgia, you can

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<v Speaker 2>visit the Jeckal Island Club Resort and Juckal Island. What

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<v Speaker 2>is it about these Gilded age robber baron Erra hotels?

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<v Speaker 2>They are everywhere. This luxury hotel sits on its own

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<v Speaker 2>private island and caters even now to the very rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Much perormal activity has been reported over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>Visitors sometimes see a bell hop on the second floor

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<v Speaker 2>that isn't there, or you might see cigar smoke wafting

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<v Speaker 2>through the hallways early in the morning. It's rumored that

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<v Speaker 2>this smoke comes from JP Morgan, who was a member

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<v Speaker 2>of this club. Unseen people sip coffee from guest cups

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<v Speaker 2>and read their newspapers when they leave their rooms. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's where I think we should draw the line, because

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<v Speaker 2>I know you, for Shore dev You're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>share your coffee with anyone. Not happening, not even if

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<v Speaker 2>it is JP Morgan.

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<v Speaker 1>JP Morgan buy his own cup of coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right here or in the afterlife exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go from Georgia to Boston. Oh and I

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<v Speaker 1>loved this. This was fun. I did not know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about all of this. The oldest can tenuously operating hotel

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<v Speaker 1>in the US since eighteen fifty five is the what

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<v Speaker 1>is now called the Omni Parker House was just the

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<v Speaker 1>Parker House when it opened. It's close to Boston Commons.

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<v Speaker 1>Its original owner, Harvey Parker, has been seen roaming the halls,

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<v Speaker 1>and famous orbs float along the tenth floor hallway. Guest

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<v Speaker 1>here whispers and see shadows. Notably, Charles Dickens resided in

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<v Speaker 1>a third floor room for five months, and they say

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<v Speaker 1>they often smell cigar smoke in this room. And I

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<v Speaker 1>assume that it is from this hotel that we got

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<v Speaker 1>the famous Parker House ropes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I would say New Orleans has to be the

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<v Speaker 2>most haunted city, but Boston has to be a close second.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know it. Yeah, absolutely. Ooh. I can't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about New Orleans, but we'll get there.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Let's go to Mount Washington. The Mount Washington

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<v Speaker 2>Resort was built in nineteen o two by railroad tycoon

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<v Speaker 2>Joseph Stickney. It's an elegant hotel in the White Mountains

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<v Speaker 2>of New Hampshire. It's considered one of the most haunted

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<v Speaker 2>hotels in all of New England. Called the Princess by

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<v Speaker 2>hotel staff, Stickney's wife, Carolyn Foster, Stickney remarried a French

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<v Speaker 2>royal after her husband died. Guests say they see her

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<v Speaker 2>wandering the halls dressed in Victorian clothing. If you stay

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<v Speaker 2>some night in what had been her third floor suite,

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<v Speaker 2>you may see her at the end of your bed

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<v Speaker 2>brushing her hair. Okay, that's fine. You can sit at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of my bed and brush your hair. Just

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<v Speaker 2>don't touch my.

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<v Speaker 1>Feet exactly, you know. Hello, I mean I'm saying a

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<v Speaker 1>ghost at the end of my bed is not a

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<v Speaker 1>bad thing. I mean, I certainly saw my father there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't want you touch in me. You knew,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? Take us to New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if you go over to New Orleans, you'll see

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ghosts. Who knows how many haunted hotels

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<v Speaker 2>there are New Orleans, But let's tell you about one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most famous in the French quarter. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>in the late eighteen hundreds, a toddler named Maurice Bager

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<v Speaker 2>died on the property of a high Fever and he

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<v Speaker 2>is often seen today on the fourteenth floor, which really dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't that be the thirteenth floor. Don't all these hotels

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<v Speaker 2>skip the thirteenth floor?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? Who knows what they do. Let's tell everybody the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the hotel is the Monte Leone. Am I

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<v Speaker 1>saying it correctly?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I believe so. Hotels Leone and New Orleans. People

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<v Speaker 2>also say that the former employee, William red Wildemere, continues

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<v Speaker 2>to hang around, arguing with the ghost of a chef

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<v Speaker 2>and a server about whether or not to keep the

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<v Speaker 2>hotel open. I'd like to witness that a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>goo in an argument.

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<v Speaker 1>It'd be interesting to listen to that conversation, wouldn't it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And back to Massachusetts and of course Salem. The Hawthorne

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<v Speaker 1>Hotel is of course a haunted place, although those who

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<v Speaker 1>study the history of the witch trials in this area

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<v Speaker 1>know the real stories. Situated across from Salem Common, this

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<v Speaker 1>hotel has its share of ghostly legends, furniture moves, unexplained noises,

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<v Speaker 1>strange smells, apparitions, a baby cries on the third flour,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course, the ghost of Bridget Bishop, the first

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<v Speaker 1>woman executed in the trials, is said to wander the halls.

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<v Speaker 1>Salem hosts thousands of visitors, particularly in October every year,

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<v Speaker 1>and the hotel, of course, is named after literary Titan

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<v Speaker 1>Nathaniel Hawthorne.

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<v Speaker 2>I have an unghostly story to share about him that

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<v Speaker 2>our fellow writers will appreciate. He was married to the

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<v Speaker 2>love of his life, and he was working and trying

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<v Speaker 2>to write his books, you know, at night after work,

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<v Speaker 2>and could not get up the confidence to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't have time to keep writing. And he was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, forget it. I'm just going to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>give up. So we would never have the House of

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<v Speaker 2>Seven Gables if it weren't for his wife, who had

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<v Speaker 2>quietly been saving the household money that he gave her

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<v Speaker 2>each week. She would save a little penny here, a

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<v Speaker 2>little penny there for a year or two, and ended

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<v Speaker 2>up saving up enough money for him to quit his

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<v Speaker 2>job for a whole year so he could just focus

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<v Speaker 2>on finishing that book.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh how lovely, What.

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<v Speaker 2>A beautiful gift to give to your partner. And then,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, you know, he went on to write all

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<v Speaker 2>the literary classics we all had to read in high school. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, let's travel over to New York City, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to take our last break. We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so excited that my new book, Heavenly Alliance

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<v Speaker 2>is out and getting really good buzz from you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I am closing registration for my self paced to Row

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, dev do you want to tell us about the

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<v Speaker 2>Hotel Chelsea?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? I woke up it was a Chelsea morning, says

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<v Speaker 1>Joni Mitchell. The list of the rich, famous, eccentric, talented

469
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<v Speaker 1>and artistic people who have been guessed at this hotel

470
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<v Speaker 1>since it opened in eighteen eighty four is astounding. Here

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<v Speaker 1>are a few folks who have stayed and probably continues

472
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<v Speaker 1>to stay. Perhaps there Pattie Smith, Mark Twain, Andy Warhol,

473
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Bob Dylan, Madonna, Jimmy Hendrix, and of course Jannis Jopper.

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<v Speaker 1>Considered one of the most haunted hotels in New York,

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<v Speaker 1>it is home to many strange deaths, including several suicides

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<v Speaker 1>and murders. The Hotel Chelsea is allegedly haunted by a

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<v Speaker 1>woman named Mary, who survived the Titanic sinking but lost

478
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<v Speaker 1>her husband and Larry, a ghost who tries to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone who will listen. I'd love to know if

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<v Speaker 1>Janice and Jimmy walk the halls or sing in the lobby.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard anybody say that, but boy, wouldn't that

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<v Speaker 1>be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so interesting that so many of these robber

484
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<v Speaker 2>barons built these beautiful, beautiful buildings that we still treasure today,

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<v Speaker 2>and we don't see that anymore. We have robber barons today.

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<v Speaker 1>We do, but they're not building elegant hotels.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not building elegant hotels. You know what I was in.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to go to New York City with Michael

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<v Speaker 2>this summer for a work thing. So he was working

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<v Speaker 2>one day and I just decided to stay in the

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<v Speaker 2>New York City Public Library and do some work myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's so beautiful in that rose room, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was just looking around at the exquisiteness, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>just started, you know, researching, like how long did it

495
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<v Speaker 2>take to build this? So it turned out that the

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<v Speaker 2>library was built by some of the robber barons. Andrew

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<v Speaker 2>Carnegie gave five million dollars, and I was like, gosh,

498
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<v Speaker 2>why don't they build stuff like this anymore? And you know,

499
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<v Speaker 2>everyone was saying, well, it's cost too much money. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>five point two million back then is one hundred and

501
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.240
<v Speaker 2>sixty million today. And we know we spend more than

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<v Speaker 2>that building I don't know target, you know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>why can't we build beautiful stuff anymore? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to haunt these new buildings, deb I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna want. I don't want to haunt these newer hotels,

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<v Speaker 2>know me.

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<v Speaker 1>Either give me a choice and I would be at

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<v Speaker 1>the Grove park in or the Stanley. Will talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that soon. Let's instead go to the Mispa Hotel in

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<v Speaker 1>Tanta Punk, Nevada. Opened in nineteen oh seven, the Mispa

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<v Speaker 1>Hotel wants cater to wealth the investors during the silver

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<v Speaker 1>mining boom. Of course, today, however, it is best known

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<v Speaker 1>for its ghost, the most famous of whom is the

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<v Speaker 1>Lady in Red. We go from a pink lady in

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<v Speaker 1>Asheville to a Lady in Red in Nevada. She is

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<v Speaker 1>said to have been horribly murdered by a jealous lover,

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<v Speaker 1>and she leaves pearls beneath guest pillows and rearranges their belongings.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't it be wild to found a pearl under your

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<v Speaker 1>pillow in that hotel?

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00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes? I'd like to see photos of this. I would too,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if they're real pearls.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think that's an interesting question.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you can leave a pearl under my foot and

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't complain.

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<v Speaker 1>A Let's go to Nashville to Union stations, Nashville Yards. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a train station. This hotel is a prime ghost,

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<v Speaker 1>funny location. The story of Abigail is quite famous. She

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<v Speaker 1>lost her lover, her husband somebody in World War two

529
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<v Speaker 1>and flung herself in front of a moving train at

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<v Speaker 1>the same station where she bid him farewell as he

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00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:05.960
<v Speaker 1>went to war. In France. Guests describe seeing for walking

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<v Speaker 1>the halls and haunting rooms. Seven eleven guests in that

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00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.039
<v Speaker 1>room say lights flicker and they have taken photos of

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00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>apparitions that appear in mirrors. I will talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. Temperatures plummet and strange noises come from the ceiling.

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<v Speaker 2>No thank you, you know me either. Speaking of another note,

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<v Speaker 2>how about staying at the historic Lizzie Borden House in

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<v Speaker 2>Fall River, Massachusetts. This has been turned into an inn.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the story and the rhyme. Lizzie Borden, although acquitted,

540
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<v Speaker 2>is still believed by many to have hacked her parents,

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<v Speaker 2>Abby and Andrew Borden to death with a hatchet. You

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<v Speaker 2>can take a guided tour of the historic Lizzie Borden

543
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:53.720
<v Speaker 2>House's first floor in basement, or you can book an

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<v Speaker 2>overnight stay in the John V. Moore Suite, where Abby's

545
00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:01.759
<v Speaker 2>body was found. Rave souls who have stayed here say

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<v Speaker 2>they see objects moving, hear footsteps and voices, smell strange odors,

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00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:13.319
<v Speaker 2>and see figures. Let's wrap up with the Stanley Hotel

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<v Speaker 2>and Estes Park, Colorado. You want to tell us about.

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<v Speaker 1>That, well, I want to, but I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>tell us because you've been there more recently than I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, I just came back from there. It was

552
00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>absolutely beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>We know.

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00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:31.279
<v Speaker 2>The Stanley is famous from Stephen King's The Shining, which

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00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:35.359
<v Speaker 2>he wrote after spending considerable time writing The stand in

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<v Speaker 2>Room two seventeen at the Stanley Hotel. You've probably seen

557
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:43.519
<v Speaker 2>the movie with Jack Nicholson and the words red Rum

558
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:46.559
<v Speaker 2>are echoing in your ears, most likely as you are

559
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:50.960
<v Speaker 2>listening to this. But there's so much more to this hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>In eighteen seventy eight, Wyndham Thomas Quinn, the fourth Earl

561
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<v Speaker 2>of dun Raven of Ireland, built the estes Park Hotel

562
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:03.000
<v Speaker 2>on this site. His opulent hotel was very successful as

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00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.799
<v Speaker 2>the West was booming and wealthy entrepreneurs from the East

564
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:09.480
<v Speaker 2>flocked to the Rockies. But then tragically the hotel was

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<v Speaker 2>destroyed by fire in nineteen oh nine.

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<v Speaker 1>F O.

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<v Speaker 2>Stanley, inventor of the Stanley steamer auto and a lot

568
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<v Speaker 2>of other inventions. He and his brother I went on

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00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 2>the tour dev I could not believe all the stuff

570
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 2>they invented, just two brilliant brothers. But he was told

571
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<v Speaker 2>he only had like a couple of months to live

572
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<v Speaker 2>because he had tuberculosis. And they told him to move

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00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:37.319
<v Speaker 2>to Denver. So he did and it didn't help at all,

574
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:40.200
<v Speaker 2>and the doctor was like, you got to go up higher.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's how he and his wife found Estays Park

576
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>and he lived a very, very long life. It completely

577
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:50.400
<v Speaker 2>restored his health. He and his wife Flora decided to

578
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<v Speaker 2>build an elegant hotel that would rival the estates of

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<v Speaker 2>the other robber barons in the East, like the Vanderbilts

580
00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:01.079
<v Speaker 2>with their opulent Builtmore in Ashville. Opened on July fourth,

581
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:07.720
<v Speaker 2>nineteen oh nine, set against the breathtaking mountains, it boasted electricity, telephones,

582
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:11.880
<v Speaker 2>modern bathrooms, and a professional staff. This was the era

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<v Speaker 2>of the aristocracy, traveling with their own maids and butlers,

584
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<v Speaker 2>and they spent whole summers in establishments such as the Stanley.

585
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 2>In fact, for some years, children, nannies and maids were

586
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<v Speaker 2>relegated to rooms on the fourth floor, and there's some

587
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:28.159
<v Speaker 2>stories about that that Dud's going to share with us

588
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>in a little bit. In nineteen eleven, a gas lantern

589
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:38.079
<v Speaker 2>accidentally exploded, interestingly in room two seventeen, causing significant damage

590
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 2>to the hotel and gave us the first story of

591
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:45.440
<v Speaker 2>a hunting there. It's believed that Elizabeth Wilson, the chambermaid

592
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 2>who was responsible for the explosion, still haunts the hotel.

593
00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Guests report awakening in the morning to their room being

594
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:56.559
<v Speaker 2>tidier than when they went to bed, tossed close, neatly folded.

595
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<v Speaker 2>There's also a story. If you look at the Stanley,

596
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:03.719
<v Speaker 2>to the right, another building and that's where single gentleman

597
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:07.199
<v Speaker 2>had to stay. So if you went to the Stanley

598
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:09.800
<v Speaker 2>and you were a bachelor, you couldn't stay in the

599
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:12.239
<v Speaker 2>hotel with other women. You had to stay in the

600
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:16.480
<v Speaker 2>gentleman's house. And it's reported that you if you stay

601
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 2>in there and you're a single guy and you bring

602
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:21.039
<v Speaker 2>a woman to the room. She does not like that

603
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 2>and will let you know. Sometimes the doors will slam,

604
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:26.599
<v Speaker 2>or you can't get into your hotel room, or your

605
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 2>sheets will be lifted off of you.

606
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<v Speaker 1>Now.

607
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Stanley died in nineteen forty and is said to haunt

608
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.760
<v Speaker 2>the bar and billiard room. It's said that missus Stanley

609
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:40.199
<v Speaker 2>haunts the concert hall. One fairly recent report says her

610
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<v Speaker 2>impromptu concerns have become more frequent in recent years. While

611
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<v Speaker 2>Room two seventeen is the most famous guest room in

612
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<v Speaker 2>the hotel, it isn't really the most haunted. But here's

613
00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.599
<v Speaker 2>how this room came to be so famous. So Stephen

614
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:57.960
<v Speaker 2>King and his wife, who's also an author, Tabitha King,

615
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.679
<v Speaker 2>decided to take a trip there in octobur over nineteen

616
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:04.119
<v Speaker 2>seventy four to spend a night at the Stanley, just

617
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:06.400
<v Speaker 2>a few days before the hotel closed for the winter.

618
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.960
<v Speaker 2>They were given room two seventeen. And you know, the

619
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:13.559
<v Speaker 2>hotel was pretty empty. They were all trying to close

620
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 2>up for this seat for the year, so it had

621
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:19.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of a haunting feeling to it anyway, And it's

622
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.440
<v Speaker 2>from this that the seeds of the shining first sprung

623
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:26.280
<v Speaker 2>into his mind. He had a horrible nightmare that night,

624
00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:30.199
<v Speaker 2>including a really scary incident with a child in the

625
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:33.400
<v Speaker 2>hall outside of Room two seventeen, and when he woke

626
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:36.519
<v Speaker 2>up he had the entire idea for the shining already

627
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 2>in his head. It's actually the fourth floor that is

628
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<v Speaker 2>the most haunted. Children can be heard running and laughing

629
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<v Speaker 2>in the hallways. Room four oh one is said to

630
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.840
<v Speaker 2>be the most haunted room in the hotel. Some ghost

631
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:56.800
<v Speaker 2>report that a male ghost there who isn't very nice.

632
00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Women claim to have been touched while standing at the

633
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:02.920
<v Speaker 2>room's close. One man said his wedding ring moved from

634
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.719
<v Speaker 2>the bathroom countertop and fell down the drain in the sink.

635
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.480
<v Speaker 2>In room four oh seven, many guests say they've been

636
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 2>tucked into their beds at night. Others say someone sits

637
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.480
<v Speaker 2>at the foot of their bed. An invitation in the

638
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:19.880
<v Speaker 2>covers validates this claim. When the light is turned on.

639
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.519
<v Speaker 2>No No, No. In room four twenty eight, guests reports

640
00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:27.519
<v Speaker 2>seeing a cowboy standing over their bed or standing in

641
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:31.679
<v Speaker 2>the corner. Some believe the cowboy was never a hotel guest,

642
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 2>but is the spirit of James Nugent known as Rocky

643
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Mountain Jim, who was one of Ustay's Park's founders. Do

644
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.920
<v Speaker 2>you want to tell us about the Grand Staircase Vortex?

645
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:46.719
<v Speaker 1>So many psychics and mediums agree that the Grand staircase

646
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.920
<v Speaker 1>that leads from the hotel lobby to the second floor

647
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:54.519
<v Speaker 1>is a portal open for disembodied spirits to come and

648
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:59.199
<v Speaker 1>go into the hotel. It is called the vortex. There

649
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 1>are men any documented sightings and photographs that bear out

650
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:09.760
<v Speaker 1>this idea. And there is also directly above the Grant staircase.

651
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.199
<v Speaker 1>It takes you from the lobby to the second floor,

652
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 1>but straight above that on the fourth floor is an

653
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:20.119
<v Speaker 1>opening to what to the belfry, And there's a belief

654
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:23.840
<v Speaker 1>that there's a connection between that fourth floor opening to

655
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the belfry and the Grand Staircase down far below it.

656
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>You can take lots of tours in the Stanley if

657
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:34.559
<v Speaker 1>you want to. Samantha's going to talk in a minute

658
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.320
<v Speaker 1>about the hotel dead guy, and then I want to

659
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 1>tell some stories about how Joel and I spent two

660
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:44.199
<v Speaker 1>different trips doing ghost honey at the Stanley. So tell

661
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 1>us what's happened recently, Samantha with the new owners.

662
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:51.199
<v Speaker 2>So the new owners have started another tour called the

663
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Frozen Dead guide tour and if you go over to

664
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:59.079
<v Speaker 2>their former ice house, it is now the home of

665
00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:03.760
<v Speaker 2>a man from Norway actually who wished to be frozen

666
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:09.280
<v Speaker 2>and reawakened when they had a cure for the illness

667
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:12.519
<v Speaker 2>that killed him. And so you can actually go and

668
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:15.760
<v Speaker 2>tour it and see this frozen man. Now you can't

669
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:18.559
<v Speaker 2>see him. He's in a seal, like a silver tube

670
00:39:18.639 --> 00:39:23.119
<v Speaker 2>that's all sealed. But it is pretty interesting to think about.

671
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I went on the Haunted tour of the hotel. My

672
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 2>favorite story. There's a pet cemetery on the hotel and

673
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.360
<v Speaker 2>there was a golden retriever named Mollie and everyone loved her,

674
00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:41.719
<v Speaker 2>and she would actually deliver newspapers to the guest residence

675
00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:45.119
<v Speaker 2>doors every morning, and some people still report hearing like

676
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:47.400
<v Speaker 2>a little scratching at their door, as though a dog

677
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:50.159
<v Speaker 2>is there. And so the woman who was leading the

678
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.800
<v Speaker 2>ghost tour said that, you know, she loves working there,

679
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:54.679
<v Speaker 2>and so she'll she'll get there early in the morning

680
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:56.320
<v Speaker 2>and she has her coffee and just kind of like

681
00:39:56.360 --> 00:39:59.639
<v Speaker 2>walks around the grounds because they're so beautiful there. And

682
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.360
<v Speaker 2>this one morning she walked over to the pet cemetery

683
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:04.719
<v Speaker 2>and she just kind of offered up them up a

684
00:40:04.760 --> 00:40:08.440
<v Speaker 2>prayer and thanked them for their service and all that

685
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.320
<v Speaker 2>they contributed to the Stanley and said, you know, if

686
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:13.519
<v Speaker 2>anyone ever wants to join me on the tour, please

687
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:16.760
<v Speaker 2>feel free. So she takes a group on this tour

688
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:20.079
<v Speaker 2>and you go into the Billard's room, which I felt

689
00:40:20.119 --> 00:40:22.119
<v Speaker 2>was the most haunted room in the hotel. You could

690
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.320
<v Speaker 2>feel a lot of energy in there. And there's a

691
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:26.719
<v Speaker 2>lot of mirrors, and she says, often if you took

692
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:29.880
<v Speaker 2>a picture of yourself in the mirror, you'll see a ghost.

693
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Usually it's mister Stanley. But she said one time she

694
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:36.320
<v Speaker 2>was that morning after she had gone to the pet cemetery,

695
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:38.599
<v Speaker 2>she's giving the tour and telling that story, took a

696
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:41.880
<v Speaker 2>picture in the mirror, And so one of the tour

697
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:45.320
<v Speaker 2>people took a picture of themselves in the mirror with

698
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:48.480
<v Speaker 2>the tour guide behind her, and she showed us this picture.

699
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:52.159
<v Speaker 2>Deb you can see clear as day an outline of

700
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:56.000
<v Speaker 2>a golden retriever. It looks like her two paws are

701
00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 2>on the tour leader's shoulders. It looks like Molly, the

702
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:01.440
<v Speaker 2>girl dog is giving her a hug.

703
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh, how lovely.

704
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was just the sweetest thing tell us about

705
00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:07.800
<v Speaker 2>your ghost investigations.

706
00:41:08.079 --> 00:41:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the first let me tell you this because

707
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>it's important. The Stanley Hotel website has been updated recently

708
00:41:16.400 --> 00:41:19.800
<v Speaker 1>and the homepage of the website is just lovely. It's

709
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>like a drone view that brings you in from the

710
00:41:23.480 --> 00:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>sky down into the hotel grounds, and it's really lovely.

711
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:32.079
<v Speaker 1>The hotel itself is you shaped, so when you approach

712
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:36.320
<v Speaker 1>the hotel, there's a front piece and then there are

713
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>on either ends wings that go back behind behind the hotel.

714
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 1>So it's use shaped in that way. And that's important

715
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:48.599
<v Speaker 1>to the story because Joel and I had some interesting

716
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:52.559
<v Speaker 1>experiences in several places along the way. The first trip

717
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:56.119
<v Speaker 1>that we went there, we were in rooms four eleven

718
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>and four thirteen, and we had come in from a

719
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.480
<v Speaker 1>beautiful day in the park. We had spent the day

720
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>having a picnic in Moraine Park, we had seen elk,

721
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:10.280
<v Speaker 1>we had I mean, we just had this most lovely day.

722
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>And so we went into the hotel and got into

723
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.199
<v Speaker 1>our rooms and we're going to freshen up and then

724
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>meet for drinks and dinner in a little bit. So

725
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:24.199
<v Speaker 1>I get into my room and the phone rings and

726
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, oh, it's Joel. He needs to tell me something.

727
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>So I pick up the phone and it's an old

728
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.920
<v Speaker 1>fashioned phone, y'all. I mean, like an old fashion phone.

729
00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I answer the phone and there's nobody there, and I think, okay,

730
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:39.519
<v Speaker 1>that's really weird. But I put the phone down and think, well,

731
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:41.760
<v Speaker 1>somebody may have misstyled. I mean, you know, I'm just

732
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:44.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of blowing it off at the moment. Well, in

733
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:47.480
<v Speaker 1>like three seconds flat, there's this knocking at my door,

734
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and I go to the door and there is Joel,

735
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:52.519
<v Speaker 1>and his eyes are as big as saucers, and he says,

736
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the fan in my room just turned on by itself.

737
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I said, okay, did you just call me? He said no.

738
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:00.679
<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, here we go. We haven't been here

739
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:03.760
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes yet. We go to dinner, and we have

740
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:09.679
<v Speaker 1>a lovely dinner downstairs in the hotel restaurant. And after

741
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:12.519
<v Speaker 1>dinner we wait a bit for things to kind of

742
00:43:12.559 --> 00:43:15.559
<v Speaker 1>settle down in the allways in the downstairs to clear

743
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 1>out a bit, and so we begin this very what

744
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:23.039
<v Speaker 1>to us is a very systematic investigation. Joel has a

745
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:26.360
<v Speaker 1>real old fashion thirty five milimeter camera. I have a

746
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>compass in my hand some notepads, you know. So we're

747
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:33.360
<v Speaker 1>off and running. We're over here on the left hand

748
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:37.039
<v Speaker 1>side of the U in our separate rooms over here

749
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>for this event. And so we're going to go from

750
00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:45.639
<v Speaker 1>that side of the hall across the main floor and

751
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:48.880
<v Speaker 1>then over to the right hand side of the U.

752
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:51.119
<v Speaker 1>So we're going to start on the fourth floor. We're

753
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>going to work our way downstairs and then work our

754
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:57.920
<v Speaker 1>way back up. So four one. The room that Samantha

755
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:04.079
<v Speaker 1>is describing as being very haunted is the Bridal Suite. Basically,

756
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:06.599
<v Speaker 1>it's in the center of the hotel. But we go

757
00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>around to the other side and we reach this place

758
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:15.760
<v Speaker 1>where it feels like we've been lifted up off the floor,

759
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:21.119
<v Speaker 1>and there's a little alcove and a little bench in

760
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.159
<v Speaker 1>this space, and we both just stop and look at

761
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.880
<v Speaker 1>each other and look down at our feet, and the

762
00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:31.119
<v Speaker 1>sensation stops, and we're back down on the carpet. It's

763
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:35.119
<v Speaker 1>a very odd sensation. Directly across the hall from this

764
00:44:35.679 --> 00:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>is a lovely window looking out onto the mountains that

765
00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>are at this point just kind of in dusk. And

766
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I said Joel, take a picture of that window, and

767
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:45.679
<v Speaker 1>he did, and of course this is back in the

768
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:47.880
<v Speaker 1>days when you don't know what you're taking a picture of,

769
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:50.119
<v Speaker 1>other than what the camera's gonna eventually tell you. Right,

770
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:53.280
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna pump, We're gonna print real pictures. So we

771
00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>continue on down the hallway, and as we get near

772
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the end of the hallway, this voice says Joel. And

773
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I looked at him, and he looked at me, and

774
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the expression on his face was please tell me you

775
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:17.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't hear that too, And I said, I did hear it,

776
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:20.519
<v Speaker 1>clear as day. We heard the word Joel. So we

777
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>stopped to see if maybe basically really to kind of eavesdropping.

778
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there might have been somebody behind the door

779
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:29.119
<v Speaker 1>of the room we were standing in front of. His

780
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:35.079
<v Speaker 1>name was Joel, who knows not a dead silent, perfectly silent, okay.

781
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:38.079
<v Speaker 1>As we so we made our way downstairs. Of course,

782
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 1>we're taking photographs, we're looking for orbs, we're watching my

783
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 1>compass spin in places, we're sensing whatever we're sensing. We

784
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:51.519
<v Speaker 1>get down, of course, to the second floor. We are

785
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.280
<v Speaker 1>in that hallway in front of him two seventeen, which

786
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:57.559
<v Speaker 1>is real near a staircase, if I'm remembering correctly. Samantha

787
00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:00.559
<v Speaker 1>and you know, there's a little plaque on the wall

788
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>that says Stephen King was there. And so forth, we

789
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:07.320
<v Speaker 1>go down to the lobby and we're on that floor

790
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 1>with a restaurant in the billiard's room and the bar

791
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. And we go into the billiard's room in

792
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:18.039
<v Speaker 1>the bar, and I said, Joe, just shoot pictures into

793
00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the mirror. See what happens. We don't have a picture

794
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:25.079
<v Speaker 1>of mister Stanley, but we have one of Missus Stanley.

795
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, and clear as day there is her up

796
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:34.239
<v Speaker 1>from you know, about chest high up in that mirror.

797
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Clear's day, there's Missus Stanley. And we had several other

798
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:43.639
<v Speaker 1>events happened along the way there with that, with that trip.

799
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.760
<v Speaker 1>When we went back to a second a couple of

800
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:49.599
<v Speaker 1>years later, and we got there and they had been

801
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a mix up in our reservations and we ended up

802
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:57.320
<v Speaker 1>having to share a room. We shared room four of seven.

803
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:03.559
<v Speaker 1>Remember that's the room that Samantha said that someone sits

804
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>at the foot of your bed, the covers move when

805
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 1>the light turns on. Well, that's not what we experienced

806
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:12.519
<v Speaker 1>in four oh seven. But here's what we did. We

807
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.880
<v Speaker 1>get into this room as a result of having mixed

808
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.079
<v Speaker 1>up our reservations and putting us both in a room

809
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:22.320
<v Speaker 1>where we were sharing basically sort of twin beds. They

810
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 1>sent up drinks, so we had strengths and stuff you

811
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:28.519
<v Speaker 1>normally put on a dresser in a hotel room. And

812
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:32.519
<v Speaker 1>Joel had two or three, maybe five shots left on

813
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:34.840
<v Speaker 1>a roll of film, and I said, just shoot, just

814
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:37.519
<v Speaker 1>take pictures in the mirror, take pictures around the room.

815
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.599
<v Speaker 1>And he did, and when we got the film developed,

816
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:46.920
<v Speaker 1>what we saw was images in the mirror behind what

817
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:49.159
<v Speaker 1>was you know, the stuff we had put on the

818
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.559
<v Speaker 1>mirror that were on the dressertop, Images in the mirror.

819
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:56.639
<v Speaker 1>And I had suggested because I said, you sleep in

820
00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the bed by the door, so in case anybody comes,

821
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to deal with that. I'll sleep over

822
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:06.800
<v Speaker 1>here next to the closet. Unbeknownst to me, there was

823
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.159
<v Speaker 1>somebody standing in front of the closet, and we have

824
00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:13.760
<v Speaker 1>pictures in addition to that. Later Joel was doing some

825
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:18.039
<v Speaker 1>research about what we had experienced. There's more on that

826
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:21.119
<v Speaker 1>fourth floor in that having stayed in room four oh seven,

827
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:29.360
<v Speaker 1>our bathroom overlooked the courtyard inside the U and someone

828
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:33.039
<v Speaker 1>had posted a picture on a website somewhere of a

829
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:37.119
<v Speaker 1>man standing in the window in our bathroom, and it

830
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.719
<v Speaker 1>was very old fashioned man. Joel truly believes it was

831
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Lord Dunraven. I'm not sure. But one of the things

832
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:48.000
<v Speaker 1>that we also did was we took toys with us

833
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and put them out in the hallway, because one of

834
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the things that was often noted on that side of

835
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:58.400
<v Speaker 1>the hallway in the hotel was that children would run

836
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:01.639
<v Speaker 1>up and down the hallway and during the night. Remember

837
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:04.679
<v Speaker 1>it was the fourth floor where during the height of

838
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 1>the Stanley's fame during the Robber Barren era, families would

839
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:10.719
<v Speaker 1>come and stay all summer and bring their maids and

840
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:13.360
<v Speaker 1>nannies and children with them, and they were always relegated

841
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.519
<v Speaker 1>to that fourth floor. So we put toys out into

842
00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:20.039
<v Speaker 1>the fourth floor and they were moved when we got

843
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 1>up the next morning. I don't know whether somebody else

844
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:27.840
<v Speaker 1>came along during the night, I don't know, but in

845
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.400
<v Speaker 1>any case, they were not where we had left them

846
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>when we went to bed. Joel woke up during the

847
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:37.239
<v Speaker 1>night and swear said they would he sent somebody in

848
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 1>the room. I don't know. I did not, but that

849
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:46.519
<v Speaker 1>was an interesting experience with being in that really haunted

850
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:50.000
<v Speaker 1>room that particular time, and there are many more stories,

851
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.719
<v Speaker 1>but that's kind of enough to give you an idea

852
00:49:52.800 --> 00:49:55.519
<v Speaker 1>that I can vouch for, the idea that there's some

853
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:58.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty spooky stuff going on at the Stanley. I have

854
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.239
<v Speaker 1>not been there, Like I said, Samantha has been there

855
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:03.599
<v Speaker 1>more recently than I have, and I have not been

856
00:50:03.639 --> 00:50:09.320
<v Speaker 1>there since this cryogenetic cryogenic museum has been established. But

857
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I did do some research into the history of this

858
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.800
<v Speaker 1>frozen man. For a long time, his family kept him

859
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:19.840
<v Speaker 1>in a freezer in a shed in their yard with

860
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:23.400
<v Speaker 1>dry ice for years years.

861
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:26.079
<v Speaker 2>And it cost them so much money and salt.

862
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. So now they've moved him to the Stanley

863
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Hotel in this silver cryogenetic triogenic tube Samantha has described.

864
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:39.239
<v Speaker 1>But in the town of Estes Park there is a

865
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:40.559
<v Speaker 1>frozen dead Guy's Day.

866
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:44.239
<v Speaker 2>It's a big deal. They have photos of it. You

867
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:47.800
<v Speaker 2>can go. They have all sorts of fun parties. I

868
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:49.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know if I'll find Dub there, but it just

869
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:51.199
<v Speaker 2>looks kind of interesting.

870
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:54.679
<v Speaker 1>You will not find deb there, although I will tell

871
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you I do think the Stanley is is absolutely lovely,

872
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.480
<v Speaker 1>and I enjoyed what Joel and I did there, and

873
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the pictures that we got in the Oh, let me

874
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>go back to this real quick. When I asked j

875
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:07.280
<v Speaker 1>All to take a picture of the window across from

876
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:09.320
<v Speaker 1>the place where we were lifted up off the floor.

877
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:13.760
<v Speaker 1>When the picture came back, but what we saw at

878
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:16.920
<v Speaker 1>that window was just this lovely mountain view. There was

879
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:21.159
<v Speaker 1>this brown gloopy stuff all over the picture. Oh oh,

880
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:22.679
<v Speaker 1>I have the photograph.

881
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know now when you go up the top

882
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:29.039
<v Speaker 2>of the stairs, right in front of you is a

883
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.440
<v Speaker 2>double door and it leads to a seance room and

884
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:37.239
<v Speaker 2>it's decorated like a seance from the age of the Spiritualist.

885
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:40.880
<v Speaker 2>And there is a man there, a magician who performs

886
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:43.960
<v Speaker 2>seances there, and you can get tickets and go.

887
00:51:44.920 --> 00:51:48.199
<v Speaker 1>That's different. That was the bridal Suite when I was

888
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:48.880
<v Speaker 1>last there.

889
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now it's the seance room.

890
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:52.280
<v Speaker 1>How about that.

891
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'll have to send you pictures of it.

892
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:56.280
<v Speaker 2>It was a little creepy.

893
00:51:56.840 --> 00:51:59.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, but it's The hotel is lovely and the grounds

894
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.280
<v Speaker 1>are gorge I know they've built a lot of new

895
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:05.920
<v Speaker 1>buildings and places for staff to stay and so forth.

896
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:09.440
<v Speaker 1>It's different than when I was last there, but it's breathtaking.

897
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, I did feel that there's stuff there, just like

898
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:18.519
<v Speaker 2>the Grove Park. I didn't feel anything negative, did.

899
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:23.400
<v Speaker 1>You, No? I did not. I mean I no, I

900
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:26.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel anything negative. I just very clear that Missus

901
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Stanley was there, we saw her. I do believe that.

902
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:33.480
<v Speaker 1>But I do believe that because of such a history

903
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and such a place, that there are people who really

904
00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:40.880
<v Speaker 1>liked being at the Stanley and they just never really

905
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:44.599
<v Speaker 1>wanted to leave. It's only the Stephen King stuff I

906
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:48.599
<v Speaker 1>think that gives it that creepy, bad scary aspect.

907
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:53.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like the woman who survived that gas explosion that

908
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:57.039
<v Speaker 2>destroyed parts of the hotel and the fire, the family

909
00:52:57.159 --> 00:52:59.559
<v Speaker 2>was very nice and they offered to give her enough

910
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:03.599
<v Speaker 2>money to retire the rest of her life. You know,

911
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:06.480
<v Speaker 2>they paid for her hospital bills, of course, but then

912
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:08.320
<v Speaker 2>they offered to give her money so she wouldn't have

913
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:11.599
<v Speaker 2>to work there anymore. And she turned it down deb

914
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:15.679
<v Speaker 2>because she wanted to keep coming every day to clean

915
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:17.719
<v Speaker 2>rooms and work at the Stanley. That's how much she

916
00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:20.079
<v Speaker 2>loved it. And she worked there till the end of

917
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.480
<v Speaker 2>her life. And it was funny because she lived alone,

918
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.039
<v Speaker 2>and you know, she was old, but she'd been old

919
00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:27.719
<v Speaker 2>for a long long time. And so this guy's at

920
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:30.599
<v Speaker 2>the Stanley working and he sees her coming in and

921
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:34.119
<v Speaker 2>he's like, hey, good morning, and they chat and about

922
00:53:34.119 --> 00:53:37.519
<v Speaker 2>an hour later, some other hotel employees come in and

923
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:39.639
<v Speaker 2>they're all sad, and he's like, what's wrong, And they're like, oh,

924
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:42.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't you hear she died last night? And he's like, no, no,

925
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I just had a whole conversation with her this morning.

926
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.559
<v Speaker 2>So it's like she kept coming to work. So there's

927
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:51.199
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of funnies, interesting fun not out funny,

928
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:53.119
<v Speaker 2>ha ha funny interesting stories about that.

929
00:53:53.960 --> 00:53:56.400
<v Speaker 1>And we have pictures of lots of orbs. Golly, we

930
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:59.599
<v Speaker 1>got tons of orbs and most almost every hallway.

931
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:03.159
<v Speaker 2>We got lots of energy there, but a beautiful hotel

932
00:54:03.199 --> 00:54:05.400
<v Speaker 2>to visit. As are all the ones we discussed.

933
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:10.199
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely they are. I hope everybody's enjoyed this. I we

934
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:11.559
<v Speaker 1>sure had fun putting it together.

935
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we definitely have. And unfortunately we are done with

936
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:19.480
<v Speaker 2>spooky season. I'm sure we'll do another spooky show here

937
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:22.039
<v Speaker 2>or there, but please join us next week when we're

938
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.719
<v Speaker 2>going to discuss six ways to jump start your intuition.

939
00:54:26.519 --> 00:54:30.400
<v Speaker 2>We hope you have a beautiful, spookly fun end to

940
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:33.679
<v Speaker 2>your Halloween season. We'll be back with you next week.

941
00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Remember as always, to be the light for yourself and others.

942
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Take care everyone,
