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<v Speaker 1>See something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Some stars.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, everyone, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>To the NY Patriots Show. Thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 3>tuning in again today. A very interesting topic. We're not

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<v Speaker 3>totally recording it in order, but it will come out

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<v Speaker 3>in or the right.

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<v Speaker 1>Order that's supposed to come out in.

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<v Speaker 3>This actually was something that topic that kind of came

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<v Speaker 3>across us.

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<v Speaker 1>Teresa had brought it up kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>She had sent me something from Instagram that was mentioning

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<v Speaker 3>something about patents, and I was like, wow, this really

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<v Speaker 3>kind of goes with stuff that we've already recorded about

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<v Speaker 3>possibly you never know, probably probably yeah, But I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and to try to say all that in

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<v Speaker 3>one episode one would be very long, and two like

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<v Speaker 3>you'd have to worry about censorship probably no matter where, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm sure some platforms worse than others, and we

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<v Speaker 3>all know.

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<v Speaker 1>What that is.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh, I still thought it was interesting. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, maybe we could just do all these separately.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I had said before, because this is the

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<v Speaker 3>third time now trying to record this, the they'd totally

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<v Speaker 3>different intro as well. Ye As I said in the

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<v Speaker 3>prior to recording that we're not using I do think,

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<v Speaker 3>I will admit, you know, I do believe that these things.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I do believe camptrails exist. I do believe

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<v Speaker 3>that whether modification exists, I do think. I think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of that stuff it does exist. Now do I

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<v Speaker 3>think some people think stuff that isn't real?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I do think there's exaggeration, just like there is

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<v Speaker 3>people who don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know that it's real, you know, on both sides.

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<v Speaker 3>So and the reason why I was actually like really

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<v Speaker 3>interested in doing this is because like we can actually

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<v Speaker 3>show that the conspiracy theorists really aren't that crazy, because yes,

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<v Speaker 3>there is proof of weather modification because there's patents for it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there is proof a messing with stuff in

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<v Speaker 3>the skies because there's patents for it. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>was like, this is a way that we could just

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<v Speaker 3>show that these things exist, maybe who made them, what

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<v Speaker 3>chemicals might be used, and that's it. Not saying it's

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<v Speaker 3>doing that, but weather modification is.

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<v Speaker 1>A real thing. And I don't know why I've never

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<v Speaker 1>thought of like looking up the patents for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so weird because, like like you said, I

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<v Speaker 2>never would have thought to look up the patents for it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was shocked at like how old. Some of

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<v Speaker 2>the patents are.

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<v Speaker 3>Very old, Like, yeah, I think you have just well

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<v Speaker 3>I think because of also where I started. I know

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<v Speaker 3>you have some in the early nineteen hundreds, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think my first one is like eighteen ninety or eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>ninety one or.

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<v Speaker 1>Something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when I saw that, I was just like, yo,

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<v Speaker 3>like weather patent's back then. I mean, that's over one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 3>I would really hope to god they're at least ten

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<v Speaker 3>times more advanced than that by now, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I'm sure. Yeah, And it's interesting that the nature

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<v Speaker 2>of the patents changes over time. I knowed that, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll touch on that a little bit later on, but

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<v Speaker 2>the focus of them seems to change.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but these things are definitely old.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, there was a thing I did want to

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<v Speaker 3>mention because some of our fans, some of the people

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<v Speaker 3>on the Element channel, and we did have Helen actually

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<v Speaker 3>help us with.

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<v Speaker 1>This as well.

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<v Speaker 3>She sent us a few patents from the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's our reporter on the streets.

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<v Speaker 3>I told her we got to get her a little

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<v Speaker 3>inspector cap and she's got to start smoking a pipe

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<v Speaker 3>home yes, trying to get at a crop in like

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<v Speaker 3>in one of Auntry.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yo, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotta crop a hat in and then pipe in your

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<v Speaker 3>mouth in a picture and I'll use it on the

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<v Speaker 3>show and she's like, you're crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But but uh yeah, so we have that.

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<v Speaker 3>And another listener and fan from the Element did send

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<v Speaker 3>me something that I actually find interesting. Not totally pertaining

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<v Speaker 3>to this, but I just find it interesting overall. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>could it just have been, you know, coincidence and just

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<v Speaker 3>a horrible thing that happened, Yeah, I'm sure. Could this

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<v Speaker 3>have also maybe have been done on purpose? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's possible. But there was a patent. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there was the Patent Office in the United States in

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen thirty six December fifteenth, eighteen thirty six, and Jamatri

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<v Speaker 3>people that's forty five hitted together when the US Patent

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<v Speaker 3>Office caught fire. Up until eighteen thirty six, with patents,

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<v Speaker 3>there was no numbers to them. It was basically just

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<v Speaker 3>like I even think the one that I'm the first

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<v Speaker 3>one I'm showing, it's basically just like someone stating something

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<v Speaker 3>and there was two witnesses. It's like no registered number nothing,

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<v Speaker 3>So like technically anything prior to this, there's no proof

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<v Speaker 3>of so you know, I don't you know, could you

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<v Speaker 3>have maybe I knew of a patent and then when

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<v Speaker 3>it went burnt down, Oh that's mine now and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>just rewrite it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so like you know, who knows?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I guess maybe the history of patents to

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<v Speaker 3>begin with could be lost.

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<v Speaker 1>We may not you know know who really.

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<v Speaker 2>Middle intellectual property?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just didn't want to bring that up.

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<v Speaker 3>That in eighteen thirty six there was a fire and

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<v Speaker 3>all of them pretty much prior to that were gone done.

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<v Speaker 1>And then after that is when they.

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<v Speaker 3>Started, like you know, actually giving them run numbers and

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<v Speaker 3>making it a little bit more professional. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it was actually whether modification patents

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<v Speaker 1>That's really old. But you know, if there was, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess there's no proof of it anymore as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't know for sure. And it's funny too. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of the older patents, like the diagrams, like the drawings,

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<v Speaker 2>almost looks like somebody just like drew it on a napkin.

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<v Speaker 1>Patent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here's my idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, some of them, I don't even think I even

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<v Speaker 3>showed the diagrams because it just like a couple of pages.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yeah, they were as much as it would

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<v Speaker 3>literally be as if any of us actually just drew

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like, how does this equate to like the

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<v Speaker 2>actual invention you're talking about? But I'm not the scientist

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<v Speaker 2>or the inventor, so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Yeah, all right, so well I'll get this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get this going. I'll get this putty started.

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<v Speaker 3>In the United States Penn Office, I got Louis Gafman

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<v Speaker 3>of Chicago, Illinois method of producing rainfall specification forming part

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<v Speaker 3>of letters patent number.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna read off this whole.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing, but this was the application was filed in July sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen ninety one, and I ended up going into effect,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess November tenth, eighteen ninety one.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is old eighteen ninety one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>To all whom it may concern.

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<v Speaker 3>Be it known that I, Lewis Gathman, a citizen in

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<v Speaker 3>the United States of America residing at Chicago, in the

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<v Speaker 3>County of Crook and state of Illinois, have invented certain

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<v Speaker 3>new and useful improvements in methods of producing rainfall, of

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<v Speaker 3>which the following is a specification.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll read off a little bit of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to go too much into a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of these patents to certain things that are highlighted that

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<v Speaker 3>you can see on the screen or that I will

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<v Speaker 3>go into some of the things. I'm more looking into

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<v Speaker 3>as if there's chemicals being used, what they're claiming this

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<v Speaker 3>will do, why if it says why, and some of

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<v Speaker 3>those and the ones coming up, I'm just like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>at least you're being honest here. It's like, why don't

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<v Speaker 3>you just say we made this to funck shit up right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so this isn't going to be me reading off,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, twenty pages of a pat Sorry if that's

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<v Speaker 3>what you wanted as well, But I'm sure most listeners

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<v Speaker 3>are happy on that either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, too much. Some of it's it's very technical some

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<v Speaker 2>of it and signs heavy and it's like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand all of this.

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<v Speaker 3>And I, like I said, I think, really just the

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<v Speaker 3>most part, besides maybe showing why and what's being used,

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<v Speaker 3>is really that these things actually exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly just the potential is there.

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<v Speaker 3>Just just knowing that these exist and if these are

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<v Speaker 3>actually like possible, you know, if these patents can actually

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<v Speaker 3>be worked and used.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's saying enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, does it not mean that it did?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? That's the thing too that I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>into with patents.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know, you know, maybe back then

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that I'm showing now, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you actually had to show like, oh look this actually

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<v Speaker 3>I made it happen. It might just be through theoretically

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<v Speaker 3>and science, this should cause that, so this should work,

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<v Speaker 3>you know it could I think something.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would I would imagine they wouldn't grant the

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<v Speaker 2>patent if it didn't work. Or I'm pretty sure that

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<v Speaker 2>it would work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe they want have to go through the time

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<v Speaker 1>of proving that it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's also another thing too. I did want to mention.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of these patents if you start looking, if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to start going down the rabbit hole. I really

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<v Speaker 3>didn't want to turn this into a three hour show,

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<v Speaker 3>but it is very interesting to know though that when

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<v Speaker 3>it starts coming to and some of these things because

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<v Speaker 3>of it dealing with weather, and it can be a

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<v Speaker 3>benefit for agriculture if you're using it for a good way.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they will also go under like the Department of

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<v Speaker 3>Agriculture and then they can get funding from the Department

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<v Speaker 3>of Agriculture. Was technically, you know, for the government. You

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<v Speaker 3>will now start getting funding from the government to make

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<v Speaker 3>these things happen, so you can actually find the depending

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<v Speaker 3>on what your real intentions is of why you're making this,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll have the government paying you to do it as well. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's something I wanted to throw in there that I

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<v Speaker 3>actually thought was very interesting from the same listener and

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<v Speaker 3>a fan that sent me the thing about the eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>thirty six fire also started digging into that and started

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<v Speaker 3>finding about a lot of stuff with this, and I

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<v Speaker 3>blame me. I appreciate it totally and I'm totally, like,

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<v Speaker 3>very interested in it, but I was like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>just too much to add to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>they mentioned does. So with that said, let me continue.

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<v Speaker 3>So Lewis Gathman. My invention relates to a method of

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<v Speaker 3>and after, fully described and specifically claimed, which when combined,

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<v Speaker 3>served to accomplish the above named result. My method is

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<v Speaker 3>going by this, this guy will somehow create basically a

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<v Speaker 3>ninety one. The bottom it shows, you know, Lewis Gathman.

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<v Speaker 3>Now back then, I don't know if this was a

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<v Speaker 1>You have witnesses. I don't know how that works either.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you can pick your own witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>But you know who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how the exact witness stuff works, but

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<v Speaker 1>And Harry C. Kennedy Vieah Kennedy again real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Lewis Gathman just wanted to mention him. Real Fast was

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<v Speaker 3>Lewis Gafmine was an engineer and inventor who held numerous patents.

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<v Speaker 1>In many different fields.

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<v Speaker 3>In the eighteen eighties, Gatman built three astronomical observatories in

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<v Speaker 3>based on his research.

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<v Speaker 1>And weather modification.

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<v Speaker 3>oh one and the gasmine Gun, an eighteen inch gun

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<v Speaker 3>the large charges of high explosives at water level.

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<v Speaker 2>The gun was.

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<v Speaker 3>Tested at the government proving ground at Sandy Hook, but

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<v Speaker 3>was rejected by the US military. Nineteen sixteen, Gathman invented

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<v Speaker 3>a new type of battleship armor based on the use

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<v Speaker 1>And shock absorbers. So, I mean he's done some.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff interesting man, Yes, And he died.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen seventeen. And here we have.

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<v Speaker 3>I mentioned before one of the witnesses was William H. Lutz,

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<v Speaker 3>and we have I found couldn't find really much about

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<v Speaker 3>him at all, but I was able to find his gravestone.

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<v Speaker 3>And this matches, you know the time that even for

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<v Speaker 3>the patent to be around and they're right on his gravestone.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a gigantic uh Masonic symbol.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the square and compass with the G in it.

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<v Speaker 2>How appropriate?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it's very convenient that a witness was a Freemason.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously they just.

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<v Speaker 1>Liked that design. Maybe maybe the wife got it for maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>She outlived him and she thought he was cute put

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<v Speaker 3>it on there by accident, or maybe he was a Mason.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if, like a lot of inventors would have

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I was going to try to go down

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<v Speaker 3>that rabbit hole, especially after I found this, But again,

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<v Speaker 3>it's really more of like I really just wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>show that these things do exist.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, we could go in a million directs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like, you know, I'm already I'm already beyond

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that it exists. It's like, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 3>like when people like, well, who really formed the OTO?

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<v Speaker 3>I I'm sure every story told to us is fabricated,

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<v Speaker 3>but it exists. Yes, So you can spend ten years

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<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out who started it and forget that

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<v Speaker 3>it exists.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like you'll never know magic because you're too worried

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out who started the Freemasons with the GOTO.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we've got William H.

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<v Speaker 3>Lotts April fourth, eighteen eighty to September nineteenth nineteen fifty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>probably the same guy who witnessed this paton with that

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<v Speaker 3>g and compass in square on his tombstone. Next one,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to go into United States Patent Office Paul

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<v Speaker 3>wife Weiss of Paris and Jules Verdier of Hind, France,

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<v Speaker 3>which I thought was weird there from another country process

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<v Speaker 3>and apparatus for the production of intense artificial clouds fogs

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<v Speaker 3>or mists. I had to definitely include this one because

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<v Speaker 3>of the reasoning of the second episode that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>Real quick, I'll go into it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is patent patented April twenty seventh, nineteen twenty. I

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<v Speaker 3>will add, though it wasn't oh wow, same year that

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<v Speaker 3>what's his face died December tenth, nineteen seventeen. This was

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<v Speaker 3>the application was filed, so it actually took almost ten

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<v Speaker 3>years to to get it patented. Yeah, to whom it

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<v Speaker 3>may concern being known that we pull Weiss engineer of

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<v Speaker 3>seventy I think that might be seventy eighth Avenue, Henry

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<v Speaker 3>Martin at Paris Department of the Scene in France and

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<v Speaker 3>Jules Videre of Vadier.

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<v Speaker 1>However, you say that.

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<v Speaker 3>Engineer of seven rue Villa Boise, I'm messing up to

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere in France, Citizens of the French. Why is French

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<v Speaker 3>people patenting here? Of the French Republic have invented certain

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<v Speaker 3>new and useful improvements in process? Maybe that's what it

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<v Speaker 3>was through this could have been possibly That's another thing

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<v Speaker 3>I want to add. Some of these patents are kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like adding to old ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I say, sorry to interrupt you, but I actually

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<v Speaker 2>have notes on the same patent from lower So we

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<v Speaker 2>had like a list that we went through because I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was probably an improvement on the previous patent update.

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<v Speaker 1>Even Inspector Helen pointed that out to me.

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<v Speaker 3>With the UK ones, She said that a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>those were I think either kind of like going back

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<v Speaker 3>to hours or they were like add ons to theirs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I noticed too a lot of them they

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<v Speaker 2>have filings in different countries. So and this is not

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<v Speaker 2>surprising that like this happens to be invented by two

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<v Speaker 2>French people, but this is the American filing of the patent,

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<v Speaker 2>because some of them have I noticed had like Great Britain, Denmark, Canada, US,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're in all different all different countries.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sorry, continue right, apparatus for the production of intense

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<v Speaker 3>artificial clouds, fogs or mists, and do hereby declare the

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<v Speaker 3>following to be a full, clear and exact description of

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<v Speaker 3>the invention, such as will enables others skilled in the

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<v Speaker 3>art to which it appertains to make and use the same. Basically,

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<v Speaker 3>it's saying that this is what this is for the

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<v Speaker 3>present invention renders it possible to produce very opaque artificial

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<v Speaker 3>mists by affecting the atomization of anhydris chlorids such as

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<v Speaker 3>titanium chlorid or static chlorid or analogous or analogious bodies

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<v Speaker 3>in a moist a monocle atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny. I literally wrote that exact thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh see, and I made sure that I I highlighted that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at the bottom of the show, pollwise Jules

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<v Speaker 1>Verdeer witnesses chas p Presley and Alexander bash Hole.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah maybe it sounds man so yeah, all right, So

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<v Speaker 3>it mentions an hydrogenis an hydris chlorids, titanium chlorids, danta chlorid,

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<v Speaker 3>and I mentioned chas Pea Presley and hydrous HCl response

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<v Speaker 3>and hydrous hydrogen chlorid is a CI mission chemical and

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<v Speaker 3>like chlorine, is a toxic inhalation hazard awesome. CI's mission

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<v Speaker 3>related to HC eight. CI's mission related to a h

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<v Speaker 3>CL is limited to distribution in use.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is saying that it is toxic.

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<v Speaker 3>When you go and look up static chloride, it says

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<v Speaker 3>toxic inhalation, ingestion, or skin contact with material may cause

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<v Speaker 3>severe injury or death.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to add I do not know the dosages, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the patent whatever, but just showing.

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<v Speaker 3>You and something I also found interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The process of manufacturing chlorobenzene.

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<v Speaker 3>The witness for that was JP Presley as well, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just wanted to throw that in there. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was interesting. And chlorobenzene.

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<v Speaker 3>Is an aromatic organic compound and chemical formula blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>Chloro Benzene was once was used in manufacture of pesticides,

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<v Speaker 3>most notably DDT. If anybody knows anything about DDT, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to say any more about that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know anything about DDT, you look it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, year was that pattern that was the nineteen seventeen one.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Oh, that's this patent.

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<v Speaker 3>Nineteen sixteen, because the chemical was made prior to the patent.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So the patent for that chemical came out in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>And Chas P.

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<v Speaker 3>Presley was a witness to that, and he was a

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<v Speaker 3>witness to the other weather modification pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>I just showed you that had something that can be toxic.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, like I said, I don't know if it's being

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<v Speaker 3>used toxic with that patent, but yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm getting at.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely on to the next one, the Rainmaker. Some reason

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<v Speaker 1>is that like a I feel like that's a book.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a legal book or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh maybe yeah, like a Tom Cruise movie or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Or John Christiaan novel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I was thinking of a Christian novel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeahs I read it. It's funny how many people start

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<v Speaker 3>reading war books after they get locked up in prison,

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<v Speaker 3>and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was one of them too. But I was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, why are we reading this while we're

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<v Speaker 1>locked up?

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<v Speaker 3>I need to be reminded about the quits system anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess when you're in jail you want to read

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<v Speaker 3>about other motherfuckers getting locked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he got it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not alone, even.

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<v Speaker 1>Though it is just a book.

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<v Speaker 3>The United States Patton Office, James M. Quadre of Los Angeles, California.

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<v Speaker 1>The rain Rainmaker. This was Oh wow, see I must

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<v Speaker 1>have went out of order. This actually came out prior

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<v Speaker 1>to the other one. This was Paton did July fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fourteen, and the application filed it was August six,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirteen. Be it known that I, James R.

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<v Speaker 3>Cordre, citizen of the United States, residing at Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 3>in the County of Los Angeles, in state of California,

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<v Speaker 3>have invented certain new and useful improvements in rain makers,

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<v Speaker 3>of which the following is a specification. My invention relates

436
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<v Speaker 3>to methods of and apparatus for producing rain, and the

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<v Speaker 3>object of my invention is to provide a method which

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<v Speaker 3>may be employed in those sections of the world where

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<v Speaker 3>rainfalls occur at widely separated periodic intervals to produce rain

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<v Speaker 3>during what is ordinarly ordinarily known as a dry season.

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<v Speaker 1>So they are saying that in this.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when some of the ones that I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to go into, it will also specify Yeah, that you

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<v Speaker 3>know this stuff can Like this is saying, you know,

445
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<v Speaker 3>we could use this for places where there's dry crops,

446
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<v Speaker 3>you know, when.

447
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<v Speaker 1>You need rain. You know we could do this to

448
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<v Speaker 1>help keep the crops going.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of them will actually even tell you it may

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<v Speaker 3>not be used for such a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this one so far is also.

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<v Speaker 3>But one thing I did want to include is some

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<v Speaker 3>of the stuff that's used in this one in the

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<v Speaker 3>drawings which I'm not showing. Figure one illustrates a tethered

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<v Speaker 3>balloon employed in testing the conditions of the atmosphere to determine.

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<v Speaker 1>The exact method or treatment to pursue.

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<v Speaker 3>Figure two illustrates one of a number of balloons employed

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<v Speaker 3>in raising powder and chloride of potash and exploding the

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<v Speaker 3>powder and so scattering the potash. Figure three illustrates one

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<v Speaker 3>of a number of balloons employed in raising powder and water,

461
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<v Speaker 3>the powder being exploded to scatter the water.

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<v Speaker 1>Figure four illustrates one even.

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<v Speaker 3>This one blows my mind, one of a number of

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<v Speaker 3>balloons to be employed in raising a tank containing sulfuric

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<v Speaker 3>acid and crushed bone, the bone and acid being intended

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<v Speaker 3>as a steady means for generating nitrogen.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, all okay then.

468
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<v Speaker 3>Man, okay, James m Quadre, you go with your bets.

469
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<v Speaker 2>This vision of like this mad scientist just like combining

470
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<v Speaker 2>like all these beakers like boom, Yes, like I got

471
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<v Speaker 2>something here. She was like, oh man, this is I

472
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<v Speaker 2>don't even think of that.

473
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<v Speaker 3>This is that moment when I was talking about before

474
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<v Speaker 3>and I don't know what intro was in it.

475
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<v Speaker 1>May not even have mentioned it in this show. Uh

476
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<v Speaker 1>just tried so many times.

477
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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, right, you know this is that point where

478
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<v Speaker 3>it's like, is this where the theory is d comes

479
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<v Speaker 3>into plane? Is it like the scientist is like thinking

480
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<v Speaker 3>in his head like all right, bones have something in

481
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<v Speaker 3>them that, once mixed.

482
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<v Speaker 1>With what this chemical compound is, you should get this.

483
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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm hoping that's what this is, but I'm sure

484
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<v Speaker 1>it probably is. Yeah, I hope it's probably been tested

485
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<v Speaker 1>and proven.

486
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<v Speaker 3>But maybe this is one of those things where it's

487
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<v Speaker 3>just you know, in theory.

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<v Speaker 2>To be tested on a small scale and then just

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<v Speaker 2>theorize on a larger scale. We hope.

490
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

491
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<v Speaker 2>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, Then another one I have.

493
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<v Speaker 3>I just honestly I think that that thing saying that

494
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<v Speaker 3>it can produce clouds terrain, I mean that's proof right

495
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<v Speaker 3>there that can manipulate weather, and I just thought the

496
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<v Speaker 3>sopheric acid and bones was was enough.

497
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<v Speaker 1>So I'm moving on from that.

498
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<v Speaker 3>One United States Patent Office process for controlling whether Harvey M.

499
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<v Speaker 3>Brandall Wilton a signer to WC Inc, a corporation of Delaware.

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<v Speaker 3>That is another thing too, and it was kind of

501
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<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to go too crazy down that rabbit

502
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<v Speaker 3>hole WC Inc. If you start looking into what they're

503
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<v Speaker 3>into that company, that could be almost another conspiracy theory

504
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<v Speaker 3>in itself. People looking to look into that, you know,

505
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<v Speaker 3>I highly suggest it look into other patents they've done, people.

506
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<v Speaker 1>And stuff that have been associated with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, that was even something that was brought to my

508
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<v Speaker 3>attention from the same person went to eighteen thirty six.

509
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<v Speaker 3>They started looking into some patents and came across that

510
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<v Speaker 3>company and found some of the interesting stuff. I did

511
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<v Speaker 3>so I was not going to drag this out. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>This invention relates to a process affecting changes in weather conditions,

513
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<v Speaker 3>more specifically, the process for dissipating clouds and clouds and

514
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<v Speaker 3>fog by clearing the atmosphere of moisture particles.

515
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<v Speaker 1>That are large enough to be visible and yet not large.

516
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<v Speaker 3>Enough to fall out of suspension in the gases of

517
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<v Speaker 3>the atmosphere. Specifically, an object of this intention is to

518
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<v Speaker 3>maintain contact weather conditions at airports, air traffic zones and centers,

519
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<v Speaker 3>and on airways by reducing economic reducing the amount.

520
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<v Speaker 1>Of visible water vapor blah blah blah.

521
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<v Speaker 3>Another object object of this invention is to control weather,

522
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<v Speaker 3>which causes hail damage, lightning, and interferences with wave transmissions

523
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<v Speaker 3>by the reduction of visible water vapor through the dissipation

524
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<v Speaker 3>of clouds. Another object of this invention is the control

525
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<v Speaker 3>of weather by dissipating typhoons, hurricanes, and other storm centers

526
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<v Speaker 3>by the dissipation of the convective clouds forming the weather.

527
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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>It goes on to even mention that is to control

529
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<v Speaker 3>weather through snow and sleep and the control of weather

530
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<v Speaker 3>causing snow in sleep in heavily populated areas where large

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<v Speaker 3>quantities are particularly undesirable because of its effect on traffic conditions.

532
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<v Speaker 3>So I guess if somebody wants to control traffic instead

533
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<v Speaker 3>of closing down bridges, Like who was that guy, that

534
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:50.799
<v Speaker 3>fat Republican that was running with Trump? Oh? Yes, yeah,

535
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:52.640
<v Speaker 3>he killed just close down bridges.

536
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<v Speaker 1>I guess we can just cause snow inhale in sleep.

537
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<v Speaker 2>Where was this invention for the snow and buffalo recently? Right?

538
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<v Speaker 3>Another object of the present invention is the process of

539
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<v Speaker 3>dissipating weather frontal systems which cause floods to continuous rains.

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<v Speaker 3>And another object of the present invention is to provide

541
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<v Speaker 3>rain in designated areas by use of my weather control process.

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<v Speaker 3>It even said to help provide desirable weather for sport events.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So back then in nineteen forty eight, I guess they're

545
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<v Speaker 3>already realizing that, you know, weather could be a problem

546
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<v Speaker 3>for making money in sporting events.

547
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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if Super Bowl was already around.

548
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<v Speaker 3>But I did find that interesting that it even did

549
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<v Speaker 3>say that part of this is to control the weather

550
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<v Speaker 3>and causing snow and sleet and heavily populated areas where

551
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<v Speaker 3>it's particularly undesirable.

552
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

553
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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, that's the process for controlling weather. US's United

554
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<v Speaker 3>States Patent Office nineteen forty eight eight to seventh.

555
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<v Speaker 1>I have another one here.

556
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<v Speaker 3>United States Patent Office Generation of Electrical Fields. Some of

557
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<v Speaker 3>these are gonna be a little bit shorter with I

558
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<v Speaker 3>just find it interesting that they're playing with electricity in

559
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<v Speaker 3>the skies application May fifteenth, nineteen fifty six. This invention

560
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<v Speaker 3>relates to the conversion of mechanical engine energy into electrical energy,

561
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<v Speaker 3>and more particularly to a regenerative system for charging bodies

562
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<v Speaker 3>or clouds. So back in nineteen fifty nine, was patented

563
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<v Speaker 3>in April seventh.

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<v Speaker 1>By then, they seems to me that.

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<v Speaker 3>They understood shooting electricity up into the clouds is going

566
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<v Speaker 3>to make a change or up into the skies. Yeah,

567
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<v Speaker 3>so I think that's like the reason I'm bringing that

568
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<v Speaker 3>up is because I think that might be a little

569
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<v Speaker 3>bit more high tech for that time than people.

570
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

571
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were actually.

572
00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Doing that by then, and like knew that that would

573
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<v Speaker 3>change stuff. But uh yeah, I'm not going to really

574
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<v Speaker 3>go into that one too much.

575
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<v Speaker 1>The uh, the one thing though, why do I.

576
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<v Speaker 3>Bernard Vonnaguet, I wanted to mention was the one who

577
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<v Speaker 3>did this. Maybe some people might think that Vonnegut sounds familiar.

578
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<v Speaker 3>Bernard Vonnegut was an American atmospheric scientist credited with discovering

579
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<v Speaker 3>the silver iodide or iodide could be used effectively in

580
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<v Speaker 3>cloud seating to produce snow and rain. He was the

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<v Speaker 3>older brother of American novelist Kurt Vonnegut.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so, yeah, my name is And.

583
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<v Speaker 3>Of course he started work in nineteen forty five at

584
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<v Speaker 3>the General Electric Research Laboratory in Scheductity, New York.

585
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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't leave New York out of this.

586
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Got to be in there somewhere.

587
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:08.559
<v Speaker 1>God, I always have to have some weird thing coming from.

588
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<v Speaker 2>Is that upstate?

589
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

590
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:13.000
<v Speaker 2>That's yeah, that's going on is upstate? Everything weird is

591
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<v Speaker 2>upstate New York.

592
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, only you have the Son of Sam was kind

593
00:34:17.039 --> 00:34:18.800
<v Speaker 3>of like on the verge of going upstate.

594
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it.

595
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:25.079
<v Speaker 3>Probably like fifteen twenty minutes closer, he would have actually

596
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:30.599
<v Speaker 3>probably been considered like in the Five Boroughs, but next

597
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<v Speaker 3>one and now I am covering covering some of the

598
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:41.199
<v Speaker 3>stuff from the UK. There's a UK patent application and

599
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<v Speaker 3>the date of that is data filing December third, twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 3>date lodged UH September one, twenty twelve. The applicants is

601
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<v Speaker 3>Davidson Technology Limited, and the inventors are Peter Davidson, Hugh

602
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:08.280
<v Speaker 3>Edmund Murray Hunt and Christopher John Burgoyne. And the title

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<v Speaker 3>of the invention Atmospheric Delivery System abstract title Method of

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<v Speaker 3>Transporting Solid Particles having a refractive index greater than one

605
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<v Speaker 3>point four.

606
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<v Speaker 1>Into the atmosphere.

607
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<v Speaker 3>So basically this thing pretty much is like a patent

608
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<v Speaker 3>to like, I think, like drop stuff, And the present

609
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:36.719
<v Speaker 3>invention relates to a method for transporting and dispersing particles

610
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<v Speaker 3>into the Earth at Earth's stratosphere.

611
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<v Speaker 2>I think it's from ground particles.

612
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<v Speaker 3>Up, particularly to achieve a global or local cooling effect.

613
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<v Speaker 3>That's the main thing behind that summary of the invention. Thus,

614
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 3>the invention relates to a method of transporting transporting solid

615
00:35:56.039 --> 00:35:59.360
<v Speaker 3>particles having again the refractive index are greater than one

616
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:04.079
<v Speaker 3>point four the atmosphere. The method comprising transporting the particles

617
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<v Speaker 3>via a conduit from a substantially ground level location to

618
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<v Speaker 3>an elevated location and dispersing the particles into the atmosphere

619
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<v Speaker 3>just like you said, uh, by transporting particles through a conduit,

620
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:20.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, saying thing all over again. The lifetime of

621
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:24.079
<v Speaker 3>such a cloud is largely determined by the rate of

622
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<v Speaker 3>depletion of particles.

623
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<v Speaker 1>From the cloud. So just edded that in there.

624
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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. I think I had that one also, maybe as

625
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:38.360
<v Speaker 2>like an update, because I think mine was from two

626
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:40.679
<v Speaker 2>thousand and nine. What did you say yours was?

627
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Was the same, and it does use it does mention

628
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<v Speaker 3>titanium dioxide.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was gonna say that the carrier fluid that

630
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:53.320
<v Speaker 2>they used to like transport the particles up into the

631
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<v Speaker 2>atmosphere was titanium dioxide, sodium chloride, and silicon.

632
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the only thing I think I did look those

633
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 3>all up to the only thing that I found.

634
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:10.199
<v Speaker 1>Worth mentioning. I don't even think it was like anything horrible.

635
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:14.039
<v Speaker 3>Sunscreen and UV blocking pigments and cosmetic and skin care products.

636
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Titanium dioxide is used as a pigment sunscreen and as

637
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 3>a pigment sunscreen and a thickener. So titanium dioxide is

638
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:29.559
<v Speaker 3>even used in sunscreen. So then there's another patent UK

639
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<v Speaker 3>patent that is the data filing was fifteen four, two

640
00:37:35.639 --> 00:37:38.719
<v Speaker 3>thousand and eight, so I gues say April fifteen, two

641
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<v Speaker 3>thousand and eight. This one was by ser LLC And

642
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<v Speaker 3>this is a high altitude atmospheric alteration system and method.

643
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<v Speaker 1>The description here in generally.

644
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<v Speaker 3>Relates to the field of high altitude conduits and high

645
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<v Speaker 3>altitude structures capable of many applications including affecting changes.

646
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<v Speaker 1>In the app atmosphere.

647
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<v Speaker 2>So interesting.

648
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, uh, I did look up that Serit LLC.

649
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<v Speaker 2>That was the company that did this, and what is

650
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<v Speaker 2>that about?

651
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>They?

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00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:15.800
<v Speaker 3>I looked up their patents because it was it was

653
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<v Speaker 3>easy to find the patents that they've done.

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<v Speaker 1>Then to find out really what else they do?

655
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:25.719
<v Speaker 3>System and method for nuclear fission reactor materials who Systems

656
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<v Speaker 3>and Methods for brokering data products.

657
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 1>And if somebody is like, what's.

658
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<v Speaker 3>Brokering data products, it's exactly what it sounds like. It's

659
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<v Speaker 3>selling your information to people that harass you with phone

660
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:41.920
<v Speaker 3>goals and emails. Systems and Methods for brokering data products.

661
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<v Speaker 2>So they dabble in nuclear and data selling.

662
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Great compensation determination and data brokering arrangements.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess need to decide how much it's worth.

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<v Speaker 3>Two system and Methods for monitoring data brokering arrangements. Subject

665
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<v Speaker 3>material in delivery device. A method may include placing a

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<v Speaker 3>first device on a first side of a skin portion.

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00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:12.360
<v Speaker 3>You already know where I'm going with that, So dermals

668
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:13.599
<v Speaker 3>putting something on your skin.

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<v Speaker 1>And it absorbs it.

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<v Speaker 3>Device System and method for controllably reducing inflammatory mediators in

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<v Speaker 3>a subject. System and Methods for obtaining analytes from a body.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is this is done through through the dermal layer.

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<v Speaker 3>And receiving the ejection, and you know, the whatever it's

674
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<v Speaker 3>being ejected from the skin, it can do that too.

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<v Speaker 3>So being able to read stuff coming out of your

676
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<v Speaker 3>skin and being able to put stuff into your skin.

677
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<v Speaker 3>One of the people that was on that that last

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<v Speaker 3>one that I did, Nathan merveled Rhu, formally chief Technology

679
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<v Speaker 3>officer at Microsoft, is co founder of Intellectual Ventures and

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<v Speaker 3>the principal author of Modernist Cuisine.

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<v Speaker 1>So but basically this guy, I mean, he's at Microsoft.

682
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<v Speaker 1>I just found that interesting too.

683
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<v Speaker 3>Your Microsoft is involved, Your guy who's involved with Microsoft

684
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<v Speaker 3>is involved with these patents.

685
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<v Speaker 2>Surprising.

686
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<v Speaker 3>Lowell Wood is an American astrophysicist who has been involved

687
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<v Speaker 3>with the Strategic Defensive Initiative and with geoengineering studies. He

688
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<v Speaker 3>has been affiliated with Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Hoover

689
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<v Speaker 3>Institution and chaired the EMP Commission.

690
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<v Speaker 1>There's just another person that I thought was rather interesting with.

691
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<v Speaker 3>His connections, and he is a prolific inventor enlisted on

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<v Speaker 3>one thousand, seven hundred and sixty one US patents as

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<v Speaker 3>of August twenty first, two thousand and eighteen would passed

694
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<v Speaker 3>Thomas Edison on June thirtieth in twenty fifteen, becoming the

695
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<v Speaker 3>old time most prolific inventor from the United States based

696
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<v Speaker 3>on the u of the issued US utility patents. So

697
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<v Speaker 3>in the United States, this guy has the most patents

698
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<v Speaker 3>as well.

699
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.719
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy political work.

700
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:29.800
<v Speaker 1>He's worked with global think tanks are global warming.

701
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<v Speaker 2>Of course? Yes?

702
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Lowell Elwood University of California, Physicist Member and Director's Technical Staff.

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<v Speaker 3>Lowell Wood, PhD is an astrophysicist at the Lawrence Livermore

705
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<v Speaker 3>National Laboratory. His research contributed to the international effort to

706
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<v Speaker 3>achieve controlled themo nuclear fusion through the use of lasers

707
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<v Speaker 3>He's developed, he's collaborated on development of X rayles.

708
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<v Speaker 1>So this guy's Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>He's best known for his role in design and development

710
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<v Speaker 3>in early stage testing of space based defenses against ballistic

711
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:12.039
<v Speaker 3>missiles attack.

712
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.400
<v Speaker 1>His concept cold Brilliant.

713
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<v Speaker 3>Pebbles was adopted by the Pentagon as the most technically act.

714
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Of missile defense proposals. Wow, yeah, you can look that up.

715
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 3>He's he's come up with that. It almost reminded me

716
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<v Speaker 3>like that shift from fucking Iron Man.

717
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, in all this talk of like nuclear fission

718
00:42:34.679 --> 00:42:37.840
<v Speaker 2>is reminded me of the series Dark, which I know

719
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:43.159
<v Speaker 2>our listener Eliza will Lisa Sorry, she'll appreciate that because

720
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 2>he and I talk about that show all the time.

721
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<v Speaker 3>Patents by inventor Christopher John Burgoyne Atmospheric Delivery System, high

722
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:58.480
<v Speaker 3>altitude Platform, high altitude Platform, high altitude platform, another high

723
00:42:58.519 --> 00:43:02.719
<v Speaker 3>altitude platform, atmospheric delivery system.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was just showing those guys. They all I

725
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.679
<v Speaker 1>thought they were all kind of interesting people too. Behind

726
00:43:08.719 --> 00:43:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that pat Mary, I couldn't find much on that company,

727
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:15.320
<v Speaker 1>and that is the end of whatever I.

728
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Had to cover on patents, And now we have whatever

729
00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:20.679
<v Speaker 3>Teresa looked into because we kind of we kind of

730
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:22.639
<v Speaker 3>came up with a bunch of patents and just split

731
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<v Speaker 3>them up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, no, on to yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's very interesting, thank you. Actually, it's funny because

734
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.760
<v Speaker 2>two of them that you covered irs.

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<v Speaker 1>On may have happened with further ones.

736
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<v Speaker 3>When I started noticing them refer back to other ones,

737
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.519
<v Speaker 3>I was like, she may end up getting stuck with

738
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:45.480
<v Speaker 3>ones that refer back to me.

739
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think it just speaks to the relevance

740
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<v Speaker 2>of them because we probably both picked them out based

741
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.920
<v Speaker 2>on the titles, being like, oh, that seems like it

742
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 2>would be relevant to the other things that we're going

743
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.400
<v Speaker 2>to talk about in the other episodes, right, So okay,

744
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:02.239
<v Speaker 2>so I have notes on a few that kind of

745
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:07.079
<v Speaker 2>stood out to me. So the first one is a

746
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:12.360
<v Speaker 2>patent for a method for dispersing natural atmospheric fogs and clouds.

747
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:17.199
<v Speaker 2>So again going back to the fogs. The inventor is

748
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:21.159
<v Speaker 2>Roger T. Stone, who I could not find much information

749
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<v Speaker 2>on because Rogerstone. Yeah, so everything that comes up is about,

750
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:31.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, the more modern Roger Stone, like, h yeah,

751
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're the same person. So this patent

752
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:39.719
<v Speaker 2>was filed October thirteenth, nineteen fifty nine, and was filed

753
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<v Speaker 2>by Finn Case. I don't know how you say, the

754
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Copnam Industry Tribby Limited, I don't know, in San Jose,

755
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Costa Rica. So I do think though it's an American patent.

756
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:57.840
<v Speaker 2>So basically, what it's about is dissolving alcohols into liquids

757
00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:01.039
<v Speaker 2>so that they can maintain their liquids state under pressure

758
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:04.760
<v Speaker 2>in a sealed container, and then they would disperse the

759
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:10.159
<v Speaker 2>alcohol solution with the propellant into the air. So this

760
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<v Speaker 2>is unlike the two more common methods of dispersing or

761
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<v Speaker 2>cloud seating. So in this method, it's like the powder

762
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.039
<v Speaker 2>and the liquid is in two separate containers and then

763
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.760
<v Speaker 2>it gets shot out of the plane and it combines

764
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:29.000
<v Speaker 2>in the air, whereas before they would combine the powder

765
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:32.280
<v Speaker 2>and the liquid on the ground and then this cuts

766
00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:34.519
<v Speaker 2>out like that whole labor process and then load that

767
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.480
<v Speaker 2>into the plane. So they just load the two separate things,

768
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>the plane flies and it combines in the atmosphere basically.

769
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<v Speaker 2>So the two other more common methods of cloud seating

770
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<v Speaker 2>was solid carbon dioxide or silver iodide. But the pro

771
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.360
<v Speaker 2>of using this method with an alcohol solution is that

772
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:59.719
<v Speaker 2>it could be done at warmer temperatures and lower heights

773
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:03.800
<v Speaker 2>in the atmosphere because apparently for the silver iodide method

774
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:06.079
<v Speaker 2>and carbon dioxide method you have to be much higher

775
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:07.960
<v Speaker 2>up because you need a cold temperature.

776
00:46:08.119 --> 00:46:11.079
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha okay, yes.

777
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:17.960
<v Speaker 2>So this massive water droplets method includes alcohols like syl alcohol,

778
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:25.239
<v Speaker 2>methyl propyl isoml tertiary beautile alcohols in a dispersed form,

779
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:28.719
<v Speaker 2>so obviously highly chemical.

780
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Shit, right, What was that againeen fifty nine?

781
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 2>You said, yes, it was filed in fifty nine.

782
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>What was the exact reasoning? What was it cold again?

783
00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

784
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Uh So the title of the pattern is method for

785
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:49.320
<v Speaker 2>dispersing natural atmosphere fogs and clouds. Yeah, so basically cloud seating.

786
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so you know that's old the ship in nineteen

787
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:55.199
<v Speaker 1>fifty nine still.

788
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<v Speaker 2>To me, right, yeah, it is, so, you know.

789
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Imagine, and that's like a movement on something they've been doing.

790
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:06.599
<v Speaker 2>Already, right, yeah, exactly. So the next one that I

791
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:11.960
<v Speaker 2>had was a patent from October thirteenth, nineteen fifty eight,

792
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.599
<v Speaker 2>and it was approved in sixty one. The inventor is

793
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:21.079
<v Speaker 2>Louis d Utin, and it's a patent for insecticide dusting,

794
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:25.280
<v Speaker 2>a device that would be attached to a plane. So

795
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:30.239
<v Speaker 2>just showing that you know how insecticide dusting works. So

796
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:35.360
<v Speaker 2>this invention also would eliminate the labor process of combining

797
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.039
<v Speaker 2>the powder and the liquid on the ground. It also

798
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:42.079
<v Speaker 2>combines it in the air being projected out of a

799
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<v Speaker 2>plane at low level flight.

800
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<v Speaker 1>That's right. I was going to mention that before.

801
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:47.960
<v Speaker 3>I've been like, why didn't they actually combine it the

802
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:48.719
<v Speaker 3>first time too?

803
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, yeah, I guess let's just get it going first.

804
00:47:54.519 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Apparently, So when I was reading some of the details

805
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.159
<v Speaker 2>of the patents. Apparently when they combine it on the

806
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:03.119
<v Speaker 2>ground first and then fly with the made solution, it

807
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:07.719
<v Speaker 2>can clog the pipes or ducks or whatever they used

808
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.599
<v Speaker 2>to like project it out of the plane. So apparently

809
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:17.400
<v Speaker 2>pumping them out separately is better. Gotcha to interesting, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's just a quick one on that. I just found

811
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<v Speaker 2>it interesting with like insecticide use all the way back

812
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<v Speaker 2>to like nineteen sixty one, and then like does that

813
00:48:26.440 --> 00:48:29.239
<v Speaker 2>relate to DDT and like polio outbreak.

814
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:34.199
<v Speaker 3>Is I mean it's I mean, that's even another thing. Honestly,

815
00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:39.199
<v Speaker 3>even going back a while ago, probably within our lifetime,

816
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:43.239
<v Speaker 3>there has been stuff that was considered okay and now it.

817
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Is like you can't use it totally right now?

818
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:48.159
<v Speaker 1>How much it was being used in the past and

819
00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>for what?

820
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, like now, you know, I think a big

821
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<v Speaker 2>concern is quite estate, which is basically the same chemical

822
00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:57.760
<v Speaker 2>as round up, like the weed killer, and they spray

823
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.239
<v Speaker 2>that shit on everything. So it's like, are these like

824
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:04.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, influx of allergies, skin conditions.

825
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 3>It's like almost every thirty or forty years it's like, oh,

826
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<v Speaker 3>this other pesticide is no good.

827
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<v Speaker 2>Now, right, let's try this one.

828
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<v Speaker 1>Oh yea, let's make this one years later. Oh that

829
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<v Speaker 1>one was no good now too? Next?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well interesting me. I also watched a little bit

831
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:21.599
<v Speaker 2>of the Frankensky's documentary which is all about chemtrails and

832
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:29.239
<v Speaker 2>you know the company Monsanto, Right, so they have developed

833
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:35.920
<v Speaker 2>like seeds for aluminum resistant crops, so everyone else's crops

834
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:39.960
<v Speaker 2>won't grow as well, but there's will remain unaffected by

835
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:44.480
<v Speaker 2>all these pollutants and chemicals in the atmosphere. So it

836
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<v Speaker 2>just went an application of this technology, right, another one

837
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:54.480
<v Speaker 2>that it had as a patent from nineteen sixty four.

838
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<v Speaker 2>The inventor's name is Stuart L. Seaton, and it's a

839
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<v Speaker 2>means for communicating through a layer of ionized gas. And

840
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<v Speaker 2>this stuff I find really interesting because there's a couple

841
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<v Speaker 2>patents like this that I found, And Okay, it's a

842
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<v Speaker 2>little bit complex, so I'm just gonna read what I wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>So this invention relates to the modulation of electromagnetic waves

844
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<v Speaker 2>and commuting through communicating through a layer of ionized gases.

845
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<v Speaker 2>So when space vehicles are traveling at hypersonic speed, which

846
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<v Speaker 2>is mock ten or higher and enter or leave the

847
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<v Speaker 2>planetary atmosphere, vehicle becomes surrounded by a layer of plasma

848
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<v Speaker 2>that blocks or obstructs electromagnetic wave communication. This invention applies

849
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:45.039
<v Speaker 2>a modulated magnetic field to the layer of plasma to

850
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<v Speaker 2>make measuring the conditions inside the layer of gas possible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a new way of modulating electromagnetic waves and communicating

852
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<v Speaker 2>through ionized gases. So, I don't know, I found that

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<v Speaker 2>interesting just relating to more like modern applications what we're

854
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<v Speaker 2>seeing with maybe like increased electromagnetic frequency in our own life,

855
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<v Speaker 2>and do they manipulate weather through that, you know, with

856
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<v Speaker 2>like harp I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that was interesting, and that electricity because I

858
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<v Speaker 3>wanted to show that, like I don't know, like the electricity,

859
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<v Speaker 3>and then like certain metals or chemicals that are in

860
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:32.079
<v Speaker 3>the air, Like does all that start like.

861
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Interacting with each other exactly.

862
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the whole purpose of it, you know,

863
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:39.400
<v Speaker 2>is to put these chemicals in the air so that

864
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:43.599
<v Speaker 2>they are able to interact with an electrical interface, almost.

865
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, exactly.

866
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So another one that they had is another rain maker.

867
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:52.079
<v Speaker 2>So you talked about a rain maker. I think this

868
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:54.440
<v Speaker 2>is a different patent. This is a little bit more

869
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:58.000
<v Speaker 2>modern one. I think yours was earlier. So this is

870
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:02.800
<v Speaker 2>from July twenty fifth, nineteen sixty from inventor Robert K.

871
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:07.199
<v Speaker 2>Jones in Walnut Creek, California. So it's a device that

872
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:12.280
<v Speaker 2>processes and produces rain. The device emulates nature in producing

873
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:17.400
<v Speaker 2>rainfall by reducing atmosphere pressure and temperature below the typical

874
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:22.599
<v Speaker 2>ambient temperature. It induces rain and the volume of air

875
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:25.480
<v Speaker 2>treated and creates a large seating area which increases the

876
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:31.239
<v Speaker 2>probability of inducing precipitation. So I find that interesting too,

877
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:33.440
<v Speaker 2>was like when you were talking about it also the

878
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:40.039
<v Speaker 2>rain making patterns that why do they not apply this

879
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:43.360
<v Speaker 2>to you know, say an area like California when they

880
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 2>have like water shortages or like droughts. Why don't they

881
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:51.960
<v Speaker 2>apply this in Libya or like Syria where they have

882
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:55.199
<v Speaker 2>like hunger problem because they can't produce enough crops because

883
00:52:55.239 --> 00:52:59.000
<v Speaker 2>it's too dry? You know, why don't they apply these

884
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:00.719
<v Speaker 2>things in a positive manner?

885
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:03.679
<v Speaker 3>Good point, because I really do think about it. If

886
00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:06.639
<v Speaker 3>these things exist, why is there so many problems of

887
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:07.440
<v Speaker 3>other places?

888
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Though? Right from within this.

889
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:12.599
<v Speaker 2>Country, even just within the United States.

890
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.039
<v Speaker 1>These things exist and can fix those problems.

891
00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, Like what is stopping you then from you know,

892
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:19.800
<v Speaker 2>helping your country out.

893
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Whereas maybe some of the horrible weather actually just those.

894
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:29.559
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. Oh man, okay, So another one I have is

895
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:34.079
<v Speaker 2>from January eleventh, nineteen sixty eight, so almost to the

896
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.599
<v Speaker 2>exact day. I think we're January twelfth today. So the

897
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:42.840
<v Speaker 2>two inventors are Mario di Grossi and Pietro py Lombardini

898
00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:47.239
<v Speaker 2>to Italian dudes. And the current assignee of the patent

899
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:50.719
<v Speaker 2>is Raytheonco, which I actually didn't look into, but we should.

900
00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:55.079
<v Speaker 2>So this pattern was about a means for generating and

901
00:53:55.119 --> 00:54:00.000
<v Speaker 2>controlling an ionized cloud in the ionosphere. Again about transmit

902
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:05.880
<v Speaker 2>in communication signals directed at an ionized cloud, so the

903
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:10.599
<v Speaker 2>cloud would transmit and propagate communication signals within the ionospheric

904
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:15.679
<v Speaker 2>signal trapping the wavelength ducked that encircles the entire Earth.

905
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Dould I find that, like, yeah, apparently, so.

906
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:27.519
<v Speaker 1>They're they're like kind of like admitting in there that

907
00:54:27.519 --> 00:54:28.440
<v Speaker 1>there's something that.

908
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:32.960
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting playing with like the ether.

909
00:54:33.800 --> 00:54:36.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm when to come up with I know they've

910
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:39.880
<v Speaker 3>I can't think of the name that sometimes they say

911
00:54:40.039 --> 00:54:41.960
<v Speaker 3>is like I think of like this traveling air like

912
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:45.280
<v Speaker 3>the goldst Oh, they're saying that there's basically something they

913
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:46.760
<v Speaker 3>know of that actually circles the whole.

914
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess yeah, I mean we're not like you know, but.

915
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Is that like, could that just be like a lay

916
00:54:57.159 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 1>line of energy?

917
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:01.360
<v Speaker 2>It could be, and like the ion a sphere, I

918
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:04.880
<v Speaker 2>must have an electrical charge, and so basically are they

919
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:08.159
<v Speaker 2>just like hacking into the electrical system of the Earth's

920
00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:12.400
<v Speaker 2>atmosphere or whatever applications they want to use it for.

921
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:17.519
<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting, right, So I think that's that all

922
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I had for some American ones.

923
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:21.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like that's like the secret and him when

924
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:24.239
<v Speaker 3>they say you can't keep stealing electric from the farmer.

925
00:55:25.559 --> 00:55:27.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's that's why.

926
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:29.480
<v Speaker 3>That's why she had to do what she had to do,

927
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:31.760
<v Speaker 3>because they had to you know. That was the reasoning

928
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:34.360
<v Speaker 3>behind everything was happening in that show, just because they

929
00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:36.159
<v Speaker 3>had to stop stealing electric from the farmer.

930
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. You know what, I have actually never seen that interesting. Okay,

931
00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I just have a few more if you want me.

932
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:46.840
<v Speaker 1>To keep going, keep going. Yeah, I've only been fifteen minutes.

933
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I went for forty five.

934
00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:53.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you're that was going quick. But it's all good.

935
00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:57.519
<v Speaker 2>So was this one oh, this is the one you

936
00:55:57.559 --> 00:55:59.719
<v Speaker 2>already covered, so I'm not going to talk about it.

937
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:00.239
<v Speaker 1>It was the.

938
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Process and apparatus for the production of intense artificial clouds,

939
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:09.679
<v Speaker 2>fogs and MISS. So intense fogs, clouds and miss that's

940
00:56:09.719 --> 00:56:12.360
<v Speaker 2>what stay tuned for the next episode because we talk

941
00:56:12.440 --> 00:56:17.320
<v Speaker 2>all about that. Uh oh yeah, this one, this is

942
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:21.840
<v Speaker 2>the most interesting one to me, okay, but it's super technical,

943
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:24.400
<v Speaker 2>so I'm just gonna read the abstract after I describe it.

944
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:28.280
<v Speaker 2>So this is a more modern pattern from January twelfth today,

945
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:32.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty ten, and it was filed in two thousand and seven,

946
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:40.559
<v Speaker 2>so it's an RFID Environmental manipulation inventi fi D is

947
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:49.760
<v Speaker 2>that like, yeah right, weird okay? And its inventor was

948
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:54.880
<v Speaker 2>James Neil Rogers from Langley, British Columbia, a Canadian, which

949
00:56:54.920 --> 00:57:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I found interesting, and it does include aluminium oxide among things.

950
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:02.159
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just going to read some of the abstract

951
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:04.639
<v Speaker 2>because honestly, I don't know any other way to explain

952
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:06.760
<v Speaker 2>it other than I just read it to you. So

953
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:10.199
<v Speaker 2>it says a system and method to reduce signal to

954
00:57:10.280 --> 00:57:15.280
<v Speaker 2>noise ratio within an RIFID enabled warehouse or distribution center

955
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:20.599
<v Speaker 2>by introducing highly reflective aluminum oxide particulate into the atmospheric

956
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:25.079
<v Speaker 2>environment of the warehouse or distribution center. The aluminum oxide

957
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:31.119
<v Speaker 2>will be compromised of nanosize particulate manufactured in an aerosol format.

958
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:35.679
<v Speaker 2>This particulate will be introduced into the environment through the

959
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:40.960
<v Speaker 2>auspices of the heating, ventilation and air conditioning mechanism associated

960
00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:45.679
<v Speaker 2>with the environment. The levels of particulate will be monitored

961
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:48.599
<v Speaker 2>through the use of strategically placed sensors in order to

962
00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:53.960
<v Speaker 2>maintain regulatory compliance. Furthermore, the signal to noise ratio will

963
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:58.400
<v Speaker 2>be enhanced by reducing ambient noise emanating from light fixtures

964
00:57:58.440 --> 00:58:05.360
<v Speaker 2>in the environment through the strategic placement of inferential filters. Furthermore,

965
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:08.920
<v Speaker 2>the signal to noise ratio from man made sources will

966
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:13.719
<v Speaker 2>be reduced by using horizontally configured backscatter transmitting a TENNA

967
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:19.960
<v Speaker 2>within the environment at I don't even know exactly what

968
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.599
<v Speaker 2>that means, but it doesn't sound good to me with

969
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:32.119
<v Speaker 2>like the RFID situation concerning I would say, interestingly, also

970
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.199
<v Speaker 2>in some of our research, like the list that you

971
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:37.880
<v Speaker 2>and I were working off of for this, like you know,

972
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:42.039
<v Speaker 2>one hundred US weather patents or whatever. Some of the

973
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:44.280
<v Speaker 2>warm modern ones that I went through, from like the

974
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:47.960
<v Speaker 2>two thousands onwards, if you click on it to find

975
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:52.280
<v Speaker 2>out information about it, it's like a dead link. So

976
00:58:52.840 --> 00:58:56.280
<v Speaker 2>I found that odd. I mean, you could probably pop

977
00:58:56.360 --> 00:58:59.599
<v Speaker 2>the patent number into like a patent search and find

978
00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:03.239
<v Speaker 2>out more, but I didn't have a ton of time

979
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:05.760
<v Speaker 2>to do that. But actually, I just save that link.

980
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:07.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna leave the link in the bottoms or anybody

981
00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:11.800
<v Speaker 3>wants to. Yeah, you want to patents, there's all. There's

982
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:15.119
<v Speaker 3>actually a few type of sites that you will actually find,

983
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:17.159
<v Speaker 3>like sites listing old weather patents.

984
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Totally. Just the one thing I wanted to say about

985
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:23.440
<v Speaker 2>the more modern patents is that they do get into

986
00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:30.440
<v Speaker 2>more nanofibers nanotech. Like I wanna let me see if

987
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:33.679
<v Speaker 2>I can read off some titles of the patents here.

988
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:39.159
<v Speaker 2>One from year two thousand is for a solar powered airplane.

989
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:48.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how well that would work. Let's see. Yeah,

990
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:53.599
<v Speaker 2>So Process and Apparatus for the production of nanofibers Electrodynamic

991
00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Particle size Analyzer. That's from two thousand and three. Method

992
00:59:59.880 --> 01:00:03.079
<v Speaker 2>for extracting in sequestering carbon dioxide from two thousand and

993
01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:13.760
<v Speaker 2>five probably climate change related the RFID environmental manipulation geoengineering

994
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:20.559
<v Speaker 2>method of business using carbon counterbalance credits from twenty twelve.

995
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:27.119
<v Speaker 2>So I found that interesting considering, you know, we may

996
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:29.840
<v Speaker 2>be moving toward a social credit type of system, and

997
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:32.079
<v Speaker 2>then the environment will be linked to that, climate change

998
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:35.800
<v Speaker 2>will be linked to that. On from February twenty thirteen,

999
01:00:36.679 --> 01:00:40.960
<v Speaker 2>charge seed cloud as a method for increasing particle collisions

1000
01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:46.039
<v Speaker 2>and for scavenging airborne biological agents and other contaminants.

1001
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Contabinants.

1002
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Pretty sure that's what they're doing.

1003
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Now read that name off again.

1004
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So from twenty thirteen, charge seed cloud as a

1005
01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:04.840
<v Speaker 2>method for racing particle collisions and for scavenging airborne biological

1006
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:07.360
<v Speaker 2>agents and other contaminants.

1007
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Wonderful.

1008
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:12.679
<v Speaker 2>So scavenging would imply that they're trying to clean the atmosphere.

1009
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:15.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel like would be to like gather the contaminants.

1010
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:20.800
<v Speaker 2>But could you likewise spread the condaminants that you want?

1011
01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1012
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:27.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. So those are the American ones there are.

1013
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:32.440
<v Speaker 2>There's one UK one that Helen had kindly sent us

1014
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:35.920
<v Speaker 2>that I'll go over quick. So it's the UK patent

1015
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:39.920
<v Speaker 2>from November thirteenth, two thousand and nine. The applicant is

1016
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Rolls Royce PLC. And I don't know, is that like

1017
01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:47.960
<v Speaker 2>the same company as Rolls Royce, like the car Okay,

1018
01:01:48.039 --> 01:01:52.039
<v Speaker 2>So the inventor was Christopher Graham Bright. And it's about

1019
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:57.280
<v Speaker 2>moisture dispersion. So it's this claim is to reduce moisture

1020
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:03.679
<v Speaker 2>in the air with on trails of an aircraft freezes

1021
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:08.039
<v Speaker 2>the water to form ice crystals by producing ions produced

1022
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:15.599
<v Speaker 2>using microwaves, UV radiation, X rays, gamma rays, corpuscular radiation lasers,

1023
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:21.280
<v Speaker 2>or by applying electrical potential to the air. So again,

1024
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:27.840
<v Speaker 2>electricity in the air, playing with ions, this kind of thing.

1025
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:30.079
<v Speaker 1>And now that was a UK one.

1026
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, around two thousand and nine.

1027
01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you know the name? What was the names on there?

1028
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:39.679
<v Speaker 2>Again, there's only one name, Christopher Graham Bright and it

1029
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:50.280
<v Speaker 2>was from Rollsworfs plc. Maybe you never know, yeah, exactly right.

1030
01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:53.800
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. That's what I got about that.

1031
01:02:54.199 --> 01:02:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I just wonder always why, like if there's the potential

1032
01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:01.079
<v Speaker 2>to remove carbon dioxide, they say carbon dioxide is such

1033
01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:03.559
<v Speaker 2>a problem. Is there's a potential to remove that or

1034
01:03:03.599 --> 01:03:05.000
<v Speaker 2>remove contaminants.

1035
01:03:05.559 --> 01:03:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we're going to do it's just fly over fucking

1036
01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:08.760
<v Speaker 1>wuhan and we will have been.

1037
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay then, right, yeah, could we have could we have

1038
01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:14.440
<v Speaker 2>prevented the spread of COVID nineteen just.

1039
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:16.719
<v Speaker 3>Put planes up on the coasts and you know, catch

1040
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:18.360
<v Speaker 3>it as it before it crosses into the border.

1041
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Right. But if they if they know that, you know,

1042
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:28.719
<v Speaker 2>contaminants are linked to certain illnesses, would they then use

1043
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:35.320
<v Speaker 2>that knowledge to cause illnesses? Also? Right? That's my thing,

1044
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:41.800
<v Speaker 2>that's my conclusion from the fun little exercise. Yeah.

1045
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:45.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I just thought, uh, it was just really

1046
01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:51.079
<v Speaker 3>interesting looking into and seeing what's not conspiratorial and what's

1047
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:57.159
<v Speaker 3>actually legit on paper, scientifically said, you know, patented, you

1048
01:03:57.199 --> 01:03:59.480
<v Speaker 3>know that they're admitting to actually being able to do

1049
01:03:59.559 --> 01:04:03.440
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to really I guess weather modification.

1050
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:05.559
<v Speaker 1>And there is even other things that are on that.

1051
01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:08.440
<v Speaker 3>List, and I think you had mentioned it before. Some

1052
01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:14.239
<v Speaker 3>patterns are just like ways of helping planes, I guess.

1053
01:04:13.960 --> 01:04:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Disperse to do certain things that would help with the

1054
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:17.920
<v Speaker 1>weather modification.

1055
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:20.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, totally. Yeah, and even just a couple of

1056
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:23.559
<v Speaker 2>things that I had learned from the franken Sky's documentary

1057
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:26.280
<v Speaker 2>just to kind of like conclude, I guess, like they

1058
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:29.960
<v Speaker 2>even created the first smoke screen in nineteen twenty three

1059
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:33.159
<v Speaker 2>from the US Air Service. I'm sure some people have

1060
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:36.159
<v Speaker 2>probably seen that clip rolling around on TikTok or Instagram,

1061
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:39.679
<v Speaker 2>and it's like a plane flying and it's a very

1062
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:44.079
<v Speaker 2>opaque like solid smoke screen comes across the ocean, and

1063
01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:46.400
<v Speaker 2>it can literally just like camouflage like a whole fleet

1064
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:50.199
<v Speaker 2>of ships if they wanted to write. There's also been

1065
01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:57.719
<v Speaker 2>like Project Serious, Project Cumulus, Project Skyfire, Project Skywater, project

1066
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Storm Fury, like these are whether manipulation projects from the

1067
01:05:03.079 --> 01:05:06.280
<v Speaker 2>government that are not a conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and you even mentioned that at one point. I

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<v Speaker 3>think one of us was probably you who had mentioned.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there was like I came across something where

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<v Speaker 3>they were saying that they can even disguise like ships

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<v Speaker 3>out and sea and stuff with like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there's a couple theories on that, and

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<v Speaker 2>a couple almost like urban legend type of theories about that,

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<v Speaker 2>but apparently it is possible. And there's even like Project Popeye,

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<v Speaker 2>which are from nineteen sixty six to seventy two, which

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<v Speaker 2>is all about weather warfare, so manipulating, you know, whether

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<v Speaker 2>against the enemy, and I'm pretty sure they probably experimented

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<v Speaker 2>on that a bit in Vietnam War too.

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<v Speaker 3>See, and this will even almost kind of go back

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<v Speaker 3>to what I was mentioning in the beginning. You have

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who has this idea. Now, regardless if it was

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01:05:59.199 --> 01:06:01.079
<v Speaker 3>for positive negative, or just.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that this is doable.

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<v Speaker 3>It came up with something, and then the government is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this might help with the Department of Agriculture, right, you know,

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01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:14.599
<v Speaker 3>to help in a positive way, So we'll fund you

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01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:16.679
<v Speaker 3>since you're smart enough to come up with this and

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01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:20.599
<v Speaker 3>figure it out, so now you can make that thing real.

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<v Speaker 3>And then now since that exists, we're going to use

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01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:27.480
<v Speaker 3>this on that country and do something else exactly, Like

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01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:30.360
<v Speaker 3>is it all really like we're just funding scientists to

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01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:32.880
<v Speaker 3>create shit that we want to use for a different

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<v Speaker 3>reasons somewhere else. Yeah, Well, so that it's like a way

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<v Speaker 3>of privatize, Like it's like really a version of musk.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally privatize the.

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<v Speaker 3>Person a worker for the government now because you're getting

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<v Speaker 3>funded by them to make this invention.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, absolutely, you know. And even like harp technology aha

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01:06:54.119 --> 01:06:58.599
<v Speaker 2>a RP it uses frequency to manipulate the weather. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's why like the ionization and stuff like really struck

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<v Speaker 2>me as interesting like how far back those patterns go

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01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:08.880
<v Speaker 2>because they have like with harp like elf wave transmitters,

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<v Speaker 2>which is linked to chemtrails. So this ties into like

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<v Speaker 2>the climate change agenda as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like the US military was even quoted as

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<v Speaker 2>saying they wanted to control and own the weather by

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, so we're only two years away from that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they have patents messing with it since s eeteen

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<v Speaker 3>ninety one, so they might be well on their way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well on their way exactly. Yeah, Apparently the chemtrails purpose

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<v Speaker 2>mostly is to help the patterns and vibrational structures that

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<v Speaker 2>control the weather. So the substances and toxins that can

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<v Speaker 2>conduct whatever they want to do up in the atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, Yeah, And like I did mention before, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, and even if I read them, I probably

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have known, Like was what there was definitely stuff

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<v Speaker 3>again that popped up as toxic. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>the levels being used was toxic, but it was something

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<v Speaker 3>that came up.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and I'm sure you know, all these things

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<v Speaker 2>have accumulative effect over time. If they've been spraying you

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<v Speaker 2>know this noticeably, I'm sure they've been spraying us for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time subtly, but the last few years it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty undeniable. You know, if you just look up and

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<v Speaker 2>observe the sky, it's not the same as when we

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<v Speaker 2>were kids, I would say. So, I'm sure this has

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<v Speaker 2>a cumulative effect and that's why maybe you know, linked

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<v Speaker 2>to seeing the rise of dementia and autism and all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of other things, because our body is not equipped

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<v Speaker 2>to handle in this amount.

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<v Speaker 3>Very well said h Well, thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 3>covering this topic with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, I thought it was very informative. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't as much I mean, I guess there's a conspiracy

1138
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<v Speaker 3>to It wasn't as much a cult or you know,

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01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:07.600
<v Speaker 3>magic or all that stuff. But I just thought it's

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01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:10.000
<v Speaker 3>just something very interesting that people should know. You know,

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01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:14.000
<v Speaker 3>we have a lot of conspiracy theorists being deemed nuts

1142
01:09:14.039 --> 01:09:16.199
<v Speaker 3>thinking that this stuff is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet okay, there's actually proof that it can be done.

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01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:22.399
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, you know, and there's hope for anyone out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like even my dad, who is a pilot himself, didn't

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01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:29.199
<v Speaker 2>believe six months ago that chemtrails were a thing, and

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01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:33.239
<v Speaker 2>now he's like, oh, I see it's not a contrail.

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<v Speaker 2>I see the difference now. So if my parents can

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01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:41.600
<v Speaker 2>do it, anyone realizs it, you know, And I really.

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<v Speaker 3>Do think just going forward with the other shows coming

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01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:46.000
<v Speaker 3>out this will you know some of these things may

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01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:49.840
<v Speaker 3>tied into that or just to make you wonder, does

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<v Speaker 3>that have anything that they covered with the patents have.

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<v Speaker 1>To do with this? You know, I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>all It all went together in.

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<v Speaker 2>A way, totally ties together.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much. Do you want to plug your show?

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<v Speaker 3>Let everybody know where they can find you at as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Besides this show, sure if they don't find me super annoying,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear more. Yeah, you check out you right, Yeah,

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01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:19.000
<v Speaker 2>they can check out The Spiritual Gangsters. So that's on

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube and all the major podcast platforms, and it's good chats,

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01:10:23.279 --> 01:10:25.439
<v Speaker 2>you know. I think people will enjoy it once they

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01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:28.159
<v Speaker 2>hear it. Yeah, please check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome And yeah, her links will be on the bottom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also in my link tree as well.

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<v Speaker 3>You can find the Spiritual Gangsters in there because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a co host of that. You can also find a

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<v Speaker 3>Cult Rejects and Friends. The links for that the Element server.

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<v Speaker 3>If you haven't joined the Element Server. I don't know

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01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:46.880
<v Speaker 3>why you haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>Plenty of other shows in there on the podcast, plenty

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01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:53.760
<v Speaker 3>of other like channels just based on things that I

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01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:56.680
<v Speaker 3>don't even talk about that people are interested in. And

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01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:00.479
<v Speaker 3>we do have our Twin Peaks watch part going on

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<v Speaker 3>right now. By the time this comes out, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>sure if you'll still.

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<v Speaker 1>Be going, but you know, we do have one going on.

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<v Speaker 3>We're starting season three soon, so you know, we've done

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing so far, the movie, the movie in

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01:11:11.079 --> 01:11:14.479
<v Speaker 3>the first two seasons. Yeah, so we got that going

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01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:17.359
<v Speaker 3>on new Twitter account. I'll just throw that in there.

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01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:19.560
<v Speaker 3>Check that out. My Twitter accounts in the bottom. The

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01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:22.600
<v Speaker 3>old one, well it's not active by me anymore, so

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01:11:22.720 --> 01:11:25.880
<v Speaker 3>check that out. And yeah, everything is in the bottom,

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01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:29.920
<v Speaker 3>all the links. If you're a first time listener, I

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<v Speaker 3>hope you enjoyed this. I hope you found this interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope maybe we said something that made you go hmmm.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's all we're trying to do, make you

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01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:39.479
<v Speaker 3>think or maybe make you look up all the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that we might have mentioned didn't even go into.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, do your own research, make this real for you.

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01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:45.359
<v Speaker 1>And not make it real.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I told you, you know, do your own work

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Returning listener, thank you very much. That's what's up.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit that share button and pass it on and until

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<v Speaker 3>the next one, everybody be well later
