Speaker 1: See something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Some stars.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, everyone, welcome back.
Speaker 3: To the NY Patriots Show. Thank you very much for
Speaker 3: tuning in again today. A very interesting topic. We're not
Speaker 3: totally recording it in order, but it will come out
Speaker 3: in or the right.
Speaker 1: Order that's supposed to come out in.
Speaker 3: This actually was something that topic that kind of came
Speaker 3: across us.
Speaker 1: Teresa had brought it up kind of.
Speaker 3: She had sent me something from Instagram that was mentioning
Speaker 3: something about patents, and I was like, wow, this really
Speaker 3: kind of goes with stuff that we've already recorded about
Speaker 3: possibly you never know, probably probably yeah, But I was like,
Speaker 3: you know, and to try to say all that in
Speaker 3: one episode one would be very long, and two like
Speaker 3: you'd have to worry about censorship probably no matter where, honestly,
Speaker 3: but I'm sure some platforms worse than others, and we
Speaker 3: all know.
Speaker 1: What that is.
Speaker 3: But uh, I still thought it was interesting. So I
Speaker 3: was like, maybe we could just do all these separately.
Speaker 3: And like I had said before, because this is the
Speaker 3: third time now trying to record this, the they'd totally
Speaker 3: different intro as well. Ye As I said in the
Speaker 3: prior to recording that we're not using I do think,
Speaker 3: I will admit, you know, I do believe that these things.
Speaker 3: You know, I do believe camptrails exist. I do believe
Speaker 3: that whether modification exists, I do think. I think a
Speaker 3: lot of that stuff it does exist. Now do I
Speaker 3: think some people think stuff that isn't real?
Speaker 1: Is that?
Speaker 3: Yes, I do think there's exaggeration, just like there is
Speaker 3: people who don't.
Speaker 1: Know that it's real, you know, on both sides.
Speaker 3: So and the reason why I was actually like really
Speaker 3: interested in doing this is because like we can actually
Speaker 3: show that the conspiracy theorists really aren't that crazy, because yes,
Speaker 3: there is proof of weather modification because there's patents for it.
Speaker 3: You know, there is proof a messing with stuff in
Speaker 3: the skies because there's patents for it. So I just
Speaker 3: was like, this is a way that we could just
Speaker 3: show that these things exist, maybe who made them, what
Speaker 3: chemicals might be used, and that's it. Not saying it's
Speaker 3: doing that, but weather modification is.
Speaker 1: A real thing. And I don't know why I've never
Speaker 1: thought of like looking up the patents for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so weird because, like like you said, I
Speaker 2: never would have thought to look up the patents for it,
Speaker 2: and I was shocked at like how old. Some of
Speaker 2: the patents are.
Speaker 3: Very old, Like, yeah, I think you have just well
Speaker 3: I think because of also where I started. I know
Speaker 3: you have some in the early nineteen hundreds, but I
Speaker 3: think my first one is like eighteen ninety or eighteen
Speaker 3: ninety one or.
Speaker 1: Something like that.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I saw that, I was just like, yo,
Speaker 3: like weather patent's back then. I mean, that's over one
Speaker 3: hundred years old.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: I would really hope to god they're at least ten
Speaker 3: times more advanced than that by now, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I'm sure. Yeah, And it's interesting that the nature
Speaker 2: of the patents changes over time. I knowed that, and
Speaker 2: I'll touch on that a little bit later on, but
Speaker 2: the focus of them seems to change.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but these things are definitely old.
Speaker 3: And uh, there was a thing I did want to
Speaker 3: mention because some of our fans, some of the people
Speaker 3: on the Element channel, and we did have Helen actually
Speaker 3: help us with.
Speaker 1: This as well.
Speaker 3: She sent us a few patents from the UK.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's our reporter on the streets.
Speaker 3: I told her we got to get her a little
Speaker 3: inspector cap and she's got to start smoking a pipe
Speaker 3: home yes, trying to get at a crop in like
Speaker 3: in one of Auntry.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, you.
Speaker 3: Gotta crop a hat in and then pipe in your
Speaker 3: mouth in a picture and I'll use it on the
Speaker 3: show and she's like, you're crazy.
Speaker 1: But but uh yeah, so we have that.
Speaker 3: And another listener and fan from the Element did send
Speaker 3: me something that I actually find interesting. Not totally pertaining
Speaker 3: to this, but I just find it interesting overall. I mean,
Speaker 3: could it just have been, you know, coincidence and just
Speaker 3: a horrible thing that happened, Yeah, I'm sure. Could this
Speaker 3: have also maybe have been done on purpose? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think that's possible. But there was a patent. You know,
Speaker 3: there was the Patent Office in the United States in
Speaker 3: eighteen thirty six December fifteenth, eighteen thirty six, and Jamatri
Speaker 3: people that's forty five hitted together when the US Patent
Speaker 3: Office caught fire. Up until eighteen thirty six, with patents,
Speaker 3: there was no numbers to them. It was basically just
Speaker 3: like I even think the one that I'm the first
Speaker 3: one I'm showing, it's basically just like someone stating something
Speaker 3: and there was two witnesses. It's like no registered number nothing,
Speaker 3: So like technically anything prior to this, there's no proof
Speaker 3: of so you know, I don't you know, could you
Speaker 3: have maybe I knew of a patent and then when
Speaker 3: it went burnt down, Oh that's mine now and I'll
Speaker 3: just rewrite it, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like you know, who knows?
Speaker 3: You know, I guess maybe the history of patents to
Speaker 3: begin with could be lost.
Speaker 1: We may not you know know who really.
Speaker 2: Middle intellectual property?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just didn't want to bring that up.
Speaker 3: That in eighteen thirty six there was a fire and
Speaker 3: all of them pretty much prior to that were gone done.
Speaker 1: And then after that is when they.
Speaker 3: Started, like you know, actually giving them run numbers and
Speaker 3: making it a little bit more professional. So, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was actually whether modification patents
Speaker 3: back then.
Speaker 1: That's really old. But you know, if there was, I
Speaker 1: guess there's no proof of it anymore as well.
Speaker 2: We can't know for sure. And it's funny too. Some
Speaker 2: of the older patents, like the diagrams, like the drawings,
Speaker 2: almost looks like somebody just like drew it on a napkin.
Speaker 1: Patent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's my idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, some of them, I don't even think I even
Speaker 3: showed the diagrams because it just like a couple of pages.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, they were as much as it would
Speaker 3: literally be as if any of us actually just drew
Speaker 3: something on a sheet of paper on a desk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, how does this equate to like the
Speaker 2: actual invention you're talking about? But I'm not the scientist
Speaker 2: or the inventor, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, all right, so well I'll get this.
Speaker 1: I'll get this going. I'll get this putty started.
Speaker 3: In the United States Penn Office, I got Louis Gafman
Speaker 3: of Chicago, Illinois method of producing rainfall specification forming part
Speaker 3: of letters patent number.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna read off this whole.
Speaker 3: Thing, but this was the application was filed in July sixteenth,
Speaker 3: eighteen ninety one, and I ended up going into effect,
Speaker 3: I guess November tenth, eighteen ninety one.
Speaker 1: So this is old eighteen ninety one.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: To all whom it may concern.
Speaker 3: Be it known that I, Lewis Gathman, a citizen in
Speaker 3: the United States of America residing at Chicago, in the
Speaker 3: County of Crook and state of Illinois, have invented certain
Speaker 3: new and useful improvements in methods of producing rainfall, of
Speaker 3: which the following is a specification.
Speaker 1: I'll read off a little bit of it.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go too much into a lot
Speaker 3: of these patents to certain things that are highlighted that
Speaker 3: you can see on the screen or that I will
Speaker 3: go into some of the things. I'm more looking into
Speaker 3: as if there's chemicals being used, what they're claiming this
Speaker 3: will do, why if it says why, and some of
Speaker 3: those and the ones coming up, I'm just like, Wow,
Speaker 3: at least you're being honest here. It's like, why don't
Speaker 3: you just say we made this to funck shit up right?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But yeah, so this isn't going to be me reading off,
Speaker 3: you know, twenty pages of a pat Sorry if that's
Speaker 3: what you wanted as well, But I'm sure most listeners
Speaker 3: are happy on that either.
Speaker 2: Yeah, too much. Some of it's it's very technical some
Speaker 2: of it and signs heavy and it's like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I don't understand all of this.
Speaker 3: And I, like I said, I think, really just the
Speaker 3: thing that I really want to get at for the
Speaker 3: most part, besides maybe showing why and what's being used,
Speaker 3: is really that these things actually exist.
Speaker 2: Exactly just the potential is there.
Speaker 3: Just just knowing that these exist and if these are
Speaker 3: actually like possible, you know, if these patents can actually
Speaker 3: be worked and used.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's saying enough.
Speaker 2: Honestly, does it not mean that it did?
Speaker 1: You know? That's the thing too that I was looking
Speaker 1: into with patents.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, you know, maybe back then
Speaker 3: the ones that I'm showing now, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you actually had to show like, oh look this actually
Speaker 3: I made it happen. It might just be through theoretically
Speaker 3: and science, this should cause that, so this should work,
Speaker 3: you know it could I think something.
Speaker 2: But I would I would imagine they wouldn't grant the
Speaker 2: patent if it didn't work. Or I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 2: it would work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe they want have to go through the time
Speaker 1: of proving that it doesn't.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how it was.
Speaker 1: And that's also another thing too. I did want to mention.
Speaker 3: Some of these patents if you start looking, if you
Speaker 3: want to start going down the rabbit hole. I really
Speaker 3: didn't want to turn this into a three hour show,
Speaker 3: but it is very interesting to know though that when
Speaker 3: it starts coming to and some of these things because
Speaker 3: of it dealing with weather, and it can be a
Speaker 3: benefit for agriculture if you're using it for a good way.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they will also go under like the Department of
Speaker 3: Agriculture and then they can get funding from the Department
Speaker 3: of Agriculture. Was technically, you know, for the government. You
Speaker 3: will now start getting funding from the government to make
Speaker 3: these things happen, so you can actually find the depending
Speaker 3: on what your real intentions is of why you're making this,
Speaker 3: you'll have the government paying you to do it as well. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's something I wanted to throw in there that I
Speaker 3: actually thought was very interesting from the same listener and
Speaker 3: a fan that sent me the thing about the eighteen
Speaker 3: thirty six fire also started digging into that and started
Speaker 3: finding about a lot of stuff with this, and I
Speaker 3: blame me. I appreciate it totally and I'm totally, like,
Speaker 3: very interested in it, but I was like, this is
Speaker 3: just too much to add to the show.
Speaker 1: But I did want to throw that in there.
Speaker 3: You know, I wasn't gonna start going through every pat
Speaker 3: and start seeing which one fell under that. But I
Speaker 3: know some of the ones I'm showing, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: they mentioned does. So with that said, let me continue.
Speaker 3: So Lewis Gathman. My invention relates to a method of
Speaker 3: producing a rainfall, and it consists in several steps here
Speaker 3: and after, fully described and specifically claimed, which when combined,
Speaker 3: served to accomplish the above named result. My method is
Speaker 3: designed to produce a condensation in the upper regions of
Speaker 3: the atmospheric air in such quantities that a cloud will
Speaker 3: be formed from which a rainfall will be precipitated. So
Speaker 3: going by this, this guy will somehow create basically a
Speaker 3: cloud that will then rain. And that's back in eighteen
Speaker 3: ninety one. The bottom it shows, you know, Lewis Gathman.
Speaker 3: Now back then, I don't know if this was a
Speaker 3: part of a way of maybe saying, yeah, this is legit.
Speaker 1: You have witnesses. I don't know how that works either.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like with.
Speaker 3: A when it comes down to like getting something notarized,
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess unless you know someone personally who
Speaker 3: does it, you kind of don't have your choice. You
Speaker 3: just go somewhere and like you can't pull something over
Speaker 3: on them.
Speaker 1: They're gonna ask to make sure that's really you for
Speaker 1: the notary.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can pick your own witnesses
Speaker 3: as well, which would be very convenient.
Speaker 1: But you know who knows.
Speaker 3: I don't know how the exact witness stuff works, but
Speaker 3: there's two witnesses there, wh lots Or Latz.
Speaker 1: And Harry C. Kennedy Vieah Kennedy again real quick.
Speaker 3: Lewis Gathman just wanted to mention him. Real Fast was
Speaker 3: born in Handover. His father was a school teacher and
Speaker 3: instilled in his son a lifelong love of astronomy. He
Speaker 3: moved to the United States in eighteen sixty four and
Speaker 3: eventually moved to Chicago, where he lived until the end
Speaker 3: of the nineteenth century when he moved to Washington, d C. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: he came from Prussia.
Speaker 1: At the time. So I did want to mention that too,
Speaker 1: he came from Prussia. And we also have I want
Speaker 1: to ed real quick.
Speaker 3: Lewis Gafmine was an engineer and inventor who held numerous patents.
Speaker 1: In many different fields.
Speaker 3: Initially, Gatherine created equipment for screening and sifting wheat and
Speaker 3: flour and held a number of patents for these devices.
Speaker 3: In the eighteen eighties, Gatman built three astronomical observatories in
Speaker 3: the Chicago area and was working on a new type
Speaker 3: of telescope lens. His Chicago home also included a domed
Speaker 3: observatory tower. Gatherine received a pattern in the eighteen nineties
Speaker 3: based on his research.
Speaker 1: And weather modification.
Speaker 3: Gafmine later became interested in ordnance development, and in nineteen
Speaker 3: oh one and the gasmine Gun, an eighteen inch gun
Speaker 3: to be mounted on ships that was designed to send
Speaker 3: the large charges of high explosives at water level.
Speaker 2: The gun was.
Speaker 3: Tested at the government proving ground at Sandy Hook, but
Speaker 3: was rejected by the US military. Nineteen sixteen, Gathman invented
Speaker 3: a new type of battleship armor based on the use
Speaker 3: of air chambers.
Speaker 1: And shock absorbers. So, I mean he's done some.
Speaker 2: Stuff interesting man, Yes, And he died.
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventeen. And here we have.
Speaker 3: I mentioned before one of the witnesses was William H. Lutz,
Speaker 3: and we have I found couldn't find really much about
Speaker 3: him at all, but I was able to find his gravestone.
Speaker 3: And this matches, you know the time that even for
Speaker 3: the patent to be around and they're right on his gravestone.
Speaker 3: You have a gigantic uh Masonic symbol.
Speaker 1: You have the square and compass with the G in it.
Speaker 2: How appropriate?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's very convenient that a witness was a Freemason.
Speaker 3: Obviously they just.
Speaker 1: Liked that design. Maybe maybe the wife got it for maybe.
Speaker 3: She outlived him and she thought he was cute put
Speaker 3: it on there by accident, or maybe he was a Mason.
Speaker 2: I wonder if, like a lot of inventors would have
Speaker 2: been ma since.
Speaker 3: You know, I was going to try to go down
Speaker 3: that rabbit hole, especially after I found this, But again,
Speaker 3: it's really more of like I really just wanted to
Speaker 3: show that these things do exist.
Speaker 2: I know, we could go in a million directs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, you know, I'm already I'm already beyond
Speaker 3: the fact that it exists. It's like, you know, that's
Speaker 3: like when people like, well, who really formed the OTO?
Speaker 3: I I'm sure every story told to us is fabricated,
Speaker 3: but it exists. Yes, So you can spend ten years
Speaker 3: trying to figure out who started it and forget that
Speaker 3: it exists.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 3: That's like you'll never know magic because you're too worried
Speaker 3: to figure out who started the Freemasons with the GOTO.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we've got William H.
Speaker 3: Lotts April fourth, eighteen eighty to September nineteenth nineteen fifty seven,
Speaker 3: probably the same guy who witnessed this paton with that
Speaker 3: g and compass in square on his tombstone. Next one,
Speaker 3: I want to go into United States Patent Office Paul
Speaker 3: wife Weiss of Paris and Jules Verdier of Hind, France,
Speaker 3: which I thought was weird there from another country process
Speaker 3: and apparatus for the production of intense artificial clouds fogs
Speaker 3: or mists. I had to definitely include this one because
Speaker 3: of the reasoning of the second episode that's going to
Speaker 3: be coming out the whole beginning of the episode.
Speaker 1: Real quick, I'll go into it.
Speaker 3: This is patent patented April twenty seventh, nineteen twenty. I
Speaker 3: will add, though it wasn't oh wow, same year that
Speaker 3: what's his face died December tenth, nineteen seventeen. This was
Speaker 3: the application was filed, so it actually took almost ten
Speaker 3: years to to get it patented. Yeah, to whom it
Speaker 3: may concern being known that we pull Weiss engineer of
Speaker 3: seventy I think that might be seventy eighth Avenue, Henry
Speaker 3: Martin at Paris Department of the Scene in France and
Speaker 3: Jules Videre of Vadier.
Speaker 1: However, you say that.
Speaker 3: Engineer of seven rue Villa Boise, I'm messing up to
Speaker 3: somewhere in France, Citizens of the French. Why is French
Speaker 3: people patenting here? Of the French Republic have invented certain
Speaker 3: new and useful improvements in process? Maybe that's what it
Speaker 3: was through this could have been possibly That's another thing
Speaker 3: I want to add. Some of these patents are kind
Speaker 3: of like adding to old ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say, sorry to interrupt you, but I actually
Speaker 2: have notes on the same patent from lower So we
Speaker 2: had like a list that we went through because I
Speaker 2: think it was probably an improvement on the previous patent update.
Speaker 1: Even Inspector Helen pointed that out to me.
Speaker 3: With the UK ones, She said that a lot of
Speaker 3: those were I think either kind of like going back
Speaker 3: to hours or they were like add ons to theirs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I noticed too a lot of them they
Speaker 2: have filings in different countries. So and this is not
Speaker 2: surprising that like this happens to be invented by two
Speaker 2: French people, but this is the American filing of the patent,
Speaker 2: because some of them have I noticed had like Great Britain, Denmark, Canada, US,
Speaker 2: like they're in all different all different countries.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, continue right, apparatus for the production of intense
Speaker 3: artificial clouds, fogs or mists, and do hereby declare the
Speaker 3: following to be a full, clear and exact description of
Speaker 3: the invention, such as will enables others skilled in the
Speaker 3: art to which it appertains to make and use the same. Basically,
Speaker 3: it's saying that this is what this is for the
Speaker 3: present invention renders it possible to produce very opaque artificial
Speaker 3: mists by affecting the atomization of anhydris chlorids such as
Speaker 3: titanium chlorid or static chlorid or analogous or analogious bodies
Speaker 3: in a moist a monocle atmosphere.
Speaker 2: That's funny. I literally wrote that exact thing.
Speaker 3: Oh see, and I made sure that I I highlighted that.
Speaker 1: And then at the bottom of the show, pollwise Jules
Speaker 1: Verdeer witnesses chas p Presley and Alexander bash Hole.
Speaker 3: Yeah maybe it sounds man so yeah, all right, So
Speaker 3: it mentions an hydrogenis an hydris chlorids, titanium chlorids, danta chlorid,
Speaker 3: and I mentioned chas Pea Presley and hydrous HCl response
Speaker 3: and hydrous hydrogen chlorid is a CI mission chemical and
Speaker 3: like chlorine, is a toxic inhalation hazard awesome. CI's mission
Speaker 3: related to HC eight. CI's mission related to a h
Speaker 3: CL is limited to distribution in use.
Speaker 1: So this is saying that it is toxic.
Speaker 3: When you go and look up static chloride, it says
Speaker 3: toxic inhalation, ingestion, or skin contact with material may cause
Speaker 3: severe injury or death.
Speaker 1: Now I just.
Speaker 3: Want to add I do not know the dosages, but
Speaker 3: going I'm just saying that at some dosage this stuff
Speaker 3: is toxic.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the patent whatever, but just showing.
Speaker 3: You and something I also found interesting.
Speaker 1: The process of manufacturing chlorobenzene.
Speaker 3: The witness for that was JP Presley as well, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's interesting.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to throw that in there. I
Speaker 1: thought that was interesting. And chlorobenzene.
Speaker 3: Is an aromatic organic compound and chemical formula blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Chloro Benzene was once was used in manufacture of pesticides,
Speaker 3: most notably DDT. If anybody knows anything about DDT, I
Speaker 3: don't have to say any more about that.
Speaker 1: If you don't know anything about DDT, you look it up.
Speaker 2: Wait, year was that pattern that was the nineteen seventeen one.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, that's this patent.
Speaker 3: Nineteen sixteen, because the chemical was made prior to the patent.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: Yes, So the patent for that chemical came out in
Speaker 3: nineteen sixteen.
Speaker 1: And Chas P.
Speaker 3: Presley was a witness to that, and he was a
Speaker 3: witness to the other weather modification pattern.
Speaker 1: I just showed you that had something that can be toxic.
Speaker 3: Again, like I said, I don't know if it's being
Speaker 3: used toxic with that patent, but yeah, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm getting at.
Speaker 1: Definitely on to the next one, the Rainmaker. Some reason
Speaker 1: is that like a I feel like that's a book.
Speaker 1: It's like a legal book or something.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe yeah, like a Tom Cruise movie or something.
Speaker 2: Or John Christiaan novel.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I was thinking of a Christian novel.
Speaker 3: Yeahs I read it. It's funny how many people start
Speaker 3: reading war books after they get locked up in prison,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 1: Was one of them too. But I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I was like, why are we reading this while we're
Speaker 1: locked up?
Speaker 3: I need to be reminded about the quits system anymore.
Speaker 3: I guess when you're in jail you want to read
Speaker 3: about other motherfuckers getting locked up.
Speaker 1: Yeah he got it too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not alone, even.
Speaker 1: Though it is just a book.
Speaker 3: The United States Patton Office, James M. Quadre of Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 1: The rain Rainmaker. This was Oh wow, see I must
Speaker 1: have went out of order. This actually came out prior
Speaker 1: to the other one. This was Paton did July fourteenth,
Speaker 1: nineteen fourteen, and the application filed it was August six,
Speaker 1: nineteen thirteen. Be it known that I, James R.
Speaker 3: Cordre, citizen of the United States, residing at Los Angeles,
Speaker 3: in the County of Los Angeles, in state of California,
Speaker 3: have invented certain new and useful improvements in rain makers,
Speaker 3: of which the following is a specification. My invention relates
Speaker 3: to methods of and apparatus for producing rain, and the
Speaker 3: object of my invention is to provide a method which
Speaker 3: may be employed in those sections of the world where
Speaker 3: rainfalls occur at widely separated periodic intervals to produce rain
Speaker 3: during what is ordinarly ordinarily known as a dry season.
Speaker 1: So they are saying that in this.
Speaker 3: You know, when some of the ones that I'm going
Speaker 3: to go into, it will also specify Yeah, that you
Speaker 3: know this stuff can Like this is saying, you know,
Speaker 3: we could use this for places where there's dry crops,
Speaker 3: you know, when.
Speaker 1: You need rain. You know we could do this to
Speaker 1: help keep the crops going.
Speaker 3: Some of them will actually even tell you it may
Speaker 3: not be used for such a good thing.
Speaker 1: Well, this one so far is also.
Speaker 3: But one thing I did want to include is some
Speaker 3: of the stuff that's used in this one in the
Speaker 3: drawings which I'm not showing. Figure one illustrates a tethered
Speaker 3: balloon employed in testing the conditions of the atmosphere to determine.
Speaker 1: The exact method or treatment to pursue.
Speaker 3: Figure two illustrates one of a number of balloons employed
Speaker 3: in raising powder and chloride of potash and exploding the
Speaker 3: powder and so scattering the potash. Figure three illustrates one
Speaker 3: of a number of balloons employed in raising powder and water,
Speaker 3: the powder being exploded to scatter the water.
Speaker 1: Figure four illustrates one even.
Speaker 3: This one blows my mind, one of a number of
Speaker 3: balloons to be employed in raising a tank containing sulfuric
Speaker 3: acid and crushed bone, the bone and acid being intended
Speaker 3: as a steady means for generating nitrogen.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, all okay then.
Speaker 3: Man, okay, James m Quadre, you go with your bets.
Speaker 2: This vision of like this mad scientist just like combining
Speaker 2: like all these beakers like boom, Yes, like I got
Speaker 2: something here. She was like, oh man, this is I
Speaker 2: don't even think of that.
Speaker 3: This is that moment when I was talking about before
Speaker 3: and I don't know what intro was in it.
Speaker 1: May not even have mentioned it in this show. Uh
Speaker 1: just tried so many times.
Speaker 3: But yeah, right, you know this is that point where
Speaker 3: it's like, is this where the theory is d comes
Speaker 3: into plane? Is it like the scientist is like thinking
Speaker 3: in his head like all right, bones have something in
Speaker 3: them that, once mixed.
Speaker 1: With what this chemical compound is, you should get this.
Speaker 1: Like I'm hoping that's what this is, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: it probably is. Yeah, I hope it's probably been tested
Speaker 1: and proven.
Speaker 3: But maybe this is one of those things where it's
Speaker 3: just you know, in theory.
Speaker 2: To be tested on a small scale and then just
Speaker 2: theorize on a larger scale. We hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 1: Ah, Then another one I have.
Speaker 3: I just honestly I think that that thing saying that
Speaker 3: it can produce clouds terrain, I mean that's proof right
Speaker 3: there that can manipulate weather, and I just thought the
Speaker 3: sopheric acid and bones was was enough.
Speaker 1: So I'm moving on from that.
Speaker 3: One United States Patent Office process for controlling whether Harvey M.
Speaker 3: Brandall Wilton a signer to WC Inc, a corporation of Delaware.
Speaker 3: That is another thing too, and it was kind of
Speaker 3: I didn't want to go too crazy down that rabbit
Speaker 3: hole WC Inc. If you start looking into what they're
Speaker 3: into that company, that could be almost another conspiracy theory
Speaker 3: in itself. People looking to look into that, you know,
Speaker 3: I highly suggest it look into other patents they've done, people.
Speaker 1: And stuff that have been associated with it.
Speaker 3: Again, that was even something that was brought to my
Speaker 3: attention from the same person went to eighteen thirty six.
Speaker 3: They started looking into some patents and came across that
Speaker 3: company and found some of the interesting stuff. I did
Speaker 3: so I was not going to drag this out. Uh.
Speaker 3: This invention relates to a process affecting changes in weather conditions,
Speaker 3: more specifically, the process for dissipating clouds and clouds and
Speaker 3: fog by clearing the atmosphere of moisture particles.
Speaker 1: That are large enough to be visible and yet not large.
Speaker 3: Enough to fall out of suspension in the gases of
Speaker 3: the atmosphere. Specifically, an object of this intention is to
Speaker 3: maintain contact weather conditions at airports, air traffic zones and centers,
Speaker 3: and on airways by reducing economic reducing the amount.
Speaker 1: Of visible water vapor blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Another object object of this invention is to control weather,
Speaker 3: which causes hail damage, lightning, and interferences with wave transmissions
Speaker 3: by the reduction of visible water vapor through the dissipation
Speaker 3: of clouds. Another object of this invention is the control
Speaker 3: of weather by dissipating typhoons, hurricanes, and other storm centers
Speaker 3: by the dissipation of the convective clouds forming the weather.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: It goes on to even mention that is to control
Speaker 3: weather through snow and sleep and the control of weather
Speaker 3: causing snow in sleep in heavily populated areas where large
Speaker 3: quantities are particularly undesirable because of its effect on traffic conditions.
Speaker 3: So I guess if somebody wants to control traffic instead
Speaker 3: of closing down bridges, Like who was that guy, that
Speaker 3: fat Republican that was running with Trump? Oh? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: he killed just close down bridges.
Speaker 1: I guess we can just cause snow inhale in sleep.
Speaker 2: Where was this invention for the snow and buffalo recently? Right?
Speaker 3: Another object of the present invention is the process of
Speaker 3: dissipating weather frontal systems which cause floods to continuous rains.
Speaker 3: And another object of the present invention is to provide
Speaker 3: rain in designated areas by use of my weather control process.
Speaker 3: It even said to help provide desirable weather for sport events.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So back then in nineteen forty eight, I guess they're
Speaker 3: already realizing that, you know, weather could be a problem
Speaker 3: for making money in sporting events.
Speaker 2: I wonder if Super Bowl was already around.
Speaker 3: But I did find that interesting that it even did
Speaker 3: say that part of this is to control the weather
Speaker 3: and causing snow and sleet and heavily populated areas where
Speaker 3: it's particularly undesirable.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, that's the process for controlling weather. US's United
Speaker 3: States Patent Office nineteen forty eight eight to seventh.
Speaker 1: I have another one here.
Speaker 3: United States Patent Office Generation of Electrical Fields. Some of
Speaker 3: these are gonna be a little bit shorter with I
Speaker 3: just find it interesting that they're playing with electricity in
Speaker 3: the skies application May fifteenth, nineteen fifty six. This invention
Speaker 3: relates to the conversion of mechanical engine energy into electrical energy,
Speaker 3: and more particularly to a regenerative system for charging bodies
Speaker 3: or clouds. So back in nineteen fifty nine, was patented
Speaker 3: in April seventh.
Speaker 1: By then, they seems to me that.
Speaker 3: They understood shooting electricity up into the clouds is going
Speaker 3: to make a change or up into the skies. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I think that's like the reason I'm bringing that
Speaker 3: up is because I think that might be a little
Speaker 3: bit more high tech for that time than people.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were actually.
Speaker 3: Doing that by then, and like knew that that would
Speaker 3: change stuff. But uh yeah, I'm not going to really
Speaker 3: go into that one too much.
Speaker 1: The uh, the one thing though, why do I.
Speaker 3: Bernard Vonnaguet, I wanted to mention was the one who
Speaker 3: did this. Maybe some people might think that Vonnegut sounds familiar.
Speaker 3: Bernard Vonnegut was an American atmospheric scientist credited with discovering
Speaker 3: the silver iodide or iodide could be used effectively in
Speaker 3: cloud seating to produce snow and rain. He was the
Speaker 3: older brother of American novelist Kurt Vonnegut.
Speaker 2: Oh so, yeah, my name is And.
Speaker 3: Of course he started work in nineteen forty five at
Speaker 3: the General Electric Research Laboratory in Scheductity, New York.
Speaker 1: You couldn't leave New York out of this.
Speaker 2: Got to be in there somewhere.
Speaker 1: God, I always have to have some weird thing coming from.
Speaker 2: Is that upstate?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's going on is upstate? Everything weird is
Speaker 2: upstate New York.
Speaker 3: Yeah, only you have the Son of Sam was kind
Speaker 3: of like on the verge of going upstate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it.
Speaker 3: Probably like fifteen twenty minutes closer, he would have actually
Speaker 3: probably been considered like in the Five Boroughs, but next
Speaker 3: one and now I am covering covering some of the
Speaker 3: stuff from the UK. There's a UK patent application and
Speaker 3: the date of that is data filing December third, twenty ten,
Speaker 3: date lodged UH September one, twenty twelve. The applicants is
Speaker 3: Davidson Technology Limited, and the inventors are Peter Davidson, Hugh
Speaker 3: Edmund Murray Hunt and Christopher John Burgoyne. And the title
Speaker 3: of the invention Atmospheric Delivery System abstract title Method of
Speaker 3: Transporting Solid Particles having a refractive index greater than one
Speaker 3: point four.
Speaker 1: Into the atmosphere.
Speaker 3: So basically this thing pretty much is like a patent
Speaker 3: to like, I think, like drop stuff, And the present
Speaker 3: invention relates to a method for transporting and dispersing particles
Speaker 3: into the Earth at Earth's stratosphere.
Speaker 2: I think it's from ground particles.
Speaker 3: Up, particularly to achieve a global or local cooling effect.
Speaker 3: That's the main thing behind that summary of the invention. Thus,
Speaker 3: the invention relates to a method of transporting transporting solid
Speaker 3: particles having again the refractive index are greater than one
Speaker 3: point four the atmosphere. The method comprising transporting the particles
Speaker 3: via a conduit from a substantially ground level location to
Speaker 3: an elevated location and dispersing the particles into the atmosphere
Speaker 3: just like you said, uh, by transporting particles through a conduit,
Speaker 3: you know, saying thing all over again. The lifetime of
Speaker 3: such a cloud is largely determined by the rate of
Speaker 3: depletion of particles.
Speaker 1: From the cloud. So just edded that in there.
Speaker 2: Interesting. I think I had that one also, maybe as
Speaker 2: like an update, because I think mine was from two
Speaker 2: thousand and nine. What did you say yours was?
Speaker 3: Was the same, and it does use it does mention
Speaker 3: titanium dioxide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say that the carrier fluid that
Speaker 2: they used to like transport the particles up into the
Speaker 2: atmosphere was titanium dioxide, sodium chloride, and silicon.
Speaker 3: Yes, the only thing I think I did look those
Speaker 3: all up to the only thing that I found.
Speaker 1: Worth mentioning. I don't even think it was like anything horrible.
Speaker 3: Sunscreen and UV blocking pigments and cosmetic and skin care products.
Speaker 3: Titanium dioxide is used as a pigment sunscreen and as
Speaker 3: a pigment sunscreen and a thickener. So titanium dioxide is
Speaker 3: even used in sunscreen. So then there's another patent UK
Speaker 3: patent that is the data filing was fifteen four, two
Speaker 3: thousand and eight, so I gues say April fifteen, two
Speaker 3: thousand and eight. This one was by ser LLC And
Speaker 3: this is a high altitude atmospheric alteration system and method.
Speaker 1: The description here in generally.
Speaker 3: Relates to the field of high altitude conduits and high
Speaker 3: altitude structures capable of many applications including affecting changes.
Speaker 1: In the app atmosphere.
Speaker 2: So interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I did look up that Serit LLC.
Speaker 2: That was the company that did this, and what is
Speaker 2: that about?
Speaker 1: They?
Speaker 3: I looked up their patents because it was it was
Speaker 3: easy to find the patents that they've done.
Speaker 1: Then to find out really what else they do?
Speaker 3: System and method for nuclear fission reactor materials who Systems
Speaker 3: and Methods for brokering data products.
Speaker 1: And if somebody is like, what's.
Speaker 3: Brokering data products, it's exactly what it sounds like. It's
Speaker 3: selling your information to people that harass you with phone
Speaker 3: goals and emails. Systems and Methods for brokering data products.
Speaker 2: So they dabble in nuclear and data selling.
Speaker 3: Great compensation determination and data brokering arrangements.
Speaker 1: So I guess need to decide how much it's worth.
Speaker 3: Two system and Methods for monitoring data brokering arrangements. Subject
Speaker 3: material in delivery device. A method may include placing a
Speaker 3: first device on a first side of a skin portion.
Speaker 3: You already know where I'm going with that, So dermals
Speaker 3: putting something on your skin.
Speaker 1: And it absorbs it.
Speaker 3: Device System and method for controllably reducing inflammatory mediators in
Speaker 3: a subject. System and Methods for obtaining analytes from a body.
Speaker 1: And this is this is done through through the dermal layer.
Speaker 3: And receiving the ejection, and you know, the whatever it's
Speaker 3: being ejected from the skin, it can do that too.
Speaker 3: So being able to read stuff coming out of your
Speaker 3: skin and being able to put stuff into your skin.
Speaker 3: One of the people that was on that that last
Speaker 3: one that I did, Nathan merveled Rhu, formally chief Technology
Speaker 3: officer at Microsoft, is co founder of Intellectual Ventures and
Speaker 3: the principal author of Modernist Cuisine.
Speaker 1: So but basically this guy, I mean, he's at Microsoft.
Speaker 1: I just found that interesting too.
Speaker 3: Your Microsoft is involved, Your guy who's involved with Microsoft
Speaker 3: is involved with these patents.
Speaker 2: Surprising.
Speaker 3: Lowell Wood is an American astrophysicist who has been involved
Speaker 3: with the Strategic Defensive Initiative and with geoengineering studies. He
Speaker 3: has been affiliated with Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Hoover
Speaker 3: Institution and chaired the EMP Commission.
Speaker 1: There's just another person that I thought was rather interesting with.
Speaker 3: His connections, and he is a prolific inventor enlisted on
Speaker 3: one thousand, seven hundred and sixty one US patents as
Speaker 3: of August twenty first, two thousand and eighteen would passed
Speaker 3: Thomas Edison on June thirtieth in twenty fifteen, becoming the
Speaker 3: old time most prolific inventor from the United States based
Speaker 3: on the u of the issued US utility patents. So
Speaker 3: in the United States, this guy has the most patents
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: That's crazy political work.
Speaker 1: He's worked with global think tanks are global warming.
Speaker 2: Of course? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Lowell Elwood University of California, Physicist Member and Director's Technical Staff.
Speaker 3: Lowell Wood, PhD is an astrophysicist at the Lawrence Livermore
Speaker 3: National Laboratory. His research contributed to the international effort to
Speaker 3: achieve controlled themo nuclear fusion through the use of lasers
Speaker 3: He's developed, he's collaborated on development of X rayles.
Speaker 1: So this guy's Oh.
Speaker 3: He's best known for his role in design and development
Speaker 3: in early stage testing of space based defenses against ballistic
Speaker 3: missiles attack.
Speaker 1: His concept cold Brilliant.
Speaker 3: Pebbles was adopted by the Pentagon as the most technically act.
Speaker 1: Of missile defense proposals. Wow, yeah, you can look that up.
Speaker 3: He's he's come up with that. It almost reminded me
Speaker 3: like that shift from fucking Iron Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, in all this talk of like nuclear fission
Speaker 2: is reminded me of the series Dark, which I know
Speaker 2: our listener Eliza will Lisa Sorry, she'll appreciate that because
Speaker 2: he and I talk about that show all the time.
Speaker 3: Patents by inventor Christopher John Burgoyne Atmospheric Delivery System, high
Speaker 3: altitude Platform, high altitude Platform, high altitude platform, another high
Speaker 3: altitude platform, atmospheric delivery system.
Speaker 1: So I was just showing those guys. They all I
Speaker 1: thought they were all kind of interesting people too. Behind
Speaker 1: that pat Mary, I couldn't find much on that company,
Speaker 1: and that is the end of whatever I.
Speaker 3: Had to cover on patents, And now we have whatever
Speaker 3: Teresa looked into because we kind of we kind of
Speaker 3: came up with a bunch of patents and just split
Speaker 3: them up.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, on to yours.
Speaker 2: Well that's very interesting, thank you. Actually, it's funny because
Speaker 2: two of them that you covered irs.
Speaker 1: On may have happened with further ones.
Speaker 3: When I started noticing them refer back to other ones,
Speaker 3: I was like, she may end up getting stuck with
Speaker 3: ones that refer back to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it just speaks to the relevance
Speaker 2: of them because we probably both picked them out based
Speaker 2: on the titles, being like, oh, that seems like it
Speaker 2: would be relevant to the other things that we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about in the other episodes, right, So okay,
Speaker 2: so I have notes on a few that kind of
Speaker 2: stood out to me. So the first one is a
Speaker 2: patent for a method for dispersing natural atmospheric fogs and clouds.
Speaker 2: So again going back to the fogs. The inventor is
Speaker 2: Roger T. Stone, who I could not find much information
Speaker 2: on because Rogerstone. Yeah, so everything that comes up is about,
Speaker 2: you know, the more modern Roger Stone, like, h yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think they're the same person. So this patent
Speaker 2: was filed October thirteenth, nineteen fifty nine, and was filed
Speaker 2: by Finn Case. I don't know how you say, the
Speaker 2: Copnam Industry Tribby Limited, I don't know, in San Jose,
Speaker 2: Costa Rica. So I do think though it's an American patent.
Speaker 2: So basically, what it's about is dissolving alcohols into liquids
Speaker 2: so that they can maintain their liquids state under pressure
Speaker 2: in a sealed container, and then they would disperse the
Speaker 2: alcohol solution with the propellant into the air. So this
Speaker 2: is unlike the two more common methods of dispersing or
Speaker 2: cloud seating. So in this method, it's like the powder
Speaker 2: and the liquid is in two separate containers and then
Speaker 2: it gets shot out of the plane and it combines
Speaker 2: in the air, whereas before they would combine the powder
Speaker 2: and the liquid on the ground and then this cuts
Speaker 2: out like that whole labor process and then load that
Speaker 2: into the plane. So they just load the two separate things,
Speaker 2: the plane flies and it combines in the atmosphere basically.
Speaker 2: So the two other more common methods of cloud seating
Speaker 2: was solid carbon dioxide or silver iodide. But the pro
Speaker 2: of using this method with an alcohol solution is that
Speaker 2: it could be done at warmer temperatures and lower heights
Speaker 2: in the atmosphere because apparently for the silver iodide method
Speaker 2: and carbon dioxide method you have to be much higher
Speaker 2: up because you need a cold temperature.
Speaker 1: Gotcha okay, yes.
Speaker 2: So this massive water droplets method includes alcohols like syl alcohol,
Speaker 2: methyl propyl isoml tertiary beautile alcohols in a dispersed form,
Speaker 2: so obviously highly chemical.
Speaker 1: Shit, right, What was that againeen fifty nine?
Speaker 2: You said, yes, it was filed in fifty nine.
Speaker 1: What was the exact reasoning? What was it cold again?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Uh So the title of the pattern is method for
Speaker 2: dispersing natural atmosphere fogs and clouds. Yeah, so basically cloud seating.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you know that's old the ship in nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty nine still.
Speaker 2: To me, right, yeah, it is, so, you know.
Speaker 1: Imagine, and that's like a movement on something they've been doing.
Speaker 2: Already, right, yeah, exactly. So the next one that I
Speaker 2: had was a patent from October thirteenth, nineteen fifty eight,
Speaker 2: and it was approved in sixty one. The inventor is
Speaker 2: Louis d Utin, and it's a patent for insecticide dusting,
Speaker 2: a device that would be attached to a plane. So
Speaker 2: just showing that you know how insecticide dusting works. So
Speaker 2: this invention also would eliminate the labor process of combining
Speaker 2: the powder and the liquid on the ground. It also
Speaker 2: combines it in the air being projected out of a
Speaker 2: plane at low level flight.
Speaker 1: That's right. I was going to mention that before.
Speaker 3: I've been like, why didn't they actually combine it the
Speaker 3: first time too?
Speaker 1: Right, Well, yeah, I guess let's just get it going first.
Speaker 2: Apparently, So when I was reading some of the details
Speaker 2: of the patents. Apparently when they combine it on the
Speaker 2: ground first and then fly with the made solution, it
Speaker 2: can clog the pipes or ducks or whatever they used
Speaker 2: to like project it out of the plane. So apparently
Speaker 2: pumping them out separately is better. Gotcha to interesting, But yeah,
Speaker 2: there's just a quick one on that. I just found
Speaker 2: it interesting with like insecticide use all the way back
Speaker 2: to like nineteen sixty one, and then like does that
Speaker 2: relate to DDT and like polio outbreak.
Speaker 3: Is I mean it's I mean, that's even another thing. Honestly,
Speaker 3: even going back a while ago, probably within our lifetime,
Speaker 3: there has been stuff that was considered okay and now it.
Speaker 2: Is like you can't use it totally right now?
Speaker 1: How much it was being used in the past and
Speaker 1: for what?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, like now, you know, I think a big
Speaker 2: concern is quite estate, which is basically the same chemical
Speaker 2: as round up, like the weed killer, and they spray
Speaker 2: that shit on everything. So it's like, are these like
Speaker 2: you know, influx of allergies, skin conditions.
Speaker 3: It's like almost every thirty or forty years it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: this other pesticide is no good.
Speaker 2: Now, right, let's try this one.
Speaker 1: Oh yea, let's make this one years later. Oh that
Speaker 1: one was no good now too? Next?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well interesting me. I also watched a little bit
Speaker 2: of the Frankensky's documentary which is all about chemtrails and
Speaker 2: you know the company Monsanto, Right, so they have developed
Speaker 2: like seeds for aluminum resistant crops, so everyone else's crops
Speaker 2: won't grow as well, but there's will remain unaffected by
Speaker 2: all these pollutants and chemicals in the atmosphere. So it
Speaker 2: just went an application of this technology, right, another one
Speaker 2: that it had as a patent from nineteen sixty four.
Speaker 2: The inventor's name is Stuart L. Seaton, and it's a
Speaker 2: means for communicating through a layer of ionized gas. And
Speaker 2: this stuff I find really interesting because there's a couple
Speaker 2: patents like this that I found, And Okay, it's a
Speaker 2: little bit complex, so I'm just gonna read what I wrote.
Speaker 2: So this invention relates to the modulation of electromagnetic waves
Speaker 2: and commuting through communicating through a layer of ionized gases.
Speaker 2: So when space vehicles are traveling at hypersonic speed, which
Speaker 2: is mock ten or higher and enter or leave the
Speaker 2: planetary atmosphere, vehicle becomes surrounded by a layer of plasma
Speaker 2: that blocks or obstructs electromagnetic wave communication. This invention applies
Speaker 2: a modulated magnetic field to the layer of plasma to
Speaker 2: make measuring the conditions inside the layer of gas possible.
Speaker 2: It's a new way of modulating electromagnetic waves and communicating
Speaker 2: through ionized gases. So, I don't know, I found that
Speaker 2: interesting just relating to more like modern applications what we're
Speaker 2: seeing with maybe like increased electromagnetic frequency in our own life,
Speaker 2: and do they manipulate weather through that, you know, with
Speaker 2: like harp I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know that was interesting, and that electricity because I
Speaker 3: wanted to show that, like I don't know, like the electricity,
Speaker 3: and then like certain metals or chemicals that are in
Speaker 3: the air, Like does all that start like.
Speaker 1: Interacting with each other exactly.
Speaker 2: I think that's the whole purpose of it, you know,
Speaker 2: is to put these chemicals in the air so that
Speaker 2: they are able to interact with an electrical interface, almost.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So another one that they had is another rain maker.
Speaker 2: So you talked about a rain maker. I think this
Speaker 2: is a different patent. This is a little bit more
Speaker 2: modern one. I think yours was earlier. So this is
Speaker 2: from July twenty fifth, nineteen sixty from inventor Robert K.
Speaker 2: Jones in Walnut Creek, California. So it's a device that
Speaker 2: processes and produces rain. The device emulates nature in producing
Speaker 2: rainfall by reducing atmosphere pressure and temperature below the typical
Speaker 2: ambient temperature. It induces rain and the volume of air
Speaker 2: treated and creates a large seating area which increases the
Speaker 2: probability of inducing precipitation. So I find that interesting too,
Speaker 2: was like when you were talking about it also the
Speaker 2: rain making patterns that why do they not apply this
Speaker 2: to you know, say an area like California when they
Speaker 2: have like water shortages or like droughts. Why don't they
Speaker 2: apply this in Libya or like Syria where they have
Speaker 2: like hunger problem because they can't produce enough crops because
Speaker 2: it's too dry? You know, why don't they apply these
Speaker 2: things in a positive manner?
Speaker 3: Good point, because I really do think about it. If
Speaker 3: these things exist, why is there so many problems of
Speaker 3: other places?
Speaker 1: Though? Right from within this.
Speaker 2: Country, even just within the United States.
Speaker 1: These things exist and can fix those problems.
Speaker 2: Exactly, Like what is stopping you then from you know,
Speaker 2: helping your country out.
Speaker 1: Whereas maybe some of the horrible weather actually just those.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Oh man, okay, So another one I have is
Speaker 2: from January eleventh, nineteen sixty eight, so almost to the
Speaker 2: exact day. I think we're January twelfth today. So the
Speaker 2: two inventors are Mario di Grossi and Pietro py Lombardini
Speaker 2: to Italian dudes. And the current assignee of the patent
Speaker 2: is Raytheonco, which I actually didn't look into, but we should.
Speaker 2: So this pattern was about a means for generating and
Speaker 2: controlling an ionized cloud in the ionosphere. Again about transmit
Speaker 2: in communication signals directed at an ionized cloud, so the
Speaker 2: cloud would transmit and propagate communication signals within the ionospheric
Speaker 2: signal trapping the wavelength ducked that encircles the entire Earth.
Speaker 2: Dould I find that, like, yeah, apparently, so.
Speaker 1: They're they're like kind of like admitting in there that
Speaker 1: there's something that.
Speaker 2: That's interesting playing with like the ether.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm when to come up with I know they've
Speaker 3: I can't think of the name that sometimes they say
Speaker 3: is like I think of like this traveling air like
Speaker 3: the goldst Oh, they're saying that there's basically something they
Speaker 3: know of that actually circles the whole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess yeah, I mean we're not like you know, but.
Speaker 1: Is that like, could that just be like a lay
Speaker 1: line of energy?
Speaker 2: It could be, and like the ion a sphere, I
Speaker 2: must have an electrical charge, and so basically are they
Speaker 2: just like hacking into the electrical system of the Earth's
Speaker 2: atmosphere or whatever applications they want to use it for.
Speaker 2: It's very interesting, right, So I think that's that all
Speaker 2: I had for some American ones.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like that's like the secret and him when
Speaker 3: they say you can't keep stealing electric from the farmer.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's why.
Speaker 3: That's why she had to do what she had to do,
Speaker 3: because they had to you know. That was the reasoning
Speaker 3: behind everything was happening in that show, just because they
Speaker 3: had to stop stealing electric from the farmer.
Speaker 2: Interesting. You know what, I have actually never seen that interesting. Okay,
Speaker 2: I just have a few more if you want me.
Speaker 1: To keep going, keep going. Yeah, I've only been fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: I went for forty five.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're that was going quick. But it's all good.
Speaker 2: So was this one oh, this is the one you
Speaker 2: already covered, so I'm not going to talk about it.
Speaker 1: It was the.
Speaker 2: Process and apparatus for the production of intense artificial clouds,
Speaker 2: fogs and MISS. So intense fogs, clouds and miss that's
Speaker 2: what stay tuned for the next episode because we talk
Speaker 2: all about that. Uh oh yeah, this one, this is
Speaker 2: the most interesting one to me, okay, but it's super technical,
Speaker 2: so I'm just gonna read the abstract after I describe it.
Speaker 2: So this is a more modern pattern from January twelfth today,
Speaker 2: twenty ten, and it was filed in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 2: so it's an RFID Environmental manipulation inventi fi D is
Speaker 2: that like, yeah right, weird okay? And its inventor was
Speaker 2: James Neil Rogers from Langley, British Columbia, a Canadian, which
Speaker 2: I found interesting, and it does include aluminium oxide among things.
Speaker 2: But I'm just going to read some of the abstract
Speaker 2: because honestly, I don't know any other way to explain
Speaker 2: it other than I just read it to you. So
Speaker 2: it says a system and method to reduce signal to
Speaker 2: noise ratio within an RIFID enabled warehouse or distribution center
Speaker 2: by introducing highly reflective aluminum oxide particulate into the atmospheric
Speaker 2: environment of the warehouse or distribution center. The aluminum oxide
Speaker 2: will be compromised of nanosize particulate manufactured in an aerosol format.
Speaker 2: This particulate will be introduced into the environment through the
Speaker 2: auspices of the heating, ventilation and air conditioning mechanism associated
Speaker 2: with the environment. The levels of particulate will be monitored
Speaker 2: through the use of strategically placed sensors in order to
Speaker 2: maintain regulatory compliance. Furthermore, the signal to noise ratio will
Speaker 2: be enhanced by reducing ambient noise emanating from light fixtures
Speaker 2: in the environment through the strategic placement of inferential filters. Furthermore,
Speaker 2: the signal to noise ratio from man made sources will
Speaker 2: be reduced by using horizontally configured backscatter transmitting a TENNA
Speaker 2: within the environment at I don't even know exactly what
Speaker 2: that means, but it doesn't sound good to me with
Speaker 2: like the RFID situation concerning I would say, interestingly, also
Speaker 2: in some of our research, like the list that you
Speaker 2: and I were working off of for this, like you know,
Speaker 2: one hundred US weather patents or whatever. Some of the
Speaker 2: warm modern ones that I went through, from like the
Speaker 2: two thousands onwards, if you click on it to find
Speaker 2: out information about it, it's like a dead link. So
Speaker 2: I found that odd. I mean, you could probably pop
Speaker 2: the patent number into like a patent search and find
Speaker 2: out more, but I didn't have a ton of time
Speaker 2: to do that. But actually, I just save that link.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna leave the link in the bottoms or anybody
Speaker 3: wants to. Yeah, you want to patents, there's all. There's
Speaker 3: actually a few type of sites that you will actually find,
Speaker 3: like sites listing old weather patents.
Speaker 2: Totally. Just the one thing I wanted to say about
Speaker 2: the more modern patents is that they do get into
Speaker 2: more nanofibers nanotech. Like I wanna let me see if
Speaker 2: I can read off some titles of the patents here.
Speaker 2: One from year two thousand is for a solar powered airplane.
Speaker 2: I don't know how well that would work. Let's see. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So Process and Apparatus for the production of nanofibers Electrodynamic
Speaker 2: Particle size Analyzer. That's from two thousand and three. Method
Speaker 2: for extracting in sequestering carbon dioxide from two thousand and
Speaker 2: five probably climate change related the RFID environmental manipulation geoengineering
Speaker 2: method of business using carbon counterbalance credits from twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: So I found that interesting considering, you know, we may
Speaker 2: be moving toward a social credit type of system, and
Speaker 2: then the environment will be linked to that, climate change
Speaker 2: will be linked to that. On from February twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: charge seed cloud as a method for increasing particle collisions
Speaker 2: and for scavenging airborne biological agents and other contaminants.
Speaker 1: Contabinants.
Speaker 2: Pretty sure that's what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Now read that name off again.
Speaker 2: Okay, So from twenty thirteen, charge seed cloud as a
Speaker 2: method for racing particle collisions and for scavenging airborne biological
Speaker 2: agents and other contaminants.
Speaker 1: Wonderful.
Speaker 2: So scavenging would imply that they're trying to clean the atmosphere.
Speaker 2: I feel like would be to like gather the contaminants.
Speaker 2: But could you likewise spread the condaminants that you want?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: I don't know. So those are the American ones there are.
Speaker 2: There's one UK one that Helen had kindly sent us
Speaker 2: that I'll go over quick. So it's the UK patent
Speaker 2: from November thirteenth, two thousand and nine. The applicant is
Speaker 2: Rolls Royce PLC. And I don't know, is that like
Speaker 2: the same company as Rolls Royce, like the car Okay,
Speaker 2: So the inventor was Christopher Graham Bright. And it's about
Speaker 2: moisture dispersion. So it's this claim is to reduce moisture
Speaker 2: in the air with on trails of an aircraft freezes
Speaker 2: the water to form ice crystals by producing ions produced
Speaker 2: using microwaves, UV radiation, X rays, gamma rays, corpuscular radiation lasers,
Speaker 2: or by applying electrical potential to the air. So again,
Speaker 2: electricity in the air, playing with ions, this kind of thing.
Speaker 1: And now that was a UK one.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, around two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1: Do you know the name? What was the names on there?
Speaker 2: Again, there's only one name, Christopher Graham Bright and it
Speaker 2: was from Rollsworfs plc. Maybe you never know, yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. That's what I got about that.
Speaker 2: I just wonder always why, like if there's the potential
Speaker 2: to remove carbon dioxide, they say carbon dioxide is such
Speaker 2: a problem. Is there's a potential to remove that or
Speaker 2: remove contaminants.
Speaker 1: Oh, we're going to do it's just fly over fucking
Speaker 1: wuhan and we will have been.
Speaker 2: Okay then, right, yeah, could we have could we have
Speaker 2: prevented the spread of COVID nineteen just.
Speaker 3: Put planes up on the coasts and you know, catch
Speaker 3: it as it before it crosses into the border.
Speaker 2: Right. But if they if they know that, you know,
Speaker 2: contaminants are linked to certain illnesses, would they then use
Speaker 2: that knowledge to cause illnesses? Also? Right? That's my thing,
Speaker 2: that's my conclusion from the fun little exercise. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I just thought, uh, it was just really
Speaker 3: interesting looking into and seeing what's not conspiratorial and what's
Speaker 3: actually legit on paper, scientifically said, you know, patented, you
Speaker 3: know that they're admitting to actually being able to do
Speaker 3: when it comes to really I guess weather modification.
Speaker 1: And there is even other things that are on that.
Speaker 3: List, and I think you had mentioned it before. Some
Speaker 3: patterns are just like ways of helping planes, I guess.
Speaker 1: Disperse to do certain things that would help with the
Speaker 1: weather modification.
Speaker 2: You know, totally. Yeah, and even just a couple of
Speaker 2: things that I had learned from the franken Sky's documentary
Speaker 2: just to kind of like conclude, I guess, like they
Speaker 2: even created the first smoke screen in nineteen twenty three
Speaker 2: from the US Air Service. I'm sure some people have
Speaker 2: probably seen that clip rolling around on TikTok or Instagram,
Speaker 2: and it's like a plane flying and it's a very
Speaker 2: opaque like solid smoke screen comes across the ocean, and
Speaker 2: it can literally just like camouflage like a whole fleet
Speaker 2: of ships if they wanted to write. There's also been
Speaker 2: like Project Serious, Project Cumulus, Project Skyfire, Project Skywater, project
Speaker 2: Storm Fury, like these are whether manipulation projects from the
Speaker 2: government that are not a conspiracy.
Speaker 3: Me and you even mentioned that at one point. I
Speaker 3: think one of us was probably you who had mentioned.
Speaker 3: I think there was like I came across something where
Speaker 3: they were saying that they can even disguise like ships
Speaker 3: out and sea and stuff with like, yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that there's a couple theories on that, and
Speaker 2: a couple almost like urban legend type of theories about that,
Speaker 2: but apparently it is possible. And there's even like Project Popeye,
Speaker 2: which are from nineteen sixty six to seventy two, which
Speaker 2: is all about weather warfare, so manipulating, you know, whether
Speaker 2: against the enemy, and I'm pretty sure they probably experimented
Speaker 2: on that a bit in Vietnam War too.
Speaker 3: See, and this will even almost kind of go back
Speaker 3: to what I was mentioning in the beginning. You have
Speaker 3: somebody who has this idea. Now, regardless if it was
Speaker 3: for positive negative, or just.
Speaker 1: The fact that this is doable.
Speaker 3: It came up with something, and then the government is like, oh,
Speaker 3: this might help with the Department of Agriculture, right, you know,
Speaker 3: to help in a positive way, So we'll fund you
Speaker 3: since you're smart enough to come up with this and
Speaker 3: figure it out, so now you can make that thing real.
Speaker 3: And then now since that exists, we're going to use
Speaker 3: this on that country and do something else exactly, Like
Speaker 3: is it all really like we're just funding scientists to
Speaker 3: create shit that we want to use for a different
Speaker 3: reasons somewhere else. Yeah, Well, so that it's like a way
Speaker 3: of privatize, Like it's like really a version of musk.
Speaker 1: Totally privatize the.
Speaker 3: Person a worker for the government now because you're getting
Speaker 3: funded by them to make this invention.
Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, you know. And even like harp technology aha
Speaker 2: a RP it uses frequency to manipulate the weather. So
Speaker 2: that's why like the ionization and stuff like really struck
Speaker 2: me as interesting like how far back those patterns go
Speaker 2: because they have like with harp like elf wave transmitters,
Speaker 2: which is linked to chemtrails. So this ties into like
Speaker 2: the climate change agenda as well.
Speaker 1: Gotcha.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like the US military was even quoted as
Speaker 2: saying they wanted to control and own the weather by
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, so we're only two years away from that.
Speaker 3: Well, they have patents messing with it since s eeteen
Speaker 3: ninety one, so they might be well on their way.
Speaker 2: Well on their way exactly. Yeah, Apparently the chemtrails purpose
Speaker 2: mostly is to help the patterns and vibrational structures that
Speaker 2: control the weather. So the substances and toxins that can
Speaker 2: conduct whatever they want to do up in the atmosphere.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Yeah, And like I did mention before, I
Speaker 3: don't know, and even if I read them, I probably
Speaker 3: wouldn't have known, Like was what there was definitely stuff
Speaker 3: again that popped up as toxic. I don't know if
Speaker 3: the levels being used was toxic, but it was something
Speaker 3: that came up.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I'm sure you know, all these things
Speaker 2: have accumulative effect over time. If they've been spraying you
Speaker 2: know this noticeably, I'm sure they've been spraying us for
Speaker 2: a long time subtly, but the last few years it's
Speaker 2: pretty undeniable. You know, if you just look up and
Speaker 2: observe the sky, it's not the same as when we
Speaker 2: were kids, I would say. So, I'm sure this has
Speaker 2: a cumulative effect and that's why maybe you know, linked
Speaker 2: to seeing the rise of dementia and autism and all
Speaker 2: sorts of other things, because our body is not equipped
Speaker 2: to handle in this amount.
Speaker 3: Very well said h Well, thank you very much for
Speaker 3: covering this topic with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I thought it was very informative. It
Speaker 3: wasn't as much I mean, I guess there's a conspiracy
Speaker 3: to It wasn't as much a cult or you know,
Speaker 3: magic or all that stuff. But I just thought it's
Speaker 3: just something very interesting that people should know. You know,
Speaker 3: we have a lot of conspiracy theorists being deemed nuts
Speaker 3: thinking that this stuff is happening.
Speaker 1: But yet okay, there's actually proof that it can be done.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, and there's hope for anyone out there.
Speaker 2: Like even my dad, who is a pilot himself, didn't
Speaker 2: believe six months ago that chemtrails were a thing, and
Speaker 2: now he's like, oh, I see it's not a contrail.
Speaker 2: I see the difference now. So if my parents can
Speaker 2: do it, anyone realizs it, you know, And I really.
Speaker 3: Do think just going forward with the other shows coming
Speaker 3: out this will you know some of these things may
Speaker 3: tied into that or just to make you wonder, does
Speaker 3: that have anything that they covered with the patents have.
Speaker 1: To do with this? You know, I thought it was
Speaker 1: all It all went together in.
Speaker 2: A way, totally ties together.
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