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Speaker 4: All Right, Well, tonight I was going to talk about
Speaker 4: the hippie movement in the sixties and what was the
Speaker 4: real driving force behind it and the modern movement of Satanism.
Speaker 4: Was it actually did it actually start during the eighties
Speaker 4: under the Satanic panic thing that happened at that time.
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm going to be talking about tonight
Speaker 4: to get started. A lot of people believe that the
Speaker 4: hippie movement in the sixties was about peace, it was
Speaker 4: about love, it was about it was a good time,
Speaker 4: and so forth. And as I researched this and studied it,
Speaker 4: the hippie movement is actually rooted in something a lot
Speaker 4: darker than what a lot of people really And the
Speaker 4: music back then, although I enjoyed I enjoyed a lot
Speaker 4: of the bands back then, it wasn't just innocent, rebellious
Speaker 4: rock and roll. There was a darker element to it.
Speaker 4: And again this goes back to what the driving force
Speaker 4: was behind the hippie movement. And so what I'd like
Speaker 4: to start with is a church. Well it was called
Speaker 4: it was called a church. It wasn't actually church as
Speaker 4: we understand it, but it was a church so to speak,
Speaker 4: in San Francisco that opened up April thirty, nineteen sixty six,
Speaker 4: and its founder was a man by the name of
Speaker 4: Anton Levy. Now that if that name sounds familiar, it should.
Speaker 5: This was the guy who spearheaded Satanism in America, and he,
Speaker 5: believe it or not, he had a huge influence in
Speaker 5: the culture of the hippie movement and a lot of
Speaker 5: the music.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, brother Steve, I don't know
Speaker 4: if you remember Anton Levey and the church, the first
Speaker 4: Church of Satan from San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard the stories and read a lot of
Speaker 2: the what all went on there in that area. And
Speaker 2: I've been out to San Francisco. I've spoken at you
Speaker 2: have OO conference out there a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: and I actually drove by the house there where the
Speaker 2: church started.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Okay, Well, Anton Levy started the Satanic movement
Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty six. Now what we have to understand
Speaker 4: is they portray they portray themselves as atheist, as an
Speaker 4: atheist movement, and the fact is it is not. It
Speaker 4: is not an atheist movement and its roots are not
Speaker 4: from an atheist source. Anton LaVey was an avid student
Speaker 4: of Alistair Crowley, who was the founder or I don't
Speaker 4: know if i'd say founder, but the rebirther of Satanism
Speaker 4: in the modern Error back in the late eighteen hundred.
Speaker 4: He was also he was also a student of Witchcraft.
Speaker 4: He was a student of Kabbalah and other sorts of mysticisms,
Speaker 4: and the Satanism that he taught is exactly that. It
Speaker 4: is a belief in a literal Satan. Now, again, when
Speaker 4: you listen to his interviews, if you talk to people
Speaker 4: that are affiliated even today, that are affiliated with the
Speaker 4: Church of Satan, they will tell you we are atheists,
Speaker 4: we don't believe in anything, and that's not true. That
Speaker 4: is not true. There's an old saying, if you claim
Speaker 4: you don't believe in nothing, you actually believe in something.
Speaker 4: And how true that is. I don't know the specifics
Speaker 4: of several of the rituals they would do, the incantations
Speaker 4: they would read and such. I and to tell you
Speaker 4: the truth, as the Word of God tells us not
Speaker 4: to learn those ways. So I don't want to know,
Speaker 4: but I do know from little bits of recordings of
Speaker 4: some of those services, everything is followed with pale Satan. Now,
Speaker 4: if you're an atheist and you don't believe in God
Speaker 4: and you don't believe in the devil, then why why
Speaker 4: are you hailing Satan?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that would make absolutely no sense. And I
Speaker 2: wanted to preface what I said earlier. The house is
Speaker 2: no longer there. It was demolished like the early two thousands.
Speaker 2: But I've been to that address, which was on California Street,
Speaker 2: and if you remember, the Eagles had a song about
Speaker 2: the Hotel California, California yeah, and then the cover of
Speaker 2: that or the thing's on the back of the gatefold.
Speaker 2: There's a man that looks suspiciously like Anton LaVey standing there.
Speaker 2: So that's supposedly the Hotel California was the Church of
Speaker 2: Satan there on California Street in San Francisco, So you
Speaker 2: can check in any time you like, but you can
Speaker 2: never leave. I think that the Eagles were singing about
Speaker 2: the Anton LaVey and Satanism and sort of a backwards,
Speaker 2: left handed compliment to him.
Speaker 4: If you will, it would not shock me.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think there's a pizzas.
Speaker 2: Or something there now. But the house is gone. It
Speaker 2: was painted black as a Victorian looking house that built
Speaker 2: in nineteen oh five was painted black. But yeah, it's
Speaker 2: long gone. But the address, I've been to the address,
Speaker 2: but to the house itself's not there.
Speaker 4: I went to San Francisco when I was a kid, uh,
Speaker 4: with my mom and sister. I'm just I wonder if
Speaker 4: we ever drove past it or.
Speaker 2: Or when right there on the edge of the presidio,
Speaker 2: and I think that's the I want to say, the
Speaker 2: Richmond District, I believe.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, and as far as Anton Levey being on the
Speaker 4: cover of a hotel California. It wouldn't shock me how
Speaker 4: many bands, how many bands had UH had pictures of
Speaker 4: Aleister Crowley either playing in the open or kind of
Speaker 4: encrypted on it, So it wouldn't it definitely would not
Speaker 4: shock me. I I still debate people that are Eagles
Speaker 4: fans that go, no, no, no, no, it was all
Speaker 4: it was all about cocaine addiction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was in there too, but I think that
Speaker 2: was it was a Satanic stuff. And then you know
Speaker 2: that some of their other songs, Witchy Woman and things
Speaker 2: like that, I think the Eagles were were kind of
Speaker 2: hinting at witchcraft and satanismen things. Had a lot of
Speaker 2: bands where it was kind of more hidden back then.
Speaker 2: That was in the seventies on, prior to the Satanic
Speaker 2: panic and backwards masking coming to the fore and a
Speaker 2: lot of it being more exposed. Light shined on it.
Speaker 2: But it's there, especially if you know what to look for.
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely. Now what's interesting is for the longest time,
Speaker 4: and there's still a lot of people that believe that
Speaker 4: Black Sabbath was the UH, was the foundation to UH
Speaker 4: to the occult and the occult and darkness and satan
Speaker 4: into music. I don't think it was as a matter
Speaker 4: of fact, as a matter of fact, Black Sabbath, and
Speaker 4: I could be wrong. For the record, I could be wrong,
Speaker 4: but I don't think back Black Sabbath was the originator
Speaker 4: of that in rock music. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 4: I think it's possible that Black Sabbath may have borrowed
Speaker 4: extensively from a group that predated it. And the band
Speaker 4: that I'm referring to is a band called Covin back
Speaker 4: in nineteen sixty seven, and they were hardcore.
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people may have heard of
Speaker 2: them and they didn't know it. If you've ever seen
Speaker 2: the Billy Jack movies, they had one ten Soldier, which
Speaker 2: they had a top ten hit with. But if you
Speaker 2: look back at some of their other stuff, they've got
Speaker 2: an either a song or an album called Black Sabbath,
Speaker 2: Dignitaries of Hell, Satanic Mass packed with Lucifer. These guys
Speaker 2: were hardcore. They make Sabbath literally look like a Sunday
Speaker 2: School picnic.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, you know. I recently I saw a video
Speaker 4: and I guess the best way to describe this guy
Speaker 4: was a heavy metal apologist and he was defending them
Speaker 4: and saying oh no, no, no, you see this was
Speaker 4: just for show. This is what's sold well. The fact
Speaker 4: is Covin didn't sell too well. They didn't sell too well,
Speaker 4: but I believe they laid a foundation. They laid a
Speaker 4: foundation for such groups as Black Sabbath and led Zeppelin.
Speaker 4: And going back to what I've said before, I don't
Speaker 4: think Sabbath is as original in the macabre as a
Speaker 4: lot of people believe. For example, and you just pointed
Speaker 4: this out, one of their songs on the Witchcraft album
Speaker 4: of Covin is Black Sabbath. One of their band member's
Speaker 4: name is oz Osbourne.
Speaker 2: Yep. A lot of coincidences there, too much to be coincidence.
Speaker 2: And you see your screens there. I've got a cover
Speaker 2: of the album and it's I mean, they don't make
Speaker 2: any uh, they don't pull any punches there. They they're
Speaker 2: they're really into what they're doing.
Speaker 4: Well, And I can't help but to wonder because of
Speaker 4: the timing. Anton LaVey's church opened up April thirty, nineteen
Speaker 4: sixty six. This band came out of Chicago, Illinois, nineteen
Speaker 4: sixty seven, and I look at that album cover and
Speaker 4: now this heavy little apologist was saying oh no, this
Speaker 4: was just for shock. This was for just effect, a
Speaker 4: selling effect. And that album cover says a whole different story.
Speaker 4: I mean everything from the inverted crosses to the skull
Speaker 4: to the pentagrams. And if you listen, if you listen
Speaker 4: to some of their stuff, it is it is very
Speaker 4: dark now. It's it has that typicals, that typical sixties
Speaker 4: sixties version of horror sound to it. If I had
Speaker 4: to describe it, I would say, I would say, you
Speaker 4: take the B fifty twos material in the late seventies
Speaker 4: and bend it out of tune. And that's to me,
Speaker 4: that's what That's what Covin sounded like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's an apt analogy or comparison.
Speaker 4: And again, looking at the album cover and just and
Speaker 4: just reading a lot of information on them, I disagree
Speaker 4: with that heavy metal apologist. I think with this group,
Speaker 4: what you saw in concert and what you saw on
Speaker 4: that album cover, and what you hear in their songs
Speaker 4: and especially in the titles, I think that's what they
Speaker 4: I think that's what they are, not just in studio,
Speaker 4: not just on stage, but offstage and in their personal lives.
Speaker 4: And again I'm looking at them, and I'm looking at
Speaker 4: a lot of the pictures from from Levey and Church
Speaker 4: of Satan, and Uh, I can't help but conclude that
Speaker 4: they were heavily influenced by Levey and if and and
Speaker 4: if not, they were definitely they were definitely uh, studiers
Speaker 4: of Alister Crowley. I mean that just the just the
Speaker 4: songs on the Witchcraft album alone.
Speaker 1: Is not.
Speaker 4: Is not shock and lore uh songs. I mean those
Speaker 4: are just listening to the lyrics and just just the
Speaker 4: title of the songs alone tells me this, this is
Speaker 4: what is truly end them, This is what they believe.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: It's not just show Satanism in those songs or in
Speaker 4: the titles. I mean, this is actual vocabulary and understanding
Speaker 4: of truly of what Satanism is in the contents of
Speaker 4: the songs. I mean, that's that's me, but that's what
Speaker 4: I got. And again I think I think Coven set
Speaker 4: the stage especially for especially for Black Sabbath, Rainbow, Led Zeppelin,
Speaker 4: Uriah Heap. I really do think, and I can see
Speaker 4: the influence of Coven in those bands. Again, maybe that's
Speaker 4: just me, but I could see it and I could
Speaker 4: hear it, especially with Black Sabbath. I want to take
Speaker 4: a look at something else that was also kind of
Speaker 4: a driving force in the culture of the late sixties
Speaker 4: and early seventies, Kevin Anger, Kenneth Anger, and I don't
Speaker 4: know if you remember the movie Lucifer Rising, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Had Bobby Boussela in it. And I think it's also
Speaker 2: had something to do with Jimmy Page. He was involved
Speaker 2: in that project, or Mick Jagger. That might have been
Speaker 2: invocation of my demon brother, but he was into some dark,
Speaker 2: dark stuff, wrote a very infamous book called Hollywood Babylon.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It also turns out too that Kenneth Anger and
Speaker 4: Anton LeVay also worked together on a couple of books
Speaker 4: and some other stuff. So again, Satanism, I think the
Speaker 4: satanic movement in pop culture was definitely was definitely more
Speaker 4: rooted in the sixties than it was in the eighties.
Speaker 4: I think eighties the Satanic panic was a carry on
Speaker 4: from it.
Speaker 3: But I think.
Speaker 4: Satanism and music, Satanism and entertainment, I think took its
Speaker 4: roots and opened its doors for business in the sixties.
Speaker 4: And you know, again, I still get arguments from people
Speaker 4: that know the hippie movement had nothing to do with that. Well,
Speaker 4: the symbols, the symbolism certainly certainly matched. But I want
Speaker 4: to take a look at both both ideologies at their core.
Speaker 4: One in both Satanism and the hippie movement was rebellion.
Speaker 4: It was rebellion against established order. It was rebellion. It
Speaker 4: was rebellion against traditional Judeo Christianity. It was rebellion against
Speaker 4: old conservative values, family and such. And it was all about,
Speaker 4: if you're not harming anyone, do what you want and
Speaker 4: you shouldn't have any restriction on it. And that is
Speaker 4: that message is very prevalent in Anton LaVey's Satanic Bible.
Speaker 4: That message was very prevalent in the Hippie movement. And
Speaker 4: let's think about this for just one second. Do what
Speaker 4: you want as what makes you happy. Is there a
Speaker 4: saying that that coincides with what about Alistair Crowley in
Speaker 4: the Book of Thelma Do what thou wilt?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the hip.
Speaker 2: And do what thou will shall be the whole of
Speaker 2: the law. There you go. It's the same thing, the
Speaker 2: same exact thing.
Speaker 4: And I don't I don't think a lot a lot
Speaker 4: of people back then or now realize that was the
Speaker 4: foundation of the hippie movement. Now, granted, the hippies may
Speaker 4: have removed the devil horns, the pitchfork, uh, they may
Speaker 4: have replaced they may have replaced the upside down pentagram
Speaker 4: with the peace emblem, but it's the same thing. And
Speaker 4: by the way, the peace emblem itself is actually a
Speaker 4: Satanic an occultic symbol, which I don't know if a
Speaker 4: lot of people realize. But again, the core of all
Speaker 4: of it, both the hippie movement and Satanism, it is
Speaker 4: a rebellion against traditional Judaeo Christianity. Ultimately, it is a
Speaker 4: rebellion against God because they're master. Their God is Satan
Speaker 4: and Satan is the absolute mockery opposite of God. Everything
Speaker 4: about Satanism is and is in opposition to God. For example,
Speaker 4: Satanism involves heavily involves mysticism, It involves spirit conjuring, it
Speaker 4: involves fortune telling, it involves it involves the practice of
Speaker 4: both white and black magic. It incorporates all of that
Speaker 4: into into its rituals, into its worship style, and into
Speaker 4: its practice. And every one of those things is an
Speaker 4: absolute opposite. It's absolutely opposite of scripture of God. And
Speaker 4: let's take a look at as a matter of fact,
Speaker 4: let's take a look at that. For example, going to
Speaker 4: the book of Leviticus Leviticus, which is actually via Gras
Speaker 4: in its original Hebrew title Leviticus nineteen, in Leviticus twenty
Speaker 4: Leviticus nineteen and verse thirty one, and it says, regard
Speaker 4: not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards
Speaker 4: to be defiled by them. I am the Lord your God.
Speaker 4: This is a law. This is a commandment against almost
Speaker 4: every aspect of practice in Satanism. Anton LeVay. Anton Levy
Speaker 4: himself was a magician. He was not just a music
Speaker 4: He wasn't just a musician, but he was also a magician.
Speaker 3: He also sorry, well, go ahead, wasn't he historically when
Speaker 3: I write about him, I think this conversation for wasn't
Speaker 3: he part of part of Cabala too as well?
Speaker 4: Uh? I would I would say yes, I never read
Speaker 4: that specifically. However, if you look on the symbol of
Speaker 4: the Satanic Church, it has the upside down pentagram, and
Speaker 4: around the pentagram is at at each point of the
Speaker 4: pentagram is a Hebrew letter, and that that is Kabbala.
Speaker 4: So I would I would definitely say that he was
Speaker 4: he was involved in Kabbala, but also again looking at
Speaker 4: some of the rituals and practice is and some other
Speaker 4: stuff I had researched, Kabbala is incorporated in the Satanic
Speaker 4: belief system.
Speaker 3: Because because what I what I noticed about the pentagram,
Speaker 3: and quote me if I'm wrong, I don't really know
Speaker 3: much about it. If you look at the pentagram, it
Speaker 3: has the all of the olive top all, it has
Speaker 3: the Hebraic letters with the star. Because I also noticed
Speaker 3: that being used in Kabbala as well. I've seen that
Speaker 3: on various books and stuff too.
Speaker 4: Yes, and that, and and that's why I definitely would
Speaker 4: say that Levey's Satanism did borrow heavily from kabbala and
Speaker 4: as well as other things. But again, the core and
Speaker 4: the purpose of Satanism is to oppose God, and as
Speaker 4: Leviticus nineteen thirty one makes very clear, God absolutely forbids
Speaker 4: the practice of conjuring the practice of spirit communication, and
Speaker 4: he even goes as he even goes further and says
Speaker 4: it's defiling, that one should not practice it because it's defiling.
Speaker 4: It's it's spiritually defiling. And again, what makes up a
Speaker 4: lot of the practice of satanism, and not just Leavey's
Speaker 4: Satanism we're also talking Alister Crowley's Satanism magic prediction, predicting, uh, conjuring,
Speaker 4: and again God absolutely forbids those things and those practices.
Speaker 4: So I would definitely say Satanism is to oppose God
Speaker 4: or anything that is holy. And looking at the timing,
Speaker 4: looking at the timing of Levey in his church, and
Speaker 4: looking at the culture and the movement at that time,
Speaker 4: that Satanism had a very heavy influence in the hippie movement,
Speaker 4: a very heavy influence in it. And it definitely the
Speaker 4: imagery alone of Satanism definitely laid a foundation for heavy
Speaker 4: metal a little bit later on, and especially with groups
Speaker 4: like Black Sabbath and led Zeppel and Rainbow. Anyone, uh,
Speaker 4: anyone want to add to that?
Speaker 3: I get go ahead, I'm sorry, go go ahead, Josh.
Speaker 3: I think what's interesting about it? You know, you see
Speaker 3: how it's implemented through the music and how like the
Speaker 3: generations past looked at it. But you see, like the
Speaker 3: various music.
Speaker 4: Now is.
Speaker 3: Like your your household names. Kids are listening to it
Speaker 3: like they'd be listening to a lot of your fifties
Speaker 3: music and the same messages that are going through and
Speaker 3: then you see implements of it being used even in
Speaker 3: the military. I mean, it's like Wika, Satanism and those
Speaker 3: things are very prevalent in the military, and you see
Speaker 3: you see those teachings coming through multiple facets as well.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's very very interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was going to point out how the uh,
Speaker 2: the music scene that was going on in southern California,
Speaker 2: you know, apart from what was going on in San
Speaker 2: Francisco Jefferson Airplane and then bands like that They're Grateful Dead,
Speaker 2: but you go down south into the la that area
Speaker 2: around the same time, uh, things were kicking off in
Speaker 2: southern California, and a lot of the stuff that was
Speaker 2: going on in Laurel Canyon has been well documented. Dave
Speaker 2: McGowan wrote a very very good book called Weird Scenes
Speaker 2: Inside the Canyon that talked about all this high weirdness
Speaker 2: that was going on in Laurel Canyon that that it's
Speaker 2: kind of secretly I think steeped in Satanism and particularly
Speaker 2: odd behavior and a lot of things going on, and
Speaker 2: he kind of hints or outright says that there's an
Speaker 2: involvement from the military industrial complex. I mean, you have
Speaker 2: Jim Morrison who was, you know, the singer for the
Speaker 2: Doors and kind of the leader of that movement. Well,
Speaker 2: his dad was I think an admiral in the Navy.
Speaker 2: There's a picture of young Jim on the bridge of
Speaker 2: his dad's battleship, and then just a few years later
Speaker 2: here he is with long hair and leading the hippie
Speaker 2: movement out under the whiskey of Go go in places
Speaker 2: like that. Same with Frank Zappa, the Mamas and the Papas,
Speaker 2: a lot of these bands that were a big part
Speaker 2: of that, they just all of a sudden happened to
Speaker 2: be in this one place. And just about every single
Speaker 2: one of those our children of parents that were somehow
Speaker 2: involved in the military industrial complex. Very very interesting. David
Speaker 2: McGowan makes a lot of interesting points, and again it's
Speaker 2: just too much to be coincidence with what he found out.
Speaker 2: We can do a whole show just on BRL Canyon.
Speaker 3: Well you were you're speaking to that. I send us
Speaker 3: to Brother Eric John Lennon and ill for you if
Speaker 3: you want to take a look at it. Well, what's
Speaker 3: interesting a lot of these guys they will talk about
Speaker 3: their activity. You know what John Lennon was talking about
Speaker 3: in England he was. He said he would see UFOs
Speaker 3: flying around his house.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: He even talked about what an interview you had, which
Speaker 3: it was never disclosed, talked about where he saw a
Speaker 3: one of those black footballs flying around as his property
Speaker 3: and would follow him around. And you see, and I
Speaker 3: don't think it is a connection. I think that it
Speaker 3: is part of it with the military industrial complex and
Speaker 3: the stuff that's coming out today talking about how there's
Speaker 3: always a connection with people being taken up through the
Speaker 3: occult Luigi boards and those type of things being teleported
Speaker 3: being taken away, and Satanism is the foundation, pivotal part
Speaker 3: of that as well, because like brother he says Satanism
Speaker 3: against God that at violates Leviticus nineteen at bolicet Deuteronomy
Speaker 3: eighteen because they believe that this lie. There's this concept
Speaker 3: of do what you want to do. It's everything about
Speaker 3: it we're and we're seeing today. We're seeing generations of
Speaker 3: this teaching and stuff, and now the generations are reaping
Speaker 3: of that teaching and what's going on today and how
Speaker 3: crazy society is as well.
Speaker 4: Well. I what's really what's really interesting is I I
Speaker 4: grew up not too far from Laurel canon.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 4: I spent the first little part of my life in
Speaker 4: UH in Seami Valley, and I remember because I used
Speaker 4: I used to UH my friends and I used to
Speaker 4: go hiking up and around the Santa Susanna Mountains and
Speaker 4: Stony Point, and I remember several times, several times hiking
Speaker 4: up there along certain trails and stuff you would see.
Speaker 7: UH.
Speaker 4: You would see spray spray paintings, ray can paintings of pentagrams,
Speaker 4: of inverted crosses, and and a lot of different little
Speaker 4: Satanic symbolisms along with you know, the UH band graffiti
Speaker 4: and stuff. But I remember seeing a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 4: I lived. I lived near where the where the Manson
Speaker 4: ranch was. And it's not it's not a secret. Charles
Speaker 4: Manson was very heavily stooped into Satanism. And I definitely
Speaker 4: agree with you, brother Steve. Laurel Canyon, and it can
Speaker 4: be it can definitely be a be an entire show
Speaker 4: alone discussing Laurel Canyon. Yeah, and and and and it's
Speaker 4: not just in Leviticus, and it's not just in Deuteronomy
Speaker 4: that warns that warns against the cultic practice. I want
Speaker 4: to take a look real quick in Ephesians four Aphensians four.
Speaker 4: And take a look and take a look at what
Speaker 4: verse twenty seven is. Now, it's just one sentence, but
Speaker 4: it makes it clear neither give place to the devil.
Speaker 4: Back in the Torah, it says, it not only gives
Speaker 4: a command not to practice Satanism, it also gives the
Speaker 4: command don't learn about it. In fact, that was the
Speaker 4: Tora portion last night that I preached on. Don't inquire
Speaker 4: about it, don't learn the practices. Specifically why because, as
Speaker 4: Leviticus nineteen points out, it's defiling. It is spiritually defiling.
Speaker 4: And the reason why it's spiritually defiling is because every
Speaker 4: bit of the practices of Satanism is in opposition to God.
Speaker 4: It's in opposition to a holy, righteous, and just God.
Speaker 4: And that's why God makes it very clear.
Speaker 3: And also too, when people, people who come out of
Speaker 3: it and become believers, were first hand experience of it,
Speaker 3: those things will come at you. They come at you,
Speaker 3: and they don't want to let go, and they will.
Speaker 3: You are a marked person when you go into that
Speaker 3: stuff because to them, speaking to people that we've known
Speaker 3: that we're in the witchcraft and stuff, you are locked
Speaker 3: in covenant with them. You are locked in, you formed
Speaker 3: some blood pack with them or something, and they take
Speaker 3: that stuff seriously, and those entities will follow you, they
Speaker 3: will take control of you, and they have it.
Speaker 6: And it even becomes.
Speaker 3: Harder when they a person becomes a believer because then
Speaker 3: because here's some of these testimonies. These testimonis are like, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I came to know the Lord, you know, and once
Speaker 3: I casted it out and went away, or once this happened,
Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. And that's never the case,
Speaker 3: because they come harder at the people that become believers
Speaker 3: because now they know the practices of the enemy and
Speaker 3: they actually have a very stronger form of discernment where
Speaker 3: they can walk in and smell it. With me and
Speaker 3: my wife, we went to we were at a fair
Speaker 3: appare in Alaska, and we had had an opportunity minister
Speaker 3: to a guy that was talking about Bigfoot and all this,
Speaker 3: and the biggest thing that he said was is that
Speaker 3: he grew up in Alaska and he grew up in
Speaker 3: a lot of the tribes and stuff. But where he
Speaker 3: really started knowing more about this stuff is when he
Speaker 3: started engaging in the paranormal to write his books and stuff,
Speaker 3: and even said as we were talking to even say
Speaker 3: that these things would come to his bedroom and would
Speaker 3: tell him what to write and how to write it.
Speaker 3: So basically, there is that pact. Even within Satanism, there's
Speaker 3: that pact that they have where they'll come and whatever
Speaker 3: you're doing. It's like they'll give you the information, but
Speaker 3: in the end there's something that you give to them
Speaker 3: and return. And once they're locked in, they're locked in.
Speaker 3: And once they become a believer that the Lord cancels
Speaker 3: all all that stuff because he died upon the cross.
Speaker 3: But they try to come at their life and make
Speaker 3: it that much harder. And that's why even when you
Speaker 3: get in the midst of it, they will not let
Speaker 3: you go, and you definitely don't want to study. I
Speaker 3: think it was who was it that played Dracula? He
Speaker 3: he was in his nineties. You don't talking about Brother Eric.
Speaker 3: He was the other? Uh huh? Who was? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think a fella Lagos or Boris Karloff.
Speaker 3: Christopher Lee. Christopher Lee. He was asked the question. He
Speaker 3: talked about books and stuff, but he said, once you
Speaker 3: enter and you and you can quote it, he said
Speaker 3: it online. Once you enter into black magic, or you
Speaker 3: start studying the dark occult. You lose your soul in it.
Speaker 3: And it's so true. You lose your soul in this
Speaker 3: and that's the price that you pay. Is when you
Speaker 3: enter this stuff, you sell your soul. You you change,
Speaker 3: you become, You become whatever they want you to be.
Speaker 3: There was a there's a famous sub monster and that
Speaker 3: and I remember from the Ghostbusters back in the eighties
Speaker 3: and what you talk about it. It was a great cartoon
Speaker 3: or whatever. But there there's a legend about it about
Speaker 3: a creature that it prays after children and when you you,
Speaker 3: it comes to you and it usually will pray on
Speaker 3: people who are very very lonely isolated, and the creature
Speaker 3: will come to you and will say, hey, I'll be
Speaker 3: your friend or whatever. And eventually what happens is as
Speaker 3: it takes over, it sucks, it sucks the life out
Speaker 3: of you, and you become the creature. That's kind of
Speaker 3: what that's kind of what it does with the with
Speaker 3: the fact of satanism and witchcraft is you become what
Speaker 3: the demonic spirit wants you to be. As you violated,
Speaker 3: it owns you. You become attached to it, and it
Speaker 3: gives you whatever you want to do, but breaking free
Speaker 3: from it because of what you studied is hard. So
Speaker 3: it was. I don't know if that helps.
Speaker 4: Well. I mean, I mean, demonic spirits are they're parasitic.
Speaker 4: They're definitely parasitic. Now here's here's an interesting account. Levey
Speaker 4: who died in the early two thousands. Was it the
Speaker 4: early two thousand, mid or early two thousands.
Speaker 3: I think that story you're referred to was probably two
Speaker 3: thousand and one when it happened where.
Speaker 4: You're going, well, leavey Levey. Right before he died, like
Speaker 4: seconds before he died, it was recorded that he was saying,
Speaker 4: oh no, what have I done? Something is very very wrong?
Speaker 4: And I'm sad to say that. I think Levey learned
Speaker 4: a very hard lesson that his Satanism is not atheism,
Speaker 4: and that there is a very real hell that his
Speaker 4: Satanism leads to. And truthfully, all Satanism, I mean, all
Speaker 4: Satanism leads to one eternal destination. Amen. But from Levey's
Speaker 4: own mouth, oh no, what have I done? Something is
Speaker 4: very very wrong? And then he dies? I mean, is
Speaker 4: it possible that before that last breath was gone, that
Speaker 4: he was looking at his forever his forever home.
Speaker 2: Now that's very chilling prospects, something frightening to think about.
Speaker 2: Reminds me of those signs used to see billboards on
Speaker 2: the old country roads in the South, have a you know,
Speaker 2: just an artist version of hell and say where will
Speaker 2: you spend eternity? And and those gave you a possible reflection.
Speaker 2: You know, you think about it.
Speaker 4: Well. And and scripture is very clear, you know, on
Speaker 4: the consequence of satanism. It's very clear on the consequence
Speaker 4: of of occultism. Let's take a look real quick at
Speaker 4: revelation Revelation twenty one, Revelation twenty one and verse eight.
Speaker 4: But the fearful and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murders
Speaker 4: and horrormongers, and sorcerers and idolators and all liars shall
Speaker 4: have their part in the lake which burneth with fire
Speaker 4: and brimstone, which is the second death. Practicing of magic,
Speaker 4: practicing of conjuring. It has an eternal consequence. You know,
Speaker 4: nothing may happen during a person's lifetime that is involved
Speaker 4: in satanism. Nothing may happen during the lifetime, but as
Speaker 4: soon as it's over. Revelation twenty one to eight is
Speaker 4: is a forever consequence. It is a forever consequence relations.
Speaker 4: Part of the problem go ahead, now, you go ahead.
Speaker 4: Part of the problem with with atheism and the belief
Speaker 4: the belief now not not the truth, not the fact,
Speaker 4: but the belief that there is you know, there is nothing,
Speaker 4: is that it's going to come with a cost. Because
Speaker 4: there is something. There is something, whether we whether we
Speaker 4: believe it or not, whether we accept it or not.
Speaker 4: There are two eternal eventualities that Scripture makes very clear.
Speaker 4: There's Heaven, there's Hell. It's going to be one of
Speaker 4: the two. There's no in between there. And regardless of
Speaker 4: what some of the claims of Satan is amar over atheists,
Speaker 4: we don't believe in anything. The practices of it, the
Speaker 4: rituals of it, will lead directly to Revelation twenty one
Speaker 4: to eight. And I try I try to make that
Speaker 4: so clear when I'm teaching on the subject. You know,
Speaker 4: the practice is evil. I think the people that get
Speaker 4: involved in it are deceived, They're misled a lot of times.
Speaker 4: A lot of times these are people that came out
Speaker 4: of churches. Yeah, a lot of times they came out
Speaker 4: of churches and they got involved in this because of
Speaker 4: how hurt they were in the church, and because they
Speaker 4: got a misrepresented, misrepresented Bible for teaching, they didn't get
Speaker 4: biblical truth. Someone or something hurt them and they flocked
Speaker 4: to the absolute opposite. And then they get involved. And
Speaker 4: that's hard to me. That's heartbreaking. That's heartbreaking because I
Speaker 4: know they're not I know, I know they're not evil.
Speaker 4: What they're what they may be practicing, is evil. What
Speaker 4: they're involved in is evil. But they're not evil. And
Speaker 4: that there is a truth of the Word of God.
Speaker 4: They may not have gotten that truth of the Word
Speaker 4: of God. They got a misrepresentation of it, and as
Speaker 4: a result they were hurt or they were hurt by
Speaker 4: someone in the church, and they they they fall to
Speaker 4: this and and and I tell you, it's very it's
Speaker 4: very sad to me, because there is a truth of scripture,
Speaker 4: and and the Lord does not want to see them perish.
Speaker 4: Lord does not want them to be involved with this,
Speaker 4: this kind of abomination and evil. The Lord does want
Speaker 4: these people, and so it should it should be our prayer,
Speaker 4: it should be our prayer for them that they would
Speaker 4: come to the truth of God's word and leave repent
Speaker 4: of this lifestyle and come to a real truth of
Speaker 4: a real God that really does exist.
Speaker 8: Right, anybody want to add to that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I jumping on war. What you're saying yoga Galatians
Speaker 3: chapter five and basically what Paul is talking about is
Speaker 3: talking about the battle between the flesh and the spirit.
Speaker 3: And the keyword is in Galatians five twenty and it
Speaker 3: says idolatry, witchcraft, and it goes on to more things,
Speaker 3: but the keyword in the twenty one it says, these
Speaker 3: will not inherit the Kingdom of God. The sad part
Speaker 3: is is that there's this stuff inside the church today
Speaker 3: as well, and there's Satanism inside the church that people
Speaker 3: are practicing, and there's there's a lot of new wage
Speaker 3: stuff than that. And you find the whole concept of
Speaker 3: is do with I will of the law. But if
Speaker 3: you go to James chapter three and we look at
Speaker 3: this to kind of I think, and I think this
Speaker 3: could possibly, in my opinion, could possibly summarize the whole
Speaker 3: conspt of satanism if I can find it. See it's
Speaker 3: three fourteen. It says, but you have had bitter envy
Speaker 3: strife in your heart's glory and not lie against the
Speaker 3: truth of wisdom. That descent is from above, the earthly
Speaker 3: and central and devils. It's all about what you want
Speaker 3: to do and how you want to do it. And
Speaker 3: that's the whole part of even with conversations I've had
Speaker 3: people that are involved in Satanism, is it's kind of like,
Speaker 3: do whatever you want to do. You know, I'm not
Speaker 3: hurting anybody want to do what I want to do,
Speaker 3: so therefore it's okay. But here it says that it's
Speaker 3: in some translations it will say it's demonic, it's influenced
Speaker 3: by the devil, because it's what it's about. And so
Speaker 3: it goes back to the what was talked about in
Speaker 3: Revelation that people that are partaking in the stuff and
Speaker 3: the form is a witchcraft, which if you look at
Speaker 3: the definition of witchcraft, it's a form of which way
Speaker 3: you can conjure a spell or you can control someone.
Speaker 3: Is that's what will happen, is the eternal will be
Speaker 3: separation from God because they desire what they want to
Speaker 3: do and how they want to do it instead of
Speaker 3: accepting the eternal gift of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just wanted to add, you know, you said,
Speaker 2: whether they believe or not, that's it doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: you believe, that's what's going to happen. I mean, you
Speaker 2: don't have to believe in gravity to fall down the stairs.
Speaker 2: You know, it's inevitable. Whatever you believe, that the end
Speaker 2: game is going to be the same.
Speaker 4: Well, and and here's something else to think about. There
Speaker 4: are a lot of people. There are a lot of people,
Speaker 4: especially when Levey's daughter Zena, who had taken over the
Speaker 4: church for a while and then she left and had
Speaker 4: a big falling out with her with her father, there
Speaker 4: are a lot of people have said, oh, it's such
Speaker 4: a little movement. You know, it's not going to have
Speaker 4: any kind of major effect or anything. And as of
Speaker 4: a couple years ago, the Satanic Church started printing children's
Speaker 4: story books and started an after school club and a
Speaker 4: handful of elementary schools around the United States. And take
Speaker 4: a look at the Baphomet statue. This it has the
Speaker 4: Baphomet on it, and then it has it has a
Speaker 4: little girl and a little boy with it. And they've
Speaker 4: had a little bit more success than what a lot
Speaker 4: of people think. I mean, would any of you ever
Speaker 4: have pictured twenty years ago, thirty years ago that the
Speaker 4: Satanic Church would have an after school program and not
Speaker 4: just at its home base, but in several places around
Speaker 4: this country and after school program.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's inconceivable how much things have changed
Speaker 2: since I was born in nineteen sixty three, so started
Speaker 2: elementary school in sixty nine, elementary to the rest of
Speaker 2: elementary school, middle school, and started high school the seventies.
Speaker 2: Graduated in nineteen eighty one, So that's been you know,
Speaker 2: forty something years ago. But still it's just amazing how
Speaker 2: much has changed even since the nineties. The things of
Speaker 2: the people that I knew that were in school in
Speaker 2: the nineties said that my wife was born in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty five, and she talks about how much has changed
Speaker 2: since she was in school, you know, in the nineties
Speaker 2: and the early two thousands of things. It's just the
Speaker 2: world is just getting more wicked by the moment.
Speaker 4: Oh I did not just not just wicked repulsive. I
Speaker 4: mean I the very fact, the very fact that because
Speaker 4: again coming up in the eighties and in the eighties,
Speaker 4: Ozzie was viewed by parents especially as absolutely evil. Well
Speaker 4: now or not now, but in the two thousands ended
Speaker 4: up getting a family show, a family reality show, The
Speaker 4: Guy that Bit the Head off the bat and the
Speaker 4: head off a dove in a record meeting room, got
Speaker 4: a family show.
Speaker 2: And who was the one time known? And it still
Speaker 2: is and sometimes has the Prince of Darkness. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: on a TV with a snappy little tune by Pat
Speaker 2: Boone opening the show there and let's say, yeah, a
Speaker 2: family show. Strange, strange, strange world we live in.
Speaker 3: I mean, and that's been.
Speaker 2: Years and years ago.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I could tell you right now, as a
Speaker 4: young teen in eighty three and eighty four, I would
Speaker 4: have never I was a huge Aussie fan then and
Speaker 4: I couldn't even conceive the thought, the very thought of
Speaker 4: this guy being on a family reality show. Of course
Speaker 4: there wasn't any reality TV back then, but on on
Speaker 4: a family.
Speaker 5: Show, you know.
Speaker 4: So while the hippie movement did die out, the Satanic
Speaker 4: the Church of Satan, is still being influential in culture today.
Speaker 4: It's still being influential in music and the entertainment industry.
Speaker 2: Those seeds that were planted in the sixties have have
Speaker 2: continued to grow and flourish. And now there's literally a
Speaker 2: poison garden of Eden, or poison garden of something going
Speaker 2: on out there. That's just it's perpetual, and it gets
Speaker 2: worse and worse. You know, every year the crop spreads
Speaker 2: a little bit more. It's it's like weeds. It's like
Speaker 2: in the south we have a kudzu. Yeah, kudzuo. It'll
Speaker 2: take over every single thing inside. I've been out in
Speaker 2: the was before and seen a big pilocuds and hey,
Speaker 2: there's an old house in there. Holy cow, you know
Speaker 2: it happens. That's the way this is. Once that got
Speaker 2: a foothold through whoever was doing it, through Levey and
Speaker 2: Crowley and all these people. Uh, it's just it's spread
Speaker 2: and it's continued to spread, and it's just ever growing.
Speaker 2: I don't see. And then to it until the end
Speaker 2: of the end times, which I think we're living in,
Speaker 2: and good is going to triumph over evil. But that's
Speaker 2: what it's going to take to wipe it off the
Speaker 2: face of the earth.
Speaker 4: Absolutely and then and there is a definite eschatological connection
Speaker 4: there because this is the core. This is part of
Speaker 4: the foundation of the world leader to come, the Antichrist.
Speaker 4: Much of what you see that that that comes out
Speaker 4: of the Satanic Church and the teachings of the Satanic Church.
Speaker 4: Much of what you say e of that is laying
Speaker 4: the foundation for the Antichrist. And yeah, it ultimately, ultimately,
Speaker 4: it is going. It is going to take the Lord's return,
Speaker 4: the Lord's actual return in restoration of things in order
Speaker 4: for this to be to be gone. But the good
Speaker 4: news is we you know, we've read again. We we
Speaker 4: we read the end of the big book. That's right. Well,
Speaker 4: that that is all that I have for for my
Speaker 4: portion brother justin.
Speaker 3: Okay, did we want to take a break or anything?
Speaker 2: Or yeah, let's let's take a little break. I'm going
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Speaker 2: and we'll be back right after this, folks, stick around.
Speaker 4: Sounds good.
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Speaker 6: Here, man, Yeah, we're still doing a.
Speaker 3: Break when.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's lead g from first floor audio and shutters.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the second hour of everything out there.
Speaker 2: Steve Stockton here on the Clyde Less Ground zero Radio
Speaker 2: New work. Man, we're still here with pastors Eric and
Speaker 2: Justin from sound the so far Messianic Ministries. You guys
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Speaker 3: Well, let's go all right, all right, So this next
Speaker 3: portion is gonna be about uh, paranormal activity in the military,
Speaker 3: and I want to talk about Afghanistan. But the reason
Speaker 3: why I want to talk about this issue is I
Speaker 3: do a lot of the ministry with the military, and
Speaker 3: it's primarily the whole thing that me and wife do
Speaker 3: is mission to the military, and we've experienced a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff ourselves and me being a combat veteran going
Speaker 3: to Afghanistan, you know, I've seen stuff. I've seen things firsthand.
Speaker 3: But I can also tell you if you know anyone
Speaker 3: in the military, there's a lot of things that guys
Speaker 3: have seen. There is the term shell shock that was
Speaker 3: in World War One. They also had the term called
Speaker 3: fog of war. And some of this is a reaction
Speaker 3: to what you see in front of you, whether it's
Speaker 3: you see your brother and sister in arms that's killed
Speaker 3: in front of you, whatever the case may be. But
Speaker 3: as a result of this, those type of things lead
Speaker 3: to PTSD. And if we've talked about before, you know,
Speaker 3: we talked about that there are multiple things that will
Speaker 3: fall into things that mask yourself behind that in the
Speaker 3: spirit realm and as a result of it, I guarantee
Speaker 3: you if you know someone that's been in the military,
Speaker 3: they will talk to you about paranormal stuff or things
Speaker 3: that they've seen, but they're scared to talk about it
Speaker 3: because if they go and discuss this while being in
Speaker 3: the military, they will be classified as a someone that
Speaker 3: has mental problems or could violate their top secret security clearance,
Speaker 3: whatever the case may be. So I want to talk
Speaker 3: about that, and I briefly want to talk about what's
Speaker 3: happened in Afghanistan and what's taking place with a lot
Speaker 3: of our veterans that when they come back, and is
Speaker 3: a very very pow that they're seeing stuff and what
Speaker 3: is the end result and is it very very possible
Speaker 3: that a lot of stuff that they're seeing is leading
Speaker 3: to the con suicide. So I want to get into
Speaker 3: that's kind of an introduction, but I want to kind
Speaker 3: of talk about what is significant about Afghanistan, what is
Speaker 3: very prevalent. Well, what's interesting about Afghanistan is briefly, think
Speaker 3: about the terrain. If you've ever been to Colorado, Alaska
Speaker 3: or those places, the return the terrain is in some
Speaker 3: places it's very very beautiful and some places it's very
Speaker 3: very desolate. Now we go into the history of Afghanistan,
Speaker 3: and we can go it goes all the way back
Speaker 3: to the biblical times of the Persian Empire where Afghanistan
Speaker 3: was taken over. But I want to talk about too
Speaker 3: briefly things that we're very familiar with. We know that
Speaker 3: the British attempted to control Afghanistan in eighteen seventy nine
Speaker 3: and failed. And another one if you've ever seen Rambo
Speaker 3: three or four, Rambo three, the Soviets took over Afghanistan
Speaker 3: and at that time, we as the United States military
Speaker 3: in the Reagan administration, funded al Qaeda, which we saw
Speaker 3: that in a result, And what you'll find is two times,
Speaker 3: because of the terrain in the land, both failed and
Speaker 3: we recently pulled out in August for being a twenty
Speaker 3: year war with Afghanistan and what happened. So that being said,
Speaker 3: that's gonna set up the next subject of what we're
Speaker 3: going to talk about. We're going to talk about the
Speaker 3: paranormal activity that a lot of service members have faced
Speaker 3: a lot of battles and these type of things, whether
Speaker 3: you're talking about UFOs figures or whatever. But the common one,
Speaker 3: the common figure that that's very prominent in Afghanistan and
Speaker 3: it's also found in a lot of Islam is the
Speaker 3: concept of the gem, the d d J I N N.
Speaker 3: And if you ever watch a lot of the paranormal
Speaker 3: videos of people in the Middle East, you will sometimes
Speaker 3: see this dark figure with red eyes and it's a
Speaker 3: very aggressive figure. Now in their legend, they believe that
Speaker 3: these things can be good, but in most cases when
Speaker 3: they come up, they're not good. And kind of an
Speaker 3: idea of what this is. A gem in Afghanistan is
Speaker 3: painted as a creature with having monstrous red eyes, the
Speaker 3: body of a man or a shadow figure, but the
Speaker 3: edges of it being smoky in nature. The creature can
Speaker 3: take the light and scaring those of trespass into its territory,
Speaker 3: but the encounters remain nonviolent, which I disagree. They're very
Speaker 3: violent and that some of the stories that I talk
Speaker 3: about they are it provoked. These creatures will kill their
Speaker 3: intended victims in a horrible, painful waste. So that being said,
Speaker 3: these beings are very very violent. They're very very aggressive.
Speaker 3: In some of the videos they've shown, they they they've
Speaker 3: seen they've taken they've taken like massive furniture and sometimes
Speaker 3: wallwockers and throw them at the people. So as we
Speaker 3: get into this, the first the first story I want
Speaker 3: to talk about that I know firsthand is op rock. Now,
Speaker 3: the term op rock is observation post. So if you
Speaker 3: understand anything about the military you have in counterinsurgency during
Speaker 3: the Afghanistan war that we had we had called the
Speaker 3: Ford Observation Base. A Ford Observation base would be where
Speaker 3: you would see vehicles drive in and out. You'd have
Speaker 3: a command post, you would have it'd be like a
Speaker 3: little city. Now. The op Rock, which was in the
Speaker 3: Kanderhart province, was an isolated area probably twenty thirty miles
Speaker 3: outside of Kandahart or the base in the home the
Speaker 3: province area where marines were. So the story goes is
Speaker 3: that marines were they landed in this location and what
Speaker 3: the Marines were doing was they were going to I
Speaker 3: think it was they were replacing the the Canadians. No,
Speaker 3: it was, no, it was I think it was the Brits.
Speaker 3: The Brits were over there. And as they went into
Speaker 3: the area, the Brits have been out there for probably
Speaker 3: three to four months, and a lot of times in
Speaker 3: these areas, you're isolated out there and your replacements may
Speaker 3: not be there until that long. So they're out there.
Speaker 3: The Marines said that as they landed, as they went
Speaker 3: inside to see them, that the that the Brits had
Speaker 3: had no sleep or little rough and they they told
Speaker 3: them one thing, they said, whatever you find in there,
Speaker 3: make sure you bury it. Don't take anything, and that's
Speaker 3: what the Marines were told, and the Marines would would
Speaker 3: take significantly to that as they entered this this Opie Rock.
Speaker 3: So a little history about Opie Rock. There was a
Speaker 3: significant battle that happened with the Afghans and the Russians
Speaker 3: at this time, and the Russians ended up killing a
Speaker 3: lot of the Afghans, so that that's gonna be important
Speaker 3: as we talk about this. So the night, the Marines
Speaker 3: were gonna probably be there for the next three to
Speaker 3: four months, and as they begin to stay at Opie Rock,
Speaker 3: they begin to notice some things about the location. So
Speaker 3: a lot of times these guys are gonna be at
Speaker 3: doing twenty four hour posts and the points, and the
Speaker 3: purpose of the observation is to pay attention to what's
Speaker 3: going on, to have sector fire, to see what's going
Speaker 3: on with the Afghans. Is the Taliban coming? Are they
Speaker 3: getting ready to invade? Can we stop them? They would
Speaker 3: sometimes send guys out on a mission. So one thing
Speaker 3: that they recorded that they said was one of the
Speaker 3: marines said that as they were out there during the
Speaker 3: night on patrol, one of them man said that something
Speaker 3: kept tapping on the shoulder and he looked to his
Speaker 3: buddy and said, hey, did you tap you on the shoulder?
Speaker 3: He said no, And it got to a point where
Speaker 3: the tapping would continue on there no one be around.
Speaker 3: Another story that they have was with the night vision goggles.
Speaker 3: They were out there, they were doing they were patrolling
Speaker 3: inside the at one of the Opie Rock. They were
Speaker 3: looking out and patrolling the area for night for security,
Speaker 3: and that they would wear night vision goggles thermal goggles.
Speaker 3: So as they were wearing thermal goggles, they said that
Speaker 3: one of the marines that they noticed a the shadow
Speaker 3: figure with red eyes that was hovering over the land
Speaker 3: and when he would take off the night vision goggles,
Speaker 3: there wouldn't there would nothing would be there, and when
Speaker 3: he put him back on, it would be back out
Speaker 3: there again. Another story they had about Opie Rock was
Speaker 3: is that they said they would hear footsteps inside the compound.
Speaker 3: Now op Rock was not very very big. It was
Speaker 3: probably it was probably about the size half the size
Speaker 3: of a house or something. This is not a very
Speaker 3: big location. The guys only slept in certain would sleep
Speaker 3: in a thorn area and they would have their guard
Speaker 3: track as well. You had that when all this started.
Speaker 3: If you remember the brid said, whatever you find, make
Speaker 3: sure you leave it buried. Well, what they found was
Speaker 3: as they were digging their foxholes and stuff inside the location,
Speaker 3: they found the graves of some of the Soviet unions.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 3: They found graves of Soviet unions buried in Afghans, buried.
Speaker 3: So when they when they started digging it up, they
Speaker 3: they enticed something there and as a result of it.
Speaker 3: The stories go on to say an Opie Rock that
Speaker 3: some of the marines said that while they were sleeping,
Speaker 3: they would be held down. One guy reported that he
Speaker 3: was being strangled and this was this was some of
Speaker 3: the time when I was in the Marine Corps. They
Speaker 3: told them the stories as well. So that's kind of
Speaker 3: an example of Opie Rock. Before I go on, did
Speaker 3: you guys have any questions or anything you want to
Speaker 3: talk about that?
Speaker 2: I'm fined the whole thing fascinating. I've heard the story
Speaker 2: of the Gin and the Candahart Giant and just all
Speaker 2: kinds of paranormal goings on there. I'm anxious to hear
Speaker 2: what all you've got to say, pastor.
Speaker 3: Justin Well, you know, did you say some brother, I'm sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was gonna say some of the most fiercest paranormal
Speaker 3: activity videos come from there and come from other places
Speaker 3: in the Middle East, and at all that almost all
Speaker 3: the the videos associated with jin M. Yeah, absolutely. I mean,
Speaker 3: if you ever and you're right, if you ever talked
Speaker 3: to loss Earthen was though referred to the in as well,
Speaker 3: and and it was more prevalent in that rack than
Speaker 3: it was in Afghanistan. But as we go on, I'll
Speaker 3: talk I'll talk about some more of this. So the
Speaker 3: next one was at Camp Dwire and Camp the Wire
Speaker 3: was the post I think was in the location in
Speaker 3: Afghanistan was was in the Hellman Province, so you had
Speaker 3: the Holman Province and UH which was in I think
Speaker 3: it was in the southwest portion of the country. And
Speaker 3: basically Camp Dwire had a lot of UH which was
Speaker 3: in which was in it was in Kandahar as well.
Speaker 3: And with with Camp Wire a lot of things that happened,
Speaker 3: and marines were out there station too, and there were
Speaker 3: a couple of stories I wanted to talk about briefly.
Speaker 3: Do you guys know what a what a hepsco is?
Speaker 3: Do you do? You know what that is?
Speaker 2: I do not.
Speaker 3: So hepscow was invented. It's called it's called a hepsco.
Speaker 3: Do you know what hepsco is. It's in it's it's
Speaker 3: involved in fortification.
Speaker 4: I've heard the term. I never I never knew though.
Speaker 3: So the hepsco, it was inmitted by it by the French.
Speaker 3: And basically what it is, it's it's think of a burn.
Speaker 3: So basically it's a hepsco is a a section of
Speaker 3: like cardboard and stuff and you put dirt behind it,
Speaker 3: and it's uses fortification and it's a very it's a cheap,
Speaker 3: simple way of making repairs and stuff. So at Camp
Speaker 3: Wired there were marines that were stationed in two posts.
Speaker 3: There was Post Hotel, Post Alpha, and there were from
Speaker 3: what I understanding the story that it was a pretty
Speaker 3: good distance from each other, so and Post Off and
Speaker 3: it was the main section I think of the guard
Speaker 3: gate where people come in and out. So marines were
Speaker 3: talking about there were two marines would stay there and
Speaker 3: they talked about where One night, one guy was on
Speaker 3: guard duty and he kept hearing footsteps coming up the
Speaker 3: stairs then and they're probably thirty forty feet in the air,
Speaker 3: that's how high these things are. Come up the stairs,
Speaker 3: open up the door. He went out there, looked out,
Speaker 3: there's no one there, and it's usually two people on
Speaker 3: guard duty. Now the sergeant of the guard sometimes would
Speaker 3: rotate go check on or whatever, and the marine thought
Speaker 3: of somebody was playing a trick, so he goes close
Speaker 3: the door. Same thing again about that time. And this
Speaker 3: would happen between the hours between one to five, and
Speaker 3: the key time that this would always happen was three
Speaker 3: am every time. And I'm going to get into a story.
Speaker 3: I'm going to get into the reason why it's happened
Speaker 3: at three am. We've talked about three m but there's
Speaker 3: a reason behind it. So this was going on, and
Speaker 3: other times they said that they would They were out
Speaker 3: there one day and they were wearing the thermal goggles
Speaker 3: and as they were looking at the thermal goggles, they
Speaker 3: noticed a a a shepherd boy walking walking with sheep
Speaker 3: at one to three in the morning. They're like, this
Speaker 3: is crazy, how is this even possible. They'd take off
Speaker 3: the goggles, there's no one there, they put it back on.
Speaker 3: It was going on and this was going constantly at
Speaker 3: this time, so they were either getting someone walking up
Speaker 3: the stairs tapping on the door, or they would see
Speaker 3: this about this time. They were even reporting that even
Speaker 3: the Marines were saying that they're two forty golf. Brother, Steve,
Speaker 3: you want a two forty golfers? Are you familiar with this?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: No, that that one's the term sounds famire, but I
Speaker 2: couldn't tell you.
Speaker 3: But brother, brother, brother, two forty golf is anytime in
Speaker 3: the guards they would have a machine gun. Two forty
Speaker 3: golf is a machine gun and a lot of times
Speaker 3: with the two forty golf it will sometimes be up
Speaker 3: on a bipod where you can rotate it and you
Speaker 3: could take it and it would rotate around, you could
Speaker 3: spin it or whatever. So mysteriously, what the marines, what
Speaker 3: the Marines were talking about was there was one one
Speaker 3: so yeah, two people that were on that were in
Speaker 3: that were in rotation. One would sleep while the other
Speaker 3: one was on was on guard duty. It so happened
Speaker 3: that that the uh that the two forty golf this
Speaker 3: is this is a condition one live round machine gun. Mysteriously,
Speaker 3: there'd be no one next to the machine gun. The
Speaker 3: machine gun would instinctively turn and would point right at
Speaker 3: the marine and there's no one controlling this thing. Or
Speaker 3: sometimes he would have it. He would get pushed back
Speaker 3: and the machine gun will turn back around, will be
Speaker 3: pointing at him. And one time a negligent discharge one
Speaker 3: off it audiom. It didn't kill him, but there's no
Speaker 3: one there. What's going on? So what is significant about
Speaker 3: these three events? Two months before those Marines arrived the
Speaker 3: Afghan Army or the A and A, they had a
Speaker 3: they had they had a suicide bomber drive into that location,
Speaker 3: went in and destroyed the HESCO And when this happened
Speaker 3: was was what was between one and three am in
Speaker 3: the morning of this happening. And as a result of this,
Speaker 3: Marines were talking about this. So that was that that
Speaker 3: was a very interesting story as well. So and I
Speaker 3: heard this first one out in Afghanistan too when we
Speaker 3: were circulating that area. So you guys got a question
Speaker 3: that you'd like to discuss about that.
Speaker 6: It's it.
Speaker 4: It does not surprise me, especially especially with the account
Speaker 4: of the Candahart Giant and I've i've I've listened to
Speaker 4: some other soldiers stories about gen appearances, a shadow, a
Speaker 4: foggy shadow thing appearing with with glowing red eyes. Yep,
Speaker 4: it doesn't it doesn't surprise me. That is that is
Speaker 4: a hot area in the I remember in the eighties. Uh,
Speaker 4: when we went over there and we trained trained them
Speaker 4: to fight and and I think supplied them to a
Speaker 4: fight against the Russians.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I remember that things there's like
Speaker 2: ancient evils or things out there that that's awakened by
Speaker 2: all that with the battle and things that are being destroyed.
Speaker 2: There's just, for lack of a better phrase, literally sleeping
Speaker 2: giants over there that are awakened when stuff like that's
Speaker 2: going on. I've heard of that in other places where
Speaker 2: there's a lot of activity with sights that are war
Speaker 2: torn and things that it wakes up something that you
Speaker 2: concur on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there is there was another story that there
Speaker 3: was There was another story that a marine talked about.
Speaker 3: This is interesting too. Looked out there on patrol at Campdellire,
Speaker 3: looks out in probably two hundred yards from the entrance,
Speaker 3: looks out he's on patrol. He's kind of like the
Speaker 3: road guy up on top walking, looks over and sees
Speaker 3: about the same time again, this mysterious tornado forms, and
Speaker 3: in the midst of the tornado forms, here's footsteps. Looks
Speaker 3: over and sees a manifestation of a Russian soldier walking
Speaker 3: towards the area and disappears. There was a known battle
Speaker 3: there as well, so you had weird phenomenon with weather.
Speaker 3: So you you even if you want to drift off subject,
Speaker 3: you know, you talk about giants. There are service members
Speaker 3: that talk about flying the raves and the drones. There's
Speaker 3: a story of a of a I think of an
Speaker 3: airman probably twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, there were flying missions
Speaker 3: with the drones and it was probably nine ten thousand
Speaker 3: feet above a mountain looks over and sees literally a
Speaker 3: village of nefhelin walking around and they're up in the
Speaker 3: mountains probably twelve thirteen feet tall, you know, And that's it.
Speaker 3: And there's several stories of life that besides the Kandahart Giant.
Speaker 3: So definitely a lot's going on out there. So that
Speaker 3: that's a that's kind of a jumping on what you
Speaker 3: were talking about as well. The next one I would
Speaker 3: like to talk about is what I've experienced and what
Speaker 3: I've seen, And I'm going to really talk about what
Speaker 3: I what I think the causes are of the sactivity
Speaker 3: and stuff, and is it possible that some stuff has
Speaker 3: followed service members home? So place I know of and
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna mention the location just
Speaker 3: because of places the location I was that was part
Speaker 3: of We saw a lot of stuff. We were staying
Speaker 3: in these kind of like these these buildings looked like barracks,
Speaker 3: but they were like connexes on stop on top of
Speaker 3: each other. And I'll never forget it, about one or two
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning, we would hear footsteps coming up
Speaker 3: to still thing, these these still steps, and you hear
Speaker 3: this boom, boom, boom, and you would hear someone knocking
Speaker 3: on the door and you open it. There was no
Speaker 3: one there. You would sometimes see and that that was
Speaker 3: part of it as well. So that was very very interesting.
Speaker 3: Was that was that fortunate? And you uh, And I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I wasn't. I wasn't the only one that saw that.
Speaker 3: There were people said that. We had one guy telling
Speaker 3: me that he saw he literally saw a This was interesting.
Speaker 3: He said that one night someone knocked on his door.
Speaker 3: He went out there and he says, about one or
Speaker 3: two o'clock when he's coming off ship, he saw a
Speaker 3: what he believed was a probably an eighteen nineteen eighteen
Speaker 3: twenty British soldier walking away and disappeared. Had that Now
Speaker 3: in the location we were in, you sometimes would go
Speaker 3: and sometimes are you guys familiar with the club? Is
Speaker 3: called a trying to think it's a it's like a
Speaker 3: A the thousand club, and what it was. It's like
Speaker 3: a cigar club, right, And so the tradition was marine sercemers. However,
Speaker 3: on the base they would go, they would have a
Speaker 3: cigar club. People go out there and smoke a cigar,
Speaker 3: sit down, talk or whatever. Well, it's really really cool,
Speaker 3: like you hear people tell stories. That's where the term
Speaker 3: smoker jacket comes in, is that it's like a vinyl jacket.
Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. That we were out there one night
Speaker 3: and I was sitting with them and we looked over
Speaker 3: probably maybe about a mile or two away, and what
Speaker 3: you would see is to come on to the base.
Speaker 3: You would look over and you would see old Russian
Speaker 3: vehicles from the eighties, like a lot of Russian artifacts stuff.
Speaker 3: You look over, you see in the mountain, we saw
Speaker 3: what we believe was a UFO and it wasn't the
Speaker 3: stars or anything. And this thing was probably about it
Speaker 3: wasn't football size, but it was saucer shaped. The thing
Speaker 3: was coming down, it hovered over the mountain and then
Speaker 3: it would shoot back up. It would hover back down
Speaker 3: and would shoot back up. Come to find out there
Speaker 3: was a significant battle up there. We saw that as well,
Speaker 3: and it really it kind of freaked everybody out. And
Speaker 3: then one night we Uh, I would always go around
Speaker 3: and do prayer with a lot of the contractors and stuff,
Speaker 3: and I got asked, they said, hey, could you come
Speaker 3: up here with us? And it was pretty it was
Speaker 3: pretty interesting. Got to go up there and they were
Speaker 3: doing a sector fire with a gun. You go out
Speaker 3: there and you would see a gen three of them
Speaker 3: hovering over the area with these red eyes. And we
Speaker 3: had a we were we were conducting Bible studies on
Speaker 3: on the on the fob and I had a call
Speaker 3: one night and I said, hey, could you come and
Speaker 3: uh one of the Afghans was been the belief possessed
Speaker 3: by one of these things, and he he gave his
Speaker 3: life to the Lord. But when we had met another
Speaker 3: pastor frame and we prayed over him and casted it
Speaker 3: out in the name of the Lord, this thing manifested
Speaker 3: and it got violent, like it tried to attack us.
Speaker 3: But when it came at us, like we saw the
Speaker 3: presence of God protect us from this thing, and this
Speaker 3: thing advantaged disappeared. So that's kind of this kind of
Speaker 3: the stories that go on there. There's a story that
Speaker 3: wasn't that wasn't involving us, but we were we were
Speaker 3: at one of the bases and Cobble, one of the Canadians,
Speaker 3: told us the story about where they were at. It
Speaker 3: was called the I think it was the Agular Aguilar
Speaker 3: River or whatever, and they were in those you know,
Speaker 3: do you do you know what striker vehicles are? Are
Speaker 3: are you all familiar with those?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Again, my knowledge falls short in that area.
Speaker 3: Okay, striker vehicles were striker vehicles, the term striker vehicles
Speaker 3: that the military uses. Yeah, very Uh what it is?
Speaker 3: It say? They're there's sometimes they can be like eight
Speaker 3: wheel drive and they can they can transport troops or
Speaker 3: heavy armored vehicles. You can carry, uh, they can have
Speaker 3: machine guns, all sorts of stuff and a lot of
Speaker 3: times you would use them to set up on a
Speaker 3: patrol area. Well, the Canadians were telling us a story
Speaker 3: where they were near this river and on this river
Speaker 3: they were watching the talle Ban and you couldn't you
Speaker 3: couldn't sneak up. So they were telling a story where
Speaker 3: they were sleeping and they had the hatch clothes. They
Speaker 3: were sleeping because somebody was watching out for the the
Speaker 3: goggles said, this thing came up and when it did,
Speaker 3: when it stepped, it went boom boom boom, shook the vehicle.
Speaker 3: These vehicles were like three three or four tons. These
Speaker 3: things are heavy man armored vehicles that require heavy turboat,
Speaker 3: heavy turbot to pull these engines. I mean we're talking
Speaker 3: about strong diesel motors. This thing came up and shook
Speaker 3: the vehicle. Woke them all up. They go and they
Speaker 3: have their weapons. They opened the hats. There's no one there,
Speaker 3: No one there. One guy says that he was out
Speaker 3: with his night vision goggles looking out. Said he saw
Speaker 3: massive twelve foot gym just walking across there and it disappears.
Speaker 3: And they said that they've seen kids that were walking
Speaker 3: and would banish right in front of them. So, uh,
Speaker 3: another story they said that is they were they were
Speaker 3: near the vehicle and right over with the striker vehicle,
Speaker 3: there was this looking black shadow figure that manifested look
Speaker 3: right at him, hissed at him, and went to went
Speaker 3: the lunge at the vehicle and just disappeared vanished. So
Speaker 3: these are these are some stories that that I know
Speaker 3: firsthand or I've experienced, and I can tell you. So
Speaker 3: feel free to comment for free. It's open discussion now.
Speaker 3: If you got any questions, please let me know.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, please come. Damn. I'm anxious to hear some
Speaker 2: of your experiences pastor.
Speaker 3: Well, I think and I think you know, I think
Speaker 3: this is where my heart goes out to the military.
Speaker 3: Is that you when you enter these places, you you
Speaker 3: see a lot of things. You experienced a lot of stuff,
Speaker 3: and a lot of these guys that are coming back,
Speaker 3: for the most part, they see stuff. They're they're entering
Speaker 3: the spirit realm. And we know that that that that
Speaker 3: these battles open up, open up doors, they open up things,
Speaker 3: and you hear a lot of significant battles as well,
Speaker 3: that the Lord has moved and protected people. And we
Speaker 3: know this throughout scripture. We know that with Elijah, when
Speaker 3: Ahab's forces were coming at him, the servant was terrified,
Speaker 3: and the Lord said, opened his eyes, will low and
Speaker 3: behold he comes. Here comes the charits of heaven, getting
Speaker 3: ready to destroy Ahab's forces. Then you look in Isaiah
Speaker 3: thirty six Hezekiah praise you know, and the king of
Speaker 3: the Assyrian king says, don't serve your God. And all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, Hezekiah comes before the Lord and says, Oh, Lord,
Speaker 3: if they come at us, we're gonna die. And Isaiah
Speaker 3: says Isaiah. The Lord speaks to Isaiah and says, the
Speaker 3: king of the Syrian king will no one will bother you.
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, Angel of the Lord appears
Speaker 3: and kills one hundred and eighty thousand Asyrians right there
Speaker 3: on the spot. So we know that war opens up
Speaker 3: the spirit realm. We know that there is a spiritual
Speaker 3: battle going on. We know that in the Book of
Speaker 3: Revelation that when the Lord returns, he's going to destroy
Speaker 3: his enemies. So that being said, with these stories that
Speaker 3: goes on, there's no reason why that there's always paranormal activity.
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of these mental disorders and
Speaker 3: this PTSD is it's not saying there's not a cover up,
Speaker 3: but there is something going on where a lot of
Speaker 3: the stuff will follow you. I've been experiencing this stuff.
Speaker 3: I've experienced the stuff firsthand being in the military, you know,
Speaker 3: and these things will follow people home. There's a story
Speaker 3: of a marine who came back from Afghanistan and living
Speaker 3: back on on base housing and he said that when
Speaker 3: he went home, he said that he said he always
Speaker 3: felt something dreary. Following he said that he looked over
Speaker 3: in the corner and he would see something with red eyes.
Speaker 3: And he said that when he go in his room,
Speaker 3: there'd always his shoes would always be crossed over into
Speaker 3: a tee. We'll come to find out that was that
Speaker 3: crossing over. The tee was at camped wire. And if
Speaker 3: you remember what I told you about a esco, the
Speaker 3: esco had a tea and when the A and A hit,
Speaker 3: they hit a tea. And that's what brought that back up,
Speaker 3: is is that that thing, whatever was there, was reminding
Speaker 3: him of what happened. So it was not uncommon for
Speaker 3: Pepe to have this. Based upon those stories end up
Speaker 3: having PTSD or whatever. And what you'll find is is
Speaker 3: that these things will set up shopping territory and will
Speaker 3: come at people and hang on to them and try
Speaker 3: to make their life run them in the ground. So
Speaker 3: you see a lot of military with paranormal activity and
Speaker 3: what they see and what they talk about based upon
Speaker 3: when they've been to war and been to battle based
Speaker 3: upon the stories that they've seen. So I could go
Speaker 3: into more feel free if if you guys got comments,
Speaker 3: if you've got questions or anything I can try to answer.
Speaker 3: If you got anything you'd like to say, feel free to.
Speaker 4: Oh I would say, I would say, I mean, Afghanistan
Speaker 4: has been fought over for decades and longer, and I'm
Speaker 4: sure the demonic activity there is incredible. I've I've I've
Speaker 4: talked to some soldiers that were over there before and again,
Speaker 4: the one that sticks out to me the most is
Speaker 4: the Candahart Giant. I know recently La Marzouli did a
Speaker 4: thing and he was holding a spear I think as
Speaker 4: a replica of a spear that was found that was
Speaker 4: believed to have been a Nephelim spear. And I know
Speaker 4: in the Candahart Giant story, the first two soldiers that
Speaker 4: went into the cave, if I remember correctly, the first
Speaker 4: one was killed because it was lance and it was
Speaker 4: lanced by one of those massively long spears.
Speaker 6: I mean, I I.
Speaker 4: I could only imagine the number, the total number of
Speaker 4: stories of encounters with demonic apparitions like Jim and and
Speaker 4: other accounts like with the with the Candahart Giant.
Speaker 3: Well, there was a speak of the Candahart. There was
Speaker 3: a guy that La Marzoli had on there and it
Speaker 3: was he uh. He said that his uh, his grandparents
Speaker 3: talked about the giant and said that they would always
Speaker 3: go to the cave and would leave a goat. And
Speaker 3: the story goes with those is that if the goat
Speaker 3: was not left there, the giant was going to come
Speaker 3: and eat them. And talked about the same thing, this
Speaker 3: thing being twelve thirteen feet tall, six toes, six fingers,
Speaker 3: and it's that's what he did. And what's interesting is
Speaker 3: is that they said that when they when they transported
Speaker 3: that thing out of there, they said, this thing it took,
Speaker 3: it took a it took it was about the size
Speaker 3: it took a Chinook helicopter. And if you've ever seen
Speaker 3: a chinook, and if you ever understand what that is
Speaker 3: and what type of power it is, they said the
Speaker 3: chinook had trouble lifting that thing off off the off
Speaker 3: the location that it was in. It was so heavy
Speaker 3: and it stunk so bad, and they put it on
Speaker 3: a C one thirty and I guess it was flying
Speaker 3: back and don't know what they did with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be it'd be very interesting to know what
Speaker 4: happened to the body of the candle hard giant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard that story and saw videos about you know,
Speaker 2: just a dramatic recreation of it. But uh, if even
Speaker 2: a tenth of it's true, it's just it's stunningly Well.
Speaker 3: There was a speaking of that, and this is kind
Speaker 3: of changing gears to a location. But in the rack
Speaker 3: there was and I think slinging Stone showed this in
Speaker 3: the Department of State disclosures that they were looking for
Speaker 3: nephylon technology out there. They were they were I think
Speaker 3: it was the There was a video that was floating
Speaker 3: around about the net some netle that they found, but
Speaker 3: they were looking for and it was documented they were
Speaker 3: looking for that technology. They're trying to find neph one
Speaker 3: and look at the d n A and trying to
Speaker 3: figure out, okay, how can we make super sold or
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: That kind of ties into some of the dog Man
Speaker 2: stories that.
Speaker 3: Are look, well, you know all the stuff. And what's
Speaker 3: interesting is as we go back to we go back
Speaker 3: to talking about the location. But if you ever notice,
Speaker 3: especially on the military basis, and we go to we
Speaker 3: go to Fort Campbell. What's not too far from Fort Campbell,
Speaker 3: adamsvilt tennessee the Bell Witch there and the service members
Speaker 3: would be back in the seventies and eighties, there's records
Speaker 3: of accounts of them seeing figures walking out in the field,
Speaker 3: bigfoot and stuff, you know. And it's pools being opened up,
Speaker 3: you know. And we know in the Book of Daniel,
Speaker 3: when Daniel had prayed, he was fasting for twenty one days,
Speaker 3: and when he had prayed, he an angel, angel or
Speaker 3: as Gabriel approached him and said, you know, the Lord
Speaker 3: has heard your prayer. I've been battling with the Prince
Speaker 3: of Persias. So we know that there is a battle
Speaker 3: in the heavenly realms of things that are going on.
Speaker 3: If you even go to First Corinthians or Second Corinthians
Speaker 3: where Paul brother, they phil feel free to critique me
Speaker 3: if I'm wrong on this. But Paul says, I have
Speaker 3: had a phone in the flesh. I had this demon
Speaker 3: torture me when I read that the apostles face these
Speaker 3: things every single day. They came at them, they attacked
Speaker 3: their lives. But he said, when you were weak, I
Speaker 3: make you strong. So there's something about with going into battle,
Speaker 3: being on the verge of death and you see these
Speaker 3: things and they come at you and you see the
Speaker 3: result of what's going on. And these are part of
Speaker 3: the stories that a lot of service members talk about.
Speaker 3: They talk about multiple things going on these military bases,
Speaker 3: which I think there's other headen agenda's part of it
Speaker 3: as well. M you know, there's there's disclosures of of
Speaker 3: the underground military bases of doing stuff, and I think
Speaker 3: a lot of these wars have been part of that
Speaker 3: purpose of Okay, yeah, we're going to go in there,
Speaker 3: but what else can we find? What else can we
Speaker 3: pull up to try to gain what we need, you know?
Speaker 3: And unfortunately the catastrophe that that that ends up who
Speaker 3: pays who pays the price of service members, you know,
Speaker 3: and with the PTSD mental disorders and whatever the case
Speaker 3: may be. And as a result of it, that's what happens.
Speaker 4: I know. It was shortly after the disclosure project a
Speaker 4: lot of former Navy and Air Force pilots were coming
Speaker 4: forward and talking about, you know, confrontation with craft that's
Speaker 4: not from here, and there was video there's video footage
Speaker 4: from an f A team that shows uh, encounter with
Speaker 4: craft and them trying to pursue it and the thing
Speaker 4: just full gone. There's a story.
Speaker 3: A place that I speaking of that of an Apache
Speaker 3: pilot that is going around talking about that. When they
Speaker 3: were flying one night doing a mission, one of the
Speaker 3: food fighters that was in World War Two. They talked
Speaker 3: about they would go to this location and they were
Speaker 3: conducting missions, these these white balls of yellow and white
Speaker 3: would chase them, chase them all the time. And they
Speaker 3: said those things were so fast. That had a patch
Speaker 3: of helicopters, very very quick. But they said they were
Speaker 3: so fast like you would you would see them, he said,
Speaker 3: like you'd see them go from point A to point B.
Speaker 3: And they clocked it. They clocked it beyond a thousand
Speaker 3: miles and it would just suddenly stop and then it
Speaker 3: would come back and it will be right in front
Speaker 3: of them, and then it would shoot off again, go
Speaker 3: back up, and you don't know where it went. And
Speaker 3: this happened every time they would do a mission in
Speaker 3: this little case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and something like that that defies the laws of physics.
Speaker 2: That's got to be something supernatural, something extraterrestrial, something otherworldly,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and these and these are these are the are
Speaker 3: average people going over there thinking they're going to do
Speaker 3: a mission or they're going out and doing something you
Speaker 3: know that they're possibly gonna die, and they encounter this
Speaker 3: and they're they're more terrified of that versus the Like
Speaker 3: a lot of guys said, I would just rather have
Speaker 3: the Taliban to shoot me because to see that it
Speaker 3: freaked them out because you can't what are you going
Speaker 3: to do with that? How are you going to catch it?
Speaker 3: You can't do it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, like I was saying before, I can only
Speaker 4: imagine the total number of accounts with UH with demonic,
Speaker 4: with the Demonic over there in Iraq and elsewhere. I
Speaker 4: mean I bet that the number of stories are probably
Speaker 4: in the hundreds. And yeah, that says something. There's something
Speaker 4: definitely going on.
Speaker 3: Well you you you historically even look at the battles.
Speaker 3: You know, you talked about Alexander the Great controlled that
Speaker 3: area and you you look in I was trying to
Speaker 3: do the Rechurch today, brother Eric, but you know Daniel
Speaker 3: Daniel talked about Alexander the Great the splitting of the lands.
Speaker 3: I think it was Daniel eight or nine, I think.
Speaker 3: And that's where you get Hanukkah stuff coming into play
Speaker 3: where the land would be split. So you have those
Speaker 3: battles going on at that time that you have Britain,
Speaker 3: you have that you have so union in the US
Speaker 3: and all this stuff, and so there's been so much
Speaker 3: bloodshed there in the land that the these things have
Speaker 3: have been doing what they're doing for so long.
Speaker 4: Oh and and I think as times as time is
Speaker 4: going on, the their frequency is more and more and
Speaker 4: more and more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, more and more and more and more.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 3: The intense because like when you would when you fly
Speaker 3: into the land, because people people talk about it, when
Speaker 3: you fly into the land, when you fly into the country,
Speaker 3: there was always this level of of heaviness, this level
Speaker 3: of burden activity. But when you would leave, it would
Speaker 3: it would It's it's like you can breathe there again.
Speaker 3: That's how that's how intensive land was.
Speaker 8: M hm.
Speaker 3: So so in conclusion, and we could probably talk about
Speaker 3: this more, is that I think that what you're seeing
Speaker 3: with the effects with because you think about it, the
Speaker 3: two wars Iraq and Afghanistan, and they are wars because
Speaker 3: of global volunterorism. There was more PTSD cases in those
Speaker 3: two wars combined versus the Vietnam air and all that,
Speaker 3: because in Vietnam a lot of people were dying. But
Speaker 3: in the result was with the Vietnam though, we saw
Speaker 3: how the search numbers were treated, but a lot of
Speaker 3: them were the first time went to drugs and alcohol,
Speaker 3: which we know drugs were going around for a long time,
Speaker 3: but we saw significant increase. These guys that are coming
Speaker 3: back the PTSD cases shot up like crazy and they
Speaker 3: had the help and stuff. So as a result of it,
Speaker 3: I'm willing to bet with the PTSD and with the
Speaker 3: trauma opened up the area for the demonic and the
Speaker 3: parent normal. And it would not shock me to see
Speaker 3: that that that's what's going on. But we've talked by
Speaker 3: tonight that the reason why they come at people is
Speaker 3: they are they've experienced something that's very traumatic. And we
Speaker 3: know that throughout the scriptures that there were people in
Speaker 3: the scriptures that were facing the same thing as well.
Speaker 3: But the scripture says that the Lord, the Lord is
Speaker 3: near the broken hearted. He's near those that the heart
Speaker 3: is hurting because of that purpose, and I would encourage
Speaker 3: anybody that's hearing this tonight, that's listening to this podcast
Speaker 3: understand that if you're the Lord. The Lord has given
Speaker 3: the Lord has has the authority over these things. And
Speaker 3: I think Brother talked about it, and I say it
Speaker 3: as well in the Book of Romans that says those
Speaker 3: who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Speaker 3: Those who give their life to the Lord, the Lord
Speaker 3: will save them. And the Lord can can heal anyone
Speaker 3: with PTSD mental disorder whatever, because these things are part
Speaker 3: of of of of of the demoniac you know, uh
Speaker 3: you shua would would heal someone. And they were in
Speaker 3: the they were their mind was saying, we go to
Speaker 3: I want to take a look at a passage and
Speaker 3: I think it's Mark chapter four, you know, Mark chapter four,
Speaker 3: and I think it's Mark four.
Speaker 1: Let me see, uh see.
Speaker 2: And while you're doing that, I just I just want
Speaker 2: to say, you know that the giants and the gin
Speaker 2: and and all these things, that makes you wonder what
Speaker 2: else is they're over there? What are there are other
Speaker 2: dark horrors and apparitions and things that we haven't heard
Speaker 2: about or maybe that haven't been unearthed or unleashed yet.
Speaker 2: It's frightening to think about. I mean, yeah, the war
Speaker 2: is bad, that he blow things up and kill people
Speaker 2: and things but the other side of that, the supernatural,
Speaker 2: the darker, even darker side of that, that's terrifying. That's
Speaker 2: like I said, how would you even fight an enemy
Speaker 2: like that, something supernatural or extraterrestrial, that's just beyond the
Speaker 2: mind's ability to conceive.
Speaker 3: Well, I think, you know, I think the key is
Speaker 3: we I think the best example I think of is
Speaker 3: David and Goliath. You know, he he stood in the
Speaker 3: fear of the Lord. You know, he stood in the
Speaker 3: fear of the Lord, and the Lord gave him the
Speaker 3: strength to kill him. And and I've heard so many
Speaker 3: forgive me, brother Eric, I might blow taught by talking
Speaker 3: about this, but I've heard so many stupid biblical interpretations,
Speaker 3: the guys trying to say, oh, the Lord will give
Speaker 3: you the strength to slay the giants, and it's got
Speaker 3: nothing to do with that. I think the problem today
Speaker 3: is the reason why we don't know how to combat
Speaker 3: those things is because it boils down to false biblical teaching.
Speaker 3: If we should never go to seek these things or
Speaker 3: find these things, but we should never be scared when
Speaker 3: these things come at us, because the Lord has given
Speaker 3: us the power of the Holy Spirit to battle these things.
Speaker 3: That's what Athesians. That's what Athesians chapter six is about,
Speaker 3: putting on the full armor of God when these things
Speaker 3: come at you. But I look at Mark chapter five.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 3: This was when the Lord was dealing with the demoniac
Speaker 3: and he was literally taking the stones and cutting it.
Speaker 3: And the scripture says is that when I think that
Speaker 3: when he healed he was in his right mind, that
Speaker 3: they proclaimed how how much Jesus had done for him,
Speaker 3: and everyone was marveled. So this man was going to
Speaker 3: the tombs at night and he was he had so
Speaker 3: much strength, and he was taking stones. He was cutting himself,
Speaker 3: which I think cutting that people do is influenced by
Speaker 3: a demon. But he's taking bare stones and if you've
Speaker 3: ever seen the stones in the Middle East, this is
Speaker 3: a dull stone, and he's cutting himself and only blood
Speaker 3: was coming out. But when they saw him after the
Speaker 3: Lord had healed him, he was normal again. The unclean
Speaker 3: spirits were gone, like they were marveled by this man.
Speaker 3: Is like is sanity. And that's the thing that the
Speaker 3: Lord can do for those that are struggling with this,
Speaker 3: is that if they give their life to him, these
Speaker 3: spirits will will leave and go away because the power
Speaker 3: of the Lord. The Gospel can transform and save those
Speaker 3: And if anyone is listening to this, as you're listening
Speaker 3: to this, if you're a service member, give your life
Speaker 3: to the Lord. Turn to him. We're pent today, Come
Speaker 3: to know and me, Come and meet the Master. You
Speaker 3: don't have to be scared by this stuff. If it's
Speaker 3: going on in your home. The Lord can heal if
Speaker 3: if you've been in combat and you're wanting to know, Man,
Speaker 3: I killed somebody I had a duty to do, is
Speaker 3: there forgiveness? There is forgiveness from the Lord. The Lord
Speaker 3: can heal you. The Lord can turn to you if
Speaker 3: you were pent today and come to know him. So
Speaker 3: sorry to mean to venture off on that, but I
Speaker 3: just felt heard to talk about that.
Speaker 2: Oh it's good, Yeah, yeah, quite quite all right there,
Speaker 2: So go.
Speaker 3: Ahead, no, y'all, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say we're coming up on the last
Speaker 2: seven or so minutes here. If you guys have anything
Speaker 2: you want to say in conclusion to what we've talked
Speaker 2: about here tonight, and then let anybody listening know where
Speaker 2: they can find you. People that are seeking help or
Speaker 2: seeking clarification, or that need little guidance, whichever one of
Speaker 2: you wants to go first, and any closing statements that
Speaker 2: feel free.
Speaker 4: Well, I would definitely say any oh, okay, I definitely
Speaker 4: say anyone who has been involved in the occult, or
Speaker 4: who is in the occult, or a soldier that has
Speaker 4: witnessed these things, you know there's one path that delivers
Speaker 4: from it, and that is your show it. That is
Speaker 4: Jesus John fourteen six. He says, I am the truth
Speaker 4: the way in the life. If you're seeking the truth,
Speaker 4: the Messiah is the truth. He is the truth, and
Speaker 4: there is deliverance from these things. There's salvation, eternal security
Speaker 4: and just peace, peace that the Lord does give. So
Speaker 4: I courage anyone who is listening tonight, if you've experienced
Speaker 4: these things, if you've been involved, seek the Lord and
Speaker 4: everything you need to know about him. What he does,
Speaker 4: how he does, and what he promises and what he
Speaker 4: delivers is in the Bible. It is in the scriptures.
Speaker 4: And we can also be reached at Sound the sho
Speaker 4: Far Messianic Ministries on Facebook, and if you want to
Speaker 4: leave us a message, please feel free and we will
Speaker 4: answer back.
Speaker 2: I think more than that, I'm sorry, go ahead, pastor justin.
Speaker 3: I think for me. The verse that comes to mind
Speaker 3: is Glossians two fourteen and fifteen. By canceling the record
Speaker 3: of debt that stood against us with its legal demands,
Speaker 3: he set it aside, nailing it to the cross. He
Speaker 3: disarmed the rulers and authorities. He put them to open
Speaker 3: shame by trumpling over them and him. So it goes
Speaker 3: to show you that this verse alone, that whatever contract
Speaker 3: you may have had with these demonic entities, whatever authority
Speaker 3: they think they have, this verse tells you that he
Speaker 3: put it on the cross, he nailed it, and when
Speaker 3: he died, he took the authority away from the principalities
Speaker 3: of darkness. He has the authority, he's always had it,
Speaker 3: and he gives us that authority through his name to
Speaker 3: cast out these things, to remove them in our lives.
Speaker 3: If we walk in his power, walk in his spirit,
Speaker 3: these things will not have authority. The danger is, when
Speaker 3: you become a believer, is constantly going back to that stuff,
Speaker 3: and when you surrender your life to those things, they
Speaker 3: will take control, and they will have they will be there.
Speaker 3: But this goes to show you that he has legally
Speaker 3: removed all this stuff, and he's taking it away and
Speaker 3: for those that don't know him come to know him
Speaker 3: soon before he returns, because when he returns, that's it.
Speaker 2: Right, some good sound advice there. Well, gentlemen, again, I
Speaker 2: want to thank you for joining me here on everything
Speaker 2: out there, and as always I'm blown away just so
Speaker 2: much information here to process, so much good news. I mean,
Speaker 2: we talked about Satanism and the hippie movement and then
Speaker 2: all the way to the other side of the world
Speaker 2: for what's going on in Afghanistan or what was going on,
Speaker 2: and I assume still going on there. But I want
Speaker 2: to thank you for your time, thank you for being here,
Speaker 2: and once again tell the people about Sounding the show
Speaker 2: Far Messianic Ministries, what it's all about, where they can
Speaker 2: find you and the messages that you broadcast over there
Speaker 2: a couple of times a week.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's Sound the show Far Messianic Ministries on Facebook.
Speaker 4: There's a whole video library of sermons and messages. We
Speaker 4: come on three times a week. Wednesday night is an
Speaker 4: end time study, Friday nights and Saturday nights are and
Speaker 4: you can find us there again. You could leave messages
Speaker 4: and we will get back to you as soon as
Speaker 4: we can, and we'd love to hear from you, yeap,
Speaker 4: and thank you so much, Brother Steve again.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's it's always a blessing to have you
Speaker 2: guys on and justin. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh and I was gonna say, unlike us, we're not
Speaker 3: like these high top quality people. You gotta hey, can
Speaker 3: you really do? Know you reach out to you, We're
Speaker 3: gonna We're gonna talk to you like human beings. We're
Speaker 3: nobody special. And I think that's that's what I love
Speaker 3: about brother, brother Steve and various people is is the
Speaker 3: humility to do that because the danger in doing the
Speaker 3: stuff people will think I don't have to talk to
Speaker 3: you do you know how many books I've written, And
Speaker 3: that's part of a form of witchcraft as well. So anyway,
Speaker 3: just wanted to bring that up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you guys are just good, regular folks. But
Speaker 2: you've got to the power and the calling put on
Speaker 2: you to minister the folks. I mean literally, it is
Speaker 2: a ministry and that's what you do, and you do
Speaker 2: a good job of it because that's what's been laid
Speaker 2: on your hearts to do. All right, Well, that's going
Speaker 2: to wrap it up for this episode of Everything out There.
Speaker 2: I'm Steve Stockton here on the Clyde Lewis Ground the
Speaker 2: Zero Radio Network, and on behalf of pastors Eric and
Speaker 2: Justin from Sound the so far Messianic Ministeries and myself.
Speaker 2: We'll see you a little further on down the trail.
Speaker 2: Tell your animals I said Hi. Good night everybody.
Speaker 4: Night night.
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