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<v Speaker 1>You see something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What what's going to happen? I'll tak what help. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to the Occult Rejects. In this episode, you got me

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<v Speaker 2>and my boy Headless Giant, and uh as I, as

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<v Speaker 2>far as I know now, woul assume it's just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be us two the whole time. But I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>never know. But hey, it's a first day of the

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<v Speaker 2>new series. We're going to be trying. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>cover seven seven seven by Alista Crowley as best as

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<v Speaker 2>we can. Uh you know, from our experiences of using

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<v Speaker 2>it or there things that come up in there that

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<v Speaker 2>we have experience with you will go on with it,

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<v Speaker 2>and some stuff that we don't have experience, we'll obviously

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<v Speaker 2>read over it, just so you get an idea of

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<v Speaker 2>what's in there. I and Headless were even saying prior

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<v Speaker 2>to the show, I do think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are actually misunderstood about what's actually inside this book. Not

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<v Speaker 2>saying I'm promoting it and saying everybody go out and

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<v Speaker 2>get it and start reading it like a Bible. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't think this is probably as many

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<v Speaker 2>dicks and demons in here as everybody thinks that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But before we go on, is there anything you

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<v Speaker 2>want to say about this head list? I know, I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're a big fan of this book as well,

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<v Speaker 2>so well.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Alistair Crowley's Kabbala. So if you're wondering about

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<v Speaker 1>all of the associations and the worldview that Crowley had,

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<v Speaker 1>don't go to the podcast. Go to seven seven seven,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is going to give you sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>view into his subconscious mind as well as his studies

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<v Speaker 1>and all the rest of this stuff. That's that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of important because it's shaping a

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<v Speaker 1>whole generation of occultists, right. All the occultists of this

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<v Speaker 1>generation had his book so that they could have those

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<v Speaker 1>associations on hand. This is the ultimate reference guide for

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<v Speaker 1>the Crowley and point of view. Yeah, so that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>why we're covering it.

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<v Speaker 2>And if there's any I guarantee you, if there's any

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<v Speaker 2>witches in Chat or wickens in Chat that don't even

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<v Speaker 2>like Crowley, some of you out there it might even

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<v Speaker 2>be able to contest and say I still use that book.

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<v Speaker 2>I have heard that so many times from people in

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<v Speaker 2>the witchcraft and the cold community. I don't like Croley

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<v Speaker 2>but I still use this seven seven seven. I've known

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<v Speaker 2>wicks that have you know, witches that are into you know,

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<v Speaker 2>typical ceremonial magic, still use that book. So obviously it's

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<v Speaker 2>an impact regardless if you think it's real or not.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, It is influenced. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a huge chunk of ceremonial practices since I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>since this came.

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<v Speaker 1>Out, you know, right right early nineteen hundred, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>still having influence today. We're still reading it to you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's probably gonna shape some of those subconscious associations yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the other things I wanted to cover

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<v Speaker 1>is you can follow along too. I put the link

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<v Speaker 1>in the chat, but if you can't find it there,

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<v Speaker 1>you could also look on Internet archives seven to seven

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<v Speaker 1>seven and you'll find it there as well. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's free if you want to get your hands on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And one thing I do want to mention that

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<v Speaker 2>Young Stitch is eight over here said or eighty eight

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<v Speaker 2>or eight Young Stitches eight. Uh, this is before Thalma,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's pret aonic, So I mean it was before

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<v Speaker 2>he became who he became, I guess, So all right,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want me to start it off? Oh? Sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, yeah, we'll pull it up to uh, let

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<v Speaker 2>you guys see it here. Let me maybe I can

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<v Speaker 2>blow it up a little bit, make it look a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit better for you guys. But I do highly

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<v Speaker 2>suggest if you can to grab the grab the PDF

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<v Speaker 2>for the book and read along with it. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go, take these glasses of us. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a unique collection of Kabbalistic texts without parallel in the

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<v Speaker 2>entire history of this vast mystical literature, all of them

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<v Speaker 2>belonging to the very early professional career of Alista Crowley.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a is they were written before he had

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<v Speaker 2>reached the age of forty years, as every student of

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<v Speaker 2>the Croley corpus of writing should know. However, they were

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<v Speaker 2>used constantly and continuously by him throughout his lifetime. So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I would hope if you put this out

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<v Speaker 2>he adhered to his own work. But they're even saying

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<v Speaker 2>he used it.

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<v Speaker 1>Himself absolutely in the obscure footnotes to the Vision and

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<v Speaker 1>the Voice Sangreal Foundation, Dallas, nineteen seventy two. That's an

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<v Speaker 1>important place there. Yeah, elis in the nineteen sixties, interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>which I recently edited. It soon became evident that a

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<v Speaker 1>few of those explanatory notes of his would make a

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<v Speaker 1>rhyme or reason to the average student unless he were

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<v Speaker 1>exceedingly well grounded in the material and methods delineate delineated

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<v Speaker 1>in those books. All three need to be studied a

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<v Speaker 1>studious over a long period of time before those footnotes

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<v Speaker 1>become intelligible to any degree, or until the intrinsic value

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<v Speaker 1>of the text themselves is perceived as being of the

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<v Speaker 1>purest goal little alchemy for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one thing I do want to mention that it's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting they said the Vision in the Voice, Dallas, nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy two. As far as I know, if this is

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<v Speaker 2>talking about what they're talking about. The Vision in the

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<v Speaker 2>Voice is now located in Austin, Texas in a different library,

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<v Speaker 2>But you can go there and see his handwritten notes.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a fuck ton of pictures in video

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<v Speaker 2>of it? And I am thinking about possibly showing it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you have the chance to go down there

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<v Speaker 2>and look at that, you will see him literally doing

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<v Speaker 2>drumatria fitting words in. He's using that word rose and

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing the mads for it. He's not talking about

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<v Speaker 2>his girl all the time he is doing something else

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<v Speaker 2>when he says their names. Sometimes you can see that.

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<v Speaker 2>I will even say, for the Sjw's out there who

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<v Speaker 2>coucked for Crowley. This some stuff you might see him

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<v Speaker 2>writ in there that might offend you some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>offensive names for certain types of people. He may not

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<v Speaker 2>be the you know, the great man you thought he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just like everybody else, you know, all right, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The first of these three texts is actually one of

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<v Speaker 2>the installments from the Equinox, the fifth containing a biographical

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<v Speaker 2>sal sorry containing a biographical serial entitled The Temple of

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<v Speaker 2>King Solomon. The serial strove to present a more or

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<v Speaker 2>less dynamic picture of the personality of Alista Crowley or

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<v Speaker 2>Frader pert Rabo, which is something you called himself, per Rabbo.

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<v Speaker 2>He's called himself the Beast and a few other names.

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<v Speaker 2>I think to use his order name in the course

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<v Speaker 2>of his progress along the mystical and magical path. The

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<v Speaker 2>first few installments were written by one of his major

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<v Speaker 2>disciples of the first decade of this century, Captain uh

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<v Speaker 2>later General J. F. C. Fuller. After a while, these

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<v Speaker 2>two men separated as separated as narrated in the Confessions

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<v Speaker 2>of Alista Crowley. The result was that Crowley, being left

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the lurch as it were, wrote the

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<v Speaker 2>fifth installment as a kind of filler, enabling him to

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<v Speaker 2>find time to resume the narrative of his attainment, interrupted

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<v Speaker 2>by Fuller's departure. That's fine. That reminds me of It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it sounds shitty. Sometimes I'll do like filler shows

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm in between, like trying to do more in depth.

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<v Speaker 2>Once it's like, yeah, I kind of get what you

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<v Speaker 2>get in at dude. Oh sorry, great.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, we left out the part that this is a

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<v Speaker 1>ford written by Israel Regardos. Oh yeah, Alchemist Handbook also

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<v Speaker 1>has a ford written by Israel Regarded So he's getting

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<v Speaker 1>all over back then he's got his hand in everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So he might have had his hand in Alista Crowley at.

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<v Speaker 1>One at some point might have The filler has nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do in reality with the biographical narrative. It consisted

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<v Speaker 1>of a set of cobbalistic and pragmatic notes on number

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<v Speaker 1>that Crowley had accumulated over the years, which he now

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<v Speaker 1>tied together for his purposes. It consisted of a study

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<v Speaker 1>of one phase of the Kabbalistic process, which is held

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<v Speaker 1>in rather poor esteem today, mostly so, I believe, because

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of the modern writers have not been able

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<v Speaker 1>to penetrate its mystery, they cannot cope with it in

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<v Speaker 1>any way. They regard it unfortunately on par with common

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<v Speaker 1>practice of numerology and fortune telling, thus missing the boat entirely.

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<v Speaker 2>Jumatria, as this process is named, is pronounced as je

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<v Speaker 2>whatever a mutt rhea. As a method, it reminds me

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat of the mystery surrounding the usage of the coan

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<v Speaker 2>at first sight first site nothing but perfect nonsense, this

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<v Speaker 2>taking liberties with names and letters and numbers. But in

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<v Speaker 2>point of fact, just as the coan is a meaningful

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<v Speaker 2>but not necessary rational statement made from a mystical level

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<v Speaker 2>of consciousness, so also it may be used to induce

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<v Speaker 2>a similar type of illumination in the determined student who

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<v Speaker 2>uses it. Depending on the spiritual state of the reader,

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<v Speaker 2>Jamatria will be perceived either as nonsense of the most

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<v Speaker 2>grotesque description, or it will awaken some smoke riom similacrum

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<v Speaker 2>of the mystical state originally experienced by its writer. That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's having these illumination experiences and saying that understanding

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<v Speaker 1>the Gematria in a certain frame of mind can induce

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<v Speaker 1>the same similar state of consciousness. Very interesting. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>see if he studies crowley exposition of the number four

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen in this book Jamatria, for example, something of this

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<v Speaker 1>high point of view may be perceived. It was not arbitrary,

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<v Speaker 1>arbitrarily chosen as an important or significant number for him,

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<v Speaker 1>or for that matter, anyone else, And so with many

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<v Speaker 1>other numbers. This method does have definite sphere of usefulness

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<v Speaker 1>and a vital place in cabalistic exogetical process, but it

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<v Speaker 1>does require to be understood.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't like that word either. Whatever, never for

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<v Speaker 2>one moment suspect Crowley of gullibility, ornate, or being naive.

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<v Speaker 2>They seem at first sight as if he were. But

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<v Speaker 2>read the first few pages of the essay on Jamatria,

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<v Speaker 2>where you will notice his satire, his ridicule, his ridicule,

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<v Speaker 2>and his humor. This should never be ignored or minimized.

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<v Speaker 2>He never had difficulty pulking fun at himself or the

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<v Speaker 2>methods he used for different purposes. It saved him from

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<v Speaker 2>being gullible in crudelity, the curse of the average occult student.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of his conclusions on his numerical manipulations, therefore, are

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<v Speaker 2>entitled at the very least to some scrutiny and examination,

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<v Speaker 2>and this in turn may lead to respect. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>I have always been profoundly impressed by his handling of

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<v Speaker 2>the number nine, one three, equinox one, number five, page

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<v Speaker 2>one oh seven. It is the jamatria of God, this

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<v Speaker 2>name barasheth barashith, a Hebrew word meaning the beginning, the

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<v Speaker 2>first word of the Book of Genesis. He starts with

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<v Speaker 2>a discussion of the number nine and reduces it by

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<v Speaker 2>several brilliant permutations and attributions to one, stating that the

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<v Speaker 2>many being the many being but veils of the one,

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<v Speaker 2>and the course of argument leads one to knowledge and

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<v Speaker 2>worship of each number. In turn, in concluding the lengthy analysis,

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<v Speaker 2>he does state explicitly that nine is not equal to

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<v Speaker 2>one for the neophyte. These equivalences are dogmatic and only

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<v Speaker 2>true by favor of Him in whom all is truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Any man who can write thus of a subject which

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<v Speaker 1>is taboo because capable of infinite abuse, and which has

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<v Speaker 1>earned the contempt of several reasonable students of the mysteries,

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<v Speaker 2>Nice. The second of these liber seven seven seven has

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven. I'll read the next one too. The book

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<v Speaker 1>There is a wealth of valuable material here just waiting

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<v Speaker 1>to be used. Many writers have done so without due acknowledgement.

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<v Speaker 1>relates to comparative religion and mythology, including precious stones, herbs, plants,

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<v Speaker 1>to these topics. At one time I experimented allocating the

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<v Speaker 1>elements on the atomic scale to this tree, with some

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<v Speaker 1>modicum of success somewhere along the lines. It's so funny

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<v Speaker 1>The number of those Greek gods also corresponds with those elements.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to get somebody on like that. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>The occult elements that would be fantastic. Yeah, it showed

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<v Speaker 2>And another thing I just want to mention, like you

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again do reference to science, and people

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<v Speaker 2>say the toll you right here?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Let me see somewhere along the line in the

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<v Speaker 1>course of my mini travels, this set of attributions has

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<v Speaker 1>It is mentioned here though, in the hope that this

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<v Speaker 1>So what they're talking about is a memory palace, the

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<v Speaker 1>series on Oh guy was burnt at the Stag Georda Bruno. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he impressed uh, I forgot to King Henry. One

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<v Speaker 2>of them was somebody. He impressed somebody and they gave

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<v Speaker 2>him money. They said, like he was almost like encyclopedia,

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<v Speaker 2>like fucking kid like memories, crazy shit like that. And

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<v Speaker 2>he swore it was from literally from staring at certain

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<v Speaker 2>sigils and certain uh, certain Hebrew letters and like just

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<v Speaker 2>going around in a fucking wheel. After six months, he

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<v Speaker 2>says it should work. Imagine that shit works and people

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<v Speaker 2>out there actually know it right, right, people who still

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, And that was one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that was hard to find, Like they had to reconstruct

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<v Speaker 1>Libra seven seven seven created a new type of literature

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<v Speaker 1>when it first appeared. It was the first of its kind,

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<v Speaker 1>and Crowley deserves credit for that, even if some of

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's true. The lb r P and the hextagram,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not his. A lot of people again, people by

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<v Speaker 2>like how you covering Crowley and you constantly shit on them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the fact that like too many people give

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<v Speaker 2>this guy too much credit. Unfortunately, in different ways. Put

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<v Speaker 2>it that way. You know, when they want to ship

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<v Speaker 2>fucking specific origual out there, every ritual out there. Crawley

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<v Speaker 2>did it, Curly did it, Curly did No, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get over you, so right right, so alcoholic. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>end up writing the next one in order to get

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<v Speaker 2>There are some modern books outside the Croley Corpus which

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<v Speaker 2>could be consulted to considerable advantage. Of course, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the Unfortune. First of all, there is

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<v Speaker 2>is a good book, which is similarly based on the

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<v Speaker 2>Golden Door material. Its value lies in the manner in

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<v Speaker 2>which she has considered each item in each detail, with

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<v Speaker 2>an exposition which ties them all together intelligibly. I'll do

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<v Speaker 2>the next one just parallel this to William Garry's Ladder

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<v Speaker 2>of Lights, which is another elucidation of the tree from

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<v Speaker 2>a different viewpoint, but equally illuminating. Both of these books aurelimited, however,

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<v Speaker 2>merely to a study of the ten Sepharoath the main

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<v Speaker 2>categories of the tree. Supplementing these this is another amazing book.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm actually wondering if this is how I came

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<v Speaker 2>across the guy's book Supplementing these is Gareth Knight's practical

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<v Speaker 2>course and Babbelistic symbolism. Honestly, when anybody ever does ask

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<v Speaker 2>send them as a PDF. So if people are interested

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<v Speaker 2>in it, I highly suggest that because it touches on

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<v Speaker 2>the paths besides the spheres huge, I think, which extends

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<v Speaker 1>I still got them all highlighted, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Extends the scope of the previous two books. By studying

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<v Speaker 2>which to learn to appreciate the enormously valuable task performed

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<v Speaker 2>by Crole and Libra seven seven several decades ago. The student.

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<v Speaker 2>What's funny that they're even suggesting that book. That guy

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<v Speaker 2>does shit on Crowley a few times, and they're saying

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<v Speaker 2>he's wrong, he doesn't agree with his the way he

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<v Speaker 2>looks at it, So that's impressive that they're even suggesting

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<v Speaker 2>someone like that. The student can accept as much or

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<v Speaker 2>as little of the philosophy described in the above name

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<v Speaker 2>books as he wishes. It does not matter, so long

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<v Speaker 2>as the basic schema is understood and applied to Libra

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<v Speaker 2>seven seven. I foresee but little difficulty in this task.

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<v Speaker 1>The third volume included here is cepher sephar Oath, which

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<v Speaker 1>means simply the Book of Numbers. It is extrapolated from

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<v Speaker 1>Equinox one number eight. Originally, the book was started by

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Bennett, one of the Golden Dawn adapts, who took

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<v Speaker 1>Crowley under his wing, grounded him in the fundamental process

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<v Speaker 1>of magic, kabbala and meditation. He must have been the

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<v Speaker 1>most exemplar extraordinary man, for his mark on Crowley proved

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<v Speaker 1>to be indelible. And there are a few whom this

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<v Speaker 1>may be said. Because he was such a narcissist. Alan

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<v Speaker 1>reproduced in one or another or several volumes in the Equinoxes.

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<v Speaker 1>They are worthy of being referred to as they're referred to.

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<v Speaker 1>A Note on Genesis is a brilliant piece of exposition

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<v Speaker 1>of Kabbalistic principles, demonstrating the whole gamut of Golden Dawn teachings.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the Kabbalistic methods described here. For this reason

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<v Speaker 1>alone it should be studied. The other was written after

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<v Speaker 1>he had abandoned the order to become a Buddhist monk,

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<v Speaker 1>with the sacramental name of b Q b h Ananda Metia.

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<v Speaker 1>It is entitled The Training of the Mind, a Study

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<v Speaker 1>of the Buddhist Way of Life. Both essays show a

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<v Speaker 1>fine caliber of his mind, demonstrating why Crowley was so

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<v Speaker 1>profoundly impressed by him. Anyway, this book is due in

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<v Speaker 1>large measure to the efforts which Crowley continued.

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<v Speaker 2>Consists of hundreds of Hebrew words selected from several sources

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<v Speaker 2>that are listed in the front of the text. Most

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<v Speaker 2>of the words are from the Old Testament in a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of non Zoric texts translated by McGregor Mathers under

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<v Speaker 2>the title of the Kabbala Unveiled. It's a good one too,

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<v Speaker 2>from the latinition of Nora von Rosenroth. These words are

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<v Speaker 2>arranged according to their numerical value by Bennett. The process

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<v Speaker 2>and additional words were continued by Crowley after he had

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<v Speaker 2>inherited the book from his mentor. There are some strange

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<v Speaker 2>dematriary combinations to be found there, but it is traditionally

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<v Speaker 2>assumed that if two words have the same number of value,

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<v Speaker 2>a connection of some kind may be said to exist

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<v Speaker 2>between them. At first sight. In some instances, no such

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<v Speaker 2>relationship may be perceived, But if the student persists in

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<v Speaker 2>his study and meditation, he may come to realize something

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<v Speaker 2>of the profoundities of these subtle connections and associations that

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<v Speaker 2>are not immediately perceived. I have taken the liberty of

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<v Speaker 2>deleting a table of factor, which is which in reality

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<v Speaker 2>has nothing whatsoever to do with in my opinion, is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the occasional examples of Crowley's in exhibition them.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes he just had to demonstrate his erudition much much much.

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<v Speaker 2>The same is true of many numbers in the last

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<v Speaker 2>their corresponding Hebrew words that could be condensed and work

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<v Speaker 2>closer together, these pages are omitted because there are no

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<v Speaker 2>corresponding Hebrew word. There was no There are no corresponding

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<v Speaker 2>Hebrew words listed for the time being. They are just

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<v Speaker 1>That the serious student, what's that?

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<v Speaker 2>I said? They should have They still should have left

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<v Speaker 2>it in there. I would have let you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably actually like him figuring it out like I was

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<v Speaker 2>saying about the vision and the voice, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I got a put note on mine that says this

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<v Speaker 1>table is included in the by the publisher in the

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<v Speaker 1>third edition in nineteen seventy five. So they actually did

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<v Speaker 1>leave it out.

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<v Speaker 1>While it is true that the serious student might study

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<v Speaker 1>other cabalistic texts and in the future discover new Hebrew

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<v Speaker 1>he should make his own additions to suffer Sepharoth in

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<v Speaker 1>certain new strings of numbers, to make a place for

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<v Speaker 1>his newly found words. And that is it should be,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is as it should be. There should be

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<v Speaker 1>nothing fixed or rigid about any of these three books.

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<v Speaker 1>They could be supplemented and expanded by the explorations of

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<v Speaker 1>each student, depending on his own judgment and ingenuity. But

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<v Speaker 1>he must not fall into the pitfall of some modern writers, who,

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<v Speaker 1>having no sympathy or understanding of the process, decry it

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<v Speaker 1>and declare it of little value. In the cabalistic scheme,

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<v Speaker 1>of things. I'm also I am also omitting Crowley's preface

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<v Speaker 1>to the book. It is an that's the malicious piece

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<v Speaker 1>of writing, and it does not do justice to the

430
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<v Speaker 1>system with which he is dealing. Every so often Crowley

431
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<v Speaker 1>falls from one of the heights which he has seen

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<v Speaker 1>and swallows someone else's folly, someone whom he had the

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<v Speaker 1>occasion to admire. In this case, Sir Richard Burton not

434
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<v Speaker 1>always a wholly reliable authority outside the Arabian nights.

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<v Speaker 2>The essay on Jamatria and Cephas Sepharoth should be studied together.

436
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<v Speaker 2>Some of the profundities of this first of the first

437
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<v Speaker 2>will never be perceived until one has meditated long and

438
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<v Speaker 2>often on some of the words analyzed in that essay.

439
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<v Speaker 2>I must confess that every now and again, during the

440
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<v Speaker 2>course of my life, I have experienced a thorough going

441
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<v Speaker 2>revulsion to Crowley as a person, resulting in the total

442
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<v Speaker 2>rejection and neglect of what he has written. Days, weeks,

443
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<v Speaker 2>once or years may elapse. Then accidentally I stumble across

444
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<v Speaker 2>something he wrote, such as Jamatria, becomes so engrossed in

445
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<v Speaker 2>a navid of his ingenuity and inspiration that my revulsion

446
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:11.680
<v Speaker 2>becomes almost immediately transcended. This is probably more true of

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<v Speaker 2>Jamachia than either of the two. Here included. The student

448
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<v Speaker 2>who has missed the excitement and inner elevation experience by Jamatia,

449
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<v Speaker 2>whether of his own making or merely reading Crowley, has

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<v Speaker 2>missed a very great deal. Do you want me to

451
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<v Speaker 2>keep going?

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<v Speaker 1>One scholar recently, oh, I can hit it. One scholar

453
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<v Speaker 1>recently suggested to me that a letter that Crowley's knowledge

454
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<v Speaker 1>of Hebrew was most limited. He made a very impressive

455
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<v Speaker 1>showing only in some ways I'm inclined to agree. But

456
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<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, what little he did know he

457
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<v Speaker 1>has used extremely effectively and creatively. Anyways, he was not

458
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<v Speaker 1>a dull bluffer like Arthur Edward Waite, who pretended all

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<v Speaker 1>to all sorts of linguistic and scholastic skills he in

460
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<v Speaker 1>fact never had, take for example his sorry about that.

461
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<v Speaker 1>Take for example his book The Secret Doctrine in Israel,

462
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<v Speaker 1>which is a lengthy analysis of the Zohar. That book

463
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<v Speaker 1>was not written until after a French translation of the

464
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<v Speaker 1>Zohar had been made, and of course long been before

465
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<v Speaker 1>the English one had appeared. The footnotes bear ample testimony

466
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<v Speaker 1>to this conclusion. Yet he pretended years prior to that

467
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<v Speaker 1>book that his Latin and Hebrew were more than adequate

468
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<v Speaker 1>to the task, although they were not. Even His Latin

469
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<v Speaker 1>translations of many alchemical texts were merely good editing jobs,

470
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<v Speaker 1>the translators having been, amongst others, some elderly Anglican priests

471
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<v Speaker 1>preferring to remain, if not in anonymous, then in obscurity,

472
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<v Speaker 1>who had got mixed up in the Golden Dawn and

473
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<v Speaker 1>the occult art in general. They did the donkey work

474
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<v Speaker 1>of translating donkey, remember the donkey.

475
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you're just talking about that.

476
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Uh, translating difficult material. But wait, got all the

477
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<v Speaker 1>glory and the swollen head. Whatever maybe said of Alistair

478
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<v Speaker 1>Crowley's inflated ego, and I have often said perhaps too

479
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>much about this, he never stooped quite that low. Very interesting,

480
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, agent gossip.

481
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<v Speaker 2>He's even saying your Croles fucked up and this motherfucker

482
00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:39.440
<v Speaker 2>was worse. All of this makes the book that Kabbala

483
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<v Speaker 2>have asked the Croley a greater interest to the average

484
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<v Speaker 2>good student, whose Hebrew may be no better or no

485
00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:48.599
<v Speaker 2>worse than that of Croley. Uh it may be given,

486
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<v Speaker 2>uh it maybe it may give him heart to pursue

487
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<v Speaker 2>his own personal adenda to those books and become as

488
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<v Speaker 2>good a cobbolist as was Croley. Finally, let me add

489
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<v Speaker 2>that the students should own a good Hebrew English lexicon.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps one of the best ways of using this is

491
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<v Speaker 2>to browse through it at random, casually as it were,

492
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<v Speaker 2>and then, as his interest and excitement mount, look for

493
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<v Speaker 2>certain words deliberately and methodically. For example, for example, open

494
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<v Speaker 2>the lexicon at random and on that particular page, point

495
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<v Speaker 2>carelessly to the first word noticed. Transfer the word and

496
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<v Speaker 2>its translation to a sheet of paper, and then work

497
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<v Speaker 2>out its jamatia. Then turn to sepher sepharoth to see

498
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<v Speaker 2>if that number and word are represented. If not, add

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<v Speaker 2>them using page inserts if necessary. Make special entries of

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<v Speaker 2>such words as time proceeds. Certain other words. Certain other

501
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<v Speaker 2>words will evoke special interest and should be treated in

502
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<v Speaker 2>the same manner. Try to follow Crowley's analysis of what

503
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<v Speaker 2>was that name? Bearshith again bearschith you said in the

504
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<v Speaker 2>essay jamachia as a model for the management of these words,

505
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<v Speaker 2>and as the basis for meditation to lead to the

506
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<v Speaker 2>highest That's interesting that he you are muted the headless.

507
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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting that he is a he's mentioning that I,

508
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<v Speaker 2>for all I know, I either don't remember. But the

509
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<v Speaker 2>way they're explaining I was, like, you said, what I

510
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<v Speaker 2>was trying to do with my jomatry, you know how

511
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<v Speaker 2>I have that like jamatia thing up on the site

512
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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't want to put it into a book.

513
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<v Speaker 2>It was actually kind of like you're being able to

514
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<v Speaker 2>take the numerical value and run it to that book

515
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<v Speaker 2>to see what it matches. That was kind of the

516
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<v Speaker 2>way I had it. So it's interesting to know. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you could do that with one of.

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<v Speaker 1>His right, But they're they're going for a type of

519
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:39.759
<v Speaker 1>libromancy here. So you're just opening the lexicon at random

520
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<v Speaker 1>and then working through it like it's an exercise. But

521
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<v Speaker 1>in the process you're going to get a lot of

522
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<v Speaker 1>meaning that you can see through. But also we've got

523
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<v Speaker 1>the Jamatria calculator now, which is like ten times easier

524
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<v Speaker 1>than what they're suggesting in this book.

525
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you imagine that back in the day you had

526
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<v Speaker 2>to write everything down and figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Here are a couple of examples. I opened

528
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<v Speaker 1>the lexicon at random too, and selected two words a

529
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:10.079
<v Speaker 1>variety of cabalistic methods may be used to elaborate on them.

530
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<v Speaker 1>Practice will produce the skill and insight. The first word

531
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>selected and was one meaning empty. In Hebrew it is

532
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:24.839
<v Speaker 1>spelled and you and non iron valv rash. This thus,

533
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:30.119
<v Speaker 1>it's chamatria is fifty, seventy six and two hundred, totaling

534
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>three hundred and twenty six. This is a number that

535
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<v Speaker 1>is listed in the Sepher Sephar, and surprisingly is that

536
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:45.319
<v Speaker 1>of Yeheshua Yeshua Redeemer. The word for vision also comes

537
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<v Speaker 1>within the purview of this number. Our lexicon word empty

538
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 1>may seem a far cry from any of those other

539
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:59.519
<v Speaker 1>words just mentioned, but see what little meditation can do.

540
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<v Speaker 1>Having followed the similar procedure used by alis Chacrole relative

541
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 1>to Burasha. Yes, a lot of Gnostic Christians believe Christ

542
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:14.880
<v Speaker 1>is emptiness because of that word. Another word selected at

543
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<v Speaker 1>random defit de fact or what In Hebrew, this is

544
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:28.359
<v Speaker 1>spelled Czech semach resh vav final nun It's chamatria comes two,

545
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<v Speaker 1>three twenty four, counting the nun as fifty. This too

546
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<v Speaker 1>is another number already in Cephra Sephar Oath, but it

547
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:41.160
<v Speaker 1>is worth comparing with the words already given there redness, darkness, roaring,

548
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>et cetera. All three of these Kabbalistic texts must be

549
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:50.559
<v Speaker 1>consulted to make sense of these apparently unrelated words and numbers.

550
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<v Speaker 1>The process thus becomes a test for one's cabalistic knowledge

551
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>and skill. But more importantly, the process becomes a stimulus

552
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:03.079
<v Speaker 1>for the surrender of the mind to the mystical experience

553
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:07.279
<v Speaker 1>which the one is seen to be all and vice versa.

554
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<v Speaker 1>Back to the experiencing this altered frame of consciousness.

555
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<v Speaker 2>I'll just I just want to have the pleasure to

556
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<v Speaker 2>just finish it off.

557
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<v Speaker 1>All right. There are simply no limits to be set

558
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<v Speaker 1>to the applications of these numerical processes. It will take

559
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 1>only a little patience and experience for the sincere and

560
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:32.320
<v Speaker 1>ingenious student to be to become aware of the possibilities

561
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>inherent in the Jamatria, and he will conclude by developing

562
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:41.559
<v Speaker 1>a fine appreciation for the value, individually and collectively of

563
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<v Speaker 1>these three books assembled for the first time as the

564
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<v Speaker 1>Kabbala of Alistair Crawley that is written by Israel Regardi.

565
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<v Speaker 1>You know, we should combine this with some of the

566
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>great Jamatria people that we've had on the show throughout

567
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the years. I think they would love this.

568
00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, and you know what, unfortunately is

569
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.039
<v Speaker 2>because of the fear of the man, they would never

570
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<v Speaker 2>actually probably read any of his ship. No, you know

571
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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, like, well, I'm gonna keep it real.

572
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<v Speaker 2>There's some people that we have, that we've had on

573
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<v Speaker 2>the show that do Jamatia, that used fucking Aliston Crowley

574
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<v Speaker 2>every other week as a fucking bad guy and someone

575
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:19.199
<v Speaker 2>to point at and always his fucking ritual and his

576
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:22.400
<v Speaker 2>fucking Jamatria. They would never look at his ship. Too

577
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:26.559
<v Speaker 2>busy shitting on him. Yeah, keep it real. I mean,

578
00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 2>just keep it real.

579
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:32.400
<v Speaker 1>As they're using yet it interesting.

580
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<v Speaker 2>That is funny, right, Arthur.

581
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<v Speaker 1>Edward Waite, Arthur Edward Wait, just like what Israel just

582
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<v Speaker 1>said about Arthur Edward Waite.

583
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<v Speaker 2>Do you uh do you want to wait till next

584
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<v Speaker 2>week to actually start to Jamatria and just stop here?

585
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:49.760
<v Speaker 2>It's up to you. I don't know if you want

586
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<v Speaker 2>to continue or just Yeah.

587
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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a pretty good introduction. I think

588
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot more people are are interested in this. So

589
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<v Speaker 1>let's leave him once and more. We'll come back next

590
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>week and I'm sure to get into it a lot more,

591
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:03.400
<v Speaker 1>but I think this is a good length.

592
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:08.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and I do think again like

593
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<v Speaker 2>a reason, Like I even said to Headless, we're both

594
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<v Speaker 2>you know, we both agreed that doing the introduction and

595
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.480
<v Speaker 2>obviously the Jamachi I mean, it's the book, but it's

596
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:21.079
<v Speaker 2>uh again, you know a lot of people not Jamachia.

597
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:23.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe it's just because I'm a fan of it,

598
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:25.719
<v Speaker 2>but I actually do think there is something into it.

599
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'll even put it this way. If you

600
00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:30.400
<v Speaker 2>don't want to believe it doesn't really mean anything, I

601
00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:32.639
<v Speaker 2>guarantee you that the people who do believe it means

602
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:36.280
<v Speaker 2>something do cipher their shit at times. So regardless if

603
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 2>it means anything magical, you're not gonna understand their stuff

604
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:41.559
<v Speaker 2>because you're not deciphering it. Yeah I ain't either because

605
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:44.159
<v Speaker 2>I ain't figuring out to cipher either, But there's stuff

606
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:48.000
<v Speaker 2>where I guarantee you it's ciphered. Sow knowing jomatry would

607
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:48.320
<v Speaker 2>help with that.

608
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.159
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people like we're just starting to

609
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:57.519
<v Speaker 1>get into the the not socratic, but the neoplatinist view

610
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<v Speaker 1>of these chains, right, the neo plating, this view of

611
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:04.199
<v Speaker 1>these chains that are all connected to the one, coming

612
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>down to the many through all these associations and stuff.

613
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.679
<v Speaker 1>That's where Kamala gets its power. It's like unseen chains

614
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.679
<v Speaker 1>linking these ideas and these thoughts together through altered states

615
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 1>of consciousness. So what a lot of people are getting

616
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:20.599
<v Speaker 1>out of this is going to be personal to them, right,

617
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:25.360
<v Speaker 1>But it is an interesting painting that they're using numbers

618
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 1>and words, right, So it is an individual expression. But

619
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:32.039
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, there's a deeper meaning and a

620
00:37:32.079 --> 00:37:33.679
<v Speaker 1>deeper connectedness you can get.

621
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<v Speaker 2>Out of it.

622
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.159
<v Speaker 1>If you think about it more like an art than

623
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a science. You can kind of see what I'm thinking.

624
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And I've even mentioned on the show before. If

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<v Speaker 2>you go back to I think we did a three

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<v Speaker 2>parts Marchie series guys almost two years ago, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a point where I was reading and it was stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, I got online. It wasn't making it up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been known that in the past to translate some

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<v Speaker 2>different different languages from one to the other. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>how it was done. They used jamatru. I mean they

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<v Speaker 2>said that. I mean, fuck, I don't know how the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck to do that either, but obviously they were and

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<v Speaker 2>I think honestly if I remember correctly, that's even how

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<v Speaker 2>they started even getting some of the Islamic shit figured out,

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<v Speaker 2>because that shit was on im popping for alchemy and

637
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<v Speaker 2>they were trying to figure out what the fuck they

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<v Speaker 2>were saying in their text.

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<v Speaker 1>Every alphabet has the same numerical cipher, so you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the AB's and c's all front loaded, and all these

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<v Speaker 1>different alphabets Latin, Greek, Hebrew, freaking you know, all of

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<v Speaker 1>these alphabets have the same starting points, and those same

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<v Speaker 1>starting points have the same numbers. For instance, of Greek.

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<v Speaker 1>Greek didn't have separate symbols for numbers. Their numbers were

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<v Speaker 1>their letters with an extra symbol on top. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you're seeing when it comes to the number

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<v Speaker 1>and letter combination. That was called isopsophy before they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing it all. And here the problem with isoprophy is

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<v Speaker 1>that people don't want to go through the work of

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<v Speaker 1>learning Greek because there's a lot to it. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>fuck ton to it, actually, and then you got the

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<v Speaker 1>different dialects, so it makes more sense to have it

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<v Speaker 1>in Hebrew. I just like the Greek better, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can pronounce it better. I've looked into it more,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know it's a preference.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. One thing I do want to mention, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it would be an issue. I've had the

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<v Speaker 2>issue before. It was a little bit differently. I was

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<v Speaker 2>reading the Sacred Secret Rituals of the Oto. I could

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<v Speaker 2>understand getting slapped with a copyright infringement on that. Believe

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<v Speaker 2>it or not, the OTO actually did hit me with

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<v Speaker 2>the DMCA.

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<v Speaker 1>This.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if if it happens with this and

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<v Speaker 2>it gets taken down on YouTube, I will continue to

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<v Speaker 2>do it or at least on rumble bit, shoot and audio.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't let that stop me. So you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying if it happens to be a problem, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what happened when my Facebook came down already,

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<v Speaker 2>I doubt it's due to copyright and fringement, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know who knows. Yeah, I'm just letting people know. If

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<v Speaker 2>it's an issue, I'm going to keep going with it,

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<v Speaker 2>just not on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Right well, it is on Internet archives, so I think

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<v Speaker 1>see the trademark or copyright has expired.

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<v Speaker 2>So well, yeah, one would think, but no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to have to worry about can Kitty hit

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<v Speaker 2>me with another DMC. It was crazy is I personally

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<v Speaker 2>knew the fucking person who did that to me, So

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<v Speaker 2>it was the girl was in my lodge. She was

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<v Speaker 2>a lawyer. She was a lawyer for the OTO. I

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly who slapped me with that DMCA. So I

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<v Speaker 2>tried contacting them so I can go over the vision

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<v Speaker 2>of the voice. I didn't get a fucking answer. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I didn't think so, because I know if

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<v Speaker 2>I do, if I cover that vision in the voice,

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<v Speaker 2>they could hit me with the copyright. Then they told

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<v Speaker 2>the person who went and filmed it was already told

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<v Speaker 2>you can't show that online unless you ask for permission.

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<v Speaker 2>And when she asked for the information to ask for permission,

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<v Speaker 2>it was the same fucking lady that hit me with

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<v Speaker 2>the DMCA copyright. I was like, Fuck, this ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>work all right, but uh yeah, I'm good to be interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm just letting people know. If it

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<v Speaker 2>becomes an issue with that stuff, I will try to

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<v Speaker 2>keep it going as long as I can. And you know, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>for real, for real people that are really into this stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>share it, Please share it out. If you're in any

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<v Speaker 2>occult discords, share it because I will be I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>totally honest with you. I've lost some mods and I

701
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<v Speaker 2>have lost some listeners from starting to cover more of

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<v Speaker 2>the occults. So uh maybe it would help if I

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<v Speaker 2>actually got some more of a cultist to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>my show instead of scared conspiracy theorists. So uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>hook a brother up and send some links out there

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<v Speaker 2>if you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, if you're in any groups on Facebook that have

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<v Speaker 1>lots and lots of people, there are a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>occult groups on Facebook, share it in those groups. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I've been doing so exactly. Look at those Reddit

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<v Speaker 1>as well. We're not on Reddit and we're mostly not

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook, but redd it's a great place to share it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we there's somebody did make a credit for us,

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<v Speaker 2>actually really believe it or not, or if you search

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<v Speaker 2>for us, our name does pop on there a few times,

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<v Speaker 2>even even the whole uh whatever that the problem I

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<v Speaker 2>had with you know, Tinfoil had that even comes up

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<v Speaker 2>on Ready to Check. Yeah yeah, so uh yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>there's a readdit out there and somebody happens to see it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll throw us at comments or add something or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't keep an eye on it. A fan

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<v Speaker 2>made it for us. I can't even get into it,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, share this out and uh yeah, help us

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<v Speaker 2>a hook a brother up with some new listeners and ship.

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<v Speaker 2>So all right, you're good Headless.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. This has been a great episode. Guys. You

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<v Speaker 1>can catch me on Thursday where me and nick A

728
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<v Speaker 1>coming back. Send me your emails at Headless Giant Podcast

729
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<v Speaker 1>at gmail dot com with all of your occult, strange,

730
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<v Speaker 1>esoteric stories.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody says they want to do it, but you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it because you want to get some stickers.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I got a cult stickers. Yeah, I gotta eat

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<v Speaker 2>stickers that I'll send out to you. Gotta keep it

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<v Speaker 2>magical with the Magician the Infinity side number eight and

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<v Speaker 2>it is an artistic depiction of the inside of your

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<v Speaker 2>arrival and it has a QR code on it too

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<v Speaker 2>for people to scan if you happen to slap them

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<v Speaker 2>around and tag with it. So uh, definitely definitely check

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<v Speaker 2>out Hellis's show on Thursday and check out his Alchemy

743
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<v Speaker 2>Mondays with euros up as well. At some point you

744
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<v Speaker 2>might be able to catch one of them blowing themselves

745
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<v Speaker 2>up it might be worth it. So and you know it,

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<v Speaker 2>Headless will still come back the next week trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do it again. He'll still come back the next week

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all part of it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to push those buttons. See what happens to yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>All of them by pushing the whole button elevator.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought that was great. Guys, that was great

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<v Speaker 2>when you said that. But yeah, that's the end of

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<v Speaker 2>another Recult Rejects and again every Tuesday, hopefully around this time.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything maybe changes with his job, et cetera, we

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<v Speaker 2>might move around the time. But I think we're shooting

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<v Speaker 2>for this every week and uh yeah, check it out

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<v Speaker 2>and until the next one, everybody be well later

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<v Speaker 1>Mhm.