Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What what's going to happen? I'll tak what help. Welcome
Speaker 2: to the Occult Rejects. In this episode, you got me
Speaker 2: and my boy Headless Giant, and uh as I, as
Speaker 2: far as I know now, woul assume it's just gonna
Speaker 2: be us two the whole time. But I mean, you
Speaker 2: never know. But hey, it's a first day of the
Speaker 2: new series. We're going to be trying. We're going to
Speaker 2: cover seven seven seven by Alista Crowley as best as
Speaker 2: we can. Uh you know, from our experiences of using
Speaker 2: it or there things that come up in there that
Speaker 2: we have experience with you will go on with it,
Speaker 2: and some stuff that we don't have experience, we'll obviously
Speaker 2: read over it, just so you get an idea of
Speaker 2: what's in there. I and Headless were even saying prior
Speaker 2: to the show, I do think a lot of people
Speaker 2: are actually misunderstood about what's actually inside this book. Not
Speaker 2: saying I'm promoting it and saying everybody go out and
Speaker 2: get it and start reading it like a Bible. But
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think this is probably as many
Speaker 2: dicks and demons in here as everybody thinks that.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But before we go on, is there anything you
Speaker 2: want to say about this head list? I know, I
Speaker 2: know you're a big fan of this book as well,
Speaker 2: so well.
Speaker 1: This is Alistair Crowley's Kabbala. So if you're wondering about
Speaker 1: all of the associations and the worldview that Crowley had,
Speaker 1: don't go to the podcast. Go to seven seven seven,
Speaker 1: because this is going to give you sort of a
Speaker 1: view into his subconscious mind as well as his studies
Speaker 1: and all the rest of this stuff. That's that's why
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of important because it's shaping a
Speaker 1: whole generation of occultists, right. All the occultists of this
Speaker 1: generation had his book so that they could have those
Speaker 1: associations on hand. This is the ultimate reference guide for
Speaker 1: the Crowley and point of view. Yeah, so that's that's
Speaker 1: why we're covering it.
Speaker 2: And if there's any I guarantee you, if there's any
Speaker 2: witches in Chat or wickens in Chat that don't even
Speaker 2: like Crowley, some of you out there it might even
Speaker 2: be able to contest and say I still use that book.
Speaker 2: I have heard that so many times from people in
Speaker 2: the witchcraft and the cold community. I don't like Croley
Speaker 2: but I still use this seven seven seven. I've known
Speaker 2: wicks that have you know, witches that are into you know,
Speaker 2: typical ceremonial magic, still use that book. So obviously it's
Speaker 2: an impact regardless if you think it's real or not.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It is influenced. I have
Speaker 2: a huge chunk of ceremonial practices since I don't know,
Speaker 2: since this came.
Speaker 1: Out, you know, right right early nineteen hundred, so it's
Speaker 1: still having influence today. We're still reading it to you guys,
Speaker 1: so it's probably gonna shape some of those subconscious associations yourself.
Speaker 1: But one of the other things I wanted to cover
Speaker 1: is you can follow along too. I put the link
Speaker 1: in the chat, but if you can't find it there,
Speaker 1: you could also look on Internet archives seven to seven
Speaker 1: seven and you'll find it there as well. So it's
Speaker 1: it's free if you want to get your hands on it.
Speaker 2: Yes, And one thing I do want to mention that
Speaker 2: Young Stitch is eight over here said or eighty eight
Speaker 2: or eight Young Stitches eight. Uh, this is before Thalma,
Speaker 2: so it's pret aonic, So I mean it was before
Speaker 2: he became who he became, I guess, So all right,
Speaker 2: do you want me to start it off? Oh? Sure, sure,
Speaker 2: all right, yeah, we'll pull it up to uh, let
Speaker 2: you guys see it here. Let me maybe I can
Speaker 2: blow it up a little bit, make it look a
Speaker 2: little bit better for you guys. But I do highly
Speaker 2: suggest if you can to grab the grab the PDF
Speaker 2: for the book and read along with it. All right,
Speaker 2: here we go, take these glasses of us. This is
Speaker 2: a unique collection of Kabbalistic texts without parallel in the
Speaker 2: entire history of this vast mystical literature, all of them
Speaker 2: belonging to the very early professional career of Alista Crowley.
Speaker 2: That is a is they were written before he had
Speaker 2: reached the age of forty years, as every student of
Speaker 2: the Croley corpus of writing should know. However, they were
Speaker 2: used constantly and continuously by him throughout his lifetime. So
Speaker 2: I mean, I would hope if you put this out
Speaker 2: he adhered to his own work. But they're even saying
Speaker 2: he used it.
Speaker 1: Himself absolutely in the obscure footnotes to the Vision and
Speaker 1: the Voice Sangreal Foundation, Dallas, nineteen seventy two. That's an
Speaker 1: important place there. Yeah, elis in the nineteen sixties, interesting,
Speaker 1: which I recently edited. It soon became evident that a
Speaker 1: few of those explanatory notes of his would make a
Speaker 1: rhyme or reason to the average student unless he were
Speaker 1: exceedingly well grounded in the material and methods delineate delineated
Speaker 1: in those books. All three need to be studied a
Speaker 1: studious over a long period of time before those footnotes
Speaker 1: become intelligible to any degree, or until the intrinsic value
Speaker 1: of the text themselves is perceived as being of the
Speaker 1: purest goal little alchemy for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing I do want to mention that it's
Speaker 2: interesting they said the Vision in the Voice, Dallas, nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy two. As far as I know, if this is
Speaker 2: talking about what they're talking about. The Vision in the
Speaker 2: Voice is now located in Austin, Texas in a different library,
Speaker 2: But you can go there and see his handwritten notes.
Speaker 2: Do you have a fuck ton of pictures in video
Speaker 2: of it? And I am thinking about possibly showing it.
Speaker 2: But if you have the chance to go down there
Speaker 2: and look at that, you will see him literally doing
Speaker 2: drumatria fitting words in. He's using that word rose and
Speaker 2: he's doing the mads for it. He's not talking about
Speaker 2: his girl all the time he is doing something else
Speaker 2: when he says their names. Sometimes you can see that.
Speaker 2: I will even say, for the Sjw's out there who
Speaker 2: coucked for Crowley. This some stuff you might see him
Speaker 2: writ in there that might offend you some you know,
Speaker 2: offensive names for certain types of people. He may not
Speaker 2: be the you know, the great man you thought he was.
Speaker 2: He was just like everybody else, you know, all right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: The first of these three texts is actually one of
Speaker 2: the installments from the Equinox, the fifth containing a biographical
Speaker 2: sal sorry containing a biographical serial entitled The Temple of
Speaker 2: King Solomon. The serial strove to present a more or
Speaker 2: less dynamic picture of the personality of Alista Crowley or
Speaker 2: Frader pert Rabo, which is something you called himself, per Rabbo.
Speaker 2: He's called himself the Beast and a few other names.
Speaker 2: I think to use his order name in the course
Speaker 2: of his progress along the mystical and magical path. The
Speaker 2: first few installments were written by one of his major
Speaker 2: disciples of the first decade of this century, Captain uh
Speaker 2: later General J. F. C. Fuller. After a while, these
Speaker 2: two men separated as separated as narrated in the Confessions
Speaker 2: of Alista Crowley. The result was that Crowley, being left
Speaker 2: in the in the lurch as it were, wrote the
Speaker 2: fifth installment as a kind of filler, enabling him to
Speaker 2: find time to resume the narrative of his attainment, interrupted
Speaker 2: by Fuller's departure. That's fine. That reminds me of It's like,
Speaker 2: sometimes it sounds shitty. Sometimes I'll do like filler shows
Speaker 2: why I'm in between, like trying to do more in depth.
Speaker 2: Once it's like, yeah, I kind of get what you
Speaker 2: get in at dude. Oh sorry, great.
Speaker 1: Also, we left out the part that this is a
Speaker 1: ford written by Israel Regardos. Oh yeah, Alchemist Handbook also
Speaker 1: has a ford written by Israel Regarded So he's getting
Speaker 1: all over back then he's got his hand in everything.
Speaker 2: So he might have had his hand in Alista Crowley at.
Speaker 1: One at some point might have The filler has nothing
Speaker 1: to do in reality with the biographical narrative. It consisted
Speaker 1: of a set of cobbalistic and pragmatic notes on number
Speaker 1: that Crowley had accumulated over the years, which he now
Speaker 1: tied together for his purposes. It consisted of a study
Speaker 1: of one phase of the Kabbalistic process, which is held
Speaker 1: in rather poor esteem today, mostly so, I believe, because
Speaker 1: the majority of the modern writers have not been able
Speaker 1: to penetrate its mystery, they cannot cope with it in
Speaker 1: any way. They regard it unfortunately on par with common
Speaker 1: practice of numerology and fortune telling, thus missing the boat entirely.
Speaker 2: Jumatria, as this process is named, is pronounced as je
Speaker 2: whatever a mutt rhea. As a method, it reminds me
Speaker 2: somewhat of the mystery surrounding the usage of the coan
Speaker 2: koa n in the Rinzi sect of Zen r I
Speaker 2: n z Ai z Ai sect of Zen. It seems
Speaker 2: at first sight first site nothing but perfect nonsense, this
Speaker 2: taking liberties with names and letters and numbers. But in
Speaker 2: point of fact, just as the coan is a meaningful
Speaker 2: but not necessary rational statement made from a mystical level
Speaker 2: of consciousness, so also it may be used to induce
Speaker 2: a similar type of illumination in the determined student who
Speaker 2: uses it. Depending on the spiritual state of the reader,
Speaker 2: Jamatria will be perceived either as nonsense of the most
Speaker 2: grotesque description, or it will awaken some smoke riom similacrum
Speaker 2: of the mystical state originally experienced by its writer. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: So he's having these illumination experiences and saying that understanding
Speaker 1: the Gematria in a certain frame of mind can induce
Speaker 1: the same similar state of consciousness. Very interesting. Let me
Speaker 1: see if he studies crowley exposition of the number four
Speaker 1: eighteen in this book Jamatria, for example, something of this
Speaker 1: high point of view may be perceived. It was not arbitrary,
Speaker 1: arbitrarily chosen as an important or significant number for him,
Speaker 1: or for that matter, anyone else, And so with many
Speaker 1: other numbers. This method does have definite sphere of usefulness
Speaker 1: and a vital place in cabalistic exogetical process, but it
Speaker 1: does require to be understood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that word either. Whatever, never for
Speaker 2: one moment suspect Crowley of gullibility, ornate, or being naive.
Speaker 2: They seem at first sight as if he were. But
Speaker 2: read the first few pages of the essay on Jamatria,
Speaker 2: where you will notice his satire, his ridicule, his ridicule,
Speaker 2: and his humor. This should never be ignored or minimized.
Speaker 2: He never had difficulty pulking fun at himself or the
Speaker 2: methods he used for different purposes. It saved him from
Speaker 2: being gullible in crudelity, the curse of the average occult student.
Speaker 2: Some of his conclusions on his numerical manipulations, therefore, are
Speaker 2: entitled at the very least to some scrutiny and examination,
Speaker 2: and this in turn may lead to respect. For example,
Speaker 2: I have always been profoundly impressed by his handling of
Speaker 2: the number nine, one three, equinox one, number five, page
Speaker 2: one oh seven. It is the jamatria of God, this
Speaker 2: name barasheth barashith, a Hebrew word meaning the beginning, the
Speaker 2: first word of the Book of Genesis. He starts with
Speaker 2: a discussion of the number nine and reduces it by
Speaker 2: several brilliant permutations and attributions to one, stating that the
Speaker 2: many being the many being but veils of the one,
Speaker 2: and the course of argument leads one to knowledge and
Speaker 2: worship of each number. In turn, in concluding the lengthy analysis,
Speaker 2: he does state explicitly that nine is not equal to
Speaker 2: one for the neophyte. These equivalences are dogmatic and only
Speaker 2: true by favor of Him in whom all is truth.
Speaker 1: Any man who can write thus of a subject which
Speaker 1: is taboo because capable of infinite abuse, and which has
Speaker 1: earned the contempt of several reasonable students of the mysteries,
Speaker 1: is worthy of respect and consideration. Right to the end
Speaker 1: of his days, Crowley felt that this Jematria was a
Speaker 1: most useful tool, and tested many of his theoretical and
Speaker 1: intuitive feelings relative to the Book of Law against the
Speaker 1: manipulation and inspiration of Jamatria. I must say that I
Speaker 1: am in complete accord with him in this respect, as
Speaker 1: testified by my earliest piece of writing, A Garden of Pomegranates,
Speaker 1: in which there is a chapter on Jamatria.
Speaker 2: Nice. The second of these liber seven seven seven has
Speaker 2: been reprinted several times in recent years. All of the
Speaker 2: new editions improved on the first one, which is rare
Speaker 2: nowadays and most expensive, by the inclusion of many short
Speaker 2: essays and commentaries written at various times of Crowley, and
Speaker 2: added skillfully by the editor after Croley's demise in nineteen
Speaker 2: forty seven. I'll read the next one too. The book
Speaker 2: was first started in nineteen oh seven, shortly after his
Speaker 2: return from the China expedition. It is humorously referred to
Speaker 2: in the second essay and Knox on Pox, where there
Speaker 2: are references to the table of correspondences in preparation. In
Speaker 2: point of fact, these tables of Correspondences, which comprise Libra
Speaker 2: seven to seven in which were not published until nineteen
Speaker 2: oh nine, consists of basic information provided originally piecemeal and
Speaker 2: the knowledge lectures of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dome.
Speaker 2: Predicated on his own further studies and experiences. They were
Speaker 2: enormously expanded by Kroley, so that at first sight they
Speaker 2: bear little resemblance to the fragmented tables in the Golden Dome.
Speaker 1: There is a wealth of valuable material here just waiting
Speaker 1: to be used. Many writers have done so without due acknowledgement.
Speaker 1: This book provides a basic system or method of filling
Speaker 1: new information on any topic and subject. The filing system
Speaker 1: is predicated on a mere thirty two categories, the ten
Speaker 1: sever off of the Tree of Life and the twenty
Speaker 1: two letters of the Hebrew alphabet. Once this schema is understood,
Speaker 1: any new set of data of any kind can be
Speaker 1: referenced to it, thus undergoing immense, immediate and spontaneous organization
Speaker 1: and synthesis within the psyche. True most of the material
Speaker 1: relates to comparative religion and mythology, including precious stones, herbs, plants,
Speaker 1: and a multitude of other matters. Because these compromise the
Speaker 1: basic notions currently employed, one should not feel limited only
Speaker 1: to these topics. At one time I experimented allocating the
Speaker 1: elements on the atomic scale to this tree, with some
Speaker 1: modicum of success somewhere along the lines. It's so funny
Speaker 1: because the entire periodic table is set up with numbers
Speaker 1: and weights based off of the entire compilatory, and they're
Speaker 1: all named after Greek gods too. Go figure and guess what.
Speaker 1: The number of those Greek gods also corresponds with those elements.
Speaker 1: So he's being either modest or lying his butt off
Speaker 1: any culture right.
Speaker 2: One thing I would like to add I have come across,
Speaker 2: but it was a long time ago. If there's any listeners,
Speaker 2: or if you're yourself, or you know what the shows,
Speaker 2: if you know anybody who's really good with the element
Speaker 2: table with tying it to ocult stuff, please let us know.
Speaker 2: I'd love to get somebody on like that. I've seen
Speaker 2: it done, but it was so long ago. I can't
Speaker 2: remember the channel that I saw that was doing it.
Speaker 1: The occult elements that would be fantastic. Yeah, it showed
Speaker 1: me a good one.
Speaker 2: And another thing I just want to mention, like you
Speaker 2: just said right here, as he's tying it to the
Speaker 2: you know, the elements like yo, like this, These people
Speaker 2: over and over again do reference to science, and people
Speaker 2: just ignore it. These guys are into occult science, you know,
Speaker 2: say the toll you right here?
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Let me see somewhere along the line in the
Speaker 1: course of my mini travels, this set of attributions has
Speaker 1: got lost and I never made another attempt to duplicate it.
Speaker 1: It is mentioned here though, in the hope that this
Speaker 1: enterprising student will realize as the enormous potentialities which lay
Speaker 1: ahead when using the Tree of Life in this way.
Speaker 1: So what they're talking about is a memory palace, the
Speaker 1: same sort of thing that Nick is covering in his
Speaker 1: series on Oh guy was burnt at the Stag Georda Bruno. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Geordana Bruno used the same sort of method to
Speaker 1: create a memory palace in which people would accuse him
Speaker 1: of being a witch because his memory was so damn
Speaker 1: good and he had photographic comprehension and uh recall of
Speaker 1: everything he ever saw using this methodology.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he impressed uh, I forgot to King Henry. One
Speaker 2: of them was somebody. He impressed somebody and they gave
Speaker 2: him money. They said, like he was almost like encyclopedia,
Speaker 2: like fucking kid like memories, crazy shit like that. And
Speaker 2: he swore it was from literally from staring at certain
Speaker 2: sigils and certain uh, certain Hebrew letters and like just
Speaker 2: going around in a fucking wheel. After six months, he
Speaker 2: says it should work. Imagine that shit works and people
Speaker 2: out there actually know it right, right, people who still
Speaker 2: have his original shiit have it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, And that was one of the things
Speaker 1: that was hard to find, Like they had to reconstruct
Speaker 1: it because they didn't get a hold of it right.
Speaker 1: Libra seven seven seven created a new type of literature
Speaker 1: when it first appeared. It was the first of its kind,
Speaker 1: and Crowley deserves credit for that, even if some of
Speaker 1: the material itself is not original. A lot of it
Speaker 1: is not original.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. The lb r P and the hextagram,
Speaker 2: it's not his. A lot of people again, people by
Speaker 2: like how you covering Crowley and you constantly shit on them.
Speaker 2: It's just the fact that like too many people give
Speaker 2: this guy too much credit. Unfortunately, in different ways. Put
Speaker 2: it that way. You know, when they want to ship
Speaker 2: on him, they blame him for every fucking sick, every
Speaker 2: fucking specific origual out there, every ritual out there. Crawley
Speaker 2: did it, Curly did it, Curly did No, we didn't
Speaker 2: get over you, so right right, so alcoholic. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: end up writing the next one in order to get
Speaker 2: some theoretical idea of the Kabbala as a philosophical schema.
Speaker 2: There are some modern books outside the Croley Corpus which
Speaker 2: could be consulted to considerable advantage. Of course, they're going
Speaker 2: to talk about the Unfortune. First of all, there is
Speaker 2: the Unfortune's masterpiece, the Mystical Kabbala, which I will suggest
Speaker 2: is a good book, which is similarly based on the
Speaker 2: Golden Door material. Its value lies in the manner in
Speaker 2: which she has considered each item in each detail, with
Speaker 2: an exposition which ties them all together intelligibly. I'll do
Speaker 2: the next one just parallel this to William Garry's Ladder
Speaker 2: of Lights, which is another elucidation of the tree from
Speaker 2: a different viewpoint, but equally illuminating. Both of these books aurelimited, however,
Speaker 2: merely to a study of the ten Sepharoath the main
Speaker 2: categories of the tree. Supplementing these this is another amazing book.
Speaker 2: So I'm actually wondering if this is how I came
Speaker 2: across the guy's book Supplementing these is Gareth Knight's practical
Speaker 2: course and Babbelistic symbolism. Honestly, when anybody ever does ask
Speaker 2: me for books on the Cabala, that's the one I
Speaker 2: send them as a PDF. So if people are interested
Speaker 2: in it, I highly suggest that because it touches on
Speaker 2: the paths besides the spheres huge, I think, which extends
Speaker 2: the scope.
Speaker 1: I still got them all highlighted, which.
Speaker 2: Extends the scope of the previous two books. By studying
Speaker 2: these three books, good background materials should be provided from
Speaker 2: which to learn to appreciate the enormously valuable task performed
Speaker 2: by Crole and Libra seven seven several decades ago. The student.
Speaker 2: What's funny that they're even suggesting that book. That guy
Speaker 2: does shit on Crowley a few times, and they're saying
Speaker 2: he's wrong, he doesn't agree with his the way he
Speaker 2: looks at it, So that's impressive that they're even suggesting
Speaker 2: someone like that. The student can accept as much or
Speaker 2: as little of the philosophy described in the above name
Speaker 2: books as he wishes. It does not matter, so long
Speaker 2: as the basic schema is understood and applied to Libra
Speaker 2: seven seven. I foresee but little difficulty in this task.
Speaker 1: The third volume included here is cepher sephar Oath, which
Speaker 1: means simply the Book of Numbers. It is extrapolated from
Speaker 1: Equinox one number eight. Originally, the book was started by
Speaker 1: Alan Bennett, one of the Golden Dawn adapts, who took
Speaker 1: Crowley under his wing, grounded him in the fundamental process
Speaker 1: of magic, kabbala and meditation. He must have been the
Speaker 1: most exemplar extraordinary man, for his mark on Crowley proved
Speaker 1: to be indelible. And there are a few whom this
Speaker 1: may be said. Because he was such a narcissist. Alan
Speaker 1: left one or two other pieces of writing which Crowley
Speaker 1: reproduced in one or another or several volumes in the Equinoxes.
Speaker 1: They are worthy of being referred to as they're referred to.
Speaker 1: A Note on Genesis is a brilliant piece of exposition
Speaker 1: of Kabbalistic principles, demonstrating the whole gamut of Golden Dawn teachings.
Speaker 1: Some of the Kabbalistic methods described here. For this reason
Speaker 1: alone it should be studied. The other was written after
Speaker 1: he had abandoned the order to become a Buddhist monk,
Speaker 1: with the sacramental name of b Q b h Ananda Metia.
Speaker 1: It is entitled The Training of the Mind, a Study
Speaker 1: of the Buddhist Way of Life. Both essays show a
Speaker 1: fine caliber of his mind, demonstrating why Crowley was so
Speaker 1: profoundly impressed by him. Anyway, this book is due in
Speaker 1: large measure to the efforts which Crowley continued.
Speaker 2: Consists of hundreds of Hebrew words selected from several sources
Speaker 2: that are listed in the front of the text. Most
Speaker 2: of the words are from the Old Testament in a
Speaker 2: couple of non Zoric texts translated by McGregor Mathers under
Speaker 2: the title of the Kabbala Unveiled. It's a good one too,
Speaker 2: from the latinition of Nora von Rosenroth. These words are
Speaker 2: arranged according to their numerical value by Bennett. The process
Speaker 2: and additional words were continued by Crowley after he had
Speaker 2: inherited the book from his mentor. There are some strange
Speaker 2: dematriary combinations to be found there, but it is traditionally
Speaker 2: assumed that if two words have the same number of value,
Speaker 2: a connection of some kind may be said to exist
Speaker 2: between them. At first sight. In some instances, no such
Speaker 2: relationship may be perceived, But if the student persists in
Speaker 2: his study and meditation, he may come to realize something
Speaker 2: of the profoundities of these subtle connections and associations that
Speaker 2: are not immediately perceived. I have taken the liberty of
Speaker 2: deleting a table of factor, which is which in reality
Speaker 2: has nothing whatsoever to do with in my opinion, is
Speaker 2: one of the occasional examples of Crowley's in exhibition them.
Speaker 2: Sometimes he just had to demonstrate his erudition much much much.
Speaker 2: The same is true of many numbers in the last
Speaker 2: few pages of the text, save for a few with
Speaker 2: their corresponding Hebrew words that could be condensed and work
Speaker 2: closer together, these pages are omitted because there are no
Speaker 2: corresponding Hebrew word. There was no There are no corresponding
Speaker 2: Hebrew words listed for the time being. They are just
Speaker 2: a waste of space in paper.
Speaker 1: That the serious student, what's that?
Speaker 2: I said? They should have They still should have left
Speaker 2: it in there. I would have let you know, it's
Speaker 2: probably actually like him figuring it out like I was
Speaker 2: saying about the vision and the voice, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Or it's like.
Speaker 1: I got a put note on mine that says this
Speaker 1: table is included in the by the publisher in the
Speaker 1: third edition in nineteen seventy five. So they actually did
Speaker 1: leave it out.
Speaker 2: Okay, nice, Sorry, let me see.
Speaker 1: While it is true that the serious student might study
Speaker 1: other cabalistic texts and in the future discover new Hebrew
Speaker 1: words having a numero numerical value that corresponds to those
Speaker 1: that I have now just I have just now deleted, nevertheless,
Speaker 1: he should make his own additions to suffer Sepharoth in
Speaker 1: certain new strings of numbers, to make a place for
Speaker 1: his newly found words. And that is it should be,
Speaker 1: and that is as it should be. There should be
Speaker 1: nothing fixed or rigid about any of these three books.
Speaker 1: They could be supplemented and expanded by the explorations of
Speaker 1: each student, depending on his own judgment and ingenuity. But
Speaker 1: he must not fall into the pitfall of some modern writers, who,
Speaker 1: having no sympathy or understanding of the process, decry it
Speaker 1: and declare it of little value. In the cabalistic scheme,
Speaker 1: of things. I'm also I am also omitting Crowley's preface
Speaker 1: to the book. It is an that's the malicious piece
Speaker 1: of writing, and it does not do justice to the
Speaker 1: system with which he is dealing. Every so often Crowley
Speaker 1: falls from one of the heights which he has seen
Speaker 1: and swallows someone else's folly, someone whom he had the
Speaker 1: occasion to admire. In this case, Sir Richard Burton not
Speaker 1: always a wholly reliable authority outside the Arabian nights.
Speaker 2: The essay on Jamatria and Cephas Sepharoth should be studied together.
Speaker 2: Some of the profundities of this first of the first
Speaker 2: will never be perceived until one has meditated long and
Speaker 2: often on some of the words analyzed in that essay.
Speaker 2: I must confess that every now and again, during the
Speaker 2: course of my life, I have experienced a thorough going
Speaker 2: revulsion to Crowley as a person, resulting in the total
Speaker 2: rejection and neglect of what he has written. Days, weeks,
Speaker 2: once or years may elapse. Then accidentally I stumble across
Speaker 2: something he wrote, such as Jamatria, becomes so engrossed in
Speaker 2: a navid of his ingenuity and inspiration that my revulsion
Speaker 2: becomes almost immediately transcended. This is probably more true of
Speaker 2: Jamachia than either of the two. Here included. The student
Speaker 2: who has missed the excitement and inner elevation experience by Jamatia,
Speaker 2: whether of his own making or merely reading Crowley, has
Speaker 2: missed a very great deal. Do you want me to
Speaker 2: keep going?
Speaker 1: One scholar recently, oh, I can hit it. One scholar
Speaker 1: recently suggested to me that a letter that Crowley's knowledge
Speaker 1: of Hebrew was most limited. He made a very impressive
Speaker 1: showing only in some ways I'm inclined to agree. But
Speaker 1: on the other hand, what little he did know he
Speaker 1: has used extremely effectively and creatively. Anyways, he was not
Speaker 1: a dull bluffer like Arthur Edward Waite, who pretended all
Speaker 1: to all sorts of linguistic and scholastic skills he in
Speaker 1: fact never had, take for example his sorry about that.
Speaker 1: Take for example his book The Secret Doctrine in Israel,
Speaker 1: which is a lengthy analysis of the Zohar. That book
Speaker 1: was not written until after a French translation of the
Speaker 1: Zohar had been made, and of course long been before
Speaker 1: the English one had appeared. The footnotes bear ample testimony
Speaker 1: to this conclusion. Yet he pretended years prior to that
Speaker 1: book that his Latin and Hebrew were more than adequate
Speaker 1: to the task, although they were not. Even His Latin
Speaker 1: translations of many alchemical texts were merely good editing jobs,
Speaker 1: the translators having been, amongst others, some elderly Anglican priests
Speaker 1: preferring to remain, if not in anonymous, then in obscurity,
Speaker 1: who had got mixed up in the Golden Dawn and
Speaker 1: the occult art in general. They did the donkey work
Speaker 1: of translating donkey, remember the donkey.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're just talking about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh, translating difficult material. But wait, got all the
Speaker 1: glory and the swollen head. Whatever maybe said of Alistair
Speaker 1: Crowley's inflated ego, and I have often said perhaps too
Speaker 1: much about this, he never stooped quite that low. Very interesting,
Speaker 1: Yeah right, agent gossip.
Speaker 2: He's even saying your Croles fucked up and this motherfucker
Speaker 2: was worse. All of this makes the book that Kabbala
Speaker 2: have asked the Croley a greater interest to the average
Speaker 2: good student, whose Hebrew may be no better or no
Speaker 2: worse than that of Croley. Uh it may be given,
Speaker 2: uh it maybe it may give him heart to pursue
Speaker 2: his own personal adenda to those books and become as
Speaker 2: good a cobbolist as was Croley. Finally, let me add
Speaker 2: that the students should own a good Hebrew English lexicon.
Speaker 2: Perhaps one of the best ways of using this is
Speaker 2: to browse through it at random, casually as it were,
Speaker 2: and then, as his interest and excitement mount, look for
Speaker 2: certain words deliberately and methodically. For example, for example, open
Speaker 2: the lexicon at random and on that particular page, point
Speaker 2: carelessly to the first word noticed. Transfer the word and
Speaker 2: its translation to a sheet of paper, and then work
Speaker 2: out its jamatia. Then turn to sepher sepharoth to see
Speaker 2: if that number and word are represented. If not, add
Speaker 2: them using page inserts if necessary. Make special entries of
Speaker 2: such words as time proceeds. Certain other words. Certain other
Speaker 2: words will evoke special interest and should be treated in
Speaker 2: the same manner. Try to follow Crowley's analysis of what
Speaker 2: was that name? Bearshith again bearschith you said in the
Speaker 2: essay jamachia as a model for the management of these words,
Speaker 2: and as the basis for meditation to lead to the
Speaker 2: highest That's interesting that he you are muted the headless.
Speaker 2: It's interesting that he is a he's mentioning that I,
Speaker 2: for all I know, I either don't remember. But the
Speaker 2: way they're explaining I was, like, you said, what I
Speaker 2: was trying to do with my jomatry, you know how
Speaker 2: I have that like jamatia thing up on the site
Speaker 2: and I didn't want to put it into a book.
Speaker 2: It was actually kind of like you're being able to
Speaker 2: take the numerical value and run it to that book
Speaker 2: to see what it matches. That was kind of the
Speaker 2: way I had it. So it's interesting to know. I
Speaker 2: guess you could do that with one of.
Speaker 1: His right, But they're they're going for a type of
Speaker 1: libromancy here. So you're just opening the lexicon at random
Speaker 1: and then working through it like it's an exercise. But
Speaker 1: in the process you're going to get a lot of
Speaker 1: meaning that you can see through. But also we've got
Speaker 1: the Jamatria calculator now, which is like ten times easier
Speaker 1: than what they're suggesting in this book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you imagine that back in the day you had
Speaker 2: to write everything down and figure it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Here are a couple of examples. I opened
Speaker 1: the lexicon at random too, and selected two words a
Speaker 1: variety of cabalistic methods may be used to elaborate on them.
Speaker 1: Practice will produce the skill and insight. The first word
Speaker 1: selected and was one meaning empty. In Hebrew it is
Speaker 1: spelled and you and non iron valv rash. This thus,
Speaker 1: it's chamatria is fifty, seventy six and two hundred, totaling
Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty six. This is a number that
Speaker 1: is listed in the Sepher Sephar, and surprisingly is that
Speaker 1: of Yeheshua Yeshua Redeemer. The word for vision also comes
Speaker 1: within the purview of this number. Our lexicon word empty
Speaker 1: may seem a far cry from any of those other
Speaker 1: words just mentioned, but see what little meditation can do.
Speaker 1: Having followed the similar procedure used by alis Chacrole relative
Speaker 1: to Burasha. Yes, a lot of Gnostic Christians believe Christ
Speaker 1: is emptiness because of that word. Another word selected at
Speaker 1: random defit de fact or what In Hebrew, this is
Speaker 1: spelled Czech semach resh vav final nun It's chamatria comes two,
Speaker 1: three twenty four, counting the nun as fifty. This too
Speaker 1: is another number already in Cephra Sephar Oath, but it
Speaker 1: is worth comparing with the words already given there redness, darkness, roaring,
Speaker 1: et cetera. All three of these Kabbalistic texts must be
Speaker 1: consulted to make sense of these apparently unrelated words and numbers.
Speaker 1: The process thus becomes a test for one's cabalistic knowledge
Speaker 1: and skill. But more importantly, the process becomes a stimulus
Speaker 1: for the surrender of the mind to the mystical experience
Speaker 1: which the one is seen to be all and vice versa.
Speaker 1: Back to the experiencing this altered frame of consciousness.
Speaker 2: I'll just I just want to have the pleasure to
Speaker 2: just finish it off.
Speaker 1: All right. There are simply no limits to be set
Speaker 1: to the applications of these numerical processes. It will take
Speaker 1: only a little patience and experience for the sincere and
Speaker 1: ingenious student to be to become aware of the possibilities
Speaker 1: inherent in the Jamatria, and he will conclude by developing
Speaker 1: a fine appreciation for the value, individually and collectively of
Speaker 1: these three books assembled for the first time as the
Speaker 1: Kabbala of Alistair Crawley that is written by Israel Regardi.
Speaker 1: You know, we should combine this with some of the
Speaker 1: great Jamatria people that we've had on the show throughout
Speaker 1: the years. I think they would love this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, and you know what, unfortunately is
Speaker 2: because of the fear of the man, they would never
Speaker 2: actually probably read any of his ship. No, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like, well, I'm gonna keep it real.
Speaker 2: There's some people that we have, that we've had on
Speaker 2: the show that do Jamatia, that used fucking Aliston Crowley
Speaker 2: every other week as a fucking bad guy and someone
Speaker 2: to point at and always his fucking ritual and his
Speaker 2: fucking Jamatria. They would never look at his ship. Too
Speaker 2: busy shitting on him. Yeah, keep it real. I mean,
Speaker 2: just keep it real.
Speaker 1: As they're using yet it interesting.
Speaker 2: That is funny, right, Arthur.
Speaker 1: Edward Waite, Arthur Edward Wait, just like what Israel just
Speaker 1: said about Arthur Edward Waite.
Speaker 2: Do you uh do you want to wait till next
Speaker 2: week to actually start to Jamatria and just stop here?
Speaker 2: It's up to you. I don't know if you want
Speaker 2: to continue or just Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think this is a pretty good introduction. I think
Speaker 1: a lot more people are are interested in this. So
Speaker 1: let's leave him once and more. We'll come back next
Speaker 1: week and I'm sure to get into it a lot more,
Speaker 1: but I think this is a good length.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and I do think again like
Speaker 2: a reason, Like I even said to Headless, we're both
Speaker 2: you know, we both agreed that doing the introduction and
Speaker 2: obviously the Jamachi I mean, it's the book, but it's
Speaker 2: uh again, you know a lot of people not Jamachia.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's just because I'm a fan of it,
Speaker 2: but I actually do think there is something into it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll even put it this way. If you
Speaker 2: don't want to believe it doesn't really mean anything, I
Speaker 2: guarantee you that the people who do believe it means
Speaker 2: something do cipher their shit at times. So regardless if
Speaker 2: it means anything magical, you're not gonna understand their stuff
Speaker 2: because you're not deciphering it. Yeah I ain't either because
Speaker 2: I ain't figuring out to cipher either, But there's stuff
Speaker 2: where I guarantee you it's ciphered. Sow knowing jomatry would
Speaker 2: help with that.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people like we're just starting to
Speaker 1: get into the the not socratic, but the neoplatinist view
Speaker 1: of these chains, right, the neo plating, this view of
Speaker 1: these chains that are all connected to the one, coming
Speaker 1: down to the many through all these associations and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's where Kamala gets its power. It's like unseen chains
Speaker 1: linking these ideas and these thoughts together through altered states
Speaker 1: of consciousness. So what a lot of people are getting
Speaker 1: out of this is going to be personal to them, right,
Speaker 1: But it is an interesting painting that they're using numbers
Speaker 1: and words, right, So it is an individual expression. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, there's a deeper meaning and a
Speaker 1: deeper connectedness you can get.
Speaker 2: Out of it.
Speaker 1: If you think about it more like an art than
Speaker 1: a science. You can kind of see what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I've even mentioned on the show before. If
Speaker 2: you go back to I think we did a three
Speaker 2: parts Marchie series guys almost two years ago, there was
Speaker 2: a point where I was reading and it was stuff
Speaker 2: that you know, I got online. It wasn't making it up.
Speaker 2: It's been known that in the past to translate some
Speaker 2: different different languages from one to the other. I don't
Speaker 2: how it was done. They used jamatru. I mean they
Speaker 2: said that. I mean, fuck, I don't know how the
Speaker 2: fuck to do that either, but obviously they were and
Speaker 2: I think honestly if I remember correctly, that's even how
Speaker 2: they started even getting some of the Islamic shit figured out,
Speaker 2: because that shit was on im popping for alchemy and
Speaker 2: they were trying to figure out what the fuck they
Speaker 2: were saying in their text.
Speaker 1: Every alphabet has the same numerical cipher, so you've got
Speaker 1: the AB's and c's all front loaded, and all these
Speaker 1: different alphabets Latin, Greek, Hebrew, freaking you know, all of
Speaker 1: these alphabets have the same starting points, and those same
Speaker 1: starting points have the same numbers. For instance, of Greek.
Speaker 1: Greek didn't have separate symbols for numbers. Their numbers were
Speaker 1: their letters with an extra symbol on top. So that's
Speaker 1: that's what you're seeing when it comes to the number
Speaker 1: and letter combination. That was called isopsophy before they were
Speaker 1: doing it all. And here the problem with isoprophy is
Speaker 1: that people don't want to go through the work of
Speaker 1: learning Greek because there's a lot to it. There's a
Speaker 1: fuck ton to it, actually, and then you got the
Speaker 1: different dialects, so it makes more sense to have it
Speaker 1: in Hebrew. I just like the Greek better, you know,
Speaker 1: I can pronounce it better. I've looked into it more,
Speaker 1: but you know it's a preference.
Speaker 2: Yes. One thing I do want to mention, I don't
Speaker 2: know if it would be an issue. I've had the
Speaker 2: issue before. It was a little bit differently. I was
Speaker 2: reading the Sacred Secret Rituals of the Oto. I could
Speaker 2: understand getting slapped with a copyright infringement on that. Believe
Speaker 2: it or not, the OTO actually did hit me with
Speaker 2: the DMCA.
Speaker 1: This.
Speaker 2: I don't know if if it happens with this and
Speaker 2: it gets taken down on YouTube, I will continue to
Speaker 2: do it or at least on rumble bit, shoot and audio.
Speaker 2: I won't let that stop me. So you know, I'm
Speaker 2: just saying if it happens to be a problem, because
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened when my Facebook came down already,
Speaker 2: I doubt it's due to copyright and fringement, but you
Speaker 2: know who knows. Yeah, I'm just letting people know. If
Speaker 2: it's an issue, I'm going to keep going with it,
Speaker 2: just not on YouTube.
Speaker 1: Right well, it is on Internet archives, so I think
Speaker 1: see the trademark or copyright has expired.
Speaker 2: So well, yeah, one would think, but no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I have to have to worry about can Kitty hit
Speaker 2: me with another DMC. It was crazy is I personally
Speaker 2: knew the fucking person who did that to me, So
Speaker 2: it was the girl was in my lodge. She was
Speaker 2: a lawyer. She was a lawyer for the OTO. I
Speaker 2: know exactly who slapped me with that DMCA. So I
Speaker 2: tried contacting them so I can go over the vision
Speaker 2: of the voice. I didn't get a fucking answer. I
Speaker 2: was like, I didn't think so, because I know if
Speaker 2: I do, if I cover that vision in the voice,
Speaker 2: they could hit me with the copyright. Then they told
Speaker 2: the person who went and filmed it was already told
Speaker 2: you can't show that online unless you ask for permission.
Speaker 2: And when she asked for the information to ask for permission,
Speaker 2: it was the same fucking lady that hit me with
Speaker 2: the DMCA copyright. I was like, Fuck, this ain't gonna
Speaker 2: work all right, but uh yeah, I'm good to be interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm just letting people know. If it
Speaker 2: becomes an issue with that stuff, I will try to
Speaker 2: keep it going as long as I can. And you know, honestly,
Speaker 2: for real, for real people that are really into this stuff,
Speaker 2: share it, Please share it out. If you're in any
Speaker 2: occult discords, share it because I will be I'll be
Speaker 2: totally honest with you. I've lost some mods and I
Speaker 2: have lost some listeners from starting to cover more of
Speaker 2: the occults. So uh maybe it would help if I
Speaker 2: actually got some more of a cultist to listen to
Speaker 2: my show instead of scared conspiracy theorists. So uh yeah,
Speaker 2: hook a brother up and send some links out there
Speaker 2: if you can.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, if you're in any groups on Facebook that have
Speaker 1: lots and lots of people, there are a bunch of
Speaker 1: occult groups on Facebook, share it in those groups. That's
Speaker 1: what I've been doing so exactly. Look at those Reddit
Speaker 1: as well. We're not on Reddit and we're mostly not
Speaker 1: on Facebook, but redd it's a great place to share it.
Speaker 2: No, we there's somebody did make a credit for us,
Speaker 2: actually really believe it or not, or if you search
Speaker 2: for us, our name does pop on there a few times,
Speaker 2: even even the whole uh whatever that the problem I
Speaker 2: had with you know, Tinfoil had that even comes up
Speaker 2: on Ready to Check. Yeah yeah, so uh yeah, if
Speaker 2: there's a readdit out there and somebody happens to see it,
Speaker 2: I'll throw us at comments or add something or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I don't keep an eye on it. A fan
Speaker 2: made it for us. I can't even get into it,
Speaker 2: but yeah, share this out and uh yeah, help us
Speaker 2: a hook a brother up with some new listeners and ship.
Speaker 2: So all right, you're good Headless.
Speaker 1: I'm good. This has been a great episode. Guys. You
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Speaker 2: Headless will still come back the next week trying to
Speaker 2: do it again. He'll still come back the next week
Speaker 2: trying to do it again.
Speaker 1: It's all part of it is.
Speaker 2: I got to push those buttons. See what happens to yeah.
Speaker 1: All of them by pushing the whole button elevator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was great. Guys, that was great
Speaker 2: when you said that. But yeah, that's the end of
Speaker 2: another Recult Rejects and again every Tuesday, hopefully around this time.
Speaker 2: If anything maybe changes with his job, et cetera, we
Speaker 2: might move around the time. But I think we're shooting
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Speaker 1: Mhm.