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your support. So have you heard of a place in

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the Palisades in southwest Charlotte Palisades area referred to as

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thug Mansion? Thug Mansion, It is not referred to as

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that by the neighbors. Well, I guess they might have started.

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But this is what is depicted on the front lawn

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of this home, which apparently is valued at like over

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a million dollars or something. It appears like there were

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a bunch of sort of the larger landscaping rocks you

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know that you would put around border. In fact, they

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are bordering like the one tree that's in the middle

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of the front yard. So these white rocks, these large

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white rocks that are like making a tree ring. And

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then there are a bunch of them that are at

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the road in front of a large fence, like a

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privacy wooden fence. Fence looks to be about I don't know,

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ten to fifteen feet off of the road, and so

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you have this strip of well, I think it was

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grass at one point, but it just looked like dirt.

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From the aerial shot that I saw, I think it

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was over at WSOCTV. I don't know if they had

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a drone or a chopper or something overhead. But while

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the Federales were raiding this house, they were shooting video

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from up above, and somebody had taken these landscaping rocks,

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which I would assume were probably like bordering I don't know,

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like the grass strip area along the road or something.

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But they reorganized the rocks to spell out thug mansion.

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And then on the other side near the driveway, it

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seemed like they had written black lives. But I guess

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they ran out of rocks because there wasn't matter at

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the bottom of that. It just had black lives that

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I could see. I don't know, maybe they did have matter,

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like maybe on the other side of the driveway or something.

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I'm not sure, but that's what that's the aerial shot

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that I saw, and the home belongs to a Charlotte

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community activist named Cedric Dean. Cedric Dean. Does that name

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ring a bell? It rang a bell for me, but

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I couldn't I couldn't place it at first. I didn't remember.

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Where do I know this name from? Cedric Dean? Cedric Dean?

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Where do I know this name from? It'll come to me.

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Federal investigators accused Charlotte community activist Cedric Dean of exploiting

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homeless people to defraud Medicaid out of millions of dollars.

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Dean used the money to buy homes, cars, and fund

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his lifestyle, according to the federal government, and now they

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are moving to seize the assets. By the way, a

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quick search of Cedric Dean turned up he is also

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so the author of a book called How to Stop

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Your Children From Going to Prison? Not really sure what

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advice he offers, but yeah, there's that. Dean has been

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well documented through the years and founded Sons Against Violence

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Everywhere or Save Save Sons Against Violence Everywhere. He's also

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a self proclaimed homeless advocate and helped youth stay away

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from violence. Cedric Dean, where do I know that name

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from Wait a minute, is that the guy that got

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arrested for for a breaking and entering and a kidnapping charge? Yeah,

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in May misdemeanor breaking and entering. He has also charged

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with previous violent and property crimes, including assault with a

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deadly weapon and kidnapping. He oh also spent more than

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twenty eight years in prison for two separate convictions. At

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age sixteen, he was convicted of robbery spent five years

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in state prison. Later, he was convicted of selling crack

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cocaine and spent time in federal prison before being released

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in twenty seventeen. It was within a year after that,

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after his release that I see he ended up standing

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with the likes of Mark Darrell County Commissioner. I believe

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he's the chairman now of the county commission, is he not?

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Mark Durell won an award of some kind he's standing

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there with. Oh, wait a minute, there's a photo of

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him here with Nancy Pelosi as well. Well, look at that.

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Oh and here's a photo of him with Tiawanna Brown,

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the illustrious indicted Charlotte City councilwoman, also a formerly incarcerated

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person or a FIP as I call them based on

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the acronym FIP. Here he is with Tijuana Brown. Oh.

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Here he is with Tijuana Brown as well, and they're

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being honored. Oh. This was from twenty eighteen, so like

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a year after he was released from the federal pen.

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Here's Mecklenberg County Sheriff Gary not My fault McFadden in

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a post on social media, Gary L. McFadden transforming the

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life of Tijuana Brown and Cedric Dean a testimony of

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true servant leadership, the difference to make the difference hashtag

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to God be the Glory, hashtag sheriff elect. So Gary

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not My fault McFadden was celebrating these two individuals, Tijuana

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Brown and Cedric Dean, as examples of the transformation that

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he has helped them achieve, that he being the hero

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or the victim, but obviously never the villain, that he

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was able to make this difference in their lives. But

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then merely what four years later or five years later,

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not even actually in Tijuana Brown's case, she got indicted

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for lying on the federal PPP loans, right, she got

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indicted for taking the money and using the money to

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pay for that birthday party. Her fiftieth birthday party where

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she had like a horse drawn carriage and she had

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a gown and she had what else did a throne?

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Remember they had the big throne built for her big

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birthday bash and all of that, and that was with

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federal PPP money. But she paid it. Remember that was

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her defense was that she paid it back as soon

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as the Feds came sniffing around saying, hey, what did

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you do with all of this money. You don't have

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a business, you don't have employees, Like, how are you

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getting all this money? You and your two daughters all indicted? Then,

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and she's like, oh, but I paid it back, So

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like that proves I'm innocent because I paid it back.

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And then I remembered when when Tijuana Brown held her

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press conference at that lawyer's office where she made this defense,

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and people were just like, what the heck is she doing?

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Why would the lawyer allow her to do this? And

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then I was thinking, like, the lawyer can't stop his

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client from doing a press conference. The lawyer, I would

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I would wager the lawyer said don't do this, but

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she insisted. That's my bet on how that would on

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how that went out? If I had to bet, and

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I'm not really a gambling and only if the lottery

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gets above a billion dollars then it's worth it to me.

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But that, to me, is probably how that went down.

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But at that press conference, there was a guy sitting

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next to her, completely underdressed for the occasion. He's wearing

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a T shirt, he's got a ball cap on. I

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think he was wearing sunglasses. He did not have the

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like seventeen pounds of gold chains around his neck which

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he features in some of his Facebook posts. I have

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noticed as all public servants and community activists obviously purchase

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and then adorn themselves with. So he wasn't all blinged

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out like that, if I recall correctly, at the at

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the press conference. But he was the guy sitting next

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to Tijuana Brown defending her and accusing the federal government

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of being racist, right, that was him. Now he's under

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investigation for the same sort of financial fraud that she was.

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And these are the two success stories that Sheriff not

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my fault McFadden has been highlighting since twenty eighteen. Yeah,

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here's another picture of Dean and Brown with McFadden where

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he has been presented with some award by Dean's organization,

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the Civil Service Award, which I'm sure is on McFadden's

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wall with all of the other awards and certifications and

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you know, little documents of appreciation that he that he

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you know, puts all over his walls. While telling interviewers

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that he doesn't point to all of the recognitions, he doesn't,

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he doesn't do that. I meanwhile, he's got a wall

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full of trophies, but he's not about the trophies. Yeah, yeah,

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this is true. This is from a story that was

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published back in August at the Charlotte Optimist, which is

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just bizarre, bizarre behavior from our sheriff. I will get

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to that. So when I was a kid, my grandpa

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died with Alzheimer's, and before he died, my mom and

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my dad took care of him as he got worse.

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Forty years ago, there were no treatments and not much

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support for caregivers and family. But things are different today

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because of the work of so many people, including the

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Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's a great organization with

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awesome people with huge hearts. I've been a supporter for

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twenty five years. This cause means a lot to me,

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I participate in the annual Walk to end Alzheimer's and

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I'm leading a Charlotte team again this year and it's

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called once again Pete's Pack. You can sign up and

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you can join the team and walk with us. It's

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on October eighteenth, that truest field. Sign up at alz

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thepetepod dot com. There's also a link in the description

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of this podcast. Also, I'll be am seeing the Gastonia

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Walk on October eleventh, and so you can make a

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team and join that one too, or make a donation

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and help me hit my goal of five thousand dollars.

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If you do, I really appreciate it. There are a

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bunch of other walks all over the Carolinas. You can

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go to alz dot org slash walk for all the

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dates and locations. We're closer than ever to stopping Alzheimer's.

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Can you help us get there? Will you walk with me?

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For a different future, for families, for more time for treatments.

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This is why we walk. Let me go over to

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the text line here, do do do a seven oh

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four number says hang On, h the rocks in the

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frontyard have been there for weeks and were placed there

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by the homeowner, not during yesterday's raid by the Feds. Yeah,

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I didn't mean to indicate or insinuate that the Feds

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did that. That was the homeowners that put the rocks

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out there, that said thug mansion and black lives matter.

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So but thank you. That is from I think it's

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Kirk or Kurt, Kurt or Kirk, I don't know. Let

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me say here then we had I know it's going

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to be a great segment when you mentioned Gary, not

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my fault, McFadden. That's from a seven oh four number.

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Another seven o four number says, by the way, you

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can give us just your name and then I can

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identify your name when I read these texts hang On.

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I could be wrong, but I think the Tiajuana Brown

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got charged for something else recently with her daughter. Yes,

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as I mentioned, she was indicted for lying on the

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PPP applications and then using the money not for her

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business but for her birthday party. She's under federal indictment

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along with her two adult daughters because they did the

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same thing. It was a family affair, and oh, Kirk says, no,

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that's not him. This is Kirk and Belmont. Okay, so

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we apparently have a bumper crop of Kurt or Kirk's

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in the audience. Okay, all right, everything's bouncing around on

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the text line. I cannot keep track of it, so

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I will go ahead and move on to the details.

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Here from WSOCTV about Cedric Dean has bought single family

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homes to turn into group homes, and he ran a

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program at a hotel where he said he tried to

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provide food, shelter, and treatment to people in need, but

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he is accused of taking advantage of the system and people.

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Dean allegedly, according to the court documents, obtained Medicaid information

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from people at homeless shelters and turned it into money

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for himself. Fed say they spoke to eight witnesses who

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either worked or lived in one of Dean's properties. They

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told investigators that he and his workers would get Medicaid

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information from people living on the street or in homeless encampments.

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Dean then used that information to submit claims for services

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that were never provided. In one case, they said, he

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claimed to have provided fifty four services to somebody who

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was dead. That seems like an open shotcase. I don't know.

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Cedric Dean Holdings build the Medicaid program at least fourteen

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and a half million dollars. From September of twenty four

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through June of twenty five, they build fourteen and a

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half million and received almost nine million. Some of the

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money was routed to accounts that were then used to

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pay for cars and houses. There's the house on young

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Blood Road that was raided. There's a house in the

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Highland Creek area on McChesney Drive. Two more homes in

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Shelby are also listed as his properties. FEDS are trying

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to seize them now, along with five vehicles and all

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the cash and the bank accounts where the Medicaid money

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was being held. Feds are also pointing out Dean's income.

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He earned a total of one hundred sixty seven thousand

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dollars a total of one sixty seven from twenty eighteen

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through twenty twenty four, so for six years after he

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got out of federal prison, one hundred and sixty seven

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grand he made, but his income then jumped to ten

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lengthy interview with Mecklenburg County Sheriff Gary Not my fault, McFadden.

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This actually occurred back in August. I have had this

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story in my stack of stuff, just waiting for this moment. No, actually,

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I just haven't been able to get to it. It's

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been very busy, so it's a very lengthy story. Highly

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recommend you read it. It's at the Charlotte Optimist website

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Charlotteoptimist dot com. The headline is the Unfiltered Sheriff Gary

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McFadden has a lot to say. I'm going to give

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you some of the highlights here. Okay, He's become one

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of North Carolina's most controversial public officials. In August, a

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chief deputy resigned issued a scorching letter that accused McFadden

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of backstabbing, lies, disrespect, and false narratives, and said his

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time in the office was the worst year of his career.

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That letter came nine months after the previous chief deputy

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resigned the same way with similar words, accusing McFadden of

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creating a quote third world dictatorship. And on top of

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all of that, in November twenty twenty four, Mecklenburg's first

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black sheriff issued a public apology after WBTV unearthed a

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recording of him using racial slurs. Still, McFadden tells me

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he's considering a run for reelection next year. His family

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patriarch style of leadership. I thought we were down with

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the patriot Oh no, not that we're down with it,

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but we have to take down the patriarchy. This family

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patriarch style of leadership would make a corporate hr rep shutter. Still,

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most employees we encounter at the jail shower him with affection.

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He's like my uncle. A detention officer says. So. Yes,

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some people really like him and some people really don't.

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But in his view, another person's opinion of him says

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more about the person than him. He's just Gary McFadden quote.

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I don't have any issues. People have issues. I don't

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have any. Gosh, he's such a martyr. He is so

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much better than every one of us. We started with

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a wavy three hour a wavy what does that mean? Scatterbrained?

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He is all over the place, and anybody who has

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sat and watched him deliver a speech or do an

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interview knows exactly what this is. It's called flight of ideas.

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It's just this bing bing bing bing, bung bung pu,

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just bouncing all around, all these different thoughts not connected

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to each other. He has a theatrical or sorry he

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was theatrical in one moment and sincere the next, Friendly

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then furious, complimentary towards supporters, then scathing towards detractors. At

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one point he said, quote, I put no awards on

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my wall, and then pointed to awards on his wall.

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This is just is remarkable writing by uh, is it? Michael? Yeah,

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Michael Graff just really, I mean fantastic writing and just absurd,

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just absolutely absurd, Like I don't I don't put no

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awards on my wall. Look, and there are awards all

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over the wall. So he's delusional. Does he not see

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the awards? He just thinks if he says there were

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no awards on the wall full of awards, that you

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won't see all the awards on his non award wall,

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Like what do you? Also the bouncing back and forth,

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complimentary then scathing, friendly, then furious, screams bipolar. He ripped

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the media for not covering positive stories like a child

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friendly visitation room, a business school that helped a former

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inmate launch a coffee truck, the first voluntary psych unit

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in North Carolina, a restoration program that reduces the caseload

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for psych hospitals, a recording studio to help mental health,

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and internal data sharing showing a lower recidivism rate. And

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what's hilarious is that on every one of those stories

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there are links. There are hyperlinks embedded in this piece

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at the Charlotte Optimist about every one of those stories

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that got covered. So he's ripping the media for not

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covering the positive stories. And every example he gives literally

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was covered by the media. I even I have covered

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the recording studio story. I mean, maybe it wasn't in

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the way he wanted it covered, Particularly when you trot

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out for the media a guy accused of murder and

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don't tell the victim's family that they're going to see

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their son's murderer on some puff piece on the evening news,

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and then you have to apologize for that pr faux pas. Yeah,

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for the insensitive nature of your pr effort. But every

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one of those stories got covered, But he says they're

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not covered. They don't cover the positive stories, Like all

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these stories that I told them to cover and then

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they did. He said, it's negative, negative, negative, And he

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says that all of this coverage, this negative coverage, it

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wears on no, no, no, not him, It wears on

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his staff. See, because he's the hero. He's the hero.

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He is just worried about how the negative coverage of

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him weighs on his staff. Oh gosh, I know, it's

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got to be frustrating. When I asked him about the

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accusations of his dictatorship or the toxic work environment, he

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flipped it around on me. Quote are you a good husband?

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Are you a good father? That's classic Darvo, by the way,

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classic reverse victim offender kind of a deal. Are you

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a good reporter? What would people say? And who would

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we believe about? Midway through the conversation, as he criticized

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the press, I turned it over to him and I

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asked him to be the reporter you solved six hundred cases.

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I said, where would you start your interview with Gary McFadden?

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What would you ask him? Here's what mc fadden said,

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Quote tell me about first grade, he snapped, tell me

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about fourth grade. Soon he was in a full performance,

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asking and answering his own questions, turning his head toward

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a wall as if he were picturing his critics. I

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did not interrupt him. According to the sorry to the

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time stamps on the audio transcript, Gary McFadden's interview with

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Gary McFadden lasted thirty four minutes. This is insane, Like,

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this is clinical insanity. You've conducted an interview with yourself

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for over half an hour. It's unbelievable. Don't tell me.

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Nobody knows what's going on with this guy. People in

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a position to actually do something about this. I want

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to believe that they are trying to convince him not

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remarkable story by Michael Graff at the Charlotte Optimist Charlotte

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Optimist dot com. The interview was conducted it was arranged

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prior to the murder of Arena Zarutzka on the light

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rail line, but it occurred after the murder and when

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he brings up the case to sheriff, not my fault

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McFadden in the context of his mental health and rehabilitation

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efforts that he's touting, right, I asked him, how we

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help people who make the most of second chances while

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protecting the community from the truly dangerous. How do we

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solve for both things? I asked? He took the question

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off the page. Quote, the majority of his time is

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spent in his community. So we take that the time

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that de Carlos Brown Junior spent with us versus the

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time that he's with the community. So who failed him?

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I didn't fail him. The community failed him, which you know,

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Michael Graf the reporter, did not suggest that McFadden had

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failed anybody. But that's what McFadden. It's not his fault, everybody.

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That's not his fault. Nobody said it was your fault. Gary.

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A Charlotte Observer investigation earlier this year found at least

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seven former employees who said McFadden was an abusive and

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dysfunctional boss. One retired employee told the paper that McFadden

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is quote the biggest narcissist hashtag true and a fire

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detention sent A fired detention center employee said, quote, he

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thinks he's godlike hashtag true. Former Chief Deputy Kevin Canty

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told WCNC last year that quote, it's the most toxic

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environment I've ever worked in. McFadden said he can't legally

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respond to the individual letters that were written. McFadden admits

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that the closer a stafford gets to him on the

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organizational chart, the more pressure he puts onto them. The

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resignation letters indicate that those closest to him, With those people,

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he's crossed a line or multiple lines. Even if he

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disagrees quote why is it so hard to work for

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the sheriff? He said, I just want to know. I

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have to have this knowledge. I have to understand. You've

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been told repeatedly why it's so difficult to work for you,

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But for some reason you either don't believe them or

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you don't want to believe them. But you have been

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told this idea that, oh, I don't know, why do

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people have such a hard time working for me? They

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literally wrote you the reasons in the letters, They gave examples.

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They even produced an audio tape like there, Yeah, it

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has been communicated to you. His office is full of symbols.

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There's a leather bound notebook where he wrote the opening

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page of a memoir that he intends to finish after

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he's done being sheriff. It's dated December third, twenty eighteen,

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the day he was sworn in. This is what he wrote,

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Gary McFadden, first African American sheriff of Mecklimberg County. I

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am thankful for my life, my health, my family. God

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has given me a mission. Hate will come to me

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in different color. I'm ready. He was part of a

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wave of firsts. Vy Lyles became the first black woman mayor.

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Spencer Meriweather became the first black district attorney same year

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mcfannon was elected. McFadden is unquestionably not like his peers,

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including cmpde Chief Johnny Jennings. They're all even tempered, diligent,

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and averse to creating dust clouds. They're the sort of

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folks who'll probably curl up with a book in retirement

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rather than write one about themselves, as narcissists do. When

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I simply suggested to McFadden that he stands apart, he

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started swatting maybe at me, maybe at them, maybe at

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the ghosts of the people who enslaved his ancestors, maybe

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all of the above. He said, quote, we want to

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still mold him, to Vi, to Jennings, to Spenser and

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all them. I'm not them. It's all expected to be.

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If they're quiet and they're quiet, you're supposed to be

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quiet too. How dare you You're supposed to be quiet too.

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You don't know your place. He looked at me, a

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white guy, and said, see, you don't get this. When

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black children speak, well, you know what they say. Oh

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he speaks so well. He dressed so nice. See, we

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don't want to go there. He dressed so nice, he's

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so well mattern. We like them because they're not outspoken,

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they're nice. And he was code switching this whole time.

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And then he unleashed Find any one of them with

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more awards than I have, Find any one of them

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who's more connected to the community than I have. Take

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a vote, walk five of us in the community and

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see who the people gravitate to find that out the people. Shriff,

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All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much

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for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.