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<v Speaker 1>You see something's going to happen. What what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>I think what?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome everybody to another edition of seven seven seven. I

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<v Speaker 2>am joined by my co host Nick Nick. Tell him

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<v Speaker 2>what you've been up to?

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>When I was today, I was actually finishing editing up

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<v Speaker 4>a new show, a new episode for.

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<v Speaker 1>It, so on that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think he's considered that, Oh yeah, he might

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<v Speaker 4>be a gnostic dude. I'm trying to think if he's

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<v Speaker 4>a Gnostic saint or not in the OTO or through

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<v Speaker 4>the EGC. But I do think he's considered a gnostic.

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<v Speaker 4>This guy Manny and Manichism.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet, well he's an extreme duelist, right, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>where we get our Manichy and terminology from yo.

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<v Speaker 4>That guy was he was fucking pretty serious with like

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<v Speaker 4>the nose and don't you know what I found really

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<v Speaker 4>interesting about him? And I was like, all right, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not the only fucking sick fuck that thinks this way.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have a problem with people having kids. I

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<v Speaker 4>just decide not to. But he did say he thought

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<v Speaker 4>that people having kids is just perpetuating the issue misery.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always something funny I find about all these radical

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<v Speaker 2>duelists is that they're anti natalists. You know, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>believe that having more children is good because they believe

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<v Speaker 2>this world is evil.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very Yeah, Well the way I look at it

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<v Speaker 4>is like I don't look at it so much as

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<v Speaker 4>a prison planet, but I guess I do it to

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<v Speaker 4>a point to where it's like, well, you don't have

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<v Speaker 4>any prisoners. If there's no prisoners, there's no prison right,

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<v Speaker 4>so us obviously keeping the race going is going to

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<v Speaker 4>keep the prison open.

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<v Speaker 2>It shows an extreme amount of faith and aestheticism. Right

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<v Speaker 2>when people can say it, oh, we're ending at all,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, wow, you're just gonna take all of this

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<v Speaker 2>world for granted and just throw it all away. So

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<v Speaker 2>if it is a prison planet, that's that's what hell

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<v Speaker 2>of a sacrifice. I think we have a good impact

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<v Speaker 2>on the world for the part I mean. So today

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go take a little bit of a detour.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been doing the whole Alistair Crowley seven seven seventh thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a really good video by Gnostic Informat where

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<v Speaker 2>he's breaking down the golden ratio and how it applies

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<v Speaker 2>to Jamatria in the Bible and to five, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I thought we could just do a live reaction to it,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I will bring that up here.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Nastic in Format has a pretty influential channel where he's

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<v Speaker 2>going over a lot of biblical mysteries and biblical stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but this one is less about the text and more

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<v Speaker 2>about sort of the origin of why people think that

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<v Speaker 2>there is a Bible code. And we see in seven

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<v Speaker 2>seven seven over and over again he's often referring to

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<v Speaker 2>this Bible code, and I think it requires more fleshing out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought a quick detour might help people understand

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<v Speaker 2>what we've been talking about on this show just a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit better. So let's start her up. And anytime

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<v Speaker 2>you want me to.

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<v Speaker 1>Just let me just let me just remind the listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>I've mentioned this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I've tagged him because he you know, on Twitter, unless

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<v Speaker 4>unless you follow each other back, you can't. You can't

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<v Speaker 4>DMN somebody and I have tagged this guy or commented

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<v Speaker 4>on his shit about coming on the show, and he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just I can't get in touch with them. So

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<v Speaker 4>the listeners, if anybody's active on social media, go over

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<v Speaker 4>there and tag it you and be like when you're

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<v Speaker 4>going on the Occult Rejects because he said yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, So we need the mob effect. So if you,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you're watching this later, get out there and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>nastick it for me. Why don't you go on the

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<v Speaker 2>occult rejects. They like your stuff and it would be

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<v Speaker 2>a great interview, is starting point. So yeah, just let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's make it happen. Everybody, thank you, all right, so

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<v Speaker 2>let's start it here.

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to jump on here and do respond to

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<v Speaker 5>some of the comments I get about my introduction of

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<v Speaker 5>my live streams. Yesterday I did a whole video on

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<v Speaker 5>the Platonic influence on Genesis, mostly from Plato's Tomais, but

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<v Speaker 5>also other texts like The Statesman's describes a paradise or

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<v Speaker 5>garden of eating like fig place and close to Genesis. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 5>the introduction of my videos usually show the movie Pie,

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<v Speaker 5>where there's this guy sitting in a bar talking to

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<v Speaker 5>a rabbi and he tells them that the Torah is

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<v Speaker 5>like a code sent from God.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, this is not the first sort of biblical movie

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<v Speaker 2>that he's done. He also did that Noah movie, so

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<v Speaker 2>he is very deep into this whole Bible code thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Towar is just a long string of numbers. Some say

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<v Speaker 6>that it's a code sent to us from God.

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<v Speaker 1>And the guy who's like, oh, that's interesting, he'said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kids stuff. Check this out.

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<v Speaker 5>Garden of Eden condemned and the the Tree of Knowledge

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<v Speaker 5>of good and evil. That's the kayem. It's two thirty

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<v Speaker 5>three and one four.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's just get stuff. Check this out.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, the word for the Garden of Eden hit them

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<v Speaker 6>miracle translation. Now the value of Tree of Knowledge right

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<v Speaker 6>in the garden right as a jayam.

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<v Speaker 1>Two thirty three to thirty three.

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<v Speaker 5>You can take. You divide those up, and then other

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<v Speaker 5>guy cuts them off and goes, that's Fibonacci sequence.

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<v Speaker 1>Fibonacci. You can take those numbers, so you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>the Fibonacci sequence. Fibonacci.

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<v Speaker 5>Fibonacci's an Italian mathematician in the thirteenth century.

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<v Speaker 2>If you divide one hundred and forty four into two

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty three, the result approaches data theta data

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<v Speaker 2>Greek symbol colden ratio golden spiral.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I never saw that before.

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<v Speaker 6>That's like that series you find in nature, like the

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<v Speaker 6>face of a sunflower.

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<v Speaker 2>The spirals.

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<v Speaker 1>You see this math everywhere.

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<v Speaker 6>See.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, he doesn't really get into it too much, but

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<v Speaker 2>I woant to especially stress exactly why they they look

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<v Speaker 2>at FI as being such an important number for the

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<v Speaker 2>Greeks is because it's repeated over and over and over

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<v Speaker 2>again in nature. And so when they're basing all of

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<v Speaker 2>their art and technology and mathematics on this number, it's

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<v Speaker 2>specifically because all of these things are repeating over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again in nature. So this is like following the

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<v Speaker 2>path of the gods or the number numerical values that

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<v Speaker 2>you find in nature first. So you know, he gives

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of credit to the Greeks in this one.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'd say it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Wonder I wonder if that's why Nazis are so big

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<v Speaker 4>into botany. I always wondered that because of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Two, they were huge in trying to figure out the

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<v Speaker 2>laws of nature and the base code of reality. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they were.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really good. Head plans would be great for that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, you know, it's make up everything Golden ratio.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the ancient Greeks mathematics.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, let's go to ancient Greece to the time

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<v Speaker 3>of the Thagoras, the master aghead of them all, the

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<v Speaker 3>father of mathematics and music. You'll find mathematics in the

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<v Speaker 3>hindest places. What first on, need to strength, stretch it

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<v Speaker 3>good and tight. Plucket, Now divide in half. Plunk again.

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<v Speaker 3>You see it's the same tone, one octave higher. Now

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<v Speaker 3>divide the next section and the next. The Thigorists discovered

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<v Speaker 3>the octave had a ratio of two to one with

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<v Speaker 3>simple fractions. He got this how many numbers developed the

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<v Speaker 3>musical scale of today.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not just in the visual representation, it's also

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<v Speaker 2>in sound. Right, So these are natural expressions of fire

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<v Speaker 2>that get repeated over and over again. This is why

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<v Speaker 2>you would want to encode things in this ratio. Also

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<v Speaker 2>why we see it happening again and again in seven

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<v Speaker 2>seven seven. He's paying attention to things like the Fibonacci

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<v Speaker 2>sequence when it comes to the numbering of words. Just

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<v Speaker 2>a very relevant thing when it when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>You can imagine how excited the Thagoras was when he

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<v Speaker 3>shared his findings with his Pearls, a fraternity of Higgins

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<v Speaker 3>known as the Pagarians. They used to be in secret

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<v Speaker 3>to discuss their mathematical discoveries these were allowed to attend.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, colleges, what's that?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they really do that with a pentagram on their head?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, okay, And it's it's funny that a guy like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Walt Disney would be producing this because he

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<v Speaker 2>is a member of one of those secret societies. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a member of the what's the children's order for

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<v Speaker 2>the Freemasons called the d Malay Society. He was never

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<v Speaker 2>a full member of the Masons. But if this is

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<v Speaker 2>what they're teaching in the d. Malay Society, that's pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, all of this stuff used to be passed

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<v Speaker 2>on from generation to generation through the mystery schools, which, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the Freemasons are a certain iteration of.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see what the time it is for today. It

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<v Speaker 3>was our old friend Pythagoras who discovered that the pentagram

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<v Speaker 3>was full of mathematic The two shorter lines combined exactly

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<v Speaker 3>equal the third, and this line shows the magic proportions

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<v Speaker 3>of the famous golden section. The second and third lines

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<v Speaker 3>exactly equal the fourth. Once again we have the golden section.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is only the beginning. Hidden within the pentagram

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<v Speaker 3>is a secret for creating a golden rectangle, which the

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<v Speaker 3>Greeks admired for its beautiful proportions and magic qualities. The

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<v Speaker 3>star contains the golden rectangle many times over.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a quick note, though, what was the guest we

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<v Speaker 2>had on who was talking about constructing sacred geometry and

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<v Speaker 2>then realizing, Hey, this is like a portal in a

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<v Speaker 2>whole other world. You got to make this stuff firsthand

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<v Speaker 2>so that you can actually experience it. Once you could

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<v Speaker 2>start to go through the steps to create these different

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<v Speaker 2>you know, ratios and numbers in your own hands, it

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<v Speaker 2>becomes like a portal. And this is why you use

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<v Speaker 2>the sacred geometry in magic, right. So this is very

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<v Speaker 2>applicable to what's coming up next.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the most remarkable shape. It can mathematically reproduce itself indefinitely.

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<v Speaker 3>All these rectangles have exactly the same proportions. This figure

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<v Speaker 3>also contains a magic spiral that repeats the proportions of

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<v Speaker 3>the golden section into infinity. To the Greeks, the golden

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<v Speaker 3>rectangle represented a mathematical law of beauty. We find it

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<v Speaker 3>in their classical architecture. The Parthena, perhaps one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most famous early Greek buildings, contains many golden rectangles. The Erichthion,

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<v Speaker 3>these same golden proportions are also found in their sculpture.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, all of this math maath is found in

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<v Speaker 2>the human form as well, and in perfect proportion to

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<v Speaker 2>one another. It creates the type of beauty that the

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<v Speaker 2>Greeks were obsessed with. So they're saying, not only is

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<v Speaker 2>it found in plants, not only is it found in

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<v Speaker 2>all of these other places, it's found the inside of

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<v Speaker 2>the form that we are brought into it. It's very

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<v Speaker 2>much about insoling or informing the sacred or the beauty

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<v Speaker 2>beyond imagine. Right. So when they talk about the forms

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<v Speaker 2>of Plato, right, so his sacred idea of the forms,

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<v Speaker 2>So absolute.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when they said that and they started showing the architecture,

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and this is going to get into Jamatria in

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<v Speaker 3>In the centuries that followed, the Golden Rectangle dominated the

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<v Speaker 3>painters knew this secret well. Think of a pentagram donald

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<v Speaker 3>now another inside, a third and a fourth. No pencil

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<v Speaker 2>No pencil is sharp enough to draw a form as

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<v Speaker 2>what's you know, sharpening your imagination, creating something that is

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<v Speaker 1>Right. The news the news, yes, yo, when I when I.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when I covered Platinus, like a lot of the stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>so then if I don't hear it pronounced, sometimes I'm

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I called a noose or whatever. I

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<v Speaker 4>The whole episode bro and then when I fucking I went,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, you know what, why don't I have

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<v Speaker 4>I had to go through the whole show and edit

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<v Speaker 4>every fucking time I said that, I wanted to blow

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I must have said it like fifty times.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I mean, it's a huge

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff, right, Like I was thinking about the noose of Zeus,

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<v Speaker 2>right because in the in the that's good, I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet in the Orphic Hymns they talk about all things

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<v Speaker 2>around his head is altered shine, right, So in the

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<v Speaker 2>Orphic Hymn they're talking about the noose of Zeus. Basically

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<v Speaker 2>he's the he's the creator of the matrix, right, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know they make it clear. And also you've got

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<v Speaker 2>Athena who springs from the head of Zeus and Athena

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<v Speaker 2>is wisdom. So it's it's sort of like this is

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<v Speaker 2>the manifestation of the noose of Zeus, or like the

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<v Speaker 2>logos of it. But you know, it's it's a different theology.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, once you understand it, it's not hard

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<v Speaker 2>to see why it would be copied over and over again,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like this golden ratio.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, it is only in the mind that we

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<v Speaker 3>can conceive infinity. Mathematical thinking has opened the doors to

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<v Speaker 3>the exciting adventures of science. Each discovery leads to many others,

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<v Speaker 3>an endless chain. Of course, they are lot these are

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<v Speaker 3>the doors of the future, and the key is right, mathematics,

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<v Speaker 3>the boundless treasures of science are locked behind those doors.

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<v Speaker 3>In time, they will be opened by the curious and

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<v Speaker 2>In the words of Galilee, isn't that interesting? So they're

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<v Speaker 2>throwing a little bit more magical thinking into this this

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<v Speaker 2>whole milieu by talking about the doors of the future

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<v Speaker 2>are open through mathematics. Our mathematics hasn't progressed at all

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<v Speaker 2>since the nineteen seventies, right, we're still stuck on stupid

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<v Speaker 2>with the string theory and all of the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>these things that are not really progressing human understanding. There

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<v Speaker 2>might be more and better things, but not accepted in

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<v Speaker 2>the world of science. So what they're talking about here

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<v Speaker 2>is breaking everything down into numerical values and using those

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<v Speaker 2>numerical values to construct models, to predict the future and

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<v Speaker 2>to create these different systems. And we're still stuck in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen seventies. So if you even take this short

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<v Speaker 2>thing seriously, which I think you should, they're saying that

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<v Speaker 2>the doors of the future are kind of being closed

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So mathematics is the alphabet with which God.

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<v Speaker 5>Has written the universe, the spiral that you see in nature, sunflowers,

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<v Speaker 5>human embryos, galaxies, beautiful faces, the mark of beauty, the

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<v Speaker 5>market of God.

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<v Speaker 1>Good itself up what we said, we have that in

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<v Speaker 1>our cornea. That's well too, yes we do.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you look at the proportions of the eyeball itself,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got the outer circle, the inner circle, the inner

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<v Speaker 2>inner circle, all of these things. Go buy the Fibonacci sequence.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, even the heart.

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<v Speaker 4>They think about the heart, how that kind of actually

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<v Speaker 4>wraps up tell you the truth, If you think about it,

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<v Speaker 4>you unravel a heart's.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea the heart is kind of a fibonaci spiral right

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<v Speaker 2>there in the middle.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the Greeks used to build their temples based on

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<v Speaker 5>the ratio of what it's known as fi. Now the

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<v Speaker 5>movie calls it theta. I have no idea why it's

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<v Speaker 5>not theta, it's fee. So the movie's wrong about that,

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<v Speaker 5>but the movie is correct. People ask me this all

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<v Speaker 5>the time. Here's the answer. They say, is that really

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<v Speaker 5>in the Bible or is that made up? Is hetze

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<v Speaker 5>kayem and condemn when we do gamatria and get their

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<v Speaker 5>numerology when we divide it up, is that the golden ratio?

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is. And people asking what about the Greek side,

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<v Speaker 1>the septuagen is that is that in there too? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not.

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<v Speaker 5>The Greek does not have the golden ratio. The Hebrew does. So,

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, first of all, this is weird, also.

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<v Speaker 2>Very important to note because you've got people like Lady

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<v Speaker 2>originally in uh in Greek. If it was, it would

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<v Speaker 2>be an isopsific values, which would be the Greek version. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>totally different exactly. So you do have that sort of

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<v Speaker 2>proof there If it's supposed to be mathematically perfect i e.

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<v Speaker 2>From God, then you've got to go with the Hebrew

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<v Speaker 2>version instead of the Greek version. So that is a

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<v Speaker 2>kind of another proof.

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<v Speaker 5>There, because the Greeks are the ones who invented gamatria.

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<v Speaker 5>The word gamatra is not even a Hebrew word, it's

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<v Speaker 5>a Greek word. It has no Semitic etymology. It's the

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<v Speaker 5>same etymology where we get the word geometry from Greek mathematics.

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<v Speaker 1>Isopsophy they call it.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is Pythagorean numerology, mysticism even the early Now

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<v Speaker 5>he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Really get into it too much, but the idea is

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<v Speaker 2>that isopsaphy is just where you put a little dot

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<v Speaker 2>over each Greek letter representing a number, and so you

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<v Speaker 2>would have to know the numbering system to transform what

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<v Speaker 2>do we see right here? Eight eight eight, fourteen eighty right,

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<v Speaker 2>All of these different numerical values in here are different

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<v Speaker 2>from Greek to Hebrew. But this is isopsophy being combined

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<v Speaker 2>with jamatri. Jamatri is you know, generally more of a

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<v Speaker 5>Christians, we're big into this. Eight eight eight is Jesus

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<v Speaker 5>he's the divine logos. There's eight monads in the Greek alphabet.

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<v Speaker 5>When you drop the digama out, there's eight du odds

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<v Speaker 5>and there's eight triples eight eight eight, which is the

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<v Speaker 5>dermatria of Jesus. Jesus in Greek, he's the logos incardinate.

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<v Speaker 5>That's very interesting that Valentinians were obsessed with this. There's facilities,

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<v Speaker 5>the facility.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why I wanted to do this one, because

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<v Speaker 2>you've been working on Valentinus first.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, yo' it's funny. I even went through the

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<v Speaker 4>script again last night and like edited again. I'm like, yo,

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<v Speaker 4>I just need to fucking record this thing. I'm like

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<v Speaker 4>stuck on the script for like weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So, yeah, is Valentinus obsessed with this, this sort

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<v Speaker 2>of numbering of God.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, from what I got out of it, he was

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<v Speaker 4>pretty Uh he was big into that, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>see also I might be confused with a guy I've

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<v Speaker 4>covered so my other ones. Was he also be big

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<v Speaker 4>into rituals too as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Very much. So all of this stuff had to be

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<v Speaker 2>mathematically perfect so that it could resonate with the divine

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's that's what a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are missing on this stuff is that when you write

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<v Speaker 2>these words and these letters, it has to resonate with

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<v Speaker 2>the divine, and five being a divine ratio that you

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<v Speaker 2>can find in nature, and all of these different things

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<v Speaker 2>resonates on the same level as this, uh, this text,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why it is numbered in that way, is

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<v Speaker 2>because what you're trying to do is to simulate or

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<v Speaker 2>or create a resonance between the words, letters, numbers you're

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<v Speaker 2>writing and all of nature, all of the divine. So

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<v Speaker 2>that that's really what I think it comes down to.

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<v Speaker 1>He was he was a Christian too, wasn't he?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to cover him.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, it's it's interesting around that time that he was around,

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<v Speaker 4>I think, like what I even named it, the episode

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<v Speaker 4>if I stay with it, the War for Christianity, because

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<v Speaker 4>at that time you have all these dudes that actually

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<v Speaker 4>have their own opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>That I mean, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually like, I don't know if they realize how many,

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<v Speaker 4>like how many options there were to finally.

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<v Speaker 1>Choose which one we're going to go with. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if a lot of people realize that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right well, by the time everything was sort of distilled

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<v Speaker 2>down into one comprehensive system. They had a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, that's why I wanted to show.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think a lot of people fucking know that

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<v Speaker 4>at all, right, or or people that are considered Christians

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<v Speaker 4>back then.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think people realize, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So all of it is based upon this theology of number,

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<v Speaker 2>and the theology of number is what we find in

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<v Speaker 2>all of this Kabbala stuff. That's where it's coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like the base level code of reality. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why they wanted it to be perfect, because it's perfect

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<v Speaker 2>in nature. You can follow the path of nature to

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<v Speaker 2>find these perfect ratios, and therefore the word of God

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<v Speaker 2>has to be in that similar form. That's why they

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<v Speaker 2>say every word comes from God. Right, That's what they're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, and that gets confused for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 5>The Dean's another gnostic sect a Bractis's name Abrastos means

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<v Speaker 5>three sixty five. He is a time god, the year

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<v Speaker 5>the solar solar cycle of the three sixty five. You

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<v Speaker 5>also have Nero sixty sixty six, so you can see

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<v Speaker 5>Christians are using gamatria. Filo uses gamatria. The Kabbalists use Gamontria.

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<v Speaker 5>People push back against this, and they say this is

425
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<v Speaker 5>a dubious he has are arbitrarily choosing two random words

426
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<v Speaker 5>in the Hebrew Bible. Why not Adam's name?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? I don't know, why not the Tree of

428
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<v Speaker 1>Knowledge and the Tree of life. Why can't we divide them?

429
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<v Speaker 2>It is too Adam's name, the Tree of Knowledge is

430
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<v Speaker 2>the tree of life. All of that is still geometric.

431
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<v Speaker 2>It's all of the same character, right Adam Cadmon, and

432
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<v Speaker 2>that same sort of focus towards the number in the

433
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<v Speaker 2>words that were chosen to be these different characters os up.

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<v Speaker 5>Why does it have to be the Garden of Eden

435
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<v Speaker 5>and the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil? It's

436
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<v Speaker 5>a fair pushback, and the reason why is because the

437
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<v Speaker 5>golden ratio shows up naturally everywhere. So if you start

438
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<v Speaker 5>taking two random words in Hebrew and just start dividing

439
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<v Speaker 5>them up, just just keep picking two random words randomly,

440
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<v Speaker 5>eventually about one hundred times in you're going to get

441
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<v Speaker 5>the golden ratio.

442
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<v Speaker 1>And so that's how frequently it shows up.

443
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<v Speaker 5>But the pushback against that is Kadem and at Sekayim

444
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<v Speaker 5>are in the same passage together. They're not feel like

445
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<v Speaker 5>I'm taking a word from Genesis and another word from uh.

446
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<v Speaker 2>This is why Alistair Crowley has chosen the words and

447
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<v Speaker 2>the numbers that he did is based upon where they're

448
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<v Speaker 2>at in the different stories right there. These are the

449
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<v Speaker 2>essential or the stressed words in the these different sections.

450
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<v Speaker 2>That's you know again, this is this is what the

451
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<v Speaker 2>people who are into Kabbala, into these numerical systems are

452
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<v Speaker 2>looking at. Is because within the given sections of the text,

453
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<v Speaker 2>that's where you're willing to find those golden ratios again

454
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<v Speaker 2>and again and again. This is part of the formulation

455
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<v Speaker 2>of how this religious system.

456
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<v Speaker 1>Is based.

457
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<v Speaker 5>Isaiah or even you know numbers and I'm just randomly

458
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<v Speaker 5>picking those two and putting them together. No, they're in

459
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<v Speaker 5>the same passage together, in the same chapter, in the

460
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<v Speaker 5>same versus one verse apart from each other, and they

461
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<v Speaker 5>have and they're very much related. Codem is the garden,

462
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<v Speaker 5>the tree of knowledge of evil is what gets them

463
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<v Speaker 5>out of the garden.

464
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<v Speaker 1>So you can see it maps.

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<v Speaker 5>It even looks like the golden ratio if you think

466
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<v Speaker 5>about it, because the garden is that pinpoint, that perfect monad,

467
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<v Speaker 5>and then you can see the spiraling out into the

468
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<v Speaker 5>golden ratio, which is the tree of knowledge good and evil.

469
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<v Speaker 5>So from the one comes the many, so the garden

470
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<v Speaker 5>of Eden, from eating from the trade of good knowledge.

471
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<v Speaker 5>They leave the realm of forms, the perfect realm of forms,

472
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<v Speaker 5>that's all news, it's all intelligible, and they go into

473
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<v Speaker 5>the realm of matter and decay and death.

474
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<v Speaker 1>That is now just you know.

475
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<v Speaker 2>Again what we're talking about there is from the many

476
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:26.640
<v Speaker 2>come or from the one comes the many. This is

477
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<v Speaker 2>very very platonic, right, and that.

478
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Speaker 7>Influence is so much thinking, you know, and that's even kinbalistic,

479
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:37.880
<v Speaker 7>which you know, who knows that was influenced anyway, But yeah,

480
00:28:38.279 --> 00:28:39.799
<v Speaker 7>Cather comes from everything.

481
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<v Speaker 2>Right, and so once once we can sort of map

482
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:47.319
<v Speaker 2>it out in that way, that's when this stuff like

483
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:50.240
<v Speaker 2>Kabbala really starts to make sense, is because what they're

484
00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:54.279
<v Speaker 2>trying to do is say it spirals out from the one.

485
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:57.720
<v Speaker 2>And then you've got you know, people like Tool making

486
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>entire albums in the fibonacci because it has always been related.

487
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:08.599
<v Speaker 2>This number sequence has been related back to God himself, right,

488
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.400
<v Speaker 2>the one, the source, the monad, and what we saw

489
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>with the very first thing. Dividing up the different parts

490
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 2>of the modad gives you different ratios and those different

491
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:23.160
<v Speaker 2>ratios have different sounds. Right, this is the idea of

492
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:27.440
<v Speaker 2>the emanations of form. And that's why all of this

493
00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:30.559
<v Speaker 2>stuff is important and plays a role, is because now

494
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>we're starting to see the spiral. And when you can

495
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.720
<v Speaker 2>see the spiral coming from creation, then the whatever's happening

496
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>in the narrative sort of takes a back seat to

497
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:43.839
<v Speaker 2>the perfect ratios that you're trying to create. It's it's

498
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<v Speaker 2>a different way of looking at it, but I think

499
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<v Speaker 2>equally is valid.

500
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<v Speaker 1>You know what the golden ratio. I find it interesting too.

501
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<v Speaker 4>It's not so much like the golden ratio or spiral,

502
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<v Speaker 4>oblike if you kind of like I've always wondered like them,

503
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<v Speaker 4>I have, you know, I question what's out there to

504
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<v Speaker 4>begin with? And I have wondered if things are going

505
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<v Speaker 4>on a little bit differently, if they are real out there.

506
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<v Speaker 4>And the way Tycho brahe kind of looked at it

507
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<v Speaker 4>is the way I actually thought it would make sense,

508
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<v Speaker 4>is like it's more of like this sun and the

509
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 4>moon is spinning around us, and I do wonder, like again,

510
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<v Speaker 4>it's almost it's not a spiral, but it is like

511
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<v Speaker 4>a something you know, Oh, it's circular and I've always wondered,

512
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<v Speaker 4>like just my opinion, I've wondered if the moon of

513
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<v Speaker 4>the Sun has something to do with that spiral type

514
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<v Speaker 4>thing going on.

515
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<v Speaker 2>That kind of gets into Einsteinian physics as well in relativity,

516
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.640
<v Speaker 2>because you know, as they're moving out there, you have

517
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<v Speaker 2>a time dilation between you and that object in motion.

518
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<v Speaker 2>So Tycho Brahe's mathematical modeling of the universe is still

519
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<v Speaker 2>better than the heliocentric model. Yeah, what how could that be? Well,

520
00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.039
<v Speaker 2>if you go to Einsteinian physics, it kind of has

521
00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.519
<v Speaker 2>an answer for you. There's a time dilation between you

522
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 2>and that object out there. So if you're looking at

523
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.640
<v Speaker 2>it from the heliocentric model, it can never be perfect.

524
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:14.519
<v Speaker 2>If you're looking at it from your perspective, it has

525
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:19.519
<v Speaker 2>more perfection included in those calculations than if you're doing

526
00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:23.319
<v Speaker 2>it the other way around. So just from the human perspective, again,

527
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>every moment is half you and half of the outside world.

528
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 2>It's better to start from within as opposed to's starting

529
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<v Speaker 2>from without.

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<v Speaker 4>One thing I do find interesting too, I didn't notice

531
00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:37.279
<v Speaker 4>until like recently, maybe the last few months, because of

532
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.000
<v Speaker 4>some of the guests I've had on I didn't know

533
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:44.480
<v Speaker 4>it was a thing where people actually followed Braes's idea

534
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:47.319
<v Speaker 4>and didn't really look at couplers. And I was like,

535
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:49.759
<v Speaker 4>I should tell you something, if they're ocultist, that they're

536
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 4>looking at his model in that couplos.

537
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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, because it's more mathematically perfect. And that's really what

538
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:00.960
<v Speaker 2>made Tycho Brahe the center of the universe is because

539
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 2>he he calculated it out with his you know, primitive

540
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:09.039
<v Speaker 2>instruments to turn into huge machines.

541
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Do it by eye?

542
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 4>He was off like an eighth of an arcment. It

543
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:16.920
<v Speaker 4>is some fucking ridiculous shit. By eye, dude. He's stuff

544
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:19.119
<v Speaker 4>is stuff that like is insane accurate.

545
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and go back and listen to uh accult rejects

546
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Tycho Brahe. It is very entertaining. You got to get

547
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:30.279
<v Speaker 2>into this mathematical way of seeing the world because this

548
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:36.319
<v Speaker 2>is how people today even still use these these mathematical models,

549
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:37.759
<v Speaker 2>because they still hold up.

550
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<v Speaker 4>That's why I do think people do get obsessed with

551
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:42.359
<v Speaker 4>the skies because of the mathematics and there. I think

552
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:43.880
<v Speaker 4>they catch on to that and that and that's what

553
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:47.000
<v Speaker 4>gets them going. Because you don't have to really trust, well,

554
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 4>who the fuck knows what it is. But I'm just

555
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:50.279
<v Speaker 4>doing math with what's going on out there.

556
00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Right, zero trust system. You're just using the numbers. This

557
00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.319
<v Speaker 2>is why you've got the trivium grammar, logic, and rhetoric,

558
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:04.680
<v Speaker 2>and then the quadrivium which includes astronomy astrology. What they

559
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.279
<v Speaker 2>were trying to do is use all of the mathematics

560
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:12.519
<v Speaker 2>in the universe to fully understand the relationships or the

561
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:15.720
<v Speaker 2>associations between all of these things in the heavens that

562
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:21.759
<v Speaker 2>have these very periodic cycles to our own lives. Right,

563
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 2>you're making those strong associations. And again, what we're doing

564
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:28.680
<v Speaker 2>is going from numbers to letters to words, to whole

565
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 2>books to whole chapters. Right, it's the same idea. You're

566
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:36.359
<v Speaker 2>just creating those strong associations that appear in nature first

567
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.680
<v Speaker 2>and then get manifested in other ways into the story.

568
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<v Speaker 2>And it has a strong, strong power.

569
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<v Speaker 5>To it.

570
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>That is kind of mind blowing.

571
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:51.599
<v Speaker 5>This looks intentional to me, especially when you couple that

572
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<v Speaker 5>up with what a Filo says, the idea of the documentary.

573
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<v Speaker 1>Hypothesis that this is a mistake.

574
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<v Speaker 5>There's two atoms, one in Genesis, two in Genesis three,

575
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:02.640
<v Speaker 5>and one of them is made in the image of God,

576
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:04.920
<v Speaker 5>and the other one's made from a clump of dust.

577
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:08.119
<v Speaker 5>That's people say that's a mistake, but Filo says, no,

578
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:11.960
<v Speaker 5>there's two atoms. There's this spiritual perfect atom, and then

579
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:13.280
<v Speaker 5>there's the earthly atom.

580
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Another thing.

581
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<v Speaker 5>In Plato's Tomaeus, the world's soul, which is created in

582
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<v Speaker 5>the image of God, and all of humans are created

583
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<v Speaker 5>in the image of the world's soul, happens to have

584
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:27.199
<v Speaker 5>a diad within it, a female life giving aspect, Hava

585
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 5>eve Zoe. So the world soul is a diad with

586
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<v Speaker 5>a female spirit, Plato says to himself, he calls it

587
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 5>a her. He says, her spirit is even older than

588
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:42.039
<v Speaker 5>the world's soul itself. So just like Adam and Eve

589
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 5>are a diad, Plato's world soul is a diad. So

590
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:48.840
<v Speaker 5>you and the only two texts in the ancient world

591
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:51.400
<v Speaker 5>that have God creating man in the image of God

592
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:54.559
<v Speaker 5>is Plato's Timaeus and Genesis.

593
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<v Speaker 2>Bingo. Now that's important because they're both working off of

594
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:07.360
<v Speaker 2>the same mathematical based formulations, and that's why they sort

595
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:11.079
<v Speaker 2>of integrate so well with each other. Between Platinism and

596
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:14.920
<v Speaker 2>the Bible, these are just two stories using the same

597
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:19.559
<v Speaker 2>modeling technique, going back to the golden ratio itself.

598
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<v Speaker 5>Right, So, yeah, the Gomatria thing, it comes from the

599
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.719
<v Speaker 5>from the Pythegoreans. That's that's an idea that comes from Greeks.

600
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<v Speaker 5>The word gomatria is not a Semitic word, has no

601
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 5>antecedent and and a Semitic word.

602
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a Greek word. That's where we get geometry from.

603
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 5>So I think when you couple that up with Plato's

604
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:48.039
<v Speaker 5>influence and you say, wow, they're using two words, they're

605
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:52.000
<v Speaker 5>constructing some sort of it looks like they're constructing something here. Now,

606
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:55.480
<v Speaker 5>is it possible that the the critic critics are correct,

607
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:57.199
<v Speaker 5>this is all just made up, or this is all

608
00:35:57.280 --> 00:35:58.000
<v Speaker 5>just coincidence.

609
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.639
<v Speaker 1>It's possible. I'm not closed up that I'm not dying on.

610
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<v Speaker 5>This hill, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was

611
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:08.559
<v Speaker 5>some sort of numer number mysticism thing happening in Genesis.

612
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:17.360
<v Speaker 1>There you go promote. That's even something that Pico della

613
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Mirandel is even known for, is just dragging a you know,

614
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:27.440
<v Speaker 1>like Jamatria back into like the Bible and stuff, or

615
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:32.599
<v Speaker 1>like using the Kabbala, which would include that with Catholicism.

616
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.400
<v Speaker 2>That's why this thing is so strange is because he's

617
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:41.840
<v Speaker 2>not giving you all of these background details before throwing

618
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<v Speaker 2>you into the deep end.

619
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<v Speaker 4>That's why me and you even said that in the

620
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:48.039
<v Speaker 4>show that he when it comes to the Jamatria part,

621
00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:50.559
<v Speaker 4>he's speaking to you as if you're already understand that. Unfortunately,

622
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:54.039
<v Speaker 4>it's basically what it seems like, right, you know, or

623
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:55.960
<v Speaker 4>you have an idea of like about it.

624
00:36:57.840 --> 00:36:59.559
<v Speaker 2>And he might have been thrown into the deep end

625
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.000
<v Speaker 2>himself and didn't fully realize it. But by the time

626
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:05.559
<v Speaker 2>he's put onto this code, he's already talking in code.

627
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:10.639
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that could be another thing too, right.

628
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:13.840
<v Speaker 2>So all of this stuff goes way way back in history,

629
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.039
<v Speaker 2>with all of these different footnotes and all of these

630
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:20.280
<v Speaker 2>different essential parts to understand before even getting to why

631
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.639
<v Speaker 2>number is also letter is also word, you have to

632
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>understand the basis and the background for it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that video really does lay out a good example

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<v Speaker 2>of that, which would be fi, which is where you

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<v Speaker 2>find these numbers in the Bible that associate with five,

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<v Speaker 2>because that is God's number. That's what's being imprinted into

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<v Speaker 2>nature and again making that thing that is the reflection

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<v Speaker 2>of nature is like making a thing that is reflective

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<v Speaker 2>of God. So this is this is the Greek sort

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<v Speaker 2>of cosmological concept, is we're co creators with God. We

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<v Speaker 2>exist on the same plane that is being created and

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<v Speaker 2>on the same level of mathematics and you know, architecture

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<v Speaker 2>and all these other principles that come back to number

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<v Speaker 2>and so this is this is where it's coming from, essentially.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really like the fact that he would lay

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<v Speaker 2>it out in such a Greek way, because far too

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<v Speaker 2>often people lay it out in a Hebrew way and

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<v Speaker 2>that's again throwing you in the deep end without giving

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<v Speaker 2>you the explanation behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Really, this was actually really fun. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>good video of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and you know, giving people that background information lets

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<v Speaker 2>them know why it's important and why we're doing this

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<v Speaker 2>today is because now you can use those numbers, you

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<v Speaker 2>can use those sequences in your own formulations as you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing magic yourself. That's the important part of seven seven seven.

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<v Speaker 2>It's for the individual user. You're you're just taking the

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<v Speaker 2>same things that all of these other people created society with,

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<v Speaker 2>created these buildings with, created beauty with, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>can use it yourself. You can make it your own.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why we're doing it, is to allow people

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<v Speaker 2>to use the tools of the elites, because they're not

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<v Speaker 2>really elites. They're all a bunch of dumb asses. They're

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<v Speaker 2>just going by the formula.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. That's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, everybody, Well, thank you for joining us again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thank thank you and Austin conform It for making that

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<v Speaker 2>video so we can content farm your stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Yo, go over to that guy and tell him he's

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<v Speaker 4>got to come on the Occult Rejects anywhere that if

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<v Speaker 4>you happen to follow that guy you're on social media,

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<v Speaker 4>look for him and comment on his shit. Got to

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<v Speaker 4>get him on the show again, he said. He he

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<v Speaker 4>said yes twice publicly, So where the fuck are you

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<v Speaker 4>get them?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait?

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<v Speaker 2>Tag him in there. Let's see if we can get

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<v Speaker 2>him on the show. I think you would really enjoy

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of stuff because he really likes this, this

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<v Speaker 2>sort of topic, and we're more than happy to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>talk talk about it with him. So see you guys

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<v Speaker 2>next time. This has been another seven seven seven
