Speaker 1: Okay, we are alive. How does William Ramsey. Welcome to
Speaker 1: William Ramsey Investigates On today's show, have a very special guest.
Speaker 1: Returning guests, Hans Ucher. If you listen to my show,
Speaker 1: you've listened to some of our earlier talks, and we
Speaker 1: are going to have episode ten today of a talk
Speaker 1: that he started a while back, and the title of
Speaker 1: it is Advanced Soviet Researcher on Cybernetics, biofield energetics and
Speaker 1: Cognitive Restructuring. So I think it's really important. It's interesting
Speaker 1: to talk about Soviet Union, like they're thinking about expanding
Speaker 1: the warrant to Russia. So you don't have too much
Speaker 1: time left before either the world ends World War three
Speaker 1: or the election happens in about sixteen six weeks, which
Speaker 1: could end up being the end of the Republic or
Speaker 1: the official end of the Republic, who knows, But anyway,
Speaker 1: we're gonna kind of just wrap this up. So Hans
Speaker 1: has got a lot to talk about, and thanks a
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Speaker 1: so hands, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2: Oh what a great great to be here. Sorry to
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Speaker 2: hons at our hotmail dot com. Everybody wants to support me,
Speaker 2: just so I can get this infrastructure ready because my
Speaker 2: web guys are being recalcitrant. But we'll figure this out.
Speaker 1: And seems to be a common story actually a lot
Speaker 1: of web So if I've had a lot of web problems,
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Speaker 1: on to five or something and figure it out. But
Speaker 1: where do you want to pick up? I think our
Speaker 1: last point we went through these slides right the eggrecore
Speaker 1: and all. That was our last show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we did. So let me give an overview.
Speaker 2: And I thought I'd just start out with just going
Speaker 2: through my own sort of viewpoint. Some of it intersects
Speaker 2: with this. It's a conception of social safety, is what
Speaker 2: it's called. And just to reiterate, so this is from
Speaker 2: very very high level people in Russia, you know, and
Speaker 2: very practical people, not just people that are you know,
Speaker 2: sitting around cafes or hanging out at Starbucks, you know,
Speaker 2: taking microdosing psychedelics and thinking they're enlightened or something. You know, Hey,
Speaker 2: by the way, there's anybody in Ohio. I'm having a
Speaker 2: cat barbecue. I got.
Speaker 1: How far are you away from Springfield?
Speaker 2: About an hour or two. I play out. I played
Speaker 2: out there four or five times. Man, you know, somebody
Speaker 2: last time I was there, somebody keeyed my car. But
Speaker 2: luckily they put gum. So I have a lecsus. I
Speaker 2: got a brand new paint job. They put gum on it,
Speaker 2: but the gum protected the car. So I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, but it's Springfield, you know, one of those
Speaker 2: It's a small town, right, I mean, it's a beautiful
Speaker 2: old city, but it's I mean, fifty eight twenty thousand
Speaker 2: people crazy there. It's insane. And now they're like, I
Speaker 2: mean I've been seeing the military, like the you know,
Speaker 2: troop transport helicopters flying over. I don't know what's going
Speaker 2: on in Ohio, but they're so instead of removing the migrants, right,
Speaker 2: the Haitian so there was you know, they had the
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they're they're trying to say it's fake.
Speaker 2: It's not. I mean, it's actually happening. But that's what
Speaker 2: they do in Haiti. Dude, I mean, when I was
Speaker 2: in India at University of Delhi, there's a they're called
Speaker 2: the Nagas right there particular. Not I mean, there's not
Speaker 2: like the Reptilian serpent people, but it's a it's a
Speaker 2: tribe in northeast India and they're you know, they go
Speaker 2: to college or whatever. But they love dogs. So there
Speaker 2: was a wild man. These dudes were literally hunting dogs.
Speaker 2: You know, they have like their you know bow and
Speaker 2: arrow they hook. They go like over people's like walled
Speaker 2: courtyard and take their dog and they're roasting the dogs
Speaker 2: on the top of the dorm. So that that's just
Speaker 2: a cultural thing from the Nagas.
Speaker 1: I think. I think the killing of the cats, they
Speaker 1: do it not just for food. It's a ritual thing.
Speaker 2: It's cia It's a centarea thing, big time.
Speaker 1: No, it's even worse. Yeah, nighttime at Springfield you should
Speaker 1: be pretty freaking nervous if you're an animal or human being.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. Well, cats are you know known for you know,
Speaker 2: being like witches familiars, also being able to I mean
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I believe it or not, but
Speaker 2: even be able to project psychic essence into it. So
Speaker 2: you sacrifice the cat. You know, you're doing something to
Speaker 2: the person or the collective people, so you know, who
Speaker 2: knows what's going on. It's just a little bit of
Speaker 2: fun here in Ohio.
Speaker 1: And I mean there are people who are in who've
Speaker 1: been to Nehiti this year who say that that night
Speaker 1: the witch doctors come out and they practice voodoo and
Speaker 1: do all kinds of stuff. They can hear the drums
Speaker 1: like it's still a practice. Like it's not like something
Speaker 1: from the nineteenth century. It's not a joke. So you
Speaker 1: have to assume that some of those twenty thousand people
Speaker 1: aren't exactly like a church going Christians.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well there's some There's a guy which I
Speaker 2: this guy has such a big heart. He's like his
Speaker 2: son got so this this guy, a legal immigrant, you know,
Speaker 2: Haitian guy ran you know, ran into the school bus
Speaker 2: and killed his son and injured a bunch of other kids.
Speaker 2: And then the guy he says it, well, I wish
Speaker 2: he was white because it's racist and he's a black guy.
Speaker 1: Did it?
Speaker 2: An immigrant did it? So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: Indoctrination, yeah, yeah, cognitive restructuring. Yeah, they can't drive. They're
Speaker 1: not from a driving culture with a lot of cars.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyways, there's enough video of those car crashes out there
Speaker 1: to confirm that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And well, you know, I was one last little
Speaker 2: aside here before I dive in, but just because I
Speaker 2: was wondering, like, you know, who's voting for Harris Well,
Speaker 2: I can realize that almost all my neighbors are voting
Speaker 2: for Harris Man.
Speaker 3: There's like signs everywhere everywhere, up and down the street.
Speaker 3: It's like, and there's like every single one Medam President,
Speaker 3: the pink one. It's like, I mean, I haven't every
Speaker 3: single like at least for like four or five square
Speaker 3: miles all Harris Man.
Speaker 2: So wow, So at least I know who's voting for
Speaker 2: at least they're here in the in the North Columbus.
Speaker 1: Good luck, good luck with everything, good luck with the
Speaker 1: election and the future of the country and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: So well, I'm going to be in Turkey at the
Speaker 2: end of October, so hopefully World War three doesn't happen
Speaker 2: while I'm in Turkey, and uh, you know, i'll miss
Speaker 2: the election. I'll vote in events. But anyways, so but so,
Speaker 2: you know, so before we dive in, I just wanted to,
Speaker 2: as I was telling the William I already said, but
Speaker 2: this is incredibly dense and complex material. It is, it
Speaker 2: has its own language, it's it's coming from a very
Speaker 2: high level of mathematics, computer science, philosophy, economics, history, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of uh stuff in there, but
Speaker 2: it is it is an extremely coherent system and it's
Speaker 2: not abstract. It's absolutely applicable, you know, to the individual
Speaker 2: and the entire world. Right. So, and one thing they
Speaker 2: discuss is this, uh, well, probably will get into this,
Speaker 2: but the importance of history and how history politics. I
Speaker 2: think I worked on this cart Let me see here,
Speaker 2: uh politics the where are we? Okay? History? Hit? Okay?
Speaker 2: Politics is applied history. So history is an understanding of
Speaker 2: what was before. It's a collective stir of humanity and
Speaker 2: what will unfold. Right, So politics is applied history. The
Speaker 2: control of history is the control of politics and ultimately
Speaker 2: the control of the mind. And so we'll maybe get
Speaker 2: into this a bit about this crowd elite society and
Speaker 2: the crowd elite society is you know, we are you know,
Speaker 2: the massive humanity is literally a crowd. Right. This ties
Speaker 2: into you have collective collective mental pattern conditioning. You you know,
Speaker 2: look at the w F. This is completely looking at humanity.
Speaker 2: It's a big block, right, It's a black is they
Speaker 2: a black the black cube or whatever I mean, the
Speaker 2: you know, the black box. You don't need to know
Speaker 2: what's going on inside. You just need to know how
Speaker 2: to manipulate it and get the result you want. Right.
Speaker 2: But so the crowd of lead society is also very important.
Speaker 2: But this is what distinguishes is a conceptual power. So
Speaker 2: according to this system, the conceptual power is what frames everything.
Speaker 2: This is what gives uh, you know, rise to the
Speaker 2: This is the the basis of the conceptual sort of
Speaker 2: mis misdirection of the massive humanity is the foundational aspect
Speaker 2: of that. And so anyways, so this, you know, one
Speaker 2: last thing on the before I go into my own
Speaker 2: spiel here is that you know, they talk about this
Speaker 2: matter information and measure, So they don't talk about space
Speaker 2: and time. They talk they go they go back to
Speaker 2: Egyptian for the time of Egypt. Right. So Egypt was
Speaker 2: a it was a society that was a strip. Right,
Speaker 2: everything is along the riverbank, okay, right, so it's there,
Speaker 2: and so they were able to establish this type of
Speaker 2: control he's describing coming from the priest craft, but also
Speaker 2: from this level of understanding that you could literally control
Speaker 2: the entire society. And one of these distortions is the
Speaker 2: concept of space and time, which actually these are empty categories.
Speaker 2: They're only relational, right. Time only exists in duration between events.
Speaker 2: It's I mean it, so this is extremely complex. But
Speaker 2: matter is you know, all all physically existing matter, and
Speaker 2: they also include energetic matter, right, so this is still
Speaker 2: an existing entity. Information and then measure. Measure is the
Speaker 2: understanding of any particular entity or collection of entities within
Speaker 2: the matrix of all possible states that can unfold, as
Speaker 2: well as the sort of the framing interrelationality, et cetera.
Speaker 2: It's very deep. We'll just leave it there. It's based
Speaker 2: on like algorithms, et cetera. But it's you know, it's
Speaker 2: quite interesting. I'll get a little bit more into their
Speaker 2: conception of history here, but it's you know, again, so
Speaker 2: you know they're coming from one of the most controlled
Speaker 2: societies on Earth, right, and we all know what happened
Speaker 2: when this developed. You know, you had Larry Summers flying
Speaker 2: over there, absolute devastation. Right now, look at Russia today, right,
Speaker 2: it's doing pretty good. And supposedly they had given that
Speaker 2: there was a book I think it's called Dark Water,
Speaker 2: and it was the first when they put this group
Speaker 2: together and came up with this document, this book. They
Speaker 2: gave it to putin and all the top things supposedly
Speaker 2: putin read it. Then shortly after that the book was
Speaker 2: banned in Russia. Wow, that was banned. Yeah, totally banned.
Speaker 2: So but it's you know, when I chanced across this
Speaker 2: primarily just for looking at Eggrigor's because I said, I
Speaker 2: heard people talking about it, and it's just like it
Speaker 2: just seems something was missing in this whole conceptual framing
Speaker 2: of it of it right, So anything you want to say,
Speaker 2: William for it no, please continue? Okay, great, Well, so
Speaker 2: I just thought, uh, whatever, I took a bunch of notes.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going analog. I'm doing a lot of stuff
Speaker 2: on paper now. After two computer crashes, having to shell
Speaker 2: out for a new Mac. Wow, a lot of money.
Speaker 1: There, money and heartache. There's nothing like computer grief. They
Speaker 1: have to come up with some kind of like long
Speaker 1: German philosophical word for like felt in chow or something
Speaker 1: like that, because it's just it just causes so much pain,
Speaker 1: like especially if you lose information or something.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I had my logic board mess up, so
Speaker 2: I wasn't an able to back up the computer, and
Speaker 2: I just moved all my books on there and everything
Speaker 2: was like, dude, I don't want to I mean that's
Speaker 2: like I'm you know whatever. But that being said, I'm
Speaker 2: all good now.
Speaker 1: So I just paid that what ten bucks a month
Speaker 1: just to have Apple who I don't want to have
Speaker 1: my information, but just to have an extra backup because
Speaker 1: I'm so paranoid, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well it's I mean, you don't know, and
Speaker 2: the thing is that you want to have multiple backups
Speaker 2: and always hard copies too, because we don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: And I do believe there it could have just been
Speaker 2: the logic board. It could have been some you know,
Speaker 2: other viruses. I got some like you know, threatening ransomware
Speaker 2: we will shut your computers down that I found in
Speaker 2: my spam and well it happened. But but anyway, since
Speaker 2: I'm totally clean, like there's there is nothing on me
Speaker 2: because it's just you know what I mean, I'm there's
Speaker 2: not a I'm you know, it's it's a good way
Speaker 2: to live. But anyways, so that'll go into here. I
Speaker 2: wanted just to go over my viewpoint. And I just
Speaker 2: started writing down some notes and then we'll dive into
Speaker 2: the the Russian view thing. But you know, I, you know,
Speaker 2: I talk a lot about all these different types of
Speaker 2: mind control and all these you know, cognitive warfare, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera. But you know, how do I approach life?
Speaker 2: And then what I what I think you know to
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think that ignorance is a solution, right.
Speaker 2: You pretend something is not happening. It's not going to
Speaker 2: go away, you know. Like so so I'll just read
Speaker 2: these points, okay, spontaneous. So one is life is simple
Speaker 2: and easy? Okay, is it? Well, it means it. Ultimately
Speaker 2: things are simple and things misdirected effort right, so easy
Speaker 2: you can put in a lot of a lot of energy,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't mean you're putting in a lot of effort. Right.
Speaker 2: So this idea of you know, going for simplicity and
Speaker 2: ease other things. You know, every day learn grow, do
Speaker 2: better and if you do something something is very working
Speaker 2: well in your life, then spread it out, optimize it.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's a continual process. As soon as
Speaker 2: you stop growing, you're gonna you're gonna stagnate, right, so
Speaker 2: this is an important thing. Keep learning and then never
Speaker 2: fear suffering. I had a quote from Nietzsche about how like,
Speaker 2: you know, embracing suffering, enjoying it the worst. There's nothing
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, be absolutely fearless in suffering
Speaker 2: or even though because then ultimately not necessarily. I don't
Speaker 2: embrace necessarily this sort of tragic view of life like
Speaker 2: Nietsche does. But that being said, you know what was
Speaker 2: Covid about people are afraid of some potential suffering, and
Speaker 2: then they got some real suffering right after, you know,
Speaker 2: they got some real suffering. So don't you know, avoid things.
Speaker 2: Oh it's really difficult for me to fix this in
Speaker 2: my life. It's gonna I'll have to struggle. Well, all right,
Speaker 2: do you want to keep doing the same thing. Don't
Speaker 2: be afraid of it? Right? Okay, don't always trust I sorry,
Speaker 2: I just this is almost like a chicken soup for
Speaker 2: the soul. I just realized that that's so. But don't
Speaker 2: always trust the science. Right. Science does not mean right.
Speaker 2: We think science is the end all beal. How many
Speaker 2: things keep changing in science? Oh it's this all the time.
Speaker 2: This thing diet, eat this, don't eat this, do this?
Speaker 2: Don't you know what I mean? And do they have
Speaker 2: all the answers? No way, you know, we we are these,
Speaker 2: We are what. You don't need someone outside of you
Speaker 2: to tell you if you've become clear in your own
Speaker 2: mind right, or you're clear in your perception. So a
Speaker 2: lot of things are misguided or even they're subtly misguided.
Speaker 2: You see this a lot in self help stuff. You
Speaker 2: see this a lot in religious you know, even like
Speaker 2: say Judo Christian Murdy, right, or there's this guy Ugi
Speaker 2: Christian Murdy who's both connected with the Theophilosophical Society, Ugi
Speaker 2: Christian Murty. Total nihilist thought is your enemy. Mine is
Speaker 2: a myth, hardcore stuff, you know. I mean, I think
Speaker 2: some of that stuff effect. I got that stuff when
Speaker 2: I was quite young. I think it affected me. But anyways,
Speaker 2: so don't necessarily trust authorities over your own experience. But
Speaker 2: also know what you know and what you don't now, okay,
Speaker 2: and it be clear about what is real, right, What
Speaker 2: is actually real is what you are doing right now.
Speaker 2: This is real. You know, this is reality, what you're
Speaker 2: experiencing right now. You can think about the past, can
Speaker 2: think about the future. You know, I'm not saying don't plan,
Speaker 2: but ultimately these are these are conceptual constructs, right, the
Speaker 2: past and the future. I'm not saying just live in
Speaker 2: the present, but go try to experience what is real.
Speaker 2: Right when you're in a situation, if you get emotionally reactive,
Speaker 2: you are now outside of your own You no longer
Speaker 2: have agency, you can no longer direct your will or
Speaker 2: your actions. Right, So it's very important to be able
Speaker 2: to ste the past. In the future exists as potentiality,
Speaker 2: not ground. These are potentials, right, What you do now
Speaker 2: will create your future. How many people you know they're anxiety?
Speaker 2: What is that you're projected in the future, right, So
Speaker 2: so many of our disorders. And maybe I brought this
Speaker 2: up because I went to the doctor recently and then
Speaker 2: I had to go like huge survey like anxiety depression.
Speaker 2: So as now I feel, I feel, I'm gonna swear
Speaker 2: I feel fucking great. You know, I don't, you know what,
Speaker 2: but obviously a lot of people don't. A lot of
Speaker 2: people are really caught up in this stuff. So break
Speaker 2: free from that, you know what I mean? Immediate action,
Speaker 2: direct sensation act Now, if you have it's important you
Speaker 2: do it and then really be clear on what you're
Speaker 2: actually experiencing with your clear your sensory channels. Right, have
Speaker 2: very clear sensory channels, be able to and this ties
Speaker 2: into the Eggerworth and too right you have. We can
Speaker 2: have distorted perceptions. We most people have these very distorted
Speaker 2: perceptions and they're completely stuck in the sort of bubble,
Speaker 2: their ego bubble. Oh, I can't change that because I'll
Speaker 2: just dissolve, I'll fall apart. Right, So very important. This
Speaker 2: takes time, but you can do it. Right, I'll just
Speaker 2: finish the first page here. You use your your mind.
Speaker 2: Use your mind to direct attention. Direct your attention to
Speaker 2: what's clear and immediate, what's useful. Be able to use
Speaker 2: your mind optimize what you're thinking about, not thinking about
Speaker 2: right a thought. If you're worried about something that's not real, Right,
Speaker 2: that's that's a thought construct, that's some hormonal responses. It
Speaker 2: may seem real, it may be all encompassing, it's not.
Speaker 2: It's a state you're experiencing. So redirect your attention. You know,
Speaker 2: that's you know what I mean? Like people are so
Speaker 2: caught up in this endless parade of you know, there's
Speaker 2: you can always worry about something, man, there's no end
Speaker 2: to it, don't you know? And worrying stress are absolutely unnecessary.
Speaker 2: They are absolutely unnecessary, even trauma, right, I think this
Speaker 2: whole thing with trauma. So people get stuck, Oh, I
Speaker 2: have this trauma, I have a trauma. I have a
Speaker 2: childhood trauma. I have. I'm not saying people don't, but
Speaker 2: what are you doing? You're solidifying that. And in fact,
Speaker 2: this is based on a gestalt perspective where you have
Speaker 2: to go into the pain, go all the way through
Speaker 2: the pain, understand why you feel it. No, you don't
Speaker 2: have to. You can expand yourself and it will dissolve
Speaker 2: by itself. So don't get caught up in narratives, don't
Speaker 2: you know? And then uh, you know, sorrow, sadness, pain,
Speaker 2: I mean whatever, these things are defied. Don't be afraid
Speaker 2: of these experiences. Right. How many people are depressed because
Speaker 2: they're afraid to experience grief? Right, You're depressed because you're
Speaker 2: not able to really feel the emotion. So that's very important.
Speaker 2: And then depression is easily dissolved by by removing the
Speaker 2: narrative and clearly recognizing the states that you're in right,
Speaker 2: recognize how are you feeling? What are you doing at
Speaker 2: this moment. Once you have that narrative, it's it's really
Speaker 2: this is the control of the media, the control of
Speaker 2: the cognitive, perceptual apparatus of are of much of humanity.
Speaker 2: Is that you. This is you could say it's you.
Speaker 2: You go into a narrative. The narrative is much more narrative.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll go back in the history. We'll see.
Speaker 2: Narrative is it's the past, it's the it's the future.
Speaker 2: It's makes sense of everything around you. It's how things
Speaker 2: are ordered. It's what you can do and what you
Speaker 2: can't do. It's it's a definition, but it's also a
Speaker 2: sort of a flowing definition, right. It frames what's possible
Speaker 2: or not possible. So how many people, and please chime
Speaker 2: in anytime.
Speaker 1: I'm just no, it's interesting. I mean, it's these are
Speaker 1: interesting points. So a lot of people don't realize these
Speaker 1: states that they're in and how they get themselves into them.
Speaker 1: And they say that depression is like based on somebody
Speaker 1: just ruminating all the time inside their brain. So the
Speaker 1: best thing to do is go for a walk or
Speaker 1: just get outside of yourself and move around you know.
Speaker 2: So well that here's that. Well, I'll get this is
Speaker 2: one thing. I'm my again, this is just my own stuff.
Speaker 2: But like beta, I think also these brain wave states, right,
Speaker 2: so beta brain waves is supposed to be your awakened
Speaker 2: you know, you're basically your awakened alert present consciousness, right
Speaker 2: this many people it's project did inside, so you get
Speaker 2: all these things. And even like people are ruminating, there's
Speaker 2: so many layers of thought they don't even have that
Speaker 2: they don't even know they're thinking that they cannot differentiate it.
Speaker 2: And then the alpha state is projected outwards, so you're
Speaker 2: almost living in sort of a dream bubble in the world.
Speaker 2: And then you're completely in your own projective states. And
Speaker 2: a lot of the types of thought structures or emotions
Speaker 2: people have problems with are just based on if you're
Speaker 2: operating in a high beta and you're going inside your
Speaker 2: own head, you're going to have stress, anxiety, fear, depression
Speaker 2: and whatever. So learn to understand your states and learn
Speaker 2: how to operate your being. Right, But obviously you know
Speaker 2: it's okay anyways, and anger, so anger, you know, I
Speaker 2: for sure my handwriting was better, But I mean, if
Speaker 2: you are actually angry, use it to give you clear awareness, right,
Speaker 2: this is you're under a threat or there's something that
Speaker 2: must be done, but don't get controlled by it, you know.
Speaker 2: But and then most situations you don't need to get angry. Right.
Speaker 2: The more you get angry, the more of a habit
Speaker 2: it becomes. And so people, you know, you know, these
Speaker 2: become poisons, right instead of it's like the stress hormone.
Speaker 2: If you're experiencing a direct threat and you act on it,
Speaker 2: you know, whatever, then you don't have stress, because that's
Speaker 2: what it's for. It's not for running your you know,
Speaker 2: burning out your adrenal glands over unnecessary things and defending
Speaker 2: some idea of yourself. That's that's actually a social construct, right,
Speaker 2: you know, people like what is what is transgender? It
Speaker 2: is a social construct, you know, lack of embodied presence,
Speaker 2: you know, So going to that and then let's see
Speaker 2: as much as possible, remain calm, relaxed, happy, appreciate your life.
Speaker 2: Lower your you know, dopamine, that's our reward thing. Lower
Speaker 2: your threshold. Just be happy. All my dogs smiling, you know,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, don't you don't have
Speaker 2: to win the lottery, you don't have to like you know,
Speaker 2: you know, do you know an eight ball of cocaine
Speaker 2: to feel happy? You probably won't be happy, right, But
Speaker 2: that's and you know, before I dive into this CSS,
Speaker 2: so so like you know this, but even happiness is natural, right,
Speaker 2: you don't if as long as you're not you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you people are defied. You don't need to
Speaker 2: run after anything. Make your own life directly clear, you know,
Speaker 2: to me at least, it's like, you know, live a
Speaker 2: moral life. It's much easier, be honest, it's much easier.
Speaker 2: Be kind, it's much easier. Don't hold on forgive, because
Speaker 2: what does it do if you're going to carry some
Speaker 2: I mean, I know so many people this person did
Speaker 2: that to me. Ten years later, they're still saying the
Speaker 2: same thing. They're stagnant in their lives. They're going nowhere, right,
Speaker 2: you know. So anyways, the only reason I kind of
Speaker 2: you know, well, not the only reason. But I have
Speaker 2: several more pages of this, but we'll shift to the
Speaker 2: CSS conception of social safety. But a lot of these
Speaker 2: these really described as lower types of human emotions, lower
Speaker 2: types of responses, are also socially conditioned. We can go
Speaker 2: back to rock and roll, extracting the teenager right as
Speaker 2: a separate category, and then giving them music that distorts
Speaker 2: the nervous system right creates all this kind of adrenaline,
Speaker 2: creates all these heightened states. But these heightened states, you
Speaker 2: don't learn emotional regulation, you don't learn maturity. A lot
Speaker 2: of people never get out of being a teenager right adolescent.
Speaker 2: And if you look at you know, people, whether they're CEOs,
Speaker 2: whether they're characters on Netflix series, whether they're you know,
Speaker 2: reality television is a great example. You see this really
Speaker 2: extremely This is not the way to live your life.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You don't, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: I see all these shows too. People just have these
Speaker 2: like freakouts, you know what I mean, Like just the
Speaker 2: actors they're promoting this, you're watching that, You're if you
Speaker 2: haven't integrated yourself, you're gonna mirror that and you're gonna
Speaker 2: identify with that person freaking out. Oh it's cool. I
Speaker 2: need to freak out. I need to get angry.
Speaker 1: Right right, you start emulating that, no question?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, great. So So anyways, let's so let's the
Speaker 2: slide here and I'm gonna play a little video. So
Speaker 2: the egg Grigor. Well, you know what, let's I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go throw this video on here this uh this general guy.
Speaker 2: And then so I think I can just share the video.
Speaker 1: Right, you can either email it to me or you
Speaker 1: can just try to upload it. I hope that it'll
Speaker 1: play with the sound.
Speaker 4: Share screen, share screen. Let me just click on this
Speaker 4: screen and there's a video. Okay, I think I got
Speaker 4: to drag it into the browser. Let me.
Speaker 2: I think that's I did this before.
Speaker 1: I think you do present and then you hit video file.
Speaker 1: You can just bring up the video file at least
Speaker 1: from my end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I just my browser. So here we go.
Speaker 2: So we'll just go ahead and watch maybe five ten
Speaker 2: minutes of this and this will I'll try to break
Speaker 2: this down a bit. So this is again talking about
Speaker 2: the Aggregor and they have this concept of eggregore oil
Speaker 2: matrix governance and you know, so not all I mean
Speaker 2: looking at these psychic energy, psychic forces, collective you know things,
Speaker 2: and we can this is a lot of what's going
Speaker 2: on to us here in the West, you know. So
Speaker 2: here we go people.
Speaker 5: With day's lecture, we will look at what Gregors are
Speaker 5: and how dozens, hundreds, thousands, and even millions of people
Speaker 5: have been governed with the help of gregors for a
Speaker 5: long time. Speaking of the origin of the word at gregor,
Speaker 5: there are several variants.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll just say thh. So governance, right, this is
Speaker 2: the this is the you know, command and control either you,
Speaker 2: your internal self or the society. Right, so the governance
Speaker 2: can actually entail full control. Right, and we have the
Speaker 2: human use of human beings by normal wien Er. I've
Speaker 2: got some quotes on that. But you know they're talking
Speaker 2: about again this whole thing of like everything from every
Speaker 2: individual you know, neurotransmitter and an individual to large scale
Speaker 2: social structures, economic structures. They want to have total governance
Speaker 2: of this. Okay, but egregres means you're being governed by
Speaker 2: a non physical, energetic, or psychic informational form. So just
Speaker 2: play this here, friends.
Speaker 5: From the word aggregate, which means the connection into one
Speaker 5: whole of dissimilar or homogeneous parts, the French word is
Speaker 5: a greg a gret, which means a feather or a
Speaker 5: bunch of feathers taken up that add on a woman's
Speaker 5: headdress or hairstyle. What's more, the word a gregor has
Speaker 5: become the property of all kinds of accult titchens, all
Speaker 5: sorts of claire vorants use it. But we will look
Speaker 5: at a Gregor's from the standpoint of the conception of
Speaker 5: social safety, and here all that informational, philosophical, ideological arsenal
Speaker 5: with which we have already familiarized ourselves will come in handy.
Speaker 5: What are the key concepts that should be kept in
Speaker 5: mind during the entire lecture when considering a Greggor's. I'll
Speaker 5: be reminding you of them, But in general these concepts
Speaker 5: are The first is the foundation of the conception of
Speaker 5: social safety, the trinity of MIIM worldview, matter, information, measure.
Speaker 5: In addition, the passing of information is always a process
Speaker 5: of governance. Second, you should remember the fundamental concepts of
Speaker 5: the sufficiently general theory of governance. The vector of goals,
Speaker 5: the vector of current state, the vector of error as
Speaker 5: cycled in closed circuit system, an object of governance, a
Speaker 5: subject of governance, feed forward and feedback lines, stability in
Speaker 5: terms of predictability, structural and structuralist methods of governance, the
Speaker 5: entire function of governance, and so on. All these must
Speaker 5: be kept in mind mind when considering a Greggor's. Otherwise
Speaker 5: you may find a Gregor's a kind of abstraction which
Speaker 5: is used by all sorts of accult teachings to obscure
Speaker 5: this word and concept, but they do not give us
Speaker 5: a clear precise definition of what this word is actually
Speaker 5: vascid with and how all kinds of aggreggors specifically work
Speaker 5: in our daily life every day. However, this word has
Speaker 5: to be endowed with a clear measure of understanding. Third,
Speaker 5: these are the processes that take place in supersystems. What
Speaker 5: a supersystem is in general, what a supersystem consists of,
Speaker 5: what kind of elements are included in a supersystem, what
Speaker 5: characteristics the elements of a supersystem have, and so on. One
Speaker 5: must understand all these things, and then it becomes obvious
Speaker 5: that a gregors are no miracles at all. I think
Speaker 5: will be in its place in one's head, and we
Speaker 5: will deal with the topic of a Gregor's Sequentially. We
Speaker 5: already know that there is creation. All processes in creation
Speaker 5: are of an oscilatory nature. Man is a fragment of creation.
Speaker 5: He also emits vibrations oscillations through his biofilds, and these
Speaker 5: oscilatory processes are in doubt with some measure. Remember we
Speaker 5: said that there is a carry frequency and there is modulation.
Speaker 5: These are algorithms for processing incoming information or a person's
Speaker 5: way of thinking, his worldview, world understanding. So a person
Speaker 5: emits biofelds. Oscillations are always a process of the trinity
Speaker 5: of m im matter, information measure. Through his biofilds, a
Speaker 5: person perceives everything at once. The sense of measure is
Speaker 5: a sense like all other human senses side hearing, smell, touch,
Speaker 5: and taste, and each sense perceives a certain spectrum of frequencies.
Speaker 5: Human eyes perceive a certain frequency spectrum. Human ears perceive
Speaker 5: their own sound frequency range. We do not hear ultrasounds
Speaker 5: or infrasounds, and so on. But also a person has
Speaker 5: the sense of measure, which has its own frequency range,
Speaker 5: and through the sense of measure, a person perceives all
Speaker 5: oscilutory processes.
Speaker 1: Once.
Speaker 5: I have the following experience. I was sitting on a
Speaker 5: stump in the forest after picking mushrooms. All of a sudden,
Speaker 5: a chill went down my back. I didn't hear anything,
Speaker 5: I didn't see anything, but when I looked around, I
Speaker 5: saw a viper crawling in my direction. Another case which
Speaker 5: many find a miracle. A woman from the Moscow region
Speaker 5: had a son who was drafted to serve in the
Speaker 5: Pacific Fleet. Once she was preparing dinner at home, and
Speaker 5: suddenly she felt that something had happened to her son.
Speaker 5: She felt bad. Later it was confirmed that at that
Speaker 5: very moment a misfortune had happened with her son. It
Speaker 5: should be noted that this case has nothing mystical. The
Speaker 5: mother was worried about her son and tuned into the
Speaker 5: corresponding wave of oscillations. And since the material carriers of
Speaker 5: the mother and the son are almost the same, when
Speaker 5: the son really had a misfortune, the mother perceived this
Speaker 5: wave of misfortune. The biocary of man's soul in creation
Speaker 5: is the substance of his biomass and natural physical fields
Speaker 5: emitted by his biomass in the process of his life.
Speaker 5: But we do not know the entire plurality of fields.
Speaker 5: We know that as sensitivity, a resolution, and ability of
Speaker 5: descendment and recognition by the human organism, that is, the
Speaker 5: biogenic perception of the world is higher than that of
Speaker 5: the means of scientific technological perception of the world. Here
Speaker 5: is an example. We know that outer space is studied
Speaker 5: and satellites attract an aerial perceives some signal that comes
Speaker 5: to it, and this is reflected on devices by the
Speaker 5: deviation of the error. What is the technological base of science? Like,
Speaker 5: there are sensors that perceive some processes. For example, a
Speaker 5: satellite is in orbit. Different sensors detect pressure, temperature, battery voltage, etc.
Speaker 5: The signal from the sensor is amplified, undergoes various transformation.
Speaker 5: In particular, it is converted into a digital form. Then
Speaker 5: the signal is processed on the on board computer. Then
Speaker 5: it is converted again and ultimately goes to the register.
Speaker 5: And as scientist explores, the signals send to a punch tape,
Speaker 5: or to an alpha numeric printing device, or to a computer.
Speaker 5: This is how the technological perception of oscillatory processes flowing
Speaker 5: in the surrounding world takes place.
Speaker 2: So just go through this. So this is very important
Speaker 2: right to understand, say like the real economic forum, catchulor society,
Speaker 2: all these processes are required for the technological you know intersection.
Speaker 2: So every single technological uh, you know, information gathering process
Speaker 2: follows this. I'll just keep going just a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, Yeah, I'm just listening.
Speaker 5: Aforementioned everything goes according to the following algorithm sensor, amplifier, converter,
Speaker 5: computer processing, converter, register, man sensitivity, resolution, ability of discernment,
Speaker 5: and recognition. That is, biogenic perception of the world is
Speaker 5: much higher than the technological base of science. Thus, the
Speaker 5: organism as a whole and its elemental base cells possess
Speaker 5: a more subtle structure, a more complex organization than the
Speaker 5: technological base of science. Unlike devices, the hierarchy of the
Speaker 5: structures of a living person is complete and continuous from
Speaker 5: the physical vacuum in which physical fails pass along through
Speaker 5: atoms and chemical compounds specific cells that form body, tissues
Speaker 5: and organ systems, up to man himself and society as
Speaker 5: a whole. In other words, every kind of matter and
Speaker 5: aggregate states of matter are present in man and many
Speaker 5: natural fields. Frequency ranges, direction of polarization of fields, code
Speaker 5: systems objectively existing in creation are in principle close for
Speaker 5: technological perception due to in completeness of the hierarchy of
Speaker 5: structures of technical means low sensitivity of sensors, law resolution,
Speaker 5: low ability of discernment and recognition. That is, due to
Speaker 5: the crudeness of technical means of converting information, distarting and
Speaker 5: losing it in that transition from one material carrier to another. Why,
Speaker 5: by the way, has science not yet recognize the existence
Speaker 5: of biofelds since the so called Krelen effect is only
Speaker 5: now being discovered. The Kerelen spouse is discovered according to
Speaker 5: indirect data. The glow of the hand, that is, the
Speaker 5: human bifield has been discovered relatively recently. Moreover, the biofield
Speaker 5: is not detected directly, but indirectly by the effect of
Speaker 5: the biofeld on the ions that exists in the atmosphere.
Speaker 5: So the biofeld was determined by the glow of these
Speaker 5: ions thanks to the photographs that were taken. But it
Speaker 5: was impossible to take those photographs before because the technology
Speaker 5: of science was and is still much weaker than many
Speaker 5: natural fields. For this reason, the entire scientific world believes
Speaker 5: that there are no biofelds. Our entire culture does not
Speaker 5: teach our children to consciously add according to the life
Speaker 5: consistent reason govern their own sensitivity, resolution, ability of discernment,
Speaker 5: and recognition. In addition, culture does not teach children to
Speaker 5: distinguish between different cultures of world perception and thinking and
Speaker 5: cultivating themselves a certain culture of thinking and a discipline
Speaker 5: of internal and external behavior. But some teach this. It
Speaker 5: becomes obvious if you stretch the threat back to the
Speaker 5: ancient Egyptian dresses, to shamans. However, such knowledge is not
Speaker 5: given to ordinary people.
Speaker 2: So this is Russian web, the ancient Egyptian dratzy. So
Speaker 2: they're talking about this whole system of control removing this
Speaker 2: knowledge and awareness from mankind starts in Egypt. Now, I
Speaker 2: was just reading something about you know, the Freemasonry Albert,
Speaker 2: you know, talking about going back to Egypt like this.
Speaker 2: Egypt is very very important for this, right, and so
Speaker 2: we won't go into depth on this.
Speaker 6: But it's just quite a fascinating but he does say
Speaker 6: that he can only exist in the realm of the shamans, right,
Speaker 6: So it's almost like you got to take it away
Speaker 6: from the population and conceal it within selective groups, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's why. See, you know, people go you know,
Speaker 2: they go skydiving, they go whitewater rafting, they take you know, psychedelics,
Speaker 2: they do this. That why because they want to have
Speaker 2: some kind of a state they feel alive. Well, what
Speaker 2: if you don't need I mean nothing wrong with what
Speaker 2: you know doing you know, sort of high adrenaline, you know,
Speaker 2: bungee jumping. I'm never, never going to do that. But
Speaker 2: stuff like that, you know, because you're just getting a
Speaker 2: nervous system simulation, or you're taking a drug and all
Speaker 2: you know, I took you know, LSD or smoking d MT,
Speaker 2: and wow, I just saw all these visions. Well, these
Speaker 2: are just taking place in your own head. You're going
Speaker 2: to go back to your day to day life as
Speaker 2: it is. You haven't really expanded your consciousness at all,
Speaker 2: and you very potentially could have damaged your consciousness or
Speaker 2: your mind or your body. So you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of these things with are You don't need these externalities
Speaker 2: and they're already present in us. We're just but it's
Speaker 2: been obscured and and so.
Speaker 1: That's intentionally right for control. It's taken away. And I
Speaker 1: think that that's the whole thing about Darwinism and these
Speaker 1: Marxist views is that there's nothing special about you. You're
Speaker 1: just a big lump and those external you know, ideas
Speaker 1: that are beyond your perception, they don't exist. Right, even
Speaker 1: though they're saying in this document that they do right,
Speaker 1: that there's things that just because of inability to perceive
Speaker 1: or things like that, they don't see it as consciously, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the thing is in that conscious state of that word.
Speaker 2: But but the thing is that you can learn to
Speaker 2: perceive these things, right, And you know what he was
Speaker 2: saying in the beginning, So it will go go on here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so we'll just continue a bit more. But it's you know,
Speaker 2: like I said, and this is just I mean, this
Speaker 2: is like a vast field.
Speaker 1: So if that's the restructuring, it's the restructuring against No.
Speaker 1: I mean, I won't go as far as saying divinity,
Speaker 1: but the latent, multifaceted powers maybe beyond the five senses
Speaker 1: that human beings do have, that's the war. That's what
Speaker 1: That's where the war takes places, making sure you don't
Speaker 1: think you have them.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And this is how these aggregorial forms function
Speaker 2: and work because people don't even think they're there or
Speaker 2: they're just they're obscured or mystified. Right, So just play
Speaker 2: a little bit more here.
Speaker 5: So moreover, these abilities can be independently cultivated if a
Speaker 5: person truly works on himself. So in society, technology takes
Speaker 5: domination over an ignorant or a pervertedly educated person. Instead
Speaker 5: of developing the genetically determined potential, revealing opening the intellectual
Speaker 5: and creative potential, a person is turned into a mindless
Speaker 5: zombie by a robot, and artificial intelligence instead is created
Speaker 5: many processes of energetic informational exchange between every person and
Speaker 5: creation objectively flaw beyond direct conscious perception by people outside
Speaker 5: of the technological perception base of science, but the objective
Speaker 5: non existence of something and the impossibility of perceiving it
Speaker 5: directly or indirectly on other same things, they are different things.
Speaker 2: So that's very important, that last thing there. So I
Speaker 2: don't know if you want to say anything when.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying that it's fascinating that they're saying
Speaker 1: this from that perspective, right from the Russian perspective and.
Speaker 2: From you know, height of technology. This guy, the general
Speaker 2: guy who's talking, I mean, he ran you know, he
Speaker 2: has like four pH ds in mathematics and physics and
Speaker 2: he was running the entire Russian you know, space program
Speaker 2: satellites and stuff like that. I mean, so he's he's
Speaker 2: not just some you know, hippie dude hanging out at.
Speaker 1: He just came out of the Ashram or something you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're actually not. And that's one of the things
Speaker 2: that you see and that uh, now what's his name
Speaker 2: that the you know, the he was that everyone's seen
Speaker 2: his videos Uri reasurement off so Residov he talks about
Speaker 2: how you know he was there in India, you know,
Speaker 2: undercover hippie or whatever, or you know, and and saying
Speaker 2: like they're promoting all these types of religion and navel
Speaker 2: gazing and even like mindfulness, right, people do all this mindfulness.
Speaker 2: You know, people get into this and in the sense
Speaker 2: they're in they're still in their own shell and they're
Speaker 2: creating these sort of imaginal states and they think, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm so mindful. You're not being mindful. But what you're
Speaker 2: doing is you're you're locking inwards so you can be
Speaker 2: externally manipulated or you're just not taking interest in the
Speaker 2: world around you. And the fact that you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, that you're you're you're part of it. And
Speaker 2: so in a sense, and this is based they believe,
Speaker 2: they fundamentally say, the whole principle of everything is you know,
Speaker 2: the supreme governance is God right of everything in the world.
Speaker 2: So this is they it is a fundamental part of
Speaker 2: this whole view, but it's expressed very very scientifically, but
Speaker 2: it's also expressed in a way that they objectively sort
Speaker 2: of determined. But this so again just to re reiterate
Speaker 2: this so energetic informational exchange between every person and creation
Speaker 2: objectively flow. So we're aware of the environment. There's many
Speaker 2: many things that we do not consciously perceive, but they're
Speaker 2: still going on, so they're beyond conscious perception and they're
Speaker 2: also outside of technological perception. So this kind of gives hope,
Speaker 2: right that even with all this stuff, you know, all
Speaker 2: their mind control technology, all the you know, I like
Speaker 2: that human bio robots, right, generating all these human bio robots,
Speaker 2: artificial intelligence, you know, vaccine, warfare, et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera, there's things that are outside of
Speaker 2: these their powers and potentialities. They are not omnipotent omnipotent,
Speaker 2: and they're not all powerful and certain things they cannot
Speaker 2: even perceive. Okay, And then this last point, objective non
Speaker 2: existence and the impossibility of perceiving it are not the
Speaker 2: same things. They're different things. Just because you don't experience
Speaker 2: you know this, you know, say entire living presence of
Speaker 2: the cosmos doesn't mean it's not there, right, And just
Speaker 2: because you can't put it on your you know, in
Speaker 2: your you know, hyper telescope doesn't mean it's not there
Speaker 2: because you know, going back to that thing. Just realize,
Speaker 2: because people are so you know, you know, all the same,
Speaker 2: you know, all the whole.
Speaker 3: None of my neighbors listening to the show will be
Speaker 3: attacked by like the Frankenstein movie, pitchfork mob.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, like science is real love. Don't
Speaker 2: know if you see those sides like love is love, well, sciences,
Speaker 2: but trust I mean science, it's become a religious artifact.
Speaker 2: Science is now religion. Science is now it is now
Speaker 2: like look at how do you just describe or explain
Speaker 2: the way people were reacting. I hate bashing the dead
Speaker 2: horse here of of the particular the COVID thing. But
Speaker 2: hopefully this won't affect your you know, plaids.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm off of YouTube, so okay, but you
Speaker 1: don't talk whatever we want. We're actually a freedom of speech,
Speaker 1: right there we go.
Speaker 2: Well, that's so I mean that, look at that. I
Speaker 2: mean this is like you can witness this control of
Speaker 2: complete governance of people and they think that they are.
Speaker 2: Or just even with politics right the way people you
Speaker 2: know that not to bash lefties even you know, I'm
Speaker 2: just waiting. I'll have to get get out my ak
Speaker 2: when the mob comes from just joking. But I mean,
Speaker 2: but I was, I'm shocked, like everybody, you know, every
Speaker 2: all the four miles square miles around me, that's all
Speaker 2: you see. How could you even consider voting for this imbecile?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they get so emotional. But people
Speaker 2: that cannot you know, like you know you see this
Speaker 2: right with well, how about all these meltdowns people have? Right,
Speaker 2: this is public?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, No, I was just going to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: people have these public meltdowns. Can't control their passions and
Speaker 1: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So or just you disagree with them, I'll never talk
Speaker 2: to you again. You're an evil person, or you're not
Speaker 2: wearing I mean, people get violent, you have to wear
Speaker 2: a mask. This is this is indoctrination, This is this
Speaker 2: is like, this is like the most this is really
Speaker 2: returning to a very primitive state of mankind, right, I
Speaker 2: mean it's like, you know, it's like the the you know,
Speaker 2: the well for example, you know we're talking about like
Speaker 2: say Vuodon or like on Tharia. This all comes from
Speaker 2: like Yurbu, certain types of you know, African cults or whatever,
Speaker 2: and they're based on they're based on types of magic,
Speaker 2: sympathetic magic, whatever you want to call it. Magic is
Speaker 2: a different type of technology by other means, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So there's all kinds of It doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that this is you know, uh, you know, it's anything,
Speaker 2: you know what at least we go through here that
Speaker 2: you can explain how this is actually happening in a
Speaker 2: you know, with this sort of expanded statistic framing. But anyways,
Speaker 2: so like these rhythms, right, the rhythms, these came into
Speaker 2: rock and roll, they came into popular music via you know,
Speaker 2: Cuba Va whatever, and they brought in even there's certain
Speaker 2: beats that were used to they were used for transpossession
Speaker 2: to someone particular entities, particular collective psychic energies or demonic entities. Right.
Speaker 2: So I mean, I you know, I lived with this
Speaker 2: Himaland tribe. I studied possession quite quite a lot. But
Speaker 2: I mean, so I mean we're you know, we're looking
Speaker 2: at this level that you know, without getting without mystifying,
Speaker 2: but realizing, as you said, in a certain way. There
Speaker 2: is this a cult war, and it's very essential to
Speaker 2: gather yourself and really remove any like my little chicken
Speaker 2: soup for the soul notes I wrote down. Well, I'll
Speaker 2: maybe get back that at the end, but anyways, we'll
Speaker 2: continue with this. But okay, so yeah, here we go to.
Speaker 5: Put it differently objectively, there are some processes in creation
Speaker 5: that are not perceived by either a person or any
Speaker 5: technological base. In addition, a person is inclined to believe
Speaker 5: that this does not and cannot exist at all. However,
Speaker 5: the fact that we cannot perceive something due to the
Speaker 5: limitedness of our senses does not mean that this does
Speaker 5: not exist. In principle. In relation to the study of mental,
Speaker 5: psychic and nervous activity, the conclusion from the firm mentioned
Speaker 5: is the following. If technology is crude and more primitive
Speaker 5: than man in society, then the best tool for understanding
Speaker 5: man is man himself and society. As one ancient Greek
Speaker 5: philosopher said, man is the measure of all things. Technology
Speaker 5: and computer processing may only be of a temporary interest.
Speaker 5: These studies are of interest primarily to the zombiefiers of mankind,
Speaker 5: the result of which will be the death of mankind
Speaker 5: in general for everyone bio robotization, since for the survival
Speaker 5: of the entire supersystem it is necessary that as many
Speaker 5: elements of the supersystem as possible can preemptibly detect the
Speaker 5: pressing factors on the supersystem as a whole. Then, if
Speaker 5: people are zombiefied in mass, they are deprived of their
Speaker 5: intellectual and creative potential and hence the ability to detect
Speaker 5: pressing factors on the supersystem. Now let's move on to
Speaker 5: the definition of a greggor. Here is a picture which
Speaker 5: shows a person emitting a bifield as well as perceiving
Speaker 5: the surrounding world through his biofield. Living people, like the
Speaker 5: rest of nature, emit pen natural fields, energy and information
Speaker 5: according to the measure that predetermines the existence of each
Speaker 5: and every living being. The set of biofields of biospheric
Speaker 5: organic origin is usually called a biofield. A person fails
Speaker 5: senses and perceives the world not only with his organs
Speaker 5: dealt from the substance of his biomass, but also through
Speaker 5: the pen natural fields inherent to his organism. To put
Speaker 5: it differently, a person perceives information through his biofield from
Speaker 5: the entire creation if a certain plurality of people has
Speaker 5: similar parameters of their energetics biofils, vibrations, oscillations at least
Speaker 5: of fields.
Speaker 2: So what's really interesting they're talking. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: you know, and again we looked at all this research, right,
Speaker 2: that stuff in the seventies. So this is what I
Speaker 2: think is super cool about this in that this research
Speaker 2: and understanding is I don't maybe you were calling that
Speaker 2: document there was some quote from like a Russian scientist,
Speaker 2: you know, because Russia is far ahead of the West
Speaker 2: and some of these things for sure, but they said,
Speaker 2: we hope that they don't go the dark path basically
Speaker 2: with this understanding and knowledge. But so this is you know,
Speaker 2: talking about how to actually create a non physical energetic
Speaker 2: entity or whatever you know through that just means it's
Speaker 2: it's it's just it's a by just one thing about
Speaker 2: in formation, So pan natural means you know, totality, right,
Speaker 2: like inclusive. But so how to create take a football game,
Speaker 2: create you know, going back to whatever's happening right now politically, right,
Speaker 2: they're creating these type of psychic formations that are they
Speaker 2: can actually control people, right, I.
Speaker 1: Think so and so I think you see it played
Speaker 1: out in this kind of like political war, right, they're
Speaker 1: just creating these aggrigors or whatever fighting against each other,
Speaker 1: some that are totally deceptive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even brand names have that type of aggregors,
Speaker 2: right or whatever. But but what's cool about this is,
Speaker 2: you know, we won't get into the whole because they have,
Speaker 2: you know, the whole mathematics of it. But they have
Speaker 2: they have a very clear understanding of this and application,
Speaker 2: so there's no there's no mystification here, right. So but
Speaker 2: they of course of bisex with occult sciences. But anyways,
Speaker 2: so we'll just go through this. But this is super
Speaker 2: in our so biofields, parameters of the energetics, biofield vibration,
Speaker 2: so you know, this is the resolution, This is the oscillations.
Speaker 2: This is the stuff that you get, oh you know,
Speaker 2: the diophysics or these kind of new agents. But you
Speaker 2: get it spoon fed or else. You have to join
Speaker 2: some cult to get some type of practice that may
Speaker 2: may or may not give you an experience, but that
Speaker 2: experience is not necessarily just like taking a psychedelic Oh
Speaker 2: I saw god, Well, now you got to know. Now
Speaker 2: you're getting a fight with your wife or I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying right, people think that, you know. Anyways,
Speaker 2: I'll go off that tangent, So we'll just.
Speaker 5: Continue frequencies of these fields, polarization, et cetera. Then the
Speaker 5: biofield emission of the same information by many people generates
Speaker 5: an energetic informational system on field carriers, which in the
Speaker 5: occult science says, are called a Gregor's simply speak, in
Speaker 5: roughly speak, in I emit oscolations. You emit oscillations, and
Speaker 5: if our oscillations coincide according to many parameters, then these
Speaker 5: oscillations enter into resonance and form a bifil structure on
Speaker 5: field carriers. Any oscillations carry certain information endowed with a measure.
Speaker 5: And what is matter In this case, matter is failed structures.
Speaker 5: Remember I told you that matter appears in the form
Speaker 5: of five aggregate states, solid liquid, gas, plasma particles.
Speaker 2: Sorry, just to stop that real quick. So this is where,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe there's some of these terms, like I said,
Speaker 2: there's a lot in here, but information we're not just
Speaker 2: talking like you know, information is anything perceived by the
Speaker 2: nervous system. It's you know, it's it's it's a physical feeling,
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's cognitive information, it's it's sensory information,
Speaker 2: et cetera. So information. Is you ever watch that show,
Speaker 2: The Prisoner Information.
Speaker 1: Watch it again?
Speaker 2: Yeah, number four, mister, yeah, number yeah, it's but that's
Speaker 2: a great show. Anyone who has not seen The Prisoner,
Speaker 2: you know, that's that's all cybernetics. And you know that
Speaker 2: guy kind of really just did that. You know, he
Speaker 2: kind of you know, put his own money into doing it.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: Lead actor, Yeah, he did it, and he just he
Speaker 2: never talked about it. He didn't say anything in the
Speaker 2: interviews anything, but he has a huge a lot of
Speaker 2: reveals in that in that show, The Prisoner, especially connected
Speaker 2: with this. So again, so just so the this is
Speaker 2: this exists, it's it's it's a matter, but it's a
Speaker 2: non physical matter, right, So that's very important to grasp that.
Speaker 2: These field structures, so we'll just.
Speaker 5: Continue static and dynamic fails and also a physical vacuum.
Speaker 5: These static and dynamic fails are the so called subtle matter,
Speaker 5: the frequency characteristics of which are such that they are
Speaker 5: not included in the light frequency range of a person,
Speaker 5: so he does not see them. That is, the very
Speaker 5: human biofield is matter in order to make the further
Speaker 5: material easier for perception. An images given here you see people,
Speaker 5: each of whom emits his own biofield, and if their
Speaker 5: characteristics coincide, then they form a certain common bifield, which
Speaker 5: is called a gregor. And when they talk about channeling,
Speaker 5: when someone is connected with someone or something else, then
Speaker 5: it is just about connecting to a biofield super personal structure.
Speaker 5: People of art can take information from particular gregors, which
Speaker 5: they within the boundaries of measure of their talents, form
Speaker 5: into something accessible to other people who are not connected
Speaker 5: to the corresponding at gregors, or who do not know
Speaker 5: how to take information from these aggregors. From all kinds
Speaker 5: of aggregors, thoughts suddenly come to one's mind, new ideas
Speaker 5: suddenly become the property of one's own consciousness, and so on.
Speaker 5: Classification of aggregors according to the incoming into them information.
Speaker 5: One aggregor has one information, another a gregor has other information.
Speaker 5: In other words, gregors differ in content according to the
Speaker 5: features of the energy of people connected to this agregor,
Speaker 5: according to the features of the energy potential, according to
Speaker 5: the organization of governance over this agregor.
Speaker 2: The thing so what's fascinating. They're talking about being able
Speaker 2: to manipulate masses of people potentially right forming this shared thing.
Speaker 2: And then even where people get ideas and you know,
Speaker 2: they're not necessarily their own. But the governance is basically
Speaker 2: you create. I mean, you can look at say, you know,
Speaker 2: I should get a different dead horse to beat besides COVID,
Speaker 2: but look at COVID. I mean that that is a
Speaker 2: great example of creating this gregor of fear, right of
Speaker 2: fear terror and just being able to mass manipulate this.
Speaker 2: And this is called Edgar Gral governance, where you on
Speaker 2: a psychic energetic plane you can manipulate masses of people.
Speaker 2: And the more and more you know, the more you
Speaker 2: are manipulated, the more you become you know, robotic basically,
Speaker 2: or you become you know. So I think this can
Speaker 2: explain some of these types of behavior though we see
Speaker 2: across many, many different people, like these freakouts, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like there's some these videos are I
Speaker 2: don't know if you notice that around where you live, William,
Speaker 2: but sometimes there's like one day, like every there's so
Speaker 2: many people just driving like complete maniacs, Like it's just
Speaker 2: like just crazy stuff like, you know, unnecessary trying to
Speaker 2: get in accents, I mean very aggressive, you know, swerving
Speaker 2: in front, cutting across lanes and so I mean some
Speaker 2: days I've seen like five ten people doing that. Do
Speaker 2: you notice that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it seems like it, no question. Another good
Speaker 1: example is maybe nine to eleven, like the creation oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: fear and similar like terror and mind structures, mass hatred,
Speaker 1: right for in London.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And so then you see some of this,
Speaker 2: you know, we call it like even this sort of
Speaker 2: psychic symbolism. You got the two towers, You've got all this,
Speaker 2: you know, Masonic symbolism, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: With with so there was also very occult aspect of
Speaker 2: nine to eleven as well. And that's but that's another
Speaker 2: well they'll probably get into this, so okay, we'll just
Speaker 2: continues to bit more with this.
Speaker 5: The person of authority often has the quality of a
Speaker 5: programmer of the given that gregor. Therefore, even there is
Speaker 5: another person of authority from the outside, then the latter
Speaker 5: can affect the content of the entire gregor and all
Speaker 5: the people belonging to it, simply by influencing the programmer
Speaker 5: of the aggregor. Moreover, a gregor's in creation are also
Speaker 5: hierarchically in ordered according to dervousness. If one aggregor is
Speaker 5: higher than another one, then the first one can influence
Speaker 5: the second and from a higher level, whether the measure
Speaker 5: of understanding and righteousness is higher, governing impacts are also
Speaker 5: exerted by this aggregor. People are close in terms of
Speaker 5: the parameters of their energetics, despite the peculiarities of these parameters,
Speaker 5: and are conditioned by genetics, physiology, general emotional structure, type
Speaker 5: of psyche mood at a certain point in time or
Speaker 5: at a time interval. Therefore, in the formation of human aggregors,
Speaker 5: the informational characteristics peculiarities of people and the community of
Speaker 5: people are most significant, but not energy compatibility, which is
Speaker 5: initially determined by the belonging to a people race humanity.
Speaker 5: After all, look, we are all the same in terms
Speaker 5: of the material carrier I mean, we are composed of
Speaker 5: what we eat and drink, and the informational content of
Speaker 5: our behavior is different and it is determined precisely by
Speaker 5: the measure. Further On, if we talk about the classification
Speaker 5: of aggregors, then human aggregors are nested in biospheric ones,
Speaker 5: which in their turn are nested in planetary aggregors, and
Speaker 5: so on up to the aggregor of creation. For example,
Speaker 5: the Aggregor of Russia, the Aggregor of the USA of China,
Speaker 5: and so on. All these human aggregors are nascid in
Speaker 5: biospheric aggregors. The biospheric aggregors are nasted in the aggregor
Speaker 5: of the planet Earth, which is nested in the Aggregor
Speaker 5: of the galaxy, and so on up to the Aggregor
Speaker 5: of creation. Aggregors can be mutually hierarchical. Remember we study
Speaker 5: it cycled in closed circuit supersystems. When one supersystem enters another,
Speaker 5: the same concerns aggregors. When one aggregor has some of
Speaker 5: its fragments placed in another gregor, and the latter, in
Speaker 5: its turn, has some of its fragments placed in the
Speaker 5: first aggregor, they can compliment each other in some part.
Speaker 5: One eggregor compliments the algorithms of another aggregor with its part,
Speaker 5: while the latter compliments the algorithms of the first aggregor.
Speaker 5: Aggregors can be mutually compatible. That is, when aggregors are
Speaker 5: in contact with each other but nothing happens. Ag gregor's
Speaker 5: can and be mutually antagonistic, that is, incompatible with each other. Well,
Speaker 5: you probably found yourself in a party of some kind
Speaker 5: with everyone having fun, which means that everyone emitted their
Speaker 5: own biofils, that is, and a gregor was formed. Suddenly
Speaker 5: the doorbell ran a new person Rand. He had hardly
Speaker 5: opened his mouth and looked at anyone, but the situation
Speaker 5: had changed radically. What was this It was a carrier
Speaker 5: of another information that had come and people unconsciously felt it.
Speaker 5: It was expressed in their behavior. That is, this is
Speaker 5: an example of the antagonism of the aggregors, but the
Speaker 5: antagonism is determined by conceptions. The same thing happens in
Speaker 5: the confrontation between a gregors of various religious cults.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so I'll just all stop to share there.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, so pretty it keeps going. Like I said,
Speaker 2: so there's a lot a lot there. It's pretty pretty far,
Speaker 2: you know, really pretty interesting. I mean, and they have
Speaker 2: this matrix governance. I mean they you know, they have
Speaker 2: you know, uh, it's not just abstract you know, uh
Speaker 2: in this thing. So this is sort of again sort
Speaker 2: of a positive outlook from the uh you know, from
Speaker 2: all this research you know, to destroy the well.
Speaker 1: It is interesting the terminology they're using zombies of humanity,
Speaker 1: bio robotization, like they're way ahead of their time, and
Speaker 1: that's it. But there's also something else going on out there, right,
Speaker 1: so it's something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just as a side here, I just
Speaker 2: uh pull up this uh this rosicrusion, right, rosicruction philosophy
Speaker 2: book called the Invisible World. But just to see.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 2: So in a certain way, like so this you could
Speaker 2: say that the the the spirit is actually not separate
Speaker 2: from your material existence. And you know, but with these
Speaker 2: a lot of these things, you know, they they they're
Speaker 2: see Gregor is also I mean you can you can
Speaker 2: give people an experience, you know, they have an experience,
Speaker 2: Oh I have you know, I'm feeling this, I have
Speaker 2: this divine connection. This is there are people that can
Speaker 2: control these entities and they feed people's energy into them, right,
Speaker 2: and so but then they're actually being governed, they're being programmed.
Speaker 2: They talk about programming these types of energetic fields. So consciousness,
Speaker 2: psychic programming. This is a whole in one level, it's
Speaker 2: it's more abstract than another level. It's concordizing things that
Speaker 2: seem almost you know that that are normally like you
Speaker 2: have like an aversion. Oh this is like you know,
Speaker 2: fart airy fairy or you have to go into like
Speaker 2: you know, I dance with the gnomes pretty soon, I'm
Speaker 2: getting ready for the pitchforks. Now, I'm just kidding. I'm
Speaker 2: not afraid of that. I'm not afraid of them. But
Speaker 2: I'm just going to read a little bit from Rosicrucianism.
Speaker 2: And you're familiar with Rosicrucianism of course, apps well, but
Speaker 2: it was absolutely influential right at at its time, you know,
Speaker 2: talking about the Renaissance and things like that, right, and
Speaker 2: you know, inducting people the elite into these types of orders,
Speaker 2: right and so and another thing that you know that
Speaker 2: that you know they discussed, you know way you know
Speaker 2: in the I've read some books and on the eighteen nineties,
Speaker 2: nine hundreds, you know, they talk about how that there's
Speaker 2: etheric channels of communication. Right, this is when before Einstein
Speaker 2: got rid of the ether.
Speaker 1: So that's what interesting. They're talking about the ether again
Speaker 1: with the disappearance of like was it m h three
Speaker 1: eighty Have you ever seen that video where it disappeared?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I didn't, Yeah, yeah, no, this.
Speaker 1: That one airplane, like they think it's pretty far out there.
Speaker 1: But there's some people alleging that it didn't fly off
Speaker 1: down into the Indian Ocean and crashed there Australia, that
Speaker 1: the ether there was some high technology that transported it
Speaker 1: into the ether and back, Like have you seen the
Speaker 1: video of it show? Yeah, yeah, well you know they're
Speaker 1: talking about ether and ether A E I T H
Speaker 1: E R.
Speaker 2: Right ether ether is Yeah. Ether is is basically the
Speaker 2: you can describe as like in Hindus they call a
Speaker 2: kash a cash. It's like you know, space or sky,
Speaker 2: but it's it's you know, it's a it's a it's
Speaker 2: a it's a field, but it's an interconnected field. And
Speaker 2: this is all Testa's technology is based on ether. Einstein
Speaker 2: got rid of the ether and then you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, So I think they at some point they
Speaker 2: talk about Einstein also, but but so you can so.
Speaker 1: They might have brought it back. They might have figured
Speaker 1: it out, like somebody had like some kind of secret
Speaker 1: Manhattan project in the US government might have figured it out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, So I'll just read a little bit
Speaker 2: from this Rosicrucian philosophy, the invisible world Okay, this is
Speaker 2: quote from Roscoe.
Speaker 1: I've got twenty more minutes max. So we're one hour
Speaker 1: ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Yep, we're doing yep. So things that can be seen
Speaker 2: and handled are permanently real, And there's always a tendency
Speaker 2: to think that only such things are real. But what
Speaker 2: if that great invisible world, the world of incorporate beings,
Speaker 2: in which are the souls of the department who await
Speaker 2: contact with living beings in the material world. To those
Speaker 2: who do not conceive of an invisible world, it may
Speaker 2: be pointed out that a large proportion of our human
Speaker 2: life is now invisible and impalpable. It is invisible to
Speaker 2: the sense bound mind, but the sense bound mind may
Speaker 2: be more hospitable to the thought of the invisible and
Speaker 2: nonspatial existence. In general, we ourselves are invisible. What is
Speaker 2: a physical organism? It is only an instrument for expressing
Speaker 2: and manifesting the inner life. But the inner life, the ego,
Speaker 2: is not seen. Each person will know himself in immediate experience,
Speaker 2: and all others are known through their effect. They're not
Speaker 2: revealed in form. Da da da, But you know they
Speaker 2: go on and on. You know? With this, what is
Speaker 2: aim of all row secrusions. Is to contact this great
Speaker 2: invisible world and its entities. It is to find a
Speaker 2: world of reality and permanence, in which the true self,
Speaker 2: the eternal ego, may be known, and in which he
Speaker 2: may abide in union and concord with all other egos.
Speaker 2: Are all those people who believe in an invisible living world? Fools?
Speaker 2: Shall we designate those beings who have the ability to
Speaker 2: penetrate their consciousness into a world of spirits? Mad? If
Speaker 2: we do, then we did a guy deny God and
Speaker 2: his ministering hosts for their visible but real So it
Speaker 2: goes on and on. But there's a very subtle type
Speaker 2: of misdirection in this. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 2: are catching that. Right. So you're separating you know this,
Speaker 2: you know, you're creating this dichotomy, right, So you're separating
Speaker 2: the mind from the body. And then you have, you know,
Speaker 2: creating this construct of the ego. And then you want
Speaker 2: to encouraging people to go into this astral invisible world
Speaker 2: to contact these spirit entities. D da dah, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, to become enlightened? Well, you know, and
Speaker 2: so this is where you know you could really uh,
Speaker 2: you know, get into trouble, right, I think, And then
Speaker 2: so there's a lot of maybe I'll just last bit,
Speaker 2: I'll go back to my my little chicken soup for
Speaker 2: the soul.
Speaker 1: So let's do it, let's wrap it up. I streamed
Speaker 1: so many times this week. I've probably streamed like ten times.
Speaker 1: Let me figure it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I'll just knock this out. Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: just doing it so anyway, so I'll just go through
Speaker 2: this year. So so, uh, conscious mind, let's I wish
Speaker 2: I had been hurry. So conscious mind, unless greatly expanded,
Speaker 2: is is buffeted, often controlled by the subconscious, by hormonal
Speaker 2: processes and the filtering of perception. So you know, unlike
Speaker 2: you know, like the resicrutions that you know you're gonna
Speaker 2: you know, invoke these invisible beings and go to this
Speaker 2: magical fairy paradise. Right, what I'm saying is that you
Speaker 2: know a lot of things. You know, we don't control
Speaker 2: a lot of our processes of our body. So you know,
Speaker 2: the conscious, our general our conscious minds are not that big, right.
Speaker 2: You don't want to completely think to just what your
Speaker 2: conscious awareness at this moment is a totality of yourself?
Speaker 2: How many things are completely unconscious processes behaviors. You know,
Speaker 2: you're talking about like depression, ruminating. What if this is
Speaker 2: completely obscured from your consciousness that you're running over you know,
Speaker 2: this is what happens with trauma, right, People just run
Speaker 2: over these loops in their head, but it's blocked from
Speaker 2: conscious perception. So so this is me, this is not
Speaker 2: is like I said, my own ideas, so uh so,
Speaker 2: But just just to be aware of that and then
Speaker 2: start to get more clarity. Now you don't need to
Speaker 2: escape from the physical world in your physical body, but
Speaker 2: become more and more clear, more and more present, and
Speaker 2: also be able to redirect your conscious mind if you're
Speaker 2: focusing on something that's negative, if you're you know, you're
Speaker 2: freaking out, or you're you know, or you're you're you're adrift.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, every day we're different. Some days maybe
Speaker 2: your you know, executive function is a little bit off
Speaker 2: and you're kind of like not you know, they work
Speaker 2: with that condition, But don't just identify with the current
Speaker 2: contents of your consciousness. They might not even be your own.
Speaker 2: They may be coming in from outside thoughts, right thoughts.
Speaker 2: And also you talk about synthetic telepathy combined to technology,
Speaker 2: you know, uh, with with this understanding of these aggregorical structures, right, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: keep going here, So live good, lower your dopamine threshold,
Speaker 2: so you know, you just you know, control your neurotransamit
Speaker 2: or you know, stuff like that. Right, you don't try
Speaker 2: to take clarity in just your actual day to day life.
Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say is any highhigher state, higher
Speaker 2: spiritual whatever you want, start with your daily You're the
Speaker 2: root of your life. You're not gonna this is much.
Speaker 2: Even if you get some great cosmic state and your
Speaker 2: life is not you know, you haven't balanced it, it's
Speaker 2: gonna it may completely screw you up. Right, And that's
Speaker 2: again one of the the dangers of psychedelics. Let's say,
Speaker 2: live a good life, kindness, uh, personal power, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: doing doing your work, doing what's necessary, you know, uh, family,
Speaker 2: you know, friends, things like, don't wait for your life
Speaker 2: to start tomorrow. Don't think that once I have you know,
Speaker 2: my uh you know, my palace and my you know,
Speaker 2: my you know, retinue, my harem and my private jet,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be happy. You know, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So don't but value you know, but you have be
Speaker 2: careful about media inputs, be careful about what you take
Speaker 2: into your mind.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So it's one thing to watch something critical with a
Speaker 2: critical intelligence to understand it. Another thing just to let
Speaker 2: it wash over you and not realize what it's doing. Right.
Speaker 2: I mean, have you, like, have you any current movies?
Speaker 2: Have you seen that, like Maxine? Do you see that one?
Speaker 2: Or noo, it's about it's sort of an it's it's
Speaker 2: about a porn actress who does like sort of this
Speaker 2: black magic stuff and you know, ends up becoming like
Speaker 2: ruler of the world. And you know she does it's
Speaker 2: not ruler world. She becomes like a superstar or whatever.
Speaker 2: But it's quite interesting, you know, it's it's and it's
Speaker 2: maxing with three x's in it. But there's a lot
Speaker 2: of stuff, you know, and so this uh, you know,
Speaker 2: like the sigil Matt. You know you probably you can
Speaker 2: probably go into the sigels, right, the sigils being embedded
Speaker 2: like in all the news, you know, newscasts or like
Speaker 2: corporate logos, you know, like or like the I haven't
Speaker 2: watched actual network TV for so long. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they're still doing it, but you know, they have
Speaker 2: all these fast things, these little weird symbolic things that
Speaker 2: some of they have all the sigil magic. These are
Speaker 2: all things, right, These are information in it's if you're
Speaker 2: totally unconscious of what's happening, right, then this stuff is
Speaker 2: really going to deeply affect you and it, you know.
Speaker 2: But but the other thing just lead with this, you know,
Speaker 2: And I think that you know a lot of things
Speaker 2: like the body itself. Once you understand your own anatomy
Speaker 2: and you don't interfere, you'll be able to move faster,
Speaker 2: more rapidly. Right, You'll be able to act, You'll be
Speaker 2: more relaxed. Your body will heal itself. You know. You
Speaker 2: don't need to worry, you know, I mean you need to.
Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say is a lot of times
Speaker 2: people create illness by their thinking patterns too, right, So
Speaker 2: the body itself in a certain way like this is
Speaker 2: not We didn't make the body, right, That's what I wrote.
Speaker 2: Man did not. We did not make the body. We did, yes,
Speaker 2: it was produced through man and you know man and
Speaker 2: wife or whatever or well whatever, But this is we
Speaker 2: can't you know, we can't make a human being. We
Speaker 2: can't make any real living life for it right, So,
Speaker 2: and then it's all just uh, maybe maybe I'll just
Speaker 2: keep my I'll make this book Hans's Chicken Soup.
Speaker 1: No, but your next book sounds like a good one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just leave it. Last thing is that, you know,
Speaker 2: one thing that that people get into. I think they
Speaker 2: things get complicated or people, you know, like they want
Speaker 2: to have these like psychic experiences. They want to see
Speaker 2: these invisible realms. I think you maybe don't want to, right,
Speaker 2: I mean doesn't mean you don't You can understand these
Speaker 2: types of agger worths if you develop sensitivity, but you
Speaker 2: don't want to go into this, you know, dimension of
Speaker 2: all these entities is what all people get into black
Speaker 2: magic or even channeling and this and that. I mean,
Speaker 2: you have no idea what's going on, and you don't
Speaker 2: you really, So I think we have sort of a
Speaker 2: spiritual psychic immune system if it's not interfered with, right,
Speaker 2: and we have we live, you know, we don't have
Speaker 2: any you know, major darkness or negativity surrounding us. So
Speaker 2: I think, you know, I think there's not a lot
Speaker 2: to fear really ultimately, but you have to do the
Speaker 2: work and you have to develop the clarity and also
Speaker 2: not necessarily mystify things. And then also, like I said,
Speaker 2: just you know, if if some type of psychic or
Speaker 2: whatever ability opens up by itself, fine, right, you don't
Speaker 2: need to cultivate these things, you don't, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. You can increase your present awareness. But I
Speaker 2: just think that a lot of times stepping into these
Speaker 2: fields and you know, people don't know what they're even
Speaker 2: getting into, right, they have no idea. I mean even
Speaker 2: you know these like rock concerts and you talked about
Speaker 2: like astro world or something like that. You're walking into
Speaker 2: this occult ritual man, and not these people are are
Speaker 2: I mean, have you followed like like the I've just
Speaker 2: talked to a number of people. They take huge doses
Speaker 2: of these drugs and stuff. Man, it's like you know
Speaker 2: many people I mean, well I don't know many people,
Speaker 2: not not some people you know, And I just think,
Speaker 2: you know, unless you really know what you're doing, don't
Speaker 2: don't even You don't need to go. You can be
Speaker 2: protected by higher forces. You don't have to step into
Speaker 2: this world. You don't need to talk to your dead ancestors,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. That's all spiritualism, right, what
Speaker 2: was spiritualism? This is you know, you know, and so
Speaker 2: at least according to this the CSS conception of social
Speaker 2: safety that we kind of you know, rounded out our
Speaker 2: journey through Soviet technology with is that you know, the
Speaker 2: stuff has been around for millennia. It's been been known about,
Speaker 2: but it's also been deliberately obscured, yes, and made more
Speaker 2: magical or mystical than it is, but doesn't mean it's
Speaker 2: not real and right, you know.
Speaker 1: But that's like the perfect conclusion of all this tense
Speaker 1: series is that they've kept it from people and that
Speaker 1: it does exist in these higher realms and the attachments
Speaker 1: are beyond even the brain because it's through body. It's
Speaker 1: what this Karellian stuff and all the stuff that the
Speaker 1: new Agers talk about probably is true. Like I see
Speaker 1: your aura, Well, everybody has a kind of aura shoots
Speaker 1: off a different human body is much more complex and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different things going on in these
Speaker 1: realms or whatever, you know. So yeah, and that's well,
Speaker 1: I don't be in a great talk great series of
Speaker 1: talks for sure. Yeah, I won't super interesting.
Speaker 2: Go too far into this, bet just say that you know,
Speaker 2: the understand that you are connected with this, and you
Speaker 2: it is possible to align yourself with you could say,
Speaker 2: different types of forces or energy. So you don't really
Speaker 2: need to you don't necessarily to delve into it if
Speaker 2: you keep your ground level clean, right, if you're you
Speaker 2: can focus on you know, Jordan Peterson Hack, clean up
Speaker 2: your room. You know, Jordan is another wacko. Sorry Jordan,
Speaker 2: but I mean but this, don't look at these people.
Speaker 2: You can't regulate your emotion. You gotta regulate, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, you can't be a frigging toddler when you're
Speaker 2: like sixty years old. I guess you can be. But
Speaker 2: these are this is a lot of times much more
Speaker 2: important than trying to go, you know, fly out to
Speaker 2: the moon when you can't even drive your car along
Speaker 2: the block. But other things will open in certain things
Speaker 2: you can there are things that will protect you that
Speaker 2: are far beyond your ability or knowledge. And I just
Speaker 2: even the fact of your existence is in my opinion
Speaker 2: is you know it is celebrate this miracle that you're
Speaker 2: alive right here, right now, and do what you can
Speaker 2: and and but you know.
Speaker 1: And don't give energy to the eggrigors, the bad ones, right,
Speaker 1: don't use these things to give power to that to
Speaker 1: those other things. That can negatively influence the cosmics, you know,
Speaker 1: series of spheres, right, interlote, just like the spheres they
Speaker 1: showed to people, right, because all that stuff that you
Speaker 1: give power to has an effect, right. I mean isn't
Speaker 1: that basically what they were saying there at the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. And one last thing I'll just say is that,
Speaker 2: you know, as I said, consciousness. You know, this gets
Speaker 2: very complicated, but I mean I think that really having
Speaker 2: clarity and you don't need to you develop, just clear
Speaker 2: the simple presence and realize there could be things coming
Speaker 2: in your consciousness that are not yours, They're not from
Speaker 2: you don't identify, right, Sometimes you know, you get a panic,
Speaker 2: you get this, you have, this is the free will
Speaker 2: whatever you can change your focus, right, you don't you
Speaker 2: even if this, Okay, I'm feeling you know, really super depressed,
Speaker 2: i feel hopeless. My life sucks. You know, I'm gonna go,
Speaker 2: you know, sit under a bridge and drink a mad
Speaker 2: dog or something. Well, I could say that, I mean,
Speaker 2: you're feeling something you don't need to identify with it,
Speaker 2: we train your focus, learn how to do this. It's
Speaker 2: very important, right, don't You don't need to identify because
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff that may be coming in
Speaker 2: that is not from you. Especially it depends on type
Speaker 2: of social things you're around or other types of things.
Speaker 2: We talked about people drive crazy. That could be a
Speaker 2: type of aggregorial influence. So all right, well, thank you
Speaker 2: for this awesome, uh awesome opportunity.
Speaker 1: It's just a great, great adventure. Ten episodes, unbelievable. We
Speaker 1: did what seven on the dead, so I mean, great stuff.
Speaker 1: So I'll put all these and I think in a
Speaker 1: separate podcast so people can just listen to them all
Speaker 1: the way through. And where can people find your stuff?
Speaker 1: You have your own podcasts, right, yep?
Speaker 2: I have yep, And that's that's It's on my website
Speaker 2: or will be, and you can find it on well
Speaker 2: it should be once I get my web designers. You know,
Speaker 2: I send the the the hit team out there to
Speaker 2: threaten them. I'm just kidding now, it'll just know. I
Speaker 2: don't want to get in trouble. I'm just totally joking.
Speaker 2: But it's on my website, but it's also you can
Speaker 2: find it on Sprecker and then you know, look it
Speaker 2: up and I will.
Speaker 1: Speak hands Ucher Investigates adds Wide Open right, yep. And
Speaker 1: then your website you'll see your things going on and
Speaker 1: stay away from Springfield, Ohio unless some fried Really maybe
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Speaker 1: Drive or whatever Diners dined, Diners, drive, ins and dives. Right,
Speaker 1: maybe that would be a good episode. All right, hands,
Speaker 1: thanks so much.
Speaker 2: Great look at this one last thing. I do have
Speaker 2: a concert Ohio State University, the brand new Music Building
Speaker 2: on the nineteenth. That's next Thursday, eight pm. Free concert.
Speaker 2: Please come and I can maybe i'll I'll email you
Speaker 2: the flyer.
Speaker 1: And where is it again?
Speaker 2: It's at Ohio State University School of Music. They got
Speaker 2: this awesome brand new concert hall. So it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: So and that's Thursday.
Speaker 2: So that's the nineteenth, nineteenth of September. And it's free,
Speaker 2: not not in nickel.
Speaker 1: There you go, guys, these days, you know, where can
Speaker 1: you find free, actual free music. It's unbelievable. All right, man,
Speaker 1: thanks so much, really appreciate it. Thanks, great job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: stay there, stay there,