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Speaker 3: It Away. The second and final season of and Or
Speaker 3: has hit Disney Plus, and I believe I saw ABC
Speaker 3: running at least the first episode open wide for some trailer.
Speaker 4: It came with you to be part of something the
Speaker 4: Empire cannot weird. It's a different kind of mission. If
Speaker 4: it goes a big flames, it will burn very brightly.
Speaker 5: But if I'm giving up everything I want to win,
Speaker 5: we have to.
Speaker 4: We must stand together.
Speaker 6: We will be crushed.
Speaker 4: Resistance System sign it's a weapon. They're building a weapon.
Speaker 2: The monster will come for us. All evolution is not
Speaker 2: for the same. You're right here and you're ready to fight.
Speaker 2: There's a future here for those who dare.
Speaker 4: Welcome to the rebellion.
Speaker 3: So we got to talk about and Our season two,
Speaker 3: but no go up front. I don't absolutely love all
Speaker 3: Star Wars. I think maybe half of what's out there
Speaker 3: is watchable. And before the market was flooded with more
Speaker 3: Star Wars, movies and shows and cartoons. It got by
Speaker 3: on sheer goodwill without a decent movie since nineteen eighty,
Speaker 3: which was the Empire Strikes Back. The Prequels were awful,
Speaker 3: The Three Abrams movies were awful, The Mandalorian and Rogue
Speaker 3: One were great fun and nerds can debate this stuff
Speaker 3: instead of experiencing sexual intimacy all they want. But over
Speaker 3: and above all that, I don't love Star Wars because
Speaker 3: I like science fiction, and Star Wars infantalized science fiction
Speaker 3: from the minute it came out in nineteen seventy seven
Speaker 3: and for decades afterwards. Something becomes a hit and everyone
Speaker 3: wants to replicate it. Star Wars brought everything to the
Speaker 3: level of what children would sit through, starting with noises
Speaker 3: and dogfights in space, Darth Vader being the most on
Speaker 3: the nose, Snightly Whiplash, name having villain ever, and the
Speaker 3: list goes on. And if you want to argue about
Speaker 3: Darth Vader, having a bad guy with that name is
Speaker 3: about as remedial as having a home record character named
Speaker 3: Sluttie mccorrington. But one of the good things about having
Speaker 3: a glut of Star Wars stuff to watch is that
Speaker 3: there's now a little something out there for everyone, and
Speaker 3: and or, well it's not and or part of the
Speaker 3: conjunction junction cartoon and conjunction junctions.
Speaker 2: What damption?
Speaker 4: I got.
Speaker 5: Pretty far?
Speaker 3: My god, I love Jack Sheldon's voice. Yes, and but
Speaker 3: or I mean and or No, Bud. It's a smart
Speaker 3: show for people not completely stuck in their ten year
Speaker 3: old selves. And it's got a lot going on, here's
Speaker 3: the deal. Rogue One came out nine years ago and
Speaker 3: it was a prequel to the first Star Wars movie
Speaker 3: about how the Rebels got the plans to the Death
Speaker 3: Star that allowed Luke to blow it up by shooting
Speaker 3: it up the tailpipe, which itself is kind of like
Speaker 3: taking down an aircraft carrier with a piece of gum,
Speaker 3: but whatever. And Rogue One was based on a reference
Speaker 3: from Star Wars in the opening crawl. During the battle
Speaker 3: Rebels spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's
Speaker 3: ultimate weapon, the Death Star that's in the crawl at
Speaker 3: the beginning. I refuse to call the first movie a
Speaker 3: new hope, just like I refuse to call the Gulf
Speaker 3: of Mexico the Gulf of America. It's always going to
Speaker 3: be Star Wars and even though I'm against the strip
Speaker 3: mining of every reference and turning it into its own movie,
Speaker 3: and I can rest my case with the awful solo movie.
Speaker 3: Rogue One was a real shot in the arm, lots
Speaker 3: of fun. And Or is a prequel to Rogue One,
Speaker 3: which was a prequel. It follows the rebel Cassian and Or,
Speaker 3: who we know is going to die in Rogue one
Speaker 3: as he becomes part of the rebellion. Diego Luna plays
Speaker 3: and Or, and despite the fact that the show's named
Speaker 3: and Or, he's just part of an ensemble of characters
Speaker 3: and storylines and sometimes he's the least interesting thing about
Speaker 3: the show. Stellan Scarsgard plays a character named Luthan who's
Speaker 3: a sort of a spy and spy handler. He's always
Speaker 3: been a heavyweight, and it's really cool to see somebody
Speaker 3: with his chops do a show like this. It's sort
Speaker 3: of like seeing Richard Burton pop up in an old
Speaker 3: Batman episode. And no, that didn't really happen. Christopher Lee, Sure, yeah.
Speaker 3: Listen to this clip from the first season when somebody
Speaker 3: Luthen is sending out on a mission has been to
Speaker 3: ask him what he's sacrificed, And what do you sacrifice?
Speaker 5: Calm, kindness, kinship, love. I've given up all chance at
Speaker 5: inner peace. I made my mind a sunless face. I
Speaker 5: share my dreams with ghosts.
Speaker 6: I wake up every day to an equation I wrote
Speaker 6: fifteen years ago, for which there's only one conclusion.
Speaker 5: I'm damned for what I do. My anger, my.
Speaker 6: Ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight. They
Speaker 6: set me on a path from which there's no escape.
Speaker 3: I yearned to be.
Speaker 6: A savior against injustice without contemplating the cost, and by
Speaker 6: the time I look down.
Speaker 5: There's no longer any ground beneath my What is my sacrifice?
Speaker 6: I've condemned to use the tools of my enemy to
Speaker 6: defeat them.
Speaker 1: I burn my decency for someone else's future.
Speaker 5: I burn my life to make a sunrise that I
Speaker 5: know i'll never see now.
Speaker 6: The eagle that started this fight will never have a mirror, or.
Speaker 5: An audio or the light of gratitudes. So what do
Speaker 5: I sacrifice?
Speaker 6: Everything?
Speaker 3: Jesus sir, this is a Wendy's drive through. I just
Speaker 3: asked a basic question. When I say, and or himself
Speaker 3: is sometimes the least interesting part of the show. He
Speaker 3: spends in the first two episodes of this new season
Speaker 3: getting his ass captured and doing nothing. The intrigue has
Speaker 3: taking place elsewhere, particularly on a different planet where man Mathma,
Speaker 3: not a Kaiju, is getting over getting her She's running
Speaker 3: her daughter's wedding and dealing with dangerous rebel finance stuff
Speaker 3: that could get her killed. And there's a scene of
Speaker 3: her getting so spooked by the danger she's in that
Speaker 3: she gets high as f and is dancing by herself
Speaker 3: at the wedding pretty inspired. Tony Gilroy is the creator
Speaker 3: and head writer of and Or, and he's one of
Speaker 3: those guys whose name means you watch whatever he's got out.
Speaker 3: Along with co writing Rogue One, he wrote some of
Speaker 3: the Bourne movies, directed one of them, and also one
Speaker 3: of my favorite movies of this century, Michael Clayton in
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven. I've only seen the first three
Speaker 3: episodes that are available of and Or, but I'm in
Speaker 3: for the duration, and critics who have seen the whole
Speaker 3: season in advance have high praise for where things go.
Speaker 3: The elephant in the room that people are buzzing about
Speaker 3: is that this is Star Wars with some seriously edgier content,
Speaker 3: which includes the first Star Wars attempted rape of a character,
Speaker 3: at least I think it's the first. I never trusted
Speaker 3: jar Jar kind of a creep.
Speaker 2: The ability to speak does not make you intelligent, and
Speaker 2: I get out of here.
Speaker 4: No, no, missy, missy.
Speaker 3: Ever won't be necessary. Well done, and if there's more
Speaker 3: than that, if you've got the nerve to google, but beware. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to spoil any more than that by
Speaker 3: saying who or what are under what circumstances this happens.
Speaker 3: But it's appropriate. It fits with what we know about
Speaker 3: occupying empires in the real world. It fits with Russians
Speaker 3: in Ukraine, it fits with Nazis. We're always going to
Speaker 3: have the Ewoks. But this is more complex material about
Speaker 3: resistance against a tyrannical empire, how people become involved in it,
Speaker 3: the cost of it, and also how people within the
Speaker 3: empire are seduced by power and do things they know
Speaker 3: are evil. So I'm all in frand or and the
Speaker 3: Rise of Skywalker can still suck it. One quick PostScript here.
Speaker 3: You may not know the name Donald F. Glute, but
Speaker 3: he's best known for being a part of the Star
Speaker 3: Wars family as the author of the Empire Strikes Back
Speaker 3: novelization and a million other things from Shazam and Land
Speaker 3: of the Loss on tv x men, tons of comics.
Speaker 3: I don't know Don real well, but we've been at
Speaker 3: some signings together conventions We've talked. Earlier this month, Don
Speaker 3: Glute posted that he'd been the victim of identity theft
Speaker 3: and was totally cleaned out. He started to go fund me,
Speaker 3: and it's worth your time checking it out and deciding
Speaker 3: if you want to lend a hand. I believe Don's
Speaker 3: in his early eighties, which really isn't the ideal time
Speaker 3: to start from scratch. See what you think. You can
Speaker 3: read the details by searching for gofund me and support
Speaker 3: Donald F. Glute glut in Overcoming Financial Loss. That should
Speaker 3: be on your screen right now if you're watching online,
Speaker 3: enigmatically titled I Know I've been scanned before myself and
Speaker 3: it sucks. These people can be quite clever, as clever
Speaker 3: as they are ruthless. A lot of us are struggling
Speaker 3: or preparing to struggle right now. The terror for session
Speaker 3: seems pretty much guaranteed, and the student loan people will
Speaker 3: be paying me a visit to take out my kneecaps
Speaker 3: very soon. I know Don Glute will appreciate any help
Speaker 3: you feel like giving. And then sometime maybe we can
Speaker 3: have him on the show to talk about some of
Speaker 3: the cool stuff he's done, particularly the Spider Man cartoon
Speaker 3: from the eighties. That's your honor. Report. Further deponent saith
Speaker 3: not mo i, saith nothing okay, Mark
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