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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI A M six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Natu Key Mark talks about pontificates about pop culture, Ron

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<v Speaker 2>and Report with Mark Ronner.

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<v Speaker 3>Kf I YouTube Later with Mo Kelly, Mark Ronner, Take

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<v Speaker 3>It Away. The second and final season of and Or

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<v Speaker 3>has hit Disney Plus, and I believe I saw ABC

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<v Speaker 3>running at least the first episode open wide for some trailer.

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<v Speaker 4>It came with you to be part of something the

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<v Speaker 4>Empire cannot weird. It's a different kind of mission. If

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<v Speaker 4>it goes a big flames, it will burn very brightly.

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<v Speaker 5>But if I'm giving up everything I want to win,

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<v Speaker 5>we have to.

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<v Speaker 4>We must stand together.

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<v Speaker 6>We will be crushed.

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<v Speaker 4>Resistance System sign it's a weapon. They're building a weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>The monster will come for us. All evolution is not

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<v Speaker 2>for the same. You're right here and you're ready to fight.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a future here for those who dare.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the rebellion.

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<v Speaker 3>So we got to talk about and Our season two,

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<v Speaker 3>but no go up front. I don't absolutely love all

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<v Speaker 3>Star Wars. I think maybe half of what's out there

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<v Speaker 3>is watchable. And before the market was flooded with more

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<v Speaker 3>Star Wars, movies and shows and cartoons. It got by

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<v Speaker 3>on sheer goodwill without a decent movie since nineteen eighty,

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<v Speaker 3>which was the Empire Strikes Back. The Prequels were awful,

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<v Speaker 3>The Three Abrams movies were awful, The Mandalorian and Rogue

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<v Speaker 3>One were great fun and nerds can debate this stuff

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<v Speaker 3>instead of experiencing sexual intimacy all they want. But over

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<v Speaker 3>and above all that, I don't love Star Wars because

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<v Speaker 3>I like science fiction, and Star Wars infantalized science fiction

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<v Speaker 3>from the minute it came out in nineteen seventy seven

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<v Speaker 3>and for decades afterwards. Something becomes a hit and everyone

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<v Speaker 3>wants to replicate it. Star Wars brought everything to the

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<v Speaker 3>level of what children would sit through, starting with noises

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<v Speaker 3>and dogfights in space, Darth Vader being the most on

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<v Speaker 3>the nose, Snightly Whiplash, name having villain ever, and the

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<v Speaker 3>list goes on. And if you want to argue about

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<v Speaker 3>Darth Vader, having a bad guy with that name is

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<v Speaker 3>about as remedial as having a home record character named

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<v Speaker 3>Sluttie mccorrington. But one of the good things about having

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<v Speaker 3>a glut of Star Wars stuff to watch is that

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<v Speaker 3>there's now a little something out there for everyone, and

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<v Speaker 3>and or, well it's not and or part of the

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<v Speaker 3>conjunction junction cartoon and conjunction junctions.

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<v Speaker 2>What damption?

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<v Speaker 4>I got.

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<v Speaker 5>Pretty far?

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<v Speaker 3>My god, I love Jack Sheldon's voice. Yes, and but

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<v Speaker 3>or I mean and or No, Bud. It's a smart

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<v Speaker 3>show for people not completely stuck in their ten year

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<v Speaker 3>old selves. And it's got a lot going on, here's

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<v Speaker 3>the deal. Rogue One came out nine years ago and

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<v Speaker 3>it was a prequel to the first Star Wars movie

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<v Speaker 3>about how the Rebels got the plans to the Death

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<v Speaker 3>Star that allowed Luke to blow it up by shooting

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<v Speaker 3>it up the tailpipe, which itself is kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>taking down an aircraft carrier with a piece of gum,

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<v Speaker 3>but whatever. And Rogue One was based on a reference

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<v Speaker 3>from Star Wars in the opening crawl. During the battle

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<v Speaker 3>Rebels spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's

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<v Speaker 3>ultimate weapon, the Death Star that's in the crawl at

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning. I refuse to call the first movie a

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<v Speaker 3>new hope, just like I refuse to call the Gulf

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<v Speaker 3>of Mexico the Gulf of America. It's always going to

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<v Speaker 3>be Star Wars and even though I'm against the strip

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<v Speaker 3>mining of every reference and turning it into its own movie,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can rest my case with the awful solo movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Rogue One was a real shot in the arm, lots

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<v Speaker 3>of fun. And Or is a prequel to Rogue One,

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<v Speaker 3>which was a prequel. It follows the rebel Cassian and Or,

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<v Speaker 3>who we know is going to die in Rogue one

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<v Speaker 3>as he becomes part of the rebellion. Diego Luna plays

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<v Speaker 3>and Or, and despite the fact that the show's named

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<v Speaker 3>and Or, he's just part of an ensemble of characters

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<v Speaker 3>and storylines and sometimes he's the least interesting thing about

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<v Speaker 3>the show. Stellan Scarsgard plays a character named Luthan who's

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<v Speaker 3>a sort of a spy and spy handler. He's always

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<v Speaker 3>been a heavyweight, and it's really cool to see somebody

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<v Speaker 3>with his chops do a show like this. It's sort

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<v Speaker 3>of like seeing Richard Burton pop up in an old

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<v Speaker 3>Batman episode. And no, that didn't really happen. Christopher Lee, Sure, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to this clip from the first season when somebody

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<v Speaker 3>Luthen is sending out on a mission has been to

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<v Speaker 3>ask him what he's sacrificed, And what do you sacrifice?

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<v Speaker 5>Calm, kindness, kinship, love. I've given up all chance at

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<v Speaker 5>inner peace. I made my mind a sunless face. I

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<v Speaker 5>share my dreams with ghosts.

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<v Speaker 6>I wake up every day to an equation I wrote

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<v Speaker 6>fifteen years ago, for which there's only one conclusion.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm damned for what I do. My anger, my.

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<v Speaker 6>Ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight. They

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<v Speaker 6>set me on a path from which there's no escape.

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<v Speaker 3>I yearned to be.

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<v Speaker 6>A savior against injustice without contemplating the cost, and by

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<v Speaker 6>the time I look down.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no longer any ground beneath my What is my sacrifice?

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<v Speaker 6>I've condemned to use the tools of my enemy to

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<v Speaker 6>defeat them.

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<v Speaker 1>I burn my decency for someone else's future.

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<v Speaker 5>I burn my life to make a sunrise that I

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<v Speaker 5>know i'll never see now.

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<v Speaker 6>The eagle that started this fight will never have a mirror, or.

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<v Speaker 5>An audio or the light of gratitudes. So what do

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<v Speaker 5>I sacrifice?

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<v Speaker 6>Everything?

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus sir, this is a Wendy's drive through. I just

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<v Speaker 3>asked a basic question. When I say, and or himself

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<v Speaker 3>is sometimes the least interesting part of the show. He

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<v Speaker 3>spends in the first two episodes of this new season

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<v Speaker 3>getting his ass captured and doing nothing. The intrigue has

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<v Speaker 3>taking place elsewhere, particularly on a different planet where man Mathma,

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<v Speaker 3>not a Kaiju, is getting over getting her She's running

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<v Speaker 3>her daughter's wedding and dealing with dangerous rebel finance stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that could get her killed. And there's a scene of

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<v Speaker 3>her getting so spooked by the danger she's in that

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<v Speaker 3>she gets high as f and is dancing by herself

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<v Speaker 3>at the wedding pretty inspired. Tony Gilroy is the creator

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<v Speaker 3>and head writer of and Or, and he's one of

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<v Speaker 3>those guys whose name means you watch whatever he's got out.

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<v Speaker 3>Along with co writing Rogue One, he wrote some of

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<v Speaker 3>the Bourne movies, directed one of them, and also one

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<v Speaker 3>of my favorite movies of this century, Michael Clayton in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and seven. I've only seen the first three

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<v Speaker 3>episodes that are available of and Or, but I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>for the duration, and critics who have seen the whole

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<v Speaker 3>season in advance have high praise for where things go.

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<v Speaker 3>The elephant in the room that people are buzzing about

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<v Speaker 3>is that this is Star Wars with some seriously edgier content,

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<v Speaker 3>which includes the first Star Wars attempted rape of a character,

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<v Speaker 3>at least I think it's the first. I never trusted

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<v Speaker 3>jar Jar kind of a creep.

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<v Speaker 2>The ability to speak does not make you intelligent, and

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<v Speaker 2>I get out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, missy, missy.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever won't be necessary. Well done, and if there's more

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<v Speaker 3>than that, if you've got the nerve to google, but beware. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to spoil any more than that by

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<v Speaker 3>saying who or what are under what circumstances this happens.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's appropriate. It fits with what we know about

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<v Speaker 3>occupying empires in the real world. It fits with Russians

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<v Speaker 3>in Ukraine, it fits with Nazis. We're always going to

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<v Speaker 3>have the Ewoks. But this is more complex material about

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<v Speaker 3>resistance against a tyrannical empire, how people become involved in it,

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<v Speaker 3>the cost of it, and also how people within the

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<v Speaker 3>empire are seduced by power and do things they know

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<v Speaker 3>are evil. So I'm all in frand or and the

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<v Speaker 3>Rise of Skywalker can still suck it. One quick PostScript here.

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<v Speaker 3>You may not know the name Donald F. Glute, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's best known for being a part of the Star

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<v Speaker 3>Wars family as the author of the Empire Strikes Back

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<v Speaker 3>novelization and a million other things from Shazam and Land

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<v Speaker 3>of the Loss on tv x men, tons of comics.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know Don real well, but we've been at

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<v Speaker 3>some signings together conventions We've talked. Earlier this month, Don

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<v Speaker 3>Glute posted that he'd been the victim of identity theft

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<v Speaker 3>and was totally cleaned out. He started to go fund me,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's worth your time checking it out and deciding

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to lend a hand. I believe Don's

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<v Speaker 3>in his early eighties, which really isn't the ideal time

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<v Speaker 3>to start from scratch. See what you think. You can

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<v Speaker 3>read the details by searching for gofund me and support

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<v Speaker 3>Donald F. Glute glut in Overcoming Financial Loss. That should

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<v Speaker 3>be on your screen right now if you're watching online,

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<v Speaker 3>enigmatically titled I Know I've been scanned before myself and

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<v Speaker 3>it sucks. These people can be quite clever, as clever

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<v Speaker 3>as they are ruthless. A lot of us are struggling

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<v Speaker 3>or preparing to struggle right now. The terror for session

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<v Speaker 3>seems pretty much guaranteed, and the student loan people will

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<v Speaker 3>be paying me a visit to take out my kneecaps

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<v Speaker 3>very soon. I know Don Glute will appreciate any help

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<v Speaker 3>you feel like giving. And then sometime maybe we can

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<v Speaker 3>have him on the show to talk about some of

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<v Speaker 3>the cool stuff he's done, particularly the Spider Man cartoon

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<v Speaker 3>from the eighties. That's your honor. Report. Further deponent saith

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<v Speaker 3>not mo i, saith nothing okay, Mark

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