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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. The story you're about to hear is true.

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The names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're

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a detective sergeant to assign the robbery detail. A lone

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band that robs a jewelry store in broad daylight. He

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takes five thousand dollars in precious stones. He's reckless, he's

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well armed.

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Speaker 3: Your job get him.

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Speaker 4: Dragman the documented drama of an actual crime. For the

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next thirty minutes in cooperational Los Angeles Police Department, you

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will travel step by step on the side of the

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law through an actual case transcribed from official police violence,

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from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is

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the story of your police force and action.

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Speaker 5: It was Tuesday, December second, was Chile in Los Angeles.

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We were working a day watch out of robbery detail.

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My partner's Ben Romero, the boss is Captain Diddeon. My

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name is Friday. Was one forty eight pm when I

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got to the basement of the City Hall.

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Speaker 6: The car pool.

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Speaker 7: Y'all over here?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Rank h hi Joe sixth Douglas Is that right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Better take Beverly Boulevard out. Huh right, I want to

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get the radio. Yeah all right, no report, yeah no.

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He got away on foot.

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Speaker 5: He headed down sixth Street after the whole up, lost

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himself in the crowd.

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Speaker 6: Better watch it there.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, sixty three w Roger Rode one thirteen.

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Speaker 7: I'm the thief work you get the story, Roger three, Well,

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not much to tell you. Walked in the store the

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right time, pointed a gun, grabbed a tray full of

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diamond rings, and walked out five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 5: Figure you must have had the jewelry store pretty well cased.

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Sounds like he's had practice, and it could be a

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sure one thing. He's well on attention.

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Speaker 8: All units all units at third and Bixel, third and

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pixels trapping accident, a man with a gun. All units

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at third and Bixel. A traffic accident. A man with

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a gun. Code three KMA three six seven.

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Speaker 7: I guess we can roll on it. Huh, all right,

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that's Bixtel just to hand. You know, I'll call him

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eighty K to control one eight OK to control.

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Speaker 8: One, control one to eighty K, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Eightyk OUP for investigation third and bixel KMA three sixty

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seven Roger.

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Speaker 8: EIGHTYK code six to third and pixel JMA three six seven.

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Speaker 5: It must be at up ahead, Joe. Yeah, right in

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the middle of the intersection. As the car turned over,

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that's all doing. Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 7: Man. He stretched out on them straight over there from

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the current. You know, I wonder if we get through here.

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Police excuse me and think let us through. Please, Well,

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let's don't just stand around looking. Somebody called the police.

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Speaker 6: Are you involved in this?

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Speaker 7: Make sure I was in it? Anybody call the police

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or police office. Is what happened? I'm sure glad to

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see you. Awful lot of trouble.

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Speaker 6: You know. How about this man here? What happened?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 7: I slugged him? I had to What do you mean, Well,

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I don't know what happened. He went a little crazy.

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I guess he pulled this gun on.

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Speaker 6: You don't got a bump on the head. It seems

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to be all right otherwise, what's your.

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Speaker 7: Name's Ernie Brooks. That truck over there, that's what I

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was driving. I was coming down Third Street and I

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stopped with the red light over there, that corner over

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there now, And when the light turned green, I started

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across the intersection. This guy way in here came barreling down.

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I went right through the red light, hit the front

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of my truck, flipped his car right over on its side,

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just like you see it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 7: The guy went a little crazy, I guess. Right after

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the crackup, I pulled the truck to the curb and

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got out. This fellow here was just climbing out of

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the top side of his car. It didn't seem hurt

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at all, you know. Well, when he saw me coming

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over to him, he pulled a gun and pointed it

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at me. Then he turned and started running. I couldn't

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figure it out.

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Speaker 6: What'd you do?

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Speaker 7: Well, as soon as he turned his back there and

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I went for him and tackled him. Felt like a tiger.

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That's why I say I slugged him. I had two officer.

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He's something awful funny about the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: What do you mean by that?

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Speaker 7: Well, Look here, This box right here fell out of

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his coat when I slugged him.

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Speaker 6: And take a look.

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Speaker 7: You know here must be three four dozen in there, rings,

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all kinds.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 7: Looks like diamonds in him, doesn't it.

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Speaker 5: The ambulance arrived and we took the unconscious jewel robbers

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suspect to Georgia Street Receiving Hospital. After it was revived

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and treated for cuts and bruises, we took him back

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to the City Hall. At the interrogation room, he fitted

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the description of the jewelry store banded almost exactly and

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refused to talk. It wouldn't even give us his name.

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checked through on and I.

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Speaker 6: The man was.

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Speaker 7: Identified as Bernon Albert.

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Speaker 5: Niccoley, an ex convict out of Fulsom and a two

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time loser. He'd served one five year term for armed

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robbery in another three years for ADW.

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Speaker 6: We checked out the wreck Carr had.

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Speaker 5: Been driving and found out that it had been stolen

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two blocks from the scene of the hold up. We

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had the manager of the jewelry store which had been

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robed brought downtown. He identified Nicoley as the bandit. The

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suspect still refused to talk. Ben and I took him

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to the main jail where he was booked on suspension

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of two eleven BC four or fifteen pm.

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Speaker 6: We checked back in at the office.

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Speaker 7: Take some of them a long time to learn, you know,

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two term loser. This went out to finish him. I

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can't figure he's been out of fullsome seven months and

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going right back in again.

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Speaker 5: Well, we can get the complaint from the day of

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mind set the arraiement for Thursday.

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Speaker 7: Own met her check with the manager of the jewelry store.

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Speaker 6: First.

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Speaker 7: I wonder if Nicola could have been in on those

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gas station hold I remember last month.

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Speaker 5: Well, we'll have him in the show up Thursday and

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see what happened. Do you want to take care of

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the arrest reports.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll get out of APB too. Can I turn

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up some outside.

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Speaker 6: Jobs on him?

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Speaker 7: I'm sure hung Were you still got that candy bar

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from night? I'm trying to think so somewhere here? Yeah,

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there you go. What's the matter with you lately?

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Speaker 6: Anyway?

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I'm eating like a horse. Can't understand, John,

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I'll get it. What do you got, Joe?

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Speaker 6: Well, that doesn't Nicoli. He escaped.

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Speaker 5: A broadcast and an all points bullet and were gotten

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out on running Nikola. All units in the vicinity of

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the escape were alerted an hour past. There was no

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report on the suspect.

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Speaker 6: We checked with the main jail.

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Speaker 5: And got the details on the escape. They told us

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that Will Nikoli was being locked up in his cell.

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He pushed his fingers into the door jam and had

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them badly mashed when the cell door closed on them.

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Both of Nikoli's wrists were then handcuffed and along with

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two other alien suspects, he was taken over to Georgia

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Street Receiving Hospital by a pair of transportation officers. Going

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up the stairs to the hospital, Niccola had turned suddenly,

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kicked one of the officers in the stomach, slugged the other.

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Speaker 6: One, and escaped.

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Speaker 5: It happened at about four or fourteen pm. By eleven

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o'clock that night, there wasn't a trace of the suspect.

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Seven point thirty the next morning, Ben and I checked

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back in for where Nicola was still at large.

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Speaker 7: Overnight report Joe hamb Well, look we am liquors door

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gas station, not a lequor store. All three hadn't held

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up between midnight and two am. They could look at

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the Benett description.

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Speaker 5: Five feet nine hundred and fifty pounds, medium bill, dark

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way of you here in the dark, Eye's fair complex

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and deep sky on Chin come by. We didn't least

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time getting started again to.

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Speaker 7: The pretty big comdown if it's Nicolay Diamond theft a

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liquor store when he.

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Speaker 6: Had to do something. He didn't have any clothes, no money.

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How about that car he used on those.

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Speaker 7: Jobs stolen and covered early this morning and going over

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for printing Roman Joe grit get on this one right away?

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Was he just got to call him minute ago?

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Speaker 6: And what's that?

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Speaker 7: He's an am address.

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Speaker 6: Matthew Hobbs.

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Speaker 7: He runs a candy store near one of the great

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schools over in Boil Heights. He might be able to

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tell you something, yeah, about what Nikolay saw him last night.

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Speaker 5: We got in the car and drove over to the

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Boyle Heights district where we located.

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Speaker 6: Matthew hobbs place of business was a small.

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Speaker 5: Store on Delray Avenue, one block from the neighborhood grammar School.

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The site out in the front read New Geneva Candy

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Parlor and Variety store. It was the usual display in

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the window, a wind up train, a few inexpensive dolls, pencils,

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riding tablets, and some crape paper. Inside the main attraction

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was two long showcases filled with a variety of penny candy.

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It was a small soda park in the career of

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the store, topped with a slab of Warren marble. Matthew

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Hobbs was a small, thin man. He looked to be

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in his mid sixties. He sat behind one of the

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counters filling cellophane bags with Christmas candy while he.

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Speaker 6: Talked to us. We asked him about Nicolai.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that's try Burnham here last night, about ten o'clock

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ten fifteen, No later, you wanted me to help him?

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Did you know Nicoley that well, mister Hobbs, as well

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as I know most of the kids who grew up

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around here. Yes, I guess I knew him well. But

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what did he ask for in the way of helps?

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Their money, clothes? You got no family left? I guess

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I was the only one he thought to come to. Well,

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aw was it that you didn't notify as sooner?

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Speaker 6: Mister Hobbs.

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Speaker 7: I knew you'd ask like to explain if I could, Yes, sir, please,

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did you have me that strick of bags there? Sergeant? Nah? No, no, no,

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the number two?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Those?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Thank you? As I said, he knocked on my

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back door about ten o'clock and I let him in.

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Acted just like an animal, some kind of crazy animal.

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And see did he have handcuffs on? Yeah? But the

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chain connecting it was broken and made me file off

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each hand cut. You know, I wouldn't do it at first.

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I had an idea what was going on. He said

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he'd kill me if I didn't help him. He kept

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threatening me. I never saw gunning like that before. H

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go on, you know, sergeant, I knew that boy when

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he was in grammar school right up the street there.

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Makes you sit down, thinks sometimes? Huh the whey they

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grow up and change?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Well, what happened after you took the cuffs off of

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and he got out of his jail clothes and put

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on one of my suits, took what I had my wallet,

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twelve dollars, and then he kept punning around and he

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found my gun.

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Speaker 6: He took that with him too. Didn't you think of

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calling for help?

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Speaker 7: Not the way he acted, sergeant, Just like a crazy animal.

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When he'd have killed me if I'd tried anything, warned

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me not to tell anybody he was here. He said

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he'd come back and killed me if I did well.

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I waited this morning and I called the police, who

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said McCauley took a gun from I'm kind of a

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gun was thirty two automatic cold. I've had it for years.

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I haven't registered with you people. He took just bny

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please clothes, gun and money if you want the true sergeant.

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I just wasn't brave enough to try to stop him.

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But when Nicolai left here, did you notice if he

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had a car now he left on foot, walked across

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the street, and he went down that way towards the town.

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I don't know. I don't suppose you'll get too far.

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I hope not. You have any ideas we might try

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to contact some of his old friends relevant, No, he

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doesn't have any folks I know of. Terrible thing is

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the kids growing up, the way they change, Like Nicolay.

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I can understand them when they're kids. Seen hundreds of

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them come through here. Know what they're thinking, how they feel,

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kind of a hobby. I understand kids. Some trouble is

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they grow up. All of a sudden, they stopped being kids.

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I don't understand him.

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Speaker 6: After that we left the candy store.

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Speaker 5: We went back to the office and got out of

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supplementary APB containing a description of the suspects, clothing, and

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the gun that he'd stolen. Together with Gonzales and Penia

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from robbery, Ben and I checked all of Nikoli's known

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friends and his usual hangouts.

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Speaker 6: Stakeouts were placed. We got nowhere.

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Speaker 5: The late evening hold ups continued. Each of the victims

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identified Nicoli as the bandit.

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Speaker 6: He used the same moo in each case.

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Speaker 5: He worked only on the weekends Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights.

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He'd steal a car, pull three hold ups in the

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same general area within an hour, abandoned the car in

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the same area, and then disappear. Two weeks pass and

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then a month. The weekend robbery's went on. For the

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most recent hold up victims, we found out that Nicole

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had picked up a partner. We checked the man's description

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through the stats office. Each of the stolen cars used

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by the suspects and then abandoned.

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Speaker 6: Were checked for prints.

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Speaker 7: We failed to identify the second man.

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Speaker 5: The holdups continued Nicole and his partner were still at large. Monday,

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January twenty sixth eight thirty am, Ben and I met

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with Captain Dideon.

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Speaker 7: What's the compscare? But the usual three hold up? Friday, three, Saturday,

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three Sunday. He's proved his point, he's consistent. Now why

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do you blow the whistle on him? We're doing everything

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it can be done, steakouts, text units on duty. It's

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not enough. The corner pocket wants some results. They want

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them fast.

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Speaker 5: Well, how about the times listed for the three stick

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ups last night?

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Speaker 6: They've been double.

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Speaker 7: Checked, correct, and something else for you figure it out?

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Speaker 10: What is it?

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Speaker 7: Jump?

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Speaker 6: I'll look here.

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Speaker 7: The drug store out in West Hollywood robbed at eleven

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fourteen pm.

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Speaker 6: All right, now, this one.

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Speaker 5: Coffee shop out in the valley robbed at eleven twenty

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one pm.

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Speaker 6: Both of them in the same m all, the same everything.

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Speaker 7: Well, it doesn't figure. They couldn't have made it from

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the spot in the west Tally went out to the

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valley in seven minutes.

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Speaker 6: It's not possible.

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Speaker 7: There's a report check it. I no, but how could

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they do it? There must be some way to work

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out the answer that's got to be. I can give

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you a shortcut, you know, Nicoley find.

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Speaker 5: Them another two weeks past, and then two weeks more.

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Besides the extra men and units put in service on weekends,

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two dozen separate steakhouts were established in areas where we

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figured Nicoli and his accomplice would strike. Didn't help much.

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The holdups continued. There was only one difference the description

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of the Bandit didn't jibe anymore. We still didn't have

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an answer to the superhuman speed that the two gunmen

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seen to show and robbing victims at widely separated points,

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all within a short.

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Speaker 7: Period of time. We stayed on it.

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Speaker 5: Friday, February twenty first, Ben and I took our turn

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on night's steakout in a vacant store on Sunset Bullard.

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We were assigned to cover a drug store and a

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bar directly across the street. We spent two weekends on

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the job. Was quiet, nothing happened. The third weekend was

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no different. One thing's for sure. We never have any

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luck victims steakhout. No, I mean this empty store must

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be the drafts place in town.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, we've had worse. What time you.

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Speaker 7: Got five past midnight? A little band over in the

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brush door on your money.

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Speaker 6: Don't you're allowed anyway?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Ben, have a look then, getting out of the

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car down the street there so well, yeah, they're heading

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for the bar. What do you think? Both got dark

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hair about the same Bill, I'm back there in the hurry,

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I'm going in the bar. Yeah, come on, well we

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better hurry. That's it, Come on, all right, throw it

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on the guns, look up, alright, hold on, hold on

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your guns, right, come on, hands behind your head.

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Speaker 9: You gotta take them to.

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Speaker 7: All right, hold it right there, Come on on your feet.

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You are right. Then you had a good Well, that's both.

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I met raptor up.

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Speaker 6: You better look again. Huh, neither one of them is Nicoli.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to drag Net, a series of authentic

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case histories documented from official files.

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Speaker 5: Saturday, February twenty second, Bet and I took the two

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robbery suspects downtown to the City Hall of the interrogation room.

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We checked them through our and eye and found that

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they both had records for burglary and grand theft auto.

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The car that they'd been using that night had been stolen.

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After two and a half hours of interrogation, one of

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the suspects of Pete alban Is decided to break down

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and cooperate one am the interrogation room.

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Speaker 7: I guess something, monitor, don't I helping you? You're not

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going to forget to help you. When they get me

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in court, we'll say they know about it. Beet we

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mentioned our report. Now wants the story. I knew one

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never should have went for it.

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Speaker 9: Believe me, all happened again, Nicollie.

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Speaker 7: He talked me, and we're talking to what Pete helping

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them onto stick ups? Was his partner sparsh one after

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he broke to him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 7: He came to me with his foolproof system. I was

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sucker enough to go for it. How long did you

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work with this? Couple of weekends?

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Speaker 6: Three? Four?

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Speaker 7: Maybe I didn't get along with him, No, nobody gets

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along with him. He's a little crazy. I think who's

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working with him now?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 9: He's had two three different guys.

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Speaker 7: I don't know who's with him, say the size and

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kind of drink of water.

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Speaker 6: But I'll gets you some people, all right? There you go?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, how about the way Nicolai works three or four

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robberies a night all over town.

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Speaker 9: A lot of guys work on that, so.

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Speaker 6: All they mean, they all keep it the same way.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 9: When I left him, I went on my own.

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Speaker 7: I picked up a partner, used his system, a pretty

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good one.

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Speaker 9: Well it looked like a good one.

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Speaker 6: I him.

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Speaker 7: You mean working on the weekends, picking up a hot car,

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dropping it fast, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You got it.

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Speaker 7: Must be half a dozen guys in this town working

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the system.

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Speaker 9: They all got it from Nacola. He taught to him.

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Speaker 7: Where do we find him, Pete? You know nicolein No,

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for sure, he's got a figure. You know, he doesn't

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live here in town. He only comes up for the weekend,

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works on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and then he takes off again,

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takes off of work. We're down by a border someplace,

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Palm City till. I'm not sure. You're not gonna forget

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him helping you. Huh, you'll let him know. I cooperated.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll let him know.

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Speaker 7: Peena, when's the last time you saw Nicole?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 7: I spent a month anyway, I never want to see

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him again. Say this may help you though. I know

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where his girlfriend stays. Yeah, a probably not South Rampart.

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I can give you the address. He probably goes see

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her once in a while. Anyone else you can think of. No,

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that's about It won't be any pushover sergeant. Like I said,

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I think he's a little crazy. It's being easy to

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want to take. But we'll give it a try. Oh,

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I mean it that way. He's wild, but you'll get him.

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I guess it's just one thing. Yeah, he'll have to

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kill him first.

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Speaker 5: Three am, Pete alban Is and his accomplished with booked

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at the Means on suspicion of two eleven PC. The

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next morning, Ben and I checked out the address of

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Nicole's girlfriend, which Alvin has had given us. The girlfriend's

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name was Esther Revard. She told us that she hadn't

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seen Nikole in more than two weeks. We asked her

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if she knew where the suspect stayed when he was

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in town. She gave us an address on South Peco.

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We called in and arranged for a stakeout on the

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girl's place.

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Speaker 6: Then we drove over to check.

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Speaker 5: The address that she'd given us was a small apartment

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court on the edge of the industrial district.

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Speaker 7: Nicholey wasn't there, neither was the manager.

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Speaker 5: We talked to one of the tenants, who told us

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that the manager of missus Clara Fontaine.

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Speaker 6: Was out of town.

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Speaker 5: He said that while she was gone, her daughter in

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Norma was looking after the place. The daughter was employed

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as a secretary at the Blue Cross Hospital Plan office

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over on Wilshire Boulevard. We called the office and the

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arrange for another steak out at the apartment court one.

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Speaker 6: Twenty five pm.

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Speaker 5: We located the landlady's daughter at the Blue Cross office

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on Wiltshire.

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Speaker 6: We showed her Nicoli's mugshot.

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Speaker 11: Yes, he's one of mama's tenants, mister Reynolds. He's in

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Bungalow five.

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Speaker 7: With him one day.

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Speaker 11: No one's registered with him. No, he has visitors though,

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there's something wrong.

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Speaker 6: But when did you see this man last?

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Speaker 7: This morning?

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Speaker 11: When I was leaving for work, he was outside.

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Speaker 7: Working on his car. Would you excuse me please? Blue Cross?

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Speaker 11: Yes, sir, I see.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 11: Just address the letter to Blue Cross Hospital Plan. You

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can send it to us here at the Wilchair office.

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Speaker 7: That's right. Well you're welcome.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry.

478
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Speaker 11: What was I going to say?

479
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Speaker 7: And who told us that you saw this man working

480
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,759
on his car this morning? Oh?

481
00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 11: Yes, he was parked right outside in front. I couldn't

482
00:22:45,759 --> 00:22:48,200
very well miss it. I'm going to tell mom about

483
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,960
it when she gets home. Well, it was certainly strange

484
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,960
because it's not that time of year. That's why I

485
00:22:55,039 --> 00:22:59,640
noticed it. Well, he was changing the license plates on

486
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his car.

487
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Speaker 6: Did you get the numbers?

488
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Speaker 11: It's right here in my purse.

489
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Speaker 5: One two pm where the information furnished just by the girl.

490
00:23:09,519 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 6: Ben got on the phone and called in.

491
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Speaker 5: A description of the suspects car, together with the two

492
00:23:13,519 --> 00:23:16,880
sets of license numbers, was in nineteen forty one Ford Sedan,

493
00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:20,279
dark blue, white side wall tires. Communications got out of

494
00:23:20,319 --> 00:23:23,960
broadcast and the supplementary apb on it. At six pm,

495
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Ben and I relieved the men on a steak out

496
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,720
at Nicoli's apartment. We waited, no sign of them. We

497
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,920
checked with the office on the hour, no sign of

498
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,519
the car. Ten pm, still nothing doing. Eleven o'clock nothing

499
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,319
and Zales and Penya from robbery drove out and relieved

500
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,880
us and we headed back to the office. Eleven twenty

501
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six pm.

502
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Speaker 7: What are you thinging?

503
00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 6: I don't know.

504
00:23:46,319 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 7: We plugged every hole I can think of things do

505
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,400
for a break? Is this overdue? I to use some

506
00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:55,839
sleepy Where is that welcome? Right?

507
00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:56,519
Speaker 2: Yeah?

508
00:23:56,599 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 6: Right away?

509
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,759
Speaker 7: Thanksgiver? Hi here's one to move on. Yeah, twelve and Beacon,

510
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,839
southeast corner. Nicole's car. They got it spotted.

511
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,279
Speaker 5: Eleven fifty six pm. Ben and I drove to the

512
00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:13,359
vicinity of twelfth and Beacon. When we checked with the

513
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men in Unit eighty K who'd spotted the.

514
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Speaker 7: Car, they had gotten out a code five on it.

515
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,079
Speaker 5: The description matched perfectly on nineteen forty one Ford sedan,

516
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,640
dark blue, white side wall tires. A license number was

517
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,960
one of those given us by the apartment manager's daughter.

518
00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:30,319
That afternoon, together with the two men in eighty six K,

519
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,720
we staked out on the suspects car at a distance

520
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,279
was parked almost exactly in the middle of the block.

521
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About twenty feet behind it, a red and white delivery.

522
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Speaker 7: Truck was parked.

523
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Speaker 6: The street was fairly deserted.

524
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Speaker 5: The only place of business open was a small corner

525
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bar at the far end of the block.

526
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Speaker 6: Twelve thirty one am, no one came near the dark

527
00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:54,559
blue sedan. We waited two am the corner bar closed up.

528
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 5: A man came out, got in the red and white

529
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,640
delivery truck and drove off. Two thirty am. The dark

530
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,160
blue sedan was still sitting there.

531
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 8: We kept waiting Roger thirteen hours, code seven.

532
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,759
Speaker 7: One way or the other. I wish you'd make up

533
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:11,319
his mind. It's a long way, cold ring here, and

534
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,000
it wasn't that vacance door and better check and see

535
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:15,480
if we're clear.

536
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, I'll do it.

537
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,839
Speaker 7: Eighty K to control one eight Okay to control one.

538
00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 8: Control one eighty K, go ahead.

539
00:25:24,839 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 7: Eighty K to control one. A wee clear, Control one

540
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,680
to eight OK. Stand by, Oh you're smoked.

541
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 6: I'm out you two.

542
00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess we do with that.

543
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, control one to eighty K, control one to eight.

544
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 6: OK.

545
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,559
Speaker 8: Your clears, code one.

546
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 7: Eighty K to control one. Roger cant for six seven.

547
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,880
I haven't looked. Joe just turned the car where far

548
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,119
into the block opposite signe heading up this way. Yeah,

549
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,359
we make out two of them. There, there's two. They're

550
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,519
passing by the Satanic. No, no, we're getting in everything.

551
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:02,279
Speaker 6: Come on.

552
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 7: Card spotted this, Joe then getting out. I hold it there,

553
00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:16,039
both of you now, Joe, get up, Nikoli, hind that car. Ah. Oh,

554
00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:19,079
don't shoot, Joe, rot your guns, both of you. Hurry,

555
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,759
don't shoot, rot your gun, don't kill us, Get up, Harry,

556
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:25,680
oh kill, come on up don't shoot. Hit my gun.

557
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:29,079
Don't shoot. It's one of them.

558
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,839
Speaker 8: Oh, Harry, got get up.

559
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 6: That's two. Let's go. Yeah, careful, here's the guns.

560
00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:40,599
Speaker 7: I'll shoot a gut my hands up. I keep him up, Okay,

561
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,759
I will just don't shoot. I didn't use my gun,

562
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:44,839
Harry did. I tried to tell him. You heard me,

563
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,240
You heard me, You heard me, not to shoot. Check

564
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:48,960
my gun. I didn't shoot it. You come on, get

565
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:55,200
him out in front of him. I'll get the guns.

566
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 6: Come out of officer.

567
00:26:57,519 --> 00:26:58,519
Speaker 9: It's the third time for me.

568
00:26:58,519 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 7: All right, save it, okay, Joey ready, let's go. Pleason,

569
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:05,960
give me break. You picked the wrong time to cry reson.

570
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,079
This is the third time for me. I'm no good

571
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,240
in there. When you had your chances, you kicked them away.

572
00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:12,359
Let's make a deal. I'm no good in jail, no

573
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:12,960
good at all.

574
00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 6: You'll know better out here. Let's go.

575
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true, only the

576
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,720
names were changed to protect the innocent.

577
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: On May twenty fourth, trial was held in Superior Court,

578
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,359
Department eighty seven, City and County of Los Angeles, State

579
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,759
of California. In a moment the results of that trial,

580
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:46,240
Burnie Nicoli and his accomplices were tried and convicted on

581
00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:49,880
several counts of first degree robbery. They received sentences as

582
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,400
prescribed by law and are now serving their terms in

583
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,839
the state penitentiary. First degree robbery is punishable by a

584
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,640
prison term of not less than five years with a

585
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,799
maximum life term.

586
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, the Red Cross has been asked by

587
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,759
your government to help the nation mobilize for defense. You

588
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,720
can help by giving generously to the Red Cross.

589
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:18,799
Speaker 4: You have just heard Dragnett a series of authentic cases

590
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:20,000
from official files.

591
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,279
Speaker 2: Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police W. H.

592
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,039
Speaker 4: Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.

593
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 7: David Harding Counterspy solves an exciting case next on NBC.

594
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: Welcome Back. In interesting personal dynamic here with an anti

595
00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:50,319
asocial perpetrator who spreads his method and creates copycats because

596
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,960
while his method is great, he's just so difficult to

597
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:57,799
work with him be around. Also, you don't generally ask

598
00:28:57,839 --> 00:29:01,599
the arresting officers for lee see on being a three

599
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,000
time loser. That's going to be up to the prosecutor,

600
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,880
though they'll pretty much say the same thing as Joe Friday.

601
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,799
I imagine pork Ben Romero he just has not enjoyed

602
00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:17,079
these assignments. You just know, even if it's a case

603
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,000
that doesn't get covered on the program, their next stakeout

604
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,599
is going to be in a walk in freezer. That's

605
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,400
the sort of lock Ben's been having.

606
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,119
Speaker 8: All right.

607
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:29,839
Speaker 1: Well, now we turn to listener comments and feedback, and

608
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,319
we start over on Facebook where regarding the episode The

609
00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:38,559
Big Crime, Dave Wright's good episode. And then we have

610
00:29:38,759 --> 00:29:42,079
a couple of comments on Spotify and we start with

611
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:48,960
a comment from Prince Adam no relation and he writes,

612
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:52,279
I know dragging that and Tales of the Texas Rangers

613
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:56,599
are both based on actual crimes. I wonder if anyone

614
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,960
ever did research and found the crimes to see how

615
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,440
how accurate they were. Well, thanks so much, I appreciate

616
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:08,359
the question. Over the years, I've actually received comments from

617
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,480
listeners who looked into cases or they have heard of

618
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:17,279
cases that were covered in a true crime or other

619
00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:21,599
sort of context and have shared some of the results.

620
00:30:21,759 --> 00:30:24,440
And it's interesting we did that a little while back

621
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,359
when we talked about the human bomb slash City Hall

622
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,359
bombing case. There were some of the early cases that

623
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:39,599
came directly from the LAPD that are better known, but

624
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,920
I think it becomes a bit harder once you get

625
00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:47,240
past those few episodes, because what Web did for the

626
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:51,480
stories that they did on Dragnet is they actually got

627
00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:56,759
these stories from policemen and they would tell their stories

628
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,440
and it would be adapted by the writer. At this point,

629
00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:05,759
Jim Moser and Web paid them I think like twenty

630
00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:09,640
dollars for their story, which was pretty good money for

631
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:13,039
the nineteen fifties, and of course the story would have

632
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,920
to be approved by the LAPD and the network. But

633
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:22,119
what that meant is that you would often have crimes

634
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:26,119
that were not very prominent or well covered at the

635
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:29,799
time that they were committed. Plus you also have to

636
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,720
keep in mind that while the crimes profiled on Dragnet

637
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:38,680
were based on true cases, they could be brought forward

638
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:42,119
in time quite a few number of years. So we

639
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,079
talked about the City Hall bombing case that one was

640
00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:50,400
actually from the nineteen twenties, and so was the story

641
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:54,400
of the Big Little Jesus, which was also set in

642
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,960
San Francisco, So it would be a challenge to locate

643
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,440
them all lost. The stories told on Dragnet might not

644
00:32:03,559 --> 00:32:08,599
have been profiled to a degree in newspaper accounts that

645
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,720
you could easily go through and say, well, this and

646
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,680
this and this was different. There are a few. There

647
00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:21,519
was actually one case where Dragnet got sued because a

648
00:32:21,599 --> 00:32:25,759
person alleged defamation. It was not actually all that series

649
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:29,799
of a case, and a whole lot fewer people would

650
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,920
know it was you, or would be reminded of it

651
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:36,519
if you didn't take them to court. But I'd digress. Now,

652
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:40,319
on a related note, if you are kind of curious

653
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,480
about the sort of cases that Web was offered, he

654
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,359
did write a book. Among Jack Webb's many talents, he

655
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:55,960
wrote a true crime book called The Badge, subtitled The

656
00:32:56,079 --> 00:33:02,240
True and Terrifying Crime Stories that Could Not be Presented

657
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:07,680
on TV, and the book was reprinted in two thousand

658
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,680
and five. It's still available on Amazon, or you can

659
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:15,759
get it through your library through an interlibrary loan. But

660
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,359
that might offer some interesting insights, although not much detail

661
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,359
as to cases that were adapted for Dragnet. And then

662
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,480
we have a comment from Moss who writes, thanks, Adam,

663
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,359
these stories make my commute much more interesting. Well, thanks

664
00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:36,079
so much, appreciate your con comment. Now it's time to

665
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thank our Patreon supporter of the day and I want

666
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,759
to go ahead and thank Michael. Michael's been one of

667
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our Patreon supporters since February twenty twenty, currently supporting the

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669
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Thanks so much for your support, Michael, and that will

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episode of Dragnet. This wee can be sure to watch

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We'll have an episode of Mister and Missus North for you,

679
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but we will be back here tomorrow. If you notice

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the episode number, this is our four thousand and seven

681
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hundredth episode, so we have a special tomorrow where.

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Speaker 12: No, you don't know of any relatives he might have.

683
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,639
Speaker 10: You never talked about any, at least next.

684
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 12: To me, but you did know him pretty well. Your

685
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:45,880
boss says you were kind of a favor of.

686
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 9: The old man.

687
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 10: Yes, I always liked him.

688
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,119
Speaker 12: Yeah, you got drunk every Saturday night regular, didn't they

689
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:51,960
real drunk?

690
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,559
Speaker 10: Billy never heard anybody but himself, and if he did

691
00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:56,119
take a few drinks once in a while.

692
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 7: Just answered Officer Killo's questions.

693
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 8: Can't well, Adam, it's not fair with poor Billy lying there.

694
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:04,119
Speaker 12: The officer has his report to make, Kathy, and he's

695
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:07,599
only trying to confirm it. We all know happened, Thanks,

696
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,679
mister Sadlick. The old guy could really tie one on,

697
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:13,119
couldn't he? Miss Owens get those? He didn't know whether

698
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he was coming or going.

699
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Speaker 10: Yes, I've seen Billy with too much, Officer, but I

700
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:19,920
saw him about two hours ago when I went over

701
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,320
to get something to eat, and I'm not sure he

702
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,519
was drinking at all tonight.

703
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 12: What do you mean?

704
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 10: Well, he was worried about something he'd found. He started

705
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:28,599
to ask me about it and then said I probably

706
00:35:28,599 --> 00:35:31,280
wouldn't know either, with just some scrap celluloid he had

707
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,400
in a blue tobacca can.

708
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Speaker 12: A blue tobacco can like this one.

709
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 10: Yes, I'm almost sure that's the can he had, and

710
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,519
he didn't seem as if he'd been drinking.

711
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 12: Mister Sadlick here tells me the can was empty when

712
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,840
they found it on him after fishing him out of

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the water. Are you sure the old guy wasn't just

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kidding you, Miss Owens.

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Speaker 10: Of course, I don't really know whether it has anything

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to do with it.

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Speaker 7: Thanks very much, kath Hey, you've confirmed with Officer Key.

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Oh want to know.

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us in the meantime. Send

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This is your host, Adam Graham signing off.