Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Depictions Media Radio.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Policy and Rights Show.
Speaker 3: Welcome Government Policy, Human Joy.
Speaker 4: This is Policy Rights, the show about government policy and
Speaker 4: issue rights. I'm Kelly Reeburn or DJ Ray if you
Speaker 4: want to refer to me as my host of Gums
Speaker 4: and Maples. Today, I'm going to talk to you about
Speaker 4: the options, my own opinions of why public transit is
Speaker 4: better as you me or me know. On my last episode,
Speaker 4: I talked about the clip of RFK Junior's report and
Speaker 4: the autism in Australia. Thanks to Michael's rearranging on the
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Speaker 4: and more of some of the features that I'm working
Speaker 4: on and Michael's working on towards the pictures media Radio
Speaker 4: and anyways, on this edition of Paulsying Rights, I'm going
Speaker 4: to be talking about the focus and the differences between
Speaker 4: Adelaide's Metro Transit and the Greater Vancouver's Translink. For an example,
Speaker 4: before I put in the two clips of both Adelaide
Speaker 4: Metro's meeting, I'm not sure they have an actual meeting
Speaker 4: or not in particular. And the translinks, I mean, they're
Speaker 4: one of their translink meetings happened earlier around the year,
Speaker 4: so I'm going to go on to that now. I mean,
Speaker 4: here are some facts about the Adelaide metro transit system.
Speaker 4: Adelaide has a frequent bus services going to in and
Speaker 4: out of the city. They have about seven lines from
Speaker 4: the city and of course the longest line is about
Speaker 4: forty two kilometers from the city heading north. A major
Speaker 4: component of the Adelaide metro bus services is the Ogubon
Speaker 4: Guided Busway, which which carries out from Adelaide to Maudbury.
Speaker 4: It's a suburb of Welbury, carry around nine million passengers
Speaker 4: a year. From its opening date in nineteen eighty six
Speaker 4: to about to twenty eleven, this was the longest bus
Speaker 4: railway services that links from twelve kilometers. It remains the
Speaker 4: world's fastest busway with a maximum permitted speed of ninety
Speaker 4: kilumnars per hour. Their buses carries about three operating companies,
Speaker 4: Torrents Transit Busways and Keiloi Downer which is known as SouthLink.
Speaker 4: And finally, they do have a streetcar line going from
Speaker 4: Adelaide to the shores of Glennelle, running every ten minutes
Speaker 4: during the daytime and twenty minutes on evenings for Metro
Speaker 4: Vancouver Translink not including of course, not including major roads
Speaker 4: and bus in the Metro Vancouver has two operating companies,
Speaker 4: coost Mountain Bus Company and the municipality of West Vancouver
Speaker 4: that also has a Sea Bus, Skytrain and West Coast Express.
Speaker 4: I for myself as a writer, I've been writing on
Speaker 4: public transit services for both sides of Vancouver and in Adelaide.
Speaker 4: Now here's the difference between the two. Translink is funded
Speaker 4: by the local government, city governments in Metro Vancouver and
Speaker 4: the provincial government, whereas Adelaide Metro is funded by Adelaide
Speaker 4: and the South Australian government. Translinke Metro buses in Metro
Speaker 4: Vancouver are equipped with machine ramp for disabled wheelchair passengers,
Speaker 4: whereas Metro Adelaide Adelaide Metro drivers have to get off
Speaker 4: the cab the driver's cab to lift the handle and
Speaker 4: unfold the ramp for wheelchair passengers. If you live in
Speaker 4: the suburbs, some of the buses will do operate every
Speaker 4: thirty minutes on weekends. In Metro Vancouver, whereas Adelaide will
Speaker 4: run every sixty minutes on weekends. Adelaide Metro buses do
Speaker 4: not carry bike racks on front of the buses, whereas
Speaker 4: Translink buses will have bike racks in front of the buses.
Speaker 4: As for the train services, if you were to ride
Speaker 4: on Adelaide Metro to the suburbans on weekends, mostly they
Speaker 4: will operate from every thirty to sixty minutes, depending on
Speaker 4: your destination. If you're going from Adelaide to the northern
Speaker 4: part of the suburban of Gower, it will be every
Speaker 4: thirty minutes, heading back thirty minutes and heading back to
Speaker 4: the city. It can be either the local stops or
Speaker 4: the express bus. If you're saying you're going to stop
Speaker 4: closer the city from that area, say Killbourn, it would
Speaker 4: leave about every sixty minutes on weekends. Unless you're living
Speaker 4: to the southern part of the city, whereas my mother
Speaker 4: and I are living at most of the trains will
Speaker 4: be leading We'll be leaving every thirty minutes with an
Speaker 4: express service to Adelaide. Because there's a second line that
Speaker 4: goes towards Flinders on the same line, splitting the line
Speaker 4: into rain in the middle of the section of the line.
Speaker 4: Another thing to note on Michael's going to be listening
Speaker 4: to it, or if anybody's listening to podcast is in
Speaker 4: the Metro Vancouver area where if you were to take
Speaker 4: a bus from the southern part of Metro Vancouver, say
Speaker 4: for example, you're leaving from white Rock to Langley, and
Speaker 4: you would can't take the bus five point thirty one
Speaker 4: to take from the metro city of white Rock over
Speaker 4: to the city of Langling and it will take you
Speaker 4: about forty minutes down there. Adelaide is completely different. Let
Speaker 4: me tell you that. Anyways, in Adelaide, if you wanted to, say,
Speaker 4: for example, want to leave from Scheidale Park or Helicove
Speaker 4: Beach going towards Mount Barker area, chances are you're going
Speaker 4: to take a train over to the city first and
Speaker 4: then take another bus that goes connected to Mount Barker,
Speaker 4: And of course the distance will be for that time
Speaker 4: on weekends will be about close to about two hours,
Speaker 4: whereas by car, if you weren't going to towards the city,
Speaker 4: it would be about forty five minutes. That's that's a
Speaker 4: that's not not right, because I'm I'm of course I
Speaker 4: am a transit passengerurnal I do want to do some
Speaker 4: things for Mount Barker and especially if I wanted to
Speaker 4: do this this proadcast to another radio UH community partners
Speaker 4: with with with Mount Barker area. If I wanted to
Speaker 4: do some some stuff, and I mean, I'd probably not
Speaker 4: be the only one who's going to be doing this, because
Speaker 4: I've probably mentioned from other people that they do live
Speaker 4: in the suburban areas that they don't want to have
Speaker 4: a bus that goes right towards the city linking another
Speaker 4: bus to Mount Barker. So so there you go. Some
Speaker 4: suggestions I did mention. One suggestion is to have a
Speaker 4: rapid bus leave from the train service from Seaford and
Speaker 4: leave from the Seaford area going towards Port Adelaide via
Speaker 4: Commercial Yes there is a commercial Dyson Road Lonsdale. Yes
Speaker 4: there is a Linsdale, but it's not the key like
Speaker 4: in North Vancouver Brighton Road stopping areas in Glen can
Speaker 4: you change airport and to the station to port station
Speaker 4: in Port Adelaide without entering the city of Adelaide for
Speaker 4: that matter, Or again, another bus leaving from Seaford to
Speaker 4: Mount Barker going through not going through the city. There
Speaker 4: are six inner regions in Metro Adelaide in of course
Speaker 4: it's the Outer South, North, South, East, West, Outer North,
Speaker 4: Outer Northwest and the Hills. Not one bus will leave
Speaker 4: from Outer South and going across the hills for bus
Speaker 4: leaving to the Hills, going from the Hills to Outer North.
Speaker 4: And don't get me started with the regional buses. If
Speaker 4: I were wanting to go see my grandaunt who lives
Speaker 4: in murray Bridge, again, I would have to do the
Speaker 4: usual train or bus to the city, take another bus
Speaker 4: going to Mount Barker, and then one of the regional
Speaker 4: buses that'll go to murray Bridge. Keep in mind on
Speaker 4: weekends the only about operate about three trips per day
Speaker 4: on Saturdays and two trips on Sundays. Very difficult. And
Speaker 4: I love my grandaunt so much. I think she's about
Speaker 4: ninety six or ninety seventy years old now and she's
Speaker 4: part of my life, part of my mom's life as well.
Speaker 4: So there you go. I didn't get started on the
Speaker 4: angel buses. I did mention about that. Of course, those
Speaker 4: are the two different on both Adelaide and Vancouver. So
Speaker 4: now I'm going to give you two clips of the.
Speaker 5: Stuff.
Speaker 4: One clip is on City of Adelaide. It's the clips
Speaker 4: about an hour and twenty eight minutes on April twenty second.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're going to mention about public
Speaker 4: transit service, but they might.
Speaker 6: You never know.
Speaker 4: In Adelaide the volume is a bit softer, so I
Speaker 4: managed to increase the volume up on Audacity and then
Speaker 4: the next clip will be, of of course, the Translate
Speaker 4: Zoom meeting that happened on March twenty sixth. That estimated
Speaker 4: times about one hour and forty minutes. So two clips
Speaker 4: hopefully on transit issues. Now we'll talk to you again soon.
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Speaker 7: Enjoy City of Adelaide Council meeting on Tuesday twenty second,
Speaker 7: April twenty twenty five. The Lord Mayor is in the chair.
Speaker 7: This council meeting will be streamed live and recorded for
Speaker 7: publishing to the Internet. Please note that an audio and
Speaker 7: visual recording is being taken of this meeting. This means
Speaker 7: that your presence at and any contribution you make to
Speaker 7: the meeting may be collected, used, disclosed or published publicly
Speaker 7: by the Council, including transfer outside Australia.
Speaker 6: Good Evening Council acknowledges that we're meeting on the traditional
Speaker 6: country of the Gharana people of the Adelaide Plains and
Speaker 6: pays respects to elders past and present. We recognize and
Speaker 6: respect their cultural heritage, beliefs and relationship with the land.
Speaker 6: We acknowledge that they are of continuing importance to the
Speaker 6: Ghana people living today, and we also extend that respect
Speaker 6: to the other Aboriginal language groups and other First Nations
Speaker 6: people who may be with us this evening. The Council
Speaker 6: acknowledges the vision of Colonel William Light in determining the
Speaker 6: site for Adelaide and the design of the city with
Speaker 6: its six squares and surrounding built of continuous park lands,
Speaker 6: which is recognized on the National Heritage List as one
Speaker 6: of the greatest examples of Australia's planning heritage. We pray
Speaker 6: for wisdom courage, empathy and understanding and guidance in the
Speaker 6: decisions that we make while seeking and respecting the opinions
Speaker 6: of others. Maybe in this meeting, speak honestly, listen, attentively,
Speaker 6: think clearly, and decide wisely for the good governance of
Speaker 6: the city of Adelaide and the well being of those
Speaker 6: we serve. I now ask all present to stand in
Speaker 6: silence in memory of those who gave their lives in
Speaker 6: defense of their country at sea, on land, and in
Speaker 6: the air. So we had two apologies this evening, one
Speaker 6: from Councilor Chorus and one from Councilor Abrahim Zaday. In
Speaker 6: terms of the confirmation of minutes, because there were several
Speaker 6: meetings conducted on the eighth of the fourth, the fourteenth
Speaker 6: of the fourth, and the fifteenth of the fourth, there
Speaker 6: are actually I think five minutes.
Speaker 8: Counselor I was just wondering if we could send the
Speaker 8: security ad home, given we probably don't need security support.
Speaker 9: I saw them waiting in the center. Unless there's a
Speaker 9: I'm not in joy.
Speaker 6: For all of them.
Speaker 8: I just I don't think we need to spend the
Speaker 8: right payers money for a mob that's not going to
Speaker 8: turn up.
Speaker 6: Gold to ask if someone will be good enough to
Speaker 6: move the all the minutes moved by by Counselor Martin,
Speaker 6: seconded by Counselor Snape, all those in favor, all those against.
Speaker 6: That's carriage unanimously, thank you members. Presumably they will be
Speaker 6: handled in a way yep. Does anyone have a declaration
Speaker 6: of conflict of interest? No, I'll move on. We have
Speaker 6: no deputations, we have no petitions. Then we'll move to
Speaker 6: item eleven, which is the Ordit and Risk moved by
Speaker 6: Counselor Martin, seconded by Councilor Snape. Is there in debate on.
Speaker 10: I did just have a question in relation to this,
Speaker 10: Lord Mars and having a look at the strategic Risk
Speaker 10: Register that we're presented with, I noted that there's no
Speaker 10: indication as to what the residual risk is after treatment.
Speaker 10: So I may have read that incorrectly, but I was
Speaker 10: just wondering whether that's intentionally blank, or whether that's a
Speaker 10: piece of work it's about to be done.
Speaker 6: My understanding was this was a draft format because the
Speaker 6: Ordit and Risk Committee had complained about the way we
Speaker 6: presented the risk, and they complained and suggested an amendment
Speaker 6: to the format, and the way it was laid out.
Speaker 6: So this meeting was just looking at the new format
Speaker 6: without all the data populating the area.
Speaker 11: Is that that's correct, Lord me, and so Lord Mayor
Speaker 11: through you, when were the fully completed strategic riskerread just
Speaker 11: to be a viable for members.
Speaker 6: I'll have to pass on that request.
Speaker 7: Miss spartelis in terms of timing.
Speaker 12: Through the presiding member, the intent is to take that
Speaker 12: new format, engage with each of the risk owners and
Speaker 12: to I guess, assess the effectiveness of those controls, to
Speaker 12: look at that residual risk with a view to presenting
Speaker 12: that to Sharia. I can commit to do that probably
Speaker 12: in the next two meetings I believe, which is probably
Speaker 12: a Dune Shurier meeting, and then we'll bring to audit
Speaker 12: Risk Committee and then Council after that.
Speaker 6: My understanding was the ARK said they liked the presentation
Speaker 6: and requested the administration to populate it in the months ahead.
Speaker 6: So councilor Davis, did I see your hand rise?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 8: With this goes a report has actually been tabled and
Speaker 8: adopted by Council. Because I don't recall it coming to
Speaker 8: this chamber.
Speaker 6: I didn't quite hear the.
Speaker 9: Question with this goes a report.
Speaker 8: We saw a cut down, slided up version. But has
Speaker 8: the full report of this of Ascosa been presented to
Speaker 8: council and adopted with its recommendations adopted in full or
Speaker 8: not through.
Speaker 13: The presiding member?
Speaker 7: My understanding is the draft of the business plan of
Speaker 7: budget presented for consultation at committee this evening. Yeah, meet
Speaker 7: the requirements of the Escosa review.
Speaker 9: Yeah. So it's quite frustrating, CEO.
Speaker 8: When I ask a question, I'm really asking for the
Speaker 8: answer to that question. I'm asking has the Escosa report
Speaker 8: in full been presented to this council? Have we acknowledged
Speaker 8: that report and accepted its recommendations?
Speaker 7: That'll happen at the special Council meeting on the twenty
Speaker 7: ninth a day Priak.
Speaker 8: Counselor, okay, so that's when we will be accepting the
Speaker 8: Escosa report.
Speaker 6: Questions or points to be made? Can I put that
Speaker 6: to the voter? Do you launch a sum up counselor
Speaker 6: all those in favor, all those against. That's carried. Thank you, members.
Speaker 6: We will now move on to Item twelve and Counselor Martin,
Speaker 6: I think you chaired this meeting. Are you happy to
Speaker 6: take this on block? Or do you.
Speaker 14: Wish I'm happy to take it on block load and do.
Speaker 6: I have a second counselor Giles, do you wish to
Speaker 6: comment on this? If not, or do you wish to
Speaker 6: sum up? Sorry?
Speaker 10: Sorry, just I didn't realize we're moving through it so rapidly.
Speaker 10: Just did want to speak in relationships.
Speaker 6: A bit naughty, I did. We've closed the debate. I'm sorry.
Speaker 10: I just want to ask question of relation to the
Speaker 10: Integrated Transport strategy, so i'd know that there were comments
Speaker 10: made at the committee meeting last week.
Speaker 3: There was an undertaking.
Speaker 10: I'm making some amendments to the Integrated Transport strategy. I
Speaker 10: can see that they haven't been.
Speaker 6: Can we just.
Speaker 7: We've given undertakings to make some amendments pride of moving
Speaker 7: out the constution.
Speaker 3: Okay, so that's why they're not in there yet. They
Speaker 3: will be there before they go out.
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you all those council I'd like to speak
Speaker 9: to it.
Speaker 6: Well, we have closed the debate. If you have one
Speaker 6: quick question we will take it.
Speaker 9: But now let's speak to the motion.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, we've closed the debate. All those against that's
Speaker 6: carrit Thank you members. I'm sorry I was going rather
Speaker 6: fast thirteen. Item thirteen that's councilor Sement trips, City Finance
Speaker 6: and Governance Committee. Do you wish to move it on block?
Speaker 3: And I'm happy to move it on block, I'm expecting.
Speaker 6: Do you wish to second it on block or do
Speaker 6: you wish to look?
Speaker 14: I have an amendment to seven point five, Lord Mira,
Speaker 14: and I wonder if we might treat all of the
Speaker 14: item as two items, that is all but seven point
Speaker 14: five and seven point five separately.
Speaker 6: Okay, So councilor Sement trip moving two, three and four,
Speaker 6: that's sorry, recommendation one, two and three, could that be
Speaker 6: seconded by counselor snape any debate on those three? All
Speaker 6: those in favor.
Speaker 3: I just do you want to speak to it briefly,
Speaker 3: Lord mayor?
Speaker 6: Around I didn't imagine sum up.
Speaker 3: Just around the budget process.
Speaker 10: So I think it's worth noting that we're obviously we
Speaker 10: in a week's time we have the budget that will
Speaker 10: be presented before us, and really recapping that we've been
Speaker 10: through quite extensive process. Now, we started in December last year,
Speaker 10: and by my itally we've had at least ten meetings,
Speaker 10: including a number of special meetings across the course. There
Speaker 10: We've looked at capital and strategic projects, operating costs. We've
Speaker 10: seen the draft budgets for Ada Akma Catatilla.
Speaker 3: We've had a rate review tonight. We've looked at the
Speaker 3: scoes of finding.
Speaker 10: So this has been through nearly what are we looking
Speaker 10: now nearly five months worth of.
Speaker 6: What is your point of order?
Speaker 8: The point of order is going through the history of
Speaker 8: It doesn't relate to the fees and charges, which is
Speaker 8: the motion for the Council. If I was trying to
Speaker 8: go on something like this, i'd been shut down and
Speaker 8: kicked out. I think that that's the same rule be
Speaker 8: applied to Council seven trip Counselor Davis.
Speaker 3: You'll find that we're taking.
Speaker 6: A rule against you, Counselor Davis, because this is emotion
Speaker 6: about the business plan and budget, which is the whole thing.
Speaker 6: So I think Council Sebentritt, who's the chair of the committee,
Speaker 6: is actually on track.
Speaker 10: I'm speaking specifically, Lord, they're just clarify for everyone's benefit.
Speaker 10: I'm speaking sparticularly in relation and Recommendation number two, which
Speaker 10: I believe does relate to endorses the finalist of strategic projects,
Speaker 10: capital projects, et cetera. So I'm just talking to the
Speaker 10: process that we've been through, noting that it's been very
Speaker 10: thorough and rigorous, and we're looking forward to receiving the
Speaker 10: budget before us in a week's time.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Lord Mayor.
Speaker 6: That is summing up, And unless there's any dissident view,
Speaker 6: we'll put all those in favor all those against. That's
Speaker 6: carrit So we'll now go to seven point five.
Speaker 14: And yes, thank you Lord Miron. I do yes, I
Speaker 14: have an amendment to seven point five and I wish
Speaker 14: to replace two. And I will read it slowly, and
Speaker 14: I do apologize for not circulating it to the administration.
Speaker 6: Oh you've got I think we have it here. This
Speaker 6: must have counselor. I think it must have somehow miraculously
Speaker 6: gone onto the screen without you knowing about it.
Speaker 14: Well, no, I was going to table previously, so that's
Speaker 14: probably why. So there's a new two and it requests
Speaker 14: administration arrange social media training for council members with Wollman's
Speaker 14: lawyers prior to June thirtieth, twenty twenty five, to be
Speaker 14: funded from the remaining twenty four to twenty five council
Speaker 14: member Training Development budget. And I would like a second
Speaker 14: Counselor Snape, thank you, Lord may Look, I have amended this.
Speaker 14: It is an important subject and look, I want to
Speaker 14: be the first to acknowledge that social media is an
Speaker 14: invaluable tool for elected members in order to convey the
Speaker 14: decisions of council and to participate in community discussions generally.
Speaker 14: But Lord Mayor, and I'm speaking generally about local government
Speaker 14: in South Australia in my comments here. But Lord Mayor,
Speaker 14: some terrible misinformation appears in social media from time to time.
Speaker 14: Some of it is well, it's misinformation and it has
Speaker 14: the potential to destroy confidence in point of topic institutions
Speaker 14: like local government.
Speaker 6: At BOD Counselor, I think we have a point of order.
Speaker 8: How is waxing lyrical about misinformation appearing on social media
Speaker 8: going to help with a council elected member scheduling to
Speaker 8: receive training in thirty journe It's either we get the
Speaker 8: training or we don't.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so that's what it is. So why don't we
Speaker 9: just move the motion? Move on? Where's councilors are.
Speaker 8: Going to wax lyrical about it around on your Instagram?
Speaker 6: If the councilor wishes to speak on his motion, I
Speaker 6: think it's fair he does so well.
Speaker 8: I just think it's disrespectful criticizing your instagrams.
Speaker 6: Don't argue, Counselor I have I have actually asked you
Speaker 6: to accept that I have not accepted your point of order.
Speaker 6: I go back to Counselor Martin, who has the call,
Speaker 6: has the flaw and is speaking to his motion.
Speaker 14: Lord Miir, I'm let me make clear I'm not criticizing
Speaker 14: your Instagram account or any of your posts. So thoroughly
Speaker 14: enjoyed them, some of the more than others, Lord me,
Speaker 14: some of the more than others. However, misinformation on social
Speaker 14: media is a glaring problem, and I think it's important
Speaker 14: for the elected members of this Council, for all of
Speaker 14: us to understand what are our obligations and our responsibilities
Speaker 14: to the community and to the Council. And the best
Speaker 14: way to do that is to invite Warman lawyers to
Speaker 14: conduct a session that will point out to us the
Speaker 14: pitfalls and ways in which we can make social media
Speaker 14: a positive tool for the City of Adelaide and for
Speaker 14: local government in South Australia. It's just a training session.
Speaker 14: I don't expect it to solve problems World Peace.
Speaker 13: Lord Mayor but I do.
Speaker 14: Think it will go someway to helping all of us
Speaker 14: better engage with social media.
Speaker 6: Could I just ask one question about Warmer's lawyers. Do
Speaker 6: we normally identify the provider? I'm not quite sure how
Speaker 6: we came upon Woman's.
Speaker 7: We have identified Woman's based on a specific offering the
Speaker 7: providing through the Local Government Association for this particular module
Speaker 7: a trade.
Speaker 6: So just to recoup that this was a recommendation in
Speaker 6: the previous advice to council a couple of months ago.
Speaker 6: Thank you, sorry, I'm.
Speaker 8: Going to move against the entirety of the motion, largely
Speaker 8: because of the schedule aligns with four of our councilors
Speaker 8: not being a member of the council. So it doesn't
Speaker 8: it make a lot more sense to wait until our
Speaker 8: new comrades join us, rather than embarking on a training
Speaker 8: exercise without them. My suggestion would be that we amend
Speaker 8: this schedule until after they elected and appointed as elected members.
Speaker 6: So could I just from the chair ask the CEO
Speaker 6: if the decision about this is because there's remaining funding
Speaker 6: in the budget. That is the case, Lord me, Thank you.
Speaker 6: Would anybody else like to have a question?
Speaker 9: A question?
Speaker 6: Look councilor Davis, you want another question.
Speaker 8: Why can't we just roll the budget, like roll any
Speaker 8: remaining training budget which is unspent in this year to
Speaker 8: the next year with how many people would die as
Speaker 8: a result of waiting until our counselors come back so
Speaker 8: that they can participate in this training or and secondly,
Speaker 8: what is a mad rush to have strategic sustainable debt understanding?
Speaker 9: It's a question as a question, why we have a
Speaker 9: mad rush? Why don't we wait until the.
Speaker 8: New elective members join us?
Speaker 13: Yes, thank you, lord, mayor look.
Speaker 3: This, Sorry, there's a point of order. Point of order.
Speaker 9: I have two questions.
Speaker 14: One well, Lord, point of order requires the person point
Speaker 14: of order point the local government's.
Speaker 8: Counsel martin counselor Martin run the chair or the chair
Speaker 8: runs a chair. My point of order is that I
Speaker 8: had two questions and they won't answered. The first question
Speaker 8: was why can't we roll over the budget to the
Speaker 8: next year? And secondly, why can't we delay this training
Speaker 8: to a more suitable time?
Speaker 6: I understood the question was this anyone going to die?
Speaker 6: And I thought that was facetious. But if anyone can
Speaker 6: answer this question, please help me.
Speaker 7: In terms of the question regarding the roleover of the
Speaker 7: training budget from the current financial year to the following.
Speaker 7: We have a general financial principle supported by the Council
Speaker 7: that we don't carry forward operational funds.
Speaker 14: Yes, thank you, Lord may And look, the answer is
Speaker 14: it is imperative we have this training before someone dies
Speaker 14: of laughter or alternatively anxiety because of the social media posts.
Speaker 13: That we all desperately.
Speaker 14: Need to understand how to actually make and present in
Speaker 14: local government in South Australia.
Speaker 13: This is a small step.
Speaker 14: The City of Adelaide I Hope is one of the
Speaker 14: first councils to undertake this sort of media training and
Speaker 14: I do believe that all of it would be grateful
Speaker 14: to the administration for arranging it as quickly as possible.
Speaker 6: Thank you. The division has been called.
Speaker 4: Members, The division has been called in relation to the
Speaker 4: motion before you please stand in favor of the motion
Speaker 4: until your name has been called.
Speaker 15: Counselor Martin, councilor Snape, councilor Giles and Councilor of Steventry.
Speaker 9: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Move to fourteen point one, which is the appointment of
Speaker 6: a counselor to the position of the Deputy Lord Mayor
Speaker 6: for the period twenty three April until the first meeting
Speaker 6: attended by the newly sworn in Central Ward Councilors. Do
Speaker 6: I have any nominations?
Speaker 16: Counselor sn I nominate counsel Martin.
Speaker 6: Counselor Martin. Are you prepared to accept it? Thank you
Speaker 6: very much. Any other nominations.
Speaker 8: I'd like to scare a general conflict of interest and
Speaker 8: I'll leave the chamber.
Speaker 6: Glarification. Could you actually tell me what is the type
Speaker 6: of this conflict?
Speaker 8: Given the public nature, I don't believe that a reasonable
Speaker 8: person would consider that I would operate as a fair
Speaker 8: minded individual in relation to voting for this item.
Speaker 9: So I'll vacate the chamber. I thank you.
Speaker 6: He doesn't have to, but if you go, we'll lose
Speaker 6: the quorum. So I believe you don't have to leave,
Speaker 6: and you haven't identified the cause of your conflict. It's
Speaker 6: important that a member recognizes the rules require the member's
Speaker 6: interest in the matter whether or not the member proposes
Speaker 6: to stay. When we know who doesn't and what the
Speaker 6: details were. We haven't been given that information, so I'm
Speaker 6: not sure if that counts as a behavioral standard. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I think we're unable to take a vote on that.
Speaker 6: I think we have a nomination, but we can't vote
Speaker 6: because the councilor Martin will have to leave the room
Speaker 6: and then we will be in quorate. So I'm going
Speaker 6: to have to adjourn the meeting because the quorum collapses.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. So we're going to seek an adjournment of
Speaker 6: that item, and you could vote for a German I suppose,
Speaker 6: but all those in favor of adjournment, I'm sorry. Five minutes. Yes,
Speaker 6: we could wait for five minutes, but I don't. Can
Speaker 6: I just take advice. I don't believe he's going to
Speaker 6: come back. I'm sorry for the gallery. We're just trying
Speaker 6: to work out the location of our council. So fourteen
Speaker 6: point two. This was dependent I think on the Deputy
Speaker 6: Lord Mayor's position. Oh sorry, this is a proxy. I apologize.
Speaker 6: So is anyone prepared to be the proxy council member
Speaker 6: for the ordered to risk? It has no remuneration.
Speaker 15: Councilor Giles, I'd like to nominate Counselor Martin.
Speaker 6: Councilor Martin, are you prepared to take on that nomination?
Speaker 14: Provided no one declares the general conflict gains?
Speaker 6: Thank you? So we will insert counselor Martin's name a
Speaker 6: proxy member without remuneration. So could we take that to
Speaker 6: the votal move? Can I just have a mover in
Speaker 6: a second and move by councilor Giles, signed by councilor Snape,
Speaker 6: all those in favor, all those against. That's carried. Thank you,
Speaker 6: Members one two point three. I'm seeking advices to which
Speaker 6: counselor would be prepared to join the reconciliation committee. Councilor Giles,
Speaker 6: are you nominating someone.
Speaker 15: I'm our nominated counselor Snape?
Speaker 6: Councilor Snape, are you prepared to accept it? Thank you?
Speaker 6: Could we put this is unremunerated again? So could I
Speaker 6: ask people to move this to someone? To move this?
Speaker 6: All those in favor, all those against? Sorry, I think
Speaker 6: the councilor seven frisk second?
Speaker 15: Did it?
Speaker 6: Counselor Giles move councilor seedentry second, all those in favor
Speaker 6: those against. That's carry Thank you, members. Oh, the Lord
Speaker 6: Mayor's a report at number fifteen. Thank you. Many of
Speaker 6: you will have enjoyed the gather round in the last week.
Speaker 6: It was Stella. I have to have so many happy
Speaker 6: visitors from interstate enjoying the locations, not just at the Oval,
Speaker 6: but also Elder Park and Rundell Moore, as well as
Speaker 6: eating and drinking across the city. They were a cheerful
Speaker 6: and joyful group of people. The festival was a great
Speaker 6: boon to the city in terms of economic benefit and interestingly,
Speaker 6: many of the people at the football also enjoyed the
Speaker 6: Shahuli experience. I have to remind you that the outdoor
Speaker 6: exhibition closes on Tuesday, April the twenty ninth, and you
Speaker 6: still have a chance to visit either during the day
Speaker 6: or in the evening. I was really delighted to go
Speaker 6: to the openings of new businesses in the city, and
Speaker 6: if you haven't attended these premises, please go to Reno's
Speaker 6: on Pirie Street, which has a stellar menu and a
Speaker 6: great kitchen. It's very close to the town Hall and
Speaker 6: it's one of our locals. I also went to the
Speaker 6: opening of Mr Sad Thompson's Plant and Landscaping store in
Speaker 6: Gillis Street and you can buy everything from wicking beds
Speaker 6: to foods for plants. I recommend it. I should mention
Speaker 6: that Reno's is a great addition to the real Side property.
Speaker 6: Revamped forty five Pirie Street. It's one of our reuse
Speaker 6: projects in the city. With reuse and upgrading the building,
Speaker 6: it saved more than fifty thousand tons of carbon dioxide emissions,
Speaker 6: which is equivalent to taking eighty five thousand return flights
Speaker 6: from Sydney to Adelaide. I also attended the Local Government
Speaker 6: Association's Metropolitan Mayor's Forum, which brought together mayors from across
Speaker 6: the metro area. Could I ask someone to move my
Speaker 6: report be received? Councilor Giles moved, Counselor Snape seconded, all
Speaker 6: those in favor with those against. Thank you members. I
Speaker 6: now move on to the council members reports. There is
Speaker 6: a recommendation, but would anyone like to comment on their activities? Nope?
Speaker 6: Could someone move the recommendation? Then move by counselor Snape
Speaker 6: secreted by Counselor siventrit any comments, if not all those
Speaker 6: in favor all those against. That's carried. Thank you members.
Speaker 17: So we have.
Speaker 6: Seventy point one. Councilor martin your motion. Do we have
Speaker 6: a second counselor seedentrit?
Speaker 14: Yes, yes, certainly, just waiting for any declarations. But okay,
Speaker 14: that's good, Lord Mayor. Cop thirty one is coming and
Speaker 14: I think regardless of who wins the next federal election,
Speaker 14: it'll be difficult for any political party or government to
Speaker 14: not support Cop thirty one down Under. Now Admin notes
Speaker 14: in its commentary that a decision will come after the
Speaker 14: federal election when the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change
Speaker 14: Committee meets, I think in South America to decide who
Speaker 14: will host the event. Australia and Turkey are said to
Speaker 14: be the main competitors.
Speaker 13: It will be a.
Speaker 14: Decision to decide between either Australia or Turkey, and I
Speaker 14: would suspect that given that the Prime Minister has already
Speaker 14: endorsed the possibility of hosting it, but particularly the event
Speaker 14: in Adelaide, assists the country enormously in this contest, and
Speaker 14: it's not entirely unexpected.
Speaker 13: The State Lord Mayor has.
Speaker 14: Already commissioned an economic impact study, which is not widely available,
Speaker 14: but I understand that from the State government's perspective, it's
Speaker 14: likely that there will be fifty thousand delegates coming to Adelaide.
Speaker 13: That would make it.
Speaker 14: The biggest conference or convention in Australia. Ever, it's huge,
Speaker 14: and in terms of economic impact, it's expected that it
Speaker 14: will generate something like half a billion dollars for the
Speaker 14: local economy during the days of COP thirty one. It
Speaker 14: is so big, in fact, that it will have to
Speaker 14: be held at multiple venues, and I understand that there's
Speaker 14: already discussion about harnessing Adelaide Oval, Adelaide Convention Center and
Speaker 14: perhaps venues smaller such as the town Hall, in order
Speaker 14: to get all of the delegates into all of the sisions.
Speaker 14: But of course the city will have to be ready,
Speaker 14: and that means a role for the City of Adelaide
Speaker 14: in making sure that arrangements like access and even just
Speaker 14: services such that we provide currently are going to be
Speaker 14: able to cope with such.
Speaker 13: A large number of delegates.
Speaker 14: We need to make sure also that our streets look
Speaker 14: spick and span and.
Speaker 13: Look the part for the job.
Speaker 14: So Lord Merrit's been suggested to me that we probably
Speaker 14: need to start turning our minds to this already. It's
Speaker 14: said that contemplating how we're going to handle this at
Speaker 14: the end of the year or early next year will
Speaker 14: probably be too late, and so I've asked the administration if,
Speaker 14: pending the nomination of Australia as the host, some information
Speaker 14: could be prepared for us.
Speaker 13: To be ready for the event.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Lord Man.
Speaker 10: Just like to speak briefly in support of this, and
Speaker 10: thank you to Counsel Martin for bringing this forward. I
Speaker 10: think for those tuning in and listening to this might
Speaker 10: be thing thinking what on earth is a cop It's
Speaker 10: a bit like the Olympic Games for everything that relates
Speaker 10: to climate change, and if climate change still remains one
Speaker 10: of the world's biggest priorities, from everything from global economic
Speaker 10: impacts through to conservation, this really is a significant and
Speaker 10: a serious event. So not only does it present an
Speaker 10: opportunity for many people visiting the city, but we will
Speaker 10: have global leaders from around the world coming together, coming
Speaker 10: into Adelaide to be part of this process. And it
Speaker 10: won't just be in the immediate time around the event.
Speaker 10: It'll be in the year leading up and about the
Speaker 10: you would expect at least the six months afterwards.
Speaker 3: So this really is a significant opportunity.
Speaker 10: And also it's a wonderful opportunity for City of Adelaide
Speaker 10: to be here supporting the hosting of this, to be
Speaker 10: able to showcase a lot of the fantastic work we've
Speaker 10: been doing. So wholeheartedly support this. This is incredibly exciting.
Speaker 10: I know There's already been a lot of hard work
Speaker 10: that's gone into this and that will continue through to
Speaker 10: hopefully what will be an extraordinary event here in Adelaide.
Speaker 6: Snape and then Councilor Davis.
Speaker 16: Thank you, Lord Mayor, and I wholeheartedly support this motion
Speaker 16: as well as well as Adelaide itself as South Australia
Speaker 16: hosting COP thirty one along our island nation.
Speaker 9: Neighbors.
Speaker 16: However, you know well, Adelaide is a unique place. It
Speaker 16: is a city ring by parklands and a suitable venue
Speaker 16: with our beautiful vistas would make a fantastic location. However,
Speaker 16: we almost also walk for walk as well as talk
Speaker 16: the talk, and I wouldn't. I'd be remiss if I
Speaker 16: did not express my concerns about the ongoing attacks on
Speaker 16: our parklands by our current state government and their close
Speaker 16: ties to fossil fuel sponsors, including Saudi Arabia's oil funds,
Speaker 16: live golf and of course Santos is tore down under.
Speaker 16: So I would use this, this position and this pulpit
Speaker 16: to urge the state government to walk for walk and
Speaker 16: not just talk to talk, and don't to be a
Speaker 16: cop out.
Speaker 6: Councilor Davis.
Speaker 8: Yeah, one hundred percent agree with Counselors Snape. The government
Speaker 8: needs to show leadership in this regard. And I noticed
Speaker 8: that the COP I think it was this year and thirty,
Speaker 8: they destroyed a huge amount of protected Brazilian rainforest in
Speaker 8: order to get all their delegates there.
Speaker 9: So kind of defeats the port purpose in any ways.
Speaker 8: So I hope that Adelaide doesn't say it, you know,
Speaker 8: face the same thing, and we pave one of our
Speaker 8: park lands in order to accommodate the fifty thousand delegates
Speaker 8: that will swamp to our city.
Speaker 9: It would be very good.
Speaker 8: I think if the administration can look at ways that
Speaker 8: we can reduce our missions. Otherwise these things turned into
Speaker 8: massive carbon fossil fuel emissions centers and a reason to
Speaker 8: go against everything this is meant to stand for, like
Speaker 8: they're doing in Brazil at the moment.
Speaker 9: So if the administration could.
Speaker 8: Assist with those types of meta so we don't embarrass
Speaker 8: ourselves like Brazil had, I think that would be a
Speaker 8: good point of call.
Speaker 6: Thank you counselor and listen to any other comments. Would
Speaker 6: you like to summon Lord Mia.
Speaker 14: I thank the counselor for his comments about carbon emissions.
Speaker 14: They are a dangerous thing, and we seem to have
Speaker 14: plenty of them around here. Look, I would urge members
Speaker 14: to support. This is a step in a very important
Speaker 14: process for the City of Adelaide, and I think to
Speaker 14: indicate our preparedness that we are thinking of Cop thirty
Speaker 14: one is I think the right signal for us to
Speaker 14: be setting me.
Speaker 6: Thank you, all those in favor, all those against. That's carriage.
Speaker 6: Thank you. Members. So now we've got Counselor Davis's motion
Speaker 6: without notice.
Speaker 9: I have a motion with fatinatus.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 6: It's quite a complicated motion. So I think what we
Speaker 6: might do is spend meeting procedures sure, so that we
Speaker 6: can actually go through it and ask the administration just
Speaker 6: to inform us as.
Speaker 9: To because I think there's some changes as well.
Speaker 8: I saw late this afternoon that, for example, four of
Speaker 8: the nets would be removed from Leigh Street.
Speaker 6: Can we just we can we spend meeting procedures?
Speaker 8: I was going to say, I'm happy to workshop administration.
Speaker 6: Yes, can I ask leave of the meeting to suspend
Speaker 6: meeting procedures for probably about ten minutes? All those in favor,
Speaker 6: all those against, that's carried. I think that as it's
Speaker 6: quite complicated, and the administration have been beavering away at
Speaker 6: this project for several weeks. I might ask Miss Padogliat
Speaker 6: to give us a briefing on what we've done to
Speaker 6: date so that it's not we're not confused.
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you, lord, ma'am.
Speaker 18: I'm certainly a very complex issue in dealing with wildlife
Speaker 18: in a city environment, and the teams collectively across the
Speaker 18: organization have been working, particularly with Green Adelaide as a
Speaker 18: leader in being able to provide us advice. We met
Speaker 18: as a group of government representatives last week and we
Speaker 18: have our first official working group meeting with broader stakeholders tomorrow,
Speaker 18: which includes our effectively important volunteer groups, including the South
Speaker 18: Australian Native Foreigner Rescue, who have been effectively manning Brundle
Speaker 18: Mall nightly to be able to support birds who are
Speaker 18: doing bird strike. We're also, as Counselor Davis mentioned, we've
Speaker 18: received device from Professor Chris Daniels who said we should
Speaker 18: look at removing the netting in Lee Street for four trees,
Speaker 18: and we will start that piece of work tomorrow morning
Speaker 18: through mister Hudiros's team. We've also had our place coordinators
Speaker 18: down in Lee Street today talking to the owners of
Speaker 18: the businesses to make sure that they're aware of our
Speaker 18: activities in that space. And we are just looking at
Speaker 18: other opportunities in terms of adjusting lighting in and around
Speaker 18: the infrastructure and Rundell Mall, as well as supporting an
Speaker 18: of the retailers for any additional window treatments which could
Speaker 18: include deckling in terms of that space.
Speaker 7: And we are.
Speaker 18: Meeting hopefully with an ornithologist tomorrow to help us in
Speaker 18: our immediate actions as well as work together collectively on
Speaker 18: what our medium and long term plans are before the
Speaker 18: next roosting season. But I'm happy to take further questions.
Speaker 8: I mean my view and you know at the Women
Speaker 8: of the Chamber, but my views that we should move
Speaker 8: emotion and I understand the administration to doing.
Speaker 9: Some of that work. So for example with the.
Speaker 8: With the nets, for example, to remove save four of
Speaker 8: them Lee Street rather than all of them. My view
Speaker 8: is that we should go out to the community with
Speaker 8: emotion about what the council is doing and that that
Speaker 8: would give us a clear.
Speaker 9: Direction on what we're going to do forward.
Speaker 8: I think things like, for example, we can clarify a
Speaker 8: lot of these points to.
Speaker 9: The effect that say, for the nets, for example, rather.
Speaker 8: Than emotion to remove all the nets, to remove the
Speaker 8: nets in line with the recommendation from Green Adelaide would
Speaker 8: be a suggestion that I would.
Speaker 9: Put in there, and anything else that would assist. But
Speaker 9: I think a lot of the.
Speaker 8: Motions in there I think are potentially thought about or
Speaker 8: if not, on their way. But I think it would
Speaker 8: be good as a council for us to clearly set
Speaker 8: out what our action would.
Speaker 7: Be through the presiding member. I'm hearing an appetite to
Speaker 7: workshop the matter so that we do end up with
Speaker 7: a conclusive resolution of the council. Would counselor Davis be
Speaker 7: prepared to work with the administration between now and the
Speaker 7: close of noms for the motions for the next meeting
Speaker 7: a better report that might provide an update and suggest
Speaker 7: a pathway moving forward.
Speaker 8: Look, I think that the issue is that the footage
Speaker 8: is extremely distressing on random Wall, which is why I
Speaker 8: think this is an urgent matter and there's a lot
Speaker 8: of questions in the community about what we're doing about it.
Speaker 8: I think so far as not egregious with what the
Speaker 8: planned approach is.
Speaker 9: If we could move these motions as a council.
Speaker 8: I think it would show leadership and show that the
Speaker 8: councilor is aware of the issue. And so for example,
Speaker 8: I'd recommend, like number one, for example, that at the
Speaker 8: end of it to add in line with Green Adelaide's
Speaker 8: recommendation for example, which we're aware of, so we could
Speaker 8: essentially make it a public motion, that would be my view,
Speaker 8: rather than waiting another two weeks for people to continue
Speaker 8: to ask what's going on?
Speaker 6: So could I just assist you, perhaps, counselor could it
Speaker 6: would it be better to say, remove some of the
Speaker 6: bird netting in line with Green Adelaide's recommendations, because that's
Speaker 6: exactly what's happening. Because there's actually been quite a lot
Speaker 6: of consultation over the last two weeks with Green Adelaide
Speaker 6: and the Department of the Environment and the property owners,
Speaker 6: and it's been a very collaborative series of communications and meetings,
Speaker 6: so that I think would tidy off on that one.
Speaker 6: The reason for some of the bird netting is the
Speaker 6: advice from Green Adelaide is that if you remove the netting,
Speaker 6: the birds won't go back because they're roosting somewhere else,
Speaker 6: and it's a period in the cycle of seasonal activity
Speaker 6: that they're locked into where they want to go at
Speaker 6: a moment, so that would actually tie in with their
Speaker 6: recommendations more clearly the counselors even do you want some
Speaker 6: questions to ask.
Speaker 10: Questions well as actually suggestions. I grew with Counselor that
Speaker 10: we want to send a clear message back to the
Speaker 10: community that we recognize as an issue here and we
Speaker 10: know what we're doing. But I wonder whether this is
Speaker 10: then aided by the first item is notes, and then
Speaker 10: it notes what Council is currently doing. Because we've said
Speaker 10: that we are doing we are taking a number.
Speaker 3: Of actions that's we're already committed to. It would be helpful.
Speaker 10: I think I don't know whether it's possible to do
Speaker 10: this now, but have a list of those items that
Speaker 10: we wish to note and then say, pray it out
Speaker 10: what we're already doing from any additional actions that we
Speaker 10: need to agree to. I recognize it's not ideal to
Speaker 10: do this during a meeting, but it's important we do
Speaker 10: send that clear message because, as you say, Lord Mayor,
Speaker 10: this matter has been worked on for a number of
Speaker 10: weeks already, and I think we need.
Speaker 6: To Davis, if you would be happy to have note
Speaker 6: the removal of some of would you be happy? Thank you?
Speaker 6: Counselor Davis is happy with that? And more questions, Counselor Martin.
Speaker 14: Yes, lord, may look, I think we're on the way.
Speaker 14: Why aren't we just noting the administration's actions which include
Speaker 14: and then list what's occurring, including the removal of the
Speaker 14: nets tomorrow, the assistance being rendered in terms of all
Speaker 14: of the other measures, and if anything remains unresolved. It's
Speaker 14: simply then adding and asks the administration too, and then
Speaker 14: it demonstrates to the community that our administration has been
Speaker 14: working on this for some time, that it's not just
Speaker 14: a motion that's come forward. This is a proactive council
Speaker 14: that's been dealing with this. And then we just added
Speaker 14: those points at the bottom that need attention.
Speaker 6: So I think we might move to that. But well,
Speaker 6: let's get some questions. Are any other questions about is
Speaker 6: everyone clear about what's happening?
Speaker 10: Council's here perhaps a father question then to help build
Speaker 10: on what council aren't set. Is there anything that's listed here?
Speaker 10: And again, thank you, counsel avers bring is forward. Is
Speaker 10: there anything that's listed here that we're not currently doing?
Speaker 6: I think that there's an interpretation of the temporary educational signage.
Speaker 6: As I understand it, there are signs that have been developed.
Speaker 6: I don't know if they're temporary. I don't know if
Speaker 6: can I have advice on that. I thought there was
Speaker 6: some signage on some of the barriers and some stickers
Speaker 6: and things going up. Is it through you little bit?
Speaker 18: I think we effectively want to make sure that there's
Speaker 18: additional signage that also responds to the volunteers needs and
Speaker 18: also the requests out of Green Adelaide.
Speaker 9: So what the.
Speaker 18: Team have suggested is some additional temporary signage that we
Speaker 18: can get up as of tomorrow, and that we add
Speaker 18: link to a QR code, which will also bump up
Speaker 18: an additional website for people to be able to find
Speaker 18: out more information and current information and be able to
Speaker 18: link through to Green Adelaide's website that also has current information.
Speaker 18: So we're bumping up additional information in support of people's needs.
Speaker 6: So my understanding is that moving on three and four,
Speaker 6: we're in constant contact with the Apple and Optus shop
Speaker 6: and they've been part of the meetings.
Speaker 18: Yeah through effectively rundle More Management, and tomorrow they've received
Speaker 18: a formal invitation to join us. They'll be joining effectively
Speaker 18: from teams because some of their team aren't based here
Speaker 18: and the Optus store. We believe that we have solved
Speaker 18: most of that problems in terms of where the birds
Speaker 18: we're getting in. So most of that stuff is again
Speaker 18: are watching brief daily based on bird behavior and what's
Speaker 18: happening in them all.
Speaker 6: So I think also having spoken to the volunteers and
Speaker 6: yourself last week, it's clear that we are working with
Speaker 6: the volunteer groups subsidizing their activities and getting parking for them.
Speaker 6: So that's again part of the stuff that's already I
Speaker 6: spoke to the volunteers last week.
Speaker 18: Yeah, and that's in train. We haven't formalized anything yet,
Speaker 18: but we have been working with him in terms of
Speaker 18: what's the what's the best way for them to be
Speaker 18: able to receive the support that we have.
Speaker 6: So I think that eight is slightly different. You're not
Speaker 6: engaging tree marting experts, you're engaging in ornithologists, so it's
Speaker 6: a very specific bird expert, so it's not actually a
Speaker 6: tree martin expert, but there they are bird experts.
Speaker 8: So because my understanding is that someone in Queensland who
Speaker 8: is who has done her doctorate in Cream Mountains, but
Speaker 8: I don't know a name, but that's the room and
Speaker 8: that's running around.
Speaker 6: I think that the plan was to have them there
Speaker 6: each day to supervise. So it's a slightly different interpretation. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so we.
Speaker 18: Were trying to The advice is to make sure that
Speaker 18: we have an ornithologist there daily to be able to
Speaker 18: help monitor the bird numbers and bird behavior. That will
Speaker 18: help us get through for any other remedial actions that
Speaker 18: we need to take and to this roosting season.
Speaker 6: Seek leave of a meeting for another five minutes, fives
Speaker 6: in favor, thank you, that's carried and then that will
Speaker 6: help us actually.
Speaker 18: And in terms of a bird management strategy, which could
Speaker 18: be another sort of expert that might as counselor David says,
Speaker 18: might be correct out of Queensland because they deal with
Speaker 18: similar issues.
Speaker 6: So I think that's under in train. So you've got
Speaker 6: a really good comprehensive list here. Accountslor Davis. Do you
Speaker 6: have been part of the working meetings for the last
Speaker 6: several weeks, haven't they? Because you need to get approval
Speaker 6: from you because these are protected animals and therefore you're
Speaker 6: not allowed to interfere with them unless you have legislative
Speaker 6: cover off of them. I got that right, yes, correct,
Speaker 6: and we have I don't know that it's called a
Speaker 6: Tree Martin Response working Group.
Speaker 13: But what you worship?
Speaker 8: Can I ask, is there anything in that motion which
Speaker 8: is egregiously different for what the administration is already doing,
Speaker 8: because this doesn't limit them in any way.
Speaker 6: No, No, I think the thing that they I haven't
Speaker 6: discovered that they're doing is number eleven. And I have
Speaker 6: a biodiversity survey from two oh three. Because I'm a
Speaker 6: jack Door will never throw anything away, and they do
Speaker 6: mention Tree Martins in that biodiversity survey. And as I
Speaker 6: understand it, at the time they were decreasing numbers in
Speaker 6: the parklands, but now they're coming in from suburbs where
Speaker 6: gorges and ravines are being built out, so that the
Speaker 6: numbers are increasing. So I think that checking out can
Speaker 6: missus redis don't we have an urban ecology strategy?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 19: And through the chair the item eleven, in line with
Speaker 19: Counselor Davis's question on what is currently not being progressed
Speaker 19: on that list is the recent biodiversity survey that Council
Speaker 19: may recall was focused and you've touched on this point,
Speaker 19: Lord Mayor, on park lands related biodiversity and doesn't pick
Speaker 19: up the urban environment. The tree Martins, as we're aware,
Speaker 19: don't roost or spend time in the parklands, and so
Speaker 19: certainly through this work in any reports, if there are
Speaker 19: amendments or inclusions we can make to existing strategies, that's
Speaker 19: something we can take as our future action.
Speaker 6: So I think we need a counselor councilor. Davis has
Speaker 6: done a good job in covering often lots of things here.
Speaker 6: Can we assist in his idea that we should?
Speaker 9: Could we delete five, five, six, and seven?
Speaker 8: No, just five, because I want to go back and
Speaker 8: contact the volunteer organizations find out if they have any
Speaker 8: out of pockets five would issue them with the temporary permits.
Speaker 9: I think that the wording of that, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 9: So why don't we just remove that?
Speaker 8: If you're making parking arrangements for them, that's great.
Speaker 9: I'm happy with that. My preference would be to move
Speaker 9: all of this.
Speaker 8: There are some differences, like reaching out to optus, for example.
Speaker 8: I do think that it's very much worth the council
Speaker 8: formally from the Council chamber riding to Apple. I think
Speaker 8: that that might assist with their brand standards of birds
Speaker 8: flying into their windows. And I feel like the rest
Speaker 8: of it is essentially what's generally what's going on at
Speaker 8: the moment, But I think that this would send a
Speaker 8: clear message to the community, and I don't think there's
Speaker 8: any adverse overlap between the two. So with amendments number one,
Speaker 8: removal of five, an eight or anything else, it's there.
Speaker 8: I'd like to move the motion if I if I could, generally,
Speaker 8: unless there is any anything egregious in there, can we
Speaker 8: just I I think it's I do think it's really
Speaker 8: relevant for this council to understand how we got here.
Speaker 8: And I understand that it could be that might contain
Speaker 8: some advice, but I do really think it's important for
Speaker 8: the Council to understand what was the process that led
Speaker 8: us to this situation, what were the assumptions that we made.
Speaker 9: Because there's another report in there about.
Speaker 8: Well what can we do in future because we're gonna
Speaker 8: have to do with this next year, and so you know,
Speaker 8: if if the past report said well we have information ABC,
Speaker 8: and the new report says, well, we have a B
Speaker 8: C D well, we know we can actually compare the
Speaker 8: two what we've done in the past resulted in this effect,
Speaker 8: and what we would do in the future. So I
Speaker 8: think it's important to understand a bit of a lessons
Speaker 8: lant and the advice that we got into how we
Speaker 8: got to this position.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Caleselor. Can I just suggest that three and
Speaker 6: four are a bit retrogressive because it's snail mail when
Speaker 6: they're actually in communication. That seems to pointless writing letters
Speaker 6: when they're talking to each other.
Speaker 9: I mean we can.
Speaker 8: I mean you send an email by with a PDAF
Speaker 8: attachment from the City of Adelaide, and you could do
Speaker 8: that tomorrow, which I think would assist the store manager
Speaker 8: to go to their higher office if it's already in
Speaker 8: train that we're going to write to them. But my
Speaker 8: understanding is that there's when not taking those steps with
Speaker 8: the Opti store, which has a different circumstance.
Speaker 6: We have a sickly for another five love's in favor.
Speaker 6: Thank you, that's Karen. Can I ask mister p Dominic.
Speaker 18: My understanding is that the Apple store has been written
Speaker 18: to efectively by Rundlemore management and invited to join the
Speaker 18: formal working which they are attending tomorrow the optics store.
Speaker 18: I don't believe has because the advice from runder Will
Speaker 18: Manage was was that was solved. But if Counsel wants
Speaker 18: us to write, we can write and join other stakeholders
Speaker 18: into the working group.
Speaker 6: The councilor seven trip More questions.
Speaker 10: Yes, I suppose my question relates to coming back to
Speaker 10: what I'd said originally, which is what are these were
Speaker 10: already doing and then what aren't we doing? With the
Speaker 10: premise being that we want to note what we're already
Speaker 10: doing because there's no value in religating them, and then
Speaker 10: really focus on what's missing that we want to agree to.
Speaker 10: I thought that's where we got to.
Speaker 6: So I think that there is an opportunity to say.
Speaker 13: That.
Speaker 6: I think we've got a landing on the first part.
Speaker 6: What we're doing. Yeah, so we are. So the E
Speaker 6: News has gone out and explained that we had been
Speaker 6: working with Green Adelaide and the Presiding Member and the
Speaker 6: suggestions that they have given us most recently have been
Speaker 6: that we remove netting on four trees. We are just
Speaker 6: the lighting, including around adjacent infrastructure in Rundelemore. We support
Speaker 6: Rundlemore traders and retails in relation to additional window treatments,
Speaker 6: and we engage the wildlife specialist and orthohologists to help
Speaker 6: inform decision making into the future. So I think that
Speaker 6: that's occurring.
Speaker 15: Man, we're trying to get the call. Considering we're still
Speaker 15: in workshop. I think that it would satisfy everybody if
Speaker 15: we said at the very top of it that Council
Speaker 15: notes and with the changes that we've discussed by you
Speaker 15: going through each points, I think we're just pretty well
Speaker 15: landed that we're noting all the things that have happened.
Speaker 15: In terms of council Stephen Tretz comments, I haven't heard
Speaker 15: anything come out that isn't in this motion, so maybe
Speaker 15: we've got an agreement about that we note and then
Speaker 15: have the motion. And also in terms of number nine,
Speaker 15: my memory of this and I went back and had
Speaker 15: to look at the minutes because I wasn't sure. But
Speaker 15: this initially came from a question by Counselor about that
Speaker 15: he asked for a report to be done on the
Speaker 15: basis of the Lee Street traders complaining about the bird pooh,
Speaker 15: excuse my French. Yeah, so yeah, it might be good
Speaker 15: for us to look examine, examin In my view, anyway
Speaker 15: to examine the way we make decisions, because if we
Speaker 15: need to understand that when you make a decision about
Speaker 15: protecting the table of diners, there might be other environmental
Speaker 15: implications that we need to also consider. So I don't
Speaker 15: have a problem with with nine, and I think that
Speaker 15: we might be able to pass this if it says
Speaker 15: that Council notes and then the whole motion.
Speaker 6: So I'm sorry, I'm a little confused.
Speaker 15: Just at the very stem, the stem that Council notes,
Speaker 15: I see, and then then we note everything.
Speaker 6: Yes, I have not commit. Would you be happy with that,
Speaker 6: councilor not? Davis?
Speaker 9: Yeah, just assist the Council notes, the administration will or.
Speaker 7: That the Council notes the following actions undertaken by the
Speaker 7: Council Administration in collaboration with Green Adelaide include.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I'm And then I think point ten change
Speaker 8: the word initiate.
Speaker 13: Uh but I I would add a love include.
Speaker 7: And you'd pull the first full bullet points here that
Speaker 7: the news canst love removing knitting on four Tracy lace straight.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm happy with the change. I think that's good. Yep.
Speaker 9: So proposing those first full of bullets yep, yep.
Speaker 19: Great, great, which might be like some of what follows
Speaker 19: for them.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I I'm sorry to keep doing this to you.
Speaker 6: Can I have another?
Speaker 9: Just go twenty minutes and then we can was sa ten.
Speaker 6: Minutes, then ten minutes, meeting the first buller.
Speaker 5: Number one with your man happy yep, okay, uh, we're
Speaker 5: actually doing some work on sidings, probably said.
Speaker 2: Writing to the Apple store.
Speaker 8: Has already good that I would I do. I do
Speaker 8: think it should come from the lord man, from the council.
Speaker 8: But I'll live it in your hands.
Speaker 15: If we're noting it can stain it is operational this. Yeah,
Speaker 15: I think we should note that we did that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, we are.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's so we I think we should
Speaker 6: take three and four out because that's happening.
Speaker 15: I'm not sure that except we're noting the man that's happening,
Speaker 15: noting there in a tradition with the Apple Store, in
Speaker 15: communication with the store.
Speaker 7: Above councilor jobs.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, supporting.
Speaker 7: Randall driders and retailers.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Yeah, So let me just three up to allmer.
Speaker 9: I think that's too complicated.
Speaker 6: And we've got a system for six and and seven already,
Speaker 6: haven't we. So that's all been occurring, so they could
Speaker 6: go maybe.
Speaker 8: Zero point seven is more of a longer term view
Speaker 8: where these ambulances.
Speaker 6: So can I tell you what for the if I
Speaker 6: might speak from the chair. Having discussed this with the
Speaker 6: experts at some length, it seems obvious, at least talking
Speaker 6: to them, that there's been a dramatic change in development
Speaker 6: in the metropolitan area. Tree martins apparently used to go
Speaker 6: into ravines and and high walled areas, and with the
Speaker 6: development in the suburbs, they've been forced into the city
Speaker 6: and they appear to be roosting in places with narrow
Speaker 6: streets and low traffic Lee Street and Rundlemore. And I
Speaker 6: think that we're victims of our own success. We've planted
Speaker 6: so many trees. There are more new habitats. Lee Street
Speaker 6: is a new habitat that is Rundlemore. And clearly in
Speaker 6: the future there are several things we need to do.
Speaker 6: One is look at the kinds of trees we plant,
Speaker 6: where they are, and how we manage the new biodiversity
Speaker 6: that moves into the city, because, as mister Harida said,
Speaker 6: our biodiversity surveys to date have been about the parklands,
Speaker 6: not about the city. And this has added a whole
Speaker 6: new dimension to our problems. So I do think that
Speaker 6: the one part that I do think is important is
Speaker 6: number eleven. And I think number eleven.
Speaker 20: Is sorry, continue counselor, and we've not establishing We're actually
Speaker 20: continuing it, aren't we.
Speaker 21: Progress?
Speaker 13: Progress?
Speaker 6: It's not a stablished we're going to progress. Yes, I
Speaker 6: don't think we want counselors on it, do we, unless
Speaker 6: they're ornithologists.
Speaker 9: I mean, I mean, I'm happy to take it out.
Speaker 8: My view is that we should have counselors on it
Speaker 8: because then you actually have a connection and someone who
Speaker 8: can liaise with this chamber in future.
Speaker 9: So I would love to be on it. But I
Speaker 9: do think that we should actually have.
Speaker 8: Someone there who's going to be able to kind of
Speaker 8: bring any of these types of issues back to the council.
Speaker 9: And actually I think that influencing future.
Speaker 6: I think that it's quite reasonable we should have some
Speaker 6: briefing from Green Adelaide that would be a better support
Speaker 6: for us.
Speaker 9: I think I'm happy to remove it if you so wish,
Speaker 9: But I am a community member of anyone's needs an
Speaker 9: extra person.
Speaker 6: So I think that we've just changed the flavor of
Speaker 6: it is do you think we've made a landing on this?
Speaker 6: Can we just read through it again? Council notes the
Speaker 6: following actions to undertaken by the administration. So I think
Speaker 6: that number eight is Can I go down to number eight?
Speaker 6: Number eight? We have already got that up in the
Speaker 6: dock point at the top the ornithologist, So we probably
Speaker 6: don't need it again, do we?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 6: Would you like to make nine slightly more progressive and
Speaker 6: forward looking? A report detailing the future management of wildlife
Speaker 6: in the city? Would that be help?
Speaker 8: No, it's really I do want to understand how we
Speaker 8: arrived at this particular point in time, and then my
Speaker 8: understanding would be there would be a report frohen the
Speaker 8: administration coming out. It's just so that we have our
Speaker 8: lessons learned on how we got to this situation, so
Speaker 8: that we can be better informed of what happened next time.
Speaker 9: Yeah, this is what it's like. Yeah, it's bad, right,
Speaker 9: Like we've got a whole bunch of birds running into things.
Speaker 9: Why wouldn't we have a look.
Speaker 8: At how we got here? The only way that you're
Speaker 8: going to have.
Speaker 6: I think that we've gone through this fairly extensively. Now,
Speaker 6: Can I just ask if people want to move into
Speaker 6: normal meeting procedures and take these one at a time. Council, I'm.
Speaker 14: Question if we are noting that the administration has those
Speaker 14: actions underway, and that is the sense of it, isn't
Speaker 14: the counselor is doing those actions. The actions that follow
Speaker 14: the dock points are also actions the administration has undertaken us.
Speaker 22: That correct, Yes, h.
Speaker 15: M hm.
Speaker 7: Oh, ruther in the school, stay at your all, it just.
Speaker 17: A day goes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't tact contact.
Speaker 17: Week, don't take week, panculation.
Speaker 13: The Russian home.
Speaker 6: Oh this is so sleep thing.
Speaker 21: Fie preparation uh for preparation all when move the publish
Speaker 21: week you say yeah.
Speaker 23: Stuff like y I probably group and when you others
Speaker 23: that's funny.
Speaker 6: Continue to the day's yeah yeah, uh did.
Speaker 2: You inclosion.
Speaker 1: Christmas?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 24: And on yelling prior.
Speaker 22: Rass all okay, come, that's good your ground counsel day,
Speaker 22: so you have to Yeah, so people.
Speaker 9: Agree much, thank you.
Speaker 8: We're in a bit of an impossible decision situation anyways,
Speaker 8: one that a politician ever wants to be.
Speaker 9: And I suppose we have two very bad outcomes.
Speaker 8: We have the tree muntains in Lee Street and very
Speaker 8: negatively impacting traders there, and I've spoken with traders there
Speaker 8: today who absolutely don't want to go back to what
Speaker 8: they saw before. Likewise, we can't allow the situation to
Speaker 8: continue in rundom Are given the occurrence that's there. These
Speaker 8: tree muntains have a very long Many of them have
Speaker 8: come from a very far away place in Papua New
Speaker 8: Guinea some of them, and I think we owe it
Speaker 8: to them to look after them. My assummation is that
Speaker 8: they enjoy some way they can roost, like a tree
Speaker 8: in between walled areas or a walled in area so
Speaker 8: that they are safer from prevators. And it seems like
Speaker 8: they would seek out alternative areas that are you know,
Speaker 8: match that description, which is potentially why they're not roosting
Speaker 8: in the botanic gardens for example. But merely my guess
Speaker 8: I think the issue would be is if we start
Speaker 8: putting nets over Rundall Mall, that they could move to
Speaker 8: Gurja Street or Hut Street, or we simply move this
Speaker 8: problem on to other places. I think that the public,
Speaker 8: in looking at this motion, will be assured that the
Speaker 8: City of Adelaide is taking every step necessary to address
Speaker 8: the issues that are occurring on Roundau more that we
Speaker 8: will also look to the future in terms of how
Speaker 8: we can address these issues in future. Ideally we can
Speaker 8: find a solution that will benefit the least street traders,
Speaker 8: but also the Rundall Mall and perhaps the tree months
Speaker 8: can showcase as a biodiversity icon in South Australian years
Speaker 8: to come. This will take a lot of work and
Speaker 8: it could actually be a coordinated effort across the city
Speaker 8: to net and encourage the birds to go into a
Speaker 8: more suitable location where they wish to wish to roost.
Speaker 8: This will take a lot of effort by the administration
Speaker 8: and by experts to solve this problem, but no doubt
Speaker 8: an important one. The Council had concerns. I suppose that
Speaker 8: they would move, but we didn't know exactly where they
Speaker 8: would move to. So I believe that this motion we'll
Speaker 8: send a clear signal to the people of South Australia
Speaker 8: that we are taking this issue very seriously, that we're
Speaker 8: moving forward on it, and that we will look to
Speaker 8: a long term solution for lee straight and run.
Speaker 6: The will thank you, sorry, councilor Martin.
Speaker 13: Lord me.
Speaker 14: Look, it pains me to say this, but the origins
Speaker 14: of this terrible tragedy are within this chamber. I was
Speaker 14: here when a former Councilor Hassam Abid, who was the
Speaker 14: leader of a team adelaide Lord Me, raised this initially
Speaker 14: in the chamber like a point of order.
Speaker 8: Like at a time like this, when the Council needs
Speaker 8: to come together, trying to attack.
Speaker 13: Is a point of order.
Speaker 3: I need to understan what is the act I'm making
Speaker 3: a point of order?
Speaker 9: He is just I'm making a point of order. I'm
Speaker 9: making it an order.
Speaker 13: It's Regulation twenty nine. I making Regulation twenty nine.
Speaker 8: At a time like this, I believe that it's in
Speaker 8: terms of the guiding principles of this Council, a time
Speaker 8: for us to come together, to celebrate what we have
Speaker 8: achieved as a council together and realize that we do
Speaker 8: have difficulties. But I think a time now where we
Speaker 8: need to look to leadership, not division, and we as
Speaker 8: a council needs to look to our future, not to
Speaker 8: our past, and not go and shit on past.
Speaker 6: Members loveefully speech about goodwill to all men, but can
Speaker 6: we carry on county?
Speaker 13: Yes, Lord.
Speaker 14: And it was in fact Councilor Davis who asked what
Speaker 14: the history was. I was obliging him and reminding him
Speaker 14: that it was the Deputy Lord Meyt at the time.
Speaker 14: Has abby I have or raised the issue, and I
Speaker 14: have point of order, Lord may I will ask, I will.
Speaker 13: Ask for Regulation twenty nine if he continued.
Speaker 6: I think, and it's fair to say, Counselor Davis, that
Speaker 6: this is the question that was part of your motion
Speaker 6: about the history and prepare them.
Speaker 8: It's well, okay, if I can clarify then then no,
Speaker 8: it's about the recent history of how we came to
Speaker 8: put the nets on lee straight and then moving it
Speaker 8: to run them more.
Speaker 9: The point of order is that i'd ask the member
Speaker 9: not to refer to me.
Speaker 8: There's been previous rulings by your Lordship of members not
Speaker 8: referring to each other in the chamber and referring to
Speaker 8: you only through the chair.
Speaker 9: He has to do the same name.
Speaker 8: Yes, he did mention my name, he said, Counselor Davis
Speaker 8: asked me to say this, so no, I didn't.
Speaker 6: I don't believe he said anything disparaging about you. We're
Speaker 6: all very grateful, We're very grateful for your leadership. Thank you,
Speaker 6: Counselor Martin.
Speaker 14: I always love it when the Lord Mayor look the
Speaker 14: history was. It came from this chamber. It was how
Speaker 14: Abiad who raised it and placed enormous pressure on the
Speaker 14: Council to do something. And for years, many years in fact,
Speaker 14: the Council did attempt to manage the problem. And when
Speaker 14: Councilor Aby had left, he passed the bat and the
Speaker 14: Councilor Abrahim today who successively raised motions in relation to
Speaker 14: Lee Street, and ultimately the Chamber pressured the administration to act.
Speaker 3: Just have a point of what the action was. I
Speaker 3: have a point of order.
Speaker 8: The it's what the councilor Martin would like to relitigate
Speaker 8: is not this motion. This motion deals with the current
Speaker 8: situation that's there, not the history of his personal gripes
Speaker 8: with his old colleagues. What we're looking to look at.
Speaker 9: This moment, this is I'm making a point of order.
Speaker 3: I'm making a point of order.
Speaker 9: I'm making a point of order.
Speaker 13: Thank you, Lord Mayor.
Speaker 14: It was pastor Councilor Abrahimzidae, who on behalf of Lee
Speaker 14: Street traders, raised it on many occasions, and frankly, the
Speaker 14: Chamber placed enormous pressure on the administration, which sought advice
Speaker 14: and acted on the advice of wildlife experts. In installing
Speaker 14: the netting, it has had adverse consequences. There is no
Speaker 14: question about that, and indeed, I don't see that there
Speaker 14: is an end in sight. However, however, we are, in
Speaker 14: spite of ourselves, moving to do the best we can
Speaker 14: in the circumstances.
Speaker 13: And my only regret is that.
Speaker 14: Councilor Davis hadn't asked the administration what it was doing before.
Speaker 3: A point of order.
Speaker 14: Before raising, Lord, members refer to each other with the interruption,
Speaker 14: I would like to move. I would like to move
Speaker 14: regulation twenty mins refer to me in respect of Councilor
Speaker 14: Davis breaching.
Speaker 9: Not to refer to me in his faith.
Speaker 6: I think that we're responding to a debate. So Counselor Martin,
Speaker 6: can you keep moving? You've got fifty four seconds.
Speaker 14: Oh thank you, Lord met Yes, it's always important to
Speaker 14: ask the administration for advice about how it's approaching these issues,
Speaker 14: and I must say, I'm just delighted to hear that
Speaker 14: there's been so much attention by the administration to the
Speaker 14: issue and so many attempts plainly to resolve it.
Speaker 13: I appreciate that.
Speaker 14: I'm sure that the ratepayers of the city of Adelaide
Speaker 14: will be pleased to hear that the Council has.
Speaker 13: Been acting for some time.
Speaker 14: It is important, however, that we find a solution to
Speaker 14: the issue, and I regret that though this will help,
Speaker 14: the longer story is that we need to find a
Speaker 14: solution that doesn't involve knitting and the apparent demise of
Speaker 14: birds in arundel Mare simply because we've diverted them there.
Speaker 14: I regret very much what's happened, and I trust that
Speaker 14: we find a solution.
Speaker 6: You, Counselor Snape, thank you, Lord Mayor.
Speaker 16: And I'm just going to start by actually acknowledging all
Speaker 16: the hard work that the staff has put in to
Speaker 16: this throughout well several years, but also in the last
Speaker 16: four to five weeks as we've seen these tragic deaths happen.
Speaker 16: I actually echo Counselor Martin's concerns and the pressure that
Speaker 16: was put on staff by a former team ad laid
Speaker 16: leader who saw Abiad and then we don't need to
Speaker 16: keep pressing the point and the papologies, Lord Mayor, and
Speaker 16: so now it's up to this council, this council to
Speaker 16: fix that mistake, and we are doing so. Shouldn't have
Speaker 16: been placed there in the first place. I certainly think so.
Speaker 16: I'm certainly sympathetic to the traders on Lee Street. But
Speaker 16: I do hope to see the nets removed next year,
Speaker 16: in time well in their entire entirety, for the next
Speaker 16: season of migrations. We can't see it. Let us happen again.
Speaker 16: We talk about being a green city, environmental city, a
Speaker 16: natural city surrounded by our parklands, and yet here we
Speaker 16: go with this situation. But as I said, that being said,
Speaker 16: I commend the staff on their hard work, their quick reaction,
Speaker 16: their conversations with the traders, the conversations with experts, and
Speaker 16: I really do despite it's happened, I commend the administration
Speaker 16: on what was a bad decision by team Adelaide. Thank
Speaker 16: you Lord.
Speaker 6: But can I just make this point? Can I just
Speaker 6: make this point that the notting was put in place
Speaker 6: last Can I counselor can you please be quiet? You
Speaker 6: don't need to help me. I'm making the point the
Speaker 6: netting was put in place last year in response to
Speaker 6: difficulties in Lee Street. There were unintended consequences, firstly of
Speaker 6: planting so many trees. As I say, we're victim of
Speaker 6: our own success here we've planted so many trees, we've
Speaker 6: created micro environments that were never there before, and then
Speaker 6: the unintended consequence is trying to protect our rate payers.
Speaker 6: So I think that we've many people have been involved,
Speaker 6: but at the end of the day, the administration have
Speaker 6: done the very best they can in difficult circumstances, trying
Speaker 6: to juggle everyone's wants and desires, to support the traders,
Speaker 6: to look after the birds, and actually support the volunteers.
Speaker 6: I've been absolutely overwhelmed by the care with which the
Speaker 6: volunteers have been dealt with. They have been treated with
Speaker 6: respect and helped and I just commend the administration for
Speaker 6: the negotiations and the work they put in. So seven
Speaker 6: Tripp then counselor.
Speaker 10: Jile Well, I'll be very brief at the risk of
Speaker 10: repeating some of what's already been said. Can I first
Speaker 10: just note the work of the staff but also the volunteers.
Speaker 10: I think the second point is it's not lost on
Speaker 10: me it's an ecologist by training, that we've got an
Speaker 10: important native species here, which is roosting in. Two different
Speaker 10: species have introduced true and I think, as you've said
Speaker 10: in some regards where we're working through the outcome of
Speaker 10: some of our successes in past tree planning. But the
Speaker 10: point I wanted to make is that's only going to
Speaker 10: continue in the future as we continue to put more
Speaker 10: trees in the city. And so the biggest lesson for
Speaker 10: me that's going to come out of these is how
Speaker 10: do we work together with scientists, with a department, with
Speaker 10: the community. Because we will see our city go up
Speaker 10: to thirty percent tree can it becover we'd expect we're
Speaker 10: going to create a whole lot more habitat And rather
Speaker 10: than seeing this as a divisive issue, it should be
Speaker 10: one where where celebrating the fact that we have this species.
Speaker 3: In the city.
Speaker 10: We note that these challenges and how we manage it,
Speaker 10: but we also recognize this sort of thing they continue
Speaker 10: again in the future, and how do we do it
Speaker 10: better in the future, particularly around the way we communicate
Speaker 10: our management actions.
Speaker 15: Just I would like us to reflect that the way
Speaker 15: that we pulled together this motion tonight was one where
Speaker 15: we actually went into problem solving mode. We acknowledged the
Speaker 15: work of the staff. We came to an agreement about
Speaker 15: what needs to be done in a really civilized way.
Speaker 15: So I hope that we can sort of like continue
Speaker 15: that as are the way that we go forward. I
Speaker 15: do think that we do have really tricky problems in
Speaker 15: the city when we're trying to encourage businesses to, you know,
Speaker 15: to get out there and have outdoor dining and create
Speaker 15: an atmosphere that's really beautiful for visitors and for locals
Speaker 15: to eat and drink in. And we have trees planted,
Speaker 15: and we have beautiful creatures coming in because we planted
Speaker 15: our trees, and how do we balance all those needs?
Speaker 15: So balancing is a major issue for us as a
Speaker 15: city council that many councils don't have that same issue.
Speaker 15: So it's been a great step forward, I think to
Speaker 15: discuss this issue in a civilized manner and to come
Speaker 15: to an agreement around what acknowledging what needs to be done,
Speaker 15: and having a bit of a think about having a
Speaker 15: strategy moving forward that takes on those tricky problems, those
Speaker 15: wicked problems in a more sophisticated way. Acknowledging that just
Speaker 15: responding to some complaints about something or some difficulties that
Speaker 15: some group is having is not the way to go
Speaker 15: if we all and if we don't also consider the
Speaker 15: ramifications and the environment around that. So I think this
Speaker 15: is a really good motion and shows that we're on
Speaker 15: track to dealing with those tricky problems. And I also
Speaker 15: think it's amazingly exciting to have these little birds in
Speaker 15: our city. I didn't even know what a tree Martin
Speaker 15: was to like join this council, and now I do,
Speaker 15: and now I know a hell of a lot more
Speaker 15: about them, and I think it would be really great
Speaker 15: if we could play an active role as a council
Speaker 15: in making sure that everyone goes through that experience and
Speaker 15: we all get to really love our little tree mountains
Speaker 15: and become something that something that people come to Adelaide
Speaker 15: to have a look at and come to Lee Street
Speaker 15: to have a look up at as well.
Speaker 8: I would you like for some up Thank you very much,
Speaker 8: counselor Sea Troupe and Counsel Jiles for your your comments tonight.
Speaker 8: I do think that you know, there are other places
Speaker 8: in the world which have taken quite negative initially what
Speaker 8: they thought was a negative animal activity in the city
Speaker 8: and turn that into a tourist destination. I think in America,
Speaker 8: I think it might be our namesake. In fact, they
Speaker 8: had a problem with bats and turn that into a
Speaker 8: significant tourist destination of about eight million dollars with the
Speaker 8: income from the state.
Speaker 9: I did raise that idea with some of the Lee
Speaker 9: Street traders. Not a big fan, remain in the hope.
Speaker 8: I do hope that this motion will show leadership from
Speaker 8: the City of Adelaide in terms of what we're going
Speaker 8: to do going forward. And I really do think the
Speaker 8: volunteers who have answered the call and gone out of
Speaker 8: their way and done everything they need to do. I
Speaker 8: think at least five per night who were there looking
Speaker 8: after the birds, taking them to the vets, and also
Speaker 8: those vets who are trying to nurse these poor birds
Speaker 8: back to health. I think we've learned a lot as
Speaker 8: a council from this. Ultimately, this was our decision. We
Speaker 8: made the decision, we were brief done it last year,
Speaker 8: and the responsibility whether as me you have made the
Speaker 8: decision or administration, the buck does start with this council.
Speaker 8: In this, with this chamber, I believe that we have
Speaker 8: a good way forward and I think that this motion
Speaker 8: will go a long way to inform in the public
Speaker 8: on terms of what the council is doing to liaise
Speaker 8: with key interest groups to make sure that we can
Speaker 8: improve the plight of the bird, and I suppose next
Speaker 8: year we will turn our minds to when they returned
Speaker 8: to Adelaide, potentially with climate thirty one. We've copp thirty
Speaker 8: one and we can showcase them and have a suitable
Speaker 8: place for them to roost in future. And I'd also
Speaker 8: like to thank Lord Mayor for your efforts behind the
Speaker 8: scenes in terms of dealing with the administration and coordinating
Speaker 8: efforts and often that as a signific amount of public
Speaker 8: answers to what's happening. But I commend the administration on
Speaker 8: their busy faeton what they've been doing to solve this
Speaker 8: very alarming issue.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Thank you, Counselor. Just before the vote, can
Speaker 6: I just recommend seeing the murmuration, which is a wonderful
Speaker 6: word and is a description of the way they fly
Speaker 6: in in great flocks that weave and coil. So all
Speaker 6: those in favor those against human animus, thank you Counselor
Speaker 6: Davis for sorting them. Questions on notice. We have several
Speaker 6: which are on your questions without notice. No, shall we
Speaker 6: move on there? Can I ask someone to move the
Speaker 6: exclusion for Item twenty two moved my council jibs signify
Speaker 6: Counselor Martin, all those in favor, that's carriaging aanimously, and
Speaker 6: can I have someone to move the exclusion of twenty
Speaker 6: three move by Counselor Martin's seconded by Counselor Davis. All
Speaker 6: those in favor, let's carried. Thank you members. So could
Speaker 6: I ask members of the public who are in the
Speaker 6: gallery to be to become absent now I don't know
Speaker 6: if there are any members.
Speaker 25: All right, good morning everyone. I'm Alan Seckel, vice Chair
Speaker 25: of the Translink Board, and i'd like to welcome you
Speaker 25: to Translinks March twenty twenty five open Board meeting. Thank
Speaker 25: you all for joining us virtually today. I like to
Speaker 25: call the meeting to order and begin by saying that
Speaker 25: we respect the Indigenous nations within Metro Vancouver and acknowledge
Speaker 25: all First Nations, Inuit and met people for their continued resilience,
Speaker 25: sustainable stewardship, and as active members of the community for
Speaker 25: generations to come. We recognize that in planning and managing
Speaker 25: the region's transportation system, we have a role to play
Speaker 25: in supporting reconciliation with Indigenous peoples. Before we get started
Speaker 25: with the formalities the meeting today, i'd like to welcome
Speaker 25: Darlene Hyde, who joined the Translaning Board on January first,
Speaker 25: twenty twenty five. Darlene is a seasoned business leader with
Speaker 25: over thirty years of executive and board experience across real estate, energy, insurance,
Speaker 25: and telecommunications in both the public and private sectors. She
Speaker 25: currently serves as chair of the Stabilization's Central Credit Union,
Speaker 25: chair of McGill's Women in Leadership in Philanthropy and Vancouver,
Speaker 25: and as a board member for the Canada Mortgage and
Speaker 25: Housing Corporation. Previously, Darlene was CEO of the BC Real
Speaker 25: Estate Association, Executive director of the Metro Vancouver Commercial Real
Speaker 25: Estate Devas Element Association, and Interim CEO of the Alberta
Speaker 25: Insurance Council. She was recognized as the twenty twenty CEO
Speaker 25: of the Year in the nonprofit sector by Business Vancouver,
Speaker 25: and she also led the BC Real Estate Association to
Speaker 25: be named a top national employer. Welcome Darling. We look
Speaker 25: forward to all of your ideas and contributions, so thank you.
Speaker 25: Moving to the agenda before we proceed, are there any
Speaker 25: items on the consent agenda that any director wishes to
Speaker 25: remove from consent for discussion? All right? Scene none. I
Speaker 25: will now introduce Gordon Harris, who will present today's safety moment.
Speaker 26: Thanks very much, Chair. British Columbia experience is about twenty
Speaker 26: five hundred earthquakes a year. Unfortunately, the three earthquakes that
Speaker 26: rattled our region over the last few weeks were relatively
Speaker 26: mild ones, but they are a reminder that we all
Speaker 26: live in a seismically active area and we need to
Speaker 26: be prepared in case the next one is more severe.
Speaker 26: Being prepared means having a plan, so start with family
Speaker 26: and friends and an emergency communication plan. Plan for where
Speaker 26: you and your circle can all safely meet up if
Speaker 26: you get separated. Make sure everyone has an emergency kit,
Speaker 26: one stocked with about three days worth of water and
Speaker 26: non perishable foods, some healthy snacks, maybe a first aid kit,
Speaker 26: a battery, radio, and a cell phone charger. It is
Speaker 26: always a good idea, no matter what, to make sure
Speaker 26: your cell phone is fully charged during an earthquake. Drop
Speaker 26: cover and hold. We've all heard that for years. Drop
Speaker 26: down so you don't risk falling over. Take cover under
Speaker 26: something solid like a table or desk. Hold on to
Speaker 26: that table or desk or other solid object. Stay away
Speaker 26: from windows to avoid broken glass, and if you're outside,
Speaker 26: try to get to an open area away from buildings,
Speaker 26: power lines, and trees. If you're on transit, stay seated,
Speaker 26: and if you're standing, hold on tight to the handrails
Speaker 26: and follow the operators instructions. If you're driving, pull over
Speaker 26: when it's safe to do so, and in an open area,
Speaker 26: stay in your car with your seat belt on and
Speaker 26: the engine off until the shaking stops. And listen to
Speaker 26: local news for emergency information and updates. And finally, take
Speaker 26: the time now to look around to pick a safe
Speaker 26: place in your home and your workplace, put a pair
Speaker 26: of sturdy shoes under your bed, talk to your family
Speaker 26: and friends about their plan so everyone is ready just
Speaker 26: in case the next one is a bigger one.
Speaker 25: Thanks very much, Thank you, Gordon. So we've got lots
Speaker 25: on the agenda today, so we'll proceed to our first
Speaker 25: it in which are public delegations. We've got three people
Speaker 25: who have enrolled for delegations and the first one is
Speaker 25: Gabriel Dalton. Gabriel, are you.
Speaker 23: Get them here?
Speaker 25: I good, So thank you very much for taking the
Speaker 25: time to come today and share your ideas with this table.
Speaker 25: You have about five minutes to make your presentation and
Speaker 25: I'll give you a gentle reminder if you get close
Speaker 25: to that, it's all.
Speaker 27: Over to you.
Speaker 23: Thank you very much. Good morning, Chair and members of
Speaker 23: the board. My name is Gabriel Dalton and I'm the
Speaker 23: founder and CEO of Wastes of Change, Inc. An off
Speaker 23: for profit dedicated to digital sustainability. I'm sixteen years old
Speaker 23: and part of Generation Z, generation that will inherit the
Speaker 23: consequences of today's environmental decisions. For years, I've been working
Speaker 23: on making websites more energy efficient and raising awareness about
Speaker 23: the environmental impact of the Internet. I've led initiatives that
Speaker 23: have resulted in the planting of nearly nine thousand trees
Speaker 23: across thirty different countries and the prevention of seven thousand
Speaker 23: plastic bottles from entering the ocean. Sustainability is a passion
Speaker 23: of mine. There's one area of sustainability that often gets
Speaker 23: overlooked the digital world. Every time you visit a website,
Speaker 23: stream your favorite movie, or send an email to your grandma,
Speaker 23: it requires energy, and that energy use adds up. To
Speaker 23: put it into perspective, the energy consumption from translink dot
Speaker 23: CAA's estimated five million monthly visitors creates a digital footprint
Speaker 23: equivalent to driving electric vehicle over five hundred and sixty
Speaker 23: thousand kilometers, which is the same as completing more than
Speaker 23: one thousand round trips on your full rapid bus between
Speaker 23: UBC and Joystation and taking the six daily bus on
Speaker 23: over five thousand round trips between downtown and the West End.
Speaker 23: The good news as a way to reduce this impact
Speaker 23: without changing how people use a site, just by optimizing
Speaker 23: the things that are already there today, I'm going to
Speaker 23: show you how Translink can cut its digital emissions without
Speaker 23: sacrifices and performance, accessibility or user experience. All are reinforcing
Speaker 23: its role as a sustainability leader in metro Vancouver. A
Speaker 23: lot of people don't realize this, but the Internet is
Speaker 23: responsible for about three point seven percent of global carbon emissions.
Speaker 23: That's about the same as the airline industry. Every web
Speaker 23: page reload requires electricity to process and transfer data. This
Speaker 23: means that large, unoptimized websites end up consuming far more
Speaker 23: energy than necessary, and the thing is this is entirely avoidable.
Speaker 23: With better design choices, websites can be optimized to use
Speaker 23: far less energy while still delivering the same information and experience.
Speaker 23: To users. I've conducted a comprehensive analysis of translink dot
Speaker 23: C eight using sustainability tracking tools, and the results who
Speaker 23: are simply concerning. Each visit to the website generates approximately
Speaker 23: zero point seventy four grands at CO two, which might
Speaker 23: not seem like a lot at first. However, with an
Speaker 23: estimated five million visits per month, this website admits nearly
Speaker 23: thirty four thousand kill grands at CO two annually. To
Speaker 23: put that into perspective, the energy use of the current
Speaker 23: website is equivalent to charging nearly seven point three million
Speaker 23: smartphones and the carbon absorbed by over fifteen hundred trees
Speaker 23: in a year. And why is this happening? Large inefficient images,
Speaker 23: excessive JavaScript files and unnecessary fonts. Every additional megabyte increases
Speaker 23: energy use not just on translit servers, but also on
Speaker 23: the device the devices of every user app exiting the site.
Speaker 23: I want to be clear that Translate's website is already
Speaker 23: well optimized in many ways. It's fast, accessible and served,
Speaker 23: and essential public function. But the reality is it could
Speaker 23: be much cleaner and more sustainable by implementing targeted improvements
Speaker 23: such as compressing images, removing unnecessary scripts, and optimizing hosting
Speaker 23: infrastructure vendsling can significantly reduce the energy the website's energy
Speaker 23: consumption and carbon footprint. Studies show that optimizing images alone
Speaker 23: can reduce data transfer by to thirty percent.
Speaker 28: Well.
Speaker 23: Eliminating unnecessary scripts and streamlining codes can further cut down
Speaker 23: with usage and processing power. That's the equivalent of removing
Speaker 23: thousands of kilograms of CO two every month, and it
Speaker 23: wouldn't just be in an environmental win. It would mean
Speaker 23: faster loading times, which improves the experience for all trans
Speaker 23: users though we're bandwidth costs, saving money on, saving money
Speaker 23: on infrastructure, and a stronger sustainability reputation aligning with TransLink's
Speaker 23: digital footprint with its clean ener machine transit goals. At
Speaker 23: the at the end of the day, Translink is leading
Speaker 23: Metro Vancouver towards a more sustainable future. But this is
Speaker 23: a major blind spot, one that is easily fixable. If
Speaker 23: we don't act, the emissions will keep on adding up
Speaker 23: with every single page view. But with the right changes,
Speaker 23: Translink can set the standard for sustainable website design in
Speaker 23: public transit. In conclusion, now is the time to take action.
Speaker 21: I encourage you all.
Speaker 23: To explore my full sustainability case study and tailored recommendations
Speaker 23: at Gabriel Dalton dot com slash Translink. Thank you for
Speaker 23: your time and consideration today and have an amazing rest
Speaker 23: of the meeting.
Speaker 25: Thanks Gabriel, really admire your passion for the environment and
Speaker 25: I'll assure you that your ideas will be shared with
Speaker 25: the right people at Translink. And thanks for coming today.
Speaker 25: We'll now proceed to our next speaker, who is Elfrin Ordanza. Hello, Elfrid,
Speaker 25: are you there?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 1: Can you hear me?
Speaker 25: Okay? Now, oil friend? Yes, Thanks, go ahead. You've got
Speaker 25: about five minutes and I'll give you a gentle reminder
Speaker 25: if you get closer that time.
Speaker 1: Hello, and thank you Bard for giving me the opportunity
Speaker 1: to express my concerns and beliefs on the transit system
Speaker 1: here in Metro Vancouver. I want to talk about the
Speaker 1: fair system we currently have. The three zone fair system
Speaker 1: dates back to the days of BC Transit, well before
Speaker 1: Translink became the transit agency for the Metro bank for
Speaker 1: Region in nineteen ninety nine. In particular, for someone who
Speaker 1: has to travel between two stations with a fair zone border,
Speaker 1: it costs more than what one that has to travel
Speaker 1: between two stations without a fair zone border. For example,
Speaker 1: it costs three dollars twenty cents to travel between Patterson
Speaker 1: and Metrotown stations, but it costs four dollars and sixty
Speaker 1: five cents to travel between Patterson and Enjoy stations. That's
Speaker 1: the one dollar forty five cent difference between traveling in
Speaker 1: these directions. This logic behind this fair structure does not
Speaker 1: make any sense. On top of that, Transling has done
Speaker 1: a fair review a few years back in hopes to
Speaker 1: change the fare system. It was said to eliminate the
Speaker 1: fare zones and implement distance based fares on Skytrain, SeaBus
Speaker 1: and future rapid transit. That was all said in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: But what year is it now? It's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: This current fare structure is outdated and it has to
Speaker 1: be changed sooner rather than much later. I'm not the
Speaker 1: only one to wonder why the fair pricing method hasn't changed,
Speaker 1: aside from the fare increases that seem to be happening
Speaker 1: almost every single year. It's almost twenty six years since
Speaker 1: Translinic took responsibility of the region's transit network. We even
Speaker 1: have the technology such as the Compass card system to
Speaker 1: change it. I don't see the fairness of this current
Speaker 1: FRAS structure. I've been long hoping for change. Now, even
Speaker 1: that we have the technology, I'm wondering if Translin is
Speaker 1: willing and able to make the change. Has it not
Speaker 1: been a priority since Translink takeover in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering where the opportunity opportunity was lost. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening, and I appreciate you for your time.
Speaker 25: Thanks Alfrid, I appreciate your input and your passion for
Speaker 25: their transportation system in Metro Vancouver. I can assure you
Speaker 25: that your ideas will be shared with the right people
Speaker 25: at Translink, and thank you so much for coming today.
Speaker 25: And our third and last speaker is.
Speaker 29: I appreciate you for your time, thanks alfriend, and your
Speaker 29: passion for.
Speaker 26: The transportations cocover.
Speaker 25: I can shure you that your ideas will be shared
Speaker 25: with the people, and.
Speaker 17: Thank you so much to that.
Speaker 25: All right, without interesting repetition for me, it is we'll
Speaker 25: move to Nathan dividerates over to you. Nathan, you have
Speaker 25: about five minutes, and I'll give you a gentle reminder
Speaker 25: to people of that time.
Speaker 17: Hallold, do you hear me?
Speaker 8: You do?
Speaker 25: Go ahead?
Speaker 17: Oh? Okay, well, thank you the directors of the Board
Speaker 17: of Handling. There are many items on this agenda. I
Speaker 17: talked about the unfair first start to last year, but
Speaker 17: nothing has changed the same fair stature that in twenty
Speaker 17: fifteen your own CEO, Katy McLay acknowledge was unfair. Ken
Speaker 17: Howdy t Ansling spokesmen before becoming an MP concerned no
Speaker 17: changes to many good fell savings in twenty fourteen like
Speaker 17: the family and then holiday pass that as usual, he
Speaker 17: was wrong and he has done nothing to help Translink
Speaker 17: six hundred million dollars operation deficit. While an MP. Now
Speaker 17: he's retired without any legacy. It is the same as
Speaker 17: many adult Transling staff, directors of the board, and civic
Speaker 17: and provincial politicians. They've done very little or nothing to
Speaker 17: help a transit system and will have no legacy. It's
Speaker 17: been forty one years since the FIR structure was implemented
Speaker 17: in nineteen eighty four. Vancouver transit riders that are the
Speaker 17: account for fifty percent of the riders are paying way
Speaker 17: above their fair shale of the transit budget. On Friday
Speaker 17: August first, twenty twenty five, you might not receive the
Speaker 17: taxes collected on your behalf by all the municipalities. They
Speaker 17: all displeased and outraged at Translink. Pardlink is the worst
Speaker 17: in Canada and our fells, compared to the sixth largest
Speaker 17: system in Canada, are the highest. Just read the cut
Speaker 17: twenty twenty three fact book. We are now in a
Speaker 17: similar situation to twenty twenty where staff layoff and service
Speaker 17: cuts were proposed. Minutes tell Selena Robinson managed to stop
Speaker 17: the layoffs and cuts. However, former CEO Kevin Desmond tricked
Speaker 17: her and adults by robbing Peter to pay Paul. However,
Speaker 17: Selena Robinson has a legacy of being the second poor
Speaker 17: transit minister in fifty years. The first one was the
Speaker 17: late Jim Lomeer in the mid nineteen seventies. So let's
Speaker 17: look again at all the many inequities, highest average fail
Speaker 17: in Canada. Complicated unfail trees on fieses tructure since nineteen
Speaker 17: eighty four, no special, free or very low fails for
Speaker 17: seniors teens thirteen to eighteen years old, low income nineteen
Speaker 17: to sixty four. Different fills for buses versus trained and SeaBus,
Speaker 17: no faire integration with BC Transit, no fail caps, no
Speaker 17: printed timetables or reference copies available at library. Longest average
Speaker 17: trip time in Canada, very limited overnight bus services, inconsistent
Speaker 17: hours of service on many bus routes and sea bus.
Speaker 17: Very limited regional rail service, no was rooms, limited handed
Speaker 17: out service, very few bike packades station, no funding for
Speaker 17: bus shelter cancellation of over two hundred bus stop about
Speaker 17: fifteen percent of all bus stops in the city of Vancouver.
Speaker 17: One of the only big transit systems is out on
Speaker 17: demand transit also called demand response transit. Lower hours of
Speaker 17: service per capitat and whistle Victoria, Montreal and Toronto. We
Speaker 17: still have transfer the only valid for ninety minutes, while
Speaker 17: many other transit systems have one hundred and twenty minutes.
Speaker 17: You are not supporting the BC Federation of label connecting
Speaker 17: BC plan with doubling of the bus fleet in three
Speaker 17: yels and tripling in six years. Do you even know
Speaker 17: that three out of the seven members of the London
Speaker 17: Transit Commission in Ontario resigned earlier this and now the
Speaker 17: LTC is disbanded. So thank you for listening to me
Speaker 17: reminder of the longdown times of condition to Antelio.
Speaker 30: Resign Alan You're on mute.
Speaker 25: Thanks Nathan. We appreciate your passion for the transportation system
Speaker 25: and as always, your ideas will be shared within Translink.
Speaker 25: And thank you for coming today. And that concludes our
Speaker 25: public delegations for this meeting. So thank you for everyone
Speaker 25: for taking the time to speak to us and share
Speaker 25: your perspectives. That takes us item three on the agenda,
Speaker 25: which is the CEO Report, and I'll turn it over
Speaker 25: to our CEO, Kevin Quinn.
Speaker 29: Great well, good morning everyone, Thanks so much, and I
Speaker 29: also do want to offer a warm welcome to our
Speaker 29: newest member of the board, Darlene Hyde. Darlene, welcome and
Speaker 29: thanks all so much for having me today. It's great
Speaker 29: to be here. In my report today, I'll be covering
Speaker 29: the opening of Capston Station, our latest public engagements on
Speaker 29: the Bus Rapid Transit program and the Barrard Peninsula Area
Speaker 29: Transportation Plan, and our partnership with BC Hydro to electrify
Speaker 29: Translink park and rides. Today we're also releasing our twenty
Speaker 29: twenty four Accountability Report, our annual report that highlights progress
Speaker 29: on social, environmental and financial responsibility and features key achievements
Speaker 29: across the enterprise. Next side, please this year's accountability report
Speaker 29: really underscores our continued commitment to providing essential transportation services
Speaker 29: to Metro Vancouver, despite challenges from rapid regional growth in
Speaker 29: the last few years, overcrowding and financial constraints. Thanks to
Speaker 29: the short term funding provided by the twenty two twenty
Speaker 29: four Investment Plan, we made modest but meaningful improvements to
Speaker 29: the transit system to address overcrowding and reduce travel times.
Speaker 29: This included launching the Our six rapid bus, advancing important
Speaker 29: initiatives like extending Route six point nine to better serve
Speaker 29: the Twasson First Nation community, and working with local government
Speaker 29: partners to create safer, more pedestrian friendly streets, really promoting
Speaker 29: active transportation and Plus, for the second year in a row,
Speaker 29: we successfully reduced in service fleet greenhouse gas emissions by
Speaker 29: approximately twelve percent through renewable fuels, while continuing to invest
Speaker 29: in zero emissions and to do our part to strengthen
Speaker 29: our financial sustainability. We unlocked new revenue streams through the
Speaker 29: real estate development and transit friendly employer programs, and we
Speaker 29: realized ninety million dollars in annual efficiencies identified through the
Speaker 29: Management Action Plan next slide. Please, another important milestone from
Speaker 29: twenty twenty four was the opening of the new caps
Speaker 29: Skytrain station on the Canada Line, a huge milestone for
Speaker 29: customers traveling to and from Richmond. The second time we've
Speaker 29: constructed an additional skytrain station to serve an existing line.
Speaker 29: Capston helps deliver more efficient, rapid transit in the rapidly
Speaker 29: growing Capston Village area of Richmond, expected to be home
Speaker 29: to roughly sixteen thousand residents as the area sees rapid growth.
Speaker 29: The new station is the result of an innovative agreement
Speaker 29: between Translink and the City of Richmond, established through a
Speaker 29: precedent setting funding model involving the city and Capston Village developers,
Speaker 29: where over half the construction costs for Capston Station came
Speaker 29: from developer contributions. Translink worked closely with the City of
Speaker 29: Richmond on station design with the community in mind. This
Speaker 29: model is an excellent example of what we can do
Speaker 29: when we work together to respond to rapid growth. And
Speaker 29: it was great standing alongside director's Cunningham, Howard and Sandu,
Speaker 29: as well as Mayors Brody and Harvey as we opened
Speaker 29: this new station for our customers, and I'm so excited
Speaker 29: to continue to see the community benefit from this new
Speaker 29: transit connection. Thanks slide please. In January, we also took
Speaker 29: a really important step forward with the Bus Rapid Transit Program,
Speaker 29: highlighting routes and station locations for two of our projects
Speaker 29: in Surrey, Maple Ridge and the Township of Langley. Our
Speaker 29: BRT program will improve connections to growing communities, key destinations
Speaker 29: and transit hubs in collaboration with our local government partners,
Speaker 29: and as you know, BRT is key to unlocking connected
Speaker 29: communities and access to opportunity for both workers and employers.
Speaker 29: More than two hundred thousand residents and one hundred thousand
Speaker 29: jobs are within walking distance of these corridors, further supporting
Speaker 29: economic growth, affordability, and of course, housing development. We asked
Speaker 29: for community input on the BRT program, including key features
Speaker 29: like weather protected stations and real time information displays, which
Speaker 29: were identified by the public as top priorities in last
Speaker 29: summer's public engagement, and as part of this recent engagement,
Speaker 29: we launched a survey which was completed by nearly fifteen
Speaker 29: thousand respondents with strong representation from BRT communities. We also
Speaker 29: are focused very much on the North Shore BRT and
Speaker 29: additional engagement for the Metro town to North Shore. BRT
Speaker 29: is anticipated for later this year. Overall feedback that we're
Speaker 29: receiving is positive, with a strong majority majority of respondents
Speaker 29: believing BRT will improve transportation in our region. Next slide please.
Speaker 29: We also recently sought public feedback on Phase two of
Speaker 29: the Barrard Area Barrard Peninsula Area Transport Plant, which identifies
Speaker 29: transportation improvements in this specific area of the region guided
Speaker 29: by Transport twenty fifty and Access for Everyone. Building on
Speaker 29: insights from Phase one, where over four thousand residents, workers
Speaker 29: and traveler shared how they use the transportation network, Translink
Speaker 29: sought feedback on proposed actions for transit, cycling, walking, and
Speaker 29: goods movement, including nearly sixty potential bus route changes, and
Speaker 29: this feedback will really help shape the final area transport
Speaker 29: plan set for release in twenty twenty six. During our
Speaker 29: Phase two engagement, we received more than forty two hundred
Speaker 29: survey responses, We completed operator engagements at Vancouver, Hamilton and
Speaker 29: Burnaby transit centers, and we held thirty community events that
Speaker 29: reached more than sixteen hundred members of the public. And
Speaker 29: while proposed projects are currently unfunded, Translink will continue working
Speaker 29: with local regional and provincial partners, including First Nations communities,
Speaker 29: to refine and prioritize these proposals based on public interest
Speaker 29: and future funding opportunities. Next five Please, in partnership with
Speaker 29: BC Hydro, Translink, has launched two new electric vehicle fast
Speaker 29: charging hubs at park and ride locations in Port Coquitlam
Speaker 29: and South Surrey, making it even easier for EV users
Speaker 29: to incorporate transit into their daily commutes. These new hubs
Speaker 29: provide space for up to thirty eight evs to charge
Speaker 29: simultaneously and offer a mix of level two and one
Speaker 29: hundred eighty kilowat chargers to meet different charging needs. Level
Speaker 29: two chargers are perfect for transit riders who want to
Speaker 29: charge their EV while commuting, while the one hundred eighty
Speaker 29: kilowat chargers provide a fast charging option for those needing
Speaker 29: to charge right away. And by expanding EV charging infrastructure,
Speaker 29: Translink is helping to build a more sustainable and convenient
Speaker 29: transportation network that supports the growing number of EV drivers
Speaker 29: in Metro Vancouver. Next side Place. This past Friday, the
Speaker 29: Government of Canada committed to providing one hundred and fifty
Speaker 29: million dollars in annual capital funding for Translink over the
Speaker 29: next decade through the Metro Regional Agreement stream of the
Speaker 29: Canada Public Transit Fund, and this funding commitment is conditional
Speaker 29: on an executed agree signed by all parties. We continue
Speaker 29: to work with government staff to get clarity on the
Speaker 29: timing for assigned agreement and to understand what impact the
Speaker 29: upcoming federal election could have. I do want to thank
Speaker 29: the Government of Canada for their commitment to public transportation.
Speaker 29: This announcement really reinforces public transit's importance to the region
Speaker 29: and the economy, and we look forward to continuing to
Speaker 29: work with the federal government to keep expanding transit to
Speaker 29: support the growing needs of Metro Vancouver residents. While this
Speaker 29: funding commitment is welcome news, I do think it's important
Speaker 29: to understand that it does not solve our six hundred
Speaker 29: million dollar annual operating funding shortfall. We continue to work
Speaker 29: with all levels of government to secure funding for the
Speaker 29: Access for Everyone plan, and separately to find a sustainable
Speaker 29: funding model to solve our operating funding shortfall. Next line, Please,
Speaker 29: before closing today, I'd be remiss if I didn't take
Speaker 29: a moment to acknowledge that last week was transit operator
Speaker 29: and worker Appreciation Day, a day is set to rerectize
Speaker 29: the incredibly dedicated transit employees who keep our communities connected
Speaker 29: every day. And from bus operators and skytrain attendance to mechanics,
Speaker 29: maintenance crews and dispatchers, our frontline teams work tirelessly, rain
Speaker 29: or shine to ensure safe, reliable, and efficient service across
Speaker 29: Metro Vancouver. This year, we asked customers to join us
Speaker 29: in recognizing our frontline employees and we got just so
Speaker 29: many responses sharing heartwarming stories about how our teams don't
Speaker 29: just move people, they support businesses, they bring families together,
Speaker 29: and they contribute to a more sustainable region. And thanks
Speaker 29: to all those who rode in and helped put a
Speaker 29: smile on so many of our team spaces last week.
Speaker 29: Next slide please, that concludes my report. Thank you so
Speaker 29: much for your time today, and I'm happy to answer
Speaker 29: any questions that you may have.
Speaker 25: Thank you, Thanks Kevin. Do any board members have any
Speaker 25: questions or comments about Heaven's presentation see none, Thanks Kevin.
Speaker 25: And We'll then move to a report from the VC
Speaker 25: Rapid Transit Company and I'll turn it to Sandy Zion,
Speaker 25: the president and general manager.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Director Cycle and Cherry Cunningham. I'm happy to
Speaker 2: give you an update from VCRTC. We have a lot
Speaker 2: going on at Skytrain as usual and really pleased to
Speaker 2: give you a taste of everything we have on our
Speaker 2: box next slide please, in addition to my comments on
Speaker 2: delivering service, preparing for our future and our work culture,
Speaker 2: today i'll give you a taste of our twenty twenty
Speaker 2: five business plan. But if we flip to the next slide,
Speaker 2: I will be starting with a very exciting development at
Speaker 2: our end, which is that the Mark fives are now
Speaker 2: testing during revenue service. This is a really important milestone
Speaker 2: for us. It started a couple of weekends ago where
Speaker 2: we are running the trains still in test mode, so
Speaker 2: no customers on board, running the trains in amongst our
Speaker 2: other revenue trains during service. This is a really important
Speaker 2: step in making sure that the new trains interact well
Speaker 2: with the other trains on the system and all our
Speaker 2: other automatic train control systems and communications. So far, so good.
Speaker 2: The early indications from the tests are very promising and
Speaker 2: we are still on track to introducing the Mark fives
Speaker 2: into revenue service in the first.
Speaker 13: Half of this year.
Speaker 2: The Mark fives will become the backbone of our fleet,
Speaker 2: and so we're really excited to approach this milestone and
Speaker 2: be able to offer larger, more comfortable trains with more
Speaker 2: capacity for our customers. Next slide please. In February this year,
Speaker 2: we introduced our twenty twenty five business Plan for BCRTC.
Speaker 2: This is the document that we share with all our employees.
Speaker 2: It's digital and it allows us to all make sure
Speaker 2: that we all working on similar initiatives, coordinated across the organization,
Speaker 2: breaking down silos to make sure that we're delivering on
Speaker 2: what is coming in front of us. Some of the
Speaker 2: very key items that will be occupying us in the
Speaker 2: next twelve months include modernizing our maintenance division to be
Speaker 2: more preventive rather than reactive, preparing for the huge event
Speaker 2: next year, FIFA twenty twenty six coming to our region.
Speaker 2: I mentioned launching the Mark fives into service, and we
Speaker 2: have a couple of new facilities coming online which will
Speaker 2: really change how BCRTC is doing its work. We also
Speaker 2: have initiatives on our culture and training. All of that
Speaker 2: is documented in our business plan. It's our one stop
Speaker 2: shop for everything important going on at PCRTC and also
Speaker 2: our way of working across silos and across divisions, just
Speaker 2: for common initiatives that we want to make progress on
Speaker 2: next Live please, our metrics remain very strong, really happy
Speaker 2: to report that our customer satisfaction ratings, service delivery, on time,
Speaker 2: on time performance are all trending in the right direction.
Speaker 2: I'll point out our escalator and elevating elevator teams are
Speaker 2: doing phenomenal work and doing preventive maintenance to keep our
Speaker 2: elevating devices in a state of good repair. Our rail
Speaker 2: grinding program in twenty twenty four caught up after our
Speaker 2: hot summer and one hundred and ten kilometers of rail
Speaker 2: grinding to improve noise and reduce the level of noise
Speaker 2: that we impose on the region. And our boardings continue
Speaker 2: to increase. We had a significant jump in boardings in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Early numbers in twenty twenty five are
Speaker 2: also showing continued increase and boardings on Skytrain an old
Speaker 2: testament to a region that really wants more Skytrain service,
Speaker 2: and as we see improved density and increased housing around
Speaker 2: our stations, we are finding the customer responding to our
Speaker 2: product and driving Skytrain more and more. Our growth in
Speaker 2: Skytrain boardings is well exceeding the population increase in the region.
Speaker 9: Next slide.
Speaker 2: Please, we did have some snow, one significant snow event
Speaker 2: in February. Our snow plan performed really well this year.
Speaker 2: Our team was very well prepared. We learned something new
Speaker 2: from every snow event. If you recall in February, the
Speaker 2: challenge this year was very difficult to predict snow. We
Speaker 2: had different predictions of different amounts of snow on different days.
Speaker 2: Sometimes the snow arrived when it was not predicted. At
Speaker 2: other times it was predicted and did not arrive, keeping
Speaker 2: our team on its stoes, and that lasted for about
Speaker 2: a week again off again snow. So we took all
Speaker 2: these learnings in as to when do immobilize, when do
Speaker 2: we demobilize, and how do we remain alert when we
Speaker 2: have these very marginal conditions which are difficult to predict.
Speaker 2: By and large, the system performed really well. The teams
Speaker 2: did excellent work and keeping Skytin moving and we, of
Speaker 2: course we're all in all our learnings into next year's
Speaker 2: winter plan. Next slide. In terms of other state of
Speaker 2: good repair items, one of the most noticeable projects is
Speaker 2: we have a very large escalator deplacement going on at
Speaker 2: Commercial Broadway that is needing completion. I'm happy to report
Speaker 2: we had to close a staircase as well, so we
Speaker 2: did impose some inconvenience on our customers. We've now been
Speaker 2: able to reopen the staircase which enabled the escalators to
Speaker 2: be replaced, so that project should be wrapping up and
Speaker 2: we should benefit from having new vertical circulation devices at
Speaker 2: that station. Behind the scenes, we've done a lot of
Speaker 2: work to improve the availability of maintenance resources during the
Speaker 2: times when we can do the work. If you see
Speaker 2: that picture of maintenance crews on the line overnight, we
Speaker 2: tend to forget how much work happens on Skytrain during
Speaker 2: the maintenance window overnight. So one of the items we
Speaker 2: did last fall was better matching availability of maintenance re
Speaker 2: sources with our maintenance windows, and now we're in a
Speaker 2: much better place to be able to maximize the work
Speaker 2: that we do when the system is available to us
Speaker 2: for maintenance. Next slide please. We recently were very thrilled
Speaker 2: to open upgrade at Brentwood station. This has been years
Speaker 2: in the making. Customers at Brentwood now have significantly improved
Speaker 2: vertical circulation with additional escalators and elevators, more retail opportunities,
Speaker 2: a space for detail has been made available so that
Speaker 2: will be coming soon. Improved faregates so more capacity, improved
Speaker 2: integration with the Brentwood Mall so easier to move between
Speaker 2: the station and the mall. And improved scepted client prevention
Speaker 2: through environmental design. So all of these things have been
Speaker 2: now open and available to our customers and happy to
Speaker 2: see a vision coming to reality and allowing us to
Speaker 2: provide better station environments for our customers. Next slide, please,
Speaker 2: I mentioned the testing of the Mark fives. Behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: we have several trains on the assembly line so to speak.
Speaker 2: I mentioned one is now in system testing. We have
Speaker 2: two other trains in the yard here at Edmunds. Three
Speaker 2: more trains and various stages of being assembled and manufacturing
Speaker 2: and transportation. So once we have the first train and
Speaker 2: service a bit later this year, we expect to be
Speaker 2: able to introduce an additional train every month or so
Speaker 2: for the remainder of the year. So we're targeting to
Speaker 2: have maybe around six to eight new trains and service
Speaker 2: by year's end, and the teams are working hard with
Speaker 2: our suppliers to make that happen. Next slide please. Another
Speaker 2: huge change for us at BCRTC which is becoming real
Speaker 2: as you can see in that photo, is our new
Speaker 2: control center. So the building is now up. It's being outfitted.
Speaker 2: The videal and console has been installed with all the
Speaker 2: background electrical mechanical systems being tested. Our readiness planning continues
Speaker 2: to move into that building and start operating towards the
Speaker 2: middle of next year. So a lot of work going
Speaker 2: on and really excited to finally move into our new
Speaker 2: control home at Edmonds here next slide please, And on
Speaker 2: the maintenance side, our first new maintenance facility, purpose built
Speaker 2: for the Mark fives is taking shape. We call it
Speaker 2: VMS three or Vehicle Maintenance Shop Free. We expect to
Speaker 2: open this facility late this year. It has been designed
Speaker 2: from the ground up with the necessary length and equipment
Speaker 2: for Mark five maintenance and it allows us to be
Speaker 2: able to expand and improve our train maintenance activities.
Speaker 9: Next slide.
Speaker 2: Please, you are well aware of the progress being made
Speaker 2: by the provincial teams delivering Broadway Subway Project and Study
Speaker 2: Language Skytrain. The BCRTC team continues to support the project
Speaker 2: delivery teams. We review designs, we make sure the installations
Speaker 2: are to our specifications and we work on real time
Speaker 2: problem solving as the construction continues. Both projects, I'm happy
Speaker 2: to report are own schedule. On our end, we have
Speaker 2: a lot of activities on making sure we are staffed
Speaker 2: and we are trained, and we have the equipment necessary
Speaker 2: to be able to operate and maintain these two major
Speaker 2: system expansions coming our Way Broadway Subway in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: seven and Study Langley in twenty twenty nine. Next slide, please,
Speaker 2: I will build on Kevin's comment around Canada Line. On
Speaker 2: the customer facing side, the station at Capston includes significantly
Speaker 2: improved vertical circulation amenities for our customers and also improved
Speaker 2: crime prevention through environmental design as well as it's our
Speaker 2: first all digital stations. Customer using that station, we'll see
Speaker 2: a lot more usage of digital signage, which improves maintenance
Speaker 2: and facilitates our ability to maintain a lot of the
Speaker 2: features at the station and provide better and more real
Speaker 2: time information for our customers. So really happy to see
Speaker 2: the station come online, and thank you to our partners
Speaker 2: at Canada Line who enabled this work to happen. Next slide, Please,
Speaker 2: On the team side, a lot goes on all the
Speaker 2: time at BCRTC. We recently completed a Certificate of Recognition
Speaker 2: audit through the Workspace BC and we achieved in ninety
Speaker 2: five percent audit score, which is remarkable. So really happy
Speaker 2: with the team achieving that we on the environmental side
Speaker 2: no reportable spills in the last quarter. That's something we
Speaker 2: keep an eye on and we've launched a turnet off
Speaker 2: campaign to do our part in making sure that we
Speaker 2: are reducing our environmental footprint and reducing use of carbon.
Speaker 2: On the readiness emergency readiness side with increased climate events
Speaker 2: severe climate events, we ran a tabletop exercise to improve
Speaker 2: our readiness for wind response. As you know, we have
Speaker 2: the Skybridge exposed to significant wins and that's one of
Speaker 2: the areas we need to be very ready for is
Speaker 2: when we have severe wind events, how does the team respond.
Speaker 2: So we ran a tabletop exercise for that event and
Speaker 2: my final slide echoing the comments from Kevin. We had
Speaker 2: both the Employee Recognition Day and the Transit Worker Ciation Day.
Speaker 2: We took the opportunity to be on the system to
Speaker 2: express our thanks to our teams. Everything I described is
Speaker 2: only possible with our teams working really hard night and
Speaker 2: day twenty four to seven to make it happen. We're
Speaker 2: also very pleased with internal cooperation with other parts of
Speaker 2: the Translink family. A couple of the photos in the
Speaker 2: bottom left their show internal appreciation from Transit Police to
Speaker 2: BCRTC employees for the very good collaboration that goes on
Speaker 2: between our two groups. So that is also part of
Speaker 2: us appreciating our teams and really being able to say
Speaker 2: a heartfelt thank you to the teams that make all
Speaker 2: this work happen. I believe that's my last slide, so
Speaker 2: happy to take any questions.
Speaker 25: Thanks Annie for that interesting and engaging presentation. Do any
Speaker 25: board members have questions or comments for Sanny? All right, none,
Speaker 25: thank you again. Well then turn now to a report
Speaker 25: from Close Mountain Bus Company, and that's for Michael McDaniel,
Speaker 25: the president and general manager. Michael great, thank.
Speaker 31: You, Thank you, board and public watching today. Happy to
Speaker 31: be here to present the president's report for CNBC. So
Speaker 31: let's go to the next slide to see the action
Speaker 31: packed agenda that I have as soon as it comes up,
Speaker 31: of course, there we go. The suspense was part of it,
Speaker 31: I think, so A handy dart and conventional bus update
Speaker 31: for the board today, looking back on winter as well
Speaker 31: for the bus company, a new battery electric bus that
Speaker 31: we are testing right now as we speak, some big
Speaker 31: news on the excuse me, big news on the trolley
Speaker 31: bus front, an update on a couple of our major
Speaker 31: projects as well, and reflections on recruitment, and I will
Speaker 31: close with talking about staff recognition as well. So that's great,
Speaker 31: Let's go to the next lot. So first off, on
Speaker 31: your side there, we'll take you through our bus and
Speaker 31: handi dart service and performance. On the conventional bus side,
Speaker 31: CNBC delivered one hundred and one percent of service compared
Speaker 31: to budget. This This is higher than one hundred percent
Speaker 31: due to the early implementation of about seventy thousand annual
Speaker 31: service hours from the twenty twenty four investment plan. For
Speaker 31: January twenty twenty five, has continued the implementation of these
Speaker 31: investments with additional service hours across more than thirty bus routes.
Speaker 31: Improvements included a new route three three eight East Fraser
Speaker 31: Heights in Surrey, which is a previously unserved community. Also,
Speaker 31: we extended service span on fourteen routes and in addition
Speaker 31: to that, six projects initiated by CNBC to address acute
Speaker 31: problem areas and improved to improvements to frequency to address overcrowding.
Speaker 31: On the handy dart side of things, we are returning
Speaker 31: to normal in Q four twenty twenty four, following the
Speaker 31: ATU job action that ceased at the end of September.
Speaker 31: For Q four twenty twenty four, ninety eight percent of
Speaker 31: requested trips were delivered. As always, this excludes client cancelations
Speaker 31: and lastly, on time performance was ninety percent, which is
Speaker 31: right on target for handy dart. Not excited, please, So
Speaker 31: I think we now with the weather today, we've reached
Speaker 31: the end of March and it's it's perhaps safe to
Speaker 31: say that we had a mile to winter. However, we
Speaker 31: did have a couple of days, a couple of opportunities
Speaker 31: to test our few of our new winter prepared preparedness
Speaker 31: items and initiatives. Regarding the Grip d tires that I've
Speaker 31: mentioned in previous meetings, we now have five hundred and
Speaker 31: seventy buses equipped with these new tires from Micheland. Our
Speaker 31: end years have been continuing to track their performance, always
Speaker 31: looking at all conditioned performance, not just snow but also
Speaker 31: wet roads and dry roads, as well as durability and
Speaker 31: impact on a fuel economy. Overall, these tires are performing
Speaker 31: extremely well and we're receiving great feedback both from transit
Speaker 31: operators and for maintenance staff. So that's good news there. Again,
Speaker 31: in regards to our sixteen articulated buses that I mentioned
Speaker 31: at a previous meeting, these buses were also assigned to
Speaker 31: roads with challenging terrain, terrain that usually requires us to
Speaker 31: pull our sixty foot buses off off the road. I'm
Speaker 31: pleased to tell the board that these buses performed extremely
Speaker 31: well and we pulled zero buses off the road during
Speaker 31: our winter this last number of months, so that was
Speaker 31: good news there.
Speaker 9: Next, like please.
Speaker 31: Now, you may have seen this looking bus on the
Speaker 31: roads in Metro Vancouver over the past a few months.
Speaker 31: We're starting we started last week even picking up some
Speaker 31: customers for a free rider to around around the region.
Speaker 31: We're testing this new type of zero mission battery electric
Speaker 31: bus from Latenda, Quebec based manufacture, and we're really trying
Speaker 31: to see how this might fit into our fleet and
Speaker 31: help us with our climate to meet our climate goals,
Speaker 31: called the elect Trip. It is a thirty foot bus
Speaker 31: and as you might imagine, falls kind of halfway between
Speaker 31: our forty foot conventional bus and a community shuttle. Next
Speaker 31: week the trial will end and the bus will return
Speaker 31: to Quebec, but our teams will look at the data
Speaker 31: and see how everything went. So interesting interesting tests there
Speaker 31: next slide please, So, as you may have seen in
Speaker 31: the news earlier this month, we've signed a contract with
Speaker 31: Celaris Bus and Coach for CNBC's next generation trolleybus fleet. Selearis,
Speaker 31: a European manufacturer, was selected based on their proven track
Speaker 31: record for service and ability to deliver cost effectively while
Speaker 31: meeting our fleet replacement timelines. Timelines are so important these days,
Speaker 31: and it was good to see that they could meet those.
Speaker 31: We intend to replace the entire existing fleet of two
Speaker 31: hundred and sixty two trolleybuses, but the contract does also
Speaker 31: allow for some possible expansion if we if we choose
Speaker 31: to do that, we expect to receive the first The
Speaker 31: first bus actually in not too much time, about a
Speaker 31: year a little over a year in mid twenty twenty six,
Speaker 31: with the remaining buses starting to be delivered in twenty
Speaker 31: twenty seven. We did get a taste of this Selari's
Speaker 31: bus when we did a demo in summer of twenty
Speaker 31: twenty three. That's pictured here on the slide with some
Speaker 31: of our team. In addition to having air conditioning which
Speaker 31: will make everyone a bit more comfortable on our trolleybuses,
Speaker 31: the most exciting thing about the Celaris bus is that
Speaker 31: they includ in motion charging. Now, as you know, our
Speaker 31: current trolleybus fleet is powered by the overhead trolley wires,
Speaker 31: but they cannot really go off wire for any great distance.
Speaker 31: The new fleet will use the overhead wires for propulsion,
Speaker 31: but also have a traction battery that charges while the
Speaker 31: bus is in motion. This will allow Celaire's buses to
Speaker 31: operate off wire for about twenty kilometers, whereas our current
Speaker 31: fleet is really a couple hundred meters at most. This
Speaker 31: will give our fleet planners schedulers more flexibility and we'll
Speaker 31: be able to handle detours and blockages and unplanned issues
Speaker 31: with ease. So very exciting times for our trolleybus fleet.
Speaker 31: Next slide please, so just a couple updates on our
Speaker 31: infrastructure projects. Marpole Transit Center, which is, as a reminder,
Speaker 31: our next bus depot and maintenance facility that is currently
Speaker 31: under construction in South Vancouver. The facility will be our
Speaker 31: first purpose built battery electric bus depot, and we'll have
Speaker 31: capacity of about three hundred battery electric buses at opening.
Speaker 31: You see a picture here on the screen as is
Speaker 31: construction just from the beginning of March made. Your work
Speaker 31: so far been about driving piles into the ground, in fact,
Speaker 31: a little over three thousand piles. You can see some
Speaker 31: of the picture there on your screen. So lots of
Speaker 31: work going on there for pork equivalent transit centers. To
Speaker 31: a quick update, we finish early works and are moving
Speaker 31: on to main works to renovate, expand and electrify that
Speaker 31: transit center. Upgrades to PTC will add service capability for
Speaker 31: battery electric buses and double decker buses and improve maintenance
Speaker 31: capacity for expansion. Now regarding the last item for contact,
Speaker 31: CNBC is currently either at or beyond capacity at our
Speaker 31: transit center's meeting. We're really running out of room to
Speaker 31: park to park buses. A pilot to mitigate this issue
Speaker 31: will launch in June in a couple of months called
Speaker 31: Satellite Parking, and buses will be cleaned, fueled, and any
Speaker 31: necessary maintenance performed at a depot, but then moved to
Speaker 31: an off site parking location. So they're poised and ready
Speaker 31: to book out the next morning. In this particular case,
Speaker 31: the area that's being used as an operator layover lot
Speaker 31: near Newton Exchange in Surrey that we currently in. So
Speaker 31: if this pilot is successful, satellite parking could be utilized
Speaker 31: across our system as an ongoing strategy to help with
Speaker 31: incremental expansion. Next slide. Please, So I've I've talked a
Speaker 31: lot about future things, and the future would be nothing
Speaker 31: without really great people, and so I wanted to share
Speaker 31: some strategies around hiring these great people at CNBC. For
Speaker 31: transit operator recruitment, things have come a long way over
Speaker 31: the years. Our teams from Operations, HR, Training and others
Speaker 31: have become experts at hiring transit operators, and this year
Speaker 31: we will aim to hire the largest number of transit
Speaker 31: operators in recent memory. Actually, in twenty twenty four we
Speaker 31: hired six hundred and eighty transit operators and this will
Speaker 31: grow to eight hundred and twenty new operators for twenty
Speaker 31: twenty five. On the maintenance side, we are focusing on
Speaker 31: increasing CNBC's hiring presence at external career fairs, secondary school
Speaker 31: student presentations, shop and garage tours, hands on job shadowing
Speaker 31: for groups such as bctc's Women in Trades program. We
Speaker 31: know that kids begin to think about careers in high
Speaker 31: school and college, and though it takes some time, we
Speaker 31: are finding that peaking their interest early in life will
Speaker 31: have big paybacks for us. Lastly, in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 31: CNBC has crafted our own separate and unique voice on LinkedIn.
Speaker 31: We have a couple of goals, building company pride of
Speaker 31: course being one of them, but also helping highlight recruitment opportunities.
Speaker 31: Each month, we highlight at least one job opportunity to
Speaker 31: draw attention to positions that are either difficult to fill
Speaker 31: or that we need to fill quickly, and we've shared
Speaker 31: a number of job opportunities from different departments to showcase
Speaker 31: the diversity of roles at CNBC Next Life. Please promised
Speaker 31: another nod to our great staff. We close up the
Speaker 31: month of March. March is a big month for staff
Speaker 31: recognition throughout the transit industry. Not only did we celebrate
Speaker 31: March seventh, National Employee Appreciation Day, but also March eighteenth,
Speaker 31: the Transit Operator and Worker Appreciation Day. This year, we
Speaker 31: took advantage to celebrate both days and show our employees
Speaker 31: how much we appreciate them. On March seventh, executives and
Speaker 31: leaders seventy actually from across the enterprise, We're out and
Speaker 31: about thanking employees in person, both inside our facilities and
Speaker 31: out on the system. I was able to make it
Speaker 31: from the tricities to the north Shore to New Westminster.
Speaker 29: It was a good day.
Speaker 31: Saying hi to our staff. On March eighteenth, we celebrated
Speaker 31: our employees with coffee, treats and other special items inside
Speaker 31: our facilities. So just another shout out and a big
Speaker 31: thank you to our six three hundred employees at CNBC
Speaker 31: for everything they do every single day. And a last slide,
Speaker 31: please that brings me to the end. That is a
Speaker 31: picture of one of our managers, Gary, Thank you one
Speaker 31: of our team. So that brings me to the end
Speaker 31: of my presentation and I'm happy to answer any questions
Speaker 31: you might have.
Speaker 17: Thank you.
Speaker 25: Thanks Michael for that presentation. Any board members have any
Speaker 25: questions or comments for Michael.
Speaker 28: Lorraenen, I just wanted to say, on behalf of the board,
Speaker 28: how much we want to appreciate all the workers at
Speaker 28: Translink as well. I've heard, you know, We've heard from
Speaker 28: Kevin from Sanny and from Mike about this appreciation day.
Speaker 6: And I just can't say.
Speaker 28: Enough about how valuable our employees are and how much
Speaker 28: the board appreciates the work that they do as well.
Speaker 25: Thanks Laren, well said, any other comments or questions from
Speaker 25: board members? All right, seeing none, Thank you, Michael, and
Speaker 25: we'll turn now to report from the Transit Police, and
Speaker 25: I turned over to Chief Suzannemuir.
Speaker 32: Thank you so much, Director Secle, Good morning, Chair Cunningham,
Speaker 32: Director's Board and everyone attending today. Very pleased to provide
Speaker 32: you an update with the activities of.
Speaker 30: The Transit Police.
Speaker 32: We'll be sharing with you today some crime statistics and occurrences,
Speaker 32: the important work of our explosive Detection Dog team of
Speaker 32: they are the only dedicated explosion detection dog team in Canada.
Speaker 32: Increased visibility. How our CSO program and Community Policing Center
Speaker 32: volunteers are contributing and building on that theme and an
Speaker 32: important one of employee recognition. Next lide, Please, this is
Speaker 32: the second consecutive year where Transit Police is seeing a
Speaker 32: decline in the volume of reported crimes, and this is
Speaker 32: actually the third straight year we have seen declines in
Speaker 32: crime rate. When you account for increasing passenger.
Speaker 30: Volumes coming out of COVID.
Speaker 32: Despite the decrease, there are some crime types where we
Speaker 32: have seen increases, and those three are robberies, which are
Speaker 32: up from twenty seven instants in twenty twenty three to
Speaker 32: thirty seven in twenty twenty four, Sex assaults up from
Speaker 32: seventy two in twenty twenty three to ninety eight in
Speaker 32: twenty twenty four, and assaults against police, which were up
Speaker 32: from fifteen incidents in twenty twenty three to twenty incidents
Speaker 32: in twenty twenty four. Those are crime categories we look
Speaker 32: to focus OFFICERIR efforts and look to continue to decrease
Speaker 32: those numbers. Next life, please.
Speaker 30: At around seven pm on February twenty fifth, twenty twenty.
Speaker 32: Five, a passenger on board a skytrain leaving at twenty
Speaker 32: nine Skytrain station reported a man holding a gun. Transit
Speaker 32: police intercepted the train in shape object was actually a lighter.
Speaker 32: This is just one recent example of reports which Transit
Speaker 32: police regularly receives from passengers each month about lighters made
Speaker 32: to resemble realistic firearms. In twenty twenty four a loan
Speaker 32: we responded to thirty two such incidents. I will note
Speaker 32: that these have been occurring as well throughout the different
Speaker 32: jurisdictional areas in the Lower Mainland.
Speaker 30: In January twenty twenty.
Speaker 32: Five, correct proactively, we created a video on gun shaped
Speaker 32: lighters by our communications team as we work to educate
Speaker 32: the public that these devices should never be brought onto
Speaker 32: the transit system. All reports of firearms on the transit
Speaker 32: system are treated extremely seriously and the resulting police response
Speaker 32: can put safety at risk.
Speaker 30: We are all working to look to.
Speaker 32: Have legislative changes made around possession of these items as well.
Speaker 30: Next live please.
Speaker 32: In twenty twenty four, our Explosive Detection Dog team made
Speaker 32: over four five hundred proactive sweeps of the bus loops, trains,
Speaker 32: transit platforms, stations and other transit infrastructure. They responded to
Speaker 32: nearly one hundred calls for service related to concerns such
Speaker 32: as suspicious packages or unattended and the majority of fifty
Speaker 32: were suspicious packages and thirty two were unattended. To give
Speaker 32: you contexts, an example from late January involved a passenger
Speaker 32: reporting an unattended bag left under the stairs at Stadium station.
Speaker 30: The station was closed and photos were.
Speaker 32: Sent or a canine team member who was quickly deployed
Speaker 32: and confirmed that the bag was not a concern and
Speaker 32: the station was immediately opened thereafter. Beyond those sweeps and patrols,
Speaker 32: they also assisted our patrol teams over two hundred and
Speaker 32: fifty occasions, handling another one hundred and seventy one calls
Speaker 32: for service, and provided mutual aid to jurisdictional police partners
Speaker 32: and explosive threats events on three dozen occasions. Next live please.
Speaker 30: In twenty twenty four.
Speaker 32: It's the first year where we've had the full complement
Speaker 32: of the twenty four Community Safety Officers out on the
Speaker 32: transit system, and they've been working hard at ensuring transit
Speaker 32: passengers employees are safe, including the checking the well being
Speaker 32: of individuals who may need assistants. And again just to
Speaker 32: give you context examples of the work they're out there
Speaker 32: doing every day. In one instance, they were flged down
Speaker 32: by citizens who reported a sexual assault and the Community
Speaker 32: Safety officers took down a detailed description of the suspect.
Speaker 32: It was communicated to our frontline police officers who located
Speaker 32: and arrested the suspect While conducting fair enforcement. An individual
Speaker 32: who was in emotional distress came forward to our CSO officers.
Speaker 32: They assisted the individual ensuring they felt safe and comfortable
Speaker 32: in the station environment until authorities could arrive and transport
Speaker 32: this individual to hospital. A final example, they're out on
Speaker 32: foot patrolling a station and they hear a local broadcast
Speaker 32: about a theft that just occurred nearby, and they were
Speaker 32: able to locate the suspects outside the station, communicating their
Speaker 32: whereabouts until our police officers attended the scene. So excellent,
Speaker 32: just their visibility and their observations that are occurring next light.
Speaker 30: The Transit Police is community policing center.
Speaker 32: It's based out of the Waterfront Station and it really
Speaker 32: continues to play such an important role in the safety
Speaker 32: and wellness of transit riders and persons who are in
Speaker 32: vulnerable situations on or around the transit citation system.
Speaker 30: At the end of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 32: We've been able to advance the program to a total
Speaker 32: of ninety six volunteers and combined approximately three thousand and
Speaker 32: eight hundred volunteer hours spent engaging the public at events,
Speaker 32: patrolling in downtown Vancouver on the North Shore, and partnering
Speaker 32: with our neighborhood police officers and other specialty sections on
Speaker 32: a range of projects. It is also a transition program.
Speaker 32: Police to share that thirteen volunteers were successful in moving
Speaker 32: into a career in public safety, including some of those here.
Speaker 30: At Transit Police.
Speaker 32: And this just really provides an excellent opportunity for those
Speaker 32: who want to build their experience in public safety with
Speaker 32: an interest in transit safety and law enforcement. So many
Speaker 32: events they were engaged over fifty five community events in
Speaker 32: twenty twenty four, interacted with one hundred and ninety vulnerable persons,
Speaker 32: were able to give out one hundred and fifty coal
Speaker 32: weather items to persons in vulnerable circumstances, and the important
Speaker 32: eight seven seven seventh, Over ten thousand decals, cards and
Speaker 32: slap band advertising on the tech service were distributed, creating
Speaker 32: greater awareness.
Speaker 30: Next Live please.
Speaker 32: And finally, I also want to end just with the
Speaker 32: importance of recognition. So you know, such an honor us
Speaker 32: to participate in Employee Appreciation Day across the enterprise to
Speaker 32: recognize our employees and those working hard across the system
Speaker 32: and collaboration we all were able to also hear a
Speaker 32: trans Police hold our own annual awards ceremony to recognize
Speaker 32: Transit Police employees who made extraordinary efforts to serve the
Speaker 32: public and their coworkers. A few examples for recognition. You
Speaker 32: know to off us who ran into oncoming traffic to
Speaker 32: shield a young child who was running into a busy roadway.
Speaker 32: We had two officers who investigation into theft at Lululemon
Speaker 32: location led over to one hundred thousand dollars in recovered
Speaker 32: merchandise from across the region and these individuals were using
Speaker 32: the transit system to move that product. And a civilian
Speaker 32: professional crime analyst who successfully identified a suspect in a
Speaker 32: series of reported sex offenses. This year was the first
Speaker 32: year as well we introduced this Warren Officer of the
Speaker 32: Year and Civilian Professional of the Year. And Constable Sunny
Speaker 32: Ken was our inaugural sworn Officer of the Year and
Speaker 32: incredible work he's doing in community at tending countless events.
Speaker 32: He's the president of our Transit Police Social Club and
Speaker 32: spent significant time outside in volunteer work hours working in
Speaker 32: community raising over one hundred thousand dollars for cancer research
Speaker 32: and care. And Kelly Steel are civilian professional. She has
Speaker 32: been busy doing a lot of the training. We've shared
Speaker 32: the full day of Indigenous experiential learning that all police
Speaker 32: officers and their civilians were involved in and She's been
Speaker 32: recently recognized as well for work with Oldheimer's BC to
Speaker 32: develop dementia training for all.
Speaker 30: Our officers in the organization. So it's a ward we
Speaker 30: look to continue to build on each year.
Speaker 32: And I'll just ask you to move to the final
Speaker 32: slide and I'll welcome any questions anyone may have.
Speaker 25: Thank you, thanks, Chief mir and thanks to you and
Speaker 25: all of your everyone at trends ARE please for helping
Speaker 25: to keep our system safe. Any do any board members
Speaker 25: have any questions or comments for Chief Miir, I right
Speaker 25: not seeing any. Thank you so much. Now we turn
Speaker 25: to the part of our agenda are Committee's report. Our
Speaker 25: four committees report on their meetings from last week. The
Speaker 25: first of those committees is Finance and Audit Committee, which
Speaker 25: I share, so I'll provide that report. We had a
Speaker 25: busy meeting because it's the first meeting after the end
Speaker 25: of the year. We considered some items that are on
Speaker 25: the agenda later in this meeting, namely the transit tariff amendment,
Speaker 25: a statutory annual report, audited financial statements, and the financial
Speaker 25: and ear end financial and Performance Report. So we'll leave
Speaker 25: those items to deal be dealt with later in our
Speaker 25: consent in the consent agenda for today. There's also a
Speaker 25: report that we considered which is about the maintenance and
Speaker 25: operation of our bridges in the Translink system. Other matters
Speaker 25: that we're discussed were the rail expansion program, a status
Speaker 25: update on the work that is being done to prepare
Speaker 25: for the Broadway Subway and Surrey Langley's scot Train extensions.
Speaker 25: You heard quite a bit about in Sandi Zion's report,
Speaker 25: and everything seems to be on track for opening day.
Speaker 25: We also received the report on the status of the
Speaker 25: provincially led work to construct those extensions on the Broadway
Speaker 25: Subway and the Surrey Langley Skytrain. We had an overview
Speaker 25: of the work in the past year on the real
Speaker 25: estate development, so the Real Estate Development Annual Report and
Speaker 25: quarterly update tequilar emphasis on the largely residential tower project
Speaker 25: at Arbutus and Broadway in Vancouver. We always received the
Speaker 25: safety update in these meetings because safety is important throughout
Speaker 25: the Translink enterprise. The boards of each of the operating
Speaker 25: companies also received reports on the safety records in each
Speaker 25: of the rail and bus operations. We review the safety
Speaker 25: goals for twenty twenty five and reviewed the public safety
Speaker 25: campaign that trans conducted recently, we also considered emergency management.
Speaker 25: Since the last report, activities by Translink and its operating
Speaker 25: companies have included plining for and responding to winter weather,
Speaker 25: and you heard a little bit about that earlier. And
Speaker 25: then also large public gatherings, particularly like the Taylor Swift
Speaker 25: concerts late last year, we learned about more about business
Speaker 25: and continuity, integrated security and the training and exercise work
Speaker 25: that goes on to make sure that we're always prepared
Speaker 25: for emergencies. Emergency management personnel were also engaged in various
Speaker 25: enterprise projects, including the Enterprise Resiliency Working Group, climate Adaptation
Speaker 25: and seismic resiliency programs, all of which are important and
Speaker 25: you heard some of that in the reports from the
Speaker 25: various operations. And finally, we had an annual check in
Speaker 25: on the status of the funds received and invested. When
Speaker 25: toils were ended on the Golden Ear's Bridge, as you
Speaker 25: may call over, was a significant payment from the province
Speaker 25: at the time, and we make sure there were being
Speaker 25: good stewards of those funds as according to previous board policy.
Speaker 25: So that's what we considered at our last meeting. If
Speaker 25: anyone has any questions for me, about that report, I'm
Speaker 25: happy to entertainment see none takes us to the next
Speaker 25: committee report, which is Planning Communities and Communications, and they'll
Speaker 25: turn it over to the chair Andrew Rymer.
Speaker 33: Thank you, Director Secle. So not unlike the Finance Committee,
Speaker 33: we had a lot of our annual reports coming this cycle.
Speaker 33: Those included the annual Accountability Report, which is on this
Speaker 33: agenda and which you spoke to. The annual reports from
Speaker 33: the user advisor committees for Accessible Transit, including the User
Speaker 33: Advisory Committee and the Handy ed Art User Advisory Committee, also.
Speaker 2: On this agenda.
Speaker 33: Other annual things we did we received the annual and
Speaker 33: discussed the annual Summary of customer.
Speaker 30: Information.
Speaker 33: We did the annual review of our terms of reference
Speaker 33: and duties and responsibility of the Committee.
Speaker 6: We also did well.
Speaker 30: This one's interesting.
Speaker 33: As we've moved through in the pandemic, we did a
Speaker 33: ridership recovery on an almost daily hourly basis of those reports,
Speaker 33: but definitely of re quarter. We've been sort of gradually
Speaker 33: transitioning that and this most recent Planning Committee I think
Speaker 33: probably marks the full transition to Metro Vancouver Transportation trends
Speaker 33: twenty twenty four. I think what's most notable about this
Speaker 33: report is that it includes trip diary information, which we
Speaker 33: haven't had since twenty seventeen, so it was very I
Speaker 33: would think of as a chunky report that we got
Speaker 33: to kind of dive into some really good statistics looking at.
Speaker 2: Trends in the region.
Speaker 33: We also did our regular quarterly updates on government relations
Speaker 33: and public affairs, communications and marketing, customer experience, and Indigenous relations.
Speaker 33: I might note on that last one that a couple
Speaker 33: significant events at the musk we Am. We're on hand
Speaker 33: for the opening at Capstan, which I know the CEO
Speaker 33: also spoke to, but to note that, and also the
Speaker 33: first ever chancelling delegation in the memorial March on February
Speaker 33: fourteenth for the missing and murdered Indigenous woman that takes
Speaker 33: place in the downtown east Side. We also at every
Speaker 33: meeting receive our Board correspondent summary the Planet committees where
Speaker 33: that goes, so when people are getting ahold of the
Speaker 33: Board through various avenues, that is where we receive that summary.
Speaker 33: And then also the key construction projects update. And that
Speaker 33: was it for our committee.
Speaker 25: Thanks Andrea. Anyone have any questions or comments for Andrea
Speaker 25: seeing none of that takes us to the report of
Speaker 25: the Human Resources and Governance Committee. I'll turn it over
Speaker 25: to the committee chair, Jen Chan.
Speaker 33: Thanks Alan.
Speaker 34: We also had a very productive meeting at the HRGC Committee.
Speaker 34: We discussed and have made recommendations to the Board on
Speaker 34: revisions to trans thinks Respectful Workplace policy, and that was
Speaker 34: to clarify processes and procedures and to update information on
Speaker 34: how to express a concern and those changes are in
Speaker 34: the boards can sent agenda today. We also receive status
Speaker 34: reports on some key initiatives, including the HR Digital Transformation Program,
Speaker 34: and that involves adopting HR technologies to enable more data
Speaker 34: driven decisions, improve processes, and increase efficiency, all with the
Speaker 34: aim of improving employee experience. So this program is proceeding
Speaker 34: well and continues to be under budget. We also receive
Speaker 34: the People in Culture Department's quarterly report, and I'd like
Speaker 34: to highlight just a few of the key efforts and
Speaker 34: outcomes from that report, including continued work on leadership development
Speaker 34: programs to support staff in growing in their careers, also
Speaker 34: listening to employee interests and concerns through an employee engagement survey,
Speaker 34: supporting employee resource groups to enhance our culture of inclusion
Speaker 34: at Translink, and some targeted efforts to recruit some business
Speaker 34: critical positions such as maintenance, cybersecurity, and engineering. The results
Speaker 34: of those efforts were also things that we heard, including
Speaker 34: decreasing voluntary turnover rates in each of the last three
Speaker 34: years for the organization, as well some very strong interest
Speaker 34: from applicants at our job fares and as Mike McDaniel
Speaker 34: noted earlier, resulting in some great success hiring transit operators
Speaker 34: and community shuttle operator positions, which are of course essential
Speaker 34: for Transling. We also resumed materials in preparation for this
Speaker 34: year's work, including the Committee's terms of reference, our completion
Speaker 34: checklist for the Committee's duties from twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 34: feedback on the effectiveness of the new director orientation program.
Speaker 25: Thanks Jen. Any questions or comments for Jen, It's not
Speaker 25: our fourth committee as the IT Committee and Alternative Chair
Speaker 25: Tracy readies for her report.
Speaker 35: Thank you Director Seckel. Again, another very busy meeting for
Speaker 35: the IT Committee. Like all the other committees, we received
Speaker 35: comprehensive reporting on the annual IT program and the status
Speaker 35: of the major IT projects that the IT Committee is following,
Speaker 35: including the HR Digital Transformation Program, that Director Chan spoke
Speaker 35: about management is continuing to thoroughly monitor and mitigate the
Speaker 35: IT risks that are out there, including cybersecurity. We also
Speaker 35: received and discussed at length the Enterprise Digital Strategy and Roadmap,
Speaker 35: which was very thorough and very well received by the committee.
Speaker 35: This is a very exciting strategy and path forward for
Speaker 35: the organization that is about leveraging the organization's digital strengths
Speaker 35: and opportunities to improve the customer experience, enhance employee engagement,
Speaker 35: and to optimize business processes. So I think we'll be
Speaker 35: looking for some very interesting things to I'm out of
Speaker 35: this strategy and roadmap in the years to come. Finally,
Speaker 35: the IT Committee also receive reviewed its terms of reference
Speaker 35: and conducted some other routine annual reviews. Thank you, mister Share.
Speaker 25: Thanks Tracy. Any questions or comments or Tracy see none.
Speaker 25: That takes us to the next part of our agenda,
Speaker 25: which is a presentation on the Metro Vancouver transportation trends,
Speaker 25: and I'll turn it over to Sarah Ross, our VP
Speaker 25: of Transportation Planning and Policy, and Ellen Elgar, our director
Speaker 25: of Research and Analytics.
Speaker 2: Good morning, every thank you so much.
Speaker 36: I'm very pleased to introduce Alan Elgar, who is our
Speaker 36: director of Research and Analytics, who will lead our item
Speaker 36: for this.
Speaker 24: Hi.
Speaker 21: Good morning everyone. So in this presentation, I'm going to
Speaker 21: provide information about regional transportation trends from two sources. The
Speaker 21: first one is early findings from the twenty twenty three
Speaker 21: Triptari Regional Survey and the second one is findings from
Speaker 21: our ongoing monitory of the transportation system. So with regard
Speaker 21: to the Trip Diary, it is a large household survey
Speaker 21: that we conduct every five years or so and that
Speaker 21: provides us detailed information about trouvel behavior of people across
Speaker 21: the region. This data is then used to inform planning
Speaker 21: initiatives by translating municipalities and other regional authorities. Next slide. Please, So,
Speaker 21: the last Trip Diary was conducted in twenty twenty three
Speaker 21: and there are three important early findings that we would
Speaker 21: like to share from it. The first one is that
Speaker 21: the number of daily trips in the region increased by
Speaker 21: eight point six percent between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty three.
Speaker 21: This is a smaller increase than what we would have
Speaker 21: expected based on the growth in factors such as population
Speaker 21: and employment and or ownership in the region, and I'll
Speaker 21: talk a little bit more about it later. The second
Speaker 21: finding is that there was a substantial growth in sustainable
Speaker 21: chair and in twenty twenty three it crossed for the
Speaker 21: first time the thirty percent milestone. And then the third
Speaker 21: fundings or highlight is that the number of vehicle kilometers
Speaker 21: travel traveled or VKT decreased by close to five percent
Speaker 21: between twenty seventeen twenty twenty three. This is the first
Speaker 21: time that VIKT in the region decreased and is a
Speaker 21: result of combination of two factors. The first one is
Speaker 21: that the number of auto trips decreased by about one
Speaker 21: and a half percent, and the second is that the
Speaker 21: average distance of auto driver trips decreased by about three percent.
Speaker 21: So the combination of the two of those led to
Speaker 21: about five percent decrease in VTT. So the last two
Speaker 21: points that I marked there are very encouraging, as increasing
Speaker 21: sustainable modechair and reduction in VKT are two of the
Speaker 21: main objectives of the Regional Transportation Strategy Transport twenty fifty
Speaker 21: and the findings that the region a crossed the thirty
Speaker 21: percent sus terrible mochair and experienced reduction in VCT are
Speaker 21: significant milestones to reaching these objectives. Now about this line
Speaker 21: that we see here in front of us. Going back
Speaker 21: to the number of trips, the reason that we would
Speaker 21: have expected larger growth in trips between twenty seventeen and
Speaker 21: twenty twenty three is that, as can be seen, growth
Speaker 21: in factors such as population, jobs, and auto ownership in
Speaker 21: that during that period was similar to the growth in
Speaker 21: these factors between twenty eleven and twenty seventeen. However, the
Speaker 21: increasing the number of trips between twenty eleven and twenty
Speaker 21: seventeen was close to twenty five percent, while the growth
Speaker 21: in the number of trips between twenty seventeen and twenty
Speaker 21: twenty three was below nine percent. So we have very
Speaker 21: similar background factors that lead to fairly different results in
Speaker 21: terms of the overall number of trips in the system.
Speaker 6: So we think that.
Speaker 21: The difference could be explained at least partially by the
Speaker 21: significant significant increases in work from home and use of
Speaker 21: delivery services. But there could be other reasons why people
Speaker 21: make fewer trips and perhaps engage in fewer activities in
Speaker 21: the region, and we'll try to look at it over
Speaker 21: the next.
Speaker 23: Year or so.
Speaker 21: Next like please so as I mentioned before, sustainable motor
Speaker 21: went increase significantly and crossed the thirty percent. Sustainable motare
Speaker 21: is calculated as the sum of transit walk and bike
Speaker 21: mode chairs, and as can be seen the graph, the
Speaker 21: increase in sustainable motuair is mostly the result of a
Speaker 21: large growth in walk mochair from about fourteen and a
Speaker 21: half percent in twenty seventeen to two over eight eighteen
Speaker 21: percent in twenty twenty three. The biking motor also went
Speaker 21: up slightly during this period, but transit motor experienced a
Speaker 21: small decrease. Another important observation from this graph is that
Speaker 21: auto driver motor declined substantially from close to fifty five
Speaker 21: percent in twenty seventeen to about fifty percent in twenty
Speaker 21: twenty three. Next light, please, so here we are shifting
Speaker 21: from talking about the trip diary to talking about the
Speaker 21: ongoing monitoring efforts that we have so looking more at
Speaker 21: the system in twenty twenty four, and the first thing
Speaker 21: that we see is that the overall number of trips
Speaker 21: in the system by all modes was fairly stable in
Speaker 21: twenty twenty four. When talking about transit, last year, transit
Speaker 21: leadership grew by three point three percent. This growth is
Speaker 21: in line with the annual growth the transit system experience
Speaker 21: in pre COVID years and suggests that the larger ridership
Speaker 21: increases the region experience as part of the COVID recovery
Speaker 21: is largely behind us, and going forward, ridership growth will
Speaker 21: mostly depend unusual factors such as growth in population, jobs,
Speaker 21: and economic environment. With regard to driving, daily traffic has
Speaker 21: been mostly stable since twenty twenty two and even declined
Speaker 21: slightly at the end of last year. At the same time, however,
Speaker 21: travel speeds during peak periods have been trending down and
Speaker 21: the reliability of travel times has been deteriorating. This means
Speaker 21: that congestion has generally gotten worse in the region over
Speaker 21: the last three years or so.
Speaker 19: And then.
Speaker 21: Talking about active modes, the main observations for active modes
Speaker 21: is that the amount of cycling is significantly influenced by seasonality.
Speaker 21: What I mean by that is that the number of
Speaker 21: bikes our sensors count in the peak months of summer
Speaker 21: is six to nine times higher than the number of
Speaker 21: bikes we count during the lower lowest months of the winter.
Speaker 21: Next slide please so, As I said earlier, ridership in
Speaker 21: the entire system increased by three point three percent in
Speaker 21: twenty twenty four. However, there was large variability in subregional
Speaker 21: growth levels. The subregions with the fastest ridership growth where
Speaker 21: the east part of the South of Fraser with eleven
Speaker 21: percent radioship increase and Maple Reach Peak Meadows with six
Speaker 21: percent increase. On the other hand, the Broad Peninsula and
Speaker 21: the North Shore experienced limited ridership growth. Next slide. Please,
Speaker 21: So that's it for the presentation. We just want to
Speaker 21: head that their report we submitted to the board includes
Speaker 21: information about these and other transportation metrics we track on
Speaker 21: an ongoing basis and use for informing decisions.
Speaker 2: And thank you very much.
Speaker 21: I'll be happy to answer any questions you have.
Speaker 25: Thanks Ellen, any discussion amongst board, Jen.
Speaker 24: Thank you very much for the presentation.
Speaker 34: Alon.
Speaker 24: We understand from some previous reports that newcomers to the
Speaker 24: region tend to be quite frequent users of public transit,
Speaker 24: and I'm wondering if you could please speak to the
Speaker 24: degree of confidence that we have in the trip diary
Speaker 24: survey reaching people who are new to the region, so
Speaker 24: that we can understand what their perceptions are as well,
Speaker 24: particularly if they may speak a variety of languages.
Speaker 21: Right, that's a really good question. So it's definitely a
Speaker 21: challenge because it's such a big We're talking about sixteen
Speaker 21: thousand households participated in the survey, and so that's probably
Speaker 21: around forty thousand individuals, and so it takes us a
Speaker 21: long time to clean the data and analyze it and
Speaker 21: so on until it can get here, and so we're
Speaker 21: already over a year behind when we actually collected the data.
Speaker 21: We do our best to contact as many people as possible.
Speaker 21: We actually, I think this time we set over seven
Speaker 21: hundred thousand letters to inviting households to participate in the survey.
Speaker 21: So I assume that at least half of the board
Speaker 21: received those ZERRAI those letters. Sorry for participation in terms,
Speaker 21: but there is a challenge in the sense that I
Speaker 21: think newcomers to the regions are probably less likely to
Speaker 21: participate just because they don't field yet part of the community.
Speaker 21: Potentially in terms of language barriers, we did introduce Chinese languages,
Speaker 21: Magarine and Cantonese as ways for people to participate in
Speaker 21: the survey. Generally speaking, we tried we checked in previous
Speaker 21: years how much of a language barrier there is, and
Speaker 21: it didn't seem to be a big language barrier. Might
Speaker 21: be more of a cultural barrier, or again, people that
Speaker 21: are not feeling part of the community yet that are
Speaker 21: less likely to participate in the survey.
Speaker 25: Thanks, any other questions or comments on this topic, all right,
Speaker 25: I don't stan any, So thank you Allen and Sarah
Speaker 25: for the presentation. We're moving on to several ams to
Speaker 25: deal with financial reports, and I'm turning it over to Patrice.
Speaker 25: But before it just a reminder that the financial statements
Speaker 25: that are being considered and approved are the financial statements
Speaker 25: stated March twenty one, twenty twenty five. So the tray
Speaker 25: self centered over to you.
Speaker 37: Great, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
Speaker 37: With me is Olga Cousinsiba, our vice president financial services,
Speaker 37: and she'll join me for this report and a few
Speaker 37: of the following reports as well. Now, in our year
Speaker 37: in Financial Performance report, we outline our key accomplishments in
Speaker 37: twenty twenty four along with our financial results and our
Speaker 37: performance trends, and so I'll summarize kind of some of
Speaker 37: those key points in this presentation.
Speaker 6: Next, I please.
Speaker 37: Well, writership, as you heard growth in twenty twenty four
Speaker 37: was steady with an overall increase of three point three
Speaker 37: percent over last year, and that was driven by population
Speaker 37: growth and more commuters turning to transit throughout the year.
Speaker 37: This led to higher transit revenues, which grew by seven percent.
Speaker 37: The cost of recovery rate show also improved by point
Speaker 37: four percent, and that's despite continued inflation and labor cost
Speaker 37: impacts and pressures on our costs. Expenses were favorable to
Speaker 37: budget do in large part to almost twenty million dollars
Speaker 37: of cost reductions that were identified as part of the
Speaker 37: Management Action Plan. Next slide. Please Every week, nearly one
Speaker 37: million people take transit at least once, which means around
Speaker 37: one third of Metro Vancouver's population relies on transit every week.
Speaker 37: In fact, the reliance on transit has grown so much
Speaker 37: that we are now second in Canada in writership for capita,
Speaker 37: behind only Montreal. A number of people who depend on
Speaker 37: transit in this region as a testament to how integrated
Speaker 37: transit is to everyday life and how important our service
Speaker 37: is to Metro Vancouver's economy. Next slide, Please now keep
Speaker 37: focus for twenty twenty four was to continue to prepare
Speaker 37: for expansion. Will also increase our service hours. Now through
Speaker 37: the twenty twenty four investment plan, we've been increasing those
Speaker 37: hours service hours on the most overcrowded bus routes, and
Speaker 37: it's heard from Sandy earlier, we've also been preparing for
Speaker 37: the largest skytrain expansion in our history. So when in service,
Speaker 37: the Broadway Subway and the Surrey Langley Skytrain extensions will
Speaker 37: expand our skytrain system by twenty seven percent, which means
Speaker 37: that preparations are already well under way to make sure
Speaker 37: we have the facilities and the staff ready for the
Speaker 37: opening of each line. And most notably, we look forward
Speaker 37: to the new Skytrain cards, which Sandy's team are currently
Speaker 37: testing as he mentioned next slide, Please so move on
Speaker 37: to revenues. As I mentioned, we saw a three point
Speaker 37: three percent increase in ridership and a seven percent increase
Speaker 37: in transit revenues reflecting that additional service hours, and so
Speaker 37: that shows us a positive variance to our budget. In
Speaker 37: twenty twenty four, there was a one time property tax
Speaker 37: increase of eighty million dollars which enabled investment in the
Speaker 37: added service hours to dress over crowding. This increase in
Speaker 37: property tax and the corresponding service investments were approved in
Speaker 37: the twenty twenty four Investment Plan that took place after
Speaker 37: the twenty twenty four budget was approved, so this revenue
Speaker 37: shows as a positive variance to the twenty twenty four budget.
Speaker 37: These additional revenues helped offset the lower fuel tax revenue
Speaker 37: which continues to decline, and even more so than was
Speaker 37: expected in the budget. Development cost charges were above budget
Speaker 37: and that reflects delivery of capital projects, some of which
Speaker 37: had been delayed in twenty twenty three. And just as
Speaker 37: a reminder, these development revenues are restricted can only be
Speaker 37: used for eligible capital projects, so they can't be used
Speaker 37: for our operating expenses. And next slide and we'll turn
Speaker 37: to operating expenses. Well across the organization. Given our funding challenges,
Speaker 37: there was a real focus on prudent cost control and
Speaker 37: financial optimization measures which resulted in operating savings in twenty
Speaker 37: twenty four, and this included almost twenty million of cost
Speaker 37: savings achieved through the Management Action Plan. So that meant
Speaker 37: that even with our increased service hours approved in the
Speaker 37: twenty twenty four Investment Plan, we were able to come
Speaker 37: under budget in twenty twenty four. Next slide, now turning
Speaker 37: to capital investments. This chart highlights the total investments that
Speaker 37: are helping us to repair for our future expansion, the
Speaker 37: largest investment areas being major construction, facilities and vehicles. Investments
Speaker 37: in capital projects in twenty twenty four were eight hundred
Speaker 37: and seventy six million dollars and that's a significant increase
Speaker 37: over twenty twenty three, again based on those expansion plans.
Speaker 37: In addition, there was eighty six million dollars in infrastructure
Speaker 37: contributions to municipal programs. That was also an increase over
Speaker 37: twenty twenty three. Sandy and Mike shared a number of
Speaker 37: the major projects included in the in the capital program,
Speaker 37: so we won't go through them all here, but just
Speaker 37: a reminder the new mark for trains, our new cap
Speaker 37: stand station. We had work on the operations and control
Speaker 37: center to support the Broadway subbody project, and maybe just
Speaker 37: also to add the transformation of one hundred and seventy
Speaker 37: nine bus stops to wheelchair accessible and that exceeded the
Speaker 37: target of one hundred and fifty next slide, please, So
Speaker 37: just to summer summarize in twenty twenty four, while maintaining
Speaker 37: fiscal prudence to manage those inflationary pressures. Transit continue to
Speaker 37: invest in safety and reliability, with expenditure's target towards improving
Speaker 37: our state of good repair and the perception of safety
Speaker 37: on the transit system, as well as advancing those key
Speaker 37: regional initiatives. And that's why it was so important that
Speaker 37: we advanced not only an efficiency review in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 37: but that set of cost optimization measures and revenue generating
Speaker 37: actions to make sure that we're doing everything we can
Speaker 37: independently to mitigate our funding gap. Those actions are well underway.
Speaker 37: In the long run, we'll save costs or generate revenue
Speaker 37: of an average of ninety million dollars per year for
Speaker 37: the organization in twenty twenty four, with ridership and revenue
Speaker 37: growth and target is savings. Through that efficiency review, investments
Speaker 37: were made in preparing for expansion and an additional service,
Speaker 37: while expenses were managed below budget. And as Transit continues
Speaker 37: to work with the province to continue to address its
Speaker 37: structural deficit and develop a sustainable financial model to support
Speaker 37: growth in our region, we will continue to focus on
Speaker 37: managing expenses and maintaining our services and with that a
Speaker 37: will time turn it back to you any questions.
Speaker 25: There's any questions on the arine financial performance report.
Speaker 30: There we can thank you very.
Speaker 27: Much and thank you very much for the report.
Speaker 6: I'm just curious.
Speaker 27: It's actually more I don't see the power point in
Speaker 27: our deck and am I missing it or were we
Speaker 27: provided with the slide duck?
Speaker 25: I don't recall seeing it in my militarily there.
Speaker 27: So okay, can can I just ask that that gets
Speaker 27: sent sent out?
Speaker 6: If that's okay?
Speaker 16: Yes?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 5: Or will okay?
Speaker 34: Thank you?
Speaker 25: Any other questions or comments see none that takes us
Speaker 25: to the twenty twenty four statutory annual report, which requires
Speaker 25: a decision by the board.
Speaker 37: So Patrice, Yeah, just to summarize that KPMG or external
Speaker 37: auditors audited or consolidated financial statements. They've concluded that they
Speaker 37: fairly present the consolidated financial position and results of operations
Speaker 37: of the authority as of December thirty one, twenty twenty four,
Speaker 37: and has noted the statements are dated March twenty first,
Speaker 37: twenty five. Translink again received an unqualified audit opinion. And
Speaker 37: I would just maybe take this moment to thank Olga
Speaker 37: and her entire finance team for all the work throughout
Speaker 37: this year end in completing the financial reporting and Altnate
Speaker 37: back to you.
Speaker 17: Thanks.
Speaker 25: So there are two items to approve for us. One
Speaker 25: is the actual annual report and then the others the
Speaker 25: consolidated financial statements. So I don't know if anyone has
Speaker 25: any questions about either of those items before we moved
Speaker 25: to the to the resolutions. If not, The resolution for
Speaker 25: the report is that the Translin Port of Directors approves
Speaker 25: the twenty twenty four annual Statutory Annual Report mandaged dated
Speaker 25: by the South Coast British Columbia Transportation Authority Act has
Speaker 25: presented in attachment one to the report and authorizes the
Speaker 25: release of the twenty twenty four Statutory Annual Report to
Speaker 25: the Mayor's Council on Regional Transportation to some make that
Speaker 25: motion seconded by Lorraine. Any discussion on the motion if
Speaker 25: not all in favor and he posed seeing none, that passes.
Speaker 25: And then we also have the audited consolidated financial statements.
Speaker 25: I don't know, Patrisia Older, do you have any other
Speaker 25: comments about the statements or then the resolution we have
Speaker 25: for that is that the Transling Board of Directors approves
Speaker 25: that twenty twenty four audited consolidated financial Statements attached to
Speaker 25: the report entitled twenty twenty four Audited Consolidated Financial Statements
Speaker 25: dated March twenty one, twenty twenty five, and authorizes the
Speaker 25: Board Chair and Finance and Audit Committee Chair to sign
Speaker 25: the approved consolidated Financial Statements. To have someone to make
Speaker 25: that motion, Lorraine, thank you, and seconded by Gordon and
Speaker 25: all in favor and he opposed. Seeing then that Harris, okay.
Speaker 25: That takes us to item fifteen then, which is the
Speaker 25: Transit Tariff Amendment, and the Terresa roglove to speak to that.
Speaker 37: I will take that and we've got the slide Terffic.
Speaker 37: So this next is my final report.
Speaker 6: We'll walk through.
Speaker 37: It is the Transit Tiff Amendment which adjusts the transit
Speaker 37: fares for twenty twenty five, so not to be confused
Speaker 37: with trade tariffs. So we'll move to the next slide.
Speaker 2: Please.
Speaker 37: Has provided a bit of background on this year's fair increase.
Speaker 37: Like household expenses, translinks expenses have been increasing with inflation.
Speaker 37: The Translink has limited fare increases to an average of
Speaker 37: two point three percent between twenty twenty one and twenty
Speaker 37: twenty four to keep rates affordable. Since twenty twenty, fair
Speaker 37: increases have either been canceled or capped under the rate
Speaker 37: of inflation, which can has contributed to TransLink's revenues falling
Speaker 37: below behind the growth and costs. So this year's four
Speaker 37: percent increase, which will be effective July first, was approved
Speaker 37: in the twenty twenty four investment Plan, so we're recommending
Speaker 37: that to enact this by law to implement the twenty
Speaker 37: twenty five fair increase. If you could go to the
Speaker 37: next slide, just a little bit of background on historical fares.
Speaker 37: You can see that the variation the fair increase over
Speaker 37: the past few years and their relationship to inflation on
Speaker 37: this chart, and the four percent increase will help our
Speaker 37: revenues to catch up after being held below the inflation
Speaker 37: rate for those past five years. Blue being inflation and
Speaker 37: red being the fares on this chart. Next sign one more.
Speaker 37: This is looking at a little bit a different way,
Speaker 37: which is showing the cumulated increase in inflation over the years.
Speaker 37: That's the blue line relative to the cumultive increase in fares,
Speaker 37: which is the red line. So you can see here
Speaker 37: that over the multi year impact where fares have not
Speaker 37: kept up with inflation. So the twenty twenty five increase
Speaker 37: will help narrow the gap that fares will continue to
Speaker 37: be below the accumulated inflation over the year.
Speaker 6: Next slide.
Speaker 37: Does the summary of the fare increases. Concession fares will
Speaker 37: increase ten to fifteen cents, and adult fares fifteen to
Speaker 37: twenty five depending how many zones are traveled. Adult monthly
Speaker 37: passes increase four dollars and thirty cents to seven seventy five,
Speaker 37: and concession monthly passes increase two dollars and forty five cents.
Speaker 37: So as comparison, even after these increased, translit does continue
Speaker 37: to have some of the lowest fares of all major
Speaker 37: transit agencies in Canada. Translate to new bus cash fare
Speaker 37: will be equal to Toronto's and lower than Montreal, Calgary,
Speaker 37: Edmonton and Ottawa. Customers who use stored value receive further
Speaker 37: discounted rates, and even when factoring in zones only Edmonton
Speaker 37: transit users will pay less than our riders due on average.
Speaker 37: So that concludes my presentations, but did take any questions?
Speaker 25: Thanks Patrice, any discussion.
Speaker 33: Andrea, yeah, thank you and thanks for the presentation. First
Speaker 33: comment slash question is if you can make the presentation
Speaker 33: available on somewhere maybe asn't a shanned item linked to. Okay,
Speaker 33: the written material is great that we've got, but maybe
Speaker 33: not so easy to decipher for people reading about fair
Speaker 33: transit teriff amendments for the first time. The second question
Speaker 33: kind of relates back to the delegation earlier. I mean,
Speaker 33: four percent can be tough for certain folks to absorb,
Speaker 33: but in general, and you see this in board correspondence reports,
Speaker 33: a probably more latent concern for people can be the
Speaker 33: fairness to them individually. And so this question that was
Speaker 33: asked about you know, going over one you're going one stop,
Speaker 33: but you end up paying for two zones, and there's
Speaker 33: other examples I could given the system. Can you talk
Speaker 33: a bit about some of the limitations to us of
Speaker 33: changing the fare of structure as it sits right now?
Speaker 37: Yeah, I can start an and Sarah feel free to
Speaker 37: jump in. One of the limits is with our current
Speaker 37: system with Compass that can manage the zones. What was
Speaker 37: brought up was the desire to move to distance based fares,
Speaker 37: and that will be something that we will be looking
Speaker 37: at as we look to replace the Compass Compass system
Speaker 37: and go out to market for that.
Speaker 6: Did you want to add anything, Sarah.
Speaker 36: Just concur that we acknowledge that the current zone structure
Speaker 36: is a crude proxy for distance and that within some
Speaker 36: zones you can travel a long way and then if
Speaker 36: you happen to do a short trip that crosses a
Speaker 36: zone border, then you incur a higher fare for trips
Speaker 36: on the gated system. Of course, on bus all regardless
Speaker 36: of the distance, all bus trips are one zone. We
Speaker 36: did a twenty seventeen fair review that recommended shifting to
Speaker 36: distant space. That remains our policy approach and is something
Speaker 36: that as we need to upgrade our compass system to
Speaker 36: be able to achieve that.
Speaker 30: Okay, that's super helpful.
Speaker 33: And then the last question is around low income access
Speaker 33: that if people simply can't absorb these fares into their
Speaker 33: monthly or annual budget, can you talk a bit about
Speaker 33: the options available to them.
Speaker 36: Certainly I can do that. There Translink the province provides
Speaker 36: options through the BC Bus pass that for people who
Speaker 36: are low income and seniors or low income and people
Speaker 36: with disabilities, and it is Translink. We have previously reported
Speaker 36: to both the Board and the Mayor's Council on our
Speaker 36: recommendation that that there should be further expansion of access
Speaker 36: to people with people who are low for low income.
Speaker 36: It's while transit is done differently in different cities and
Speaker 36: in some places, it's and how support for low income
Speaker 36: people beyond transit is done differently in different cities, and
Speaker 36: so some agencies directly provide more discounts.
Speaker 9: That's not the role.
Speaker 36: That's not how things are structured in British Columbia. And
Speaker 36: so we do recognize that we need to look at
Speaker 36: affordability and that people who are very low income need
Speaker 36: further support. We see that as the role of the
Speaker 36: province to play.
Speaker 6: That's helpful.
Speaker 33: Thank you very much.
Speaker 25: Thanks for that those clarifications. Any other questions or comments
Speaker 25: on this item. It's not we have a resolution to
Speaker 25: pass and I'll read it to you. It's that the
Speaker 25: Transland Board of Directors on introduces and reads a first, second,
Speaker 25: and third time the South Coast British Columbia Transportation Authority
Speaker 25: Tariff by Law number one six zero Dash twenty twenty
Speaker 25: five attached to this Reporter's attachment one effect of July first,
Speaker 25: twenty twenty five and two reconsiders and finally adopts the
Speaker 25: South Coast British Columbia Transportation Authority Tariff by Law number
Speaker 25: one six zero Dash twenty twenty five. Someone make that motion, Darlene,
Speaker 25: seconded by Lorraine any discussion, all in favor, and he opposed,
Speaker 25: and that Carise, all right, thank you. And then I
Speaker 25: think the remaining item we have to deal with is
Speaker 25: our consent agenda. So could I have someone make a
Speaker 25: motion to adopt and approve the consent agenda? Stephen, thank you,
Speaker 25: and seconded by Tracy, all in favor and he posed
Speaker 25: not that Carise, And that gets us to the conclusion
Speaker 25: of our public meetings. So thank you everyone for joining
Speaker 25: us today and we look forward to interacting with you
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