Speaker 1: Hey, Michael Steel Podcast listeners. Michael Steele here with another
quick take from the Michael Steel Podcast. Check out what's
going on right now in a post Trump error? What
is the message dim for Democrats, for sane Republicans? How
do you want to frame them? What is the message
in the kind of candidates that they're going to put
in front of these people who are still so pissed
off at everything because they think they've been got. How
do you how what is the messaging to cuts through that?
Because if John F. Kennedy reducted in twenty twenty two,
couldn't do it?
Speaker 2: What does I have this model? I very rarely, I
very rarely disagree with you politically. I think you are
off the fucking wall on this. I'm I'm gonna I'm
gonna tell you why. You have a guy in Ohio
right with no party operats right, who was completely abandoned
right Republicans nationally spent sixty five seventy million dollars right
and he got twenty plus percent of the Republican vote
and one of the most polarized cycles. When you have
the top of the ticket right running right twenty five
points ahead, you've been the down ballot guy. Right, if
if the guy at the top collapses losers by twenty
five points, you went by five. I looked at you,
and I'm like, that guy can play ball. Maybe that
guy should have been on the top of the ticket.
Like at the at the end of the day, I
think when you when you look at a race and
you took all that he took. Right, Sometimes right, if
you look at life as a journey, Right, I'll say this,
like eighteen fifty eight, Abraham Lincoln lost to the guy
that he beat in eighteen sixty. I like to think
of it this way. Maybe Abraham Lincoln would have been
a really shitty senator.
Speaker 3: Event. But I've actually I'm agreeing with you in principle.
I'm just saying. I mean because I think Tim Riden,
I love that race. I think people care greatly. I
think that dear, I think.
Speaker 1: That's not how they're voting.
Speaker 2: This is this is the breakthrough I've had over the
last six or seven months. This is the place I've
moved from gotcha right over the last year, Right, I
would have I would have given you a different answer
at the end of the Lincoln project. But here's the deal, right,
the Trump Industrial complex. Right, you said it earlier the media.
It's an ecosystem. Everyone needs each other. I never understood
truly what Eisenhower was talking about when he talked about
the military industrial complex. TI, I understood it truly through
the eyes of the Trump industrial complex. You watched the
Lincoln Project documentary which was to ask you about that.
What were your thoughts on that? Well, they're all the
same people. Yeah, right, they're the same people. Right, there
is no difference between them and the Trump people. So
so one of the things, right, as as as and
I will I'm a charter member of the Never Give
a Fucking Inch club, right of the network.
Speaker 1: He wrote the bylaws right.
Speaker 2: Right of the Never of the Never of the never
Trump movement. But I didn't do I didn't fight Trump
because I wanted a career. I had a career. I
gave up my career to fight Trump.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I fought him because I believed he was a threat.
Speaker 1: I fought him as.
Speaker 2: A out of out of out of conviction. Right, what
people want is better but but but but we have
to be humble. Right that, Where where is the humility
in the Democratic Party? Right that that that has that
has been introspective said we're losing to who right, Right?
So what what is it that people see that makes
them say I want that as opposed to this. Right,
you try to have that conversation, you'll be shouted down
by a lot of angry, smug, intolerant people. Right. What
what's the argument here, right, that there's not intolerance and
closed mindedness on the left? Right, that that that Trump
is not fueled right by his opposition. If we only
have two parties and we look at a party, we say,
holy ship, guy who an insurrection killed a million people?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Right? Well, maybe it's because the people who like a
million people got killed right by the opioid epidemic. Right,
Maybe maybe we should have some empathy for those people
when the government came back around in the next decade
and said, you've got to take this vaccine. Why they
don't have trust, whether they don't have faith? Four hundred
dollars four hundred right, that's a that's a that's a
mid mid mid point bottle line on a lot of
menus in a Washington, DC restaurant. That that's the that's
the that's the average savings of forty percent of the population. Right,
One of the fastest growth industries in the financial sector
is unbanked. The kids get a past book savings industry. Right.
So when you look at when you look at when
you look at the news, right you look at the
amount of coverage that Elon muskats, the amount of national
attention into pages. Twitter's not a country, it's not geography,
doesn't have land, it's not real. Who gives a fuck?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was gonna ask you, what do you
do with the project?
Speaker 3: Like that?
Speaker 2: Like Lelan are affected by this. So there's a total
detachment in the conversation of what people think are important.
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