1 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,399 Speaker 1: And hello, Welcome one and all to the Big Podcast 2 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:31,079 on this Tuesday. Today's nineteenth, the nineteenth day of May, 3 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,320 Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty six. My name is 4 00:00:35,359 --> 00:00:41,840 Tom Sullivan. We've got six different states having primaries today, 5 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,159 so there's a bunch of political chat that we can 6 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:51,520 hit plus the update on the Maybe is there ever 7 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,920 going to be a war? I don't know if it's 8 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,439 on permanent hold what's going on, But we'll talk about that. 9 00:00:57,399 --> 00:01:01,159 We got a slush fund, We've got a variety of things, 10 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:07,400 but let me start with the politics of the day. 11 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:15,959 We have primaries in Kentucky. Tom Massey is the big 12 00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:19,319 focus because that is the guy that Donald Trump has 13 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:22,799 vowed to take down. Well, he took down Bill Senator 14 00:01:22,799 --> 00:01:26,599 Bill Cassidy in Louisiana over the weekend. They had their 15 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,760 primary on Saturday and he lost bat I mean, he 16 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:37,439 came in third. So with Donald Trump going after Tom Massey, 17 00:01:37,519 --> 00:01:42,120 I mean a heavy, heavy, heavy concentration, that will be 18 00:01:42,239 --> 00:01:46,920 one to see whether or not President Trump still has 19 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,480 a grip on Republican voters. The other by the way, 20 00:01:52,719 --> 00:01:58,319 Mitch McConnell, Kentucky Senator, he is not running, So that's 21 00:01:58,359 --> 00:02:01,359 an open seat that they're having in the primary today. 22 00:02:01,359 --> 00:02:07,760 In Georgia, they've got the primary for the senator and 23 00:02:07,799 --> 00:02:11,479 for the governor. No, Brian Kemp, I don't know. Brian 24 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:17,759 Kemp is a fascinating guy because he has eighty five 25 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:23,120 percent voter approval after two terms as governor of Georgia. 26 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:28,800 Eighty five percent approval unheard of. Let's see who else 27 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:36,919 has got this going today. We've got Oregon, Idaho, Alabama, Pennsylvania. 28 00:02:37,719 --> 00:02:41,879 So there's six states in all that are having a 29 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:49,240 primary today. So the question about the primary on on 30 00:02:50,479 --> 00:02:56,719 Tom Massey is what will happen If Tom Massey wins, 31 00:02:57,599 --> 00:03:02,400 what does that do to President Trump's grip on the Republican. 32 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,759 Speaker 2: Voter or if he loses. Well. 33 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,599 Speaker 1: Leanne Caldwell from Puck she waited on both of those 34 00:03:10,599 --> 00:03:11,639 situations here. 35 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: She is, so it will just reinforce the fact that 36 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:20,879 Donald Trump is extremely strong in Republican primary races, that 37 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,240 he is still the leader of the party, despite the 38 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:28,560 polls that's showing that he's not popular, especially among Democrats 39 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,400 and Independents and some of those key voter demographics that 40 00:03:32,479 --> 00:03:37,360 he did well in twenty twenty four. But if Thomas 41 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,840 Massey is defeated, it will show that of Donald Trump's 42 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,000 grip on the party, and it will also show that 43 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,719 money is a huge, huge factor still even in these 44 00:03:49,159 --> 00:03:53,360 primary races in rural Kentucky, which has become one of 45 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:58,560 the most expensive house primaries in the country and a 46 00:03:58,759 --> 00:04:01,960 very cheap media market. So you can only imagine what 47 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,919 sort of advertisements and how the deluge of advertisements that 48 00:04:06,919 --> 00:04:10,400 voters there are seeing. But the bigger shock will be 49 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,759 if Thomas Massey wins, and that will be a huge, 50 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,199 huge defeat for the president and a sign of big 51 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,480 defiance and might from this long congressman from Kentucky. 52 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, rural Kentucky is very poor and so well actually said, 53 00:04:28,879 --> 00:04:32,839 they're pouring millions of dollars into the campaign to defeat 54 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:37,079 Tom Massey, and yet the media buys that. It's one 55 00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:42,680 of the cheapest media markets in the nation. So who 56 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,600 else has got so Oh Andrew Dizadero, he's from punch Bowl. 57 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,199 Speaker 2: He was asked the same question. 58 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, you just hit the nail on the head. 59 00:04:49,879 --> 00:04:50,079 Speaker 5: There. 60 00:04:50,199 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 4: There are a lot of Republicans, especially as they get 61 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,079 past their primaries this year, who are going to feel 62 00:04:56,079 --> 00:04:59,279 like they need to show some independence from the President 63 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,759 from this administry traation in order to win in a 64 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,639 general election, right, and the risk that they run in 65 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,040 doing that is that this is going to come back 66 00:05:07,079 --> 00:05:09,720 to bite them eventually in the future. It might not 67 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:11,720 be this year, but it could be two years from now, 68 00:05:11,759 --> 00:05:14,480 four years from now, six years from now, As of 69 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:17,800 course Senator Bill Cassidy learned just a few days ago 70 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,920 when the President essentially recruited a primary challenger just a 71 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,639 few months ago and ended up locking him out of 72 00:05:24,959 --> 00:05:28,319 a runoff in his re election fight. Of course, Senator 73 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,160 Cassidy's sin in the Republican Party was being among that 74 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,879 small group of Republican senators back in twenty twenty one 75 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,000 who voted to convict Donald Trump in his second impeachment trial. 76 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: And that'll do it. That will absolutely do it. 77 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:46,199 Speaker 1: So this afternoon, the President he said he was going 78 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,160 to in Texas, which doesn't have a primary today, but 79 00:05:50,199 --> 00:05:52,439 the President said he was going to endorse one of 80 00:05:52,439 --> 00:05:56,040 the two Republicans running for Senate there. One of them 81 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,839 is the current Attorney General Ken Paxton, and the other 82 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,480 one is the current Senator from Texas On Cornyn. And 83 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,079 so the President came out just a little while ago 84 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:16,439 and said he is endorsing Ken Paxton, and well, Karl Rove, 85 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,800 who is from Texas, has done a lot of political 86 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,079 campaigns not only across the country but also in Texas. 87 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,680 He knows those people backwards and forwards. And he was 88 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,560 asked about race between Ken Paxton and John Cornyan, but 89 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,680 also what does he think about this race in Kentucky 90 00:06:38,199 --> 00:06:40,920 with Tom Massey. Well, it shouldn't be a race. I 91 00:06:41,519 --> 00:06:42,319 should not be a race. 92 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 6: I mean, we're talking about the President of the United 93 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:50,000 States supporting someone in opposition to somebody who's consistently voting 94 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,720 against a big, bad, the big beautiful bill. He does something. 95 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,759 It's very unusual for a Democrat or Republican to vote 96 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,079 against the rule as it's called it. If you're the 97 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:03,480 majority party, as the Republicans are. All the Republicans vote 98 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,160 for the rule that's the set of the instructions on House, 99 00:07:06,199 --> 00:07:09,800 a measure is brought to the floor. Very unusual for 100 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,639 a member to vote against a rule. He consistently votes 101 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,839 against the rules on big, big measures, which is unusual. 102 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,199 Here's Tom Massey talking about the President getting involved. 103 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:21,759 Speaker 5: He really shouldn't have got involved in this race because 104 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:24,319 I vote within ninety percent of the time. Look, the 105 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,759 problem isn't that I am voting against Republicans in Washington 106 00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:31,360 d C. Ten percent of the time. The problem is 107 00:07:31,399 --> 00:07:34,199 in Washington d C. Ten percent of the time Republicans 108 00:07:34,319 --> 00:07:37,519 up there vote against my constituents, and so I'm sticking 109 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,399 with my constituents, not the party is. 110 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: And there's a big libertarian streak. Think about it. 111 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 6: We not only have Massey who's a libertarian Republican, but 112 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,639 here's a United States Senator and the former brand Paul. 113 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,680 What's interesting about this district. You mentioned twenty one counties. 114 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,800 It's dominated by essentially three suburban counties, two of them 115 00:07:53,839 --> 00:07:57,000 south of your old stomping ground at Cincinnati and one 116 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,839 over there near Louisville, the northeastern suburbs of and then 117 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:04,079 the rest of it is rural, and it's very rural. 118 00:08:04,519 --> 00:08:08,120 So it's an odd combination of a district. But it's 119 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,240 been libertarian in instincts. Massy's done an interesting thing, which 120 00:08:12,319 --> 00:08:14,480 is he went out and made certain that in many 121 00:08:14,519 --> 00:08:18,959 counties he got like minded libertarians elected as county commissioners 122 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,040 and state legislators. So he's got a machine that he 123 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,199 has over the last twelve fourteen years, pretty well built 124 00:08:25,279 --> 00:08:28,279 up and perfected. So who is this guy that Tom 125 00:08:28,279 --> 00:08:31,279 Massey is running against? Oh yeah, sure, in fact, it's 126 00:08:31,279 --> 00:08:34,559 that's what it's about. I suspect most people are. I 127 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,039 can't even pronounce gal Right's last name. It's like, Okay, 128 00:08:38,279 --> 00:08:41,080 he's the not Trump guy. He's the Trump guy, and 129 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,320 the other guy is the not Trump guy. But you know, 130 00:08:43,399 --> 00:08:46,279 there is a there is a risk to this for 131 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,679 the president. There are two risks. Actually, One is it 132 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,159 expends a lot of resources in battle battles inside the 133 00:08:53,159 --> 00:08:54,919 party that could be spent in the general election. And 134 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:57,519 second of all, you know, there gets to be a 135 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:00,360 point where people say, you know, mister President, I don't 136 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:02,159 need to be with you one hundred percent of the time. Look, 137 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,440 there were people who voted against the Bush agenda. One 138 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,519 of them was an Indiana congressman who voted against the 139 00:09:08,639 --> 00:09:11,440 prescription drug benefit. His name was Mike Pence. But we 140 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,039 would no more have thought about going after Mike Pence 141 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,080 on that than the man in the moon, because you're 142 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,600 going to need that vote another day. And we saw 143 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:22,440 this earlier this year. Tom Tillis in the Senate, for example, said, okay, 144 00:09:22,519 --> 00:09:24,600 I'm not running for reelection. The President made it clear 145 00:09:24,639 --> 00:09:26,320 that if I did, he wasn't going to be for me. 146 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:28,960 So I'm free, and what I'm going to do is 147 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,399 give him a heartburn on the issue of the Federal 148 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,159 Reserve chairman. 149 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: So let's get to this business about cornn versus Paxson 150 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:42,799 in Texas, because Carl Rove is supporting mister Cornan and 151 00:09:42,879 --> 00:09:47,679 yet the President this afternoon just endorsed Ken Paxton. But 152 00:09:47,879 --> 00:09:50,879 this was after Carl made these comments. 153 00:09:50,919 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: Let's listen. 154 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 6: First of all, I want to be clear, I'm a 155 00:09:54,159 --> 00:09:57,039 John Cornyn fr fan of many years standing. We're close 156 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:02,000 personal friends, and I'm for him, helping him. But so 157 00:10:02,639 --> 00:10:05,159 color that, if you will, taller Eco has no chance 158 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,159 against Cornyn in the general action of my opinion, against Paxton, 159 00:10:09,519 --> 00:10:15,480 who's got a let's say, storied and corrupt background and 160 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:18,720 it was impeached by the Texas House or representatives over it. 161 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,360 They will spend every moment between now November talking about 162 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,720 the multiple girlfriends and the favors that corrupt business people 163 00:10:25,799 --> 00:10:28,799 did for got done by the Attorney general and he 164 00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:31,519 turned for having done favors for him. We'll hear about 165 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,840 the Uber account that allows us to track how many 166 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,639 times he went to his mistress's apartment. We'll have the 167 00:10:36,799 --> 00:10:39,240 you know, we will you know, the trust that will 168 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:41,799 from us and somebody he met in a dairy queen 169 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,279 that allowed him to buy eight properties from Hawaii to 170 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:49,639 Florida increases his net worth by about seven thousand percent 171 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,279 ball making one hundred and fifty four thousand dollars a 172 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,879 year as attorney general. They will spend every moment between 173 00:10:55,879 --> 00:10:58,519 now and November not talking about the issues, but talking 174 00:10:58,519 --> 00:11:00,879 about That's why I think he will well, first of all, 175 00:11:00,919 --> 00:11:05,200 he did, but they will spend you know, in the 176 00:11:05,279 --> 00:11:07,840 runoff maybe thirty or million dollars. In the general election, 177 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,279 you can count on the Democrats putting in two hundred 178 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,919 or three hundred million dollars because even if they lose 179 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,120 the Senate race, they know what will help pick up 180 00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:17,919 congressional seats and state legislative seats that they would otherwise wink. 181 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So Carl Mediclaire, he's a friend of John Cornyn, 182 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,960 and Cornyan has been there a long time. And Ken 183 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:31,320 Paxson has a very checkered history, I mean, corruption and 184 00:11:32,519 --> 00:11:36,679 just bad. And yet that's the guy that the president 185 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:42,159 endorsed was Ken Paxton. This afternoon. Meantime, let's talk about 186 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,200 the slush fund, as they're calling it. The President yesterday 187 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,559 came to an agreement to he was suing the Irs 188 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,480 for ten billion dollars. You know, that's what he does. 189 00:11:55,519 --> 00:11:58,159 He sues people for a lot of money. He loses 190 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,519 a lot of them, but he wins some. In this one. 191 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,399 I thought, wait a minute, how can the president sue 192 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,960 the Irs while you're still the president? Because the IRS 193 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,559 works for you in any case. So that made me 194 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,879 scratch my head. And so yesterday they made an announcement 195 00:12:15,399 --> 00:12:18,600 that the president and his sons have reached an agreement 196 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:24,159 to dismiss the ten billion dollar lawsuit in return for 197 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:28,960 the Department of Justice setting up a fund to pay 198 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:36,679 monies to people that have been wronged by the federal government. 199 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,840 So the left is apoplectic because they're going, oh, they're 200 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,240 going to pay the people that storm the Capitol on 201 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,799 jan six, And there will be some of those that will, 202 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,320 I'm sure put in claims and get paid, but it's 203 00:12:51,399 --> 00:12:54,679 all very secretive. It's going to be a five person panel. 204 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,960 The Attorney General is going to set up the panel. 205 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:02,080 President can fire or any member on that panel at 206 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:07,519 any time, we won't know who they pay or how 207 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:12,200 much they pay, So they're calling it a slush fund. Well, 208 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,480 Tom Dupree is a longtime former federal prosecutor, and he 209 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,279 was asked, does this thing pass your spell test? 210 00:13:21,639 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: Well, I have serious concerns. 211 00:13:23,159 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 7: For one thing, The Judgment Fund is really used for 212 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,399 what its name is, to pay judgments that are entered 213 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:31,879 against the United States. That involves cases where a judge 214 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:34,200 or a jury has said the United States is liable 215 00:13:34,279 --> 00:13:36,279 and the United States then pays the money out of 216 00:13:36,279 --> 00:13:39,120 the judgment fund. This is an atypical, I would say, 217 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,159 unprecedented use of the judgment Fund, and that it's not 218 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,840 being used to compensate people who actually hold judgments against 219 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,919 the United States. Rather, it's a way, as the Attorney 220 00:13:48,919 --> 00:13:52,159 General explained, to basically make whole people that they think 221 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,440 were wrongfully treated during the Buying administration. But yes, I 222 00:13:55,519 --> 00:13:58,960 have concerns both about the purpose of this using taxpayer money, 223 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,720 a lot of tax money to pay people who may 224 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,320 not be deserving of getting this amount of money. And 225 00:14:05,399 --> 00:14:08,159 number two, I also have concerned about the procedures. Is 226 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,480 there going to be any guardrail? Is there going to 227 00:14:10,519 --> 00:14:13,320 be transparency. Are we going to know who is getting 228 00:14:13,399 --> 00:14:15,799 paid money out of this fund? These are all questions 229 00:14:15,799 --> 00:14:17,840 that I hope will be answered in the days ahead. 230 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: The guess is that basically the magacrat will get a 231 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,159 lot of the payouts, and especially those that were Jan 232 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:29,279 six and were prosecuted, Some paid fines, some went to jail, 233 00:14:29,759 --> 00:14:33,480 so they'll probably all line up and say pay me money. 234 00:14:34,159 --> 00:14:38,600 But a lot of it also is people who fought 235 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,559 back against the claim that President Trump said that the 236 00:14:43,559 --> 00:14:45,399 twenty twenty election was stolen. 237 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 7: Well, look, I mean, I think we're going to be 238 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,240 litigating the twenty twenty election for years, if not decades 239 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,279 to come. I think that people who are looking into it, 240 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,679 at least in some cases, they are not going to 241 00:14:56,679 --> 00:14:59,960 be satisfied unless and until they actually find evidence so far, 242 00:15:00,039 --> 00:15:02,320 which we haven't seen, but until they find evidence that 243 00:15:02,559 --> 00:15:04,799 supports their claim that it's been rigged. But look, I 244 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,639 kind of stand where former Attorney General Barr was when 245 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:10,720 he had the DOJ team again in the prior Trump administration, 246 00:15:10,759 --> 00:15:13,759 look into this and did not find any evidence of fraud, 247 00:15:13,799 --> 00:15:17,240 at least fraud and significant enough amounts that would change 248 00:15:17,279 --> 00:15:18,240 the outcome of the election. 249 00:15:18,559 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 5: We've had lots of people looking into this. 250 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 7: We've had people ranging from Mike Rudy Giuliani, to Mike 251 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,840 Lindell to others. No one has been able to find 252 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,919 actual evidence showing up there was sufficient fraud to change 253 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:30,960 the outcome of the election. But it doesn't look like 254 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,720 that's going to necessarily stop people from continuing to raise 255 00:15:34,799 --> 00:15:38,200 questions and continuing to plow this ground looking backward when 256 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,240 ideally Republicans will be looking forward. 257 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,759 Speaker 1: So we mentioned two names that I suspect will be 258 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,519 first and second in line for money from this slush fund. 259 00:15:47,879 --> 00:15:51,679 One is Rudy Giuliani, who has lost all kinds of 260 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:55,519 legal battles and is broke, he says. And the other 261 00:15:55,559 --> 00:16:00,080 one is the my pillow guy, Mike Lindell, who also 262 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,200 has filed for bankruptcy and he's broke. So I would 263 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,360 imagine that a lot of that money they're going to 264 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:08,519 be in line for to try and help with their 265 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,720 current financial problems. The President was asked about is this 266 00:16:13,919 --> 00:16:16,840 a slush fund? This is what he said, Well. 267 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 8: It's been very well received. I have to tell you 268 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,120 I know very little about it. I wasn't involved in 269 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,279 the whole creation of it and the negotiation. But this 270 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,240 is reimbursing people that were horribly treated, horribly treated as 271 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,559 anti weaponization. They've been weaponized, they've been in some cases 272 00:16:34,679 --> 00:16:38,000 imprisoned wrongly, they paid legal fees that they didn't have, 273 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,399 they've gone bankrupt, their lives have been destroyed. 274 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,039 Speaker 1: Again, that sounds like Rudy and my pillow, guys, So 275 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:48,120 we'll see how this goes. I suspect Tom Duprie is 276 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,480 right that this will be litigated. There will be lawsuits 277 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:56,759 against it about lack of transparency and separation of powers 278 00:16:56,759 --> 00:16:59,720 and everything else that goes into the questions for this. 279 00:17:01,159 --> 00:17:05,599 Speaking of trials, the guy that is on trial for 280 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:12,599 killing Charlie Kirk back in court again today. They're trying 281 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,920 to figure out before they even get to the trial, 282 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,680 all the motions. Here's Josh Ritter, a big defense lawyer. 283 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,839 Speaker 9: So your question, when we put a bow on it, it 284 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,160 looks like never. The last time we were in court, 285 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,160 he made a ruling on the blanket request to have 286 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,640 no cameras in court room and said that ytes, He's 287 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,000 going to allow cameras. Now the defense has decided to 288 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:35,720 take a piecemeal and say Okay, well, how about in 289 00:17:35,839 --> 00:17:38,839 this hearing, and we're talking about the preliminary hearing here 290 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,960 that should take place in July. They're asking for certain 291 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,160 portions of that hearing to not be on camera. The 292 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,000 reason for it is not entirely clear. They're saying that 293 00:17:48,039 --> 00:17:52,599 there are some sensitive elements of evidence that might be presented. Really, 294 00:17:52,599 --> 00:17:54,440 what it comes down to is that they feel that 295 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,279 there are portions of the testimony that may come out 296 00:17:57,279 --> 00:18:00,799 at the prelimb that could be damaging to their that 297 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,240 may not be their argument is may not be admissible 298 00:18:04,279 --> 00:18:06,279 at the trial, and they don't want that coming out. 299 00:18:06,759 --> 00:18:11,359 It's again this preoccupation with the media coverage of the 300 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,759 case and the outside perception of the case, and they're 301 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:17,079 saying that that has to do with preserving a potential 302 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,319 jury pool. But it does at this point sound like 303 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,160 they're far more concerned about the perception of their client 304 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,759 outside of the courthouse than inside of the courthouse. 305 00:18:26,039 --> 00:18:29,279 Speaker 1: I don't know of anything that could be more sensitive 306 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,799 than watching Charlie Kirk get shot. I mean, I think 307 00:18:34,039 --> 00:18:36,640 a lot of millions, tens of hundreds of millions of 308 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,160 people saw the bullet hit Charlie Kirk, and if you 309 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,640 didn't see it live, you can go on YouTube and 310 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,960 watch it again and again and again. So they're concerned 311 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:51,000 about sensitive things coming into the trial. So the judge 312 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:52,960 is being super careful because he knows that there's going 313 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,400 to be an appeal no matter how this case turns out. 314 00:18:55,839 --> 00:18:58,759 But I think they've got him sixteen ways from Friday. 315 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:04,440 But what will a judge do. Well, back to Josh River, I. 316 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 9: Think he's probably going to split the baby to some extent. 317 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,559 There are some things that we probably won't get on camera. 318 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,000 There is some video evidence that we understand. He's going 319 00:19:13,039 --> 00:19:15,920 to be presented, perhaps of the shooting itself, and it's 320 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,200 understandable that a lot of that would not be released 321 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,880 to the public. But he may acquiesce and give in 322 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,839 and allow that certain portions where there's perhaps hearsay elements 323 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,640 at play, are perhaps a ripe arguments for foundation that 324 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,039 those pieces of evidence might not come in at trial. 325 00:19:34,319 --> 00:19:36,519 He may exclude those portions from the hearing. 326 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: They seem to be coddling him. I don't know how 327 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,480 he's been treated in prison in the jail, but I 328 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,799 hope they're not coddling him. 329 00:19:47,839 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 9: No, we understand that he is under some sort of 330 00:19:50,279 --> 00:19:54,839 protective custody, you know, obviously as a high profile inmate. 331 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,240 I don't think he's getting any kind of special treatment 332 00:19:58,279 --> 00:20:00,759 other than he may be kept away from other inmates. 333 00:20:00,759 --> 00:20:02,759 But we do know that whenever he's brought into court 334 00:20:02,839 --> 00:20:09,279 here there is a caravan vehicles and armed personnel coming 335 00:20:09,319 --> 00:20:09,960 in with him. 336 00:20:10,039 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: It sounds to me like he's getting special treatment. I 337 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:13,759 don't think you should. 338 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: No, you're absolutely right. 339 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 9: It's kind of ironic that they're so concerned about the 340 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,279 public perception when this crime was committed for its public 341 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,440 impact itself. It was committed in a public place in 342 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,920 front of hundreds of people to send a message, and 343 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,079 now they're saying, well, we want to pull back on 344 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,400 all of that. I think the other thing to draw 345 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,559 attention to is that their real quarrel is with the 346 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,920 media coverage, not with the cameras in the courtroom. They 347 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,440 haven't really made an argument that is explained to the 348 00:20:44,519 --> 00:20:48,599 judge why the cameras are the problem when their gripe. 349 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:51,599 Their complaints really seem to be with how they feel 350 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,039 certain members of the media are covering their client. So 351 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,039 they're going to pull in, first of all, hundreds of jurors. Likely, 352 00:20:58,079 --> 00:21:00,480 they're going to go through an extensive do your process. 353 00:21:00,519 --> 00:21:02,920 They're going to hand out jury questionnaires, try to weed 354 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,119 out as many people as possible. The point isn't to 355 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,599 find people who have never heard of them, but people 356 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,440 who may have heard of it but haven't made up 357 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,880 their minds. And I'll say two, having worked on high 358 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,880 profile cases, you'd be surprised how many people you get 359 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,599 into a courthouse, you know, that are responding to a 360 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,880 jury summons. And you think this is a case that 361 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,680 everybody in the world has heard about, and there's some 362 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,200 folks that just don't follow it. They're too concerned with 363 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,720 their own kids, little league team, or what's going on 364 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,720 on reality TV that they just don't know much about 365 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,119 the types of stories that you and I may follow 366 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:33,720 it closely. 367 00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: Well, the hype on this is going to continue, and 368 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,759 like you said, it's not they got a hearing or 369 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:40,279 something in July, but the trial. 370 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: I don't believe starts until fall. 371 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:46,079 Speaker 1: And since we're talking about shootings, the shooting yesterday happened 372 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,440 just before we finished recording the podcast yesterday. It was 373 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,359 a shooting in San Diego at the Islamic Center, which 374 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,640 is apparently a very very large facility, and not only 375 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,599 do they have a mosque, but they also apparently have 376 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:05,160 a school of some kind, because they led all kinds 377 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,519 of children out of the facility after the shooting was over. 378 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,119 But the story itself, the San Diego Police Chief was 379 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,039 going down the timeline of how the mother these two 380 00:22:19,559 --> 00:22:23,839 teenage boys who shot and killed three people at the 381 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:31,119 Islamic Center, they're underage. They one of them got a 382 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,599 bunch of guns from the house and took his mother's car, 383 00:22:35,319 --> 00:22:38,599 and apparently the mother called the police and said, my 384 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:42,279 son is missing, so are the guns, so is my car, 385 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,319 and he's been talking about suicide. So the police put 386 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,400 out for all of their license plate readers to look 387 00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:55,799 for this car, and they had a bunch of hits 388 00:22:55,839 --> 00:22:59,160 on it, and they kept moving it. Finally they found 389 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,160 it over the It showed up over at the Islamic 390 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,680 Center and they started arriving at the Islamic Center just 391 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,279 as the gunshots went off, just as the killing began. 392 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,720 But the fact that the mother called and they have 393 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,880 license plate readers that in the size of a city 394 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,160 of San Diego, they were able to locate that car, 395 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,880 not in time, but very very close to it, and 396 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:32,119 James Gagliano, retired FBI guy, just talking about how this 397 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,920 kind of shooting is becoming more common. 398 00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 10: They did everything right, and obviously it was a grim 399 00:23:39,319 --> 00:23:42,039 scene yesterday and we're still kind of piecing things together. 400 00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:45,480 Look as far as a hate crime, I mean, the 401 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,400 two decedents will not face charges, they're obviously dead in 402 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,079 this instance, but trying to understand motivations. And again here's 403 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,839 something else. Seventeen and eighteen years old. This has become 404 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,559 an epidemic of gen Z shooters, whether it's the assassination 405 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,680 culture we saw in Butler, Pennsylvania or in Utah with 406 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:03,720 Tyler Robinson. 407 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,039 Speaker 2: And now these two young men. 408 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 10: Most important thing now that the initial interdiction is done, 409 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,000 did anyone direct them to do these things? Provide material support? 410 00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:14,440 Was anybody else involved in the conspiracy? But again it 411 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,920 goes back to these type of motivations. You take a grievance, 412 00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:20,759 you apply an ideology to it, and then your own 413 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,039 sense of moral absolutism. And in this instance, Christians, Jews, 414 00:24:25,039 --> 00:24:28,359 and Muslims are being targeted across the globe, mostly in 415 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,039 Asia and in African parts of the Middle East. But 416 00:24:31,079 --> 00:24:34,440 the FBIS tracked these numbers in the last decade, a 417 00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:37,359 doubling of hate crime incidents in the United States. 418 00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a different type of mass shooter today, no 419 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:43,400 question about it. Remember it wasn't that long ago. They 420 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,680 were ISIS inspired, or they had trained over in the 421 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,559 Middle East and they were something to do with ISIS 422 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,279 or al Qaeda or one of those. These guys are 423 00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:58,319 a couple of teenagers and the guy who shot Charlie 424 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,160 Kirk a young guy. 425 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: Going to college. I mean, this is. 426 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,559 Speaker 1: It's not the same kind of mass shooting that we 427 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,279 saw just a few years ago. 428 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:09,319 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk. 429 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: About war, because the war is been longer on a 430 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,240 ceasefire than actual military conflict. 431 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 2: General Jack Cheen. 432 00:25:21,799 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: He is sounding very frustrated, but he's politically savvy. He 433 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,039 didn't get to be a four star general by not 434 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:33,880 understanding how to be politically savvy. And he but listen 435 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:39,680 to him talk. He is frustrated, he is anxious. He 436 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,000 knows that the people that are running Tehran, running Iran 437 00:25:44,599 --> 00:25:48,000 are bad people and trying to negotiate with them is 438 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:50,640 a waste of time, according to him. So he was 439 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:57,319 asked about yesterday's delay by the President again, what was 440 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,920 the general reaction. 441 00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, well I saw they were surprised by that. To 442 00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:07,119 be frank, the reality is the Gulf States, they do 443 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,799 have the capability to defend themselves and that's been going 444 00:26:10,839 --> 00:26:13,079 on remarkably well. When you take a look at the 445 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,920 number of attacks and what the damage has done. Not 446 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,400 suggesting there hasn't been some damage, but to give me 447 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,440 an example of it, the UAE alone has nineteen patriot 448 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,559 batteries and iron dome batteries from Israel to defend itself. 449 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,559 Speaker 2: Really quite staggering. 450 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,079 Speaker 11: And also what would happen here and they're not giving 451 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:39,559 any credit to we return to military operations. I'm somewhat 452 00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:41,720 aware of what's going to take place here and it's 453 00:26:41,839 --> 00:26:45,759 very comprehensive. We've had six weeks of gathering intelligence on 454 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,559 targeting and we have a much better feel for what 455 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,400 to do and how to do it going forward, and 456 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,839 certainly the ability for Aron to do damage against these 457 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,799 states would be reduced dramatically, and taking into consideration that 458 00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:02,599 they would likely be some of the first targets. I'm 459 00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:06,359 not suggesting there won't be rounds and missiles and drones 460 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,920 fired at then there will be. And the other thing. 461 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,599 Speaker 2: Is, we have a huge leverage here. 462 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 11: I mean, we can tell the Iranians, if you're going 463 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,640 to fire on our allies and partners oil and gas infrastructure, 464 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:22,640 we are going to systematically dismantle. That means destroy the 465 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,640 oil export capability that you have on carg Island, as 466 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,359 well as all of your other oil and gas energy 467 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,359 export capability you have on your mainland. You will suffer 468 00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:39,119 a devastating price for that level of attack. That is 469 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,240 real leverage in my book. So, yes, we're going to negotiations. 470 00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:48,640 I understand that. And the backstop for that is President Trump. 471 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,000 He's not going to take a bad deal. And that's 472 00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:55,960 the reality of it. Even a deal has its limitations 473 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,920 in dealing with this regime, and we've got to put 474 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,799 it on the table. And by that, I mean if 475 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:05,319 you're going to make a deal with them, they're going 476 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,920 to want some finance relief, and that means of the 477 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,799 one hundred billion dollars of frozen assets, likely not only one, 478 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,079 some of it condition based. They're going to want relief 479 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,359 of sanctions, not only one, some of that condition based. 480 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,799 But what does that actually do that extends the life 481 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:25,359 of this regime. That means We're going to have these 482 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,759 guys for years to come. Another administration will have to 483 00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:32,200 deal with it. That's limitation one. I don't think that's 484 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,319 where we started. We started we're going to take this 485 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,680 regime down and weaken it so significantly that they would 486 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,680 be vulnerable to the resistance of their own people. We 487 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,240 weren't going to make the regime change ourselves, but kind 488 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,319 of put them on a path. The second limitation is, 489 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,319 and we know this from forty seven years of history, 490 00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:55,440 and that is whatever they agree to, they will likely 491 00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:59,640 cheat and reverse it then likely in another administration who 492 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:04,279 would be burden with that recovering ballistic missile program, trying 493 00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:08,680 to recover that nuclear program, funneling money secretly to the proxies, 494 00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:13,799 burdening Israel's defense, dealing with Hamas, the Huthis and Hesbalah. 495 00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:17,880 All of that will eventually come back by extending the 496 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,599 life of the regime. A deal to me is a 497 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,960 near term kind of pacifier in a sense, and the 498 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:28,519 long term implications of it are pretty serious. 499 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,519 Speaker 1: I don't know why people can't see that if we 500 00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:35,400 do a deal with his regime and regime stays in power, 501 00:29:35,839 --> 00:29:41,920 that they will continue to try and attack Israel, attack US. 502 00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:45,839 I don't know six months from now, five years from now, 503 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,599 but the next administration will have to deal with it. 504 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,839 You've got to remove this regime. So Admiral Cooper, the 505 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:59,400 head of Sencom, was testifying before the Senate and this 506 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,640 is what he said today. 507 00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:05,319 Speaker 12: Ron deliberately targeted civilians in the Middle East at least 508 00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:06,319 a thousand times. 509 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,839 Speaker 1: Was there any rhyme or reason that you saw behind 510 00:30:10,319 --> 00:30:12,799 what Iran was doing and who they were targeting? 511 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,599 Speaker 2: Was there any purpose behind that or was just indiscriminate? 512 00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:19,119 Speaker 12: I see, I think you saw a terror regime executing 513 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,559 terror like attacks leading up to their building more than 514 00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,640 a thousand times. The only rhyme or reason the consistency 515 00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:27,519 was against innocent civilians. 516 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: Like you said, the people that run Iran, the regime, 517 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:34,279 they're terrorists, they're evil people. 518 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,119 Speaker 11: Back to the general, well, I'm really surprised by the 519 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,400 UAE because they have such significant capability and they've been 520 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,920 fighting back with air strikes. They don't advertise it, but 521 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,160 they've been fighting back and quite effective with it. I'm 522 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,079 not in those discussions and not privy to what took 523 00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:55,119 place there, but I think in the file and analysis, 524 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,799 I mean, what we're discussing here is breaking the will 525 00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:01,279 of your opponent in Iran is the Gulf States. Because 526 00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:03,680 they want that pressure put on the administration to stop 527 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,839 the war, they got to cease fire out of it, 528 00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:10,079 and now they're extending the ceasefire some six weeks and 529 00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:13,960 they're absolutely convinced if they string us out closer to 530 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,519 the midterms and oil prices continue to rise as a 531 00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:20,359 result of it, that the President may just wash his 532 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,599 hands and the whole thing and declare victory. That's kind 533 00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:27,279 of what their objective is here, and I understand that objective, 534 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:29,599 and I think we have to see it for what 535 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,319 it really is. War is fundamentally breaking will here, and 536 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:35,359 they want to break our will, and they use it 537 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,720 public support as the vehicle to achieve that. Our adversaries, 538 00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:42,960 because we're open democracy, while we're always at war with 539 00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:47,680 their militaries, are also always trying to break the will 540 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,799 of the American people's support for that war. And that's 541 00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:54,240 the reality of the Iranians. There's certainly no exception to that, 542 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,839 and that is being played out right before our eyes, 543 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,480 the same thing, breaking the will of our allies and 544 00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:03,880 partners to do what but pressure on administration to back down. 545 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,160 That is why war is always a test of wills. 546 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,519 I think the preferred option is the return to the 547 00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:16,000 comprehensive military task ahead and make this regime so vulnerable 548 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,039 that we put it on a pathway to its eventual collapse, 549 00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:23,200 and get something else in there to deal with going forward, 550 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,759 as opposed to these thugs and killekers and tyrannical leaders 551 00:32:27,799 --> 00:32:30,440 that we've been dealing with for in now our fifth 552 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,359 decade with them. 553 00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if you could hear it, but Jack Kean, 554 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:40,319 General Kean is enormously frustrated. He knows they can go 555 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,640 in there. If you look at YouTube and pull up. 556 00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:50,400 When we went and took over Japan, sent we kept 557 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:56,119 General McCarter, kept the emperor in place, but arrested all 558 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:02,799 the military leaders of Japan. He left the emperor because 559 00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:06,960 without him the public would have been it would have 560 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,160 been very hard after the war to get the public support. 561 00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:14,720 But the emperor stayed, but all the military people were arrested. 562 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,920 And in Germany we arrested those top military people. 563 00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: Most of them went to their death on a noose. 564 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:25,559 They fiery squad or hanging. 565 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: We went in and arrested the terrible, the evil leaders 566 00:33:31,799 --> 00:33:32,920 of these enemies. 567 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 568 00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: I would hope that the military has a plan on 569 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:40,319 how to do that, but so far they're being held back. 570 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,240 So at the same hearing that Admiral Cooper was at today, 571 00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:50,599 they also Chris Wright, the Energy Secretary, was asked by 572 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,599 Senator Blumenthal about how far away is Iran from a 573 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,480 nuke bomb? 574 00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:05,319 Speaker 13: How close does that degree of enrichment enable Uranians to 575 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,759 develop a nuclear weapon? What amount of time would it 576 00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:08,400 take to do it? 577 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: Frighteningly close? 578 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, they are weeks a small number of weeks away 579 00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:19,639 to enrich that to weapons grade uranium. 580 00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: That's what we keep hearing. So I don't know what 581 00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:29,719 we're waiting for. Here's the president today, he was giving 582 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,400 a tour of the construction site of his ball room, 583 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:39,559 and the media was more interested in asking about the war. 584 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,679 Speaker 14: Well, I mean, I'm saying two or three days, maybe Friday, Saturday, 585 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,880 Sunday something maybe early so next week, a limited period 586 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,960 of time, because we can't let them have a weapon. 587 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,960 If they had a nuclear weapon, they would shock through Israel. 588 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,199 They would blow it up, and they would blow it 589 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,679 up fast, but they'd blow it up that was at. 590 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: The tour of the construction site for his ballroom, and 591 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,960 he had all the architectural drawings and everything else. But 592 00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:10,440 the media wasn't interested in the ballroom. They were interested 593 00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:14,519 in what's going on with Iran in the war. So 594 00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,480 Wall Street today doing a little bit of pullback. 595 00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: A lot of. 596 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,679 Speaker 1: Overbuying has been going on. The market's been aut a 597 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,239 tear so today she sold off the Dow down three 598 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,400 hundred and twenty two to forty nine thousand and three 599 00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:34,920 sixty three, the SMP down forty nine, the Nasdaq down 600 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,760 two hundred and twenty. Price of gold fell seventy one 601 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,960 dollars now at four thousand and four eighty seven, and 602 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,880 oil basically unchanged one hundred nine dollars for one barrel 603 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,840 of West Texas Intermediate. So that's it for today. Thank 604 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,400 you for coming by. We will be back tomorrow. I 605 00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:57,880 do hope to see you then. I do hope to 606 00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:58,639 see you then